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Hi, I am Sylvia Moss and this is Insight a presentation of iHeartMedia where
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we really do care about our local communities and all of our listeners who live
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here. Perseverance through adversity and collaboration over competition are part of the mantra that
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have inspired my guests to engage our local communities in an effort to help them
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move forward. As a founder of Layers and little Layers of Black History,
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Corey Dupree is responsible for many successful educational platforms and events that focus on literacy
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and the contribution of those of color. Within the last year or so,
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maybe two years, this is what he's been up to. Just here in
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central Pennsylvania, Corey has been able to provide books for three hundred fifteen well
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actually three hundred and fifteen books in the Paul Myra School District where he was
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just recently hired as a teacher, right, Okay, that's cool. Fifty
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books to Stilton HIGHSPA, four hundred books to Harrisburg, thirteen hundred and twenty
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five books to kids and individuals while serving at some of his and it's three
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hundred books to free libraries in Paulmyern and Harrisburg and he's also been able to
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provide scholarships secondary scholarships for kids. Today, you're going to learn about an
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event that he's going to have next month that demonstrates what I've been talking about
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every time Corey comes in here, his dedication commitment to social emotional professional development
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with young kids, especially young kids of color in our area. And by
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the way, how you doing. I'm going good. I'm going good.
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Always a pleasure back like I never left. You know what. I love
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it when you commit, as I say, every time you come in, you don't walk out that door with some sort of inspiration left behind. Next
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month, you're having a conference called Men Raising Black Boys and it's powered by
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black men heel. It's on Saturday Now listen Saturday, May eighteenth, from
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eight thirty to five thirty at Harrisburg University. It's about the impact of fatherhood,
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mentorship, and empowerment on their black sons. I got to express my
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ignorance because you and I were talking about something it's very similar off my before
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we started this program, and I got to tell you, I'm a white
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woman. I was fortunate enough when my son was growing up to be able
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to stay home and raise them. My husband was away on business trips quite
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often. But personally, no matter what the issue is, I've always felt
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that unless I've walked in somebody else's shoes, I have no right to tell
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somebody what to do. But my research on black men raising black sense has
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given me all kinds of issues. I mean, all kinds of answers.
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One said that there are more black men pretty much. How can I say
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this? They're more involved in their lives than exactly now. You grew up
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in Massachusetts, came down here where you were raised by your grandma, who
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was tough but amazing. He told me about lots of times, but you
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went to Milton Hershey, I want to talk about since you've been here and
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up to the point where now you've got your own children and you're out in
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the community, you're talking to other black fathers, why do they talk about,
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why do they have a hard time talking to their sons, and why
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is a conference like this necessary for them? So I'm gonna go ahead and
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just pause just because there's the common misconception. So the title is men raising
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Black boys. Okay, So even like everybody and I love this, everybody
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thinks that only black and brown men are raising black and brown boys when in
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reality, there are foster fathers, there are adopted fathers. There's a conversation
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which doctor Kevana Nixon I will be highlighting called social fathers. So there are
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coaches, they are religious reverend like figures, individuals who aren't biologically related,
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but they play a role teachers, educators, and those people come in all
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different colors, right, So that's why this is important. My biological father
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is black. My father many father figures, however, varied. So my
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big brother from Big Brother Big Sister program, Todd, he and I met
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when I was seven and he was twenty four, and he's a white man,
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and you're still real tight with that. That's my dog. Yeah,
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that's my man's. But when we talk about conversations, I volunteer at Davis
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Dog Farm and it's a really great mission. Won't dive too deep into it,
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but for background in context. The husband and wife that owner, Brian
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and Janet, they have two adopted black boys, and they're older, their
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kids want to believe lower Dolphin but from school in Central Pennsylvania, So we
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were able to sit down and just have conversations about what challenges they might have
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had, whether that's something as simple as what barbershop to go to? Like
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where do you go ahead and get your hair twisted? How do you go
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ahead and have conversations related to race? Why if you do have an adopted
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family and one child is biologically white and the other ones black or brown?
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How do you have those conversations that there are differences? Where all right?
