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So welcome back to the show, Judith.

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Welcome back. Well, that feels that way.

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I'm gonna do the show, Judith. Are

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Michael, it is such privilege and

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a joy and delight to be here with you

3:28

and to be with your community.

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Well, it is so great having you hear Anna

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as you know, from our dear friend, mutual

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my first live event, which was with

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Bill, I swore I would never do this again. And

3:45

here I am with

3:47

you, tongue tied at

3:50

all, but going for it,

3:52

yes, and having fun. So

3:54

before we dive right into

3:56

things, Judith, has everyone experienced

3:59

trauma in their lives? Yes.

4:03

It's

4:04

a good simple answer. How do we

4:06

know If someone has experienced

4:08

Trump, go ahead. When

4:10

we use the word trauma, Michael, a

4:13

lot of people refugees,

4:16

torture, terrible,

4:19

you know, earthquakes, etcetera, etcetera,

4:22

natural events

4:25

If we instead of the word

4:27

trauma say distress in events,

4:31

distressing events. Yeah. Because there's

4:33

big tea trauma, which is catastrophic.

4:37

But there's little tea trauma. There's

4:40

the teacher who humiliated

4:42

me in front of the class. There's

4:45

my parent who didn't

4:47

really love me, who didn't

4:49

affirm me. There

4:52

is small tea trauma, and that

4:55

is where most of it lies. If

4:57

we instead of using the word trauma,

4:59

which is a dramatic word, and

5:02

use the phrase distressful events,

5:06

Everybody has that. And

5:09

that runs in the unconscious and impacts

5:12

us every

5:12

day. And that's what we need to deal

5:15

with. Thank you. So

5:17

are there top signs that

5:19

we've experienced trauma,

5:21

even little trauma or these experiences

5:24

or events in our lives?

5:27

Yes.

5:30

The biggest one is self sabotage.

5:33

You know, I'm in this relationship and I'm

5:35

realizing I'm behaving like this.

5:38

And I'm being triggered like this. There's

5:42

the outcomes in

5:45

physical and mental health. Anxiety

5:48

from low grade because it's all

5:50

a spectrum from low grade. There

5:53

I say garden variety and anxiety up

5:55

to extreme. PTSD -- Mhmm.

5:57

-- depression from low

5:59

grade occasionally, up to

6:02

extreme catatonic depression. There

6:04

are other mental health issues, association, etcetera,

6:07

fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue,

6:10

lupus, on

6:12

the top trauma specialists in the world

6:15

Van der Kop. Vessel Van Kop wrote a seminal

6:17

book, the body keeps the score

6:20

and that he talks about the connection between

6:22

chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, lupus,

6:25

and trauma. Bruce

6:27

slipped in, who you've you know,

6:30

you've interviewed, dear Bruce, close

6:33

to both the hearts, talks, about

6:37

less than one percent of

6:39

physical disease is genetic. Ninety

6:44

four percent is from

6:46

stress, from our perception of

6:48

what's going on around us that the

6:53

title of his the second chapter of his seminal

6:56

book, biology of belief. And in that book,

6:58

he shows how our beliefs impact our

7:00

physiology. But the second chapter

7:03

starts with the title. It's

7:05

the environment stupid. He's

7:08

not calling anyone stupid. But the environment

7:10

in which we grow up really

7:16

impacts our physical and mental health.

7:18

Going on. So,

7:20

yeah. And

7:21

and you would probably say that nobody escaped

7:24

their childhood unscathed.

7:27

No. And our parents have, you know, some of

7:29

our parents some of our parents are wicked. But

7:33

but, you know, a lot of parents do their

7:36

very best. And that's okay. And I

7:38

deal with a a lot of clients saying, yeah,

7:40

I know that my father nearly,

7:42

you know, used to beat me or my mother

7:45

used to do these terrible things to me,

7:47

but I understand. She

7:50

had a really tough childhood. Understanding

7:54

doesn't do it people because

7:56

what's happening in the unconscious is

7:58

that little child, that little girl, that old boy

8:00

is constantly living groundhog

8:02

day back then. So

8:06

anyway, I have a process that takes

8:08

them out of there, tells them this,

8:10

you're safe, It's

8:12

over and yourself. And

8:15

the symptoms of depression and anxiety,

8:17

PTSD, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, chronic

8:19

fatigue from rheumatoid simply. Go away.

8:23

But everybody, Michael, everybody

8:26

has their stuff. They're distressing events.

8:29

None of us got

8:31

through here. Despite

8:33

good intentions of

8:34

parents, we've all had

8:36

stuff that's happened that impacts

8:38

us every day. Thank you.

8:40

So let's go from there, and I wanna understand.

8:43

I was watching your videos. I was learning as much

8:45

as I could about your process. What

8:48

is self regulation? And

8:51

why don't some people self regulate

8:53

anymore? Okay.

8:58

Let's talk about a normal person,

9:00

whom that is, Michael. And

9:03

they go along.

9:05

And they have a distressing event. So they

9:07

release a certain amount of stress hormones

9:09

and stress chemicals to get them through that time.

9:12

The event passes And

9:15

there's a part of the brain hippocampus that

9:17

steps in at that point. Its

9:19

job is to take that event and put it

9:21

in the warehouse of long term memory in

9:23

the right filing cabinet in the warehouse

9:25

of memory and shut the door and we

9:28

walk away, oh, that's over. Yeah.

9:30

In a regulated system, we have a distressing

9:32

event. We release these stress chemicals.

9:35

The event is over, and

9:38

our system just comes back to calm.

9:40

Because we go up here, our heart rate increases,

9:42

our expression increases, blah blah blah

9:44

blah blah. But the events over and we

9:46

come back to count. We going

9:48

on here, can we go to a live threatening

9:50

event? We go up here to fight fight freeze.

9:54

The immune dalette in the brain The

9:56

emergency services, nah, nah, nah, nah,

9:59

nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Get our attention, hello, we're

10:01

at risk here. We may die. Adrenaline

10:06

is released, cortisol is released,

10:08

all the systems in the bodies that are not

10:10

required to survive the next

10:12

hour to to get away from that metaphorical

10:15

tiger. It just appeared in front of us

10:17

and not be lunch. All

10:19

those systems are shut down. We don't need

10:21

to just breakfast when we're running from a tiger.

10:23

We don't need to fight the bacterial

10:25

infection. And we can do that later. And we don't

10:27

need to do higher maths to figure out

10:30

the trajectory of where we should run and what we

10:32

should do to fight to fight this target. So that gets

10:34

shut down. That takes thirty percent of our energy.

10:37

The hippocampus responsible for long term memory

10:39

also gets shut down. So we go into

10:43

the old brain into instinct.

10:47

And all the energy from the systems that have been

10:49

shut down goes to the big muscle bridge and

10:51

we can fight or flee and survive. Yeah.

10:55

And that's great. In

10:58

a normal system that's

11:00

balanced. Mhmm. We

11:03

realize, oh, I'm not lunch today.

11:07

And the hippocampus takes it a bit and puts in

11:09

long term memory and we walk away, go,

11:11

oh, okay. What's the

11:12

deal? What am I going to go and do next?

11:16

So that switch switches

11:19

on and takes us from fight, flight

11:21

freights, and clears the adrenaline,

11:23

clears the stress

11:26

chemicals from our system brings

11:28

our heart rate back, our respiration, that

11:31

brings our body and our psyche back

11:33

to normal and back to come. But

11:35

in a dysregulated system, what

11:37

happens on our peer, stays up here

11:40

in five flat freights? That

11:42

switch to bring it back to homeostasis,

11:45

bring it back to camp doesn't go on.

11:47

So we continue to to trigger

11:49

fight fight freeze up here. We can

11:52

we continue to pump out

11:54

adrenaline cortisol, etcetera. That's

11:59

what happens in a disregulated system. What

12:01

does it mean to be regulated? It's like,

12:04

Michael, have you ever done a factory reboot

12:07

on a phone? Absolutely. It's

12:10

distressing, isn't it? But, Leslie

12:13

Particularly, when you're at the top of the mountain,

12:16

at at fourteen thousand feet and you go to take

12:18

a picture, and it says rebooting

12:20

system and then it starts rebooting

12:22

all of your apps and you're

12:23

like, I can't stand by the out

12:25

and not that this happened to me before

12:28

Judith.

12:28

Not forever, my god, please.

12:31

So it would never happen to you.

12:35

Yeah. But this makes this makes me think of deer.

12:38

If you have a deer, a normal

12:40

deer in your yard, for instance,

12:42

and you drive home or something and you scared

12:45

the deer, the deer gets spooked and might run little

12:47

bit, and then it looks back and it realizes

12:49

everything is okay and it

12:51

comes back down to normal. It goes

12:53

right back to eating your grass, your rhododendrons, and

12:55

it's having a good old time. But what you're

12:58

saying is in in a dysregulated system,

13:00

that deer freaks out and it may calm

13:02

down a tiny bit and then it freaks out again

13:04

and a tiny bit and continuously

13:06

freak, freak, freak. Yep.

13:10

Or dead? Michael,

13:13

that is exactly what I'm talking

13:15

about. That's

13:17

what Sorry

13:19

to interrupt. Is that, in essence,

13:22

you talk about Old

13:25

school VHS or beta, memory

13:28

tapes playing in our subconscious

13:31

that are just replaying? Are they replaying and

13:33

replaying events? Yes.

13:35

So if we go back to old technology, so

13:40

what happens? We have a distressing event.

13:42

Okay? The amygdala's eyes. No. No. No.

13:44

The adrenaline runs a lull.

13:47

And at the

13:49

end of that, the just may not come back

13:51

online in this this recorded system.

13:53

So there's generally gap

13:56

issues with with trauma,

13:59

with stuff that's happened,

14:01

immune disorders, you know, fibromyalgia

14:04

chronic fatigue, lupus. So

14:06

what happens at the end to that event in a district

14:08

that system is the hippocampus that we see it

14:10

goes, not I'm not gonna play and doesn't

14:12

take that event, put it in long term memory and

14:14

shut the door and go, well, that's alright. We

14:17

survived. We're okay. Instead, it

14:19

gets stored like a video type of

14:21

old technology in the unconscious.

14:24

And there's that on the last three. And that

14:26

when I was six and that when I was seven, that when

14:28

when was nine and and thirteen

14:30

and fifteen and twenty six, and

14:32

it's like a pressure in the balloon. All

14:34

these distressing events builds

14:36

up and up and up and it

14:38

can be the straw that breaks the camel's back

14:42

And so we blow out into anxiety,

14:44

depression, whatever,

14:47

or it can be a catastrophic

14:48

event, in which case we buy it into PTSD,

14:51

etcetera, or into physical issues.

14:54

Yeah.

14:56

And so what's behind anxiety? What's behind

14:59

the depression? It's

15:01

the whole being screaming, I'm not safe. And

15:04

anxiety, it's the hyperhourous state of heightened

15:06

flight, heighten blood pressure,

15:08

heighten, heart rate, respiration,

15:10

etcetera -- Yeah. -- where hyper

15:13

aroused, or it can be the shutdown state

15:15

of freeze, hypo around

15:17

where everything is shut down, the heart

15:19

rate, respiration, etcetera. That's

15:22

all caused by the same thing. The whole being

15:24

screaming, I'm not safe. Why am I not

15:26

safe? Because in my

15:28

unconscious, there's these events

15:30

running

15:32

And my unconscious runs my body, it runs

15:34

every chemical reaction, every

15:36

electrical response, so my body

15:38

keeps firing

15:40

into thinking and behaving

15:43

as if those events are happening

15:45

now. So how do we get rid of anxiety, depression

15:48

videos? Do we simply turn off those

15:50

video tape loops, even for, you

15:52

know, like, this is going over hundred personalities.

