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the fall of two thousand and sixteen danny geo quarter
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of the macgyver close friend who was driving
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the a susie the night diane was killed
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speaks publicly for the first time
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i'm cooperate in the sand and
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and what they ,
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me to days days ,
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i'm just not really comfortable talking
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about any more of any more
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a total a pot to
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may soon photos of the inside
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of the macgyver says you v or made public
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clearly showing the bullet hole in the sea
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or diane macgyver has been sitting here
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is a view of the front seat where diane macgyver
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was riding it shows where the bullet came
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through the seat and shot her in the best
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you can see where the bullet entered the seat best
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sex macgyver is still a free
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man he's not been charged with
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any crime related to the shooting death
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of his wife also heard from texas guy
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was attorney today save maple says he does
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not expect tax macgyver to be charged
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with any criminal offense is as
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the shooting was an accident that did not involve
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any intentional act or criminal
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in early december a few months
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after his voice x macgyver
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announces plans to sell dance
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collection of clothing shoes
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and jewelry it's described
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at the time as time as is
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there's dream closet and utterly for
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tax as the estate sale
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is to raise money for several
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of the bequeath months and diane's
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will according to the website the sale
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includes many designer wardrobe pieces such
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as prada and barbary
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the to sale and diane's belongings isn't
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the only news that months the
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probably atlanta attorney that shot
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and killed his wife he has he my part has
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been charged macgyver is
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charged with reckless conduct an involuntary
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manslaughter involuntary the shooting death of his wife diane
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despite a polygraph exam despite
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friends in high places and
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is processed love for diane despite
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efforts the thing has claimed that
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night on the streets of atlanta it's
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not enough for text to remain a free
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man bladder attorney texas
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however is in the foothills how to
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they'll turn themselves in an earlier than the church
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macgyver was able to make special arrangements
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to turn himself in using the
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back entrance of the jails
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that back entrance is normally for official
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business only by police in sheriff's
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deputies but that's so macgyver
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could avoid letting the public to see him
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turn himself in at the front entrance
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at the main entrance and by eight nineteen
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he was inside and booked for
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now
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there's no murder charge but
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the involuntary manslaughter charge is
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a celanese with a maximum in
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for ten years behind bars and
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the reckless conduct charge a misdemeanor
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the lesser charge accuses him of handling
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a gun in a careless and reckless
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manner in a way that would endanger
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the life of diane macgyver the
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tommy at the time stephen maples speak
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to the media following news of the arrest
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does not totally
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has a tremendously at odds with our
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what , saying was so severe are horrible
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acts of us and that's what i think that's effects
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were so in this case of this is just simply
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of horrible accident
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on december twenty first more than
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three months after diane's does
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tax macgyver spends his first
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night in jail the next
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day on his seventy fourth birthday
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makes his first appearance before a judge
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probably a when attorneys expecting courts
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is not working is a criminal descendants
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x macgyver turn itself and yesterday
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and the a shooting death of his wife
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that happened back in such a fulton county judge
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grants tax a to
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hundred thousand dollar bond at the hearing later
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that morning eleven alive reporter
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richards is there shackled in
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handcuffs and clad and fulton county
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jail blue sex macgyver was
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a mute participant to the formal reading
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of the charges against them his mood is ashley
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is pretty good
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i mean he's then distraught
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is not a strong enough a word system horrible
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it's been horrible for him and
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his his the best to canada deal out
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the court room a lawyer for the prosecution
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has asked about the case about texas
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claim that it was an accident
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you have any doubt that he did it accidentally
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was happy to statement speak
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for themselves and
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i just know that the guns
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don't just go off
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in addition to wearing an ankle monitor and surrendering
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his past lord he's order to avoid
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contact with the employees were diane
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worked and to avoid contact
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with the key eyewitness in the case
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danny joe court
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the
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the next day after just over forty
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hours inside the fulton county jail
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wearing a suit and a freshly not a tie
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texts macgyver emerges from the fulton
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county jail with his attorney by his
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side effects doesn't say much
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as his attorney does the talk
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this is a couple that have a wonderful
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relationship several
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, of our should should
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known search desire is
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a is a loving relationship there was never
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was source words that was never was cool
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were there was never have there
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was in anger
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they love each other is his second
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marriage for both that has emerged
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later in life they will move towards a tad
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han hade really genuinely luggage
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and you're not going to find a want to censor
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him a , relationship
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and is just an accident is an horrible
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accident
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the what it is this an actual
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flesh remember us as we
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took a polygraph from the very best
