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This is the Inner Rebel podcast

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. Welcome

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everyone to Inner Rebel . I am Melissa

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Bakne and I'm here with a very special guest

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for a mini episode on All

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Things Chat GPT . This

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is my dear friend Rachel Melinda

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. Welcome , rachel .

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Thank you . I'm so pumped to be here

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and chatting with you and just what we're dreaming up

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here . This is kind of cool because I know

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you've invited me on your podcast , but I just want

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to ask you everything and share what I've

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had the pleasure of witnessing in

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you of how you use chat GPT

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to simplify your whole

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entire life .

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Yeah , yeah , thank you . Rachel

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and I have been in a sacred business

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mastermind together for most of this year

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. We've had an inside look at what

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each other are doing and this

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is a big tool that I used

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throughout the program to create what I was

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working on in the program , so you've had a unique

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view of how this has played out

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. We want to acknowledge some

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of the struggles that we see

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in our own lives , as well as the entrepreneur

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and professional woman that we work with around

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overwhelm , around getting stuck

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with not feeling like you are

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creative or feeling like you're

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working in a silo . Especially if you're a solopreneur

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, you can feel really lonely . Bigger than just

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this tool that we're going to talk about today , these

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are the things that we care a lot about as

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women and as coaches , and

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things that we're deeply committed to supporting

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people all around . We're going to give you some practical

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tips around using chat , gpt , as well as

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your own body and your own mind and

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navigating these things . So we're very excited . We're

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teaching a workshop in a couple of weeks , so you're going

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to get a lot more information on this

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. I'm just going to give you a little

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bit of a taste around what

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is possible here I'm curious , as you've

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been navigating your entrepreneurial journey as

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well as supporting other people

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around this in your business and your membership

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. What are the most common challenges that

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you see people face or that you faced

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personally ?

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Yeah , I think overwhelm is definitely up there , I

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think , just as being

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a solopreneur , the loneliness , and

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that's why I'm just always so passionate about

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getting women in community together

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, because when you do get into community , you see that

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you're not alone and it's seeing

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that and releasing the judgment that

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you had of yourself that actually

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boosts your energy all over again . If you were just able

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to see that I have a program called the Well . It's

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a community and coaching platform to support the mental

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wellness of entrepreneurs . The women

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in there are incredible . We have such an amazing community

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. Just one woman posting

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saying I'm struggling with this , or only

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one person showed up for my masterclass , and other

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people being like , oh my God same , I'm not a

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loser . Just releasing that , because

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the opposite is that we end

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up going into this spiral of being

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like I'm a piece of crap and making all these judgments

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about ourself when really we

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don't even have to go down that path . If we don't

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, then we get to stay in this high vibration

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and that affects how

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we look at things , that affects how we continue to carry

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on and that keeps the momentum going . I

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think that alone helps to

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combat that feeling of loneliness and

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, I think , being on

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your own as you're building a team and having

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that trust in yourself , creative ideas

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. I've been in coaching programs and masterminds

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for the past couple of years and I truly don't know what I

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would do without it , because just having

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a business ally , someone to bounce

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ideas off of , is so

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important when you're just like in your head

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and you want to ask someone about what do you think of this

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pricing ? What do you think of this offer ? Does this land

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with you ? There's many challenges

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that entrepreneurs face , but I think those are at

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the top .

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Yeah , I was present to a moment that you and I had

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when we were in Mexico

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together on our retreat and everyone

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was sharing their visions for their business or their lives

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. Oh , I think that's what you're going to say yeah

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, and I'm sitting there at the table judging

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my vision and being like I don't belong here

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. I can't believe I said that there's

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so much better than me and my mind is spinning . I just

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wanted to leave the table and go , and

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as soon as we left the dinner

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you're like . you turn to me

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and you ask me if

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I was judging myself the way you were judging yourself

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around your end we had this beautiful mind .

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I was like yes .

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I felt like I needed to leave and I was so grateful that you said

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it out loud because I could

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have just said in that story of unworthiness

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, and meanwhile you were thinking it

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, and then we asked the whole cab and everyone

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was thinking it in their own unique way of the entire

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group and we're like , oh okay , well , this is totally normal

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.

