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These turnarounds on Dave Jacoby.

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We are Jalen and Jacoby. What

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is it? Let's meet you too. And

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get people.

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What a weekend of action in

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the n m FL A and V

1:01

NBA are Tom

1:03

Brady and Air Rogers on Bad

1:05

teams. Maybe Yep.

1:07

Is LeBron James on a bad team?

1:10

Yeah. Maybe. And that's where we

1:12

are going to start the

1:15

show with this shot. look

1:17

at the down and distance. Look at the time.

1:19

Right? Look at that. You got thirty six in the shot

1:21

clock. He's open from sixteen feet as Jaylen

1:23

would say for a reason. He

1:25

said he was going for a two for one,

1:27

which doesn't make a ton of sense when you've got

1:29

a one point lead in the tight game at home.

1:32

Jalen there's so much

1:34

criticism put on Russell Westbrook

1:36

that, frankly, I don't think he deserves it all,

1:39

but it is decisions like this,

1:42

shots like that. that that

1:44

bring on the criticism. So now

1:46

You're now going three. What

1:48

do you think about that shot in

1:51

Russell Westbrook as a whole? and the slicker.

1:53

Take this. I wish raindrops would

1:55

fall. That

1:57

that's how I feel. That that's what

1:59

LeBron

1:59

was singing as he was walking back

2:02

towards the huddle. And Jacoby,

2:04

it's not just that the Lakers are o and

2:06

three. It's the

2:09

inept to offensively and

2:11

their inability in particular to

2:13

a, make shots from three point range,

2:16

but

2:16

also b, and

2:17

you're not gonna necessarily like this next

2:20

point. It shows how their best

2:22

player's numbers don't lead to win it.

2:26

See what happens in the league Jacoby.

2:28

When you start to get a little bit older,

2:31

those stats may look, would it have to

2:33

eat famous twenty into it. The

2:35

bradley had thirty 188

2:37

Right? But when you start to get a

2:39

little older, this

2:42

is why I don't love stats, those

2:44

ring hollow because they can't necessarily

2:47

lead you for the forty eight minutes. See,

2:49

when you're younger and a joker

2:52

and job and Luca

2:55

are getting those stats, they

2:57

lead to win it. And

2:59

so what's gonna happen with the Lakers now,

3:01

yeah, we gonna show their bad shots, and we're gonna

3:04

show these shots again. So I wanna make

3:06

sure we take the time and breathe

3:08

easy on this. Go back to the Russ

3:10

play for a sec. Now you're a future hall

3:12

of fame or you're a former MVP. You

3:15

know that you're struggling to shoot the ball.

3:17

You know the wild blade? I blame

3:19

Nirkage. Look at the big fella.

3:21

He would He did this he did this

3:24

a few times in the game. He

3:26

would us. he with us.

3:28

Look at the cross of the corner. Look at

3:30

the guy. What did he say? He

3:32

with us. He was

3:34

eight. let me tell you something.

3:36

The the legendary Perry

3:38

Watson, what set in a huddle

3:41

to one of the players that was complaining

3:44

at Detroit Southwestern about

3:46

being open and not getting the

3:49

And Perry Watson looked at that young

3:51

man And he said, I

3:54

love you, but I wanna teach you

3:56

something. You are open

3:58

for a reason. And look at rust

4:00

on these clips. Like, they don't even

4:02

know why don't you be a young man for

4:04

a reason and also a

4:06

d shot Let's not ignore

4:09

his off the backboard, and let's not

4:11

ignore LeBron shot that

4:13

he shot from downtown LA,

4:16

and it landed before it even got

4:18

to the arena. Like, that was, like,

4:20

five feet short. Look at Darkish.

4:23

He with us.

4:24

Even the car named him. He

4:27

held the goose neck. He with us.

4:29

He held it up like it was

4:31

actually going in. If the

4:33

side of backboard. Bam.

4:35

You know how I feel about airballs.

4:39

Yeah. Watch this one. Look at this one,

4:41

man. There's levels of airballs. This

4:43

level's the air boss. So you wouldn't even close to

4:45

close. Well, hold on. But you

4:47

can't be shooting. You can't be playing

4:50

against Dane. tuned from

4:52

the logo and coming up five

4:54

feet short when he's torching y'all before

4:56

you. You know what I mean?

4:58

Like Hey.

5:02

Hey, man. The the

5:04

Lakers, they lost the two

5:06

really good teams and then they lost

5:08

the day in time -- Mhmm.

5:09

-- so far being o and three.

5:12

There'll be a player caliber

5:14

team Jacoby. But here's

5:16

what's gonna happen psychologically, the

5:18

bran. You know what, when they

5:20

say that the the most honest people in the

5:22

room are little kids and elderly, Well,

5:25

Lebron is elderly in basketball

5:28

years.

5:28

And he's not gonna have much patience

5:31

for this. Yep. And you guys don't

5:33

have much patience for this. One thing I

5:35

do wanna say is we talk about the Lakers so much because

5:37

we already spent the national media, but, like,

5:39

let's not forget the fact that Dave Miller had

5:41

forty one points and was just absolutely

5:43

killing especially down the street. Now, here's what

5:45

we bought to do. We gotta do it one better.

5:47

We bought to get Dave on the shelf. See,

5:50

I I wouldn't even talk talking about the

5:52

Portland side. It was great to see Jeremy

5:54

Grant. You know, he couldn't work for my business

5:56

because I love him. But

5:58

it was great to see my god,

5:59

David, burn. See, he won

6:02

one of the best players in the game and he

6:04

was out off last season. And

6:06

he's also one of those guys, you ready for

6:08

this? they win

6:10

because they got him. Mhmm. See,

6:13

remember, every year that the Blazers

6:15

made the playoffs, says

6:17

Dane got there, He played with

6:19

another all star. CJ was

6:21

all star caliber clearly, but he

6:23

didn't play with the most improved defensive

6:25

player in the year. a rookie

6:28

of the year, not like none of that.

