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if you help me. Okay.
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So that's one. We saw another
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one earlier,
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the
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and not all of them have the blue face.
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What's it gonna be?
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Blueface.
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Blueface. Like the Cree?
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I
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mean, it's a sin to cover any part
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of Jonathan Major Space. Right?
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Like this guy, he expresses with
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all hundred forty seven muscles of a smile.
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He can he can isolate them and move
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them in specific. I'm giving this guy a lot of credit.
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I don't really And he's beautiful, and it's okay.
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You just wanna check out his space, man.
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I don't blame you. It's a handsome man.
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I mean, Right. Is it is it
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is it shameless of me to say, I just wanna
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do a breakdown of Jonathan Major's face in
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every second screen time he's been on just
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know, for the acting, for science, for academic
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reasons, purely. That's it. Yeah.
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As long as it's not for looks, because
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that's for
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me. I was gonna ask you if I
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could, but the go for it. If
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it's a sexualizing Jonathan majors breakdown,
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I'm the only unallowed to do it. But you guys can do
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those acting parts. It's true with that contract.
1:03
Welcome back to New Rock Stars. How many
1:06
Kings will be in quantum media? Is it
1:08
just one of them? Are there variants all warring
1:10
against each other in the quantum realm? Is it
1:12
one gang looking for excuses to run off
1:14
to the bathroom for a few minutes until he who looks
1:16
like an old English nanny runs back past
1:18
us courtesy.
1:19
Welcome back to the Cango. Cango. This
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the
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Cit, Jessica.
1:30
I was drinking my smoothie. You don't
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wanna be part of the k gang, Jess?
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Why? No. I do. This movie comes first
1:36
and then k gang, get a second.
1:38
gang. Yeah. Okay. Smoothie, then k gang.
1:40
Okay. Alright. see the other part. You guys couldn't
1:42
hear it, but the slashing of the smoothie inside
1:44
the cup made
1:45
the sound of clogged, clogged, clogged,
1:47
clogged. I got my Starbucks,
1:50
so I'm not as fancy. Mhmm. Mhmm.
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This is the Inside Marvel New
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Relic Starz Weekly Marvel Reaction Show.
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I'm Eric with me today is empty and
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Jessica Clement. Hello friends.
1:59
Bye. Eric,
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I am ready for the King Wars.
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I am ready to see King slap
2:06
another cane. Slap another cane.
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It
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it needs to happen. Just like a
2:12
a kang chain reaction of just
2:14
slap going It's the king bang.
2:16
Well, it's the king bang of prophecy. It's
2:18
it's gonna come. The great king
2:21
bang. We're in an interesting spot. Let's be going
2:23
to say, Marvel, everybody wants watching. Jess
2:25
and I have had the luxury of seeing
2:27
Black Panther were kind of forever. But NTNT
2:30
is taking the true fan approach and seeing it
2:32
opening night. So we don't wanna spoil anything for
2:34
him tonight. We don't wanna spoil anything for any of you. We're not
2:36
gonna be talking about what kind of forever yet. We'll talk about it
2:38
all next week once everyone's seen it, and then
2:40
we'll all touch base then. But today, there's
2:42
just so many questions we still have from Qantamania.
2:46
And at the top of that list how
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many kings
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are in this movie. Now, I wanna
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ask both of you just from the
2:52
get go. When he first watched his trailer,
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was your initial gut reaction to
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this? initial impression was that we're seeing one king
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or multiple kings. I
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thought we were seeing one, but then branded
3:02
on the break room was like, I think it's multiple,
3:04
so it had me second guessing myself. but
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I still think and I'm planting
3:08
my foot that it's one, that
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it is just one.
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Now starting now. Starting now.
3:13
starting now. What about you? I
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I definitely feel like we're gonna see more
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than one king because, like, the Loki finale
3:20
sort of like sort of teed us up for
3:22
multiple kinks and, like, sort of, like, that
3:24
expectation is there. So I think
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that largely in the movie, we're probably gonna
3:29
do this main kang, but, like, maybe,
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like, he wants Scott to steal from another
3:33
king because they they are in a war.