15:54

Turn off the video tape loops. And by the end

15:56

of second session where this happens in in my

15:59

work, The spokesperson for those

16:01

hundred personalities said to the man that's calling

16:03

Dave, hey Dave, it's

16:05

over, and we're safe

16:07

now. And you're over

16:09

and you're safe now. You've got this thing called

16:11

life. We don't need to do this dance anymore.

16:15

You've got this. Thanks for the right.

16:17

That was nearly three years ago away, three years

16:19

before we published that. But and

16:21

and it's the same for just low

16:23

grade anxiety depression. It doesn't have to

16:25

be pointy end mental health issues or physical

16:27

issues. Behind it

16:29

all, unless you have a

16:31

heart issue with electricals or

16:34

a growth in your head, in your brain? Behind

16:37

it all is, I'm

16:39

not saying, why? Because stuff

16:41

that's happened to me has not been

16:44

stored in the warehouse of memory in

16:46

the door close. Instead, it's running now and

16:48

my body and my psyche and my whole

16:50

being is responding as if that's

16:52

happening now. Are we consciously aware of it now?

16:55

Unless we're in extreme PTSD.

16:58

And in extreme PTSD, these

17:01

video tape clips break through into the conscious

17:03

mind and we experience them as a flashback,

17:05

which is not a memory. It's a really experience.

17:07

It's a real experience. But for

17:09

all the rest of us, just at low grade

17:12

stuff, it's still running

17:14

in the unconscious, it's running in the body, and

17:16

that's why I'm where's the danger

17:18

I'm kind of catastrophizing

17:21

into the future, etcetera, etcetera. So that's

17:22

how it works. According to my model,

17:25

We're going to play with all of this here tonight,

17:28

and it's interesting. I know

17:30

when Jessica and I first got together,

17:33

I was struggling still quite a bit. I'd done

17:35

a lot of work, but I was struggling quite a bit still

17:37

with PTSD from getting hit by

17:39

a car in Europe while trying

17:41

to make it to the Tour de France fast

17:43

forward till last year, I

17:46

got hit by a car for a

17:48

second time And

17:50

we thought it was a TBI, a

17:52

traumatic brain injury that

17:54

I was struggling to come back with, and I was doing

17:56

brain games and of these things to help rewire

17:59

my mind. But between

18:01

you and me, Judith, and I say that, and I I know

18:03

that there are thousands of others watching.

18:06

I could be in the kitchen and I

18:08

have a watch that measures my

18:10

stress level compared to the baseline of

18:13

the rest of the planet and says, I'm

18:16

chill is a cucumber, and

18:18

and I do all this work, but

18:20

I could be in the kitchen. Maybe I'm going to get

18:22

the toast. And Jessica

18:24

goes to ask me a question, and

18:26

I will say not now. And

18:29

and I feel for her and I send so much

18:31

love and and she'd be like,

18:34

I was just asking if you needed, you know,

18:36

vegan butter or something for your toast,

18:38

but my mind was focused on, I've

18:40

gotta remember to get toast. I've got to remember

18:42

they get the toast. And both of us agree

18:44

this isn't normal and it's it's a very good thing that

18:46

she a very miraculous thing that she stayed

18:48

with me and and not done what we call the big

18:50

b. But it's

18:52

been a challenge of mine since

18:56

the booboo, so to speak, since I was kissed by

18:59

the SUV last year, but it

19:01

didn't start there. It

19:06

started back back back

19:07

back. And it's interesting what you talk

19:09

about focusing on. I have to do the toast.

19:11

That focus on memory.

19:15

I call it kraft. Because

19:18

what happens is in your

19:21

system, in a non dysregulated system,

19:24

The hippocampus that's responsible for long

19:26

term memory shuts down. The

19:31

structure of the brain changes, Michael,

19:34

paper gams get smaller and small. Just like a

19:36

muscle that you don't use, the body consumes

19:38

it gets smaller and

19:39

smaller, the

19:39

image. So I've been doing the brain games to try

19:41

to keep that up there's something

19:43

else going on. And the amygdala,

19:46

which is responsible for firing fight for creation

19:48

at emergency services. It gets

19:50

bigger. And bigger and better

19:52

and more hair

19:55

trigger. There are other changes

19:58

that traumatize brain It's

20:00

very different from a normal brain, and

20:02

it differs in very particular

20:05

ways that we can forecast. One

20:08

of those things is the hippocampus gets smaller

20:11

and smaller. And people who've been through

20:13

lot of trauma as you have Michael, knowing

20:16

just a tiny bit of your story you

20:18

have. So you end up suffering

20:20

from what I call craft. Can't

20:22

remember a flipping thing. I

20:31

just wanna keep in the other room going. I'm so

20:33

sorry, puking. I so sorry for

20:36

me. Yeah. But it's a

20:38

normal response to trauma. It's

20:40

a normal response to abnormal

20:43

stressors. And the

20:45

brain behaves predictably. And

20:48

that's one of the things I can't

20:51

remember. So I have to focus on. I remember the

20:53

toaster. To

20:53

school. Yes. And she's like, oh, why are

20:55

you so concerned? I'm like, because I may forget

20:58

she's like, it's toast. And I'm

21:00

like, but to my mind, it feels like

21:02

I'm walking on a tight rope and

21:04

I could fall off and die. And I say

21:06

it's not real. I'm so sorry. I love

21:08

you so so much.

21:10

But it's this immediate dose

21:12

of electricity saying danger.

21:17

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

21:21

And where does that come from? Burning

21:25

toast. It's

21:27

from it's it's just a side

21:30

story to the big story. So

21:34

let let's go back to In utero. Okay.

21:38

And particularly in the last trimester, and

21:41

for the first seven to eight years, our

21:44

life projection

21:47

is laid down. How is that done? Because

21:50

in the even the last time I missed

21:52

birth, I mean, for some people, a

21:55

live threatening experience. And then for those

21:57

first seven, eight years, our

22:00

software gets loaded. This

22:03

is your life. It's our perception of

22:05

who we are, how the world works, and our

22:07

place in that world. Otherwise

22:11

known that I call it unconscious call beliefs,

22:13

and that's the foundation of our

22:15

life. And whatever we take on

22:17

there is a true belief, which is not,

22:19

it's just a perception, which is from

22:22

an adult in control who tells

22:24

us something, an adult

22:26

in authority tells us something We're

22:29

little sponge. We have no critical facility.

22:32

You go, our mom's just having a bad day.

22:34

We go, oh, okay. And we take that

22:36

on. Or our little person's perception

22:38

of what's going on. You

22:41

know, a little person is the middle of

22:43

their universe. You know how to do a drawing there in

22:45

the middle and the family and the dog and the cat

22:48

around the side. So anything that happens in

22:50

this family is my fault. So

22:52

if mom leaves,

22:53

well, it's my fault.

22:55

If something happens, you know, one has an accent

22:57

or someone has an it's my fault.

22:59

So we take that ball on it for a sensitive

23:02

little person. So we're

23:05

it's it's all about us. So we

23:07

take on these ideas from someone in

23:10

an adult in authority or a little person's

23:12

perception and what's going on. At

23:14

34567, and we're

23:16

now in our fifties. And

23:19

we're still running on

23:22

those truths that

23:24

we put down and we manifest what

23:26

our unconscious beliefs to be true. And I'll say

23:29

that three times because it's really important. We

23:31

manifest what our unconscious believes

23:33

to be true and not to say once more

23:35

because it's really important. We manifest

23:39

what our unconscious, which took on these

23:41

beliefs when we were little. Whatever

23:44

it took on, we manifest that throughout our life.

23:46

So for myself, for example, so I had ridiculous

23:48

life strange on. So I

23:50

took on the ideas of I make good

23:52

people do bad things, you know, because I was

23:54

Catholic and I had family or ancestors

23:57

and priests who came after

23:59

me and, you know, groomed and sexually

24:01

abused by Catholic nun in my early teens, you

24:03

know. So I took on a very strong

24:05

idea. It's wrong with me. I'm evil.

24:07

I'm like, bad. Good people do bad

24:09

things. I deserve to suffer. I deserve to

24:11

be punished. Mhmm. So for the

24:13

next Five

24:16

decades, I

24:18

manifest in that. I worked my way

24:20

up through the hierarchy of violent mutters.

24:23

Until I found myself with a homicide so I could

24:25

go through this into torture. So that

24:27

lasted for nine years and I was cut up very bad. They

24:29

had a lot of surgery to put my body back together.

24:31

And at the end of that, the surgeon said, up in chronic

24:33

illness, health and chronic pain through this for my very short life,

24:36

but I thought you don't know me. But

24:38

it's this early experience

24:41

that runs the rest of our life.

24:43

And

24:43

I told you, how did you heal?

24:46

I figured it out. During

24:52

that time when I was being cut out, I

24:54

put my son with his dad thinking

24:56

he'd be safe, my ex husband. The be safe

24:58

and loved and protected. I need to find

25:00

that he was being dragged and passed

25:02

around pedophiles -- Mhmm. -- from when he's forward

25:05

to when he was twelve and I went back. If

25:08

it had just been me, I would owe just a few

25:10

minutes away. But I

25:12

I was responsible for this twelve year old boy

25:14

and a parent as you know them,

25:16

Michael, we would we're

25:19

obsessed. We'll

25:21

do anything for that job. So

25:23

I had to stay around and fix that

25:25

boy who had a hit list in his pocket that

25:28

he would study every day when he wasn't curled up

25:30

in the fetal position, howling like a wild animal.

25:33

An extreme distress for days and months

25:35

at a time. He would study that

25:38

hit list and figure out how he's gonna go and kill

25:40

those men. That hurt

25:41

him. So he was twelve. I thought I've only

25:43

got a few years before he's big enough and strong enough

25:46

to go and act on that.

25:49

I took him to youth mental health services, psychologists,

25:51

etcetera, week, and home, and I said, you

25:53

know what? We have

25:56

a very short window opportunity to

25:58

fix this, and they have

26:00

no idea.

26:03

We are capable in intelligence. Taking out of school,

26:06

we're gonna find the way, and that's what we did.

26:08

So not a psychologist.

26:11

I'm actually pianist. My first degree

26:13

was looking service on music. But

26:17

it's not rocket science. It's actually really

26:20

simple. How to fix

26:22

this. And so anyway, that's what I did.

26:24

And now I've taught hundreds and hundreds of

26:27

psychiatrists, medical doctors,

26:29

psychologist, counselors, how to fix

26:32

this stuff that happens to us

26:34

that messes us up because

26:36

it's not what in long term memory

26:38

how to wake up. The hippocampus, how to

26:41

reboot the whole being.

26:43

We have EEG showing, Trauma

26:46

Brain. And then after this work,

26:49

Alright. And that

26:51

trigger that brings us back

26:54

to calm after distressing

26:56

event just kicks in and kicks in and kicks in.

27:02

Please forgive me for asking, and then we'll we'll

27:04

we'll we'll we'll ship. If it's

27:06

okay to ask, and if

27:08

not, we'll just move on. How's your son?

27:10

He's thirty four. He's married. He's got

27:12

two kids. He's top of his career, multi

27:15

award winning. Outside the

27:17

drama, he's right. So

27:22

it's not trying to kill anyone. So that's

27:24

good. And we have saved

27:28

on a call the other day because I do

27:30

a professional welcome call every week with my practitioners.

27:32

It's hundreds and hundreds of them. Someone

27:35

asked me, what's your end point? I said, I wanna be a

27:37

millionaire and everyone chuckles. I said,

27:38

no, you don't understand. wanna

27:41

save the lives of million people. Few

27:43

minutes later, one of our new statisticians that

27:45

I've taught came back to, we've already done that.

27:48

You need another goal

27:51

here.

27:52

Oh, well, that's good.

27:54

So, yeah, that's what we do every

27:56

day. We get to think

27:58

bigger and thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

28:01

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29:12

Years

29:15

ago, I was on Mali. And

29:19

I was recovering from, I

29:21

think, it was NDE number two, only

29:24

had two. I had a trifecta of injuries

29:26

around that time.

