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rebel. I'm

1:05

Simon Cardy and welcome to the IGN

1:07

UK podcast. Can

1:20

you tell I've been watching a

1:22

bit of Jackass this week? No.

1:25

I think the former life I could have been, Johnny Knoxville.

1:27

What do you think about that? But

1:29

you live at the same time. Yeah,

1:31

but he's a generation older, right? Yeah,

1:35

but there's crossover periods, so it can't be in

1:37

a former life, can it? I was too young to do

1:39

it now. You couldn't start Jackass now. You could say, I

1:41

think you could, you should have said in a different universe,

1:43

like I could have been Johnny

1:45

Knox. Different time. Multiverse Cardy.

1:48

I finally watched, because they're

1:50

all on Netflix now. I finally watched Jackass 4.

1:52

Jackass 4 is great. I really enjoyed it. It

1:54

was really good, wasn't it? I was thinking about

1:56

watching that again, actually, because I saw it in

1:58

a cinema, but They've got the 4.5

2:01

cut as well on Netflix. Oh, I do

2:04

think I watch that. Is that the one? I haven't

2:06

watched it yet Okay So is it in the main one

2:08

where there's the the new one of the new guys to

2:10

the team is like a really Giant

2:12

dude and there's one of them I

2:15

think you might be in 4.5 where they put

2:17

like loads of cellophane around him and they put like

2:19

Sushi in down it and they make him really sway.

2:22

They make him do run in the I don't think

2:24

I've seen that so that must be in the

2:26

full point. That is like one of the most hideous

2:28

things I've ever seen them all eating sushi out is

2:30

bum cracks sway, but yeah the

2:33

I really like for me sometimes

2:36

it's the simple ones the ones where they In

2:39

Jackass for if you don't see Jackass for I'm

2:41

a it's hardly spoilers as it was boiling I Look

2:44

practical jokes in a film all about practical jokes

2:46

the one where they kind of trick them into

2:48

thinking there's a rattlesnake in Room just turn all

2:50

the lights off and they're just all falling over

2:52

is it's very simple, but very funny And

2:55

the one where I think it's Dave England They're just um

2:58

they they like rub like

3:00

fish and peanut butter on him and they just release a bear

3:05

One of the new guys dad is like terrified

3:07

of that and they lock him in the room

3:10

with the bear as well Maybe don't they um

3:12

that they they put like tarantula in it in

3:14

his head like in a helmet It's

3:17

so it's so stupid. They really does tickle

3:19

like that real like there is a space

3:22

for like Is

3:24

there a place for Jackass? It's a space for them doing it

3:26

if it like I said if anyone Tried to

3:28

do a new like a new team of people

3:30

now. I think I remember being like now No,

3:32

remember that Welsh group what I'm just yeah, I

3:35

don't you Sanchez, but it was a couple years

3:38

Yeah, it's just about being megan when it as

3:40

opposed to a jackass is like sometimes it was megan

3:42

But mostly it was just silly. It's just stupid.

3:44

Yeah, like what happens if you run into a

3:46

block of wood is gonna Like

3:48

this it really just does

3:51

tickle that yeah like real childish like

3:53

funny though, yeah I really watch

3:55

jackass one not as good as I remember But

3:57

I'm gonna watch two and three Jackass one

4:00

One of the worst things I've ever seen in

4:02

the film ever though is when they're doing paper

4:04

cuts on themselves between their fingers I can't watch

4:06

that one. Yeah, it's like one of the worst

4:08

things I've ever seen in my life Yeah, anyway,

4:10

I've been doing this we watching a load of

4:12

Jackass and you know what? I booted up

4:15

because I never properly played I was like I'm gonna give

4:17

it a go So I was in the

4:19

mood for a Batman story and I started Gotham Knights and I

4:21

got full like half an hour And I was like no this

4:23

combat this combat. I can't do it game of good. Ask me

4:26

It's a shame because I might

4:28

give it a little more time

4:30

that yeah I can't see myself giving it much more

4:33

you guys done anything this week. There's better than

4:35

Jackass or Gotham Knights. I Carried

4:37

on watching squid game because I dropped a

4:39

new four episodes or four episodes. God.

4:42

There's some evil people not sure Honestly,

4:45

I can't say enough good things about this

4:47

show like I properly like I think it's

4:49

fundamentally flawed and actually not great in places

4:51

But I can't deny I've been having a

4:53

very fun time watching it It's

4:55

for me. It's great in all the ways

4:57

that peak big brother was great, you

5:00

know, like just people being

5:02

snidey and and Can I have been behind

5:04

each other's back forming teams and always trying

5:06

to screw each other over and then the

5:08

games masters really? Putting them in those situations.

5:10

It really forces them to screw each

5:12

other. I love it Yeah, I actually like when they're

5:14

in the game scenarios. It's more for me. I think

5:17

that I talked to yes There's been too many times or

5:19

it's just like we need to whittle

5:21

down the numbers Let's just get people to pick their friends to

5:23

go for I was like that's not much of a game That's

5:26

just people saying I like you you can come through with me

5:29

But they but they were the parts that create the

5:31

conversations within the groups as well They talk about I

5:33

can't believe this person did that to me or vote

5:36

Yeah, they were running out ideas on point. They're

5:38

just like let's roll a dice and see The

5:44

marble stuff was good No,

5:47

I've not seen it but I've heard you all talking about it

5:49

so much and I'm kind of tempted to try it

5:51

out It's good and then like every

5:53

episode there is like one person you just like

5:55

suddenly turn against you like I can't wait for

5:58

you to go up Colors

8:00

the what like do you theme each year?

8:02

I like to keep it simple. Maybe like

8:05

two to three colors only That's

8:07

the classy way don't you know like I got a Christmas

8:10

trees is a bit. Yeah Yeah,

8:13

like what kind of lights do you go for

8:15

cuz we're like full warm white we want it

8:17

to be yeah We've got like the yeah,

8:19

I think it's the elements like an off-white.

8:21

Yeah, basically what we have is our Goldie

8:23

sort of colors Oh, we like blue

8:25

and silver, but I think these days it's more of like a

8:27

red and gold sort of Thing going

8:29

on yeah, oh, that's what we're going for

8:32

yeah red and gold nice We

8:37

probably won't power up for another we can't imagine we

8:39

normally do it I've

8:41

got a do mine this weekend. I've got a girl up in

8:43

the lofts and get it all down. So yeah Little

8:47

Alfie's first Christmas it is just got actually

8:49

that's so weird literally this morning through the

8:52

post We got a custom-made little bauble for

8:54

him. That's his first Christmas on it. Oh

8:56

I Won't remember it,

8:58

but there we go the pictures will be

9:01

there And

9:03

picture lasts forever Do

9:05

you know what else lasts forever when you

9:07

win a game award that goes down in

9:09

history on Wikipedia? You

9:12

winning an award? The

9:15

game awards are next week in Los Angeles

9:17

We won't be there, but I'll probably do

9:19

the math thing of staying up till 4

9:21

a.m. To watch them. Oh, mate fuck that

9:24

You'll be up. You've got baby. You'll be up anyway. He's

9:27

alright. I'll be up, but like I go back to sleep

9:29

in 10 minutes I've got him off. I

9:31

will 100% skim through that thing

9:33

in the morning I stopped to

9:35

like to anyway, so what it's only an extra

9:37

hour a bit and then yeah It

9:40

means you have to watch it all in real time and sometimes But

9:43

then you get the funny bits at sometimes, you know,

9:46

you know, who knows who's gonna invade the station Surely

9:49

that can't happen again It

9:52

can I mean yeah, but you feel like they

9:55

gotta be wise to it now like So,

10:00

who knows? Anyway,

10:02

we're gonna... We're gonna go through

10:04

not all the categories, because there's a ton of categories at

10:06

this award show. We're going through, I think we've got eight

10:09

listed down here that we thought. I say we

10:11

thought, I thought we were interested, that we can

10:13

talk about. Not a lot of the genre ones,

10:15

more of the broader ones. And

10:18

just go through what we think in each

10:20

category should win and will win. Because

10:23

we don't ever really do a Game Awards podcast

10:26

episode. We'll do our alternative ones in a few weeks

10:28

for them, or silly. This actually gives us a chance

10:30

to talk about some of the best games of the

10:32

year and not, you know, I don't know. They'll

10:34

probably pick favourite ball bag in a game again

10:37

or something. I haven't been any ball bags in

10:39

a shot. I did think of one the other

10:41

day, sort of silly. I didn't write these things

10:43

down, really. Really, really should. Anyway,

10:46

let's just go through them. I mean, first

10:48

up, let's build up to some

10:50

of the big ones. I just

10:52

follow the best blue character. There's a

10:54

lot of blue. There's a lot of

10:56

blue characters. Blue Ian Avatar. And

10:59

Sonic. There was another one as well,

11:01

I can't think of what it is. I mean, there's probably

11:03

a lot of games where you can just choose blue as

11:05

a skin colour for all. Erm... Yeah.

11:10

I could argue that Clive from Final My Seven

11:12

is quite blue during the game. Well,

11:14

he's quite down. Oh, I like blue. I

11:18

mean, the most of them, Jeeva is blue, right?

11:20

Yeah, there you go. Lots of blue this year.

11:24

There's blue characters in Zelda. There's blue

11:26

characters everywhere this year. What a category.

11:28

Maybe do a whole episode on blue

11:31

characters. If we're

11:33

desperate, which we may well be. Right, first category

11:35

we're going to look at is... The Best

11:38

Narrative Award. We've

11:41

got the nominees at Alan Wake 2,

11:43

Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty, Final

11:45

Fantasy 16, and

11:47

Marvel's Spider-Man. When

11:51

you look at like a best narrative award, do

11:53

you go for just simply, which told the best

11:55

story, or do you go for which told a

11:58

narrative in an interesting way? for

12:00

games there's two very different ways of looking

12:02

at it right like how to construct a

12:04

narrative or literally just which had the best

12:06

story. Mine's purely emotional driven it's which one

12:09

did I enjoy the most? It's simple as

12:11

that I'm not thinking about the technical side

12:13

of putting it together at all. I

12:16

don't know how you feel Emma. Yeah

12:18

I think I'd agree like probably a combination of

12:21

the two and like how much has it stuck

12:23

with me still yeah at this point in time.

12:25

That's a good shout. So

12:27

should we go for what's a bit more

12:30

fun way to do it first what do

12:32

we think we'll win or what do we

12:34

want to win? It's

12:36

tough isn't it? I mean should we do what

12:38

we think? Imagine what we

12:40

think we'll win we will probably be

12:43

more collective on we probably yeah we'll

12:45

probably agree where what we want to

12:47

win is probably yeah and sometimes they'll

12:49

be the same right but I

12:51

do think Alan make two will win this. I think

12:53

it will win I don't want it to but I

12:56

think it will yeah. I think partly

12:58

if it's where I was coming from before

13:01

I think people will just really appreciate how

13:03

that story is constructed the layers of it

13:05

how it all intertwines how it

13:07

can kind of be played in not any audio

13:09

like but in different orders and

13:11

still makes sense and it's

13:14

a story all about story really and

13:16

I think people will relate to that

13:18

especially like because these awards are voted

13:20

by like critics and outlets and I think remedy

13:23

games and I'm like like they're very game

13:27

press sort of games if you know what I

13:29

mean they appreciate and I'm including myself in that

13:31

because this is what I want to win as

13:33

well because I do think it is the best.

