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pick of the week number nine hundred twenty brought

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to you by iFanboy listeners

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like you with the ears.

2:30

Hey this is Josh Flanagan, I

2:32

am here thankfully with my co-host

2:34

Conrico Patrick. Hello

2:41

Josh. Alright, let's get on with this.

2:45

I'm not in the mood. Okay, that's

2:48

great. I'm looking forward

2:50

to it then. I was

2:52

gonna do like a whole bit about,

2:54

cause I'm very tired, I didn't get enough sleep

2:56

and I was gonna do a whole bit about

2:58

being cranky. And then just starting to do the

3:00

show has woken me up. Sure. And

3:03

I was like, I'll be crabby. And then I was like, nope, I'm

3:05

being cheerful. And orphan rush. It

3:07

is, it is. It's like sense memory. It's like one

3:09

of the actual positive sense memories that happened in my

3:11

life. Most of

3:14

them just rush cortisol straight

3:16

into my bloodstream. Oh boy. This

3:19

is pick of the week number 926. Every

3:21

week one of us picks a book they like from the book

3:25

they like best from their stuff. Stack of comics. You hear

3:27

me down shift there. I was like, you're gonna have to

3:29

do this at 80%. We call that

3:31

the pick of the week. We will talk about that book.

3:33

We will talk about other books from the week. There's a

3:35

patron pick. There's listener mail. I mean, if you're not having

3:37

fun by now, if you're like already not into the vibe,

3:40

and I hate using the word vibe, but it is correct

3:42

in this instance, you're not gonna like the rest of it

3:44

is my guess. Maybe more. I don't know. There

3:46

will absolutely be spoilers. I was thinking about it as I was reading this

3:48

week and I was like, we're gonna have to talk about this. So

3:51

there's no way around it. There's like dour

3:53

vibe fetishists who listen, who

3:55

really just like the shows when the vibe is low. I

3:58

don't think it ever is. It's always,

4:00

what it is, it's a very self-aware vibe.

4:04

You know what I mean? Like no one's like, oh

4:06

man, there's such downers. It's been a while since we've

4:08

been cranky. Yeah. I mean, I think we're fun cranks.

4:11

You know? I think so. Did

4:15

you just do a mental checklist of everyone in your life?

4:19

I did. I like it. I

4:21

think I'm the funnest version of my

4:24

crankiness on this show. How's that? That

4:26

sounds fair. There's a much less fun

4:28

crankiness and it existed this morning

4:30

when my son ate two bites of

4:32

his breakfast and then was on the

4:34

toilet until I saw the bus coming

4:36

up the road. And I was like,

4:38

get up. That

4:42

was the least fun version of my crankiness.

4:45

Let's leave that energy to the side today. Yeah. I'm going

4:48

to have to apologize to him when he comes home. Like,

4:50

I'm sorry. I didn't sleep enough, dude. He's

4:52

like, I've heard your fall issues before. I know.

4:55

He doesn't say it, but he looks at me

4:57

with it. I know he knows it. You had

4:59

to pick. It's the subtext. Yeah. I had to

5:01

pick. It was a strange week because DC

5:04

publishes on Tuesdays. And

5:07

so for DC, it was the

5:09

fifth week, but no one else, which is very

5:11

strange, right? Like you think everyone's on the same

5:14

page, but for DC, it was the fifth week.

5:16

So they didn't really put out any normal books.

5:18

It was all like annuals and specials. It's very

5:20

interesting. You had a sort of a

5:22

regular, but lightish Marvel week. The indie

5:24

stuff was actually rather light for me, but

5:27

DC was not existed. So I had like only like 10

5:29

or 11 books. I was reading a couple of extras, but

5:31

at the end of it, as Josh well knows, cause I

5:33

wouldn't stop texting about it. I had no pick of the

5:35

week. I had nothing. I didn't know what to do. I

5:38

read a couple of extra books. Those didn't do anything for

5:40

me. And I was really

5:42

concerned, but you know, this is the gig,

5:44

right? This is the podcasting game. We got

5:46

into it and we know we have to

5:48

do. So the pick league is X-Men 34

5:50

by Jerry Duggan, Joshua Casara, Romulo Ferriardo Jr.

5:52

and Clayton Cowles. And it ends up

5:54

because it was the book that I

5:57

enjoyed the most. It was the most fun.

6:00

and it had some emotional resonance you know

6:02

as we're coming to the end of this

6:05

crack or you and i have been enjoying

6:07

it you've been in and out i've been

6:09

there the whole time at least on the

6:12

main books. I'm not i've been out i've

6:14

been reading the books i've been reading forever

6:16

you were reading consistently for the last three

6:18

or four years i'm sorry i was i

6:20

was conflating krikko arrow with hellfire gala. Let's

6:22

all correct right well that's what i got

6:24

everything before that whatever you're right we're coming

6:26

near the clothes and. You know

6:28

the final battle of orca the organization that

6:30

basically turned the whole world against the mutants

6:33

and exiled them from the planet with partial

6:35

help of professor xavier that's what this issue

6:37

is all about it is about what happens

6:39

when. The kids realize they

6:42

gotta kill the father because the father

6:44

has lost his way

6:46

and so. The

6:49

mutants that didn't leave the planet the resistance force

6:51

at least some of them i've realized that

6:54

professor xavier's gotta die and it's gonna fall

6:56

to kitty pride. Or katherine

6:58

pride in her shadow cat identity is the

7:00

only one willing to do the deed i

7:02

thought that was an interesting sort of. Book

7:05

into you know she starts off decades

7:07

ago joins the team as a teenager she's

7:09

sort of the fun mascot character and you

7:11

know what does everyone know her for at

7:13

least everyone in comics and non-explan readers is

7:15

the you know press xavier is a jerk.

7:19

The teenage reaction to that because he's the

7:21

father figure i thought having her be the

7:23

one that's like i've gotta do it is

7:25

sort of an interesting thematic pairing to that

7:27

moment you know of all the people. The

7:29

one who famously called him a jerk is the one that says

7:31

he's gonna have to kill him who knows if it's actually gonna

7:34

happen or not. I thought you

7:36

know the moment towards the end where

7:38

she's like thinking she's all alone in

7:40

this mission and then there's an off

7:42

panel dialogue below and return the page

7:44

and it's Wolverine logan standing half shadow

7:46

the alia first of all the terrific

7:48

panel i'll help you i was

7:50

a rule it was a really nice

7:52

emotional moment for the two of them because

7:54

they have a long standing relationship. I

7:57

thought that was really balanced very well

7:59

again. against more comedic

8:01

elements of Kamala Khan and

8:04

Sink and the other Wolverine fighting Modok,

8:07

which I thought was funny

8:09

and slapsticky. So it was an interesting tonal

8:11

issue where it was funny, but it was

8:13

also sort of emotionally heavy. And I thought

8:15

that it was one of the things that

8:17

Jerry Duggan does really well. I thought this

8:19

was a terrific issue. I thought

8:21

that the bit where Logan shows

8:23

up and she's having a little

8:25

crisis of consciousness. I don't

8:27

know who Caliban is. I recognize the name,

8:29

but I don't know anything about it. I

8:31

like that through, what is this, three pages,

8:33

four pages. She basically goes through

8:35

the mental checklist of what

8:38

it meant for her to be, I'm

8:40

gonna say kitty versus

8:42

Shadowcat. And she

8:44

says, well, I had to shut this off. I

8:48

don't know what the words were, but it was I have to shut

8:50

this off so that I can do this job and I thought I

8:52

could. And it was just like

8:55

this little, because the whole time you're kind of

8:57

watching her, she goes feral more or less. And

9:00

it's weird because real people don't do that,

9:02

really. It's a thing you can

9:04

say in a comic book and they're kind of just addressing

9:06

it here, which I kind of liked, which means that it's

9:08

very conscious and obviously if you can do that, you're a

9:10

bit of a psychopath. Which really

9:13

actually goes a long way to sort of

9:15

explain the kind of special relationship, quote unquote,

9:17

that she has with Wolverine. Because

9:19

he's like that, because he is somewhat

9:21

animalistic. And so maybe that's a more natural

9:23

version of the word psychopath. Either way, I

9:26

like when he comes in, I

9:28

like that you sort of see her humanity, her

9:30

real character a little bit, because we haven't

9:32

for a while. It was just like, let's

9:34

make this fun ninja assassin Kitty Pride for

9:37

a while. Which from a realistic personality standpoint,

9:39

doesn't really make a lot of sense, but

9:41

it's awful good in an action series. You

9:43

know, she's a little amnesian. She turns it

9:45

off and kills some stuff. She's almost a

9:47

cipher because for a while, we

9:50

had ship captain Kitty Pride. And then

9:52

previous to that years before, we had

9:54

school administrator Kitty Pride. It's

9:56

whatever role they need, Kitty Pride fills

9:58

it. But the thing is. her character is

10:00

strong enough that you kind of buy it. You're like, okay, I

10:02

get it. You know, she's that. Pointing it

10:04

out like that, though, really makes me start. I

10:06

mean, it's, you know, I get into it, but

10:08

you know, it's a bunch of dudes and they're

10:10

like, we need a person to do this. And

10:13

like, they take this really well established and,

10:16

you know, beloved character. And

10:18

they're just like, well, set her in this role.

