For the third episode of Integration Through Pod, Franca Feisel sat down with Neil Walker (University of Edinburgh) to talk about whether the EU can be perceived in utopian terms. During a recent Leverhulme Trust Major Research Fellowship on "Law, Community and Utopia”, Neil Walker approached the EU’s constitutional questions through the prism of utopia. Against this background, Franca and Neil discuss the utopian nature (or not) of European integration, the EU’s foreign policy, the constitutional question, participatory democracy and the defence of European values.This episode was recorded at the Radio Cavolo Studio in Villa Salviati, Fiesole. To learn more about Radio Cavolo, go to https://www.radiocavolo.org.