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Ahoy there! It's the IGN

1:12

UK podcast. Join us on the merry

1:14

seas as we sail across the oceans

1:17

of games, films, and TV. I

1:20

am your captain Simon

1:22

Cardy. And I have a bit of a cold, so

1:24

I might not sound great. So I apologize for that. With

1:26

me are my ship mates. I don't

1:29

know where the pirates stuff's coming from. I

1:31

don't know where this is all coming from. I literally decided

1:33

this two seconds ago. Jesse,

1:36

what job on a pirate ship would

1:38

you want?

1:39

Cleaning the cannons, that seems fun. You'd

1:42

want to be the one cleaning the cannons? Yeah, I don't

1:44

need to fire them, because I don't want to die. But you know, just cleaning

1:46

and vibe into some nice

1:48

shanty music and shit. Matt Persluck, I

1:50

could see you in the crow's nest. I

1:53

was going to suggest first mate, but if you want to

1:55

stick me up there away from you, fine,

1:58

I'll take that. No, I would try.

1:59

I trust you

2:02

to be alert on the lookout. Wouldn't personally be

2:04

the first to die if the ship gets there? Not

2:07

necessarily. I mean, it depends

2:09

if the enemy ships had snipers

2:11

or if they were leaning on mortar fire,

2:13

for example. This seems dangerous. I've

2:16

probably mentioned this before. As a kid I

2:18

was desperate to get in and one Christmas I did get

2:20

it. It's barely a board game.

2:22

It was called Black Biz Treasure where you just fired

2:24

cannons at each other. As I remembered the

2:27

advert on TV where it had the cannonballs

2:30

going off. It looks great

2:32

on TV. It was still pretty good to play but

2:35

I basically just used it to fire cannons at Star

2:37

Wars figures in the end. That was good fun. Bring

2:40

back Black Biz Treasure. Sure they

2:43

are bloody bringing it back though. GTA,

2:45

they're making another one of them. That's a

2:47

surprise isn't it? Oh, alarming.

2:50

Oh no. There's not really a lot to say

2:52

until December until we started this trailer but it'd

2:55

be stupid not to mention

2:57

the new GTA 6. We knew this was

3:00

coming. It's not hardly a surprise. It feels

3:02

like an unceremonious way to announce GTA 6.

3:05

We already had that with leaks but now we've got that

3:07

buried in the fourth tweet. It's

3:09

not that full it leaked. It

3:12

is funny just the fourth tweet of a Fred just

3:14

to go, oh yeah by the way, new GTA is coming.

3:18

I like it. Every rock star moon

3:20

in every way, in every mean

3:22

of the word. Yeah,

3:25

I don't know. I'm just putting you guys

3:27

on the spot. What's the one thing you want to see from a new

3:29

GTA? What do you want?

3:31

Just something that

3:34

pushes forward the systemic

3:36

layers in that world. I want

3:39

dynamic. You know

3:41

how San Andreas had the turf

3:44

kind of elements that had those dynamic battles?

3:46

I'm not necessarily looking for that but

3:49

I want something that when we do things there's

3:51

a distinct impact on the city and

3:53

you can feel what we're

3:55

doing. Whether that's kind of like you

3:57

know how you could rob bank robbing was

3:59

a

5:40

a

6:00

technical showcase and

6:02

in terms of cause for yeah

6:04

very much no well I just I don't

6:06

know I'm just I feel like when it comes to GTI I'm always

6:09

amazed by like the technical

6:11

and mechanical aspects of it because I know the story

6:13

is always going to be spawned but just the technological

6:16

advancements because from GTA 5 to Red

6:18

Dead 2 the graphics are insane

6:20

in terms of you know the difference between them and GTA 6

6:23

is going to be a huge step up hopefully

6:26

hopefully bring back Danny Dyer

6:28

as well that's another thing for the wish list yeah

6:30

if they get that then they got spot on weather

6:33

and Danny Dyer that's what we wanted was he in a

6:35

GTA 6? Yeah.

6:37

Which one?

6:38

By City right? I'm not going mad. I just can't I

6:40

just can't remember that. He's like the British

6:43

um... Was he like a DJ

6:45

host? No he's like a

6:48

he's a bit of a worm to be quite honest like everybody

6:50

remembers obviously Ray Liotta and kind of like

6:52

you know the the bigger Hollywood stars but yeah he's

6:55

a weird bearded British character that's

6:57

kind of just a bit of a horrible worm. I provided

6:59

the voice of Kent Paul. There

7:02

we go.

7:02

Favorite guy. Lying.

7:05

Should Danny Dyer provide

7:07

the voice of Link in the Legend

7:09

of Zelda movie or indeed the likeness should

7:12

Danny Dyer play Link in the Zelda

7:14

movie with finally after what feels

7:16

like my whole life of speculation getting

7:19

a Zelda adaptation I

7:21

think the one thing that surprised everyone especially after the

7:23

I'm guess a relative success of the Super

7:25

Mario movie earlier this year like they've

7:28

gone live action with it which

7:31

seems a bizarre

7:34

move. I hate it. Is it going to be

7:36

live action in the sense that like it's going to be real

7:38

world at?

7:39

I mean we don't know it's. I feel like it's

7:41

going to be like a weird modern take

7:44

on it where like I don't know like a

7:46

brother and sis accidentally fall into a fucking

7:48

Hyrule and then it's all like I don't

7:51

know I'm trying to imagine the worst when it comes

7:53

to it. I think they'll take one of the

7:55

stories they'll either take Ocarina or tears

7:57

the kingdom or one of those stories and

7:59

adapt.

7:59

that

8:01

but yeah just the lie that I don't know how

8:03

you can get that look right without

8:05

it just looking off without it looking

8:07

stupid I don't know it was such

8:10

a if you look at the covers because

8:12

I think it will be if not a direct adaptation

8:15

but I think it will probably be closer to breath of the wild

8:17

and tears of the kingdom just because that's

8:19

where the mass popularity of Zelda at the moment

8:22

if you look at the world's stories is almost non-existent

8:25

if the world does have a story yeah it's

8:27

not a good one I don't want

8:30

a really decent little fairy stars

8:33

kind of post apocalypse I didn't love my point

8:35

is here

8:38

is that the front cover like the key art

8:40

for both of those games is genuinely gorgeous

8:43

it's this beautiful kind of like almost

8:45

watercolor like art style

8:48

and I don't

8:51

get why they're not so the the

8:53

producer of this film is avi arad right

8:55

like who has done has a very

8:58

storied career of ups and downs

9:00

you know has been at Sony for

9:02

a very long time if you like the maze runner no

9:05

that's a direct that's always gone yeah

9:07

sorry I'm so that the producer has

9:09

done all of your spider-man he is a long

9:11

and you've been and yes well this is a

9:14

very up-and-down career of good spider-man

9:16

films and absolutely dreadful

9:19

spider-man films so

9:21

very spotty but if there's

9:23

one thing that you can say for ariavard

9:25

is that kind of like he helped bring spider-verse

9:28

into into the world I just

9:30

don't get why they're not looking at spider-verse I'm

9:32

thinking let's use this animation

9:35

approach but

9:37

not you don't you don't have to have kind of

9:39

like the slightly kind of chunky animation that spider-verse

9:41

does but that kind of approach with lots of 2d

9:44

and 3d meaning with 2d textures

9:47

but in the art style that's on the front cover

9:49

of the Zelda games that absolutely

9:51

perfect for it I don't understand why they

9:53

want it to look like Michael

9:56

Seras Lincoln stuff and that's gonna be great

9:59

I'd watch that though. I'd watch that would be great.