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War we can see maybe
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this
3:37
king is like, hey, we're all
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gonna worry with each other, but, like, this is,
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like, the starting point. So, like, there he's, like,
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starting an army of kang. It's, like, we're gonna start
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to kill each other but this is the starting point.
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So, like, that army shot we see in the trailer,
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maybe it's, like, alright, on your bike's headset.
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Go. Cockerocker.
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Yeah. And only one of us can win. That's
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the beginning of the wild and crazy kids.
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episodes where
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all the different teams all scramble, run past
4:04
each other, run at the camera, and Is
4:06
that a different generation? I'm sorry. Is that
4:08
old man boss? happily didn't
4:10
hear me. Back in the nineties, we had
4:12
Nickelodeon Dolls who
4:15
called Wild and Crazy Kids. I
4:17
was going towards rat race --
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Oh, yeah. -- which is so powerful.
4:22
It's I love rat race. This is a good movie.
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That's a great a fun movie. So, yeah,
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my assumption has been that there is
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only one kang in this movie. And in some
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shots, he has no head gear other times he
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is wearing that helmet that extends the blue
4:34
face shield over space to protect themselves. Similar
4:36
to that, technically, the girdings, the galaxy use, you
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know, that faint blue translucent layer that
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goes over the face and the whole body to keep the oxygenated
4:43
and pressure eyes whenever they're in space. Not yondu.
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Not yondu. Yondu gave that
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to Peter Quill, and we'll never He
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should have sprung for the sale. He should have sprung for
4:52
the sale. got one more. I was
4:55
right now. Gotta have a backup. He
4:57
looked at the the backup on his way. I was
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like, I don't need
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it. how
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you live here. And,
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you know, if they are doing this for Kang,
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like, if normally he's gonna look at Jonathan Majors
5:10
with scars, but then just like extends a helmet
5:12
over his face. I just like the city of using the,
5:14
like, technology to explain Keng's blue
5:16
appearance from the comics. Like, they keep
5:18
Jonathan Majors looking like himself just as
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he did in Lokey. As we said at
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the beginning, we don't wanna put anything
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on that face if we can help it just like let
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the man at the man act. Right. I mean, like but
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in the comics, the his blue face was because
5:30
of the suit as well. So, like -- That's right. -- that's
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right. It was blue. It's just you you rarely
5:34
ever see him without it. it's, like, constantly
5:36
on him. But, like, allowing the
5:38
actor to just kind of retract it and
5:40
and do his act. And that's what we like. That's what
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we want that MSMT said that's khlowest,
5:45
that's truest to the comics. But
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and I think, you know, as we all went to the Loki
5:49
finale, we're like, well, is he gonna be blue? And they
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kinda did a similar face to draw the majors when
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those elevator doors first opened. He walked
5:55
into some blue light, so they're able to play both
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sides of it, I think. Mhmm. But
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one thing we should note from this quantum mechanics trailers,
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we do see kang space three
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times in the trailer. The e one is
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really easiest to see if you watch the IMAX
6:07
version of the trailer. It's at one minute thirty six
6:09
seconds And to me, this is the most important
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angle we see of him because you can actually see
6:13
kank spaces in a different light and it looks
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blue like that helmet is on, but As
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he lowers in the frame, you could see
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the curves of Jonathan Major's face,
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his cheek, his nose, if
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he had a face shield cover like he
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does in the other shower, wearing it. I don't know if
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it would be that thin or at least enough
6:29
to match the guardian you know, the guardian's the Galaxy
6:32
one, it's kind of a bubbly layer over
6:34
you. It's not like perfectly contoured
6:36
to your silhouette. This is
6:38
perfectly contoured to silhouette, so it's probably not
6:40
the same exact technology, or it this
6:42
might just be a different gang. like
6:44
different kind of suit. Maybe
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we're overthinking it. Maybe it's just like unfinished VFX.
