0:16

Welcome to Jags and today I'm ka Nannie Stevens

0:18

here with Brian Sexton and John oserhold bands

0:21

back together. We're a little over two weeks out

0:23

from the NFL Draft and we're still trying

0:25

to predict what the Jags are going to do

0:27

with their first round pick. Let's start

0:29

out with our big things today, lasting impressions

0:32

around this time of year, there's some makeup pro days,

0:35

there's top thirty visits. Brian,

0:37

this is the time of year that draft picks

0:39

can make their last impression on teams and

0:41

coaches and they kind of finalize

0:43

their big boards around this time of year. Brian, What can

0:45

kind of swing a vote this time of year

0:48

when you're meeting with draft picks.

0:49

Well, it depends on what the team wants to accomplish,

0:51

Tai with their thirty visits, right,

0:53

you get your top thirty visits and your

0:55

boy is set.

0:56

By this point, they've come.

0:57

Back and now they're just looking to polish some grades

1:00

up and see whether a guy is really

1:02

in front of another guy that perhaps they talked

1:04

to with the combine, or whether

1:06

a guy doesn't fit their system, how he

1:09

performs when he comes in, if they put

1:11

him on a whiteboard. This is about where

1:13

a guy fits and within

1:15

the space of three or four spaces,

1:18

not dramatic moves up or back. And

1:20

of course also you could be talking about where

1:22

you might be interested in moving perhaps in

1:24

the first or second round, and you might be

1:26

looking at guys who can give

1:28

you an impression about yeah, it's worth moving

1:31

back. I suspect that was part of the visit

1:33

with Anton Harrison last year when he came in,

1:35

making sure that if they moved back.

1:37

They had a guy they were interested in.

1:39

But yeah, as far as the thirty visits, you're not just

1:41

talking about thirty first round picks coming in. You're

1:43

talking about him going all through some

1:46

fifth round, sixth round guys. It's mainly

1:48

kai a matter of, look,

1:51

we like these guys, but you're also

1:53

thinking about investing in these guys.

1:55

And it's a chance there's

1:57

not as much time one on one with

1:59

these guys at combines and Pro

2:01

Day's and senior bowls whatever to

2:05

really get a great feel

2:07

for who he is. So this

2:09

is that last chance to sort of bring

2:11

a guy in. And if you're not sure about one

2:13

guy versus the other, if they're close, sometimes

2:16

you just get a vibe for a guy of Hey, this guy

2:18

didn't like football as much as I like, or this guy

2:21

is just not going to be quite a culture fit. So

2:23

you're trying to get a lasting impression. It's

2:25

the last stage of the job.

2:26

Interview Brian Well, and I can give you an example.

2:28

In nineteen ninety seven, the Jaguars brought in a defensive

2:31

tackle from Cornell and named Seth Payne,

2:33

and they had seen him on tape and they'd interviewed

2:35

him, but they wanted more time to

2:37

make sure where he fit. They took him

2:39

in the fourth round, and they wanted

2:41

to make sure that this was a guy that

2:43

they liked, and if he was going

2:45

to go in the third, did they like him enough to

2:48

move up into the third and grab him. And

2:50

that's what they discovered when he was here, was

2:52

this is a guy they wanted.

2:53

They thought they knew.

2:54

Where he was going to go, but based on his

2:56

visit and their interviews and the time they spent with

2:58

Seth, they knew they'd make the move up

3:00

around if they had to.

3:02

They wanted him that badly.

3:04

Still time to affect some of those decisions on those

3:07

top thirty visits. Our second big thing today

3:09

is trade talks. John, we talked a little bit

3:11

about trades last week what we thought could go down.

3:13

Do you have an inkling whether trading up or

3:16

trading back could be more possible.

3:18

Yeah, you know, I've been doing

3:20

this thirty years, trying to predict

3:22

a draft day trade.

3:24

You know, some people predicted because they get

3:26

lucky. You know, I'd

3:29

be surprised if they moved up. But

3:32

I'm always kind of surprised at a draft day trade

3:34

because you just don't know beforehand

3:38

what they're thinking. This might be

3:40

a year to try to do it because the

3:42

end of the draft, everybody you talk to deep

3:45

in the draft six seventh round. It's

3:48

one of the not deepest

3:50

or shallowest, if you will, drafts

3:52

in a long long time. So if you can get

3:55

somebody to trade draft

3:57

equity, you know, to take your draft

3:59

equity and move up, go

4:01

do it this year.