10:02

I'd watch that as well as links would be good. Just the

10:04

idea of links speaking just like push

10:06

it. I mean for as long as people

10:09

talked about a Zelda film right they've talked about like

10:11

a Miyazaki art style which seems

10:14

like it would be perfect. I mean that's the dream scenario

10:16

but that's just not going to happen is it? Well

10:18

Miyazaki would never. Just watch Princess Mononoke

10:20

instead. Yeah and obviously I don't think Ghibli would

10:22

ever do it but also there are plenty of people that have

10:24

left Ghibli and have you know have gone

10:27

on to do their own work. I think that

10:29

would have been a perfectly good approach

10:31

but I'm worried

10:33

it's going to feel like really American

10:36

fantasy. I just

10:38

can't wait for the soundtrack like because we

10:40

mentioned it in a meeting I think you did where like modern

10:42

pop songs and shit. Well that's like

10:45

I really don't like the Mario film at all. Like I love

10:47

the art of it and I think that it's a beautiful

10:49

representation of what Mario is

10:51

from an artistic standpoint but

10:54

I didn't like the story and I particularly don't like

10:57

any bit where it drops a pop song into

10:59

it. Yeah, Bonnie Tyler's going to be in it

11:01

for sure. I mean you've got so much great

11:03

Zelda music with him a crime not to use

11:05

that right. They're going to have him on a poner

11:07

running through like Hyrule

11:10

Field towards like where Zelda's

11:12

held up in a castle with Bonnie Tyler

11:14

playing. Like I could see it already. Honestly

11:16

like if they just made like a dumb sort

11:18

of shrecified version of

11:21

The Legend of Zelda I'd be happy with that. Oh,

11:24

our crime is asleep. You're not even that

11:26

attached to Zelda and I still hate it. Live

11:30

action's a weird choice. We'll see how that develops. Who

11:32

knows? Could be pleasantly surprised.

11:34

The kids will enjoy it.

11:37

You'd hope. You'd

11:39

hope. One thing the kids

11:41

won't be enjoying Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 because

11:43

they shouldn't be playing it because

11:45

it is an 18 rated game. Is

11:48

it 16, 18? No, so 18. I don't

11:51

know. It's absolutely an 18. No, I mean no

11:53

one should be playing this game. Call

11:56

of Duty. I think it's bad to say we all

11:58

have a shared love for Call of Duty. over

12:00

the years, it's provided some of the best

12:03

first person shooter campaigns available. Modern

12:07

Warfare 3 came out this year. It's

12:10

so bad. It really

12:12

is just like chronic. Maybe before

12:15

we go any further, I almost think that this

12:17

has to be contextualised a little bit

12:19

with the situation. Modern

12:21

Warfare 3 has been made by Sledgehammer, who

12:25

a long time ago, well I say a long time ago,

12:28

only within the last year. Since Modern Warfare 2 came

12:30

out, there was a rumour that the next

12:32

game was actually going to be just an expansion

12:34

to Modern Warfare 2. Then

12:37

that got turned into a full premium release. It

12:40

turns out that the whole story of this, according to Bloomberg,

12:42

who have been chatting to people on the inside, is

12:45

that originally Sledgehammer were developing

12:48

Advanced Warfare 2. That was their original

12:50

plan. Then they got told, no, you're

12:53

going to go off and you're going to make an expansion for Call

12:55

of Duty Modern Warfare 2. Then

12:57

they got told, actually no, can you turn that

12:59

into a full campaign.

13:02

Originally, seven months maybe?

13:04

Well, so I think in the end they had 16 months

13:08

to make it, something like that. But

13:10

originally, this expansion apparently was just

13:13

going to be set in Mexico. It was going to be part

13:15

of the Modern Warfare 2 storyline. Which none

13:17

of this campaign takes place in. Yeah, so

13:19

basically all of this has been

13:21

forced to have been made in

13:23

a year

13:26

and a half basically. That is the

13:28

context for why it is the worst.

13:30

My heart bleeds for Sledgehammer because

13:32

many of

13:36

the things that we're about to slag it off for

13:39

probably isn't their fault. Exactly.

13:42

I always like to pretty much... I never like

13:44

to have good developers because no

13:47

one sets out to make a bad game. The

13:49

conditions have been

13:52

put in here to make this game far, far,

13:54

far from ideal. But still

13:57

have to critique the end result. That's what I did. Gave it a 4 out

13:59

of 10. And by far the

14:01

lowest scoring Call of Duty campaign we've

14:03

ever given. And I've

14:06

had more time to think about it now. I think it's easily

14:08

the worst Call of Duty campaign I've ever played. Mainly

14:11

because it barely makes a campaign

14:13

because they're in... There's the

14:16

odd cutscenes in between basically sections

14:19

of DMZ and Warzone map. Like

14:22

there's maybe off top

14:24

of my head two missions that are kind of constructed

14:27

like a traditional single player level like

14:29

you'd go through and do stuff. Whereas

14:31

the rest of them are just going this little like

14:33

I don't know 100m square section

14:36

of Vodansk and destroy

14:39

three tanks and then leave. That's

14:41

not what the Call of Duty campaign

14:43

is. It's like the multiplayer-fication

14:45

of it all. And I think I've never really

14:47

messed around with Warzone either so I didn't recognise

14:50

the immediate landmarks that other people would have clocked

14:53

and stuff. And I think a total of six

14:55

sections of Vodansk in

14:57

this campaign and there's what, 14 missions? So

14:59

pretty much half of it is locations you've been to before.

15:02

One of them they kind of to be fair do something a bit

15:04

interesting with and in a way you've not seen

15:07

it before. And

15:09

would work I think in a different campaign there

15:11

is the odd mission here that would work in context

15:13

with others. But like to call it

15:15

a campaign is just so... It can

15:17

be finished in three hours. Yeah

15:19

like three and a half to four hours it took me. There

15:23

is basically the story is they've

15:26

brought back Makarov who was like the

15:28

villain from the original Modern Warfare trilogy.

15:30

Like a great villain, one of my favourite villains

15:33

in video games and kind of reduced him to a caricature

15:36

in this game. Who's kind of... I

15:40

don't know quite what he's trying to do. He kind of tries to repeatedly

15:42

do terrorist attacks but then fail. He's kind

15:44

of like, I don't know he's kind of like a wily

15:47

coyote of terrorism. Like you just get

15:49

stopped at every step

15:51

and you never really learn

15:53

about his character you just know he's out there

15:55

trying to cause mayhem basically. And

15:58

then... campaign

16:00

just ends? Like three

16:02

hours of like very mediocre

16:05

gameplay, bad cut scenes and then

16:07

the game just ends? And when you say that like the game

16:10

literally does just end I almost

16:12

thought when you get to that particular I know

16:15

crescendo moment almost I thought

16:17

oh this is leading into the act like the third

16:19

act of the campaign yeah but it

16:22

literally

16:23

just ends. It's just everything I called you your

16:25

campaign shouldn't be and we've talked about

16:27

this a lot I mean Matt you have a video going

16:29

live today about how the original Modern

16:31

Warfare from 2007 was

16:35

still is the pinnacle of that series

16:37

campaign wise and I've been replaying it

16:39

this week I've like two-thirds through I mean

16:41

it's only what five hours long so I'm most of the way there but

16:44

it still is just remarkable how good that

16:46

game is and it's just shows the difference

16:49

between this latest one and that one like

16:51

just like replaying again just how

16:53

each mission is like so different

16:56

like you are doing something different each time

16:59

that's just sense of cinema just isn't there

17:01

in this new one like coincidentally

17:04

I watched Black Hawk Down

17:06

this week I've never actually seen Black Hawk Down

17:08

before I mean the first time I ever watched it. Inspiration

17:11

for that. Exactly so I was watching it and I was like

17:13

oh this is just the crash map and

17:15

the walk like the whole like shock

17:18

and awe section from a call of duty like

17:20

I could see basically they'd watch that

17:22

film hadn't they but

17:24

yeah it's just like you try and like

17:27

see what are the inspirations for Modern Warfare 3 and I couldn't

17:29

pick you out anything apart from we

17:31

didn't have time we've got the assets for

17:33

the dance let's stage a few missions

17:35

there and hope for the best. Even just thinking like how

17:37

was

17:38

Modern Warfare 3 inspired

17:40

from prior call of duties and

17:42

stuff you know you look at the original trilogy or even you

17:45

know prior cod entries and this ties back

17:47

to the feature

17:49

you did recently Matt how Call of Duty

17:51

reinvented the first-person shooter and that really

17:54

I never realized it much as a kid but why

17:56

it was so fun to play Call of Duty is what is that you

17:58

felt like your AI squad mates were like like you know the

18:00

most important part

18:01

of those missions and how you know even

18:03

just having their name and then sometimes you

18:06

know the health might go from green to yellow and

18:08

then you might have that little connection with that one aim for

18:10

no reason. I feel like Cod 4L it's

18:12

remarkable just how many people go down around

18:14

you sometimes you are left alone. Yeah but

18:16

but with Modern Warfare 3 this version

18:19

you are always just fighting by yourself and

18:21

it and it just sticks out like a sore thumb. There's

18:24

like maybe two missions in the entire

18:26

campaign where you have like squads with

18:28

you and it feels more distinctly like an original

18:30

campaign but it's especially weird

18:33

because like it feels like more than ever they're trying to build a

18:35

connection between like oh you you love ghosts,

18:37

soap and gas and people don't you. They're

18:39

trying to build that but then they do nothing to do that until

18:42

the end where they try and like shock

18:44

you I think. And also considering that there's

18:46

a more you know there's more

18:48

of an effort to make the well

18:50

there seems to be an effort to create that kind

18:53

of bond. There's A they're never

18:55

around you and a lot of it is just very banal

18:57

radio chatter. Yeah.

