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This is iFanboy Pick of the Week,

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episode 920, brought to

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you by iFanboyLists, just like you!

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I'm Josh Flanagan and I'm here today

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with my special co-host pal Jim

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Viscardi. I'm back, baby! I

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don't know if Connor works here anymore. He's

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gone last week. I

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think, I don't know, he might be

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back in June. I can't tell. I

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mean, I feel like he's pulling a bit

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of a scam here because I definitely spoke

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to him via text message this week and

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so... just saying. It turns out

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it's a lot easier to tell people

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what to do than

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to do the thing. I don't know if you have

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some experience in management, I believe. Except

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the thing is, he's not the manager. This

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is... people are confused. This

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is iFanboy, every

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week. One of us picks the book that they like

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the best from a stack of comics. We will call that the Pick of

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the Week. We will talk about that book, other

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books from the week. The patron pick,

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listener mail. I have some good emails. I don't

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want us to get too overexcited and not get

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to them. So just warning

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you that's still your problem, Josh. It's just

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one of those things where I feel like

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anytime I'm on the show, we always end

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the show and you go, Oh God, we went so long they're

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gonna kill me. I

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don't know if you've noticed the real singular

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element there, but it's not you. I did

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the same thing to Ryan last week and it's just like,

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I'm like, oh man, whenever you're

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on, it's like, whatever you're on.

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That's what it is. Jim, I didn't

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introduce you correctly. He's our

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guest host, been

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around a long time, of comicbook.com.

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That is the place where

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you can find me. The preeminent

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pop culture headline factory on the

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internet. That's right. Just turning them

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out. It's an art I don't

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know. Freshly baked.

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There will be spoilers of the

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books. If anybody's been

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listening for a long time and they say, oh Jim's

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on and you're like, whoa, cool. And a Moon Knight

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book came out this week. I believe you're about to

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be either disappointed or delighted. You

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had to pick. I did. And look,

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I'm going to

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be fair here. I did

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not pick Vengeance of Moon Knight number three. Of

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The Moon Knight. Of The Moon Knight. Of The Moon

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Knight. That's the article. Ranked

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high on my list, but did not pick. Actually,

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I had to pick. I

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had to pick Dutch number two by Joe

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Casey, Simon Gaines.

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And it is. And it's

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just. I

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picked this book up randomly. There

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was a zero issue that had come out and I was

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like, oh, that's fun. The logo is

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an amalgamation of

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all the original image

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books from the 90s. And

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this is like, what

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if an image

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had a superhero

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like Sentry that they just kind

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of forgot and found and put

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into the image,

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you know, 90s superhero universe.

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And. And

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that's you get this book and it's it's

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the kind of book that Joe Casey does

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so, so well. It's like, what

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if Cable and was also

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the Punisher? But

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also doing you know the

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dark knight returns in the image

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universe Basically is what this

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was a lot of to me like

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reference for Bronze Age Marvel at the

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same time. Yes. Yeah It's

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it's just Good

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fun Solo

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superhero adventure with a

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ton of just killer

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action all the time

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and a grizzled old hero doing

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things that people don't

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like and Making

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everyone around him wonder what the heck

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is this guy doing and this guy

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is like why am I still doing

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this? And it just works and it's

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gorgeous and it's I'm like I

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am so nostalgic for like

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Nine like that just that like that

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90s superhero like this especially 90s image

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stuff. I'm like I Am

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oddly right, you know very nostalgic for and

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this book just scratches that itch for me

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even though Right, like there's

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no other image heroes or whatever and I think It's

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funny because on the flip side. There's another book.

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That's that's all very similar but also very different

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I don't know if you're reading local man I've

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been told to many times local man is

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great. That's another one that just kind of

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like takes place in The

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world of these image heroes and

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I just I'm just a sucker

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for it And this is it's been really

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really good and there's only one issue left It's

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gonna end at issue three, but it's really issue four because

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there was a zero issue because of course there was a

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zero issue And

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like I said, it's it really is

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just It's But

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like but at the same time though, right like what

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I think Joe Casey does so well

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is Like

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he writes superheroes

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in a way that like on the surface

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it just feels like dumb superhero fun. But

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inevitably like you're getting a

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story, you're getting a real

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human story that makes you

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think it makes you feel and I

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just love that. So like I said, I will read

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anything Joe Casey does and

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this book is if you're not checking

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it out, you need to go check it out.

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So what I think is interesting

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is that I can't

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quite put a finger on this. I know

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and I think what you

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said about Joe Casey is true.

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I think that you don't

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have to get another thing out of it though

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if you don't want to. Sure. And I mean

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that in a good way. Meaning

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that like if you are looking

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for sort of this, it's not

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hard boiled superheroes, but it's close.

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I don't know, I

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would have a very tough time describing

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Joe Casey's work because it is

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very mainstream in a

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lot of ways and he has

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no compunction with being

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mainstream in that way

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except he's not quite. And

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it's an indescribable

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misalignment with regular

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comics. It

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loves them. It is not trying to stray

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from them. He's not really trying to reinvent

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anything, but

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it just has a slightly different take to it.

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There's just, and he can't help it. But I also

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read this like this is pretty straight

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up. Like it's

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one last adventure.

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I don't even want to be here. And

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I'm I

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find myself looking for

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the hook. And

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again, I don't mean that in a bad way.

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I've got my eyes peeled to be like, what

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is gonna be the thing here? And

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it might be that the thing is there is no thing. It's

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just the story that you're looking at, and that's

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what it is. I think, and that's what, I

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think the thing that I like about this, you can just, this

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just exists as a good,

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fun superhero story.

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And that's

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all it has to be, right? Like, I think, like,

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this is a guy who, you

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know, like for me, my first introduction

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to Joe Casey was Wildcat 3.0. And-

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Good one. And like,

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that book just blew

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my mind. And

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then I- And then I win. Yeah,

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and then like, and then I went to go like,

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check out Butcher

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Baker. I was like, whoa. Yeah.

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What is this? Like, even

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that really avant-garde stuff though, is still very

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rooted in, you know, Steve

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Ditko, Stan Lee, and Jack Kirby. It

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is. It is. Because he

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loves that. Right.

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And so, yeah, that's all I can say. I

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love Joe Casey. I think he is one of

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the most underrated

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creators in our space. That's

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because Ben 10 got toy money and he doesn't

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have to chase the dragon. Right.

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I mean, I mean good for

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him, right? But like, but

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like I said, this is a guy, like read his

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creator own stuff, read his work for hire stuff. It's

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all just as good. And like

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I said, like the quality level

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for a Joe Casey book never

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dips. And so anytime he puts out something

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new, it's you know,

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you're going to get quality and

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Dutch is no different. You

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know what I think one thing about him, that's interesting is he's very

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good at, because

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of when he sort of came up, this

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feels like a comic that has existed for a very

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long time. You don't need

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to, there's no big backstory or whatever, you sort of

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get it as you're going along. And to me, that

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always reminds me of, if you've listened for a long

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time, you've heard me say this, but like in

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the old days, you know, like when I first picked up comics,

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you would just pick up a comic, whatever

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number and you just started reading it. And

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he's good at that. Like

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picking up a comic, especially like new, this doesn't

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seem like it's the beginning of a story. The

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whole time I'm like, is this some other series

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I didn't know about? And it's not, it's, I

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don't think it's completely whole cloth, but I don't know one way

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or another, it doesn't matter. But

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there's just something about that, where

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he doesn't do too much. It's

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not too much, he's not, he

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knows not to. And I like

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that. I was at Marvel when he did Vengeance.

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And Vengeance for all intents and

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purposes was a book that probably

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should not have existed, but

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it did. And I think Joe

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tells the story, or basically

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like he was just giving it as a project with

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no real direction. And he made it like

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a must read series in

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a way that gave us, you know, characters

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like America Chavez, like just doing it. And

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it's just a phenomenal

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mini series. And again, it's one

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of those things where like, that book shouldn't

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exist, but it does because

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Marvel had a gap in the

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publishing schedule. And like

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he just, you know, he filled in the slot and

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fricking knocked it out of the park. No,

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you're right, I was sorry, I was like looking up, trying to sort of put

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it back in my head. And there's a

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article. It was a book that was that

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basically. I remember now. They had

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Gabrielle D'Alene. covers or

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maybe yeah, no Gabriel Delotto covers and they

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said it needed to be about villains in

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some in some instance and that

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was all he had to go on and he just made it work

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and Like it's just

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wild. That's okay. Six part miniseries. Yeah, the

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first headline I saw so it turns out

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the Marvel's 2011 miniseries vengeance Is pretty much

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the best thing ever What

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he's saying right here, yeah Yeah,

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and also just cuz I want to make sure Simon

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gain British artist Is

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if you if you look through he's worked on a

12:33

lot of series that you would probably remember a bit

12:35

So they go right this is the vinyl underground. He

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did some North Landers issue Great

12:40

artists for this in much the same way is

12:42

that it's sort of modern and

12:45

it's sort of Cartoony and it's sort

12:47

of reminiscent of the time but is also of the

12:49

now It's I

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like that that sort of art that's fresh rattles Eris

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and he's doing all those things really well along

12:57

with the colorist Francesco Sagala who also colored

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the next book unless I got it wrong

13:02

No, I think you're right. Yeah and Russ

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Wooten the the letter of all image books.

