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QUANTUMANIA: How Many Kangs in the Quantum Realm? | Inside Marvel

QUANTUMANIA: How Many Kangs in the Quantum Realm? | Inside Marvel

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0:00

if you help me. Okay.

0:02

So that's one. We saw another

0:04

one earlier,

0:05

the

0:06

and not all of them have the blue face.

0:09

What's it gonna be?

0:09

Blueface.

0:12

Blueface. Like the Cree?

0:14

I

0:15

mean, it's a sin to cover any part

0:17

of Jonathan Major Space. Right?

0:19

Like this guy, he expresses with

0:22

all hundred forty seven muscles of a smile.

0:24

He can he can isolate them and move

0:26

them in specific. I'm giving this guy a lot of credit.

0:29

I don't really And he's beautiful, and it's okay.

0:31

You just wanna check out his space, man.

0:33

I don't blame you. It's a handsome man.

0:35

I mean, Right. Is it is it

0:38

is it shameless of me to say, I just wanna

0:40

do a breakdown of Jonathan Major's face in

0:42

every second screen time he's been on just

0:44

know, for the acting, for science, for academic

0:47

reasons, purely. That's it. Yeah.

0:48

As long as it's not for looks, because

0:50

that's for

0:51

me. I was gonna ask you if I

0:53

could, but the go for it. If

0:57

it's a sexualizing Jonathan majors breakdown,

0:59

I'm the only unallowed to do it. But you guys can do

1:01

those acting parts. It's true with that contract.

1:03

Welcome back to New Rock Stars. How many

1:06

Kings will be in quantum media? Is it

1:08

just one of them? Are there variants all warring

1:10

against each other in the quantum realm? Is it

1:12

one gang looking for excuses to run off

1:14

to the bathroom for a few minutes until he who looks

1:16

like an old English nanny runs back past

1:18

us courtesy.

1:19

Welcome back to the Cango. Cango. This

1:24

the

1:27

Cit, Jessica.

1:30

I was drinking my smoothie. You don't

1:32

wanna be part of the k gang, Jess?

1:34

Why? No. I do. This movie comes first

1:36

and then k gang, get a second.

1:38

gang. Yeah. Okay. Smoothie, then k gang.

1:40

Okay. Alright. see the other part. You guys couldn't

1:42

hear it, but the slashing of the smoothie inside

1:44

the cup made

1:45

the sound of clogged, clogged, clogged,

1:47

clogged. I got my Starbucks,

1:50

so I'm not as fancy. Mhmm. Mhmm.

1:52

This is the Inside Marvel New

1:54

Relic Starz Weekly Marvel Reaction Show.

1:56

I'm Eric with me today is empty and

1:58

Jessica Clement. Hello friends.

1:59

Bye. Eric,

2:02

I am ready for the King Wars.

2:04

I am ready to see King slap

2:06

another cane. Slap another cane.

2:09

It

2:09

it needs to happen. Just like a

2:12

a kang chain reaction of just

2:14

slap going It's the king bang.

2:16

Well, it's the king bang of prophecy. It's

2:18

it's gonna come. The great king

2:21

bang. We're in an interesting spot. Let's be going

2:23

to say, Marvel, everybody wants watching. Jess

2:25

and I have had the luxury of seeing

2:27

Black Panther were kind of forever. But NTNT

2:30

is taking the true fan approach and seeing it

2:32

opening night. So we don't wanna spoil anything for

2:34

him tonight. We don't wanna spoil anything for any of you. We're not

2:36

gonna be talking about what kind of forever yet. We'll talk about it

2:38

all next week once everyone's seen it, and then

2:40

we'll all touch base then. But today, there's

2:42

just so many questions we still have from Qantamania.

2:46

And at the top of that list how

2:48

many kings

2:49

are in this movie. Now, I wanna

2:51

ask both of you just from the

2:52

get go. When he first watched his trailer,

2:54

was your initial gut reaction to

2:56

this? initial impression was that we're seeing one king

2:59

or multiple kings. I

3:00

thought we were seeing one, but then branded

3:02

on the break room was like, I think it's multiple,

3:04

so it had me second guessing myself. but

3:06

I still think and I'm planting

3:08

my foot that it's one, that

3:10

it is just one.

3:11

Now starting now. Starting now.

