In this heart-wrenchingly personal episode, Ian tells the story of his relationship with his brother Paul and the moment that gave him an undeniable witness of God's love and mercy.

A Changing Church, and a Changed Conference Talk

11 days ago 1h 1m

Ian and Jim revisit Elder Ronald E. Poelman's infamous 1984 General Conference talk, which was altered and re-filmed after the fact. The talk serves as a model for how the Church deals with change and highlights the tension between the Church a

The Church and Suicide

22 days ago 1h 1m

Trigger warning!This episode focuses on the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with regard to suicide.

Jim Bennett in X-ile

29 days ago 1h 29m

Ian and Jim discuss the reasons Jim deactivated his Twitter account, as well as what bad behavior by Latter-day Saints online means for the Church as a whole.

April 2024 Conference Recap

Apr 10th, 2024 1h 2m

Ian and Jim review the highlights and lowlights of the latest General Conference and celebrate the long-awaited announcement of a new temple in Scotland.

A Musical Conversation with James Burnham

Apr 4th, 2024 1h 24m

Ian and Jim are joined by James Burnham, who shares his faith journey along with two lovely songs, one of which is an original James Burnham composition.

A Conversation with Bishop Graeme Stocks

Mar 28th, 2024 57m 46s

Ian and Jim speak with Graeme Stocks, who is currently serving as the bishop of the Dewsbury Ward in Yorkshire, England.

Musket Fire Revisited

Mar 21st, 2024 1h 3m

Ian and Jim discuss BYU's decision to bring Elder Holland's controversial "musket fire" talk out of mothballs and make it the subject of a new course for incoming freshmen.

A Conversation with Peter Bleakley

Mar 13th, 2024 1h 22m

Ian and Jim have a wide-ranging conversation with Peter Bleakley, one of the founding members of the Britvengers and a passionate advocate for reform in the Church.

The Kirtland Temple

Mar 8th, 2024 1h 7m

Ian and Jim discuss the sale of the Kirtland Temple and other historical sites and artifacts, and they try to get to the bottom of the century-old question: who is Elias?

Bob Bennett's Final Fireside

Mar 4th, 2024 1h 39m

This episode includes an AI-enhanced version of Senator Robert F. Bennett's fireside on The Book of Mormon given on April 10, 2016, three weeks before his death. Ian and Jim discuss the fireside and the impact of The Book of Mormon on the Churc

A Conversation with Anthony Miller

Feb 22nd, 2024 1h 7m

Ian and Jim have a conversation with Anthony Miller, a former Church member in a mixed-faith marriage who provided support for Ian during his own faith transition.

A Conversation with Roy and Emma Hann

Feb 15th, 2024 1h 26m

Ian and Jim have a conversation with Roy and Emma Hann, a couple who were stalwarts of the Church in Scotland for most of their lives. They describe their time in the Church and the events in their faith journey that led them and their thirteen

A Conversation with Hans Mattsson

Feb 8th, 2024 1h 30m

In a rare interview, former Area Authority Seventy Hans Mattson, a man that historian Greg Prince described as "the highest-ranking church official who has gone public with deep concerns" about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

Transgender Baptism

Feb 1st, 2024 1h 6m

Ian and Jim discuss a recent transgender baptism, as well as other developments that seem to signal greater LGBTQ inclusion in the Church.

A Conversation with Chelsea and Lorraine Goodrich

Jan 25th, 2024 1h 12m

Chelsea Goodrich, an integrative psychotherapist from Hailey, Idaho who was featured by the Associated Press for her compelling and heart-wrenching story of sexual abuse within the Church, returns to Inside Out to tell more of her harrowing sto

Aaron Sherinian and Things That Will Never, Ever, Ever Change

Jan 17th, 2024 1h 7m

Ian and Jim discuss the hiring of Aaron Sherinian as the Church's new Managing Director of Church Communications and what that means for the Church's position on LGBTQ rights.

A Trumpy Trial of Jim Bennett's Faith

Jan 10th, 2024 1h 11m

Ian supervises as Jim goes off on why Donald Trump is a massive trial of his personal faith.

A Conversation with Irene Gilmour

Jan 4th, 2024 1h 1m

Irene Gilmour, a former Latter-day Saint from Scotland, joins Ian and Jim to recount her experience in the Church, most notably a service mission she served in Costa Rica that went traumatically awry.

A Conversation with Chelsea Goodrich

Dec 29th, 2023 1h 16m

In their final episode of 2023, Ian and Jim have a groundbreaking conversation with Chelsea Goodrich, an integrative psychotherapist from Hailey, Idaho who was featured by the Associated Press for her compelling and heart-wrenching story of se

Sexual Abuse in the Church

Dec 19th, 2023 1h 4m

Ian and Jim confront the thorny issue of sexual abuse in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Patrick Kearon: Apostle

Dec 8th, 2023 56m 6s

Breaking news! Ian and Jim discuss the exciting announcement of Patrick Kearon as the newest member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.

The Incompatibility of Agency and Infallibility

Dec 2nd, 2023 1h 1m

Ian and Jim revisit the topic of prophetic infallibility and discuss the reasons why agency and infallibility are wholly incompatible.

Remembering M. Russell Ballard

Nov 25th, 2023 58m 52s

Ian and Jim go "straight through" the life of Elder M. Russell Ballard, sharing personal experiences with him and reviewing his complicated legacy.(The "straight through" thing is clever in context.)

A Robust Conversation with Les Cairns

Nov 17th, 2023 1h 11m

Ian and Jim are joined by Les Cairns, a Church leader in Scotland with a different perspective than George Stewart. The "robust" discussion focuses on Les's experience in the Church and the problems of the false doctrine of prophetic infallibi