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Hello again everybody and welcome to

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the Royal Rumble edition of the

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Jim Cornette Experience. Vince McMahon is

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gone again. Slim Jim

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left and came back and the

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Royal Rumble was the latest big

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event overshadowed by chaos in the

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mainstream news. And joining me to

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talk about all this and so

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much more, Hawaiian Brian the Podcasting

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Lion the King of the Arcadian Vanguard

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Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you. He

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was going to be number 31 in the Rumble

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but the airline lost his bag. Be

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great Brian Last everybody. Aloha Jim, a

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pleasure to be here once again and

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I did not enjoy the Rumble as much as I did last

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year's Rumble. I'll just say that to start. Well

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don't give anything away. But

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I think it's kind of, it

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might be self evident. There were moments,

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there were moments and then there was a lot

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of other moments. But

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we'll talk about that. Do you

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remember when back

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in the old days Brian when

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promoters tried to sabotage other companies'

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pay-per-views and not their own? I

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do. Is this two

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in a row now that something

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bizarre comes out right

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before a company's pay-per-view that's of their

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own making or technically in this case

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of the previous administration's

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own making? The

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big event, it's kind of like after it's over you're like,

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I wish I liked that a lot more to make up

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for the other shit. And

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it was like, eh. But

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anyway, before we

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get into this story with Mr.

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McMahon who has

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now been replaced Satan

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on the fucking all-time hit list of

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people who want to burn

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him in hot fucking boiling oil.

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Well deserved, allegedly. Do

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We have to say allegedly at this point? I guess

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it still hadn't been adjudicated. Jeremy McDivitt still on the

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pay- Are we have to say allegedly said no? I

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guess. Jeremy Day. Unless he discovered

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the Fountain of youth, he's not going to

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live long enough. To get Vince Mcmahon

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out of a this shit. And. I'm

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I'm betting yeah. he's got his telephone

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disconnected. East East Clip the fucking cord.

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And but that is. At any

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rate, whether it's a legit or not,

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Vince. Has so much heat you know that some

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of his buck and he. And.

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I will tell people what have because the

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other day we had just finished we were

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still on headset with each other talking. Head

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video recording one of the. Eighteen

2:36

shows we do every week. When

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suddenly the Wall Street Journal headline popped

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up on your computer and we were

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still go in and Weezer will do

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a breaking news for the you to

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be what's bucks going on here. Vince

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getting sued again. It

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as we read this. You

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know, I. Don't know what say

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to your folks otherwise than goddamn it.

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If. You can read in the

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Wall Street Journal. That. An

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internationally famous billionaire that you

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once worked for. His.

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Be and ahold and to court and

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sued for among other things ship known

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some buddies head you're gonna fuckin' last.

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And. Is potentially at that point

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a whole thing becomes a fucking real.

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So. Apologize for my first blush.

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but here's another thing. As

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we've come to. Find.

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Out more details because lot of people by

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the time that. They. Listen To

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this thing. Zig.

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The comments on either Twitter or the

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You Tube channel. There's.

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Some fuck him people again on

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this issue. Vitter.

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Just goddamn. A.

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Is is with a lack of taste.

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The. Only own on know a variety

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of points. As

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it were blame and this girl. This.

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yeah lady. Because

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I think that's in addition to the

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people that were hot at us. We're saying we're the worst

4:06

human beings in the world because we were laughing at and

4:09

making mockery of this thing after they'd read

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the complaint because now the complaint is out

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in public. But

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there's also people that unfortunately,

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they see this shit on television and

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they figure well this is another one

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of the cases of the Hollywood producer

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getting his girlfriend apart in a fucking movie

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or fucking pushing

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her to goddamn the moon on

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the stage or whatever the fuck or

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some kind of business arrangement gone

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wrong. And most

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normal people that live,

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even you and me that are

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not normal but live somewhat rational

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fucking lives and don't deal

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with tens and hundreds of millions of

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dollars and they see shit

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on TV about NDAs

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and hush money payoffs and

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millions of dollar payments going on

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and fucking BMWs being bandied about

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and they think well everybody's full

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of shit. Fuck all these people.

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And because of what happened last

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year, Vince was outed

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with the hush money payments and all

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that shit or now the year

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before I guess. People

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never could figure we made jokes

5:26

about the illegal paralegal and

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somebody, you know, everybody

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assumed that well Vince gets girlfriends

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and he's got them on the side and then he

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gives them jobs and

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pays them a bunch of money and whatever

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the fuck and he was paying his girlfriends

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with company money. Well

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they're all a bunch of heels. But

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when you read the actual

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and how do you get –

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is this public, the complaint, the

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lawsuit, whatever the terminology is? everybody

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on go read this. This wasn't a St.

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Petersburg and found some stripper at a goddamn

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Hooters or whatever and gave her a job

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in the legal department. Remember

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when you asked me on the clip because I'd seen a

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black and white picture and I said what can she be

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30 and I was kind of giving

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it the benefit of the doubt to the elder side

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because he fucking 75. But then

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you said

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well I don't know

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she looks younger than that. I saw the color

6:33

picture I said you're right we think she

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was 21. We've got to verify

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that because there's been some kind of other reports

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you thought she was in her early 40s. The

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newspaper said flat out I saw I think a

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New York Post and somewhere else that she was

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43 and that she was 41 a couple years

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ago when all this happened. Well

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bullshit. So the

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point is she's very

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young girl this never had a job or

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worked out in the real world because she's

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been taken care of her ailing parents that

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have passed away they've lost a family home

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in bankruptcy. This is like goddamn

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Dorothy in Kansas it's a tragedy and

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because she lives in this building

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where she knows the building manager the building

7:17

manager says well you ought to meet Vince McMahon he's

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a billionaire maybe he could help you give you a

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job in his company because she doesn't know what to

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do. So that's

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where she's not experienced in

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any of these things and suddenly

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gets in with this master fucking

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manipulator and we've

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talked about you

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know Vince's Jedi mind tricks

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with with the wrestlers on getting

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them to do finishes or talking about a shit

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but when you read this this

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lawsuit it's it's

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like a horror movie it's insane the

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way that he... It's mind games. It

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was him playing mind games. No that

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trivializes it. I

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can't believe he had to be

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writing shit down to do this,

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to prey on her mind like

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this. This

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wasn't any kind of frivolous

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arrangement with some hooter's girl.

