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2:02

Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.

2:04

The conference was over. The president won a pledge.

2:06

Americans worshiping government over God.

2:09

Extremely rare safety move

2:11

by.

2:11

A May 17th years. The Palestinians

2:13

and Israelis negotiated.

2:16

Is not and.

2:30

Hi friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet

2:32

Parshall. Happy Wednesday to you. Thrilled. We're going

2:34

to spend the hour together. And you

2:36

know where I'm going to start. Let's take a look at Israel.

2:39

So the white House now is taking heat

2:41

after it admitted it held up

2:43

an ammunition shipment to Israel,

2:45

which included bombs because of

2:47

opposition to the Rafah operation.

2:50

Senator Lindsey Graham called it, quote,

2:52

the worst possible signal to send

2:54

to the bad guys. I'm going to share some of that audio

2:56

with you on Friday, and we'll dig deeper

2:59

into this. But in the meantime, Prime

3:01

Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed that

3:03

yesterday's seizure of the Rafah passage

3:06

was necessary to destroy Hamas

3:08

capabilities. He is meeting today

3:10

with CIA Director William Burns about

3:13

the hostage negotiations with Hamas.

3:15

And in the meantime, two Israeli officials claim

3:17

Israel got played by the U.S. and

3:19

mediators after drafting what Israel

3:22

views as a New Deal and not being

3:24

transparent about it. Let me turn to my

3:26

friend Chris Mitchell again. Bureau chief

3:28

for CBN news, located in Jerusalem, for an

3:30

update. Have a listen.

3:31

In the face of U.S. pressure, Israel's

3:33

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

3:36

explained why the War Cabinet approved

3:38

its operation into Rafah.

3:40

Seizing the passage in Rafah today

3:42

is a very important step, an important

3:44

step on the way to destroying the remaining

3:47

military capabilities of Hamas,

3:49

including the elimination of the four

3:51

terrorist battalions in Rafah

3:53

and an important step to damage the

3:55

governmental capabilities of Hamas,

3:57

because as of this morning, we

3:59

denied Hamas a passage that was

4:01

essential for establishing its reign of

4:04

terror in the strip.

4:05

The white House, which is strongly opposed

4:07

an invasion of Rafah, says it's monitoring

4:10

the operation. What we've been.

4:11

Told by our Israeli

4:13

counterparts is that this operation

4:16

last night was limited and designed

4:18

to cut off Hamas's ability to smuggle weapons

4:20

and funds into Gaza. Now

4:22

our views on Rafah have remained the same.

4:24

On Tuesday, at the Capitol Hill ceremony

4:27

to remember survivors of the Holocaust,

4:29

President Joe Biden condemned the recent

4:32

rise of anti-Semitism and

4:34

the Hamas massacre on October

4:36

7th.

4:37

Now, here we

4:39

are, not 75

4:42

years later, but

4:44

just seven and a half months later,

4:47

and people are already forgetting. Are

4:50

already forgetting. That

4:53

Hamas unleashed this

4:55

terror. That was Hamas

4:57

that brutalized Israelis.

5:00

It was Hamas who took

5:02

and continues to hold hostages. I

5:05

have not forgotten, nor have you.

5:07

And we will not forget.

5:09

Also on Tuesday, the Biden administration

5:12

confirmed it's withholding a

5:14

large shipment of £2,500

5:17

bombs, fearing it would be used

5:19

against Rafa. Republican

5:21

Senator Lindsey Graham blasted

5:23

that decision on Fox News.

5:25

This is the worst possible signal

5:28

to send to all the bad guys that America

5:30

would be withholding weapons and ammunition

5:32

to the Jewish state who's under siege

5:35

on multiple fronts. That is just

5:37

inciting more violence.

5:38

Israeli journalist Gadi Taub tells

5:40

CBN news it comes while

5:42

Israel is fighting for its life.

5:44

They are now holding us by

5:46

the throat because they

5:49

are withholding ammunition

5:51

from the IDF. So Israel

5:53

needs to fight this war. If

5:55

it is to survive, it will need to fight more

5:57

wars because it would need to break

6:00

the noose that Iran has been constructing

6:03

around us. And the United States

6:05

is protecting that noose.

6:07

The U.S. still believes a ceasefire

6:09

can be worked out between Israel

6:11

and Hamas today. CIA

6:13

chief Bill Burns is expected

6:15

to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu.

6:18

Chris Mitchell CBN news, Jerusalem.

6:21

So again, you understand

6:23

how Israel has been absolutely consistent.

6:25

They are going to uproot Hamas

6:27

in its entirety. They know

6:29

that Rafa is very much of a center

6:32

for terrorist activity. They were not

6:34

going to let global pressure deter them

6:36

from doing what needed to be done. By the way, I sent out

6:38

a tweet yesterday of the tunnels that

6:40

they discovered in Rafa. No surprise there.

6:43

So again, innocent people living on top

6:45

while the terrorists are burrowing like

6:47

some animal that fears daylight

6:49

underground. So now the hostages

6:52

must be taken care of. Hamas not yet fully

6:54

rooted out, but again, with the

6:56

action that took place in Rafa yesterday, it it moves

6:58

them exponentially closer to

7:00

that point. But the hostage situation

7:03

still remains. And in the meantime, by the way, how

7:05

do you broker a peace agreement where you've got it

7:07

between Hamas, Egypt and Qatar?

7:09

Where was Israel in the midst of those conversations?