4:02

But that can often be tough. Kadam

4:05

Pardon, Well, it's not to predict. But if you look at the.

4:07

Last two years, Trent

4:09

Bulkey moved up into the first round

4:11

two years ago to grab Devin Lloyd,

4:13

and then last year he strategically kept backing

4:15

up to the spot where he thought he would get Anton

4:18

Harrison. So clearly he's got

4:20

guys that he's identified and he

4:22

wants to be able to maneuver to get the best value.

4:24

That's really the key word, get value

4:27

for the pick. If the guy you want is there, you

4:29

can take him, but you also might

4:31

be able to move into a position where

4:33

you grab a couple of other picks.

4:35

So we'll see what he does.

4:36

The interesting part is in this draft is

4:39

from what I hear, there's about fourteen

4:41

or fifteen guys that have legitimate

4:44

first round grades. So if

4:46

one of those guys starts sliding to a position

4:48

where Trent thinks I got to go get him,

4:50

well, then maybe it's worth the draft capital to go up and get

4:52

him.

4:53

Trades are always on the table, so we'll keep an eye on that for

4:55

sure. Our final big thing today

4:58

is keeping taste. You don't like to look across the

5:00

street a lot, but we do have to mention what's been

5:02

going on in the AFC South, what the Titans

5:04

have done with free agency, what the Texans did

5:06

last year and now in additions in free

5:08

agency, specifically adding Steffon

5:10

Diggs recently to the wide receiver corps, Brian,

5:13

there's a lot being made of the other

5:15

teams in the division. Have the Jags have done enough so

5:17

far?

5:18

Well?

5:18

And I think the Jaguars have to focus on themselves and

5:21

to figure out where their deficiencies are. And

5:23

we know that they have to get better at corner.

5:26

It highlights the

5:28

issue at corner. Stefan Diggs, Right, You

5:30

bring in a wide receiver like that, and

5:33

all of a sudden you're like, okay, and we know Calvin

5:35

Ridley is in Tennessee, and

5:37

so you say.

5:37

Well, we've got to get better at corner.

5:39

But if the right corner's not there, if

5:41

you can't move to get the right corner, you

5:44

can't panic. You can't just go and say, well,

5:46

we've got to have a corner because of the other receivers that are

5:48

now in this division. Strategically,

5:50

you want to build to be able to compete

5:52

with the teams in your division, so you're going to.

5:54

Go looking for corners.

5:55

But you can't have a knee jerk John and say, well, look,

5:57

we've got better receivers in the division.

5:59

We now have to take a corner.

6:01

There are good pass rushers, there are good

6:03

players at all positions in this

6:05

division.

6:06

You better have a well rounded team. Yeah,

6:08

I'm in the minority on this.

6:09

I don't ever worry

6:11

that much about what other teams in the division

6:13

you're doing, because my thought is always

6:16

you be the team they have to be. You know,

6:19

if you lose to you know, if

6:21

you build to beat a team in your division, beat them twice

6:23

and beat nobody else, or you're two and fifteen.

6:25

So look, I'm exaggerating that a

6:28

little bit, but I do get But

6:31

their corner need to me, has nothing

6:33

to do with Stefan Diggs. It's looking at

6:35

your own roster and realizing you need

6:37

corners for now and in the future. So I

6:41

guess I'm out of stat No, I'm as usual.

6:44

Well, listen, I think you have to ask yourself the question.

6:46

Also, why do the Bills let Stefan

6:48

Diggs go? People don't they don't,

6:50

they don't. They don't factor that in. They

6:52

say, well, Stefan Diggs is a great player. Now,

6:54

he's a great player in Houston, but Buffalo

6:56

is taking a significant cap hit on him.

6:58

He's a thirty one year old receiver. They're willing

7:01

to let him go despite the fact that they've got this quarterback

7:03

that has an obvious rapport with him,

7:06

So ask yourself the question, why are they willing

7:08

to let him go? Maybe he's not the same

7:10

player that we all thought he was. See,

7:13

you can't build your team based on that, which

7:15

is what John was just saying. You've got to focus on

7:17

I better be better at corner because I'm not good

7:20

enough at corner, and don't worry about all the intricacies

7:22

of what Tennessee, Indianapolis and Houston do.

