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This is iFanboy Pick of the Week, episode 924. Brought

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to you by iFanboy listeners just

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like you. Hello,

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my name is Connor Calpatrick. This is

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my co-host Josh Flanagan. What's up,

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kids? And this is iFanboy Pick of the Week,

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episode 924. And Josh, I

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am so excited to do

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the show this week. Mm-hmm. I'm

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excited to talk to you as always. I

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really enjoyed my books this week. I

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was just like, I was looking forward to

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record time, is what I'm saying. Well,

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that just put a lot of pressure on me. I

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hope you did too. I

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mean, I'm hoping it goes well. I

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am totally... I'll tell you what's actually going on right now. Like,

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my body and mind are reconfiguring

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themselves to do this. And

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I'm not quite there. I'm gonna... I'm... We're gonna go through.

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We're gonna be just fine. But I

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haven't quite locked in yet. I

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went from like... I mean, also, my neighbor gave me a

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bunch of powder. I don't know what the powder was. Right.

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You're like, don't worry, I'll talk. I'll take over. I'm really excited.

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Yeah. Uh... It was

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talcum. You know what? I've been that

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excited about Goldbond, especially like

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extra strength Goldbond. You

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know, like on a... In like a humid city with a

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lot of walking. Oh yeah. You know what I'm

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talking about? I haven't had the need to put it on in a

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while, but sometimes I just think about putting it on just for fun.

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Every once in a while, my kids will be like, this hurts a

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little bit. And I was like, oh, boys, come here. Let

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me tell you about the magic of Goldbond.

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And then they give you that... They

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gave you that look like, oh. Oh

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my God. This episode brought to you by Goldbond. I think we try

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to get them as a sponsor. Yeah, we did. Yeah, yeah, we definitely

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did and and and that's

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good stuff. I'm I feel 100 they've

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helped me so often I feel 100% okay by

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giving them free promotion Let's

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we got a lot talk about let's move on every week about

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one of us reads all their books and We

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talked about the one I like the best that's called the pick of the week Talk

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about that book the other books in a week the patron picked listener mail.

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It's gonna be fun and Here's

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spoiler warning. This is a review show Actually

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size some caution Josh you had the pick of

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the week. So this

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ventures Twilight Book

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five. I didn't realize I didn't

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realize until you'd point out that it's

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getting the black label treatment It's a

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book five because that means that's like

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prestige. That's the prestige thing though. I

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don't buy Sort of physical issues

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anymore. So I don't know if there's a square bound

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That used to be and now it has to

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say book whatever and like oh, this is literature

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Five picks for this series. Is

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it really I thought I knew it at least one

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and then I felt I checked make sure another pretty

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sure pretty sure I

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was Pretty deep into

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what was a quite big week? Like I

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really it was I think I'd 19 20

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books something like that and I had

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no front-runner I had enjoyed books that

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I'd read but there was nothing

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where I was like us thing and as

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I'm reading We're on alternate issues

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of one three and five of all the pick them up

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well the of the I mean the odd issues that makes

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sense You

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me you okay, give me you Is

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the sixth the last issue or I think

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so Six

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this is side of six on the app here.

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Well, we'll see how it ends. I'm reading

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this book and Largely

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Marveling at at

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the art there was a like a lot of times

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where I just thought oh my god because I remember

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It was not too many months ago. Just before this came out

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where I was like, whoo Who was that

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guy who was amazing and it took a minute to think of

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his name surprise surprise Like what's

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he been doing and then sort of it shows us

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books? Yeah, and it it

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took me almost a little while to acclimate to be like

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I had this guy is good but

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I think hitting I'm not

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gonna say he hit his stride in this because it's been really

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good, but Basically

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as I was reading this I just want us like oh,

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this is This is comic

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books. This is the Avengers. This is this

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is like an Avengers movie That's

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what this book feels like this could be like

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a two movie like this is epic enough,

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but also Believable

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enough, you know, but it has it has

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a lot of things in it that really

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get to the core of these Marvel characters

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You have you know normally

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Steve Steve

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Rogers is a man out of time but

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in this he's actually older and he's

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falling away from it and he has another life that's

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pulling him into it and Everything

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has changed about the world and we're again we are

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thrown in There's no explanation.

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We are in a different world right from the

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beginning. We figure it out as we're going along

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things have changed considerably you have

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So we have a header field that um, and

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I and I read this and I didn't look it up backwards,

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but I believe Jarvis whose

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first name was Kyle Is

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that correct? Well,

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not not it's not the Jarvis we know and love that

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was that was his brother But

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you're telling that sometimes you've got an Edwin

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and you got a Kyle what Kyle's born

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in the 90s It's

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like three generations apart Because

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because at the beginning James Stark is

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saying to New

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red skull who he's saying no call me Johann now

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And I was like wait that was Jarvis his

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name's Kyle Jarvis that is the worst

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choice in the entire book Okay,

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so just so I got that. Okay. No, no, that was

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silly. It's it's it must it's gotta be canon There's no

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it wouldn't make any sense or or I

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mean like the other thing I thought of and I like

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somebody just thought was really funny It's

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the name of Kyle. It doesn't make sense. Yeah,

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let's do it I like that's the only other

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thing I could think of anyway You know that

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characters is all these characters related to other characters.

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We kind of know and then through

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this cool sort of story it

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turns out that Jarvis is actually

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the soul of The red skull

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and you get a redesigned Ultron

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Iron Man robot red

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skull whose whose body

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is actually being absorbed by the By

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the suit and he's like hey you're leaking and

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there's blood coming out the bottom and later you

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see it's all of this stuff and

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It's the red skull like and when he comes on you're

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not you're not like oh, this is just a different version

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of him Like there's been in the comics like the red

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skull was a different character for a while Like this is

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Johann Schmidt And so you know and then

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there's the like Ultron shows up and you're like this is really

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bad And I I

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like it. He's got he's got Tony Stark's

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son on His side

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and and then finally the other thing that

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got me here Is that there is a

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little bit of a ripped from the headlines

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situation going on here where they're talking about

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like the world Doesn't believe in heroes anymore

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And they talk about the fact that once people

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believe something it's hard to convince them otherwise now

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that is straight out of the world That we

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are all living in right now every you know,

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you know armchair A literate

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person thinks that you know, they want to talk about

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this and just for a second I

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was like, you know what this actually is I

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think it's done really well if we're talking about

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an American condition and how things you know If

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you start going well wait, so was the metaphor

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that the red skull is what? It

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doesn't matter I actually thought it was done really well

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in a way that is suitable for a Marvel comic

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book of this kind of story And it will work

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if you read it in 20 years or you work

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if you read it, you know 40 years

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ago, it has to work that way. Otherwise,

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it's dated. Yes because it's not so specific

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Even though the president here looks a lot

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like Trump Least

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in like silhouette Um, and

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I just, as we're, we're really brought to a

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head. Also there's a, there's the thing where the

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skull takes his, it's

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an amazing, he's slowly, his

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helmet comes undone. He's looking at the president who

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looks like Trump and Robert Redford mixed together. Um,

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and, and there's a great little sequence of it like opening.

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I was going to say that's Trump season, the mirror, but

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this is hair that he was going for. And

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then you see like he's got the Darth

8:26

Vader, uh, you know, mask off

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kind of thing, but he has like tubes going

8:30

into his eyes and you realize that like all

8:33

of the biological is being replaced,

8:36

which is stimulating the body. Yeah.

8:39

You know, and like the fight is, is really big.

8:41

There's one more reveal at the end and it's not

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like some character you don't know. Here's the deal. This

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book is terrific. So everything I'm about to say

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is not a criticism because I love this book.

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It is terrific. However, it is

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kingdom come. We made, we made that joke in the beginning.

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Hmm. It's definitely kingdom come. If

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you had any question about that here, Luke Cage

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shows up in a Batman kingdom,

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come exoskeleton to fight. And

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then the whole sequence where Iron

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Man goes to stop the nuclear bomb being dropped before

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it killed everybody, which is just straight up the kingdom come.

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And it turns out it's a mine altered Hulk, which is

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just like the mine altered captain Marvel, it's

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almost the same kind of final page. Uh,

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Stark is a dog. It's,

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it's kingdom come. And I'm no problem with that

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because comics are constantly referring to themselves. And you

9:24

know, the rare, you'd get a cross aisle reference

9:26

like this, but it's definitely has

9:29

kingdom come, uh, in its

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DNA of the whole, you know, generational divide,

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old heroes returning to set things right. You

9:36

know, it's all there, but just

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Darcy Daniel Kounya and let's not discount

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Joe Caramania never,

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um, heavy lifting, telling a

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really compelling story in, in,

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in a way we haven't had in an

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Avengers book. And I don't know

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how long, you know, the event book itself, you

9:57

know, we hear Jason Aaron telling, you know, okay. to

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sort of inconsequential stories. Jed

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McKay's telling okay to

10:05

inconsequential stories. We've got occasional

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miniseries here and there. Usually the retro ones have been

10:09

terrific, but for the most part, I

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haven't felt this way reading my Avengers book in a

10:14

long time, maybe a decade. It's really fun.

