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1:23

my seat, on

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my throne, on my little

1:27

purple throne. I got

1:29

a little purple throne for my little purple

1:31

tushy. But

1:34

I can rule from

1:36

my historical library kingdom,

1:39

my little mental kingdom, with

1:41

y'all little mental midgets in my

1:44

audience. Shout

1:46

out to my little short boys, my

1:49

little sweetened loaves. How y'all

1:51

little boys doing? I'm

1:54

just in a silly mood. I'm

1:57

exhausted. We've done so much traveling. I've

2:00

been from East

2:02

Coast to East Coast, from

2:05

the top to the bottom. I

2:08

went, I flew all the way up for

2:11

the Tim Cass show. I

2:13

flew all the way down for here, drove all the

2:15

way down for the

2:17

controversial Pearly Things podcast where

2:20

we had a lot of

2:22

sticky topics, sticky

2:24

discussions, tough

2:27

talk. She's

2:30

very tall and Sam

2:32

Hyde said that he wanted to train me

2:35

to fight somebody. And

2:37

I said, let's do this Andy Kaufman

2:40

style. I'm gonna fight Pearl.

2:43

I told Pearl, I wanna let

2:46

you look like you could get some pretty good

2:48

punches in. Sam

2:52

Hyde thought this was a good idea, Andy

2:55

Kaufman style. He said

2:57

some other things I can't repeat, I can't imply

2:59

audiences. Anyway,

3:02

it's not clearing

3:04

my throat. It's

3:07

because of the pollen

3:09

here. I

3:11

already know about everything you're gonna

3:13

tell me. I know about honeys. I

3:17

know about bee remedies. I

3:21

know about bees. Uh

3:25

oh, everybody wants to battle and Pearl in that fight. Damn

3:29

son. And

3:32

where is everybody? I'm over

3:34

here on these like gigantic podcasts and

3:38

we're about to go into some real history. The

3:42

PGL episode will drop, I'm sure in the near

3:44

future. I don't know the exact date, but it'll

3:46

be pretty soon I'm guessing. They

3:49

dropped the couple podcasts before me.

3:51

So I'm guessing it'll be coming

3:53

relatively soon. Yeah,

3:58

y'all are welcome for your. new

4:00

banger Quasimodo I thought it was

4:02

pretty hype by the way if

4:04

you're in the Florida area Sunday

4:08

night will be at the

4:10

Sam Hyde stand-up event so

4:12

that's gonna be hype looking

4:14

forward to seeing y'all there

4:16

yeah we got to

4:18

get Pearl to sign on to it though I don't she didn't

4:20

seem like she wanted to fight but

4:24

Sam Hyde thought that was a funny idea so let's

4:27

just go full Andy Kaufman bro guys

4:33

if you would hit like and share where is

4:35

everybody oh is

4:37

it Friday night is that one no what everybody's going

4:39

what what the hell is there to do on a

4:41

Friday night anyway nothing nothing

4:45

all of America is basically just

4:47

a strip mall anyway with a

4:49

damn mattress firm with a damn

4:51

sprouts with a chapatla

4:55

chapatl and

4:59

Starbucks and

5:01

a Kirkland's

5:04

is that shit still exists that's

5:07

basically every strip

5:09

mall and a vape

5:11

shop so what you're gonna go get your

5:13

mom damn couch you're gonna

5:15

get a new vape flavor lemon

5:18

cucumber water mint vape

5:22

you're gonna go get some seafood flavored

5:24

vapes some crab vape

5:31

you're gonna go pottery

5:33

barn that's

5:36

all there is anyway so what what the hell

5:38

is there to do drink drinking

5:42

who's gonna be drinking tonight a

5:46

bunch of fat losers is drinking you

5:49

need to be over here learning getting your learn

5:51

on because as I learned

5:53

of recent of

5:55

recent I've learned recently that

5:58

people don't know anything they

6:01

don't know anything dude people

6:05

don't know anything people

6:08

don't know what a computers is people

6:11

don't know where babies come from people

6:14

think that it's a gay stork that brings them

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in the mail it's

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not a stork that brings the baby a stork

6:20

mails it from via FedEx

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and UPS everybody

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hit like and share share this by the way

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does anybody ever share the shows nobody

6:35

shares my shows I

6:37

don't understand 40,000 people will

6:39

go watch live streams of like creepy

6:43

dudes like vouch and

6:46

you're not over here learning real stuff the

6:51

hell is wrong with y'all anyway

6:53

what are we doing tonight well tonight

6:55

get your learning cap on class

6:58

is in session hush up

7:00

the professor's talking hush give

7:04

you some time out what

7:08

are we doing tonight we are covering this excellent

7:11

little introductory book it's a

7:14

little it's written a little weird but

7:17

it's still a good book I'm so very much

7:19

enjoying it it goes very

7:21

well with our other text that we

7:23

have been working our

7:25

way through which is the Whitney Webb book

7:28

I did make further progress

7:31

in that book and this book will

7:33

tie well in with that one so

7:35

these two texts are companion

7:37

texts we

7:40

got nation under

7:43

you know what and

7:45

then today we're going to be talking about the first half

7:47

of this excellent little sort

7:50

of obscure 90s book

7:52

that I found and when I say

7:54

90s I'm talking about the most 90s

7:56

book cover ever I'm talking about CNC

7:58

music factory designed

8:01

cover. I'm talking

8:03

about things that make you go, hmm,

8:06

things that make you go, hmm.

8:08

I'm talking, I'm talking covers that

8:10

make Freedom Williams sweat. I'm

8:13

talking Freedom Williams getting

8:15

a little frisky over here when

8:17

you see, when he sees this cover. Sex

8:19

being hush. That's

8:22

just the title that I gave it by

8:24

Donald Bower. Donald Bower is

8:26

a historical writer so

8:29

today's text will be coming

8:31

to you from the domain

8:33

of history. And what we're going to

8:36

see is that this is

8:38

a really underrated element of how the

8:40

world really works. That's a crucial theme

8:42

over here on my channel that

8:44

we've focused on for many years. And one

8:47

of the best insights into how the world

8:49

really works is the study of criminology, the

8:52

study of secret societies, the study

8:54

of geopolitics, con

8:57

artistry, con men, and

9:01

warfare. All of those things

9:03

tie together, banking economy

9:05

obviously as well, to

9:08

understand what's really going on. Because

9:12

most people operate in a sort

9:14

of delusion, a

9:16

facsimile synthetic worldview

9:19

where they think the world is as TV

9:22

and their teachers told them. Well

9:25

I got news for you. TV is for

9:28

dummies and teachers are

9:30

the same dummies that watch the

9:32

TV. So all your teachers for

9:34

the most part were dummies and

9:37

if they weren't dummies they wouldn't have been

9:39

teachers. They

9:41

would have been doing other things. Now

9:44

nothing inherently wrong with a teacher, but

9:48

very few teachers actually

9:50

figure out how the world really works and

9:52

what's really going on. Can

9:55

people bring beer to your live events? Yes, every

9:57

live event that we've done allows you to bring...

10:00

your own alcohol. Biob. You

10:02

ever see that word biob? That's

10:05

what it's referring to. Bring

10:07

your own alcohol. Biob. That's what

10:09

it means. I

10:12

sure as hell ain't gonna bring you alcohol. I

10:15

friggin hate alcohol. I'm gonna bring you no damn

10:17

beer. I'm not gonna

10:19

contribute to your tits and your

10:21

fatty fatness. I

10:25

hate alcohol. I

10:27

go to, I fight alcohol. Just

10:31

alcohol. I fight beers. Not people, just

10:33

beers. I

10:36

go to war against IPAs. Did

10:38

you not see my IPA rant? That's

10:44

figurative language too. For somebody

10:47

who says, he's violent. Alright,

10:50

let's talk about some

10:53

of the famous incidents

10:55

in history where

10:58

we've seen, where

11:00

we've seen blackmail,

11:07

sex espionage, and spy operations

11:10

play a key role in turning massive

11:13

historical events to

11:15

the other side. We

11:17

have situations where warfare intelligence

11:20

was divulged through sex espionage

11:23

and it swung the the entire war

11:26

or the entire battle. We

11:29

have dynasties that have fallen through sex

11:31

espionage. We have,

11:33

hey Janet, she

11:36

can't hear me. She turned that dang

11:39

dang ding-dang washing machine on. Actually

11:43

what husbands need to throw out the washing

11:45

machines and make sure that the wives hand

11:48

wash all that shit with that old

11:51

Mennonite like that rake, that big old

11:53

rake machine, you know, it looks like

11:55

a giant cheese grater. That's the only

11:57

way clothes should be washed by all

12:00

wives there should be

12:02

a law on the books that's just a joke

12:04

to by the way before people freak out did

12:08

you hear we said every

12:16

man should marry one Mennonite wife

12:19

just for that for

12:21

that cheese grater for

12:23

clothes the giant clothes cheese

12:26

grater anyway

12:31

we've seen dynasties fall we

12:34

have seen cultures implode

12:36

through degeneracy we

12:39

have seen all manner of

12:43

trickery deception studies

12:46

experiments used

12:52

via sex espionage and that

12:54

includes elements of entrapment elements

12:57

of compromise have you heard

12:59

of this term compromise compromise

13:03

is the details and information

13:05

that you get to blackmail

13:08

a politician or a powerful

13:11

person a leader whoever and

13:15

so Donald wrote his book in nineteen

13:17

what was it ninety

13:22

1990 so far

13:24

before we had the details of this book

13:28

we didn't have some information that kind

13:30

of told us what was going on and

13:33

a bowler begins his text by saying

13:35

that probably

13:38

the most famous element of

13:40

this was the KGB's school

13:43

for swallows and Ravens for

13:45

those that don't know I'm so sorry people

13:48

bitching all the time about me coughing do

13:50

you think I want to call do you think

13:52

I want to be like this I

13:54

know every one of your dumb remedies everyone your home

13:57

remedies they don't work if

13:59

they work don't want to be coughing a treadmill. I've

14:01

had allergies my entire life and

14:04

we move next to the damn swamp. I

14:06

don't know so I don't know what to tell you. Do

14:09

I just move? Just frickin move. Yeah

14:11

dude just frickin move. I

14:13

moved to get away from the Tennessee trees and

14:16

the dang Florida trees are attacking. I don't know what

14:18

else to do. I don't know what else to do.

14:21

I need to go to a shaman, a

14:24

witch woman, a Florida

14:26

everglades witch woman and she can make

14:29

up a damn brew made from

14:31

the skins of

14:33

beavers or some shit and then I will be

14:35

good. I've

14:39

tried it all. You can't just hold in. It's

14:42

not a cough. It's actually it's the air that

14:44

gets hard to breathe. I've tried local honey. We

14:46

have like a giant Jamie's obsessive with local honey.

14:48

We have like 30 of them. Just

14:53

breathe is not hard. It

14:58

has to do with the time of day. Okay

15:00

as it progresses in the evening if you

15:02

read about pollen the

15:04

trees release pollen as you get towards

15:06

the end of the day. I have

15:08

an expensive Dyson air purifier. I have

15:10

all that stuff. So like guys

15:12

come on I know about all this stuff. You

15:16

know like you think I haven't googled like and

15:18

looked up like the things that pop up right.

15:22

It has to do with specifically

15:24

what frickin things are in

15:26

this giant swamp. We

15:30

live next to a swamp and

15:34

it has every conceivable greenery

15:38

thing over there. I

15:40

ain't using no damn Claritin. Claritin

15:44

is big pharma trash

15:47

dude. I've

15:49

tried humidifier. I'm not gonna get a humidifier. It's

15:52

Florida dude. It's the most humid air

15:54

in the world. It's not humidity. The

15:56

air is super humid. By

15:59

the way I think all also the

16:01

geo-engineer spray also

16:04

contributes to this. But

16:07

it is also this region is really bad.

16:09

Okay, so the entire chat

16:12

starts talking about this. What, quit coughing?