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This was this poor girl

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that's obviously disturbed mentally about

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numerous things and here

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comes this billionaire handing

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her all this shit and telling her she's going to

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be a vice president? I wouldn't even say disturbed mentally.

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It's a girl and we don't know exactly how old

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because of the conflicting things. She was going through a

8:36

ton of shit. Wouldn't it disturb you if

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your parents had died and they were bankrupt and

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lost house? But it signifies something else when you

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phrase it like that. Well, I'm disturbed mentally. She's

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someone who's obviously going through

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an incredible ordeal

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emotionally and it appears

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based on what you read in the complaint

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and again, like you have talked about, it's

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out there public, anyone could see it. She

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goes into detail about their first meeting. It

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was like a two-hour meeting in his apartment, his

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penthouse and it was all

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him trying to relate to her, all

9:08

him trying to relate her

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hardships to everything he experienced growing up

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and that's how it started. And

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number one, I talked about

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in previous

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episodes plenty of time how the

9:26

times that I

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was around Vince McMahon,

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his contact with anybody

9:33

was so limited besides the limo to

9:35

the fucking show, to the office, to

9:38

the fucking way. It

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boggles my mind what has happened to it.

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Is it a combination of late

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stage? I don't know of late stage.

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We're late age concussions. He started getting

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concussions after the age of 50 and

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all the fucking human

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growth hormone and testosterone or whatever. whatever

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the fuck he's done and... Well

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you were around him during the one brief period

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of time where he acted like an adult, in

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between the steroid trial and all the scandals of

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the early 90s and the attitude error. When

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he was the most behaved, where he seemed

10:15

at the time he got off steroids and he just seemed like

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a skinny guy who was in shape, he

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seemed like he was growing up and then they

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threw a billion dollars at him and a

10:23

publicly traded stock. No, no, no, no. First he got

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in the ring. First he got

10:28

in the ring and then the fucking body went

10:31

out of control and then he got a billion

10:33

dollars. But he was on steroids in the 80s

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and 90s. He got off him for a

10:37

few years. Again, he had scandals everywhere. It

10:39

was the sex scandal, it was the steroid

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trial. And then we

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don't know if this is

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something that's been in his behavior going

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how far back? We just don't

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know. This is one story we're hearing about. You

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have to wonder if this is really the first

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time he's done any of these things or something that he's

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become accustomed to. We really don't know. But

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I don't think it's fair

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to assume that this is just

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something he started doing in his 70s out of

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boredom. Well,

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how could you start doing this in your fucking 70s? I

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mean, it's just... And that's the... With

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Vince, during the time that I was there,

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being in a room where he was like being in a

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fucking room with the principal. You

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know, I can't fathom

11:28

this behavior and from that and from

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the people around him. But

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dealing chronologically with

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this thing, he

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put time and effort into

11:41

this plot against

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this girl, constantly

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meeting her, constantly giving her gifts,

11:48

letting her go to WrestleMania, her

11:50

building manager, have promised

11:53

her these jobs, and then set it up

11:55

and then put her in these places where

11:58

not only did she not have... everything to do and she

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didn't know what she was supposed to be doing for all this

12:03

money, but apparently most of

12:05

the people that

12:07

she was working under knew that

12:10

she was there not to do anything. And they

12:13

didn't say anything. And then

12:15

when finally he coerces

12:18

her at it, again we're not gonna

12:21

go blow-by-blow on this now with this

12:23

ridiculous shit. But

12:25

I mean

12:28

I can't imagine being in the building

12:32

25 years ago when I was in that office

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and the

12:36

shit going on, it even remotely resembling

12:38

this and people not obviously knowing about

12:41

it and how they were able to

12:43

keep it under fucking cover indicates

12:47

that a number of

12:49

people apparently just didn't give a shit. Makes

12:51

it clear from reading the complaint, although

12:54

there are a number of parties unnamed and

12:56

we could discuss that in a little while,

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that company-wide

13:02

or executive-wide there was a

13:05

longtime knowledge of Vince's

13:07

behavior, an attempt to kind

13:09

of brush it aside or ignore it and

13:12

maybe even protect him. Protect

13:14

the company by protecting him too. But

13:17

it doesn't appear like... I'm

13:19

not saying these executives knew some of the

13:21

gory details, but they

13:23

certainly knew something was happening

13:26

with someone who was not qualified to be there,

13:28

who had a job, it

13:30

appears from the complaint everyone knew why she was

13:32

there. That's the other

13:34

thing, like from the complaint from like day one, people

13:37

knew she wasn't... I hate

13:39

to... I don't know what to call it, a proper hire. Someone

13:42

who had the qualifications for the job, she

13:45

was Vince's person put

13:47

there to pacify

13:49

Vince. Everyone knew that from

13:51

day one. That's a systematic

13:53

problem. Here's the thing, I

13:55

don't see how... and I agree

13:57

with you, probably most people did not know...

