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people. Call Stormy Daniels where the immortal

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words uttered in a New York

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courtroom this week. The trial relating

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to alleged hush money payments by

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Donald Trump to the adult film

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Star has been ongoing since the

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middle of April, but it wasn't

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until Wednesday that one of the

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star witnesses was called the Stand

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Daniel justifying that she had an

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ongoing affair with Donald Trump and

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would then paid one hundred thirty

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thousand dollars that Trump's direction to

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stay quiet ahead of the Twenty

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Sixteen election. The former. Presidents demeanor

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in court suggested he was extremely

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angry at having to. Listen to

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lurid details. Of their alleged sexual

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encounter and twenty six and his

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outbursts, some social media and to

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reporters have seen him find for

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contempt of court. Or

1:03

the thousand dollar fine each on I

1:06

think the George realize that he could

1:08

just keep pay those one thousand dollar

1:10

fines and perpetuity so the judge like

1:12

out of be threatened him with jail

1:15

time. Supply. Early May ultimately

1:17

avoid jail if acquitted of the

1:19

charges, He's currently running the risk

1:21

of a stint for contempt. This

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isn't the news from the Irish

1:25

Times. I'm Bernice Harrison today a

1:28

stormy week and that Donald Trump

1:30

hush money trial. I speak to

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Irish Times Washington correspondent keeps telling.

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Hi. There keith. I Bernice.

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Now. This criminal case center is

1:40

on allegations the former Us President

1:42

Donald Trump falsified business records to

1:45

hide hush money payments to Stormy

1:47

Daniels and Twenty Sixteen over an

1:49

alleged sexual encounter that happen ten

1:51

years previously he was running for

1:53

President at the time. And the

1:55

crux of the case is that

1:57

this payment was a beard to

1:59

influence. The Election court

2:01

case. Going on since April, but

2:04

this was a big week. Why?

2:07

While. It was a big week

2:09

because I suppose Stormy Daniels herself I

2:11

took the stands and it's been a

2:13

very strange case in the sense that

2:16

I as he by line Bernice the

2:18

backdrop is quite sort of salacious at

2:20

and racy and all the rest of

2:22

us whereas the. The.

2:25

Bones of the Case. The prosecution

2:27

will attempt to prove a kind

2:29

of quite dry. It's basically the

2:31

into accounting and paperwork on their

2:33

if they're They're ultimately trying to

2:35

link Donald Trump to the paper

2:37

trail that led to these payments

2:39

and praised as he was influenced

2:41

by his as an heir to

2:43

of is as you say You

2:45

know suppress add the details so

2:47

so it wouldn't I wouldn't say

2:49

I go against Summit in the

2:51

In not your selection in terms

2:54

of their potential voters. Opinion of

2:56

i want to Tsunami Danielson yeah

2:58

she she took the sun for

3:00

for five hours on she was

3:03

at taken true in great detail

3:05

by the prosecution her her her

3:07

meeting with Donald Trump size and

3:09

six other a golf tournaments in

3:12

in Lake Tahoe wire shields me

3:14

except as his an invitation to

3:16

go to dinner at turned up

3:18

was was sort of driven across

3:21

the his them. On

3:23

Tell Suisse ah where she confirmed

3:25

that a sexual encounter had taken

3:27

place and kind of went into

3:30

tabloid asked detail or rather was

3:32

was invited to abide by the

3:34

prosecution as t the details of

3:36

bf of banning tighter. She

3:40

told the court today he'd open the door

3:42

wearing set in pajamas. She said they'd been

3:44

joking around that she'd spanked him on the

3:46

bus with a magazine. But. Then

3:48

she describes an intimidating power dynamic she

3:50

says. When she returned from the bathroom

3:53

to find him in his underwear, she

3:55

thought to herself, oh my god, what

3:57

did I misread to get here. He

4:00

said she blew. It was pretty embarrassing for

4:02

for for Donald Trump I guess. Said to

4:04

sit and listen. To this but

4:06

I but he had to do here today

4:08

So his defense team requested a a mistrial

4:11

or am at the and which was which

4:13

is others he denied by by the judge

4:15

at Wow on Marshawn. Slighted.

