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Now here's Baseball Hall of

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Parker.

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All right, welcome into the podcast. I'm your host,

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Rob Parker. What a show we have for

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you today.

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Former Major league catcher Alex Avila,

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who is also on MLB Network

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now, he joined us to talk about the postseason.

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Also Jared Carrobas, the

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host of Baseball Is Dead

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and name redacted MLB

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podcast on Draft Kings.

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So we'll do that and much more.

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Let's go better

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up to lead off, it's getting robbed

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and keep them on.

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Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories

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in Major League Baseball.

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I am not surprised at all that

0:59

the Astros are back into the series against

1:01

the Rangers. I'm really not. This

1:05

is a team that's won a couple of World Series.

1:07

They got players who have been through big

1:10

games and pressure situations. They could

1:12

not afford to fall behind three

1:15

to zero in this series against the Rangers.

1:17

And the other thing, too, is the law of averages.

1:20

If you've been following my podcast, you know I've been with

1:22

the Arrangers all year long, So

1:25

this is not like some Johnny come Lately jumping

1:27

on the bandwagon. I thought they were gonna

1:29

win the Al West outright, and they didn't

1:31

do it, but they still made the playoffs. They

1:34

won their first seven playoff

1:36

game six on the road,

1:39

Like who does that? Nobody? So

1:42

I knew that they were bound to

1:44

have a hiccup. And the same

1:47

thing with putting shures are in the pitch game

1:49

three on

1:51

Wednesday night, and he

1:53

hadn't pitched in a while, he got roughed up.

1:55

No surprise that the Astros jumped

1:58

on him with a three spot.

1:59

In the first stinning.

2:00

And that's basically what all it wrote.

2:03

So I'm not surprised. I'm not panicking.

2:05

I know some Ranger fans are like, oh my god,

2:07

oh the Astra's gonna come. Well, they're gonna win a

2:09

couple of games. You're not gonna win every game and sweep

2:12

all the way through the World Series. And

2:14

my old radio partner Mark Wilson used to always

2:17

say, you never like how you lose,

2:19

and he's right, it

2:21

could be one nothing you don't like it, or

2:23

it could be blown out twelve to two

2:25

and you still wouldn't like it. You just don't like it,

2:28

But it doesn't mean that anything's changed. So

2:31

I still like the Rangers. They can

2:33

win Game four, which

2:37

will be on Friday, they

2:39

will be in good shape. And

2:41

the only other thing we have left is

2:44

whether or not we're gonna get a series at all from

2:46

Arizona. This is Arizona

2:50

which lost the first two games in Philadelphia,

2:52

got slaughtered in Game two. Will

2:55

they bounce back on Thursday

2:58

in Game three at home front of their crowd.

3:00

They need to win desperately.

3:02

They can't fall behind three to zero,

3:05

So will they come out and fight? That

3:07

team has been amazing with the way that

3:09

they've knocked off Milwaukee,

3:11

swept Milwaukee swept the Dodgers,

3:14

you know, so this will be interesting to see what

3:16

Arizona Diamondbacks team

3:18

shows up. But I

3:21

hope that they can win so we can get a series.

3:23

I hope that both of these are a really good series

3:25

because there's been a lot of sweep so far during

3:28

the postseason, and that's unusual for baseball.

3:31

It feels like an NBA postseason, to be

3:33

honest. So here we

3:35

go Game three Thursday

3:38

night Arizona

3:41

hosting the Phillies, and then

3:43

Game four Friday

3:46

night with the

3:48

Rangers and the Astros.

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Here comes the big interview. Listen

3:54

and learn.

3:55

It's so good.

3:57

All right, now, let's welcome into the podcast Alex

3:59

Avia, of course, the former major league

4:01

catcher who is now

4:03

a analyst on MLB

4:06

Network. Alex, what's happening my man?

4:08

How are you doing? Great?

4:10

Rob? How you been? Man?

