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and funny man, Drewski's

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also lyrical assassin. Dave

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program. Before we get

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to those great guests, we have to discuss

0:51

what happened last night in

0:53

Sacramento. The Nets against

0:55

the kings, I sat down my couch

0:57

ready for this matchup and it was not

1:00

a matchup at all. Wire

1:02

to wire blowout. The king scored

1:04

hundred and fifty three points

1:07

in one basketball game against

1:09

the Brooklyn Nets. Obviously, it's been

1:11

disappointing start or the nets

1:13

for a lot of different reasons, but this

1:15

might be the low point of the season thus

1:17

far. It is a season high

1:19

end point one fifty three. and

1:21

as I've called them the Fighting Mike Brown's.

1:24

And usually if you're gonna wash the keys, it's

1:26

gonna be Dearen Fox, it's

1:28

gonna be sebonus. when that

1:30

guy got in, in the second quarter in particular,

1:33

Navis, tears up over the

1:35

game. Score locking

1:38

down defensively, setting

1:40

up teammates, rebounding the

1:42

ball. Kevin Herder also was

1:44

way well. Something I love about herder.

1:46

Her exactly. Harrison Barnes

1:49

was also out there giving him quality minutes.

1:52

The Kings looked fast. They

1:54

look deep, they look

1:56

oh, athletic, Maligne Mont was

1:58

bouncing around, making plays, is

2:01

so it was one of those

2:03

games for the Nets Jacoby. They didn't

2:05

lose. They got beat. Yeah.

2:07

And that's different. They they

2:10

got beat, and I wanna get the kings a lot of credit.

2:12

You said the kings looked fast. Right?

2:14

And the nets did kinda look a little

2:16

slow, and Joc Vaughn might

2:18

have had a little bit of an planation for that.

2:21

Let's not forget the nets were just in

2:23

Los Angeles playing the Lakers and the Clippers. And

2:25

Jacques Bon said, quote, I don't know if our minds

2:27

our bodies and souls, we're are still

2:29

in LA. LA will do that to

2:31

you sometimes. Tell you've been

2:34

on over a hundred road trips to

2:36

Los Angeles. What is mister Vaughan talking about?

2:38

He's talking about when

2:40

you're at LA Jacoby, that becomes

2:43

an extended trip to

2:45

Sacramento. Here's why. A lot

2:47

of the people that you were hanging with in

2:49

LA or may have have visited you or

2:51

kick it with, you now have them

2:53

come to Sacramento as imports or

2:55

friends or family. And so that

2:57

becomes an extended trip. and

2:59

the Sacramento Kings know that.

3:01

So they got out in transition. They moved

3:03

the ball. They played defense. They

3:05

made the Nets work. And they did a good

3:07

job put up a hundred and fifty three big

3:10

points.

3:10

I might remember what mister Vaughan and

3:12

mister Rose just told us next time I set

3:15

on a team to win in Sacramento after

3:17

going through Los Angeles. There's also some reports

3:19

from the athletic that there's

3:21

some sort of frustration. Let's

3:23

call it. about Ben Simmons thus

3:26

far this this season his availability

3:28

when he is available at his play on the floor.

3:31

He scored eleven last which I believe is

3:33

his season high thus far, jailing.

3:35

What do you make of these reports? There's

3:37

a basketball psychological

3:41

block that he has. Let

3:43

me set the table for those who have not

3:45

heard. When you walk into

3:47

a gym,

3:48

to play basketball, there are

3:50

two things everybody does. Drivel

3:53

the ball and shoot the ball.

3:55

He has the first one. He

3:58

doesn't have the second one. And when

4:00

you're not attempting shots outside

4:02

of the paint, the game becomes

4:04

so very difficult. And he

4:07

can't show up at a charity a bit

4:09

outside. Turn around and

4:11

shoot an air ball and it doesn't go viral.

4:13

That gets in your head, your Kobe. So

4:16

now pre game when when players

4:18

are shooting their jump

4:20

shots to get ready for the game. He's

4:22

cutting. He's slashing. He's

4:25

shooting labs because he don't

4:27

wanna get that psychological footage

4:30

that people are gonna show him missing

4:32

jump shots. and I've also

4:34

said this for years. When

4:36

he's at the line, he's shooting with

4:38

his left. When he's shooting three's,

4:40

he's shooting with his left. But

4:42

when he goes towards the basket, he's shooting

4:44

with his right. And the psychological block

4:47

also stands out because they're

4:49

not steel, their runners,

4:51

their floaters, their hooks.