10:16

Let's point out the Alex Ross cover. And

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I, because I don't talk about covers enough, but

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I opened it and I was

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like, that's a great cover. It's a good

10:26

design. I wonder if he's doing the character

10:28

designs. He usually likes to do those things,

10:30

but it's probably more of an entericunia. But,

10:33

you know, we said this last time, we talked about it, but it does

10:35

feel like, oh man, I wish there were 12. I

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wish we really got to dig into this world and really learn

10:39

about it. But it's also

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really fast paced and exciting. And as

10:43

a six, it's turned out the

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pacing is actually working. And

10:48

there hasn't been an issue, you

10:50

know, and there is. When there's eight, when there's 10,

10:52

when there's 12, there's usually a one or two in the middle.

10:55

You're like, all right, let's get through it. Like this is boom,

10:57

boom, boom, boom, boom. I want to know

10:59

what happens next. You know, a wall to wall action.

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There's not a page in here that

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there isn't something just fantastic on,

11:06

not a page. You

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can look at every page and you can find something great.

11:11

I was also thinking about a Kunia. He's

11:14

guys clearly doing digital, right? Yes,

11:17

it's good. And

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that is not to say that digital isn't good

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or bad. It's a lot of times there are

11:26

people who are trying to replicate,

11:28

and some are successful at it, but they're

11:31

trying to replicate what was done

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on paper on digital and

11:35

you can kind of see it. Whereas

11:37

this, I think Greg Small with another guy who does

11:39

this too. They're

11:42

owning the digital. They're

11:45

not trying to hide it. They're not trying to imitate,

11:50

you know, analog. And

11:53

not everybody can do it. Other people have owned it

11:55

and it's just lifeless, but, you

11:57

know, this is, you know, again, and

12:00

Greg Smallwood are probably some of the best

12:02

sort of full-on digital. Did

12:05

Smallwood do the colors in... Yeah, he

12:07

did. Yeah, same kind of

12:09

deal. They're controlling the process. And

12:13

it's funny because Acuna's the opposite kind of

12:15

artist of Smallwood. This

12:17

is all like... No, I

12:19

mean, this is all like Neil Adams' wall-to-wall action,

12:22

and I feel like Smallwood can do it, but

12:24

he also just did a bunch of beautiful design

12:26

and kind of moody stuff that's sort of calm

12:29

and brooding. I can definitely see

12:31

that. There's also a sense of realism

12:33

in Acuna's work. It is exaggerated realism,

12:36

but it's... I totally

12:38

understand what you're saying. And

12:40

you can see Kirby, and I can see

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Busema, and I can see Neil

12:46

Adams in this. Again, not in

12:48

an I.M.I. But it's that energy. There's a bit...

12:52

The drama between Tony Stark and his son and all

12:54

the stuff that goes on, I was like, it's really

12:56

well written, and it sort of understands the characters. But

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it's also like amped up. His

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son's going nuts. He's got... There's

13:04

a shot on page 29, and

13:06

you see James' face. The mask

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is open. He's raving. Yeah,

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he's crazy. Yeah, he is. And the whole time you're

13:14

like, I really... I want

13:16

this to be okay. And they have that... You wonder

13:18

if he's gonna get the Ben Skywalker treatment. Not Skywalker,

13:20

Ben Solo treatment. He's gonna get redeemed, but he's

13:22

pretty far around the bend at this point.

13:24

Yeah. He's

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the Magog, right? So... No, he's... Is he the

13:29

Magog? I think he is, yeah. And

13:32

Magog has a turn, right? Yeah, he

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totally does, yeah. And

13:37

then, of course, the end Hulk shows up and

13:39

like that, shazam. Right.

13:42

And that's how you raise the stakes, right? It's the last stake

13:44

raising is to add the Hulk to the mix. There's

13:47

a terrific sequence where Ms. Marvel and

13:49

the new Hawkeye have their own version

13:51

of Fastball special. It's a

13:53

really fun team they've

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got here. They're sort of recreating a very

13:59

classic team. James is Cap and it's Tony and it's

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Thor but then there's a

14:03

new Hawkeye and then you had Ms. Marvel

14:07

and then Luke Cage is kind of there but

14:09

he's sort of in the background. It's a fun

14:11

group. Chip's doing a

14:14

terrific job with the tone of this book which is

14:17

important and serious but not weighty in

14:19

terms of – it's not overly so.

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And I really like – it's just incredibly fun. I'm

14:25

looking forward to issue six. It's like

14:29

good old superhero comics for

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now. It's

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got everything that's good about the past but it's clearly

14:37

a modern comic book. Yes.

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It's a wonderful sort of amalgamation of all the things

14:42

that are good about it and it's like really –

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it's very much doing justice to the name of Avengers

14:47

on the front in a way that many comics have

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not in a long time. And we're on the fifth

14:51

issue. Everyone has been fun and

14:53

exciting. This was in like a

14:56

ramping up way. Like at first you're like this

14:58

is really cool. I don't know what it is

15:00

yet and then it pays off. That's

15:02

something. So many people

15:04

can get away with the

15:06

idea and sort of the introduction being like

15:09

that's awesome. And then having it

15:11

sort of follow through. We don't know what the

15:13

ending is like yet but now I've got a lot of trust

15:15

in it so I guess it could let me down but I'm

15:17

thinking it's not going to. So

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let's discuss the

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X-Men. The

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fall of the House of X. Fall of the House of X. All

15:27

right. First of

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all I would like to hope that the

15:31

X-Men fans of this show, X-Men

15:34

readers who have been listening to this show who

15:36

have probably been like feeling

15:39

big and got the short end of the stick for

15:41

a while. I hope that they got some

15:43

solace over the last six months or so as

15:46

we've been really into this X-Men event. Both of

15:48

us. We've talked about X-Men more in the last

15:51

couple of years than you and I had. Ever.

15:54

Maybe the whole us at rest of

15:56

the time. And I think that Jerry Duggan

15:58

has done. Wonderful

16:00

job. It's sort of like I

16:02

assume that X-Men people are getting a lot out of this

16:04

and And and

16:07

I've been able to too. So I think that that's really nice Well,

16:10

just I mean I know X-Men

16:12

fans are right are

16:14

very particular. I don't even know however

16:20

It's not a criticism. We used to host the

16:22

show with one of them. However, I do

16:25

think a little bit that this one this is This

16:28

this is where the stories and I get

16:30

you want to do this when you do comic books It's

16:33

turning in the end of the world. It just it feels like

16:35

it's too much. I Feel

16:38

like the story we didn't care about was the

16:40

space stuff. We really care about the space stuff

16:44

Which is fine was Krakow always group

16:46

is he not a group? Yeah,

16:49

Krakow is a is a living it was a

16:51

living island It's a personified now. He's a tree

16:53

on the Well, cuz they

16:55

had like shrunk them down So

16:58

maybe don't make him look like group Yeah,

17:01

the art wasn't the best. No issue.

17:03

No Coloring was

17:05

right. I'm continually amused like

17:08

if you go to page 16 where All

17:11

these artists they get no one can look

17:13

up a baseball field reference. It's

17:15

like Just look it up on the internet.

17:18

It's just that the base but

17:20

that's between side classes legs is next to

17:22

the mound Like I don't know what happened

17:24

here But Whoever

17:27

drew this page it was two artists Lucas were not gonna

17:29

death row Morales on this book Someone

17:31

needed access to the internet. I think to see what

17:33

a baseball field looks like. It doesn't matter. The art

17:35

wasn't the best I'm

17:39

hanging on my fingernails for this finale

17:41

cuz I am You

17:43

know, I didn't want to just drop out right before the

17:45

finale of this whole story They've been reading this entire time

17:47

and I've been I've been enjoying the Jerry Duggan parts And

17:51

the ending was storm was appropriately like exciting

17:54

But I am looking forward to the next phase

17:57

I know the comic I hate that about you

17:59

know Comic fandom is there where you're constantly

18:01

looking ahead ahead ahead and not enjoying what's in front of

18:03

you I really like this cricola

18:05

era the ending isn't my favorite because it deals with the part

18:08

of the story I didn't care about the most so I'm just

18:10

sort of well Reading it cuz

18:12

I'm enjoying it, but I'm really just now. I'm

18:14

just curious. What's happening But I don't but it

18:17

undercuts the whole idea that it was this like

18:19

humans against mutants thing I think and

18:21

it was about the aliens in I know but

18:23

earth and humans and mutants and like that

18:26

to me is the story That's the interesting thing and so

18:28

if you make it if you say at the end well,

18:30

it was never about that It

18:33

was about the AI the whole time That's what

18:35

it is. I panic. I don't like that Well,

18:37

how do you get the humans in the how do you get the humans and

18:40

the mutants back together as you had the robots in? I

18:42

guess but the bad guys in this weren't

18:44

human the humans in this that were bad

18:46

guys weren't redeemable characters Yeah,

18:48

the most of them are dead though. Yeah, that's true.