7:25

Just focus on you.

7:26

You can't just build your team on paper. You got to play the games

7:29

as well. So we'll see how things go with the draft

7:31

and then of course next season. Stay with us

7:33

here. We're going to look into the draft this week. We're

7:35

looking at wide receiver prospects that could

7:37

be headed to Jacksonville.

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for Jags am as we get ready. We're about

8:08

two weeks out from the draft now, so we're still trying

8:10

to figure things out. We've kind of broken down a

8:12

little. John and I went over cornerbacks last week because

8:14

that's been a popular topic. And as we've

8:16

heard, this year's wide receiver class

8:19

is elite. So we're going to go over some

8:21

of the possible prospects that could be headed to

8:23

town. Some of these are going to go very high. We

8:25

don't have Marvin Harrison Junior in here because I think that might be a

8:27

little bit if we go that route, that's a whole different

8:29

show we'll do. But let's look

8:31

at some of the other options that are on the table

8:34

within the first round. So there's two

8:36

guys coming out of LSU Malik Neighbors,

8:38

Brian Thomas Junior Johnson. One

8:40

of them's gotten mocked to us a little bit that

8:43

you've seen, I'm sure, and kind

8:45

of physically like these are taller receivers,

8:48

you know, something that we've

8:50

seen. The team needs a little bit of kind of a jump

8:52

ball guy. Is either of them the

8:54

person that would be able to fill that role?

8:56

It look really good. I mean Neighbors,

8:58

I think, and you trade up

9:00

might be a little bit of a pipe dream. He's

9:03

you know, there are people who think

9:05

it's very very close between Neighbors and Marvin

9:07

Harrison Junior. So that'd

9:09

be a great pick. I don't think they'll

9:12

be in a position to get him unless they trade

9:14

up. Everything you hear about Thomas

9:16

is that not as developed.

9:19

There are people who think he's being very

9:21

overlooked, that he might be the

9:23

guy out of this class to be as good.

9:25

As any of them. You see him walk to

9:27

the Jaguars.

9:28

I personally would be very

9:30

surprised if they went this route in round

9:33

one, only because it's

9:35

so deep.

9:35

In the draft.

9:37

To me, it still feels like corner and then receiver

9:40

is so deep Brian that

9:42

I think you're gonna see teams say,

9:44

okay, I could get a receiver here, but I can

9:46

also get it in the second round. Some years,

9:49

that's sort of falling. This year at

9:51

this position. I think it's a move that makes

9:53

sense. You know, we often fall.

9:54

Into the trap of just thinking first

9:57

round and that only these guys,

9:59

right Thomas Adounza, the

10:02

kid from Washington neighbors that you mentioned

10:04

in Marvin Harrison, are going to be star performers.

10:06

But if you look around the league, you find that

10:08

there are a lot of really good receivers who

10:11

were taken second, third, fourth round.

10:14

I would be surprised also if they use

10:17

this pick at seventeen at

10:19

wide receiver. Now, if

10:21

there's a guy they love, right, I mean, if

10:24

the a Doonzay kid fall somewhere where

10:26

they feel like they can make a trade up, well,

10:28

he's really good, so maybe you try

10:30

to get up there. But

10:32

the first round is about need and value meeting

10:35

for you, right, the best available player at

10:37

a position that you want. And we've seen

10:39

we saw last year as Trent

10:42

moved to a strategic spot to

10:44

get the need that they wanted Anton

10:46

Harrison. I just I

10:48

can't see receiver being the first pick this

10:51

year.

10:52

Now.

10:52

If it is, it's a

10:54

very interesting philosophical thing

10:56

they're doing if it is. If it is, then

10:58

they're all in on offense, meaning they

11:01

are going to outscore people and

11:03

they are going to be a team that

11:06

wins games thirty eight thirty one.

11:09

I don't think.

11:12

If I'm Ryan Nielsen and that happens, I go into

11:14

a little ball because I think they need

11:16

corner, and so to

11:19

me, this feels like a draft that will be dictated

11:21

at number seventeen more than a lot of drafts

11:23

I've been around by Nie.

11:25

I think you need corner well, and see I can make.