4:54

And so based on that

4:56

and his health, I just

4:58

don't see an all star level

5:00

player anymore that the Nets

5:02

acquired from the sixes.

5:03

Well, as someone who is a Ben Simmons

5:06

believer, I am now a Ben Simmons

5:08

Apologist. I just want to preach

5:10

patience. I believe in his fit on this

5:12

team. And I believe eventually he

5:14

will be the asset that they traded for I

5:16

have faith in your bed simmons. Don't let me down.

5:18

Because right now, I got one foot off the

5:20

bandwagon. I'm not on the bandwagon yet,

5:22

but I have one foot off the bandwagon.

5:25

Free Shailen.

5:26

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8:02

to the fullest, nineteen singles,

8:05

fifteen mix tapes,

8:07

five music videos, EP

8:11

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8:13

this Friday, Tuesday, book

8:16

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8:18

sure y'all go combat our

8:21

brother from another. Dave

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8:26

What up though? What's

8:28

goody? Oh,

8:29

it's so great to have you on the program.

8:31

Tell us what fans can expect

8:34

when they download, when they

8:36

purchase book of David with you and

8:38

boot of the future.

8:39

Just that authenticity, man, that

8:42

that that that that saying that you

8:44

gotta

8:44

come to me to get a feel like, you know what

8:46

I mean? This is is

8:48

no

8:48

features. Shops, the boot and

8:50

grands, they produce the whole project. She

8:52

ADJ drama,

8:54

narrated the whole project. It's it's it's one of them

8:57

one of them buddies at work where I really

8:59

I really just zoned out really

9:01

want to get in my own in my own world and

9:03

see how that's started with with no

9:05

really no real help from nobody as far as

9:07

future wise. So this is a

9:08

hundred percent me. Well,

9:11

you have to be a

9:13

lyrical assassin to

9:16

do an album without features.

9:18

It reminds me of almost non traumatic

9:21

type. Did you consider

9:23

that when you were going into this

9:25

project? Yeah.

9:26

I thought about it. And of

9:29

all

9:29

the projects I've released, I always got

9:32

features

9:33

on

9:34

each body of work I will I was so I wanted to

9:36

really see how that

9:37

felt as far as for my fans and, you know,

9:40

my real day one supporters. We

9:42

had to

9:42

just be me on the body of work So this this is it

9:44

right here, book a date. So

9:47

you have no

9:48

features on this project that makes me so excited

9:50

to just get a full day of each experience, but

9:52

you one of the best artists that

9:54

gives features to other people's

9:56

projects, namely Lloyd Banks. And

9:58

I'm walking down Fifth

9:59

Avenue the day it came

10:02

out and I'm listening to traffic. And

10:04

I was like, did he just did he just

10:06

say Jaylon at Jacoby out of nowhere? I don't

10:08

listen to it, like, fifty times in a row.

10:10

That is Kate Express. No. how

10:12

much that meant to me and how

10:14

much that means to us to work on

10:16

the show. Tell me why you just said the

10:18

words Jaylon Jacoby in the middle of

10:20

a verse. I'll be watching y'all.

10:22

I'll be talking to them. So

10:24

it it it it you know, it it

10:26

was it was fresh in my mind and I

10:28

and I I never heard nobody else y'all

10:30

out. So I'll

10:31

figure out I'll I'll be the first one to do

10:33

it. That's

10:35

love, and we forever grateful.

10:37

And and I must ask

10:39

because a lot of people may not

10:41

know that you six foot five,

10:43

you stay in shape, and

10:45

you also got a hoop game.

10:47

So -- Right. -- talk to

10:49

me about these New York city t's, which

10:51

you're seeing in Brooklyn, which you're seeing with the

10:53

Knicks, which you're seeing as it relates to

10:55

New York basketball keep ball in the league

10:57

right now?

10:58

ah Is

11:01

is is you know, is is is is

11:03

is is is kinda hard to be a nickname.

11:05

I love

11:06

I love Canadian Calvary. You know

11:08

what I mean? But it's it's we

11:10

need some wins. That's that's that's what I'm saying.

11:12

I think we need a a consistent run.