7:12

Nowhere to be found. So now, in the meantime, we've

7:14

got William Burns from the U.S. meeting with Benjamin

7:16

Netanyahu today. And we'll watch that one very carefully

7:18

to see what the outcome is. In the meantime,

7:21

let me tell you that there's a statue that's about to

7:23

be unveiled in the US Capitol. If you come

7:25

to my town in the rotunda, if

7:27

you see the Capitol dome from the outside underneath

7:29

it, it's called the rotunda. And in it

7:31

there's a long passageway that's

7:33

replete with statues. It's an absolutely

7:36

fascinating walk through American

7:38

history. One of the people there, by the way, is the man who

7:40

wrote Ben-Hur. If you do not know the

7:42

story behind Mr. Wallace, the man who authored

7:44

that story, you will discover that not only

7:46

did he participate in the Civil War, but

7:48

he was a man who decided to write Ben-Hur,

7:51

and during the writing of that book came

7:53

to faith in Jesus Christ. Was not a believer before

7:56

he started writing the book, but not unlike

7:58

the main character in his novel, has

8:00

an encounter with Jesus, and his life changes

8:02

forever. But their story after story

8:04

after stories affixed to those statues

8:06

and Statuary Hall. Well, next Thursday

8:09

at 11:00, there's going to be a ceremony.

8:11

It's going to be attended by Michael W

8:13

Smith, House speaker Mike Johnson and

8:16

other congressional representatives, as well as

8:18

Franklin Graham of Samaritan's Purse. Why

8:20

will he be there? Because it is going to

8:22

be the unveiling of a bronze statue

8:24

that was designed by an artist from Graham's birthplace

8:27

in Charlotte, North Carolina. It's going

8:29

to stand seven feet tall on a pedestal

8:31

and depict him gesturing toward

8:33

an open Bible in his hand as a

8:36

symbol of his life's work, a posture,

8:38

by the way we have seen through decades

8:40

of his ministry. But best of all,

8:42

there in the hallowed halls of government

8:44

will be the Word of God, because the pedestal

8:47

is going to be engraved with the words

8:49

John 316 and

8:51

John 14 six. John 316

8:54

of course, for God so loved the world, that he gave

8:56

his only begotten son, that whosoever

8:58

believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting

9:01

life. And John 14 six makes

9:03

the declarative statement that's at the same

9:05

time the most inclusive and exclusive

9:07

statement ever heard by humankind.

9:10

Jesus said, I am the way, the

9:12

truth, and the life, and no

9:15

man comes to the father but by

9:17

me. So that statue will be unveiled,

9:19

complete with scriptures. And

9:21

don't tell the Satanic Temple, because they'll have

9:23

apoplexy and there's nothing they can do about

9:26

it, by the way, because the North Carolina

9:28

General Assembly unanimously, unanimously

9:30

voted him the state's favorite son in 2013.

9:33

And then at the time that governor signed

9:35

the bill into law that set things in motion,

9:37

it was approved. And now that

9:39

statue is going to be there among

9:42

the hallowed halls of other Americans

9:44

representing their states and

9:46

the past. It's pretty exciting. We're

9:48

going to take a break and come right back, roll up your sleeves.

9:50

We're going to take a look at the globe around us with. Very,

9:53

very laser focused on Communist

9:55

China. Back after this. The

10:04

Bible tells us that in the latter days there will be

10:07

more and more false teachers, and we are hearing

10:09

from so many of them today. That's

10:11

why I've chosen misled as this month's truth

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tool, learn how to recognize false

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and harmful messages so rampant in the church

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with Janet parshall.org. We

10:30

are fortunate once again to spend time with Bill Gertz,

10:33

whose national security correspondent for the Washington

10:35

Times. He has been with The Times since

10:37

1985. He's the author

10:40

of multiple books and most of them

10:42

national best sellers. By the way, the

10:44

book that I keep picking, because once you

10:46

read that one, you're going to fall in love with his writing and you're going

10:48

to want to read everything else that Bill Gertz has written.

10:51

But this is a great foray into understanding

10:53

Communist China's goal, their

10:56

declared goal, by the way, and they don't

10:58

tiptoe around it. They are unembarrassed

11:00

by it. They are moving forward consistently

11:02

to it. And that is global supremacy,

11:05

hegemony, the big, heavy word that basically

11:07

means we're going to rule the world. So the title

11:09

of the book is called deceiving the Sky, and you have

11:11

to read the book to see what the derivation of

11:13

that title. But it's a very aptly titled

11:15

book and really does help you understand

11:18

what's going on inside Communist China. So

11:20

I've got that link on my website. I will

11:22

tell you also that Bill does

11:24

a fabulous podcast. He really

11:26

underscores the threat of communism. And

11:28

he's also on Twitter, and I've got a link so that you can follow

11:31

him there as well. But as is

11:33

our practice when Bill comes to visit, I take a look

11:35

at some of the more recent pieces that Bill's

11:37

written, and he is, uh, he's

11:39

just a very prolific author, and there's all

11:41

kinds of pieces. And the news, by its very nature,

11:43

tends to change on a regular basis. So

11:46

I try to take some of the most recent columns

11:48

that Bill has authored, so that you and I can get a pretty

11:50

sense of pretty good sense of what's going on in

11:52

the world around us. And because Bill

11:54

has been unwavering in putting a giant

11:56

spotlight on Communist China and their

11:58

declared goal of global supremacy,

12:01

I love to talk with Bill about China because

12:03

he's not caught in the kind of schizophrenic

12:06

trap that we have here in Washington, D.C.,

12:08

toward China. There are some people who believed

12:10

that if we simply introduced

12:12

China to the principles of the free

12:14

market, that somehow democracy

12:16

would be more dramatic, uh, attractive

12:18

to them, and they would give up their communist ways.