11:26

The case for you going all in an offense and

11:29

getting an offensive linement for number sixteen,

11:32

right, I mean you've got to be all in to

11:34

protect your quarterback. Everyone who's watching this, who

11:36

watched the Jaguars last year know how

11:38

often he got hit.

11:40

And you've got two guys, and I get it.

11:42

You love Cam Robinson and you have Walker

11:44

Lilan and you don't need it this year, but

11:46

next year you're going to because both of those guys contracts

11:49

expire and this is a great year for offensive

11:51

tackle.

11:52

So I get the idea

11:54

of corner.

11:55

I totally get that idea, and I'm

11:57

ninety percent of the way with you there, John, But if it's

11:59

not corner, and I know people want wide receiver

12:02

man, offensive tackle is a tougher position

12:04

to find than wide receiver.

12:06

It just is.

12:07

And you find more receivers who can

12:09

play in later rounds than offensive tackles

12:12

that can play in later rounds. And I

12:15

if it's not corner, it better be offensive tackle.

12:17

To me, is there a world

12:19

where one of these receivers is good enough that you

12:22

trade up for them? Like? Is there someone that you see

12:24

that you're like that would be worth it to me? Or

12:26

are all of them kind of no

12:29

one's seeing it for.

12:29

You, you know, and better

12:32

be special, Okay if you're

12:34

giving up draft equity to go get him, especially

12:36

when now if Brian Thomas

12:39

is at thirteen, like everybody

12:41

else is off the board. Yeah,

12:43

there's always a world because you can fall in love with a guy

12:45

and you want to go get him.

12:46

As I said, if you're.

12:48

Giving up fifth round

12:50

equity to go do it, fifth

12:52

round equity might not be worth that much this year in this

12:54

draft.

12:55

So can you define special?

12:57

What do you need to see from a wider

13:00

in a rookie season to make it worth

13:02

going out to get because you know as well as anyone

13:04

you don't see.

13:05

Yeah, I think special means do you think

13:08

he's a one for the next

13:10

Do you think he's the right or CIV you've never drafted.

13:14

I mean, I don't think you go up three

13:18

spots or I wouldn't go up three spots.

13:22

To win Week five this year.

13:24

I'd go up three spots if I

13:26

thought this guy was going to be on the wall Sunday.

13:28

Listen, what we

13:30

all have, people we talk to, people we trust. I

13:32

don't

13:36

if.

13:36

One of those three right and the Harrison neighbors

13:38

aren't going to be there if a Doomsay slides, because

13:40

he's.

13:40

That third guy.

13:42

If he slides somewhere at ten, eleven, twelve, because

13:44

there's a run on tackles, there could be a run on

13:46

corners, right, because that's a.

13:48

Premium position as well. If a Donsay

13:50

slides to a position where maybe you.

13:51

Have to give up I don't

13:53

know, the fourth round pick, Okay,

13:56

I mean, because the word on him is that he's

13:59

got all the measure, all the intangibles.

14:01

He could be a special guy too, Okay,

14:04

I mean you could make the case with that, because

14:06

you're in the final year of Za Jones deal. Christian

14:09

Kirk is making twenty four this year, twenty seven

14:11

next. I mean, I do get why people would

14:13

like to see a young receiver, especially

14:15

a really good young receiver,

14:18

but it better be one of those three guys.

14:21

Because Thomas looks to me like T

14:24

Higgins, and I know him.

14:24

I'm going to go, oh, well, t Higgins,

14:27

yep, But are you sure he's

14:29

te Higgins? And it's te Higgins

14:31

special enough to go up and.

14:32

Get well clarify us for you to move on. I

14:34

think they're going to take a wide receiver that

14:37

they think can play quickly

14:40

early in the draft.

14:41

I don't know he's gonna be at number seventeen.

14:42

Yeah, So, I mean I would be

14:45

a little surprised if they don't.

14:47

You know, somewhere in that first group

14:50

receivers that people think can play

14:53

go at least to the end of round

14:55

three and maybe end round four. I

14:57

would think somewhere in that group the Jaguars

14:59

are gonna take somebody that they believe will

15:01

impact immediately. I

15:04

just kind of wonder, because of the nature of the position

15:06

this year, if they're going to do it in the first round

15:09

when the need at corner and offensive

15:11

line feels so much more than the need

15:13

at wide receiver in the short term.