13:35

It's like the equivalent of Oscar bait right like

13:37

not that it's made that way but it definitely

13:39

feels like you like I said it's very sort

13:41

of games pressy they don't I don't think Alan

13:43

Wakell particularly set any records for sales or anything

13:45

this year I don't think the mainstream is necessarily

13:47

playing it but I think yeah

13:49

a lot of the media industry will

13:51

appreciate it. Yeah although I can't deny

13:53

the Baldur's Gate just also

13:56

just the sheer amount of story it

13:58

tells and like the sheer amount

14:00

of writing in that game and the way it

14:02

lets you kind of tell your own story is

14:04

that's why I think it won't probably shouldn't win

14:06

not by a play boarders gate but from what

14:08

I can understand the fact that

14:10

it's so broad in the story that could be told like

14:13

I feel like a story is a better

14:15

thing to yeah it's still but

14:18

there I mean there's not a bad

14:20

story in it I'd say though like they all whether

14:22

you do think you're gonna get a good story and

14:24

that's a testament to it like I

14:26

can't be grudged if it wins that like

14:29

I don't think fun fancy 16 should win nope no

14:31

way that's the one that definitely should not I think

14:33

for the first half of that story it's interesting when

14:35

it's more of the game of Thrones style and it's

14:38

more about warring nations but the more it descends into

14:40

like prophecy without spoiling it

14:42

more it descends into the kind

14:44

of Final Fantasy god-like stuff I'm

14:46

like yeah yeah I bounced off

14:48

that one because I wasn't interested

14:51

in it's not it's not a

14:53

terrible story but it's definitely not when

14:55

you compare it to the other games in this like in terms

14:57

of writing it's it's nowhere near in

15:00

the same as actual like dialogue writing or

15:02

anything like that like yeah spider-man said good

15:04

story very good story I really

15:06

enjoyed the main thing but it didn't do anything

15:08

that truly blew me away in its

15:10

story no I did like how

15:12

it was paced but ultimately I did feel like the

15:16

pacing and the way it was put together was

15:18

largely gameplay driven first and then yeah

15:20

for me cyberpunk should okay yeah I would love me what

15:22

I want to win yeah I

15:28

just like I said it's an emotional

15:30

response it's the one that less than lasting lasting impression

15:32

on me I hate my

15:34

hate I very much dislike

15:36

the story in the original cyberpunk because

15:38

I don't like Johnny Silverman's but I

15:41

just didn't care about I enjoyed everything

15:43

else about cyberpunk except for the main

15:45

story whereas Phantom Liberty was like pull

15:47

me right in and found it immediately

15:49

engaging it was the story that I

15:51

thought cyberpunk should have told all along

15:54

that sort of you know underground spy espionage

15:56

sort of element I think it's I think

15:59

they found their pocket of

16:01

what cyberpunk story should be and

16:04

yeah it's just the

16:06

one that left the biggest impact on me I think.

16:08

You say you agree, Emma, you want it someone as

16:10

well? I would love for that to

16:12

win yeah I thoroughly enjoyed it like to be

16:14

fair I've really enjoyed the base game excuse me

16:16

as well but yeah the story

16:19

for this was really cool like you said

16:21

the S3 Nunch stuff was really fun like

16:23

going undercover and then kind of heisty type

16:25

stuff and what also like

16:28

really made me like respect this even more I

16:30

know with cyberpunk there were so many in the

16:33

base game like choices you could make and that

16:35

could change like which characters stick around and stuff

16:38

and with this when I finished it I saw like

16:40

on my achievements I'd picked something like the ending

16:42

I picked only had like 3% or

16:45

something that other people would picked it so that okay let

16:47

me see like how else this could have gone so then

16:49

I went back and watched a bunch of

16:51

other endings and it was like wow this

16:53

I respected it like even more after seeing

16:55

all those other endings as well it's

16:58

very good yeah it's one of those ones that

17:00

yeah it provides different endings but they all feel

17:02

like decent quality it didn't

17:04

feel like a really fluff and it also

17:07

it could be argued fixes the main ending

17:09

of the main story as well like there's

17:11

a certain path you can

17:13

take at the end of Phantom Liberty that changes the end

17:15

cut scene of the main game as well and I personally

17:18

thought it made it much better as well yeah

17:20

I do I think you know any improved the

17:23

main game it would be like my third pick

17:25

in this category but you

17:27

guys have picked it as number one for both you

17:30

so I'm guessing if we if we're gonna you know

17:32

count everyone's together I think we're

17:34

in agreement that Alan weight two will

17:36

win but cyberpunk should win for that

17:38

one that is the official just from us

17:40

three that's the official IJ in UK decision

17:44

but I I think I'd hope I don't

17:46

wait to I'm pretty sure I didn't wait

17:48

to win even though I was I think

17:50

Baldur's Gate could easily as well just because

17:53

of that like said the sheer amount of

17:55

great story yeah it has in the oh

17:57

I think the get is a game all about

17:59

telling stories just like D&D is like yeah I

18:01

know this is voted for the industry but I also

18:03

think we tend

18:05

to maybe subconsciously like spread out

18:07

votes as well I don't think anything really

18:10

would take a clean like clean sweep and

18:12

I feel like well Alomay could win like best direction

18:14

but might not win I think they're right yeah there's

18:17

three or four games this year that'll split a lot

18:19

of awards yeah um but yeah

18:21

I'll be voting for Alomay a lot but

18:24

there we go um I've actually done my

18:26

cast my visual photo for these so we'll

18:29

see um next

18:31

up we have a best performance

18:33

kind of linked to narrative

18:35

in a way because what is what is

18:38

the story about a great character right but

18:40

this is crucially not about the character it

18:42

is about the performance so whereas

18:45

IGN this year we are we're doing

18:47

a little differently but our awards are

18:49

in what a couple of weeks I

18:51

think yes we'll see little Tuesday I

18:53

don't have Al get in trouble for

18:55

me saying that I don't think you

18:57

will but there we go this is

18:59

for best performance and we've got Ben

19:01

Staras Clive in Final Fantasy 16, Cameron

19:03

Monaghan who plays Cal Kestis in Star

19:05

Wars Jedi Survivor, Idris Elba who plays

19:07

Solomon Reed in Cyberpunk fans limiting, Melanie

19:09

LaBerg who plays Saga in Alan weight

19:11

2, Neil Newborn who plays Asterion in Baldur's

19:13

Gate 3 and Yuri

19:16

Lowenthal who plays Peter Parker

19:18

in Spider-Man 2. This

19:20

is an interesting one to me because

19:23

if we're judging it purely on

19:25

performance my

19:27

answer might shock you here. Idris

19:30

Elba? No purely on performance

19:32

I would go Yuri Lowenthal for Spider-Man.

19:34

I get I'd surprise him because

19:36

I think he has he basically

19:39

has to kind of play multiple characters

19:41

in this game that's true not

19:43

literally but when he becomes

19:45

more symbiote Spider-Man and the black suit

19:47

kind of takes hold in the story

19:50

a bit he kind of has

19:52

to change his whole voice and does some like

19:54

really great stuff in those moments I think and

19:57

I just believe I think he's just a really great

19:59

Peter. He's like totally on point the

20:01

whole game like I believe his connections

20:03

to all those characters And like I said he has to

20:06

do a lot more in this one than

20:08

he has had to do in the previous spider-man games So

20:10

I think if we're going purely on the performance

20:13

and not you know taking into the characters and

20:15

what they go through in a story I

20:18

think his performance out of those six to

20:20

me is the one that I was most

20:22

impressed by the one thing I'd say that

20:24

goes against him and I might be wrong

20:26

on this But I assume this is

20:28

true is that Maybe

20:31

four of the others actually not only

20:33

do the vocal performance, but do the

20:36

motion capture performance. Yes, that's true Where's

20:38

he doesn't is and like you know

20:40

the title is best performance And

20:42

I think you know like having to encompass

20:44

everything about the role like for I

20:46

think yeah, so for

20:50

saga for Solomon Reed Yeah,

20:52

Cal Kestis and probably Ben

20:54

star and Clive as are they probably all did the

20:56

motion capture as well I imagine I

20:59

don't know I've been started, but I don't have to look

21:01

into that. Yeah, but I don't know like these are all

21:03

I think these are all Good performances.

21:05

Yeah, it's hard to pick right. It's actually

21:07

hard to pick which one I think will

21:10

witness What got what first of

21:12

what do you guys want to win? What do you I

21:15

would go? Idris Elba, I

21:17

think he does really well

21:19

with Solomon Reed immediately You can feel like

21:22

he plays this like sort of Troubled

21:24

like being sort of away for years kind

21:26

of character that's sort of coming back into

21:28

it And you can tell there's like way

21:30

more like going on underneath the surface of

21:32

his character, and he plays that really well

21:35

Mm-hmm What do you

21:37

think though? I mean I personally

21:39

I like Idris Elba as well, but as

21:42

who I can see winning I Feel

21:45

like these are their sort of awards, and I know

21:47

it's very informed by people But it feels like if

21:49

it wasn't voted for by group people and they were

21:51

deciding to it It feels like the making of a

21:53

star moment. You know like this is out of pun

21:55

on the name I know It

21:58

feels like the moment to like you know Like

22:00

Chris and this person are new Troy Baker, you

22:02

know, like the person who's going to be around

22:05

in the industry. And it definitely feels like Ben

22:07

Starr is being positioned to be

22:09

there. So yeah, I think if we talk

22:11

about who will win, I think it's between

22:14

Ben Starr and Neil Neubon. I think Asterion

22:16

and Clive, they're the two. Because I do

22:18

think people will, despite being a performance award,

22:20

people will tangentially link those two characters. And

22:24

people like Clive and people definitely love

22:26

Asterion from Baldur's Gate 3. So

22:29

and I think almost like all the

22:31

performances in Baldur's Gate 3 are very, very good.

22:33

They're all kind of on point for those characters.