12:20

Well, not only has it not happened, but

12:23

they've helped to put this country in debt, and they've

12:25

got us in a stranglehold economically while they're

12:27

continuing to build their military, as

12:29

evidenced by a piece that Bill wrote recently,

12:31

again, with the idea that

12:34

China is doing a lot of dabbling

12:36

and experimentation and planning

12:38

with various forms of weaponry,

12:40

including viruses.

12:43

So there's nothing new under the sun about that bill. The warmest

12:45

of welcomes. That's where I want to go first, because

12:47

you had a piece with the headline that says research

12:49

Group used U.S. funds.

12:52

That's problematic right out of the gate for

12:54

dangerous virus experiments in

12:57

China lab. Here's the schizophrenic

12:59

linkage again. They're a

13:01

declared enemy of the United States. They have

13:03

made that known to every person under

13:05

the sun. And yet we're going to waltz with

13:07

them and doing experiments with viruses.

13:10

We've been through the pandemic. We know

13:12

how vulnerable we can be, not just

13:14

as a nation, but as a globe. And then

13:16

to know that US funds were backdoor to this

13:19

as well. Fill me in.

13:21

Uh, sure. Always great to be on the show.

13:24

Uh, this was a story that I did,

13:26

and it's based on a report that

13:28

was released last week by

13:31

the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus

13:33

Pandemic. They're the group

13:35

that's part of the Government

13:38

Oversight and Accountability, uh,

13:40

House project, uh, House Committee.

13:42

And they've been digging into

13:44

the origins of Covid and trying

13:47

to get through the smoke

13:49

and mirrors that have been put up,

13:51

uh, by academics and

13:53

in part, some parts of the government trying

13:55

to prevent them from doing it. And

13:58

they really, uh, zeroed in

14:00

for the first time. The report was released on

14:02

the same day that a person named

14:05

Peter Daszak, who is president of

14:07

a New York based EcoHealth

14:09

Alliance, which was extensively

14:12

involved with the Wuhan Institute

14:14

of Virology. That's the laboratory

14:16

that two US intelligence

14:19

agencies believe was the source

14:21

for the Covid 19 pandemic.

14:23

And so the report went into

14:25

detail to say that they

14:27

had they had uncovered

14:29

pretty solid evidence that the

14:31

government was linked to this

14:34

gain of function virus research,

14:36

basically deadly research

14:39

that makes viruses from

14:41

bats more susceptible to humans.

14:43

Ostensibly, they were doing this to try to

14:45

find a vaccine, but we now know

14:48

that there were deep ties

14:50

between the Wuhan Institute of Virology

14:52

and the PLA. That's the People's

14:54

Liberation Army, which is secretly

14:56

developing a biological

14:59

weapons.

15:00

So it raises so many questions. First

15:02

of all, do you remember during the course of Covid,

15:04

when questions were asked of Anthony Fauci,

15:06

among others, about gain of function? There

15:09

was this reticence to acknowledge that even that

15:11

kind of work was being done. So do we now know definitively

15:13

that, in fact, they were working on gain of function?

15:16

And can you translate what that phrase means to

15:18

our audience?

15:19

Yes. Um, well, first

15:21

off, uh, this Peter Daszak and

15:24

his testimony explained that

15:26

he didn't define gain

15:28

of function research the way

15:30

that other people did. He basically

15:32

tried to define it down. The

15:34

research they were doing, he said, was not gain

15:37

of function. Well, it was in reality.

15:39

And that's the reason we had

15:41

the scientists who came out and they

15:44

wrote a letter to the journal Lancet

15:46

which said that anybody who suggests

15:48

that the virus came from a laboratory

15:51

was engaged in conspiracy theories.

15:53

And we now know that that was a complete

15:55

lie and a complete cover up by

15:57

people like Peter Daszak. And

16:00

we haven't gotten to the bottom of whether Anthony

16:02

Fauci, who was, uh, part of

16:04

the NIH, National

16:07

Institute for Allergies and Infectious

16:09

Diseases, how what he

16:11

what his role was. But it's pretty clear

16:13

now that the government was funding

16:15

some of this research in Wuhan, and

16:18

they were doing it in a covert way.

16:20

In other words, they gave

16:22

the money to EcoHealth Alliance.

16:24

EcoHealth Alliance said, well, we

16:26

don't call that gain of function. And yet

16:28

they gave it to the Chinese, which

16:31

were doing this gain of function. Gain

16:33

of function means you manipulate viruses.

16:36

Uh, and it gets pretty technical, but basically

16:38

you manipulate it so that they, they

16:40

become more infectious, the diseases

16:43

to humans, because a lot of these

16:45

bat and animal viruses aren't

16:47

infectious to humans. But if you make them infectious,

16:49

the human bingo, you

16:51

end up with a pandemic. And that's kind

16:53

of what happened.

16:54

This is so volatile, and I don't want

16:57

to move past this story too quickly, but I want my friends

16:59

to understand just context a little bit. So

17:01

when you come and you testify

17:03

on Capitol Hill, you raise an oath. You promise to tell the

17:05

truth if you're caught lying. By the way, that is an

17:07

offense. And you need to understand

17:09

that what Bill is talking about is stuff that's

17:12

now out in the open. It's permanently in the Congressional

17:14

Record. So this isn't this is not

17:16

conspiracy. This isn't some

17:18

fringe element talking. This isn't some

17:20

social platform where some person who's

17:22

living in a cave is putting this information out.

17:25

The things that a lot of people were asking

17:27

legitimate questions during the pandemic

17:29

are now coming to light, and the answer's in

17:32

all truth are rather disconcerting.