19:00

But also kind of like some of the the

19:02

choices they make with the characters so for example

19:04

kind of like Kate Laswell who is your

19:07

CIA handler she's the kind of person

19:09

that's you know deciding what task

19:11

force 141 does and all of that. This

19:14

game weirdly decides that she's now a field

19:16

agent and one of the worst missions

19:18

in this game is where you

19:20

basically it's it's the kind

19:23

of like demanded stealth mission

19:25

where you go in undercover dressed as kind

19:28

of like an enemy and you've got to

19:30

walk around doing like small

19:33

tasks but the

19:35

the kind of like detection

19:38

AI system in that is effectively

19:40

all or nothing they've spotted you or they haven't.

19:43

Yeah. And so walking I think you pointed

19:45

this out in your review card like walking within six feet

19:47

of them seems to just be an instant

19:49

detection regardless of what you're behaving like and

19:51

you're on a military

19:53

base like people have you know shit to do in places

19:56

to go if you dare run at an

19:58

abnormal speed they instantly start shooting.

19:59

And this like that

20:02

mission in a nutshell is something that's wrong with game

20:05

stealth wise But it seems like every mission they try and

20:07

set you up to play it stealthily This game isn't

20:09

built for stealth. You can't let you point out that you can't

20:11

even do takedowns in half of the missions Yeah,

20:14

and if you are discovered like it's

20:16

pretty much impossible to get back into stealth light

20:19

You make one noise and suddenly everyone on that

20:21

map knows exactly where you are. No

20:23

sense. There's also weird things so I

20:26

think we probably discussed this last year because obviously

20:28

I For modern

20:30

warfare 2 was pretty mediocre

20:32

like it It wasn't

20:34

my favorite Call of Duty map. Sorry campaign

20:37

boy I buy a distinct margin But

20:39

I think one of the things that we had discussed about is like

20:41

it's about time that Call of Duty started trying to find

20:44

Other ways to kind of use its brand And

20:47

one of the things that I think is I do think it

20:49

needs a little bit more kind of openness and

20:51

I think if you if I could point to a an

20:53

element that suggests that they could do it, it's

20:56

the Lights out

20:58

mission from modern warfare 2019 which

21:01

gave you multiple objectives and a much larger

21:04

campaign map To do in

21:06

the order that you decided Now

21:09

obviously because this is all on just chunks

21:11

of war zone It's those

21:14

maps were not designed for campaign

21:16

flow Whereas whilst lights

21:19

out was more open it was designed

21:21

for campaign flow So you've got kind

21:23

of the feel of a Call of Duty mission, which

21:25

you don't get here, but also When

21:28

you create these more open areas, you're

21:31

essentially inviting someone to start in

21:33

stealth Quite

21:36

often you don't get given the weapons

21:38

that you need to perform stealth from

21:41

the opening of the mission I mean you find

21:43

a kill streak where it's just like oh you start

21:45

the mission stealth and then I the first kill streak I found

21:47

was just like an airstrike from a jet and

21:49

I was like well, that's just gonna break everything But but this

21:51

is my point So they give you weapons that are not really

21:54

adept for you starting in stealth And

21:56

then so what you have to do you have to do the DMZ slash

21:58

war zone thing of like the loop is I'm

22:01

now going to walk around this map trying

22:03

to find boxes that are

22:06

inexplicably just hold up

22:09

with color graded loot and

22:11

different kill street rewards to

22:13

then hopefully find the stuff I want

22:15

to be able to suit my play style and

22:17

then basically if I get killed along

22:20

the way well at least I get to start the entire

22:22

mission again but I get to keep

22:24

all of the equipment that I already it also

22:27

just makes like no narrative

22:30

sense why are these like why

22:32

are these top tier like best of the best soldiers

22:34

dropping into these areas with no equipment

22:36

for the job like what are

22:38

they doing so one

22:41

of the slightly better of these

22:44

war zone style ones is I don't actually think it is

22:46

from war zone at least I don't ever remember it so

22:48

one where you start like in the water and you get to

22:50

go up and there's kind of like this beautiful almost

22:52

like yeah it's almost like a tropical resort

22:55

yeah with like an Iron Man style it looks like a

22:57

hitman level yeah yeah very much and

22:59

it does start you with silence weapons but none

23:01

of them have scopes on them or sites

23:04

and it's like what high-end

23:07

top like operative

23:10

goes into this mission without a

23:12

site on there which meant that it

23:14

was much more difficult for me to adopt

23:16

a good silence place model and

23:18

the map what did never felt like it was built

23:21

for close encounters and also you can't

23:23

effectively do takedowns on people so

23:26

it's not like you can do it as a sort of dishonor

23:28

D style like move from person by person

23:30

they could have done like and obviously go never

23:32

go too much because obviously they didn't have the time to implement

23:34

it maybe they had great ideas somebody's lazy enough

23:36

time to do it but like I was playing for admission I was like

23:39

I'd be so cool right now if there was like a

23:41

way I could like because I was playing through cod for

23:43

I was like if I could turn off all the

23:45

lights on this result they'd like trigger some night vision

23:47

and go through there like I can't shoot the bulbs

23:49

out or anything I know it's like I don't

23:52

think you use night vision once in this campaign

23:54

and for me that's like modern warfare

23:56

is like you definitely do

23:58

at the start and then yeah Oh, that very first

24:01

mission, right? Yeah, you do. But

24:03

it's limited in terms of like

24:05

the The touch points

24:07

that we'd expect of modern warfare. They are definitely

24:09

limited throughout this company There's no like

24:11

we said, there's just it's just kind of incoherent.