6:30

And so Dave still had a point

6:32

of his career, and this

6:34

is what I mean, where his numbers

6:36

in productivity. Look down at the

6:38

stat sheet. And then they only have, like, two or three people

6:40

in double figures? Well,

6:42

three or three. We

6:44

have to move on to another team that is also

6:46

0N3 and they're in a different

6:48

conference. Let's talk about the Philadelphia Seventy

6:50

Sixers. They lost the sepsis in Bucks, Seemed

6:52

like there was a bad body language after the

6:54

the Bucks game. Joel and B didn't speak to

6:56

reporters, so they'd definitely get right against

6:58

the Spurs. Right? definitely get right against the Spurs.

7:00

Right? Especially when Joel and Beat has forty

7:02

points, there's no chance they can lose to the Spurs.

7:04

Right, Chamberlain? Girls.

7:08

Girls. and

7:10

I wanna make sure I say this out

7:12

loud. The east has been a

7:14

revolving door since LeBron left

7:18

Hawaii in Toronto. Go on and win

7:20

the championship. Jimmy

7:23

Butler's first year in Miami. They

7:25

win the East.

7:27

Boston Celtics. Jason

7:29

Taylor and Jaylen Brown. They win

7:32

the East. the

7:34

Bucks and Yanes win

7:36

the East and win the championship.

7:39

What happened to the Knicks? and

7:41

definitely what happened to the

7:43

six Serbs. Are they still

7:45

processing? So hold

7:47

on. You don't go and get

7:49

an the Avengers on

7:52

paper with Darryl

7:54

Morey, Doc Rivers, to

7:56

go with Joel and B, You

7:59

add James

7:59

Harden.

8:00

Therese Maxi is

8:03

one of my favorite players in the game.

8:05

He's the sky's the limit for

8:07

him. And y'all own

8:09

in three. Mhmm.

8:10

And and and here's

8:13

the other thing I wanna make sure I

8:15

say.

8:16

If you play ball, you appreciate this,

8:19

or even sports. Like, there are people

8:21

that can run marathon they

8:23

aren't necessarily good at running a

8:25

sprint because they're two different

8:27

exercises. And when you watch

8:29

a basketball, in particular, a guy like

8:31

Luca, you'll hear people say

8:34

that you can't speed him up.

8:36

So

8:36

what that means is he's gonna play in

8:38

his own pace, get to his spot, get

8:40

his shot. James

8:42

Harden's PACE Jacobi is

8:45

very ball dominant. And if

8:47

you notice in those clips and

8:49

if you watch the game, When he has

8:51

to play with pace, dribble

8:55

hand off run, catch and shoot,

8:57

no dribbles.

8:59

turn the corner, go down the lane. When he

9:02

when it has to be faster, that's

9:05

when he's inefficient. where

9:08

he can take his time. You

9:10

one one of my favorite scores growing

9:13

up was Adrian Dudley.

9:15

and he used to play for the Utah Jazz and he

9:17

used to get thirty and I used

9:19

to love watching them play. a d and

9:21

get that thing going away and shout to him

9:23

right now doing a great job with the kids in

9:25

the community, he get that taken

9:28

massaged dog before

9:30

he go into his move. And he came

9:32

to the pestons, he was still getting

9:34

his buckets but he was holding

9:36

the ball too long. We

9:38

traded him for Marcus Wire and

9:40

we won the championship with the bad

9:42

boy. James Harden

9:44

is used to playing with pace.

9:46

I'm disappointed in the Sixers.

9:48

They have too many veterans, and let me

9:50

say this other thing. as I

9:52

look deeper, deeper, deeper

9:54

into the box score, whatever

9:56

happened to Thibor. See,

9:58

over the last couple of years, he

10:01

stated himself as a all NBA defender

10:03

in a valued asset. For

10:06

me as an organization, you

10:08

gotta still continue to develop

10:10

him into a rotation player. Not

10:13

continue to diminish as many as you play three

10:15

minutes. You play

10:17

three minutes. I'm gonna have

10:20

when you have James Hardin and

10:22

Maxi and MB on your team and

10:24

your Matisse style, well, you need to play great

10:26

defense and do what? Knock down threes.

10:28

And I just feel like they don't trust him

10:30

enough to knock down those open threes because

10:32

we know what he can do on the defensive end, but I

10:34

expect to see more of him because

10:36

he's got to be there to contribute. And I

10:38

expect the Sixers to get it

10:40

right. I do not know if the Lakers

10:42

will get it right. But two other

10:44

football teams that need to get it

10:46

right. The buccaneers led

10:48

by Tom Brady and the Packers.

10:52

led by

10:52

Aaron Rogers. We'll discuss them

10:54

in the NFL weekend right after this.

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Seaport New York City welcome back to Jalen and

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Jacoby, Jalen Anthony Rose.

12:53

There's no way. that

12:55

the buccaneers are gonna lose to the

12:57

Panthers after they just lost the

12:59

Steelers. After the Panthers traded, Christian

13:01

McAfee, and they don't have

13:03

their quarterback or the second straight

13:05

quarterback. They're wait. They

13:07

didn't just lose jailing. They got whack.

13:10

They scored three points in

13:12

the entire game. Shout

13:14

to the panthers, but jailing the fuck it is supposed to

13:16

be better than this. So

13:18

a couple of things I I love and appreciate

13:21

about you and this show

13:23

is that we're gonna cover

13:25

every league, everything that's happening

13:27

real time. And I appreciate

13:29

how we the terms into the lexicon.

13:32

And I noticed while we didn't

13:34

invent the term waxed,

13:36

we said in the beastie boy's

13:38

voice and I noticed that people are

13:40

now saying it that way and I appreciate

13:42

it because that applies for this

13:44

game. Do you feel like Tom Brady

13:46

wish you whatever tired. Yes. And

13:48

not only that, Jay he you know what? I mean,

13:50

if you will listen to page six, which is pretty

13:52

accurate with its supporting, there's problems in his marriage over

13:54

the fact that he's playing football and he's not

13:57

even winning games. Like

13:59

Tom Brady, there was put, put, put, put,

14:01

put, put, put, put, put,

14:03

feel, go, put, put, put, put, like, there

14:05

was so many months in this game. I just could I

14:07

kept waiting for the books to come back. It just never

14:09

happened. Does that answer your question? David

14:11

Jacoby, when you now I send

14:13

that to MGM. And

14:15

I got twenty.

