If you listen to my music, there's a good chance the first song you heard was produced by Ben Shive. The music he creates is undeniably beautiful, but the WHY behind it is perhaps even more stunning. If you need to be reminded of the purpose behind what you do, this episode is for you. Ben had so many wise insights that Dave and I literally wanted to cheer at several different points in this interview. ⁣ ⁣

Get out a pen, because you’re probably gonna want to take some notes! 📝

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