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well hello from the los angeles friends

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yes i am in gavin newsom a territory

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once again it is really insanely

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for john macarthur in greece community

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open and we won an amazing victory

3:11

against gavin newsom against l

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the project if you would like to so

3:33

i'm here in los angeles but i'll be back a

3:35

home next week and joining you from there but

3:38

i also had an opportunity to catch up

3:40

earlier today with my good friend missouri

3:42

attorney general eric schmidt by phone

3:45

and we wanted to talk about this very

3:47

important lawsuit that he's filed

3:49

against the biden administration that is

3:52

proving how big tech

3:54

colluded with the button administration

3:56

and took direction from the

3:58

white house to the answer americans

4:01

viewpoints as quote unquote misinformation

4:04

during and i'd only the covered pandemic that

4:06

possibly even more so

4:08

remember when president trump filed his lawsuit

4:11

against the big tech and said hey they're

4:13

basically acting as an agent of

4:15

the united states government to they shouldn't get first

4:17

amendment protections a bunch of liberals

4:19

of course laughed at that said president trump's

4:21

of know what he's doing his lawyers are idiots yeah the same

4:23

old rigmarole fight this

4:26

lawsuit from eric schmidt and also

4:28

the louisiana attorney general jeff laundry

4:31

shows currently through

4:33

discovery an email from

4:35

the white house and the by the administration

4:38

and big tech back and forth showing

4:40

that they intentionally are colluding

4:43

to censor american speech

4:45

and have in ministry of truth

4:48

for what they term as cool

4:50

vid this information you will not

4:52

want to miss this great conversation

4:55

with eric schmidt i'm so glad that he filed a

4:57

lawsuit of canada air

4:59

treat you so much for joining me today and where

5:01

we are in this lawsuit

5:03

obviously this is so important but what is

5:05

the goal here

5:06

the illustrates be with you jennifer so as

5:08

you mentioned we filed the lawsuit in may and and

5:11

what we've been doing for the past the few

5:13

months really is wrangling with

5:15

a lot of folks from the other side about discovery

5:17

so we've issued the discovery

5:20

requests and you know what i'd

5:22

suggest to take a step back the lawsuit

5:24

essentially alleges war does allege

5:26

that big government the by demonstration

5:29

is colluding directly with the

5:31

social media platforms facebook twitter

5:34

the you tube to censor speech

5:36

censor content which of course if the government

5:39

were doing it by itself would be illegal that's

5:41

what we have the first amendment force protect that by

5:43

the government doesn't get to outsource that

5:45

censorship to private companies which is exactly

5:48

what's happening and so i think the worst fears

5:50

have been realized in what we've discovered

5:53

through this discovery process the documents

5:55

that have been produced so far this

5:57

lawsuit is a

5:59

of that

6:01

the

6:01

though censorship enterprise quite

6:04

frankly and that's what we're dealing with and so

6:07

what we've though so far jenna is that

6:10

or we've identified so far

6:12

in the discovery process at

6:14

least forty five officials

6:17

are in the united in the us government the federal

6:19

level mostly agencies in the pudding at

6:21

the white house that we're having constant

6:24

communication with the social media platforms

6:26

to the platform people to take content

6:28

down which of course is

6:31

in direct violation of the first amendment what

6:33

we know so far from the first round of discovery

6:36

which i think is important to kind of separate

6:38

two buckets the first is what we've gotten

6:41

so far which is a lot of different

6:43

agencies on federal agencies

6:45

this you know the surgeon general for example

6:48

ah example lot of those folks those communications

6:50

we thought we got those documents last

6:52

week and what they show is

6:54

i mean you know things

6:56

like

6:57

setting up weekly calls censorship

6:59

calls between the government and

7:01

these big tech companies to take

7:04

people out to you know censor

7:06

content to take things down the direct flagging

7:08

that quite frankly jen psaki said they

7:10

were doing and they were kind of open an obvious about

7:12

this and a tourist on what

7:15

they also were doing is the social media companies were

7:17

changing their terms of service you

7:19

know in response to direction

7:21

from the government in , also

7:23

have communications which week you know

7:26

put out there last week with our most recent

7:28

finally have , facebook

7:30

official testing the surgeon general

7:32

united states saying hey we her with you had to say

7:35

we did that what more can we do i

7:37

mean this has direct collusion between government

7:40