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When you're on when with your black son? How do you handle a police
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stop right with your black son? How do you handle not having a hoodie
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on inside the store with your black son? Or if you're a coach you
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have a social responsibility to the black boys on your football team, how do
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you there's a lot of stereo time, correct, it's a lot of stereotypes.
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It's really about breaking down those stereotypes. And I sat back and realized
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that me myself, I had my son when I was twenty three. I
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don't know what the hell I was doing, right. I knew, however,
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that my uncle who would raise me, my big brother Todd, even
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like my biological father, they imparted lessons on me. My coach's house father
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from millen Hershey, so so many different men who are involved in my life
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taught me what it actually means to be a holistic man. Right, I'm
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still constantly evolving and learning. But when you have a child at twenty three,
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that's completely different than thirty three. Right. If I would have at
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financial stability, right, that the converse and education that you're able to have.
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Like my kids when we started, when COVID kicked off, we started
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conversations about stocks. Kids were like all right now all the time, like
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how my stock's doing, How my stock's doing? Right? Never once,
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growing up did I learn one thing about stocks. My biological father taught me
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to survive the street. Todd taught me because he was in Wall Street of
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Boston, how to go ahead and navigate different worlds and taught me, for
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lack of better words, him as well as my uncle, who was a
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gay black man, He had to live in multiple worlds, right, how
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to blend in as well as standout. Will always be unapologetically you, and
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always advocate for others. So that's why we am having this conference and partnering
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with Black Men Heel, which is an amazing nonprofit based out of Philly that
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provides free mental health and therapy services to black men and black boys in twelve
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different states. Wow, So this we wanted to start here in Harrisburg because
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it's the state capital, but also being extremely intentional, we're at Harrisburg University.
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Some people have never been to a college campus, let alone to a
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conference, so why not provide that opportunity. Every state has a college campus,
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right, So it's just as we grow in scale and we go to
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different areas, the conference is just only one small piece or component to what
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we're going to be doing because there's follow up and we'll get to that.
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But like I said, I just wanted to just break down that stereotype that
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only black and brown men are raising black and brown boys. Yeah, this
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conference is for everybody, So I want to go ahead and get that out.
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How can you find out about the storting station Black men Hill? So
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I was connected with them in twenty twenty, As you can imagine, everybody's
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mental health came to a peak or was climbing up as COVID was ravaging.
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But Alfonso, who you met Fons, does a lot of work with them,
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serves within their therapy network and he connected me with Taznim So with Taz
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and we hit it off and it was super dope because we connected virtually like
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everybody like in twenty twenty and then we met for the first time the first
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week in March in person, so three years we had only done texting.
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You told me about this a year two ago and I'm like, Corey Wyan,
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Corey wyn and I told you. I was like, I couldn't drop it yet so I could go in and give you some breadcrumbs. Well,
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here we are. Who is it open to this conference that you talked about
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these different people in your lives. Who do you expect to be coming and
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who do you want to come? Yeah, So we've been blessed to have
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great partnerships. And those partnerships include partnering with Big Brothers, Big Sisters perfect
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and you know that means a lot to me, but also includes partnering with
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Downtown Daily Bread right people think the house's population or unhoused population, some of
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those gentlemen of Fathers Right. So having a partnership and being thankful enough to
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have them as a sponsor, the Hershey Company, knowing how they are inside
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their community and their black resource groups that they provide, the fraternities right,
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the Divine Nine Black Fraternities and sororities, making sure that we're tapped in connected
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with them, the foster care agencies, the adoption agencies, coaches. Right,
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I genuinely, legitimately mean anybody who believes that they play a significant role,
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and even if you don't. Right. I was speaking to a friend
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of mine who said, I'm white, I'm not raising a black boy. I was like, but you do mentor these boys, right, Like Dan,
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You're right, So you have to understand that your lives are different.