4:12

Man doing wonderful? You know, October

4:14

baseball doesn't get any

4:16

better than that. But I want to say that. Alex,

4:19

of course, was the Tigers

4:22

starting catcher, had a nice run

4:24

in Detroit twenty nine to twenty fifteen,

4:26

and then also played with the White Sox, the

4:29

Tigers again, the Cubs, the d Backs,

4:31

the Twins, and the Nationals.

4:33

But man, the playoffs.

4:35

Let's start here, Alex, with the American League

4:38

and the Astros and the

4:41

Rangers. Astros get back into

4:43

the series. After the Rangers

4:46

have been seven and zero in the postseason, they

4:48

win Game three. Now

4:51

they're down two games to one. What

4:53

did you make of the Astros, you know, with

4:55

their backs against the wall, really coming back

4:57

in Game three?

4:59

Well, I think lot of people expected

5:01

them to put up a fight. I mean, myself included,

5:04

I had a feeling, like

5:06

you know, going into that game that was like, obviously

5:09

to them, that was a must win game.

5:12

You know, the wildcard of that game.

5:14

Was obviously, you know what the Rangers

5:16

were gonna get out of Max. And I was

5:18

curious, like everybody else was. You

5:20

know, he hadn't pitched in over a month.

5:22

Coming off of a.

5:24

Pretty major injury, right which

5:26

I thought. I thought it was pretty remarkable that he

5:28

was even in a position that they were making decision

5:31

that he was going to be on the roster, not in pitch,

5:33

which you know, he's he's an animal.

5:35

But as good

5:37

as the Astros are.

5:40

I think a lot of people, including myself,

5:42

fully expected them to come out

5:45

and play the way they did yesterday.

5:47

They played well all year at Globe Life, and

5:52

you know, I don't know, for some reason, I just

5:54

had a feeling they were going to get back into it with the win.

5:56

And I said it from the beginning. I thought, this game,

5:58

this series is going to go seven anyways, So it's

6:00

two really really good baseball teams going

6:03

at it.

6:04

You know what everybody talks about. I've been with

6:06

the Rangers all year.

6:07

I picked them to win Alex the Division before

6:09

the season started. I loved the idea

6:11

that they got the Grom I know it didn't work

6:13

out. I love when they signed Simeon

6:16

and Seeger.

6:17

I love that.

6:18

You know, they went out spend a half a billion dollars

6:20

up the middle on two guys

6:22

who can rake, and then they got

6:24

some other young pieces with that team. When you go

6:27

get a Bruce Bochie been to if

6:29

he gets to the World Series, this would be the third franchise

6:31

he's been with the Padres, won

6:34

three with the Giants, and now he's here with

6:36

the Rangers.

6:37

So I liked a lot of things.

6:39

And I know people look at this Rangers team

6:41

and they think about, you know, thumpers

6:43

and hitting home runs and scoring

6:46

runs. But the pitching for Montgomery

6:49

and of all the has

6:52

been tremendous.

6:53

That's why they're where they are, isn't it no

6:56

doubt.

6:56

I Mean, their offense is done enough

6:58

to win games, but pitching has

7:00

give them the chance to do that. And

7:03

you know, the whole time going into these

7:05

playoffs, you.

7:07

Know, you know, you weren't sure where you were going.

7:09

To get them out of Montgomery over the Over the course

7:11

of the playoffs, he stepped up huge. Everyone

7:13

knew what Evaldi was about. In the playoffs,

7:15

it was just a matter of is he healthy,

7:18

and he proved that he's was healthy and

7:20

ready to go going into the playoffs. And

7:23

then obviously the biggest question was

7:25

the bullpen, which you know, and

7:28

the last few days some of the shows that

7:30

have been doing on MB network, I've been talking

7:32

about.

7:33

Like, look, these guys have been.

7:34

People have been talking about how they've they've

7:36

struggled as far as their bullpen all

7:38

year. And so some of those guys in

7:40

the back and that and that back end of the bullpen,

7:43

you know they're going to come out with the chip on the shoulder.

7:45

Was something to prove.