22:35

And it's almost like they've picked one from Baldur's

22:37

Gate 3. It can almost be considered an award

22:39

for all of the voice acting in Baldur's Gate

22:41

in a way. And I feel like

22:44

I don't know, I feel like it's

22:46

between Asterion and Clive for the award. But I

22:48

think I still I don't know. I

22:51

think I might pick Yuri Loewer for but I don't know. It's

22:54

a tough one this one. Yeah, I feel like

22:56

I really enjoyed Saagryn Alameke. Yeah,

22:59

specifically like I've mentioned

23:01

to you before that I just don't like Alameke as

23:03

a character at all. And I blame but Saagryn really

23:05

like kept me going like in terms of the story

23:07

side of things who I really enjoyed her side of

23:10

it. But I also don't

23:12

know if she if it's quite enough to beat some

23:14

of these other ones. Yeah, it's

23:17

a tough category. Yeah, a lot of good performances this

23:19

year. I don't know what we're going to decide. We're

23:21

all kind of split on that one. So

23:23

yeah, we'll see what happens I guess. No

23:25

one's holding us to these predictions. So

23:27

yeah, I'm definitely not. Let's go

23:29

on to the next category. Best score

23:32

in music. So we've

23:34

got Alameke 2, Baldur's Gate 3,

23:36

Final Fantasy 16, Hithai Rush and

23:39

the Legend of Zelda Tears of

23:41

the Kingdom. A lot of different

23:43

styles of music here. Yeah, tough one. It

23:46

is a tough one. I would

23:50

vote for this one. I know people especially I

23:52

was put to Mr. Matt Perzlow

23:54

about this one. I know people don't consider this one

23:57

of the strongest almost iconic Final Fantasy

23:59

scores. But when some of those

24:01

massive, but I love that battle film, when some

24:04

of these massive battles do get going, not every

24:06

song is amazing, but when it hits, it really

24:08

hits the music in this game. I can like,

24:11

so for me, a good measure

24:13

of lasting legacy of music

24:15

from a game is when I can immediately think of

24:17

it and remember what it sounds like. You know, as

24:19

a part of just being generic, sort of orchestral stuff

24:21

that washes away. And that battle theme in Final Fantasy

24:23

16 does immediately come into my head. But

24:26

apart from that, I remember not

24:28

particularly enjoying a lot of it, but in

24:30

comparison to previous Final Fantasies, I think that's

24:32

the big takeaway there. It's like, Bob, music

24:34

has been better in Final Fantasy before. Yeah,

24:36

yeah. Alan Wight II is kind of like,

24:38

I think the audio design is brilliant. I

24:40

was just thinking that. So you think a

24:42

lot of like the, I don't know if

24:44

this takes into account like all the credit

24:46

songs and like the Poets the Fool songs,

24:48

or if it's strictly just the score. Because

24:51

I don't know if the score itself is the strongest

24:53

part of the audio in this game. I

24:56

mean, it says for outstanding music, inclusive

24:58

of score, original song and all over

25:00

the soundtrack. Because like, I

25:02

don't want to spoil it because I don't spoil it, but you've probably

25:04

seen it all over the internet already. And

25:07

I don't know if that'll be enough for people

25:09

to go, yeah, that should win just for that.

25:11

I think that could easily happen.

25:14

Potentially. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen that. Like, I

25:16

haven't played it yet. I'm hoping to play it at Christmas. But

25:19

that is the thing I've seen pop up

25:21

most on my feed. Yeah, yeah. It is

25:23

amazing. It's Tears of the Kingdom. I

25:25

don't remember. It's incredible music. But it is

25:28

a new music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like

25:30

Zelda music is unbelievable. I just don't

25:32

know if, like it is

25:34

undeniably like, beautiful

25:36

music, but I don't know if it's people going to be like, it's

25:39

Moors Elder. They will find you. It just not

25:41

for me like Moors Elder music. I never really

25:43

paid attention to it beyond the fact that obviously

25:46

it feels perfectly suited. But then

25:48

there's High Fry Rush, which is kind of the

25:50

whole game is built around that score and that

25:52

music. So like that is you can't have that

25:54

game without the music. And it's not like music

25:56

that's necessarily been stuck in my head, but it

25:59

is like the music. Music at those levels are

26:01

so crucial because you attack to the

26:03

beat, right? So it's like it's such

26:05

an integral part. Like these are such different

26:07

games in the way they approach music, whether

26:09

it's like to set atmosphere or to like

26:12

set gameplay or to just build like story

26:14

moments like it's a tough one to pick,

26:16

like which of the best of these. I

26:19

think you've got to have like rock

26:21

and jazz versus classical versus like horror

26:23

music, like I don't know what

26:26

you do. I felt pretty confident Alan White will win

26:28

this. OK, but

26:31

I don't know if that's what I want to win, but I think I

26:33

feel like because I think of

26:36

that we sing moment, I think it leaves

26:38

that biggest impact to the

26:40

first thing that comes to your mind when you think I think

26:42

Final Fantasy is going to win it. I

26:44

think it will be Final Fantasy. It wouldn't be

26:46

my pick. But like when I think about Final

26:48

Fantasy music, I think about

26:50

how people I've seen people on Twitch and

26:52

stuff, they'll have Final Fantasy like tracks playing

26:55

while they're playing other games. And I feel

26:57

like from what I've heard from this game,

26:59

I could see people like having that kind

27:01

of sticking power of like, oh, yeah, I'll

27:03

put this on Spotify or whatever in the

27:05

background, like the battle games pretty good. I think

27:07

we've also got to remember that we're on the

27:10

I still think this is a good guy. I'd

27:12

give it like seven. I think it's a good

27:14

game. But there are a lot of people much

27:16

hotter on the Final Fantasy. I know. But I

27:18

still think it's not even close

27:20

to being the best Final Fantasy music. But then even

27:24

the worst Final Fantasy music is still better

27:27

than a lot of games soundtrack, I guess. Yeah,

27:29

it's like a high bar with their stuff. I honestly

27:31

I wouldn't be surprised if any one for this one

27:33

is kind of pretty open. I think. Yeah. I would

27:36

like to see Highfives. Really. And even though I wasn't

27:38

a fan of that game, to be honest, but I

27:40

could absolutely see like the argument where you

27:43

made for it is like a core is

27:45

a core central part of that game is

27:47

music. Yeah. Doesn't it incorporate licensed music in

27:49

some places? Yeah, there are some tracks. The

27:51

boss fights, they have like actual licensed music

27:53

in there. That's kind of just picking a

27:55

song. Right. I don't know how much

27:57

credit you get for just going. Adapting

28:01

that song to work in the environment. Like,

28:04

I think it was... Was

28:07

it Sackboy's Adventure? That

28:09

did the same thing with Liza's Music, but it's

28:11

the way you cleverly used it. I think that's

28:13

what deserved the praise. Tough

28:17

category. Who knows? Any can win. Good

28:19

luck to you all. This

28:21

one might not take us long. Best independent

28:24

game. We've got Cocoon, Dave the

28:26

Diver, not Dale the Driver. There's many people

28:28

who've accidentally typed in the past like... Dredge,

28:33

Sea of Stars and Viewfinder. I

28:35

know, Dale, you haven't played any of these because

28:37

you hate independent games. Yeah, absolutely hate independent games.

28:39

Don't stop making them and triple-A only. But

28:42

no, I played about an hour or so

28:44

of Viewfinder. There was a demo of it and

28:46

I played it and I was like, I get this. I

28:49

kind of didn't feel like I needed to play any more of it. Have

28:51

you played any of these, Emma? No,

28:54

I haven't. The game that I would have wanted

28:56

to be on here isn't on here. And that's

28:58

Venbar. I really enjoyed that. I haven't played that and I

29:01

do need to check that out. Is there an

29:03

indie game this year, though, you have enjoyed? Pick

29:06

It. Sons of the Forest,

29:08

that's an indie game. Technically, there you go.

29:10

What was that? Early Access, that's not nominated.

29:13

And these games are probably better. What?

29:16

I've played three of these. I've

29:18

played Cocoon, Dredge and Viewfinder. I do want

29:20

to play David the Diver and I probably...

29:22

I think that's my biggest Christmas game. I

29:24

might get stuck after that Christmas. Sea

29:27

of Stars. I do want to check out, but

29:29

I haven't got time for a 30-hour RPG right

29:31

now. For

29:34

me, Viewfinder was good. Not

29:37

great in the end. I

29:39

enjoyed the puzzles, but I feel like I've kind of

29:42

been there, done that by the end of it. Dredge,

29:45

I really, really like. I

29:47

really like the atmosphere of it. I really

29:50

like the fishing mechanics. Lovely stuff. Play that

29:52

if you haven't. But for

29:54

me, it's easily Cocoon as the winner for this. This is

29:56

like a borderline 10 out of 10 puzzle game for me.

29:59

It's one of the best... I probably played since

30:01

the witness and it's just it's

30:03

genius. It's pure Just I think

30:05

Matt talked about it on the podcast a few weeks

30:08

ago, but I have since played it And yeah easily

30:10

in my I think it's in my top five just

30:12

games of the year Absolutely

30:16

love it David over

30:18

has fishing as well. So what's the best fishing

30:20

game David? I need to play David over I

30:22

need to check this out. I need to I

30:26

think that one's a lot less sinister than dredge from

30:28

what? Yeah

30:34

Yeah Check it but

30:36

all those games bowl accounts very good, but I

30:38

I will pick I Don't

30:41

know what will win this one. I want cocoon to win.

30:43

I don't have enough people played it

30:45

for it to To win, but

30:47

I hope it does because I think

30:49

it's it did feel like there was a

30:51

period in time Where dredge was like the

30:53

hotness like everybody talking about it and I

30:55

could see it winning because of that really

30:57

it's not really good Vibes people love vibes,

30:59

right? They have whales It

31:02

has some big scary fish. I'm not sure

31:05

how I can't remember if they're technically whales

31:07

in it It's their large stuff.

31:09

I think they the diamond like but I haven't played it

31:11

yet. I don't know Play

31:14

cocoon Emma. This is something I shouldn't

31:16

say. Well, we're gonna rise but Callum from

31:18

Ubisoft also hate is scared of whales

31:21

That's really It randomly

31:23

came up we're talking about fears and he said all giant

31:25

whales and stuff and I was like Oh Emma on our

31:27

team scared of whales But

31:36

they're just I think it's just the sheer

31:38

size of them it just like Seeing

31:41

it in VR. I was just really really Honestly,

31:44

I just like it wasn't it when it started making

31:46

the noises as well. I was like no no no

31:48

no No Very

31:52

good. Luckily. Yeah, no whales. I don't think

31:54

but yeah, I hope cocoon wins We'll

31:57

see best adaptation, right? This

31:59

one too is pretty clear. Yeah, it's the

32:01

easiest one of them all. We've

32:04

got, so these are games that

32:06

have been adapted into another entertainment

32:08

medium. So we've got Castlevania Nocturne,

32:11

Gran Turismo, The Last of Us,

32:13

the Super Mario Bros movie and

32:15

Twisted Metal. Is there any way

32:17

The Last of Us doesn't win this? It's impossible.

32:20

Like, maybe if Super

32:22

Mario was just a little bit better

32:24

I could see it winning, but it

32:27

just wasn't funny enough was it? That was my biggest

32:29

point. I thought it was a fine, it was a

32:31

good attempt at the right time. It was okay, but

32:33

I just felt like this needs to be more funny

32:35

to be good. Yeah, and I mean

32:38

The Last of Us is just, whether

32:40

it's an adaptation or not, it's just excellent television.

