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And welcome to the Idea in

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Uk podcast. We've got big old

1:05

mash up of old and new

1:07

things today and I'm not talking

1:10

about mappers limit not Japan's which

1:12

when we must wear the same

1:14

age as a lot I'm the

1:16

fresh young voice them on I

1:18

in in this trio how we

1:20

both did you eat, eat it.

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But. Too bad Thank you Simon! Good.

1:25

Nice. Nice nice your your head out

1:28

for design. Quite fun next week on.

1:30

Yeah, I think I should probably not

1:32

tell people that to like combat. Well

1:34

I'm not gonna spoil it, but you

1:36

are a very low employer to say

1:39

the least. We've got lots said. We

1:41

got a big old mash up of

1:43

things to. They've got older new, we've

1:45

got games, the. What? To over

1:48

twenty years old games the a days

1:50

old got films that fifty years old

1:52

ago films that have anyone come out

1:54

yes the saw a thing we do.

1:57

Here. Let's just let's just kicking off

1:59

a thing. With them. The.

2:01

Most important. Thing

2:03

we need to cover in is what's

2:05

your favorite source much as well as

2:07

far as I think about this also

2:09

emphasized as if you've ever had or

2:11

Konami actually saw us before. Ah really

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go to feel bad like an economy

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a key like a pancake that's like

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a savory one. You have cabbage and

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bacon and at really good spot per

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alcohol. Me a key source on a

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bacon sandwich is fantastic Is my go

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to now and we go that is.

2:28

A. Little tip that from.

2:31

All. The way from Japan. Which

2:33

had our let's go on about of

2:36

i have been an accident me as

2:38

oh right you've seen a film month.

2:40

I'm very excited about the I want

2:42

to see very much by Can't Disappear

2:44

and that is Alice Garlands Civil War

2:46

is all about it So it's all

2:48

right. Is I Alex Garland one of

2:50

those directors were like even if not

2:52

for even a slight not all of

2:54

it hits. I will still go and

2:56

see everything that interfaces. Am I the

2:58

I think I enjoyed watching men but

3:01

I do think it's one of his

3:03

weakest. Ones I didn't lot yeah, know, he

3:05

may night. At that it. Was

3:07

intriguing but I also yeah think it didn't

3:09

work mean something that he really likes to

3:11

play around with. that actually my pillow bit

3:13

of a spoiler for the some by went

3:15

took by the too much but if like

3:17

this dismantling of what it means to be

3:19

like you know important. And

3:22

theis like at the very end of man

3:24

I really love that like misinform and sorry

3:26

but if like this display ten minute long

3:28

transformation seen with this like grow stayed

3:30

and like by the end of at the

3:33

main characters is bored if i should be

3:35

really horrifying thing that's happening. It's just like

3:37

minutes is gonna reflected my experience with the

3:40

film Fit a quick access by really like

3:42

that so even if it's like that a

3:44

notice for interesting ideas even if it doesn't

3:46

with the if that the for with rape

3:49

and civil war I really loved am I

3:51

think we given eight which I think is

3:53

is totally accurate there some moments I think

3:55

a really clever some moments I think are

3:57

kind of a little dull. number of. Nutley.

4:00

really cool and it's about A

4:02

and it's about America which is

4:04

a country to the west of

4:06

that. Glad to say metro depending

4:08

where you are yet as it

4:10

had no choice to the west

4:12

has been I've been have another

4:14

Havana there. Any grams of the

4:16

mapping that we have done in

4:18

in the like modern era yes

4:20

certainly a really good that assistant

4:22

editor for the Globe earlier today

4:24

the development the i guess what

4:26

actual west his own of the

4:28

article of gets surly. Wes I think

4:31

that you are lucky Mckay and Protection Geico

4:33

maps. He big almost like you know that

4:35

I gotta give us. Had heard about the

4:37

fact that the map is wrong the the

4:39

country for the wrong sizes as well you

4:41

the thing is a law people he have

4:43

a look at a map and they go

4:45

wild Oats flat when actually it's rounds and

4:47

has since his Israel my I'm gonna drop

4:49

some bumps. Have I have any like Mara?

4:51

What sort of the math? guess like it's

4:54

the wrong size. Everything to for the size

4:56

of America is not what it looks like

4:58

on our Glorious. As soon as I can.

5:00

Imagine my and slight the oceans to this.

5:02

Yeah, they're not quite in and Greenland is

5:04

like seven times bigger than it actually is

5:07

given to Malik shipping routes so we should

5:09

use a different map. We should use a

5:11

mood. I get me started on Kamchatka and

5:13

a lot of us going to risk as

5:16

this is a fictionalized America in this film.

5:18

Weather's to sit as a new Civil war

5:20

going on as know about the old the

5:23

Hunt the one in what Not gonna gonna

5:25

gonna say the exo get it wrong over

5:27

two hundred fifty years ago that anyway if

5:29

a modern. Civil War. ah and so

5:32

it's and like current day and

5:34

it uses like that framing as

5:36

a like oh he can imagine

5:38

it happening in America like this

5:40

is a exactly what happens everywhere

5:42

else but in Pizza American lends

5:44

to at am I think really

5:46

well acted the say like breakout

5:48

performance by ah. I

5:51

think we really like him in the Sky.

5:53

Jesse Finance is an affront. couple things and

5:55

it's copies really good bits of like. Pockets.

5:58

Of not say. He

6:00

didn't like. Just because the Civil War

6:02

is going on over pretty much the

6:04

entire A of America doesn't mean the

6:06

everybody's being affected by in the same

6:08

roots and those moments. A really really

6:10

cool. And. Yeah I

6:13

think check this out City gallop kinda

6:15

and in I don't mean size hanukkah.

6:17

I did mean a hundred and fifty

6:19

is not turn to be. As for

6:21

I can email telling me I'm thinking

6:23

of the revolution and not the civil

6:25

anyway sorry my question. oh wow this

6:27

is because I've only seen the trailers

6:29

for and I haven't really it adults

6:31

too deep on it basically waiting for

6:33

you to tell me that's an. Easy.

6:36

It's a film that is based

6:38

on the current Culture War Room

6:40

What the potential evolution of it

6:42

could be Or is it. More.

6:45

Fictionalized in that. Thankfully.

6:47

If strays from being really deliberate about what

6:49

the causes of anything on it has moments

6:51

where it says that like is it better

6:54

great line that like the report as are

6:56

in a car that talking about the questions

6:58

that they would ask the precedent if they

7:00

got the opportunity to and they like softball

7:02

and they were like oh so when you

7:04

i decided to go into a third time

7:06

what would the decisions that that led to

7:08

a that so a thing like you realize

7:11

that it might be as a consequence of

7:13

the decisions that the president is making. Also

7:15

it might be that the president. Has been

7:17

led to be making those decisions based on

7:19

other i think suspensions about some so much

7:21

as they is. Kind. Of war

7:23

film has not seen free What the soldiers

7:26

are rising through these war journalist eyes which

7:28

is like a different angle or i you're

7:30

not in a is not your typical going

7:32

on a mission necessarily is trying to navigate

7:34

any kind of them and treat my is

7:36

that a. I. Don't I

7:39

asked him us and cases the spoil it for like

7:41

is. Off. The Alex guns

7:43

the Something that isn't oh Sy

7:45

Fi related light historically reference Twenty

7:47

Eight like a Sunshine that Euro

7:49

or to read or lacks Mack

7:51

know it's every what recently and

7:53

really love this time around. Annihilation

7:55

I think is unbelievably good or

7:57

that some on it's on several.

8:00

Like this is just a very grounded

8:02

film. like to see. A. D C

8:04

I was no by by oh no idea

8:06

he just pulls it off. Yes,

8:08

Was their meager? I'm. Italian

8:11

leather. In terms of thematically, ben is

8:13

the is it very much about. War.

8:16

As opposed to cause of war. Yeah,

8:18

I think it is totally about the

8:20

way that we perceive. Like

8:23

events My I think it's about by

8:25

people's drive to do certain things like

8:27

I think that's the core of s

8:29

It's like why is anybody doing anything

8:31

that they're doing. Is absolutely the

8:34

the core of this one? Ominous

8:36

on the out front of a T weeks

8:39

by. Rarely do you want to say this

8:41

is haven't seen Imax as well which so

8:43

we you and ah screening Alex Collins there

8:46

at the the front and he just gets

8:48

a very short little chap me says lights

8:50

on we were filming this we didn't even

8:52

know these cameras could do I max so

8:55

he got us sucks there I do like

8:57

as go with both Spence if he is

8:59

a very like marathon linked. To

9:02

the point, I'm. I'm really looking

9:05

forward to what's this and I hope

9:07

I in. Joy it

9:09

from. Lousy at La.