24:14

There's no flow It's just nothing

24:16

happens during the missions really apart from

24:18

one or two Like where there's events like that

24:21

the stadium mission kind of things happen around

24:23

you but like saying playing

24:25

through the old cuts it's like End

24:28

of mission like things would happen like you were doing

24:30

that story whereas this time it's like let's cut to

24:32

a cutscene and they still To

24:34

their credit the cutscenes still some of the most

24:36

beautifully rendered cutscenes i've ever seen in my life

24:38

They've got nothing to say but also much

24:41

much less of the actual characters in these cutscenes

24:44

Because I think you can tell that they've really struggled

24:47

a lot more of the cutscenes now are those like

24:49

digital maps Yeah, kind of like

24:52

codex uh style, uh dialogue

24:54

bits coming up Whereas

24:56

the original modern warfare you're effectively

24:59

watching miniature movies with like these beautifully

25:01

rendered thing and they Scaled that back a

25:03

lot for this one It really is

25:05

just talking of characters by the way. Why the

25:08

hell is uh, general shepherd

25:10

and graves Just in this those

25:13

characters that did not appear to have been the most

25:15

traitorous Yeah, I I thought

25:17

really confused me. I can't remember the the ending

25:20

of modern warfare too I thought I I

25:22

thought at the end of warfare 2

25:25

that graze had died i'd forgotten that he was still around

25:28

um But yeah, he was still just like

25:30

completely He should be in prison for life

25:32

or like like what's going on? But yeah,

25:34

there seems to be no coherency of

25:36

character building in this or coherency

25:39

of story It feels all over

25:41

the place. Um, which I guess leads

25:43

us to um, no

25:46

russian Which is kind

25:48

of just like I wrote in my review. It's like I

25:51

was I was ready for them to I

25:53

was even ready to praise it for doing a great job

25:55

at recreating one of the most Effective missions

25:57

ever put in a first person shooter, right? And

26:00

I was controversial at the time, but I'm on the side

26:02

of highly effective, says

26:04

the story very well. This time around,

26:06

they kind of do it twice,

26:09

kind of, but neither of them really

26:13

have consequence or

26:15

say anything. And they kind of feel

26:17

like they're just there, it's like, we've got Makarov,

26:19

well we have to do that sort of thing

26:22

again. Where we put you in the position

26:24

of an innocent person. Yeah, well this

26:27

is a massive problem with the Modern Warfare

26:29

trilogy. Well, I guess it feels

26:31

like it's going to turn into a quadrology of

26:34

some description. But I think the

26:36

original Modern Warfare, sorry, not original,

26:38

of this reboot series, so Modern Warfare 2019, I

26:41

think is genuinely fantastic. Really set up

26:43

an amazing kind of foundation

26:45

for what could have been an exceptional set of

26:47

games. Modern Warfare 2

26:50

from last year kind of fell

26:53

into this thing that was like, oh we need to take a

26:55

lot of the things that you remember from Call of Duty

26:57

and retread them. Which is why you get two

26:59

AC 130 missions, it's why you get an

27:02

all gilded up clone, it's why you get a crew

27:04

expendable clone. And then this one

27:06

again, it's like, well we've got to have Makarov back. And

27:10

so that means we've got to do No Russian. Now the original

27:12

No Russian, yes, is very

27:14

very complicated. And there's a lot

27:17

of very good points, negative and pro for that

27:19

mission. But what it is, is it comes

27:21

at the almost very start of the game. And

27:24

it makes you very morally question the position

27:27

of the United States and why they'd let that happen.

27:29

But B, it is the catalyst for

27:32

Makarov beginning World War 3 and it's

27:34

the catalyst for the

27:36

Russians invading America. It

27:39

is, there's a lot of talk

27:43

about like false flag operations in this

27:45

and blaming certain

27:47

terrorist attacks on certain other nations. Never

27:50

does it come through as the actual

27:53

point of the plot of this game. And

27:55

that's why I wrote my video, it's like, obviously

27:57

you can't blame Sledgehammer for what's happened in the world.

28:00

right now or them knowing that, you

28:02

know, we'd currently be at this heightened state

28:04

of like information wars

28:06

and terrorism, like coming to the forefront.

28:09

But you know, it's been a big part of our world for

28:11

the whole of this millennium, right? So like

28:15

the original more, I'm not saying the original modern

28:17

warfare trilogy handled these in the most subtle ways,

28:20

but it did at least try and say something,

28:22

I think. Whereas, and even modern warfare 2019

28:25

did try to say something about chemical warfare,

28:27

whether you think it's successful in that or not. And

28:30

destabilization and ultra nationalism, all of

28:32

those elements were part of that. Whereas

28:34

this one, it's kind of like, they've just gone,

28:37

oh, here's these issues, but

28:39

not said anything about it. It's kind of like, I didn't

28:41

want to go too harsh. Like my original draft said

28:43

it's irresponsible. I don't think it's irresponsible. It's kind of just like,

28:46

think about like when you're using these subjects

28:48

that are affecting real people on a daily

28:51

basis for pure entertainment or shock

28:53

value, but they're not trying to say anything.

28:56

I don't think you're being harsh

28:58

saying it's irresponsible. We

29:01

are currently in an era where false flag

29:04

is waved around by all sorts of lunatic

29:06

conspiracy theorists all the time. And

29:08

so to do a story about false flag operations

29:11

where you blame a marginalized

29:13

kind of region of the world for

29:16

all your terrorism attacks, I do

29:18

think it could be considered irresponsible for

29:20

what they're doing in the story. Yeah.