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Right, And we get that, we embrace that first, we get that
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out the way. Now, how do we go ahead and uplift and enrich
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the next generation of black and brown boys? And you know what, you
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are crusader for empathy. You want us, you want everybody to understand how
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other people feel it because, like I said at the top of the program,
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that's how I feel. I'm not going to judge somebody I didn't live
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that life. Okay, we've talked about when it is, it's you're what
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they're going to it's a three panel discussion. But before we get into the
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whole day's events and what's going on is sort of what our whistles. So
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people are interested in this. Let me ask you this first of all,
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the conference is if you could break it down into specific areas, what would
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what topics would it address? So as we go ahead and get the day
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kicked off, start, we've got to feed the people, right, So
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go ahead and just have a light, fair breakfast, and there's going to
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be a welcome in an intro. Keynote is going to be my man Marcus,
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who's actually coming in from DC and extremely blessed to have him. He
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is a former first round draft pick of the Philadelphia Egos in twenty fourteen.
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He's going to get us kicked off with the conversation centered around mental health and
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athletes, right because in Central Pennsylvania, athletics are so big, so being
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able to go and even partner with, like I said, some of these coaching organizations. Well, yeah, pardon me for interrupting. You're talking about
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athletes. Do you think I mean there were first we're finally starting to get
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it about even Julie Walker with her what she's doing with cardiac arrest and young
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athletes. Is this something that we should be addressing mental health when these kids
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are little like this? Absolutely, I think that when we discuss mental health,
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we always think it's just therapy when you're one on one inside of an
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office, right. But therapy to me is I'm at the barbershop, right
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and I'm talking to my barber, and those are other individuals who should be at this conference, right, like building a full community. Like for me,
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I literally drove three hours to go to DC for a Black Fatherhood event.
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Now. It's run by an organization called the Dad Gang, and I've
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been following them for years and they were like, hey, we're having this
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event at a coworking space. I was like, I'm pulling up right, So I drove the three hours and then that's where I was able to go
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and meet Marcus at that same event and just building out that community across because
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we yearned for that, but us as men were just so damn stubborn and
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we think that we can go ahead and figure things out ourselves. But you
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know me, collaboration over competition. So we're going to start the day off
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with some panels or the panels are going to be focused on bridging the generational
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communication gap. Me as an educator of the kids use words every day that
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I'm just and the village mentality. So the importance of trusted role models,
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so mentors, coaches, and educators, and we even have my brother who's
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coming up from DC who is who has just awarded the DC Teacher at Washington
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DC Teacher for the year, So we have it's a star studied lineup for
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panelists and speakers and then crucial conversations, So conversations that would truly shape your
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son's future is extremely important. So whether that's consent, whether it's going to
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be how to handle situations when it comes to race and racism, right,
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what does some of those things look like. And then we'll get into breakout
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sessions and we're going to have a mental health conversation, social and emotional learning
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as well as fatherhood and finances, so we could sit down and talk about
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financial conversations and that will be followed up with lunch and networking. So we'll
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have the catered lunch, which is going to be bombed super I'm hungry right now. Yeah, So we're gonna have the catered lunch, and at that
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lunch break, we're going to have different vendors where the men can walk around
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and network and just learn a little bit more about community resources that are out
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there and that exists so it's important that you walk away with something. And
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then the breakout session, too will be letters to your son and letters to
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your father. So Alfonso Nathan Fons of Therapy is going to be spearheading that
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where you were going to go ahead and write a letter to your son or
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a letter to your boys, or to your team or whoever that black or
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brown boy is inside of your life to me, and that's that's honestly,
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it would be personal. What would you say? What would I say to
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my son? I would go ahead and talk about my growth from when he
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was born to now, and then how much more I still have left to
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go, and how I wish I could shield him from some of the ugly
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things in this world. But at the same time, those ugly things,
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those scars they're going to heal. Right, wounds are gonna heal, and
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those scars are gonna go ahead and be tough. Yeah, So that's part
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of what my lesson. Then there's a lesson to the letter to my father.
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What that would look like? But mediation, self evaluation, conversations,
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relationship with self? What is that relationship with self? So truly being comfortable
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to understand who you are? Right if you're going through a time. And
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let's just say I think about my uncle and that the individuals who'll be leading
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that workshop is actually going to be super dope with doctor Tony Keith and the
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hip hop at MC. Doctor Tony ke is a big brother of mine,
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mentor, and he is a gay black man, and he wrote a book
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memoir called How the Boogeyman Became a Poet and it's like nationally acclaimed, it's
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blowing up, it's amazing. He's on tour right now. And he spoke
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throughout that whole book about his formative high school years for what that was like
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for him, and it's I can't imagine all written in poetry in verse.