9:11

added a highly know that glasses bout

9:13

with for the as far as I

9:15

work out how to segue from Civil

9:18

war to than a Princess Peach Strong

9:20

female leads with ever the been a

9:22

civil war in the Mushroom Kingdom a

9:24

way that allows for outcomes they may

9:26

have met. Ran is that civil I

9:28

that neither am Princess Peach. You can

9:31

plan that one as well. Matt I'm

9:33

mean I cannot. Avatar: Merlot

9:35

says chemical ali lox. And. It's

9:37

fun enough. Nothing there to really go like

9:39

You need to play. This game is that

9:42

let what is the cell factors that it

9:44

is too simple I think is a thing

9:46

that you need to take away from this

9:48

one. I think that it's called quite a

9:50

lot hop and there are moments in there

9:53

were like the thing that happens in as

9:55

the you will princess Peach. You go into

9:57

a new level, you'll get a new power

9:59

and. That power interacts with the level and

10:01

some interesting way I'm and but you only

10:04

really, you press a button that isn't jump

10:06

in order to pretty much do everything at

10:08

At. And it means that it's mostly by

10:10

interacting with the environment and then like if

10:12

you see an enemy press a button. And

10:14

some games that really works and for this

10:17

one it's just a little bit too simplistic.

10:19

There really isn't enough going on. But.

10:22

Despite that, there are moments where that

10:24

a as a real late a lack

10:26

of mechanical flourish also means that like

10:28

be moments for the animation is really

10:30

good stand out. there are bits where

10:32

if you're playing as like ninja peach

10:34

there are lots of really interesting incidental

10:37

animation stuff where if you like on

10:39

the water shall have a read that

10:41

she pokes I'll ah and if you're

10:43

in the grass hold up like pictures

10:45

of grass and as he passed against

10:47

a wall and should be holding up

10:49

a lake costs that looks like. The

10:52

like the texture behind her and this is

10:54

only for like the span of a very

10:56

small level when this happens and get some

10:58

lot of detail and it and a fact

11:00

that it's mechanically like on debates makes all

11:03

of that the like are they put a

11:05

lot of effort into making the slip look

11:07

really cool which during this stuff less kind

11:09

of madness and ten day like thing of

11:11

like a given you one thing for a

11:13

lower I need never used again that like

11:16

those a guy it's like in mario games

11:18

much more sinister light Merrigan swear those things.

11:21

Are. Each fantastic and they will let equally

11:23

good and they keep the momentum. Games like

11:25

wonder if this game like Nintendo games as

11:27

a rule kind of get like painted just

11:29

as the sold Us Army games disks that

11:31

presentation will net and whereas a lot Merrick

11:33

and stuff like him get very difficult unlike

11:35

in it you would necessary give it to

11:38

wickets. is this one thing more k it

11:40

I think for Elgin fam Mario specifically as

11:42

difficult as you want to make up for

11:44

most of them even the to the in

11:46

three day for this one is just simple

11:48

on his face and I think that will

11:50

frustrate. Quite a lot of people I think you'll get through

11:52

and and often him. There is no

11:55

I I I I don't think is one

11:57

for me necessarily but it of Lena so

11:59

his guitar. His mom for the

12:01

kids. The man. In I think see

12:03

a first game ever. I think he could do

12:05

this. I. Think there are moments like this,

12:07

a little bit of timing, the eat meat, that even

12:10

the sense that the controller for that one as sai

12:12

is that platform Is it like a good like Care

12:14

Law and True Love like an entry points other Marissa

12:16

games Yeah I can see the send you in the

12:19

being your first game ever and I don't think you

12:21

have a problem with it. Maybe.

12:23

Yeah. I'm. Got any interest in this

12:25

one that. Not. All such

12:28

as they we get very

12:30

guy surrogates I'm I've really

12:32

been them. Plan. And a

12:34

new game Five Some work my free midnight

12:36

sums again which I'm obsolete and I'm loving

12:38

them and get in. There was going on.

12:41

Dates replace. Am I Am I'm

12:43

trying, I'm trying to. I've done my all

12:45

the mysteries around except in the law around

12:47

the grounds of the mentioned except for one

12:49

which requires like summoning a meteor essentially and

12:51

I need to go star gazing base not

12:54

every night the star gazing ups in isn't

12:56

them. so let me go star gazing we've

12:58

I don't know. Spiderman awesome them might let

13:00

me do it. I

13:02

love Wolverine in that game I use him

13:05

as lots of is Maureen. Is this how

13:07

he not lot wolverine as a character he

13:09

says has meant. That

13:11

yeah minutes on this good if he if

13:13

he didn't know about my arms or a

13:15

for over fifty hours into Bullet Trader how

13:18

cause I can pull up my my phone

13:20

as well. I bet it's more it's on.

13:22

Try to do every child sound some of

13:24

those are I'm all for dromedary challenge you

13:26

have of sixty seven hours of electricity percent

13:28

and we're going to that yeah as exciting

13:31

really like I think it's making their game

13:33

of idealist like oh is it my a

13:35

similar top few at the moment that yeah

13:37

I'm economies I've just been much I love

13:39

films. One of those is actually. A new

13:41

film. I'll go to the old ones lay,

13:43

I don't worry. Cousins had a lot the

13:45

old films from the one I watched His

13:48

driveway dogs are you? Have you seen Dr.

13:50

Ladles? I haven't may have not known is

13:52

the new film from Ethan Coen. one half

13:54

of the Coen Brothers and it's you can

13:56

kind of tell. pray quickly. This is a

13:58

not In. I saw a Coen Brothers. There's

14:00

only one of them based got that tone of like.

14:03

They don't make all these movies beforehand if

14:05

they didn't like making this type of movies

14:08

exactly as like that. Kind of like when

14:10

I think what camera zoom it's like a

14:12

crime caper with a lot comedy. That's kind

14:14

of what like if he told me says

14:16

like you know right outline of com by

14:18

someone else would it be and this is

14:20

what this is like. An hour and twenty

14:22

minutes is all the so much as get

14:25

it stars Margaret qualify as this system and

14:27

am mad like tax. I think it's a

14:29

Texan at the since she's doing in the

14:31

some some was at Tennessee. heck our buffs.

14:33

S S is weird miss but miss Massive

14:35

and I'm not by no means an expert

14:37

on Southern American accents but is as a

14:40

very entertaining acts and I'm not sure it's

14:42

too accurate. But

14:44

it's her and Geraldine Fish one

14:46

a son who's going on the

14:49

so of road trip and they

14:51

are both gay and like most,

14:53

Clay's character is much more outgoing

14:55

and kinda like sexually. Three and.

14:58

Geraldine. Character is much more reserved.

15:01

This kind of liked her. Try to

15:03

take on this trip to get our

15:05

Albus Cel essentially Spain tree time Brothers

15:08

fashion. A tall they ran for

15:10

this trip has links to some crimes that

15:12

are going on and I'll leave their that

15:14

and they find something in the both one

15:16

day which kind of changes. the course of

15:18

the film is no longer to like, it

15:20

threatens to for the first twenty. Must be

15:22

some sort of like sex comedy road trip

15:24

and it's and is more of a crime

15:27

caper with some very funny cameos and. Just.

15:30

Like. Just. Weirdness going

15:32

on is is quite out that I

15:34

I liked it, didn't love it. It's.

15:37

A. I don't have seen a film

15:39

that has dildo sent to the to

15:41

the plot more than this and I'll

15:44

just leave as that of as it's

15:46

it's not like they are make this

15:48

I like really like or I really

15:50

sexual Full disclosure not as by a

15:52

handful of scenes and like stuff bear

15:54

I do this quite funny and is

15:56

breezy only an hour and twenty minutes

15:58

to think of it. The maybe that go

16:00

Adele Davis for the central to the flaw in

16:03

the only one I can think of it burn

16:05

after reading. So maybe the Coen Brothers or got

16:07

some ago and I think care of I would

16:09

ask people to write him though he prose yeah

16:11

let's leave at once and as unless love mafia

16:14

anyway we'll move on. From the as your defenses

16:16

m Godzilla to his by it's by no means.

16:19

Am I made my like. Top.

16:21

Ten or the when the earless bunnies.

16:23

but his spare fun? an hour and

16:25

twenty minutes at a check out drive?

16:27

How to high Any rate among have

16:30

a say it's not a Cohen Brothers

16:32

film yeah, but is it do things

16:34

and not having the two together is

16:36

is less of a magic recipe. Slightly.

16:41

Yeah this feels like a almost feels like hey

16:43

where you want to know it's not like a

16:45

full budget and my skills like always have fun

16:47

side project he wanted to day if you know

16:50

I mean it wouldn't be but not near the

16:52

bottom of the Coen Brothers like that made a

16:54

law films and to be sad think a lot

16:56

of them a very very good So. In.