11:14

We need a good run. Even even when the

11:16

next door of Brooklyn, we need a good run,

11:19

man.

11:20

So you have bars.

11:22

Everybody knows that, but you also get

11:24

buckets, as Jalen alluded to.

11:26

They always talk about that can

11:28

hope Equavo comes to mind, a Shack West

11:30

comes to mind. Are you still out there

11:32

getting pickup runs? Are you going head to head

11:34

with anybody? What was the last time you were on the

11:36

basketball court? My

11:37

ah boy

11:39

Chris Brickley had me in the gym.

11:41

So that was probably the real last time I

11:43

was and I really wasn't going one on one or

11:45

not like that. I was just doing, like, little drills,

11:48

little

11:48

cardio, little, like, shooting around, different

11:51

little

11:51

dribble drills, stuff like, like, that's

11:53

something gotta be my my blood for the

11:55

rest of my life. You know what I mean? I played it so

11:57

much so many years, put

11:59

so much time

11:59

into it. So

12:00

that's something that's just, like, it's it's second

12:03

nature. But, yeah,

12:03

the last month in the gym was with Berkeley. My my

12:06

guy Chris Berkeley, he he he definitely

12:08

motivates me and tries to do. When

12:10

he gets the

12:10

chance, he always tries to sneak me in a gym. We'll get

12:12

me in a gym. try to take me out of the

12:14

studio given Zoom. Absolutely

12:17

shot at Chris Brickley works

12:19

out with the best of the best. And as

12:21

you know, this is your home court.

12:23

So we're gonna not only promote your app,

12:25

but we're gonna show you high school highlights.

12:28

So I have to -- Oh. -- ask you. What

12:30

are some of your most

12:32

memorable moments when you were

12:34

playing ball.

12:36

Just really for me, the

12:39

AAU

12:41

searching was crazy because I got to really

12:43

play against everybody that I'm

12:45

seeing

12:45

in the lead to date. You know, I mean, everybody that

12:47

I'm seeing in us having wonderful careers.

12:50

I I went up against him

12:52

at AAU, Kevin

12:53

Love, Russell Westbrook, KD,

12:57

all these guys. hard and you

12:59

know what I mean? So I was I was

13:02

fortunate

13:02

enough to be able to

13:04

experience that. And now that I'm

13:07

doing music, all these guys of my

13:09

friends, United States. It's beautiful.

13:11

So I have to not just

13:14

respect the new project coming out book of

13:16

David and your hoop game, but you

13:18

also have a store. It's on one forty

13:20

fifth. It's called from the deli. Oh. So I want

13:22

you to explain to our non

13:24

New Yorker audience the relationship

13:26

that everyone in this city with

13:28

their local deli. Oh,

13:30

that's

13:30

that's that's that's your moms outside

13:33

of your moms. You

13:34

know what I mean? Like, if I if if it I

13:36

know food and crab to go to go to the

13:38

store. And

13:39

the and the and the the guy running the store

13:41

is like a extension of your family if

13:43

he know you. because I

13:44

would get credit all kind of different days at the

13:46

store, but I didn't have. So I feel

13:48

like bold diggers in New York is like a real

13:50

cornerstone thing

13:52

that each community, whether it's Brooklyn, Queens,

13:55

hall, and the Bronx, stuff like each community.

13:57

Within each community, they all have

13:59

those. So I wanted to recreate

14:01

my own and call it

14:03

from the deli. That's

14:05

so dope. The entrepreneurial spirit

14:08

and shout the boot of the future. Shout

14:10

the Grey off. Executives the

14:13

album. Book of David. Make sure

14:15

y'all go support that, but I

14:17

have to ask you one more day before you get out of

14:19

here because you're a hip hop historian.

14:22

If you have five albums

14:25

that you could only listen

14:27

to, what

14:28

would they be? Five

14:31

albums? Yep.

14:35

Alright. It would be nice. It

14:37

was written.

14:39

It would be big

14:41

pawn capital punishment. It

14:44

would be styles, p, Jason, and gentlemen.

14:49

It would be biggie,

14:51

life after deaths.

14:54

He's kinda sweating

14:57

on this one. Yeah.

14:59

I'm trying to think. Oh,

15:01

the last one. Probably

15:04

damn.

15:04

You know?

15:06

Victory lap, Nipsey Hospital. Mhmm.

