The Indy’s Elia Gran sits down with national security reporter Alex Kane. Alex’s piece in the March issue of the Indy describes what surveillance will look like in Trump’s America and what targeted groups, particularly members of the muslim community, are doing about it. Their conversation also touched on America’s drone wars abroad and the U.S. backed occupation of Palestine — subjects Alex’s reporting has also covered over the years.Later on in this podcast we’ll bring you an update on another story we’ve been following: immigration rights leader Ravi Ragbir’s struggle to remain in the United State with his wife and family.