14:16

And I split Kings. What do

14:19

you say?

14:20

I'd I'd say, Jalen, please don't do that.

14:22

That's just a bad decision. I'd I'd really

14:24

I'd really, really just don't want you to do

14:26

that. That's for the five to the table for

14:28

your money and just for life in general.

14:30

And it sounds

14:33

like that's what his better

14:35

half was trying to tell him. because

14:39

he overplayed his hand foul.

14:41

He got seven rings.

14:43

And here's the other thing. My

14:45

God time Brady the goat fellow

14:49

Michigan wolverine. He also got

14:51

a three hundred million dollar television

14:53

a deal waiting on him. Waiting for

14:55

him. Come on, Tom. Like

14:57

like dog, you won. Don't

15:00

quit kings. Don't

15:02

quit kings. I remember

15:05

you said don't split Kingsman. We're actually

15:07

playing blackjack. Well, with

15:09

ML. I have

15:11

to listen. about everybody's like, I just

15:13

kept waiting for them to move the ball and they

15:15

could not move it. And I

15:18

felt the same way about the green

15:20

bay packers. When you have Aaron

15:22

Rogers. It just felt like week

15:24

after week, he and his receivers are

15:26

not on the same page. He throws a

15:28

great deep ball it goes someone's fingertips. You

15:30

know what I mean? It just seems like they just can't

15:32

make the connections that he seemed to

15:34

easily make in the past, and they ended

15:36

up losing two my

15:38

guy, Heineke. I love Heineke so

15:40

much in the commanders. But jailing,

15:42

I saw a frustrated time Brady

15:45

frustrated Aaron Rodgers yesterday. Yes,

15:46

sir. And I'm glad you tied them together

15:49

because I wanna tie the coaching job

15:51

that Wilkes did with Carolina

15:53

with the one Ron Rivera

15:56

did with the commanders. I

15:57

wanna salute both of them

15:59

because so many

16:02

times in sports, people to

16:04

estimate just playing with

16:06

state free, push you in position

16:08

to win if you're playing hard.

16:10

If you keep your penalties down, you

16:12

keep your turnovers down. you

16:14

value the possessions. And in this

16:16

case, they bully

16:18

the packers. How about

16:21

number of plays they ran. They

16:23

ran seventy two plays.

16:25

The packers only ran forty

16:27

seven. seventy

16:29

two play. That they was bullying

16:31

them. And the receiving

16:33

court, Air Rogers

16:35

either can't connector don't

16:37

trust that some of those are bad throws.

16:40

Aaron Jones ends up being the person

16:42

that comes out of the back field and catches

16:44

two T. V.'s form. And also, I was

16:46

thinking about something as I watched Kansas

16:48

City yesterday. I'm

16:50

happy for juju

16:52

reinventing himself, and I happy

16:55

for valdez scantling.

16:57

See, everybody talk about losing

16:59

Davonte Adams. Yep. He was

17:01

a trusted receiver for Air

17:03

Rogers also. And so now when we

17:05

watched him play, don't

17:07

forget. Aaron Rogers is the kind of

17:09

player that has a

17:11

step you with a franchise ladies and gentlemen that

17:13

if he wants you on the roster,

17:15

you're gonna be on the roster.

17:17

He got that LeBron James

17:20

status with the team. So in other words,

17:22

he didn't he felt like

17:24

without atoms, without valde

17:26

and scantily that they could still get

17:29

it done. And when we're realizing like we

17:31

talk about with the Lakers, they can't

17:33

get it done. And your guy

17:35

hynicky, I love to throw in a pick. six

17:37

after throwing a pick. did

17:39

not look good in the first half. He was great in the second

17:42

half. Jalen, we are on ESPN, but

17:44

sometimes we become

17:46

the only National

17:49

Lions news network.

17:50

Yeah. Mister

17:52

Gonzales, it wasn't very competitive

17:55

out there for the long lines. For the

17:57

first week of the season, I decided not to put any money

17:59

on the lines at any spread no matter

18:02

what, and I made a good decision because

18:04

your guy, Jared Montana. It didn't look

18:06

very montana yesterday. Yeah.

18:09

He looked like Montana that

18:11

was thrown into every single wall that was

18:13

wearing cowboy colors. on

18:16

a bad day. And and and let

18:18

me just tell you this, man. I

18:20

I got

18:21

a little

18:22

concussed watching this

18:25

game and reminiscing about the days

18:27

my god Jared Montana

18:29

and our alliance used

18:31

to play on Thanksgiving day.

18:34

And you remember the prime time game,

18:36

who we used to always play against

18:38

the cowboys. Yeah.

18:41

And our member rooting for my

18:43

lions and watching the cow blades

18:45

go up to the lion and screamers get into the three

18:47

point stand up look lever get back

18:49

in the three points. I'm like, that's

18:51

cold. I'm like, that's cold.

18:53

And I was loving Tom Landry, and

18:55

I of the great stars they had. And then

18:58

I'm like, wait a minute. They got

19:00

a lot of stars and we

19:02

don't. And -- Yeah.

19:04

-- yesterday, after

19:06

a biweek. Now, hold on.

19:08

After a biweek, We're

19:11

about to score a touchdown to

19:13

take the lead. Fumble

19:15

in the end zone. And

19:17

don't challenge it. Nope.

19:20

Don't challenge it. The

19:23

next, what, three or four

19:25

possessions. Turn over.

19:28

Turn over. bumble. IIII kick cuss. I don't

19:30

even remember how the turn on was

19:32

happening. I just remember seeing Jared Montana in

19:34

the pocket lose the ball game

19:36

strip. Boom at the ball.

19:38

Over and over again. And and

19:40

III wanna make sure I give

19:42

the Conway's credit and it's good to see

19:44

how hard Zeke is running.