6:48
I don't know. Personally, I just think
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quantum media is too soon for multiple whole
6:53
kanks at a single movie, but
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not to say they won't do it. They're just gonna
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have to make some interesting choices to make it
6:59
different from the other times. We've seen multiple variants on
7:01
screen the same time currently in suit MDM
7:03
suit, we're gonna see a lot more of that. We've already
7:05
seen multiple Peters, multiple Lockeys, multiple
7:07
Doctor Strange's, and a scene together we're
7:09
probably gonna see multiple read Richard's
7:11
in a scene together. So to make kang
7:13
distinct, my thought is maybe
7:15
do one at a time in each TV show
7:17
or movie. And let Johnny and majors completely take
7:19
over that story. Yeah. But I think just for the sake of
7:21
the argument here, let's let's like explore
7:23
this thought experiment for what reason
7:25
might there be multiple kings in the quantum
7:27
realm. Could this be another void scenario
7:30
where multiple kings have been banished into
7:32
exile and they all kind of have rivalries?
7:34
Could every pithian foot foot soldier
7:36
that we see in king's fleet in his
7:38
army? Could each of them be a king variant?
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And there's some kind of crazy hierarchy among
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kings that we don't know about?
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I I definitely think that there is a possibility
7:46
for multiple canes to be in the quantum
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realm because
7:49
of what we we learned from He
7:52
Who remains in the Loki finale. And
7:54
he's just like, we learned that the TVA
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exists to keep kings from coming up.
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And I think that
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at the quantum level,
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there could be like some remnants
8:04
of that king war trapped in
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the quantum realm that in in unable
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to escape and enter the timeline.
8:11
and he kept them there
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because, like, that's their prison. He's, like, you know what?
8:15
I'm not gonna kill you. You just I
8:17
want someone to know that I won. because
8:19
if no one knows what I want, then, like, what's
8:21
the point? So yeah.
8:23
So he keeps them there and, like, he traps
8:25
them there. I think a huge part of
8:27
King's goal could be, like,
8:29
escaping the quantum realm and, like, getting
8:31
that technology to grow
8:33
and to be human size and to
8:35
actually conquer. I think that, like,
8:37
maybe that's what he wants Scott to get. He's like, hey.
8:39
Maybe like, I just I just don't know. I
8:41
don't have that technology that you have to
8:43
to get big. So, like, please get me to
8:45
get big sauce. I need to get big sauce
8:47
for my machine. I like
8:48
that. I was thinking I I like
8:51
the ending.
8:52
more so and that's what I also originally
8:54
thought and still think is that he just needs
8:57
the pieces to get out of there. But I do
8:59
-- Right. -- I like the idea of if the
9:01
TBA was this, situation to be like,
9:03
we're protecting you from different variations of
9:05
myself. One of the dimensions was the
9:07
quantum realm sending this one there, and
9:09
specifically this one because this one can't get out. It's really hard
9:11
for this to get So I wanna
9:13
believe that there's only one there because I don't
9:15
think a million kings could be in
9:17
there
9:17
and not fight for power if that makes
9:19
sense. I
9:19
feel like it would just be turmoil. And from
9:22
what we've seen in the trailer, it doesn't look like it's
9:24
too much of, like,
9:25
it could be, like, different
9:28
is it fat factions? it
9:30
could it could be something similar to that.
9:32
But, like, the scene where we see Bill Murray, I'm like,
9:34
yeah, this utopia doesn't look too
9:35
disorganized. So I
9:38
think there is just only one king, because
9:40
three kings at all could probably tear
9:42
that place up. So
9:43
that's my thing.
9:44
Yeah. I think that makes the most sense. As
9:47
I was, like, kind of following this
9:49
thought train long off
9:51
the cliff. I've been thinking a lot
9:53
about trying to reconcile the
9:55
differences between the quantum realm and
9:57
wherever the TBA is. the TPA in
9:59
the comics is in the null time zone. We
10:01
don't know if the TPA in the
10:03
MCU is in the null time zone, but one thing
10:05
we know about the TBA from Lokey
10:07
is that time basically stands still
10:09
there. We have the
10:11
the void, the headquarters of the
10:13
TBA, We have wherever the citadel is. They're
10:16
all part of this timeless realm
10:19
like no one ages in
10:21
the void. None of the krona
10:23
monitors age. They all just kind of stay
10:25
frozen in time. The key difference between that and
10:27
the quantum realm is people still age in the
10:29
quantum realm. A sulfifer, age.