10:20

And I was like, wow, it's actually, there's something

10:22

going on there I can't quite figure out. It's

10:24

a lot of, there's a lot of nascent psychotherapy

10:26

in the middle of these comic books. And I

10:28

think it's what keeps people going back to it.

10:30

I thought that and also just finally as

10:33

a final page, the

10:35

Wolverine standing there and he took her sword

10:37

when he takes her sword that to me

10:39

was like, I'll take care of this. Don't

10:41

you know, you don't have to deal with

10:43

it. But I really like that as a

10:45

metaphorical and literal handoff of I've got this

10:47

role back now. I haven't been here for

10:50

some reason the whole time. Well,

10:53

there's the other Wolverine. I was in this

10:55

alley. I actually, I'll tell you, I like

10:57

the other Wolverine. Laura's a great character. She's

11:01

also called Wolverine just like it's stupid. But

11:03

it's fine because she actually is. She's

11:05

filling in the role of Wolverine before all

11:07

of that baggage and shit was placed on

11:09

him. And so she just

11:11

like point me at the things to kill and

11:13

she can just be that I love her. I

11:15

think she's a great character. Yeah, I agree entirely,

11:17

which I kind of realized later, I think it's

11:19

probably after Avengers Academy and whatever, but she shows

11:22

up and people have a lot of fun writing

11:24

her and she's pretty great. And because I can

11:26

tell it's her and not Logan, so I don't

11:28

really get like confused or anything sometimes if they're

11:30

both look the same. Anyway, and then

11:32

finally, I sort of that last page though, the

11:34

art is beautiful for one day, rain,

11:36

lightning, neon signs, he's backlit. It's

11:39

a very stationary pose. And it's

11:41

like right in the middle of

11:43

the page. And I like his

11:45

like his short, you know, thick torso. Well,

11:47

he's finally more squat here, right? Like look at

11:50

if you look at two pages, previous kitty and

11:52

Logan are talking in a profile shot and they're

11:54

the same height. Yeah, she's not portrayed as someone

11:56

who's super tall. So you know, he was short

11:59

guy and took you thousands of the movies and

12:01

they made them taller and more handsome. And then

12:03

this version, at least in this issue, he looks

12:05

slightly more like the old Logan. And then

12:07

finally, as we go in that page, it's

12:09

a one panel page, it's a splash page,

12:12

but the way that the lettering

12:15

and all of like the lightning, it leads

12:17

you from the top left to the bottom

12:19

right. And if you see there's actually sequential

12:21

storytelling in here in one panel, whatever you

12:23

need, stand down. I've got the only help

12:25

he needs, claw snicked right here. Like it,

12:28

it's really cool. Like they made a

12:30

single panel page into a bit of storytelling. It's

12:32

beautiful. Really. I mean, this is like the kind

12:34

of thing I would have never known this, you

12:36

know, five years, 10, 10 years ago, but

12:38

now I'm, I'm seeing it. I don't even know if they

12:40

intended it, but you know, it's that sort of skill. It's

12:42

gotta be liquid. I mean, look what this stinks is. I

12:44

mean, realize they put it next to the claws, but it's

12:47

in between him and the dialogue blooms. You have to read

12:49

the snake first. But like who decided

12:51

to put that last word

12:53

balloon, you know what I mean? Like where those things

12:56

fall is somewhere in the design. And I assume, you

12:58

know, like whoever laid out the page, you know, and

13:00

then got with a letter and like, it should go

13:02

like this. It could have been in the script. It's

13:04

great that it happened. This is my point. Really. This

13:07

page was probably my favorite page of the week.

13:09

Second page, favorite page of the week, actually. It

13:11

was good. And I also really liked the panel.

13:13

So on page 21, where you

13:15

turn the page and you see that is Logan in the

13:18

alley. He's sort of in a triangle shadow

13:20

and you know, there's the lights

13:22

behind him. I think he's just a very good

13:24

drawing. Joshua Casara is a good comic artist. Very

13:26

solid, but there are some terrific panels in here,

13:29

especially the comedic ones with Kamala Khan. There's the

13:31

one where she's saved the woman in the car

13:33

and punches the two guys out the windows with

13:35

her Mr. Fantastic powers. That was funny. And then

13:37

there's one later on where she's crowdy chopping, modoc

13:40

in the face in the background of the

13:42

panel. There's some very good work in this

13:44

issue, particularly. And I think that he's doing

13:46

his research. He's, you know,

13:48

looking at great art and incorporating it and putting

13:50

it in here. This is top quality storytelling and

13:52

drawings. It's a beautiful comic book. What I thought

13:54

was interesting is, and they sort of call it

13:56

out here. They actually don't sort of, they do

13:58

call it out where. Sink

14:01

and X-23, Laura Wolverine, who

14:03

had that relationship in the

14:05

other version of them in

14:07

that when they were trapped. I don't know if you read

14:10

that issue or not. Nope. She's in the background comedically chopping

14:12

Morak in the face and he's like, we need

14:14

to protect her. We need her to help us

14:16

keep us in the light. And she's such a

14:19

not X-Men character. Come on, Con.

14:21

Her vibe, god damn it. Her whole

14:23

aesthetic, her whole personality is not an

14:25

X-Men character. She's not dour. She's not

14:27

over serious. She's the opposite of the

14:29

X-Men. She's kiddie pride before she got

14:31

all dark. Right. And I think in

14:33

that sense, it makes her the perfect

14:35

addition to the X-Men because she's such

14:37

a counterpoint to constantly at the edge

14:39

of disaster. It's just a really smart

14:41

addition. For whatever dumb corporate reasons

14:44

they added her, it doesn't matter. Their execution of

14:46

it really adds an interesting element to everything. So

14:48

I'm enjoying it. And that's the game. If you're

14:50

the writers and the editors is like, all right,

14:52

we have to do this. Let's make it work.

14:54

And I think A, I think a really good,

14:57

it's smart that Duggan put that in there. Yeah.

14:59

And then B, that you picked up on it

15:01

exactly. I think that illustrates it really well. Before

15:03

we get going, I don't know. I hate, it

15:05

has to happen. I think I'm supposed to hate

15:07

it, but Charles Xavier as

15:09

the like the big bad. Yeah. It's just,

15:11

oh god it bothers me. It's just, it's

15:14

just, you know, at the end

15:16

of it, like if it all stems from him, I'm,

15:18

I don't know why. I think it's because they're superhero

15:20

fantasies, really. And so you don't want to see the

15:23

good guy turn into the bad guy and you don't

15:25

mind going the other way, taking Magneto from being the

15:27

big bad guy to sort of being the sort of

15:29

ambiguous good guy. That kind of works. Like you want,

15:31

because you want redemption, but watching like

15:33

the father fall, like it's very hard to

15:36

add those pieces up. But then again, narratively

15:38

kill your babies, torture the people in there. Like

15:41

it all makes sense, but it really bothers me,

15:43

but it's supposed to. Yeah. I

15:45

don't even care about the character that

15:47

bothers me. So this week we also

15:49

had the start of a new, I

15:51

guess event blood hunt. Number one from

15:53

Jed McKay, Pepe La Raz blood hunt

15:55

arriving with zero fanfare. I mean,

15:58

I would. wouldn't

16:00

call it a full fledged event.

16:02

It's more like a mini Jed

16:04

McKay event where all the

16:06

characters he is currently writing or has written

16:08

in the past, although strangely I was, I was

16:10

sure we'd see Black Cat in here. He's talking.

16:13

Not her, but like the Avengers who's currently writing

16:15

and the characters from Moon Knight, which is currently

16:18

writing. And then also Dr. Strange and Cleo who

16:20

he wrote before or that

16:22

book's over, right? No, it's still happening.

16:24

It's still happening. It's like all the books

16:26

he's currently writing are coming together in this

16:28

mini Jed McKay event. Brief aside. This

16:31

is a thing now. A person writes a

16:33

bunch of different books and they slowly start

16:36

to cross pollinate and then there's a thing

16:38

with her altogether. I think Bendis was maybe

16:40

the first person that I remember doing that.

16:43

And then it's happened a few other times. Does

16:45

this go further back in history than that? No,

16:48

I can't think of. I feel like it's

16:50

definitely like a more modern thing, which is

16:52

kind of a really interesting sort of author

16:55

power move. Like if you're in this

16:57

corporate company and you're writing these different books and

16:59

sort of be able to entangle them all, like

17:01

I did these, all these characters, I'd like to

17:04

do an event based around the characters that I've

17:06

been writing solely and they're like, go for it.

17:08

And I kind of respect that. Yeah. So I

17:10

would call this more of a crossover than an

17:12

event. Crossover events are like squares and rhombuses. You

17:14

know, like what is a crossover? What

17:16

is an event? This is just seems like more of a

17:18

crossover of a bunch of his books than it is an

17:20

event. It doesn't matter whatever you want to call it. I

17:22

was mostly interested because of, I mean,

17:24

I like to have my cake quite a bit, but

17:26

I love heavy LaRaz. So I was interested in that

17:29

sense. I wasn't overly interested in the vampire element of

17:31

it, partially because I feel like we just did this.