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That's right, but many many Moving

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along I Was I was

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delighted and surprised and I would like to read their

13:17

listeners to know I had nothing to do with G.

13:19

I. Joe a real American hero number 305

13:22

being on this list, but I'm

13:24

here for it, obviously Because

13:27

you are younger than me as we've discussed many times

13:30

Yeah, and GI Joe would mean a different thing to you

13:32

or at least come in a different context. I Started

13:38

reading GI Joe with When

13:42

this series started like oh Like

13:45

back up I guess no, no, no, no

13:48

No, like when Skybound put out the first

13:50

Larry hammer issue that they had him do

13:53

Oh, right Yeah, I have

13:55

read zero GI Joe until but I

13:57

was like I was getting into the

14:00

Energon universe stuff. I was all caught up in

14:02

the, you know, all of that

14:04

hype. And I was like, well, let me give this a shot. And

14:06

I was like, wow, this, this is, this

14:09

is phenomenal. And then there's a guy, there's

14:12

a guy at comic book, Jamie

14:14

Lovett, who's been reading Larry

14:17

Hemmings' G.I. Joe, you know, for

14:20

forever. And he mentioned

14:23

to me today, he goes, he goes, Honestly, Jim,

14:26

this book should not work. And it should not be

14:28

as good as it is, you know,

14:31

30 years later, basically. And,

14:34

and it is. And

14:36

I love it. And it's like, one of those

14:38

things where, like, this

14:40

is the perfect example of why,

14:44

when good comics work and how they work

14:47

is, I picked up, I

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guess what it was issue 301, I

14:51

guess. Yeah, yeah, I

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picked up issue, I picked up issue

14:55

301. I loved it. I read issue 302.

14:57

I loved it. And I said,

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you know what, I'm gonna dive in. And

15:03

I went around, you're on board from there. And

15:05

I'm like, there's a there's a lot of random

15:07

elements going on. But again,

15:09

you got, you know, Larry hummus

15:11

70 plus, but he's been doing

15:14

literally this book for 40 something

15:16

years. Yeah. But he manages

15:18

to do that thing I was just talking

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about with Joe Casey is that we can

15:22

pick up an issue, you don't have to

15:25

know anything. And which is weird, because it's

15:28

pretty convoluted. There's a lot going on. But

15:30

the fact is, like, I wasn't reading this,

15:32

and I read G.I. Joe for, you know,

15:34

off and on for years, I'm very familiar

15:36

with it, whatever. But I picked

15:38

up really randomly issue 297 298 from IDW, just one

15:40

week, it was

15:44

light. And I was like, Oh, read this, I haven't. And

15:47

I was like, that was awesome. I had no

15:49

idea that the series was going to air quote,

15:51

end in two issues. But

15:55

it didn't and then it started up again. I was like, I'm so happy.

15:59

And then you know, Chris Moodyham, I

16:01

mean, killing it. Yeah.

16:05

It's all, I don't know, man, he figured out the

16:07

tone and in one of those essays, you know, he

16:09

didn't grow up with G.I. Joe, he didn't know any

16:12

of this stuff, but he's not

16:14

missing a beat. If

16:17

you can go back and read an issue of G.I. Joe from like

16:19

1986, and if, I don't

16:22

know if it's as wacky as this,

16:24

but it's just like this, like those

16:27

issues, after it

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shakes off a little of the rust when

16:31

it's figured out what it is, I mean,

16:33

they're just good, they're good comics. You can't

16:35

go wrong and it's weird that he's still

16:37

good at it. Yeah. Like

16:41

this idea has been

16:43

driven, not literally, but almost as literally

16:45

as you can, just driven into the

16:47

ground and squos every

16:50

possible angle and I'm still like, bring

16:52

it on. It is. Like

16:55

in a way that I am not with most mainstream comics.

16:57

I come and go on Amazing Spider Man, I'm just like,

16:59

all right, let's give it a little

17:01

distance, but this, it feels so

17:04

much more energetic and

17:07

imaginative than a book

17:10

that has been written for 45 years should

17:12

by the same guy. Like

17:14

he, you know, like, you know, we

17:17

know a lot of people who are in their 40s and they're all over

17:19

it, if I can. You

17:21

know? I

17:24

don't know, maybe he just can't not suck.

17:27

Maybe that's got the motive. There's also that,

17:30

but I think it's also too, like, look,

17:33

there's no one who knows these characters

17:35

more or better than Larry Hammer and

17:39

God bless him for it. Yeah,

17:41

and it's amazing that they still get

17:44

the opportunity to now, the other side of it

17:46

is, he's been frank about this, is that, you

17:48

know, I have to keep doing this. I

17:50

don't have, you know. He

17:53

came up working in comics in the 80s and 90s, which

17:57

is no kind of retirement plan. That

18:01

said, I hope he's not miserable because I

18:04

think he's doing great work and it brings

18:07

me joy. Yeah. So,

18:11

and you know, he's probably getting a pretty fair rate

18:13

too. So yeah, it's good

18:15

stuff. I

18:18

read X-Men

18:20

Forever number one. Did you understand

18:22

it? No, I had finished all

18:24

of my books and there was a slight

18:26

chance that it was going to be the

18:29

patron pick and I just, I went, all

18:31

right, I'll read this. Should

18:34

be noted. I don't always

18:36

love Karen Gillen stuff. I like some of

18:38

it, but when it gets into the X-Men

18:40

stuff, I'm always completely lost and such

18:43

it was again. So why, what

18:46

is this? Why are

18:48

we talking? Okay. So

18:50

here's the thing. So I love Karen

18:52

writing the X-Men and actually his immortal

18:54

X-Men has been one of the most

18:58

the very few bright spots

19:00

for me in the Krakow

19:02

era that I'm glad we're

19:04

finally leaving behind. Wait,

19:07

are you saying that you didn't

19:09

love the Krakow era? I

19:12

loved the premise and the beginning of

19:14

it and then it completely went off

19:16

the rails. Okay. There

19:20

were some bright spots here and there, but

19:22

nothing with a sense of like, I

19:25

didn't read anything on an almost full

19:27

ongoing basis kind of

19:29

after like

19:31

the second event they did

19:34

in this era, the

19:36

swords one. But

19:40

I love, but Karen, but I've always

19:42

loved Karen on the X-Men even before

19:44

all this, right? I think Karen writes

19:49

very powerful superheroes

19:52

very well. And

19:56

that's basically what a mortal X-Men was and

19:59

to an extent you get bit of that here. The

20:02

thing that about

20:07

this issue that totally blows my mind

20:09

is I don't know

20:13

why it came out this week. It

20:15

should have come out like

20:17

a week or two before in

20:20

the sense of all this. Yeah.

20:23

We're like it's got a bunch

20:25

of events that we kind of already know and

20:27

only really sets up or

20:30

only moves forward. Some

20:32

of the Xavier plot forward

20:35

but I think it's one

20:37

of those things where I

20:40

just get sucked

20:43

in anytime Karen

20:46

is writing sinister. And

20:50

in characters like that or I'm just

20:52

like yep okay I'm here I'm in

20:54

for this ride. But

20:58

I did halfway

21:00

through going like did I

21:03

miss something here? Am I having deja vu? And then basically

21:09

by the time I got to the end of it I was like oh

21:11

okay well that's where we're at. But

21:13

so I play more the scheduling

21:17

of this book than anything else. So

21:20

give me what you would say is your

21:23

brief summary about what

21:25

happened to these people

21:28

who I don't know. I just

21:30

want just

21:33

the context of I never because I didn't read

21:35

it I didn't it was

21:37

never made clear to me as I read

21:40

books. Usually I pick up on things I

21:42

never understood sinister at all. But recently I

21:45

ended up I wanted

21:47

to know what the deal was with the

21:49

guy from who's the who's the leader of

21:51

Orcus? Oh dr. Dr.

21:54

Stasis dr. Yeah, yeah Stasis.

21:56

Okay so I want to know who that was and

21:58

I was like oh he's in and I started reading

22:00

like the sinister Wikipedia. I was like,

22:02

okay, it kind of makes sense. Like

22:04

I gave me a slight

22:06

understanding. So at a certain point in this

22:08

book, I figured I was like, oh, this

22:11

is a sinister person. And then, yes, but

22:13

then the sinister basically like winter himself up.

22:15

Yeah, he's like split himself up into as

22:18

an effort for survival,

22:20

basically, into basically put

22:22

himself into all

22:25

of the camps, right? That

22:27

are all just like starting to just

22:29

kind of fall apart and war and

22:31

fracture and all of that stuff.