10:31
for the decade she was there. Scott Lane did not because he
10:33
went into a separate time vortex. It's a
10:35
separate thing from the normal quantum realm, whereas if
10:37
Scott just stayed there in the quantum over five years, he
10:39
would have aged for five years. he
10:41
flowed it into a vortex. So
10:43
so I think that
10:45
might that might tell us a lot. Like, maybe he
10:47
remains constructed the the
10:49
void in a specific way so that
10:51
when he vanishes things there,
10:53
they they continue to
10:55
just stay frozen in time. No problem.
10:58
but you can't put a can down in the void
11:00
because if they have time, then they
11:02
can like use that. They
11:04
can if they can just stay there
11:06
forever and ever and ever, then eventually,
11:08
they're gonna find a way to break out of it. So
11:10
he needs to put them in a place that is
11:12
separate from the rest of the world, a
11:14
a place without, like, the kind of technology that
11:16
you can use to, like, build time travel or
11:18
multiverse technology. But you'll
11:20
you're eventually gonna age in the quantum realm.
11:22
So if you send kang's down there, they're
11:24
gonna grow older, they're gonna get eighty,
11:26
ninety, hundred, hundred, twenty years old. Eventually,
11:28
they're gonna die of old age. Their bodies
11:30
are gonna give out. So maybe that's why the
11:32
quantum realm is built the way it is. Maybe
11:34
that was specific prison, like a solitary
11:36
confinement section of a
11:38
prison to send gang variants
11:40
to. That's like where Elias
11:42
sent them after he devoured them.
11:44
I
11:44
don't Maybe that's really fun. I like
11:46
the idea that what's a prison to kings
11:49
is, like, an entire world
11:52
to others. They're like, yeah, this is a
11:54
great place. Or, well, we don't know if it's a great place,
11:56
but I bet people are, like,
11:58
this
11:58
is, like, a
11:59
nation
11:59
of people, and then gang's, like, this is
12:02
a prison. This is
12:03
off. Right. And I hate it here.
12:05
Sort of
12:05
like well, in a in a different way, but,
12:08
like, agent Smith and the Matrix, he's like, I
12:10
hate being here. It's all
12:12
these people are disgusting. I'm
12:15
trying to get out of here. I
12:17
need to be free, and you are
12:20
the key. I did
12:22
that monologue for a freshman year drama class
12:24
thinking that no one would know whether it was from and everyone
12:26
afterwards. They're like, yeah, that's on the matrix.
12:28
Like, why don't you pick a play?
12:31
It is a play.
12:33
It is a play. It's
12:36
a it's a it's a it's a Broadway musical and
12:38
then they adapted it for film. Right?
12:40
Alright. We have some more
12:42
things we wanna discuss when it comes to
12:44
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12:46
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12:48
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office comfort. Okay. I think question we
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should ask is, is the quantum mania
14:54
king the same king as the Loki
14:56
season two king? The giant
14:58
statue king? see at the end of Loki
15:00
season one. Mhmm. Are these different
15:02
kings? Are they the same king? What do you what do you think?
15:04
I
15:04
think they gotta be different. Right? It's even
15:06
based off of, like, looks because the outfit was
15:09
different. I need
15:09
to go back in let me look. Let me let
15:12
me also Google this, the low key statue
15:14
because I I need to see it. Well, it
15:16
depends. Let's see. It does
15:18
look back. It looks very similar
15:20
to the suit that he has in the
15:22
trailer, I think. because, like,
15:24
it that's the that's the king suit. Oh, it is
15:26
the king suit. Comic Book Acura
15:28
King. My thinking is it it would have to
15:30
mean that Loki and Qantamania
15:32
is like victorious at the end of this
15:34
movie to set him up to rule
15:36
over the TBA in season two of Loki.
15:39
Right? Yeah. I think
15:41
you said Loki. I did say the Loki to be
15:43
Victoria. Submit the Kang to be Victoria's coming out of
15:45
Quantum Media. set them up to go over the TVA.