7:46

And sometimes you get guys that step

7:48

up that you don't really expect to step

7:50

up, like they've had with la Cleric. I

7:52

mean, he's been absolutely huge for him. At least it gives

7:55

Boaching not like that

7:57

that knowledge.

7:58

That hey, I got it.

7:59

I know I have a guy from the ninth inning, and

8:01

know who I got my starter and I can piece I

8:03

could piece together those in between middle

8:05

innings, middle of the late innings and and

8:08

and play those matchups that are favorable, you

8:10

know, uh for them.

8:12

Hey, let me let me say this when

8:14

we talk about pitching first,

8:17

If they the Rangers do make it to the World

8:19

Series, I do believe that

8:22

the turning point in

8:24

the series and the turning point for

8:26

them was when they've Aldi got

8:28

out of that basis loaded and nobody

8:30

out. Do you look at it like that, like

8:33

that that's the moment that

8:35

that could have collapsed. They they go back,

8:37

you know, it's one to one, Sadie Astros

8:39

win that game and then you you're

8:41

down two to one. Like that's how big

8:43

that turning point was. And and

8:45

you notice as a former catcher and

8:48

being in those situations that can spark

8:50

a team to get out of a basis loaded situation

8:52

like.

8:52

That, Oh no, no doubt that

8:55

those types of innings when your bases loaded, nobody

8:57

out, it's a momentum shift one way

8:59

or another, like a massive momentum

9:02

ship one way or the other. If you're the if

9:04

you're the team on defense and you're able,

9:06

you're.

9:06

Able to get out of that like like.

9:07

Evaldi did without allowing a run,

9:09

which is you know, pretty much

9:11

impossible. And those situations,

9:14

it's really difficult to do to be able to focus

9:17

on on that next pitch in order to put yourself

9:19

in a position to do that.

9:21

Uh. And then when you get out of that, the momentum

9:24

that that comes to.

9:25

Your side to be able to hold

9:28

them there is is incredible

9:31

and can carry you throughout the rest of the series.

9:33

And the same thing that on the flip side, like

9:35

with the Ashers, if they were able to break that game

9:37

open, like you said, I mean

9:40

that game, it ends up being one to one going

9:42

to Arlington, and it's a whole different series

9:46

as far as the way you're looking at uh,

9:49

looking at it from from the astrosk perspective,

9:52

that was that was one of the probably one of the biggest

9:54

innings so far of this series

9:56

for sure.

9:57

Absolutely guess as Alice Avila,

10:00

the former major league catcher who of course broke

10:03

in with the Detroit Tigers in two thousand and

10:05

nine and now is an analyst that MLB

10:08

Network does a great job and

10:10

was an All Star in twenty eleven. Let's

10:14

also look at the other series

10:17

and Alex, I love baseball, go.

10:19

To I don't know, seventy games a year.

10:21

I'm always at the park, but I'll tell you

10:23

this, that Philly crowd

10:25

and I know the scene that the series is shifting

10:27

in Arizona, but the crowd

10:29

in Philadelphia is unfreaking

10:32

believable to.

10:33

Stand up for nine innings and

10:35

how loud it is.

10:37

I know people just look at Philadelphia as a football

10:39

town, but don't tell me that's not a

10:41

baseball town.

10:43

Oh absolutely well. I mean you hit it

10:45

on the head there.

10:46

When I watch those games, like it gives me

10:48

goosebumps when they kind of pan the

10:51

entire stadium and you could hear the

10:53

crowd through the microphones on the field,

10:57

and I mean, I think it's

10:59

just like, I mean, they've taken the identity.

11:01

Well, I mean that team has taken the identity of

11:03

that city, and the city has responded

11:07

in a huge way to start, you know, from last year

11:09

to this year. And one thing like you

11:12

can see how the way the Phillies

11:14

have been playing, where they got so close last

11:16

year and it left the bad taste

11:18

in their mouth to where it's like, man, we were they

11:20

were right there. It was there for the taking for so many

11:23

of them to get like their first

11:25

crack, first shot out of the World Series. And the

11:28

same thing for the city like they were, you

11:30

know, dying for that, and they showed

11:32

up in droves last year obviously, and it

11:34

was an incredible atmosphere. So

11:36

going into this year you could almost you could almost

11:39

sense it going into the postings.