22:34

And then inevitably, you know,

22:37

in an effort where characters are thinking

22:39

they are outsmarting sinister sinister is feeling

22:41

like, well, no, like

22:44

prime sinister is, you know, kind

22:46

of nerd Nathaniel Essex is like,

22:49

I've outsmarted all of you, in a

22:52

sense. And so it's a very like, you

22:54

know, aha, kind of

22:56

moment as all

22:58

of these different groups are,

23:03

you know, they've called this thing, you know, it's

23:05

a very apropos fall of x kind of

23:08

thing, like all of these groups are falling

23:10

apart. And this book

23:13

basically gives you a bit of

23:15

insight into what's kind

23:18

of going on around

23:20

the world of X-Men, but then

23:22

also at its core, kind of

23:24

pushing the narrative kind of pushing

23:26

Xavier's plan

23:28

mixed in with some some more of

23:31

the sinister stuff. Also to Xavier

23:34

and like what they've done with Xavier and

23:36

like I miss I'd

23:38

even take Xavier with his cerebral

23:40

helmet back at this point, but

23:43

like bald bearded walking, talking Xavier,

23:45

I just I'm not I'm not

23:47

into I just his beard.

23:49

His beard's not even gray. He's not he's

23:51

just young and healthy. I mean, I guess

23:53

they were like, they were resurrecting everybody. And

23:56

why should he be in a wheelchair in the world

23:58

that you know, he is? has access to

24:00

fair enough but right you know

24:03

it's not the same it's not

24:05

the same character is he the same character I

24:07

don't even know I mean presumably but like that's

24:09

my whole thing right but oh era too it's

24:11

like I feel like they've turned a bunch of

24:13

x-men into plot points and whatever and not necessarily

24:15

you have left a lot of

24:18

the characters behind that I don't even want to

24:20

get into what they've done to beast but

24:25

is he evil now he's like super evil

24:28

that's terrible I mean he's I mean

24:30

he's kind of been drifting that way even before

24:32

the Krakow era stuff but like they wouldn't fall

24:35

blown into it and we already have an

24:37

evil beast like we've got dark beasts like just let

24:39

dark beasts be the evil beast hmm

24:43

we're in the age of a pomadean and

24:46

it's like a kill your darlings thing like maybe

24:48

that makes you long for the other one but

24:50

I guess maybe but hopefully that's what we get

24:52

when whatever this new x-men

24:54

line stuff is he really is

24:56

one of those lovable characters though that you don't

24:58

want to be great you know

25:00

like you wouldn't want Nightcrawler to be evil

25:03

wouldn't be okay right

25:05

it's not his heart so Vince

25:07

a little Iron Man number 666

25:10

I noticed because we put the real numbers on here 666 this

25:16

was the not

25:18

the culmination but sort of like

25:20

the beginning of the culmination of

25:23

Tony versus Faye Long and all the the

25:25

the mark 72 slash 73 armor and everything

25:28

and and I think what was interesting about

25:31

this as I realized I was like oh they're

25:33

doing the depth Superman in here you know which

25:35

may be some sort of sign

25:38

I don't know every page is

25:41

its own page there's no panels so

25:43

this is like the climax of the thing yeah it's

25:46

I know it's it's the

25:49

thing here the thing

25:52

I I love when we get like

25:55

I love all the giant like the

25:57

new sentinel Buster armor and I love

25:59

new armors And I love all of that. But

26:02

it feels, my

26:04

only real hesitation with the book right

26:06

now is, it

26:08

feels like it's about to come to a screeching

26:11

halt in a sense, or at least take a

26:13

weird divergence in that we're

26:15

getting, or it

26:17

looks like we're getting a Tony stuck in his

26:19

armor story

26:22

before it officially finishes up.

26:26

But I just, I love Iron Man

26:29

when we get big robot battles, basically,

26:37

you know? But I also

26:40

love, I didn't

26:42

think I was going to like Tony's relationship with Emma,

26:45

and it's really grown up. It's really grown

26:47

on me, and I'm really enjoying it. That

26:49

was, I mean, that was the thing I was

26:51

loving about the book, really. And

26:54

I've been reading Iron Man for years now,

26:56

pretty much unbroken, and it's a little like,

26:58

he's out of money, he's lost his company.

27:00

Can we just make him, like, yeah, tell

27:02

the story, do whatever, but it's been like this

27:05

for years. It's just like four, look at me sad, I don't have

27:07

my hand, or you know, whatever, just like, let him be, let

27:09

him be Tony Stark again. But the thing is that

27:13

Emma-Tony thing was really compelling in that same

27:15

way, like at first, you're like, this is

27:17

a terrible idea. And

27:19

then, you know, like Jerry Duggan won

27:22

me over, I'm sure

27:24

there's others, and so she's not in this part of

27:26

the story, and I feel like I

27:28

get it that this is like confrontation with the

27:30

big bad guy, but it's her

27:32

story too, and having her

27:34

not here is crappy. And

27:38

also just a big fight between him and the other guy.

27:41

Well, I mean, you need that every single day. I know, I

27:43

know, you do, but

27:45

like, and there's obviously like they're gonna bring

27:47

him low, it's like, oh, I can't get

27:49

through this. Right. Can

27:52

I tell you something that really bothered me in this? Sure. And

27:55

I didn't love this issue, for all those reasons. At one

27:57

point, like he flies out of the 73, and

27:59

he's, flying around in the 72. I'm

28:02

just impressed, I remember these numbers. And

28:04

then he decides, oh, I gotta get back in the 73. And

28:07

then on the next page, he's inside

28:10

it and he's manipulating, he's apparently in some

28:13

giant room, which is that ongoing question of

28:15

like, when we see Tony Stark like that,

28:18

is he in like, where is he? Because

28:20

he's in armor. And then he

28:22

said, and he doesn't have his helmet on, and he says,

28:25

oh, and I took my helmet off. And I was like,

28:27

why and when did you take your helmet off? He

28:29

didn't need to do that. I

28:32

get it in a movie, they're actors. You

28:35

can just be Iron Man in the Iron Man book. It's

28:37

on the cover. I don't need

28:39

to see his mustache. And

28:41

it was just this, like, it was

28:44

this manufactured peril. Sure. That

28:46

didn't need to be there. And that sort of shot for

28:48

years. I think Bendis was the first one to do it.

28:50

Or maybe it was more in Ellis,

28:52

Armor Wars, whatever. Just that when he's in

28:54

the armor, he's standing in a big glowy

28:56

black room. Don't,

28:59

like, I don't need to see

29:01

inside the armor. I get it, it was in the movies,

29:04

but there's a reason why it was in the movies. And

29:06

it just doesn't need to be in the books like this.

29:08

And I find it confusing. Because then I have to, you

29:11

know what, I'm taking it back a little bit. So I

29:13

was about to say, then I have to think about it.

29:15

And then I was like, it's awesome that comics make you

29:17

think about weird shit like that. I

29:19

just don't like this part, this one, I guess. It

29:23

throws me out of it. So that's totally subjective. That's fair.

29:27

Yeah, but it feels like, oh, the book changed.

29:30

Now we have to do this other thing. Also,

29:32

I looked up Fei Long on

29:34

something, because I was trying to remember who he was. Because I

29:36

was getting him mixed up with a Sinister

29:38

2, because he's pink. Anyway,

29:41

whatever, and he's just got normal parents.

29:43

I mean, they're, but you know how

29:46

the Marvel has the, they all do,

29:48

but they have the ratings next to their attributes.

29:50

Well, Fei Long's thing is that his intelligence

29:52

is a six. And I was like, then

29:55

what's he even doing here? Ha

29:57

ha ha ha ha ha. Yo,

30:00

Iron Man, Tony Stark only

30:03

goes up against eight at a minimum

30:07

This guy holding his own took over his

30:09

company apparently built better armor and he's a

30:11

six I

30:14

don't I think that's not an official site.

30:16

I think big at the Wikipedia. Oh I

30:20

was I was That's

30:23

like yeah, it's like spider-man strength is a

30:25

three it isn't he's Eight

30:29

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Yeah. That's how it works. And

32:14

now we come to

32:17

the vengeance of the moon night,

32:19

uh, from Jed McKay and,

32:21

uh, the delightfully pronounced Alessandro Capuchino.

32:24

That's right. Um,

32:26

what's going on? Here's the thing. The, uh,

32:28

actually had this been, uh, last

32:32

issue, uh, would not have made

32:34

the list. I actually, it was, it'd been a little down

32:36

on the book. Um, but

32:40

this book or this, this issue,

32:42

um, really

32:45

kind of kind of picks it back up. And

32:47

I think it's one of the thing I

32:49

think Jed McKay does really well.

32:52

Um, and especially kind of

32:54

in concert with, uh, Alessandro

32:56

Capuchino and Rochelle Rosenberg, the

32:58

colorist is, um, when

33:03

Jed needs to get all of his,

33:05

you know,

33:09

info dump stuff like out of the way.