15:47
Not to be that person. It's like, I have the
15:49
image in front of me. But
15:51
the
15:53
Okay. So the king statue does resemble
15:56
the king from Pennsylvania, but it doesn't
15:58
resemble
15:59
it doesn't
15:59
resemble the original, the first king
16:01
we saw. And I know the first king we saw was the,
16:04
like, domino effect to
16:05
the other kings being released. But I'm, like
16:07
-- Right. -- do you think there's just some kings that dressed
16:09
the
16:09
side? Yeah. They sold to the
16:11
party. They're like, oh god. Damn
16:14
it. They're doing that TikTok then where their girlfriends
16:16
buy them the same outfit, and they show up,
16:18
and they're wearing the same
16:19
outfit. I honestly do think that,
16:21
like, there are multiple kings that do dress
16:23
the exact same. because like we see that in
16:25
the comics, there are multiple kings that
16:28
look blue and have that same suit.
16:30
and have completely different types of lives.
16:32
So, like, there was a possibility that,
16:34
like, they're they could be they could be
16:36
completely different kings here. Yeah. This one
16:38
also this statue one technically
16:40
doesn't have this scar. Technically.
16:42
Yeah. I I would understand also being, like,
16:45
if you're gonna make a statue of me, make sure
16:47
my real issues are taken out. Take
16:49
out my scar. Take out the
16:51
scar. No scar. Leave
16:54
leave the stretch marks, but take off the
16:56
sky. I want them
16:58
to know I'm thick when I die.
17:00
Now when you when you carve my
17:02
crush, give me a nice Yes. A
17:04
nice Right. I wanna double.
17:08
None of that
17:11
statue of David's shit. that
17:13
real thing. The real thing.
17:20
Here you go. So there's not
17:22
enough stone. We'll get
17:24
the stone. We'll get the
17:27
stone. But I didn't know.
17:32
I'm
17:32
disgusted. Building.
17:35
I'm disgusted. do
17:37
you think they carved, like, Thomas Jefferson
17:39
or or Abraham Lincoln for Washington? Do you
17:41
see the do you see their ghosts? We're just hanging out in
17:44
there? Like,
17:45
Look
17:47
at me. Please
17:49
look at
17:51
me. This
17:52
was the honest
17:55
age. He's like, holy
17:57
damn ass. I
17:59
am. I am.
18:00
I am. I
18:02
I yeah. I I don't think
18:04
okay. Maybe I don't think it is. Maybe I don't think it is.
18:07
But it makes sense.
18:10
See, I I think, like, we need
18:13
to number our kinks. We need
18:15
to, like, the Michael Scott effect of just, like,
18:17
getting the marker and marking their arms, you know, Like, I
18:19
think we need to number them or give them
18:21
nicknames. You know, like, we have
18:23
with Strange, we kinda defend her strange.
18:25
We had -- Yeah. -- 838
18:28
Strange. Like, we can call them King Prime
18:30
or Alpha King, and they just kinda work your
18:32
way down the Greek letters or something like that.
18:34
Like, I wonder if, like, the one who lords
18:36
over the TBA that gonna be king prime? Are we
18:38
not gonna be king prime till king
18:41
dynasty, you think? Probably
18:42
that makes sense. It's called
18:45
king dynasty. that's
18:46
like the ultimate king.
18:47
Right. The best Yeah. We've got to meet
18:50
king Prime in the in the king dynasty.
18:52
Though, like, I think there there is a chance that,
18:54
like, this TVA at the
18:55
end of Loki could be
18:57
what this came that we're seeing quantum media,
19:00
what he lost, and, like, what he's
19:02
trying to reclaim that like, I think that this is a
19:04
completely separate TVA ruling over a
19:06
completely separate multi verse,
19:08
whether it's the fox and multi verse or
19:10
whatever multi verse it
19:12
is. whatever. And I think that there there was a possibility
19:14
here that this king that we're seeing in Ant Man was
19:16
like, I got that shit
19:18
taken away from me and I
19:21
wanted back And so,
19:23
like, I just need you your help to
19:25
to to get what I want to get that
19:27
TBA back and maybe, like, the
19:29
TBA being ruled at the end
19:31
of Loki is secretly being run by Renslayer because
19:33
we see here we even so
19:36
I don't know. do
19:37
we I know that we don't
19:39
know what time time is
19:42
in in
19:42
Lokey, but do we know if
19:45
Loki,
19:46
the series is coming out
19:49
after Quantum Media?