16:58

Ib near the bottom and a lot less personal

17:01

makes a good film I think. I'd

17:04

recommend if you look it's not maybe not

17:06

one to exit the parents who the grandparents

17:08

may be misleading. Ah, Ah,

17:12

Ah what have we got next? Map.

17:14

He's. Been going back in time and.

17:17

Played. Through the original Metal Gear Solid

17:19

Trilogy, a hint of find in that. Deaths.

17:22

Very good so that guides on My

17:24

guess is could say so. I is

17:26

a boss. Spotty history with no Gear

17:28

Solid so when I was a kid

17:30

I played Metal Gear Solid to that

17:32

was the and I play the in.

17:34

It's. Substance.

17:36

Form thought was that was what my woman

17:38

who was mess. And.

17:41

I never paid Metal Gear Solid three and

17:43

then I played for when I had a

17:45

Playstation three than Odyssey play ground zeroes on

17:47

that came out and as an apple I've

17:49

played as he not all as a Mgs

17:51

five by pipe worry about a third vets

17:53

and while I will definitely knows I like

17:55

these games of just never kind of filled

17:57

in the blanks I can remember getting the.

18:00

I. H D. Remus does have two and

18:02

three but I had them on my

18:05

P S visa and those sticks are

18:07

not a conductive to very very precise

18:09

aiming which he tend to have to

18:11

do when in games way. if you

18:13

don't hit things in the head you

18:15

end up in a lot sticky situations

18:18

so this is kind of like with

18:20

the Must Collect and haven't come out

18:22

last year this is my first go

18:24

was kind of a revisiting ones. I

18:26

have played as an adult. And

18:30

be. Playing through basically one and

18:32

three properly cause my own in the

18:34

only I got as far as like

18:36

doing the virtuous mission in three on

18:38

the V to and then just I

18:40

got to the bay i think you

18:42

fight then ocelot fairly quickly after his

18:45

dad virtuous mission and and it is

18:47

just an impossibility on my snacks for

18:49

me so this weird with on it

18:51

invests I've played one on three but

18:53

not teeth are really high ks size.

18:55

My favorite third grade and I know

18:57

is my kind of like coverage of

18:59

I've got Cyrus. Obviously.

19:02

Anybody. That either. Wanted to kind

19:04

of do this journey as to me

19:06

I had to be whether the the

19:09

controls they're not impossible. But it's definitely

19:11

as is a very archaic control system

19:13

and the more you go through and

19:16

the more complex the games become, the

19:18

more challenging that combat system. Sorry, that

19:20

control system becomes accessing Mel Guess only

19:22

one is pretty easy to play these

19:25

days even though it has all controls

19:27

because it doesn't ever ask you to

19:29

do anything super complex. Meg Meg guess

19:32

I'll it's three. Meanwhile, We

19:34

complained at the moment has asks quite

19:36

a lot more of you and so

19:38

therefore even though it has very similar

19:40

controls I'm it's a little bit more

19:42

challenging but I came out guess Only

19:45

One is basically a little masterpiece and

19:47

I can't believe how well that game

19:49

has aged Structurally that the Shadow Moses

19:51

kind of facility reminds me a lot

19:54

of the police station present Resident Evil

19:56

to and I love for as eateries

19:58

is probably my favorite. The Reds

20:00

games and any game that allows

20:02

you to do that kind of

20:05

like rotation through the spice. I'm

20:07

revisiting areas skanky caused the unlock

20:09

new doors and reconfigure that space.

20:11

I absolutely my jam and this

20:14

game does that in spades. I'm.

20:16

Biting. The main thing I really like

20:19

about and ah. That. Game is.

20:22

It. So badly written that A

20:24

is that a pretty slim. it's

20:26

basically dark place on meth and

20:29

I'm never going to forget like

20:31

the quote of reducing love com

20:33

plume on a battlefield assesses a

20:36

So Good for because the game

20:38

is basically. Sneak. Into

20:41

a facility and defeat a bunch

20:43

of freaks. It works so well.

20:45

Yeah is like all of the

20:47

enemies of so delightfully designed. Every

20:49

boss fight is a really well

20:51

thought out piece of work. Saw

20:54

him with kind of the ocelot fight way or

20:56

since you just running in circles around a room

20:59

with a to with someone strap strapped to a

21:01

bomb in the middle. But

21:04

going up to kind of light the

21:06

that it's Mlk fire the end is

21:08

really recall i Love Fight and On

21:10

the Roof by just love how goosey

21:13

silly that dame is was also. It's

21:16

really interesting just how well written

21:18

seventy those cards or despite the

21:20

fact that the writing itself is

21:22

bad. There are amazing character arcs

21:24

with characters that you never meet

21:26

because they just on your codec

21:28

lie. I think Naomi Hunters off

21:30

through that game is really fascinating

21:32

and is probably Aus now having.

21:35

Played. Almost all of the mainline okay,

21:37

his party the best written female character

21:39

in the game said in a real

21:41

tragedy to the arc from yeah Right

21:43

Now so a loved one was really

21:45

interesting revisiting to as an adult because

21:48

I can remember. Loving.

21:50

To as a kid? I still do. You think it's really

21:52

good? I think

21:54

the idea to have play a snake on

21:57

the tanker at the start and then switch

21:59

to right. Stellar. Absolute great bait

22:01

and switch. The

22:03

stealth mechanics into all such a step

22:05

up over want. It actually feels like

22:07

a stealth game while still maintaining the

22:10

structure of one as they slit. You

22:12

have a big environments and you're moving

22:14

from sector to sector and key cause

22:16

you're looking the things. The only disappointment

22:18

I say with to is that the

22:20

boss fights and nowhere near on the

22:22

level of one is I think the

22:25

Fat Man fi I'd I'd We had

22:27

a conversation about five my regular now

22:29

I think. The fat my fi is really

22:31

good and I think all the other ones are

22:33

kind of a bit disappointing. The family like like

22:35

I haven't played my yes I too but the

22:37

any t things are a not by all debate

22:39

switch and I for the thought my foot so

22:41

let's say you're out of that. I really like

22:43

the samantha because it feels very kind of like

22:45

puzzle he in the by the i think a

22:48

lot of the best mulcaire boss fights are you

22:50

kind of place dealing with this. Like

22:52

mad bomber on roller skates rolling around

22:54

in area and you're having to go

22:57

in diffuse all these bombs he's putting

22:59

down. was also trying to fight him

23:01

whereas I sound kind of like Thurs

23:03

that the fight with them to fight

23:05

with fortune the fight with Olga that

23:07

the rule arena like the older fight

23:09

against experimental pleasure become so the Olga

23:11

fi I thought was like pretty good

23:14

for your exist the first going to

23:16

fight in the game right where it

23:18

say you're you're stuck in position and

23:20

you and she's using cover in interesting.

23:22

Ways browse me think it kind of

23:24

belt to the solidify which I'm I'm

23:26

not crazy about a non, not crazy

23:28

about the bump fight eva thought the

23:30

bunch of life scrapping on a roof

23:32

psyche and three other data and gas

23:34

and sports in general I still do

23:36

think maybe so. The To is a

23:39

fantastic game and I really love kind

23:41

of like both Tank and Big Shell

23:43

as as environments notice only three such

23:45

an interesting than stats from where those

23:47

games worse and. To. Use the

23:49

Resident Evil analogy. I do think

23:51

that kind of light read as

23:53

melky Solid three. Is

23:55

like how. Mean.

23:58

Risen Evil for kind of reams the

24:00

kids what Ready could be because it

24:02

still has elements of what that say

24:04

resists but as a lot more idea

24:07

of like pushing linear progression forward you've

24:09

got these white areas like how Ready

24:11

has the village, then the castle than

24:13

the island is almost got us or

24:15

structure in that it's kind of like.

24:18

You. Go through kind of like the the

24:21

forests ovarian than into the mountains and then

24:23

you get the facility of the of friends.

24:26

So Yet is kind of definite similarities I

24:28

can see between those two but is so

24:30

much more advanced as a stealth game. The

24:32

so much more going on in that was

24:35

does mean that you it requires them. I'm

24:37

not our on your head. Or

24:39

know I've know about it. I'm not wealthy, that

24:41

is it. But crocodile. I've

24:44

only just reached the kind of and loss

24:46

I'm assuming the facility the end is where

24:48

I've been told that like I'm going to

24:50

have to destroy the not a whole die

24:52

at the end myth the and guys are.