16:14

Why the fuck are you coughing? So

16:16

right now in this area, I can tell you

16:19

what it is. Because I can

16:21

tell by my allergic reaction which

16:24

pollens it is, it's the grass pollen right now.

16:28

Right now it is oak, hickory and grass. I

16:31

didn't even have to look it up. I knew it

16:33

was grass. I'll look it up. Yes, it's grass. For

16:35

some reason, it's the grass that makes it the hardest

16:37

for me to breathe in the evening. So there you

16:39

go. Now you got a whole damn report. Now

16:45

you got a whole report. Although

16:47

I did try this honey that has

16:50

datal peppers in it. And because

16:52

datals grow around this region, that

16:54

helps a little bit. Grass

16:58

pollen is actually just weed. No,

17:01

I assure you it's the damn grass

17:03

pollen. So

17:05

we're talking about espionage entrapment.

17:12

I've got Manuka honey. We have all this stuff, dude. Anything

17:14

you guys say, I guarantee you, I have

17:16

it and I've tried it. It's

17:20

not even central Florida. It's

17:24

just close enough to a damn swamp. Swamp.

17:30

Toxic Avenger is over there just like, I

17:33

don't know, cooming

17:35

in the swamps with the

17:38

trees, causing all this madness. They're

17:40

after me. I don't know what to say. Have

17:44

you tried, I've only, have you tried shaving your

17:46

arms? I've only tried shaving my pits. Have

17:52

you tried, nevermind. I'm

17:55

not gonna say that. All

17:58

right, so he begins his book. But you know what? I'm

18:02

gonna go grab a water because this is getting ridiculous.

18:04

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with it when the air on my face. When

22:23

that little

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air conditioners making love to my cheeks

22:29

I can breathe. We got a

22:31

little sex being on going on with the

22:33

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22:57

schools for swallows and ravens this is how

22:59

he begins his book. This is probably the

23:02

most well-known the most famous. AC

23:05

wasn't off man it was just not

23:08

cranked down. I had to crank that

23:10

shit down. So hell no

23:13

it wasn't off. You

23:15

can't have no AC in the

23:17

freaking hundred

23:20

degrees of Florida weather. And

23:24

the KGB had no problem

23:28

with the utilization

23:30

of sex espionage.

23:32

In fact they created schools and

23:35

the KGB operative

23:38

the pretty famous his name was

23:40

LaVentia Beria. Headed the KGB during

23:42

Stalin's era. Originally

23:46

the OGPU became the NKVD.

23:49

Strongly promoted the use of SX

23:51

as an integral part of the Soviet

23:54

intelligence gathering apparatus. They had no problem

23:56

doing this. And of course he mentions

23:59

a few classic historic examples that

24:01

I cover in my lecture. We

24:04

think about Rahab and the Bible.

24:06

We think about Joshua and

24:09

the spies spying out the Canaan's land.

24:13

So those are classics. But many

24:16

other cases you probably are

24:18

not familiar with, one of

24:20

which I thought was the

24:22

most interesting was the Japanese Hall

24:25

of Pleasurable Delights. Heart

24:27

of a pleasure, they're right. The

24:29

Hall of Pleasurable Delights. Does that

24:31

sound fun? It

24:34

sounds a little, some

24:36

of them might be a little STDs floating around

24:38

there. I don't know. There

24:41

was a character from Prussian intelligence

24:44

named William Steber, not

24:47

Whitley Streber, William Steber, who

24:50

was the head of Prussian intelligence in the 1860s

24:53

and he was so adept,

24:55

thank you, at

24:58

the effectiveness of S.

25:00

X. Pianage that

25:03

he created this network called

25:05

the Greenhouse where

25:09

there was a giant network, I'm assuming of a bunch

25:12

of houses of

25:14

ill repute. But it

25:16

was so good at gaining information and

25:18

they would kind of, when a visiting

25:20

diplomat came, they would whisk

25:23

him over to the house of ill repute and

25:27

the ladies of the evening there were all

25:29

government informants and so they would make

25:32

sure that there was a good time

25:34

had by the visiting

25:37

kings, diplomats, presidents, whoever,

25:40

and in the midst of the

25:42

colitis, information

25:44

was attempted to be extracted and

25:48

this worked so well for William

25:50

Steber that Japan

25:52

got wind of this, the

25:54

warlords. Overall.

26:00

called upon him to develop Hall of

26:02

a pleasure about delight and

26:04

no honor and

26:09

patterned after the greenhouse that

26:12

steber had set up in Prussia this

26:15

surpassed it immensely and

26:20

actually was the source

26:22

for Russian defeat in

26:25

the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 can

26:27

you believe that that's

26:30

how they won all of the Intel

26:32

that got leaked through a

26:34

bunch of hoes what yes

26:39

by 1945 the Cold War

26:42

was kicking off ramping up

26:46

and there's an interesting part that I thought was

26:49

a little contradictory in Bowers

26:51

book which is that he says at

26:53

the beginning that the

26:55

West didn't like to use

26:59

operatives for s-expionage

27:04

yet we read in many places

27:07

in his book that they did so

27:10

I don't know where he gets this idea

27:13

maybe his distinction is that the

27:17

West was not actively engaged in

27:19

training operatives for this but

27:22

rather they had no problem of course getting

27:25

information from ladies

27:27

of loose morals and shall

27:31

we say men's of Liz

27:33

morals right both things

27:35

going on supposedly

27:43

Alan Dulles and I don't think I

27:45

really believe this said

27:48

that the purpose of intelligence is to infiltrate

27:50

vital elements of the average series apparatus

27:52

and to build up local defenses against

27:55

that penetration by keeping countries

27:57

aware of the nature and extent of the peril

27:59

by assisting internal security services. So

28:02

the idea is that these

28:04

types of things would not

28:06

benefit the West yet MI6

28:09

and the CIA used similar

28:12

quote safe houses where

28:15

Russians were also compromised. So safe

28:17

houses don't just necessarily refer

28:19

to a place where a spy

28:22

can find refuge if he's on

28:24

the run or something like that. If you watch

28:26

the movies that's typically where

28:29

safe houses come into play and

28:32

yet we're told that oh

28:35

well I guess British intelligence but see I

28:37

did engage this. Now if Whitney Webb's information

28:39

is correct I think it is then

28:43

turns out Justin McAfee was compromising

28:45

people for everybody. All

28:47

kinds of intelligence things.

28:50

So once again this story that the West was

28:52

not doing this does not seem

28:55

to be very plausible. We

29:00

get some of these kind of boring stories early

29:03

on in the book about the KGB

29:05

raven that swallows which I

29:07

have to think is pretty some

29:10

of these stories must be pretty well known or common

29:12

because they sound much like

29:14

the stories or they give

29:17

me the episodes that the

29:19

Americans has going on. So if you remember

29:22

in the Americans I

29:25

always recommend that show it's a great show it's very

29:28

realistic but it's also got a

29:30

bunch of things kind of smushed

29:32

into it that it's not very

29:34

realistic okay. Clark and well

29:38

that's Clark's his name when he's sleeping

29:41

with that boring ass Martha

29:43

woman. But

29:46

I forget what's Carrie Russell's character's name I

29:48

forget her name. Elizabeth

29:51

and Clark right. Anyway

29:55

this is one of the best TV shows ever honestly

29:57

I mean this show is awesome. It's

29:59

just a Phenomenal everything about it today and

30:01

they and and they ended it. Well most

30:03

TV shows Always screw

30:06

up the ending right like lost great show

30:08

and then we get this goofy weird ending

30:15

But they ended this show very well and there's at

30:17

least two or three sequences I can think of off

30:20

the top of my head in Americans where we We

30:24

get stories very similar to what pops up

30:26

in Boers book for example the

30:28

story of This first

30:31

guy here Philip

30:33

Philip Latour a KGB

30:35

entrapment operation With

30:37

a character named Philip Latour a French

30:40

electronics engineer Had a

30:42

wife and three children in the late 1960s. He was sent

30:45

He went on vacation to the Mediterranean and

30:48

decided to visit Russia now so many of

30:50

these stories about these poor

30:52

nerdy lonely men and women And

30:56

a lot of these people operate and work in sensitive

30:58

areas So I'm kind

31:00

of amazed and surprised

31:02

that these people don't really they

31:04

weren't a little suspicious.

31:06

I mean like

31:09

if you're a boring ass boomer, dude

31:11

and You

31:13

know you've been with like one girl your

31:15

whole life or something. You know maybe you

31:17

married your sweetheart You

31:21

decide to vacation number one in Russia and the

31:23

Cold War why the hell would you want a

31:25

vacation in Russia in the Cold War first of

31:27

all and Then like

31:29

a babe comes up to you Come

31:32

on, dude. You got no

31:34

sense at all okay? Nines

31:38

and tens bombshell babes are not

31:40

interested in boring ass boomers but

31:43

what's pretty amazing this throughout

31:45

this book and in

31:48

many of the cases that you read of

31:50

the entrapment operations or of

31:52

these kinds of Raven and or

31:54

see me swallow after operations typically sometimes

31:57

it happens with women, but more so obviously

32:00

with the dudes. Like what is

32:02

going on in the minds of these dudes? Like

32:05

they actually think that some

32:08

bombshell supermodel chick is into

32:11

them. They're totally like the

32:13

most boring middle-class job but they just happen

32:15

to be working at some facility

32:17

that makes nuclear sub you know

32:19

technology or they work at some

32:21

facility that makes like I don't

32:23

know you know black-hop helicopters but

32:26

it's suddenly like a babe is in to come

32:28

on dude it's just amazing like

32:30

the the level of naivety

32:33

on a lot of these people but such

32:35

is the power of our drive

32:38

to procreate it's

32:41

one of the most effective ways to

32:46

get people so see if we can

32:48

find this poor chap I want to see what it looks like Philip

32:52

Latour KGB entrapment so

32:55

let's take a look at this guy this French dude we

32:59

may not have any any pictures of him I

33:01

don't know it's hard to find pictures of these people

33:07

okay I don't see any pictures but who

33:12

knows I don't think it's any of these dudes what

33:17

is this chick who's she what she does

33:19

this the girl that entrapped him oh it's

33:21

like a picture I'm sick of all these

33:23

AI pictures flooding everywhere making everything confusing you

33:25

can't tell what's real and what's not anyway

33:27

so there's no pictures nobody knows about this guy but

33:31

a lot of these stories are very similar

33:33

to what we see in

33:35

the episodes of Americans if you've never seen it

33:37

highly recommend it the

33:41

next example is the case I think

33:44

in the very first season Kerry Russell

33:46

entraps some nerdy government dude do you

33:48

remember that when she's all like it's

33:51

pretty a little risque and then

33:53

then Clark

33:56

who is the the main

33:58

character here he's and traps this

34:00

woman who works at the State Department, I

34:02

think, and he develops this

34:05

relationship with her. And he pretends to

34:07

be also working at a government job

34:09

that doesn't allow him to divulge

34:12

much information or

34:14

that he can't have a normal relationship with

34:16

her because of his spy work. And

34:20

so he

34:23

dons this very nerdy appearance, which is pretty

34:25

funny. Here's Clark, and

34:27

here's Clark seducing Martha, as you can see.

34:31

And this is, I think, very accurate. This is very realistic.

34:34

And the next story that he

34:37

gives us as his example is

34:39

the exploits of a raven named Hans

34:42

Sutterlin. And Hans Sutterlin

34:44

is trained in Moscow to go after

34:46

and entrap, I think, a

34:49

secretary at NATO. And

34:53

this is very close to the type

34:56

of story that you have with Clark and Martha. So

35:00

I tend to think maybe a lot of Clark, these

35:03

kinds of stories that we read here. Anyway,

35:06

so he entraps this woman, let's

35:09

see what her name was, Leonore

35:13

Hines. She

35:18

was a lonely spinster. Yeah, this is

35:20

exactly like Martha. And

35:22

I think she ends up killing herself. One of

35:24

these women ends up killing herself unaliving

35:27

because of the trauma.