15:15

But it is all on value, right, I Mean, we talk about

15:17

need, need, need, and I do get that, but it is

15:19

about value. And if there is if you've got a guy,

15:22

get a receiver that is great at higher

15:24

than an offensive tackle on the board at that spot

15:26

and you can't move back, will you take the receiver?

15:29

You take the best player. You don't

15:32

massage the need. If they're really close,

15:34

okay, well then you have a decision to make. But if one

15:36

is clearly above the other.

15:38

You take the better player, always the

15:40

best player on the board. We'll see exactly

15:42

where that's going to be. I think we're all a little bit still

15:44

on team cornerback at this point, but it

15:46

is good to see what the wide receiver options are because

15:48

if one of them does slide a little bit, certainly

15:51

something that I'm sure the front office will consider about

15:53

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We're gonna go over some of the questions you've been getting this week.

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I'll start off with Rob from Saint Augustine.

16:49

He says, I don't understand

16:51

fans idea that the Jags must draft certain positions

16:53

because of what another team does get

16:56

real. We talked a little bit about this.

16:58

I mean it goes back to, first

17:00

of all, it's dangerous

17:03

some team makes moving free agency and

17:05

then you say, Okay, I'm gonna draft three corner.

17:07

Well, you're drafting with the

17:10

idea, Brian, that of

17:12

building your roster out over

17:14

a four to five year period. It's

17:18

why I said earlier we're talking about wide receivers. I

17:20

don't want to move up to beat the

17:22

Chiefs in.

17:23

Week four and twenty twenty four.

17:25

I want to move up if I think this guy is a core

17:27

piece that I believe will

17:30

be on the wall someday and will

17:32

be a guy who makes

17:35

me a competitive franchise for five years. So yeah,

17:38

it just goes back to I've never thought you build

17:41

to beat one specific team, because

17:43

if that team loses, then you

17:45

got to fight, you know, thirty

17:48

other teams.

17:48

To be well. And I don't want to be completely dismissive

17:51

of the idea.

17:51

I mean, when you're in your division,

17:54

you do build to compete with those

17:56

teams, right. I mean the last couple of years we've seen

17:58

Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry, Well, the Jaguars

18:00

are trying to get more stout upfront against the run.

18:03

They've brought in linebackers to be able to play

18:05

against those players, but you do so

18:07

in the framework of being able to compete every

18:10

week and not just against the specific

18:12

team. If you see great receivers

18:14

in this division, the Jaguars will have to make

18:16

sure that they have great defensive backs, so

18:18

they'll draft where it fits over time

18:21

to be able to compete. The best example

18:23

of this going back is in the early days

18:25

of the Jaguars.

18:26

They built this original team.

18:28

To compete with the Pittsburgh Steelers because the

18:30

Steelers were the class of the old AFC

18:32

Central and they knew that if they were ever going

18:34

to compete for the division title, they had

18:36

to.

18:37

Be able to beat the Steelers. But you didn't

18:39

do it.

18:39

By drafting one player at one spot

18:41

and say, all right, we've now matched them. We

18:44

have a corner to match to Von Diggs.

18:46

We have a corner to match Calvin Ridley.

18:49

You want a corner that can match the best receivers every

18:51

Sunday, and that means taking a guy

18:54

because he fits, and it might not be where you think

18:56

they take it.

18:57

I think cornerback was always in the mixt and then when

18:59

you look at some of those editions, they're like, yeah, that's probably

19:02

a good idea. Our second

19:04

reader fan writer in Jeremy

19:06

from Gilbert, Arizona. Why isn't

19:08

it a possibility for the Jags to draft a defensive

19:11

tackle in round one? A cornerback helps

19:13

one position in the secondary, A better D

19:15

line helps every position in the secondary.

19:18

Yeah.

19:18

Philosophically this is dead on. If

19:21

it was a defensive tackle draft

19:24

that looked like the offensive

19:26

tackle draft or the wide receiver

19:29

draft or the cornerback draft, then I

19:31

think this would be being more discussed. It's

19:34

not a great defensive tackle draft.

19:36

Byron Murphy from Texas

19:39

is could be there. I

19:42

think also they went out

19:44

and signed Armstead, so you've got Armstead,

19:46

Hamilton, Roy, Robertson Harris. I

19:49

wouldn't mind defensive tackle round one. I'm not, you

19:51

know, philosophically this makes sense.

