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S3 // Ep14 // "Beyond the Realm of Dreams: A Sleep Antagonist's Tale..."

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S3 // Ep14 // "Beyond the Realm of Dreams: A Sleep Antagonist's Tale..."

S3 // Ep14 // "Beyond the Realm of Dreams: A Sleep Antagonist's Tale..."

S3 // Ep14 // "Beyond the Realm of Dreams: A Sleep Antagonist's Tale..."

S3 // Ep14 // "Beyond the Realm of Dreams: A Sleep Antagonist's Tale..."

Monday, 23rd October 2023
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0:00

Hello , welcome to Steven speak . On

0:02

this episode . I'm gonna be talking about sleep and

0:05

the need of it , but also the

0:08

innate hate of it that I have

0:10

. You could say it's a bit

0:12

FOMO , which I don't like to say that I don't know why I

0:14

said that . Don't . I don't say that . Take

0:16

that back you

0:22

. Welcome

0:28

to Steven speak . The podcast , unscripted

0:32

prattle , everything , nothing

0:34

. Welcome

0:45

to another episode of students peak

0:47

. Apologies that this one's a little bit late . If

0:51

you're listening to it after the fact and

0:53

you weren't waiting for it to come out , then you're not any different

0:55

. But you'll know is this came on a Monday ? I

0:57

don't know . At least things are not Sunday . So apologies

1:00

if you've been Awaiting

1:02

this episode with with

1:05

anticipation . You

1:07

fool Again

1:10

, excited about my podcast , I don't know . But

1:12

thank you . Thank you very much . Yeah

1:14

, I was away in London at the weekend , which isn't the

1:16

the theme of this podcast . If

1:18

there is a theme of any of my podcasts , I suppose

1:20

there is . Yeah

1:23

, I was way in London , so I was

1:25

planning to do it when I returned and

1:27

when I got back by time We'd sort

1:29

ourselves out and had something to eat

1:31

, etc . It was late and I was very

1:34

tired . Yeah

1:37

, it was quite a time , it was great two

1:39

days , which is very tiring and Decided

1:43

. Don't really like London that much . Other people

1:45

came across , a lot of rude people

1:47

, and that's

1:51

an episode for the day . I kind of covered

1:54

one my previous podcast about the

1:56

people in London being very , would

2:00

you say , like in it for themselves and

2:02

busy and you know , not waiting for a

2:04

tube train . That's like a minute away when one's really

2:06

full , yeah . But this weekend

2:08

it was just got to me a little bit anyway

2:11

, with

2:14

not having a lot of sleep because we say it somewhere

2:16

, we I kind of booked like kind of

2:18

the cheapest thing I could , so we literally just booked a room

2:20

with

2:23

a couple of beds in , and I

2:25

think I'm thinking about like sleep and the whole need for sleep

2:27

. But I've never really liked sleep

2:29

and it's

2:32

a necessity to me , necessity

2:34

to everyone . Obviously everyone has to sleep

2:36

. Apparently it actually kills you if you don't

2:38

sleep . If you actually try and stay awake , it

2:40

like actually your

2:44

body kind of shuts down and you can die and

2:47

I think it's like something . It's not even that long . Neither

2:49

it's like is it like five days

2:51

or six days . If you stay up like six days , like

2:53

you're at your death's door basically , and

2:56

it may be sure that actually , but

2:59

yeah , your body does loads of repairs and stuff

3:01

at night and it's a download of your brain

3:03

and lots of other things and you repair

3:05

and yeah , yeah , you

3:07

need your rest . You know your muscles work hard

3:09

all day . You know your heart

3:11

rate needs to kind of get lowered and

3:14

return to like a , you know , just just be

3:16

a lot lower than it is , just walking around

3:18

. I'm not a doctor , as you can tell

3:20

, so

3:23

, yeah , so , but when I was a kid , I was terrible

3:25

like my mom Would

3:27

, my dad obviously as well . He was that it

3:30

was a terrible time trying to get me to

3:33

go to bed . Now , it wasn't the

3:35

fact that I don't say

3:37

it's a fear of missing out , it

3:39

kind of was that I also

3:41

them

3:43

to be like going sleep . I think it's because I used to have really

3:45

vivid dreams and my

3:48

dreams were like so they are now as well . Actually