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particular details which

14:04

besides the fact that maybe something might have

14:06

been done beforehand also nobody would have been

14:08

able to keep quiet. There

14:11

were still enough people named in this

14:13

that were involved and knew

14:15

the details because they were there in the room that

14:17

you would that how the fuck this

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is another thing Vince his

14:23

brain has melted along with his

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face now we've laughed about it

14:27

because he looks like fucking Ernie

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Kovacs in a fucking 50s

14:31

TV sketch but

14:34

he would have never been

14:37

this stupid or this childish or

14:39

this I didn't even ever

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see evil you know I

14:43

saw you know the guy I'm gonna put this you

14:45

know guy out of business or that or whatever but

14:47

not you know his

14:50

brain is evil melted yeah and and

14:53

but here's what I was gonna say

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she has so much proof in

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the or at least evidence everybody has

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to call it evidence even if you don't call

15:03

it proof with it if you the

15:06

text messages if you

15:08

faked text messages from a goddamn billionaire with

15:11

all of this kind of publicity I'm sure

15:13

you could find a fucking expert to disprove

15:15

them and they fucking put them out there.

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Hey can I stop you talking about the

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text messages yes there's a few things I

15:21

want to ask you about those please don't

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read any of them they'll kick us off

15:26

of yeah whatever we're on and again we

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hadn't seen all of that when we discussed

15:30

this previously and it's incredible to see these

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that Vince McMahon is actually sending these horrific

15:35

text messages out there gross or if whatever

15:37

you want to call them they there's a

15:39

range of them the

15:41

first question is does

15:44

he have spelling like when you used to get

15:46

memos from him or anything anything he wrote what

15:49

did you get from him ever that he wrote and does

15:51

he have spelling issues because there are

15:53

several words or you know he

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writes like Prince like there are letters

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no well he's trying to do I

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think he's trying to do the thing

16:03

the kids do where the word you

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is instead the capital letter you and

16:08

then you are is your and I think

16:10

he's got some kind of shorthand he thinks

16:12

making him look hip. Here's the thing. When

16:16

I left that was just at the era

16:18

when they were getting the what were

16:21

the blackberries? Was that what it

16:23

was? Yeah. The

16:26

black and everybody because as soon as Jim Ross

16:28

would come to OVW or Bruce or anybody would

16:30

come down from the office to OVW they'd

16:33

have these things and you could I said

16:35

what the fuck Vince wanted to

16:37

be able to keep in contact with

16:40

everybody always and we

16:42

were fortunate it was basically a phone in your

16:45

house in back in my day in the office

16:47

and right as I left all this shit happened.

16:50

So I would never got

16:52

a text from him or text it as

16:54

everybody knows or blah blah blah. But

16:58

I started thinking about

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this how you're

17:02

how you're a billionaire like

17:04

this a multi-billionaire international

17:07

figure and it's same thing as you're the

17:09

president and you're sending shit like this out

17:11

to somebody does

17:13

not show the at

17:15

least the prudent judgment of the potentially

17:18

sane Vince McMahon I once knew but

17:20

I started thinking you

17:22

know me Brian I'm an obsessive saver

17:25

and I save things and

17:27

paperwork and file shit. I do

17:30

not have one example of

17:33

Vince McMahon's handwriting because

17:39

we would be the he insisted

17:41

everybody if Jim Ross is in the

17:44

room Bruce Pritchard shit stain anybody. We've

17:47

all got same kind of ledger book that we're

17:49

all booking out of we've all got the same

17:51

house show cards that we're working off of that

17:53

Jim Ross is booked or whatever. We're

17:56

all writing our own notes

17:58

as we're talking about it. I

18:01

would see Vince writing his book and

18:03

make notations on his cards or

18:06

whatever, but Vince would

18:08

call up and he would dictate shit or

18:10

he'd tell people, hey, do so and so,

18:13

or let so and so make the changes

18:16

to the cards or disseminate this information, or

18:19

you would get memos from the office

18:21

that he didn't actually write but that

18:23

he dictated. From

18:28

1996 to 1999, he

18:31

had a computer in his office but we

18:33

didn't have a fucking computer on the desk

18:35

or the table in the dining room that

18:37

we booked TV off of. Nobody

18:40

had a computer in that fucking room. He

18:43

didn't type, at least

18:45

as I've ever saw at that point. So

18:48

that's the thing. He's

18:51

like Trump. He didn't put shit on paper. We

18:54

like Trump in more ways than we found out. So

18:59

I've gotten many notes from Bruce or

19:01

JR would have Xerox copies of the

19:03

cards that he had written out by

19:05

hand. I could fucking

19:07

forge Jim Ross's handwriting

19:09

at this point but

19:12

you got nothing that Vince actually sat

19:14

down and wrote himself at least in

19:16

those days. But

19:19

when you see the text,

19:23

it's a 17-year-old disturbed

19:25

boy just

19:27

having diarrhea

19:30

of the keyboard

19:33

type into

19:36

some fantasy fucking girl with

19:38

one hand and the other hands in

19:40

his lap. And it's

19:42

embarrassing for a fucking – again,

19:45

it's like I've known a guy I

19:47

thought was Professor Albert Einstein. It turns

19:50

out he's fucking Jeremy, whatever

19:52

the fuck, that porn star. I've

19:56

lost his name now. Ron Jeremy. Ron

19:59

Jeremy. Let's just be

20:01

happy Vince put it all in writing because this is only what's

20:03

in the complaint. That doesn't mean this is

20:05

anywhere close to everything. That's only what's in the complaint.

20:07

And you know what else? What else in the single

20:09

pool? In three years, how many texts did he send

20:12

her when there's five of these in the fucking 70

20:14

pages of this thing? It has

20:16

to be thousands. And who else did he text?

20:18

There were other people who got million-dollar payoffs that,

20:21

for one reason or another, what were they getting? And here's

20:23

the other thing. When

20:25

was this? August is

20:28

when he was hit with a

20:30

grand jury subpoena and

20:33

a search warrant. Did

20:35

they grab his electronics? I

20:38

don't know. I wasn't there. Because there's a

20:40

big thing. If they got his phone or his computer –

20:42

because if we're reading what he's

20:44

sending her, which is disgusting,

20:48

and he's sending this

20:50

to her thinking that she's

20:52

on his side, that she's going to do it, what

20:54

was he sending to Laurinitis? What

20:57

was he sending to the physical therapist that

20:59

he was doing stuff with? Well, yeah.