35:32

Now, some of these people, the situations

35:34

get really tense too, because they're forced

35:36

into working for these entities and they're

35:39

told that they don't, then

35:41

they will be put in

35:43

some sort of prison, Lubyanka

35:47

or something, or they will be

35:49

exposed in their home country. So

35:52

that's, of course, the point of the law, the

35:54

entrapment. But he

35:57

notes that the recruiting of

35:59

training, of espionage agents, including swallows

36:01

and ravens, is

36:04

a unique aspect of the Soviet system. In

36:06

the United States, they do not obtain

36:09

recruits from... excuse me, the United States

36:12

and Western countries obtain recruits from the military

36:14

or from selected men

36:16

and women of all

36:18

walks in life who combine their espionage

36:20

activities with regular

36:23

normal ways of making a living. During

36:26

the Cold War, Russians however, chose their

36:28

people very carefully acquiring all the necessary

36:30

background information and submitting their potential spies

36:32

to rigid course training. So

36:35

you get to go to hump school,

36:38

which you get your PhD at at

36:42

PU. I

36:44

went to hump school, got a PhD, got

36:48

a PhD in D. Y'all

36:52

laughing like I'm like it's fun over here coughing.

36:55

Oh, I can't wait to get on live

36:57

stream and cough. I'm gonna cough at them

36:59

people. Y'all

37:02

just mad because I got, I'm a

37:04

valedict, I'm a valedictorian of hump school.

37:09

I'm trying man, I'm trying, I don't know what you want me

37:11

to do. I'm trying my best over here. I

37:16

got a pimp and hose degree, a

37:18

PhD at NKVD. I got a PhD

37:21

from the NKVD, or

37:23

the valedictorian D. And

37:27

we just dropped 100 people for that joke. Where

37:30

are y'all, where are you going? There's

37:32

nothing else going on tonight. I assure you of

37:34

that. This is where it's

37:36

at. Anyway,

37:42

the majority of spies for Russian and communist

37:44

nationals of the country in which they operate

37:46

fall into two categories, those who believe strongly

37:48

in the ideology and they

37:50

are willing to or those who are willing

37:52

to betray or those who could be black men. This

37:55

is very common. This reminds us of

37:57

what? We

38:02

went into detail recently on several

38:04

podcasts when this actually, Pearl

38:07

actually asked us a bunch of questions about MICE,

38:09

you guys remember MICE? Money,

38:12

ideology, compromise and ego. Those

38:15

are typically the things that are

38:18

used to compromise people. Now

38:22

this also recalls the Americans, this chapter

38:24

because he says that there

38:27

was the Marx-Engels sex school set

38:29

up outside of Moscow. This

38:32

is pretty crazy. Have

38:34

you ever heard of this? I've never heard of this. Let's see if

38:36

we can find this, the Marx. We

38:40

might get something else. Maybe I shouldn't type that in.

38:47

But it's just pretty wild that

38:49

nobody knows about this and

38:53

yet this was a

38:56

huge part of our

38:58

history. Okay,

39:01

so nothing comes up but of course you can't

39:03

trust any of this Wikipedia stuff anyway because they

39:07

don't even pull up. Basically the search engines

39:09

don't hardly work anymore. But

39:12

if you remember in the Americans there was that

39:14

key sequence where they flashed back to the training

39:18

of the main guy and

39:20

Kerry Russell. They

39:22

were trained in a completely synthetic

39:25

Soviet version of

39:27

America. So the Soviets would build these

39:30

entire American neighborhoods and

39:32

towns to train their

39:34

illegals operatives. The Americans as

39:36

you guys know is about the illegals.

39:38

The illegals being Director S of the

39:40

KGB where they were trained to come

39:43

over into and embed themselves and live

39:45

in America as Americans their entire life

39:47

almost. Become an

39:49

American family and

39:52

to engage in really important

39:55

operations espionage buying whatever

39:58

was needed. the

40:01

illegals were not the ones that,

40:03

for example, would engage in assassinations.

40:05

There was a whole other arm of the

40:07

KGB that was dealing with assassinations, but

40:11

in the movie, in the show, the Americans are

40:13

gonna combine it into this kind

40:15

of unrealistic situation where basically Carrie

40:17

Russell's like sexually entrapping somebody, she's

40:19

going and assassinating somebody else, and

40:21

then she's driving home to make

40:23

dinner for her family, like in

40:25

the same day. I mean, come

40:27

on, that's a little much, but

40:33

now why are we talking about this in the

40:35

fake neighborhoods? Because think

40:37

about the extent to which the Soviet

40:40

version, you could say, of MKUltra

40:43

here. Think how extensive

40:45

and in depth this is. They're

40:48

building entire fake American neighborhoods,

40:51

and this is real, so

40:54

that these agents would go and they would live

40:56

in these American neighborhoods when they're young. In

41:00

this story, they're paired up, Carrie

41:02

Russell and, I forget the guy's name,

41:05

they're paired up and

41:07

put into the neighborhood which

41:11

has a mall, a movie

41:13

theater, like

41:15

a school, apartment, and

41:19

they lived there for two or three years. They

41:21

learned English, everything

41:23

about American culture. I

41:26

wish I could pull up the, maybe

41:31

I could let you know what, you guys should watch that

41:33

scene. Let's see if there's a clip of that. And

41:38

I'll put it in the chat for you

41:40

guys, you guys can watch it later, but

41:42

let's see. The Americans fake neighborhood. Let's

41:50

try that. Okay. All

41:54

right, because I don't remember which episode it is. Oh

42:01

here we go. No. Stan

42:06

discovers Philip is a spy. That's a famous

42:08

scene. Let's

42:11

see, the Americans, Soviet...

42:21

Alright, well I

42:23

don't think anything's going to come up but you

42:27

get the idea. Now

42:32

here's the thing about the fake neighborhoods I was getting at because if

42:37

they're going to that extent in terms

42:39

of training their operatives in sort of

42:41

fake American neighborhoods, then

42:44

we find out as Bower writes in his

42:46

book that they made

42:48

a masterful study so

42:50

to speak of everything to do with

42:52

SCX to the

42:55

extent that... Well let me

42:57

read what he says. Those enrolled

42:59

in these schools received lectures on everything to

43:01

do with the habits of the target country

43:03

where they're going. In

43:05

these fake cities they live in surroundings

43:07

built to stimulate the towns and the

43:09

areas in which they'll be operating. Very

43:11

much like a Hollywood movie set, supermarkets,

43:13

movie theaters, shops, people wear

43:16

the costumes of their adopted residents to

43:19

become part of that everyday life. Meticulous attention

43:21

is given to every detail. How

43:23

to purchase the bus ticket, tickets

43:25

to the movies, ordering a meal, the

43:28

proper amount to tip in that country. Men's

43:30

magazines are studied. This

43:33

is back in the Cold War. Prawn

43:37

movies are imported and

43:39

are shown regularly to the operatives.

43:42

Why is this? Well, men

43:44

chosen to be ravens are required to

43:47

sleep with their girlfriends to lose all

43:49

inhibitions and are ordered to make and

43:51

to indulge in Skittles activities

43:53

with other men. All

43:56

of the students learn how to drug, to take

43:59

the drug, to take the drug. care of

44:01

people in emergency situations with unaliving cigarettes

44:03

candy or whatever can be used. Soviets

44:06

who enter this branch of the KGB are unaware

44:08

of the kind of training they will undergo to

44:11

the extent of the degradation that they

44:13

suffer by offering themselves to

44:15

the service of their country

44:18

or ideology Marxism. From

44:22

the beginning these agents are taught that the

44:24

use of SCX as an espionage tool is

44:26

a patriotic duty. So

44:29

did you notice that they're intentionally

44:32

degraded? Now

44:34

think about this, if

44:37

the Soviets had figured out ways

44:40

to create entire fake neighborhoods

44:42

and SCX schools to degrade

44:44

and mind control their

44:46

operatives into being this, do

44:49

you think that the West and

44:52

the CIA and the pop stars and

44:54

the other intelligence agencies in the West, do you think

44:56

they wouldn't be doing the same thing? Of course they

44:58

would. Are there any morals?

45:02

I mean come on. They're

45:06

not constrained by it. So everybody in Eurasia

45:08

is immoral and everybody in the West is

45:10

moral. Come on, are you that naive? This

45:12

is silly. In

45:15

other words, this is another attestation

45:18

to the reality of perhaps

45:22

people even in the pop scene undergoing

45:25

similar types of things. Do

45:27

you see what I'm saying? If agents

45:29

can be trained in foreign countries to

45:32

be handled SCX slaves, it

45:34

does seem plausible that it could

45:37

occur in our country

45:39

as well via like a lightning

45:42

or something. You see what I'm getting at? Let

45:45

me clear my throat. This

45:52

has honey in it so I'm trying to do my

45:54

best. Now

45:59

we don't know. know if now I think this

46:01

is the fake cities and the sex sex schools

46:03

were real do you guys remember we covered we

46:05

did an analysis back at the time in a

46:08

red Sparrow I did not think this was a very

46:10

good movie I think it was a lot of propaganda

46:13

but it did have

46:15

some elements to it

46:17

remember with J law remember J law

46:21

this movie is about what I'm talking about

46:24

and did nobody watch this it's a 33

46:26

million views nobody remembers this come on y'all know

46:28

what's up we all

46:30

that so J law

46:32

is she's a Russian you

46:35

know ballerina or whatever and she's recruited

46:37

into this school

46:40

or one of these she sent to

46:42

one in Kazakhstan right and

46:46

you know then

46:48

this is her being sent on

46:50

her first mission to to entertain

46:53

this diplomat

46:56

or whatever I forget all

46:58

the details of it but

47:02

here she is flashing back when she

47:04

sent to her school

47:07

and then they got this woman that's like Rosa Club

47:09

I think they

47:11

actually intentionally chose like a Rosa Club

47:13

type woman now if

47:15

you don't remember this is her right here in

47:18

the old James Bond stories that's why

47:21

Ian Fleming put Rosa Club in this

47:23

very position and

47:26

in the one with the

47:30

Turkish intelligence guy and Bay

47:32

B why that bond goes

47:34

and talks to enter in Constantinople

47:37

is that dr. no Rosa

47:41

Club is the handler to the

47:44

blonde woman that bond I

47:47

don't know he does he flip her

47:49

to the West I can't remember but it's been

47:51

a while since I've watched dr. no but I

47:54

think that's dr. no with where where he

47:57

goes to Turkey right But

48:02

it's very similar to this and these things

48:04

are both of these situations are based in reality

48:06

so you have this sort of Rosa Club woman

48:08

and Rosa Club is intended to be a LESBIAN

48:14

like my glasses because

48:17

the idea is that in these SEX

48:19

schools people are being taught this

48:23

and they're being degraded and

48:25

initiated into this operative role.

48:28

Of course J-Law is, you know,

48:31

she's super soldier,

48:34

sleigh queen and she, you know,

48:37

whatever and then what's

48:39

this guy's name? I forget his name. He's

48:41

a Russian or whatever. Yeah,

48:43

sure. But

48:49

now remember the

48:57

West of course is

49:00

a super moral about old, oh we're so moral

49:03

we're so moral and then yet the West pushes

49:06

all the most DGen

49:08

stuff, right? So

49:13

it's like, oh look how evil NKVD

49:16

was and yeah I think the NKVD was

49:18

evil. This is evil to put, it's evil

49:20

to put people into this to ruin their

49:23

lives and do this kind of stuff, right?

49:25

Government funded, you

49:28

know, mind control, SEX control, right? And

49:32

yet our

49:35

entire apparatus in the West from

49:37

the top down, the corporate elite

49:39

down pushes stuff worse than

49:41

this. So

49:44

where's all the moralizing actually? Makes no

49:46

sense. They're

49:49

both bad is my point. Are

49:51

you a KGB operative? No I'm

49:53

saying they're both bad. You can't

49:56

understand that two sides are bad. So,

50:02

he gives a few cases like this of

50:04

kind of stories that are kind of boring.