15:09

Restaurant peace, Nip Hospital. That's a

15:12

great call. Peacekeeper. have a great

15:14

feel for your family. Lazamid,

15:16

and this is your home court. We need

15:18

to get you on every other week to

15:20

talk to you. I'm here. I'm here. It's a team.

15:23

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16:08

I wanna talk to you a little bit. What

16:10

up, though? There are

16:11

some topics that we just don't have time to

16:14

dive into during the TV section. So

16:16

we save them for the pod exclusive. There's

16:18

been from the athletic. Before I read the report, I

16:20

just wanna say this, I've been

16:23

a Ben Simmons stand for a long time,

16:25

not just a Ben Simmons stand, but a Ben

16:27

Simmons apologize. you have. You

16:29

know, I think that people critique what

16:31

he doesn't do well, and don't focus on what he

16:33

does do well. However, as he

16:35

plays more basketball,

16:37

It's becoming harder and harder to stay on

16:40

this corner, but I'm I believe in

16:42

you, Ben Simmons. The

16:43

latest report from the athletic is the following, and

16:46

I quote, The

16:48

frustration surrounding Simmons has been

16:50

building in recent weeks within the

16:52

organization. The coaching staff and players

16:54

have been concerned about his availability and

16:56

level of play, with some questioning his

16:58

passion for the game. The

17:00

sources said, But even when

17:02

he did play similar struggles in his first nine games, it

17:04

sees it were part of the Nets' frustration

17:06

as well. Jalen,

17:08

this is not These are unnamed

17:10

sources, so you always have to take those with a grain of

17:13

salt. He has

17:14

not been playing well, so it is natural

17:16

if there is some frustration. he

17:18

is coming back from an off season surgery, didn't play last

17:21

year. Is it

17:23

too

17:23

early to be fresh

17:25

with the level of play and contribution of Ben

17:28

Simmons if you're within the Nets organization.

17:30

Not

17:30

at all. He deserves criticism

17:33

and It's fair because he's a

17:35

professional athlete. The

17:37

main thing I want to

17:40

stress is how

17:41

the Philadelphia seventy six has fleece

17:43

the nets in the trade between

17:45

Ben Simmons and James Harden.

17:48

And the one

17:50

thing about rebuilding or

17:53

reimagining your team, you love

17:56

that fun loving nets team

17:58

with Carys deferred, Jared

17:59

Allen, Spencer Dan Whitty, De

18:02

Angelo Russell, made an HC7

18:04

to see whatever. And then they

18:06

flipped over that roster

18:08

and tried to, you

18:10

know, be

18:11

great player driven. And

18:13

so when you get Kyrie

18:16

and KD, and

18:17

then they get James Harden to

18:20

basically quit on the Rockets to come

18:22

to the net. And they

18:23

only play less than twenty games. I've been telling

18:26

you this the entire time. I would never have

18:28

traded them. I would

18:30

never have traded them. I would have made

18:32

sure I saw them play a seven game

18:34

series and lose, at

18:35

least twice. before I broke them

18:38

up. Straight over.

18:40

There's also the

18:42

the whole Jared Allen of it all too.

18:45

Like, very frustrating. Booking

18:47

table.

18:47

Exactly. And so then

18:52

you quit on

18:54

the net if you're James Harden you

18:56

upset that Kyrie didn't get vaccinated.

18:58

The nets are

19:01

pressured to do a deal. but they

19:03

don't wanna lose heart in at the end of the

19:05

year to Darryl Morey and the

19:07

Sixers who he has the previous relationship

19:09

with. So then they panic and

19:11

move hard. You

19:13

acquire Ben Simmons after he hadn't

19:16

played, you don't know what you're

19:18

getting. And like I've always said,

19:20

how do he pass a physical when

19:22

he got to the nest, didn't play a game, but

19:24

got back

19:25

surgery. Well,

19:27

I have some questions

19:30

about this. As a bed

19:32

Simons Apologist, let me just stand on the

19:34

table and defend it. He got

19:35

off season back surgery because he needed off

19:38

season back surgery. Right? And he's

19:40

only played nine games.

19:42

So after a surgery, shouldn't we have

19:44

more patience? I mean, shouldn't we have

19:46

more faith in this very young player?