3:13

starting now. What about you? I

3:16

I definitely feel like we're gonna see more

3:18

than one king because, like, the Loki finale

3:20

sort of like sort of teed us up for

3:22

multiple kinks and, like, sort of, like, that

3:24

expectation is there. So I think

3:27

that largely in the movie, we're probably gonna

3:29

do this main kang, but, like, maybe,

3:31

like, he wants Scott to steal from another

3:33

king because they they are in a war.

3:35

War we can see maybe

3:37

this

3:37

king is like, hey, we're all

3:40

gonna worry with each other, but, like, this is,

3:42

like, the starting point. So, like, there he's, like,

3:44

starting an army of kang. It's, like, we're gonna start

3:46

to kill each other but this is the starting point.

3:48

So, like, that army shot we see in the trailer,

3:50

maybe it's, like, alright, on your bike's headset.

3:52

Go. Cockerocker.

3:55

Yeah. And only one of us can win. That's

3:58

the beginning of the wild and crazy kids.

4:00

episodes where

4:02

all the different teams all scramble, run past

4:04

each other, run at the camera, and Is

4:06

that a different generation? I'm sorry. Is that

4:08

old man boss? happily didn't

4:10

hear me. Back in the nineties, we had

4:12

Nickelodeon Dolls who

4:15

called Wild and Crazy Kids. I

4:17

was going towards rat race --

4:19

Oh, yeah. -- which is so powerful.

4:22

It's I love rat race. This is a good movie.

4:24

That's a great a fun movie. So, yeah,

4:26

my assumption has been that there is

4:28

only one kang in this movie. And in some

4:30

shots, he has no head gear other times he

4:32

is wearing that helmet that extends the blue

4:34

face shield over space to protect themselves. Similar

4:36

to that, technically, the girdings, the galaxy use, you

4:38

know, that faint blue translucent layer that

4:40

goes over the face and the whole body to keep the oxygenated

4:43

and pressure eyes whenever they're in space. Not yondu.

4:45

Not yondu. Yondu gave that

4:47

to Peter Quill, and we'll never He

4:50

should have sprung for the sale. He should have sprung for

4:52

the sale. got one more. I was

4:55

right now. Gotta have a backup. He

4:57

looked at the the backup on his way. I was

4:59

like, I don't need

4:59

it. how

5:03

you live here. And,

5:06

you know, if they are doing this for Kang,

5:08

like, if normally he's gonna look at Jonathan Majors

5:10

with scars, but then just like extends a helmet

5:12

over his face. I just like the city of using the,

5:14

like, technology to explain Keng's blue

5:16

appearance from the comics. Like, they keep

5:18

Jonathan Majors looking like himself just as

5:20

he did in Lokey. As we said at

5:22

the beginning, we don't wanna put anything

5:24

on that face if we can help it just like let

5:26

the man at the man act. Right. I mean, like but

5:28

in the comics, the his blue face was because

5:30

of the suit as well. So, like -- That's right. -- that's

5:32

right. It was blue. It's just you you rarely

5:34

ever see him without it. it's, like, constantly

5:36

on him. But, like, allowing the

5:38

actor to just kind of retract it and

5:40

and do his act. And that's what we like. That's what

5:42

we want that MSMT said that's khlowest,

5:45

that's truest to the comics. But

5:47

and I think, you know, as we all went to the Loki

5:49

finale, we're like, well, is he gonna be blue? And they

5:51

kinda did a similar face to draw the majors when

5:53

those elevator doors first opened. He walked

5:55

into some blue light, so they're able to play both

5:57

sides of it, I think. Mhmm. But

5:59

one thing we should note from this quantum mechanics trailers,

6:01

we do see kang space three

6:03

times in the trailer. The e one is

6:05

really easiest to see if you watch the IMAX

6:07

version of the trailer. It's at one minute thirty six

6:09

seconds And to me, this is the most important

6:11

angle we see of him because you can actually see

6:13

kank spaces in a different light and it looks

6:15

blue like that helmet is on, but As

6:17

he lowers in the frame, you could see

6:19

the curves of Jonathan Major's face,

6:21

his cheek, his nose, if

6:23

he had a face shield cover like he

6:25

does in the other shower, wearing it. I don't know if

6:27

it would be that thin or at least enough

6:29

to match the guardian you know, the guardian's the Galaxy

6:32

one, it's kind of a bubbly layer over

6:34

you. It's not like perfectly contoured

6:36

to your silhouette. This is

6:38

perfectly contoured to silhouette, so it's probably not

6:40

the same exact technology, or it this

6:42

might just be a different gang. like

6:44

different kind of suit. Maybe

6:46

we're overthinking it. Maybe it's just like unfinished VFX.