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And if you haven't read

21:04

this, folks, Laurinitis was involved in

21:06

some of it. There's

21:08

a quote-unquote physical therapist

21:11

that was involved in the head

21:15

defecation that a parent –

21:17

and he's – Vince not

21:19

only starts a physical relationship with this

21:22

young lady, but then he gets Laurinitis in on it,

21:24

then he gets this other guy in on it, then

21:26

he starts having her take and

21:29

send pictures and videos to other people. And

21:32

now she's worried about that

21:34

because they've got blackmail on her because they've

21:36

got all this fucking porn

21:38

of her. And he says he's showing it to

21:40

everyone. He says, I'm showing it to

21:42

people and they all want to sleep with you. Yeah,

21:46

and here's the thing. This, again, I'm not

21:48

absolving Vince McMahon of anything. I'm actually –

21:50

this is more indicting than the

21:52

way some people are taking it. There's

21:55

this longest – I didn't know you

21:57

could text this long. It's just paragraphs

22:00

of it. paragraphs with no indentations of

22:03

how he was showing her pictures to

22:05

a bunch of

22:07

quote a bunch of guys on

22:10

the tech crew. There were, I

22:12

paused to count out loud how many guys there

22:14

were 12 and

22:16

all the it's like the unnatural stilted

22:19

dialogue that he would give

22:21

the fucking talent on television

22:24

in that he's telling her that all of these guys want

22:26

to do this and that and the other thing and

22:30

they're cheering loudly the thought of

22:32

doing these things, he's

22:34

in a TV taping and he's saying

22:37

this like it didn't really happen is

22:40

what I'm saying of all these other

22:42

things. Yes but this didn't

22:44

really happen, he's like a 17

22:46

year old fucking pervert

22:48

teenage kid blurting

22:51

this shit out like a penthouse forum letter

22:54

as a 75 year

22:56

old supposed adult billionaire to

22:59

this girl who's got to be saying what

23:01

the fuck is going on here? Well she's

23:03

stuck because again she has no job, she

23:05

has no home, she has an apartment she's

23:07

living in and what I'm gonna

23:10

assume is a expensive building to

23:12

live in. It's a half-life neighborhood.

23:14

So it's an expensive place to live, Vince

23:16

Buddy's up to her, I'm gonna get you

23:18

a job, I'm gonna pay all this money,

23:21

it quickly becomes apparent that the job

23:23

is in exchange for him

23:25

just wanting sex all the time or

23:27

eventually and this is where

23:30

the sex trafficking starts to come in

23:32

ordering her to have

23:34

sex with other people, setting a schedule.

23:37

This guy wants Tuesdays, this

23:39

guy wants Mondays, he's acting like

23:41

a pimp. It's

23:45

insane. They

23:47

have dirty shit in their face. No,

23:50

we never do anything. Again,

23:54

that's why it's in

23:56

a business that has been based

23:58

on preposterous stories. that were surrounding

24:02

ridiculous personalities for a hundred

24:05

and something years, this is

24:07

the fucking most outrageous

24:11

ever, one would think. But

24:14

again, she's got documentation on when

24:17

they did the NDA. He

24:21

told her, ask the doctor that I sent

24:24

you to still for unnamed purposes. I don't

24:26

know what the fuck was going on. Ask

24:29

the celebrity doctor for an attorney

24:31

referral. So

24:33

he's telling her to ask the

24:35

doctor that he set her

24:38

up with or has been sending her to

24:40

to find an attorney to do the NDA.

24:42

What did you take celebrity doctor as? That

24:44

the doctor is a celebrity or that it's

24:46

a doctor for celebrities? Well

24:49

it's capital C, capital D,

24:51

celebrity doctor. I have no

24:54

idea. Because it's great. I mean there's a

24:56

lot of famous people around Greenwich. That's why.

24:59

Well maybe it's a doctor that celebrities go to.

25:01

I don't know. But I mean

25:03

they've got documentation just right here without even having

25:05

an adding

25:08

machine. He gave her like 250,000. How

25:11

much is a BMW these days? It

25:13

depends on the model. Well he gave her

25:16

like $250,000 worth of shit and diamonds and but

25:18

$20,000 to medical expenses whatever

25:25

but then that's

25:27

when they started just bringing her to the office

25:29

and locking her in an office somewhere. And

25:32

how the fuck do you get away with that? I

25:35

mean what she describes in the complaint. I

25:38

felt self-conscious when I brought a bag of

25:40

McDonald's in and closed the door when I

25:42

ate my office. I mean she described the

25:44

rape room. She described the fact that she

25:46

was saying no please stop and either

25:48

Laura Duyter or Vince was saying no

25:50

means yes while

25:52

business was happening. There

25:55

was a rape room that they

25:57

were using while biz and then they I guess

25:59

leave the the room and just go do whatever and

26:01

come back. That's insane. How

26:03

does... I mean, we could talk more about Vince than

26:06

we're going to. John Lauranitis.

26:10

I mean, the fact this was happening when

26:12

his wife was undergoing

26:14

cancer treatment, the fact

26:16

that when his wife moved to Connecticut it didn't

26:18

stop, it continued, but now it had

26:20

to be in the office. How

26:24

does that... How do you bring

26:26

that up in the fucking conversation?

26:28

Johnny, enough about the finishes for the pay-per-view.