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Which is the benefit of being in community with people

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who are doing big things . You want to

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be in a room with people who might trigger you

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and might make you feel small . They're not . It's

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not them making you feel small , it's your own . It's your own stuff

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that you're bringing into it . But for sure we

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want to look at that and allow it to pull

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us into our expansion , not squash

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us back into this like small

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town Susie archetype that we talk about

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. There is a lot of stuff that happens and comes up when

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we are in community , especially with women . There's

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a lot of conditioning there and sister wounds . But if

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you can just say open and present

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and aware of it and not actually give

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into it . There's so much room for

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that growth and that expansion there .

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Yeah , that's pure magic , absolutely yeah

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.

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I'm going to throw a question at you because I want to

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put the spotlight on you . So , going back

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to our work together over the past several months , in our

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container it became like a running joke that you're the

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chat GPT queen . We would be in our container

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and spinning on things and be like what

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would be good for this person here and giving advice

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, and then you put the whole thing in chat GPT

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and it comes up with this brilliant answer . We would

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just laugh about it . But I want you to go

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into detail with what you did here , like the whole branding

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and messaging , and you basically turned

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several plus hours

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of work into like 30

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minutes to an hour minutes yeah

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. Yeah , do you want to talk about how you did

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that ?

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Yes . So I didn't set out to

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be the chat GPT queen , it's

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just so at my core . I love efficiency

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and I'm obsessed

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with it in my entire life , and so I started

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to play around with chat GPT several

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months ago and I

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realized how efficient

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it was as a tool , and

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so the more that I started to

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recognize , the more I kept playing around

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with it and being like well , what else can this thing do and

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how else could I use this to really

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facilitate growing this business

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? So I have been building

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a membership based community that will be local and

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virtual for conscious , professional

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women , and I have a very , very

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big vision for this thing , and

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I have never been the CEO of a multimillion

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dollar company . So I don't

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know what I'm doing , even though

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I do know how to figure it out

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, and I think so

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often people get stopped by the how I'm sure

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you see this a lot in your coaching too is

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that you have this huge vision and the

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how is a breakdown point . Instead

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of getting stopped by that , that

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how . I literally would turn to chat GPT

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and be like okay , I need a name for this

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thing , start there

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, and I would brainstorm with

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one of the other women that supported me in the business

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and we put down all the words of how

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we want it to feel and name ideas

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that we had , and we just created this whole Google

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doc about it . And then I put it into chat GPT

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and I said help us , come up with a name for this

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company . Here are all the things that we wanted

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to feel , how we want it to look , some other ideas

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, and the first thing it's been out was Luma Nova

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, and it broke down what

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each word meant

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and when it broke down what Nova

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meant about being so bright

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, you basically burst into other stars . It

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meant an increase of consciousness

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, transformation . It was the

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perfect name and so in a moment I

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got the name for the business and

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then from there it's been everything from the vision

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, the mission , the brand values , pages

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, emails , launch

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strategies , event ideas

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. I mean you name it . I've used chat

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GPT to get the creative

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juices flowing and , honestly , what

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I have accomplished in two

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months could have taken

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me six months to a year at

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minimum , and

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like tens of thousands of dollars also

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, and I used a free tool to support me in it

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.

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I love what you said there about the how , because that

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is such a sticky point for people

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, where they do get stuck and that's what stops the momentum

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. And it's unfortunate because

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the how actually isn't up

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to us . In the mindset world we talk about

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, you are responsible for the what and claiming the what

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and getting into energetic alignment of it . How

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it comes to fruition is not up to you

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. That's where we let that mystery school of life

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and the magic come into play . So it's

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kind of like a double edged sword , because you're keeping yourself

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from experiencing the magic and you're not doing anything

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. So at the very least , chat

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GPT keeps the momentum going

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. It's our paradigms that are also going to keep

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us stuck . And you can just stay

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in the momentum of it and keep going

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. Consistency is

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the secret sauce of success .

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Yep , absolutely .