17:33

We talked about this before, you know, the Avengers had

17:35

a whole vampire storyline. The vampires have been the background

17:38

villains in the moon knight book forever. Just, it's

17:40

just not for me overly compelling, but I'm reading. It's

17:42

only a five issue story, at least in the main

17:44

books. So I'll probably read the whole thing. This

17:47

is fine. Most of the books over this week were

17:49

fine and this wasn't fine. So things what I

17:51

liked or things that I didn't like, but it

17:53

looked really good. And that was probably the best

17:55

thing I could say about it. I would say

17:57

that my instinct when I hear like. This

18:00

is a vampire thing is to go s I

18:02

do you have to. Differentiate.

18:04

Between Vertigo Vampires yes, and Marvel Vampires, Red

18:06

Marbles, Empires aren't really about the whole vampire

18:09

thing as much as they're just another sort

18:11

of some family and Marvel this of a

18:13

suburb or another. yelling or yeah so wasn't

18:16

really looking forward to a present. I'm I'm

18:18

reading more. Almost all these Jed Mckay books

18:20

are not ring Moon Knight but I get

18:22

it like I know. Hunters Moon is the

18:25

guy now. Do. You do all? how

18:27

know all? How's this the other out to

18:29

be? kind of to weird names to say

18:31

seven just putting towards together they're out of

18:33

single word names and as I was reading

18:35

it I was very impressed with the structure,

18:38

the set up, the building blocks of those

18:40

wire really taken all of your. Things.

18:42

In the different books and I'm I'm wondering like how

18:44

much of those plan and how much of that sort

18:46

of came up there were going along and was beautiful

18:49

and I was actually I was pretty compelling as I

18:51

read Blade also in this sort of I think this

18:53

is related to that. By. So that that's a

18:55

spoiler will have to talk about. Yeah, So.

18:57

The big Twist on the final page here's a

18:59

Blade is the bad guy in charge of developers.

19:01

He's turned se as the first issue twist. He

19:04

took on all of Dracula powers in the mini

19:06

series. He was just in and so like he

19:08

sort of tapped into the good and bad abv

19:10

enough power to defeat that big bad. Do you

19:12

think that when he was sitting at the internet

19:15

series contemplating the the universe, he was her front

19:17

of playing Turning Back And it's it's interests as

19:19

see where it goes. I mean I think about

19:21

halfway through that I was ago, he's a bad

19:24

guy. Yeah, if I hadn't read that other series

19:26

I wouldn't have thought. That okay like I would

19:28

have thought when they they you know than the transport

19:30

of the truck in there than there was on track

19:32

of when he wanted to strangest places like move and

19:34

I was us like released awareness glasses those from the

19:37

mid nineties. Your dress exactly like

19:39

Wesley Snipes was in Ninety Six or of them

19:41

really horrible nineties. sunlight as animal may cause, graduated

19:43

photos and I wish them could. I could burn

19:45

them. Me too. But same way, Blade owns it.

19:47

It's true. I mean, like it's his thing, since

19:49

a good way for hims. Here's the things that

19:51

I didn't love: The. Set up here is

19:53

basically exactly the same as he Ventures movie. In.

19:57

Some. people show up the we've never heard of

19:59

before And they take the Avengers apart

20:01

one by one. He created like

20:03

five new vampire Delta Force characters.

20:05

I hated the design of

20:07

those characters so much. I thought they were

20:09

the characters from the Avengers arc

20:11

that started off his book. Mm-hmm. No.

20:15

Because I feel like ever since that Avengers movie, the second

20:17

one or the third one, which one had the

20:19

bad guys that showed up? Ebony Maw, that

20:21

one, that one. I feel like ever since

20:23

those characters, all of their villains look and

20:25

recall those characters. And those are all from

20:27

Hickman's Avengers run. That's what I'm saying. All

20:30

of the things that were that aesthetic. That were designed as aesthetic. There's

20:33

nothing about them that's compelling visually or

20:36

memorable visually. So I don't remember who they are.

20:38

And so these guys show up and say, wait,

20:40

are these the guys from that stupid arc that

20:42

opened Avengers up? And I'm like, I guess not.

20:44

But they look the same. It's just this. It's

20:46

not one of my favorite parts of Jed McKay's

20:48

over is this. He's done this a couple of

20:51

times. And they're very like here's some people who

20:53

are designed exactly to take out the people who

20:55

are on the Avengers team at the moment. You

20:57

know who's memorable? Electro. You remember

20:59

him? He shows up. You know

21:01

exactly who he is. These people all look vaguely

21:04

sort of Roman gods and

21:07

like they all remind me of Sandman character.

21:10

Yeah. Like they're like different versions

21:12

of the endless is sort of what those actually

21:14

all go back to. Anyway, that worked.

21:16

They picked apart the Avengers bit by bit. Exact same

21:19

thing that happened in the Avengers run. But

21:21

it's well done. I wasn't like, oh, this sucks. But I

21:23

recognize the pattern. And I don't want to recognize the pattern

21:26

because I can put everything else together. Fine.

21:29

The big bit is that I can't

21:31

believe I'm going to harp on this. But

21:33

it happened in the last Avengers issue I

21:35

noticed. And it happened here is that they're

21:37

referring to Sam as Captain America. Okay. So

21:39

I had the same note and I was going to bring that

21:41

up next. Okay. We remember we were

21:44

in the Avengers issue. We had triathlon last

21:46

week and he says there's

21:48

two of them and then somebody yells, it's Captain

21:50

America. And I was like, did they bring Steve

21:52

to? I really thought that because then they showed

21:54

Sam and I went, oh, Sam is Captain America.

21:56

Now the problem is, Is that I

21:59

Love Sam. The him I go that

22:01

Sam that's falcon. It does very little about

22:03

him that his turned him into Captain America.

22:05

other them and them constantly telling me that

22:07

he is a symbol or that's the thing

22:09

is that really annoyed me. But as issue

22:11

in a good reader it reaches a said

22:13

we are a Falcon loving. So.

22:16

We love Sam. We love the Falcon. smears,

22:19

Terrible. of Captain America.

22:21

Especially when is another Captain America running? I felt like

22:24

when. But. I took over. Twenty.

22:26

Years ago and exceeds him back and buckets

22:28

garbage can mistake app it was no there

22:30

is only one caps America him over point.

22:33

One of these guys says we're going to

22:35

turn you into a vampire and sincere the

22:37

I thought it's going to devastate the world

22:39

as I I don't think that's the case.

22:41

I think if you turn Steve Rogers into

22:43

a vampire that might deficit the world, it's

22:45

very odd To me, that's it's very nice,

22:48

unpatriotic of it. but the leader of a

22:50

African nation. Is going to can

22:52

defer to Captain America as the symbol of

22:54

the world. As a grown up. With

22:56

a threat and I get that I really

22:58

like Ike. I was like out against Eve

23:01

has earned that. The earned it

23:03

and that would make sense. And. It's

23:05

outside of just the national thing you know,

23:07

like ease, the version of what is best

23:09

and Sam is not force, he's just not

23:12

that saying. It's. Not what he has

23:14

been forever. He's a different kind of character. fine.

23:16

And then the other thing the last in the

23:18

happened was that. Sam.

23:21

Was. Saved in this he did not

23:23

get himself out of it. He was like

23:25

i'm going to fight know like get him

23:27

outta here and you wouldn't ever do that

23:29

to Steve Rogers. And Steve Rogers makes the

23:32

choice in gets himself in and out of

23:34

it. I thought that was a

23:36

weak position for that character he kind of

23:38

kin likes I guess make work in your

23:40

head in the regular vendors both but his

23:42

doesn't make any sense that see branches would

23:45

not be involved in the storyline because he's

23:47

running around. But. he's out in the

23:49

world being captain america also in the

23:51

movies in the tv show i'm actually

23:53

fine with it because the lesson isn't

23:55

the situation's different my him it either

23:57

deals a real will considerations of preserving

24:00

wanted to do it anymore. So I'm totally cool with it in

24:02

the movies. But here, you

24:04

can draw Steve Rogers forever. He's never gonna want more

24:06

money or want to do different things. So

24:09

it doesn't make any sense whatsoever that Steve would not

24:11

be involved in this. And it's just dumb. And it's

24:14

one of the worst parts of the

24:16

Marvel synergy of the movies. But I'm

24:18

reading this, I'm that it was fine.

24:20

I'm looking forward to reading more. I'm

24:22

always happy to see more papillaraz who's incredibly dynamic, one

24:24

of the best new artists that's come around in

24:27

10 years. Also, his name has a

24:29

fun musicality. Papillaraz. All of that.

24:31

I actually had fun reading it. I liked it a lot

24:33

more than I didn't. And I kind of didn't know what

24:35

to expect. But I know that like, Jed McCaes, like, damn,

24:38

he's a fine writer. It's a little by the

24:40

numbers in this one. But it's fun. It's

24:42

exciting. It's compelling. You know, the last page,

24:44

you know, it made me want to read

24:46

what was coming next. They really

24:48

just fuck with Stephen Strange. I

24:50

mean, yeah, he just can't catch a break with

24:53

that dude. I gotta say though, he has had

24:55

maybe the best sort

24:58

of comeback of a character

25:00

over the last couple of decades and

25:02

also just being very consistently depicted.