26:30

What... I... Well,

26:34

let me ask you this and we'll get back to

26:37

it. And again, just to reiterate to everyone, they

26:39

should read this complaint. The video

26:41

that we put up was our live

26:43

reaction in real time to all these

26:45

people. People yelled at me and Brian

26:47

because we were laughing because of the

26:49

preposterosity of it. But with

26:51

more details, no, it is not what... Again,

26:54

most people have thought that one of these

26:56

situations would be this is... And

26:59

again, the time and

27:01

effort that Vince McMahon,

27:03

a 75-year-old billionaire, put

27:06

into doing this and how could

27:08

he physically... It's got to be

27:10

drugs, doesn't it? Artificial hormone

27:14

at almost 80 years old, how

27:16

could he be physically up to...

27:19

I'm not talking about them, just

27:21

the actual... Well, I am talking about that,

27:23

but also just goddamn... He

27:25

was still running a fucking billion-dollar

27:27

company and he's putting this much time

27:29

into this and effort into this. And

27:33

again, who are these other depraved

27:35

individuals? This isn't just,

27:37

let's have an affair. This is depraved

27:40

fucking shit. Who's this physical

27:42

therapist that went along with all this?

27:45

Yes. And Larynitis, again, this isn't

27:47

just he was cheating on himself. I

27:50

hate to say anything, but I know

27:53

Vince has a personal trainer. Would personal

27:55

trainer be physical therapist or

27:58

we probably don't want to... We don't know anything. making

28:00

any accusations. Let's not assume there but... Would

28:03

you assume? Well, here's another

28:06

thing that comes up in this. But how

28:08

do this mean people find each other in

28:10

the same fucking place? Yeah,

28:14

and again, it makes you wonder a lot about

28:17

things in the past. Things

28:19

that inexplicably got on TV. I was thinking about

28:21

something and it's the stupidest example but I think

28:24

it was when Kurt Angle was feuding with Booker T

28:26

and he was supposed to be interested

28:28

in Charmel. I think that's what it was and they

28:31

gave him a line to say on TV that he's

28:33

into bestiality. Like, these

28:35

weird things that got on WWE TV over

28:37

the years. If

28:39

new things had a childish sense of humor, turns

28:42

out it may have been

28:44

beyond just thinking things that

28:46

are stupid or funny, he had

28:48

a completely perverted sense of humor. A perverted

28:50

may not even be strong enough. Just... I

28:53

mean, this is deviant shit he's into. I

28:56

think the... How many

28:59

other people did he do this to? The

29:02

pooping aside, it seems

29:05

and to be honest, doesn't

29:10

he go against stereotype?

29:12

Like is it people in

29:16

high positions of power usually

29:18

want to be submissive in

29:20

their personal life? Whereas

29:23

he's been about as big of the boss as you

29:25

could possibly be for the past

29:27

40 years and this

29:29

whole thing is about controlling

29:31

everybody's power and telling people

29:34

what to do and forcing

29:36

your will upon someone. Because

29:40

Vince doesn't do good unless he's that guy in the room.

29:43

He can never be submissive. He would never

29:46

allow himself to. He can't turn it off,

29:48

can he? Again,

29:51

I'm just... It's

29:54

like when somebody that...

29:56

You know what, again, I wasn't

29:58

at Vince's Christmas parties. But

30:02

somebody that you think is okay, we

30:05

know he's crazy in his own various

30:07

ways, and then you

30:09

find out that he thinks like

30:11

Charles Manson. It's

30:13

a... And again, people should read

30:15

the complaint because Vince's text messages are in

30:17

the complaint. It has her

30:19

timeline of events and it

30:21

has the actual text messages that you could see what

30:25

she was going through, what was coming

30:27

to her phone. You're sitting at your desk,

30:29

you're sitting at home, whatever it is, and all of a sudden, these things

30:32

start popping up on your phone. It's... It's

30:35

a... I can't... Well, yeah. And

30:38

he was forcing her to do shit

30:40

after she had signed the NDA. Well...

30:45

After she signed the NDA, he still was

30:47

forcing her to do shit. He's

30:51

completely insane. And

30:54

then the stuff with what in

30:56

the complaint is said to be a

30:58

former UFC champion, everyone's assuming the

31:00

articles out there are all talking about Brock Lesnar,

31:04

the idea that he

31:06

was telling her that her sex with that

31:08

wrestler was a part of the deal, that

31:12

she had to submit to whatever perverted

31:15

videos or anything the person wanted, and

31:17

allegedly he wanted a P-video of

31:19

her just urinating. But

31:22

yeah, she has the text message

31:24

of Vince saying that, yes, you're

31:26

a part of the deal. Just

31:29

flat out declarative statement. See,

31:31

that makes you wonder too, Vince's relationships with top

31:33

guys, is there anyone else he had some kind

31:36

of weird relationship with? This is true. And...

31:39

She's telling Brock, by the way, you got to do

31:41

this. Here are the photos. Look on my phone, this

31:43

is the girl. Just text her and

31:46

she'll do whatever you want. And then he tells her she asked to.

31:49

Was this a tactic Vince used for anyone else?

31:52

You know, here again, well, can you imagine

31:56

Bret Hart being involved in anything like this?

32:00

Oh, Jesus Christ. I could say I

32:02

would have got over like a fucking lead balloon.

32:04

No, but the idea was Shawn. Back

32:07

in the, back in the old days, there was rumors about

32:09

why did he put up with this, it was Shawn or

32:12

with anybody that was supposed

32:14

to be his favorite with the ultimate

32:16

warrior. No, there was not that dynamic.

32:18

I'm just telling you. It

32:20

just, and, and, and again, obviously

32:24

this didn't take long to fucking come

32:26

out and blow up. And

32:29

this is more than rumors. There

32:32

was a lot of jealous guys

32:34

coming up with fucking reasons to

32:36

justify their positions in those days.