29:25

It's just, I think that's just like the

29:27

whole problem is campaign as a whole that I came

29:29

away thinking it's just like, just

29:32

like compared to how thrilling they

29:34

used to be. It was just like vacuous. It

29:36

was just like, there was just nothing to it. Like

29:39

nothing to them. And no memorable missions,

29:42

no memorable story, the same characters

29:45

used in a worse way. Like I just, I

29:47

would just like, not often do I actually actively encourage

29:49

people to not buy something. But like, if

29:52

you are someone who looks forward to cold campaigns every year

29:54

and like in no way

29:56

on earth is this worth you paying 70 quid

29:59

for. to play four hours of some

30:01

of the worst first-person shooter campaign missions

30:04

you'll play like in all honesty

30:07

like for all the multiplayer zombies I haven't

30:09

played yet could be very good fun if you're into it

30:11

for that yeah go ahead but like if

30:13

you are someone who more

30:16

like I am these days just looks forward to the campaigns

30:19

like this just it really is not worth

30:21

it but yeah it's so

30:23

sad because you know often

30:26

people say like oh call of duty campaigns they're

30:28

terrible a small handful

30:30

of them aren't very good

30:31

but like so many of them are so good

30:34

like I think I think people just forget how many

30:36

things were memorable those old campaigns

30:38

whether you're you know it's all gillied

30:40

up or you know after math with you

30:42

know the new going off in call of duty for even

30:45

crossing like the vulgar river and stuff in the

30:47

original call of duty there's so many memorable

30:50

moments and highlights even you know whether

30:52

it's betrayals or character deaths and whatnot

30:55

but you you really just get

30:57

none of that and it's sad to see

30:59

the setup that 2019 did to the sort of

31:01

I don't know middle in fall that

31:04

bottom warfare 2 had I end up I don't remember you saying maybe

31:06

it's time we took a year or two off but next

31:10

year's is being has been

31:12

in development I think for three years if I'm

31:14

thinking right so maybe you know we can have

31:16

higher hopes for next year's call yeah I mean it's

31:18

been a long time since Treyarch actually had

31:20

a campaign come out right because obviously Treyarch's

31:23

previous game was Black Ops Cold War in which Raven

31:25

did the the

31:28

the campaign and yes they obviously they

31:30

were actually given a similar time frame to

31:32

this but they knew from the start

31:35

that they needed to make a campaign they weren't thinking

31:37

that they were making expansion I think that's a pretty good campaign I

31:40

love Black Ops Cold War it's really short

31:42

yes it's only about five or six missions long but

31:44

those five or six missions are all individual

31:46

concepts the bit where you're in the Spetsnaz

31:49

training facilities one of the best missions that the cod

31:51

had never done um the the break

31:53

into the Kremlin really fun yeah

31:57

yeah really good this one sadly

32:00

not it's always an auto moon

32:02

for like 20 minutes about

32:04

a game but sometimes she's gotta do it

32:06

if it's not very good do you

32:09

what else we gotta talk about thirsty

32:12

suitors I've been playing a bit of this the roof of you

32:14

a check top I'm not heard of it at all not

32:16

but I thought it would be on your radar

32:18

Jesse it is essentially

32:21

a South Asian

32:25

version of the Scott Pilgrim story set

32:27

in Seattle or the surrounding areas

32:30

of Seattle in America and

32:32

the easiest pitch for this game is the Scott

32:34

Pilgrim story of this girl Jala coming

32:36

back to town and all of her exes

32:39

I wouldn't say they're necessarily evil exes because it kind

32:41

of paints her more as the person who's the problem

32:43

and they're gonna I mean she's got a result

32:45

she's definitely oh yeah yeah but you

32:47

know it was framed as the evil exes right whereas

32:50

this one I feel like it's more conscious of oh maybe Jala's

32:52

the problem here but the gameplay

32:54

is basically persona mixed with

32:57

Tony Hawk

32:58

that sounds sick

33:00

in theory I've been looking for this game for a long time

33:02

in theory right up my alley very good

33:05

I think it's alright if that's all a

33:07

game of like I can tell I'm not competing to it so I'll

33:09

play half an hour and I'm like that's me done

33:11

I think I'll play half an hour more tomorrow it's

33:15

I like the tone of it it's very Scott Pilgrim

33:17

it's very like I imagine like

33:20

the way I can scrub it's got a bit of that life is strange

33:23

the easiest shorthand is like Dale will hate this

33:25

game he's probably listen to this all

33:27

look to this game and go yeah not for me it's got

33:29

that sort of vibe to it of very

33:31

like Gen Z everyone talks like that

33:34

and it's all over the top like everyone like front

33:36

flips into like downstairs and

33:38

stuff like that it's like it's very cartoonish

33:41

over the top the way the game plays it up when

33:43

you say it's not a Dale game like sort of puts

33:45

in a very narrow category when

33:47

you so the gameplay is kind of like you're going

33:50

around this small town talking to people

33:53

and you skate around town for the most part and you

33:55

also do skate challenges the

33:57

problem is like it's

33:59

skating is just not and the save it's

34:01

called like it just never reaches what it's trying

34:04

to like wait

34:07

like has so much reverence for like the Tony Hawk

34:09

games like it never feels that good to skate

34:11

around and do tricks it feels okay

34:14

well I think this is for me like a forest seven

34:16

out of ten games it's good fun but it's not it's

34:19

like and I say it's made by small team it's an indie

34:21

game so I'm not like going in too hard but

34:23

like it doesn't don't go into this thinking you're

34:26

gonna get like Tony Hawk style like tricks

34:28

like building and like great like map design

34:30

because they're all very like small little maps

34:33

and stuff like that but then there's also the battle

34:35

side which comes into it which is basically kind

34:37

of a bit like persona you have

34:41

and it has like some interesting tweaks to

34:43

it so like it's not just turn based

34:45

combat there's a bit more of an active side

34:47

to it so when you send in a tackle defend it

34:49

you have to do quick time events like

34:52

you can even hit like good or super or bad

34:54

to like you'll do more damage

34:57

points or it'll take less

34:59

damage if you time those rights there is a bit more

35:01

you can't just sit back and turn base it but

35:04

the interesting tweak is like it very much leans into

35:06

the whole thirsty suicide of everyone

35:09

you fight is kind of thirsty

35:11

for you or or you can choose

35:13

to be thirsty for them if you want and

35:15

like you have different ways of like doing

35:18

debuffs so you can do different taunts such

35:20

as you can make them thirsty for you

35:22

you can enrage them you can impress them

35:25

and that makes them vulnerable to different attacks

35:27

you have but you don't know

35:29

which you kind of have

35:31

to first use those taunts but sometimes

35:33

your enemies those taunts will be ineffective

35:35

again so you kind of have to work out which or fighting

35:38

them to a certain a little bit like that yes kind of like

35:40

insults so fighting crossed with persona

35:42

combat but again it's just never quite

35:44

as satisfying as persona

35:47

combat is kind of every of our every

35:50

fight kind of goes the same way it's just attack

35:52

used on attack used like you know you're

35:55

kind of there's at least I'm only

35:57

what two hours in I think it's

35:59

not developed too much at this stage and I don't

36:01

think it will from what I've seen. The

36:03

story is kind of cool and I imagine like I don't

36:06

want to speak for anyone from that from like

36:08

an Indian or Sri Lankan like background but

36:10

your parents in the game one's Indian one Sri Lankan

36:12

you do a lot of cooking of the sort of the food of that

36:14

culture and I imagine if you're like

36:17

you know it's a kind of a culture that we

36:19

had Fender was it earlier this year that represents

36:21

that part of the world it's not it's not

36:24

a kind of culture you see often in games so

36:26

it is nice to see and it's very comfy

36:28

you get a lot of the music kind of weird

36:31

music of sort of the music of that

36:33

area of the world crossed with like some Tony Hawk

36:35

style like I don't know like zebra

36:37

head style music and

36:39

like it's just it's kind

36:41

of I like playing it but it's not really

36:44

I don't know if I'll finish it because the

36:46

story is kind of interesting the combat's

36:49

kind of good the skating's kind

36:51

of good but none of it's really there's not that one

36:54

thing yet that's gripping me to be like I want to

36:56

carry on player but it is on game pass so if

36:58

you want to try it out I'd recommend it I'm

37:00

not quite sure how long it is but it doesn't feel like

37:02

it's over you long but yeah it's

37:04

a nice little nice little game can you actually

37:07

can you romance your

37:09

exes or is it or design that there

37:11

you I'm kind of learning this

37:13

at the moment you can kind of do like you

37:15

build them back into like your contact book

37:17

on your phone and you can kind of do side missions

37:20

and I think you can like gradually start

37:22

building bonds back with some of them and

37:24

they also like like you can use your mum

37:26

and your auntie as like summons I think you can build

37:29

bonds travel like summons and like there's some

37:31

really over-the-top stuff like your mama

37:33

just appears like a 200 foot thing with

37:35

like a slipper like

37:38

it's got a lot of charm and style and it's quite

37:40

nicely written and quite funny but yeah

37:43

just the gameplay at the moment it's not hooking me in so

37:46

like I said like I'm playing like half an hour spells

37:48

and being like okay I've had my fill for now but yeah

37:50

I check out thirsty suits if you're looking for something different

37:53

especially if you have game paths hmm

37:57

last night you know what I finally watched have you guys heard

37:59

of the deepest breath I'm not it

38:01

was a documentary that came out earlier this year on

38:04

Netflix done with a 24 I

38:06

think and they want to watch it for a while I've

38:08

just not been in the mood because it is

38:12

It's kind of still I only watch it last night, but I keep thinking

38:14

about it. It's kind of stuck with me. It's kind

38:16

of tragic It's beautiful. It's thrilling.

38:19

It's tense. It's kind of got a bit of all

38:22

of that but the Premises

38:24

and it's kind of all I think like 95% of

38:27

it like real-life footage as well with a couple

38:29

of reenactments for some obvious reasons, but It's

38:33

about these people if you do, you know the sport free

38:35

diving. Oh, yeah where

38:37

basically the Object

38:39

of free diving is in one

38:41

breath How far down can you

38:44

get into the ocean like to set

38:46

a world record and like become

38:48

the best in the world? I guess where people are going like

38:51

over a hundred meters down into

38:53

the this is the ultimate respect the sea filth It's

38:56

people going a hundred meters down into

38:58

like lagoons in the ocean on one single

39:00

breath for minutes at a time It's

39:03

that sort of extreme sport where you're like you would never

39:05

ever ever ever ever get me to do that

39:07

once Let alone these people who do it like a hundred

39:10

hundreds of times a year. Yeah, that'll be diving

39:13

Yeah, it's kind of got a bit of did you ever watch?

39:16

Um, oh, what's it called? The

39:18

climbing film free solo. Yeah, did

39:20

you ever watch that? It's kind of got a bit of that to

39:22

it as well It's that sort of thing of like I don't

39:24

know how these how this is gonna end for all

39:26

these people And like I said, it's

39:28

kind of got that sort of constant

39:31

tension of I don't know what's gonna happen to any of

39:33

these people Also, it's got like some

39:35

beautiful stories Like a great sense

39:37

of like people living their life the way they want

39:39

it But also like a good helping

39:41

of tragedy as well And it does because

39:44

I literally didn't read about any of

39:46

the people involved in the film So I don't know like the outcomes

39:48

but like it does and as much a real

39:51

story It kind of does a real good job of

39:53

until the very end not you not knowing

39:56

how this is gonna end Because

39:59

it doesn't For all the people involved in the film

40:01

it doesn't necessarily show

40:03

them being interviewed it just uses voices of people

40:05

and I would just if you're, by

40:08

no means a relaxing watch it's a

40:10

two hour quite tense documentary but it's

40:12

on Netflix if you want to check out the deepest ref. I

40:14

think it's probably the best documentary I've seen this

40:16

year. But yeah I'd

40:19

recommend that if you want to. You guys been watching anything

40:21

this week? No

40:23

I re-watched Robocop just because

40:25

I've been playing a bit of the game. Oh yeah actually I haven't

40:27

done that. I've been meaning to do that because I've been watching

40:30

it for 15 years. It's really good. I

40:32

know that kind of like we're at the moment in

40:34

a bit of a not

40:37

a groove like an anti-groove with where kind

40:39

of a lot of big kind of like

40:41

popcorn films are going right? All of

40:43

us feel like we've fallen off the MCU ladder

40:45

a bit. Watching this and I know

40:47

that it's not in the same category

40:49

because it's a very very violent 18 rated

40:52

film but it was still of kind

40:54

of like that big kind of popcorn moment of

40:56

like the late 80s. It just

40:58

feels like they did it. This is me being

41:00

a grumpy old man now. It just feels like they did it so much

41:03

better back then. Like it's practically

41:05

a faultless film. It's just it's a really good

41:07

satire. It's really well paced.

41:10

The music's great. The effects are brilliant.

41:12

I just had a really good time with it.