50:06

I'll pass those. It was just basically people

50:08

being manipulated at a basic

50:10

level about, you know, being

50:13

lonely and looking for companionship. And

50:15

it's usually just some naval engineer

50:17

guy who's nerdy. And

50:20

again, this hot Russian chick or hot

50:23

German chick, you know,

50:25

chats him up and he's like totally in trance

50:27

because he thinks he's a Mac Daddy when he's

50:29

like a boring boomer or beta man. And

50:33

he falls. But

50:35

the next and most interesting element that I did not

50:38

know that did surprise

50:40

me. Oh,

50:42

by the way, there was a story too

50:44

where the KGB engineered a fake R.A.P.E.

50:47

case. And

50:50

it was somebody high profile. Let's see

50:52

who it was. Oh,

50:56

this was the Philip Latour guy. So this was a

50:58

French guy we're talking about earlier. And

51:01

they gave him a bunch of drinks

51:03

of wine. He was chatting it up with this babe. And

51:09

they put a woman around him when he passed out

51:11

when he was drugged. And he woke

51:13

up and she ran

51:15

away claiming that she had been R.A.P.E.D.

51:19

So then the KGB had this apparent

51:22

R.A.P.E. situation. And

51:26

they were blackmailing this guy to get

51:29

information on whatever radio technology

51:31

he was working on during the Cold War for

51:34

the French government. But

51:37

I think this guy disclosed what happened. So he didn't

51:39

actually he lost his job in

51:41

a security clearance, but he didn't end up, you

51:44

know, destroyed by the KGB. So

51:47

that's very reminiscent in the

51:50

Americans in the

51:52

episode where they entrap and

51:54

stage a scenario with I

51:57

think he's a Polish diplomat, if I recall. There's

52:00

like a UN meeting. Maybe it's supposed to be

52:02

something akin to lack of a less. I Don't

52:06

think it's intentionally like Melissa. I think in

52:08

the Americans. It's like somebody Who

52:11

works with like Melissa and the KGB? Kerry

52:15

Russell or somebody like does this type of

52:17

thing? Now here's

52:19

the really crazy part. Did you know

52:22

I did not know this. I Don't

52:25

know a whole lot about Che Guevara. I'm not

52:27

super well studied on Latin

52:29

South America, you know operations and all that know

52:31

a little bit. I've read Sir Vondo

52:34

Gonzalez's book but but Sir Vondo's book is about Castro

52:38

So I don't know much about Che if it turns out Che

52:42

was being spied on and was

52:46

being kind of I would

52:48

say manipulated but The

52:50

intention was to manipulate Che

52:53

via his girlfriend This

52:55

Latin American or the sky

52:57

color his steamy steamy Latin

53:00

American girlfriend Or

53:02

Bolivian girlfriend. Let's see. Let's see who she was Laura

53:06

Martinez Lara Martinez April

53:10

April you better get this you better get a

53:12

steamy girl out of here, bro. She's

53:14

barely gonna spy on me, bro She

53:19

was sent by the KGB

53:21

to spy on Che

53:24

Because Che was not following everything

53:27

that the Soviet Party line wanted

53:30

And I've heard some other dudes pretty well studied in

53:32

the history of Che again I don't know much about

53:34

Che but they were arguing the same thing that actually

53:36

Che was a little more off script

53:39

than Castro and this

53:42

is actually the reason why Che was taken

53:45

out and This

53:47

girlfriend was a big part of this.

53:50

So she was Informing and spying

53:52

on him the entire time to the

53:54

KGB and they wanted to make sure that

53:56

they kept Che in line and

54:00

Boward says after a matter

54:02

of months, Che had built up a substantial army. However,

54:04

the Soviets were concerned that Che was

54:07

preaching a creed of Marxism that

54:10

the USSR didn't exactly want. He

54:12

was becoming a little too powerful and the

54:15

girlfriend was given orders to

54:17

betray the guerrilla revolution. So

54:20

excuse me, this

54:22

is a different, this is a different girl, Tanya. Let's

54:26

see, I thought we were talking about Laura. Let's hold on,

54:28

I'm getting confused with Che's girlfriends here. All right. Okay,

54:46

I'm sorry. So Tanya is Laura Martinez's code

54:48

name, excuse me. That's why I was confused.

54:52

So it turns out she

54:55

was spying on him, she was informing on him and the

54:57

KGB and putting pressure on her to

54:59

get him in line or to undermine

55:01

his revolution. And

55:05

it ended up not

55:09

working. It

55:13

says Tanya was given orders to betray Che. In

55:17

1967, she passed information to

55:19

General Juan Jose Torres, the

55:21

Bolivian Chief of Staff, giving away

55:24

the location of Che's guerrilla camps.

55:26

Che was captured and shot by the

55:28

Bolivian Army Sergeant and Tanya

55:31

was then reportedly killed in an ambush,

55:34

but her body was never found. So

55:36

the whole, so basically Che

55:39

got screwed over by this chick and

55:42

that's why his whole thing failed. And

55:45

I'm guessing that she leaked his location

55:48

to the right wing government, which is

55:50

ironic because let's

55:53

see who that was. the

56:01

Bolivian leader Juan Jose

56:03

Torres hey

56:06

bro you better you

56:08

better get this chick out of here bro she's

56:10

barely gonna betray you man but

56:16

for real like she's barely gonna betray

56:18

you Juan

56:24

Jose Torres yeah

56:29

he definitely looks like a right-wing

56:32

leader no socialist

56:34

he's not so

56:37

I guess he's a rival to Che 50th

56:42

president of Bolivia he

56:48

was murdered in the

56:51

frame of United States-backed Operation Condor

56:53

by the way of course Pope

56:55

Francis participated in Operation Condor

56:57

if you didn't know aiding

57:01

let's see though

57:05

most military leaders in Latin America been associated

57:07

with right-wing Torres was a

57:09

left-wing socialist but I guess he didn't

57:12

like Che

57:22

all of this Latin South American

57:24

Cold War stuff it's like a giant

57:27

thing I don't know that much about it that's not that's

57:29

not my I mean I know a little bit but it's

57:32

it's its own just in I mean it's just

57:35

you can spend your whole

57:37

life on like CIA Soviet

57:39

operations in Latin South America

57:41

anyway the

57:44

next case that he talks about that I

57:46

didn't know about was under

57:48

Czar Nicholas the first and

57:51

so the Imperial Russian

57:53

Imperial Secret Service was known as

57:55

the Okrana okrana

58:01

And one of its notable spies was a 23 year

58:04

old traveling salesman named Zveno

58:08

Yevno Azev. He

58:12

was from a small town of Liskovo,

58:14

Russia and finding himself

58:16

in financial problems he

58:20

escaped to Germany. Throughout

58:24

his money woes living in Germany

58:26

he would keep contact with the

58:28

Russian police and would try

58:30

to get information to sell the names of revolutionaries

58:33

in Germany for a price. So

58:35

he was informing and spying on the

58:37

leftist and the socialist. In

58:41

1894 he moved to Bern

58:44

and married and joined the Union

58:47

Russian revolutionaries. He was

58:49

throughout this time a double agent and this reminds

58:51

me of kind of some of the stuff that

58:53

we read about in Dostoyevsky's stories

58:55

right where we have these socialists and then we have

58:57

the you know

58:59

the Zara secret police trying

59:01

to stamp out the socialists.

59:06

And he has ended

59:08

up creating a good position for his favorite

59:10

spy as an engineer in the General Electric

59:12

Company. This enabled Azev to work

59:14

at the center of the revolutionary movement. He was

59:16

very clever as a spy and was never suspected

59:18

as a double agent even though he was for

59:21

pretty much most of his life. He ended up

59:23

kind of undermining a whole

59:25

bunch of socialist operations and efforts. There

59:28

was a couple times where it looked like he was

59:30

going to be caught and executed and

59:33

yet he masterfully

59:36

made his way through these operations. Man

59:38

that's so hard to breathe. I'm

59:45

doing everything I can. Now

59:57

his story doesn't end because One

1:00:00

summer evening in St. Petersburg, he attended

1:00:03

a cafe where he became enchanted with

1:00:05

one of the local entertainers, a woman

1:00:07

named Hedy de Hero.

1:00:12

She became his mistress. Hedy was

1:00:14

a German girl who entertained as a singer,

1:00:16

but her warm smile and sparkling eyes and

1:00:19

shapely figure were her main

1:00:21

attributes. Before meeting Azov, she had been one

1:00:23

of the party girls who attended the wild

1:00:25

affairs of Grand Duke Cyril. And

1:00:28

his fun-loving brother Boris. It was all great

1:00:30

fun. It was also

1:00:32

profitable for the showgirl, and by the time

1:00:34

that the Russo-Japanese war was over, she had

1:00:37

made 50,000 rubles with

1:00:41

which she foolishly invested in a

1:00:43

Siberian goldmine. Mr.

1:00:45

Azov, who was 39 when he

1:00:48

met Hedy, posed as a

1:00:50

prosperous merchant who enjoyed the company of Beautiful

1:00:52

Women. His wife knew him

1:00:54

only as a dedicated revolutionary, but all of

1:00:56

this time he was playing his double role

1:00:58

as a secret agent. Yev

1:01:03

knows life changed when he met Hedy and arrived on

1:01:05

the scene, and she envisioned

1:01:07

him as a delightful man with whom she fell in love.

1:01:11

They spent every moment together. And

1:01:14

of course this fell apart because the

1:01:16

revolutionaries began to question, why

1:01:19

are you living such an extravagant lifestyle if you're

1:01:21

a socialist communist? Feeling the

1:01:23

pressure, Azov took

1:01:26

Hedy his mistress to Germany. He

1:01:30

left with her parents and they went to Glasgow where a

1:01:32

Russian cruise ship was being built. And

1:01:35

the engineer, Mikhail Kostenko,

1:01:37

was a social revolutionary who met

1:01:40

with Azov, and together they conceived

1:01:42

up the plan to assassinate Nicholas

1:01:44

II. The

1:01:46

plan was going to be that on

1:01:48

the boat they would kill the Tsar while he was inspecting the ship.

1:01:52

So Azov was an Asian

1:01:55

provocateur who had concocted

1:01:57

this whole plan to entrap all of

1:01:59

this. these socialist revolutionaries and

1:02:03

then out them when they wanted to

1:02:05

kill Czar Nicholas II. Of course

1:02:09

this plan failed and it was

1:02:12

all the information was given over to the O'Krana

1:02:15

and Azef

1:02:20

who acknowledged that he had

1:02:22

been an agent was almost caught he

1:02:24

was found guilty but turns

1:02:27

out it

1:02:29

was decided to lure him to a villa

1:02:31

and stage his accidental death. So

1:02:34

they staged his death and

1:02:36

I think he ran away to Germany again

1:02:39

with Hedy. So

1:02:43

quite an adventurous life

1:02:46

that this man lived. What a character.

1:02:48

So all these stories are crazy. Every one of these

1:02:51

would make a wild movie

1:02:55

but we certainly can't have any heroes

1:03:01

of Russia. They have to all be bad

1:03:03

guys. Isn't

1:03:05

it wild that none of these people pop up?

1:03:09

So these are all these like famous 1800s,

1:03:12

1900s, all these famous spy stories and nothing

1:03:14

pops up for these

1:03:18

people. Interesting. Of

1:03:27

course it's just Hedy Lamarr. No not

1:03:29

Hedy Lamarr. Although

1:03:31

I mean

1:03:33

pretty much all of these old entertainers

1:03:36

you know what I mean? They're

1:03:38

almost all spies. I would

1:03:41

I mean I don't even know if Hedy Lamarr was a

1:03:43

spy but I won't be surprised. Maybe she was. I can't

1:03:45

remember. Let's see if she

1:03:47

was. Was she a spy? Yes she

1:03:51

was. Looks like. Hedy

1:04:02

Lamarr's military invention? What? Her

1:04:07

technological contributions were squandered? What?

1:04:11

This sounds crazy.

1:04:16

She was pigeonholed as a one-dimensional

1:04:18

Hollywood object. Her

1:04:23

never used contribution to military technology.