6:48

I don't know. Personally, I just think

6:50

quantum media is too soon for multiple whole

6:53

kanks at a single movie, but

6:55

not to say they won't do it. They're just gonna

6:57

have to make some interesting choices to make it

6:59

different from the other times. We've seen multiple variants on

7:01

screen the same time currently in suit MDM

7:03

suit, we're gonna see a lot more of that. We've already

7:05

seen multiple Peters, multiple Lockeys, multiple

7:07

Doctor Strange's, and a scene together we're

7:09

probably gonna see multiple read Richard's

7:11

in a scene together. So to make kang

7:13

distinct, my thought is maybe

7:15

do one at a time in each TV show

7:17

or movie. And let Johnny and majors completely take

7:19

over that story. Yeah. But I think just for the sake of

7:21

the argument here, let's let's like explore

7:23

this thought experiment for what reason

7:25

might there be multiple kings in the quantum

7:27

realm. Could this be another void scenario

7:30

where multiple kings have been banished into

7:32

exile and they all kind of have rivalries?

7:34

Could every pithian foot foot soldier

7:36

that we see in king's fleet in his

7:38

army? Could each of them be a king variant?

7:40

And there's some kind of crazy hierarchy among

7:42

kings that we don't know about?

7:44

I I definitely think that there is a possibility

7:46

for multiple canes to be in the quantum

7:49

realm because

7:49

of what we we learned from He

7:52

Who remains in the Loki finale. And

7:54

he's just like, we learned that the TVA

7:56

exists to keep kings from coming up.

7:58

And I think that

7:59

at the quantum level,

8:02

there could be like some remnants

8:04

of that king war trapped in

8:06

the quantum realm that in in unable

8:08

to escape and enter the timeline.

8:11

and he kept them there

8:13

because, like, that's their prison. He's, like, you know what?

8:15

I'm not gonna kill you. You just I

8:17

want someone to know that I won. because

8:19

if no one knows what I want, then, like, what's

8:21

the point? So yeah.

8:23

So he keeps them there and, like, he traps

8:25

them there. I think a huge part of

8:27

King's goal could be, like,

8:29

escaping the quantum realm and, like, getting

8:31

that technology to grow

8:33

and to be human size and to

8:35

actually conquer. I think that, like,

8:37

maybe that's what he wants Scott to get. He's like, hey.

8:39

Maybe like, I just I just don't know. I

8:41

don't have that technology that you have to

8:43

to get big. So, like, please get me to

8:45

get big sauce. I need to get big sauce

8:47

for my machine. I like

8:48

that. I was thinking I I like

8:51

the ending.

8:52

more so and that's what I also originally

8:54

thought and still think is that he just needs

8:57

the pieces to get out of there. But I do

8:59

-- Right. -- I like the idea of if the

9:01

TBA was this, situation to be like,

9:03

we're protecting you from different variations of

9:05

myself. One of the dimensions was the

9:07

quantum realm sending this one there, and

9:09

specifically this one because this one can't get out. It's really hard

9:11

for this to get So I wanna

9:13

believe that there's only one there because I don't

9:15

think a million kings could be in

9:17

there

9:17

and not fight for power if that makes

9:19

sense. I

9:19

feel like it would just be turmoil. And from

9:22

what we've seen in the trailer, it doesn't look like it's

9:24

too much of, like,

9:25

it could be, like, different

9:28

is it fat factions? it

9:30

could it could be something similar to that.

9:32

But, like, the scene where we see Bill Murray, I'm like,

9:34

yeah, this utopia doesn't look too

9:35

disorganized. So I

9:38

think there is just only one king, because

9:40

three kings at all could probably tear

9:42

that place up. So

9:43

that's my thing.