24:54

So I did the any society as Jedi

24:56

a day about I think kind of like

24:58

I'm assuming where I now as I've gone

25:00

all the way through the know. how is

25:02

that the hot iron of the said yes

25:04

seen so far as like full like James

25:06

Bond stuff well I I love how bomb

25:08

this is an area that also brings in

25:10

it slightly soluble or chris things in that

25:13

kind of like the writing. Of this game

25:15

is better but because it's set in

25:17

like the sixties a comes from Japan

25:19

as a different culture about writing women

25:21

and the bone saw of elements mean

25:23

that. Eva as a character

25:26

a his oh boy that's I'm playing

25:28

this with my partner and that's an

25:30

awkward. Every time she's

25:32

unzip in that suing care in a bouvier

25:34

thou and is like go down a woman.

25:38

Is a lot of could see Mahoney

25:40

Nothing that puts in general you can

25:42

really see the development of his cinematic

25:45

taste hear the so that the cut

25:47

scenes are really well put together even

25:49

though kind of like visual Fidelity isn't

25:51

where we get to in five yet

25:54

but it does. Really see what you are

25:56

playing this kind of late? sixties.

25:58

Bonds infused with. Kind of mission

26:00

Impossible were the bad. Kind of like

26:03

Heart of Darkness to a certain degree

26:05

with that jungle saw of Elements for

26:07

yeah. The most recent boss by I've

26:09

done is The End which is where

26:11

I'll stop. Banging. On about my

26:13

August. Solid. but now I think the end

26:15

Boss fight is tremendous. Thing I really like

26:17

five three that I didn't get out to

26:19

his again. this is a story about bunch

26:21

of freaks that you've got to go in

26:24

and and fights and they've all been really

26:26

good. Boss fight so far I was less

26:28

a fond of. Third, the pain boss fi

26:30

I think that little bit underwhelming. I think

26:32

the Cia is excellence. I like the fair

26:34

and is just such a carrots and but

26:36

the end and and the final identity know

26:39

what the final boss file this game is

26:41

but that is also. Does any and

26:43

into kind of the story that has

26:45

aswell know so I know that I've

26:47

i know kind of the roof past

26:49

the this games tired of difficult to

26:52

not know about this way Aymara games

26:54

journalists bar and I've the on box

26:56

a hand my god still got like

26:58

vulgar in the sorrow and like this

27:00

one more of them plus the the

27:03

big kind A Conclusion sections yeah but

27:05

what in the end as a as

27:07

a boss fight absolutely tremendous in terms

27:09

as I know that this the whole

27:11

thing. Where if you are a few turn

27:14

off the plane if you save and ten

27:16

occupy say him for seven days or wine

27:18

the Mcauliffe yeah that the end will just

27:20

die while he's way or no lady. I

27:22

thought I played it as the sniper battle

27:25

and that is a on a sudden probably

27:27

the most fun way to day as yeah

27:29

but the thing is it took me about

27:31

an hour and a quarter to do and

27:33

I've not played a game that forces you

27:35

into were at a sniper butler like know

27:38

you just have to keep your head down

27:40

London's city mouth and I was doing. It

27:42

the way you know. Mowgli Forty Three

27:44

teases the idea that you couldn't even

27:46

non lethal. He take these bosses always

27:48

home with slightly disappointed and not white

27:50

rights are you guys is quite immersive.

27:52

Semi money for absolutely absolutely nuts over

27:54

see why I'm taking so much joy

27:56

out this. But the thing I really

27:58

like about this was. You get

28:00

different rewards if you take my non lethal

28:02

in. I knew that the rewards the killing

28:05

the while take out the end. non lethal.

28:07

A You get his tranquilizer sniper rifle which

28:09

I really wanted. So yeah I can't use

28:11

a sniper rifle on this guy so I

28:13

have to get like real close up to

28:15

him so I spend like an hour like

28:17

following him around and sneaking up on him

28:19

in the grass and holding him off and

28:21

she to them and anyway guess the point

28:24

where he's got Signee tiny sliver of health

28:26

left and I haven't been out to find

28:28

him and I eventually spot him across. The

28:30

entire of the size of the map

28:32

by a sniper rifle blunt and then

28:34

I I the only thing i presume

28:36

with is a pistol. I managed to

28:38

line up thought pistol shop and shoots

28:40

him from across the entire length fairly

28:43

math and get him in the heads

28:45

and me and get that that kind

28:47

of like knockout a not was a

28:49

real punch the at moments as he

28:51

tried to recreate. That. With quiet

28:53

and father thing Mozilla smart about when you

28:55

first me honey didn't I don't actually dislike

28:57

that fight too much. they didn't even quite

29:00

hopes of the yeah like I have played

29:02

that fi even though not the national decide

29:04

if I thought my memories of guys it

29:06

felt more like a traditional video game sniper

29:08

vial than what they states. Yeah. I

29:10

think got hurt me if I'm wrong on

29:12

this. If he can sneak up on him

29:15

to end a hold him up he gives

29:17

you his cameo yeah to make yeah man

29:19

but I can't imagine attitude and can kill

29:21

him my hours earlier assistance of this much

29:23

as up. they do that so well. I

29:25

I think one of the things Mlk does

29:27

really well as uses like the you why

29:29

and to fight that when you get into

29:31

the area where they've got the ends. sorry

29:34

for spoiling parts of these bits for anybody

29:36

to hasn't played this both I phone just

29:38

encouraging you to play offs. This stuff is.

29:40

A bit where you see like a cut scene

29:42

with him in a wheelchair and I just explain

29:44

like oh he's the grandfather of sniper and basically

29:47

and it's just like this old man belts to

29:49

snipe but he's health bar comes up in the

29:51

top corner and that kind of like the trigger

29:53

site. Could I kill him? If I got a

29:56

weapon I could have got that show off with

29:58

I absolutely would have tried it. But

30:00

I'm other time I didn't But yeah I.

30:03

I. Love all of these games I've I've

30:05

got a real newfound adoration for the my

30:08

new the I liked them but this has

30:10

been a real visit to the wholesale degrees

30:12

Para. Ser feel he's

30:14

yes excellence the pirate gaga

30:16

I wanna players am now

30:19

let's. Is. The most. The collection is

30:21

a in a in a good works on

30:23

it. When it launched people weren't too happy

30:25

that I wouldn't say it's a brilliant setup.

30:27

Put it there is nothing the site like

30:29

for example Ice when I was so us

30:31

play milk is solid one. I watched a

30:33

couple of videos on the internet just had

30:35

it. doesn't really teach you anything right? So

30:37

once he kind of like a one or

30:39

one courses get me started and seeing what

30:41

people have done with that by just emulating

30:43

on Pc and been up to upscale as

30:45

it is like it's pretty shit the Konami

30:47

didn't do any of that and it does

30:49

look like. Playing a P S one game

30:51

there is real soft edges to address and

30:53

in that game and you know the mail

30:56

guess only two and three on the blue.

30:58

Point hasty we must as with very little

31:00

else done to them. So

31:03

is like more or less playing

31:05

them on the original consoles. I'm

31:08

I'm fine with that. I

31:10

did pay light for he five quid

31:12

for the so I would have like

31:14

more done bought for someone who is.

31:17

This has been my gateway to actually experience

31:19

to of these games for the to the

31:21

first time mobile mostly for the first time

31:24

on so I'm I'm willing to deal

31:26

with a subpar remastered for thy experience I

31:28

think I'm gonna but with got the

31:30

four day weekend I'm thinking about them and

31:32

enough as a nothing to about the

31:34

on switch boss, ankle and place they so

31:37

again with the switch. I hate the

31:39

analog sticks on the aware and I think

31:41

the aiming system in Metal Gear Solid

31:43

the already quite convoluted the Rafale last fights

31:45

were about a little bit of. Attempt

31:47

from because trying to get off

31:50

good shots with are set up

31:52

so that's my hope. Third third.

31:55

This. Melk a solid Delta a remake of

31:57

Snake Eater is just been able to aim

31:59

by huh the down left trigger on and

32:01

pulling bright trinket to fire the gonna have

32:03

a nice when have some near guy yes

32:05

if he it's you know up I played

32:07

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32:10

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34:22

Another kind of blocks from the nineties.

34:24

Much. X Men are back. And.

34:26

The New so I've heard. I don't really have much

34:28

of a. Kind. Of emotional

34:31

cuts that citizen or for law papers what

34:33

they grew up on him about. That's the

34:35

case if he. But how are these new

34:37

episodes of X Men are definitely cool A

34:39

on Philly. When it was on on I

34:41

remember really enjoying it but not like it

34:43

wasn't one of my absolute go to scrape

34:45

like it wouldn't be like good I me

34:48

to wake up early feel a day for

34:50

know when it was on that like yeah

34:52

whenever I saw on tv I would watch

34:54

clothing. I know where the cats are. This

34:56

one I think is that it's just really

34:58

cool in a way that a lot. Of

35:00

like either superhero or even like

35:03

Disney flight model stuff. As I'm

35:05

down in a while I'm like

35:07

there's a moment in that first

35:09

episode where Cyclops I think I

35:11

thought by this enemy and feel

35:13

have to forgive me but he

35:16

like because his power isn't shooting

35:18

a laser issue a look at

35:20

a basically throwing a punch with

35:22

his eye is he uses his

35:24

labor to like move himself like

35:26

he blood. Shoots the ground

35:29

and ambitious him into position. And it's if

35:31

I never thought about Cyclops doing that before.