11:40

Is like, well, here we are again. We have another opportunity.

11:43

We're definitely not taking

11:45

this for granted and making sure like

11:48

we're going to make sure we give everything we have

11:50

in order to be able to achieve our goal. And

11:53

that's not just the team, it's almost like the city

11:55

is willing them to do that.

11:57

No, no doubt it is. I'm with you

11:59

with the goosebumps just watching the games.

12:01

I mean, I've seen atmospheres. I've covered

12:03

a lot of great games World Series.

12:05

I was at Shay Stadium in nineteen eighty

12:07

six for Bill Buckler's

12:10

game and the ball going through his legs.

12:12

I mean, I've been for a long time,

12:14

Alex, forty years, you know, and

12:17

watching the games in Philly are just mind

12:19

boggling to me.

12:20

Oh well, yeah,

12:23

well some people have asked me like, well, you know,

12:25

what's been like the craziest atmospheres

12:27

that we played in. We're going

12:29

through that run with Detroit and you know,

12:32

I always went back to, like Game one sixty

12:34

three in two thousand and nine in the Metrodome.

12:37

The last game there in the metro Dome was

12:40

absolutely bonkers that place. I

12:42

remember we had to use like our hot

12:44

signals to go down to the bullpen because you

12:46

couldn't hear the bullpen.

12:47

Phone it was so loud.

12:49

And then and then the two back to back

12:52

years that we had to play Oakland

12:56

going to the Coliseum. Now a lot's

12:58

been said about Oakland this year. Obviously,

13:01

you know it's a move and the fans and stuff like that,

13:03

But I tell people Oakland has some of the

13:05

best baseball fans I've

13:08

ever encountered, because those two series

13:10

was absolutely insane.

13:12

And I remember I was telling.

13:13

A story the other day one of the twenty

13:16

twelve series, Prince

13:18

Fielder in that Game five, his first st at bat, he struck

13:20

out, and he comes back to the dugout right,

13:23

and he's just yelling at it, yelling at

13:25

us, Hey, guys, it's so loud, I can't even

13:27

see the ball. Like we're all looking

13:30

at each other, like it's so loud,

13:32

I can't see the ball, Like one

13:35

sense is affecting the other sense.

13:38

That is incredible.

13:40

Absolutely the one guy I want

13:42

to give one last thing on Philadelphia

13:44

and Rice

13:47

Harper. You know what,

13:50

Brice Harper? You

13:52

know, not everybody this guy was on

13:55

YouTube with the home runs. You remember all

13:57

that stuff, Alex like, oh yeah, it was

13:59

big time.

14:00

I'm in.

14:01

This guy has has come full circle

14:03

and not everybody always achieves that. You think

14:05

someone's a child prodigy and he's going to be this

14:07

and be that, but man, he is

14:09

that dude for the Phillies.

14:12

And he's also I

14:14

love the way he plays. He's

14:16

he gets big home runs and big moments.

14:20

I mean, how could you not be

14:22

a Bryce Harper guy if you love baseball?

14:26

No, I agree with you hundred percent.

14:27

And I've actually had conversations

14:29

about this, like with just friends

14:31

of.

14:31

Mine that are not in the game.

14:33

They're just you know, fans of the game, and they

14:35

asked me about Harper all the time

14:37

because he is kind of like that polarizing

14:40

figure.

14:40

Like there's some people that.

14:41

Absolutely love him, there's some people

14:43

that can't stand him. And for me,

14:46

it's always like the argument of how do you not

14:48

love this guy? Because you know,

14:50

here's a guy and partly is

14:52

like as a former player. You know, the kind

14:54

of pressure you have to perform

14:57

now now think about it, like

14:59

almost ten unfold For a guy like Harper, he's

15:01

had that pressure since he was like sixteen,

15:05

and you know, you know, from

15:07

from an early age having to come up and be able

15:09

to perform to the level and fulfill

15:13

kind of like those expectations. And the other thing

15:15

about it, he doesn't shy away from it either. You

15:18

know, a lot of guys end up kind

15:20

of going into a shell because of those types

15:22

of expectations, and he doesn't.