4:17

A request. To mr they just

4:19

out that the details that pads

4:22

and been hardened the court said

4:24

there was no way as as

4:26

as as add Todd Lance that

4:28

said to defense guess ability to

4:30

to on ring the bell and

4:32

that the Falcons you know deeply

4:34

prejudicial against against their clients and

4:36

of it at the time Trump

4:39

would have been a six year

4:41

old very wealthy businessman see laws

4:43

twenty. Seven. See worked in the

4:45

adult film industry. Those details come out

4:47

that it's it's It's really shocking to

4:49

test the you. Really do not want

4:51

to put in your mind you need

4:54

or want to visual of him in

4:56

a sudden pajamas but all these really

4:58

really is t details emerged yeah yeah

5:00

exactly before before they went to dinner

5:02

they just they had they decide they

5:05

talk for a while and he said

5:07

asked her about her lies in the

5:09

an adult entertainment industry and including whether

5:11

she'd ever tested for Stds and she

5:14

said yes the teach and she had

5:16

tested and and backward i you know

5:18

completely clean record. Their. Arms

5:21

things progress. And yes, she confirmed

5:23

that they had a. Brief

5:26

sexual encountered through which she she

5:28

said she she doesn't remember much

5:30

of Buys. She

5:34

wasn't drunk, she hadn't taken any drugs, but

5:36

that she kind of black died during them

5:38

afterwards. She recall that she, yeah, She.

5:41

Was kind of shaken. she difficulty

5:43

getting getting dressed again and then

5:45

she last. Snow.

5:50

Other people have been in the

5:52

stands and over the past couple

5:54

of weeks has any more incriminating

5:56

evidence emerged. Again,

5:59

I think either. This is debatable.

6:01

I'm. Damaging

6:04

evidence is certainly. The

6:07

first witness was the National

6:09

Enquirer. Publisher: Ah,

6:12

that. a Packer who. Or.

6:14

No animosity trump whatsoever. Ah, I'm

6:17

but he was there. It's basically

6:19

sashayed the details to these hush

6:21

money payments touching tell stories did

6:23

you spend, catch and kill? Actually

6:26

it's basically in relation to the

6:28

to the to the National Enquirer

6:30

where they would agree to buy

6:33

certain stories on the understanding that

6:35

they would never be published and

6:37

therefore protect the the person to

6:39

whom the stories were potentially damaging

6:42

and you know it established us.

6:44

As if a Packer and on trump outta.

6:47

Had a relationship that they were. They

6:49

were friendly. The record deal on that

6:51

remained the case even after he won

6:54

or three one the White House and

6:56

Hope Hicks ah Trump's former Communications Director

6:58

was on the stands last week. Again,

7:00

she was someone with whom are trumpet

7:03

a really close relationship and was. Meant.

7:05

To see people are saying he he

7:07

he he completely trust as a relationship

7:10

that France. Had

7:13

broken die and they hadn't believed

7:15

spoken since. Twenty twenty to see

7:17

was there to. Ultimately, Talk

7:19

of by the movies in. The

7:23

Trump camp on in the White House

7:25

when the story broke or threatened to

7:27

break on the eve of the election.

7:29

Boss. says. Are needed help

7:32

his case but it's it's debatable as

7:34

say as to what extent cs she

7:36

damaged him you know. What's.

7:39

Since demeanor been I can court. I

7:41

think it's fluctuated between boredom and frustration

7:44

and anger. Ah, one of the things

7:46

about this case for nice Who should

7:48

say is that everything has been reported

7:50

second hand at the Out. It's not

7:52

on television and the states. it's not.

7:55

Dot. Difficult to get into the trial I

7:57

I get in there one day and the first

7:59

sweet. The actor and packers past money

8:01

by you're in an overflow. Course.

8:04

Aside the actual a courtroom see

8:06

a watching the evidence and a

8:09

three way video screen and one

8:11

camera is trains constantly on. Trump's

8:14

Table and eat. eat. You know, see,

8:16

watch him. Listening to the evidence and

8:18

a lot of the evidence is quite.