32:38

This is text

32:40

messages written down and things going to

32:42

court. And they

32:44

were requesting a jury trial and

32:47

there's no jury in the world that's going to hear these

32:49

details as laid out here. I don't care who just defend

32:51

him. How is he going to

32:53

fight against all this stuff? It's in writing. Is

32:55

he going to say, I thought she was into it. Is

32:58

he going to say, I didn't think there were any problems. I

33:01

mean, that's just anything with

33:03

her and him, let alone anything. He did a

33:05

legal in his capacity to the

33:07

shareholders, to the company and

33:10

everything else, because it was on company property. Well,

33:12

the company employee of a publicly traded

33:14

company. She's, she's

33:17

worse off personally now than

33:19

she was before because when

33:23

he meets her, she's, as we said, she's

33:25

upset. She, her parents have passed with all

33:28

the problems that she had, but

33:30

now she's not been able

33:32

to hold a job because she's afraid to leave

33:34

her apartment. She got a job managing her building

33:37

and couldn't leave her apartment to manage her own

33:39

building. And she's got all

33:42

kinds of after effects from all of this shit.

33:44

And again, we don't

33:46

know how old she is for sure, but

33:48

I am leaning toward that she was in

33:50

her early twenties based on the picture that

33:53

we've seen and other

33:55

things that we've heard and that she had had

33:57

no employment history. She had. had

34:00

to be a young person and

34:02

there's some newspapers that reported her as being

34:05

older, but that

34:07

brings up, this is only one of

34:09

the payoffs. So who

34:11

else is she maybe getting confused

34:13

with or vice versa and

34:17

what were the higher fucking payoffs

34:19

for than possibly than this? See,

34:22

that's where it gets crazy and some of the other

34:24

payoffs apparently for talent. It's

34:26

one thing and this is all inexcusable

34:29

and awful and Vince should burn

34:31

for it, but it's

34:33

one thing with someone in your building

34:35

that you bring into your office, this

34:38

is a wrestling company. If

34:40

he was doing anything similar to this, to

34:43

any of the female talent, that's a

34:45

whole nother story because talent

34:49

talk to talent and talent's supposed to look

34:51

after each other and at

34:55

this point you can't assume that Vince wasn't doing

34:57

awful shit with other people if he was paying

34:59

them millions of dollars hoping that

35:02

it would ensure their silence

35:04

forever and how many other people did he stop

35:06

paying because we said that before.

35:08

He did it to this woman, he

35:11

also did it to wrestling promoters. He's done this to

35:13

other people where he makes a deal and he just

35:15

decides, I've had enough of that deal, I'm going

35:18

to do something else. He figures out some

35:20

way that they broke it first. The

35:25

cover story on Calgary was that did

35:27

Bruce Hart run a spot show at a

35:30

fair somewhere? Yeah. Whatever.

35:33

But that's again,

35:37

the problem becomes not

35:39

only the payments

35:41

or whatever, but I can tell you that

35:43

with talent, no.

35:47

I'm not saying that nothing ever happened with

35:49

talent because there wouldn't be

35:51

an agreement etc. and we think that

35:53

there's probably something that's happened with the

35:56

talent or two, but no

35:59

way that it would. to this extent

36:01

or in the flavor of what

36:03

this was with this young lady

36:06

because again, no way

36:08

it could have been kept quiet. Hey,

36:10

listen. Because the girls in the locker

36:12

room would share shit. No,

36:16

they'd be scared that they're going to get sued by Vince

36:18

and Jerry McDivitt also. I think that's why a lot of

36:20

people have been quiet for a long time. It's like the

36:22

Colin Thompson thing. He wanted us to shut up. He right

36:24

away started threatening lawsuits for tens of millions

36:26

of dollars. We call this bluff. It's not that easy to

36:28

call the bluff of someone who you know will just go

36:30

as far as they can because they have more money than

36:32

you. And it

36:34

has to be an uneasy thing. There are stories

36:37

I could say, there's a story I've heard and

36:39

I'm not going to give too many details here because it's not my

36:41

story. Although enough people know

36:44

it because the first person I heard tell

36:46

the story I think told lots of other people the story.

36:49

And another person who's told the story was on

36:51

the plane. But about Vince having one

36:53

of the women perform for him

36:55

on the plane in front of the writers. And

36:58

other people. And this was someone who ended

37:01

up having a lot of problems. That's

37:03

what he's doing publicly. If

37:05

he's doing that in front of people that are

37:08

his employees, he's doing that publicly. We don't know

37:10

what he was doing privately. We don't know how

37:12

crazy he is. This whole thing

37:14

makes you rethink the Rita Chatterton story. Where

37:18

he pulled her into his limo, promised

37:20

her the world, demanded

37:23

a blowjob, and then just decided I've had enough,

37:25

I'm going to take you according to what she

37:27

said. And then threw her out of the limo. And

37:30

then got rid of her. And then tried to get

37:32

the athletic commission, I think, not to use her. I

37:35

mean, Vince has a pattern. And if

37:37

you read the details of the Rita Chatterton case,

37:41

it's the same guy. It's

37:43

not like this is... What's happening

37:45

here in 2021 or whatever, the 2019 to 2021 to currently, I

37:47

guess, seems like

37:52

the same guy that was accused of doing those

37:54

things in the late 80s. The

37:57

problem becomes now that... that,

38:01

well, I guess we we've jumped ahead

38:03

over kind of the lead. Vince is

38:05

gone. Um, he

38:08

resigned. Well, how many things

38:11

did he resign from the

38:14

executive chairman of TKO? And

38:18

was he on a board of some, did he sell

38:20

all this share? And he's the chair. He was the

38:22

executive chairman of the board. I

38:24

don't, well, I don't think you can just sell

38:26

that many shares. Just like, just sell everything right

38:29

now. They, doesn't that, that takes a while to

38:31

gather up and liquidate, right?