19:54

I think the reason it's not being discussed,

19:56

or the reasons I just.

19:57

Laid out listen, for the same reason that

19:59

I'm about an offensive tackle, right

20:02

because you've got two players who after this year

20:04

are not under contract. You've got Eric

20:06

Armstead, who's thirty one, which isn't ancient

20:09

but it isn't young either, and 're

20:12

Robertson Harris who's on the other side of thirty as well.

20:14

If the best player on the board is a defensive tackle,

20:17

well take him. Right.

20:18

There's two I think, Byron Murphy and Gerseanne Newton,

20:20

the kid from Illinois, that fit in that

20:22

range. If, and

20:25

this is really important, if Ryan Nielson likes

20:27

both of them.

20:28

They may both be highly.

20:29

Rated guys, but they may not fit what he wants

20:31

to do. So if they're sitting there and the Jaguars

20:33

don't take him, it's because they're

20:36

not the best player on the board at

20:38

what they're talking about right now.

20:40

So I'm all with you.

20:42

That's why I always talk about best available player.

20:44

You can never go wrong when you take a great football

20:47

player. And if Byron Murphy or

20:49

Newton fits, take them.

20:51

All comes down to how the board falls, it seems.

20:54

Our final viewer question for ozone

20:56

mail Bags maybe John from Panavider

20:58

Beach, is the overall ross are going

21:00

into the draft the same below

21:03

or the roster's the same? Sorry? Excuse

21:05

me? Is it better the same or below the roster? The

21:07

end of the season, the offensive and defensive lines

21:09

certainly appear better, but I do not see much improvement

21:12

elsewhere.

21:13

Yeah.

21:15

My answer to this when I did it in the text

21:17

mail bag was, if the offensive

21:19

and defensive lines are better, you're better.

21:21

Yes, so.

21:25

Have they quote improved everywhere? Yeah,

21:28

I think Durbin a makes them a better returner right

21:30

now.

21:31

I love agne.

21:33

I think I think durbinat

21:35

right now is probably you know, in

21:38

his prime, where maybe Jamal

21:40

was.

21:40

But that's negligible.

21:42

And you know, I think if

21:44

Armstead and Morse make you better right

21:47

over the ball on both sides of the line, then

21:49

you're a lot better.

21:50

Yeah.

21:51

I think they would have been a lot better if they'd been a

21:53

little better in both of those spots last year.

21:55

I think you're dead on. I think when you make your offensive and defensive

21:57

lines better, you

21:59

are by default a better roster

22:02

than you were at the end of last season. I also

22:04

want to throw this one out because it's a point

22:06

that you made, John. If they go back

22:08

to playing the way that they did in twenty twenty

22:10

two in the passing game, where they were very efficient

22:13

because Trevor was able to distribute the ball all

22:15

over the place, this year it felt like they were trying

22:17

to force the ball to Calvin Ridley, and people

22:19

want to make the comparison, Well, Gabe

22:21

Davis isn't as explosive or fast

22:24

or as good as Calvin

22:26

Ridley.

22:27

Yeah, but can he be what Marvin

22:29

Jones was in this offense?

22:31

And I say, yeah, he's a younger, taller,

22:34

longer Marvin Jones.

22:36

And so if he comes in here and gives them a better

22:39

version of Marvin Jones, then I think the passing

22:41

game is better. I

22:43

could Yeah, I think this is a better roster. It

22:45

may not have improved exponentially

22:48

like some people think it could have, but they were nine to

22:50

eight, right. If you get marginally

22:53

better and can push the ball into

22:55

the end zone at the end of the year, then

22:57

you're ten and seven in the playoffs.

22:59

I mean, they were very close.

23:01

So I don't know that they needed to get exponentially

23:03

better in free agency. Exponentially

23:05

better is where the draft comes in, and I

23:08

think convert.

23:08

You know, had they been able

23:11

to convert oun't know the number

23:13

eight more third and ones,

23:18

that could have been a difference in being eleven and

23:20

six or twelve and five for this day. I mean, it

23:23

sounds like a lot, but I

23:26

think you could easily go back and find games

23:28

where they couldn't quite convert

23:30

a third and one, or or didn't have confidence

23:32

in that.

23:34

To me, that tilted the whole season.

