We pickup where we left off - sort of - by interviewing Ben, the brother of our season 1 finale interviewee, Juan. Also from the Gold Coast, Ben has a very different outlook on adoption than his brother. Growing up, Ben didn’t talk much about his adoption nor did he ask his parents questions about his past…

…Well, not anymore. On today’s episode, Ben opens up and shares his experience as an adoptee. From being Black and talking about Australia’s ugly history with its treatment of minorities to discussing how fatherhood helped change his perspective on his own birth parents to his thoughts on adoption “celebration” vs “normalization” - we cover it all. Trust me, you won’t want to miss out on this conversation, and if you like accents, then you’re in for a treat! Listen now.