29:28

Third, being breaking all bones in front and

29:30

behind and above my heart. Which

29:32

which So

29:33

the breaking bones, was that when you fell off the cliff

29:35

that you spoke about at the beginning of the facing

29:37

CF film?

29:40

That was NDA number two.

29:42

Yeah.

29:43

Okay. I've I've had the three. Yeah.

29:45

And I

29:49

ended up so

29:51

we're we're we're soul brother and sister here

29:53

too. We're we're going through this together.

29:56

Wow, Michael. I'm with you, buddy.

29:58

I ended up taking inventory when

30:02

I was on Maui saying what in the world

30:04

is going on. And this this

30:06

was many years ago now. This was

30:08

about a decade ago. And

30:11

I got spreadsheet out and

30:13

I found that I had if

30:17

I start to stutter or or look down or anything,

30:19

it's it's just thirty

30:22

six I had

30:24

thirty six serious accidents

30:27

or illnesses that had put

30:29

me in the hospital or required surgery.

30:32

That's a bit of a pattern you got going

30:34

on there, Michael. There's been a

30:36

slight chance.

30:38

There may be, and I make light of it. So this

30:40

is a defense mechanism. For everybody there when

30:42

I'm laughing, this is a defense mechanism. I'm

30:45

looking down because I'm writing, so I'm taking information

30:47

by writing. I'm sorry.

30:49

No. Please do what you need to do.

30:51

Thirty six. That's a lot,

30:53

Michael. Thirty six by then. Thankfully,

30:56

I did a lot a lot of work

30:59

And for the most part,

31:02

stopped at at least any of the serious stuff. I

31:04

still got a little broken toes for some

31:06

reason, I've had this weird thing with breaking ribs

31:09

over the years. But until last

31:11

year, when we were pregnant with

31:13

twins, I went

31:15

just about ten years of

31:18

big booboo free. And

31:21

then on Jessica's birth

31:24

day, pregnant with

31:26

twins, I

31:28

got hit by an SUV. And

31:41

that's where I want to, for everyone there,

31:43

we're going to go through a process

31:46

for everybody. So hang in there with

31:48

us. I wanna use me as little bit of guinea

31:50

pig. We discussed this before going

31:52

on air. I'm gonna I I Judith,

31:55

you had written and asked me, how much are you

31:57

willing to share? And I said, I'm

31:59

an open book. I'll share anything and I

32:01

truly mean that. We're gonna use me

32:03

as a guinea pig. Then we're gonna

32:05

walk everybody here through a process and then

32:07

we will open it up to questions. But

32:11

I know what I've done in the spiritual realm

32:13

But to me, there are grooves in the

32:16

record of the subconscious that

32:18

even though I've been playing with it energetically,

32:21

that needle keeps getting stuck in the

32:23

groove, and we need to get

32:25

hit off of the groove or erase the groove

32:28

and clean that cleaning

32:31

that record clean, you did.

32:33

I love your analogy, Michael.

32:36

And that's exactly it. Stuck in

32:38

the groove. It's it's keeps

32:42

happening even that was ten years and

32:44

good idea for doing all that

32:45

work. But we want this to not happen

32:48

again. I mean I'll link to that.

32:51

When I first read it back, you want to hear a little

32:53

bit about your story. I thought If I know

32:55

I could get twenty minutes with this gorgeous

32:57

man and just change that

33:00

groove, what would be lovely.

33:02

That was a couple years ago. Now here

33:04

we are. So how wonderful

33:06

that's come

33:07

true? You're

33:09

a manifestor.

33:11

III do that. But

33:13

So as I said, even before we were born,

33:15

of that first seven or eight years or

33:17

or a bit longer, we take on these ideas

33:20

about who we are and how the world works and how to place

33:22

in it. And that runs our life

33:24

and we manifest what

33:27

the unconscious believes to be true.

33:29

And so Michael, before we

33:31

spoke earlier, I was thinking

33:33

about this. We

33:36

set down our unconscious core beliefs

33:38

that were in our life And I was thinking about you

33:40

and thinking what would Michael's unconscious

33:42

call beliefs be to have so many

33:45

accidents, bonuses, some

33:47

many needed experiences, so many

33:49

times

33:50

being admitted to hospital.

33:53

It's not normal. Oh, what a beautiful.

33:56

This is the love bug. And the love

33:58

bug, I think once

34:00

has been on air, might have been with Lauren and Bern

34:02

before, an angel whisperer.

34:05

But she never comes on air. So

34:07

she just graced us with her presence and

34:09

said, you are loved, Michael. You are loved daddy.

34:12

Yeah. Yes, so loved

34:14

Michael. And so

34:16

I write down what would be the possible

34:21

Core beliefs that Michael,

34:23

who's a little boy, took on,

34:25

that he's manifesting again and

34:28

again and again and some of the things

34:30

I wrote down where

34:32

I don't deserve to live. I

34:35

shouldn't even be here. I

34:39

deserve to be punished. I deserve to

34:41

suffer because I shouldn't even be

34:43

here. And I'm going because

34:45

I asked you early to okay, Michael.

34:48

So I'm gonna because I'm shit

34:50

and I deserve to be treated like shit.

34:55

I could take each one of those statements

34:57

and put it in my

34:59

own words, Judith, I

35:01

say,

35:03

well, let's give me statement number one then.

35:05

I

35:06

don't deserve to live. This

35:10

was old Michael. I've done a lot

35:12

of work on this. There

35:17

was It's a miracle that

35:19

Jessica didn't divorce me in our early years.

35:22

Oh, you promised everybody,

35:25

I would be ever be honest. So,

35:28

Bava, get your bleep key ready if

35:30

you can.

35:31

Yeah. And and and and

35:33

I declosure courage during

35:35

this, my lesbian.

35:38

You deserve to die

35:40

mother You

35:42

deserve to die, you deserve to

35:44

die, and would punch myself

35:47

in the gut. I remember driving

35:49

down the road with or Jessica, it's

35:51

a miracle. We're still there. She's she's so my

35:54

hero. We're we're not I'm not this way

35:56

anymore mind you. But I remember

35:58

being going down the road, saying

36:00

Michael is dead. There is no more Michael.

36:03

I'm I'm just completely losing

36:05

it. There was that much hate,

36:08

anger, rage, piss, and visceral

36:10

to myself as to why does

36:13

this lousy awful person

36:17

why is he even still here? So

36:19

that that was number one. I don't know if we even

36:21

need to go through all of them, but that

36:23

amount of So each

36:25

one you said triggers a

36:29

groove that's still in there even

36:31

if I managed to keep the the

36:33

needle off of it now. Those

36:36

grooves still exist. I

36:38

haven't found until today the magic

36:40

eraser to remove the

36:42

group. So I don't like saying those things

36:45

because honestly, again, between

36:47

you and me, the grooves in

36:49

the record Wow.

36:53

They're sexy. They're addictive.

36:56

They give you a rush. Not

36:59

a good rush, but it's like going to a horror movie,

37:01

which I don't do, but people go to them

37:03

because they like that burst of adrenaline. If

37:06

I say those statements, it goes

37:09

Wow.

37:10

The whole body gets a rush.

37:13

Can

37:14

I explain the physiology in that Michael?

37:17

Yeah. But first, let me say my antidote at

37:19

least is I immediately am bringing it back

37:21

to love. Even as I'm hearing, I mean, I say of

37:23

saying that, that doesn't necessarily heal the

37:25

subconscious. But

37:27

I'm very, very quick

37:29

to not go down an addictive

37:32

pathway

37:33

to catch it and ground

37:36

myself into center and into left?

37:38

You are a

37:40

very disciplined man. Michael.

37:45

Not many people can do that, but

37:48

you have shown in all

37:50

your physical activities and everything you

37:53

do, what an extraordinarily disciplined

37:55

manner. And

37:57

you can bring yourself back from that and bring yourself

37:59

back and bring yourself back. But

38:02

we can get rid of the groove in

38:05

the record and stop it.

38:08

I'm down with that. Hence,

38:10

I'm about to cry on air. I'm down with

38:12

that, Judith. I brought tissue.

38:16

Good on your darling. And I

38:18

asked you and we spoke just before

38:21

this podcast. When

38:25

did that first happen? Where does that come from?

38:29

I don't know if you wanna go there on this, but

38:31

it's very

38:31

good. Don't get going anywhere.

38:33

And like I said, I promised. I made a promise.

38:36

Three times I had to have stitches.

38:38

We called it cracking my head open

38:41

by the age of two.

38:43

And that is just ridiculous. Howard

38:45

Bauchner: And and and there were other things,

38:47

other visits to the doctor. By the time I was

38:49

ten, and ended up with six surgeries

38:51

after a bike accident. By the

38:53

time I got when I got wheeled into the emergency

38:56

room, my parents are at a party thirty

38:58

minutes away, they get a phone call from the

39:00

emergency room dock.

39:03

This is before cell phones. And

39:06

well, actually, the dock first said

39:08

when they wheeled me into the emergency room, what is

39:10

it now? What is it this time, Michael? And

39:13

and then they called my parents and my parents

39:15

are like, oh, it's just Michael. We'll wait. It'll

39:17

be fine. That was the norm. Going

39:21

back, my my I

39:23

just and I didn't come to the hospital

39:26

as No. They

39:28

did come to the hospital, but they said

39:30

we'll be back in a little bit. That's just

39:32

Michael. I

39:35

love my parents very dearly, so I wanna caveat

39:37

with that. I love them. In fact, they're visiting

39:39

tomorrow the first time since baby Han has been

39:42

born. How does it get any better than

39:44

this? However, I

39:47

can't pretend to remember consciously

39:51

what mom was like back then,

39:53

what dad was like back then. But

39:55

the little boy in me

39:58

would say she hated me.

40:01

Would say that I

40:03

ruined her life. That's what the

40:05

little boy would say going back to that

40:07

time. That I was probably told you

40:09

ruined my life. And I'm being

40:12

very careful about it because I love them very

40:14

dearly. And if they watch this.

40:16

I want them to know how much I love

40:18

them and respect them. Yeah.

40:20

But that's with the linearity.

40:24

Now can be quite different from

40:26

all the pressures that are under back then

40:28

-- Yeah. -- and how people are in.

40:32

You you told a little story about when

40:34

you were ten years old

40:36

on your back. Right before

40:38

the this this accident happened

40:40

that then required five

40:43

or six. I think it was my first six

40:45

leg operations. I

40:49

remember riding my little fifty

40:52

six thunder down the road. And

40:55

saying, you know, if if an accident

40:57

happened or if something happened, I'd

41:00

finally get the attention that I needed.

41:02

I would finally feel loved. And

41:04

And I remember I remember that clearly

41:06

and I I attached because I'll go back

41:08

and I do what I call snow globeing my

41:10

life. And I'll go look at situations

41:13

and look at events from all angles and try to

41:15

understand them. And I tie that

41:17

link directly to months

41:19

later getting out of the hospital and

41:21

getting this amazing battleship

41:24

thing that you press a button in these little rubber

41:26

airplanes take off off of an aircraft carrier

41:29

And and then for my next birthday

41:31

or or my birthday coming up on crutches,

41:34

I got a go cart that was herbie,

41:38

the love bug go kart. So

41:40

to my mind, you weren't.

41:43

I didn't I didn't actually crash my bike. Somebody

41:45

crashed into me. But as you're saying the

41:47

subconscious can manifest

41:50

this based on our

41:53

beliefs,

41:55

The unconscious believes, what

41:58

it manifests, what it believes, and

42:01

so your pattern, Michael.

42:04

And this is what we do in TRTP. We get

42:07

the client to write down

42:09

the top ten to twelve most distressing events

42:11

that have happened, the age, the name

42:13

of the event and who was there, and and it's

42:15

a snapshot of the life which shows

42:18

what's the pattern? Because that's the key.

42:20

What's the pattern here? And Michael

42:22

Downing, your pattern of

42:24

accident is off the charts.