18:50

They really have killed the shit out of them You

18:53

got to give them that the page wouldn't you apocalypse are?

18:56

Much better than the pages with the

18:58

other characters. Yes. Those are good pages.

19:01

I don't know who did those. Yeah I feel

19:03

like Lucas Warnock was the name of student before so

19:06

off The

19:08

show just in our own personal life you and

19:10

I have discussed John

19:12

Constantine help laser dead in America We

19:16

haven't talked about the show too much. Let me talk about one of the

19:18

issues But the last time an

19:20

issue came out we and I both talked about it just

19:22

on our own saying what is What

19:25

is happening because we loved size barriers Run

19:28

on the book and then we loved that

19:30

miniseries he did Which was like

19:32

really good. We got like three pics of the week out. Yeah Which

19:35

is about English this one? It's

19:38

not good. I'm not see

19:40

I'm ever good this issue was good Yes,

19:43

that is kind of where I'm at and and I

19:45

think for me the big thing here is that I'm

19:48

gonna tread some ground lightly is what I'm about to do.

19:50

I Feel

19:52

like throughout this help laser in America

19:54

thing. I have become

19:56

slightly defensive about British

20:00

perspective on America because

20:03

I think it's a

20:05

little heavy. It's

20:08

just like it's a little basic. It's a

20:10

little surfacey. It's a little on the nose. And

20:12

it's criticism. It almost feels like, do you

20:15

remember we used to work for a British company and we'd

20:17

go over to the office in England and they would criticize

20:19

America. Yeah. It's like, yeah, all the

20:21

stuff you're saying is not wrong, but it's also very not

20:23

nuanced. Well, I also, and they would be like, well, it's

20:25

like this. And I was like, that's half of us. Like

20:28

yes, half of us are like that. Half of us aren't. And

20:32

it's interesting because I was also thinking about the fact that

20:35

everybody can do this about Americans, British people,

20:37

certainly. They do stories about America. People write,

20:40

British people write Americans all the time. Americans,

20:43

I can't think of a lot of instances where

20:46

we write about the British condition all that often

20:48

or like British politics or

20:50

like culture. It's like, we can't figure

20:52

it out, but they can do it the other way. It's very strange. But

20:55

I was a little like,

20:57

but again, that said, the

21:00

themes in this, the

21:03

sort of solution to this problem, the

21:05

story that goes on in this issue,

21:07

despite some of the ham-handed stereotypes of

21:09

middle America, basically. Like it's

21:12

so easy to, and that's what it is. It's like

21:14

they're stereotypes that don't really follow through. Now there are

21:16

people like that, but it's a little sort of a

21:18

cartoon version of people. But

21:20

the story that takes place in this one and

21:22

the way that, there's a town that has a

21:24

sickness and because of it, a swamp thing stuck

21:27

in a cornfield or something like that. And

21:30

the sort of way that they bring it

21:32

out and what it means. And even that was a

21:34

little on the nose, but I thought the story was

21:36

well done and the way that it was revealed was

21:38

still done. So structurally, I thought that was really nice.

21:40

The other thing I think going on here is that I actually

21:42

really like the interactions

21:45

between the characters in this. While

21:47

I'm not enjoying the sort

21:49

of like, here's what's wrong with America, I think

21:52

this little group of characters, Constantine and the

21:54

Scottish girl and his mute son, is really

21:59

interesting. The Swamp Thing and Constantine

22:01

has always been good and then you got that other

22:03

lady in the bottle. And

22:05

then finally Sandman, like all that stuff is actually

22:07

pretty interesting. If you,

22:09

this was like a special that came out, like

22:12

a one shot Hellblazer book. Yeah. I'm

22:14

like wow, that was great. I just

22:16

couldn't tell you if this tied into the rest because it

22:18

is so not stuck in my

22:20

brain with the story this book is. He's

22:23

retrieving the sand. That's all. That's

22:25

the overall story, he's looking for Sandman sand. I

22:28

don't remember if this town story was a thread

22:30

line or this was a new thing. I just

22:32

couldn't remember because... No, it's new. They're going... It's

22:34

a road trip. I'm just saying I didn't remember because the

22:36

through line of what's been happening in the book other than

22:38

the Sandman stuff has not stayed with me because I don't

22:41

find it that compelling. So this particular story

22:44

where he and his son go to this town where

22:46

this football team is doing horrible things to women

22:48

and they're not getting punished for it and they end

22:50

up punishing them was really good. Really

22:54

really good. The method by which they're punished is

22:57

pretty rough. Right. It's

22:59

good. And in the

23:01

Sandman, the Swamp Thing stuff was

23:04

good. Aaron

23:06

Campbell has drawn all of these stories

23:08

for Size Barrier. He's still terrific but

23:10

this was the first issue that really, I realized

23:13

that this was a good issue. One thing that

23:15

was actually really nice too is I thought that

23:18

Swamp Thing is basically like

23:20

fuck humans, you're a disease.

23:24

And he kept going on and I was like this is a

23:26

fucking bummer. And they do the thing

23:28

where they're like well there's good in them and you can be saved. I

23:31

mean it's a little touchy feely but I was like okay I

23:33

needed that because it was too much of a bummer. And

23:36

I don't want Swamp Thing to be like fuck

23:38

humans. That's not... That was kind of also in

23:40

the vein of the criticizing of America stuff. Sure.

23:43

Okay. Well what else are you at? And

23:46

you're right. You want Sandman... Fuck. You

23:49

want Swamp Thing. Why did that happen? Swamp

23:51

Thing could be a bit more human. Especially

23:54

in a world where there's all these magical abilities and you can

23:56

do anything. That's the problem with...

24:00

of real world problems in

24:02

these fantastical worlds is that in reality,

24:05

any number of characters in the DC universe can

24:07

fix climate change. Right. If this

24:09

is real. And so the problem with dealing with it is like,

24:11

well, why doesn't that guy fix it? Why doesn't Firestorm take all

24:13

the stuff out of that? You

24:15

know, it's just, that's why you just

24:17

better not to because it's just, it's so on, it's

24:20

like, it's a problem

24:22

bigger than the DC universe and

24:25

yet smaller within it. So that's why I was like,

24:27

okay, well, I mean, I'm pretty sure

24:29

some of his buddies he could do together and fix, fix

24:31

the pollution. Yeah. The

24:34

football player in

24:36

the bathroom looked about 35. I

24:38

was actually just thinking that. I just, I think

24:40

that, I don't know. It's

24:42

just, it feels knee

24:45

jerky, liberal, like, like look at

24:47

the rednecks. Just,

24:50

by the way, did you see the Maria Lovett cover? Alternate

24:54

cover. Yes, really good. Awesome. I

24:57

was like, who's that? I was like, oh, cool. It's

24:59

the Crave Lady. Yeah, really good. I

25:01

mean, look, this is a good issue. Yep. This

25:04

was, I was kind of dreading reading it. Yeah.

25:07

And I started to, I was like, oh, okay, this is good. But I like

25:09

three quarters there too. I was like, I'm really into this. And when I finished,

25:11

I was like, oh shit, that was good. Yeah, it was. And

25:14

there was a reveal of the solution or the

25:16

come up and I thought was, like, is there a

25:18

second? I was like, did I miss it? And

25:20

they really like made you wait for it. So it was the

25:22

last thing in the book. Wonder

25:24

Woman number eight, Tom King, Danke, this in Paris.

25:26

Now we're back to the story. Last issue was

25:28

that sort of side story, which I assume was

25:30

to keep Daniel St. Perre on time. Thank

25:33

you. So we're back with the main story in which

25:35

Wonder Woman is being held captive by the King of

25:37

America. And

25:40

this was a very disturbing issue. I loved

25:42

it. And I thought that it was worth mentioning

25:45

because of that. Like,

25:47

anytime a comic can have a, or

25:52

cause me an actual, like, you know, physical

25:55

feeling, cause I'm dead inside.