19:46

Like, I'm I'm to see him run it. It was great

19:48

to see a power run

19:51

well on Prescott made some plays in the second

19:53

half. Yep. That Prescott made

19:55

a couple of crucial thoughts. He looked confident. You

19:57

know, it to be honest with

20:00

you, when they started to we

20:02

started to turn the ball over,

20:04

It seemed like the cowboys treated like a scrimmage and

20:06

the opportunity to warm up and

20:08

get ready for bigger opponents. They

20:11

got bigger fifty five. So I'm I'm just hurting

20:13

hard, broken from my alliance, but guess

20:15

what? Jaylon and Jacoby

20:17

go still be at the game. That's right,

20:19

Sunday. When they play against

20:21

two of Tariq Miami dolphins. And we're

20:23

gonna bring them the they won the first game

20:25

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20:40

and recognize the Chiefs. The San

20:42

Francisco forty nineties have a great defense, and they've

20:44

got a great coach and they added Christian

20:48

McCaffrey. They've got all this momentum coming into the

20:50

game and guess what? Patrick

20:52

must I'm still patching my arms. Doesn't matter what defense he plays.

20:54

Doesn't matter what defense he's playing against. He's

20:56

just most licensed to be doing against

20:58

it. classic cheese performance just

21:00

out scoring everybody. And when

21:02

when you hold Travis Kelsey under a

21:05

hundred yards and he's not

21:07

catching four TVs, you should

21:09

win if he has not

21:11

except Patrick Mahomes is spreading the ball

21:13

around, as I mentioned, the juju about

21:15

their scanty.

21:16

And I appreciated that

21:19

because He's my fantasy quarterback,

21:22

and they started

21:23

off losing. And before

21:25

you know it explosive.

21:29

harmen, couple of

21:31

touchdowns. Greeting the football around.

21:33

And it was great to watch

21:35

how they dismantled the forty nineties.

21:37

I I figure the forty nine is with struggle

21:40

because when you get a new shiny

21:42

toy, that's such a great player like Christian

21:44

McCaffrey, you're tempted to try

21:46

to get them involved. You don't know how

21:48

to get them involved if you're trying to

21:50

still figure it out, but I think the forty nine is

21:52

a response, and they'll still be one of the

21:54

best teams in in see. Yeah. I agree. The

21:56

NFC this year, in particular, it seems like the

21:58

foreign owners are one of the best things. Maybe I'll get back to

21:59

the NFC channel. We'll get back to

22:02

giving you more from this NfL

22:04

weekend right after this short break.

22:06

Get a paper. What? They

22:08

won't. Let's do

22:10

that. Look

22:16

at these two games

22:19

on ESPN Week at night. It

22:21

is k d verse Yannett's

22:23

next box at seven thirty and

22:25

then. I'm happy to stay up late

22:27

because it is Lebron. on Lakers, a navy

22:29

looking for their first win against

22:31

Nico Lejocas, the stretch mark five, and

22:33

the nuggets. Of course, my man jail

22:35

in Rose and the countdown crew

22:37

proceeded all except PM. jailing every

22:39

single day we have this program, what do we

22:41

do? Sadly, we

22:43

acknowledge that Britney Grindr still wrongfully

22:46

detained. two

22:47

hundred and forty nine days. And I'm disappointed at this

22:49

point that we're the only show

22:52

that talks about

22:53

this. when

22:54

everybody gets a chance, look down

22:56

at social media,

22:58

look at the television screen. It

23:00

ain't at the bottom of the ticker. It

23:02

ain't a part of the sports story. It a

23:04

part of politics. It ain't a part of news.

23:07

And it's sad that no one is

23:09

talking about this. But we here at

23:11

Jana and Jacoby, gonna

23:13

make sure we acknowledge and

23:14

hope this and wish for her to have

23:16

a speedy safe return to the United

23:18

States. Absolutely.

23:20

Every Monday, I wake up in

23:22

the morning and I'm like, are the

23:24

giants a good football team? Because

23:26

I think the giants might be a good

23:28

in football team, another very

23:31

gianty win, down at

23:33

the half, and then run the ball of

23:35

Sake one Danny Dimes, throwing

23:37

Dimes, and running a in and,

23:39

again, over two hundred in the air, one

23:41

hundred on the ground, jaylen.

23:43

They beat the jaguars. They beat good teams.

23:45

They beat bad teams. think the giants

23:47

are good. And as this game

23:49

was happening, I was thinking if

23:51

the Jaguars win this game,

23:54

giants are who I thought

23:56

they were. But since the

23:58

giants won this game, they're

24:00

better. than I thought they was. And I'm

24:02

good. It's it's glad to see their handcuffs Brian Daybell

24:04

in the parking lot with the victories cigar.

24:06

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24:08

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Jacoby is

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give away some tickets too.

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Oh, let's do that. I wanna

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give away some tickets too. So so

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let let let us describe

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to you what you're getting. If

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So You also get to

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27:28

JAYLIF. Tell me that you're gonna

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be there and or tell us

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why we should give you tickets. And if

27:35

you go to the game, last time I was at

27:37

a giant team, with my god,

27:39

Ben Lyons with the lion game, not a

27:41

giant's game. Me and Ben Lyons watching the

27:43

Lyons. And we

27:45

had a bloody Mary. And do you

27:47

know what that bloody Mary came with? came with

27:49

a straw sidge. They're

27:51

like, we're gonna

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make the straw out of meat and

27:55

you could drink the bloody Mary and

27:57

then eat the straw. Because we

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wanna make sure that we have some

28:02

processed meats in every single thing

28:04

that we serve you. and

28:06

I love that not just about the tournament, but about the entire

28:08

Midwest. But, generally, we're excited for

28:10

that dolphins game. The

28:13

dolphins fins coming off a

28:14

win. Kenny Pickett lived up to his name

28:17

because he threw a couple of picks at the end of the

28:19

game like he did a couple weeks

28:21

ago. And this wasn't a masterpiece

28:23

from either side, but the dolphins'

28:26

defense looked good, but they're about

28:28

to get torn up by Jared

28:30

Montana on Sunday. There's

28:32

no chance they lose. Right? There's no

28:34

chance. The lions only win. I

28:36

was present. Their second win,

28:38

we both gonna be present. You're gonna be

28:40

there. I can't make for that event. And

28:42

here's what I'll say about the Steelers.