17:34

I still want to understand how

17:36

the United States is waltzing with

17:38

Communist China and what that means going

17:41

forward, particularly when they're manipulating viruses.

17:43

Back after this with Bill Gertz. We

18:02

are so privileged to spend time regularly with

18:04

Bill Gertz, national security correspondent for

18:06

The Washington Times, an award winning

18:08

author, best selling author, by the way. And

18:10

I don't want to jump over this because I think this

18:12

speaks to the heart of a lot of people who were saying, we have

18:14

questions, legitimate questions. And

18:17

when the legitimate questions were raised

18:19

during a global pandemic, people

18:21

who dared to question the narrative by, quote,

18:23

the cult of experts, I will use that phrase

18:25

purposely that we were marginalized.

18:28

They were conspiratorialists. They were taken

18:31

off of social platforms. It

18:33

was either the narrative of the federal government

18:35

or you were going to be silenced. And so

18:37

now this hearing that took place on Capitol Hill

18:40

is digging down. And I'm glad, by the way, that

18:42

on the Hill, they are still trying to get to the

18:44

base of what happened with this virus, because if it

18:46

happened once, it most assuredly can and

18:48

probably will happen again. So the

18:50

problem here in a nutshell, is the

18:52

fact that our tax dollars were backdoored

18:54

to this, to an organization called EcoHealth,

18:57

by the way. And as I understand by

18:59

way of your article, Bill, they were getting, according

19:01

to Mr. Daszak, who was testifying on the Hill,

19:03

that they got close to

19:05

$16 million

19:08

annually, and that

19:10

in the beginning, this man, Mr.

19:12

Daszak, was part of the crowd that shouted

19:15

that Covid, uh, didn't

19:17

start in the lab in

19:19

Wuhan. And this was this mythology,

19:21

that it was a bat that transmitted it

19:24

in a wet market. And anybody who dared

19:26

to question that was thrown against the wall.

19:28

What bothers me even more is

19:30

that EcoHealth has an alliance

19:32

with the World Health Organization, because, according

19:34

to your piece, the president of EcoHealth

19:37

served with the World Health Organization.

19:39

This is the team, this unelected group

19:41

of globalists now who want the

19:43

authority not elected, not given, not

19:45

earned. The people have not given this authority

19:47

to the World Health Organization, but they

19:49

want to determine what constitutes a pandemic,

19:51

and they want to call the shots on how a pandemic is

19:53

going to take place. These are the same people

19:56

who denied the fact that this

19:58

started in a lab. And worse than that,

20:00

bill, they sat on information for months,

20:03

and only God knows how many people

20:05

got injured as a result of the virus because

20:07

the World Health Organization sat for a while.

20:10

So this raises so many questions. First of

20:12

all, and you point this out in your article, where's

20:14

the oversight? The subcommittee

20:16

chairman apparently picked up on this, saying

20:18

that they're getting federal funds. This has to do

20:20

with multi-million dollar grants that go to

20:22

NIH and the National Institute

20:25

of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which

20:27

Anthony Fauci headed until December

20:30

2022. And where was

20:32

the oversight on how this money was being used?

20:34

It was bad enough that they wanted to even consider

20:36

manipulating viruses, but to do it

20:38

with an entity that is

20:40

antithetical to everything we believe and has made

20:43

us a declared enemy is just. It's

20:45

beyond the pale of comprehension for me. Explain

20:47

this to me.

20:48

Well, um, yeah, in

20:51

the context of it, a lot of these

20:53

scientists, uh, Peter Daszak

20:55

at EcoHealth, uh, Ralph Baric

20:58

at the University of North

21:00

Carolina, they saw

21:02

China as a way to circumvent

21:05

US restrictions on

21:07

dangerous virus research like gain

21:09

of function. So they were basically

21:11

reaching out to the Chinese. And

21:14

and it appears now that

21:16

the federal government, through NIH was

21:18

was basically in on on the deal.

21:21

Um, and you mentioned the figures

21:23

16 million a year for EcoHealth

21:25

Alliance. They're still getting

21:27

paid that now, Congress has been

21:29

unsuccessful in blocking

21:31

further funding. This hearing

21:34

that where the president of EcoHealth,

21:36

Peter Daszak, testified it

21:38

was it was unanimous from both sides

21:40

of the aisle. Both Democrats and Republicans

21:43

were saying that no more federal funds

21:45

should go to this group. And he

21:47

the testimony was very

21:50

suspect. He was basically

21:52

equivocating. He was trying

21:54

to say that he didn't do things

21:56

that that documents showed that he did,

21:59

like trying to play down or hide

22:01

his work with the Wuhan Institute of

22:03

Virology. So clearly, as

22:05

you're I think you're right on the mark that there was

22:07

not a lot of oversight on this,

22:09

and they all did it in the in

22:12

the name of kind of, uh, preparing

22:14

for health emergencies. And, of course,

22:17

you know, we had the biggest health

22:19

emergency since the the flu

22:21

pandemic, uh, over 100

22:23

years ago.

22:24

Well, I think what bothers me more,

22:26

too, is that you had a man who was calling the shots

22:28

in our country, a fellow by the name of Anthony Fauci,

22:31

who now, according to testimony

22:33

that's coming out ex post facto. Really,

22:35

he was being dishonest and being gracious

22:38

here. The word is really lied. He

22:40

was absolutely disseminating false

22:42

information about working, about gain

22:44

of function, etc.. Well, I don't

22:46

understand. I mean, it raises a can of panoply.

22:49

Man looks on the outward appearance, God looks on the heart.