33:12

Um, and then like kind of opens it up,

33:14

opens it up a little bit for, for some

33:16

fun action. I think that's really when, uh, the

33:20

book kind of, um, sings

33:22

because I think the dialogue

33:25

that Jed McKay writes during

33:27

action scenes is actually very

33:29

good. And, and so

33:32

then when you put it, you know, you put it all together,

33:34

um, that's what really,

33:36

that's what, you know, in my opinion makes

33:38

for, for great comics. And I think the,

33:40

uh, where I'd been getting bogged down a

33:42

little bit is there was almost like too

33:45

much story happening. Uh, recently

33:48

and with all of the stuff going on, um, where,

33:51

you know, you know, what

33:54

is going on with Mark Spector and moon

33:56

knight and all that jazz and it's

33:58

just, Like a part of

34:00

me was just like, okay, can we like speed it up

34:03

a little bit? Can we can we get moving? Can we

34:05

get moving in this issue was okay. We're moving and I'm

34:07

like, all right. I'm in He's

34:09

a vampire now Yes

34:14

In a sense kind of remember that yeah it's

34:19

there's but look I I

34:22

think This

34:24

whole kind of twist has been has been very

34:26

interesting I don't know as if it

34:28

necessarily needed to like I mean I get it I

34:31

mean they you know wanted to get another sales hit

34:33

and so they you know rebooted the the series But

34:37

this felt like it could have been more

34:39

of Almost

34:43

more like I would have appreciate I think I

34:45

would have liked this more as if it were

34:47

a bit more of a mini event than Necessarily

34:50

starting as a you know, you know kicking

34:52

it off as it as its own series

34:54

And I'm sure maybe as we

34:56

get Further along

34:58

in this so we'll all start to make sense, but

35:00

this could have been In

35:03

the regular, you know, it didn't need to have a new

35:05

number one, but you know, it is it is what

35:07

it is But they do. Yeah Every

35:10

chapter is gonna get a new number one. I do

35:12

dig. I do dig the You

35:15

know the the modified costumes and stuff like that.

35:17

And so But yeah,

35:19

I didn't want to say too much about it because I

35:21

know I talked about moon night all the time when I

35:23

when I'm on here, but this is one of those if

35:25

you were like me and kind of just wondering When

35:28

and where the story was gonna pick up. This is where

35:30

it picks up With

35:34

the art in this book is weird There's

35:36

certain pages where I'm like, wow, that's gorgeous And then

35:38

there's other pages where it's not really doing much like

35:40

the ones where they're sort of standing around talking Yeah,

35:43

that's just it like but then when

35:45

they're in costume doing stuff, it looks amazing Yeah That's

35:48

weird. Yeah, then like and it's sometimes they're

35:50

like it like it said Especially in like

35:53

the last issue. There's there's too much of

35:55

the standing around talking There's

35:57

yeah Which is like

36:00

Which you know, it's one of those things like it's

36:02

a rule you can break if you're really good at it. Right. But

36:06

you aren't always. Superman

36:09

number 855 by Joshua

36:12

Williamson with art

36:14

by David Baldion and Norm Rappond.

36:18

You put this on here. I did.

36:20

For some reason. I'm surprised that a

36:22

Superman book. Yeah, I

36:26

don't really read Superman. Yeah,

36:28

that's kind of what I was getting at. So,

36:31

but I love

36:35

Joshua Williamson. And so

36:37

I wanted

36:40

to when I realized

36:42

that Superman was more

36:44

the superhero book, I

36:46

decided to give just to

36:49

give it a shot. And

36:52

I really liked it. And like

36:54

this is, you know, it's the end of an arc. And

36:57

I mean,

36:59

I mean, man, Joshua Williamson made me a

37:01

Superman fan in a sense. And more

37:03

so he made me a Lex Luthor fan throughout

37:08

this. I think Lex Luthor is the

37:10

most malleable villain in

37:13

that he can be anything and he works

37:15

really well in that in

37:17

that way. He because you never

37:19

quite. It's not like he's converted.

37:22

Right. You know, you're like, oh, he's a

37:24

good guy now. But you get this sense

37:26

like, he wants to be, but he's, you

37:28

know, he's a narcissist. Sure. He only he

37:30

only cares about security and glory and all

37:33

that. But like when he's

37:35

forced to I think he

37:37

works when he's forced to do something that, you

37:40

know, you know, he doesn't really want to do but has to

37:42

do. That's when I think he's that's when

37:44

I think he's fun. There's a

37:46

big retcon here is that they're

37:48

basically said when Luther got to

37:50

Metropolis, he

37:53

was trying to be a superhero first thing. That's

37:56

not that's new. I think I'm converse. Yeah,

37:58

I have no idea. I love that he's

38:00

really been married to green and purple. Yeah.

38:04

All along. And

38:07

why, like, you know those are the Joker's colors,

38:09

right? There's

38:11

one bit in here that I did not like. And

38:15

there's a bit where they're at Super

38:17

Corp. And

38:20

Bruce, or not Bruce, Clark

38:23

is playing, you know, Super CEO.

38:26

And Lois, like, breaks in and he

38:30

rolls his eyes at her. He

38:33

says, we'll talk later, Ms. Lane, and he's rolling his

38:35

eyes. And I was like, never in a million years

38:38

did he roll his eyes at Lois

38:41

Lane in front of other people in

38:44

his dumb coat. Yeah,

38:47

I'm not, like, I get the idea. I think they're having a

38:50

ton of fun with the designs. I hate all of them. Yeah.

38:53

That's fair. But I don't hate that they exist. That

38:55

makes sense. It's all horrible, but I

38:57

accept that. There's

39:01

a great, there's that one page with Parasite, which

39:04

I think is fantastic. I've been a good Superman.

39:06

I want to help. He's like, you are Rudy.

39:09

And I really actually really love the art in there. Yeah, I

39:11

was just going to say, it's super exciting.

39:14

I do not like the model of Superman

39:16

in some of the pages. He looks too

39:18

much like John. He looks too young. But

39:21

other than that, like, sort of the storytelling and the figure

39:23

and the dynamic action and the

39:26

everything, I was really, I was like, this is

39:28

really great. This is beautiful. So

39:31

I was up and down. But

39:33

ultimately, it's fun Superman books. So what you can, you know,

39:35

it should be wacky and it is fun. Wonder

39:38

Woman number 807 or 7 from

39:42

Tom King and Gia March,

39:45

who is not the normal artist on this, but is

39:47

a delightful guest to come

39:49

on. This was one

39:51

of those cute timeout stories where

39:55

Wonder Woman and Superman

39:58

go to the Intergalactic Mall,

40:01

which is like the Mall of America, but in space,

40:04

the Andromeda Mall. And they're trying to

40:06

find a gift for the birthday

40:08

of the man who has everything and

40:10

wants nothing, Bruce Wayne. And

40:13

they have a nice day out at the mall

40:15

together. And it's a sweet little story. And it's

40:17

one of those things where you get to see,

40:19

you know, Superman and Wonder Woman, they

40:22

don't have to worry about anything. And they can just be comfortable

40:24

with each other. And it's one of those, no

40:26

one can know what they know. You

40:28

know, no one else understands each other like they do.

40:31

Much, much like two old comic

40:33

book podcasts. Like we get it.

40:35

Yep. It's okay. We understand, you

40:37

can relax here. This

40:40

included the world's worst pun

40:42

ever. Where they said where Superman

40:44

said, what if we just get him

40:46

a soda, and we drink all the liquid

40:49

out of it. And then you give

40:52

him the thing Batman loves most, just ice.

40:57

Which I talked

40:59

directly to Tom. And

41:04

he had those. I

41:07

did. I said to the person, Tom,

41:10

and he's like, listen, man,

41:13

you know, it's not okay. It's

41:15

not. It

41:18

was it was clever and how terrible it was. Sure.

41:20

I was like, I, you know, the mind that thinks

41:23

it up, you have to be impressed with. But

41:25

you don't have to tell anyone about it. The

41:28

thing about a pun is that you think of it

41:30

and you're like, God, that really is very clever. And

41:35

I want to know people know that I thought of it.

41:37

But you should. This is

41:39

terrible. That

41:41

was good. The

41:43

Nacela verse, number zero. Now what I learned

41:46

about this, I did not read it, you

41:48

will talk about it. This is

41:50

a thing that exists. I

41:52

did not know there was another verse. Well,

41:55

it's new. So the Nacel

41:57

company is a company fronted

42:00

by Brian Volkweis who is of

42:04

the toys that made us, movies that made us,

42:08

a bunch of other specials

42:12

and stuff that you can find on various

42:14

channels and streaming services and things like that,

42:17

is a lifelong toy

42:20

collector. And a couple years

42:22

ago started picking up a

42:25

bunch of old toy licenses, including Sektors and Robo Force

42:27

and Gar and Power Lords. And it wasn't until

42:29

they picked up Biker Mice from Mars that I

42:31

was like,

42:44

Oh, because I

42:46

love Biker Mice from Mars. And

42:49

that was really what made me like

42:52

kind of pick this

42:54

up. And I knew of Robo Force.