19:51
Yeah. I think Loki is coming summer twenty
19:53
twenty three. could be that subtle little thing
19:55
that he he addresses a little
19:57
bit in Qantamania of, like, I was
19:59
dethroned, and I need to go back to my
20:02
TVA. And then that's where we can up where MT's pitch is
20:04
with rents later being in charge of the TVA. It
20:06
just
20:06
seems like someone that has a statue in
20:08
the TVA would
20:09
have more pull
20:11
on where they go and our
20:13
sense and, like, done. You know? because
20:15
it's, like, if
20:16
RenSler takes over, great. I would love that, but
20:18
I'm almost, like, man has a
20:20
statue. It seems like a lot of
20:22
people trying
20:22
to work for him. And you guys just kicked
20:24
him out. Yeah. I
20:25
think we're going to meet a
20:27
finite number of kinks. I think that's the way you do
20:29
it. Right? When you're trying to establish there's, like, you know,
20:31
there's seven evil ex boyfriends, there's seven
20:34
horcruxes we gotta find.
20:36
Like, to give ourselves a finite number. Like, he remains
20:38
was the exile. He didn't even go by King at
20:40
that point. He was, like,
20:42
the the weird guardian before
20:45
you go into the cave of wonders or
20:47
whatever. Like, you don't want to
20:49
go down this path. Here,
20:51
travel lies ahead. So,
20:53
like, he's kind of the mythological, like,
20:56
weirdo that kinda troll before
20:58
the bridge. On the other side of
21:00
the bridge, there's, like, seven obstacles. Right?
21:02
It's I imagine, like, named seven
21:05
k's. Like, the number seven is kind
21:07
of the the largest single digit
21:09
prime number. Right? Is that Correct.
21:11
Yeah. So that's probably why seven has
21:13
some kind of significance that we see
21:15
throughout mythology and religion and
21:17
fiction and everything. all three of
21:19
those words mean the same thing. But any who I
21:22
think the that,
21:24
like, numb named
21:26
seven k. And then the first kang we need is
21:28
in Qantamania. The second kang
21:30
we need is in Lokey season
21:32
two, and that leaves like a certain number of
21:34
kinks left that they have to foil in
21:36
in the move. the duration
21:38
of a of king
21:40
dynasty, but maybe there's like an an
21:42
alpha king, a king prime. Like, there could be four
21:44
in king dynasty, leaving one left over who's
21:46
like, yes, I've got you all together.
21:48
You're in battle world now motherfuckers fight
21:50
each other, secret wars, and that's how we get to
21:52
phase six. That's my thinking. Right.
21:54
Just give yourself a limited number.
21:56
I am really hoping that
21:59
I
21:59
forget his name, the dude from a a good
22:02
place that was just confirmed to be
22:04
in media. Oh, William Jackson Harper. Oh, yeah.
22:06
William Jackson Harper. Yes. I am
22:08
secretly hoping that he is a king
22:10
variant. The king variant, mister Griffin.
22:12
who owns King Tower in the
22:14
in the Marvel Comics. I would love for him
22:16
to play mister Griffin in some type of young
22:19
Avengers project I
22:21
just wanted to be a king variant so bad. As
22:23
soon as he got casted, everyone was, like,
22:25
putting their theories and I was, like, I hope he's just
22:27
a king variant. that looks different than the
22:30
other than Java majors. I would love
22:32
just I I want them to get to
22:34
variations where they don't look
22:36
like like,
22:36
how the locals didn't
22:37
look like Tom Hiddleston. So I'm, like,
22:39
yeah, I want to see that there's
22:41
ones that just don't look like
22:43
it. I kinda wanna see Kenan
22:45
Thompson as a k.
22:49
And Ken has been on SNL
22:51
for, like, twenty three years. And he's
22:53
just been running SNL. He's just running SNL. He got his
22:55
own show now. That's that's
22:58
his he's like,
22:58
I wanna take over SNL. I wanna be
23:01
SNL.
23:01
Okay. That was
23:03
so weird. What up we can't.
23:05
What up we can't.
23:09
Yo. Let's get a ketamine cane
23:11
going on. I would love the idea that
23:14
King.
23:14
It was like, in this universe, he was
23:16
like, yeah,
23:16
I can't wait to do what's up with that. and
23:18
then Black Jeopardy for, like, five years. What's
23:23
up? Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
23:26
Hello. What up with that? What
23:28
I'm gonna Yeah.