32:42

Like it's, I think I

32:44

have it like Sir, Behind the Session and the

32:46

Bear is just my favourite TV show of the

32:48

year. I think I'd agree. It's that good. Yeah,

32:51

it's really good. Especially Episode 3 was so good

32:53

of Last of Us. Such

32:55

an amazing episode of television. Has

32:57

anyone even watched Twisted Metal? I

33:00

haven't. No, I heard people say it

33:02

was actually better than all the trailers

33:04

suggested, but I'm also not like a

33:07

Twisted Metal fan in the slightest. No, who

33:09

is? I mean, obviously there is a fanbase,

33:11

they wouldn't have made it otherwise, but like,

33:14

I've never known anyone who's like, Oh,

33:16

my favourite game series is Twisted Metal.

33:19

Yeah, it's such an odd one. Yeah,

33:24

it's not happening, is it? It's

33:26

gonna be The Last of Us. There is

33:28

no way on earth that this

33:30

is not gonna be The Last of Us. But you

33:32

know what would be very funny to see Anthony Mackie walk

33:34

out to collect the award for The Last of Us at

33:36

the game and just have like Neil Dropman sitting there like,

33:38

what happened here? Yeah. What

33:40

have we gotta do? I

33:45

wonder if we'll see. We're gonna have a guess at like

33:47

one reveal each later in a bit. Do you think we'll

33:49

get any sort of... They'll take the

33:51

opportunity to be like, and here's our Abbey or something

33:53

for The Last of Us Part 2? Something like that.

33:56

You never know. Do you know what? I do feel like it

33:59

has become... more and more over the years an opportunity

34:02

to announce video game adaptations there as well

34:04

and I feel like maybe there's something coming

34:06

that we don't know about that they might.

34:09

I think like we saw the first pictures this week coming

34:11

which is why maybe if we get like a first trailer

34:13

for the Fallout show it seems like the perfect place. Yeah

34:15

that's true. I want the Bioshock movie obviously that's kind

34:18

of been in the works for a long time and

34:20

there is a director attached. There's so many adaptations coming

34:22

that yeah. But I want to see it. I am

34:24

so I saw the I think it was about I

34:26

saw the Fallout teaser I don't think

34:29

it'll be the same as the teaser they'll actually ever

34:31

publicly show when I was at Gamescom a

34:33

few months ago and I thought it looked good

34:35

then and those pictures and what the article all

34:37

about the show of the director and

34:39

stuff it sounds like they're doing the right thing. I've

34:41

actually high hopes for that show. Yeah I'm really excited

34:43

for that show. The only thing I'm

34:46

not sure about is I think some of the

34:48

costumes look a tiny bit cheap in there. Sometimes

34:50

it stills like you over focus on them right

34:52

when they're in motion it might look better. Definitely

34:55

I don't really like where Westworld went but

34:57

the first season of Westworld is fantastic. So

35:00

we get that sort of thing going on

35:02

here. Yeah but anyway last of

35:04

us winning best adaptation. We've got a

35:08

few more. We've got best game

35:10

direction. Very tough. It's

35:12

kind of like linked to the

35:14

game of the year which we'll do next. But I

35:17

don't like it's sort of been the Oscars thing they do

35:19

in the last like 10 years which is give a give

35:22

best director to the film that's not the best

35:24

game just sort of like honor both of them

35:26

in a weird way like rarely does the best

35:28

director Oscar go to the best film these days.

35:30

Yeah but I wonder if that'll be the way

35:32

around it happens this year so

35:34

best game direction we've got Alan weight to

35:36

Baldur's Gate 3 Spider-Man 2

35:39

Super Mario Brothers wonder and

35:41

the Legend of Zelda tears of the kingdom again

35:45

it kind of comes down to the what way do you direction

35:48

because Alan weight 2 is

35:51

like as close as kind of

35:53

to an altered video game you

35:56

can get like we've been talking in film terms is

35:58

a singular vision that. I'm not saying it's

36:00

all Sam Lake because there's a lot of people in that team,

36:02

but it's this kind of like Sam

36:04

Lake's baby And this is like they've gone for

36:06

it. They've gone for this sort of weird

36:10

full-on remedy Stephen King Twin Peaks True

36:12

detective thing and as far as I'm

36:14

concerned they nailed that like what they

36:16

went out to achieve Whether

36:18

it like you completely loved the

36:21

game what they went out to achieve. They

36:23

fully like did it I think as somebody

36:25

who doesn't like the story of Alomate 2,

36:27

I think the direction is outstanding like

36:30

because I think The

36:32

framing of everything the way it's positioned the way

36:34

it's paced and put together like

36:37

Then even like the cinematography of there was

36:39

a lot of live-action stuff in this as

36:41

well And like I think everything in terms

36:43

of the rhythm of it and that is

36:45

all encompassing into direction, right? So it's why

36:48

for me wouldn't win best game, but it

36:50

could easily win best direction. It would be I

36:53

think it's my pit for best game direction But

36:56

then you've got Baldur's Gate 3 which is

36:58

just in terms of directing that game The

37:00

amount of variables the amount of tiny things

37:02

that go like Tiny decisions in

37:05

that game that can affect things 80 hours down

37:07

the line like the pure

37:09

like just spider's web nightmare of

37:11

Directing something as huge and complicated

37:13

as this It's hard

37:16

not to consider that as well. And I

37:18

just it depends what you consider direction whether

37:20

yeah, it's like Completing

37:22

like a singular vision or what

37:25

they're both doing that but you know what I

37:27

mean Like they're both completely different styles of direction

37:29

Baldur's Gate is way more of a gamey sort

37:31

of direction. Alomate 2 is more linear sort of

37:33

movie Traditional direction

37:35

for me. Yeah, Alomate 2 is the

37:37

like the auteur vision is what i'm

37:39

looking for Yeah, it would be my

37:42

pick and I think it will win

37:44

in this category but then you've

37:46

also got Zelda which is If

37:48

you're talking about game direction the way

37:50

that that open world is designed and directed

37:52

is Outstanding like the way

37:54

everything just links together is I do

37:57

think maybe they'll this will be where it kind

37:59

of comes under the oh it's very similar to

38:01

Breath of the Wild it didn't do anything that

38:05

new but it still is under

38:07

like these are all well-directed games I don't

38:09

think Mario or Spider-Man no because

38:12

they are ultimate they are ultimately

38:15

like and I'm saying this in like I'm

38:17

not trying to be mean in any way

38:19

but I say they are very much more of

38:22

the same those two you know but then

38:24

the blueprint is there for those games whereas

38:26

I feel like Baldur's Gate and Alumweight 2

38:28

are just doing like things that

38:30

we've never seen before in games yeah.

38:34

Emma how do you feel about this one? I

38:36

feel like Alumweight 2 will probably win

38:38

I agree there for

38:41

me I would pick Zelda because I

38:43

wanted more Breath of the Wild you

38:45

get this and it's like Breath of the Wild but

38:47

more I love

38:49

that world I love all the new stuff they've added and

38:52

I just think like you know

38:54

if you've got a game like Breath of the

38:56

Wild which everyone sort of holds up as like

38:58

you know the best Zelda like how do you

39:00

follow up on that it's like a tall order

39:02

right and I think they did a great job

39:04

at following up on that in the you know with

39:06

the world and with everything they've added but

39:09

yeah I think I don't think it will actually win

39:11

that would be my personal pick but I think it

39:13

will be Alumweight 2 because yeah the live-action stuff and

39:16

everything I've seen for that it looks like

39:18

you said like the cinematography and stuff looks

39:20

really really interesting and different and I think

39:23

against all these other games like that one

39:25

does stand out as something really special for

39:27

this category yeah I think it's just

39:31

I think it's just an incredibly well-directed game but

39:33

I also think we'll just get through his incredible

39:35

like this year is tough because

39:37

there's a few like ridiculously good

39:39

games that would sweep the awards in any other

39:41

year like we have had some

39:44

years previously where we're kind of like picking

39:46

between a lot of very good games but not

39:48

incredible ones whereas this year that's just a handful

39:50

of incredible games but yeah

39:52

I think and let's go

39:54

on to Game of the Year because it's kind of

39:56

a very similar debate I think because For

40:00

me, so the nominees are

40:02

Alan Waite 2 Baldur's Gate 3, Spider-Man 2,

40:04

Resident Evil 4, which doesn't really appear in

40:06

any other category but is considered for a

40:08

game of the year. Not

40:11

that we've gone for every category here but you know I've

40:13

gone through a lot of the actual ones that link

40:15

into being a great game. You

40:18

can't be nominated for score, performance,

40:20

direction, a lot

40:23

of the other things but you can be the overall

40:25

game of the year. There we go. Alan Waite 2,

40:27

Baldur's Gate 3, Spider-Man 2, Resident Evil 4, Mario

40:30

Bros. Wonder and Legend of Zelda Tears

40:32

of the Kingdom. For

40:34

me, it's

40:37

between Alan Waite 2 and Baldur's Gate 3 for me. My

40:41

heart is telling me to pick Alan Waite 2 but

40:43

my brain is telling me Baldur's Gate 3 is probably

40:46

the greatest RPG ever made and just

40:48

an incredible achievement. I normally go with

40:50

my heart and things like this and

40:52

what moved me more and what I

40:54

want but I think my head is

40:56

overtaken this year and I… Well,

40:59

I can say this year, Baldur's Gate 3

41:01

is my game of the year. I'm voting

41:03

for that as game of the year and

41:05

I do think it will

41:07

win game of the year. I

41:09

agree. I think

41:11

this year it's largely down to Baldur's Gate 3

41:13

versus Tears of the Kingdom but I think the

41:15

thing that's… Because Tears of the Kingdom is…

41:19

It's doing some amazing things but it is

41:21

building on top of something that already existed

41:23

a few years ago. When

41:25

Baldur's Gate 3 came out of nowhere, even though fans

41:27

of the series knew it was coming,

41:29

it did come out of nowhere as a game of the year. For

41:32

a main street. I think

41:34

because of that underdog status, it will

41:36

probably sweep a lot of awards

41:38

this year. I can

41:40

see Baldur's Gate 3 winning. Technically

41:42

indie game of the year as well.

41:45

My first pick would be Resident Evil 4 but I

41:48

have no expectation of that winning

41:50

the award at all. Would

41:54

you pick Resident Evil 4 as your overall game of the year? I

41:56

think so. I have V6

41:59

anyway. Like, I mean,

42:01

a nostalgia carries

42:03

a lot with that, I think. And

42:06

I do think it's a phenomenal game. It's surprising to

42:08

me how little people are really talking about it at

42:10

this point of the year, considering it's the

42:12

remake of one of the greatest games of all

42:15

time, and if anything, they've only made it better.

42:17

I think that's where it'll go against it, right?