42:28

And so the

42:31

unconscious global beliefs are manifesting.

42:35

What the unconscious believes. If we change

42:37

what the unconscious

42:38

believes, you'll manifest something else and

42:40

change the group.

42:43

Yep. Sounds

42:46

beautiful. Yeah.

42:52

I dropped it this some years ago

42:54

when I heard about it. You had just been

42:56

hit by a car or

42:57

something. Uh-oh. I

43:00

have to get with Man, and Giant

43:02

as I'm comfortable. It's interesting. I'm

43:04

I'm ordering a new bicycle tomorrow because

43:07

my bicycle my off road bicycle

43:09

got smooshed on the trip down here. You

43:11

haul. I think this is my my another

43:13

car. Everyone was The one

43:15

see those went. Curious the interesting

43:18

thing. I tend to get I I tend to love

43:20

the color yellow. It's a safety color and it's

43:22

a brilliant color. And my bike I had

43:24

decided it was gonna be yellow while I was scrolling through

43:26

tonight this interview.

43:28

And the colored pink cotton I

43:31

I and I loved pink with baby Hannah. I

43:33

love pink. I love pink. And that

43:35

to me is a is a color of love. It's a color of the

43:37

heart. And I'm like, maybe tomorrow, instead

43:39

of getting the bright yellow Stay away

43:41

for me. Stay clear color.

43:44

I get the pink bike and it's an off road bike

43:46

to keep me off of the roads and safer. Maybe

43:48

I get the pink love bike and

43:50

stead after we've done this healing

43:52

work.

43:54

Yeah. And and isn't

43:56

kinda marvelous. It's alive. It's

43:58

wonderful. It

43:59

is. So where do you wanna guide us?

44:02

Where do you wanna take us? I'm giving I'm giving

44:04

so to speak the mic to you.

44:07

Okay. Thanks, Michael. And it won't take very

44:09

long. Michael,

44:11

you're very aware of energy. So

44:14

what we need to do is drop our energy. And

44:17

for the people listening to this, let's

44:19

just do an exercise together.

44:21

We live in a relative universe. We understand

44:23

hot, because we understand cold, we understand light,

44:26

because we understand darkness. So let's

44:28

go to the opposite of dropped energy. And

44:30

if you're sitting on standing, it doesn't matter,

44:32

but sit or stand at attention. Head

44:35

up, shoulders back, chest out, and

44:38

you can become aware of your energy, which is up

44:40

high in your chest

44:42

and just observe what's happening in your mind and in

44:44

your body. I

44:47

don't know about you, but it goes to pin balls

44:49

and fireworks in my head. And

44:52

now let's do the opposite and just

44:54

drop the energy into your thighs,

44:56

into your arse on the seat if you're sitting

44:58

down. If

45:02

we were standing up, if

45:04

we go back to attention, And,

45:07

Mike, if you were standing up and I put my hand in

45:09

the middle of your chest and gave you a little

45:11

push, it'd be very easy to

45:13

push you off balance. It is

45:15

not a power position. The nuns told us to go

45:17

out in the boat like that. That's how it's not power.

45:21

We're a pushover physically. Emotion,

45:24

psychologically, energetically, and

45:26

now drop it. Drop it. It's

45:28

not a flop. It's a drop. And

45:31

if you are standing, with

45:33

your feet, shoulder width

45:35

apart. And I put my

45:37

hand in the middle of your chest and gave you

45:39

a push, you would be rock solid.

45:44

When we're attention, we have pummel

45:46

robots going on around us when we drop

45:48

our energy, and they're in that place

45:50

where physics we are like a lot.

45:54

So your mission people listening to

45:56

this is to push some people around teach

45:58

someone in your household how to drop their

46:00

energy. How to have it up high in

46:02

attention and just give each

46:04

other a little push, make sure you don't push anyone

46:06

over workplace health and safety.

46:09

But feel the solidness of

46:11

that dropped energy and you can't push them over

46:13

unless you get a run up and give them a good

46:15

push. And in that place, We

46:18

are not a pushover. Instead of being

46:20

impacted by what's going on around

46:22

us, we impact. If you wanna calm

46:24

your baby, Michael, Well, it's something

46:26

I've been practicing. I was just I was grinning

46:28

because what I'll tell her is

46:30

drop down into center. And

46:32

I'll use this to represent dropping down

46:35

because I'm using when she goes off

46:37

balance as an opportunity to learn how to bring

46:39

it back to

46:40

center. And she will be entrained

46:42

to your energy. And train

46:44

them. What is that? Okay. You can have pendulum

46:47

clocks and set them off at all different times, come

46:49

back into a house. What happens? They're in perfect

46:51

shape. And so when we are

46:53

the rock in the room with

46:55

dropped energy, everyone trains to

46:57

us. Their heartbreak will be coming

47:00

train to us their respiration, their brain

47:02

waves. And if you wanna come a baby,

47:04

a teenager, a partner,

47:07

a dog, a cat, Well,

47:09

I'm not sure about cats. I haven't done it with

47:12

cats. But a dog, a horse, drop

47:15

the energy. You know, if people have seen

47:18

the dog whisperer, It's

47:22

it's dropped energy. And

47:24

in this dropped energy Michael, we're

47:26

gonna change that unconscious core

47:29

belief to the positive using

47:31

dropped energy and energy. So

47:33

what's the energy, the energy of emotion? So from

47:35

your gut stunning. Drop it. Just

47:38

drop it. And you can

47:40

have your eyes open. Of course, it doesn't matter.

47:42

And from your

47:43

guts,

47:45

So I choose

47:47

to know. After me, I

47:49

choose to know. I choose to know.

47:51

It's because I can. Just

47:55

because I can.

47:56

Because I get to choose.

47:59

Because I get to

48:01

choose. Not?

48:05

Not Jessica. No, Jessica.

48:08

Not my family.

48:10

Not my family. Me.

48:12

Me.

48:14

I

48:15

get to choose. I get to choose.

48:17

And therefore. So

48:19

therefore,

48:20

I choose to know.

48:22

I choose

48:23

to know.

48:24

In every cell.

48:25

In every cell.

48:27

Every atom.

48:28

And every atom.

48:30

Every aspect of who I am.

48:32

And every aspect of who I am?

48:37

That I'm actually safe now.

48:39

That I'm actually safe now.

48:45

That is not true.

48:47

That is not true.

48:50

That I shouldn't have been born?

48:53

That I shouldn't have been born.

48:56

That's just an idea I took on.

48:58

That's just an idea I took on.

49:00

When

49:01

I was a little boy.

49:03

When I was a little boy.

49:04

And it's not True.

49:06

And it's not true.

49:08

I choose to know. I

49:10

choose to

49:11

know.

49:12

In every part of me.

49:13

In every part

49:14

of me.

49:15

And it's now safe for me to know.

49:17

That

49:18

it's now safe for me to know.

49:20

That I should have been born.

49:22

That I should have been born. The

49:24

fact that I was born.

49:27

The fact that I was born.

49:29

Is it an absolute miracle?

49:32

Is an absolute miracle.

49:34

Not just chance. Not

49:36

just chance. It was predetermined.

49:39

It was predetermined. And

49:41

I've had so many accidents.

49:43

And I've had so many accidents.

49:45

So many times I should have been dead.

49:48

So many times I should have been dead.

49:50

And I'm

49:51

still standing.

49:52

And I'm still standing. Which

49:54

proves which proves.

49:57

I should be here.

49:59

I I should be here. I'm

50:03

still standing.

50:04

I'm still standing.

50:06

I choose to know. I choose

50:09

to know. That

50:10

it's now safe for me to know.

50:12

That it's now safe for me to know.

50:14

I

50:15

don't need to suffer. That

50:17

I don't need to suffer.

50:18

I don't deserve.

50:21

To

50:21

suffer. I don't deserve to

50:23

suffer.

50:24

I don't deserve to be punished.

50:27

I don't deserve to be punished. actually

50:33

deserve to live. I

50:35

actually deserve to live.

50:39

I choose to

50:40

know. I choose to know.

50:43

It's now safe for me to know.

50:45

It's now safe for me to know.

50:48

That I can choose

50:50

life

50:52

that I can choose life

50:54

without pain without

50:57

pain. Without accidents. Without

51:00

accidents. Without dreadfulness. Without

51:03

dreadfulness. I

51:05

choose to

51:05

know. I choose to know.

51:08

It's now safe for me to know.

51:10

It's now safe for me to know.

51:14

That I'm loved. That I'm

51:16

loved. That

51:21

I'm celebrating? That I'm

51:23

celebrating. That

51:27

I'm accepted. That I'm

51:29

accepted.

51:33

I choose to

51:34

know. I choose

51:36

to know.

51:36

It's now safe for me to know.

51:38

It's now safe for me to know.

51:41

I'm not shit. That

51:44

I'm not shit. I never was.

51:47

I never was.

51:48

I never will be.

51:50

I never will be.

51:51

I don't deserve to be treated like

51:53

shit.

51:54

I don't deserve to be treated like

51:56

shit.

51:58

I never did. I never

52:00

did.

52:03

I choose to know. I

52:05

choose to know. That I deserve.

52:08

That I deserve. To

52:11

be treated with care. With

52:13

respect. With respect.

52:17

With love. With love.

52:21

Just because I matter.

52:23

Just because I matter. I

52:25

choose to know that. I choose

52:27

to know that.

52:29

Right through me. Right

52:31

through me. I matter. I

52:33

matter.

52:34

And I should be here.

52:35

And I should be here. And

52:37

I'm enough. And I'm enough.

52:40

Oh, yeah.

52:43

I am enough. I am

52:45

enough.

52:47

I'm more than enough. I'm

52:50

more than enough.

52:52

More than I'll ever be called upon today.

52:55

More than I'll ever be called upon

52:57

to be.

52:57

And from this

52:58

moment and from this moment.

53:00

I'm gonna stop apologizing.

53:04

I'm going to stop apologizing.

53:06

For who I am. For who

53:08

I am. The

53:10

truth is,

53:12

The truth is.

53:13

I have nothing to apologize

53:15

for. have nothing to apologize

53:17

for.

53:20

Because just by being.

53:22

Because just by being.

53:25

At this time, at

53:27

this time, on this planet,

53:30

on this planet. Planet

53:35

is changed.

53:38

Part of this change? Planet is changed.

53:40

The planet is changed.

53:45

There's nothing more.

53:47

There's nothing more.

53:48

They do ABI

53:50

need

53:53

do

53:53

or b. I need do or b.

53:56

Because I am enough.

53:58

Because I am enough.

54:00

Just by being here. Just

54:03

by being here.

54:04

I am enough. I am

54:06

enough.

54:08

I'm not shit. I'm not

54:10

shit.

54:11

I never deserved to be treated like shit

54:13

again.

54:14

I never deserved to be treated like

54:16

shit again.

54:16

And I vow.

54:18

And I vow. I vow.

54:20

I vow.

54:21

I will never treat me.

54:23

I will never treat me. Like

54:25

shit again.

54:26

Like shit again. I will treat

54:29

me. I will treat me.

54:31

With

54:31

the care.

54:32

With the care.

54:34

The great respect.

54:35

With the great respect. With the love.

54:38

With the love. I so

54:40

richly deserve. That I so

54:42

richly deserve.

54:43

Because I can.

54:45

Just because I can.

54:46

Because I get to choose. Because

54:49

I get to choose. That's what I choose.

54:51

So that's what I

54:53

choose.

54:53

I choose life.

54:55

I choose life.

54:56

Rich fabulous life.

54:59

Rich fabulous life.

55:01

With no accidents.

55:03

With no accidents.

55:04

I don't need them anymore.

55:06

I don't need them anymore.

55:08

I don't need that in order

55:10

to be loved.

55:11

I don't need that in order to

55:14

be loved.

55:14

I choose to know I am loved.

55:17

I choose to know I am loved.

55:20

I love me.