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Consistency is also the most challenging thing , or can be

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because of all the blocks that stand in the

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way . So I love how you've used this

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tool to keep the momentum

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going and to keep you inspired

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. I think that was my blocker on chat GPT

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is that . I was like , oh , it takes the heart

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out of things , like it's just robotic and I

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don't want to just put computer generated

9:23

things on a page . So

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how do you use that to inspire

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you and still continue to add your own flavor to

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it ?

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Yeah . So I think what takes the longest

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is the first , second

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, third iteration of something , and

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you can sit and stare at a blank page hoping

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that this idea will come to you , and

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what I like to do is , you

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know , I just take whatever I've got . So if I

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have been sitting there brainstorming about the

9:50

vision for Nova , for example , and

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I'm like I need a vision statement , but this

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feels really overwhelming to me of how

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to make it sound perfect , right

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, we can get stuck in perfectionism as well . So

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I just will copy what I've done , put it in

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there and be like help me cultivate a vision statement

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for this . And then I read it and I'm

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like , okay , well , I literally

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just type in what my brain thinks Like

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that sounds really cheesy . Can

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you make it sound like

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a little bit of humor and sarcasm

10:18

and have it have more of a

10:20

bold , approachable feel to it ? And

10:23

then it'll come back with a tone . And

10:26

then I'm like , okay , what I talk

10:28

like that is that who I am . Then

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I would take that and maybe tweak

10:33

it , move some things around , insert my

10:35

voice into it , and then I

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would stare at a piece of paper for trying

10:40

to figure it out or really judging

10:42

myself or critiquing myself to try to get it right

10:44

. It takes that time and

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cuts it into like five minutes .

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So that's how I use it .

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I work a lot with tone and

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then going back in and

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Shifting things around , it sound like

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I would actually speak like a real human being .

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Yeah , so it is truly like you have a free

11:02

team member right , just someone to bounce ideas

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off of . Like , okay , like , how could we make this sound

11:06

more , more juicy and zesty

11:09

? I think that's one thing that I Didn't

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really know before . I saw how you started using

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chat GBT . It would spit something out and

11:16

I'd be like this sounds boring , but I didn't know how to say

11:18

make it less boring or make it more exciting

11:20

. You can really use it to To

11:23

to get it closer to what you want , and sometimes you

11:25

just need that Beginning

11:27

idea . You need to stay in that solution

11:30

oriented energy to

11:32

Reinspire right , because it's when

11:34

you go , oh , that's not gonna work or I

11:36

don't have any ideas , that you're now no longer available

11:38

for ideas and creativity .

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Yeah , it gives you so much space and

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Creativity needs space

11:44

in order to thrive , and

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so I am

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a huge proponent of cultivating

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spaciousness in my life and

11:53

business and growing my business

11:55

in a very sustainable way . I am not

11:57

trying to overwork myself , I'm

11:59

not trying to burn out , doing my

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sole project , and I have

12:04

used this to facilitate

12:07

those values and and I

12:10

am able to spend more time with my son during

12:12

the summer . So if I can come in in the morning

12:14

and be like help me write the sales page

12:16

and the first three emails of this nurture

12:18

sequence , and I can take 30 minutes to do something that would have

12:20

taken me probably all day to get it Right

12:23

and then go play with my son or go to

12:25

the pool or go for a hike , it's helping

12:28

me maintain a really balanced

12:30

lifestyle , which is something that's so

12:33

important to me and , I think , something that every

12:36

single ambitious woman struggles with

12:38

. Whether You're in corporate or you're running

12:40

your own business or you've got a side project that

12:42

you're trying to get out of corporate and transition

12:44

into , those are the main things

12:46

that we struggle with . So I'm like , why wouldn't I

12:48

use this it's

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giving me ?

12:51

life . Yeah and , and I think you've

12:54

also used it to plan your kids birthday

12:56

party . Haven't you done that like ? Give me theme

12:58

ideas for a Jack's

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. I don't know how old Jack is , but he's like

13:02

birthday party ideas , oh Everything

13:05

.