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holographic available mr mishra
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careful from gainesville animator
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, that polygraph available to everybody
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in the news media media mr
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ratcliffe available a jewish com
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is relative he was still talk
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to you consider an interview and
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in discuss a result so his level
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of confidence enough homeless
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macgyver would you wanna just
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thought briefly justify adams or
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souls verify with said
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about was just
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thank you very much
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fixed macgyver the holidays
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that year a free man but without
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his wife diane at his side and
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with the prospect of a court case looming
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in his future in
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early january twenty seventeen
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in response to public skepticism
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and close scrutiny from the media macgyver
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hires a high profile people
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relations expert
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dickerson is known for clients like
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delta airlines eighty and seats
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and ironically atlanta as greedy hands
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oh the hospital text
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on the way to emulate the night diane
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was shot like the polygraph
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exam it appears to be another move
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to control the narrative to convince
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the media in the public that
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text shouldn't be facing charges
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for what was in their words
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a terrible accident the
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public auction of diane's collection
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a few days later doesn't do much
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to help texas image and it's
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not without controversy there's
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a lot of interest in this option here
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and there are fourteen hundred items up
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for sale everything from floor
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length first to forty thousand
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dollar diamond earrings their
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affect the bring in as much as two and a half million
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dollars and we gotta behind the scenes tour
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of the auction today which includes more
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than twenty first you
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can take your pick from a waist length chinchilla
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to a full and make of course the jewelry
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one of the biggest highlights and draws
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texas friends jane and and reward
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recall talking to tax around the time
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of that public auction
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i seem , remember
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astor diane says some
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time after after
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that was something reported on
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the local news channel and in
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infants and about a bloke a
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about the fact that diane's
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belongings was sold off by
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tech but that
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was what was in the world to be done wasn't
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it yeah it sat with sex in his
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house
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he was also put on a male
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and we we spent time
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at his house just talking about
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her constantly the
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said tax why they all getting angry
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you so quickly selling alert closes
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of andrew that seems
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well i have
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no choice but nobody's saying that they're
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making it out that i'm trying
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to sell all her clothes to
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make money and i don't wanna
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make money or what my durham back they're
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making it out as if i'm the same this
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person for doing that and
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it was following
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the will a what was required to do
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so each person should get so much
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money and this person should get this
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and then i feel obligated
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to honor that
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defense attorney and legal expert darryl
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cohen questions the decision
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but doesn't see it as anything that would make
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or break macgyver case
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show i thought that that was foolish
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on his part but it didn't bother me
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my why does there is
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no reason to keep her belongings let's get
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rid of them for that a wonder if i
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don't want them around me i don't want to continue
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to remember how she was i mean i think
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again that narrative could have been
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trade a bit he can't
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change the fact that he did it about it was way
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too soon when he did that
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didn't tell me he murdered or that he didn't
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murder ever that is told media doesn't have
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the best judgment the world
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if there's any question about where the
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money will go macgyver says
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it will all go to people diane left
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the money to in her will in
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nunavut
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go towards his legal bills that
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, stop the fulton county district attorney
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from filing an emergency motion to stop
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the auction but a judge
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denied the motion and the option
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takes place or
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i'm for a real estate reality check
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for me a century twenty one affiliated
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agent closing isn't always champagne
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and celebration buyers can back out
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and contracts and fall through at the last moment
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that's why you work with us the century
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twenty one brand is the most respected in
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the industry with that the schools and
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the know how to help you make a sale were celebrating
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tonight
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century twenty one move
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loosely his offices individually owned and operated
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centers when one is a registered trademark own i
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century twenty one realists they tell else
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in april twenty seventeen emergency
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motion
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mild to revoke texas bond
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after a search warrant turned up a firearm
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in
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them diverse condo
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one of the conditions of macgyver two hundred
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thousand dollar bop was that he had no
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guns or knives but when
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investigators search macgyver pando
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a week ago they found a glock
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handgun he was worried about
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all the threats and things that were in
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the paper being gaston
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i think he left a little daunting assault
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any sides all attacks as
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you might need this you should have this
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they lie to did a search you beside him and found
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it on all of a sudden texted
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been out to find a gun and got a gun
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and here he is another man with another gone