23:31
Yeah. I want like, this is something that
23:33
bugs me is, like, Castney directors
23:35
in Hollywood seem to place
23:37
this barrier between TV and
23:40
film. And certain actors are allowed to
23:42
be on film some actors are only allowed
23:44
to be in TV. Like, who's the guy from
23:46
the good place? Who plays Nick
23:49
in good place? We're forgetting everyone's name
23:51
from the good place. Right. They're not
23:53
the good place. I'm gonna just say
23:55
a a new girl. Jake
23:57
Johnson. So Jake Johnson.
23:59
My god. The so perfect
24:01
example. Jake Johnson is allowed to be
24:03
in TV. He's allowed to be in movies. They
24:05
made it a new version of Jake Johnson named
24:07
Oscar Isaac, who gets to be in movies. They're
24:09
the same person said, they have the same delivery I think they have
24:11
the same delivery. I think
24:14
Oscar Isaac I think Oscar Isaac and
24:16
Jake Johnson. Look exactly like
24:19
mine. You know her. No. No. No. Literally. They are the same human.
24:21
You mean, I mean, they get on the right person.
24:24
Talk to me again. Don't walk dogs.
24:26
Let me
24:28
look up. St. Johnson is kind of They
24:30
look exactly the same name of the same comedic
24:33
they have the same comedic comedic
24:35
speed. But Jake Johnson, I guarantee he wakes
24:37
up every day saying, you Oscar Isaac because
24:39
I can't be in movies because of but
24:43
hey, you Spider Man, so it's five. They both get to voice
24:45
characters in Spider Man. One plays
24:47
Miguel Hair, one plays -- He was
24:49
true. -- right? So but
24:51
he can invoice characters, but he's not allowed to be in movies. Like
24:53
that, you see, now Marvel TV has been
24:55
the saving grace for a lot of these.
24:58
because casting directors, like, alright, we can
25:00
put TV actors in these things so you get
25:02
like Katherine Hahn who gets to be with
25:04
movie stars. like like
25:06
Elizabeth Olson and Paul Bittney.
25:08
I don't know what the science is. I think they have
25:10
weird little compasses where they measure people's
25:12
facial proportions and they're
25:14
like, yes. this can be projected in IMAX. So we're allowed to
25:16
put their face but if you put, like, Tom Creutz
25:18
in a TV show, everyone's like, his face
25:20
is saying which, and his teeth are
25:22
misaligned. Like, think there's, like, a weird
25:24
science that tells cast actors that they can't
25:26
put TV actors on big screens for
25:28
whatever reason. Yep. Speaking of Jake Johnson
25:30
in quantum media, I kind of
25:32
hope he's in quantum I mean, he's not
25:35
confirmed for that at all. But I kind of hope he's
25:37
secretly in it as the
25:39
irredeemable ant man, Erica
25:42
Grady. I
25:42
feel like Jake Johnson would be so
25:44
good. That'd be one. Of just
25:46
like a really irresponsible ant man. He's just
25:48
like, you know, I don't have to use it to just,
25:50
you know, do do whatever I want.
25:52
You know, just really really fun.
25:55
So that'd be really cool. I don't
25:56
know. There's some weird
25:58
Fantastic. FT FAD casting over
26:00
here. MT FAD casting. My favorite
26:02
segment. I'm just kind of like spitballing for
26:04
a second here, which I do all the time,
26:06
especially late in these episodes of Insight
26:09
Marble, but I think I think these
26:10
the
26:11
MCU on Disney plus benefits from
26:14
having more TV actors because the
26:16
difference between film actors film actors
26:18
are like, I wanna know my character's beats,
26:20
the full arc. I wanna know where my
26:22
character is going and how history will end.
26:24
So you bring in these film actors and
26:26
then they're like, They're playing more subtle. They're thinking about the
26:28
big picture of the character. Whereas, then
26:30
you get Katherine Hahn in here, and she's a
26:32
TV actress. She can do whatever. She's like, just
26:35
gonna make the most of this moment and
26:37
create a moment for the DPE
26:39
so that they can, like, shoot the shot.