26:00

It's worth noting like this like this whole issue. She's tied

26:02

up with the with the lasso

26:04

of lies and He's

26:07

trying to sort of you know cause make

26:09

her submissive And so

26:11

she's stuck in this fantasy fifties Fantasy

26:14

cuz it's not real not because it's good this

26:16

fantasy fifties world where she's married to Steve Trevor

26:18

and she's the perfect fifties Housewife and he's an

26:20

asshole. You make Don Draper look like a

26:23

super dude. Yeah Steve

26:25

Trevor well, he's just all the more Yeah

26:27

all while though in the in the real world

26:29

the president the king is berating her and reading

26:31

her scriptures about how women should be submissive and

26:34

I mean look if you go back to

26:36

the world to the Start of Wonder Woman the

26:39

Golden Age and you know anything about her creation This

26:41

was her being a submissive and being of

26:44

all being about being tied up was a

26:46

heavy part of her character cuz the creator

26:48

was it was into that into it and

26:52

So this is a sort of a play on that about

26:54

her. You know that part of her creation is hers her

26:57

as The submissive woman,

26:59

you know, there's a part where he pours a

27:01

glass of wine on her head I was like fuck this is this

27:03

is disturbing but in a good

27:05

way. Oh because when

27:07

she breaks out at the end, it's very cathartic

27:11

and Not to mention

27:13

the sort of side-seek what's in the middle where the

27:15

three wonder girls are right

27:19

Torturing sergeant's deal for information Yeah,

27:22

not really torturing but you know psychologically

27:24

torture. Yeah, I mean like I think

27:26

that There was so

27:28

much good in this and I don't mean good like

27:30

so much quality comic booking in this that

27:33

and It's

27:35

again like with the Tom King like he's

27:37

his work right now It's a very varied

27:39

all the books you have out are completely different

27:41

from one another and this isn't following his, you

27:44

know tight grid rule I

27:47

don't know that I've noticed Daniel Semper like

27:49

I've been like that's great. But this issue

27:51

specifically I was like, this is gorgeous And

27:54

his ability to do that, you know

27:56

Americana 50s thing that first page where

27:58

you see her first It covers awesome.

28:02

The storytelling of it, everything about it is great.

28:05

And then the first page you see her in her

28:07

kitchen and her 50s get up and it's like, your

28:10

first image, your first thought is, this is like

28:12

this romantic version of America. She's beautiful, she's in

28:14

the kitchen, she's happy. And

28:18

then it quickly, they put you back and

28:21

then the reality is terrible and you're like,

28:23

oh, is this gonna be like

28:25

a star-o thing? Is she living her

28:27

best life in this? And quickly

28:29

you are disabused of that. Cause

28:32

he's awful right away.

28:34

The husband, Steve, Steve Trevor. Yeah, I think

28:37

I liked the device a lot where in

28:39

the 50s fantasy world, she was

28:42

speaking in that world, but thinking in the

28:44

real world. That was

28:46

a good device to show the tension of

28:48

the situation. And

28:51

it was a very

28:53

disturbing comic, again, in a really good way.

28:56

And I really like, I mean, just like the

28:58

help, actually the king of America guy looks a

29:00

lot like the help. Tom's

29:03

working through something. There's

29:05

like a page, what is it? Page

29:07

12 and he's sitting in his chair and he's

29:09

holding his glass of wine. And just like you

29:11

look at him and it's

29:13

such a non, it's a

29:16

terrifying, but non-assuming character. He has old man

29:18

shoes on. He is... Well, let

29:20

me say as someone of a group in Manhattan around

29:23

a lot of really, really old money rich people,

29:25

this is how they dress. Oh, absolutely. The

29:28

penny loafers, the blue blazer, the white

29:31

shirt. I mean, the ascot is probably the most

29:35

sort of affectatious part of his

29:37

outfit that wouldn't be something that

29:39

you don't see Walker and Park Avenue, but this is basically

29:41

how old rich

29:43

money dresses. Still,

29:46

do you think? Still, yeah, for

29:48

sure. The same people? It's

29:50

the same people, same families. And

29:54

now look, I mean, my only criticism of this book is not

29:56

really a super criticism, is that there's just no way it's just

29:58

happening in the regal DC universe. I don't care either. the way

30:00

it doesn't really bother me or affect my enjoyment of the

30:02

book or not, but you know,

30:04

it just doesn't. Just this is no way. But I

30:06

also will. I really like the backup story in this

30:08

one. Oh, I didn't

30:11

read it. Oh, I thought it was really fun.

30:13

It's the it's basically Damien and Jonathan are watching

30:15

the daughter of Wonder Woman. I don't really know

30:17

where she comes from, what it's about. This is

30:19

part five of a story that's been going on,

30:21

but it works on its own as a story.

30:24

She does some time traveling. John

30:26

unlocks the Fortress of Solitude with a giant

30:28

golden key, which I always appreciate. You

30:32

know, it's silly. It's silly enough that

30:34

I went back to be like, who wrote this?

30:36

And it was like, Tom had written this too.

30:38

There's a great page where

30:41

realities are changing around Jonathan

30:43

and Damien. And you see them.

30:46

You got it. If you read it, I don't even know

30:48

how to explain it, but it's a beautiful page. It's a

30:50

fun little backup. And they're not, they're not always, they're usually

30:52

not. So worth pointing out.

30:56

I've really been loving Batman off world. This

30:58

is number four of Jason Aaron and Doug

31:00

Monkeys, you know,

31:04

sci-fi Batman story. And

31:06

it's been great. It's been the

31:09

best Batman solo book. Certainly I'm reading. It's

31:11

been awesome. It

31:13

doesn't say, it doesn't say how many

31:15

issues I assume it's six, but I

31:18

really like it. I mean, the only false note in it

31:21

is that he reminds us here that he's like a year

31:23

into being Batman and Doug Monkeys, drowning him to be a

31:25

giant beast. I bumped on that myself. I was like, Oh,

31:27

this doesn't need to happen. This could be at any point

31:29

he could, because he would want to

31:31

march. He would, I think he should be

31:34

further along to have sort of been in

31:36

full command of his skills. Cause there's no,

31:38

if he's only a year into it, there's no like,

31:42

I'm not sure what I'm doing. Right.

31:45

And so you're right. It doesn't make sense. No. However,

31:49

that aside, it also, it

31:51

doesn't make sense for issues in like,

31:53

if you'd said at the beginning, I probably would have not

31:55

noticed it or forgotten about it. But at this point, I

31:57

was like, come on, this is full on Batman. He's

32:03

his army against the slavers

32:05

of the universe, strictly this one

32:07

company. It's been really compelling

32:09

and I like

32:11

the little group he's got around him. He's

32:13

got this crazy alien wolf. He's got this

32:16

funny robot. He's got this... Punchbot.

32:19

... somewhat love interest Tamarian character. I love

32:21

it. Who... take

32:24

her back to the Wayne Manner, see how happy she is.

32:26

She's out of there. The first

32:28

cocktail party she's going to go to. But

32:33

just really great Jason

32:35

Aaron badass moments. Like the beginning when he's sort

32:37

of zapped in by the zeta beam and the

32:39

guy had ordered an army. He

32:41

says, where's my army? He says, I'm the army

32:43

and then he beats them all up. I thought

32:45

the introduction of the Thanagarian character was terrific so much

32:47

so I thought that was the final page. Yeah. I

32:50

was like, oh that's a cool final page and then he kept going for another

32:52

12 pages. He's

32:56

just created this awesome little sci-fi... It's

33:00

an old thrills Batman story basically and

33:02

it's really fun. It's a 70s adventure

33:04

romance. It's a fantasy story. This

33:07

could be a Conan story. You

33:09

just change the setting to spaceships and stuff.

33:12

It's great. You've just taken the character and

33:14

be like, we put him here. He

33:16

could have done this exact same story in medieval

33:18

times or in Samaria. This

33:22

is a Conan story where you could totally

33:24

make Batman Conan and make it set in

33:27

the Hiberian age, having the setting slaves free.

33:29

He's in love with... One of the slave

33:31

girls is in love with him. She's also a

33:34

badass. This is essentially what Jason was doing on

33:36

Conan the Barbarian. I

33:38

didn't realize that until you just set it. I didn't

33:40

either until I set it. But I was sort of

33:42

like, what's the feeling I'm going... Because I was like,

33:44

there's something 70s about this. I was like, it's the

33:46

sci-fi. I was like, oh no, it's like Savage sort

33:48

of Conan. It's awesome. None

33:53

of it rings false. I

33:55

want this version of Batman. Batman's

33:57

great because you at no point... Did I

33:59

think he wouldn't do he wouldn't be able

34:02

to do that. You never think about Batman.