9:44

Yeah. I think that makes the most sense. As

9:47

I was, like, kind of following this

9:49

thought train long off

9:51

the cliff. I've been thinking a lot

9:53

about trying to reconcile the

9:55

differences between the quantum realm and

9:57

wherever the TBA is. the TPA in

9:59

the comics is in the null time zone. We

10:01

don't know if the TPA in the

10:03

MCU is in the null time zone, but one thing

10:05

we know about the TBA from Lokey

10:07

is that time basically stands still

10:09

there. We have the

10:11

the void, the headquarters of the

10:13

TBA, We have wherever the citadel is. They're

10:16

all part of this timeless realm

10:19

like no one ages in

10:21

the void. None of the krona

10:23

monitors age. They all just kind of stay

10:25

frozen in time. The key difference between that and

10:27

the quantum realm is people still age in the

10:29

quantum realm. A sulfifer, age.

10:31

for the decade she was there. Scott Lane did not because he

10:33

went into a separate time vortex. It's a

10:35

separate thing from the normal quantum realm, whereas if

10:37

Scott just stayed there in the quantum over five years, he

10:39

would have aged for five years. he

10:41

flowed it into a vortex. So

10:43

so I think that

10:45

might that might tell us a lot. Like, maybe he

10:47

remains constructed the the

10:49

void in a specific way so that

10:51

when he vanishes things there,

10:53

they they continue to

10:55

just stay frozen in time. No problem.

10:58

but you can't put a can down in the void

11:00

because if they have time, then they

11:02

can like use that. They

11:04

can if they can just stay there

11:06

forever and ever and ever, then eventually,

11:08

they're gonna find a way to break out of it. So

11:10

he needs to put them in a place that is

11:12

separate from the rest of the world, a

11:14

a place without, like, the kind of technology that

11:16

you can use to, like, build time travel or

11:18

multiverse technology. But you'll

11:20

you're eventually gonna age in the quantum realm.

11:22

So if you send kang's down there, they're

11:24

gonna grow older, they're gonna get eighty,

11:26

ninety, hundred, hundred, twenty years old. Eventually,

11:28

they're gonna die of old age. Their bodies

11:30

are gonna give out. So maybe that's why the

11:32

quantum realm is built the way it is. Maybe

11:34

that was specific prison, like a solitary

11:36

confinement section of a

11:38

prison to send gang variants

11:40

to. That's like where Elias

11:42

sent them after he devoured them.

11:44

I

11:44

don't Maybe that's really fun. I like

11:46

the idea that what's a prison to kings

11:49

is, like, an entire world

11:52

to others. They're like, yeah, this is a

11:54

great place. Or, well, we don't know if it's a great place,

11:56

but I bet people are, like,

11:58

this

11:58

is, like, a

11:59

nation

11:59

of people, and then gang's, like, this is

12:02

a prison. This is

12:03

off. Right. And I hate it here.

12:05

Sort of

12:05

like well, in a in a different way, but,

12:08

like, agent Smith and the Matrix, he's like, I

12:10

hate being here. It's all

12:12

these people are disgusting. I'm

12:15

trying to get out of here. I

12:17

need to be free, and you are

12:20

the key. I did

12:22

that monologue for a freshman year drama class

12:24

thinking that no one would know whether it was from and everyone

12:26

afterwards. They're like, yeah, that's on the matrix.

12:28

Like, why don't you pick a play?

12:31

It is a play.

12:33

It is a play. It's

12:36

a it's a it's a it's a Broadway musical and

12:38

then they adapted it for film. Right?

12:40

Alright. We have some more

12:42

things we wanna discuss when it comes to

12:44

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12:46

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12:48

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office comfort. Okay. I think question we

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should ask is, is the quantum mania

14:54

king the same king as the Loki

14:56

season two king? The giant

14:58

statue king? see at the end of Loki

15:00

season one. Mhmm. Are these different

15:02

kings? Are they the same king? What do you what do you think?

15:04

I

15:04

think they gotta be different. Right? It's even

15:06

based off of, like, looks because the outfit was

15:09

different. I need

15:09

to go back in let me look. Let me let

15:12

me also Google this, the low key statue

15:14

because I I need to see it. Well, it

15:16

depends. Let's see. It does

15:18

look back. It looks very similar

15:20

to the suit that he has in the

15:22

trailer, I think. because, like,

15:24

it that's the that's the king suit. Oh, it is

15:26

the king suit. Comic Book Acura

15:28

King. My thinking is it it would have to

15:30

mean that Loki and Qantamania

15:32

is like victorious at the end of this

15:34

movie to set him up to rule

15:36

over the TBA in season two of Loki.