38:33

But he's officially not holding

38:36

any position of, you know,

38:39

of, of, of not only of employment,

38:42

but of the ceremonially on boards or

38:44

in any way with the company. Because

38:47

as soon as this, what was it like? Maybe

38:50

four hours later after the news came

38:53

out of the lawsuit, Slim

38:55

Jim said, uh, we are deciding to

38:57

pause our promotional activity

38:59

for the Royal Rumble the following day. And

39:02

you know, that had to be some fucking

39:04

money because it's the number two pay-per-view and they

39:06

were the big title sponsors

39:08

and what was

39:11

it? Was it a half hour after that we

39:13

got the news of Vince's resignation. Yeah.

39:16

I mean, it's very interesting how

39:19

that happened the day

39:21

before the Wall Street Journal

39:23

article was published. The complaint started going around a

39:25

little bit after that. Other

39:27

news organizations started picking

39:29

up the story. CNN was running with it all day.

39:31

I saw it on CNBC as well. Vince

39:35

put out a statement or

39:37

his side did saying that it was all

39:39

false and he was going to vigorously defend himself.

39:41

And well, it was all either

39:44

false or distorted truths. There

39:48

was that caveat in there. Alternative facts.

39:50

Yeah, I got it. Alternative facts. But

39:53

then TKO put out a statement and it

39:55

was kind of the opposite tone. Vince McMahon

39:57

is not in charge here. running

40:00

anything and then

40:03

as soon as the first sponsor and

40:05

it's a big one they just announced I think over the

40:07

summer like the biggest sponsorship deal

40:09

ever with Slim Jim when

40:12

they announced they were pausing it they

40:14

did not wait Vince was gone right away

40:16

and at this point how

40:18

could Vince have any friends

40:20

on that board or maybe friends is not worth

40:22

anyone who's sympathetic to him being there it's

40:25

now a complete liability for him that anything to

40:27

do with the company you have to wonder if

40:29

the name man can be used anymore for this

40:31

company well and and that's

40:33

they had to know as soon as that

40:35

news came out they

40:38

already had to be talking because it was

40:41

going to be a waterfall of sponsors

40:43

dropping out if they hadn't made an

40:45

announcement and if they you know hadn't

40:48

nipped it in the bud so as

40:50

soon as that news came out I'm sure they were whoever

40:53

needed to talk to whoever was talking to

40:55

him and they

40:57

probably said well let's see if anything happened that

41:00

boom something happened and there you go but then

41:03

they would have cost him a fortune and

41:06

and like you said I think you

41:09

know it might be good if Stephanie

41:12

came back Stephanie

41:14

might be the McMahon that well

41:17

but think about this

41:20

in hindsight she

41:23

has dodged Vince every every chance

41:25

she could for the last two

41:27

years right she left then

41:29

all of a sudden he had to leave so

41:31

she came back and when he came back she

41:33

left again and

41:36

was was Triple

41:38

H did he not at one point

41:41

vote that maybe Vince shouldn't come back

41:43

Vince Stephanie and Nick Khan all three

41:45

of them voted for him not to

41:47

return Vince had the power to override

41:49

everyone yeah

41:51

well but so maybe

41:55

she kind of was trying to do the

41:57

right thing or at least it wasn't doing

42:00

the wrong thing. She's in a tough position, Triple H,

42:02

and we could talk later on about what he said

42:04

during the Royal Rumble press conference or what he didn't

42:06

say or how he tried to address this or didn't

42:09

address it however you see it. Stephanie

42:11

went on TV, if Stephanie...

42:13

and again we don't know who the unnamed executives

42:16

in the complaint are, but

42:18

if Stephanie is one of them or

42:20

if she as a member of the board was privy

42:22

to the investigation of what its contents

42:24

were and if the investigation showed

42:27

any of this, and

42:29

we don't know if it did because if they didn't speak to Janelle

42:31

Grant or her attorney, it's

42:34

kind of like the AEW investigation. It didn't speak to

42:36

Lucy. It's not a real

42:38

investigation then, but if

42:41

their investigation showed any of this stuff and

42:43

Stephanie knew about it and

42:46

as an act

42:48

that wasn't publicly known, did some

42:50

things behind the scenes including but

42:52

not limited to walking back and leaving, coming

42:54

back to help, leaving as soon as her

42:56

dad came back, she still

42:58

went on TV and led the audience in a thank-you

43:00

Vince chant. That's fucked

43:02

up. There

43:06

are stories and I'll say this because enough of them

43:08

are going around we could talk about it but we

43:10

don't know how true they are. There

43:13

are stories going around now that

43:16

one of the reasons or in part maybe

43:19

Shane McMahon had previously left WWE

43:21

going back almost 20

43:23

years because of issues

43:25

with his dad because of his dad's behavior and that Shane

43:27

wasn't like that and that Shane

43:30

didn't want to do those things, whatever those things

43:32

were at that time and

43:34

that Shane and

43:36

his dad because they were so

43:38

different personality wise, it's caused a lot

43:40

of issues and that's

43:42

why Shane wasn't really a part or privy to any of

43:44

this stuff you would think. Although he did come back to

43:47

the company, he wasn't an executive, he was just talent. Well

43:49

yeah and Shane is obviously

43:53

more different now than Vince. Shane had a

43:55

lot of similarities with Vince in that you

43:58

know the energy and the the

44:00

physical fitness, you know, fanaticism

44:03

and, you know, the

44:05

gung-ho business, blah, blah, blah, good stuff.