25:05

You know, Stephen Strange is Stephen Strange. You know, it

25:07

takes on the voice of the writer, you know,

25:09

a little bit here and there. But for the

25:12

most part, he's got his same gravitas, his little

25:14

bit of arrogance, his, you know, but his wizened,

25:16

you know, lessons learned kind of things. I think

25:18

that whole him as a general, I think

25:20

it was a great addition to sort

25:22

of check his ambition and his arrogance

25:24

and, you know, put that in

25:27

the background, but not really change the character that

25:29

much. Like, he knows how powerful he is and

25:31

what he's capable of and he's doing his best.

25:33

I don't even mind Clea. A lot of times

25:35

you put a spouse character along with somebody. It

25:38

depletes it. I think she fits in really well.

25:41

It's been fun. And because there's a contrast there. I'm going

25:43

to read most of these books in the checklist because I've

25:45

been reading most of them anyway. As

25:47

long as it's fun, I'll be into it. Let's talk

25:49

about Superman House of Brainiac

25:52

Special number one, which featured three stories

25:54

related at least somewhat to the

25:56

House of Brainiac story that's going

25:58

through. Sure. of my books right

26:00

now, which is its own mini crossover. What did you

26:03

think of this? I thought it was

26:05

totally innocuous. I thought there

26:07

was interesting things that happened in it. I

26:09

think Brainiac is a good character. I

26:12

think the sort of creepy makeover he's

26:14

had over the last couple decades into

26:16

this, like all knowing, all seeing cosmic

26:18

threat is interesting. I actually

26:20

did find learning about Zarnia,

26:22

you know, somewhat interesting. Yeah. I thought

26:25

the middle story by Mark Russell, Steve

26:27

Pugh was weird. I don't

26:29

know that Perry White, the hardened grizzled editor

26:32

of the paper would be this naive about

26:34

politics. I didn't buy that at all. I

26:37

realized he's a stand-in for our current political

26:39

situation, but it was just bizarre way to

26:41

take this character. So

26:43

that, in that sense, it was... Is that happening? Is

26:46

that, this isn't like this, that's actually happening in the

26:48

other book. He's running for mayor, but that's why Lois

26:50

is in charge. Yeah. Yeah. And then the

26:52

last story, oh, it was Amanda Waller and

26:54

fucking Peacemakers. I basically tuned that out. Yeah,

26:56

that's fine. I thought that

26:58

the Zarnia store, I don't know anything about Zarnia.

27:01

So I was like, okay, this is kind of

27:03

interesting how they set this up and where it's

27:05

interesting. They created a utopia, nobody could die. So

27:07

it kind of turned into bedlam. I was like,

27:10

that's kind of interesting. That's where this character comes

27:12

from. I get that. That makes sense. Second story,

27:14

your comments about Perry White notwithstanding, I loved this

27:16

story. Because Mark

27:18

Russell and Steve Pugh, long

27:20

time listeners will recognize this is a theme

27:22

from Flintstones saying it out loud. He was

27:24

even strange now, but it's a legendary book. It

27:27

is, you know, Mark Russell's entrance to the

27:29

stage. It is a book

27:31

that was so much more than it should have been.

27:33

And we've been watching the different versions of Mark Russell

27:35

sort of float throughout stuff. So that's

27:37

who they are. And at first it

27:40

starts as sort of a very on the

27:42

nose critique of politics today. In

27:44

this immigrants are swapped with

27:46

aliens who live in Metropolis and they're

27:48

going to take our jobs and there's

27:51

protest and basically Perry White. From

27:53

a morality standpoint, this all sort of works

27:55

that he's like, we can't let this happen

27:57

because it's wrong. You know, information matters. Truth

27:59

matters. blah blah blah. But at the middle

28:01

of it is Bibo, who

28:04

is, you know, for the first time in his life,

28:06

you know, he's campaigning. He's campaigning for Perry White and

28:08

his bar is campaign headquarters

28:10

before noon. And then after that,

28:12

it's the bar. And you sort of see these tensioning

28:15

situations where people are showing up for the right wing

28:17

candidate, Garren Blake. And you know, he's like, we got

28:19

to get these aliens out of here. There's shots of

28:21

a kid. They freak out. There's like riots. And we

28:23

go back and we see Bibo's history and like, he's

28:25

like, the thing about the neighborhood is all the different

28:27

people. And that's what makes it great. You go through

28:29

the whole thing. And you know, it is sort of

28:31

on the nose, but I thought it was pretty well

28:33

done. And then I really thought that what nailed it

28:35

at the end is there's a beat at the end.

28:37

And there's this character who you have seen sort of

28:39

in the background of everything the whole time on the

28:42

side of the anti alien people. And he

28:44

sits down and he's like, you know, what happened

28:46

to the girl? It wasn't right. I don't know

28:48

what's right. I'm not saying I changed my mind

28:50

that I'm okay with all the aliens. And then

28:52

he says the line, I just know what I

28:54

don't want to be. And I

28:56

was like, God, that's so good. Because that it was like

28:58

a West Wing moment. To me, it was

29:01

just like, all right, let's get through all this stuff and find

29:03

a human in these sets of ideals. And

29:05

I know that this is fictionalized and everything, but

29:07

it gave me a feeling. And I really I

29:09

was like, that's a wonderful sort of long form

29:11

short story. And you know, at the

29:14

end of it, it's totally, I think

29:16

it's like a liberalized fantasy of like, if we

29:18

can just be nice to these people, then

29:20

we'll all find something in common, which I don't think I

29:22

don't know if that happens in real life. But in here

29:25

it does. And it makes me feel kind of good just

29:27

for a minute. And that, you know,

29:29

really expertly sort of drawn by Steve Pugh,

29:31

who excels at it, great bibbo story, sometimes

29:33

people overdo it, sometimes, you know, they just

29:35

lean into his dialect and just sort of

29:37

do that too much. But I thought that

29:39

it would actually it's set up, it sort

29:41

of explains some of what that character is

29:43

like and why he's, you know, the way

29:45

he is, why he really does respect Superman.

29:47

And I don't know, I really enjoyed that

29:49

story. That would have been my pick of

29:51

the week, because of that story. That's

29:54

what I'm saying. I don't remember anything

29:57

about the Amanda Waller story except that at

29:59

the end, I can kind of is like, all right,

30:01

at least I kind of understand who Amanda Waller is

30:03

now. Do you? No, for this. In

30:05

this context of this story, I

30:08

understand her motivation as we need her in

30:10

this. I think Fico Osio is a great

30:12

artist too. Also kind of understood, it's not

30:15

about understanding a larger, like who is Brainiac

30:17

or who is Amanda Waller. But for this

30:19

story in this production, what are these characters

30:21

and their motivation? And I have that now.

30:23

So that's helpful. Because a lot of times

30:25

I don't understand her motivation. I don't really

30:27

know what to do. Right. And we are heading

30:29

towards the DC event that she is the

30:31

big bad for. So they got to at least

30:33

know what's going on. I think the

30:35

thing that ultimately gets me about her is that she

30:37

shouldn't be the big bad to me. Right.

30:40

I don't think she's supposed to be a bad guy. She's

30:43

the one on the wall. Right. She's

30:45

the wall. Yeah, and then you have

30:47

to make hard choices and do what you

30:50

need to be done. But like, ultimately, she's

30:52

not about gaining, I wouldn't think she's

30:54

not about getting how I would do it, I

30:56

guess. She's not about getting power for herself or

30:58

self aggrandizement. She's doing the hard things that she

31:00

has to do to keep the world safe as

31:02

she sees it. And that is

31:04

different than a narcissist. You know, that's that's Maria

31:06

Hill. She's doing now. It's the whole super beings

31:09

are too dangerous for this world. So we have

31:11

to get rid of them. That's her whole thing.

31:13

I get that. You know, like that makes sense.

31:15

The thing is opposed to like, is it Peter

31:17

Henry Gyreich? Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, he's more

31:20

evil than she is. Right. Because his thing is

31:22

based on bigotry. Whereas her thing is

31:24

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31:26

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that on bookshop.org. Is it really a book? It

33:15

left in 400 pages? I don't know. It's

33:17

part one of Bomblight, whatever that is. I

33:19

don't know what's happening. Is it the prologue?

33:21

Is it? I don't know. It

33:23

sounds to me like a novella. I'm not reading

33:25

anything about it. I'm not reading a description of the

33:27

plot. I don't know. I don't want to know anything.