23:35

I just feel like they made good decisions

23:38

in free agency to improve the roster.

23:41

Really, they fit within the cap right

23:43

with knowing that they had a big chunk of money

23:45

tied up in Cam Robinson and a big chut

23:47

that they didn't want to renegotiate, and the franchise

23:50

tag on Josh

23:52

Allen, and they were able to make some moves

23:55

that fit and made this roster better. So

23:58

I kind of liked what they did, not kind

24:00

of I do like what they did.

24:02

The free agency additions to their needs

24:04

were definitely crucial, but now the draft

24:06

you got to back up. You got to develop, and

24:08

you have to get that talent. So then in the next couple of

24:10

years, where they're where they need to be as

24:13

this division is getting a lot better all around

24:15

them. Stay with us here on Jagsam. We'll be right

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finishing things up here on jags am.

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And we're just a little over two weeks

24:49

away from the draft. We're gonna

24:51

be talking about it much much more of the next two weeks,

24:54

probably until very beginning

24:56

of the draft, and then we'll all be wrong about what we predicted.

24:58

But it was fun to kind

25:00

of try to project what they're going to do. Brian, You're

25:02

headed to Detroit.

25:03

I am, I am. Uh.

25:05

You know, I've been on the road for the draft since they moved

25:07

it out of New York, So Chicago, Philadelphia,

25:10

Dallas, Nashville, Cleveland,

25:13

Kansas City. Yeah, the Cleveland one wasn't

25:15

all that great, but all

25:17

these cities embrace it and they put on a

25:19

festival. So I'm expecting Detroit to put

25:21

their best foot forward. It certainly helps that their football

25:23

team has risen to a

25:26

contender in the NFC, and

25:29

the draft is always it's always

25:31

so focused on the first round for the obvious reason that's

25:33

where everyone's attention is. But it's a three day

25:35

festival and it's a lot

25:37

of fun to watch a city and a region

25:39

because.

25:39

A lot of people will come flooding into Detroit for this

25:43

to make it interesting.

25:44

It's coming up fast humore.

25:47

Before we know it. John, somehow you didn't

25:49

want to go to Detroit.

25:52

I never there's

25:54

nothing for there's nothing.

25:56

We did spend a week.

25:57

There's nothing for me. I'm

25:59

not even journed on the bridges there these days.

26:01

I'm not even sure there's anything for me and Detroit, to be honest

26:03

with you, because in recent years, Anton Harrison

26:05

wasn't in Kansas City right and

26:08

Tredon right.

26:10

Break the streak, maybe someone will be.

26:11

There, Treyvon Lloyd, Trevon Lloyd, Treyvon

26:14

Walker was not in Vegas, but Devin Lloyd was.

26:16

The year before that, neither Etn nor

26:20

Trevor were in Cleveland.

26:21

So new you're gonna be yeah, I'm sure

26:24

that's it.

26:26

What's happened is is that players have decided that they'd

26:28

rather do their own parties and stay home. And we

26:30

get a list of you know, ten, twelve, fourteen players

26:32

that are going, and it's just not

26:34

as impactful as it was when

26:37

you know, I'm standing there waiting for Jaalen Ramsey

26:39

to come up right or Dante Fowler, whoever.

26:41

The Jags drafted Josh Allen.

26:43

Oh, Josh Allen in twenty nineteen is one of my favorite

26:45

stories. That was the day

26:47

that Tyreek Killen had a story about him

26:50

and his son who had broken his arm, and there was domestic

26:53

issues in the home. And I walked into

26:55

the green room to grab Josh. Just

26:57

as he was walking down the hallway

26:59

to this, Jennie had Wesley, now his oldest

27:01

who is an infant, in his arms. And you could see

27:03

the smile from the wings on Roger

27:06

Goodell's face as here

27:08

comes Josh Allen with his son in his

27:10

arms, and the story about Tyreek went

27:12

away and it was about Josh Allen, football

27:15

player, husband father.

27:16

It was a great moment.

27:18

Josh Allen the football player. We love him, hopefully

27:20

many more years to come. We're still working on that extension.

27:22

We'll keep an eye on that as we always do. Stay

27:25

with us for the next couple of weeks. We're gonna have all your draft coverage

27:28

for you. There will be a draft event here on Draft

27:30

night as well, so consider that. We'll see you

27:32

next week on Jack's I Am