22:51

I don't know what's going on inside his heart, but

22:53

why would you stand in front of microphones

22:55

next to the president, come and testify on Capitol

22:58

Hill and repeat over and over and

23:00

over. Over again. Things that you knew as born

23:02

out now, ex post facto through testimony on

23:04

the Hill were absolutely not true.

23:07

Yeah, well, you know, it reminds

23:09

me of a saying that I've used in

23:11

the past about what the CIA

23:14

and its analysts say. The

23:16

saying goes, this is this is a quip, but

23:18

it goes, we may not always

23:20

be right, but we're never wrong.

23:23

And so I, I

23:25

think that's kind of what's at play here. Government

23:27

bureaucrats. And I did a whole book on

23:29

government bureaucracy called The Failure

23:31

Factory, which looked at how government

23:34

bureaucrats are concerned

23:36

not with getting the mission done for

23:38

whatever their agency or department

23:40

is in charge of. It's to protect

23:42

their budgets and their, uh,

23:44

leadership from from criticism

23:47

or even oversight. So I think that's

23:49

kind of what happened here. We we had a

23:51

massive failure on the part of oversight.

23:54

Uh, the by the way, the this

23:56

select subcommittee on the coronavirus

23:59

pandemic just released documents

24:01

this week, and I wrote about this in my latest

24:03

Inside the Ring column in the Washington Times.

24:06

Uh, and the documents were heavily

24:08

redacted. In other words, all that was

24:10

left were subheads.

24:12

But the subheads for the sections

24:15

were, uh, provided new

24:17

details about the Chinese military's

24:19

role and how it was President

24:21

XI Jinping himself who was responsible

24:24

for covering up the Covid 19

24:26

outbreak.

24:27

Well, that that's so explosive, bill, can I

24:29

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25:57

can I go back to the headline? So this is a piece

25:59

that you just wrote for Inside the The

26:01

Ring.

26:03

Uh, yes. This just came out.

26:06

Yeah.

26:06

Okay. And the headline.

26:07

And. And

26:10

the, uh, the chairman of the

26:12

subcommittee is, uh, Brad Westrup,

26:15

uh, Ohio Republican. He

26:17

wrote to the secretary of state

26:19

asking that the heavily

26:21

redacted the information in the redactions

26:24

be immediately released. So he wants

26:26

the American people to know

26:28

the information that other nations

26:30

have. These two cables came from

26:33

Taiwan to the State Department. So

26:35

it's probably Taiwanese intelligence.

26:37

But the documents don't say that. Again, they're

26:39

heavily redacted. Only the subheads

26:42

of each section are made public.

26:44

Wow. And the fact that they're redacted

26:46

immediately means there's a national security issue afoot

26:48

here. So that's important. And then don't

26:50

miss the obvious. So there's a linkage between national

26:53

security and the Covid virus.

26:55

But you talked about the role that President XI

26:57

plays in all of this. Restate that again.

27:00

Yeah. Um, the document

27:03

said basically

27:05

in one of the subheads that,

27:07

uh, XI Jinping, who's the

27:09

supreme leader, he obfuscated

27:12

his role in covering

27:14

it up in order to avoid political

27:17

backlash. So he was basically

27:19

the lead guy. And it's it's it's

27:21

it's clear. Um, and

27:23

in fact, the headline on one of the documents was

27:26

the PRC central government and not local

27:28

officials, was responsible for

27:30

covering up the coronavirus. And

27:32

they said also that, uh,

27:35

Beijing knew earlier than they admit

27:37

that about the disease outbreak.

27:40

And they said that if they had

27:42

done it, if the initial

27:44

outbreak could have been contained,

27:46

except Beijing covered it

27:48

up. So it's clear that there's

27:50

some valuable information. Hopefully this

27:52

subcommittee will get will get to the bottom

27:55

of it and they'll release it. My, my,

27:57

you know, having dealt with intelligence,

27:59

information a lot, uh, in

28:01

my reporting work, um, it's probably

28:04

from the Taiwanese intelligence service, which

28:06

have very good sources inside

28:08

of China compared to, uh, our

28:10

intelligence services.

28:12

Yeah, that makes perfect sense. So here's

28:14

what we know definitively. It wasn't a wet

28:16

market. It wasn't a bat. It was a lab.

28:18

But the question we don't have answered yet, fully

28:20

is whether this, uh, release

28:22

into the general public was intentional

28:24

or accidental. Do you think we'll ever get an answer

28:27

to that?

28:29

Uh, maybe once the,

28:31

uh, communist regime in Beijing falls

28:34

and, uh, we gain access

28:36

to that and eventually they will, I

28:39

predict, uh, but, yeah, we

28:41

need some source within the,

28:43

uh, the Politburo of the

28:45

Chinese Communist Party to find that out

28:47

because they have, uh, there's

28:50

also reports and I've reported on some

28:52

of this, that there was

28:54

one of the top officials,

28:57

uh, sent a bunch of documents

28:59

on the pandemic to

29:01

his wife in Australia. And,

29:04

uh, those documents are supposedly

29:06

in the hands of the Australian government,

29:09

although it's never been confirmed

29:11

that they have them. But they detail a lot

29:13

of the questions like you asked,

29:15

was this intentionally released? The

29:17

intelligence community's official assessment

29:20

is that it was not released intentionally.

29:22

It was not designed as a biological

29:24

weapon. But they've been so wrong

29:27

in so many different ways that it's

29:29

hard. They have no credibility on this.