33:30

But it's just like, what does that mean? And why

33:32

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33:34

done a multi-story, an official one, like, you know, Reemdee

33:36

and Fahl were in the same world. But he hasn't

33:38

done like an official trilogy since what? Since the Diamond

33:41

Age? Oh, I don't know. I

33:43

don't think so. Yeah. So not the Diamond

33:45

Age. Diamond Age is his own book. You're

33:47

thinking of the Baroque trilogy. Baroque trilogy. That's

33:49

what I meant. Well, technically, it's not a

33:51

trilogy. It was a bunch of smaller parts

33:54

that were made into a trilogy for publishing

33:56

concerns. Right. I think it's nine stories. Anyway,

33:58

yeah, we can't. So right

34:00

right, but that wasn't really his call

34:03

as I understand it. I could be wrong. It doesn't matter I

34:05

read them as three books. It is I'm just being pedantic and

34:07

I don't even want to be let's move on

34:09

to crave From Maria Lovett and image

34:11

comics is issues six the final issue and I went

34:14

back and forth on whether or not this ended too

34:16

quickly Or not and I

34:18

think I've changed my mind originally I thought well

34:20

that wrapped up rather fast, but then I thought

34:23

you know as a short story though I thought

34:25

it worked. Well, I was happy

34:27

this was published It's very unlike image

34:29

comics this kind of book very much

34:31

unlike most major publishers a sort of

34:33

a straight-up I guess

34:35

thrillers the right word, but like sexual

34:37

thriller, you know erotica thriller Not

34:39

you know the kind of thing image normally does

34:42

it doesn't involve sabirs or sci-fi or fantasy. I

34:44

liked it a lot I really liked it. I think Maria

34:46

Lovett's really talented the arts terrific. She's got another book coming

34:48

out Looks like vampires. I'm not super told about that, but

34:50

I'll check it out based on the strength of this So

34:52

I ended up lacking quite a bit. I thought the ending

34:55

which was like a daisy chain of desire

34:59

meaning like Charlotte

35:01

wanted John this other girl wanted Charlotte and this other

35:03

girl one of the other girl Like I thought that

35:05

was an interesting way to end it because this book

35:07

was all about unrequited desire And so it ends with

35:10

showing that it has nothing has changed It's still like

35:12

this daisy chain of people who want someone else but

35:14

can't have them I lost the thread a little bit

35:16

in that I guys like I don't remember David By

35:20

the end too many of the people were shaped

35:22

exactly the same and I kind of wait This

35:24

is the blonde one or the I don't think

35:26

it needs to be lit any longer for sure.

35:28

I Think maybe as it

35:30

sort of ended I don't know that there was quite enough meat

35:32

on the bone But I think I just kind

35:34

of lost the thread at some point beautiful I

35:36

don't know if it's a freshman effort it but as

35:38

far as I know it is, you know in

35:40

the world of comic books So it'll be interesting. I

35:42

think we've already seen there's another book coming out We've

35:45

already seen a love it variant cover

35:47

on a couple of books and it stood out

35:49

So it'll be interesting to see what happens with

35:51

this young career I saw space

35:53

ghost number one and I saw that it was

35:55

like a serious gritty take of space ghost and

35:57

I went nope Nothing

35:59

that my life life but wasn't Space

36:01

Ghost serious? Maybe at

36:04

one point but never in my life you know

36:06

the first time I saw Space Ghost was like

36:08

the you know wacky races and that was even

36:10

before Space Ghost Coast to Coast to me he's

36:12

always been a parody comedic character since the 70s

36:15

so well the original great I think it was

36:17

a cartoon not a it was galaxy tilt design

36:19

one of the finest designs of

36:21

all time yeah like round off every

36:24

edge of Batman and just make it

36:26

you know perfect looking and I think

36:28

the original Space Ghost cartoon I don't

36:31

think it was a comic book was sci-fi

36:33

it wasn't funny and so I just

36:36

was interested in seeing what it was

36:38

like David P pose pop pose pop

36:40

ozi I don't know Jonathan Lau on

36:42

art and Adahas on colors and Taylor

36:44

Esposito it was fine it

36:46

was very lost in space action

36:50

blow up stuff to me I'm kind of interested just

36:52

to see how they do it because right away Brack

36:54

is in this and I know Brack as one of

36:56

the silliest and funniest things I've ever seen and heard

36:58

in my life and in this like he's serious but

37:00

every once in a while the words would kind of

37:02

make me think of the cartoon version

37:05

and I I wasn't

37:07

like looking for a great comic book I was curious

37:09

to see how they did it and I think it

37:11

was competent it wasn't like this is amazing I will

37:13

probably read the next one I enjoyed it enough I'm

37:16

just I'm curious I want to know how they're gonna

37:18

handle it but it's like I missed an issue and

37:20

forgot I'd be fine right yeah did

37:22

he sing about bologna sandwiches at all nope

37:24

to be scat no

37:27

what's the point of any of this

37:29

you know lost in space so one of the

37:31

books I read when I was desperate to find

37:33

something that was great was Harley Quinn 2024 annual

37:35

number one because people were talking about it and

37:38

it was Erica Henderson on the story in the

37:40

art and she's really talented it was a story

37:42

about Harley Quinn who pulls a job so it's

37:44

sort of a villainy Harley Quinn because partly I

37:46

don't read the books and works I hate her

37:48

as a hero she was sort of villainy she

37:50

pulls a job a heist with some people and

37:52

they do it disguised and they don't get caught

37:54

like see what happens when you don't pull a job

37:56

where everyone can see you then you can get away with it

37:58

so she takes the cruise to get out of of town

38:00

for a while. It turns out Zatanna is the

38:02

on-cruise entertainment, which I don't think Zatanna is that

38:04

low on the pecking order that she's doing cruises,

38:06

but anyway, it doesn't matter. Turns out there's a

38:09

murder on board, Zatanna and Harley Quinn have to

38:11

work together to solve the murder, and the story

38:13

was fine. The art was terrific. I think Erica

38:15

Henderson's a really great cartoonist, but I just wasn't

38:17

that engaged in the story. But I enjoyed the

38:19

art. It looks good, but the story didn't do

38:21

much for me. I didn't read it. Yeah,

38:24

it's fine. So those are the books we wanted to talk

38:26

about. It was a really small week for me, at least. There

38:28

wasn't a lot of books, but at

38:31

patreon.com/ifanboy, every patron to the show gets

38:33

a book. Those words don't make sense

38:35

together in that order. Every patron

38:37

of the show gets to vote to add a book to

38:39

the rundown, and this

38:41

week the overwhelming favorite was Get

38:43

Fury Number One from Marvel's Max

38:45

line, written by Garth Ennis, drawn

38:47

by Jason Burroughs, inks by Guillermo Ortego, and

38:50

colors by Nolan Woodward, and letters by Rob Steen. If

38:52

you'd asked me, Josh, going into the week, what I

38:54

thought the pick of the week was going to be,

38:56

I would have told you Get Fury. My main question

38:58

coming into the show was, why wasn't that pick of

39:01

the week? It felt very much

39:03

like, this is something we say a

39:05

lot, it felt very much like a

39:07

cold open. Like, not a lot really

39:09

happened, really. I don't remember the

39:11

name of the one they're talking about, the previous story

39:13

that involved them, but sort of a sequel to what

39:16

Garth's done before. And this is the best stuff that

39:18

he does, right? Like these days. He

39:20

has these horror books he does that don't really

39:22

do a ton for me. He occasionally does a

39:24

crime book, which I feel like is just him

39:26

on autopilot. But his best work

39:28

consistently over the last couple of years has

39:30

been these Marvel war books starring either Punisher

39:32

or Nick Fury, or both. It's

39:35

Vietnam, you know, Punisher gets a mission, he's

39:37

got to go kill Nick Fury because Nick

39:39

Fury's been captured by the North Vietnamese, and

39:41

he knows too much as a CIA super

39:43

spy, he has too much information. They're

39:45

afraid the adventure is going to break Fury and

39:48

get all that information. So, Punisher's secret mission is

39:50

to go track him down, not

39:52

rescue him, but kill him. And

39:54

that's basically all we really happens in this issue

39:56

is he gets his orders, we see Fury in

39:58

captivity, there's a really horrific... ending. But for

40:00

the most part, it was, you know, a good chunk

40:03

of the book was just a big mission briefing. And

40:05

so it wasn't like a lot happened that was really

40:07

overly compelling. But I am excited for the rest of

40:09

it. I know what you're saying about it being sort

40:11

of an opening act, but I did think that it

40:14

did a really good job of bringing me up to

40:16

speed. Because it sort of started and I was like,

40:18

all right, all right, this is kind of all familiar.

40:20

And that first guy showed up job and kind

40:23

of familiar. And then by the end of

40:25

it, I was in place. I was so and

40:27

it was so much better. Not everybody can get

40:29

away with this, by the way, because you do not

40:31

want an issue that's sort of a recap of everything

40:34

that's happened before. But this one I would give it

40:36

the exception. And it's gonna let me enjoy what comes

40:38

after better because I don't know when those last ones

40:40

came out. I forgot that Fury and Castle were in

40:42

them together. And Matt, you know, if they had just

40:45

gotten into it, I think I would have enjoyed it

40:47

less. So as I was reading through it, I was

40:49

like, this is a very enjoyable refresher without me having

40:51

to go back and pick up those other things and

40:53

also sort of set up where we are. So you're

40:55

not wrong about that. You know, but

40:58

at the end of the day, I liked spending

41:00

time in this world, it got me thinking a

41:02

lot about the Garth Ennis, who I fell

41:04

in love with and the Garth Ennis who is

41:06

here now. And like, I don't know if it's

41:08

a personal thing or if it's a market thing,

41:10

or probably some combination of like, you know, the

41:13

guy who does a 5060 issue

41:15

story, is he done now? Living

41:18

market done for that. Yeah, I

41:20

get it. But at some point, like this guy

41:22

has stories in him, you know, he's not that

41:24

old. And this is what he gets to do

41:26

or wants to do. I don't know. But it's

41:29

like an adjustment because I read this. And there's

41:31

something I really love about it. And it's very

41:33

related to the thing that I really love about

41:35

preacher, hitman, etc. But it is a

41:37

different set of muscles. But then as he sort of

41:39

gets going in this, the one thing is that for

41:41

whatever reason, and I would love to have a conversation

41:43

with him about this someday, when you

41:45

get to these tough guy,

41:48

war people, and

41:51

soldiers like he just he

41:53

does it so well, that clip

41:55

speech that cut to the

41:58

point that attached.