13:05

My friend planned her Disney's trip with it . I

13:07

have , actually , my girlfriends want to go on

13:10

a trip together and we haven't gone in 10 years . And I was

13:12

like , okay , here's who

13:14

we are , here's what we're looking for

13:16

. Can you give me some

13:18

great ideas of where we can go ? I just

13:20

put in really specific thing and I'm like okay , girls

13:23

chat , gpt thinks we need to go to Roa tan

13:25

, was

13:28

that ? See , please , roa tan and la

13:30

fortuna , costa Rica . So

13:33

cool , we're doing a three-week trip over

13:35

Christmas . And so the other day I was

13:37

just in there trying to figure out

13:40

where we should go in the world , and I've been doing a lot

13:42

of organic research . But I was like what

13:44

if I took all the research that I've been

13:46

doing through Google and put it in

13:48

here ? And it helped me plan a

13:50

three-week trip to the Canary Islands . I

13:53

was like this is the kind of hotel we like to stay at

13:55

, this is how we want to feel , this is what our family is like

13:57

, and it was like , boom , here's a hotel you should Wow

13:59

.

13:59

I was like , okay , I didn't realize it would do

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that . Yeah , so you can plan

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your life if you move to Spain

14:06

. We love whoa yeah

14:08

, but it helps you with everything , Okay

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is there any part of you that feels like chat

14:12

GPT takes the magic out of things ? I think

14:15

that's my block , but I'm also for it . We're doing

14:17

this master class together and why I want to learn from you and

14:19

I want all of us to learn as well . But I really

14:21

want to get into songwriting as well on the side . But

14:23

my my block is melodies . Like I

14:25

start thinking of a melody and then all of a sudden I'm singing

14:27

a Taylor Swift song . I'm like , how did we think of original

14:30

melodies ?

14:30

And so I was gonna go to chat , gpt or or

14:33

something .

14:34

Get an AI generated melody , because

14:36

once I have a melody I can flow . But

14:38

then there's part of me where I'm like , oh , it's not original anymore

14:40

, because I just got it from AI .

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Mmm I .

14:45

Yeah , I see that and it's I

14:48

mean when we talk about shifting your mindset around

14:50

it . I think it helps me generate

14:53

more magic in my life and

14:56

it helps me do the things that I love

14:58

the most . So , if the melody piece is the

15:01

stuck piece and it's the hardest part for you

15:03

, but once I get this thing , then

15:05

all of this other stuff just flows out of my

15:07

body and so it gives

15:09

you access to your magic faster , because

15:12

you're moving through the stuckness faster

15:14

and maybe you don't even use that melody , but it's

15:17

just the thing to get your brain to start

15:19

thinking outside of Taylor Swift so

15:21

that you can come up with your own , coming up with job

15:23

descriptions and Very

15:26

detailed launch strategies . Those are things I do

15:28

enjoy , but it's not where I want

15:30

to spend my time , and

15:33

so if I can utilize

15:35

a tool to do

15:38

the pieces of my life in business that

15:40

Take up a lot of time , like

15:42

maybe the 80-20 rule , they might take up 80%

15:44

of my time but bring me 20% of my joy

15:47

. Or I want to be sending

15:49

80% of my time doing the things that I love by

15:52

having efficiency in the things

15:54

that I don't want to be doing . Honestly , I'd

15:56

rather outsource them , and it would cost me

15:58

Thousands and thousands of dollars

16:00

to outsource the work that I have done . So

16:03

it gets me to . I can

16:05

build this community . I can put the women

16:07

in the room so much faster

16:09

because I Haven't sat around

16:11

letting myself be stuck about something

16:13

. I'm like , okay , I need a job description . I don't have

16:15

any idea what jobs I need

16:18

to launch a membership community . So I'm like , okay

16:20

, chat , gpt . Here's everything

16:22

that I know about this community . What are the first three

16:24

hires that I should make Great

16:27

? Can you give me job descriptions for them

16:29

? That's wonderful .

16:30

What should ?