15:24

He's embraced it, you know, he's

15:27

and he's and once he's signed in Philadelphia,

15:29

he's embraced that city. He's kind of he's thrown his

15:31

whole heart into

15:33

that city and being a part of that

15:35

place. And like you said, it's it's

15:38

hard not to watch that guy in root for him

15:40

and be a fan of him. I certainly am.

15:42

I know, my my interactions with him, playing against

15:45

him, you know, I

15:47

have tremendous amount of respect for him and the

15:49

way he goes abouts.

15:50

No doubt. His name is Alice Avila. Check

15:53

him out on MLB Network. What

15:56

is analysis? Great stuff, Alex.

15:58

I always appreciate you, my man, Thank you

16:00

so much for dropping.

16:01

By absolutely Rob anytime

16:04

man.

16:05

When Rob was a newspaper columnist,

16:07

he lived by this motto, if

16:09

I'm writing, I'm ripping, Let's

16:12

bring in a writer or broadcaster, old

16:14

or new.

16:15

All right, now, let's welcome into the podcast Jared

16:17

Carobas He is the host

16:20

of Baseball Is Dead and

16:23

the Name redacted MLB

16:26

podcast for DraftKings.

16:29

First of all, I love the Baseball

16:31

is Dead name of

16:34

your podcast. Tell me let's just start

16:36

right there.

16:36

Thanks for joining us here on Inside the Parker, But

16:39

tell me about Baseball is Dead.

16:41

So I

16:44

would be very resistant to all

16:47

the people that would suggest that it's boring

16:49

the baseball is dead, and it

16:51

would just become very annoying. And then every

16:53

single year you would see the

16:55

revenue would go up, you would see

16:58

the attendance would go up, the ratings would

17:00

go up. So we're kind of just mocking those

17:02

people that say

17:05

those things. It's me Dallas Braden, who

17:07

you're probably familiar with Perfect Game

17:11

Justin Haven's used to be Baseball Tonight

17:13

producer. And then this kid

17:15

Joey who runs the Baseball

17:18

Doesn't Exist YouTube channel and it has

17:20

over five hundred thousand subscribers,

17:22

so it's kind of just a melting pot of different

17:25

baseball brains. And yeah,

17:28

during the season, we'll put out like three episodes a week,

17:30

and it's a lot of fun.

17:31

No doubt.

17:32

And I've been banging that

17:34

drum left and right because

17:37

it's the big like the story

17:40

of people not being in the baseball

17:42

And I can always tell people who haven't gone to

17:44

the ballpark because they say, oh, only

17:46

fifty and sixty year old guys go to baseball,

17:48

And I'm like, too, you just haven't been to a game

17:51

because I see the college kids.

17:53

I see all the kids at the park.

17:54

I go to, I don't know, sixty

17:57

seventy games a year, you know what I mean.

17:59

So I know, oh, and I know

18:01

they're out there. And when you try to tell

18:03

people that baseball's attendance

18:05

Jarrett is seventy million,

18:08

which is more than all the other leagues combined,

18:10

people look at you like you're crazy.

18:12

Right.

18:13

Did you see the clip that's been going viral today.

18:15

It's the two I don't I don't follow football.

18:18

I know I'm crazy for that, but I think

18:20

it's two dudes from the Eagles that went

18:22

to the Phillies d Backs

18:24

game. They were sitting front row. It

18:26

was their first baseball game, and by

18:28

the end of it they were like, this is the best, Like

18:30

I'm having an awesome time. And I

18:32

think it's a great advertisement

18:35

for the game, especially the

18:37

Phillies being as good as they are. I

18:39

think is great for baseball because those crowds

18:41

are awesome. I don't know if you've had a chance to

18:43

go to the bank for a playoff game in the last

18:46

couple of years, it is loud.