55:22

I love me. I belong. I

55:25

belong.

55:26

Because I belong with me.

55:28

Because I belong with me.

55:31

I claim me.

55:32

I claim me. Because

55:34

I'm worth claiming.

55:35

Because I'm worth claiming. I'm

55:37

worth loving. I'm worth loving.

55:43

Because I'm enough. Because

55:45

I'm enough. And

55:47

I choose to know all of this.

55:49

And I choose to know all of this.

55:51

In every cell.

55:53

In every cell.

55:54

In every little atom.

55:56

In every little atom.

55:58

In every aspect of who I am.

56:01

In every aspect of who I am.

56:04

Just because I can.

56:06

Just because I can.

56:09

Because I choose

56:11

because I get to choose. And

56:13

that's my power.

56:15

And that's my power. And

56:17

that's how I choose to change

56:19

my programming.

56:20

And that's how I choose to change

56:22

my program.

56:25

Just to know that I'm loved.

56:28

Just to know that I'm loved.

56:30

Just because I am.

56:32

Just because I am.

56:34

And I love me.

56:36

And I love me. Because

56:38

I'm with it.

56:39

Because I'm with it.

56:41

I don't need to have accidents.

56:43

I don't need to have accidents. I'm

56:47

to find love?

56:49

I hugged myself. I

56:51

hugged myself. I'm

56:54

with loving. I'm

56:55

worth loving.

56:57

And I choose to know this, and I

57:00

choose to know this

57:01

because I can. Just

57:03

because I can. You take a breath

57:07

and have a little stretch and breathe.

57:09

And every part of this that you have

57:11

just decided is locked into every

57:13

cell, Michael, into your DNA, into

57:15

every atom, into every aspect of

57:17

who you are, and things will never be the

57:20

same. No? Because you just changes software

57:23

that you took on as a little boy and

57:26

now as the adult beautiful

57:29

Michael, loving that

57:31

little boy. So you love you are loved.

57:35

You should have been born. You

57:38

deserve every good thing, darling

57:41

boy. I've

57:43

got you and you're safe and I celebrate

57:46

you. You belong with me. You're

57:52

enough. Wow.

58:01

Thank you, Judith. Thank

58:04

you, Michael. And that's just the first twenty

58:06

minutes of LTP. Changing

58:09

those unconscious comment, looking at the pattern

58:12

and change what's locking that

58:14

in and getting unconscious and

58:16

the conscious in sync because the conscious mind

58:19

anyway is five percent of the time we've slept

58:21

in your friend in mine. The unconscious

58:23

runs ninety five percent and you can't the conscious

58:26

mind is don't want more accidents and the unconscious

58:28

is, but you have to have them because you don't matter.

58:30

You should be dead. You should suffer. You should be

58:32

punished. You can only

58:34

experience love and get your needs met by

58:37

being in hospital and being smashed to pieces

58:39

and to go no. No.

58:41

I'm gonna rewrite that. Get

58:44

the unconscious and the conscious mind

58:46

in

58:46

sync. Yeah. No. We have enough

58:48

of that. We matter. And

58:52

that's the first steps. And Michael, this has

58:54

been such a joy and such a privilege

58:57

something I intended

59:00

couple years ago and

59:03

let's keep in touch and see how you go there.

59:05

And that people can do. If

59:08

you're in the audience listening to this, can I

59:10

just

59:11

run the little thing in mind? Take take all

59:13

the time you wanna if you have time, I'd love to jump

59:15

into a few questions from people if you're alright

59:17

with. So if you're doing your own work

59:19

people, this is very different from affirmations.

59:22

This is not affirmations. Affirmations.

59:25

You know, I'm healthy. It's the

59:28

it's Christmas time and I haven't had an accident

59:30

and the unconscious goes, yeah. Will you dream?

59:33

But the unconscious will keep you safe

59:35

and do whatever it's programmed to

59:38

do. But this is I

59:40

choose to know with the energy from

59:42

your guts and that's

59:44

what changes the unconscious software

59:47

that's been programmed in when you're a little.

59:49

Enough of that. You can in another

59:51

while, anyway, you can do more

59:53

on that some other

59:54

time. Well, it it it makes me

59:56

think of A

59:59

Sumo wrestler. And

1:00:06

and we're talking about it from that place. I had a service

1:00:08

dog, Saba. I loved her so much. When

1:00:10

Saba didn't want to get off of the bed,

1:00:13

And she was, I don't know, all of, you know, twenty

1:00:15

eight, thirty pounds. She didn't wanna get off of

1:00:17

the bed. She dropped down. And all of

1:00:19

a sudden, she'd feel like a hundred pound Yeah.

1:00:22

And you couldn't imagine. Immovable.

1:00:26

Yeah.

1:00:29

And so instead of being impact

1:00:31

everything going on around us. Even if

1:00:33

the the audience

1:00:35

learns to drop their energy and

1:00:37

impact what's going on around us,

1:00:40

so that we are in force for good, so that

1:00:43

yeah, force for good. Scanning

1:00:45

people re re play

1:00:48

this with their own words put in and

1:00:50

can people do this over

1:00:52

and over again? Sure.

1:00:54

I do it nearly every day. To

1:00:58

power up. Seems like a great

1:01:00

way to start your day of really

1:01:02

grounded into you and grounding

1:01:04

into your

1:01:05

power, my power.

1:01:08

Yeah. And, you know, and I

1:01:10

have I'm running a big organization and

1:01:12

sometimes I think, what am I doing? And

1:01:15

I have doubts and I have challenges and

1:01:17

I get in the car cows

1:01:20

break without the door. Don't get

1:01:22

into it. And I I drive around top

1:01:24

of my voice. I choose to know that actually I'm capable

1:01:26

and intelligent. I've got this. Everything

1:01:30

I've been through is leading to this and

1:01:32

giving me the tools to do this. I choose to

1:01:34

know that and I'm not alone.

1:01:37

I choose not I'm not alone. That

1:01:39

there's people who love me that are in this

1:01:41

for me. There's beings I can't

1:01:43

see. Even the

1:01:45

grasses I walk cross it celebrates

1:01:47

me and goes going too. You cut

1:01:50

this dine, you cut this babe, even

1:01:52

the trees I walk under.

1:01:54

And showering you with LNG of

1:01:56

Dialing. You've got this. It's okay. Keep going.

1:01:59

Yeah.

1:02:06

Before we go into Q and A, where

1:02:09

can people go to find your

1:02:11

work or to find a practitioner or to

1:02:13

find out more or to find anything that

1:02:16

you have to offer to help people

1:02:18

to, I guess, your words

1:02:20

wouldn't be heal it's to

1:02:22

leave it behind.

1:02:24

Yeah. Just resolve it.

1:02:26

Just don't have so I work if

1:02:28

you do TITP, Your

1:02:31

story, I'm sorry, but your

1:02:33

story will become boring because

1:02:36

all the energy we've taken out of it

1:02:39

and you'll be free and liberated to

1:02:41

create something different. And the unconscious

1:02:44

cobble issue will be changed so you create all

1:02:46

sorts of other things. So where

1:02:48

If you go to TRTP therapy

1:02:51

dot com, TRTP therapy dot

1:02:53

com, and you'll arrive

1:02:55

on a page and you'll say, what are you looking for?

1:02:58

I'm looking for a practitioner. That's if you wanted

1:03:00

to do your own work or find somebody for

1:03:02

somebody that you love. Or

1:03:04

I'm looking for TRTP training

1:03:06

if you wanna invest to get that if you're

1:03:08

a body or mental

1:03:11

health practitioner, that's

1:03:14

where you go.

1:03:16

Right. Because our app counts are extremely

1:03:19

yeah. And and

1:03:22

I'll let everybody know that I

1:03:25

feel like I'm size furling with a hair

1:03:27

club for men, an American advertisement for

1:03:29

many years. I'm I'm not

1:03:31

I'm not just the the host here. I'm

1:03:33

going to be a working with

1:03:35

you because I want to go to

1:03:37

the next. There's three steps if I

1:03:39

understand, and I wanna go through this with you.

1:03:42

I wanna go through this with you for myself.

1:03:44

For Jessica who had to face

1:03:46

a double trauma, which was me on

1:03:48

her birthday, getting the

1:03:50

call from the police officer that I'd been

1:03:53

in an accident, and and

1:03:55

not knowing what was gonna happen. Then losing our

1:03:57

baby, losing our twin, Hannah's

1:03:59

twin, only six weeks

1:04:01

later, and we get to do that with

1:04:03

her. And then harness

1:04:05

surgery. That's

1:04:08

actually a biggie. That's one that I'm

1:04:13

I'm very careful with how I

1:04:16

how I say things. So

1:04:18

it is still on the table with the doctors

1:04:20

that she'll be fine, but may

1:04:22

need at some point for their heart

1:04:24

surgery. And she is amazing,

1:04:27

and I don't see that happening and she

1:04:29

runs around and zips around and she will tire

1:04:31

us out. She is

1:04:33

beyond asymptomatic she will

1:04:36

be running laps around here in her little wheelie

1:04:38

thing and will be and she'll

1:04:40

be laughing and running. I don't

1:04:42

even know how to laugh and run like that. I would have

1:04:44

healed over and she's going.

1:04:48

And at the same time, when we bring her in

1:04:50

for, like, at the end of the month, she'll get

1:04:52

her next EEG. She

1:04:57

re experiences the trauma

1:04:59

I think of being taken away for surgery

1:05:01

or being born and hooked to, I

1:05:03

think it was sixteen or seventeen cables at

1:05:05

the same time. And and that's just

1:05:07

heartbreaking. I I gotta watch

1:05:09

my language. It is just

1:05:12

so cancel clear release, but it is

1:05:14

just yeah.

1:05:16

It's hard for answering.

1:05:17

Yeah. Yeah. That did it look

1:05:19

good.

1:05:23

So I I'm excited to work

1:05:25

on this with you. I'm excited. I'm excited. So

1:05:27

would you mind if we go into some questions now?

1:05:31

Pending back control the egg, Michael.

1:05:33

Go for it. Alright. And I'm gonna blow

1:05:36

my schnoz now because I've been crying on the inside.

1:05:38

You could cry. Give

1:05:40

me everybody.

1:05:43

Yeah. Hi. Rob. From

1:05:48

Mary Parker. Can

1:05:51

trauma be released through dreams?

1:05:54

No. Is

1:05:58

that just the subconscious letting you

1:06:00

know what's going

1:06:01

on? Yeah. Yeah. That's telling you, like,

1:06:03

for years, for ten

1:06:05

years, I had two

1:06:08

dreams every night. One

1:06:10

was shooting

1:06:12

a perpetrator. Cheating

1:06:15

and dead every night. Nothing

1:06:17

to see it. Nothing to see

1:06:18

it. Nothing to see it. I was fine. And

1:06:20

the other was being in a lift

1:06:23

and having it just full.

1:06:27

It told me that there was

1:06:29

perturbance, there was disturbance but

1:06:32

no, it doesn't release

1:06:35

the trauma. Because the trauma is

1:06:37

we have to turn off those video, tape loops. And when

1:06:40

we do that, complex PTSD, all

1:06:42

the symptoms. Gone,

1:06:45

extreme anxiety, panic attacks, depression,

1:06:48

disassociate of identity disorder.

1:06:50

You

1:06:50

know, it it's just that's what you do. Sorry.

1:06:53

My mom grew up in a I

1:06:55

don't know how to put it.

1:06:59

She

1:06:59

had a very strong mom who I'm now

1:07:01

in communication with on the other side, so I'm wondering,

1:07:03

oh, how do I do this dance? But

1:07:05

in in this lifetime, she was

1:07:07

She was a beast. She'd

1:07:10

she'd she'd she'd proudly

1:07:12

tortured the nursing home nurses

1:07:15

to almost her last breath. My

1:07:19

mom has a

1:07:22

both hands shake. They

1:07:24

call it essential tremor. And

1:07:27

in researching your work,

1:07:30

I heard that that actually could

1:07:32

be a symptom

1:07:34

of PTSD, and that may be

1:07:36

when you clear that trauma could

1:07:39

be released. Yes.