3:50

, I think we've covered a couple of vivid

3:53

dream situations that I've Explained

3:55

to you , and I think

3:57

when I was a kid I don't know it was like I Used

4:00

to get scared ace for really vivid nightmares , but

4:03

I probably was fair me , being being

4:06

scared of missing out on something , and I also didn't

4:08

need a lot sleep . I was a kid so I

4:10

didn't feel it was a necessity for me to have like a nap during

4:12

the day . I felt that was good enough and I was

4:14

kind of like lived on the thing

4:16

of I'll sleep when I feel like

4:18

I have to , which

4:21

happened quite a lot . It was like my body would shut

4:23

me down , like I put when you get a puppy , you know , when you have

4:25

a puppy and you play with them for a little bit

4:27

and they have no , no

4:29

desire to go sleep , but they just have to , like they

4:31

have to , just , they just fall wherever

4:33

they are and they just go sleep . I

4:36

was kind of like that as a child up to

4:38

quite an old age Say old

4:40

age and I would I would say probably like eight

4:42

or nine like I would have naps and not

4:44

realize I'd fell asleep or

4:47

just do something that was really relaxing and

4:49

like semi-sleep , you know , put a film on the background . You

4:51

only do that weird like it's

4:55

like a dream state . You kind of vaguely

4:57

know what's going on in the room . So if you're watching

4:59

something , you kind of following in your brain but you're also

5:02

on that warm

5:04

, cozy Like

5:07

trip to to sleep . I

5:11

used to do that quite a lot as a kid and then now that

5:13

that seemed to give me enough energy , that

5:15

like three , four hours a night would do me

5:17

like and I'm not even joking like

5:19

I would fight and fight and fight and fight

5:21

sleep . My mum , dad probably

5:24

sent me to bed when I was younger , like a toddler age

5:26

, to like . I'd probably

5:28

go bed about seven , eight o'clock at night and

5:33

If I was asleep before midnight

5:35

those that

5:38

was a great thing and

5:40

I didn't necessarily like come downstairs . A lot

5:43

died nights when I would do that . I would come

5:45

down and creep down and try and like

5:47

sneak back to the living room or just sitting when

5:50

our stairs was in the house where I Mainly

5:53

growth . I was quite young when we in my

5:55

first house but we moved when I was about

5:57

three or four and I

5:59

used to keep onto the stairs and Watch

6:03

TV through the banister if the living room doors

6:05

open and many a night Like

6:07

I'd fell asleep on the stairs . I think my mum

6:09

dad quite scared that I was like gonna fall asleep

6:12

and then roll downstairs and die and

6:14

Even the problem . That

6:17

was actually that much that these were kids

6:19

gate , like a child gate across the

6:21

top of the Landing

6:23

stopped me coming down the stairs . But

6:26

I was with an injured as a kid and

6:29

in our first house I used

6:31

to climb out of bed and

6:33

then climb over the child's gate and , like , make

6:36

my way along the banister rail and drop down into the

6:38

stairs . Don't recall doing this . I

6:41

can't remember climbing over it once in in the house we

6:43

moved here when I was a bit older . Yeah

6:47

, but you

6:49

know what TV you've got on which TV , so I buy

6:51

it . I think it was more the comfort of not

6:53

really missing out , but the

6:55

comfort of being near someone . Maybe

6:57

that's what it was actually . Have I thinking of it ? I think it was

6:59

probably more that the comfort of , you

7:02

know , not being

7:04

on my own . Maybe I was

7:06

just really needy as a child . But

7:08

yeah , I just , I just recall like

7:11

Actually having a favorite going bad

7:13

, like just not wanting to go to bed , not wanting

7:15

to be out of that , like

7:17

, like living

7:19

room environment and

7:23

I know so it's the older I got as well , my brother's like

7:25

five years old at me , so that kind of

7:27

like added to it because I also didn't want to

7:29

. I

7:33

also didn't want him doing

7:35

stuff that I wasn't doing and also wanted to try and be older as

7:37

well . So if he was a boy , I wanted to be up . Yeah

7:40

, complex , complex , but

7:42

basically I hated sleep and I

