This is part two of my interview with Ehsan Zaffar and if you’re tuning in here I highly recommend that after listening to this episode you go to the previous one and listen to the fascinating story of Ehsan’s family’s escape from war-torn Kuwait. Some crazy stuff there.

In today’s episode we talk about Ehsan’s passion - inequality, well, fight against inequality to be more precise. 

Ehsan is a civil rights lawyer, a professor, and an author. He is also the director of the Center on Inequality at ASU called The Difference Engine.

The way Ehsan talks about fighting for equality is not only passionate but it's a very different way of thinking about equality compared to what you hear 90% of the time.

Ehsan doesn't talk about "demolishing," “abolishing,” and "taking down the oppressors." He talks about creating systems that support. 

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