42:19

It's not new, really. You

42:21

know, it is new, but it's not, you

42:23

know. But out of these six, it's the one I had the most

42:25

fun with this year. So I think that's why I would say it's

42:27

my favorite. So you have another game of the year that's not

42:29

in this list then? Yeah, Dead Space. Dead

42:32

Space, your game, another remake. Yeah, but it's but

42:34

what they do with our remake is incredible. Like,

42:36

that is the only when I think of what

42:39

is the most fun I have playing a game

42:41

of here is Dead Space unquestionably. But

42:43

other people not interested. I look at like Dead

42:45

Space is is more of a reimagining than a

42:47

remake. Right. They do remix it up quite a

42:50

bit. So, yeah, when you get to like half

42:52

the first few chances are exactly the same, but

42:54

then it quickly starts doing its own thing. And

42:56

then they act like Isaac Clarke has this whole

42:58

lines of dialogue and talks. And he's a character

43:00

now, instead of just a silent protagonist, like he

43:02

wasn't the original. And the audio

43:05

design, how is it not? I

43:08

suppose there is no audio design category, is there? I

43:11

think there might be. I just might not have looked at it. It

43:13

should absolutely be in that if it's not, because

43:15

it is incredible. And I do have the

43:17

I suppose I was looking

43:20

up to go to the studio and talk in detail with a

43:22

lot is nominated for that. OK, good. I

43:24

talk in detail with a lot of people about how it

43:26

all works and stuff. And because of that knowledge, it made

43:28

me appreciate it even more, I think, as well. Yeah,

43:32

yeah, I agree. Very, very good. I still

43:34

haven't quite finished it. She

43:36

has been so strong for remakes, like arguably

43:38

both Dead Space and Resident Evil 4 didn't

43:40

even need remakes because they were already so

43:43

good. And the fact that they have come

43:45

out and they're great is amazing. I

43:48

think Baldur's Gate 3 is going to take this. For

43:51

me, though, I really, really

43:53

am enjoying Spider-Man. Like, I haven't even

43:56

finished the game yet. And already I'm

43:58

like, I think this could be. game

44:00

of the year. I've enjoyed

44:02

Zelda, I've sort of been like flip-flopping between the

44:05

two in like the last few weeks like considering

44:07

like what am I you know voting for and

44:09

stuff but Spider-Man just

44:12

I love the fact that it's obviously

44:14

you've got Miles, I really enjoyed like the

44:17

Miles Morales game and it was short and

44:19

I love that we're getting more of him

44:21

in this game. The combat feels so like

44:23

natural and smooth and I

44:26

love all like the gadgets and stuff that they've added like

44:29

it just feels really really good and yeah

44:31

I love that you're seeing these kind of

44:33

two dimensions to each of the main characters

44:35

as well like not only can you switch

44:38

between these two Spider-Men but with like Peter

44:40

Parker you've got him versus like the suit

44:42

taken over and then with Miles you've got

44:44

him trying to be sort of a good

44:47

Spider-Man and put like thinking you know what's

44:49

better for everyone versus like his own struggles

44:51

with you know dealing with what's happened with

44:54

his dad and stuff and his like sort

44:56

of personal stuff that he wants to

44:58

achieve. I'm just really really loving that

45:00

and like also I think in a year

45:02

where we also had Spider-Verse I'm just like

45:04

full Spider-Man right now like I'm fully into

45:06

it. It really has been you know

45:09

and there's a lot of talk about this a great year for

45:11

games not so much for games developers and games

45:14

media people in terms of losing jobs but in

45:16

terms of actual games that have been released it's

45:19

been a phenomenal year for games like

45:21

there's genuinely like six

45:23

or seven games that if they won game of

45:25

the year I wouldn't be annoyed like there's some

45:27

just very good games. I do think

45:29

it will be ballers gate three and I do want

45:31

it to be ballers gate three but yeah

45:34

that's what we think is

45:36

going to happen who knows I do think they'll

45:39

do the Oscar thing of best direction Alan Wake

45:41

and best game ballers gate three but

45:43

we'll see Zelda might win

45:45

it who knows the

45:48

last one we're going to look at is the most

45:50

anticipated game category just because I want to point out

45:52

that it's going to be an absolute joke because

45:55

and it's only because you

45:57

can't really blame them because the nominations for

46:00

this were announced before a certain

46:02

game was officially kind

46:05

of announced. But the

46:08

nominees the most anticipated game and they're

46:10

all don't get wrong I'm excited for

46:12

almost all these games but Final Fantasy

46:14

7 Rebirth Hades 2, Like a Dragon,

46:16

Infinite Wealth, Star Wars Outlaws and Tekken

46:18

8. Obviously the most

46:20

anticipated game in the world is GTA 6.

46:22

Which if there's on

46:24

this list would wipe the floor

46:26

and I don't know who

46:28

knows when we're getting that trailer they said early December

46:31

that trailer could come before the game awards next Thursday.

46:34

But like it's like that's

46:36

quite obviously the most anticipated game in the world

46:38

but out of these ones I

46:41

don't know what I'll win. I'd have

46:43

people thinking short term or long term.

46:45

For me out of those it's probably

46:47

Star Wars Outlaws just because I've always

46:49

wanted a big open world Star Wars

46:51

game and this looks like what

46:53

I really want from that. But I'm also I

46:56

really want to play like a Dragon Infinite Wealth and

46:58

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth but they're like February

47:00

March they're very close. Yeah I know you

47:02

mean I've already played a bit of Final

47:04

Fantasy 7 Rebirth as well and I'm like

47:07

I'm super excited for it

47:09

because of nostalgia and just seeing what they

47:11

do and stuff. But I do feel like

47:14

it's largely going to feel like the same

47:16

sort of game where Star Wars Outlaws is

47:19

a brand new game brand new series and

47:21

also I'm really liking so far what I've

47:23

what I've played of Avatar and like I

47:26

think Massive has really like demonstrated

47:28

that they're good with

47:30

new IP or with existing IPs so like I'm

47:32

excited to see what they do with Star Wars

47:34

as well. I forgot you went to the preview

47:36

of Avatar I forgot you played about there you

47:39

go there we go.

47:41

Hades 2 I'm obviously really excited for but

47:44

that seems a while off yet. That's one

47:46

I'm most excited for I think. Like I

47:48

got to Hades quite late as well I sort

47:50

of left it a long time before actually picking

47:52

it up even though everyone on like Twitter and

47:54

like where I was working was screaming like you

47:57

have to play this. And

47:59

yeah when I finally I saw what all the fuss

48:01

was about and definitely agreed. So yeah, I'm really

48:03

looking forward to it. I've been considering like a brand

48:05

new playthrough of Hades. I know you play over and

48:07

over again, but like just a clean one doing it

48:10

all again and building up all my weapons and stuff.

48:13

Yeah, I played it over Christmas actually. That was when

48:15

I finally picked it up and it was great because

48:18

it's just all you want to play once you pick it up. And

48:21

Tekken 8, like I'm not a fighting game person. But

48:24

even if you are, a new Street Fighter

48:26

and a new Mortal Kombat came out this

48:28

year and it feels like Tekken 8, Tekken

48:31

is always like the third one down on that. I'm

48:35

just not good with 3D fighters

48:37

as well. It's too much

48:40

for my brain. I used to love Tekken when I was younger,

48:42

but no way consider it my most exciting game. Tekken was my

48:44

choice, like when I was what, I know between the ages of 10

48:46

to 14. That would be the fighting game I

48:49

would play if I played any. But

48:51

yeah, I'm just not these days not into

48:53

fighting games at all really. But out of those,

48:55

I'd say Star Wars, but let's be honest, it's

48:57

GTA 6. So and

49:00

who knows, I'm going to see that trailer. I can't wait for

49:02

it. Could

49:04

be terrible. Who knows? But

49:06

anyway, those are the awards we're looking at. By

49:09

the time you're next here, we'll probably be reacting

49:11

to all the announcements. We

49:13

don't know any of those announcements. And if we

49:16

did, we certainly wouldn't be telling you any of

49:18

them. So we're going to take a guess of

49:20

what we think could be revealed. What,

49:23

just like a dream, a dream thing, I

49:25

imagine something. Or you could go

49:27

more realistic if you want. We've already kind of

49:29

guessed maybe we'll see a Fallout teaser or something

49:31

like that. But I don't know what you got.

49:33

If you see one thing that says a surprise

49:36

or something, what would you pick? I

49:39

think so a news story just brought this

49:41

morning that Capcom confirmed that they're making more

49:43

Resident Evil remakes, which is obvious they were

49:45

going to do that. But

49:47

where I think they could surprise us with

49:50

this is it feels very obvious that

49:52

they're going to do Resident Evil five next because it

49:54

was almost teased at the end of four. But

49:57

I would love to see a surprise announcement that they're going to

49:59

make code for our first instead. Do

50:01

you think we're more likely to

50:03

see that than the next

50:05

Resident Evil 9's turn to be

50:07

revealed now? I get yeah that's

50:09

not a bad shot actually. Obviously

50:15

they're different teams as well working on them. You

50:18

can just say you want to see a new

50:20

resi. I mean but the idea

50:22

of I think remaking Code Veronica quick because

50:24

it seems like they're just ignoring that right

50:26

now. I think that would be

50:28

very exciting for me but yeah Resident Evil 9 I

50:30

would absolutely be excited to see what that is and

50:32

how where they're gonna go with that

50:35

series. I don't think we're gonna

50:37

get to see it but I would love to. I

50:40

quite like to do their own sort of resi

50:42

will showcase streams on their own don't they? Yeah.

50:45

What are you thinking? I

50:48

would love to see Half-Life Alex

50:50

released on PSVR 2. I

50:53

think it's the best VR game ever. It

50:56

has an amazing story and it's so

50:59

important like if

51:01

you like Half-Life you're like the end of

51:03

this has such a massive impact on Half-Life

51:05

2 and if we ever get it what

51:08

will happen in Half-Life 3 and I feel

51:10

like having it where it is right now

51:12

is such a shame because there's so many

51:14

people that don't get to experience that

51:17

and I mean I deal with trailers

51:19

right every day for like my job and

51:21

I've seen more recently PSVR I didn't

51:24

have like the best lineup

51:26

of games like when it came out and

51:28

it is slowly getting more and more stuff

51:30

and I think this could be like a

51:32

system seller for that easily. Yeah I'd give

51:34

it a go despite like I like Half-Life

51:36

and despite every piece of footage I see

51:38

this game looking quite terrifying and probably

51:41

maybe ill. It's not

51:44

my idea of a two funner time but I do

51:46

also kind of like

51:48

it is like heralded as the greatest VR game

51:50

and it does look like incredible so

51:52

I feel like I owe it to myself to at

51:54

least at least give it a go if it did

51:56

come to PSVR 2. I do feel like as an

51:58

industry we're kind of screwing over the chances

52:00

of VR becoming a lot

52:03

more successful by limiting

52:05

the big games to individual

52:11

devices like Assassin's Creed game but it's

52:13

only on the meta quest. You've got

52:15

Half-Life Alyx but it's only on the...

52:17

what was it on? Tell me the

52:19

name of it. I've forgotten. Which one sorry? Half-Life Alyx?