28:44

I feel bad for Mike Tomlin.

28:47

That's all I have to say when

28:49

I watched in play. Now

28:51

now they've dealt with some injuries clearly on

28:53

defense. Good. You do what?

28:55

Yeah. When he's out, for the

28:57

year for me. The best defense player in the

28:59

game. I hate the battle. You build the whole game.

29:01

That's a scheme around the guy. Yeah. Right. Other

29:03

than, like, the Chiefs losing Patrick

29:05

Mahon, Exactly. It's only so much you can do. Yeah. It's

29:07

only so much you can do. So I feel bad for

29:09

Mike Tomlin. But but

29:11

also I wanna say it's

29:13

good to see Tyrique

29:16

and Guado make plays like they

29:19

explosive. Mhmm.

29:20

Like

29:21

the When I watched

29:24

them in

29:26

the bingles, them

29:28

in the bingles is like

29:31

multiple guys is constantly ready to hit their

29:33

head on the goal post for because they've just got

29:35

a fifty yard touchdown. easy.

29:37

He's like boy did chase

29:40

I bet I chased to have two

29:42

touchdown yesterday just so Oh, good for

29:44

you. Yeah. I bet on Kelsey to have two touch houses, they

29:47

didn't work out. But one thing we a lot we you

29:49

see, he said it didn't work out. He worked out.

29:51

He did not work out. Didn't have one.

29:54

have one. because I've been

29:56

on to have one touchdown in his core four. I

29:58

was like, there, you know, you just it was the

29:59

sprinkle little something. I need

30:02

to touch down. Andy and

30:04

then the Co Harman scored everything and

30:06

touched down for the cheeks of watching the game. Like, man, why

30:08

do I tie Kelsey into all this. Hey,

30:10

I do have Kelsey. at the beginning, but they

30:12

call it a penalty. Offsetting penalties.

30:14

Oh, believe me. I am familiar.

30:18

you know, I'm

30:19

excited for this dolphins lions games, getting let's

30:21

get to some of the other games, Gillie. I'm gonna

30:23

ask you

30:24

a very simple question. Are

30:26

the seahawks good? I think the seahawks

30:28

are good. Chelsea came back

30:30

out who got injured in this one. I hope he gets better.

30:32

Go ahead. Absolutely. commanders

30:36

Panthers' giant

30:40

seahawks. Those are

30:42

all teams Everything is it. Jets

30:44

gotta be in. But I know I I don't even know what you're

30:46

gonna say, but the Jets gotta be in the building

30:48

conversation. Yes. You do because you could finish my

30:50

census and you just did. The jets belong

30:52

next. Those are examples of great

30:54

coaching jobs. Yeah. the

30:58

Those are examples of

31:03

taking a roster, elevating

31:05

go roster and

31:08

playing beyond its means. Today

31:10

was the first time I heard you called

31:13

Daniel Jones Dimes in

31:15

a year. So it was Dan he was Danny Nichols. You want me to damp

31:17

down to Danny Pennies last year at one

31:19

point? You were still and and clearly

31:21

early in the year, you were just putting your toe in the

31:23

water. You were like online. about

31:25

to just jump all the way. I've been on the Dimes trade. I

31:27

have said on and off wax that I believe

31:29

in dating Dimes. But here's what I'd always say after

31:32

that if I'm being fully honest, because

31:34

if he could just not throw the ball to the other team

31:36

at Fumble all the damn time. Like, his problem,

31:38

he hasn't done it this year. Like, last

31:41

year, he would throw for two

31:43

fifty yards and then he would throw for the

31:45

two picks, they'd lose two fumbles. Like, he

31:47

really just had needed to cut down the

31:49

turnovers. And what he's shown everybody this year is he

31:51

could run the ball. Look, it's too bad you brought

31:53

that up. And I hit up

31:55

Donovan McNab, who's gonna come on the show, and I

31:57

wanna ask him about this.

31:59

The

32:00

game has changed

32:03

and

32:03

don't only pay attention

32:05

to this with your betty,

32:07

but pay attention to this as a trend.

32:11

Quarterbacks a running the ball in

32:13

particular in the red zone.

32:15

Trevor Lawrence get a a touchdown every

32:17

week too quiet as this kills. Yep.

32:20

little slow those around like sneeze. He uses his long arms and

32:22

pops the ball over there. But you got stopped

32:24

on one two in that game. You got

32:27

stopped. Absolutely. And

32:29

so you're right. Daniel Jones has

32:31

elevated himself into one of the

32:33

best rushing quarterbacks

32:35

in the league It's great to

32:38

see

32:38

Segua

32:40

healthy, and it was good to see

32:42

slate and catch catch a couple

32:44

of great passes. And while we're we started this with the Seahawks, and

32:46

I wanna say something, like, you

32:49

could say Matt Ryan's a

32:51

Hall of

32:51

Fame quarterback. And that's

32:53

fine. And you could say that that Carson Wentz is

32:55

is an average quarterback. You could

32:58

say Kurt Cousins is

33:00

a great quarterback. But one thing I about guys like

33:02

Gino Smith and Taylor Heineke, they're

33:04

exciting quarterbacks. You know what

33:06

I mean? Like, Gino Smith is

33:09

exciting thing to not necessarily gonna run for a

33:11

hundred yards, but he can escape. If the

33:13

pocket collapses, he can move, which

33:15

is unlike a kind of Matt Ryan Cars and

33:17

Wintz guy who just goes down. And

33:19

I just feel like with Gino, you've got

33:21

a chance to throw three

33:24

interceptors and throw three touchdowns. It's got like James

33:26

and Light. You know what

33:28

I mean? Like like, I like watching Gino

33:30

Smith and if I'm a if I'm a

33:32

a Seahawk fan, I'm very happy with his

33:35

performance. And If

33:37

you're pete Carol,

33:39

the

33:39

wine tastes a lot better at night

33:42

after the days after Russell

33:44

Wilson. you get a chance to look at everybody and

33:46

say, I told y'all, so this was about

33:49

me. This is all

33:51

about me. You see Walker running the ball?