7:45

, I I actually remember thinking to

7:47

myself as a child why

7:49

do we sleep ? This is pointless , we go bad , we

7:51

do nothing like we , I'm not getting anything

7:53

done , I'm not coloring in , I'm

7:55

not in the garden , I'm not playing and not watching

7:58

my films . You know , I , genuinely

8:00

I was . I was just like this is like

8:02

wasted time . God

8:06

, if only I could have carried that motivation through in that thought

8:08

process through , because

8:11

if you've ever , if you've read Arnold Schwarzenegger's

8:13

, arnold Schwarzenegger's Autobiography

8:16

his in part of that it basically says

8:19

that he kind of felt the same like sleep

8:21

was wasted . So when you're awake , you've got me the most of

8:23

it . Um , if

8:25

I keep taking that like child

8:27

kind of like thought process and put it into my adulthood

8:29

, like I'd have probably achieved so much more in my

8:31

life at 40 . It's

8:34

kind of depressing , but that's

8:36

that's how I felt . Like going bed

8:38

was a For

8:40

me , like a , like a big event

8:42

. My

8:46

brother didn't help . He's to like kind of induce

8:48

nightmares . And I remember

8:50

and he said he didn't do

8:52

this . But I'm pretty sure he did . But you know

8:54

, maybe he didn't . But I was really terrified of

8:56

the gremlins when I have said this before , I was really self-right

8:58

gremlins when I was a kid , love

9:01

it now I don't know why . I think I just saw a

9:03

clip of it when I was really too young to have

9:05

seen it and it just terrified me . Didn't

9:08

even know it was a comedy , I just thought they were evil

9:10

little bastards and they'd murdi in your bed

9:12

and my brother had like a little

9:14

Stripe figure and

9:17

I used to play with it . Weirdly enough , I

9:19

was also terrified of it . It

9:22

was like a co-op mechanism . I was trying to like desensitize

9:24

myself to it and

9:27

I remember going bed all night and he was , it was in my bed

9:29

and I was and I said to him like how did

9:31

it get there ? And he was like , oh , I don't know , it's obviously crawled

9:33

into your bed . So now I was thinking it was a

9:35

lie . Yeah , it was not good times . I

9:38

think he said that the real Gremlin

9:41

have put in me bed as well or something . Maybe I can't remember

9:43

. I remember being absolutely terrified and

9:45

I was convinced this little toy or a

9:47

gremlin was gonna be bad . So for

9:49

a while that stopped me going to bed . And

9:53

Aliens stopped me going to bed . Once , like

9:55

that , you know , like the grays with the big eyes

9:57

, I'd watched a film with my

9:59

brother Probably shouldn't have watched

10:01

called communion , and then that freaked me

10:03

out . We used to watch UFO programs all the time

10:05

and the X-Files and stuff . When I got a bit older but

10:07

I was probably eight or nine we

10:10

watch this film and I was . I was literally every

10:12

time like a light came on outside , I was convinced

10:15

that it was a tractor beam and the aliens

10:17

were coming for me and yeah

10:20

, I just , I just didn't like sleep

10:22

, one because I hated it , because it was like

10:24

a waste of time , and two because I was scared of having nightmares

10:26

and , yeah

10:29

, you're alone , like I was quite lucky when I was a kid because

10:31

I had my own bedroom and

10:34

I had the biggest room and I don't know how

10:36

that came about . Actually , when we moved

10:39

house when I was about three or four

10:41

, I actually had like the medium

10:43

sized room . So I remember I had the biggest room , I had

10:45

the medium one . Maybe I had like the box room and

10:50

maybe I really used to play in

10:52

my room that was kind of like the playroom

10:54

as well as my room , and

10:57

then I was

10:59

always jealous of what he had . So

11:01

I begged and begged , and begged and begged my mum

11:04

just to move room so I could have the

11:06

small room . And

11:08

she was like , are you sure

11:10

You've got the bigger room ? But you know , as a

11:12

kid you don't think logically and

11:14

I kind of like small spaces . Anyway , I like

11:16

being cosy , having my stuff around

11:18

me . If you could see this room you would be like

11:20