19:49

that has been all NBA, all defensive,

19:51

all star. And

19:54

and shouldn't this organization instead

19:56

of telling reporters that they're frustrated

19:58

with him, be working as hard

19:59

as they can to fold him

20:02

in to

20:02

the asset that they traded James

20:04

Harden for, and do everything they can

20:06

to make sure that that that he is

20:08

as comfortable and as effective as he possibly could be.

20:10

because this isn't gonna I don't have to be

20:12

a counselor or a colleges to know

20:15

this. There's an

20:15

extreme mental block for a player

20:18

with point guard skills that

20:21

won't attempt shots outside of

20:23

pain.

20:24

That shoe's my

20:26

point. Free throws. This

20:29

shoe's

20:29

free throws and threes

20:31

with his left. issues all

20:34

runners and floaters with

20:36

his right. there's

20:40

there's an extreme mental block there.

20:43

And what now has

20:45

happened is he

20:48

know it. we know it, fans know it, and

20:50

everybody knows it. So guess what

20:52

happens when he goes to a charity

20:54

event, and they walk past basketball

20:56

who and he

20:57

shoots the ball, and

20:59

it doesn't

21:00

graze iron. that

21:02

goes viral. That gets in his head.

21:05

So pregame, when most players

21:07

are working on their jump shots,

21:09

He was working on

21:12

cuts and slashes and

21:14

layups. I've seen it with my own

21:16

two eyes. He's passing

21:18

it to people. He was not practicing

21:20

shooting the ball.

21:21

He was not

21:24

practicing shooting the ball.

21:26

And so that right there

21:28

The game is so hard when you

21:30

cannot shoot. And so

21:33

that is gonna continue to be an

21:35

issue unfortunately for Ben Sims.

21:37

Well, I

21:39

think what happened in that video that you're talking about

21:41

the charity event in Brooklyn on the pier where he

21:43

shot an air ball, the person I think

21:45

it was Klaxdin or maybe Kessler

21:47

One of them caught it and then missed the layup right

21:50

afterwards. Well, that's worse than shooting the eyeball. You

21:52

know what I mean? Like, the two that caught the eyeballs,

21:54

I missed a missed a point blank

21:56

layup. Like, no. He didn't get he didn't get criticized

21:58

at all. All

21:59

seriousness, there's the

22:02

Kyrie

22:02

of it all too. Like,

22:04

when we spoke about this before,

22:07

his service five games

22:09

suspension is in theory available to

22:11

the Nets last night. road

22:13

trip, finish in Portland, then go back to New York.

22:15

You know, I I listened to Wodge this morning,

22:17

and he was saying that he expects him to join after

22:19

the road trip. But

22:21

If he's available to play, why doesn't he just fly to the West

22:23

Coast and to rejoin his team? Can you explain that

22:26

to

22:26

me?

22:28

I felt when I

22:31

saw the five games and

22:33

realized that it was gonna expire

22:35

on a road trip that he wouldn't be

22:37

with the team, because that would have

22:39

meant him being there the games that

22:41

he didn't play

22:43

also also.

22:45

And so Now

22:47

he's gonna have a spotlight

22:49

on him everywhere they go. And

22:53

to psychologically ease him

22:55

back into the team, And

22:57

by the way, it's his choice. I believe to

23:00

play a home versus

23:02

playing on the role. To your

23:04

point, I believe the

23:06

suspension after five.

23:09

He deserves the opportunity to play

23:11

again. He is gonna play again.

23:13

And I all along, I think

23:15

that next game will be one

23:17

at home. Do

23:19

you

23:19

think this is the last time Carrie Irving is

23:21

suspended by the Nets this season?

23:26

Yes. I do. I think so

23:28

too. Contract here. Yes. III

23:31

definitely do. It's

23:33

time it's time to focus on the game.

23:35

And

23:35

what's gonna happen is he's

23:38

gonna get back out there and play and

23:40

he's gonna give us the ooze and aze and

23:42

a close to thirty points and a fifty,

23:44

forty, ninety.

23:46

oh

23:48

ability, and that's

23:51

what we'll be focusing on at

23:53

that point. So JZ

23:55

met with Jeff Bezos

23:57

to discuss the purchase of the Washington

23:59

commanders.

24:01

Obviously, JZ was previously

24:03

a minority stakeholder in

24:05

the Nets during the Parqir off era, I

24:08

believe. So

24:09

Here's my question for you, Jalen.