15:39

Right? Yeah. I think

15:41

you said Loki. I did say the Loki to be

15:43

Victoria. Submit the Kang to be Victoria's coming out of

15:45

Quantum Media. set them up to go over the TVA.

15:47

Not to be that person. It's like, I have the

15:49

image in front of me. But

15:51

the

15:53

Okay. So the king statue does resemble

15:56

the king from Pennsylvania, but it doesn't

15:58

resemble

15:59

it doesn't

15:59

resemble the original, the first king

16:01

we saw. And I know the first king we saw was the,

16:04

like, domino effect to

16:05

the other kings being released. But I'm, like

16:07

-- Right. -- do you think there's just some kings that dressed

16:09

the

16:09

side? Yeah. They sold to the

16:11

party. They're like, oh god. Damn

16:14

it. They're doing that TikTok then where their girlfriends

16:16

buy them the same outfit, and they show up,

16:18

and they're wearing the same

16:19

outfit. I honestly do think that,

16:21

like, there are multiple kings that do dress

16:23

the exact same. because like we see that in

16:25

the comics, there are multiple kings that

16:28

look blue and have that same suit.

16:30

and have completely different types of lives.

16:32

So, like, there was a possibility that,

16:34

like, they're they could be they could be

16:36

completely different kings here. Yeah. This one

16:38

also this statue one technically

16:40

doesn't have this scar. Technically.

16:42

Yeah. I I would understand also being, like,

16:45

if you're gonna make a statue of me, make sure

16:47

my real issues are taken out. Take

16:49

out my scar. Take out the

16:51

scar. No scar. Leave

16:54

leave the stretch marks, but take off the

16:56

sky. I want them

16:58

to know I'm thick when I die.

17:00

Now when you when you carve my

17:02

crush, give me a nice Yes. A

17:04

nice Right. I wanna double.

17:08

None of that

17:11

statue of David's shit. that

17:13

real thing. The real thing.

17:20

Here you go. So there's not

17:22

enough stone. We'll get

17:24

the stone. We'll get the

17:27

stone. But I didn't know.

17:32

I'm

17:32

disgusted. Building.

17:35

I'm disgusted. do

17:37

you think they carved, like, Thomas Jefferson

17:39

or or Abraham Lincoln for Washington? Do you

17:41

see the do you see their ghosts? We're just hanging out in

17:44

there? Like,

17:45

Look

17:47

at me. Please

17:49

look at

17:51

me. This

17:52

was the honest

17:55

age. He's like, holy

17:57

damn ass. I

17:59

am. I am.

18:00

I am. I

18:02

I yeah. I I don't think

18:04

okay. Maybe I don't think it is. Maybe I don't think it is.

18:07

But it makes sense.

18:10

See, I I think, like, we need

18:13

to number our kinks. We need

18:15

to, like, the Michael Scott effect of just, like,

18:17

getting the marker and marking their arms, you know, Like, I

18:19

think we need to number them or give them

18:21

nicknames. You know, like, we have

18:23

with Strange, we kinda defend her strange.

18:25

We had -- Yeah. -- 838

18:28

Strange. Like, we can call them King Prime

18:30

or Alpha King, and they just kinda work your

18:32

way down the Greek letters or something like that.

18:34

Like, I wonder if, like, the one who lords

18:36

over the TBA that gonna be king prime? Are we

18:38

not gonna be king prime till king

18:41

dynasty, you think? Probably

18:42

that makes sense. It's called

18:45

king dynasty. that's

18:46

like the ultimate king.

18:47

Right. The best Yeah. We've got to meet

18:50

king Prime in the in the king dynasty.

18:52

Though, like, I think there there is a chance that,

18:54

like, this TVA at the

18:55

end of Loki could be

18:57

what this came that we're seeing quantum media,

19:00

what he lost, and, like, what he's

19:02

trying to reclaim that like, I think that this is a

19:04

completely separate TVA ruling over a

19:06

completely separate multi verse,

19:08

whether it's the fox and multi verse or

19:10

whatever multi verse it

19:12

is. whatever. And I think that there there was a possibility

19:14

here that this king that we're seeing in Ant Man was

19:16

like, I got that shit

19:18

taken away from me and I

19:21

wanted back And so,

19:23

like, I just need you your help to

19:25

to to get what I want to get that

19:27

TBA back and maybe, like, the

19:29

TBA being ruled at the end

19:31

of Loki is secretly being run by Renslayer because

19:33

we see here we even so

19:36

I don't know. do

19:37

we I know that we don't

19:39

know what time time is

19:42

in in

19:42

Lokey, but do we know if

19:45

Loki,

19:46

the series is coming out

19:49

after Quantum Media?