35:33

I was a moment where it was like

35:35

oh people that have working on the show

35:37

have to thought about what the coolest thing

35:39

to have somebody do with momentum. I'm and

35:41

could be. Every

35:44

episode so far has had two characters combine

35:46

their power in a weird way that you

35:48

probably wouldn't have thought about for and like

35:50

a matter of can be. every episode is

35:52

just like a weird little com both came

35:55

up that death and just unexpected. Is it

35:57

written like or can like eight a kids

35:59

morning? The hours that kind of written more

36:01

to think more for people who have the

36:03

nostalgia and grew up on lesson is a

36:06

slightly more at offer it's to say cause

36:08

I think it was kind of always like

36:10

this plant might be a lot but roast

36:12

and and like X men add conceptually was

36:14

always about like a parallel for civil Rights

36:17

at the time it was written and so

36:19

it without having those plots just wouldn't be

36:21

the show and it is still very much

36:23

that now and so I wonder whether or

36:25

not that adult nature assuming that they bled

36:28

into their so, whether or not it's like.

36:30

Maybe just one picking up or at

36:32

on it as a kid, but I

36:35

definitely am now in a good X

36:37

Men Ninety seven right? based Complete. Is.

36:39

No continuation or is that it is desk

36:41

door and neither will on continuation might lose

36:43

and apparently store nowadays as if the last

36:46

season just picked up where it left our

36:48

there again i success the question was gonna

36:50

ask is I'd never really watched the original

36:52

a great deal like. Tiny

36:54

just pick out from this point even

36:56

beat him play you absolutely could actually

36:58

into it's a to with unfollow. I

37:01

think that the first episode is too

37:03

so lives exposition like as x that

37:05

yes nice the insurgents, the character to

37:07

this world and a basically have to

37:09

believe for basically like five minutes saying

37:11

like he is how the world works

37:13

and i it's quite dull ab it

37:16

for improved significantly after that point. And

37:19

began to save fuel more When I have come

37:22

so many things to watch and yeah site add

37:24

another thing on your pile on. I will say

37:26

this of the so as well I was watching

37:28

it on my computer out of my upon it

37:30

was busy in the living room and something so

37:33

cool happened in the third episode that I was

37:35

like a cost not watching this now so I

37:37

can much in the on the big the only

37:39

thing as he can't I can't just actually watch

37:42

a tiny screen version of this. I went and

37:44

sister house think and I'll spend another see days

37:46

and much in the seventies films and apply my

37:48

sons and are. Going to play for the

37:51

homo? Get to the gym when Jack Smith

37:53

Mona? don't know I guess I'll I didn't

37:55

know. Man says Waxman out as and a

37:57

free so you got the Australia? I'm I'm.

38:00

And phone from the seventies. ideal I dip

38:02

look alike films or can have been going

38:04

on last week. Up a Gun on a

38:06

mad like. Mid to

38:08

late seventies early eighties was thriller kit.

38:10

I don't know what's cool is this

38:12

for my for like five. Life.

38:15

For other side's hadn't seen before. I knew

38:17

I kind of shit. First up in that

38:19

I see mention this on the the Last

38:21

podcast last week but you didn't get to

38:24

hear it said let's pretend a map p

38:26

on that one percent either. You've never have

38:28

you think about his ulcer before William Free

38:30

console so it's at the time is like

38:33

a colossal critical and commercial bomb. It came

38:35

out exactly the same time a Star Wars

38:37

date which of course just absolutely cannibalize. I

38:39

in said among all I know everything there

38:42

that kind of i don't have his around

38:44

these guys. Are not the of

38:46

yes I like months of

38:48

those Cameo approached Pratley cannibalize anything

38:51

that came out as animals that

38:53

you had deemed and The

38:55

Sorcerer which is William Freegans despite

38:57

his name. Complete be grounded thriller

39:00

about four men who find themselves

39:02

through different. Ways

39:05

all in South America kind of in exile

39:07

hiding cause that dog things have happened in

39:09

the last two. calls them to basically run

39:11

away from where they're from and that is

39:13

kind of for the first half an hour

39:15

as a like a foreign language film about

39:18

four men than light what's going wrong in

39:20

their life and then have a free changes

39:22

into this like. Club.

39:25

Is no, it's not really a

39:27

road trip that tasked with transfer

39:29

in this really delicate dynamite across.

39:33

The. Scan the country for you might

39:35

rain forest across bridge free. Horrible

39:37

weather is becomes is really tense

39:39

thriller of these for men from

39:41

completely different places having to work

39:43

together to transport this dynamite. As

39:46

a couple of ridiculously intent scenes and

39:48

when a building a bridge when involving

39:50

just a food and like tree that

39:52

like sounds really like. A.

39:54

Dull to but that is it. The tension

39:56

assume is really get my really enjoyed at

39:59

checkout a. The author if you

40:01

can from William Freak and hates this

40:03

is is a Death Is Is follow

40:05

up. It was shortly after the excess

40:07

which is obviously what are the biggest

40:10

commercial except successes. A When that came

40:12

out in this completely flops when I

40:14

came off the epa. yeah Saucer, check

40:16

out our fever B C Night Moves

40:18

from Nineteen Seventy Four is A Guests

40:21

nightly news is a Gene Hackman for

40:23

know where he plays a private detective

40:25

unease tasked with finding. A

40:28

woman's missing daughter his go mrs you

40:30

sixteen and she's gone missing in Hollywood.

40:33

And. Econo takes him down to

40:35

Florida as well as buy into

40:37

linked thing of self like hollywood

40:39

crime this since the stuff with

40:41

some stump men and stuff like

40:43

that also some weird like. My

40:47

insurance. Issues is com little bit

40:49

like China Town meets the Nice guys and

40:51

I'm pretty sure when same black made the

40:53

nice guys have run goes the Russell Crowe.

40:55

he watch this film because it's very similar

40:57

to the Fall Guy coming out soon see

40:59

probably buy a nice the flag. are you

41:02

know who make it where the got the

41:04

idea for this is actually a Fortnight moves.

41:06

I gave Rise Against Sorcerer a four and

41:08

a half stars on the a box. I

41:10

guess night miss a four star. For.

41:13

Is very good. The again only an hour

41:15

and a half when a good from san

41:17

the seventies. a Gene Hackman doing this stuff

41:19

and who doesn't like Gene Hackman? Next

41:22

up. He those guys seen

41:24

Rolling Thunder? Know.

41:27

Case for Nine. So it's I'm Rolling Thunder. The

41:29

reason I watch this is. A

41:32

sauna. Quentin Tarantino favorite films and

41:34

for his next film which I think

41:36

I'm only school the movie critics is

41:38

heavily room with. He's basically receiving

41:40

scenes from this filmed the in it

41:43

might like he did with The Great

41:45

Escape and Once upon a Time

41:47

and Hollywood subtle of up. That reference

41:49

points a suspicious like a classic were

41:52

friends revenge thriller story say a

41:54

major in the army comes back from

41:56

Vietnam. Of the has the trauma of

41:58

that. And goes. His

42:01

like again until one day his home his

42:03

invaded and some terrible things happen and the

42:05

rest the film is about him going to

42:08

Mexico essentially and hunting down the people that

42:10

did this to him is a very seventies

42:12

eighties to surf and trellis. I have three

42:14

at a half stars is good. Though.

42:18

That yeah I would. I saw Really

42:20

recommend Rolling Thunder. Notes: If you begin

42:22

to tarantino little to his film coming

42:24

out then it probably would be helpful

42:26

to lot sounds like my phone lines

42:28

are and see you know watch app

42:30

Yeah that is. Yes,

42:33

yes yes as is okay. A film

42:35

I haven't seen before. They Die offs.

42:37

He loved his A B C blowout.

42:41

Know. Is this reminds you that

42:43

you on the Gates is Brian De

42:45

Palma's thriller with John John Travolta. To

42:48

is a sound record is for films

42:50

so he like recently finds the sounds

42:52

of films and kind of slowly and

42:54

to slide goes out in the whoa

42:56

This was your last films about films

42:58

cause those are my favorites or films

43:00

To be fair that this will be

43:02

fun it's not really about films is

43:05

so don't filter is a sandwich or

43:07

so films so one day says walking

43:09

through. The Park and

43:11

he's trying to get let's get back to

43:13

Sophomore Sound for his film. And it's late

43:15

at night and then suddenly out of nowhere.