24:11

Let's imagine that they team up and perform and

24:13

get together

24:14

in an ownership group. Is

24:17

it gonna be like the nets where he's

24:19

a small tiny baby percentage owner

24:21

but made sort of like the face of it? Or

24:23

will he get a larger chunk this

24:26

time around? I think he got more bread this

24:28

time and more power

24:29

since he's already done it

24:32

before, which means that point

24:34

point one percent or one percent or whatever

24:36

two percent that he got before. I

24:39

think he'll

24:39

be a more

24:41

substantial partner. And

24:43

I just wanna throw something else out there

24:46

too.

24:46

Beyoncé got a billion also. So

24:49

when they come to

24:51

the table, No doubt. Like, they're about to be real

24:53

stakeholders in the team. I believe that

24:55

this deal go down. And I

24:57

would also say that a

24:59

major sports franchise

25:01

is one of the safest investments you can make if you're

25:03

at that billionaire level. They don't

25:05

they don't reduce in value. You know

25:07

what I mean? People aren't losing

25:09

money. They might annually lose money, but

25:11

when when you look at sale to

25:13

sale, it is very rare. that

25:15

an owner loses money when they sell the

25:17

team. You know? The only thing

25:20

owners lose when they buy buy

25:22

teams is games. That's

25:25

it. All

25:27

I

25:27

lose is games. You can keep the team forever.

25:31

It's

25:31

a legacy play. The Bus

25:33

family has owned the Lakers for decades.

25:38

Just think about

25:40

that. And,

25:42

gentlemen, a couple other things I wanna discuss

25:45

with you. Sean Watson

25:46

is returning to Brown's practice. There's

25:48

still two more games in which he's not allowed to

25:51

play. When he

25:52

does take that field, and

25:54

he is understanding for the browns who are not contending. They

25:56

could maybe go on a crazy run and get to

25:58

a playoff spot, but I don't see

25:59

that happening. how

26:02

much do you think the

26:05

the literally dozens of lawsuits

26:08

will follow

26:09

Deshaun White and when he's

26:11

on the road, when the media discusses things

26:13

with him, how often how long do you think

26:15

this sort of stink for lack of a better term

26:18

stick to Deshaun Watson, and how long will it be

26:20

before we look at him like a football player?

26:22

because he's not the only person in the NFL where

26:24

they check or passed with

26:26

law enforcement. all

26:27

of the above. And I think the league

26:29

the Players Association and the team

26:31

really worked with him navigating

26:34

his suspension make it at ten

26:36

games so that he could get

26:38

six or seven games as a trial

26:40

run-in the season. so

26:42

they can have a full off season and be ready to go

26:44

next year, which is why they reduce

26:46

this salary substantially this

26:50

year. so that he much of it even though

26:52

he wasn't planned. Mhmm. And

26:54

so based on that

26:56

dynamic, everything that you just described

26:58

will happen this year. But

27:00

going into next year, I think the

27:03

focus would would truly be on

27:05

his performance But

27:08

also, there are gonna be times

27:10

when you make a disc make those

27:12

types of decision and put yourself in that

27:14

situation. And

27:16

he he would have beaten his case

27:18

in theory. He would have served his

27:20

suspension in theory, so he's allowed to move

27:22

on with his life and his career. But

27:24

they're still gonna be his naysayers

27:26

they have reminded them of it constantly. The

27:29

Clippers and Luca Doncic already

27:31

in Luca's young career have

27:33

sort of like a a rivalries not the what the

27:36

right word. They've got a kind of a back

27:38

and forth. They've got a history. And

27:40

Dodge Dodge's last night had

27:42

thirty five points eleven

27:44

rebounds, five assists, had

27:46

a huge first half, got the win against

27:48

the Clippers. And there was

27:50

a part of me when I saw what the the mad

27:52

did this off season that

27:55

was concerned

27:56

that there wasn't enough around Luca

27:58

to

27:59

truly be effective. But they've gone with

28:01

this sort of central superstar with the ball

28:04

in his hand at all points. And they

28:06

obviously went to the

28:08

western conference finals with this strategy last year,

28:11

can they do this in the

28:13

playoffs at a championship level

28:15

with basically just putting the ball in Lucas' hands every

28:18

possession that he creates everything.