52:22

Oh, Alyx is on like the index. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

52:25

The Valve index. And then you've

52:27

got some obviously PlayStation 1's

52:29

a PlayStation. I feel like if

52:31

we could just all agree on one

52:33

device. I know all the games out.

52:36

It's technically the same as console excuses

52:38

but the buy-in right for just like

52:40

one game is ridiculous. Yeah and VR

52:43

is a tough sell anyway to the mainstream so

52:45

if it's neat to put its best foot forward

52:47

it all needs to be focused on one device.

52:49

It's not going to happen obviously. I

52:52

mean PlayStation released it VR console

52:54

this year and haven't really released a

52:56

game worth playing for it for nine

52:58

months so who knows what they're doing. Although

53:02

what ResiVR? Resi4VR I

53:04

think is coming up. I've got VR.

53:06

Wait for December I think. I

53:08

don't need to play that game in VR. I've never

53:10

played a ResiVR in VR because I don't

53:13

play VR games anyway but yeah

53:15

why would I play that in VR? I

53:17

don't know. I'm

53:20

gonna pick. I wanna. This

53:24

is based off no intel. I've got a sneaking suspicion

53:27

the next God of War game will be a bit like

53:29

they did with Lost Legacy. Oh. For

53:31

Unguided and it'll be. I think I might

53:33

have said this when we did our spoiler cards for Ragnarok but

53:35

I feel like they'll take their

53:37

time for the next Kratos God

53:39

of War on they'll take a good few years to

53:42

decide where it'll take place what that's like what to

53:44

do next to them so I feel like we'll get a

53:47

shorter maybe 10 to 15 hour God of

53:49

War game at some point which is maybe

53:52

Atreus and Thrud from

53:54

God of War. Shield server's more of the

53:57

Kratos replacement and you can kind of use

53:59

similar gameplay. that they did in Ragnarok.

54:01

And it's just a little side adventure, maybe

54:03

a little giant journey. Trying to

54:06

find some giants or something like that. Get

54:09

them old, what's their name? Angraboda?

54:12

Angraboda, that's it. Get her involved as

54:14

well. No, I felt like

54:16

they'll do that just to tie people over.

54:19

I'm not saying it's coming soon, if we're

54:21

lucky. It'll come soon. But I'm just feeling

54:23

that sort of thing. I

54:26

could absolutely see that happening. I think we spoke about

54:28

at the end of after God of

54:30

War finished, we spoke about that idea, right, of we

54:32

were talking about where could Kratos go next in terms

54:34

of mythology. But it feels like

54:36

they're not quite done with

54:38

the Norse mythology. They could milk it a little bit

54:41

more with something like this. I felt we know a

54:43

lot of what Xbox have come in off next year

54:45

or two. And they've got a lot of exciting looking

54:47

games coming out, whether it's Fable,

54:50

Indiana Jones, Avowed. They've got like

54:52

loads of games we know about.

54:54

PlayStation, we know Wolverine's coming at

54:56

some point. We kind of

54:58

know this Last of Us factions game, like multiplayer's

55:00

coming at some point. Like we don't really know.

55:03

I feel like they've got to show up with something at this. They've

55:06

got stuff like Final Fantasy, which is technically exclusive

55:09

to PlayStation, but it's not a PlayStation Studios

55:11

game. We know Death Stranding, too, is coming

55:14

at some point. But I feel like a

55:17

big PlayStation announcement would be good for

55:19

this. I wouldn't be surprised if they announced Spider-Man

55:22

2's DLC. Or whatever that is. That's true. Yeah,

55:24

I could see that. Because they clearly would have

55:26

been working on it for a while already. And

55:28

they might be like coming in March is some

55:30

sort of maybe some sort of Wolverine tease with

55:33

that. Who knows? I don't know. I

55:35

just want a lot of good stuff. But who knows? We'll

55:38

react to all those next week, I imagine,

55:40

on the podcast. But yeah, there's some dream

55:42

stuff. Who knows? I would

55:44

say write them with your predictions. But by the

55:46

time we've read those out, it'll be too late.

55:48

So don't do that. But thanks

55:50

anyway. Maybe if you're watching the

55:52

game, we'll do some more on Thursday writing. And

55:55

let us know your reactions to any of that stuff. You might

55:58

have a few hours before we were recording it. hilarious

58:02

I can't remember a thing about it and

58:04

then searching for the podcast from there I'm

58:06

also the guitarist in a new rock band

58:09

called Son Set Cobra our first original track

58:11

is out on Friday the first December that's

58:13

today oh my god after

58:15

a couple of pop covers in November just in

58:17

case anyone is looking for a new rock band

58:19

there you go check out Son Set Cobra you

58:22

sung out today anyway we had

58:24

some time left at the end of the recording session this

58:26

week so we had a bash at an endless search theme

58:28

for you so it's not most bands I think that's what

58:30

you know I know Foo Fighters are done with the new

58:32

album should we have a go at an endless search theme

58:35

so that's what we've got it says apologies

58:37

to the folks who said the OG theme

58:40

which is a banger by the way was

58:42

too energetic for it nighttime listen this won't

58:44

solve that keep up the

58:47

wholesome work and respect the sea gravediggers

58:49

and the original endless search theme from

58:51

Jimmy well without ever ado

58:53

here is Son Set cobras endless

58:56

search theme thank

59:15

you very much Jimmy that definitely won't help people

59:17

if they're trying to get to sleep but we

59:19

enjoyed it anyway I think we can agree on

59:22

that I'm loving having all these different genres as

59:24

well keep sending in like new give us a

59:26

new genre as a versions of it I mean it's

59:28

close to my heart but I still think the pop

59:30

punk one is my favorite I was kind of the

59:32

pop but you know what I've

59:35

enjoyed all of them to different extents and

59:37

you know who you are but

59:39

there we go good stuff let's actually

59:42

play a game Emma you've

59:44

got a game for us this week I have got

59:46

a game so this is sent in by

59:48

Lawrence from West Sussex and Lawrence actually it's

59:50

a center earlier in the year but we

59:52

missed it and now

59:56

we're gonna play it it's a very cool idea so

59:58

I'll just read the message that goes along with

1:00:01

it. So Lawrence says, long time, first time and

1:00:03

all that jazz. I've had this idea for an

1:00:05

ender set for a while. Did you know that

1:00:07

Disney produced lots of crazy films in the

1:00:09

late 90s and early 2000s for the Disney channel?

1:00:12

I did. Lawrence, I feel

1:00:14

like this was made for people maybe

1:00:16

of our age cardi

1:00:19

of when you come home from school in the

1:00:21

years. I didn't actually watch many of these though,

1:00:23

but we'll see. I've

1:00:26

seen a few of these, so thank

1:00:28

you for that trip down memory lane,

1:00:30

Lawrence. Yeah, sorry. So yeah,

1:00:32

I made a load of films for the Disney

1:00:34

channel, seemingly produced on a budget of about $12 with

1:00:37

screenwriting done by work experience kids.

1:00:39

Oh, that's a harsh review, but

1:00:41

okay. Anyway, so

1:00:45

can the team from the

1:00:47

title and plot synopsis identify

1:00:49

which ones are actual real

1:00:51

Disney channel original films or

1:00:53

have been invented by Lawrence?

1:00:55

Well, we'll have to try. So this is going to

1:00:57

be a lot of fun. I mean,

1:01:00

I don't know many of these films, but I feel like

1:01:03

hopefully I'll know one. I'll be happy if I know

1:01:05

one. Yeah, but I feel like

1:01:07

you get the vibe where I have no idea

1:01:10

of the vibe of what they're mad. Okay. Some

1:01:12

of them. Yeah, some of them are really, it could

1:01:15

literally be anything. Can you guys

1:01:17

do some good kids doing

1:01:20

weird stuff? Can literally be

1:01:22

anything. I'll bet. There you go.

1:01:25

That's really narrative. You're on the game now. There are

1:01:27

no rules. Okay. So the

1:01:32

first one, so the

1:01:34

title is Zenon Z3.

1:01:36

Okay. I do know of this

1:01:38

one. Oh, okay. So I reckon it

1:01:40

is a film. Do you want me

1:01:43

to read out the synopsis? I

1:01:45

know Zenon. I do want to know. I would. I do want

1:01:47

to hear what it is. Okay. So

1:01:49

this is the conclusion of the Zenon trilogy

1:01:52

following them from 1999 Zenon the 21st century

1:01:54

girl and 2001 Zenon the sequel. I've

1:02:00

seen xenons with a zed then they're not an

1:02:02

x right? Yeah zed. Okay I had

1:02:04

it in my head. I don't actually know if the third

1:02:07

one is that or it's called that. I definitely know xenon

1:02:09

the 21st century girl. I

1:02:11

know that film. So I don't actually know

1:02:13

if the third one exists. This could be

1:02:15

a trick question. This could be a curveball.

1:02:17

But I do think it's probably true. It's

1:02:20

the year 2054. Xenon

1:02:22

Kart is 17 and competing to

1:02:24

win the Galactic Teen Supreme contest

1:02:26

at the Moonstop Festival. What?

1:02:31

She reunites with Moon Preservation

1:02:33

activist Andrea Borealis who is

1:02:36

desperate to keep the moon. Andrea Borealis.

1:02:38

The older sister Aurora. From

1:02:42

being colonised and exploited. During

1:02:46

the latest competition for the Galactic

1:02:48

Teen Supreme contest Moon

1:02:50

Goddess Celine appears and threatens to

1:02:52

destroy the earth. He is up

1:02:54

to xenon and Andrea to save

1:02:56

everyone from this angry deity. You

1:02:59

said Moon Goddess like it was nothing.

1:03:01

Like it was just like perfect. I

1:03:04

shouldn't have said I knew xenon was

1:03:06

real earlier because I wanted to see

1:03:08

if they could work this one

1:03:10

out or not. I do think

1:03:12

this one is unfortunately true. Sounds real to

1:03:15

me. Yeah it's true. Okay

1:03:19

next one. This one's

1:03:21

called Go Figure. Go

1:03:23

Figure follows 14 year old Catelyn in

1:03:25

her quest to become a world class

1:03:28

championship ice skater. When renowned

1:03:30

Russian figure skater, poacher Natasha Boberman

1:03:32

offers to train her at the

1:03:34

private school where she teaches, Catelyn

1:03:36

will do almost anything to take

1:03:38

advantage of the opportunity. Even

1:03:41

join the girls ice hockey

1:03:43

team on scholarship. This

1:03:49

feels like, because he's got to

1:03:51

put fake houses in here. Someone could easily

1:03:53

put together the fake ones. Easily

1:03:55

be true because these were the sort of,

1:03:57

they'd have a lot of the kids sports

1:03:59

films right there was a lot of like

1:04:02

the mighty ducks like like rip-offs basically yeah

1:04:04

this could easily be one it doesn't sound

1:04:06

as absurd yes that's what I'm going off

1:04:08

I'm gonna say it's fake Go

1:04:14

Fig is a good name. If

1:04:17

it is fake it's really well done.

