Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee have a chat with futurist, author, and visionary voice Cathy Hackl about what the "not so distant" future looks like to her. Cathy has been a thought leader in the VR/AR/XR space from HTC Vive, Magic Leap, Amazon, and other amazing companies spearheading these new technologies. Her insight into digital fashion, new ecommerce, and even lessons she has learned from her children about roblox, all play a part in our ever changing digital landscape... take a listen