29:31

I another theory I have is

29:33

that after the

29:35

Iraq weapons of mass

29:37

destruction debacle, where the

29:39

intelligence community's falsely

29:42

said Iraq had major

29:44

stockpiles of chemical weapons

29:46

and and other strategic

29:48

weapons, uh, the CIA

29:50

has gone to the point where they won't

29:53

unless they have a smoking gun. They won't

29:55

say what they really believe or what they

29:57

know.

29:58

Yeah. Wow. Amazing. But keeping

30:00

that in mind, while we don't have a definitive here, and

30:02

this is where I'm reminded of my mama saying

30:04

there's a healthy side to paranoia, I

30:06

think in this case, it's a watchword.

30:08

Let me talk about the piece that you wrote that apparently

30:11

the military and you taught me years ago,

30:13

and I have never forgotten this. Nothing happens

30:15

with the PLA and that communist

30:18

regime without there being an intersection with the military.

30:20

When you think about it, commonsensically, it

30:22

has to have an intersection with the military. If you're

30:24

moving for global supremacy because you're going to need your

30:26

military. So it follows suit. But

30:28

you point out now that the military is conducting

30:31

research on sea based neurotoxins.

30:34

Again, the idea that they're moving

30:36

forward with trying to develop deadly

30:38

biological weapons. Talk to me about this.

30:41

Yes, this was based

30:44

on a

30:47

State Department annually

30:50

publishes something called the

30:52

Arms Compliance Report, and

30:54

it's often used to disclose

30:57

information, intelligence information

30:59

that has been secret for a long time.

31:01

And that's what happened just this

31:03

month or last month in their latest

31:06

compliance report. And I

31:08

read these very carefully. And I can tell

31:10

when there's new information, because most

31:12

of the time they just repeat what they've say

31:14

from the previous year's report. But

31:17

there was a little gem, a little nugget

31:19

of of journalistic gold

31:21

in this latest report. And that's

31:23

what was that? The PLA, the People's Liberation

31:25

Army, was developing

31:28

a marine toxins. These are

31:30

highly potent neurotoxins.

31:33

Um, some people may be familiar

31:35

with the idea of puffer fish, which

31:38

I know in Japan is a delicacy.

31:40

And if you eat it, a certain way, it's not

31:42

lethal. But you you hear reports all

31:44

the time that someone didn't prepare

31:46

it properly and died from the the neurotoxins

31:49

in a puffer fish eating sushi of

31:51

some sort. Uh, but these deadly,

31:54

uh, marine toxins

31:56

are being weaponized by the Chinese

31:58

military, and it's being done in secret.

32:01

Uh, when I queried the State Department,

32:03

I said, do you have any comment on this? I

32:05

got a kind of a non-response.

32:08

But what they did say was,

32:10

uh, we have concerns, the fact

32:12

that China has refused

32:15

to enter to hold regular talks

32:17

with United States Chinese officials

32:19

and US officials to discuss

32:21

US concerns about its biological

32:24

arms programs. And China cut

32:26

them off a couple of years ago

32:28

and have not returned, so there's

32:30

no real forum for that there. There's

32:32

an upcoming forum that's held

32:34

under the auspices of the Biological

32:37

Weapons Convention, which again, the

32:39

Arms Compliance Treaty said the Chinese

32:41

appear to be violating that treaty. It's

32:43

supposed to be a meeting in August of that group.

32:46

So we'll see if there's any progress

32:48

in trying to get to the ground.

32:50

Truth about Chinese, uh, marine

32:53

toxin, biological weapons.

32:54

But that gets dropped, does it not? Contextually,

32:57

in a panoply of other biological

32:59

weapons that they're trying to develop? You've been writing

33:01

about this quite a bit over the last several months.

33:04

Yes. You know, in fact, uh,

33:07

I've identified, uh, through

33:09

government reports, the key

33:12

entities that are engaged in

33:14

Chinese biological research. One

33:16

is the, uh, the PLA

33:18

Academy of Military Medical

33:20

Sciences. Now, they were sanctioned

33:22

back in 2021, but

33:25

not for, uh, biological

33:27

weapons. They were sanctioned for doing what

33:29

the Commerce said were brain warfare

33:31

weapons. So they're building some

33:33

really deadly stuff. And

33:36

brain warfare could be anything from,

33:38

uh, directed energy, microwaves

33:40

to what some people suspect

33:43

may be involved with the so-called Havana

33:45

syndrome. These incidents, where

33:47

our diplomats had intelligence

33:49

personnel, had been bombarded

33:52

with some type of energy which has caused

33:54

brain damage and severe,

33:56

severe, uh, health problems.

33:59

Wow. You hear this stuff? And all

34:01

I can think is that if Clancy

34:04

and shows like Reacher

34:06

and Jack Ryan and all those other shows are

34:08

out there, and that's fiction, one wonders how

34:10

much farther we are in real life. So I'm

34:12

just going to ask one question on behalf

34:14

of everybody who's hearing this stuff going.

34:16

Surely we've got some good guys inside

34:18

the ring, and that means the Pentagon. If you don't know where

34:20

that comes from, that are very cognizant

34:22

of the fact that in their decided and

34:24

declared goal of global supremacy

34:27

in their panoply of weapons is going to be

34:29

biological weaponry that we are either

34:31

working on antidotes or figuring

34:33

out anticipated moves. It's like a game of chess.

34:35

What's their next move? You have to think three plays

34:37

ahead. So I'm just going to believe

34:39

and you can say yes or no or say no comment.

34:42

But I'm going to believe that we have people on

34:44

our side who are anticipating the chess

34:46

moves, because in the end, this is more than

34:48

a board game. This is a deadly sport.