16:30

they be doing . And

16:36

then , literally so , my director of operations

16:38

. She gave me her proposed job description

16:41

. I put it in there and I was like here's what I

16:43

think . And then I presented it to her and

16:45

we went through line by line and she's like this doesn't really

16:47

apply to me , but this section

16:49

is really important to me and I'm like cool

16:51

, I mean , I just made all this up as

16:53

you do as an entrepreneur . So why don't we give this to

16:55

somebody else who is this for their zone of genius

16:57

? But even that would have taken me so long

16:59

. But instead I get to be with her and be in

17:01

conversation with her and get into community

17:04

and build what I love . So I'm

17:06

curious if that shifts anything for you , just

17:08

hearing that .

17:10

Yeah , and look , I can attest to this because

17:12

so when Melissa and I were planning up this

17:14

masterclass , we divided and conquer . Okay

17:16

, I'm gonna put up the sales page , you're gonna , you're

17:18

gonna do the copy for it . And Melissa

17:20

got our tasks done . I could see on a Santa

17:22

, they're just like tick , tick , tick like

17:25

you did it all in like half an hour to an hour

17:27

max . We said , actually , so this is kind

17:29

of cool . Almost everything

17:31

for this , all things chat gpt

17:33

to produce , overwhelm and boost creativity

17:36

was generated through ai . So the , the

17:38

sales copy , the questions for this podcast

17:40

interview I think the intention was to do it for

17:42

our the emails that we would send out . I took care of

17:44

the emails and I didn't

17:46

use chat gpt and I'm pretty quick with

17:48

emails , but you saw , I sat on it for a while . I was

17:50

like sorry , melissa , like I just

17:53

run it , just running a bit behind on things , like Okay , I'm gonna

17:55

get to it today . And as

17:57

a result of you using chat gpt , you were

17:59

done in seconds . Like I was like holy

18:01

crap . Yeah for me . Despite being

18:03

excited about this , it

18:05

was a thing I was like , oh , I really gotta get to , I really gotta get

18:07

to it . But in my mind I was like this is work . I

18:09

gotta sit down and write this email and I gotta

18:11

set up this and it just it blocks

18:13

that . So I can totally see what you're saying and it's

18:15

a perfect example of . Yeah

18:20

yeah , so let's let's jump into that

18:22

. Maybe chat about what you're gonna be covering in the

18:24

class and I'll talk about what I'm gonna be covering .

18:27

I've given some practical examples here

18:29

today of ways

18:31

that you can use it , so really

18:33

specific ways that you can use this to

18:35

move through these blocks , so

18:37

we'll dive into this a little bit more . How to

18:39

amplify your creativity . Decision-making

18:43

is a big piece of where

18:45

we have slowdowns and blocks

18:47

, even to your point of like . Okay , I'm

18:49

going to have to make a lot of decisions about these emails

18:51

, so I'm going to keep pushing it down the road because

18:53

it's going to take a lot of time to get through my mental space

18:56

, and so a lot of

18:58

times , we avoid things that we know we

19:00

have to make a decision about . That takes a long time

19:02

, and so I'm going to also talk

19:04

through how you can enhance productivity

19:06

, enhance your efficiency and make

19:09

more effective , efficient decisions which

19:11

can move you through things a lot quicker , and

19:14

ultimately tying it back into what

19:17

you're going to talk about , and what I'm passionate

19:19

about is holistic well-being

19:22

. How do we use a

19:24

tool like this to really enhance

19:26

our lives so that we can thrive

19:29

instead of feel

19:31

like we're just barely having our heads above water

19:33

? I wear a lot of hats . I have a six-year-old

19:35

son . I'm primary parent in my household

19:38

, I work what

19:40

I don't know if it's full time , but it's a full

19:42

time gig that I try to do in his life .

19:44

You work full time . A few hours is possible

19:46

, though .

19:47

And my husband works and I

19:50

am responsible for the household . I have all of these roles

19:52

and all of the hats in my business too . To

19:54

tie it back into what I said earlier really

19:56

utilizing this to help my whole

19:58

life and help your

20:00

whole life as a entrepreneur , professional

20:03

woman , and what are some of the tools

20:05

that we can use and pull from ? This

20:08

is more of what I would call like a masculine tool

20:10

. That's very like the strategy

20:12

and the how to , and knocking out the to do masculine

20:15

stuff , which usually takes up most of our life

20:17

, so that we can get to the more feminine parts

20:19

of our life and the parts that bring us more joy . So

20:21

that is what I'm going to be diving

20:23

into in more detail than

20:25

the class , and so I'd love for you to share what

20:28

you're going to be talking about as well .