18:48

It is loud.

18:49

And if you're a sports fan

18:52

and the Seagles Phillies fans standing

18:55

and the same thing when the Twins

18:57

were in the playoffs. Did you see the crowd in Minneapolis.

19:00

I mean, yeah, it's just phenomenal.

19:03

And so when people tell me that all people

19:05

don't care about baseball and this and that, it's just it's

19:07

it's a narrative that got out

19:09

there, and I get

19:11

it. Part of it is the

19:14

NFL machine, which

19:17

is centered around gambling.

19:18

You know, like like.

19:19

This is when baseball and football

19:22

separated, was when the

19:24

fantasy leagues which are centered around

19:26

gambling. Okay, you can say

19:28

whatever you want. There are a ton of bad

19:30

NFL games. I covered the Lions for twenty

19:33

years. Trust me, I've been to bad

19:35

venues. Remember they used to have the blackouts

19:37

in the NFL. They had to lift those because they

19:39

can't sell the stadiums out.

19:41

People don't.

19:42

They'd rather watch not their

19:45

team, but everybody else because they have money

19:47

on it or they have you know what I mean, fantasy players.

19:49

Yep.

19:50

Yeah, it's and that's why I think like

19:52

baseball is kind of making a little bit of a

19:54

comeback in that space because it's every day, you

19:57

know. It's like you take a bad loss

19:59

on a way Wednesday, guess what, You're right back at

20:01

it on Thursday and you can shake it off. So I've

20:04

had a lot of fun with it. I've been

20:06

doing parlays this year, which is not something

20:08

that I was normally doing in years past.

20:11

It's fun, Like I think we so we'll

20:14

do like a parlay on our podcast

20:16

where each host picks

20:18

a different leg. So we'll put out like a

20:20

four leg parlay on a Monday, and like all,

20:22

like the listeners of the show, they all

20:25

ride with it, and it's like if we lose together,

20:27

we went together.

20:28

Like it's a lot of fun. I really enjoy it.

20:30

I love it too.

20:31

I do a thing called Shekel City on the odd

20:33

couple every night, and so same

20:35

same kind of thing.

20:36

So last night I had a two leg parlay.

20:39

I had the Astros plus one and a half

20:41

runs, and I had the over nine runs, and

20:44

and and the range. I've been rolling with the Rangers

20:46

all year. I picked them to win the division.

20:49

I like what they did. I liked the Simon and

20:52

Seagurts signing. I love that they

20:54

went out the Grama didn't work out, but

20:56

I love that they were aggressive and trying to

20:58

change what they were doing. That and they

21:00

got a beautiful stadium, you know. And

21:04

and last night they had was seven to

21:06

zero. Right in the postseason,

21:08

they're gonna lose a game. And sure, as I hadn't

21:10

pitched for a while, was like, and the Astros

21:12

were fighting for their lives. I would bet I would

21:14

have bet my life savings that the Astros won

21:16

last night. Not that I'm against the Rangers,

21:18

but you know what I mean, Like everything stacked

21:21

up for the Astros to win that game.

21:23

I'm one hundred percent with you. I've been with the Rangers

21:25

the whole way.

21:27

We kind of made like a little bit of a bit out

21:29

of it, like I'm rocking the cowboy hat

21:31

during the shows and everything, and

21:34

I think, you know, last night was one

21:36

of those games where postseason experience

21:38

matters, Like the Houston astrosk

21:40

new we can't go down three

21:43

to zero. I know, I've seen the statistics about

21:45

no team has ever come back

21:47

after losing the first two games at home

21:50

in an LCS.

21:51

That to me is surprising.

21:53

And if there were any team that was gonna

21:55

make that be an obsolete statistic,

21:57

it was gonna be this Houston Astros team on the run

22:00

that they've been on the last seven years being in

22:02

the League Championship Series. But you

22:05

know, I think it last

22:07

night had the potential certainly to

22:10

be that feel good story of

22:12

you know, the Astros have been there for seven straight

22:15

years, but here come to Texas Rangers.