42:01

It was stoic heroism. Yeah.

42:04

It's so good. And it is one

42:06

of those things where like I can write, I'm

42:09

not talking about like my being able to do

42:11

something, but I understand how you write glib sarcastic

42:13

characters or people who are in over their heads.

42:15

We see a lot of this because it's just

42:17

comic book writers talking to you, the reader. But

42:20

Garth Ennis' thing, Frig Recca does

42:22

this too. It's really like a

42:24

power fantasy of what if you were this kind of

42:26

person. And not a

42:28

lot of people do that really well. Like

42:30

great military stories tend to have these kinds

42:32

of characters. And I don't

42:34

think they'd be really enjoyable to be around in

42:37

real life. But in this format, it's really something

42:39

to me because it's really getting in a different

42:41

head space. And I think that he

42:43

does it better than anybody ever has in comic books

42:45

and probably ever will. And I don't

42:47

think there's a huge audience for it, but every time it shows up,

42:49

I don't get sick of it because it's just so well done. There's

42:52

a bit in here where Fury and his

42:54

two guys have been taken

42:56

by bandits basically, and then they're sold

42:58

to the VC. And they're marching

43:00

them to the Northern Capitol, which I don't remember. They

43:02

said they can't go there. It is Vietnam in this,

43:05

right? It's not like... This is Vietnam,

43:07

yep. Right. Okay. Not

43:09

the Marvel version of it. But they were in camp... No,

43:11

not that weird of a Marvel... No, this is Vietnam. They

43:13

were in Cambodia, I think, actually. And

43:15

so the one guy falls down... These

43:18

are just war stories. You can read these stories from the

43:20

Roman army. You can read them from World War II. You

43:22

can read everything in between. The one guy falls down and

43:24

can't get up. And the bad

43:26

guys are yelling at him. They're gonna

43:28

shoot him, and they end up

43:30

burying him alive, which is a thing that happened. See,

43:33

you can read it like that in the form when

43:35

I say it out loud, it's like, that's fucking horrific.

43:37

So there's three guys, three prisoners. The other guy, not

43:39

Fury, starts yelling at them. Like what monster? Stop it.

43:42

He's a man, whatever. And Nick Fury is

43:45

basically saying to him, you have to stop. I'm

43:47

the only one they want. You are not valuable. They

43:49

will kill you if you do this. What's

43:52

done is done. We can't do it. It's

43:54

very different than the sort

43:56

of no man left behind valor.

44:00

fictional stories. Either way,

44:02

I mean, whether it be Special Forces or just

44:04

a real, you know, real soldier, Frank Castle is

44:07

gonna make these kind of stories and he's a

44:09

straight-up Marine. The point is like that attitude, that

44:11

ideological framework of how you survive in a situation

44:13

like this. You just get the sense that like,

44:15

Arthandis has read a thousand

44:17

books on this and like he's

44:19

gotten into the minds of those people. So when

44:22

he puts it, you know, different people in different

44:24

situations, you know, and I'm like, I know

44:26

his age, I know he's from Northern Ireland, he probably

44:28

grew up in some fucking shit, you know,

44:30

and it's just all

44:32

fascinating. But at the end of the day, it's incredibly

44:35

entertaining and it's

44:37

incredibly succinct. It's just so

44:40

effortless and quick to read, not to make, I'm

44:43

not saying it's easy to make, but there's a

44:45

coolness to it. I love it. I

44:47

cannot get enough of it. And Jason Burroughs

44:49

is perfect for these kind of things. Well,

44:51

he's very much in the school of Steve

44:53

Dillon. Yes. Slightly more dynamic,

44:56

but only slightly more, which is not, I'm not

44:58

gonna see Dillon, that just wasn't his style. Slightly

45:00

more marvel-y, but definitely in the same school, same

45:03

style school. Yeah, Steve Dillon

45:05

had that rigidity that, you know, for some

45:07

people would be a weakness, but for him

45:09

was style. So, ratings on Get

45:11

Fury number one ratings out of five. I'm

45:13

giving out at four, and I'm very

45:15

excited to read more. Four and a quarter. Very

45:18

excited to read more. All right, sticking with

45:20

it. We are. Thank you for voting.

45:22

patreon.com/iFamboy. But if you give it the five

45:24

dollar or higher level, you get a superpower live on the

45:26

show, like Cal lists. Cal lists

45:28

his power is, Cal always knows

45:31

when he's

45:33

being scammed or fished.

45:36

Catfished, regular fished, any

45:39

kind of fish you can figure out. Cal knows it.

45:41

Cal knows when there's a scam going on. Is

45:44

the true code a scam? Cal knows it. Any

45:46

kind of scam, from small and off

45:48

US daily scams to big fishing scams.

45:50

Here's a very subtle question. Yeah. The

45:53

guy selling the true code. Yeah. He

45:56

has been told by his company. But he knows

45:58

his bullshit. Well, no, but it's just like... Let's

46:00

say we're not using the true code is just

46:02

the thing. He believes it. He's

46:04

not trying to scam anybody. Maybe

46:06

higher up in the company, someone's like, we know this

46:09

is bullshit. But you have been at companies, and I

46:11

have been at companies. Companies don't usually think the thing

46:13

they're doing is bullshit. They have to think that

46:16

it is actually valuable, even though maybe deep in their

46:18

hearts they kind of know it's bullshit or somebody does.

46:20

But there's a lot of people who try to sell

46:22

you things and they really believe what they're saying. What

46:25

I'm saying is, if they're not trying

46:27

to fool you, but ultimately it's no

46:29

good, is he picking up on that? Yeah, it's not

46:31

about the person in front of him. He just knows

46:33

that ultimately this is a scam. Okay.

46:36

I'm not saying the person in doing it is hard,

46:38

or in doing it is the one who's scamming, but

46:40

ultimately he knows this is a scam. There's nothing here.

46:43

You can't scam Calyst. You can't con him.

46:45

You can't flim flam him. You

46:48

can't pull the old Ricky's bones on him. How

46:50

about the one-two? You can't pull the one-two.

46:52

At least stay with one. You can't pull

46:54

any of it. Cal's

46:56

unscanable. patreon.com slash fm. Boy, thanks

46:58

for being a patron. So Josh, we

47:00

got an email. I'm going to put it under the file

47:03

of, Josh, I told you so. This

47:05

is what happened when we skipped an email. You really like that

47:07

file. That's a big file. It's a big file. It's my favorite

47:09

file. It's on top. Told you

47:11

this would happen. Brad P. wrote

47:14

in, as a long time listener and recipient of

47:16

a superpower years ago, I'm always grounded according to

47:18

Ron. I have one question which I

47:20

think about virtually every episode. You always

47:22

say, we don't have time for emails or we only

47:24

have time for one email this week. Why is that

47:26

exactly? Do you think that we, your faithful audience, is

47:28

going to bail if your show runs longer than 60

47:30

minutes? Highly doubtful. We'll

47:33

listen for another 60 minutes as long as it takes. We love listening

47:35

to you guys. I assume it's just because

47:37

you've got other stuff to do, but honestly, and please remember, I

47:39

really do love you guys. When you rush to the end of

47:41

the show or drop the emails, you sound like the people at

47:43

the DMV who shutter their window abruptly at 5 p.m., even if

47:45

there's still people in line, because they hate

47:47

their jobs, they just want to leave. I'm not saying you owe

47:49

us more time, but I do feel that if your listeners and

47:51

subscribers take the time to write, you should spend an extra 10,

47:53

15, 20 minutes to respond. You're kind of

47:56

saying it. This is not personal. I've rarely written an

47:58

email and never expected an answer on the air. So

48:00

this isn't about me feeling slighted. I just genuinely enjoy

48:02

hearing this email questions and it's almost always engenders an

48:04

interesting conversation. It's often one of the most interesting segments

48:06

of the show. So come on, don't

48:09

be like those nasty clerks who abruptly shove you out

48:11

the door at closing time. Either friendly

48:13

neighborhood store owner keeps the place open a little longer so

48:15

we can all finish browsing and make our purchases. Once

48:17

again, just to be understood, I love you guys. So

48:21

I want to acknowledge Brad P's email.

48:24

First of all, the people at the DMV,

48:26

the fact that they make it to closing

48:28

time is a miracle. They take way more

48:30

abuse than we do. They're civil

48:32

servants. They're not there to

48:35

make everybody happy. They're working a shit job

48:38

for what essentially amounts to

48:40

okay benefits. Show up early. Make

48:42

your appointment on ... They're not bad people. I

48:44

know you feel bad out there, but it's not

48:46

about you. I do want to acknowledge that Brad's

48:48

email comes from a place of constructive love and

48:50

not from criticism, from hate. So I just want

48:52

to acknowledge that. Something I would say here maybe

48:54

sounds harsher than not. I do have other shit

48:56

to do. Right now, it's the middle of the

48:58

day. I shouldn't be doing this right now.