41:14

I need to watch it again. Did you have you guys finished

41:17

Gen B? No I've only watched the

41:19

first episodes. Oh it's really

41:21

good. Really worth watching. I

41:24

was I think we said it when the first episode launched. If you

41:26

forget how much I enjoyed the boys and that sort of tone

41:28

they set and it kind of it's pretty much the exact

41:30

same tone of the show right just with a

41:33

younger cast. Yeah. Yeah I

41:35

liked it. I get excited for the boys season

41:37

four. Yeah yeah definitely. Violent

41:40

and satire. But

41:42

yeah I can't wait for the boys season four

41:44

now. And I'll probably forget about it until it launches

41:46

and then be like oh I love the boys.

41:48

Have you guys really watched any of the boys like fully?

41:51

I feel like I'm in the mood now. I

41:54

don't feel like I need to. I don't feel like I need to necessarily.

41:56

That's fine. But yeah. What

42:00

have you been doing this week Jesse?

42:01

Tell us everything. It's

42:05

all hurt everyone's ears and probably

42:07

upset people greatly but me and my partner been

42:09

watching her keeping up with the Kardashians.

42:12

It's that coupled

42:14

with really awful Christmas Hallmark

42:16

movies. What is this? It's

42:18

November the 10th. What are you doing? There are

42:21

so many releases and it's genuinely surprising.

42:23

Why do you want to watch a Hallmark Christmas

42:25

movie? Like the epitome of

42:27

the world. Oh yeah I know that they're absolutely dog

42:29

shit but I think because we

42:31

usually watch like you know

42:34

really great new releases or go back to old films

42:36

that were always superb and stuff right but then we

42:38

just had this sort of feeling recently like we sort of just miss

42:40

watching like shitty TV like not

42:42

when you're like browsing through Netflix or just like literally

42:45

going on freeview and seeing what's on there and

42:47

how shit is and then just watching through a few

42:49

of those and they are. It's far too early for Christmas

42:51

films. Bad or good. I've been

42:54

going like I think the stores

42:56

local to me like shopping whatever like they're playing

42:59

Christmas music already.

43:01

It's too early not until December do I

43:03

allow it. I understand

43:05

an ironic hate watch once in a while

43:08

but like a multiple marathon

43:10

of lots of Hallmark Christmas movies. Keep

43:12

out with the Kardashians like how

43:14

far through are you? Well I mean my

43:17

partner's watched every season of that. Are you keeping

43:19

up? I'm trying to. There's

43:21

a lot to go through so far.

43:23

What have you learnt? What's your biggest? Who's

43:25

your favourite Kardashian?

43:26

Oh fuck. You

43:30

know what I've actually forgotten her name. Chloe

43:32

Courtney Kim. No not Kim.

43:34

Kylie Kendall. Shit I'm trying to you

43:36

know what I can't even remember. I genuinely can't

43:39

remember my name.

43:40

I'm trying to associate the name with

43:42

who they are and for some reason failing

43:44

to do that. You're

43:46

not going to remember their name. Okay there we go Chloe. There

43:49

we go. Okay it's good to know. That's

43:51

your Christmas present sorted. Chloe Kardashian

43:54

poster. Oh wow that's amazing thank you. Enjoy

43:57

that. Do you know what? win

44:00

now though is pride in the endless

44:02

search there's no prizes but god

44:04

is there some pride to be won we do have

44:06

a new theme as is the

44:08

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44:11

one is from Igor Sperati he

44:13

says good day IGNers I

44:16

have to come clean and admit I never really liked

44:18

the OGN the search tune boo

44:21

in fact I'd often skip forward 15 seconds

44:23

to avoid for it it's just rude so

44:26

here's what I've coupled together using my primitive

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it's a winner loving kisses and

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47:51

I would commend them for doing it on their phone. Yeah.

47:55

I prefer the OG one personally, but

47:57

I do like a bit of punk. It's a bit like, you know, remember...

48:00

the big machine from when you were a kid

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that was on TV. It's like they fed like the sex pistols

48:05

in one end and got this out the other.

48:08

Got a glowing review from that person there.

48:10

Who does actually have in the palm of his hand

48:13

today's game? What are we playing? I do. We're

48:15

playing a user submitted endless

48:17

search called the credits quiz from

48:20

Tom Anna who says, hi all,

48:22

I am writing with an endless search submission.

48:24

This one's simple. Guess the film based

48:26

on the lesser known credits. Five

48:28

points for guessing after one clue, four after

48:31

two, two blah, blah, blah. There

48:33

are five films each with five credits. No,

48:35

all of these clues are production.

48:38

None are roles or extra.

48:41

Have fun. Okay. Interesting.

48:43

So,

48:45

I guess you kind of have to use

48:48

kind of like the production roles

48:50

as a guess for what is involved

48:53

in said film. So

48:55

we'll start with film one.

48:59

The vehicle design was done

49:02

by fireball Tim Lawrence. Vehicle

49:06

design. That's not

49:08

a real name. It's not, no. Top

49:13

gun. Top gun.

49:15

Sorry. No. We'll move

49:17

on. If Cardi knows

49:20

anything, he knows a good

49:22

DOP, but does he know Dean Chundley?

49:25

That's correct for photography for anyone thinking

49:27

that's anything else by the way. Who

49:30

was that? Dean Chundley. Gene

49:33

Chundley? Yeah.

49:35

Oh, I don't know about that one.

49:37

I know it. Dean Cundey. Really?

49:39

Really?

49:41

Is it not that? Actually, I think you're probably right.

49:43

C-U-N-D-L-E-Y. Because he

49:46

was the director of Tokyo Jurassic Park. So I'm going

49:48

to say Jurassic Park. Ding, ding. There

49:51

we go. Cardi. Four points

49:53

to Cardi. You

49:56

love to hear it. Sorry. That's my

49:58

pronunciation wrong. It's always... When

50:00

you've never heard it said aloud Right

50:04

Carter he gets four Film

50:09

I got lucky there We

50:12

get the first aid

50:14

medic New Mexico unit

50:17

was Doug Sicario

50:23

I'm afraid it's not Sicario. No if any

50:26

film made in that part of the world

50:30

Oh

50:33

Captain Marvel

50:35

It's not Captain Marvel. No Okay

50:38

for four points the facial hair

50:40

maker was Carol Duran

50:44

facial hair maker So

50:47

I think a famous Beer

50:49

almost though. I don't know in New Mexico

50:52

and definitely had facial hair There'll

50:55

be blood not there will be

50:58

Oh

51:01

fuck me man. I'm not I'm not getting it all.

51:03

It's another one of those kind of games

51:06

Right, I'm gonna have to skip The

51:10

number three having this one's a

51:13

one that you might be able to get on directed by old

51:16

Chuckles brana That

51:21

knows it down to a few Film

51:24

with you've done New Mexico. Oh Oh

51:29

What is it we taking we are taking thought away

51:33

Is it for it is Thor Cardi

51:35

I Was

51:37

thinking my head Frankenstein his Frank's

51:39

house. I wasn't shot in New Mexico Did

51:42

he do death on the Nile? He did? Yeah,

51:44

right That's what I was gonna say and

51:46

that would I guess would have been a pretty good cuz but

51:49

did they shoot anything on location?