34:04

It gives you such You

34:06

know sort of freedom to just

34:09

like throw as much stuff as you can cuz

34:11

he Batman's good figure it out Is he not

34:13

he's only human he's not it doesn't matter He's

34:16

gonna where did he come up? How did he make a

34:19

space Batman suit? Doesn't matter he did I? Kind

34:23

of want him in the end. I don't define

34:25

love. Mm-hmm. Wait, it's just a

34:28

little bit of happiness. Sure But

34:30

but you know like think about This

34:33

isn't that dissimilar from Superman

34:35

on Warworld or battle world No,

34:37

not at all. It's very similar

34:39

actually. Yeah, but this is I

34:41

mean, this is more fun and

34:44

I liked that I'm not I'm not trying to take it

34:46

that I wasn't really gonna miss this is incredibly fun Yeah,

34:48

like this is a great. It'll be a

34:50

great little trade to get to people I remembered like

34:53

reading that first day I don't think we've never talked about this on

34:55

the show because of whatever how it hasn't lined up But

34:57

I read that first issue I

35:00

guess later because I think it came out over the

35:02

holiday and I kind of went in like a little

35:04

like I hope I Like this and I got that

35:07

was fantastic, you know what? It's gotten better every time

35:09

and it hasn't come out all that I guess probably

35:11

come out monthly But these days that feels like forever.

35:13

I was like has this been late But

35:16

you know, this is the fourth issue. It's April that makes sense,

35:19

but it feels like it's been eight weeks Yeah,

35:22

I mean if I had to pick this week I would have had

35:25

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36:57

have feelings about Black Widow and Hawkeye number

36:59

two. Well, first, first, I read

37:02

issue one. I

37:04

think it came out when I was on one of my trips.

37:09

Literal traveling. He wasn't on psychedelics. Yeah,

37:11

I was on another trip. I

37:15

definitely read it. I definitely don't remember what happened in it. And

37:17

so it took me a while to catch up to speed while

37:19

I was reading this. Oh, right. Yeah. Like,

37:21

it was like, this is Stephanie Phillips who I like a lot. It's

37:24

no knock on her. No. I

37:29

just think that the Black

37:32

Widow being symbiotic is the

37:34

dumbest thing I've read in a long time and

37:38

totally necessary for the character. And

37:41

I'm annoyed. I am. I

37:43

am trying desperately to

37:46

give it the benefit of the doubt for all sorts

37:48

of reasons. One is I

37:50

am. I'm a Stephanie Phillips fan. I

37:54

keep giving her work every

37:56

time I read the big two, but it's on

37:58

these weird corners. And so. And it's

38:01

like here, you can do Black Widow and Hawkeye.

38:04

Great, Black Widow's Venom. Okay,

38:06

you know, roll with it. Basically,

38:09

the story is that Hawkeye

38:11

killed somebody, or they think Hawkeye killed

38:13

somebody, and so somebody has to

38:15

go do something about it, and then at the end of

38:18

the last issue, she's like, no, I did kill him. And

38:20

so you're sort of seeing the reveal for that. There's

38:23

good stuff in this. And it just

38:26

kind of clint, you know, he's kind of

38:28

a bumbling James Bond thing at the beginning, and there's

38:30

a really nice theme in this about... But

38:33

he's bumbling on purpose. Yeah, right. Nobody's

38:35

like, archers are

38:37

underestimated. And so that's why, you know, and

38:39

it was nice. I thought it was really

38:42

good. There's good scenes...

38:44

I think it's funny... Go ahead. Sorry,

38:46

go ahead. You're good. There's good

38:49

scenes, like, as a symbiote story, there's a

38:51

couple of interesting things that happen here. Yes.

38:54

I was just being jealous of that. I was like,

38:56

Clint, that was good. I don't want it there, but

38:58

it's being usable. It's not bad.

39:00

I just don't like that part of it.

39:04

Right. It's a couple of funny things. One,

39:08

because of the movies, I was

39:10

like, wait, did they have... Were they romantically... Yes, they

39:12

were. I had to remember that. The comic

39:14

directors were romantically. The movie they were. When they

39:16

were Avengers together. Yeah, in the comics, they were. Right.

39:19

It's Clint and Natasha, both of them. His

39:21

primary exes are like Mockingbird and Black Widow.

39:24

Those are like his two big ones. Yeah.

39:28

I just find it continually hilarious

39:31

that they've basically gone back to giving him

39:33

a full-on purple suit again, everything but the

39:35

mask. They

39:37

just won't do the masks. He's

39:40

got a full-on purple suit now. Full.

39:43

Every part of his body is covered. A purple, up to his

39:45

neck. But they won't go back

39:47

to the mask because of the movies. It's just hilarious. He's

39:50

not even an active character anymore

39:52

in movies. But nope. No

39:54

mask. I did like

39:56

it as a story. There's a hint

39:58

of it. The

40:00

flashbacks were good. That first

40:03

page where they had in the flashbacks, amazing. Coney Island.

40:05

That's the first issue. Like I have it up there

40:07

on my wall. I almost cracked it. I was like

40:09

I'm sort of looking at it. But

40:12

there is also a hint that he's about to

40:14

get venom and I was like motherfucker. I

40:18

don't want that. Yeah,

40:21

I don't know what happened. I don't know why it was happening. What

40:25

I do love is Batman, Superman, World's

40:27

Finest 25, I'm sorry 26, which

40:31

I think I feel like, I don't know

40:33

this, but I feel like Dan Mora had a blast

40:35

drawing. It was certainly. He

40:37

could do a bunch of stuff that super

40:39

artists don't normally get to do with big

40:41

cartoon-y character work and sort of comedic stuff.

40:44

And he really nails it. Yeah,

40:47

this was super fun. I mean

40:49

this has been a hell

40:51

of a run. You know

40:53

what's funny about this book? Is that I

40:56

tend to leave it for a time that I can

40:58

really, sometimes it will be rushing through things and then

41:00

it will be like that's going to take a little

41:02

more thought so I have to make sure I leave

41:04

it for there. And I always think it's a bigger,

41:06

more complicated book than it is. And

41:08

that's because I think the

41:10

pages are so full. It's not hard

41:12

to read. It doesn't take a long time. It's

41:15

not, but I know that there's going to be a lot

41:17

to this. I always think it's going to be meatier than

41:19

it is, but it's fun. And

41:21

neither of those are bad things. It's

41:24

a romp, but it's so jammed

41:26

full of ideas and stuff that

41:28

character designs do this thing are

41:30

just crazy. I

41:33

mean the first page is a full-on splash page

41:35

which you never get any more of. Batman,

41:38

Superman, Robin, Batman, and

41:40

Mixie's Piddleick doing

41:43

the dramatic walk away from an explosion. They're all

41:45

wearing coats. They're all wearing sunglasses. The

41:47

coats are all billowing. And

41:49

I laughed my head off. And they're like, what

41:51

the fuck? I just wanted to look cool. And

41:54

I thought that was funny. And then making Robin

41:56

into a Superman character and giving him a costume that's a

41:59

mix of his clothes. birth to a costume

42:01

from this Bronze Age and some

42:03

other crazy stuff was fun. I thought

42:06

that was great. Like he's like, do you want superpowers?

42:08

And he's like, no, me, me. He

42:11

wanted them immediately. And of course he turns around and

42:13

is like, I do not want this. And actually that

42:15

was a really good device too, where he uses his

42:18

supervision and all of a sudden he

42:20

gets a crushing migraine. Because he hasn't

42:23

trained it. That was really smart. And then

42:27

all the might characters are really fun. And

42:30

it's a comic. So things happen for dramatic purposes.

42:32

It's a story. It

42:34

happens in every medium. But

42:36

they split up in teams as these things go. Batman

42:39

and Miss Mxypidolic and Superman and

42:41

Batmite. Superman and Batmite go to fight the

42:46

magician and an advocate. I was like,

42:48

wait, you said the guy who's vulnerable to magic to fight

42:51

the musician? Not the musician,

42:53

the musician. But that led

42:55

to a fun thing with the suit. It was

42:57

a really fun book. Absolutely.

43:00

That's my big takeaway. This

43:02

is a really fun comic, but this issue

43:04

particular because both Mark Wade

43:06

and Dan Mora got to go really over the

43:08

top in a way that makes sense for the

43:10

story. And that was really fun. I gotta say,

43:12

I think at the end of the day, if

43:14

we're looking at the Eisner's next year and Dan

43:16

Mora and Daniel Acuna are not, and Daniel

43:18

Warren Johnson, I'll give you that too, are

43:21

not, you know, considered

43:23

it's going to be a travesty because I mean,

43:26

the works in these two books are just stupid. Yeah.

43:29

Back to Tom King, Helen of Windhorn number two,

43:31

I actually went back and read number one. You

43:34

had because I know I did,

43:36

but that might, I don't know what's going on.