the and you end up and twitter and facebook

7:42

to take these opinions down there

7:45

they thought were misinformation disinformation

7:48

and is scary because we also found

7:50

out right a few months ago that there was

7:52

a disinformation governance board

7:54

where you had the ministry of truth with mary

7:56

poppins running the show or

7:58

these folks are serious

7:59

the about this year they were they were they

8:02

were they were hellbent on silencing

8:04

you know

8:05

hundreds of thousands of americans

8:07

and their points of view millions of americans you disagree

8:09

with that they were this is the government of united

8:11

states that some third world banana republic that

8:13

was doing it but the second piece jenna

8:16

the came out this week so the department

8:18

justice was objecting to us getting

8:20

documents from senior white

8:22

house officials claim executive

8:24

privilege which of course is nonsense because

8:27

it was leaving communications in turn will communicate

8:29

and these were communications to the outside

8:31

right to be social media companies and a judge

8:34

ruled this past week that

8:36

we are entitled to that in so we're gonna

8:38

get communications from anthony thought you were going to get

8:40

communications arm from the

8:42

white house press secretary and those

8:44

would be very revealing because and

8:46

think we need to know what he at the sassy was

8:48

communicating a we have some sense of whether

8:51

was you know the ineffectiveness of mass

8:53

or the disjointed policy that they had or

8:56

trying to debunk people who are raising

8:58

serious scientific questions about what they were

9:00

saying you've got that and then also

9:02

we're asking questions about you know the twenty twenty

9:04

election and will end the hundred by laptop

9:07

and what you see i guess in

9:09

the in the and the macro here

9:11

there's a lot of people a lot

9:14

of senior people in the by demonstration

9:17

directing

9:18

the social media platforms

9:20

to censor speech and that's illegal that's

9:22

why this lawsuit so important

9:25

recruit mindblowing and

9:27

as i've been following all of your tweets

9:30

and and by the way forever and listening if you're not following

9:33

eg eric schmidt on twitter you need to

9:35

be because he put that a lot of really specific

9:37

content about i'd this lawsuit

9:39

what you've gotten from the discover so far

9:41

and at this is this

9:43

is incredible that this is happening in the united

9:46

states of america and yet one of the

9:48

the emails that stood out with from a senior facebook

9:50

official that since an email to the surgeon general

9:52

stating quote i know or teams met

9:55

today to better understand the scope of what the white

9:57

house expect from us on misinformation

9:59

going forward yeah

10:02

this this facebook

10:05

and these big tech companies acting

10:08

as agents of the government

10:10

right so you know what can

10:12

be done about this once you receiving

10:14

all this information

10:16

we gotta put a stop to the right because it's so ongoing

10:18

mean they've been generally been so brazen

10:21

about this mean you had jen psaki saying

10:23

in l a thicker lawsuit had already been filed

10:26

the saki at the podium saying we

10:28

are working with facebook to flag misinformation

10:31

on the government doesn't get to do that way they

10:33

don't they don't get to tell a private com it

10:35

was simply their an appendage now the federal government

10:38

because you've got those kinds of emails you also

10:40

have you know email from

10:43

a a a senior official

10:45

with somebody on you tube flagging

10:49

something and i'm saying we're on you

10:51

know like these are this isn't just

10:53

like a random email here and have these are constant

10:56

communications these are weekly calls

10:58

this is text messages between like i said

11:00

the surgeon general and a senior white

11:02

house or are faced with official this

11:05

is direct collusion i mean they are directing

11:07

these agencies to sell a lot of people have

11:10

suspected the center for a long time the

11:12

were actually proving the case now on a lotta times

11:15

in some the previous lawsuits you

11:17

know they were filed against some of the social media

11:19

companies you know they're in the northern district

11:21

of california and you never get to discovery

11:24

or it's different here as missouri partnered with

11:26

louisiana we have filed as states

11:29

representing the people of our state the

11:31

and we've got a judge now that's actually allowing us

11:33

to tilt book to peek under the hood which

11:35

has never happened before and like i said i think

11:37

it's been shockey and does reveal in

11:40

fact as censorship

11:42

enterprise between the government and victor

11:46

what into this is where so many people through

11:48

the trump administration and and president trump

11:50

of course is calling for a either

11:52

a repeal or a reasoning a section

11:54

two thirty and of course big tech has said

11:57

will now in the first amendment doesn't apply to us with

11:59

that's only government but now because there

12:01