28:19

He's so

28:21

very dynamic and

28:25

You talked about them facing

28:27

the Clippers. He's

28:29

won a handful of people that have

28:31

averaged thirty against an opponent after,

28:33

like, fifteen games. And

28:36

that step back jumper that he made at

28:38

the end of the shot clock

28:40

to basically catapult the mask

28:42

to victory last night was incredible.

28:45

Mhmm. But

28:46

his usage is so very high.

28:49

Once the playoffs come, tees

28:51

are gonna force him to give up

28:54

the

28:54

ball. In

28:56

the regular season, you do

28:58

the pick and roll. He's by the way.

29:00

He and John Morent.

29:03

in different ways are the most unguarnable perimeter

29:05

players in the game. And I

29:07

don't mean to exclude a Steph Curry

29:10

who has is a four

29:12

time champion. I'm just talking

29:14

about as

29:14

young players that

29:17

are ascending in the game.

29:19

And so

29:23

in the regular

29:23

season when you do a pick and roll with John

29:26

Wall and Subatch, they're

29:28

more willing to switch it. And then

29:31

you get

29:31

a chance to cook Zuwatch or Morris

29:33

or whoever's up front.

29:36

In the

29:36

playoffs, you got you're gonna blitz that.

29:39

Mhmm. You just got you you just got you're just

29:41

gonna blitz that and then try to

29:43

deny him getting the ball back. And

29:45

I know that's

29:47

easier said than done and he's still gonna

29:49

be very productive. But

29:51

ultimately in the league, If

29:53

you're gonna be a championship caliber team, you

29:57

definitely need

29:57

a second off star

30:00

in today's NBA. need

30:02

a second all star. Well

30:05

then, nobody on this roster fits

30:07

that description, mister Rose.

30:09

I don't think Spencer Dinwiddie is gonna

30:11

have enough opportunity to get himself there.

30:14

But one thing I have been happy with

30:16

is the way that Chris in

30:18

wood has developed

30:20

I mean, he was a big piece of what they did last

30:22

night. He didn't start. They've got to wipe

30:24

how, quote, unquote, starting. but he played

30:26

more men's than PAL, two for two

30:28

from three, you know,

30:31

fifteen efficient points, seven

30:33

boards, Obviously, you know him from the Pistons. A lot of people know him from the Rockets

30:35

last year if he watched the Rockets last year.

30:38

But can he develop into,

30:40

like, their their center that they're relying on

30:42

the play out in the playoffs. Yes.

30:46

offensively, he's

30:49

dead.

30:50

Can rebound, can block shots,

30:53

needs

30:53

to compete better on that end of

30:55

the floor. And if

30:56

you look at the landscape of the

30:59

western conference, The Joker,

31:01

two time MVP. Deandre

31:06

Eitan, Phoenix Suns. There's

31:08

some big bodies out there

31:10

when you play against the warriors.

31:12

Those dribble handoffs with

31:14

dray mine green, those downscreens, you

31:16

gotta be able to you know,

31:18

do multiple efforts.

31:21

And so that's the

31:23

evolution of his game. And that's

31:25

why I think Memphis is a squad. I

31:27

give the edge over Dallas because

31:30

they have Jared Jackson Junior.

31:32

They have Brandon Clark. they

31:34

have Steven Adams all up front. I

31:37

think the Mazz are

31:37

gonna need just a little bit

31:40

more if they're gonna take

31:42

the Knicks. Championship

31:43

Contending Step. I

31:46

like what

31:46

you did there because if you look at the

31:49

Grizzly's Bags, It's like having a fast

31:51

running back and a and a a smash mouth

31:53

running back. They've got different styles they can throw

31:55

at you. We have Dwight Powell and

31:57

and Christian Wood are obviously different players with different

31:59

skill sets. but not not with the

32:01

variety that the grizzlies have up front. Now,

32:03

Jalen, it's been great to talk to you about basketball.

32:05

We really need to talk about the most important thing that

32:07

happened this week, and that was a

32:09

video from Sean Holmes.

32:11

Now you spend a lot of money on

32:13

your barber. You fly your barber places.

32:16

You know? Like, you spend more money on

32:18

your hair and and, like, they they I

32:20

didn't want the people to know how much you spend

32:22

on your hair. Like, it's embarrassing. It's

32:25

embarrassing how time and everything you put into your

32:27

hair. And as I do this, he is fixing

32:29

his hair for our podcast audience right now.