43:39

But the last couple of weeks I've been having

43:41

trouble remembering. I've been really tired. Having trouble

43:43

remembering those two, those two weeks that took

43:45

off were not restful. So

43:48

I was like, I remember liking it. I don't remember what happened in

43:50

it exactly. So I went back and read them back and read them

43:52

back to back. Enjoyed, enjoyed

43:54

too as well. I did.

43:56

I think it's a great book. And again, this is

43:59

the Tom I couldn't have told you that.

44:03

I know. Not a nine panel grid to be found. No,

44:06

and he did the Supergirl story. I can

44:08

tell this is the same team who did the Supergirl story, but

44:10

not really. The

44:12

mystery element of this is

44:14

gigantic. And we're all like,

44:17

please tell me more. And

44:19

I don't. It's going so slow. They're

44:21

sitting down to dinner with the

44:23

patriarch character, and you're like, all right, here we're

44:25

going to get somewhere. And all he does is

44:27

grumble and eat. And it's just like we are

44:30

feeling what Helen feels. And

44:33

then just the... Because

44:35

we are seeing it through the

44:37

eyes of the governess, you

44:40

see that Helen is both

44:42

a child and an adult at the same time.

44:45

And she's going back and forth.

44:47

And so when she reverts to

44:49

being a drunk person, it's hard

44:51

to watch. And

44:53

then she goes the other way. She's going to

44:55

be herself here. And then she

44:57

becomes vulnerable. And she's like, can

44:59

I sleep here with you? And that's

45:01

very realistic. That's very like

45:04

young adult, older adolescent kind

45:07

of crushing in that way. And then

45:09

just the Bill Kusevili, the

45:14

art direction. You know, like if this was a

45:16

movie, I'd be like, these sets and costumes are

45:18

fantastic. Yeah. It's

45:21

a beautiful book. It's like a

45:23

kind of thing that maybe gets sold on

45:25

Netflix. It has

45:27

that kind of tone, which I like a lot. The

45:31

story is... The

45:33

daughter of basically a guy who

45:35

wrote Conan or John Carter of

45:37

Mars-esque stories. He's died. She's

45:41

living in the giant house, the grandfather's house. And

45:43

there's real monsters outside and nothing makes sense. And

45:45

there's also a framing device in

45:47

the present day. This guy who wrote a book

45:49

about it and interviewed the governess.

45:51

All the narration is her interviews from the

45:54

book. And he's married

45:56

to an early 70s Robert Redford, which

45:58

is nice. Good

46:01

for him. I don't know. I got the cover shirt and I was like, good for

46:03

you. 100%.

46:05

That guy's making the mustache work. Nobody's

46:07

made a mustache work like Robert

46:09

Redford. Ever. No. I

46:12

really like this book. Yeah. This is great. Nightwing

46:15

300 or 113. There's

46:17

only one reason to talk about this book, so get to it.

46:20

Well, we're going to get to that one second, but

46:22

I do want to mention that, again, this made me

46:24

feel something. Not

46:26

surprising, but there's a whole

46:29

thing where Nightwing and

46:31

Tim and Damien are investigating and

46:33

with Barbara's help as Oracle, investigating

46:35

this arms shipment that they

46:38

tried to get into Bloodhaven,

46:40

but his ex and her

46:42

fucking stupid pirates blocked it, which I hate

46:45

that part. I

46:47

like how stupid it is.

46:50

It is stupid in a way that's very

46:52

Bronze Agey. I just wish they had left

46:54

that all alone. It doesn't matter. They're

46:56

trying to figure out who's trying to bring

46:58

in a shit ton of guns into Bloodhaven

47:01

enough to form an army. It turns out

47:03

it's a heart-stealer guy. That's

47:05

the main story. The

47:08

background is it's a big day. Everyone keeps saying it's Dick's

47:10

big day. It turns out it's his birthday, but he's also

47:12

getting honored with the key to the city for

47:15

helping fund shelters and all

47:17

these things with the inheritance of Alfred. I'm

47:21

sorry because Alfred's dead. I

47:26

get it, but I do want to say that

47:28

the reveal here is that Barbara also gets, and

47:30

I was like, why? What did

47:33

she have to do with any of that other than as

47:35

Oracle? She

47:38

helped him figure out what

47:40

to do with it. I felt like it

47:42

was she was on the board. She's not so way underdressed for

47:44

the ceremony. I had noticed that. She

47:46

didn't think she was going to be out there. It

47:49

doesn't matter. She's at the ceremony. I thought she was just being

47:51

avant-garde. You've got to go black tie. It's black

47:53

tie. Yeah. So

47:55

they get honored, and

47:57

then they decide to celebrate by... Everyone

48:00

go down to Marvin George's Pizza, which is the pizza

48:02

place they've been showing throughout this run, which is run

48:05

by Marv Wolfman and George Perez,

48:07

the creators of Nightwing. George is dead. And we've had

48:09

a lot of discussion, although not in a while, about

48:12

pizza. Put a pin in the pizza.

48:16

We get to the, he goes inside, and this

48:18

whole sequence is drawn by Bruno Redondo. The whole

48:20

rest of the book was by Daniel Di Nicole,

48:22

which I, that was okay. My note

48:24

is that I actually really like the art and I thought it was

48:26

great, but this is the wrong book for it. All

48:29

the Robins looked exactly the same. This is the

48:31

wrong issue too, the big three ideas you should

48:33

know. Yes, yes. It really was too

48:35

much of a change. Like Bruno Redondo

48:37

doing a handful of pages I thought

48:39

was poorly planned. At

48:42

least bring back some classics. Scott McDaniel,

48:44

bring back other people who are known for drawing the book.

48:46

I was really surprised. Anyway, he

48:48

goes into the store to thank Marv

48:50

for baking 150 pizzas, or 56 pizzas.

48:55

And they have, while they're talking, behind

48:57

him a framed photo of George, because

49:00

apparently he has passed just as his

49:03

real life avatar has. And

49:05

also Marv Wolfman helped write this scene, by the

49:07

way. Did you notice the pages though?

49:09

Like it doesn't make sense. Actually, you know what? No,

49:12

the pages do not, pages and

49:14

the credits do not correspond to the pages in the

49:16

digital reader, which is why I was having trouble with

49:18

that, just figured that out. So

49:20

the last panel in that scene is, Marv's

49:24

giving a pep talk saying, he

49:26

did a good job, he didn't just spend money, he

49:28

did good with it, et cetera, et cetera. He puts

49:30

his arm on Dick's shoulder, says, I'm so proud

49:33

of everything you've done, Dick, and George was too.

49:35

And that line got me. When

49:37

he said George was too, I literally started

49:40

choking up, because the

49:43

weight of George Perez's death sort of hit me at that moment.

49:46

And this scene, Marv saying it,

49:48

Marv has written the dialogue, and

49:52

I know Dick is not a real person, but it

49:54

just got me in that moment. Can I tell you

49:56

something that, first of all, that completely

49:59

passed me. by Marvin Gorges. Totally.

50:02

Like, I think we mentioned it before, you're saying it

50:04

now and I was like, oh, I get it. Also,

50:07

that's not what I think of Marvin Wolfman as looking

50:09

like. He looks different in my mind because in real

50:11

life, 20 years ago,

50:13

he looked different than this. I don't really look like this. Yes.

50:16

He does look a little bit like this now. I didn't see, I

50:19

didn't see George Perez on the wall. And

50:21

then when you just said that, I got

50:23

a little emotional. Like, I felt it. Yeah, it was, it got

50:25

me. Like, it got

50:28

me. You know, we follow these people professionally

50:31

through their whole lives, right? Reading these stories and

50:34

then they pass on and the characters that are

50:36

created still there and then you're

50:38

in this weird moment where the characters are on the page

50:41

and they're speaking as if they're, it's all wrapped

50:43

up in the whole craziness of being a comic

50:45

fan and a comic creator and all this stuff

50:47

and it just got me in that moment. Let's

50:50

talk about the pizza. Okay, so. I

50:52

thought it was mostly on point. Okay, well, hold on. We... There's

50:55

a couple that aren't, but mostly on point. We

50:58

cut to the big shot outside Marvin George's and

51:00

I have not really been into Danielle

51:03

Di Guolo. Right.

51:06

But then I go, well, Danielle, presumably

51:09

she, has seen pizza before.

51:11

You will notice all

51:14

the pizza is doing what it should. There's a flop

51:16

to it. The edge of the

51:18

pizza is dipping down. The

51:20

pizza physics is good. Somebody's

51:23

taking a bite, this woman at a

51:26

table, she's holding it correctly. Her mouth

51:28

is open. There's a lot of

51:30

holding the pizza over the plate. That's

51:32

the only, not her, the one, whoever's next to

51:35

her. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the

51:37

only one that's a little iffy. He's holding it

51:39

like a book. A little pizza is floating and

51:41

floating in midair, but the

51:44

rest of them, I was pretty impressed. Comparatively.