8:21

Or has been quite dry on an

8:23

you know, for for those parts He

8:25

just he's playing me board. I gather

8:27

our beliefs. There's been talk about him

8:29

been asleep. Yeah, he's a he's He's

8:31

contested that he. He says he just

8:33

simply closes his eyes on listens as he's

8:35

entitled to do. I personally find it

8:37

hard to believe he will. He was

8:39

asleep Thought was reported the first day

8:41

of the trial. And I

8:43

defined as extraordinary.e Words walk into

8:45

that courtroom and doze off within

8:48

two hours. At some it's tickets

8:50

be true. It's sort of plays

8:52

into just a complete polarization of

8:54

the coverage of both candidates and

8:57

this election race boss on Tuesday

8:59

one Stormy Daniels has been taken

9:01

through the V. More graphic details

9:03

of their encounter think he was

9:06

yeah it's V Quite angry at

9:08

one stage he was he was

9:10

heard to to mice to word.

9:13

Bullshit. To lead kind so

9:15

and they were cautions by by

9:17

the judge so he was. He

9:19

was annoyed by honey heard a

9:22

man I believe when the Hope

9:24

Hicks I testified he he he

9:26

was portrayed as you know look

9:28

and quite sort of concerned when

9:30

at one stage she she broke

9:33

them tears so is gone to

9:35

a thirty broad. Range. of

9:37

emotions but i think boredom

9:39

is is overwhelming a motion

9:41

and frustrations and as you

9:43

know he's repeatedly arm complain

9:45

the by the basis for

9:48

the trial. Very.

9:53

Very. Good

9:55

news is. Arms

9:59

The. The composition of

10:01

the jury as while to as

10:03

the com as afterwards. And

10:05

of course, that's resulted in gag orders.

10:07

He's had ten gag. Orders from the

10:10

judge he has or the thousand dollar

10:12

fine eats on. I think the George

10:14

realized that he could just keep pay

10:17

most on ties.of find perpetuity. So yeah

10:19

he was our warns recently that you

10:21

know he's in danger of being held

10:24

in contempt and the judge like our

10:26

to be threatened him with with jail

10:28

time that I could be in a

10:31

jail for a few hours for lunch

10:33

time period but nonetheless that would mean

10:35

ah the. These. Back

10:37

to go of a former president. Been

10:39

escorted to. Spend. Time Behind

10:42

Bars which is extraordinary. To summarize, He.

11:06

Is really pushing the envelope amount one is

11:08

as far as he com is it remains

11:10

to be seen as if if he'll be

11:12

able to add to surface when the prosecution

11:14

calls. Ultimately, The

11:16

the key witness know this which

11:18

is his former lawyer and as

11:21

so called sex or Michael Cohen

11:23

who was the individual who brokered

11:25

these has money payments on behalf

11:27

of Donald Trump. And

11:30

it's quite. He will have a lot to say. About

11:32

microphone outside the court that it's gonna

11:34

just really really test his ability to

11:37

stay quiet. Yeah I mean they will.

11:39

Absolutely tass is a bed early bernie

11:41

say a margin the his team. well

11:43

we'll we'll We'll call us on the

11:45

stay quiet because the thing about Cohen

11:48

is he he would acknowledge the south.

11:50

He he he bears a lot of

11:52

ah the Maastricht, Donald Trump arm. He.

11:55

Has perjured himself before Congress.

11:57

He served jail time so.

11:59

He. Is being presented to a

12:01

jury as as home on him.

12:04

He certainly is not indifferent to

12:06

to the fate of defendant in

12:08

this case and again it's gonna

12:10

come dine to, it's gonna confines

12:12

of what they believe. I think

12:14

I'm high. Wow The. Prosecution's.

12:17

And present them. On equally

12:19

hi Sara Lee dead it sounds managed

12:21

to to cross examine I'm and dispute

12:23

what what what he will sake of

12:26

because I will be I would damage

12:28

and Donald Trump request. Is

12:31

it too simplistic to say Trump wants

12:33

to go to jail? That it's it's

12:35

I'm a it's It suits him to

12:37

get that. Mugshots It suits him. You

12:39

know, either for contempt for easy save

12:41

for a couple of hours or. You

12:44

know of the charges and that that might

12:46

further his own agenda. You know he signed.

12:49

This is a Kangaroo Courts. They want to

12:51

get him. He'd win the election. It's all

12:53

ultimately the Democrats go and adults you know

12:55

it. is. it too easy. I haven't heard

12:58

that theory that he actually wants to go

13:00

that he would. you know he wants to

13:02

be Am. Imprisoned

13:04

seem to I'll be at the to do

13:07

You mean did you mean in terms of

13:09

act for a contender on a contempt of

13:11

court order? Bernie's in I don't know I

13:13

mean maybe if that happens he he he

13:16

he'd roll with us you know I'm I'm

13:18

not sure they actually wanted the hop and

13:20

I feel he just when you walk out

13:22

of a courtroom and com with their on

13:25

have microphones their of people showed a question

13:27

of during the show questions I don't think

13:29

it's as instance for them you know I

13:31

think he he he can I'm not speak

13:34

arm. I don't know.