1:04:19

I'm going

1:04:22

with true just to be different I don't know. It

1:04:25

is true and I had this on

1:04:27

BVD. Wow! You got BVD! Is it

1:04:29

a good one then? It's

1:04:32

not great I think like for

1:04:34

a while my sister and I like really like the

1:04:36

idea of ice skating even though we didn't have

1:04:38

lessons or anything we just kind of go and try

1:04:40

and not hold on to the side and so you

1:04:43

know you have like family members who don't know you

1:04:45

very well but they always give you a Christmas

1:04:47

present it was one of those

1:04:49

like oh we're just gonna get you know you know your

1:04:51

kids you probably like Disney we're gonna gave this and

1:04:54

so we did watch it more

1:04:56

than once to be fair. There

1:04:59

we go. It's fine but yeah it's

1:05:01

a real thing. There we go. It

1:05:03

is a good title. Yeah it's

1:05:05

really good. Next

1:05:08

one Freaky Feline Friday. We'll

1:05:14

see. What's it about Emma? Is

1:05:17

it ever a chance by cat swapping

1:05:19

bodies? Hold

1:05:22

on we're gonna find a

1:05:24

cat isn't it? We're gonna

1:05:26

find out okay after her house

1:05:29

gets struck by lightning. Of course. Jane

1:05:32

awakes to find her cat Pickles

1:05:34

and herself have swapped bodies. As

1:05:38

Jane tries to desperately return to normal

1:05:40

Pickles enjoys the new human body and is

1:05:42

willing to do anything to stop Jane.

1:05:45

Jesus that sounds like

1:05:47

it could be a horror film as well.

1:05:49

I imagine I'm like a cat but in

1:05:51

a human body what the shit they're gelt

1:05:53

to. I've never heard of

1:05:55

this one doesn't mean it's not true. I'm not

1:05:59

feeling it. I'm gonna say this

1:06:01

one's false. I

1:06:04

also feel it's false because

1:06:07

it's too close to Freaky Friday as

1:06:09

well. It doesn't feel like

1:06:11

they'd be able to do it unless it is a

1:06:13

sequel. I feel like they'd call it something different like

1:06:15

Cat Swap or something stupid. Or

1:06:19

Hell Pine Pickles. I mean

1:06:21

it's stupid. I'm going false. It

1:06:24

is false. Yeah we worked that one

1:06:26

out. You're by for it. Okay

1:06:29

next one. Helps my brother as

1:06:31

a zombie. Following

1:06:33

the tragic death of her brother Rob

1:06:36

in a car accident, teenager Katie fumbles

1:06:38

across an ancient magic book at a

1:06:40

local creepy bookstore. After accidentally

1:06:43

casting a Raising the Dead spell. Oh

1:06:45

I always happens accidentally. Just accidentally

1:06:47

reading it out perfectly. Accidentally cast

1:06:49

the spell. Rob

1:06:52

rises from the grave. Overjoyed at

1:06:54

having a second chance in life, Rob

1:06:56

is keen to rediscover the world. However

1:06:58

Katie knows this is a bad idea

1:07:00

and so keeps Rob hidden away at

1:07:02

home. Until the school Halloween disco proves

1:07:05

to be the perfect opportunity to let

1:07:07

Rob enjoy one more night as a

1:07:09

teenager. But after he fails to return

1:07:11

home, Katie is left with the diameter

1:07:13

of what to do with her zombie

1:07:15

brother. Hmm.

1:07:19

I... It sounds like

1:07:21

a goosebumps book. That's exactly why I thought in

1:07:23

my head this is like a goosebumps book or

1:07:25

something. And that sounds like a remit of those

1:07:27

sort of movies as well. I feel like we're

1:07:29

being tricked here. I feel like this

1:07:31

is like a goosebumps story or something. It seems

1:07:33

too dark for a... These

1:07:35

Disney Channel films would not start with a brother dying

1:07:37

in a car crash. I mean

1:07:40

Disney love killing family members in

1:07:42

general. They're not like... Like... I

1:07:45

don't know. Like parents. But it's fine to kill them off

1:07:47

when you know you're bringing them back. Erm

1:07:49

maybe. But I think the

1:07:51

element of like not letting... Like

1:07:53

in a Disney film I feel like your ghost brother

1:07:55

came back. It'd be like... Oh, the funny hijinks we

1:07:58

can get off of. Not. come

1:08:00

back as a cat not to keep him like

1:08:02

every clue and then it's just that ET moment

1:08:04

of now it's Halloween now you're allowed out the

1:08:06

house. Yeah it's just it's too dark for me

1:08:09

it feels more like a goosebumps or are you

1:08:11

afraid of the dark or something like that so

1:08:13

I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say it's bollocks.

1:08:15

I'm gonna say it's true just for fun. It

1:08:19

is false. Ahhh. So

1:08:21

you're going with your gut down. Yeah I knew it was

1:08:23

false. I crawled back points digging on them. Alright

1:08:26

and this is the final one. Okay. Final

1:08:29

can of worms. Mike

1:08:32

Pillsbury is a teenage boy who believes

1:08:34

that he's an alien and doesn't belong

1:08:36

on earth. Mike

1:08:38

uses a satellite dish to send a

1:08:40

message to outer space asking to be

1:08:42

rescued. The next day an alien

1:08:45

dog named Barnabus appears with the

1:08:47

ability to speak for a translating

1:08:49

device. Barnabus

1:08:51

explains that because of Mike the

1:08:53

Stargate door has been opened. Barnabus

1:08:57

explains that time is limited. As

1:08:59

other aliens with ulterior motives are

1:09:01

travelling through the Stargate to find Mike.

1:09:07

It goes on but I feel like we've that's

1:09:09

probably enough. What is the story

1:09:12

there? Yeah where's the story going?

1:09:14

Okay I can please carry on. Mike

1:09:18

then meets the bomb. An

1:09:20

alien lawyer insisting on having Mike

1:09:23

sue earth BOM. Sorry

1:09:27

on having Mike sue earth for

1:09:30

millions of galactic credits for

1:09:32

pain and suffering due to the

1:09:34

planet's substandard living conditions. He's

1:09:37

suing the earth. It seems

1:09:40

like a weirdly bureaucratic sort of kids film.

1:09:42

But it also feels like very childlike the

1:09:44

fact that it's so like yeah

1:09:46

the idea of suing the earth. Like

1:09:49

who pays that debt? I'm

1:09:51

kind of talking

1:09:53

because it doesn't sound very fun or interesting to

1:09:55

me. But also it's

1:09:57

oddly detailed but that could just mean it's.

1:10:00

something I like taken from something else. Lawrence

1:10:02

could have just had a Eureka

1:10:04

moment there and

1:10:06

really getting into it. I'm

1:10:09

going to let Dale put it first. I think it

1:10:11

is true just on the law of

1:10:13

averages like just seeing how many true and falses we've

1:10:16

had so far I feel like it's probably true. I'll

1:10:18

go for so just to be different. It

1:10:20

is true, it's real, it came out in 1999.

1:10:23

I really like. What

1:10:25

was it called again? Can of worms.

1:10:28

How does that relate to that?

1:10:30

I've no idea. I'm looking it up

1:10:32

now. I suppose once he reached out

1:10:34

to the aliens they've opened a can

1:10:36

of worms about this galactic issue. Sue

1:10:38

in the earth. It

1:10:40

looks absolutely awful. Can

1:10:43

of worms.

1:10:46

Thank you very much Lawrence. I

1:10:48

remember actually there was

1:10:50

one that I watched that I think was

1:10:53

Disney that was about time travel and

1:10:55

that one was as a kid I was like actually

1:10:57

this is quite good. I can't remember what it was

1:10:59

called but I was impressed with it at the time

1:11:01

enough to, I think I should even

1:11:04

show my parents like look at this movie. Michael

1:11:06

McDowell played Barnabas. There

1:11:09

we go. What a role for him.

1:11:13

Right let's move on. I

1:11:15

enjoyed that. Thank you Lawrence. Even if

1:11:17

it was a lot of madness. We've got your

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feedback to get through IGN underscore UK

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do. Send us an email. OK. What do

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you want. Something nice. OK. So nice. Yeah.

1:11:30

OK. You've got a couple of nice ones. When

1:11:32

you read the first one. OK. Yeah this is

1:11:35

from Josh and he says hello all. I just

1:11:37

wanted to say that I'm finding Dale's dad stories

1:11:39

very wholesome. I look forward to

1:11:41

hearing more stories about Donovan and his ride through

1:11:43

the ranks at Coventry City. Just to be clear

1:11:45

my son real life son is not called Donovan.

1:11:48

Although it was floated for a minute. I'm

1:11:52

also a big advocate of the original endless search

1:11:54

theme but they did such a cracking job with

1:11:57

a low five version. I mean I

1:11:59

am in support of it. being subbed in from time to

1:12:01

time. Well you got your wish today Josh. Yeah

1:12:03

we get it. Well I wasn't a lo-fi one but

1:12:05

yeah. You got a different version. Different

1:12:08

versions. How is, do

1:12:10

you think like, obviously you're

1:12:12

still playing full manager. Yeah

1:12:14

we just can't stop coming. When you

1:12:16

get your next son are you going to rename

1:12:18

him Alfie? I

1:12:20

don't, you can't, I suppose there isn't in game edits

1:12:22

on the phone. Can you not rename on the phone? There isn't in

1:12:24

game edits but I just never do it. You

1:12:27

can give him nicknames. I have had multiples, I

1:12:29

just know how to do it so I've had

1:12:31

multiple sins since but I just, they're

1:12:33

always, the names aren't just funny enough or their story

1:12:35

isn't funny enough for me. Surely you've got to change

1:12:38

them all to Alfie now because that's like your actual...