1:07:41

Yes. Michael, I I don't know

1:07:43

if I mentioned it here, but the first psychiatrist

1:07:46

I taught in the first group, I taught

1:07:48

I thought she had Parkinson's when I first met

1:07:50

her. She was shaking so much, but it was just

1:07:52

this severe tremor of extreme PTSD. And

1:07:55

that psychiatrist cleared her books in the first

1:07:57

five weeks of the train. And

1:08:00

she was a trauma specialist and or

1:08:02

her. Patients, some of whom she'd been

1:08:04

seeing for a couple of decades, just go well.

1:08:09

Alright, from Mary Fryer,

1:08:11

And deep trauma in all caps,

1:08:14

deep trauma ever be really

1:08:16

forgotten and released.

1:08:18

We don't forget it.

1:08:21

Like, I know. I remember I can if

1:08:23

I concentrate. I remember things that happened

1:08:25

to me that were horrific. But when

1:08:27

I remember them, it's just boring. There's

1:08:31

no distress. We

1:08:33

say that even the most horror movie

1:08:35

traumatized client. You

1:08:37

all know that you're done because

1:08:41

you'd be able to talk about what happened to you

1:08:43

with the same out of the motion as

1:08:46

reading out an old grocery shopping list

1:08:48

you find in the back of the draw from seven years ago

1:08:50

in a rice coffee. Tea.

1:08:52

That's how exciting it's gonna be.

1:08:55

And people go, I can't imagine that. And then then

1:08:57

they go, yeah. It's just yeah.

1:09:00

Just boring.

1:09:02

I like that. But you can still remember.

1:09:05

From Denise Schedrell. How

1:09:07

can a person heal from trauma once

1:09:09

it enters their psyche.

1:09:12

I'll draw my go straight to the psyche,

1:09:14

straight to the body. Stored

1:09:17

in the unconscious. The unconscious runs every

1:09:20

electrical result, every electrical

1:09:22

reaction in the body of your chemical response.

1:09:25

And that whole being is

1:09:28

trauma, keeps the whole being locked

1:09:30

in, screaming,

1:09:33

I'm not safe.

1:09:36

So yeah. So that's where it is. That's why

1:09:39

people have multiple personalities, etcetera, and

1:09:41

that's what we fix. It's

1:09:44

I know it sounds too simple and too good to

1:09:46

be true, but the bar of mental health

1:09:48

is so low. After

1:09:51

doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists,

1:09:54

blah blah blah. That's what we do every day,

1:09:56

darling. It's and

1:09:58

it goes right through our entire beam.

1:10:02

Start just stored in one little bit. So,

1:10:05

yeah, that's what we do.

1:10:07

That's interesting because

1:10:12

every cell is one cell. Every person is one

1:10:14

person. Actually, this I'm not

1:10:16

trying to go there, but universe is always

1:10:18

speaking. And we

1:10:20

can go on the news and what we see as one

1:10:22

giant trauma.

1:10:25

Everything we're doing as a species is because

1:10:27

we have unresolved traumas.

1:10:29

Yeah. And and the

1:10:32

huge upsurge in mental

1:10:34

ill health is simply

1:10:36

a reflection of our societal

1:10:39

ill health We're

1:10:41

not doing this very well. Where's

1:10:43

the connection? Where's the village

1:10:46

that raises a family? Where

1:10:48

where is that? Where did it come? We're

1:10:51

isolated

1:10:52

and it's coming out in

1:10:54

individuals. Yeah.

1:10:56

Let's go to and and Forgive me,

1:10:59

I this name has been pronounced or written

1:11:01

out and pronounced before, and I

1:11:03

apologize. I'm not going to get it right. I don't believe

1:11:05

here tonight. Leafie.

1:11:09

Leafie. I

1:11:12

I love you. I'm sorry. I'm not getting

1:11:14

it right. What is the

1:11:16

best mode of healing for complex

1:11:18

PTSD after repeated childhood

1:11:21

trauma status?

1:11:22

Like myself,

1:11:25

repeated childhood rape, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera

1:11:27

is the fastest, most

1:11:29

effective, most long

1:11:31

term healing is TRTP

1:11:34

the process of

1:11:35

credit. I used to specialize in violent anger and men

1:11:37

brought against their

1:11:37

will who were trying to kill their family

1:11:39

and pulled off at the last minute from strengthening their

1:11:42

wife and sitting in the house on fire with

1:11:44

their children and etcetera, etcetera. And

1:11:46

I followed those men for that was two thousand

1:11:48

and twelve. It's now twenty twenty three nearly

1:11:51

eleven years. And those men

1:11:53

have not had

1:11:55

a rage event since. This had a slow burn of

1:11:58

irritation, frustration resentment, but not

1:12:00

a rage event. So for complex PTSD,

1:12:02

it doesn't make any difference. Whether

1:12:05

it's garden variety, depression,

1:12:07

or complex PTSD, or hundred personalities,

1:12:10

It's cause run the same thing. All we have to do is

1:12:12

turn off those video type loops, and

1:12:14

the result is no more symptoms because

1:12:17

that's what it is. It's symptoms, CPT.

1:12:20

C PTSD.

1:12:22

Thank you. From Jane Sealy, how

1:12:25

does or does forgiveness factor

1:12:27

into this equation of trauma?

1:12:30

That's really interesting,

1:12:32

Jane. I've had many,

1:12:35

many clients. I'm thinking particular man

1:12:37

who was in a Catholic orphanage as

1:12:39

a child raped by priests

1:12:42

at age eight nine ten. And

1:12:45

in doing this process, we don't do forgiveness.

1:12:47

And he says, well, III can't do this process

1:12:49

because I only do forgiveness. And so that's

1:12:51

great. I don't know if you've been forgiving

1:12:54

these priests.

1:12:56

He said six decades. He

1:12:58

said, how's that working for

1:12:59

you?

1:13:03

Have your symptoms gone down? No. I'm getting worse

1:13:05

and worse as I get older. Yeah. Because the the brain

1:13:07

continues to change. Forgiveness

1:13:12

is lovely, but it doesn't turn off those

1:13:14

video tape groups. And

1:13:16

the thing is after do this work. There's no need

1:13:18

to forgive us because there's no emotional child. It's

1:13:20

just a year that happened. That was interesting.

1:13:23

That helped my growth. I have wisdom

1:13:25

from that. I don't have emotional

1:13:27

charge. I don't have distress. And so

1:13:29

it's really interesting that there's no need for

1:13:31

forgiveness because there's nothing to let go because it's

1:13:33

gone. And we can look at that person

1:13:35

with compassion and go, pull

1:13:38

past it. You

1:13:38

know? Saks to be them.

1:13:41

Sorry. That's No worries. And

1:13:45

I go, I send the, but I don't have to

1:13:47

do the tango with them. Two questions

1:13:49

that came up from me based on the

1:13:51

exercise that we just did and

1:13:54

based on Jane's question. First

1:13:57

part, How does belief

1:14:00

or not believing in

1:14:02

this process affect the

1:14:05

outcome? We'll go there

1:14:07

first. Okay. Okay.

1:14:09

So you'd like me to answer that one first?

1:14:12

Let's go for it, and then we'll go into the the second

1:14:14

part of that. Okay.

1:14:20

I'm thinking of a client that

1:14:22

I had a while back who was

1:14:25

in one light in Victoria in

1:14:27

charge of the drug squad and drug rates,

1:14:29

etcetera, etcetera. And

1:14:31

in the second session, which is when we turn

1:14:33

off those video type loops, I sensed

1:14:36

that she had just exited the room, you know,

1:14:38

energetically. She just switched on and was not engaging.

1:14:41

So I stopped and said, what's going on for

1:14:43

you, Lisa? And she said,

1:14:45

I'm just thinking, I'm gonna be the one that doesn't work

1:14:47

work for. And I said, okay. Well, congratulations.

1:14:51

That's gonna be your reality. If you

1:14:53

just think, well, this may work, that's

1:14:56

all you need to do. I'm just gonna throw everything

1:14:58

I am in The first question we ask

1:15:00

a client is on scale of zero to ten,

1:15:02

zero being, I don't wanna be well, ten being

1:15:04

I'll walk over some broken glass to be well, where

1:15:06

are you? If they're not eight nine ten, they're not a candidate

1:15:08

for this. Seneca, the great philosophers

1:15:10

said two thousand years ago, is part of the

1:15:12

cure to wish to be cured. And if you

1:15:14

are determined that this won't work for you, well,

1:15:17

no, it won't. Nothing will. Nothing

1:15:19

will.

1:15:22

So, yeah, it's just a matter of being open minded

1:15:24

and throwing yourself in. To it.

1:15:26

But if you're determined that it won't work for you, well,

1:15:28

you will you will, you know, where the mind goes,

1:15:30

the behind follows. And that

1:15:32

will be your prophecy and that

1:15:34

will be your reality, but just be open to

1:15:36

it. I have client I've had clients with

1:15:38

the most horrific horror movie drama

1:15:41

And I told them at the end, you won't have any

1:15:43

emotional charge. You'll just be boring and they'd solve

1:15:45

and die. can't imagine that's it. You don't have to

1:15:48

because I know where we're going. I've got

1:15:50

you. And you're safe,

1:15:52

and all you need to do is follow my instructions,

1:15:54

and I'll take you to the other side of your

1:15:56

brain. I know where you're going. You don't have to know that

1:15:58

yet. But just throw everything that

1:16:00

you are into this,

1:16:02

and I'll take you to spend extraordinary. Nate,

1:16:06

let's take you. Thank you. Second

1:16:08

part of the

1:16:08

question. Although, I think I put up three

1:16:10

fingers to confuse everybody. Second

1:16:14

part of the question. What?

1:16:19

When we are going through the exercise

1:16:22

and

1:16:22

we're going down into our core and we're

1:16:24

saying all of these beautiful statements

1:16:27

to ourselves. What

1:16:29

if the egoic mind, the subconscious, They

1:16:32

cruise in the record. Come up and go,

1:16:35

you say you're love yourself, you say you're

1:16:38

worthy, you're not worthy, and

1:16:40

you're trying to say these things. And

1:16:42

that's summed up. Excellent.

1:16:45

And I've had clients that I can't say that because I

1:16:47

don't believe it. I don't feel it. Mhmm. And

1:16:50

I said, okay. Great.

1:16:52

Thanks for stopping us. Thanks for let's go

1:16:54

in there. Did

1:16:57

I say I choose to feel I

1:17:01

love myself. No. What were the words?

1:17:04

I choose to know. Yeah. Because someone

1:17:06

who is balanced, who has a fabulous

1:17:08

life, his whole system

1:17:11

is regulated and

1:17:13

fine, just knows

1:17:15

this stuff. It got the software

1:17:17

went in when they were little. I'm lovable. I

1:17:19

love myself, but I missed

1:17:21

out on that. That's

1:17:24

why I'm a bit irregular.

1:17:27

That's why I have a few issues. So

1:17:30

I choose to know this because this is what

1:17:32

a person has got their ship So they

1:17:34

act together. That's right.

1:17:37

This is what a person who has their

1:17:39

act together just snows right through them from

1:17:41

when they were little, I didn't get that. So

1:17:43

I choose to know that. The feeling

1:17:45

will come. I choose just choose

1:17:47

to know because that's what I need to

1:17:50

know. If I'm gonna

1:17:52

be the best husband, the best dad,

1:17:54

the best man that I can be, I

1:17:56

need to know that. And

1:17:59

that's what I choose. I choose to be the best dad,

1:18:01

the best husband, the best man. So

1:18:04

I need to know that. So that's what I choose. And the

1:18:06

feeling will come. So Thank you for bringing

1:18:09

that up, Monica. It's just a

1:18:11

voice. I choose to know that because that's

1:18:13

what Simon has got that act together nose

1:18:15

and I didn't get

1:18:16

that. And it sounds like bringing it back to

1:18:18

the first part of the question, the Jews

1:18:20

is the Tsumeb rest. They're going,

1:18:23

I will walk through glass to

1:18:25

get there. I choose

1:18:28

to know. I choose to

1:18:30

have a positive outcome. Even if I don't

1:18:32

have a clue how it's gonna

1:18:33

happen, I'm choosing it.