42:56

I liked Robo Force for

42:59

the exact reasons why I liked Iron

43:02

Man this week. I just like big robots doing

43:05

things. And so this book

43:10

is a bit of a mixed mix. So basically what they're...

43:12

So this is part of a

43:15

very bigger, more ambitious

43:17

plan where they're doing a

43:19

bunch of cartoons for all of

43:21

these. Ryan Reynolds is producing or has

43:24

a producing partner on Biker

43:26

Mice from Mars, Dwayne The Rock Johnson, I

43:28

believe is a... And

43:30

his company is coming in for Robo Force.

43:33

And so there's a lot of attention

43:37

around this. And this

43:39

book is supposed to

43:42

kind of be the starting

43:44

point and then bridge for all of

43:47

the stuff that they have coming out,

43:49

which sounds totally crazy,

43:51

totally ambitious. Who

43:53

are these characters? What are they kind of

43:55

thing for literally anyone picking these up outside

43:57

of the people who... know

44:00

maybe what some of these licenses are like for

44:02

me with biker mice. And

44:05

it and

44:07

somehow it works uh

44:12

for you for me it works for

44:14

me uh garlou is

44:16

kind of the the main you

44:18

know kind of the the needle

44:21

threading this all together um you

44:23

know i think i don't think there

44:25

is anything that will ever get me interested

44:27

in uh in sectors at all uh sectors

44:29

is the only one i knew i had

44:31

some and i

44:33

mean like i don't think about it like they like sect

44:37

i don't know if you'll remember this you probably won't because

44:39

you were a zygote um

44:41

they were like action figures they were i mean

44:43

there were thundercats knocked off and

44:45

they came on like

44:47

their mounts were giant bugs and

44:50

that each of the bottom of them was a glove

44:53

and you stuck your hand in the glove

44:55

and therefore you then became the legs of

44:58

the bug because they were

45:00

either furry or smooth or whatever and then they

45:02

like sat on top of them and i hate

45:04

bugs but i had two of those because it

45:06

was a neat mechanism and i don't even know

45:08

if there was a show i don't understand like

45:10

how a guy goes from being a big toy

45:13

collector to like did he make a lot of

45:15

money off toys and

45:17

did he then did he produce the toys that made

45:19

us or is he just like a featured no he

45:21

produced that he is the mind behind the toys that

45:23

made us yeah and also

45:25

he's like and like he is also uh

45:29

early in in in brian volkois's career and

45:31

i think he still does this he produces

45:34

a lot of comedy specials uh

45:36

as well and has worked with a bunch of

45:38

really big name comedians and stuff like that and

45:40

he's produced uh he's produced some of the the

45:43

disney artifact shows that are on

45:45

disney plus um okay

45:49

better you know like oh so he knows

45:51

how to get things yeah yeah yeah and

45:53

so um and so yeah and he's a

45:55

super great like super great guy super enthusiastic

45:58

um and like again for me Right? Like, you know,

46:00

I just, again, I came for the biker mice and the

46:02

biker mice delivered. And, uh, I

46:05

look forward to Oni putting on a

46:07

new biker mice book because I'm that

46:09

kind of sucker for nostalgia. What

46:12

happened to Oni? I

46:16

don't even recognize Oni anymore. They should change

46:18

the name. I think, I mean, look, I

46:20

think that's what, that's what they're, that's what

46:22

the kind of they're going through now. Right?

46:24

Like Hunter Gorinson, I worked with at Marvel

46:26

and he's, you know, a publisher over there

46:28

now. And, you know, I think

46:30

he hasn't been there long, but. I

46:33

mean, listen, what they used to do that I

46:36

loved, I don't know that there is a market

46:39

for, I think for a second, probably pretty much,

46:41

you know, taking that up. That, you know, the, the Scott

46:44

Pilgrim days are over, but I don't know

46:46

what it is anymore. And that each other

46:48

than just like, it's so different than

46:50

what I expected. And I keep going, well, maybe this

46:52

is a book. And it's not, um,

46:55

and again, it's not even a, it's not even

46:57

a comment on the quality of things. It's just,

46:59

it's so different. Um, and

47:01

you know, image is different than it was 10

47:03

years ago, 10 years before that. But different than

47:05

it was five years ago. Crazy.

47:09

Uh, those are the books that we wanted to talk about. Um,

47:11

but each week the patrons, uh, get

47:14

to vote on a book. And this

47:16

week, that book is man's best number

47:18

one from, uh, porn sack, uh, Pishishote,

47:21

I think maybe who, who did some,

47:23

some really interesting books. Good Asian. Um,

47:25

he used to be an editor at,

47:28

I think it was Vertigo, but, and then

47:30

it was, uh, DC after there was no

47:32

Vertigo. Um, Jess Lonergan on

47:34

art, amazing artist. He did some sort

47:37

of, I don't know, was it

47:39

one shot or something year or

47:41

two ago, blew my mind. And I've been

47:43

following on Instagram and just, just beautiful art,

47:45

uh, letters by Jeff Powell. Um,

47:49

I would describe this as there's a lot

47:51

of pet books going on right now. There's

47:53

a lot of people who love pets and they

47:56

love we three from Vertigo and

47:58

they're, they're taking their swing at

48:00

it. Yeah, and

48:02

this is another one of the homework homeward

48:05

bound in space. Yes That's kind of yeah,

48:07

that is that's kind of it. So you've

48:09

got you know, the alien not aliens you

48:11

get the pets and they have robot armor

48:13

and their training

48:17

to fight Clangers

48:19

which are big evil robots? But

48:22

then some of that takes place in VR. I guess

48:26

It's a weird setup It's

48:28

a it's a very strange and like after that it

48:30

kind of stops making sense to me I

48:33

guess they're on a spaceship that's trying to find a

48:35

planet. Yeah, and then it

48:38

crashes and They're the

48:40

ones left and they got to go be good dogs so they

48:42

can get back to their master I guess who

48:44

crashed in the in the ship, but then other people

48:46

kidnapped them a lot happens

48:49

But I'm not clear on what most of

48:51

it is the the thing that I think

48:53

is stealing me the most on this book

48:55

Is is the art on it? Oh,

48:58

yeah. Yeah, I mean I really enjoyed just

49:04

Going through the going through my first read but

49:06

then like flipping back to like just

49:08

look at certain pages and panels more and

49:10

more That's

49:13

probably what's gonna get me to issue two and then

49:16

and then I'll probably go from there But

49:18

again, I mean that kind of same boat where it's just like, you

49:20

know, it feels like there's a lot going on here I think I

49:22

need a little bit more Information on

49:25

like just really the the core

49:27

direction and what this book is

49:30

For me to stick around but I

49:33

think one of the things is When

49:37

you have cute animals The

49:41

instinct is to sort of be like

49:43

that's enough, right? But

49:45

what we have here is a cat a dog

49:47

and a cat. Nope. No two

49:49

dogs in a cat And

49:52

they have personalities there's the one dog who's been

49:54

every fucking story with pet with the other more

49:56

perfect pets is like We got to do the

49:58

right thing for a master I'm a good dog Then

50:01

there's a cat who I don't really

50:04

know the cat's personality But it's usually it's a little bit and then

50:06

there's another dog who's kind of a dick and

50:08

he has a big rocket on his back, which is awesome,

50:11

um and I don't

50:13

think that They're

50:15

all knit they're named after the port

50:18

those Athos and the

50:20

three mess catheters No,

50:23

I didn't know that I didn't spend enough

50:25

time with any of the characters to know who they

50:27

are Why I give a shit. There's a lady who's

50:29

like their trainer and she seems to

50:31

be in love with the jerky guy in an

50:33

eye patch Who hates the animals? Which

50:36

is weird? Like

50:39

basically like I don't feel like I was introduced to the characters

50:41

very much to give enough of a shit right at

50:44

all and and and as

50:46

such because the pet

50:48

characters are really very um a little

50:52

cup little cookie cutter Exactly

50:54

what you would expect them to be Yes,

50:57

and You know, yeah, it's just saying if

50:59

you're doing Homeward bound, I guess that makes sense It's fine, but

51:01

I've read a lot of books like this recently. I feel like

51:04

You know that Tom King is doing I

51:08

forgot what it's called the tip whom also The

51:11

dog pound one or the pet shelter,

51:13

I figured it's called You

51:16

know, they have those kind of animals, you know, I've seen

51:18

the secret life of pets one and two I You

51:22

know and and again There's

51:25

not a lot here that wasn't in we three and we three

51:27

was fucking amazing I haven't even seen it. I couldn't tell you

51:29

what it was, but I know it made me cry and it

51:31

was three issues You

51:35

know, it's a it's a tough thing to go after

51:37

yeah in terms of a genre And I don't

51:39

know what this is bringing to it that hasn't been

51:41

yeah, I think I said, right I just wish this was

51:43

a little bit more straightforward And

51:46

yeah, and that just like the like you said

51:48

the pets Are

51:51

Exactly what you would expect and like

51:53

and for you know, like and like

51:55

honestly sometimes that can be enough

51:58

but I don't but Like I

52:00

don't know what the stakes really are yet.

