Rob Hopkins is a climate activist, community organizer and, most recently, the author of "From What Is to What If: Unleashing the Power of Imagination to Create the Future We Want".

In this conversation, we talk about his own journey into thinking about imagination, the deficit of imagination in today's distracted and distracting culture and how we can work with each other in our communities to nurture and incite imaginative action.

Find out more about Rob's work by visiting his website: https://robhopkins.net