34:52

Yeah. I mean, um, the

34:55

Chinese regarded in fact, the

34:57

US reports have said, in fact,

34:59

just recently, the testimony from

35:01

the director of the Defense Intelligence

35:04

Agency, uh, to Congress,

35:06

he said that the Chinese regard

35:08

biological weapons as

35:11

a new domain for warfare. So they're

35:13

they're gearing up for, uh,

35:15

uh, you know, using, uh, toxins

35:18

and other kinds of biological

35:21

weapons in a future conflict.

35:22

Yeah. Wow. It's like something out of Manchurian

35:25

Candidate, only it's real unbelievable.

35:27

So I want to. And this is a continuum

35:29

here because I want people to understand. And

35:31

they would read this in deceiving the Sky, that

35:33

you need to understand that China can make

35:35

all kinds of advances forward without

35:37

having to fire a single shot.

35:40

You taught me that a long time ago. So

35:42

whether it's the inclusion and

35:44

inclusion of Chinese ideology

35:46

and entertainment at universities, in

35:48

corporations, or bringing

35:51

fentanyl into the country,

35:53

and that's where I want to go next. And we're going to start this

35:55

bill, and then the music's going to play. So forgive me if I

35:57

have to interrupt, but your headline reads

35:59

Chinese Government linked to illicit fentanyl

36:02

trade. And again, this is another House select

36:04

committee. That's there's the music. The

36:06

House Select Committee has given us direct

36:08

evidence of Beijing's involvement in this.

36:11

May we please pick it up exactly at that point

36:13

when we get back again, can I just make a statement

36:15

at this point for a whole lot of people listening, literally

36:17

from Guam to the Cayman Islands, you're

36:19

thinking, oh, whoa, and you're ready to grab the smelling

36:22

salts. Don't. This isn't about making you fearful.

36:24

It's about making you aware of the fact that the world

36:27

is a dangerous place. But remember what

36:29

the Bible tells us. Greater is he that's in us

36:31

than he that's in the world. And not only that,

36:33

but this is why you pray for those in authority. So

36:35

they're making wise decisions to understand

36:37

exactly how evil there

36:39

are. Some in the world bad actors are out there. So

36:42

pray for those in authority so they know how to react

36:44

appropriately. Bill Gertz is with us. We're going

36:46

to take a break back after this. We're

37:02

visiting with Bill Gertz, national security

37:04

correspondent for The Washington Times, best

37:06

selling author, award winning journalist

37:08

as well. He's been with The Times since 1985.

37:11

Just stellar work. Unbelievable. So

37:13

a piece, again, that you authored recently with the headline

37:15

Chinese Government Linked to Illicit Fentanyl

37:17

Trade. We know that it is absolutely

37:20

a horrible plight on our nation right now.

37:22

So now, again, thank God for the

37:24

oversight that's being offered by this committee on the Hill.

37:26

What are they? What have they learned so far?

37:28

And share that with us. With us please.

37:31

Yeah, this is really a groundbreaking

37:34

new information. And I'll tell you why.

37:36

Um, a couple of years ago, I

37:38

did a piece on Chinese, the Chinese

37:41

role in fentanyl

37:43

exports and into

37:45

the United States, which is killing

37:47

100,000 or more people

37:49

a year. I mean, it's on a war

37:52

level, uh, casualty rate.

37:54

Um, and I interviewed, uh,

37:56

the two officials, one who was

37:58

the acting Drug Enforcement Administration,

38:01

uh, administrator and one was

38:04

the National Office of Drug

38:06

Control policy director in

38:08

the Trump administration. And they both

38:10

told me that US intelligence had

38:12

no direct information

38:15

linking the Chinese government

38:17

to imports of fentanyl,

38:19

which can be shipped in very small

38:22

packages because it's so potent,

38:24

it's really like a weapon of mass destruction.

38:27

Um, and I was surprised by that. But yet

38:30

when they pressed the government, the

38:32

Chinese stopped sending it directly.

38:34

They small packages and other through

38:37

mules and others, you know, drug mules,

38:39

they send it to Mexico. So clearly

38:41

the Chinese government had a role

38:44

in the imports. Well, this,

38:46

uh, select committee on

38:48

the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party,

38:50

went through, used open source information

38:53

to find direct links, then found that the

38:55

Chinese government is actually subsidizing

38:58

companies that are producing the

39:00

chemicals used to make fentanyl and

39:02

actually fentanyl products themselves.

39:05

Uh, I think what was really important in

39:08

the uh, uh, report

39:10

is that it quotes from a 1999

39:13

book, which in my book, deceiving the Sky,

39:15

quotes extensively as well, called

39:17

Unrestricted Warfare. And

39:19

that book was by two PLA

39:21

colonels in 1999, in which

39:23

they urged the military to use all forms

39:26

of warfare to achieve their strategic

39:29

goals. One of those forms of

39:31

warfare was, quote, drug warfare

39:34

obtaining sudden and huge illicit

39:36

profits by spreading disaster

39:38

in other countries. The select committee

39:40

report says PRC sourced illicit

39:42

fentanyl and fentanyl precursors. Precursors

39:45

have indeed spread disaster in the

39:47

United States. So why isn't

39:49

the Biden administration imposing

39:51

sanctions and taking action against the Chinese

39:53

government? That's my question. They should

39:55

be doing that. And this report

39:58

should trigger some major

40:00

penalties on the Chinese government.

40:02

But the Biden administration is

40:04

too weak and in the appeasement

40:06

mode to do stuff like that.

40:08

Mhm. Doesn't it also raise the question of

40:10

a porous border. Because if they're partnering with

40:13

the cartels, it's coming up through the open borders

40:15

in the South is it not.