is so much evidence and so much proof

12:03

that they're acting as you said is an appendage

12:06

l a or an agent of the government

12:08

and at their direction they shouldn't

12:10

get section two thirty or a

12:13

week or protections at all because the

12:15

first amendment now does apply to them because

12:17

of acting as the government in censorship

12:20

that's right and and one of the things i'm most excited

12:22

about if you know and i was the running for united

12:25

states that you know being the center needs to be congressional

12:27

and senate

12:28

hearings

12:29

day after day a bring in

12:31

sochi i'm bringing some these folks

12:34

to kind of amplify this and learn more

12:36

because this is not something that we should tolerate

12:38

united states of america and i don't even care

12:40

what your political stripe this this is scary

12:42

stuff this is orwellian stuff

12:45

and you combine that you know with the f

12:47

b i be weaponized against parents

12:50

and to the patriot act to me that such a political

12:52

operation out for justice it's

12:54

is this the ministration has taken steps with

12:56

never seen before like this in so

12:58

it's worst fears i'm realizing

13:01

you're right on section two thirty i mean i

13:04

was actually not been very involved with this myself

13:06

because i think if you take a step back in the

13:08

nineties what the law essentially

13:11

did was to say okay we're

13:13

not going to treat you like a publisher you

13:15

know we're not a country like published published

13:17

can be sued for you know misstatements

13:20

and an intentional misstatements

13:22

of fact and you know defame in keep

13:24

all those sorts of things store they said was internet

13:27

companies like facebook and twitter we're going

13:30

to set your part because you're an open platform

13:32

right your place where people can have their views

13:34

expressed in it's like the new town squares

13:36

and online public forum and

13:39

now what faced with is done on their

13:41

own and twitter on their own they're

13:43

acting as a publisher they're acting as

13:45

publisher so that in and of itself

13:47

said dislodge them from this protection

13:50

they've done some section two thirty what makes

13:52

this different is this going well beyond

13:54

that's just really your private company this

13:56

is the government now partnering

13:58

with these companies to the censor the

14:01

and as a new layer of are you

14:03

as a problematic where your that's been unraveled

14:06

and we're going to keep going and we were not done we

14:08

haven't seen those emails yet of we're

14:10

going to get to see him now between fouchon

14:12

some these companies are the white house

14:14

press secretary sunday's companies

14:17

and we'll see what we don't know right now june i think

14:19

the big question here is how

14:21

far does this go how of

14:24

the food chain does this go and how why does ago

14:26

and this and this first vehicle that's been out there

14:28

for us to get those important answers

14:31

the other they're great questions and your

14:33

well how do they define misinformation

14:36

is this limited to just their

14:38

health in

14:40

cancun what they think it should be ever

14:42

one's perspective on the vaccine

14:45

and co they'd or is this more widespread

14:47

and so how how big of

14:49

an of the net do you have

14:51

in terms of discovering what you're able

14:53

to get in responsible

14:55

the

14:56

the pretty broad and down but i think you're

14:58

like i said that the three

15:01

been buckets year you've got some of the issues related

15:03

to the point on election that they were trying to shut down

15:05

people had opposing points of view when

15:07

you had the hundred by laptops story which

15:10

mark zuckerberg by the way coincidentally

15:13

right before these documents released zuckerberg

15:16

goes on joe rogan and kind of comes clean about

15:19

hey we were directed by the f b i

15:21

and one hundred biden laptops are were given a heads

15:23

up on that to say this is gonna be misinformation

15:26

that was new information and by the way i don't think

15:28

if we didn't have a lawsuit in play

15:30

facebook or these companies would be so open

15:32

about what actually went down so

15:35

there's still information be found out about the suppression

15:37

of that story with you know the government

15:40

even afterwards with the arms of the social

15:42

media companies but clearly the biggest

15:44

part of all this right now is the covered nineteen

15:46

know whether a was you

15:49

know on the vaccine issue or

15:51

damascus you am you have the teachers

15:53

unions dictating to the cdc i mean

15:56

this this this guidance that was really harmful

15:58

for kids you know for i'm asking

16:00

a five year old there's proven to

16:02

be a terrible mistake loss of learning

16:04

psychological emotional issues in missouri

16:07

we , stand for i sued forty seven school

16:10

districts in missouri there were forcing them asking

16:12

of kids got into back down but

16:14

it was just it was unfair you see now this

16:16

disparity across the country of of

16:18

learning it's past wars it was a total disaster