49:01

Well, yeah, this is not ... No, I know that, but

49:03

we have to fit the thing in the middle so we

49:05

have an allotted time that we can do

49:07

... Well, let's back it up though. Let's back it up.

49:10

It's true that there's no external force keeping

49:12

the show around an hour. No one's making

49:14

us do that other than ourselves. No

49:17

one's stopping us from doing a two hour, four hour, ten

49:19

hour show other than we'd probably go

49:21

broke from the hosting fees, but we

49:24

decided that's about how we like the show to be,

49:26

about an hour. It happened fairly

49:28

quickly. Our first test was 18 minutes long. I think

49:30

it took not very long until we

49:32

got to about an hour and we decided that was like

49:34

the amount of time we felt right now. When

49:36

we first started in 2005, most

49:39

shows ... And ours started that way too because no

49:41

one knew what they were doing was not

49:43

Pipeline and not Ord Bloom because those are one person shows,

49:46

but the shows that were groups of people, it

49:48

was like turn on your microphone and talk for

49:50

however long and there were shows like

49:52

Comic Geek speak that went two or three hours. We

49:55

didn't want to do that. Josh and I came from

49:57

at the time from working in television and

49:59

our aesthetic was ... more produced, more

50:01

polished. Not to say that the shows are bad. Each

50:03

format has its pluses and minuses. But we

50:05

wanted to do a show that was more produced. And

50:08

so we try to hit a time. We don't ever

50:10

hit it. But we try. Like,

50:12

we want the show to be about an hour. We

50:14

want the recurring segments, we want to hit about an

50:17

hour. It's like when I watch, you

50:19

know, Stephen Colbert, it's an hour long show. Sometimes I

50:21

wish the interview went longer. Sure, but it's not. It's

50:23

an hour long show. Because that's a show we want

50:25

to make. We want to make it highly edited, highly

50:27

produced, hour-ish show. Sometimes we

50:30

go longer. Occasionally go a little

50:32

shorter. I'm always aiming for

50:34

one hour flat. We have never hit it other

50:36

than a handful of times over the years. I

50:38

very much like the idea of a framework in

50:40

a context. You have to work within a thing

50:43

because otherwise you can spin

50:45

out of control really quickly. I think

50:47

from a producing standpoint, I mean, you

50:49

would be maybe not shocked. But you

50:51

I would think you would be shocked

50:53

at how often Conneron and myself discuss

50:55

movie length, like all the time. Because

50:57

when you have an

50:59

open framework, you don't have to tighten

51:02

it up. You don't have to get to the point. You don't

51:04

have to do the thing. And I think we all like that

51:06

as a thing. We like the time you're spending being valuable. I

51:08

also want to say that we really like doing emails.

51:10

It's always one of my favorite things. And we're never

51:13

happy about skipping emails. And actually, I do want to

51:15

mention this because I did look this up after he

51:17

said 10%. So I looked at the

51:19

last 26 episodes going back to 900, which

51:21

is about a half a year's worth of shows. We'd

51:24

like to guess how many of those shows we did not answer

51:26

emails in. Not many. For?

51:30

That's pretty good. And one of them was the

51:32

final show of the year, which we never answer emails in that we

51:34

always spend that time talking about stats. So really, it's like three. So

51:37

three out of 25 shows, we

51:40

didn't answer email the rest we did emails. We've been pretty good about

51:42

it just so happens the last two weeks in a row. We

51:44

didn't do it for various reasons. And then yeah, sometimes we

51:47

only have one time for one email. But that's okay. You

51:49

know, gone are the

51:51

days we would do four or five emails in a show just

51:54

because the show is different now. It's sort of grown in change

51:56

over the years or Josh, I spend longer on the books that

51:58

we used to. But we always

52:00

want to at least get one email because we like

52:02

it and we don't discount people writing in but it's

52:05

unfortunately that's the flex segment where if we're

52:07

long we have to cut it. Again, like

52:09

a professionally produced talk show, occasionally the third guest

52:12

gets cut if the first guest goes long. So

52:14

we should start referring to it as bumping. We

52:17

bump the emails. We should start saying the name of

52:19

the person and be like, oh, we're sorry to so

52:21

and so we're going to see you next week. I

52:24

do want to mention this is sort of similar to

52:26

what Josh mentioned about how there are other things to

52:28

do that are just as important like, you know, normally,

52:32

ironically not today but normally not

52:34

99 out of 100 times we record the show Thursday

52:36

night after I'm done with work or after

52:38

the floating on the patron pick is done. And

52:40

so the thing I'm trying to get to is dinner

52:42

with my wife and so that is important. It's

52:45

not like I'm not shutting the show down

52:47

so I can go have a drink or I'm trying to get

52:49

to dinner with my wife. She's waiting for me to eat. It's

52:51

like the two hours I can spend with her before she falls

52:53

asleep. So, you know, that is important. Yes, shows also really important.

52:55

It's one of the most important hours of my week. We talk

52:58

about it all the time. But since so it's been time with

53:00

my family and it's literally the same thing

53:02

here. Time frames a little different is I have to

53:04

get down there before she falls asleep so I can

53:06

spend a little time with her. Right. You know, because

53:08

I've rushed away from putting the kids to bed and

53:10

coming up to do the show, which we love. I

53:12

mean, the end of the day that what we've done

53:14

is we have these lives that have constraints. And so

53:16

we've created this thing to fit within that. So when

53:18

we go outside of that framework, it creates pressure on

53:20

the other points. This is not our full time

53:22

job anymore. When it was a full time job, it was a lot easier

53:24

to do all the stuff. You do it

53:27

during the workday because it was your job and we could

53:29

do the show during the day and not worry about all

53:31

that stuff. But now it's back to being our part time job and we

53:33

have to fill it in the cracks of our lives. You

53:35

know, we're not 27 anymore. So we

53:38

have other things

53:40

in our lives that are important as well. But

53:42

that's a sort of beside the point of we

53:44

always always even when in our 20s, we're doing

53:46

an hour long produced show. And the other thing, the

53:48

last point I want to make is as a

53:51

listener, you're only getting the final

53:53

product, which is the finished show. We'll just call

53:55

it an hour even though it's always never an

53:57

hour, but you're getting that hour long show.

54:00

To make that hour-long show, we're spending from

54:02

pre-production, not counting the reading of the books

54:04

because that's what it is, but from pre-production

54:07

to post-production, and there's a lot of stuff

54:09

that goes into post-production, you're looking at five

54:11

or six times the length of the show

54:14

following to get it out. And so for every

54:16

minute we go over, that increases the time it

54:18

takes to make the show. So like if the

54:20

show is X and to make the show is

54:22

5X, if you ask us to add another 20

54:25

to 30 minutes to the show, you're now exponentially

54:27

increasing the amount of time we spend putting it

54:29

together because editing takes longer, all the stuff takes longer.

54:32

I don't know that I fully agree with that math, but

54:34

you're not wrong. I mean, it's definitely at

54:37

the very least you're doubling. If

54:39

an hour-long show takes me five hours, now you're asked to do another 20

54:41

to 30 minutes, that's going to take me eight hours to

54:44

edit the show. You get the

54:46

final product, but there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes. It's

54:48

like making a movie. You go to watch a movie and it's two

54:50

hours, but it takes them eight, nine months to make that movie. So

54:52

it's tough. We don't like it. I'm always

54:55

not happy when we skip the emails, but sometimes it has to

54:57

happen. Again, it only happened three, four times in the last half

54:59

year. It just happens two of them in

55:01

the last two weeks. Okay, there you go. That's

55:03

where it is. It's not because we need a lot of people. I'm

55:05

not going to bring a email. Again, we don't like doing it. We're

55:07

going to have to never do it, but it is what it is.

55:09

No one's upset. We're fine.

55:11

We'll read one of the other ones. Let's do a silly quick one.

55:13

Dan C. from New Jersey. When I was a

55:16

kid, I got excited when Marvel Books started to come out bimonthly

55:18

in the summer. So in July, we'd get

55:20

an early October issue within a late October issue. But

55:22

other books, like the current Savage sort of Conan, are

55:25

also bimonthly, meaning they come out every two months. The

55:27

dictionary says that both meetings are acceptable. And

55:29

since this is obviously unacceptable, I

55:31

appeal to you to decide what the proper usage is within

55:34

comics. I've been thinking of this question

55:36

since accidentious issues I've been asking for. It's

55:38

a long time. I feel like they used to

55:40

be called biweekly. Like when they

55:42

cannot, twice a month, they used to be biweekly. And

55:44

then they became bimonthly. And then everything became bimonthly. Now

55:46

bimonthly doesn't mean anything anymore. I think

55:48

Dan just did my head in. Because

55:50

I started doing it with everything in

55:52

the world. And I was like, you're

55:54

right. I love it. Makes sense.

56:00

is every two months. It should be,

56:02

but he's right. They use it now in comics as bi-monthly meaning

56:05

twice a month, which doesn't make any

56:07

sense. That's bi-weekly. That should be bi-weekly,

56:09

but they stopped using that phrase. It doesn't make any sense.

56:11

I don't know why. Well, it's...