13:36

He believes that Doc and I see happens is

13:38

that in a scenes with it he needs maybe

13:40

the and is and to take. It

13:44

is theoretically one that would be

13:46

damaging as well because you know

13:49

he will be. Look about the

13:51

possibility that potential voters would literally

13:53

just see the Mugs house. I'm

13:55

not really get the full details

13:58

behind us. Any

14:02

other how to Daniels testimony leaves

14:04

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14:34

Reacted. To the Stormy Daniels

14:36

testimony, dissuade Camino. A Salacious. Damaging

14:38

details? Surely yeah, but I'm not

14:41

sure this all goes back to.

14:43

Do you believe in the integrity

14:46

of the trial? So.

14:48

If you don't believe us on a lot

14:50

of his. You. Know hardcore base

14:53

to have said supposed to don't

14:55

than it doesn't really matter what

14:57

what is sad about him because

14:59

you believe it's all part of

15:01

a grand narrative to to drag

15:03

them dined on. Plus there's been

15:05

so many other damage and stories

15:07

abide by Donald Trump before that

15:09

his voters seem to be able

15:11

to block eyes And even when

15:13

you go back to the primaries

15:15

and January, remember speaking with people

15:17

who will fully can say that

15:19

they have reservations about elements of

15:21

his. Personality and a Bite is

15:23

no private behaviors but that their well

15:26

and to set those to one side

15:28

because the still feel he's a lot

15:30

better than the alternative. It's

15:32

if if he is ultimately find

15:35

guilty in this case arms. Is

15:37

an A A custodial sentences imposed

15:40

then maybe.could have loss and damage

15:42

made without be a bridge too

15:44

far for you know for voters

15:46

that might be wavering but that

15:49

that all remains to be seen.

15:52

That said, if he's a quite us, you know

15:54

with the other three. Trials.

15:57

Sort of on hold and definitely it's

15:59

so. Let me put them in

16:01

a much stronger case because he can.

16:04

He. Can possibly are you know that they

16:06

true. A rigged case as

16:08

he would have as adam. And.

16:11

They still couldn't pin him. And. Now

16:13

he's free to is free to campaign

16:16

properly. So he's to be

16:18

in court every day either. I think

16:20

you've got a pastel because he said

16:22

he wants to go to his sons

16:24

Sirens at graduation. But is he the

16:26

court? How long The is the court

16:28

case set to last? It

16:31

was it was originally slated.

16:34

To. Laugh maybe six seven weeks but

16:36

it would seem a me. it

16:38

makes include more quickly than not

16:40

simply because for a lot of

16:42

the witnesses that have been brought

16:45

up by the prosecution so far.

16:47

The. Defense: Really? Hasn't won

16:50

a to to to dwell on

16:52

them too much so mean the

16:54

cross examine nation of Hope Hicks

16:56

was very brief, arms relatively speaking,

16:58

quite quite quite gentle the same

17:00

attend a Packer so it depends

17:02

how quickly they get a ride

17:04

to introduce and Michael Cohen and

17:06

again how long that cross examination

17:08

takes so it could be part

17:10

of the week after. Next can

17:13

be the concluding could be the

17:15

couldn't recover. And when it

17:17

concludes if is he is found guilty

17:19

of this is could he be given

17:21

jail time and would we know that

17:23

soon. While. He could. He could

17:25

be given jail time. there are precedents,

17:28

arms am it's sort of a buck

17:30

crimes, arguments or or the Us to

17:32

hide. Likely he is to be given

17:34

jail time because it's the first the

17:36

fence. He could be sort of you

17:38

know let off on on probation as

17:40

well. But there's also the theory that

17:42

his constance are eyeing and and those

17:44

are paid a fine for for for

17:47

contempt of court could play against. Us,

17:51

you know. First gotta be

17:53

fine. Guilty arms I think.

17:57

Of was field of it. Read

18:00

the and more likely I. Would

18:06

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18:08

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