22:17

They take the first two games

22:19

in Houston, they go back home.

22:21

Max Schurzer hasn't pitched since September

22:24

twelfth. Here he comes to

22:27

make it three to zero, and it just didn't work out that

22:29

way. But it, like, like you said, it's the least

22:31

surprising of the results.

22:33

Absolutely, And you

22:35

know, I was on an MLB network

22:37

with Brian Kennedy the other day and we debated,

22:40

and I'm just curious where you are

22:43

on this, and I just said, if

22:45

I'm looking at managers, I'm

22:47

going to take Bruce Bochie over

22:50

Joe Tory. And he went ballistical

22:52

on me, because of course Joe Tory won five championships,

22:56

right yeah, And I said,

22:58

it's not that Joe

23:01

did anything wrong. I said, but when you're

23:03

Bruce Bochie and you went, I said,

23:05

if he goes to the World Series, he has to get there.

23:08

But I said, I always look at coaches and

23:10

managers like this. He

23:13

went to the World Series with the Padres.

23:15

He won the three in San Francisco, and note

23:17

would be his third organization where

23:19

he's going to a World

23:22

Series if he gets there, and you got

23:24

to start to give that guy some credit

23:26

when you do it in different places. Tory

23:28

didn't have, you know, he went to the playoffs with the Braves.

23:31

You know, he managed the Mets, you know, but he really

23:33

when he got to the Yankees, and you still have to

23:36

manage him. And I give him credit, but

23:38

I always look at it the same way like Bill

23:40

Parcells.

23:41

Bill Parcells he won the two Super Bowls

23:43

with the Giants. But if you really look at

23:45

his career, some

23:48

of the other jobs he did. He took the

23:50

Patriots to the Super Bowl. The Jets

23:52

were one in fifteen.

23:53

He took them to the AFC Championship Game

23:55

like two years later, and he won

23:58

in Dallas. And when I look at coaches

24:01

and managers, that's what I look at.

24:02

Can you win in more than one place? Is that

24:05

a fair argument?

24:06

I think If there's a secondary

24:09

argument to that, it's that Bochie

24:12

did more with less.

24:14

Like some of those Giants teams were wild card teams.

24:16

They were Yeah, you look

24:19

at like those Yankee teams of the nineties,

24:21

those were plug and play that you talk about

24:23

that they could have won seven.

24:24

World Series to be honest, right right,

24:27

a couple of pitches here and there, they could

24:29

have won seven exactly.

24:31

Like that was a that was a plug and play

24:33

type era.

24:34

I mean, they had outside of the what

24:36

two thousand and one Seattle Mariners if you

24:38

include the postseason, that they have like the winningest

24:40

team in baseball history during that run.

24:43

So, I mean it's not to say that you know Joe

24:45

Torret, I mean, Joe Torrey is one of the greats of all time. But

24:47

if you look at Bruce Bochie's body of work,

24:49

to be able to do it in multiple organizations

24:52

and to be able to do it like the even

24:56

year thing where it's ten, twelve, fourteen

24:58

doing it.

24:59

They don't get me wrong.

25:00

You have some some big talent there, like the

25:03

Tim Linscomb's of the World mad bum, the

25:05

postseason run that he had, But

25:08

you're not You're not looking around being like, wow, we

25:11

are littered with Hall of famers

25:13

like that. That was not a thing in San

25:15

Francisco. A lot of good talent for

25:17

the time, but we're not talking about like all

25:20

time talent.

25:22

So give me this.

25:23

Our guests Jared Carrobas He

25:25

is the host of Baseball Is Dead

25:27

and the Name redacted MLB

25:30

podcast for DraftKings, and uh

25:34

the with the team. We haven't talked to

25:36

the Arizona Diamondbacks, which I

25:39

didn't. I remember they scuffled to get into the

25:41

playoffs and then they

25:43

the thing that they had was comeback ability.

25:45

They lost. I remember the first two games in Milwaukee

25:48

when he swept the brew was down three nothing, down

25:50

to nothing, won both of those games, swept that

25:52

series. They have that.