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So it's a true story. And I think about me growing up and how
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I've had to be a chameleon, right, and how I've had to especially
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in Central Pennsylvania. I am. I'll look around. I was in a
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training a couple of weeks ago of two hundred and forty seven district employees and
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I'm the only black person in the room. Right to me, cool,
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But now I always try and get these get everybody to be comfortable with being
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uncomfortable. It doesn't leave me to be uncomfortable because I've learned to blend and be a chameleon. However, I stress, and I tell people who are
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big brothers, big sisters, mentors or adoptive fathers, put yourself in a
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position to where you can be the minority. Yeah, right, and don't
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put yourself like mentally physically place yourself in a position go to it to Juneteenth
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events, right, make sure you're going to an HBCU. Make sure you're
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going ahead and you're at these community events within your specific community. That's how
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your child or those boys are able to go ahead and feel empowered. So
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that's that relationship with self. And then we talk about why do our boys
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need mentorship? Why do you think I think that's an absolute positive thing.
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I think about what my big brother Todd has been able to go ahead and
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do for me, from opening doors in spaces of internships, from exposure to
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experiential learning. Every summer we go to Martha's Vineyard. I'm like, took
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a boy from the hood of Martha's Vineyard. I'm like, this is crazy,
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but in hindsight, and he's just provided the opportunity for me to be
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exposed to so much and has just been a support system to my kids.
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That's our uncle Todd to like his kids, I'm Uncle Corey. I think
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mentorship can be viewed in so many different ways, and it's extremely important.
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So one of our good brothers, Quasia Broqua, is a big brother from
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big brother, big sister, but he's also in the Divine nine who's in
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the frats and mentorship is a big pillar of who they are. So he'll
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be speaking about that and about why that's important. And you just have to
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have somebody at that community to lean on. Well then a lot even in
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the white kids, a lot of dad's on the round yep, you know,
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and it's tough. You also are going to be talking about social father
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what is the social father? So doctor Kevan and Nixon is a godsend right
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now, she's in Japan, I believe, speaking at a mental health conference,
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but she is going to be our professional in that lens as it comes
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to social fathers. So I believe she did her dissertation final presentation on individuals
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who aren't biologically the father because in her research and what she noticed, because
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she has a practice in Philadelphia that moms are bringing the parents and the kids,
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but no fathers were coming, whether they were invited or not, they just weren't an attendant to the family therapy sessions. So when if a father
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wasn't present, or if a father wasn't involved in that child's life, there
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are still other men who are involved. You have a pastor do you have
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a coach? Is there an uncle? Is there a grandfather? Those are
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called social fathers. Okay, So she's going to talk about that concept,
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and she is extremely important because this topic is why everybody should be here,
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right. It's not for biological fathers, even adopted foster but this social father
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concept is extremely important for people to understand. And my hope is and desire
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is that we grow in scale across the US and hopefully across the globe because
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there are men who are raising black boys, black and brown boys across the
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world. What do you expect to change from this? Corey? So I
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think, what ways are you expect it to change? So there's the conference
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and then I mentioned so how do we measure success? Yes, there's going
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to be a follow up because the conference is only for the adults, okay,
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and it will be for eighteen and older. Is what signifies as adult
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because our teen parents. Oh right, yeah, so we want to go ahead to make sure that people who are there. If you're eighteen years old,
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nineteen years old and you need a resource share, boom, here we go. Right, you have other men in your community who can help uplift
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you and kind of you're you have somebody who's fifty years old has seeing the
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battles of time, and somebody who's eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old.
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I wish I would have been able to go ahead and have somebody to reach
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out to. I didn't necessarily have that. Thank you for that in my
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local sphere. Since I've gotten older by had that kind In fact, her
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Holly Loove here. She and I were talking one day and about getting married.
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And you had a child at twenty three. I had a child at
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twenty five, and we're two different generations. But when you're that age,
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you think I'm going to live forever. I know everything, and then you
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start to have life's issues, and at different points in your life when you
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look back, you think, oh, how could I be such an idiot or a google? Why didn't I know? But that's life experience. That's
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why it's so important. That's why your grandmother was so important in your life.