43:18

He just. This. Card just

43:20

basically drives off the road and into

43:23

this lake and he's recorded the audio

43:25

if this and he rescues the women

43:27

from the car and it kind of.

43:29

He listens of see the police questioned

43:31

him and his of the same deeper

43:34

going on here and a Conrad deeper

43:36

conspiracy unravels is got John Lithgow plan

43:38

or really creepy so of lot hired

43:40

assassin in the cell and it's really

43:42

really good and school blow out because.

43:45

You. Know is the sound of the blow out

43:47

on the tire of the car he's listening to

43:49

on the recording or his head gunshot. Those like

43:52

the to unaware that out and it. Has

43:54

a really good ending and is kind

43:56

of the films thought south him trying

43:58

to find the perfect stream and that

44:00

kind of making like he was like

44:02

quiet by Bbc. They're making lot knockoff

44:04

Halloween. What slasher films basically. And this

44:06

quite funny section where they just saw

44:08

this film is like gave enough Halloween.

44:10

Like is the first person tracked through

44:12

like a college dorm room and following

44:14

a killer and it cuts to a

44:16

shallow where I'm so it's about get

44:19

killed and that the actual actress in

44:21

the films scream is just the most

44:23

pathetic screen me that the bird said

44:25

yeah I really into a blow out

44:27

that be my biggest recommendation. A Check

44:29

out blowouts. How. Quickly mention Picnic Iraq

44:31

which is an Australian film from Nine

44:33

Seventy Five Young Seamless based on like

44:35

an old Australian novel surreal of well

44:38

with the one I have seen at

44:40

the moment there have been is a

44:42

very famous film oh Picnic at have

44:45

you running or else is really like

44:47

weird a serial so of horror ace

44:49

is Khan is hard to define us

44:51

about like a Issa in Nineteen Hundred

44:54

Australia as bug group whose school girls

44:56

he got a school trip to this

44:58

place to tagging rock and. Some of

45:00

them don't make it back and some about

45:02

the mystery of what happened that this sir

45:05

I interrupt basically hand. Really?

45:07

Enjoyed that that yes if I mentioned recommend

45:09

any other source for a blow out as

45:11

the to blow out is. Very.

45:13

Very did they gave. Us

45:16

some backlog the to get see because.

45:19

It's not by Doug Melvin. What of a minute?

45:21

Exactly what X Men? Which funeral I would be

45:24

on? Servo at China? So crawling. I like how

45:26

does Like a Brand New Is T V show

45:28

out from the people that made Game of Thrones

45:30

and A none of us astray could argue or

45:32

everybody of I know I've watched the first episode

45:35

He didn't grip me. If

45:37

I just than I. Am sign the

45:39

made for tv as a mom and a

45:41

film mood or that he gave release mazes

45:43

whereas like owner be told a story today

45:45

and one story to finish of rather than

45:47

basically been in a games mood for about

45:49

two years have much so that all over

45:52

the last couple years at fit enough Anyway

45:54

let me know if he was blow up.

45:57

know what will there is to say i'm

46:00

IGN on school UK feedback at

46:02

ign.com is where you can do

46:04

that. We of course want to know

46:06

what your favorite sources are. What,

46:08

um, I think a one

46:10

topic to about last week was films that you watched

46:12

when you were a kid that you loved, but

46:14

then subsequently realized everyone thought was

46:16

shit, um, like bicentennial man or

46:18

a turn, uh, to us.

46:21

Did you have one for that, Matt? Did you have

46:23

a kid, a kid's film you love? Yeah, I watched,

46:25

uh, I think it was Aladdin too. A

46:28

lot. Um, it was one

46:30

of the later Aladdin films at the very

46:32

least. Uh, and I don't know if I'd

46:34

seen the original Aladdin. Um,

46:36

yep. I think also one

46:39

of the home alone's to like home alone

46:41

for, and not the original home alone. Yeah.

46:43

Wow. There we go. It's not even got

46:45

Macaulay Culkin in. Only

46:47

one and two exist in my eyes and

46:49

beyond that there are no home alone films.

46:51

Um, anyway, Matt, you've got

46:54

the first Matt P that is. You've got

46:56

the first, um, sure. Feedback for us this

46:58

week. This one is from David Trudino who

47:00

says, so my favorite sauce

47:02

is sweet baby raise barbecue sauce.

47:05

Can we cut in the, um,

47:07

the audio of the podcast is

47:09

just going to be Zuckerberg. There's

47:11

no music in this podcast. It

47:13

is just Zuckerberg talking about, um,

47:16

but of course being from Texas, I use

47:18

a variety of hot sauces that is my

47:20

favorite salsa. Interesting. Uh,

47:24

also lately I have been loving Korean barbecue

47:26

marinade and sauce. I've been using it as

47:28

a marinade on lots of meats. I

47:31

know this is a bit local, but if anybody goes

47:33

to Chinatown in London, you should go to a pocho

47:35

grill. It's a little bit pricey, but it's, Oh, it's

47:37

real good. I will keep it

47:39

in mind. Uh, on another note, do

47:42

you all watch the Harley Quinn animated series?

47:44

Man, that is funny stuff and seems to

47:46

be getting crazy with each season. The Valentine's

47:48

special in season three was wild giant Bane running

47:51

around and bonking all the buildings. I

47:53

love how they portray Bane and Gordon. Anyway. Have a

47:55

great weekend, David. Now, the funny thing here

47:57

is that This. Email

48:00

is combined two factors which when into

48:02

a joke I was I made on

48:05

twitter years ago our Which Is does

48:07

an excellent the i think it's in

48:09

season one of a hum of Harley

48:11

Quinn which I do think is a

48:13

fantasy not today only by think it's

48:16

and is basically the best thing that

48:18

Dc have done on T V for

48:20

a very long time ago. But this

48:22

upset were Holly Quinn is complaining that

48:25

he's basically got nothing to do with

48:27

the weekend unpaid is like oh I'm

48:29

going to. Black Man to his voice

48:31

device or arise as A or

48:33

i'm bored of about Mom for

48:36

Roots party here's hoping to poke

48:38

Darn it's another thing is is

48:40

than I edited that together in

48:42

a little video was then immediately

48:44

cut to black that reveal a

48:46

Black man Sabine Zuckerberg social smoke

48:48

and dismissed the specifics on So

48:50

Bernard Aden why and how Cassie

48:52

mail. Smoking these

48:54

the I didn't see some moved from from i

48:56

was over to your mom. Ah

49:00

gods, odds of still thinking

49:02

about this sucker by video

49:04

to. I

49:09

really hope if it's it does ever make

49:11

the social network t that he put to

49:14

sleep may be raised video in that like

49:16

guests The Eisenberg to date my recreates. So

49:18

it feels like in retrospect I mean the

49:21

movie cuts off exactly the right point. But

49:23

the so much more the happened to that

49:25

sorry the some a light at really more

49:27

films is now a lousy be him and

49:29

co a be a cold redraw. Must

49:33

be the first ones A deposition assessments

49:35

with a gun. Yeah good stuff Am.

49:37

Other Mats new email breed police have

49:40

gone up sleep this emails from Jordan

49:42

Green he says hi. All a film

49:44

I watched as a laugh and to

49:47

this day I enjoy his Thirteenth Warrior

49:49

the Ultimate Antonio Banderas film. I found

49:51

the cannibal people terrifying. I saw the

49:53

film with six console which kind of

49:56

sick that means much discussing might be

49:58

good, it was ugly. When I

50:00

re watched it and Wikipedia it recently

50:02

found it with a total flop. Eventual

50:04

up reappraisal has yet to happen but

50:06

I still have faith. Party scene of

50:08

I've ignored years eve I've not seen

50:10

thirteen four am afraid of out on

50:12

my own comment yes and it's my

50:14

as nice but there was made in

50:16

the seventies fps so Jordan also says

50:19

as a frightening a ping pong going

50:21

back and forth between dragon for a

50:23

to rise of the Ronan strikes me

50:25

that we're seeing a latte Rpgs recently

50:27

though what that actually means seems to

50:29

be changing the facts. Clearly gunning for

50:31

some of the mainstream market share the

50:33

seem to be two camps in an

50:36

attempt at west my patience either be

50:38

you business don't like on uncompromising hard

50:40

core interests you guys tax which which

50:43

do you think will win out to

50:45

they end up just crisis thing as

50:47

always thanks for the pot, respect the

50:49

sea and grave it because except for

50:52

except for. Jordan. Is

50:55

insistent that cause like when I think they are

50:57

piece of color this yale I think of rebirth

50:59

that does Canada a bit the bus of stuff

51:02

with the towers but a dog in I'd still

51:04

an episode like a chore in the same my

51:06

right does not. I think that people have to

51:08

d very different ideas on I could I love

51:10

rebirth and the animal rights thoughts on and cents

51:12

on s the more I like it and I

51:15

think a lot of a thing for i like

51:17

about it is stuff the people don't as I

51:19

people really don't like the many games whereas I

51:21

kind of thing the mini games are essential. To

51:23

air on my Lover Miss. Bar

51:26

and yeah I think the Book of

51:28

A see this example here is Rise

51:30

in the Running which is much more

51:32

Gb soft and deny an than this

51:34

is. Yeah.