33:53

You see gino throwing a ball, winning

33:55

with meth cap out. This

33:57

is

33:57

all about me. You know,

33:59

how can I navigate he's so fun to watch. talk

34:02

about Russell Wilson's team. He was on the sideline

34:04

with an injury.

34:06

Interesting. So

34:07

they have Mark Rippen in the

34:09

quarterback side. Mark Rippen's a quarterback,

34:11

and they didn't look great. The the game team, the

34:13

chance Brockville's game, I didn't pay that much attention to.

34:15

I'm not gonna lie because there's a lot of

34:17

games going on, and

34:20

I'm like jets bronchos, I'm good. But the jets did

34:22

what they need to do, they won nine

34:24

to sixteen. And the jets and the giants

34:26

keep winning isn't just wild to me.

34:29

I know who ate, keeping winning, the

34:32

yankees. Nope. No.

34:34

Because the They were all

34:36

there. They were all there. They were

34:38

all there. They'll be Yankee's for winning in the

34:41

fair inning. They're winning. They're they're they

34:43

were winning off. Yeah. They quit.

34:45

They won't win you. And

34:48

here's what I wanna say about that because you

34:50

know I'll be watching baseball.

34:52

The Yankee's in the

34:56

Dodgers. Story teams clearly a

34:58

major league baseball.

35:00

Both of them came up small

35:02

in the postseason. Yeah. Let

35:04

me be the person to say that

35:07

out loud. Like, the the Astros

35:10

got caught cheating and won the

35:12

world series.

35:14

and yankee fans and yankee players

35:16

want a revenge. Right?

35:18

Did they want revenge?

35:21

I can't tell. I can't

35:25

tell. Walkways. Walkways.

35:28

Get swept. Hold on, though.

35:31

Here's swept. Low and leads.

35:34

Hey. Making errors. New

35:36

ball man. Yeah. Need a yay.

35:39

he's getting swept and you can't be

35:41

the Dodgers losing to the

35:43

pored race when they were not one

35:45

of their best players But PEDs. Satish. You

35:47

know what I mean? I am. Who am so

35:49

happy for? I'm so happy for Aaron Judge. You

35:51

know what I mean? No.

35:54

Because, yes, days price is not today's price for Aaron Jones. Oh. And there's gonna be a

35:56

lot of people. His agent's not just

35:58

talking to the yankees. You know what I mean? Oh.

36:00

This agent's talking to a lot. A lot. A lot.

36:02

A lot.

36:04

A lot. teams in big markets. And that's great.

36:06

There's gonna be competing offers in a full on bidding

36:08

war for the man's services and just hit

36:10

sixty two home run, big

36:12

shout outs and judge. We

36:14

always say we're gonna cover all the games, The

36:16

Ravens.

36:18

it was close at the end. My

36:20

god, Jacoby. You know I you know I

36:22

was off Jacoby. I'm back on

36:25

Jacoby, but it was pure mayhem

36:27

madness at the end of

36:29

this game. in this mayhem moment with Jacoby

36:31

Bridgette evading

36:34

the the the rushes to play

36:37

in a row, moving the ball

36:39

down the field. And then

36:41

they get a

36:44

field goal. Raymond's do

36:44

some like coordinated shift thing

36:46

and then the field goal

36:48

goes back five yards. And next

36:51

thing, you know, I think big big. York

36:53

is their kicker's name. It's kinda blocked the line

36:55

and they can't even extend the game

36:57

in the overtime. But

37:00

the mayhem brought you by Jacoby, and also brought you by protect

37:02

yourself from mayhem, and save money by

37:04

switching to Allstate. Jalen, not

37:06

the most convincing win for of

37:09

Ravens, do you consider them still to be at the

37:11

top of the AFC when it comes to

37:14

contention? As long

37:15

as you have more healthy. I I I'm

37:17

giving you a chance. Yep. Right. And

37:20

and and and as long as their defense

37:22

is gonna continue to

37:24

improve as the season progresses.

37:26

And along the theme of running

37:28

quarterbacks, arguably the best one in the

37:30

game is Amar Jackson. And

37:32

it's fun to watch

37:34

them line up with

37:36

a tight end on the center.

37:40

and pitch it to to get crucial situation.

37:44

Mhmm. I love

37:46

the design of that.

37:48

The

37:48

the one thing about Lamar's game is,

37:50

you remember that MVP season where it

37:52

seemed like he had like a sixty five yard run

37:54

for a touchdown every single week? Like,

37:56

that's not him anymore and that might be for the best because he

37:58

is such a great passer.

37:59

However, he had one run-in this

38:02

game where he

38:04

had one got a beat. It just didn't get the juke right.

38:06

Yep. But he was so close to just

38:08

breaking like a seventy yarder and he knew it

38:10

when he got to echoed. But

38:12

like I said, when it comes to

38:14

any team in the playoffs playing the

38:16

Ravens, it's gonna be so

38:18

hard to put money against

38:20

the Ravens' because Lamar is so

38:22

singularly talented US since we

38:24

win because we have him. He

38:26

is a him for sure.

38:28

For sure, he's a

38:30

him. Absolutely. totally agree. And

38:32

two hundred and seventy five million,

38:35

all guaranteed. It

38:37

shouldn't take a dime I'm

38:40

less. Yep. He's gonna look at Aaron. Do you instead

38:42

of going into the office with DeShaun Watches

38:44

contract, he's gonna go to the office with Aaron

38:46

Judge's contract. Correct. He's fantastic.

38:49

Exactly. And let me

38:52

tell you why I got that two seventy five

38:54

now from. The Sean

38:57

two thirty five In the year I just played

38:59

for Forti. Yeah. That

39:02

math is real easy. Y'all wanted me to

39:04

play for it. I'm playing for it. Here's the Forti

39:08

right here. Both. Two seventy five. All

39:10

guaranteed. I

39:13

can't get behind never

39:15

been able to get behind the Titans. Like remember they were the

39:17

number one seed last year, and I think Vrabeel

39:20

is a good coach. You know, I think he

39:22

he he sort of makes makes some really delicious

39:24

lemonade at the lemon that he has on

39:26

the roster on defense. But when you

39:28

have Derek Henry, you've

39:30

always got a chance. And

39:32

they keep winning football games, not granted this one was against the cults who don't

39:34

look good. But the

39:36

titans are gonna win their division and be in the

39:38

playoffs again. And,

39:40

like,

39:40

they went west around and end up in, like, you know, in the

39:42

second round again, like they do every

39:44

single year. Very well

39:46

coached team. and they

39:48

belonged in the coach's conversation. I'm in I named earlier.