56:13

Here's my... It's wrong. They're

56:16

wrong, and they're forcing you to just

56:19

accept that they're wrong, and it makes the world

56:21

very difficult. It's one of the many

56:23

weird things about comics, and actually, I kind of

56:25

love it. Yeah, no, I appreciate it. I appreciate

56:27

that comics is this weird subculture that has its

56:29

own weird words and phrases and meanings and things

56:32

that don't make any sense when you really look

56:34

at them. Why are we calling

56:36

everything bi-monthly? I don't know. Do comics still come out

56:38

even twice? A lot of them went back to monthly.

56:41

I've really, like, lost track of

56:43

what books are bi-weekly. You

56:45

know... Nothing's bi-weekly anymore. The

56:48

Revolution. Well, bi-weekly is every two

56:50

weeks, right? Right. Nothing comes out that often

56:52

anymore. Oh,

56:56

I'm sorry. See? No, I'm confused. Oh, shit.

56:58

You're right. No, you're right. For a while,

57:01

everything was bi-weekly. Right. And

57:04

now only some books are bi-weekly. Many have

57:06

gone back to monthly. Well, so what happens

57:08

is the bi-weekly ones feel like they came

57:10

up too soon, and the bi-monthly ones... Or

57:12

no, the monthly ones... Jesus. The monthly ones

57:14

feel like it's been forever. Right,

57:17

because our brain's that programmed. Yeah, all

57:19

of the instincts are off now. Which is,

57:21

by the way, if you want to know why we keep going, I don't remember

57:23

what happened to the last issue, this is why. Because

57:25

the rhythm has been interrupted, and my brain

57:27

hasn't figured out how to automatically store the

57:29

information for the correct amount of time. Correct.

57:32

And some books change

57:35

their schedule. They're occasionally bi-weekly, and then they

57:37

go to monthly. Like, I was

57:39

reading about the new X-Men books that

57:41

are coming out, and Tom Brevoort was

57:43

like, some books will come out 18 times a year, some

57:45

will come out 12. Sometimes they'll come out quicker than others,

57:47

then they'll go back to monthly. I'm like, you can't do

57:49

that. Listen, Tom...

57:53

I talked directly to Tom Brevoort. Tom,

57:56

you've been an enormous positive impact on my

57:58

life in ways that I probably... couldn't

58:00

even understand, left and right.

58:03

But at the same time, fuck off! You

58:05

can't do that! Every book should have a set

58:07

schedule. Help us out, man. Is

58:12

this an us problem? This is gonna be an

58:14

us thing. Other people are like, what's the problem?

58:16

And she's like, we are fighting, we are

58:19

fighting mental decline.

58:21

Calcification. Yes. Listen,

58:24

there is such a thing as plasticity.

58:27

And it is in low supply. And

58:29

the more that you screw it, we

58:31

have to know what to expect

58:33

and when to expect it, or things

58:35

don't make sense. I

58:37

have these slots are available for this thing,

58:40

and you're jiggering up the schedule.

58:43

They did break everything when they changed from monthly

58:45

to biweekly for

58:47

almost every book. And then it became like, our

58:50

brains got used to that. And now, as you said,

58:53

when a book comes out, truly monthly, you're just like,

58:55

wait, what happened five years ago when I read the

58:57

last issue? It's just, it's a lot.

59:01

But no, you're right. Dan is correct.

59:03

They shouldn't all be called bi-monthly, they should be biweekly

59:05

and bi-monthly. That is our

59:07

verdict. No, Balm, like Savage Sword

59:09

of Conan is- Is bi-monthly. Is

59:11

bi-monthly. Regular comics. I

59:14

can't believe that I have to specify this. This is for me, for

59:16

me, not you. Are monthly. Yeah, yeah.

59:18

But they're not bi-anything. But no, but then there's the

59:20

biweekly books like Batman or whatever that come over two

59:22

weeks. Now, what's a Tim Drake book? Bi-curious.

59:27

He's not curious. That's not- That's true. Well, he's

59:29

looking confused. Bi-confused. I think, I

59:31

don't think he's the one who's confused. I

59:33

don't even know anymore. Remember Tim Drake?

59:35

Remember how we used to love him? All right.

59:37

patreon.com. Okay, no, it's not because of that. No,

59:40

no, not because of this. No, not because of

59:42

the spirituality, because of his confusion. Yes.

59:44

His lack of confidence. All

59:46

of his lack of self-awareness and self-

59:50

He recognizes that the corporation has

59:53

lost touch of what the

59:55

character is. Yes. And then implemented something

59:57

to try to make it better and

59:59

instead- Just muck the whole thing

1:00:01

up right the most

1:00:03

self-confident so I

1:00:06

can't see I'm groping for words with my brain won't allow it

1:00:09

See for example, this is gonna make the show longer because

1:00:11

we got to figure out how far back to cut out

1:00:13

what I just said Contact

1:00:17

my fanboy comm so you can write

1:00:19

in like Dan and they both dance

1:00:22

Dan. No Brad Brad and Dan You

1:00:25

can write in like they did or you can write in

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for me just blood show me to put me to split

1:00:29

in the subject Why thank you for doing so so as

1:00:31

we mentioned last week May which is

1:00:33

the month we're in now is me chock full of

1:00:35

the shows is gonna be Nine

1:00:38

shows maybe in May all

1:00:40

told all in we're gonna have a

1:00:42

talk splode We're gonna have a special edition review of Justice League Christ

1:00:44

and if another is part two We're gonna have a book splode review

1:00:47

of Avengers Crease Girl War. We're

1:00:49

gonna have a media splode Oh the last one's not

1:00:51

a show. There's gonna be eight shows and

1:00:53

then there's a Patriot hangout So there's a lot

1:00:55

going on this month. I think this coming week is

1:00:58

gonna be the books bloat. I Believe

1:01:00

that's the first one up on the schedule It

1:01:03

might be fluid, but we have to

1:01:05

have one this week. I believe it's gonna be the books books

1:01:07

We haven't done it yet But that's the plan all

1:01:10

the regular shows plus a talk splode of books below the

1:01:12

media splode and a special edition show And then

1:01:14

if you're a patron the patron hangout on

1:01:16

May 24th kick off for Memorial Day weekend.

1:01:19

So Lots to do lots of

1:01:21

fun. Oh, it all life and boy HQ Lots

1:01:25

of that while I talk. I'm just gonna check in

1:01:27

with somebody right now Week

1:01:30

looking okay All

1:01:34

right. There we go You

1:01:37

plan B. No, it'll be fine.

1:01:39

Okay. Listen, it's mostly me. It's not me.

1:01:41

It's a little me I'm pretty sure you push the talks close

1:01:43

at the end of the month just for that reason. Yeah, whatever

1:01:46

Yeah, okay. Where were we it just

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a social network. It's not anymore as

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far as I know. It seems like it's a store. It's

1:02:26

a store with extremely short-form programming

1:02:28

mixed in with short-form ads. Yeah.

1:02:32

Yeah. Everything's terrible. I can't put

1:02:35

it down sometimes though. It's just

1:02:37

interesting enough. Well, the good news

1:02:39

is LinkedIn has added games. Really?

1:02:42

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone saw the success of The New York Times

1:02:44

and The New York Times is now a gaming company. More people

1:02:46

go to The New York Times to play games and read the

1:02:48

news. And so LinkedIn announced this week they're adding their own daily

1:02:51

games. Oh, man. There's the innovation you want to

1:02:53

see. There's

1:02:55

no website I hate more. There's not one. I

1:02:58

thought you loved The New York Times and then I was like, I understand.

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Yeah. Yeah. I hate it. I'm actively angry

1:03:03

that I have to be on it. I tell people

1:03:05

all the time. Yeah, I hate it. I

1:03:08

hate it. It's the most performative, insincere thing.

1:03:10

But I also hate that we have all this.

1:03:13

This is a rant. But I hate that we all decided that

1:03:15

we all are going to put our professional lives in the hands

1:03:17

of a private company. Like

1:03:19

I have to make these guys rich to have a job.

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Well, Elsa didn't even work.

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Doesn't work. Anyway,

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1:04:07

morning because we had a conflict.

1:04:09

And so I am just

1:04:12

now waking up. I wasn't really awake when

1:04:14

the show started. I was sort of on autopilot. I

1:04:17

certainly wasn't, and I got three hours on

1:04:19

you, so. That was the first time I spoke when

1:04:21

we united. Hello, when I first logged on. So

1:04:27

that's a very funny way of looking at it. The

1:04:30

words are coming out in the right order. Almost all

1:04:32

the time. Seriously, I never got to my grumpy

1:04:34

bit this week. It's fine. I

1:04:37

was gonna be tired and surly, and I just. It

1:04:39

was always next week. God. It was always next week.

1:04:42

It was always when the kids get home. All right,

1:04:44

well, until then, I'm Connor. I'm Josh,

1:04:46

thank you for helping me.

1:04:49

Wow, wow, what they say. I'm

1:04:51

super duper, diddy, performance, hand-dooing. And

1:04:53

I'm not letting it in, you do it, you

1:04:55

do it. Hello, what, what,

1:04:58

yappano sandwich. I'm

1:05:03

not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

1:05:05

I'm not. Now, now, what next, you do it. Hey,

1:05:09

on, I'm not, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1:05:11

no, no, no, no, no. You

1:05:13

don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, how's

1:05:15

that, you, you, you, you, wow. Man,

1:05:18

it's song time. Man,

1:05:20

song's over. What's

1:05:22

up? The one we were doing.