51:37

I. I

51:39

saw a thing that they will end

51:41

of coexisting on the promise of. That's

51:43

just a his games right? Some things

51:45

need to go. third, the more kind

51:47

of open appeal and homogenization. As terrible

51:49

as the is just happens, especially in

51:51

an industry that's costing more more money.

51:53

I do think that when we talk

51:55

about the ones that people remember though,

51:57

that will be the ones that just

52:00

doesn't compromise. Do you go to the

52:02

How Cool for that's what we got

52:04

our from Soft right? There is no,

52:06

the doesn't seem to. I don't understand

52:08

how From Soft has become what it

52:10

is because it doesn't make sense. The

52:12

album ring can be one of the

52:14

biggest selling games and yes it is.

52:16

And it's when born. And I also

52:18

don't understand how his elder is what

52:20

it is. Now how how has older

52:22

turned from what is a particularly felt

52:24

like a brilliant book fairly standard adventures

52:26

style genre game into. This

52:29

massive open world that basically does that give

52:31

you any instruction whatsoever it says i go

52:33

on kind of go and find some phone

52:35

it's out there for you and the fact

52:37

that these have become massive I think does

52:39

point to the idea that if by some

52:41

see if you've got the budget and you

52:44

can do it right of these big uncompromising

52:46

hardcore been of in inverted commas. Concepts.

52:49

Will win out. Because I don't

52:52

think any of us will be talking about rise of

52:54

the Ronin in three months. Probably not. I think it

52:56

says that that stiff. Porridge I'm

52:58

not that necessary the more eve software

53:00

tired to it can still be very

53:03

finest on riot. Think that I'm be

53:05

like sounds like. right?

53:07

The still best know people they're making versions

53:10

of that doing well whether it be nice

53:12

if p last year that their own take

53:14

on and. The. Let you know

53:16

these trends come and go, right? For

53:19

fifteen years get a promise to matey to

53:21

a games or yeah and I mean if

53:23

and Xenos anymore Right when his illustrious a

53:25

clone he saw a exactly saints row thought

53:27

yet that black crime wave of.me since I

53:30

first last thing as well that like this

53:32

year I think I've played more traditional day

53:34

off issues that I have like any other

53:36

year to like we've had get to the

53:38

like a dragon we've had a unicorn overload

53:40

which is fantastic and am and percent of

53:43

reload as well which are like not going

53:45

for any of these like that they it's

53:47

not trying to do the hard. Core or

53:49

the west size Isis. there are no actually I

53:51

mean if you coup that you could say pray

53:53

with eyes but yet like they're still the stand

53:55

up and all of them are doing incredibly well.

53:58

Liked the all of them, so great idea! The

54:00

political of load but that where I lived

54:02

I lived hope seems is also being kind

54:04

of like I know that that crumbly and

54:06

to see which is obviously the original version

54:08

of thighs much more of an ammo kind

54:10

a mobile game. Ryan and this was their

54:13

more traditional J Rpg. Time to take on

54:15

it and then Tells of a rise. Kind

54:17

of felt like it was a big break

54:19

out for the Tail series as kind of

54:21

more of a mainstream thing even though that

54:23

is essentially you know is he's like a

54:26

Final Fantasy Games I like. It's a fairly

54:28

traditional jail Pj so. Those. Things definitely

54:30

seem to be working, and I do think

54:32

that in general kindness. Japanese.

54:34

Game design is so well appreciated. kind

54:36

of in the west. At the moment

54:38

that these games organize, the laws are

54:41

success. I think it's a massive same

54:43

read arises a run in that it

54:45

is so you be Salt Lake when.

54:48

I'm. Not big fan of team in just games

54:50

at all, but the other games they do

54:52

make our team Ninja games as opposed to

54:54

this, which is like. Watered. Down

54:56

Version: I guess Team injure. Smoke

54:59

it didn't work to make night. I

55:01

enjoy her email and if you're playing

55:04

a union and chronicle and been significant

55:06

like com metaphor reef until now.a small

55:08

way as they were left the day

55:10

it for actually I don't since I

55:12

think is stocked. Image: Yes this year

55:14

I think they said this year I'm.

55:17

A painter, one. I did

55:19

wonder what the next friend to be like. Normally I'd

55:22

think like. When. You have

55:24

such a big. Success Like Buddhist

55:26

gate three like P B lot right?

55:28

How to make a lot of I

55:30

such as difficult dedicates of a you

55:33

prefer like and yeah it's It's interesting

55:35

that we for obviously over this past

55:37

week has seen it. Would. Have

55:39

to members press get hold of Jesus of

55:42

which we'll run. Mccaffrey for us was one

55:44

of those. And listening to what ten Levine's

55:46

hooks by the in terms of this narrative

55:48

like I did. Obviously a lot of Hades

55:50

in there and the idea that Judas his

55:53

apparently kind of this road like suits us

55:55

in, but it sounds more like. The.

55:58

death loop approach to rogue like more than

56:00

pure roguelike but also has this idea that

56:02

kind of like the game builds around you

56:04

depending on who you side as these three

56:06

kind of central figures that you can work

56:08

with and if you work with one of

56:10

them it reconfigures the story

56:12

around that and the other characters can then

56:15

turn up and you know because you piss them off

56:17

they'll take things away from you or they're ruined stealth

56:20

for you and stuff like that and

56:22

that has I can

56:24

see a bit of bouldersgate in that in that

56:26

that is a RPG that was built to be

56:28

so reactive to everything you do and

56:31

obviously bouldersgate is much more through the fact that

56:33

they just simply wrote a hundred

56:35

outcomes to any sort of storyline right

56:37

so that whatever you did there would

56:39

generally be something that could respond to

56:41

you I think whilst that is

56:43

impossible to expect out of many studios that don't

56:45

have kind of like the resources of 450 creators

56:49

over six seven years of

56:51

development I think what we will

56:54

see going forward is more attempts

56:56

to create genuine reactivity

56:58

rather than fake reactivity and

57:01

you know we might see an example of

57:04

that in Judas and then that might inspire

57:06

other people and you know there's every it

57:08

stands to reason that Judas might be terrible

57:10

like it is quite an ambitious idea but

57:13

in practice it might actually just feel

57:15

quite repetitive because there might be the

57:18

same procedurally bits of story

57:20

constantly being used over and over again

57:22

and that might turn out not very

57:24

good and it that sort of thing

57:27

requires the awkwardness of bouldersgate but I

57:29

think in general if people don't take

57:31

something away from the reactivity of bouldersgate

57:34

and find ways to do it on different budgets

57:36

at different scales that would be a shame I

57:38

can't wait for Judas and just like like

57:40

you said I feel like it could like

57:42

you could have two wildly different playthroughs I

57:45

think reviews for that game will be so

57:47

wildly interesting and different because like you're gonna

57:49

basically be playing a completely different game if

57:51

it works yeah yeah it

57:53

kind of reminds me of when

57:55

we first played remnant 2 like our

57:58

first like two hours each we play separate We

58:00

were in completely different places having completely different, like

58:02

mine was a lot better than yours but I'll

58:04

look out and play with it. Yeah, yeah and

58:07

that's the thing right is that from what we

58:09

know of Judas it's not just the storyline that

58:11

you know that has lots of these individual small

58:13

components of story that get reconfigured

58:15

with other bits of story depending on what

58:17

you've done. But also the ship of the

58:19

Mayflower that you play on is

58:21

also procedurally generated. There are distinct

58:24

locations which I imagine have authored

58:26

sections of them but then they

58:28

can change like a roguelike does.

58:31

Which brings me like you say brings you to

58:33

a game like remnant in which you

58:35

can be in vastly different interpretations of those

58:38

worlds depending on where you go. I

58:41

ultimately fell off remnant. I didn't all that

58:43

much like it which again these

58:45

sort of things make me very

58:47

interested in Judas but I do fear for

58:50

Judas that the ambition doesn't quite match what

58:52

the experience is. But that

58:54

is a game that I am hugely

58:56

interested in and I do recommend going out

58:58

and listening to these very very long podcasts

59:00

that now exist of it. If

59:02

you're interested in listening to a man

59:05

who might be mad and might not be

59:07

able to make this vision happen but it

59:09

is nonetheless very interesting from a game design

59:11

perspective to listen. It's just good to see

59:13

someone like him be able to do it right and being

59:15

allowed to do it. Well help when you've had that

59:17

success in your past right someone will give you a

59:20

load of money to try and create another Bioshock won't

59:22

they? Exactly but we've seen a lot of examples in

59:24

the last few years of very

59:26

well storied game

59:28

developers not making the games necessarily

59:30

that they'd want to. But

59:34

yeah who knows Judas could fall flat

59:36

it could be one of the best things

59:38

ever played who knows at this stage. I can't

59:40

wait to play it that's for sure. We

59:43

have one more email don't

59:45

we? And that is for

59:47

me to read from Chris Mutton he says hi

59:50

everyone. I hope you're all starting to enjoy the

59:52

longer days with a bit more sunshine when you

59:54

leave work. I don't ever leave work so I

59:56

work from home but I do. Great don't thought

59:58

man. a walk.