1:04:26

I didn't know she was born to a

1:04:29

Jewish family. She escaped

1:04:31

the tiny mustache men to,

1:04:34

I guess, come to LA. She

1:04:38

also developed a system to protect allies.

1:04:40

What? This is crazy.

1:04:43

Spread spectrum technology would become the forerunner of

1:04:45

what was used in today's Wi-Fi. Come

1:04:49

on now. Is this for real? What?

1:04:54

This is crazy. But

1:04:58

was she a spy? Hedy

1:05:05

Lamarr and composer George Antheal

1:05:07

developed radio guidance systems. Okay,

1:05:11

I mean, I could,

1:05:14

uh, uh,

1:05:17

this is crazy. I

1:05:19

mean, I studied this stuff all the time. I didn't even know

1:05:21

this. So secret

1:05:28

communication system that they developed. Well, that's

1:05:30

crazy. Who knew that? Anyway,

1:05:36

all right. Moving

1:05:42

on. The

1:05:45

KGB does not always expect immediate results in

1:05:47

this blackmail efforts. It maintains files during the,

1:05:49

during the Suburban, during the cold war. It

1:05:52

maintained files that to Dierzinski square

1:05:54

that were kept for 50 years.

1:05:58

A giant KGB. files

1:06:00

kept for 50 years to

1:06:03

make sure that the

1:06:06

information could be

1:06:08

stored that might be useful at a future date.

1:06:10

In fact, the KGB learned of

1:06:12

many individuals in the West who

1:06:15

had Skittles proclivities. And

1:06:18

one of the famous cases was, I

1:06:21

got a funny story here from this, a

1:06:24

British... No,

1:06:34

a young Italian high

1:06:36

ranking government official, KGB got dirt on

1:06:38

him. Anyway,

1:06:42

that one's kind of stupid, but this is

1:06:44

crazy. So President

1:06:47

Sukarno of Indonesia in the

1:06:49

1960s was famous for

1:06:51

his amorous appetite and for visiting ladies

1:06:53

of the evening. The KGB

1:06:55

hatched a plot by which they

1:06:57

would entrap him at some of

1:07:00

their facilities

1:07:02

when he came to visit and

1:07:04

they would film these escapades,

1:07:08

which happened quite a bit. They

1:07:11

then brought in President Sukarno and

1:07:14

said, guess what?

1:07:16

We've got you on tape with all of these

1:07:18

ladies. You will now work for us. Sukarno

1:07:21

interestingly flipped the tables on

1:07:23

them and said, do

1:07:25

you have copies of all these tapes? I

1:07:27

would actually like to show them in my

1:07:30

country because my fellow countrymen will be impressed

1:07:32

and will cheer me on. And

1:07:35

the KGB were sort of left with

1:07:38

a mic drop and they didn't know what to do.

1:07:40

So this actually failed. Still

1:07:53

sulking over this entrapment case. There was

1:07:55

another funny incident where the

1:07:57

KGB thought that they had gotten wind of an

1:08:00

incident at the 1965 inauguration

1:08:02

of LBJ where a fun-loving

1:08:05

British diplomat asked a fellow

1:08:08

Soviet minister, Alexander Zincuk,

1:08:11

if he could talk to him privately. They

1:08:14

stepped away to the signing and the

1:08:16

British diplomat said, you know, that man

1:08:19

over there is not actually Lyndon Baines Johnson.

1:08:22

LBJ was assassinated during the campaign, however,

1:08:24

the United States has kept a secret

1:08:26

and they've elected a double agent. Zincuk

1:08:29

could hardly wait to excuse himself, rushing

1:08:32

to the nearest telephone to call his handlers. Although

1:08:36

his superiors ridiculed the idea,

1:08:38

the KGB covertly took this

1:08:40

information very secret, very seriously

1:08:42

and started making inquiries into

1:08:44

the possible accident which had

1:08:47

gotten rid of LBJ. However

1:08:51

it turns out that this was all disinformation and

1:08:54

was a distraction. Moving

1:09:03

on. The

1:09:11

next example was a place

1:09:13

called Camp David. Now

1:09:15

this is not the Camp David Accords, I don't think

1:09:17

this is very different. This

1:09:28

is very reminiscent of what you would think

1:09:30

about in the Justine

1:09:33

McEffrey situation or

1:09:36

Craig Spence in the Franklin cover-up. This

1:09:38

is the idea of massage parlors in

1:09:40

these kinds of places that

1:09:42

are actually full of two-way mirrors and devices.

1:09:45

So this was becoming more popular

1:09:47

in the 1950s. In

1:09:56

1955 the US under Army's Sergeant

1:10:00

Glenn Rohrer was assigned a

1:10:02

heavily guarded compound that was used

1:10:04

to train European and American agents

1:10:07

in operations behind the Iron Curtain. Located

1:10:10

at a 12-acre site in Oberuetso,

1:10:13

West Germany, 10 miles from Frankfurt, it

1:10:15

was known as Camp David. The

1:10:18

purpose of this facility was to train

1:10:20

black and gray agents. Full-time spies were

1:10:22

known as blacks and operated in the

1:10:24

Soviet-controlled countries under false identities. Gray

1:10:27

were businessmen, tourists, and journalists who

1:10:29

agreed to take on espionage assignments

1:10:32

for patriotism or for money. All

1:10:34

these agents were debriefed and sent to

1:10:37

various missions under lie detector tests, blah blah blah.

1:10:42

President at virtually every briefing session,

1:10:45

Glenn Rohrer knew the names of every

1:10:48

agent and the names and identities of

1:10:50

hundreds of CIA agents, both black and

1:10:52

gray. He was also well

1:10:54

aware of their operating procedures, the

1:10:56

location of their missions, their contacts, and their successes. Rohrer

1:10:59

had been carefully screened to bed by the

1:11:01

CIA before being posted to run Camp David.

1:11:04

Strangent regulations were there. However,

1:11:08

being stationed there alone,

1:11:11

Rohrer felt a strong

1:11:13

need eventually to find some female

1:11:15

companionship. In 1960, he decided to

1:11:18

visit a luxurious Frankfurt

1:11:21

massage parlor operated

1:11:23

by Lydia Kuzazov.

1:11:26

Lydia was the headmistress of the KGB's

1:11:29

SEX school, and she had

1:11:31

been sent into West Germany by the KGB to

1:11:33

set up an espionage ring. She

1:11:35

had recruited the most beautiful girls

1:11:38

that she could find, and she

1:11:40

paid them extremely well for their

1:11:42

roles as top-flight ladies

1:11:45

of the union. The

1:11:48

patrons were first made comfortable in their pleasant,

1:11:50

respectable rooms, and it turns out

1:11:52

the massages which led to, uh, Jorak

1:11:55

Häbening, Jorak Häbening, turns

1:11:58

out there were microphones, tape recorders, two-way

1:12:00

mirrors everywhere. So, Jeff

1:12:02

Stein, McGuprey. This

1:12:06

led to a gigantic score

1:12:09

because Lydia initially demanded from

1:12:11

Rohrer blackmail information on

1:12:13

all the agents in East Germany.

1:12:16

By 1965 Rohrer had supplied the

1:12:18

KGB with the names and addresses

1:12:20

of, by this time, dozens

1:12:22

of CIA agents and from 1955 to

1:12:24

65 more than a hundred

1:12:27

agents, CIA

1:12:29

agents were arrested due to

1:12:31

this one dude's compromise.

1:12:35

All because he wanted to

1:12:37

get a hot ending.

1:12:39

You all right, hot ending? So

1:12:43

all it takes is one hot ending dude and

1:12:46

you're you're cooked. Now

1:12:49

did you guys know that there's

1:12:52

old training

1:12:54

videos? This is

1:12:56

what amazes me is like they

1:12:59

put up the training videos for

1:13:03

American soldiers on

1:13:09

YouTube. Let me think of what that was titled. US,

1:13:13

you should watch these if you never seen the pretty funny. US

1:13:16

military soldier training.

1:13:28

It's something like, I don't know if it has, maybe

1:13:35

something like this. Let's try this. But

1:13:38

these training videos for the soldiers are pretty funny. If

1:13:40

we can find one. No,

1:13:44

that's not it. Oh

1:13:48

wait, here we go. This is it. espionage

1:13:51

target. You! I

1:13:55

think this is it. Let's

1:13:57

see. This

1:14:06

man's name is Nick

1:14:14

McCratos. Destination? Munich. Occupation?

1:14:17

Freelance journalist? Door-to-door salesman? Jack of

1:14:20

all trades. With no particular skill in any. McCratos

1:14:22

made a contact that promises to open for him

1:14:25

a whole new career. This

1:14:58

is like the most archetypal

1:15:01

version of this, right?

1:15:09

I re- Japanese dancer, you like

1:15:11

me, I like you. Right?

1:15:16

Uh, this is great. This is the actual

1:15:18

training film. I forgot the shoe. I

1:15:21

remember watching this like five years ago and I

1:15:23

was like, that's actually pretty funny. We should watch

1:15:25

that on a stream sometime. I forgot about it.

1:15:28

But yeah, this is literally the stories that

1:15:30

she's describing, right? So like they're recruiting like

1:15:33

all the, all the babes.

1:15:35

And then these, like, how

1:15:37

did this, did this guy not watch this video? This is

1:15:39

like right around the same time. This

1:15:41

is 1960s. Like this video

1:15:43

is 64. Did they not

1:15:46

send this to Sergeant Rohrer? All

1:15:50

because of this dude was just like lonely one night

1:15:52

or maybe, maybe he was stationed there for more than

1:15:54

one night. But why would you even, I mean, did

1:15:56

this dude have no game? Like

1:15:59

you couldn't just. Just go find a date? I mean...

1:16:03

Maybe he was an ugly dude. This

1:16:30

is Yannums. And

1:16:32

I hope he's made a country. His

1:16:36

destination? An American Air Base

1:16:38

overseas. His

1:16:41

Jade cufflinks aren't just

1:16:43

accidental attire. But

1:17:00

it's like Germans

1:17:02

and Japanese, this would be like... Maybe

1:17:04

they're using Axis time as an example.

1:17:06

I can't remember. I'm

1:17:17

not sure what that's like. Generically

1:17:19

Asian music. Dun dun dun dun dun

1:17:22

dun dun dun dun dun dun. And

1:17:24

you've got a guy with Jade cufflinks. Is

1:17:27

that how we identify spies? The Soviets wear Jade

1:17:30

cufflinks? You

1:17:37

suppose she... Japanese or Chinese?

1:17:39

Now I'm confused. Her

1:17:41

name was Japanese, right? Wasn't it... Tomamoto

1:17:44

or something? So

1:17:47

she can't be a Soviet. I

1:17:49

guess she can. You

1:18:01

Different people in different parts of the world,

1:18:03

but all with a common mission. For

1:18:05

each is a hostile agent of

1:18:07

the worldwide Sino-Soviet Intelligence Network. Identified

1:18:14

by conflict? Pardon,

1:18:21

sir. Could

1:18:23

it be you for a niche? Their

1:18:25

job? To exploit

1:18:28

if and when the opportunity arises. You,

1:18:32

the serviceman and woman. In

1:18:35

order to gain access to information that can

1:18:37

be of value to an enemy. I

1:18:43

just can't understand how these sergeants

1:18:45

wouldn't think or conceive

1:18:47

of the house of ill

1:18:49

repute being the place by which is what

1:18:51

happened. You'd be a lot less

1:18:53

likely to be entrapped in this by

1:18:56

meeting a woman at a bar than

1:18:58

you would going to the damn massage

1:19:00

parlor. That's

1:19:02

the goofy part. Anyway, this is a funny thing. We're not going to

1:19:04

watch all this. But this

1:19:07

guy instructing you on how to avoid

1:19:10

being entrapped is pretty funny. I'll

1:19:12

just play a little bit better. These

1:19:32

cases have been taken from the files of

1:19:35

the Army Intelligence Corps, the Office

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of local espionage laws Bringing

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to an end his career as an intelligence

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agent A

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relative behind the iron curtain Indebtedness,

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loneliness, the desire for an easy

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buck All vulnerable

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areas right for exploitation What

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about the happy

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ending case? I thought we would

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get a little more action out

1:23:58

of Yamamoto or whatever whatever her name was at

1:24:00

the beginning. Where

1:24:03

did that what happened to that story? That was... Is

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that this soldier

1:24:10

man here? He's waiting to meet her at the restaurant, I

1:24:12

think, how it goes? In the

1:24:14

thousand strikes. Where did that information go, sir? It's

1:24:17

too much. Where

1:24:26

is he? The bedroom.