19:51

Yeah. I think Loki is coming summer twenty

19:53

twenty three. could be that subtle little thing

19:55

that he he addresses a little

19:57

bit in Qantamania of, like, I was

19:59

dethroned, and I need to go back to my

20:02

TVA. And then that's where we can up where MT's pitch is

20:04

with rents later being in charge of the TVA. It

20:06

just

20:06

seems like someone that has a statue in

20:08

the TVA would

20:09

have more pull

20:11

on where they go and our

20:13

sense and, like, done. You know? because

20:15

it's, like, if

20:16

RenSler takes over, great. I would love that, but

20:18

I'm almost, like, man has a

20:20

statue. It seems like a lot of

20:22

people trying

20:22

to work for him. And you guys just kicked

20:24

him out. Yeah. I

20:25

think we're going to meet a

20:27

finite number of kinks. I think that's the way you do

20:29

it. Right? When you're trying to establish there's, like, you know,

20:31

there's seven evil ex boyfriends, there's seven

20:34

horcruxes we gotta find.

20:36

Like, to give ourselves a finite number. Like, he remains

20:38

was the exile. He didn't even go by King at

20:40

that point. He was, like,

20:42

the the weird guardian before

20:45

you go into the cave of wonders or

20:47

whatever. Like, you don't want to

20:49

go down this path. Here,

20:51

travel lies ahead. So,

20:53

like, he's kind of the mythological, like,

20:56

weirdo that kinda troll before

20:58

the bridge. On the other side of

21:00

the bridge, there's, like, seven obstacles. Right?

21:02

It's I imagine, like, named seven

21:05

k's. Like, the number seven is kind

21:07

of the the largest single digit

21:09

prime number. Right? Is that Correct.

21:11

Yeah. So that's probably why seven has

21:13

some kind of significance that we see

21:15

throughout mythology and religion and

21:17

fiction and everything. all three of

21:19

those words mean the same thing. But any who I

21:22

think the that,

21:24

like, numb named

21:26

seven k. And then the first kang we need is

21:28

in Qantamania. The second kang

21:30

we need is in Lokey season

21:32

two, and that leaves like a certain number of

21:34

kinks left that they have to foil in

21:36

in the move. the duration

21:38

of a of king

21:40

dynasty, but maybe there's like an an

21:42

alpha king, a king prime. Like, there could be four

21:44

in king dynasty, leaving one left over who's

21:46

like, yes, I've got you all together.

21:48

You're in battle world now motherfuckers fight

21:50

each other, secret wars, and that's how we get to

21:52

phase six. That's my thinking. Right.

21:54

Just give yourself a limited number.

21:56

I am really hoping that

21:59

I

21:59

forget his name, the dude from a a good

22:02

place that was just confirmed to be

22:04

in media. Oh, William Jackson Harper. Oh, yeah.

22:06

William Jackson Harper. Yes. I am

22:08

secretly hoping that he is a king

22:10

variant. The king variant, mister Griffin.

22:12

who owns King Tower in the

22:14

in the Marvel Comics. I would love for him

22:16

to play mister Griffin in some type of young

22:19

Avengers project I

22:21

just wanted to be a king variant so bad. As

22:23

soon as he got casted, everyone was, like,

22:25

putting their theories and I was, like, I hope he's just

22:27

a king variant. that looks different than the

22:30

other than Java majors. I would love

22:32

just I I want them to get to

22:34

variations where they don't look

22:36

like like,

22:36

how the locals didn't

22:37

look like Tom Hiddleston. So I'm, like,

22:39

yeah, I want to see that there's

22:41

ones that just don't look like

22:43

it. I kinda wanna see Kenan

22:45

Thompson as a k.

22:49

And Ken has been on SNL

22:51

for, like, twenty three years. And he's

22:53

just been running SNL. He's just running SNL. He got his

22:55

own show now. That's that's

22:58

his he's like,

22:58

I wanna take over SNL. I wanna be

23:01

SNL.

23:01

Okay. That was

23:03

so weird. What up we can't.