1:00:01

Have you guys tried walking? Okay,

1:00:04

yeah, pretty good. I've

1:00:07

written it a couple of times before but just wanted

1:00:09

to speak on last week's pod. It

1:00:11

made me laugh hearing you speak about Dragon's Dogma

1:00:13

2 and the fact that you could play for

1:00:15

hours, meet a creature in the wild and get

1:00:17

wiped, losing all that progress. Whilst in real life

1:00:19

you'd just spent a couple of hours recording a

1:00:21

podcast for the equipment not to work properly, sending

1:00:23

you back a couple of hours and having to

1:00:25

work through the podcast topics all again. It

1:00:28

was very impressive by the way as it could

1:00:30

have easily been speaking about it. All the subjects

1:00:32

again, thank you very much. I didn't even clock

1:00:34

that. It's very funny that we basically had a

1:00:36

real life salt podcast. How'd you feel about it?

1:00:39

I imagine it was quite frustrating. I

1:00:42

mean, I got over it. But

1:00:44

yeah, I thought, you know what, the

1:00:46

second one was also good. So that's good. It

1:00:49

would have been bad if we'd recorded it a second time

1:00:51

and I was like, that wasn't very good was it? But

1:00:53

I thought it was still good. So there we go. But

1:00:55

anyway, it just made Chris think

1:00:57

about when games imitate life and then randomly

1:01:00

does a crossover into real life or other

1:01:02

media forms. It's quite a wide

1:01:04

question, but do you have any memorable moments in

1:01:06

games or full games where you

1:01:08

find the experience pops up in day to day

1:01:10

life? Mine is when I was riding a moped

1:01:12

on holiday in the Philippines during the sunset. And

1:01:15

for some reason I started singing far away from

1:01:17

Red Dead One. And when you're riding the horse

1:01:19

to Mexico, love all the work

1:01:21

you put into the pods. So thank you,

1:01:23

Chris from near Milton Keynes. I

1:01:26

think maybe it's funny as about before, but I

1:01:28

think it's more about being somewhere, like whether it's

1:01:30

being in Osaka from Yakuza or being

1:01:32

in LA from GTA 5 and knowing

1:01:34

where you are. But I've

1:01:36

a really one. This is probably saying that

1:01:39

loads of people who play Fort Manager have

1:01:41

like, there was a period I want to

1:01:43

say between I want to say between 2010 to 2014,

1:01:49

where half the players I bought for Spurs

1:01:51

and Fort Manager like six months later, we'd

1:01:53

buy in real life. And I felt like

1:01:55

I was actually watching me like as a

1:01:58

scout and being like. He

1:02:00

knows that I mean not that anyone you know if

1:02:02

you people knew Christian Erickson was for example when he

1:02:05

was Ix But I was like I'm signing and I

1:02:07

made it happen Yeah,

1:02:09

I don't know about you guys like sometimes I close

1:02:11

my eyes And I do see like puzzle

1:02:13

shapes in my mind when I try and sleep. It's probably

1:02:16

not a good sign is it? Yeah,

1:02:19

you guys got any examples of this. I

1:02:21

do not I'm afraid or at least not mind Yeah

1:02:23

If you ever think of anything deeper than just

1:02:26

like going to Yokohama and then just being like

1:02:28

oh, I know that one I know that I

1:02:30

know the China found that you

1:02:32

haven't encountered any tree folks recently well play

1:02:34

Metal Gear Solid 3 No, but

1:02:36

sometimes you've got to eat one haven't you? Some

1:02:39

days you go through the rain. Yeah, have

1:02:41

you done the ladder? Yeah. Yeah I

1:02:45

mean as they say what a thrill

1:02:48

I'm gonna play Metal Gear 3 now. I don't know what no

1:02:50

I'm gonna start from one I recommend

1:02:52

dying from one because I tell you what I'm

1:02:55

sorry I keep banging on about Metal Gear Solid,

1:02:57

but it is a very exciting series But I

1:02:59

have no idea how I understood anything that was

1:03:01

happening in two as a kid because it is

1:03:04

so reliant on your knowledge from Metal Gear Solid

1:03:06

1 even aside from that

1:03:08

a lot of the topics

1:03:10

that it's bringing up it like it's largely

1:03:12

about the way the Data

1:03:14

platforms control the way that you understand

1:03:16

like the information in front of you

1:03:19

I was a 14 year old trying

1:03:21

to play that the more important thing like

1:03:23

no one really had experienced it unless you

1:03:25

were hanging out on BBS boards in Japan

1:03:27

like that is the only way that you

1:03:30

would have the thought of like of the

1:03:32

information that's Like coming across

1:03:34

my feet isn't necessarily indicative of what's happening

1:03:36

in real life Yeah the whole kind of

1:03:38

like storyline of obviously kind of like That

1:03:41

brings up the idea of the Patriots and kind of

1:03:43

like who's in control and stuff like that That is

1:03:45

a conspiracy theory as old

1:03:47

as time right, but the very specific

1:03:49

things about What is

1:03:52

effectively discussing? Over-saturation

1:03:54

of stuff on the internet and

1:03:57

how that changes people's perspectives and

1:03:59

how. The message has to be

1:04:01

controlled for the good of the people

1:04:03

because too much information is is is

1:04:05

gonna essentially explode their tiny minds. It

1:04:08

felt so prescient that thought that that

1:04:10

was built way before we were has

1:04:12

you know the ability to just open

1:04:14

our phones and just have a shit

1:04:16

load of information downloaded basically strain to

1:04:19

our eyeballs of which half of his

1:04:21

misinformation. And. We get. Well.

1:04:23

This was the Metal Gear Solid really don't

1:04:25

care about? I guess. I'm sorry that in

1:04:27

on Smurf to can imagine that you gonna

1:04:30

go to Four and Five freeway for most

1:04:32

to rally on A I can technically go

1:04:34

to ground Zero and Five right? because it's

1:04:37

a continuation of Three Eve and no Peace

1:04:39

Walker I think comes in between them. But

1:04:42

that woods so me to do

1:04:44

for them. Peace Walker then grounds

1:04:46

here as five will require me

1:04:48

I assume for and Peace Walker

1:04:50

Watson must the collection Volume two

1:04:52

as. You say? if we got all used on

1:04:55

this pure sure the a volume to. Imagine

1:04:58

what it really for acid

1:05:00

instead of us. He

1:05:02

scared to death stranding. Get by the while so

1:05:04

I do. I am building up said I speak

1:05:07

it's different because I haven't played a something and

1:05:09

I loved the try to pedestrian into so I

1:05:11

didn't want to get back on. I will play

1:05:13

for I didn't like for I will point out

1:05:15

that I was one I really didn't like but

1:05:17

I do want to repay as part of my

1:05:20

adult reappraisal. but to repay that the my that

1:05:22

would mean going tracking always. My parents again

1:05:24

my Pi testamentary and bringing it back. I'm

1:05:26

just gonna wait for them to really sick

1:05:28

as surely they will at this point. Eyes

1:05:30

the smart thing to the the past three

1:05:33

there isn't one is the size of a

1:05:35

metal gear so mucking that back will be

1:05:37

I've I've got a slim identify your own

1:05:39

the I still barely passer by still lead

1:05:41

they really big chunk you may have picked

1:05:44

I get out once every two years. Plate

1:05:46

wrote band tie her and that's it. i'm

1:05:49

good stuff am i to an

1:05:51

underscore you take me back at

1:05:53

it's not right that was right

1:05:55

wasn't it i didn't onscreen if

1:05:57

you back alleys and as.com Let

1:06:00

us know, um, maybe some answers to Chris's

1:06:03

question there about anything that's, uh, happening in

1:06:05

a game that's been imitated in real life.

1:06:07

That'll be fun to read out. In the

1:06:09

meantime, why don't we listen to Mark Zuckerberg

1:06:12

smoke some meats? Goodbye.

1:06:14

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1:06:30

the meat chef. Yeah,

1:06:32

someone asked me, do I smoke meat? Smoking

1:06:35

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