, oh , I can see that . So

11:23

I like kind of to be enclosed . I suppose

11:25

it's kind of like a safety thing . You

11:27

feel secure . So I kind of enjoyed

11:29

when I swapped rooms , to be honest , until I got to

11:32

a certain age when I was like , why did you

11:34

make this stupid decision ? So as soon as he went

11:36

to university , straight back in that room . I

11:39

have no idea where this was going , yeah

11:43

, but we swapped rooms . I never felt comfortable

11:45

in that other room . To be honest , I never felt as

11:47

safe in the other room . But he

11:49

used to wind me up all the time

11:51

about things being in my bed or aliens

11:54

, and so that came from it . But

11:57

yeah , I just don't really like sleep now

11:59

. If I'm honest with you , it's a thing

12:01

I am more tired now . I'm getting old , you

12:04

work and you have to do housework , so

12:07

you kind of do need sleep when you're an adult Because

12:10

of all the things you do in the day . It's

12:12

not just for physical activity

12:14

especially for me at the moment , like my work is not

12:16

very physical , it's just mentally draining

12:18

. So yeah

12:20

, you kind of do need to sleep and I do like

12:23

going to bed . Now I do . I'm like , oh

12:25

yes , I can go and get some sleep , but

12:29

it's still in the back of my

12:31

head . That it's . I

12:33

do like to get the minimum amount possible and

12:36

I like to be out and do and stuff , especially if

12:38

I'm somewhere . Like we went London on the weekend . So

12:40

if I'm away my holidays or

12:42

I probably spend less time in bed on holidays than I

12:44

do when I'm at home , probably

12:47

Because I'm

12:50

away and I'm at my normal environment and I want to do

12:52

things . So at the weekend

12:54

when we were away , I was up at

12:58

like 7 o'clock most mornings . We did have some

13:00

noisy neighbors in

13:02

the other rooms , but I

13:04

was up at 7 and I would literally have

13:06

just got up and gone out , but

13:09

my mate and my wife basically slept till about

13:11

half 8 . So I was literally on my phone

13:13

for an hour and a half just scrolling as

13:15

you do nowadays . But

13:18

if I'd have been on my own I would have literally

13:20

just been . I'd have woke up and been out

13:22

of the door and just wondered . It

13:24

wouldn't have bothered me and I'd have

13:26

gone to bed as late as I

13:28

possibly could , because I

13:31

still can get away with about 6 hours sleep

13:33

and be okay . But

13:36

when I was a kid like , yeah , it's

13:38

going back to this fat Jesus , you

13:41

can tell I'm a bit tired because my brain's worse

13:43

than usual . Sorry , okay

13:47

, cliff Notes . So far I don't like sleep . Even

13:51

when I was a child I could have been in the fear

13:53

of missing out . I could have been because I

13:55

had nightmares . I could have been because I had some old

13:58

rooms , I don't know . Yeah

14:01

, when I was a kid , literally I

14:03

used to . I

14:05

have three or four hours a night . If

14:07

I had any more than that , it was a real bonus

14:09

for my mom and dad and

14:12

looking back , I don't think it was every night , but most nights

14:14

it was a struggle for me to go to bed and they had to

14:17

really convince me to go to bed , to stay

14:19

there at least anyway , and they used to just say

14:21

lying bed awake , and they didn't mind me lying in

14:23

bed as long as I wasn't getting up

14:25

and trying to come down . I

14:27

think their view was , if I lay in bed I

14:30

would eventually go to sleep because nature

14:33

kicks in it's nighttime . You know , we're not

14:35

night creatures , are we . We're

14:37

not . Nocturnal is the word I was looking for

14:39

. So eventually my

14:42

natural brain would be

14:44

like oh , you're in bed , so you're lying down , you're

14:46

comfortable , and then I would just fall asleep . Didn't

14:50

really happen for me . I used to just lie

14:52

there and think about stuff . I'd lie there singing , just

14:55

use my imagination , like making things up

14:57

, talking to myself , talking to my tatties , doing

15:00

like I used to sit on my bed . I'd

15:02

sit on my bed playing with my bears and

15:05

this dog toy . I'd lost quite a

15:07