20:29

Yeah well , I'm so pumped to hear about that

20:31

and the approach that I'm bringing is solving

20:34

the same challenges around reducing

20:36

overwhelm and decision making and

20:38

but bringing in the mindset perspective , so

20:40

really sharing about how we can really

20:42

tune into the awareness of our

20:44

thoughts to realize where we're

20:47

getting in our own way and just how looking

20:49

at a situation differently because we always

20:51

have the opportunity to how

20:53

looking at a situation can either increase

20:56

your energy or drain your energy and how

20:58

to stay in that sort of high vibrational

21:01

and solution oriented energy

21:03

so we can keep the momentum going

21:05

and let things feel the way that we want them

21:07

to feel . Overwhelm is a choice , right

21:09

, and when we have the tools the mindset

21:11

tools , the chat , the BT tools we can

21:13

shift out of that state and

21:16

get business and our life feeling the way that

21:18

we always wanted it to .

21:20

Yeah , and as it ties into inner

21:22

rebel , we want

21:24

to do life and business in our own authentic way

21:27

, and we talked about how does

21:29

this take away your authentic voice ? And it's like

21:31

no , let it enhance your authentic voice

21:33

. Let it help you get your authentic voice out there

21:35

. Who says that we have

21:38

to struggle so much to

21:40

be quote unquote successful by

21:42

a patriarchal , capitalistic standard

21:44

? These are all different tools that

21:46

we can pull together so that we can stop

21:49

buying into this bullshit narrative that

21:51

it has to be so hard and let ourselves

21:53

create ease where it's possible and

21:55

let ourselves get supported where it's possible

21:58

, instead of being like I have to do

22:00

it all on my own and it all has to be hard and this

22:02

is how it has to go . I'm calling bullshit on

22:04

all of it and anything that I can bring into

22:06

my life that has integrity . I

22:09

want to use it because I'm trying

22:11

to do things the hard way . I'm

22:14

not trying to do things just

22:16

because somebody else said that's how it has to go

22:18

. I'd rather be innovative and I'd rather

22:20

think outside the box and

22:23

bring my voice

22:25

to life and bring the people together that

22:27

I know I want to have together . And if

22:29

I can use an AI tool to help me do

22:31

that , then apps are freaking loopy because I

22:33

want to go for a hike today .

22:35

Yeah , oh , my gosh , I love this

22:37

so much . I'm so pumped to co-facility

22:40

this with you , but also to learn from you . Yeah

22:42

, start leaning into this . And part of my

22:44

personal journey has been leading in my feminine

22:47

. I love when I can be in my feminine in my business

22:49

, yes , but the reality is that a lot of the

22:51

time I'm a one-woman show with some contractors

22:53

or team members , so I have to be in my masculine

22:55

. I have to run the show , I have to hold the structure . But

22:58

it's much more difficult to access that

23:00

flow , the creativity , when you

23:03

are having to be more predominantly

23:05

masculine . So if I can pass

23:07

that role off to

23:09

my trusty chat GPTT member

23:11

, I'm freaking pumped too .