40:17

Yes, definitely. I mean,

40:19

the border is open and,

40:22

uh, the drugs can be coming up through there.

40:24

Like I said, they a lot of these drugs

40:26

are manufactured together

40:28

with the Chinese and Mexican

40:31

drug cartels. And the Chinese

40:33

are also supplying, uh, special

40:36

pill processing machines to make

40:38

pills. And so it's it's

40:40

really a catastrophe for the United

40:42

States. And, uh, the Chinese regarded

40:44

as, uh, again, a form

40:46

of warfare against the United States.

40:48

Mhm. Let me linger on that, because you

40:51

taught me this bill and credit needs to go where credit

40:53

is due. So in their goal for global

40:55

supremacy they don't need to

40:57

necessarily have rockets and bombs. They

40:59

can do this without firing a shot. So

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if they partner with the cartels which by the way you've

41:03

taught me also is financially advantageous

41:05

to them, then they bring it into the country

41:08

and you start killing Americans as a result

41:10

of, uh, getting exposed

41:12

to fentanyl. You've killed an American without

41:14

firing a bullet. I mean, it's really sort of

41:16

finance. Totally feasible. It's

41:18

expeditious, and it moves you closer

41:20

to a hegemony by systematically picking

41:23

off Americans vis a vis fentanyl. It's a

41:25

it's a demonic plan when you think about

41:27

it.

41:28

Absolutely. And it's interesting

41:30

that you mentioned that I'd like to plug

41:32

my latest Victory over Communism

41:35

podcast, which just posted

41:37

today on Victory over Communism

41:39

net. I look at

41:41

a fascinating new book and you

41:43

should probably have him on your show is

41:45

Stephen Mosher. He's written a book

41:48

called The Devil and Communist China,

41:50

and he reveals very much

41:52

the same views that I've had,

41:54

which is that, uh, Chinese

41:58

communism is not built just on fraudulent

42:00

Marxist precepts and deadly,

42:03

uh, Leninist and Maoist,

42:06

uh, practices. It's

42:08

truly diabolical. It's truly

42:10

satanic. And, uh, his book,

42:13

uh, this that's a major thrust of my

42:15

latest podcast. So I wanted to give it a little plug

42:17

before I end here.

42:18

Thank you for doing that. I know Steve, he's been

42:20

on the program multiple times. He went

42:22

through the revolution. He wrote the book a mother's

42:24

ordeal. He described what their forced abortion

42:26

policy was like. So he recognizes

42:29

demonic activity when he sees it. And I

42:31

really appreciate the way that in his new book, he's

42:33

really helping us to understand that it's not

42:35

the same old, same old, that they are wholly

42:38

committed to their worldview and their

42:40

stated goal. Let me just go back real quick

42:42

to the fentanyl, uh, hearings on the Hill.

42:44

I found it fascinating that former AG Bill Barr

42:47

was a part of this. And he quote, you quote him

42:49

in the piece saying that the CCP isn't they're

42:51

not bystanders. They're prime movers.

42:53

In fact, you quote him as saying directly, they are

42:55

knee deep in actively sponsoring,

42:58

encouraging and facilitating the production

43:00

and export of fentanyl and fentanyl precursors

43:02

for distribution in the US.

43:05

So this isn't a sidebar. This isn't

43:07

an unexpected outcome. This is

43:09

with pinpoint precision, part

43:11

of the plan of the CCP. You

43:13

know, you raise the issue of sanctions. So let's just

43:15

talk in honesty, because I love the way you're

43:17

so forthright about China, and you're also

43:20

an optimistic realist, but a realist

43:22

nonetheless. Who is going to sanction

43:24

China? Have we ever sanctioned China,

43:26

at least within the last couple of, uh,

43:28

administrations? Do they ever get sanctioned?

43:31

Yeah. No. This is a huge problem.

43:34

I'll never forget. I think it was in

43:36

the late 90s. I broke

43:38

a major story that China was providing

43:40

ring magnets to Pakistan. And

43:42

they were, they were. And everybody says,

43:44

well, what does that have to do with anything?

43:47

Well, it turns out the ring magnets were

43:49

used by Pakistan to

43:51

spin, uh, uranium for

43:53

nuclear fuel for their nuclear weapons.

43:55

So China actually assisted the

43:58

nuclear weapons program of Pakistan, and

44:00

there were never any sanctions imposed.

44:02

So it's it's been decades that

44:04

there's been no policies to

44:06

punish Beijing. And when you don't punish

44:08

them for these nefarious activities,

44:10

guess what? They do. They keep doing

44:13

doing it.

44:13

They keep.

44:14

Doing it.

44:14

That's exactly right. Oh my word,

44:16

Bill, you and I both know I had many more of

44:18

your columns I wanted to discuss, but every

44:21

time you come, it's such eye opening information.

44:23

Thank you. Please keep on keeping

44:25

on. You are sounding an alarm. You're

44:28

a clarion call for common

44:30

sense and national security and

44:32

preparedness. We just need to understand that

44:34

outside of Eden, it is a

44:36

fallen world. And there are some bad actors

44:39

out there, and the PLA and the CCP would

44:41

definitely fall into that category. I want to encourage

44:43

my friends, however, to read your book. So start with deceiving

44:45

the Sky as a book. You're going to be

44:48

addicted. You're going to want to read the rest of his books, but follow

44:50

him at Gertz file. Com Gertz,

44:52

Fool.com and listen to his podcast. Fabulous.

44:55

Thank you so much, Bill. We'll see you next time, friends.