16:21

and that's the direct response in the responsibility

16:23

lays there at the of with anti fouty

16:25

in the cdc and some of the what they were sending out

16:28

and trying to cross people who are you

16:30

questioning this and so it'll

16:32

be very instructive for us to find out what

16:34

exactly was that communication between

16:36

fantasy and other entities on the outside

16:39

or to try or punish people who are raising legitimate

16:41

questions

16:43

you are so right that every

16:45

one in america should be concerned about

16:48

this ministry of truth that intentional

16:51

and misinformation silencing

16:53

collision campaign regardless of what

16:55

your political background or belief

16:58

is as this is so important and i'm so

17:00

thankful i eric schmidt that you're taking

17:02

the phone and and just the last two minutes that i have with

17:04

you here so of course you are a

17:06

candidate for the us senate from missouri

17:08

a president trump did endorsed your manager

17:11

of the sake you guys in the primary with

17:13

when it came out and said i'm dirk in iraq that was

17:15

now it's funny of i lasted that

17:17

and that was great but you know the you

17:19

obviously have the endorsements are

17:21

moving forward on i hope that you win

17:24

so as as you go into

17:26

the senate on how are you

17:28

going to then take this battle the mayor

17:30

and how can people support you

17:32

it was we need proven conservative fighters

17:34

and that has been my record i think that's why the

17:36

one in a in a crowded primary fuel by of by

17:38

big margin because people have seen

17:41

the actions taken on his attorney general we're i

17:43

was the first one to challenge your the ocean

17:45

vaccine mandate missouri was the first eight the fall

17:47

into that the supreme court we won we taken

17:49

on big tech the taken on this ridiculous

17:51

he has to agenda we've taken on joe biden

17:54

war on american uci were fighting those

17:56

important sites and winning and on the take that same

17:58

fighting spirit nice state senate because we

18:00

have to hold these people cannibal i really believe

18:03

that we need reinforcements in washington to

18:05

save america their the democrats or

18:07

not i mean they're playing for keeps

18:09

right now we're not have been traditional debates

18:11

about entitlement reform of things like that

18:13

they are literally to boatswain senate from

18:15

and states the union impact on the court and

18:18

federalizing elections and open borders name

18:20

is the they want a fundamentally changes country

18:22

forever and we gotta get the right people there who

18:24

are going to fight back that's been my record the

18:27

and as want to take the senate if people want to help

18:29

would love to have their hell these you can

18:31

text smith as the to my t v which is

18:33

my last name to three zero four

18:35

zero nine that's a great way to get involved

18:37

and help it's a big race we don't take

18:39

the majority back we don't win the

18:41

show me state your missouri and i

18:44

intend to do that weren't good spot but we're

18:46

gonna work as hard as we can through nov

18:48

a to make sure we get it done

18:51

related follow eric schmidt also

18:53

on social media at iraq with the see

18:55

underscored schmidt and last

18:57

question for you how concerned are you about

19:00

election integrity in the mid terms for

19:02

i actually holding the

19:04

democrats accountable and making sure that we get

19:07

good at save america america

19:09

first republicans that back in the majority

19:12

it's it's a fundamental issue for us right

19:14

i mean everything in this system is

19:16

self government relies on the integrity

19:19

of our elections and i've joked you know get

19:21

ready for that the mid term variant with so

19:23

this is so they can try to manipulate

19:25

on the election laws against but it's

19:27

important in it's something we have to continue to stay

19:29

focused on because you're

19:32

making sure you know people have

19:34

to show who they are when they vote in you

19:36

when you you know if you're if you're

19:38

there's a lot of measures that are very important

19:40

to protect the integrity of elections we have to be focused

19:43

on can't it distracted because

19:45

again people's faith in our election process is

19:47

really important in some omelet continuously focus

19:49

on as somebody whose father was important

19:51

fights or in court after twenty twenty

19:53

and and beyond so

19:56

why were we look for the having you in

19:58

the united states senate and continue the battle thank

20:00

you so much for i really

20:02

being the tip of the spirit holding big tech

20:05

accountable this is an incredibly important case

20:07

so as you get more discovery i'm

20:09

working with i'll be looking forward to seeing all of that

20:11

ah on social media holding them accountable

20:14

on their own platforms which is great but that

20:16

also have any back here to talk about

20:18

it the think he so much attorney general eric

20:20

schmidt really appreciate your time said

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