51:52

I didn't watch in that

51:54

always dreadful car. Yeah,

51:56

sorry. Okay, so

51:59

number three on

52:03

the trombone was

52:05

Robert Argente I

52:11

think I know what film this is and

52:13

I watched it

52:14

how do you know that from

52:16

the trombone? I'm trying

52:20

to think of a big

52:22

trombone film Whiplash! Oh

52:28

my god I feel like I know what film this is and it's

52:30

killing me I don't know how you think you

52:32

could know what film this is I'm certain it's a film that you watched

52:35

and also recommended

52:37

and it's stuck in my head Did

52:40

I go great trombone playing Robert

52:42

Argente? It's gonna make sense, it's gonna make sense

52:45

I do think that Jesse could know

52:47

this one and I think there is like a reasonable

52:49

reason why he would know who was on the trombone

52:51

Seems like a clue This is pissing me

52:54

off so much I cannot remember the stupid movie

52:56

film I've got four points The director of

52:58

photography for the lava

53:00

unit The lava unit? My

53:04

film has lava in it Oh that's

53:06

throwing me off a bit now The

53:09

only film I can fucking have in my head

53:12

Lava? And I'm gonna

53:14

say it if I can't think of it I'm a film with lava

53:16

in it

53:18

I would say my initial answer

53:20

was gonna be Babylon

53:22

Oh it's not... No, I don't

53:24

think there's any lava in Babylon No that's

53:27

why the first one threw me off a little bit A

53:29

lava... what was that? It's

53:32

not fucking the latest Spy Kids is it? It's

53:36

not, no They had lava in that, it was

53:38

awful That's just, I'd say Spy Kids 3D with

53:40

the one film out of my head Why do we both

53:43

use lava? That's my guess Spy Kids

53:45

3D It's not, no, okay for three

53:47

points The horse wrangler was

53:50

John Scott So

53:52

this film has lava and horses Lava and

53:54

horses And trombones

53:57

in it's score Lava, horses

53:59

and trombones

53:59

I

54:04

think maybe the lava

54:06

wasn't a big part of the film just

54:09

I don't think this has lava in it I think

54:11

it's just a hot temple

54:13

of doom I'm a great laughter in

54:16

it that would fit all of it though yeah

54:18

probably would no

54:22

any any guesses Jesse I can't

54:25

think of a film that has lava and horses

54:27

and trombones like it's so fucked I know you're

54:29

paying because

54:33

I'm terrible at these sort of things but like

54:36

I know that you know this film okay

54:41

number two for two points the

54:44

film in the credits it dedicated

54:46

the film to Bill and Joan Jackson

54:51

the king it is return of the king

54:55

that's the one you're gonna got Jesse it's all gone for

54:58

you now see ya see

55:00

you in Mordor I've

55:04

got lucky of guessing the right one there but I suppose that's the most

55:07

lava heavy one in my head yeah the

55:09

third one that's probably lava in all three

55:11

right I think so yeah but it's almost

55:13

certainly was all shot at the same time wasn't it

55:15

they did all that other takes although I was

55:18

thinking night of the museum just because like

55:20

it will have some shit music it would have

55:22

horses in the museum and probably some stupid lava

55:24

thing I've never seen night of the

55:26

museum neither of I what I

55:28

have learned there is I didn't realize that the lava

55:30

and return of the king was actually lava I

55:33

always assumed that would have been CG'd but no

55:35

they got a load of lava yeah there

55:38

was something I wrapped in at the time when

55:40

they went and shot it well

55:43

there we go okay film

55:45

for which I'm afraid Cardi has

55:47

basically won it unless you can get

55:49

the next two on the first go so

55:53

things have happened the documentary

55:55

cameraman for kissing footage was

55:58

Mike Ealy Kissing

56:01

footage. documentary

56:03

footage. That's

56:06

an odd credit, isn't it? Kissing

56:08

footage. So these are all quite difficult

56:12

because of the nature of the quiz but what

56:14

I will say is it's quite illuminating as to

56:16

what roles there are in film production. documentary

56:18

footage inside a film?

56:22

or this is a documentary? Uhhh I'm

56:26

fucked. I don't know, I'm just

56:28

going to have to pass. Uhhh,

56:31

number four point. Portugal Cast

56:33

Inc. was Camilla, Valentine,

56:36

A Sola. Pffffff.

56:40

A bit of a film set in Portugal. Uhhh.

56:44

I'll give you a minor clue on that. Not all of the

56:47

film is set in Portugal. Okay. And

56:49

might not be of any film that's gone but has

56:51

like Portugal used. I don't know. I

56:54

can't think of any films that I've... Oh man,

56:56

I'm... It's a game over.

57:00

Fast and the Furious 6 now. I

57:02

don't know. For

57:04

three points, the driver for Liam

57:06

Neeson was Simon Saunders. Ooooh. I

57:10

can't think of a fucking film where...

57:12

Aiken?

57:15

Oh. I went to a show for

57:17

more about Liam. You should always think

57:19

more about Liam. I was thinking that like,

57:22

that stupid ice film he does, I'd rather have

57:24

a unit in Portugal unless he's got like a daughter

57:26

in Portugal that's been fucking kidnapped. This

57:29

is bullshit.

57:30

I can't think of any Liam Neeson

57:33

fucking film other than taken one, two

57:35

or three. For two points, the prop

57:38

buyer for France was Jean-Paul

57:41

Bernard. A film

57:43

that has bits in France and Portugal and

57:45

has Liam Neeson in it.

57:48

Uhhh.

57:52

Would we have really the phantom menace film? What do you

57:54

say, the phantom menace? I

57:56

think there's a reasonable

57:59

chance that both of you... You have seen this because as a

58:01

minor clue the film has been out for a long time. Oh

58:12

Can't get my head away from fucking

58:21

Written by Richard Curtis Love

58:25

actually Yes, I've

58:27

not never seen I've never seen it. Have

58:29

you not? No, I've always just not

58:32

not fancy It's not good.

58:35

I wouldn't necessarily say but it is

58:37

a British icon. Oh Hugh

58:39

Grant's in it,

58:41

right?

58:41

For the final one this

58:44

for five points scientific consultant Alexander

58:48

Xavier ponce bonado.

58:51

Sorry but but not banano Ponce

58:55

but I know wait, what was the title? What was

58:57

the job the scientific consultant?

59:00

No

59:02

avatar no, okay number

59:05

four points the guitar coach was Paul

59:07

fuck me point

59:10

our coach

59:13

Try to think of a film that has that must be

59:15

a clue there must be a big guitar scene or something

59:17

in this film Oh, yeah, that's a nod from

59:21

Back to the future heavy Simon

59:26

I mean what other film giving up that's a

59:28

guitar scene that isn't like spinal

59:30

tap The

59:34

musical a few weeks ago and it's very good

59:37

so The actual

59:39

music in it is not great like none of the musical

59:41

numbers. I can't remember a single one, but as a stage

59:43

show Excellent and Markey

59:46

says a heavy 16 times across

59:48

the entire thing There

59:50

we go. Good stuff. No way I was gonna win

59:52

that man. Sorry. I enjoyed that game. Oh Mr.

59:57

Mr. Mr. Dean can't do coming

1:00:00

in big coffee. I would rule in

1:00:02

for you Jesse to get the return of the king one.

1:00:05

You let yourself down Jesse how does it feel?

1:00:08

I feel okay now. The form when

1:00:10

you said that you the trombone one was in

1:00:12

your head I was like you're a man who I reckon would

1:00:14

know like a quarter of the the orchestra

1:00:17

that did the Lord of the Rings.

1:00:19

Yeah that's fair. I'm gonna treat

1:00:21

myself I've got the fork X then did a

1:00:23

blue razor Lord of the Rings that's gonna be my Christmas

1:00:25

treat I think. That was very good. All the

1:00:27

Lord of the Rings again. I can't wait

1:00:29

for that. I'm putting it off for snowy

1:00:32

days if we ever get them. Feedback

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1:00:49

is from Joey Anzalone he says dear

1:00:51

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to mention some of my favorite video game cheat

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1:01:05

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Mercenaries a bunch but I didn't remember that. Mercenaries

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I this is the one that just like triggered like a memory

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of like eight year old me in my head. My

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number one cheat code has to go to the one from

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1:01:51

into the inbox exactly like you said

1:01:53

transported back to being a kid. It's

1:01:56

also gone Easter egg in that game where

1:01:58

because I think near the end

1:01:59

Indiana Jones is up going through like some

1:02:02

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kind of shit and one of the teleports you can go

1:02:06

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the more it got on when you got there's

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like a yeti bit of fun remembering right? That

1:02:24

was quite hard remember Being

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me a pirate that spoke me back? Thank you very much. Joey

1:02:31

from Chattanooga, Tennessee I

1:02:34

wish I was from Chattanooga just so I

1:02:36

can say I'm from Chattanooga. There

1:02:38

we go Jesse what email

1:02:40

we got?

1:02:42

I just want to say why am I given the football ones,

1:02:44

but I know not This

1:02:46

is from Simon Weiss says hey love the show wanted to

1:02:48

share some football crisp selections

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Olly what's it?

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Watkin that's good. That's a good one. That's a good one They

1:02:58

these some good ones like the way we kind of I

1:03:00

thought we'd had all the ones sent in for these But these

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are actually some very good England

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footballer Crisp names.