lot of dogs and bears and I used to just like sit

15:09

down and just chat to them

15:11

and then that

15:13

would lead on to me trying to get all the toys out and I'd normally

15:15

get told off of that because I'm not the

15:18

most quiet person . I get in my

15:20

own head and then I just don't

15:22

really . I

15:24

think I try to be as like accommodating

15:26

as other people , but if I'm in the zone I

15:28

don't really know my own noise

15:31

. The kitchen is probably

15:33

the best example of that . If I can get something out of the kitchen

15:35

, I can just slam cupboards and stuff

15:37

. Other times I'm super like aware

15:40

of that and I'll just be like closing the most

15:42

gentle that you can close . And I was like that as a kid

15:44

, so I'd get told off , I'd

15:47

read a lot in bed and that used to send

15:49

me to sleep . We should try that now . But

15:52

yeah , three or four hours you'd do me . But

15:55

that meant that , as I've said

15:57

, it was normally about midnight when I actually finally

15:59

got to sleep . So that's normally when my parents would come to bed , like 11

16:02

, 12 o'clock at night . So by the time I'd

16:04

actually drifted off . I'd

16:06

get three or four hours sleep . I was awake at four in the morning

16:08

, so I

16:10

would either go and call into mom and dad's bed and

16:12

they'd let me at that point normally like sleep them

16:14

a little bit . Depend

16:17

on my dad , really , I think , what he was working and

16:20

whether he was on night's or not , and

16:23

sometimes they wouldn't let me get into bed , but I was like a ninja

16:25

. I could literally go into that room and creep

16:27

into their bed and crawl up from

16:29

the foot of the bed and

16:32

crawl up underneath the covers and

16:34

fall asleep . Sometimes I'd just fall asleep

16:37

in the bottom of the bed like a dog . I

16:40

always thought the dog was my spirit animal . Yeah

16:43

, so I used to do that , but when I got a little

16:45

old , because I used to wake up hungry

16:47

, because I used to love breakfast . So I've

16:49

always been the sort of person to wake up , eat . And

16:52

when I was a toddler I was skinny , I was super

16:54

skinny . It was like the only meal I ate . So

16:58

dad used to . They got me a TV

17:00

for my bedroom and this was when I was in the bigger room and

17:03

they kind of agreed that I could get up and

17:06

they'd set some breakfast stuff out downstairs . So

17:08

all I had to do was put some milk on some corn

17:10

flakes or whatever and I could bring it back upstairs and just watch

17:12

TV for a couple of hours and

17:15

eat my breakfast , and that's what I used to do , so

17:17

from probably like the age of six

17:20

maybe , I

17:22

used to prepare my own breakfast and little drink

17:24

and bring it upstairs and just go

17:26

just sit in my room , and sometimes I'd fall

17:28

back asleep again as well . So it was kind of a win-win for

17:30

mom and dad . I'd fed myself and

17:32

I was maybe possibly getting a little bit of extra

17:35

sleep , and it was a win

17:37

for me because I felt like I was older

17:39

, because I was getting my own breakfast and I

17:41

wasn't having to lie in bed doing nothing . So

17:44

I would get my toys out and play , as long as it was quiet

17:46

stuff , like again , no

17:48

real sense of my own volume sometimes

17:50

, but

17:52

yeah , that's what I used to do . And

17:55

, um , I

17:57

used to hate falling asleep in the car as well . Oh my god , if

18:00

I was going anywhere , traveling back in the car

18:02

, like If

18:07

I Was enjoying the journey

18:09

, like it's a thing as a kid , you don't , you

18:13

don't always know when you're gonna fall asleep . As a kid it's very

18:15

, very bizarre . Like as an adult , you purposely

18:17

go to sleep , don't you ? You like think I'm

18:19

going to have a nap or I'm gonna go to bed , but

18:21

as a kid you just fall asleep . And if we were

18:24

coming back from it . This is normally where I would . I

18:26

would kind of get upset , I would get a bit gnarly

18:28

if I was aware , and

18:32

sometimes a throw paddy . But

18:35

if we were just woke him back and I fell asleep during

18:37

the journey home and woke up at home , oh my god

18:39

, I hate it , because that was Definitely