52:04

And I feel like I should at least know what the stakes are in

52:07

a sense or. Well,

52:09

I mean, I would boil that to I don't know why I'm

52:12

supposed to care yet. There wasn't anything in here that made me

52:14

care. None of the relationships.

52:17

The closest thing that was interesting is

52:19

the one dog who has an

52:21

awesome jet pack on his back, which helps. Not

52:24

a jet pack, like a rocket. He's got a big ass

52:26

rocket and he's impetuous. And he's got,

52:28

you know, he's got an inferiority

52:30

complex. That's it. And it's,

52:32

that's not a lot to go on. I'm

52:35

gonna say, I'm gonna say a phrase to you that I'm thinking

52:37

about. Oh boy. Jess

52:39

Lonergan is like

52:42

a minimalist James Stokoe. Oh,

52:45

yeah. There's

52:48

something here that's like that. These, these

52:50

sort of thin lines that

52:54

the panels, the way that he does

52:56

panels and the sort of squares within

52:58

squares and he does, you know, that

53:02

the way that he controls the dynamics

53:04

in the sizes and placement of the

53:06

panels is so interesting

53:08

and so good. It's

53:11

the kind of work that you don't

53:13

see very often in

53:17

mainstream comics because people

53:20

don't have to, I guess. Like there's a way that's, and

53:22

you know, that's tricky because you don't want to try to

53:24

be too inventive. But

53:27

it works really well in here. And as I

53:29

look through, it just seems very deliberate and

53:31

it, he's controlling how things feel

53:34

by cramming panels together or letting them breathe, which

53:36

is not like a new, sure. But

53:39

the way that he's doing it feels new

53:42

and skilled and it is

53:44

really interesting. Yeah, I mean, look, the character models

53:46

are beautiful. That's

53:48

what's getting me to issue too. Yeah,

53:50

that's very fair. And if

53:53

there was gonna be anything, and the spoiler,

53:55

I don't know that I've decided on that. It

53:59

will be that. But I instantly perked

54:01

up at that name because I remember you like

54:03

this a lot of artists that come through but

54:05

every once I used to it was that book

54:07

from image I forget But I was

54:10

like who is this person? Um, and then

54:12

I instantly like found as much art as I could

54:14

on them and it's just not a lot of comics

54:16

out there The Jesse Lonergan

54:18

is done. So he's somebody to watch out for Okay,

54:21

it's ratings. Okay ratings

54:27

Three this is out of five, right Yeah,

54:30

yeah, I'm three is fine. I think three is fair. I

54:34

think three is generous

54:38

I mean, you know, it's weighted on one side or the

54:40

other I it's it's too

54:42

it's too ambitious by half and it's from

54:44

a story for perspective and There's

54:47

a lot of heavy lifting in there. Are you

54:49

you are sticking? I'm gonna I'm going I will

54:52

do one more I will look at

54:54

the next one. I mean, that's fair And

54:57

I'll see, you know, if I'm looking through it and it

54:59

grass something grassy about it I'll you know move

55:01

that into a reading but I'm gonna look at the next

55:03

one I did that for

55:05

a long time with them Greg small

55:09

It was a moonlight book. I was like, I don't really like

55:11

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55:13

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57:12

normal mortal humans. And Joseph

57:14

Israel is your

57:17

burden to bear. I've

57:20

thought about this one. Okay.

57:23

How long? Not

57:26

a terrible amount. Probably the last five. It's

57:28

okay. about

57:30

numbers just because we're here. Like three minutes. Okay,

57:34

fair enough. I

57:38

thought about it much less. Joseph will

57:42

never, ever have to worry about

57:46

a can of soda exploding on him, ever.

57:49

Let's say you were carrying 12 pack of your soda of choice into

57:56

your house and you drop them and

57:58

you're really looking forward. to

58:00

cracking one open and drinking it

58:02

and you're like, oh my god, I'm gonna

58:05

have to wait like two or three minutes

58:07

to It all to settle for me

58:09

to open this thing again. No, no not

58:12

for Jess if First

58:14

of all two or three minutes is not long enough

58:16

if you're talking about a high fall for a can

58:19

He do he just and look like he just he

58:21

just puts his hand on the can and that

58:24

can Will

58:26

open with such ease No

58:29

explosion no nothing just that

58:31

but that clean crisp Okay,

58:37

that's slight mist slight mist I

58:39

can tell that I'm talking to a soda drinker right

58:41

here Because you put me in a sense memory like

58:43

I don't smoke but I think this might be just

58:45

as bad But what you just said was just like

58:51

Yep, I Heard it and I

58:53

felt it and what I thought was does he make it flat

58:55

and you said no That's not what he brings it back to

58:58

the proper level back to the proper level He

59:01

reabsorbs those carbon dioxide

59:03

molecules to the

59:05

to the correct level That's it,

59:08

huh? Does

59:10

it work with any? Any

59:12

kind of carbonated beverage or is it only soda any kind

59:14

of carbonated beverage if it is in a can if it's

59:17

a two-liter bottle that got kicked Okay,

59:21

so any sealed can any sealed container

59:25

Joseph's there any sort of recarbonation

59:27

issue No, he

59:29

can only okay. He can only Decarbonate

59:35

okay, he cannot read cannot raise

59:39

Because because that carbon that carbon

59:41

dioxide is still in the can He's

59:44

just replacing it to have been right

59:47

part of the the liquid solution. Yep

59:50

As opposed to struggling to get out You

59:53

can tell that my tenure my grasp on the science

59:55

of it is very tenuous But I'm trying to act

59:57

like I know I don't I don't think

59:59

I I'm wrong, but I'm very well could be. All

1:00:02

right, I like that. That put me in a time

1:00:05

and place too. There you go. Yeah,

1:00:07

you put me somewhere. And you know

1:00:09

that Joseph is, it's almost like a sure

1:00:12

bet that he's like, I hate soda. He's

1:00:14

a like, he's a tea guy. He's

1:00:17

an icy guy. It's

1:00:20

just water that's slightly brown. Okay.

1:00:27

Like I said earlier, there's some emails here I think it'd be

1:00:29

fun to do. Jordan from

1:00:31

Alabama says, I was

1:00:34

listening to the latest pick of the week

1:00:36

podcast and y'alls conversation about J. Michael Sierczynski

1:00:38

on Captain America got me thinking. And just

1:00:40

so you know, when I read this, it

1:00:43

didn't go where I thought it was going to go after this. And

1:00:45

I'm thankful for that. I myself have never

1:00:47

been a huge fan of J. Michael Sierczynski comics. The

1:00:49

only notable exception to this was his very brief Thor

1:00:51

run from 2007. We're

1:00:53

all brief because he always quits before they're

1:00:55

over. Jordan, I'm stopping. No, I'm not gonna

1:00:57

keep going. Are

1:00:59

there any creators, either artist or writer

1:01:01

that you traditionally dislike, but

1:01:04

have had a series run or issue that you

1:01:06

did like? And if so, why? I think it's

1:01:08

a wonderful. Oh, that's

1:01:11

interesting. It is. This

1:01:13

will, this will, this is a starter. And

1:01:15

I know that it'll speak to you in

1:01:17

a certain way cause you are a huge

1:01:19

fan of Dan Slott's run on Amazing Spider-Man.

1:01:21

Am I a huge fan? I thought you

1:01:23

were. Am I wrong? I

1:01:26

don't, like clockwork. I

1:01:28

have only ever been in to

1:01:30

every other arc. Dan

1:01:32

has written on Spider-Man. Oh,

1:01:35

maybe that's what it was. Either way,

1:01:37

I was so not into Dan Slott

1:01:39

on anything, really. It

1:01:42

wasn't that I didn't like it, it just

1:01:45

didn't do. Like I remember there was Fantastic

1:01:47

Four, there was Amazing Spider-Man, there was Iron

1:01:49

Man, but that Fantastic, wait, I'm

1:01:51

sorry, I meant to say Amazing Spider-Man and it

1:01:53

was another one, it was a silver, whatever. The

1:01:55

Fantastic Four run that he had just before this

1:01:59

stellar Ryan Northwood. run. I loved every

1:02:01

single bit of it. I

1:02:03

couldn't get it. I don't know what changed from

1:02:06

sort of the guy who I wasn't

1:02:08

for, but in that context, man,

1:02:11

I couldn't get enough of that series every

1:02:14

issue. It's the first thing

1:02:16

I thought of. I've got probably

1:02:19

a fairly controversial one. Ooh,

1:02:21

I like this. Grant

1:02:24

Morrison. Okay.