23:05

What up we can't.

23:09

Yo. Let's get a ketamine cane

23:11

going on. I would love the idea that

23:14

King.

23:14

It was like, in this universe, he was

23:16

like, yeah,

23:16

I can't wait to do what's up with that. and

23:18

then Black Jeopardy for, like, five years. What's

23:23

up? Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.

23:26

Hello. What up with that? What

23:28

I'm gonna Yeah.

23:31

Yeah. I want like, this is something that

23:33

bugs me is, like, Castney directors

23:35

in Hollywood seem to place

23:37

this barrier between TV and

23:40

film. And certain actors are allowed to

23:42

be on film some actors are only allowed

23:44

to be in TV. Like, who's the guy from

23:46

the good place? Who plays Nick

23:49

in good place? We're forgetting everyone's name

23:51

from the good place. Right. They're not

23:53

the good place. I'm gonna just say

23:55

a a new girl. Jake

23:57

Johnson. So Jake Johnson.

23:59

My god. The so perfect

24:01

example. Jake Johnson is allowed to be

24:03

in TV. He's allowed to be in movies. They

24:05

made it a new version of Jake Johnson named

24:07

Oscar Isaac, who gets to be in movies. They're

24:09

the same person said, they have the same delivery I think they have

24:11

the same delivery. I think

24:14

Oscar Isaac I think Oscar Isaac and

24:16

Jake Johnson. Look exactly like

24:19

mine. You know her. No. No. No. Literally. They are the same human.

24:21

You mean, I mean, they get on the right person.

24:24

Talk to me again. Don't walk dogs.

24:26

Let me

24:28

look up. St. Johnson is kind of They

24:30

look exactly the same name of the same comedic

24:33

they have the same comedic comedic

24:35

speed. But Jake Johnson, I guarantee he wakes

24:37

up every day saying, you Oscar Isaac because

24:39

I can't be in movies because of but

24:43

hey, you Spider Man, so it's five. They both get to voice

24:45

characters in Spider Man. One plays

24:47

Miguel Hair, one plays -- He was

24:49

true. -- right? So but

24:51

he can invoice characters, but he's not allowed to be in movies. Like

24:53

that, you see, now Marvel TV has been

24:55

the saving grace for a lot of these.

24:58

because casting directors, like, alright, we can

25:00

put TV actors in these things so you get

25:02

like Katherine Hahn who gets to be with

25:04

movie stars. like like

25:06

Elizabeth Olson and Paul Bittney.

25:08

I don't know what the science is. I think they have

25:10

weird little compasses where they measure people's

25:12

facial proportions and they're

25:14

like, yes. this can be projected in IMAX. So we're allowed to

25:16

put their face but if you put, like, Tom Creutz

25:18

in a TV show, everyone's like, his face

25:20

is saying which, and his teeth are

25:22

misaligned. Like, think there's, like, a weird

25:24

science that tells cast actors that they can't

25:26

put TV actors on big screens for

25:28

whatever reason. Yep. Speaking of Jake Johnson

25:30

in quantum media, I kind of

25:32

hope he's in quantum I mean, he's not

25:35

confirmed for that at all. But I kind of hope he's

25:37

secretly in it as the

25:39

irredeemable ant man, Erica

25:42

Grady. I

25:42

feel like Jake Johnson would be so

25:44

good. That'd be one. Of just

25:46

like a really irresponsible ant man. He's just

25:48

like, you know, I don't have to use it to just,

25:50

you know, do do whatever I want.

25:52

You know, just really really fun.

25:55

So that'd be really cool. I don't

25:56

know. There's some weird

25:58

Fantastic. FT FAD casting over

26:00

here. MT FAD casting. My favorite

26:02

segment. I'm just kind of like spitballing for

26:04

a second here, which I do all the time,

26:06

especially late in these episodes of Insight

26:09

Marble, but I think I think these

26:10

the

26:11

MCU on Disney plus benefits from

26:14

having more TV actors because the

26:16

difference between film actors film actors

26:18

are like, I wanna know my character's beats,

26:20

the full arc. I wanna know where my

26:22

character is going and how history will end.

26:24

So you bring in these film actors and

26:26

then they're like, They're playing more subtle. They're thinking about the

26:28

big picture of the character. Whereas, then

26:30

you get Katherine Hahn in here, and she's a

26:32

TV actress. She can do whatever. She's like, just

26:35

gonna make the most of this moment and

26:37

create a moment for the DPE

26:39

so that they can, like, shoot the shot.