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gone it was probably another
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very stupid mistake made
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along the way that should never have happened
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it was found in the closet for
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the defendant mr macgyver a where
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where he keeps his personal clothing
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items for handgun was contained
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within a block
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mark
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what a box macgyver
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, attorney told me that
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he doesn't know how how
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glock got into the glock box
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under the socks and the sock
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drawer the judge in the case as we said
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could send out checks macgyver back to jail
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or because of the finding of the gone
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in the drawer of socks that macgyver
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condo in atlanta and you talk about
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pure stupidity or i'm not
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going to do what you tell me to do i'm the do
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it my way was dumb
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around this time cammy johnson is
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in charge of day
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never saw the gun into recently
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there was no guns on the premises that i
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knew about five years be the case takes
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to and issues will turn investigators
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found the gun on friday but they didn't take
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johnson said she called macgyver lawyer
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who she says told her to take
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the gun to the next door neighbor prosecutors
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were noticeably irritated one
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just didn't go omen why didn't you
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take it first
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why did you put me in that position
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wouldn't it
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i don't know i don't know what to do with guns this
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is not this is out of my world
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so we as the defense who's gun
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was it they say will all actually come
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out i during the course of the investigations
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the loss of find out how we got to be in
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texas divers sock drawer the
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judge will decide next week if he'll be putting
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text macgyver back in jail criminal
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defense attorney lawrence
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zimmerman speaks to eleven allies just whole
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injure about the gun is
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you a like if he had
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lots of firearms have for you for the firearms
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in his home and he did everything foods and
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he's i get rid of mine he by mistake to make a show
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we mistakenly left something in a song for
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adam been in a while and i can give him and
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out the problem is because his saw
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his sock drawer and presumably be going
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to for few months and there's a gun there we that's that's
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a problem for you i can tell you i'm not a george
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amount of attorney but this as way too
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many moving parts to it's according
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to the more is i read it now tell me if
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i'm wrong or right about this if you have a weapon
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in your place of residence bell and
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you're out on bond there's no ifs ands
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or buts about it kept his word front of
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raise the saxons watching a video before
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that is she did not know are some be placed
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in a source of somebody put it there and he didn't know
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about his have knowledge so is a cancer
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your knowledge about it for somewhere else
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has access to the house to that drawers and
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that gives him and else
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in emergency hearing begins on friday
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april the twenty first and dragged
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into the following week
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during the hearing witnesses reveal the gun
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was owned
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hex his brother but how it ended
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up in the sock drawer is still a mystery
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the hearing last three days and
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is contentious at times cool
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was very clearly say no guns mr
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macgyver new this and everyone else around
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him do this he is guilty
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of violating the court
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order knowingly willingly
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and intentionally
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texas defense attorneys argue that
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their client didn't own glocks
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and that his wife diane preferred that
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weapon the night he didn't know
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how the glock nine millimeter ended up in the
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south
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the or says december twenty second two thousand
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and sixteen is done everything he supposed to do
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mr macgyver there's not
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a threat to the public he was seventy four year
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old man that mr mugabe
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responses were genuine they
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were heartfelt they was shot and
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he was scared to death
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after that weapon was founded his body
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would be violated
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the end of the hearing of fulton county judge
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sides with the prosecution
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macgyver bond is revoked
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mr macgyver must have known
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as , cause this is
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of this accident or shocker
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for shocker in
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given how much tragedy how befallen
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macgyver sounds his family
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in this macgyver family and friends he
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is remarkable
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alarming still have
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done that accessible
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sister was as have violation
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of his probation land tax
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dot
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behind bars for now
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i'm going to revoke
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mr mcgowan response what
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i am amenable to reinstating the
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what that means that mr macgyver
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is going to go into custody today but
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i'm going to share with both
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sides conditions of a find
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that i believe would address
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the concern i have flowing
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from the discovery of the macgyver
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guns and the macgyver sites or in
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them without a condominium
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macgyver gun in the macgyver
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sock drawer in the macgyver condominiums
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isn't the only news surrounding the case
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in late april of two
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seventeen prosecutors
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, that text macgyver removed
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the executor of his wife's well those
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documents even say that prosecutors guy
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in macgyver has a secret well
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that her husband is hiding which could prove
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motive in er det there's no such as well
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he's not gonna find the circuit well
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there's no financial motive
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there's no jealousy there's absolutely
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no murray's prosecutors also
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indicates that the charges against sex macgyver
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might increase at some points
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to his sword by the way the police department