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Anyway, you

1:24:31

guys can watch this on your own. We'll

1:24:35

get back to our story. Why

1:24:38

did 100 people leave after that? That was like the best

1:24:40

part was all this stuff. I don't get

1:24:43

it. People's attention spans are

1:24:45

just destroyed. So

1:24:48

a lot of people lost out

1:24:50

there. There was a similar situation with

1:24:54

Sir Hanson. Or

1:24:58

Harrison, excuse me. Sir Harrison, British

1:25:01

case where a similar thing had happened to an older

1:25:03

man. He

1:25:05

fell for a young girl, Sir

1:25:08

Jeffrey Hanson, British ambassador

1:25:10

to Moscow. He was entrapped by an

1:25:12

attractive young Russian girl named

1:25:15

Galia. She was a

1:25:17

KGB swallow. He saw her emerging

1:25:20

from a bathtub with no clothes and

1:25:22

immediately was infatuated. They

1:25:26

began a relationship

1:25:30

and he soon found out that her bedroom

1:25:33

had been bugged with hidden cameras

1:25:36

and the KGB had succeeded in

1:25:38

entrapping a high level British

1:25:42

ambassador. But

1:25:46

the most serious case was the

1:25:48

KGB entrapment of Rear

1:25:50

Admiral Herman Luytka. He's

1:25:53

a British Rear Admiral assigned

1:25:55

to NATO in the 1960s and he

1:25:57

had clearance for everything top secret. NATO's

1:26:00

confidential secret and cosmic

1:26:03

top secret, reading whatever cosmic top

1:26:05

secret is in NATO. Was

1:26:09

a married man with five children and

1:26:12

had a very important position at NATO at the time. He

1:26:15

was also a good looking and charismatic man and

1:26:17

that made him attractive to many women. During

1:26:20

one of his work stays

1:26:22

in Paris in 1966, he

1:26:25

was being watched very closely by Soviet

1:26:27

agents who learned that he was frequenting

1:26:29

a nightclub and he was

1:26:31

called the Left Bank. One particular

1:26:33

evening, the KGB sent a sensuous

1:26:35

23 year old French girl in

1:26:37

named Yvonne. She

1:26:41

successfully talked him up, chatted him up,

1:26:43

trapped him. And

1:26:47

they had an evening of wild

1:26:50

love making with many

1:26:52

erotic positions. This

1:26:54

was all filmed, all photographed.

1:26:59

And the Rear Admiral was then forced

1:27:01

into handing over pretty much everything classified

1:27:03

that he could get his hands on

1:27:06

for the KGB. This did

1:27:08

a tremendous amount of damage to NATO during

1:27:10

this time. Loitje

1:27:14

was shown all of this and

1:27:16

continued to cooperate. The

1:27:20

KGB was also aware that Rear Admiral

1:27:23

Loitje Luitka

1:27:25

supervised the storage of billions

1:27:27

of dollars worth of military

1:27:29

equipment, including F-104 Lockheed

1:27:32

starfighters, surface to air

1:27:35

missiles, air to air

1:27:37

missiles, et cetera. Pretty

1:27:39

much all the ammunition of NATO forces.

1:27:42

He was, however, in total demand,

1:27:46

under total demand for the

1:27:48

KGB as a enslaved and

1:27:51

bonded to the KGB. This is his words.

1:27:56

In 1967, after NATO's command structure, including

1:27:58

shape, that is as a... the frame

1:28:00

headquarters of Allied Powers of Europe was transferred from France

1:28:02

to Belgium, they increased their ransom to Ant. The

1:28:05

KGB ordered Loika to subvert members of its

1:28:07

staff by using whatever methods were at

1:28:10

hand, including prawn. That's

1:28:19

because Loika would occasionally

1:28:21

peruse his hobby of photographing

1:28:24

underage people. So he was

1:28:27

making his own prawn and

1:28:32

operational changes took place in NATO 1967 and

1:28:34

Loika was in control of

1:28:37

more weapons and research. So this was

1:28:39

even worse for this. And

1:28:41

then they asked him to give him

1:28:43

the parts for the Hawk missile system.

1:28:48

Loika obtained the parts and took them

1:28:50

to his usual KGB rendezvous points, but

1:28:53

this was eventually discovered by NATO

1:28:56

security. Once

1:28:58

he had delivered all this vital material, the

1:29:00

KGB arranged for the reasonable acts to be

1:29:02

discovered by his own

1:29:04

intel. So the KGB was setting him up to be

1:29:06

discovered by his own people. An

1:29:09

undercover agent at NATO photographed some

1:29:12

old documents still classified as top

1:29:14

secret using a Minox. That's

1:29:17

that little camera that you saw that

1:29:19

was given as a gift, as

1:29:21

you guys, everybody thought that was Jamie's pregnancy

1:29:24

test, which it said very

1:29:26

clearly underneath it that it's a KGB Minox

1:29:28

camera. To

1:29:32

establish the admiral's connection to all these pictures, the agent

1:29:34

went to the parking lot, took several photographs of Loika's

1:29:36

car. The film was turned over to

1:29:38

KGB camera expert who broke into Loika's apartment and

1:29:40

replaced the film in his camera with the forgery.

1:29:43

Underwear of the switch, Loika snapped several pictures of

1:29:45

his family and his nude

1:29:47

persons. And

1:29:51

the film was taken to a development studio. This

1:29:55

was all a frame up and eventually he was offed. So

1:30:01

the murder, it's

1:30:07

unclear who killed Loitka but it could

1:30:10

easily be either the KGB or the CIA

1:30:14

and that would be for

1:30:16

multiple reasons both sides had a lot

1:30:18

of motivations but his

1:30:22

information also I think led to other

1:30:25

NATO deaths. People,

1:30:29

multiple people around Loitka ended up

1:30:31

offed or suicided

1:30:34

or something else. Only

1:30:38

once in the history of the FBI, now this was in the

1:30:40

1990 and so I'm wondering why they

1:30:45

said once in the history

1:30:47

of the FBI because I mean

1:30:49

wasn't that the whole goofy movie, TV movie

1:30:52

with the

1:30:56

Robert Hanson story. So

1:31:00

maybe this came

1:31:02

out after... Yeah

1:31:13

they made this movie with what's his name?

1:31:16

Frickin' John C. Lilly. If

1:31:19

you guys watch this everybody should

1:31:21

watch this if you haven't seen

1:31:24

it because it's a TV movie but it's

1:31:26

pretty good from 2002 and it's got

1:31:28

what's her face from weeds in it as

1:31:30

his wife Mary

1:31:33

Louise Parker and William Hurt but

1:31:39

I don't know why this this guy's saying only

1:31:41

once because this must have

1:31:43

happened after so this would be twice now. So

1:31:46

Robert Hanson pleaded guilty of espionage. Okay

1:31:48

so this is twice. So before

1:31:51

Robert Hanson in 19... or in 2002... yeah. The

1:32:00

only person who had

1:32:03

been busted in the FBI doing this

1:32:05

was a guy named Richard Miller. So,

1:32:11

and I think both guys were entrapped.

1:32:22

I was trying to find this, yeah. A

1:32:26

lot of these people, you think they're entrapped

1:32:29

by babes, they're not all entrapped by babes.

1:32:31

Some of these people aren't trapped by not

1:32:34

babes. They're like sending

1:32:37

frickin' hags. And I'm thinking, it must

1:32:40

be pretty easy to entrap people because a

1:32:43

lot of these people, like, I mean, okay,

1:32:45

I get it, you're entrapped by a bombshell

1:32:48

ten, right? Okay, yeah, I can

1:32:50

understand that you caved. But

1:32:52

I mean, a lot of these chicks that entrap

1:32:54

people are not hot. That's the other surprising thing.

1:32:56

Many of them are, many of them are not.

1:32:59

So let me show you, you can't really

1:33:01

find pictures of her. There's only one blurry picture,

1:33:03

but she does not look attractive. Svetlana.

1:33:10

You gotta see this Soviet chick here.

1:33:12

She's not good looking. Ogoro... Ogoro...

1:33:19

Dinkova. And

1:33:22

maybe the KGB was like short on funds.

1:33:25

They were like, we don't really have the

1:33:28

funds right now for babes. So let's just send him

1:33:30

a kind of

1:33:32

a mid chick. Let's see, is this her? I

1:33:38

mean... I

1:33:40

mean, she's not ugly, but like... Is

1:33:43

that her? I

1:33:47

can't tell if that's her or not. What

1:33:50

the heck is all this crap? I

1:33:52

don't know, maybe that's her. This is somebody's blog. If

1:33:55

that's her, right, it's like... This chick's not

1:33:57

that good looking. How

1:34:00

did you fall for her? Anyway

1:34:15

it's hard to find any of these pictures of

1:34:18

them. Basically Google doesn't work but let

1:34:21

me show you if you can see. Looks like a dang cigarette

1:34:24

grandma. You know what I mean? Like this

1:34:26

is her right here. You know

1:34:31

what I mean? She looks like she's gonna be taking your

1:34:33

order at the diner and trying to get you to buy

1:34:35

some tater tots. You need

1:34:38

some more coffee. You want me to top that

1:34:40

off? You know that's what that's what

1:34:42

that's the vibe I'm getting. I'm like so

1:34:44

much anyway that's all it took to entrap

1:34:47

Richard Miller. So he

1:34:50

was the first of the FBI characters

1:34:53

to be entrapped Richard Miller.

1:34:57

And then we got the Robert

1:35:01

Hanson case

1:35:03

in 2002.

1:35:09

By the way I won't say who but I

1:35:11

talked to somebody who said that they were involved

1:35:13

in that case which is interesting. And

1:35:20

did you know they made that isn't that other

1:35:22

movie about this? Breach?

1:35:26

Remember that movie Breach? Yeah okay so Ryan

1:35:28

Felipe and that ugly ass dude

1:35:32

he was involved in this. Did

1:35:36

you guys Laura Lenny remember this? It's

1:35:39

a decent movie it's a little slow so there's two

1:35:41

versions of it. There's the TV movie

1:35:43

with William Hurt called

1:35:45

the Robert Hanson story and

1:35:48

then there's the 2007 Ryan Felipe

1:35:58

Laura Lenny movie. I forget the the

1:36:00

back the guy that's playing. Chris

1:36:05

Cooper I can never think of that guy's name. Did

1:36:07

you guys watch Breach? So this is about

1:36:10

the Hanson story and

1:36:12

what's interesting about the Hanson story is very

1:36:15

similar to if you watch the recent documentary

1:36:18

that featured John Le Carre and

1:36:23

it was called Pigeon.

1:36:27

I recommend this too if you haven't seen it. Pigeon

1:36:30

tunnel. The

1:36:33

pigeon tunnel yeah that's it. This

1:36:36

is a pretty good documentary. It's an Apple documentary

1:36:39

I think. And

1:36:42

this revolves around a career of John

1:36:44

Le Carre of course the famous espionage

1:36:46

writer. We just covered as you guys

1:36:48

know his famous massage

1:36:50

story Little Drummer Girl. We covered that

1:36:53

a few weeks ago. This

1:36:55

is a documentary where they interviewed

1:36:58

Le Carre who never gives interviews.

1:37:01

So basically he like super

1:37:03

private never really gave any interviews.

1:37:06

The interview is told in

1:37:08

this very weird trippy style. I

1:37:10

mean it was well produced. Some

1:37:14

of the interview I thought was a little weird but

1:37:17

what I thought was fascinating was the

1:37:19

first story that he told about the

1:37:21

entrapment that he was involved in had

1:37:25

to do with Soviets at

1:37:27

one of the British universities. I

1:37:30

don't know Ate Eaton or Cambridge or somewhere.