1:12:40

Yeah maybe. Unless they're terrible and

1:12:42

you kick them out of the club. Well that's

1:12:45

the thing, sometimes you get these players, they're very

1:12:47

mediocre players. Mediocre sums. Donovan made it to the

1:12:49

England team. Like he only got like six caps

1:12:51

but he made it to the England team so

1:12:53

he was like noteworthy with a silly name. I

1:12:57

think he was also, wasn't he

1:12:59

one that was like English was his second

1:13:01

language I think as well. Even

1:13:03

though it was a really funny story but

1:13:06

yeah sometimes they're just pretty boring. If

1:13:09

you don't know what we're talking about check out the

1:13:11

It's Football Day stream

1:13:13

of this podcast we did. I know

1:13:15

it was six or eight episodes we did all

1:13:17

about 4 Manager about four years ago. Yeah four

1:13:19

or five years ago. I think Donovan, was Donovan

1:13:21

in that or was that just separate? I don't

1:13:23

think Donovan was before that. I think it's because

1:13:25

I announced it on the normal podcast because I

1:13:27

thought it was hilarious and I just wanted to

1:13:29

tell people about Donovan. I've

1:13:33

been playing a lot of football manager the last couple of weeks

1:13:36

actually. I started as

1:13:38

Ganbar Osaka in Japan just in case anyone

1:13:40

cares. Won the title

1:13:42

second season of course. The

1:13:44

whole idea was I was going to come from the relative

1:13:46

bottom and work my way up and like go to some

1:13:49

different European leagues try and work my way up. But then

1:13:51

Leeds just came in for me. I was like well I

1:13:53

can't turn that down. Straight

1:13:56

to the Premier League because they were in it at the time

1:13:58

and now I've won. I won it three

1:14:00

years later. So I'm just like, right, let's go,

1:14:03

Emma, we've got an email. So

1:14:05

this is from Joshua and Sophia. Hi,

1:14:09

Ai-Jin UK crew. I was sad to hear about the

1:14:11

state of the bluey game on last week's pod, as

1:14:13

I was looking forward to introducing my toddler to games

1:14:15

for the first time as she loves the show. I

1:14:17

still love it. However,

1:14:20

what I was even more sad about was

1:14:22

the dismissal of one of the best shows

1:14:24

on TV. I

1:14:27

mean, we hadn't seen it. Like, hadn't

1:14:29

Jesse maybe watched a couple of episodes? I

1:14:31

think Jesse's the only one who might have seen it. Yeah,

1:14:35

I haven't. I haven't watched it, but my niece

1:14:37

loves it and she

1:14:39

has good taste usually. Not

1:14:44

just kids shows, all shows like how The

1:14:46

Simpsons treads the line between kids, cartoon and

1:14:48

adult bluey does the same thing in a

1:14:50

far more elegant and poignant way. With

1:14:52

or Without Kids is a great watch. And the

1:14:55

amount of times I've shed a tear over just

1:14:57

seven minutes of TV is quite frankly embarrassing. With

1:14:59

or Without Kids. So you're just sitting there without kids watching

1:15:02

it. Just watching bluey. I'm sure it's a great show, but

1:15:04

it does feel like an odd choice to watch without kids.

1:15:07

Maybe we need to tune in, Dad. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, we're

1:15:09

missing out on bluey. This

1:15:12

is specifically for Dale. Everything you need to

1:15:14

know about being a dad in this show

1:15:16

is in this show, sorry. So

1:15:19

get studying. Yeah, be a dog. Yeah. On

1:15:22

it. Kinda regards and respect

1:15:24

the sea, Joshua and Sophia. And then

1:15:26

there's some recommendations for Eppler. There's one that's

1:15:28

really, there's one here that I really want to

1:15:30

watch. Curry Quest. What

1:15:36

recommendations have we got, Emma? So we've got Grandad,

1:15:39

Bodlewalls, Sleepy Time,

1:15:42

Campin, Promises, Copycat, Flatpak

1:15:44

and Curry Quest. Curry Quest, absolutely.

1:15:46

Curry, anything called Curry Quest. How can you not

1:15:48

watch that? That's a good name for an episode.

1:15:51

The rest of them are kind of like children's

1:15:53

show fodder in it, but yeah, Curry Quest. These

1:15:56

are recommendations. I'll check out, I'll make this deal.

1:15:58

I will check out the Curry Quest. episode

1:16:01

of Bluey. I'm intrigued by Flatpak, is

1:16:03

that going to be like they go to IKEA and

1:16:05

order a furniture? I assume you can

1:16:07

watch any episode in every order, you

1:16:10

don't have to be like following the

1:16:12

law and know all the characters. I

1:16:14

imagine there's not a DPA. But who

1:16:16

knows, Baby Race sounds good

1:16:18

as well actually. They're getting some babies

1:16:20

to race maybe. Flatpak is going to

1:16:22

be the IKEA episode right, building some

1:16:24

furniture. Camping, not into

1:16:27

that one in my... Curry quest

1:16:29

though, absolutely. Anyway,

1:16:32

I've got an email from Tom Rankin, it says

1:16:34

Hyle. Just listening to last

1:16:36

week's podcast where you were discussing

1:16:38

exotic food. The most

1:16:40

exotic food I've probably had is

1:16:42

reindeer carpaccio while on holiday in

1:16:44

Tromsø, Norway back in 2017. Looked

1:16:49

grim but it was a scrumptious meal. They

1:16:51

also had whale on the menu. But after

1:16:53

watching Blackfish, I'm afraid dolphin and whale is

1:16:56

a no-go for me. Would you eat whale, Emma,

1:16:58

as like revenge for them scaring you?

1:17:01

I don't think so. Like they scare me but

1:17:03

it's not their fault, you know? That I

1:17:06

can't hold that against them. That's my problem with them. You'd

1:17:09

eat whale wouldn't you Dad? I'd sit on your face.

1:17:11

Oh absolutely try it, yeah. I wouldn't make it a

1:17:13

regular part of my diet but I'd give anything a

1:17:15

go, why not? Okay,

1:17:17

fair enough.

1:17:19

Just an extra point about video games being

1:17:22

made into films or series. I've always thought

1:17:24

Gears of War would have been really good

1:17:26

to make RIP Dom and there

1:17:28

have been a few rumours floating about over the

1:17:30

years. I think, yeah,

1:17:33

there's never been anything confirmed. I think people

1:17:35

have always said, oh I like Gears of

1:17:37

War. Was it Dave Batiste who's always like,

1:17:40

I'd love to do it. Batiste

1:17:43

has been petitioning for it for a long time and also

1:17:45

it does

1:17:48

seem mad that he can't make it happen.

1:17:51

I mean, you'd feel like he'd have enough sway in Hollywood

1:17:53

where they could grieve like it. He's the right budge and

1:17:55

the right people. Wasn't Zack Snyder involved

1:17:57

at one point? I

1:18:00

think he likes, he's always said he likes,

1:18:02

is he always, I felt like he said

1:18:04

he likes Gears of War? I don't know.

1:18:06

How would, he's friends with Batista right? Because

1:18:08

of army, they're dead. You can't, how would

1:18:10

a Hollywood studio not greenlight Zack Snyder and

1:18:12

Dave Batista Gears of War movie? I

1:18:15

don't know, we haven't seen Ruffle Moon yet. So

1:18:17

we'll see how it plays out. No, it could

1:18:19

be shite but the point I'm saying is it

1:18:21

could still make money. If Zack Snyder's on the

1:18:23

headline of it and Dave Batista. Maybe they're being

1:18:25

more picky with game things now. We've had some

1:18:27

good ones that like pick it, you

1:18:29

know, who knows. Anyway,

1:18:31

now sorry for the long email but it leads me

1:18:34

to my question. Are there any games you really wanted

1:18:36

to play but just couldn't because they only came out

1:18:38

on a certain console. I only got

1:18:40

up to Gears of War judgment due to changing from 360

1:18:42

to PS4. There

1:18:44

we go, there's a question for you. Have you ever,

1:18:47

well I suppose like ever, yeah not had that you

1:18:49

want to play a game but you just couldn't because

1:18:51

you'd have to pay like 300 quid just to play

1:18:53

it. I suppose Half-Life Alyx is one for me. Yeah,

1:18:55

exactly the same I think. Yeah, but that's more, I

1:18:58

mean the device expensive but less like I'd run a

1:19:00

non-VR version of it. I know VR is fundamental to

1:19:02

the game but I don't know VR but I'd like

1:19:04

to play it. Not

1:19:08

much else. I'm like we're in

1:19:10

a very privileged position that we usually have access to

1:19:12

the console. I don't see more back to when I

1:19:15

was a kid. Like I definitely was jealous of my

1:19:17

friends because I didn't get a PS2 until a

1:19:20

few years into its release. So like there's definitely

1:19:22

times where I go to my mates house. It's

1:19:24

just like ah I wish I could go and

1:19:26

play GTA and stuff like that.

1:19:28

I just can't. There was a period where

1:19:30

I didn't have a Nintendo 64 but my

1:19:32

friends did and I did regularly want to

1:19:34

play GoldenEye

1:19:36

and the WWF games and stuff that were on

1:19:38

there. But then

1:19:40

I eventually got one so it doesn't

1:19:42

really answer that question. No,

1:19:45

I'm trying to think. I think

1:19:47

mine wasn't a console but it

1:19:49

was more like controllers. But my

1:19:52

friend next to me, I don't know,

1:19:54

maybe you guys were these friends. But

1:19:57

I had a friend who had every single game. Their parents

1:19:59

were just like... buy them everything they wanted and

1:20:01

I remember I really wanted to try out like

1:20:03

okay fair enough yeah

1:20:07

like I was I was really envious this friend but

1:20:09

they were nicely let me use all their stuff but

1:20:12

I really wanted to try playing like a racing game

1:20:14

with the wheel and the pedals and all that I

1:20:16

thought that was like so cool as a kid and

1:20:18

like yeah we just had regular controllers and I remember

1:20:20

going to their house and playing like some racing games

1:20:22

for the first time and I was like this is

1:20:25

amazing I remember coming back and asking my parents they

1:20:27

were like no you'll play it for like five minutes

1:20:29

and you won't want to touch it again it's a

1:20:32

fair assessment I'd say yeah which is

1:20:34

probably right because yeah I don't have one now

1:20:36

so also I live in

1:20:38

a world where you got to minimize the amount of plastic tat in

1:20:40

your house because we were talking about rock band earlier and I was

1:20:42

just like god like imagine when

1:20:44

you remember when you used to just have all that

1:20:46

stuff lying around Emma you probably still do have it

1:20:49

all lying around yeah

1:20:51

but we do have a wardrobe where we

1:20:53

have like most of the controllers but did

1:20:55

you know that the rock band stuff now

1:20:57

it's like hard to get hold of controllers

1:20:59

that still work there's if you go on

1:21:01

like eBay and stuff they are so expensive

1:21:03

some of them just USB like USB cabled up

1:21:06

like I know most a lot of them were

1:21:08

wireless dongles right but they were USB wireless dongles

1:21:10

so they should just work shouldn't they yeah

1:21:12

like they I think obviously over time

1:21:14

they get broken people throw them out I've got

1:21:17

a much harder to get now what have I got

1:21:19

I've got the I think

1:21:21

it's a John Lennon and Rick and backup from

1:21:23

rock band Beatles I've still got that around my

1:21:25

house somewhere but yeah I

1:21:27

have to dig out one day dude

1:21:29

when I thought we were talking about it earlier

1:21:31

and I mean I was like the real urge

1:21:33

to get rock band the guitar hero out is

1:21:35

growing I might have to do it I haven't

1:21:38

played in a few years yeah guitar hero 3

1:21:40

like I got that at Christmas and so

1:21:42

to me that is like my Christmas game

1:21:44

and I think we're gonna play through it

1:21:46

like co-op again just because it's like it's

1:21:48

so much fun the tracklist is so good

1:21:50

as well the thing I love about like rock band

1:21:52

stuff is that there's so many songs on that they're like

1:21:55

because it's probably been like four years five years since

1:21:57

I've played it there's probably songs on there now that

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