32:31

Just hinging it and scratching it. I don't know

32:33

some black people stuff. It's just I don't

32:35

know. Fix Curling it. Curling

32:37

it. Curling it. Sure. Yeah. But

32:39

my question is, you saw the

32:41

video. He says

32:42

he pays a thousand dollars a

32:44

cut And then he will pay five

32:46

thousand dollars to have a barber around

32:48

at all times for touch

32:50

ups throughout the day. I

32:53

have

32:53

a couple things. Number one, I think this

32:56

cannot be real. I think he's trying to set the

32:58

price high for as Barbara goes. Barbara little bit of a

33:00

favor. And number two, how can you possibly need a barber

33:02

more than once a day?

33:06

Yesterday's

33:06

price is not today's

33:09

price. each person

33:11

that has twisted or braided

33:13

my hair. Each person that

33:15

cuts my hair, I do one of

33:17

those videos for them. been

33:20

doing it for years. Talk about

33:22

what I just paid and

33:24

how they should be paying it

33:27

to.

33:27

So if they came to me at my hotel and

33:29

I gave them two hundred or

33:31

two fifty, I do a video to

33:34

say that. there's

33:36

a specialty day where I'm eaten or

33:38

I have a commercial or

33:41

a photo shoot or whatever and you

33:43

need them for the day, you

33:45

obviously pay their day rate. If they're

33:47

flying to you, you also pay for

33:49

their travel and pay them

33:51

a little extra to travel. But

33:54

here is what I would say.

33:56

First off, did he's a billionaire, and

33:58

I'm not.

34:00

Second, I

34:02

appreciate him inflating the price.

34:05

But I would say

34:07

if he says he spends five

34:09

thousand dollars per

34:12

day, I bet that doesn't happen more than ten or fifteen days

34:14

a year. Oh, less. I mean,

34:15

it's just since it's ridiculous. I don't care how

34:18

much money you have. Rich

34:20

people are cheap too. You know what I mean?

34:22

I got some rich people in my life. Like, they're just not burning money like that. Like, five thousand dollars

34:24

is a lot of money. That's a lot of

34:26

money to pay for a day for

34:29

someone to cut your hair. You know what I

34:31

mean? that's money for a month, for a family. Like,

34:34

that's that's that's no. Down

34:35

the road. He was in embellished. He

34:37

was obviously in embellished

34:39

in a prime face, showing love to his barbers,

34:41

showing love to the craft, which I always

34:44

do, the opposite of Patrick

34:46

Beverly. I need to talk to Pat Beverly

34:48

about how

34:50

he suppresses his barber's fees. And you, the

34:52

hope of you are. I did that. I've

34:54

got some in common. What? Pat.

34:56

Pat said, I didn't see this. I

34:59

gotta look this up. I gotta look this up. Pat

35:01

Van was complaining about his

35:04

barber coming to his hotel

35:06

room and charging him

35:08

two hundred. And these these these farmers getting That's

35:10

why I stopped getting my haircut

35:12

so often. I would just let

35:15

it grow. I I'm so with

35:17

you right now. Yeah.

35:20

He said three hundred

35:21

is too much. Good

35:24

for him. Good for bad

35:26

bad

35:26

standing up for us. The cheap

35:28

non loyal clients. That's exactly what

35:30

I am. I pay sixteen dollars

35:33

for my a haircut, and I tip fourteen, and I promise

35:35

you I tip more than anybody else that

35:37

sits in that chair. And I'm still not

35:39

happy with it, though. You know what I mean? tomorrow

35:41

doesn't take notes. I might have to cheek on

35:43

him some more. I might have to chew on him

35:45

some more for real. Oh,

35:48

Jalen. It's been such a great day here

35:50

in Jalen and Jacoby. have Dave Ease to

35:52

boost the future on the show.

35:54

We will. And we love Dave Ease.

35:56

There are a lot of people in this industry,

35:58

Dave East ranks up there as one

35:59

of our favorites. Not only

36:02

does he have bars and represent the

36:04

show in

36:06

no sports, but

36:07

he's respected in the game. He pays his dues. Gets by

36:10

When he gets on track to

36:12

anybody not only that he hold

36:14

his on, But when he's in gym,

36:16

he gets buckets, like Jacoby, buckets. I

36:18

love I love rappers that get buckets.

36:22

Jalen,

36:22

they'll win We still

36:23

need our audience to call in ninety

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and appreciate Dave East and

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