23:13

Yeah , yeah , let's

23:15

just grow juicy feminine businesses

23:18

as total badass women

23:20

that do

23:22

get a lot of . We do get a lot done . We need to get

23:25

a lot done and it feels really good too , but

23:27

it's the how we're getting things done and

23:29

it's the why underneath the doing

23:31

. That is everything , and so if

23:33

we can start to shift how we're

23:36

looking at our doing and

23:38

why we're taking the actions we're taking , or

23:40

why we're not utilizing certain tools

23:42

, and what's our foundational belief about

23:44

those things , then

23:47

we can start to live a life that we actually want

23:49

to be living and feel the way that we actually

23:51

want to be living . So I'm

23:53

pumped and I'm excited to collaborate with you

23:55

. This is also a feminine way of doing business

23:57

is collaborating and honestly

24:00

, I'm going to speak to the sister wound quickly

24:02

. We could look at each other as having

24:05

competitive businesses

24:07

because we do serve

24:09

similar audiences , but

24:11

at no point have I felt like Rachel's

24:14

gonna take my people away or I'm

24:16

gonna take her people . I look at

24:18

our skill sets and we have such

24:20

complementary skill sets . Plus , I love you

24:22

and I'm like can I please work with my friends ? Yeah

24:26

, I love you I think this is a really beautiful

24:28

example of cross-collaboration

24:31

, when you could consider somebody

24:33

a competitor , but there's so many people out there

24:35

right Totally who's gonna resonate with

24:37

you might not resonate with

24:40

me , and vice versa . I also want us to use

24:42

this as a model of how

24:44

we can come together in life and business

24:46

and really lean on one another instead

24:48

of viewing one another as competition . So I

24:50

think that's a beautiful side thing that

24:53

working with you is making me really present too

24:55

.

24:55

Yeah , I love that you mentioned that and I've

24:57

been doing a lot of my work and offerings on my

24:59

own for several years and

25:02

it's funny because this just goes

25:04

to show that once you decide that something , it happens

25:06

. I was like I want to collaborate , I want to create

25:08

with someone , like I don't want to do this thing alone anymore

25:11

. Even when I was putting together our sales

25:13

page , I was like business alignment

25:15

coach and you have a community membership of women

25:18

and me as a mindset coach for entrepreneurs and

25:20

I have a community of women and I think , just for anyone

25:22

listening that feels like , oh

25:24

, the market's saturated , there's no place for me

25:26

, or how am I going to stand out you will stand

25:28

out because you are you and

25:30

no one can ever be you , and I know that sounds like stupid

25:33

things that your mom tells you , but it's true . It's

25:35

so true though it is true . If

25:37

you want a free , liberated

25:40

, nude , predominant dancing

25:42

queen of an approach , come

25:45

hang out over here . And actually , like you

25:47

do relate to that in many ways too , but you've got your

25:49

flavor and I've got my flavor .

25:50

Totally .

25:51

Why not create more virtual

25:54

and IRL homes

25:56

for people and entrepreneurs in the

25:58

community , so then they can find where

26:00

they belong ? It's not about oh , I

26:02

got more people or you got more people . It's about creating

26:05

a home for everyone so they can feel like they belong

26:07

.

26:07

Yeah , and multiple homes . As

26:10

I'm growing Nova , several people have said to me like why

26:12

would you choose to launch a community in Colorado

26:15

? That's one of the most saturated communities and there's

26:17

already all these communities that

26:19

are thriving for women in networking groups and I was like

26:21

because I want to partner with them

26:23

and I want to promote them . And

26:25

I know that we belong to multiple communities

26:28

and that no one really

26:30

just belongs to one . We're belong to

26:32

multiple . We're always trying to find our people . I was

26:34

like that's such an interesting

26:37

thought that you have about this ?

26:38

Yeah , totally yeah , it's real . So , yeah

26:40

, yeah , so Okay . So I'm tempted to be the

26:42

podcast host here , because that's my former persona

26:44

too , and to close this off and tell

26:47

people how to get involved in Masterclass , but I'm going to let

26:49

you do the honors , so when is our Masterclass

26:51

. How do people sign up ?

26:52

So we are doing this on Tuesday

26:55

, july 25th , at 12

26:57

pm Eastern Standard Time and 10

26:59

am Mountain Standard Time . We'll

27:02

be promoting it through our social media channels

27:04

and we'll also put the link to sign

27:06

up in the notes for this podcast so

27:08

you can click on the landing page to sign up , and

27:11

we promise it's going to be epic because

27:13

you get to hang out with us for an hour , if

27:15

nothing else .

27:17

To be really friends .

27:18

Yes , yes , and we're just so excited . Obviously

27:21

, we love being together and we love sharing our magic

27:23

with as many people as we can , so we hope this

27:25

speaks to you and can't wait to see you there

27:28

.

27:37

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