In this episode, Jessica is joined by up-and-coming photographer and model Jeffery Caspen. The two discuss how being a native New Yorker impacts one's mindset as a creative, as well as the challenges of rising in a field that has become quite saturated in recent years. Jeffery speaks on his passion, goals, and experience as a self-taught artist and imparts some of his learned lessons to the audience. The conversation is both raw and embracing, and listeners will enjoy feeling like a fly on the wall of two city kids sharing their thoughts.