39:50

Thank you for mentioning them. And and

39:53

you're exactly right. Without AJ

39:55

Breast, around too. When you lose a weapon

39:57

like that, it

39:59

it clearly is

40:01

gonna affect your offense

40:03

in a negative way. But the

40:05

cult, trying to get Jonathan

40:05

Taylor back going, return from an

40:08

injury, Pittman made a

40:10

couple of big

40:11

plays and

40:12

big

40:14

catches. And I didn't say this when we were talking about the

40:17

commander, but the stats

40:18

don't show this. But Terry

40:21

McCorm was Paul call it. Mhmm.

40:23

I think he probably only caught for

40:24

like sixty yards or something,

40:26

but each one of those catches

40:27

was cut Yeah.

40:30

And that that that

40:33

seems to be how close

40:35

the

40:35

Titans play each week.

40:37

Does not speak

40:38

tacular

40:40

score thirty five each week.

40:42

And Derek Henry hasn't had

40:44

a two hundred yard rushing game just

40:46

yet. We just find a way to get

40:47

it done as they ease into the

40:50

season. Yep. And because they're in that division, it

40:52

just seems

40:54

like they're gonna have a bit of a cakewalk to the playoffs. Now I wanna talk I

40:56

like to revisit the way we felt before the season

40:58

and the way we felt now. And I remember

41:01

from feeling before the season about another division in the

41:04

AFC. The AFC West,

41:06

being like, the Bronco just needed a

41:08

quarterback. They got Russell Wilson.

41:10

The Chiefs of the chiefs, even without the

41:12

chief, they're gonna be amazing. And

41:14

the raiders, wait a

41:15

second. Did

41:17

they? Wait.

41:18

They just got the Vate. and

41:21

the

41:21

chargers. Remember how everyone with Justin

41:23

Herbert's gonna tear up the league? They've got

41:25

a defensive mind

41:28

of coach. they might put three teams in the playoffs. And when I

41:30

look at that division

41:32

now, granted the the Raiders won yesterday

41:34

against the Texans. Well, I think that's

41:37

vision now. I see the Chiefs and then a big gap

41:39

in everybody else. Correct. And I

41:42

must say this. It was good to see Kenan

41:44

Allen return I have him on

41:45

my fantasy team. And

41:48

even though he doesn't didn't put up big

41:50

fantasy numbers like he has over the

41:52

previous years, I have to salute

41:54

a couple of people that did. One

41:56

we already talked about, Patrick

41:58

Mahomes. The other 1CJ

42:01

cups, frost your wrist up, and

42:03

that's all I was saying yesterday because I'm

42:05

about to get high

42:08

point again. I'm about

42:10

to get hot point

42:12

experience. I talked to Taylor. We all

42:14

talked before the show. He's like, I can't

42:16

wait to talk fantasy. And we've had

42:18

an ongoing thing. Well, it's like it's one thing to talk fantasy. There's another thing to

42:20

talk about your fantasy

42:22

team. You know?

42:24

Well, a lot of people who feel like

42:27

I feel about We understand you're

42:29

feeling all performances. Well, let me tell you

42:31

something. People weren't feeling that great about Josh

42:33

Jacobs around week two, week three. You know, I know

42:35

you could pay attention. Josh Jacobs was

42:37

like, is he gonna stay on the Raiders? And now it seems like now

42:39

he's gotta be in the conversation. Like, not just

42:41

fancy, like, if you're looking like top

42:44

five bats, x.

42:46

Like, he

42:46

he's, like, in these clothes. I could probably name

42:49

five that I'd rather have the Josh Jacobs,

42:51

but not ten. How

42:54

about this? For

42:54

drafting, I took Jonathan Taylor clearly

42:57

first overall. Josh Jacobs has

42:59

had two games.

43:02

where he's had

43:03

three touchdowns in each. Alright.

43:05

How many how many time

43:06

Taylor do that this year?

43:09

None. How many times

43:10

did you think he has six total. That's my point. How many

43:13

times did you get too? That that

43:15

that's my point. And

43:18

so The the Raiders offense,

43:20

to your

43:21

point, however, it's

43:24

it's

43:24

it's going to find

43:27

its rhythm.

43:28

It's it's going to find

43:30

its rhythm. It looks good to

43:32

get detections too. Yeah. It's it's gonna

43:35

this rhythm. And I know they're playing against the

43:37

Texas and all, but I

43:39

have confidence in wall

43:41

art in atoms and now seeing

43:43

the way Josh Jacobs is Renfro. Yeah. Renfro,

43:46

like, they're they're one of

43:48

those stocks

43:48

in the season that I think is gonna

43:51

to improve.

43:54

Now,

43:54

the chargers, you know, because

43:57

I kept listening to all

43:59

of colleagues

43:59

around the studio here. You know, we we got

44:02

all those great football analysts and sometimes just

44:04

killing some time in the green moon, whatever. And

44:06

everyone, especially

44:08

Mike Tanenbaum tell me how great Justin Herbert is. Now basically

44:10

like Dan Marino, mixed with Michael Vic,

44:12

mixed with Joe Montana, mixed

44:14

with Tom Brady, you're gonna

44:17

mean, like, it's like I'm like,

44:19

damn. And it's something that's it's also like, I

44:21

don't pay attention to all the linemen, the defensive

44:23

linemen. I know the skilled positions that go like

44:25

the stars on defense. Everyone, the chargers are gonna

44:28

be amazing. Look for the chargers. The chargers are

44:30

my pick to win the AFC. And I'm watching

44:32

the chargers now being like, I don't know.