1:02:26

And the thing

1:02:28

I did like? Oh, man. Final

1:02:31

crisis. It's

1:02:36

not controversial. It's baffling.

1:02:39

To be fair, I did love All Star Superman, but I

1:02:42

didn't read that until after. And

1:02:44

here I am talking about Wii

1:02:46

3, like it's some sort of

1:02:48

sacred text. No. And look, I

1:02:50

think the problem was is I

1:02:54

got into Grant

1:02:57

Morrison late, I

1:02:59

think. Or you know what? I got into

1:03:01

Grant Morrison when he was writing Batman. And

1:03:03

that was rough. Man,

1:03:05

that made absolutely no sense

1:03:08

to me. And

1:03:10

then I tried something else thinking, maybe

1:03:14

it's just maybe it's me. Then I tried

1:03:16

something else and I was like, I don't

1:03:19

get this. But then final crisis was

1:03:21

happening and I had just really gotten into comics and

1:03:23

it was probably the first DC

1:03:26

event that was happening as

1:03:30

I just got in. And I

1:03:32

read it and I was like, wow, this is great. This is

1:03:34

like, I don't like, it

1:03:37

was one of those, it's the same thing I get when I read

1:03:39

Jonathan Hickman books sometimes where like I don't truly

1:03:41

understand what's going on, but I have enough of a

1:03:43

grasp of what's going on that

1:03:45

I'm like, oh, I'm interested. And then

1:03:48

I read All Star Superman and then I read

1:03:50

Wii 3 and I was like, oh, these are

1:03:52

the books that I now I understand. But

1:03:55

for a while I was If you've read Animal Man?

1:04:00

and everyone keeps telling me to read Animal Man, but

1:04:02

that feels like something that, I don't

1:04:04

know if I care enough about Animal Man.

1:04:06

You don't have to. I mean, I know.

1:04:08

It's one of those that's real good. Yeah.

1:04:11

Like, and not in the like, this is, I

1:04:15

mean, the thing about Grant Morrison is

1:04:18

it's always been, Connor Nivos says it,

1:04:20

that he

1:04:22

swings for the fences every time.

1:04:24

Right. Every single thing

1:04:26

is a full-on haul, and

1:04:29

you're either gonna like it or not,

1:04:31

and he's either gonna succeed or fail,

1:04:33

and he's failed. I mean,

1:04:35

it's subjective. Some people love her or whatever, but some

1:04:38

things don't work out, but you

1:04:40

just gotta appreciate

1:04:43

the hustle of it. You know, it's just like,

1:04:46

I'm gonna throw everything at this, and

1:04:48

it may or may not come out at the

1:04:50

end, and that's just how he rolls. You know,

1:04:52

it's like a top chef episode. Like, just go

1:04:54

for it. That's

1:04:56

a good answer. I like that. I'd

1:04:58

say that if I really wanted to zoom in on

1:05:00

exactly what the question is, the

1:05:05

first Paul Jenkins thing

1:05:07

that I ever read was

1:05:09

Inhumans, which was a miniseries that

1:05:12

came out of the relaunch of

1:05:14

Marvel Nights. It was

1:05:16

one of the series along with Kevin Smith's

1:05:18

Daredevil, and

1:05:20

a very forgettable punisher, and

1:05:23

a Black Panther or whatever.

1:05:26

And Inhumans, drawn

1:05:28

by Jay Lee, remains one

1:05:30

of my favorite miniseries. Not

1:05:33

necessarily because it's one of the best things ever, but

1:05:35

it's one of the first things I ever read with

1:05:37

those characters that opened

1:05:40

my eyes to be like, oh, wow, this is great.

1:05:42

It was very early in my sort of reading comics

1:05:44

as a young adult kind of thing, and where I

1:05:46

was trying to sort of understand the form and everything,

1:05:49

and I just loved it. And

1:05:51

I've said since then that there's some of my

1:05:53

favorite characters. I couldn't tell you another Inhuman story

1:05:56

that was worth a damn since then. Yep.

1:05:59

But that was the- That's legitimately the only

1:06:01

one. Kinda, yeah.

1:06:03

The Kirby stuff. Right. And

1:06:06

so based on that, I said,

1:06:08

well, I gotta follow this Paul Jenkins guy, which

1:06:12

has proved to be a huge mistake for

1:06:14

me. And I've like almost nothing he's ever

1:06:17

done. And people gotta remember-

1:06:19

You didn't like the original Sentry stuff? That's the

1:06:21

next thing that him and Jay Lee did was

1:06:23

the Sentry. Right. No. Oh,

1:06:26

I loved it. Oh. No.

1:06:29

I loved it. Man, I followed that guy around

1:06:32

for five years and at one point I

1:06:34

was like, I think I hate everything he's done.

1:06:38

He's some great issues of Hellblazer. I will

1:06:40

say that. But like since then- No. No,

1:06:44

the Sentry, like it was

1:06:46

a huge, like at the time it

1:06:48

was hugely hyped. Right.

1:06:52

Right. And it was like gonna be

1:06:54

a really big deal. And so it's one of those things that

1:06:56

you go in, and I was all in. You

1:06:59

go in and you're like, I'm

1:07:02

so into this and we're gonna see and this

1:07:04

is gonna be great and you're reading it. And

1:07:06

it takes a little while. The

1:07:08

first time I saw the Phantom Menace, I'm like, oh, I

1:07:10

don't think this is good. Like

1:07:12

it didn't occur to me that it wasn't gonna be good.

1:07:15

Right. And then it just

1:07:17

got worse and worse. And now the

1:07:19

Sentry is hilarious. Yeah,

1:07:24

that's my- it's sort of

1:07:26

backwards. Like I love the first thing and then never

1:07:28

again. I'm sure there are others.

1:07:30

This is an awesome question. Yep. For

1:07:33

sure. You wanna read the next one and we'll finish

1:07:36

it up? This one is from

1:07:38

Jason, Parts Unknown. I've

1:07:40

been thinking about this for a month or two now. A

1:07:43

couple of months ago, I read four or five

1:07:45

comics and I thought to myself, boy, those are

1:07:48

great. And then following the following

1:07:50

week, I read seven or eight and thought, oh

1:07:52

man, those are terrible. When

1:07:54

I was trying to dissect what made one week

1:07:57

over good over the other, I realized that

1:07:59

it wasn't good. wasn't the comics themselves,

1:08:01

but that I was in a good

1:08:03

mood reading one week over the other.

1:08:06

The week they were good, I was reading them

1:08:08

as part of winding down at night, and the

1:08:10

week they weren't good, I was reading them earlier

1:08:12

in the evening while our home was still buzzing

1:08:14

with activity. Since this obvious

1:08:16

discovery, I now won't read

1:08:19

my comics each week until I'm in the wind

1:08:21

down phase of the night. It won't

1:08:24

make a bad comic better, but it has

1:08:26

made me enjoy what I'm reading a bit

1:08:28

more. So this is a long-winded

1:08:30

way of me asking what mood do you

1:08:32

try to create for yourself when you're reading

1:08:34

your comics for the week? That's

1:08:38

a good question. Now I

1:08:40

know that my situation is unique

1:08:42

in that every week there is a sort of

1:08:44

a forced march to get a bunch

1:08:47

of books read within a given amount of time,

1:08:50

which has led me to a situation

1:08:52

that I will describe in a minute.

1:08:55

What's your situation? You're keeping up,

1:08:57

obviously. I mean, it's... I

1:09:02

have never... Well, no,

1:09:04

that's all I... The only

1:09:06

time I ever

1:09:09

read comics not work-related

1:09:11

was the two years

1:09:13

I got into comics

1:09:15

before I started working

1:09:17

at Marvel. So

1:09:22

I have always had to read them for work,

1:09:24

but that said, there are

1:09:27

books that I

1:09:29

will respectfully

1:09:32

wait to read when

1:09:35

I have the time to appreciate them and

1:09:39

can take my time with

1:09:42

them. And

1:09:47

I save those books. I'm fortunate that in my spot at

1:09:50

Comic Book Now, I don't have

1:09:55

to be as on top of stuff. Like,

1:09:58

the Wednesday they all come out. But

1:10:01

it doesn't stop me from needing to continue

1:10:03

to read a bunch of stuff to keep

1:10:05

up and see what's going on and see

1:10:07

where, you know, there's stories and things to

1:10:09

come out. But

1:10:12

no, I mean, like, look, it's, I need to, when

1:10:14

I have a stack of stuff that I, actually,

1:10:21

you know, a perfect example is just

1:10:23

recently I read It's Lonely at the

1:10:25

Center of the Earth by Zoe Thurgood.

1:10:29

And I really

1:10:32

wanted to read it in one go. I

1:10:35

did not want to read it in part,

1:10:37

so I really wanted to sit

1:10:39

down, read it and get through it.