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Right, absolutely, she would be extremely proud. Oh absolutely, and
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she is right. So because energy can't be created nor destroyed, only transferred.
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It's a scientific fact. But then another thing that I'm going to do
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is we're going to tackle aces which are adverse childhood experiences, such as such
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as we'll say, were your parents divorced? Right, is there alcoholism in
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the family, What did you experience of mastic violence? So any adverse childhood
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experience that either you, the adult or the child might be going through.
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Right, So we'll go ahead and tackle that with a couple activities that I'll
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be leading. And this is just for adults. But the important thing is
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within three to five months, will have a follow up where you bring your
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family, where you bring your your children. We'll have partnerships with different whether
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it's a college, and we go on a tour of HBCU. All right, let's go check out Howard. Right, Let's go ahead and put put
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these children in the space of academia. And even if they don't want to
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go to college, just the exposure to it can mean so much. Right.
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Or let's go ahead and let's tour a stadium let's go all right,
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these kids love sports. Let's go ahead and let's see if we get up
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to Penn State. You'll find that with white kids too. Yes, absolutely,
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So it's ultimately just providing the resources to empower the men who are raising
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these boys because the ability is to go ahead and kind of grow and scale
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with Like it's not going to be the same cookie cutter model, right,
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because we'll want to talk about individuals who are in the re entry population.
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Like my father was incarcerated, so every time he came home, the expectation
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was that me and my brothers are going to just go ahead and like love
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him and know him. But in reality, you've been gone for years.
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We don't truly know you, and you don't truly know us. So how
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do you have that as a child, You can't have that conversation, So
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that conversation is a tough one to have, but it's a really dope panel
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that's necessary. So those are different topics that will be discussed at like future
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conferences. So we're already looking at three other locations and being able to go
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and kind of expand out over the next two years. The resources that this
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networking. You have speakers, Yeah, all kinds of things going workshops where
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the people that are part of this and if they want more information from you,
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they want to talk to you and say, hey, Cory, I'm a teacher in the school district or I'm a coach of this little league.
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What happens then? Can they get these people to come and talk or how
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does that work? Yeah, so individuals can go ahead and gladly reach out
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to me specifically, and I've the best email is probably going to be Corey
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at Ethosfoundation dot net. So that's e T HOS Foundation dot net and we'll
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gladly go ahead and have a conversation, right because at the very least,
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we'd love to have you as an attendee. Let me ask you this.
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Here we are in April, when do you where are you right now?
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With tickets for this? I told myself I'm not looking at any tickets so
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April twenty fifth, okay, but we're looking at selling out. There's going
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to believe this is what I do. So we want this to be intimate.
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So we're going to cap it at ninety attendees, so the first ninety
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individuals to sign up. However, we do have sponsorship and donation opportunities and
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how our sponsorship is actually set up. A huge thank you to our sponsors,
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which do include iHeartRadio Media includes Dauphin County Commissioners, also includes like I
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mentioned, Downtown Daily Bread as well as the Hershey Company, the Mill Works,
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so the restaurant. We've been blessed to go ahead and kind of have
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some really great partners with sponsors and big brothers, big sisters as I mentioned.
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But the sponsorship package, for example, one of our sponsorship packages,
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let's say it's two hundred dollars. Of that two hundred dollars, one hundred
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dollars is actually sponsoring a dad or father to attend WON. So we want
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to eliminate as many barriers as possible while also obviously helping cover some expenses.
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So if individuals want to go ahead and reach out and they're like, hey,
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I can't do a thousand dollars sponsorship, we have community level sponsors where
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we can do two five hundred thousand dollars. When you think about events they're
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out there that people are doing, other nonprofits are doing out there, two
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five even a thousand bucks, that's an yeah, they're paying like five ten
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thousand dollars a sponsor event. So but what you're doing, you're gradually changing
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things. Yeah, and where does that come from? So just the accessibility.
