In The Ring is back!! After a very long hiatus, Oliver is joined by Kaitlyn, an arts coordinator, artist, and professor at Tufts University. They discuss the sacrifice that artists make for their goals, the artist voice, art in the Trump era, the difference between "good" and "bad" art, using art responsibly to promote social causes, non-political art and art as therapy, racial social justice issues, and much more.
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