1:03:07

There

1:03:07

you go. Got James Mattis.

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Oh and vinegar

1:03:11

that one kind of works Kind

1:03:13

of what so these just go over my head cuz I cannot

1:03:16

worry news that James Watson might be out

1:03:18

for a couple of months Which are very nice.

1:03:21

How if you're me? But

1:03:23

there we go got Oliver skips which I think is

1:03:25

a fairly obvious one Oliver skips is a good one He's

1:03:28

kind of I did you know a few years ago

1:03:30

had high hopes for all of us before you would be in England Regular,

1:03:32

I think you still a decent football, but you know not

1:03:35

quite hitting the heights I hope to you once had the

1:03:37

last names confusing me a little because I can't tell us

1:03:40

a miss There we go. I've a

1:03:42

very good now.

1:03:43

It's fixed Jude Jude

1:03:46

Bellingham and mustard.

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That's a good one That's

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excellent you must know you do you betling of this right no

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No, the best foot were on on the on the planet

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at the moment English and by a way No,

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it's spelling them now. Oh,

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no, it's spelling them now. Who has the highest

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number in FIFA? That's all I know. I

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don't know this year. Who has the highest number? Pribly is Mbappe

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this year. But Simon goes on to say respect

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the sea salt and vinegar. Thank

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you, Simon, for that. There we go. Very

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much. Good. I'm very

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jealous of Jude Bellingham and Mustard.

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Yeah, should have got that one earlier.

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Thank you very much. Matt, what have

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we got? We've got one from Dale

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Hall, who says, Hey, IGN UK,

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I hope everyone is well. I wanted to write

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and see if any of you have the same issue I have with

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the PS5 controller. I hadn't bought

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a PS5 up until now due to

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the cost, but I finally saved up enough to get

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one. And I couldn't wait any longer when Spider-Man 2

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came out. I'm about 15 hours into the game

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and I'm finding playing through it very difficult, but

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not because of the game. It's amazing, but

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I'm struggling due to the incredible pain of the PS5

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controller is giving me in both risks. Being

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a gamer for 25 years, I've never had any issues

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with Carpal Tunnel, including hours of Destiny

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raiding without stopping to pee. But

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my risks are shot after just 45

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minutes of Spider-Man sessions. I find the

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controller incredibly uncomfy

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and stiff to pee with. I'm really gutted as

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I have so many games that I want to play, including God

1:05:15

of War, Ragnarok. Have you lot or any

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of the listeners had any of these same issues?

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If so, any tips to help? My doc

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friend said play less games, but that would suck

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and shouldn't be a solution. Anyway, respectful.

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I had a bit of risk pain a few years

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ago. So I haven't found the PS5

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controller particularly problematic

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in that area. I do.

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Do you agree? Yeah. So since

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actually, weirdly, it's been since COVID

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kicked off, I have really

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suffered and it comes on

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and off. I do think the PS5

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controller contributes to

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this. I think I get it from typing,

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like, and I mainly from the

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way I lay down in my bed with my laptop

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and my wrist probably crooked. See,

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I'm a desk user for PC, I'm very

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old-fashioned in that way, but also I am getting...

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It's less typing than it's more playing games

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with mouse and keyboard now, that's what gives me the worst

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risk pain. However, I actually really struggle

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with Spider-Man, which is interesting, because in general,

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I find playing on a controller is

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better for my wrists and my fingers than

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it is a keyboard. But

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the thing that I think it is with Spider-Man is

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A, and my recommendation would be to actually

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go into the settings menu on

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your PlayStation and reduce, if

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you haven't already, Dale, reduce

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the tension on the adaptive

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triggers, because I think that is a

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big... Because you're having to put

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a lot of pressure... So you're using R2, you're swinging

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very much in that game, right? Yeah. But

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it's also... The other thing I find is it's

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using the face buttons as frequently as you

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do in Spider-Man, because you're constantly attack,

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attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, and so you're having to

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push... Yeah. The face buttons

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a lot, which really does pull on

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your thumb as you're lifting up from the stick

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onto the face. Because I don't get

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that with... So simultaneously

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with Spider-Man, I was also playing Liza P, and

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I didn't get anywhere near the... Well,

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quite honestly, none of the hand strain, because the attacks,

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because that uses a Dark Souls style setup,

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they're on your triggers and

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bumper buttons, which obviously are less...

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There's less strain and stretching with your hands,

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which obviously then that strain and stretching reaches down

1:07:23

into your wrists, which is where all of those muscles are

1:07:25

going. It makes sense to me,

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because the two games that gave it to me most were

1:07:30

always Overwatch, and that's because that's a lot

1:07:32

of triggers as well, and face buttons

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as well. But also, FIFA is the worst one for

1:07:36

me, because that is holding in R2 to

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sprint a lot of the time, and the face buttons to pass

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you and everything. And is FIFA now... Does that use

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adaptive triggers now? Yes,

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but I turned them off because it just doesn't need it whatsoever.

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I'd recommend, definitely, Spider-Man doesn't have

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a setting in the game to change the adaptive

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triggers, but if you go into the system

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menu on the PlayStation and reduce the adaptive...

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You can reduce it down and not have it... completely off

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but if you put it on its weakest one it's

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gonna be less like strain on your

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muscles to push it in. I wish

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there was a way that you could recalibrate all

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of the the buttons

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essentially in Spider-Man to use the

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bumpers as your kind of attack but

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because of the way it's set up too many things

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like rely on you using combinations

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of buttons and there's not a

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good way to recalibrate the controller

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so it's using less strenuous things. I

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feel like it's a particularly

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thick controller as well though. Pardon?

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Particularly thick controller compared to

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like DualShock 4 or even 3. Yeah

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it's got a bit of that, it's got a bit of heft. It's also like

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I am one of those people that I actually prefer the

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layout of the Xbox controller. I like

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the functionality of the

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PlayStation 5 controller a lot more because

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I do in the right points I do like

1:08:51

having those triggers I particularly like it in Call

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of Duty because it really makes the weapons feel good but

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I like the offset stick design and

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there are no third-party controllers

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for PlayStation there are actually any good basically

1:09:04

that have offset sticks. I will say all

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this is good as well but the thing that actually I did

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what maybe two or three years ago my wrist was in a

1:09:11

lot of pay whenever I play games and you can

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get for like 10 quid on Amazon I just bought a wrist

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splint for my hand and I slept with that

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for like two to three weeks and I actually pretty much

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cured it for me it did stop it hurting.

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I would recommend sleeping with a wrist splint

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for a couple of weeks if you if you can. Yeah I

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definitely do that the problem is is that you can't actually put

1:09:30

them on when you play because it prevents you from actually

1:09:32

holding the thing. It's more when you sleep and that's where

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it does the work. Yeah

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they are good I own there and I own

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wrist ice packs and I've

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got all sorts of fucking things to try out. I'm fully decked

1:09:44

out when you're playing. I'm falling apart

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basically unfortunately. What happens

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in your 30s Jesse look forward to it. Oh that's

1:09:50

fine. I'm always warmed up. Also

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definitely like if after you've had a

1:09:55

play session if they are feeling really bad there are plenty

1:09:57

of like good YouTube tutorials that give you kind of

1:09:59

like like wrist and finger exercises

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that I know it all sounds like

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very much like what your NAM would do with arthritis

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But it is very helpful But

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yeah I am I might my wrists are currently really

1:10:12

sore actually because I've been playing

1:10:14

through the Half-Life games again And so therefore

1:10:16

I've been using mouse and keyboard and that

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is not great for them Yeah, there

1:10:20

we go. Hopefully some of that helps I

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gen underscore UK feedback at I

1:10:25

gen comm if you need any more doctor's

1:10:27

advice Don't come to us. Yeah,

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please about it actual doctor. Yeah

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Good stuff. I don't know what we'll be talking about next

1:10:35

week, but hopefully I'll feel better. That'll be a

1:10:38

good start Thank

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you for joining me gentlemen. Hmm. Yeah,

1:10:43

what use this we have I'm

1:10:48

gonna think of any trombone for more for three. I

1:10:50

didn't know if we should have some of the trombone

1:10:53

from a Lowering why not? It

1:10:55

makes sense bone. Yeah, I'll

1:10:57

pick the most trombone II piece I can find out about

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that Alright,

1:11:01

see you later Goodbye You