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would involuntary manslaughter that had as
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we've known to do
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the book get a the a those is gonna do
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the next day that's exactly
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what happened
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i would have laid
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my life savings on
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they would never have been a morneau
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against
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by his version of events
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baldwin county grand jury has just
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died at the prominent atlanta attorney over
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a malice murder charge and the death of his
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wife diane explosive new allegations
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coming from the fulton county district attorney's
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office after an extensive and several
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months long and best
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we pulled the trigger on the night of september
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twenty fifth of last year killing his
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wife diane
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one malice murder
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that is
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the most serious charge
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and in georgia that's life without the possibility
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for
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that was murdered count to was felony
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murder
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which also
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carries with a potential life sentence
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the way
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heard
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it would be idea that this
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person who's been known for so lot
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like you do that very shocking to think that
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he could have intentionally killed
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his wife and once it started
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being more details are coming out about
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their relationship some of the dynamic summit
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a became really intriguing
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now is murder is not a charge
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you hear about in others according
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to georgia now was murders
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committed when a homicide is done with
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express or implied malice
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and malice is that deliberate
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intention unlawfully to take
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the life of another human beings which
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is manifested by external circumstances
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capable
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the of proof
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legal actor and prosecutor latanya
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heinz breaks it down further malice
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murder would probably be closer to
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what people think of it's like first degree murder where it
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plague malice aforethought this
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is something where you seriously plan
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the decent a new you want it
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to
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you did a theories amount of planning to
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ensure that this person died that
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is now facing malice murder and
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felony murder charges so any
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murder isn't necessarily that you
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plan for the person to die the
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com and scheme that people think about is
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like robbery rates are
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you and a friend decided you're
21:29
gonna go rob the local convenience store
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and then in then process
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yeah a the
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the store owners shot and killed and so
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that is a felony murder
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and then at the same time it could be when
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you complete your issues with you get shot until
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as part of it that's all anymore as
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well so is it just makes it's
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a very easy
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contact
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the jurors on times when they can understand
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that cause using when you talk to your
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to her the charge
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oh any murder and then suddenly
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found someone guilty a felony murder
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in their mind was they understood
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that if they found the person guilty
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of the the sell any and
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that the somebody died as a result
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the felony that make felony murder
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there are five more charges filed
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that day aggravating assault with
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a deadly weapon possession of a firearm
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during a crime in three counts
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of influencing witnesses
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which was another significant part
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of this case where text macgyver
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is trying to allegedly take control
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the situation and tell people the
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lie or mislead investigators
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in this case
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the into the new indictment one of these
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last charges involves an interaction
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you've already heard about when
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tax allegedly told the any job quarter
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to tell the police she wasn't
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in the us you read the night of the murder that
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that's not all
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robert blake dhoni reads the details
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of the indictment includes specifically
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laying out how tax allegedly
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won about it
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influencing danny joe and other
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witnesses
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you did unlawfully and knowingly
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engage in misleading conduct
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for patricia diane carter
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and , allegedly did so by leaving
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a voicemail statement with
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patricia diane carter's husband
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honestly carter
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junior wherein ,
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the defendant implied in this voice
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mail statement that purchases
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diane carter says communicating
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her recollections of the the
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, or the
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death of land diane macgyver
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the law macgyver officers because
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these statements place the defendant is
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imminent risk of immediate incarceration
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and then requesting that thomas li carter
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junior delete the
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, and august was
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allegedly gone with the intent to the
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communication of information
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relating to the commission of a criminal offense
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to law enforcement prosecuting attorney
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for judge
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seven months after the death of diane
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macgyver prosecutors in
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texas defense attorneys begin preparing
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for a murder trial to be this will
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to do respected
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attorney and then to be charged
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with shooting and killing your own wife
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and and right in front of one of her best
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friends this was bizarre
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next time on intense the
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text macgyver case that ,
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as device a sauna decision and a half
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settling she said now now
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i'm that really struck a chord with me because
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i personally have i work in
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that situation already betting that he has been so
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formed an opinion
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it a contradiction of most studios
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