44:34

I

44:34

I don't know. I kinda

44:36

don't see it. I kinda don't see

44:38

it right now in that division.

44:40

I think it's the Chiefs.

44:43

and maybe the raiders, but

44:44

I don't see the charges or the

44:46

Bronco's making play out. So I'm a

44:48

say the quiet thing out loud. People

44:52

was ready to elevate Justin Herbert

44:54

too early. Yes. And I'm

44:56

not saying that he's not gonna be a

44:59

great player, but he's a classic

45:01

example of a player that because of

45:03

his metrics and his

45:06

talent and his and

45:08

how he how

45:10

he covers the eye test. People

45:12

wanna automatically elevate him into one

45:14

of the best quarterbacks in the league. And

45:17

he name. wanna say this. Just in his defense, I do

45:19

wanna say, like, I saw those rib injuries

45:22

and I think that that's an element that's that

45:24

will keep you on the field but can affect

45:27

your performance. Correct. And we

45:29

both believe now. He may he

45:31

he he he has the i test and the

45:33

potential to be a great player.

45:36

I'm not saying that he's not going to be.

45:38

But what ends up happening is

45:40

sometimes you could become the player

45:42

that he will elevate

45:44

too

45:46

early. And that's

45:46

what I think has happened to him. And

45:48

I mentioned, again, they dealt

45:51

with injuries, Kenan Allen, You

45:53

know how much I

45:55

love Austin Echler. He's a

45:57

beast. But putting

45:59

him amongst

45:59

the top elite

46:02

quarterbacks was premature. He

46:04

still got some

46:04

work to do and that's okay. Joe Burrow

46:08

earns that. You see what I mean? It's it's it's one thing that goes

46:10

to Super Bowl. It's another thing to have some great

46:12

passes to show some armor talent. You know what I

46:14

mean? Like,

46:16

Yeah. You know, sometimes I wanna see you doing the

46:18

playoffs in the big spots. As a young

46:20

as a as a

46:23

young player, be be Joe

46:25

Burrow from me. Come in, kick win

46:27

a championship in college, kick down the door

46:29

in the league, and all of a sudden lead

46:31

the bingles to the Super Bowl. See, that that that

46:33

to me. Well, Ella, what's great example of this is NBA is to

46:36

make you think of Jabber Rand. Like, two years

46:38

ago, you're like

46:40

Jabber Rand

46:41

exciting player shows a lot of

46:44

promise and talent. And last year, like,

46:46

John Durant, when he's on the

46:48

court and off the court, his team

46:50

is great. And in the playoffs, he has those I am him games in

46:52

those moments where he's ready to go to to get to

46:54

everybody. And if he didn't

46:56

get injured, Right. You

46:58

know, that that see that

47:00

series against the the, you know, eventual

47:02

champions would look a lot

47:04

different. And but,

47:06

like, Josh, of those the young players shows

47:08

a lot of potential and then does the whole playoff run. And I wanna see

47:10

Justin Herbert do

47:11

the same.

47:13

Jalen?

47:16

I'm a finally let you

47:16

do it. We're gonna wrap the pie exclusive shortly.

47:19

Why don't you

47:20

tell me about your fantasy? because I because

47:22

last here, you're in like four leagues, but

47:24

you only talked about one, which is basically like

47:26

this one league. I put up like five figures and

47:28

the wrestling league were like a hundred dollars to

47:30

get it. So I'm sure that you're talking about

47:32

your five figure league. And I know who's

47:34

here. I know you're roster just like you knew because you

47:36

talk about him all the damn time. So but

47:39

how many points do you score? Let's see out

47:41

there. How many points do you score? What is your

47:43

record? And where are you where are you in

47:45

the standings? On five

47:47

that's too. Okay. That's

47:48

good. And I and

47:50

and I believe I won four

47:52

straight. Oh, yeah. because if

47:55

didn't start hot. We weren't talking about your fancy

47:57

team, like, around week three. Well,

47:59

because Jonathan Taylor and Kenan

48:01

Allen got off to a slow start. So to

48:03

Josh Jacobs? And show to Josh

48:05

Jacobs. And and here's what I also wanna say

48:08

about playing fantasy. I've

48:10

been playing every year since

48:12

fantasy started

48:14

in football, I still have never played

48:17

Fantasy basketball. It's

48:19

a different game

48:20

the dividend replaced for play. It takes more

48:23

it takes more attention in time. Like, I think about

48:25

because, like, I think you can, like, mess

48:27

around and just do enough

48:30

to, like, feel the team every week and maybe you're not in the wave of

48:32

wire every single day, like tweaking the roster this way

48:34

in that way. But you can do, like, minimal

48:36

effort and

48:38

still play a fantasy football, you cannot do that with fantasy

48:40

basketball. Correct. Correct. And that's

48:42

why I didn't invest in it because if I

48:44

felt like it couldn't go all the

48:46

way in, I feel

48:47

like I know too much to be losing. But

48:50

with that

48:51

being said,

48:53

now that betting

48:56

is legal, I don't need

48:57

to bet in multiple fantasy leagues. I

48:59

need to just bet in my big league,

49:01

the fifteen thousand

49:04

league and then just

49:06

bet on the games. And I have to

49:08

worry about rooting against my own

49:10

interests and rooting against my own players

49:12

and other leagues. So I'm happy to

49:14

only be in one league.

49:18

And so

49:20

how incident, gave me a week where he ball

49:22

he'd been pedestrian though this year for modeling.

49:24

Yeah. I think it was like week five. He really didn't

49:26

do much for first, like, few weeks.

49:30

Yeah. And when we get there, two touchdowns in a hundred yards in

49:32

one one game. Tyria here,

49:34

while he hasn't been giving me touchdowns, he

49:36

gonna give me volume receptions and

49:40

yard. He also just looks so explosive. You know what I mean?

49:42

Like, the I test with him is, like, it's kinda

49:44

At some point at some point, he's gonna have

49:46

two hundred twenty five yards and two touchdowns.

49:49

no way, but it's gonna happen. It's like If you look down and he's

49:51

gonna I'm like, I'm happy. on the