1:18:36

Exactly. And we

1:18:38

grew up in a culture that tells us I have

1:18:40

no control on my victim. I think

1:18:42

the way I think I feel the way I think feel

1:18:45

I behave the way I've behaved because

1:18:47

all this stuff that's happened to me. But

1:18:50

I'm stepping out of Victor. I

1:18:53

choose no. I'm not a victim of the hand I've

1:18:55

been dealt because I

1:18:57

get to choose and that is my superpower. I

1:19:00

choose to know this

1:19:02

which will run the rest of

1:19:04

my life and I'll manifest that just because

1:19:07

I can and I didn't get

1:19:08

that, but I'm gonna choose now.

1:19:10

It brings up, and we'll dive into a few more questions

1:19:12

here. If if you're okay on time, how are you doing on

1:19:15

time?

1:19:15

Right. Michael, I'm here for you.

1:19:18

Good morning. Excellent. Because

1:19:20

these are beautiful questions. I wanna honor people

1:19:22

as much as I can, and I wanna honor and respect your

1:19:24

time as well. We as

1:19:26

we are choosing our

1:19:29

power. We

1:19:31

get in our car. We turn

1:19:33

on our laptop. We do whatever.

1:19:36

And almost every single

1:19:38

message out there today is

1:19:41

not one at least on

1:19:44

the the the traditional channels, is

1:19:46

not a loving, empowering

1:19:49

message. If we are

1:19:52

choosing ourselves

1:19:53

can we still listen to that?

1:19:55

Or do we get to choose to

1:19:58

change the channel?

1:20:02

I'll go back to Bruce's seminal

1:20:04

book, the biology of belief, and the

1:20:07

the heading for his second chapter,

1:20:10

which is it's the environment stupid. And

1:20:13

we get to run the we get to

1:20:15

create the environment around us in

1:20:17

which we can thrive, not just survive. So

1:20:19

many of us are stuck in survival and are

1:20:21

just existing. But we

1:20:23

get to create around

1:20:25

us the environment in which we

1:20:28

can thrive. What does that sound like? What's

1:20:30

the information coming in? What does it look like?

1:20:32

Even down to colors. Mike, you have the most beautiful

1:20:34

colors behind you. What is

1:20:36

the environment in

1:20:38

which I could thrive? You

1:20:41

know, you can take a six fish out of six pond,

1:20:43

clean it up, put it in a clean pond to thrive

1:20:45

and grow. What is that pond?

1:20:47

Sick fish. Clean it up. Put

1:20:50

it back in the toxic pond.

1:20:52

It'll get sick again. So We

1:20:54

need to guard, to

1:20:57

filter, to be in charge, to have boundaries

1:20:59

about what am I gonna let let into my head?

1:21:04

I choose to be uplifted. What

1:21:06

do I need in order to be uplifted?

1:21:09

I choose to be surrounded by loving messages.

1:21:12

What do I need to hear?

1:21:14

What I need to see? Or

1:21:16

do I just allow the

1:21:19

societal fear to come

1:21:21

at me about the Ukraine war, about

1:21:23

shootings, and about we

1:21:25

actually we're not victims of that. We can

1:21:27

choose. I don't want that. I

1:21:30

gotta surround myself with With

1:21:35

Michael Sandless interviews and

1:21:37

stuff, with these fabulous people

1:21:39

to teach me, to uplift me,

1:21:43

I'm gonna surround myself with this beautiful

1:21:45

music. We're in charged people. We

1:21:47

get to choose, and that is

1:21:49

our plan. Alright.

1:21:54

Question from Jill

1:21:56

Mitchell. My

1:21:58

son my adult son with Asperger's,

1:22:01

neuro Asperger's and

1:22:03

neuro tremors, eyes always

1:22:06

dilated, adrenal overload, depression,

1:22:09

PTSD, identical twin

1:22:12

died, this time

1:22:14

three years ago, zero income.

1:22:17

How do you think I can help him?

1:22:24

The greatest way that we can help our children

1:22:26

is to do our own work done.

1:22:31

Who do we need to be? To

1:22:34

be there? I'm sorry. But even

1:22:36

in the practitioners that I teach, you know,

1:22:38

we I I train my people that

1:22:40

if you're working with a child, you never work with a child

1:22:42

unless you work with at least one caregiver.

1:22:45

With at least one parent first to create

1:22:47

that that pond

1:22:49

that is so so done. First

1:22:51

thing, is

1:22:54

to do your homework. And if you have

1:22:57

very little money, you know, look at hard math.

1:22:59

Look at meditation,

1:23:03

and contact us. Right?

1:23:06

Send us a message to the contact page.

1:23:09

And

1:23:10

we'll see what we can do for you.

1:23:12

Thank

1:23:13

you. And we have specials who

1:23:15

work in Spectrum

1:23:18

clients. Very successful.

1:23:20

You will have to do your own work. But,

1:23:22

yes, we have specialists in all different areas

1:23:24

and some of them work on the autism spectrum.

1:23:27

So Thank you.

1:23:30

And and say Mike from Michael's podcast.

1:23:36

From and thank you,

1:23:38

Jill. From Karen, can

1:23:40

sleep make you do things to act

1:23:42

out in that trauma. I recently fractured

1:23:45

my jaw and broke my tooth in

1:23:48

my sleep. I don't even

1:23:50

remember what I was dreaming about.

1:23:53

I feel free, darling. I used to have

1:23:55

nightmares every night and I would get

1:23:57

up and run. Straight

1:23:59

into a wall. I've got my nose. I don't know how

1:24:01

many times. So

1:24:05

I am hearing you. What

1:24:11

do you do? Just turn that off? Just turn off the

1:24:13

video tape loops and then you sleep like

1:24:15

a baby dying to saying, because

1:24:18

it's that there's video tape loops in the unconscious

1:24:20

that are causing the big perturbance in

1:24:22

the unconscious, which causes us to go, I'm

1:24:25

not safe. So what do we do? We

1:24:27

go into fight, flight, freeze,

1:24:30

and in our sleep, we go bang,

1:24:33

and we're off. So There

1:24:35

you are. And I would also ask

1:24:37

you how old you are and is there any

1:24:39

possibility of Parkinson's because Parkinson's

1:24:43

symptoms of Parkinson's is acting out

1:24:45

in sleep, so that's something to get checked

1:24:47

to say. A

1:24:49

couple more questions, more from me, because

1:24:51

we we've we've cut off the questions at

1:24:53

this point. Okay.

1:24:57

I'm thinking of baby Hannah. She's

1:24:59

extremely

1:25:00

aware for a ten month old. She's

1:25:03

watching everything.

1:25:07

Just all going in. Yes.

1:25:10

Now, obviously, from what you're

1:25:12

saying, if I don't do the work, that's

1:25:14

going in. Are

1:25:16

there things I can do right now?

1:25:18

Because we're gonna do this dance together, Judith.

1:25:20

But are there things I can do right

1:25:22

now because she's soaking

1:25:25

it all in? Yes. Little

1:25:29

Hannah is so much more aware

1:25:32

than anyone would ever think.

1:25:36

Just talk to her either in your imagination

1:25:38

because that gets through or face to face.

1:25:41

And, you know,

1:25:43

when she's coming up for tests, darling,

1:25:45

you're safe. Daddy's got you. I

1:25:47

will always be here for you. I

1:25:49

will always protect you. It

1:25:53

gets it it gets through either

1:25:56

in imagination or

1:25:58

in in real life. And

1:26:00

to spend time with her,

1:26:02

whatever she's running around and doing just with

1:26:05

really dropped

1:26:06

energy. And as she's

1:26:08

going to sleep, particularly Michael.

1:26:11

Put in the positive unconscious

1:26:13

COBOLIEF's turning, you are

1:26:15

loved. I

1:26:18

loved how do I know? Because mommy and daddy

1:26:20

love you so much. And she's only

1:26:22

taught me she doesn't have the language, but she gets

1:26:24

it. You belong. How do I

1:26:26

know? Because you belong. I mean, that I

1:26:28

I

1:26:28

mean, that I never gonna, like,

1:26:32

You are so smart, baby girl,

1:26:34

you are so smart. Never believe anyone who says,

1:26:36

you know, because you are so smart.

1:26:39

You have so

1:26:41

much talent. You're

1:26:44

safe, darling. This is the biggest one.

1:26:46

You're safe. I'm in, daddy,

1:26:48

here to protect you and keep you safe,

1:26:51

and we're not going anywhere. Just

1:26:54

as they're going to sleep, Even though

1:26:56

don't have the light, it'll go right in

1:26:58

and that will be the soft pin, Michael,

1:27:01

that goes in and runs baby Hannah's

1:27:03

life.

1:27:07

Thank you and

1:27:09

it certainly sounds like we get to

1:27:11

say this to ourselves before

1:27:14

we sleep every single

1:27:17

night as well as if

1:27:19

it's our oxygen. Yeah.

1:27:22

Yeah.

1:27:26

Internal mechanisms, Richard Sports,

1:27:28

talks about the different parts of us.

1:27:32

And we can be the spokesperson part

1:27:34

of the person in charge and just tag ourselves

1:27:36

and say, you know what? It's

1:27:39

so easy to know.

1:27:43

You know? And like I I say,

1:27:45

once I wake up on my birthday recently,

1:27:49

And the first words that came out of my mouth, I

1:27:51

don't know where they came from, was, hey,

1:27:53

hey, girl, you're flossing.

1:27:56

Alright. What is flossome?

1:27:58

You are intrinsically flawed. You

1:28:02

are quirky as anything.

1:28:06

And you're awesome at

1:28:09

the same time. And to look

1:28:11

in the eyes, in our eyes in the mirror,

1:28:14

and, yeah, you know what? You're doing okay and you're

1:28:16

alright. To get to the place

1:28:18

where you can looking to your own eyes

1:28:20

deeply,

1:28:23

I love you.

1:28:27

You're flawed. Who gives you?

1:28:29

It gives it them. Yeah. It's

1:28:32

part of who you are, girl. You

1:28:35

got this thing called life. You're doing

1:28:37

okay.

1:28:38

An army g square.

1:28:42

You got this bag. It's

1:28:46

gonna be okay. That's

1:28:50

huge. That's powerful. Just that.

1:28:56

One two last questions, if it's

1:28:59

alright with you. You can

1:29:00

have three, nine, Michael. Three.

1:29:02

Alright. So I know who's

1:29:04

running the chat if there is one

1:29:06

more question from

1:29:09

a participant that you wanna

1:29:11

put down. One or too. That seemed

1:29:13

like mission critical for everyone.

1:29:15

Please put them in the critical. Years

1:29:20

ago, decades ago. Yeah.

1:29:23

I felt it was important to instill

1:29:25

these messages in myself. And

1:29:29

I think I watched a Wayne Dyer

1:29:32

special or something on

1:29:34

PBS sometime. Talking

1:29:36

about the the whole enchilada and

1:29:39

and how if you believe

1:29:41

there's a loving universe or There's a police

1:29:43

source of everything that you came from source. You couldn't

1:29:45

be a mistake. I went home

1:29:48

and I stood in front of the bathroom

1:29:50

mirror. And I said,

1:29:53

I love mice. And

1:29:56

I turned around very

1:29:59

fast, I'm speaking slowly, and

1:30:01

I grabbed the shower curtain rod,

1:30:04

and I smashed that mirror

1:30:07

and I snapped the rod into, and I

1:30:09

destroyed the bathroom. But

1:30:12

because I was so angry with myself

1:30:14

for daring to say that. Downing?