1:10:42

And so I put the book

1:10:44

off for quite a bit because I just didn't

1:10:46

have the time to do it. And

1:10:50

then it got,

1:10:53

I got warm out here. And then I got,

1:10:57

I was asked to moderate a panel she was going to

1:10:59

be on at Emerald City. I was like, well, shit, now

1:11:01

you're really going to read the book. And

1:11:05

it just so happened that, like,

1:11:07

we had a nice day. I

1:11:09

sat outside and I read

1:11:11

it and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

1:11:13

And I, but like more than enjoyed it. But

1:11:17

not only did like I enjoy it,

1:11:19

I enjoyed the time and the

1:11:21

experience that I got while

1:11:24

reading it. I

1:11:27

think that's important. It

1:11:30

is difficult, I think, to put

1:11:32

this in the context of being a recreational

1:11:34

reader at this point for me. Yeah. I

1:11:37

do know that I have evolved in

1:11:40

this sense. There was a while

1:11:42

where I enjoyed the ritual. When I did

1:11:44

this job full time, I felt

1:11:47

every week that I'd get my comics, like

1:11:49

it was like such a privilege that I

1:11:51

would be reading comics. And I'd

1:11:53

be like, I have to do this. This

1:11:55

is my job. How lucky am I for that? And I

1:11:58

actually was, when I was living in the city. in

1:12:00

New York City. I

1:12:02

used to go into the city on

1:12:04

Wednesday morning. That was my

1:12:06

job. I didn't have to hang out. Sometimes

1:12:09

I took the subway, sometimes I ride my bike and

1:12:11

I go to Midtown Comics at Grand Central.

1:12:15

Then I would find a place to have lunch and

1:12:17

I would read comics as I did that. I

1:12:20

loved that ritual of it. Sort

1:12:23

of in the middle section after that, when I

1:12:26

had to squeeze reading in and

1:12:28

I would do it all on a Wednesday night, that

1:12:30

got to be a bit of a forced march. I

1:12:32

think that was when I was closest to like

1:12:35

I had to be in a good mood. But I also had

1:12:38

to look at them objectively

1:12:42

or whatever. Then for some

1:12:44

reason over the past chunk of

1:12:46

years, I don't know, pandemic or a little before that, the

1:12:50

mood doesn't matter. I don't find it. Sometimes

1:12:53

if I'm distracted or not, but

1:12:56

I've got

1:12:58

it down to like a very... I can

1:13:01

be taken away by something. I'd be

1:13:03

like, wow, this is great. Pretty much anywhere. I'm

1:13:05

pretty good at it at this point. Yeah. I

1:13:07

think you hit the nail on the head in

1:13:09

that for me, I just

1:13:12

need to not be distracted. Yes. I

1:13:15

can be in a bad mood and a bad

1:13:18

book will put me in a worse mood, but a good book

1:13:20

will pull me right

1:13:22

out of it. I

1:13:25

mean, I would go so far as to say, I don't

1:13:27

even hate reading bad comics at this point. I

1:13:30

mean, like I don't want to, like as a whole

1:13:32

thing. And sometimes there's bad and sometimes it's just worthless.

1:13:35

The bad, I really, as a

1:13:38

part of me, I'm proud of the knowledge that

1:13:40

I have built for myself and being able to

1:13:42

recognize something in a comic that doesn't work and

1:13:44

be able to sort of spot those problems or

1:13:46

trying to work out why it doesn't actually find

1:13:48

that like, I don't know, academically satisfying or something

1:13:50

like that. But the one thing that's

1:13:52

different now is that I've always like, I can

1:13:55

find something to appreciate in a lot of comic

1:13:57

books. I mean, we just gave a fairly. dynamic

1:14:02

review to man's best.

1:14:05

But there's still a part of it, I was like,

1:14:07

look what this person's doing there. And it's also very,

1:14:09

I mean, I think you know enough creators as do

1:14:11

I, like, you

1:14:13

wanna find something to appreciate because you know on the other

1:14:15

side of that it's a tough. You don't wanna set a

1:14:17

person to make a bad book. Right, but also there's another

1:14:19

side of that is that there's a person who is almost

1:14:22

certainly making less money than they would anywhere else who really

1:14:24

wants to make comics. Some

1:14:26

of them are assholes and aren't any

1:14:28

good. You can not like those books

1:14:30

freely. But that's very few and far

1:14:33

between. I don't

1:14:35

know, I've become a little zen about it. One

1:14:38

thing is, and I get lucky, is that I

1:14:40

get some books early and I've learned to, the

1:14:42

past few years I have learned to space out

1:14:45

my reading so I don't have to do it all

1:14:47

at once. I can read a bunch of them, like

1:14:49

sometimes I'll start before the weekend and

1:14:51

that gives me time to sort of spread them out. That

1:14:54

helps me a lot. I don't wanna, I hate, like

1:14:56

I don't wanna read for four hours. It's

1:14:58

not fun. I

1:15:00

can still appreciate them. That's a good question though. It's something

1:15:02

I think about because I've definitely noticed a change for

1:15:05

me. Awesome questions. You

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talked about something about the Oscars

1:15:22

and we did our TV, our TV

1:15:24

to watch, I was gonna say challenge,

1:15:26

that's not exactly it. We

1:15:28

all talked about the shows that we

1:15:31

have in our backlog that we wanna watch and

1:15:33

the other two voted on the shows that

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we have to watch before the next Media Explode. So we

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all have our assignments and we'll come back. There's

1:15:40

only murders in the building on that list? They

1:15:42

all watched that. They had that,

1:15:44

they did. I never wanted to watch it so

1:15:46

it wasn't on my English list. I

1:15:49

just started season three. I'm loving it. They

1:15:52

do too. My wife loved it. I'm

1:15:55

not under the Martin. The Martin and,

1:15:57

hey they're both Martins. I just put that together.

1:16:00

You know, Martin and Martin Spell. Let's

1:16:02

do it for me, whatever. No,

1:16:06

I have to watch The Gentleman on Netflix. I

1:16:09

think I would have liked it better if we made somebody

1:16:11

watch TV shows that they weren't planning to watch, but then

1:16:13

you'd just go into a defense if it didn't work. That's

1:16:15

true. This

1:16:17

past week, Talksload finally came out.

1:16:19

My February show, You Do the Math. I

1:16:24

talked to Rob Williams, a

1:16:26

Welsh comic book writer, currently

1:16:29

slaughtering it on Petrol Head from

1:16:31

Image, starred by Pypar,

1:16:34

but the guy's been on Judge Dredd for

1:16:36

20 years. We talked about

1:16:38

Dredd and how I don't really know anything about it, and

1:16:40

I thought it was really fascinating. I loved his Ghost Rider.

1:16:43

Yeah, he's also done a lot of bits

1:16:45

of Big Two here and there. Ghost

1:16:48

Rider, Punisher Suicide Squad, a lot of

1:16:50

stuff. He's a Suicide

1:16:52

Squad, not so much. Really good creator-owned

1:16:55

stories that pop up now and then. He was

1:16:57

sort of like a Vertigo guy who showed up

1:16:59

at the wrong time for Vertigo, which sucks. Really

1:17:02

thoughtful about... We talked about story and how to

1:17:04

put them together and how he does that as

1:17:06

a sort of workaday writer. Like

1:17:09

any sort of British person, I was like, I

1:17:11

don't know if anyone wants to listen to this. I was like, no, no,

1:17:13

you're here at the right place, dude. Yeah,

1:17:16

and if you're all interested in the craft of making

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comic books, there'd

1:17:20

be a lot worse ways to spend an hour and

1:17:22

change. Then Booksload

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is coming up. Connor and I will be

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talking about the French adaptation of

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Homicide, David Simon's

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wonderful novel about Baltimore murder

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police by Philippe Scorson. I

1:17:37

think I'm saying that. Yeah, that sounds about

1:17:39

right. I had to look at the cover to get it right. Volume

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one, for sure. Maybe volume two,

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And there we are it goes so fast, doesn't

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it it really does. Ah, it's a good

1:18:53

time. It's good to talk to you I

1:18:56

love this. What is the light? What

1:18:58

a delight? Is

1:19:00

there anything that you you have to tell the world

1:19:03

about? No, I mean

1:19:05

look good comic book calm. Lots of great stuff

1:19:07

there. Well, there you go time It's

1:19:09

not it's not just comic books is it? No.

1:19:12

No this wrestling. I know

1:19:14

that Mm-hmm. I Think

1:19:16

we wrote a we put a story up last night

1:19:19

that I don't know if you if you're a fan

1:19:21

of subway and their Sauces you can buy them at

1:19:23

your grocery store now Um, i'm

1:19:26

not But if you were

1:19:28

yeah, no, then you're correct. There's definitely

1:19:30

I would love to hear the numbers on that

1:19:32

one All

1:19:36

right enough that they keep happening that

1:19:39

makes me josh i'm

1:19:41

jim Thank

1:19:55

you Every

1:20:00

God, you and

1:20:02

all our faith

1:20:09

x3