25:55

You know, the Phillies look like they're just too hard

25:58

to be able to overcome. But what about the run

26:00

up the Diamondbacks and going forward

26:02

because they have some good young players on that team.

26:05

They do.

26:05

Yeah, I mean like Zach Gallen,

26:08

Merril Kelly at the top of the rotation there,

26:11

even like a kid like Brandon

26:13

Fott who's going in Game three. He

26:16

didn't have a tremendous season, but

26:18

he's going to be one of those young pieces

26:20

moving forward that is excited that you should

26:22

be excited about.

26:23

Gorbyn Carroll.

26:24

Every so often we see a

26:27

Rookie of the Year race where it's

26:29

like, don't contain this guy to just the

26:31

Rookie of the Year award, Like he should be in the MVP conversation,

26:34

and I think he will be.

26:35

Do I think that he'll win it? No, But like the fact that

26:37

he'll get MVP votes is pretty.

26:38

Crazy for a kid his age, with

26:41

his experience in the big leagues. But

26:45

when talking about the d Backs in this series

26:47

against Philadelphia, I

26:50

think that some d Backs fans were

26:52

demanding respect when it's like, oh, man,

26:55

like give us the credit that we got there.

26:56

It's like yeah, But at the end of the.

26:58

Day, this final four,

27:00

these final four teams. It's

27:02

the fewest wins ever in

27:04

an MLB postseason for a Final four,

27:07

and I kind of look at this d Backs

27:10

team is you know, I'm glad that

27:12

the fans got that exciting

27:15

comeback against Milwaukee and

27:17

the I think they exposed

27:20

the Dodgers as Hey, we won one

27:22

hundred and one games, but we've got a larger

27:24

problem here in terms of roster construction

27:26

and how we should be prepared for the postseason.

27:29

Pardon me as a fan wishes

27:31

that the Phillies had a more exciting

27:34

opponent, like they're just gonna roll to the

27:36

World Series.

27:37

I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

27:39

Like we we kind of got cheated, cheated,

27:42

Like.

27:43

Have you been have you been entertained?

27:45

Really this post?

27:46

Like, I think it's been fun to watch the Phillies,

27:48

but it's almost like when they're not like now

27:51

now they're gonna go back to Arizona. The fun

27:53

part about watching the Phillies is watching

27:55

them play in Philly. You know, like now we're

27:57

going to Arizona. It's like, all right, get it

27:59

over with, Like, just win the next two and

28:01

we'll see in the World Series.

28:03

Yeah, that's what that's what it kind of feels

28:05

like last thing. Uh.

28:07

So you have Phillies and

28:09

in the al or Astros come back.

28:12

You said you've been rolling with the Rangers. I have I

28:14

have Rangers.

28:15

I have Rangers and Braves when

28:17

the playoffs started in the World Series.

28:19

So I'm gonna go with the Rangers, and I'm gonna

28:22

go with them to pull the incredible

28:24

upset.

28:25

Okay, I have Rangers

28:27

and six in the ALCS, I

28:29

think I went Phillies in five.

28:32

Okay, that's a good. Yeah.

28:34

So I think what we're gonna see, I'll

28:37

if it ends up being that matchup, I'll

28:39

go Phillies and six over the Rangers.

28:42

There you go, man, I appreciate

28:44

it. This was fun. Jared Uh.

28:48

Your shows the names the host of Baseball

28:51

is Dead and name

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redacted MLB podcasts

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for DraftKings and check them out, Jared Uh

29:00

Jered Carrobbas make sure you check them out

29:03

and check in on both of his podcasts.

29:05

Thanks my man for joining us. I appreciate

29:07

you so much.

29:08

I really appreciate you having me. We'll do this again

29:10

real soon.

29:17

In the words of New York TV legend

29:19

the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you

29:22

for your time this time until next time.

29:24

Rob Parker out d Cad

29:26

Davin.

29:27

This could be an inside the Parker.

29:29

See you next week, same bat time from

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same Matt station