26:41
And then the other is, like, yeah. Sure. Great.
26:43
Like, I think TV actors are better at, like,
26:46
finding their mark, hitting their
26:48
mark, delivering something with a clean,
26:50
clear take that seems a little wacky,
26:52
and it isn't necessarily consistent with,
26:54
like, the full arc of a character. But who the f
26:56
carries? In the MCU, everything's
26:58
like a TV episode because, like, it's just setting
27:00
up the next thing. It's all about the cliffhanger. I think
27:02
that's when a lot of people well, not a lot of people,
27:04
some people gripe about the MCU is
27:07
that, like, doesn't have this kind of,
27:09
like, clear direction. It's just kinda going
27:11
play by play. It's more tactics, less
27:13
strategy. But I don't know. I'm enjoying the
27:15
ride. I don't care. true. It's just a this
27:17
is my argument to get more TV actors on
27:19
screen and less of these beautiful, model,
27:21
weird, boxface, high cheekbone
27:23
film actors. Yes.
27:25
Brah, I'm telling This we
27:27
should get Schmidt from New Girl to
27:31
play Bob the Hydra
27:33
Agent in Deadpool three. I think
27:35
that he would make a great Bob. If
27:38
you really find either Schmidt or
27:40
what's his face? The dude from
27:43
Always Sunny, a a Mac Charlie day. Would oh,
27:45
Mac have always shot Sunny.
27:47
He's, like, good friends with Ryan Reynolds. I think
27:49
he'd also make a good Bob.
27:51
from Heidrick, who is Deadpool's friend
27:54
in
27:54
the comics. So I think it'd be really fun.
27:56
Could you imagine those two together for the next
27:59
three years? It wasn't
27:59
so
27:59
familiar. and then you throw in
28:01
Hugh Jackman. Dude, it's Christ.
28:03
Who
28:03
has been better for the MCU? Christian
28:05
Bale or Katherine Hahn?
28:07
Just ask yourself that question. Christian Bill,
28:09
you guys gonna have an actor. He's an
28:11
amazing actor. Did he do anything for the
28:14
MCU and score the God butcher? No.
28:16
But Katherine Hahn, I wanna here in a million
28:18
more things. I do too. You'll come up there. I
28:20
can't get to your hands. I got
28:22
to those guys. guy.
28:25
He's got a hero car.
28:27
He says, there is no car. I
28:29
got the house. Sorry, miss. Fuck
28:32
me. he's a crazy person. He's a looney
28:34
tune, covin of chaos. Make
28:36
it
28:36
even worse. They just got Eric Andrey
28:38
and such as Amada who are
28:41
genuinely good actors when they're not
28:42
playing the craziest people on
28:45
TV. And I'm like, you guys just
28:47
keep getting comedic TV people and they're
28:49
very good, and I can't wait until this is the
28:50
best thing that comes. They're serviceable.
28:53
The camera chaos is probably gonna be
28:55
surprisingly funny. It's a lot simpler
28:57
than good.
28:57
A coven of witches with
28:59
Sashir Zamata,
29:00
and Aubrey Plaza seems
29:03
so fun. It
29:04
seems like it's an amazing show. Such
29:05
an SNL such an SNL episode.
29:08
Oh.
29:08
Ki n. Ki n. My show We felt
29:10
like we're pretty good.
29:13
Yes. I'm so excited. my
29:16
god. Where's the keyed in robot? We have a
29:18
camera robot. We need a keyed in
29:20
robot for S and L.
29:22
We'll leave it there for this episode of Inside
29:24
Marvel. Now haven't already be sure to watch Jessica's spoiler
29:26
free review of black people on
29:28
forever. And she had such an
29:30
amazing take on this film.
29:32
recommend you watch it. It's now up on the
29:34
channel. MT's explanation of the post credit scene
29:36
will be up on the channel tomorrow, and
29:38
then my introductory breakdown
29:40
will be up on the channel on Saturday. Three
29:42
of us are gonna spend a lot more time talking about
29:44
this film on next week's episodes.
29:46
Stay tuned for that. If you could follow me at
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New York. Sorry. Thank you so much for watching. And we'll see
29:56
you next week. Hi, everybody. Bye.
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