51:46

So then you go to the Bruno Redondo

51:48

pages. Bruno Redondo, one of the most exciting

51:50

up and coming artists I've seen before. The

51:53

pizza that the kid is eating outside with

51:55

the dot pitch. It's frozen pizza. Yeah, that's not the same pizza.

51:57

And what is that? It's a frozen pizza. It's

52:01

a frozen pizza because it's got no weight.

52:03

It's got like, anyone knows if

52:05

you live in New York city or visited it,

52:09

you got to really support that pizza because it

52:11

doesn't have the structural integrity. That's why the fold. The

52:14

pizza is not going to do that without the fold. And

52:17

it's not the same pizza that's being, it's not the fresh,

52:20

drippy, lovely pizza. Fresh out of

52:22

the oven pizza. That's not what's happening out there. Where it's

52:24

too hot for your mouth, but you go for it anyway.

52:26

And I have burned the roof of my mouth a lot

52:28

of times. A lot

52:30

of times. But I was impressed by

52:32

the Italian artist grasp of pizza

52:35

physics. I shouldn't have been. I

52:37

like how even in the way back, like

52:40

the figures become sort of impressionist,

52:42

but the pizza slices are still

52:44

floating. It's

52:46

nice. It

52:49

was pizza everywhere. There's

52:51

only one, I mean, other than the floating pizza by

52:53

the guy at the table, the

52:55

Dick Grayson himself in the middle of the panel,

52:58

he's talking to Barbara. He's

53:01

going to drop that entire slice. The cheese is going to

53:03

slide off. That cheese is sliding right

53:05

off and that dog is going to be on it. The

53:10

dog is staring at it. That is actually the

53:12

bite wing is ready to pounce on that cheese

53:14

because that's coming right down. I like

53:16

the guy on the right who's double

53:18

fisting and he's

53:20

eating that. He knows what's up. Yeah, but he's going to get,

53:22

he's going to get, Greece is going to run down his arm

53:24

and chin. I mean, you don't know

53:26

if you're going to get a second. You better grab two while you're

53:28

there. That must still be

53:30

a thing. Like when the pizza arrives like a

53:32

college and you've got to try to get two

53:35

slices in your hands

53:37

before A, somebody eats the

53:39

rest of it and B, somebody makes you pay for it. He

53:42

made 56 pizzas, right? So

53:45

eight slices of pie. That's 448 slices. Go

53:48

ahead, do that Matthew. My

53:50

God. You

53:54

should be able to get two. He's just the

53:56

one guy. Well, he's got a crew, but doesn't

53:58

have George. I was very

54:00

happy that I saw that page and I was

54:02

like, oh, mama. All right. Immediately I locked in.

54:05

That's probably why I missed the whole part about

54:07

Marvin George because I was literally just like, all

54:09

right, we need this for the show. No, I

54:11

was doing the right material that didn't

54:13

write. And so then the weird thing was there's

54:15

a backup story about Michael W Conrad and Howard

54:18

Porter, both super fine creators. We

54:20

love Howard Porter. Special place in our hearts

54:22

as a JLA artist. Michael W

54:25

Conrad does really terrific stuff. But

54:27

why are these guys doing Nightwing 300? I

54:30

was in the Scott McDaniel and I realized struck Dix in

54:33

his persona non grata. But listen, I've been fine if he

54:35

came back for this because he's incredibly important to Nightwing and

54:37

I can't discount that. It's a hell of a writer. Uh,

54:40

also like, I do want to say like, as I watched

54:42

this, like, I was like, who's drawn

54:44

this, this Howard Porter. I was like, awesome.

54:48

Like he drew the shit out of this. His

54:51

new style ever since he broke his hand or hurt his hand

54:53

is different than his old style,

54:55

but it's a very dynamic. I mean, so exaggerated.

54:57

It's liquid. Not everybody's cup of tea, but I

55:00

like it a lot. It's like, there's a lot

55:02

of Paul Pope in there now. And just like,

55:04

it's so there's that one shot of

55:07

the train. It's not really

55:09

coming around the corner, but it's like, we're looking at

55:11

it with a super wide angle lens at

55:14

416. By the way, I read

55:16

that. So there's a timer in the top,

55:18

uh, corner of this. And what

55:21

it is doing is it's counting down. So each page, you

55:23

see how much time is passed because it's a bomb timer.

55:25

Right. My first time through

55:27

I was maybe four pages in, I thought it was

55:29

the time. I was like, okay, we're going backwards. You're

55:31

doing that. And

55:34

they got to the bomb page. Oh,

55:36

so I went back and there's no dialogue and

55:39

I read it correctly, but that's my fault.

55:41

That's not there. It was just bizarre. Other

55:43

than Tom Taylor, Bruno Rondato,

55:45

Marvel Wolfman, you know, everyone else was like,

55:47

okay, they're, they're good creators, but nothing to

55:49

do with Nightwing's history, really. It's

55:52

just weird. Michael W Conrad wrote the son of

55:54

the demon, right? No,

55:56

no, no, no. Who

55:59

wrote that? No, son of the demon

56:04

That was uh Not

56:06

Mike W bar. Oh, well you can see why I would

56:09

have thought that there's a W I

56:11

mean, I'm sure Mike W Conrad is super psyched

56:13

to be confused for Mike W bar sure, but

56:16

There's a long time ago Those

56:19

are the books we had time to talk about only I say that

56:21

we wanted to talk about but I could have talked about Superman I

56:23

could have talked about other books it was It

56:26

was a big good week of comics But

56:29

let's talk about the patron pick every patron at patreon.com/my

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56:47

and was do we have a boom book

56:49

last week too or the week

56:51

before possibly possibly

56:53

I Don't want this to

56:55

be a spoiler for the whole thing, but I

56:57

read this early on And

57:00

so when I was putting the script together and I was the

57:02

thing I was like, well I don't remember a

57:04

single thing about it and I had to

57:06

like open it up and look through it again And then just

57:08

now I was like, I don't remember stick I couldn't I couldn't

57:10

have told you what it is. In fact, like I kind of

57:12

remember like oh, it's in Antarctica

57:15

and then I was like, I have no idea what the

57:17

story was. Like I I completely forgot it it

57:21

It's in it's in Canada. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's

57:23

a bat Baffin Island, Canada So

57:26

there's a woman who is a photographer

57:28

and she's hired by this Is

57:31

it a magazine? She's

57:34

one of those people like from the BBC

57:36

documentaries and they train a camera I'm trying

57:38

to capture something in nature that no one

57:41

ever is that they'll have this amazing footage

57:43

of these rare birds hatching So that's the

57:45

deal in this cold hell wasteland and she's

57:47

trying to get footage of these rare

57:49

birds, right? She just has this camera on

57:51

this mountain Waiting for

57:53

whatever animal it was. I don't know what it

57:56

was. It was birds baby birds being hatched Is

57:59

that what? it is? I think so. All right,

58:02

it doesn't matter. Because in

58:04

waiting for it, she sees hatchlings, some

58:06

people, they, the

58:09

people, there's an

58:11

argument and they're climbing the mountain

58:13

and then there's a whole fight and, and so she may

58:17

have witnessed a crime. Meanwhile,

58:21

she encounters a polar bear and does not get

58:23

torn to shreds. Toss him down. Unbelievable part of

58:25

the story. Yeah, I'm sure that

58:27

happens all the time with polar bears. They're totally reasonable. Um,

58:32

I didn't, I didn't, I didn't dislike this. I liked

58:34

it. It was very much a cold open. I don't

58:37

really know what the story is. I don't know what the stakes

58:39

are. Stakes. I think

58:42

I don't. Yeah. I

58:44

didn't dislike it. I did like it. Especially Nicole is,

58:46

I thought it was really good. The concept is good. The

58:48

setup is good. Like, like

58:51

the idea of like, okay, so what if you have one of these

58:53

nature photographers? What if all they're out they

58:55

see some shit that they're not supposed to. Um,

58:59

I think that's good. Yeah. I

59:02

think the structure had some problems and the

59:04

dissemination of information had some problems. I think

59:06

it could have been smoother because there's a

59:08

bit where she's watching and then she sees

59:10

a hunter.

59:13

She's like, Oh, there's that hunter.

59:16

What's he doing? And

59:18

then that seems to be

59:20

over. And then later she

59:22

sees the two people and those

59:24

things don't seem related. And maybe

59:26

they should be. And maybe we don't know, but

59:29

I thought it was jarring. Uh, in

59:31

a way, I mean, we, we really have to know

59:33

what happens later, but I feel like it was like,

59:35

have one thing happen. Or if you're

59:37

going to have two, like, I feel like you have to have three.