1:30:19

Yes. We

1:30:21

need to sit together. Well,

1:30:23

this is a question for everyone too because

1:30:25

I can't imagine but I'm alone.

1:30:28

No.

1:30:28

No. No. I used to.

1:30:31

I I was compulsively suicidal. I

1:30:33

wanted to kill this beast that was me.

1:30:35

Because I had rage, trauma,

1:30:38

rage, and I was just a horrible

1:30:40

person. I wanted to kill I would do the

1:30:42

will of favor by killing me. I

1:30:44

would go two hundred kilometers an

1:30:46

hour, you know, into a nearly into

1:30:49

a tree, and then so I understand that.

1:30:51

I understand that it's only after the work that

1:30:53

you can do this because the self

1:30:55

only and the self destruction, which

1:30:58

would do the planet a a favor.

1:31:00

I understand that. And

1:31:02

so if anybody there has that,

1:31:08

This planet needs you on the other side of your pain.

1:31:12

You need you on the other side

1:31:14

of the pain. Just imagine it's three months down

1:31:16

the track. We're in March.

1:31:19

It's in the middle of summer in the state's middle

1:31:21

of winter in Australia. Just

1:31:24

imagine it's June, July. And

1:31:27

all of this

1:31:28

pain, all of this rage

1:31:31

is behind you. And

1:31:34

your life has changed.

1:31:40

Make that happen.

1:31:42

TRTP is available on Zoom. It just is

1:31:44

effective on Zoom as it is face to face.

1:31:49

Let's just fix our brain

1:31:51

people. You know, we also want the world

1:31:53

to change and everything. Let's be the change that

1:31:56

we wanna see. Let's fix our pain because

1:31:58

you know what hurt people hurt people. Let's

1:32:02

take away our hurt so we can show

1:32:04

up. Even just for

1:32:06

ourselves, for our kids. Is

1:32:10

there a way for our kids

1:32:13

the best thing we can do is to work on

1:32:15

ourselves first.

1:32:16

Yes.

1:32:17

For our friends and loved

1:32:19

one. There's there's blue swan right now

1:32:21

is talking about AAA horrific discovery

1:32:23

that somebody had. If there is a friend

1:32:25

or family member,

1:32:29

you can't make somebody do

1:32:32

something? Is there a way to to introduce

1:32:34

them, to help them down this path?

1:32:36

Because I I know, I I don't even

1:32:39

try to lead the lot the horse

1:32:41

to water anymore because it doesn't

1:32:43

work. What do you do?

1:32:45

The first thing you do an imagination

1:32:48

exercise where you hold the responsibility to fill

1:32:50

up one's life in your hands. And

1:32:53

you imagine them in front of you because the brain

1:32:55

then conscious what we originally imagined. If you

1:32:57

suck on a piece of lemon, imagine what in your

1:32:59

imagination and it's so sour

1:33:01

and there's so much juice your body will respond

1:33:04

to that. There is so much imagination,

1:33:07

the way the magic comes from there. And it gets

1:33:09

through it gets through on the energetic

1:33:11

level. Hulk responsibility for

1:33:14

your loved one in your hands and give it back to them.

1:33:16

There they are. Say

1:33:17

darling, this responsibility for

1:33:19

your love. There is a way and

1:33:22

you can take that way or not

1:33:24

because we want someone else's healing

1:33:26

so often much more than they do.

1:33:30

And

1:33:30

it just causes pressure on the relationship.

1:33:32

It causes tension.

1:33:35

It's a wonderful word called allow.

1:33:38

And you can just

1:33:41

gently introduce it into it. You

1:33:43

know, you you have you're you're

1:33:45

facing big challenges today. Now

1:33:49

you got a lot that you're facing, and

1:33:51

I love you. This

1:33:55

may or may not be of interest to you, but

1:33:57

here's the link. Come and have a look because

1:34:00

I love you. But, you know, whatever you do,

1:34:02

I I just love you. I don't mind what you

1:34:04

do.

1:34:10

Thank you. Last question from the audience, and

1:34:12

then I've only got one last question. We're gonna let

1:34:14

you go and people are needing to get

1:34:16

to sleep here. They've they're hanging in there.

1:34:18

So because this is amazing. This is beautiful.

1:34:21

This is important. This is powerful. Thank you.

1:34:23

Thank you. Thank you. If we have

1:34:25

suppressed wounds,

1:34:28

wounds and traumas that we don't even remember,

1:34:30

or we have an ego that's blowing

1:34:33

back on us and fighting this on it

1:34:35

it. We don't need to remember. We

1:34:37

don't need to have our ego in

1:34:40

alignment with us stepping forward. We can drag

1:34:42

it kicking and screaming as long as we're willing to drag

1:34:44

it kicking and and screaming and get ourselves

1:34:46

in to do the

1:34:47

work. Right? Yeah. A lot of

1:34:49

people don't if if if people had

1:34:51

a very challenging child or a lot

1:34:53

of people don't even remember it because

1:34:56

the conscious mind is there, the unconscious goes

1:34:58

don't remember. And

1:35:01

it's protecting us. So it just shuts down

1:35:03

the memory and that's okay. You don't need to remember.

1:35:06

And and the ego, it's

1:35:09

we can override the entire decision

1:35:11

I choose because I'm not a victim

1:35:14

of my

1:35:14

ego. The

1:35:17

me is in charge and I choose

1:35:20

to fix this dreadfulness.

1:35:26

And so that's what I'm gonna do.

1:35:28

And then reach out to a TLTP

1:35:30

practitioner. Most of them are in

1:35:32

Australia, but it's just as effective

1:35:34

online, on Zoom. We have a few coming

1:35:37

online. We're bringing this to the states. Yes,

1:35:39

we are. So if you're a mental health

1:35:41

or body practitioner and not

1:35:43

actually be incredibly effective

1:35:46

or get in touch with us through that website.

1:35:49

But, yeah, we we can override

1:35:51

that. We can choose

1:35:53

to be well.

1:35:56

On that note, any last

1:35:58

words that you wanna share with to your people,

1:36:00

Judith, and you have shared a lot

1:36:02

here tonight or this

1:36:04

morning, well, actually now almost midday as

1:36:06

the case may be. Yeah.

1:36:11

What I'd say to listeners watches.

1:36:16

Is you matter? Doesn't

1:36:20

matter what state you're in? Doesn't

1:36:22

matter what your circumstances are.

1:36:26

I've lived in cars. I've lived in this

1:36:28

on this street. I've done

1:36:30

at all. You

1:36:33

matter and there is a way. There

1:36:35

is a way through this.

1:36:37

And in three months, in

1:36:42

just three months. This could be behind

1:36:44

you. Why do I say three months? It's a three step

1:36:46

process. It might take three or two and a half weeks.

1:36:49

But our psyche is finds that difficult.

1:36:52

How could that be possible? Just go to three

1:36:54

three months, this could all be behind you if

1:36:56

you choose. To

1:36:59

live and

1:37:02

to live well enrichly

1:37:04

just because you

1:37:07

can. Mhmm. It

1:37:09

matter. How

1:37:13

does it get any better than this?

1:37:15

How does it get any better

1:37:17

than this. I

1:37:19

cannot thank you enough. A last note,

1:37:21

everybody if you're enjoying my energy and

1:37:23

I'm going to share I'm going to

1:37:25

share this journey. I put out a daily newsletter

1:37:27

called the daily woo hoo daily woo hoo dot

1:37:29

com. You can follow I am

1:37:31

sharing on a daily basis my journey everything

1:37:34

I'm getting out of automatic writing as well. But

1:37:36

I will keep you updated on

1:37:38

this. You can go to daily wahoo dot

1:37:40

com and sign up I do an energetic attunement

1:37:43

every day. I'm going to go down this road

1:37:45

with Judith, and and that's

1:37:47

not a paid endorsement or anything.

1:37:50

I want this. I want this bad

1:37:52

because I do a lot of processes that have

1:37:54

a lot of good, but there

1:37:56

is still a groove in the record and I need

1:37:58

a magic eraser. And I'm going

1:38:00

to play with Judith, and I'm going to get

1:38:02

this magic eraser, and I am going to

1:38:05

repeat report back and that to

1:38:07

me is a mighty mighty.

1:38:10

Thank you, Michael. And thank you, and thank

1:38:12

you, listeners. And

1:38:14

I went insane. I was the mad

1:38:16

Beany woman picking up and down the street doing thousand

1:38:19

miles an hour saying the same thing again

1:38:21

and again and again the team they just called me mad

1:38:23

Beany. Well, I went insane. Multiple

1:38:25

personalities, blah blah blah blah. And

1:38:27

I'm back. I found the way back. And

1:38:32

I or someone I've taught and

1:38:35

loved through this process can take

1:38:37

you by the hand or the other side of your brain.

1:38:40

Do it, disclose your matter. We

1:38:42

can make it happen. Michael, love

1:38:44

you to bits and back together again.

1:38:46

Thank you for this. Fabulous opportunity.

1:38:49

Thank you. When we met

1:38:51

in Sedona at the film festival for the

1:38:53

film facing fear that both Michael and I

1:38:55

feature

1:38:55

him, I I gotta

1:38:58

get to know that man. And

1:39:01

and and what I saw not only was healing

1:39:04

due to but up on stage was power

1:39:07

because you do come from the Dante

1:39:09

end, from the core, from the center, from

1:39:11

the earth. You are like mother earth

1:39:14

speaking to us all going

1:39:16

darling, I love you. You don't

1:39:18

deserve to suffer this way. And

1:39:20

you spoke with such a power, a care,

1:39:22

and compassion, but and

1:39:25

I was like, whoa.

1:39:27

I need to get to know her as well.

1:39:29

That's beautiful. And,

1:39:32

Michael, together, we

1:39:34

can bring so much healing to dialing

1:39:38

people are in pain. We don't need to be in pain

1:39:40

anymore people. We get to

1:39:42

choose. We need to we get to create know,

1:39:44

it's really interesting. Creation is the opposite of

1:39:46

reaction. It's the same way that it's just rearranged. Let's

1:39:49

shift from reaction to

1:39:50

creation. Let's do that. Yep. A

1:39:54

a last a last note for everybody because I'm

1:39:56

watching the chat here. The word

1:39:58

you just used, Judith, is perhaps the most

1:40:01

important of the evening. Choice.

1:40:07

How do I put this kindly? Talking

1:40:10

about our wounds in a sense is

1:40:12

just reaffirming the wound. Choose

1:40:16

to step forward to

1:40:18

get a magic eraser and

1:40:20

leave it behind. Make

1:40:22

that choice

1:40:25

it's so important for you

1:40:27

and for you, for your kids,

1:40:29

for all of humanity. Because if we're gonna

1:40:31

heal humanity, we do it by first healing ourselves.

1:40:34

And that's a choice. Yes,

1:40:37

dummy. Yeah.

1:40:40

Alright. So for everyone

1:40:42

out there, I'm sorry leaving it on such a strong note.

1:40:46

I mean,

1:40:48

that's what we need. Let's change this planet.

1:40:50

Let's take away the planet. Let's

1:40:53

stop generational trauma because

1:40:55

that's what we can

1:40:55

do. Let's not pass it on to our kids.

1:40:58

Let's be there.

1:41:00

That we wanna see in the world. Thank

1:41:02

you. Thank you. Thank you. So for everyone out

1:41:04

there. This is Michael Sandler saying, b

1:41:06

well, have fun. Get your own magic

1:41:08

eraser. And begin going to

1:41:11

your dramas and your beliefs

1:41:14

today and above and beyond

1:41:16

all else shined bright.

1:41:18

Woo hoo. Are

1:41:22

you, Michael? I hope I didn't wait,

1:41:24

baby, honey. Michael. Thank

1:41:27

you so

1:41:28

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