1:37:33

It's similar to

1:37:37

the Cambridge spy ring. It wasn't

1:37:40

Filvy but it was the people in those circles.

1:37:42

Another one of these British

1:37:45

intelligence operatives that's Skittles. Okay

1:37:48

so it's just like

1:37:51

people can't figure out that like all

1:37:53

governments are toppling. Nations

1:37:55

are falling. Kingdoms are falling. Wars

1:37:59

are being lost. not

1:38:01

even so much because of the hetero

1:38:03

stuff it's because of all the Skittles

1:38:05

everywhere so governments get

1:38:07

filled with Skittles people they're

1:38:10

easily compromised and controlled and then

1:38:12

everything just collapses for

1:38:16

example now I look

1:38:19

are he doesn't explain a lot of details

1:38:21

in regard to his first operation but one

1:38:23

of his first operations was a fellow young

1:38:26

man at I think

1:38:28

Cambridge I don't remember who was anyway one

1:38:31

of these elite British schools and it sounds

1:38:33

like this person

1:38:35

thought that Lekare was

1:38:38

maybe going to be his boyfriend and

1:38:40

that didn't happen and this

1:38:43

person was turned in and

1:38:47

it's all it's the same story with all of these Soviet

1:38:50

defecting British intelligence people

1:38:53

now why are all of these British

1:38:56

intelligence people Skittles first of all could

1:38:59

they not root out Skittles people I

1:39:01

just can't I don't

1:39:03

understand why there would

1:39:05

be so many this would be such a recurring

1:39:07

problem for the British intelligence

1:39:10

like I mean can you not

1:39:12

figure out who's straight I don't I don't get it so

1:39:14

but I don't know how

1:39:16

are the Soviets so good at

1:39:19

finding the the people

1:39:21

light in their loafers another

1:39:25

one of these British individuals

1:39:28

that got entrapped John Vasel

1:39:33

and he basically

1:39:35

the Soviets just turned on their gator and

1:39:38

they're like we got them look all of

1:39:40

these people are on their own

1:39:42

eyes our side now because we turned our

1:39:44

gate now interestingly in the case of Hanson

1:39:47

Hanson was a tribe cat he

1:39:50

wasn't even he wasn't

1:39:54

even Skittles if

1:39:56

I recall he liked to watch

1:40:00

people with his wife. I

1:40:02

think that's what it was. So

1:40:05

here's a trad cat who likes

1:40:07

to be C-U-C-K-E-D. Isn't

1:40:10

that right, you guys remember? You guys have

1:40:12

seen Breach, right? Isn't this what's going on?

1:40:16

So Breach was another case of entrapment.

1:40:18

It just turned out that his dumb

1:40:21

proclivity was to watch people

1:40:25

enjoying his wife. That's

1:40:29

what happens in the plot, and I think that's

1:40:31

true, if you guys remember. But

1:40:36

they don't like to talk about all the details because I guess

1:40:38

it's kind of embarrassing. It's

1:40:43

like why was he entrapped? Well they found out that he

1:40:45

was, now

1:40:47

this says Lutheran. Oh he was born

1:40:49

Lutheran, let's see. No he converted the

1:40:51

trad cat. His wife, yes

1:40:55

his wife turned him trad cat. Okay

1:41:11

well I guess Wikipedia's not gonna tell us anyway.

1:41:13

In the movie at least, I don't know what the

1:41:16

real story is but I wouldn't be surprised. Does

1:41:19

anybody remember this movie? Nobody knows. So

1:41:24

I mean might as well be Skittles. He's watching people

1:41:26

bang his wife. All right moving

1:41:28

on. Hall

1:41:32

of Pleasurable Delights. Let's go back

1:41:34

to, we're gonna get straight up

1:41:36

Nippon, right? Hall

1:41:41

of, Hall

1:41:43

of Fame, no, Hall of Pleasurable Delights. You

1:41:46

know what this might actually pull up something else. Maybe I

1:41:48

shouldn't search this. We're

1:41:51

gonna get some frickin' nasty

1:41:53

weird anime stuff

1:41:55

or something. Yo

1:41:58

saguaro. The

1:42:01

red light district is that it? Hmm

1:42:07

See you can't even search any of this stuff like

1:42:09

the actual history No, this comes up by

1:42:11

the way, the guys will hit like and

1:42:13

share welcome to tonight's interesting.

1:42:15

Yes I forgot Robert Henson was

1:42:18

Opus Day exactly Now

1:42:20

does anybody remember the actual case though? What wasn't he?

1:42:24

Like he was like sending videos of his wife

1:42:26

sleeping with people or something. It was just like

1:42:30

Frickin weirdos. I Mean

1:42:34

we all have our vices, but I mean some

1:42:37

of these vices are just frickin it.

1:42:39

Oh, just insane Okay,

1:42:41

so nothing comes up with this but this was

1:42:43

the Hall of Pleasurable Delights and

1:42:46

as we said, this was the invention of a

1:42:50

Prussian intelligence handler by the

1:42:52

name of steber and He

1:42:55

worked for the Prussian government and set up

1:42:57

this vast kind of greenhouse

1:43:00

as he called it and

1:43:02

then Japan

1:43:04

got wind of this and they said we want you

1:43:06

to come over here and set

1:43:09

up your whole technique your whole system and We'll

1:43:12

call it the Hall of Pleasurable Delights and

1:43:15

it basically be a giant I guess a palace

1:43:17

and it doesn't say how big it was but It

1:43:21

doesn't sound small if it's the Hall of Pleasurable Delights and

1:43:24

it It Caterred

1:43:27

to any whim so

1:43:30

anything And

1:43:32

it does seem that in

1:43:34

Japan they they don't go for anything And

1:43:38

I remember one time before I met Jamie. I

1:43:40

didn't I've never been to Japan This is but

1:43:42

there was this techno DJ girl that I was

1:43:44

talking to And

1:43:47

I don't know this is true, but it doesn't sound

1:43:49

far-fetched and I apologize this is

1:43:51

gross But this gives you an idea of how gross things

1:43:53

can get but she said that when

1:43:55

she went to play it a

1:43:58

rave in Japan that

1:44:02

The very wealthy Japanese

1:44:04

businessmen They

1:44:07

have this is so crazy Maybe

1:44:11

I shouldn't even say this. How

1:44:13

can we say this in code? Basically

1:44:17

they will Pay the

1:44:19

ladies of the evening. It's like

1:44:21

the million multi-millionaire business class to

1:44:24

fast for a long time The

1:44:28

ladies Systems

1:44:30

clear out They

1:44:32

eat strawberries and that's like all they're

1:44:34

allowed to eat, right? and then

1:44:37

the Japanese businessmen

1:44:41

Eat the strawberries after they have Processed

1:44:49

And it's just so freaking weird and gross

1:44:51

that I don't think that technochick was lying

1:44:53

that just sounds like I'm

1:44:55

like, what what is wrong with these Japanese

1:44:57

people? Like what are why are you what

1:45:00

that's just crazy, dude Come on. Does

1:45:02

nobody just want to have a man and a

1:45:04

woman like is that y'all don't

1:45:07

want that I mean aren't isn't your

1:45:09

population declining? like maybe

1:45:11

you guys should Like throw

1:45:13

out all the degeneracy and maybe just go back

1:45:15

to like man and woman like you remember that

1:45:17

Do you make guys remember that thing? Anyway,

1:45:24

so pleased with the success of

1:45:26

the hull of pleasurable delights the

1:45:29

Japanese government established These training schools

1:45:31

throughout their attempted Japanese Empire of

1:45:33

Russia China, Manchuria under

1:45:36

the guise of teaching jiu-jitsu interesting

1:45:42

They however were actually

1:45:44

training and engaging

1:45:46

in all kinds of Sxb

1:45:49

and ash By

1:45:52

1878 dozens of these

1:45:54

patriotic societies have been set up

1:45:57

by Japanese nationals in their

1:45:59

host countries these secret groups

1:46:01

were given secret names so they

1:46:04

actually set up secret SCX societies

1:46:08

so now we're getting into frickin R

1:46:11

Kelly territory because R Kelly set up

1:46:13

secrets SCX society if you didn't know

1:46:15

that as an SCX cult it's

1:46:20

the remix to ignition hot and

1:46:22

fresh out the kitchen mama rolling

1:46:24

them them sushi rolls

1:46:27

got every man in here wishin sippin

1:46:30

on coke and sake I'm like there's

1:46:35

all kinds of jokes to be made there we'll

1:46:37

stop there though that's R

1:46:40

Kelly some

1:46:42

of these names of these secret SCX

1:46:44

societies were the black ocean the black

1:46:46

dragon the East Asia one

1:46:49

culture the reawakening of Asia the white

1:46:51

wolf and the Turan these

1:46:55

were all covers and secret

1:46:57

societies for SCX cults

1:46:59

which were covers for Japanese

1:47:02

espionage and

1:47:07

this information was so successful

1:47:09

as we said that

1:47:12

the Russian men who

1:47:15

frequented the Japanese parlors

1:47:19

divulge too much information and this led

1:47:21

to Russia losing the

1:47:25

Russo Japanese war of 1904 1905 and

1:47:34

now I'll give his brief summary of this he

1:47:36

says although we

1:47:38

don't have precise records to

1:47:40

the effectiveness of the Japanese sex

1:47:42

espionage by the

1:47:44

by 1904

1:47:48

1905 the war had entered into disastrously for

1:47:50

the Russians because their Baltic Fleet was utterly

1:47:52

destroyed in the straits of to

1:47:54

Shima this event could only

1:47:56

have occurred if the Japanese had obtained

1:47:58

advanced information through these

1:48:02

networks. Moving

1:48:06

on, the master

1:48:08

of Japanese sexpionage and espionage

1:48:11

is a man named Kenji Doihara.

1:48:16

If William Steber was the master planner

1:48:18

of all modern sexpionage, sort

1:48:21

of the Robert Maxwell, Jeff

1:48:23

Stein McGaffrey of his day, Japan's

1:48:27

next figure here

1:48:29

was Kenji Doihara. He

1:48:32

was the espionage master of

1:48:34

all international perversion and

1:48:37

pandorism. It is ironic that

1:48:39

Doihara fed

1:48:42

his ambition through his view of the

1:48:44

necessity of degrading women. He

1:48:46

owed his start in Japanese espionage to a

1:48:48

young and beautiful, innocent girl who was his

1:48:51

own sister, whom

1:48:53

he, shall we say, corralled into this type of work. He

1:49:03

had no concern for his sister's reputation or

1:49:05

for her virtue. And

1:49:08

in fact, he utilized photographs that he had

1:49:10

taken of her and

1:49:12

sent them to Japan's imperial princes.

1:49:15

The princes were impressed with this babe

1:49:19

and they sent immediately to

1:49:22

make her a concubine. Doihara,

1:49:26

however, was completely without any moral

1:49:28

scruples and was utilizing

1:49:30

her as his

1:49:33

own spy. That's pretty ballsy too, by the

1:49:35

way, to use your sister to spy

1:49:38

on the Japanese prince. I

1:49:42

mean, this dude had

1:49:44

no scruples. That dude just didn't care. So

1:49:50

he was working together, however,

1:49:57

with a general, General Honjo.

1:50:00

between them they had those scruples and

1:50:02

they put together a subversive movement called Anfu.

1:50:08

Eventually they I guess tried

1:50:11

to overthrow the capital

1:50:15

city. Oh excuse

1:50:23

me not uh excuse

1:50:26

me I have this backwards. Okay so

1:50:28

Doi-Hira's idea was use his

1:50:30

sister not the Japanese

1:50:34

Imperial but

1:50:37

eventually he was using

1:50:39

his sex networks

1:50:41

to destroy China. Doi-Hira

1:50:46

immediately set about developing a plan to demoralize China.