59:39

I don't know. You have to have several things. Yeah. Two is weird. We

59:41

feel like a rule of threes needed to come into play. Yeah. It

59:44

also felt like if you're going to

59:46

show like the mundanity of this and how she

59:48

keeps seeing things like take away the pages of

59:50

the polar bear and stuff and just show her

59:52

like you need to do it going through this

59:55

routine of seeing things over and over until something

59:57

happens. Yeah. That jars you out of the reputation.

1:00:00

Visually in a comic book. There's lots of

1:00:02

ways to do that easily and Yeah,

1:00:05

one page. I mean there were a couple like you

1:00:07

just do that and they do do it But not

1:00:09

enough in the beginning you're right to set that sort

1:00:12

of that Mundanity is that the right

1:00:14

way to say it? There's not mundane this that sounds

1:00:16

good. It seems yeah No, you know, I think you're

1:00:18

right I think that needs to be selling these later

1:00:20

they do it when she's watching the mountain you see

1:00:22

that same Still frame that you get through the the

1:00:24

camera and I think that works really well and when

1:00:26

you see the men Climbing

1:00:29

and having the argument It's

1:00:31

too many pages before you get to that the whole like almost

1:00:33

that whole story could have been told like that That would have

1:00:35

been really cool The

1:00:38

page. Yeah where they fight yeah In

1:00:41

the end there's a whole thing where She

1:00:43

goes out to investigate because they face fallen and

1:00:45

then that we see her through the lens of

1:00:47

a sniper rifle And someone's got a rifle trip

1:00:49

because like it does a lot here There's

1:00:52

a lot of possibility, but I said I

1:00:54

didn't finish it going wow. What's gonna happen

1:00:56

next? Interesting. Yeah,

1:00:59

I mean like it's like, okay, you're You're

1:01:02

not quite good enough yet. It's not even like but

1:01:04

it's just you know raw But

1:01:06

not at all like a like a like a

1:01:09

promising rookie, you know trying to figure

1:01:11

out the baby steps That

1:01:14

said like I said, I really didn't remember what happened

1:01:16

at all until I went back through it I also

1:01:18

am having a trouble with the title blow away. I

1:01:20

really feel like it should be blown and It's

1:01:23

almost like a command what should I do now

1:01:25

blow away, you know Right.

1:01:29

I don't know like the words feel weird to me. I Think

1:01:33

I maybe like it could like the script

1:01:36

and the and the layouts could have used

1:01:38

another path So

1:01:42

Panchak Thompson is Canadian

1:01:45

writers done it wrote Kesar from

1:01:47

Marvel the Marvelous X-Men the dregs

1:01:50

Some other books some TV stuff I

1:01:55

think I think also Batman brave the bold for DC.

1:01:57

I just think on skinwalker We

1:02:00

read that for boom. Well,

1:02:02

was it? Cemetery kids don't die.

1:02:05

Yeah. Anyway, I just thought

1:02:07

that the information here wasn't conveyed as

1:02:09

interestingly as it could have. But again, I'm

1:02:11

not hating on the book. I

1:02:14

thought it was interesting. I

1:02:16

will probably check

1:02:18

out the second issue. This is spoilers

1:02:20

for sticking with

1:02:22

it. But I'm probably gonna check it out depending on

1:02:24

the weekend if I can remember doing so. It was

1:02:26

imperfect, but had qualities and some

1:02:28

promise. Yes. I

1:02:31

think a lot's gonna ride the second issue and what's revealed in it. Because

1:02:35

right now I'm waiting to know what any of it

1:02:37

is or why. And I'll tell you right now, if

1:02:39

it's some supernatural shit, I'm out. I

1:02:42

mean it. If

1:02:44

there's a vampire or the spirit

1:02:46

of ice, I'm out. This

1:02:51

woman, this photographer, Josh, she's an ice totem.

1:02:54

Her family have all been ice totems. Going

1:02:56

back centuries. I want her to look. She's

1:02:59

all been drawn to this place to become ice defenders of the night. I

1:03:01

want her to look less pretty. Not

1:03:03

that she needs to be an unattractive photographer. No,

1:03:05

no, no, no. No, no, no, no. She's living

1:03:07

in the Arctic by herself. It's

1:03:10

Canada. She's living in the Arctic by herself. She

1:03:12

should look pretty like, like nobody.

1:03:16

Canada has moisturizer. If you're trying to show

1:03:18

that mundanity. She's by herself. She has no,

1:03:20

like, I wanted to look a little bit

1:03:23

like she's

1:03:25

been working so hard on this and this is all that she's doing.

1:03:28

Again, you want to contribute to that solitude,

1:03:30

that mundane-ness. She almost

1:03:33

like picking up on, like, hey,

1:03:35

there's some people climbing. That should be

1:03:37

a bigger deal. This

1:03:40

is show business, not show editing. I'm editing the shit out

1:03:42

of this. And it's not like, here's what I would've done,

1:03:44

but if I was an editor, if I was a person

1:03:47

making notes on the script. Yeah, so where's kind of review?

1:03:49

Well, we both have done it. We both

1:03:51

have done it. I'm not saying it's just you. But that

1:03:53

is also in the exploration trying to figure out what didn't

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Three. I

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get it. No, it's not a two and a half book. We've had two and

1:04:16

a half books. This is not a two and a half book. Yeah.

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So there you go. patreon.com/iFanboy. Every

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patron power, Josh. All right, Jeff

1:04:40

Shea has

1:04:42

the ability at any point to

1:04:44

disguise himself by transforming into

1:04:47

any sort of processed

1:04:49

food packaging that he

1:04:51

can decide on or wants to do.

1:04:53

So, go ahead. Hold on, just

1:04:56

the packaging? It looks as if it's the real

1:04:58

thing. In fact, it's not, you

1:05:00

can't, okay, like he can't be.

1:05:03

So he can turn himself into like a honey baked ham.

1:05:05

Yes, but it wouldn't be the food itself. It has to

1:05:08

be in the package. Now,

1:05:10

if you were to pick up that package, listen

1:05:12

though, here's the thing. If you were

1:05:14

to pick up that package. You don't need them. Well,

1:05:16

please, you can pick up

1:05:18

the package, you can unwrap it, all the stuff in there would

1:05:20

be what was in the real package. If it's rice-a-roni, the

1:05:23

rice in the seasoning package is gonna

1:05:25

fall out. However, he

1:05:28

must not be eaten because that will

1:05:30

be the end of him. So

1:05:32

you can use this to hide. Does he taste delicious?

1:05:34

He's gonna be food. He's

1:05:37

gonna be what the food is. So if

1:05:39

he's disguising himself, it has to be in such

1:05:42

a way that he's pretty sure he's not gonna

1:05:44

get eaten because then he's either gonna die or

1:05:46

he's gonna have to reveal himself and move back

1:05:48

in. If he gets eaten at all, that's it.

1:05:51

So that's a key. That has to do with

1:05:53

what he's choosing. If

1:05:55

he's trying to hide in a college dorm

1:05:57

room at 1 a.m. and everybody comes home.

1:06:00

you better not turn yourself into a host of cupcakes. Or

1:06:04

anything really. Pretty much, but something really like,

1:06:07

oh, he doesn't wanna be that. He's gonna

1:06:09

wanna be like, Pizza. Boiled

1:06:13

quinoa. He doesn't want farro.

1:06:15

So it's not just, it's

1:06:18

not processed, it's not just

1:06:21

a meat thing, it's any food. Yeah,

1:06:23

yeah, yeah. Any processed food, packaged

1:06:25

snacks. Packaged snacks. Pretty much everything

1:06:28

in the supermarket that isn't in

1:06:30

the deli aisle or the produce

1:06:33

section. He's

1:06:35

still conscious when he is a Twinkie?

1:06:38

And full sensory, like he

1:06:40

can see and hear what's going

1:06:42

on. Excellent surveillance, unless someone decides

1:06:45

to eat him. Does

1:06:47

he smell how delicious he smells? Ooh,

1:06:50

trouble. What happens if he takes

1:06:52

just a little nibble out of himself? Does he have a mouth?

1:06:55

No, he's taco shells. So

1:06:58

he's not like the hamburger in, whoops,

1:07:02

in Peter and Ted? He's

1:07:05

not the Van Halen hamburger? He's

1:07:08

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I think Fargo. He'll

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like Fargo. There's no chance he won't. He'll like

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Friday Night Lights, but he won't admit it so

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Ian McKellen didn't know that he

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this is the future of entertainment Josh don't knock it. Well

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until they realize that nobody made anything for them

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