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So we have our community level sponsors and then we have our corporate level
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sponsors because we know that at the corporate level they can spend those three,
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five, seven, ten thousand dollars. But the community level, I've had
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people reach out and say, hey, I want to go ahead and sponsor somebody to come. I don't have a thousand dollars, but what could I
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do? Right? So having that outreach, those conversations, we have to
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meet people where I provide the accessibility. So that honestly just comes from just
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understanding what it means not to have anything. Knowing you well as well as
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I've come to know you over the last couple of years, and as I
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said, you're real, You're a spitfire, You're you're so sincere. When
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you go to talk to people about possibilities about sponsorships, what comes from your
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heart to tell them this is something that they need to do. Honestly,
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I think because people have it's a humble flex but a lot of people have
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just googled me or like looked on my LinkedIn because I could see who sees
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what. And I've been in meetings where they've said that that they've looked up
26:14
what I've done, and they've seen work that I've done, and they've reached
26:17
out and it's just genuine. I at the end of the day, just
26:22
want to go ahead and change the world for my kids and for all the
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kids that I'm blessed to go ahead and impact or be around. And you're
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doing what ten or fifteen years ago, when people would come in here and
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they would say to me, well, the answer is prevented. Uh.
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I mean they should have been doing that when the kids are little. And
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I think that's part of what you're seeing now. You don't wait, all
26:44
the damage is done. Nah, it's because this isn't to go on a
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tangent, but just think about a lot of times we're reactive, yep,
26:52
when we need to be preventative. And if we're reactive, it's already too
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late, that's right. So it's just about, all right, what is
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this look like? How do we go ahead and kind of solve it. I've been blessed to have a very robust network and I am big on intuitive
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intuition, so if I'm able to go ahead and get like a gut feeling,
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I never want anybody if you don't like me. I don't want it
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to be because it's something that I did. Right, If you don't like
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me, I just I don't like Corey's hair, right, I don't like that shirt. People like that, right, and that's cool, right,
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But I don't ever want anybody to be able to say Corey did X,
27:30
Y and Z to me from the business lens or personally, so I can't
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fool with him. That's another thing. That's another thing that you need probably
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going to be working on down the road too, because every time I talk
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to you something and there's something else, I can't drop it. But there is something else. And another thing I've I've been all for years and years
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and years is getting kids involved in giving back to the community, starting them
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when they're a little, following up, keep it going so that we stop
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this generation of self said, un your narcissistic kids. I got something,
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I got something. Oh I love it. I love it one more time. Tell us why it's so important for people to be there, how they
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get information and where it is, what it is so right now you can
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get tickets from www. Dot Layers of blackhistory dot com. You will go
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to our events tab and then you will go ahead and type in or you'll
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just go and go to the dropdown arrow which tells you the conference details.
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So that's where you'll buy your tickets, So go buy them now. There
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is a promo code that we do have available that's ten percent off. So
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the tickets are one hundred and twenty five dollars, which will include giveaways as
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well as because at the end, every man there is going there's gonna be
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a surprise at the end. Oh so yeah, so I'm super excited.
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There's going to be the catered lunch as well as networking opportunities and then the
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panels and that you do not want to go ahead and miss the individuals who
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you will be able to network with. Because we're bringing people from across the
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country. Harrisburg is a state capital. There's no reason why we should just
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go ahead and kind of just stick to this small little bubble when people come
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from all over the country to go to our capital complex. So you can
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buy tickets online. Tickets are going to be available up until May eleventh.
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Okay, it's called again. It is called the Men Raising Black Boys Conference,
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which is powered by Black Men Heel. And if you do want to
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reach out to me for sponsorship opportunities or if you want to donate any products
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or services, please go ahead and send me an email to Corey at Ethosfoundation
29:37
dot net and you can always get in touch with me and I'll haunt Corey.
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Yes you will, Yeah, I will. It's called Men Raising Black
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Boys Conference, Power by Black Men Heel Saturday, May eighteenth, from eight
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thirty to five thirty at Harrisburg University. Quickly get your tickets. Thank you
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so very much, Corey. Keep making things happen. I love it.
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I love it and can my listeners catch insight when it airs this Sunday Are
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in caen iheartstation or on your favorite podcast app. I'm Sylvia Moss. This
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has been insight. Thanks so much for listening. To see you next week.
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