1:50:48

Now here's the key point that I wanted to

1:50:50

get to with this. This

1:50:52

is an early case of

1:50:56

weaponized vice and

1:50:58

degeneracy used on a mass scale by

1:51:01

Kinji Doi-Kara of

1:51:03

Japan to destroy China

1:51:07

and it wasn't just a

1:51:10

network of houses of ill reputes it

1:51:13

was also opium so he starts tying

1:51:15

in drugs and

1:51:17

SEX to

1:51:19

culturally attack China. Culture

1:51:23

war. Degeneracy

1:51:25

promoted to weaken China. Doi-Hira's

1:51:29

first set was to convert the

1:51:31

traditional Chinese men's clubs into

1:51:34

saloons, gambling

1:51:36

houses, brothels and opium

1:51:38

dens. In

1:51:40

small towns and villages he established many booths

1:51:43

at local fairs that offered medicine however this

1:51:45

medicine was not a cure for tuberculosis but

1:51:47

was in fact opium. This

1:51:50

is like exactly the same thing that goes on in

1:51:53

America via fentanyl. Doi-Hira

1:51:58

then spawned an army of that

1:52:01

numbered tens of thousands who were then

1:52:03

his slaves and informers because they were

1:52:05

addicts they were brought on him

1:52:08

for opium they would then inform and

1:52:10

spy for him as

1:52:12

addicts. He

1:52:16

even created his

1:52:18

own special brand of cigarette that

1:52:20

was laced with opium to

1:52:23

help get more and more addicts this

1:52:25

is just crazy this dude was like this

1:52:27

dude was off the hook. In

1:52:33

fact he

1:52:36

was so successful at softening this country's

1:52:38

defenses through all this internal subversion that

1:52:41

he destroyed most of the Chinese people's will

1:52:43

to resist. In fact

1:52:45

he continued to open numerous brothels in key

1:52:47

cities and use white Russian addicts as the

1:52:49

prostitutes in these brothels. This is crazy. In

1:52:57

1931 Japan when they felt that

1:52:59

China had been sufficiently weakened they

1:53:02

invaded Manchuria so you understand that

1:53:05

all of what's going on in the

1:53:07

West today there's nothing new this is

1:53:09

old-school techniques of

1:53:12

warfare that go beyond tanks

1:53:14

and soldiers it's old-school warfare

1:53:17

using culture war degeneracy

1:53:19

and so forth. The

1:53:23

whole country was basically ridden with informers traders

1:53:25

and addicts and so the

1:53:28

invasion was basically

1:53:30

without and it was just China

1:53:32

fell right away. They

1:53:37

were shocked with in a city of two million

1:53:39

people it only took them 24 hours

1:53:41

to capture it. The next city

1:53:44

fell within six months and by 1932 Manchuria was

1:53:47

was renamed Manchukuo

1:53:51

a now Japanese vassal state and

1:53:54

the Japanese put in a man named Henry

1:53:56

Pu-Yi who was their puppet leader. was

1:54:00

then turned his attention to five northern

1:54:02

provinces of China and launched a successful

1:54:05

invasion in 1933. By

1:54:07

1937, the Japanese troops

1:54:10

led by Kenji Dohara had

1:54:12

captured Peking, Shanghai, and Nanking.

1:54:16

Now I enter the picture a figure you might have heard

1:54:18

of. General Chiang Kai-Shek

1:54:22

assumed leadership of the Chinese government in 1935. He

1:54:25

then launched an uncompromising counter-espionage

1:54:27

campaign that resulted in the

1:54:30

execution of hundreds of Kenji

1:54:33

Dohara's agents and ultimately the defeat

1:54:35

of the Japanese forces. So

1:54:38

Kenji Dohara could only

1:54:40

be stopped by Chiang

1:54:43

Kai-Shek. Those

1:54:45

who sought retribution for these activities by

1:54:48

Dohara were frustrated by the outbreak of World War

1:54:50

II. In fact, it was not until the end

1:54:52

of the war that Kenji Dohara was tried as

1:54:54

a war criminal convicted and it was

1:54:57

executed as the first

1:54:59

espionage agent in history sentenced

1:55:01

to death for the

1:55:04

crimes committed by all of

1:55:06

his subordinates. Fascinating. So here

1:55:10

we have stuff that

1:55:13

we all think is brand new. 95% of

1:55:15

the people in the country still don't even

1:55:18

know this is classic warfare.

1:55:22

Pop culture, drugs, 60s

1:55:25

counterculture stuff. Are you kidding me? The

1:55:28

Japanese were doing this in

1:55:30

the 1930s. By the way,

1:55:32

the British were doing it too. So this

1:55:36

is not conspiracy theory. This

1:55:38

is basic warfare history. So

1:55:44

when I was on Pearl's podcast, she said, my

1:55:47

dad is a Gen X boomer

1:55:49

age. He

1:55:52

says, all this conspiracy stuff's

1:55:54

crazy. What do you say to that? Now

1:55:57

think about this kind of a question. Every

1:56:01

boomer I've ever talked to and

1:56:04

even some of the Gen X too. They love

1:56:06

war stories Right

1:56:09

boomers love war stories And

1:56:18

they watch remember when the history channel used to

1:56:20

have actual history stuff not

1:56:22

just UFOs

1:56:24

and tiny mustache man and They

1:56:28

would do endless documentaries on D-Day and World

1:56:30

War two and the now

1:56:33

basic history of warfare is Full

1:56:37

of conspiracy. I just read you

1:56:39

an entire story of Kinji Dohara

1:56:42

Who was doing doing the subway

1:56:44

before Tim Leary? So

1:56:50

how do boomers and all these people who love

1:56:52

their war stories Did

1:56:54

this war stories are full of conspiracy?

1:56:56

What are you talking about? Well, it

1:56:58

was only during the war don't exist

1:57:00

now Really

1:57:06

So all the people who engage in

1:57:08

espionage and counter and counter espionage and

1:57:10

culture war they just said Oh war

1:57:12

is not happening now. So we won't

1:57:14

do any of these things anymore And

1:57:18

there's no such man as Jeff sonic effort. I'm gonna

1:57:20

exist Don't exist anymore.

1:57:22

It's crazy conspiracy Meanwhile

1:57:25

half of the boomers believed that Don

1:57:29

Trump was engaged in PP

1:57:33

gate Which is all fake,

1:57:36

but they believe that guy. I mean, it's just people are

1:57:38

these people are stupid These

1:57:40

people are stupid Now

1:57:45

Here's something fascinating we're gonna

1:57:47

thank you guys you guys being generous tonight. Appreciate those super chats

1:57:51

Welcome everybody Did

1:57:56

you know I

1:58:00

did not know this. I've read

1:58:02

a few books on the Civil War. I'm not a big,

1:58:04

I don't know a whole lot about the Civil War. I

1:58:06

read R.L. Dabney's Defense of Virginia in the South. We

1:58:10

had many classes in undergrad on

1:58:12

Civil War. I've

1:58:14

heard a million, I mean if you're from the

1:58:17

South, you've heard a million stories about who's

1:58:20

really at fault in the

1:58:22

Civil War. So I know all this stuff. But I'm

1:58:24

not like a Civil War

1:58:26

historian, okay. I know John Brown was

1:58:28

a terrorist. I know all this stuff,

1:58:30

okay. I didn't know that

1:58:33

the Confederates, I mean the Union did this too,

1:58:35

but did you know that the Confederates, they

1:58:38

had them some

1:58:40

lady spies. I did not know that. One

1:58:43

of the most famous lady spies, shall we

1:58:47

say, a

1:58:52

Southern bale. Have you

1:58:54

ever heard of Mrs. Bail Boyd of the

1:58:56

Southern, of the

1:58:58

Southern Army? Why Mrs. Bail

1:59:00

Boyd, why she was

1:59:03

flirting her way all around Civil War

1:59:07

secrets. Now it's

1:59:09

weird because like a one

1:59:12

or a two today, apparently

1:59:16

was like a 10 in the Civil War. I

1:59:19

mean, man these poor, I'm so

1:59:21

sorry for my, you know, great grandparents

1:59:23

and great, great, great, great grandparents because

1:59:26

man, they had some uggos back in the

1:59:28

day. Like that

1:59:31

is like a 10. I mean, this

1:59:33

chick was considered like the babe of the Civil

1:59:35

War, like a, ugh. Anyway,

1:59:43

Bail Boyd was flirting

1:59:45

and sleeping her way all around and

1:59:49

messing up them Union men. Now,

1:59:53

aside from Bail Boyd by the way, I

1:59:56

think she also was an

1:59:59

actor. Another

2:00:01

famous Civil War spy named

2:00:05

Pauline Cushman was

2:00:07

an actress and another

2:00:10

famous operative John

2:00:14

Wilkes Booth was an actor. Very

2:00:18

fascinating. So you've got all these Civil

2:00:21

War era people also

2:00:24

spies and actors. Fascinating.

2:00:29

So there's not a whole lot of that super

2:00:32

fascinating stuff with these people although this

2:00:34

this bell-boyed woman did do some pretty

2:00:36

wild stuff kind of flirting

2:00:39

and sleeping her way around getting secrets but she

2:00:41

never got really got in trouble so she was

2:00:43

like she was

2:00:46

linked romantically to many congressmen and

2:00:48

many high-ranking military officers of the

2:00:50

Union and her

2:00:52

sexual charisma was apparently so wild

2:00:56

that even though

2:00:58

she was eventually arrested by Pinkerton so

2:01:01

the first private security in America was Alan

2:01:04

Pinkerton Pinkerton which

2:01:06

is I think ultimately was like a Rockefeller thing or

2:01:09

connected to Rockefellers. She

2:01:12

eventually even

2:01:15

though she was arrested was still directing

2:01:17

all of her network of Confederate spies

2:01:19

from prison. I

2:01:21

mean this chick was wild. That

2:01:24

would be an interesting movie. The

2:01:32

Germans and we talked

2:01:34

about this when we covered the

2:01:36

Sutton books. There's this

2:01:38

whole fascinating history that many people don't know

2:01:40

about. There's a few movies from the 40s

2:01:42

that we have not yet covered and

2:01:45

watched about

2:01:48

German spies in America. So

2:01:51

you know there's some ones I think there's one

2:01:54

with Orson

2:01:57

Wells and Edward G

2:01:59

Robinson. There is one with

2:02:02

Joan Crawford about German spies.

2:02:06

And there's two or three of these that I haven't seen yet.

2:02:08

Jamie and I have been going through all of these thirties

2:02:12

and forties noir movies. I mean,

2:02:14

we have basically become noir experts,

2:02:17

okay? I'm not gonna lie, like

2:02:20

we are a legit, like mastering the

2:02:23

corpus of noir movies, okay?

2:02:27

I dare say that there will be few people in

2:02:31

the coming years who will know

2:02:33

and be able to recall and be

2:02:35

familiar with noir films like

2:02:38

me and Jamie. We're gonna be basically

2:02:40

PhD in noir. So

2:02:45

I've seen many of these. There's a couple of these

2:02:47

I've not yet seen. I can't

2:02:49

even remember all these. When

2:02:52

you dive into the noir in the forties and

2:02:54

the thirties, forties stuff, I

2:02:57

mean, there's so many. They were churning out

2:02:59

so many movies. The studios were churning out

2:03:01

so many, it's crazy. And

2:03:03

all the names of them are so bland,

2:03:06

like generic and the same. Like

2:03:08

you can't even keep up with all of them. But

2:03:13

there were many German spy networks

2:03:16

in the time of World War I and

2:03:18

then of course, obviously in the time of World War II.

2:03:20

And so many of these deal with this time period. For

2:03:23

example, Secret Agent by

2:03:25

Hitchcock is

2:03:29

a World War

2:03:31

I German spy network film.

2:03:34

And that has been remade many times. There

2:03:38

was a recent BBC version of this. I thought that

2:03:41

was pretty good. That was a good version of this.

2:03:44

If you've never seen Secret Agent by Hitchcock, I

2:03:46

do recommend it. It's a really good movie. Here

2:03:48

is the thirties version of it. That

2:03:51