18:42

fair of me to now . It was like I missed the journey home

18:44

. I like to see , you know , just

18:46

see the places we were going through and Ask

18:50

questions about stuff and see the motorway

18:52

journey or see the countryside , etc . Even

18:55

if it was dark , even if you know it was pitch

18:57

black . I used to like watching my

18:59

dad drive . Weirdly enough why

19:03

that was , I don't know why that was . Maybe

19:06

I just aspire to drive one day . And

19:09

, yeah , I really hate that and I Remember

19:11

what women would have managed to carry me upstairs

19:13

once and put me into bed . And then I woke up in

19:15

the middle of night and I was like , oh my god , I'm in bed . How the hell

19:17

did I get here ? And I was really upset that

19:20

I'd even missed like

19:22

saying goodnight to mom and dad . Basically

19:24

, what I'm saying is I was a little , I was a little shit

19:27

, I didn't like to sleep and I

19:29

was very needy . I think is the summary

19:31

of this podcast , which

19:34

makes me sad because I thought I was quite she , quite

19:36

a sweet , non-pestering

19:41

little little . That

19:44

was the case , I think pretty much mom and dad me

19:46

probably would actually completely disagree with that , so

19:48

maybe I can't get away with saying

19:50

that , well

19:53

, that was a , that was a random Journey

19:56

, wasn't it of words ? Thank

19:58

you very much for listening . If

20:01

you've got to this point , well done . If

20:04

you're still awake , well done . Yeah

20:07

, thanks for listening , and I've been

20:09

a bit rubbish with the whole social media and Websites

20:12

over the moment . I'm trying to set some stuff up

20:15

in the background . I'm

20:17

really slow at doing stuff . Sometimes . I have to

20:19

be in the right mindset , and I

20:21

love doing this podcast . It's

20:24

probably one of the things I've stuck at the longest for

20:26

the for the longest time as well , so

20:29

that goes to say something . So

20:31

I'm really appreciate Any

20:33

regular listeners . If you are

20:35

a regular listener and you like what I do , please

20:38

reach out . It's there's something with this . I

20:40

don't . I can't see anything . I don't know what people

20:42

are thinking . I don't get a lot

20:44

of feedback apart

20:46

from the downloads and stuff . So

20:48

it would be nice just to know , like , what people

20:50

are thinking about the podcast

20:52

, though Just just reach out and you

20:55

can contact me via the website if you're interested in being

20:57

a guest . You've got something interesting to say . You

20:59

need like to have a chat ? Yeah

21:01

, but until until the next episode

21:04

, which I Generally

21:06

don't know what it's going to be about . And

21:08

yeah , just Just

21:11

chatter away , like I do , just take the opportunity

21:13

to listen as well . That's that is important

21:15

. I need to . I need to learn that lesson . I

21:18

go in a roll and and I

21:20

need to shut my mouth . As a

21:22

wise man once said , you have one mouth and two ears

21:24

for a reason . Nice

21:27

words to live by . Okay , I'm gonna

21:29

shut up now because I'm annoying myself . Thank

21:32

you very much for listening . Check out the website . Updates

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coincide . I'm doing social

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would like to be super generous and subscribe

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and Pay me a little bit of money

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to support what I do , I would

21:45

be eternally grateful and the links in the description

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for that too . So take care of yourselves

21:50

and I will speak to you all soon . You've

21:54

been listening to you , steven speak the podcast

21:56

. Thanks for listening to my unscripted

21:58

prattle on everything and nothing . Visit

22:02

Steven speak comm for updates , information

22:04

and my blog . You can follow

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more updates on social media and Steven speak

22:09

PC . Thanks very much and

22:11

I'll speak to you soon .

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