26:41

And then the other is, like, yeah. Sure. Great.

26:43

Like, I think TV actors are better at, like,

26:46

finding their mark, hitting their

26:48

mark, delivering something with a clean,

26:50

clear take that seems a little wacky,

26:52

and it isn't necessarily consistent with,

26:54

like, the full arc of a character. But who the f

26:56

carries? In the MCU, everything's

26:58

like a TV episode because, like, it's just setting

27:00

up the next thing. It's all about the cliffhanger. I think

27:02

that's when a lot of people well, not a lot of people,

27:04

some people gripe about the MCU is

27:07

that, like, doesn't have this kind of,

27:09

like, clear direction. It's just kinda going

27:11

play by play. It's more tactics, less

27:13

strategy. But I don't know. I'm enjoying the

27:15

ride. I don't care. true. It's just a this

27:17

is my argument to get more TV actors on

27:19

screen and less of these beautiful, model,

27:21

weird, boxface, high cheekbone

27:23

film actors. Yes.

27:25

Brah, I'm telling This we

27:27

should get Schmidt from New Girl to

27:31

play Bob the Hydra

27:33

Agent in Deadpool three. I think

27:35

that he would make a great Bob. If

27:38

you really find either Schmidt or

27:40

what's his face? The dude from

27:43

Always Sunny, a a Mac Charlie day. Would oh,

27:45

Mac have always shot Sunny.

27:47

He's, like, good friends with Ryan Reynolds. I think

27:49

he'd also make a good Bob.

27:51

from Heidrick, who is Deadpool's friend

27:54

in

27:54

the comics. So I think it'd be really fun.

27:56

Could you imagine those two together for the next

27:59

three years? It wasn't

27:59

so

27:59

familiar. and then you throw in

28:01

Hugh Jackman. Dude, it's Christ.

28:03

Who

28:03

has been better for the MCU? Christian

28:05

Bale or Katherine Hahn?

28:07

Just ask yourself that question. Christian Bill,

28:09

you guys gonna have an actor. He's an

28:11

amazing actor. Did he do anything for the

28:14

MCU and score the God butcher? No.

28:16

But Katherine Hahn, I wanna here in a million

28:18

more things. I do too. You'll come up there. I

28:20

can't get to your hands. I got

28:22

to those guys. guy.

28:25

He's got a hero car.

28:27

He says, there is no car. I

28:29

got the house. Sorry, miss. Fuck

28:32

me. he's a crazy person. He's a looney

28:34

tune, covin of chaos. Make

28:36

it

28:36

even worse. They just got Eric Andrey

28:38

and such as Amada who are

28:41

genuinely good actors when they're not

28:42

playing the craziest people on

28:45

TV. And I'm like, you guys just

28:47

keep getting comedic TV people and they're

28:49

very good, and I can't wait until this is the

28:50

best thing that comes. They're serviceable.

28:53

The camera chaos is probably gonna be

28:55

surprisingly funny. It's a lot simpler

28:57

than good.

28:57

A coven of witches with

28:59

Sashir Zamata,

29:00

and Aubrey Plaza seems

29:03

so fun. It

29:04

seems like it's an amazing show. Such

29:05

an SNL such an SNL episode.

29:08

Oh.

29:08

Ki n. Ki n. My show We felt

29:10

like we're pretty good.

29:13

Yes. I'm so excited. my

29:16

god. Where's the keyed in robot? We have a

29:18

camera robot. We need a keyed in

29:20

robot for S and L.

29:22

We'll leave it there for this episode of Inside

29:24

Marvel. Now haven't already be sure to watch Jessica's spoiler

29:26

free review of black people on

29:28

forever. And she had such an

29:30

amazing take on this film.

29:32

recommend you watch it. It's now up on the

29:34

channel. MT's explanation of the post credit scene

29:36

will be up on the channel tomorrow, and

29:38

then my introductory breakdown

29:40

will be up on the channel on Saturday. Three

29:42

of us are gonna spend a lot more time talking about

29:44

this film on next week's episodes.

29:46

Stay tuned for that. If you could follow me at

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29:52

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New York. Sorry. Thank you so much for watching. And we'll see

29:56

you next week. Hi, everybody. Bye.

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