44:07

But I've said, Shane is a nice

44:09

guy and he's got a

44:12

nice wife and nice kids. And

44:15

I'm not sure. The

44:17

other explanation was also

44:19

very plausible that Shane realized he wasn't

44:21

going to be because I don't think

44:23

Shane's aptitude for the wrestling business was

44:26

off the charts. Shane knew he

44:28

wasn't going to be his dad in terms of running the

44:30

company and went off to do his own thing. That's

44:33

entirely plausible. I

44:36

think at that point, you

44:38

know, I'm not saying Shane might not have known

44:40

that, you know, Vince

44:42

was trying to, you

44:45

know, inappropriately integrate

44:47

himself with other women or

44:49

whatever, but I,

44:51

I can't believe that

44:54

Vince would have even tried to pitch any

44:57

of that to Shane. Could

45:00

you believe that if either of his

45:02

kids got wind of any of

45:05

his behavior? Again, the behavior isn't just cheating. I

45:07

can, I can, I can believe, I guess, if

45:09

I sit down him pitching this to Lauranitis because

45:11

he didn't give a shit. I

45:13

don't think Vince would have wanted to

45:15

disrupt his son's entire family life and

45:17

whatever the fuck. And go

45:19

ahead now and ask me what you were going to ask me. Well,

45:22

no, I mean, that kind of sums up a lot of

45:24

it, but the family stuff's interesting because Triple H is still

45:26

in charge and based on

45:28

the complaint, it appears

45:31

that people knew something was going on in that

45:33

office. They knew that Vince

45:35

had a girl on payroll for one

45:37

reason or another. Who knows

45:39

how much anyone knew? Well, who knows what Vince

45:41

shared with what people? Are we supposed to think

45:43

that John Lauranitis and his physical therapist, that

45:46

the two people he trusts the most in the world with

45:49

this kind of stuff? How did that door

45:51

open with him and Johnny Ace? Jeez.

45:54

So we don't know. And you know, you're talking about this

45:56

stuff with Brock. Is there anyone

45:58

else he's trying to impress? by

46:01

showing photos of someone who didn't

46:03

want their photos around there or talking about someone like

46:05

this. We don't know any of this. The

46:07

big thing is we don't know who knew what. The

46:10

complaint, as a lot of unnamed people, was

46:13

Kevin Dunn, who was, based

46:15

on everything everyone always said before this,

46:18

someone who was always there because of

46:20

his relationship with Vince, because

46:23

he knew how to work within Vince's

46:25

system, that he was maybe the second most powerful

46:27

person in the company at times. What

46:30

did he know? John Laurinitis was

46:32

involved in this. And

46:34

let me say one thing here about Kevin Dunn.

46:38

I'm not saying that he didn't know anything or did

46:40

know anything or whatever, and I could believe either story.

46:42

Probably I could believe more that he did know everything

46:44

and was, you know, he would

46:46

never betray Vince, but I can

46:49

pretty much guarantee you that he probably

46:51

was not involved. I don't – never

46:54

had long personal conversations with

46:56

Kevin Dunn, but I'm thinking he's

46:59

like a fucking person

47:01

who would live vicariously through stories,

47:04

if anything. And

47:06

also the timeline of events. I mean,

47:09

a lot of this takes place during the pandemic. Laurinitis

47:12

was all of a sudden made the head of talent

47:14

relations again in 2021, remember? No

47:17

one thought he would ever have that role again or that he should.

47:21

That was just based off things that people heard that wasn't

47:23

this. And all of

47:25

a sudden he was the head of talent relations again. That

47:27

was funny. Here's another thing

47:29

we should talk about. Let me pull up this tweet here.

47:33

Bruce Prichard all of a sudden returned to WWE a

47:35

few years back. Bruce

47:37

Prichard, who most people

47:39

didn't think would ever return to WWE because

47:42

there were forces outside of Vince who really didn't want

47:44

him there, who knew why

47:46

he would be there. And

47:48

also most people didn't think really had a function

47:50

in the modern wrestling business going

47:52

forward in the roles that he previously had.

47:55

Bruce all of a sudden got brought back. Let

47:58

me pull up this tweet. from yesterday,

48:00

the day of the Royal Rumble 1251

48:02

PM, out of

48:05

nowhere, Rhonda Rousey, who

48:07

left WWE several months back made an appearance for

48:10

AEW in Ring of Honor. Here's

48:12

what she wrote, Bruce Prichard

48:15

is basically Vince's avatar.

48:18

If he's still around, Vince still

48:20

has a hand in the business. Vince

48:23

was still running things through Bruce when he was

48:25

gone and gone as in quotes before.

48:30

And that is in line with everything we've

48:32

ever heard or at least I've heard. Well,

48:35

I can't argue with that as

48:38

far as, yes, obviously

48:42

Bruce is now Vince's

48:45

longest running confidant

48:47

now that Pat Patterson is gone and and

48:50

Laura Knightus was not there for nearly the

48:52

number of years Bruce was. And we talked

48:54

about the time Bruce

48:56

gets it and

48:58

what it is whatever Vince wants. Bruce

49:01

knows how to take

49:03

Vince's sometimes

49:06

cloudy instructions and disseminate it where Vince gets

49:08

what he wants. He's not saying it's going

49:11

to be good or bad or indifferent even,

49:13

but that's just the facts. And

49:15

Bruce is Vince's ears and Bruce is Vince's

49:18

eyes in a lot of cases. And so,

49:22

yes, but that

49:24

would be as far as business wise, as far

49:26

as the company, as far as the tan, a

49:28

lot of people, everybody

49:30

thinks I'm out of touch, but every time

49:32

I would actually go back and work with

49:34

some modern promotion over the last five or

49:36

ten years, they'd say, wow, he really helped me

49:39

a lot, but Bruce is so old-fashioned. But

49:44

the fact that this was an open secret

49:46

that Bruce was only there because he's doing

49:48

Vince's bidding, I mean, she's saying what

49:50

everyone knows. Well, yeah, but again, I'm

49:54

saying with having known Bruce

49:56

and known, he

49:59

may have known... something was going

50:01

on. And this is Bruce

50:03

Pritchard is a person who is

50:05

so fastidious. He brushes

50:08

his teeth with warm water. He

50:10

refuses to eat hotel

50:12

room service on the bed. Even if that's

50:14

the only place you can watch TV, he

50:17

won't eat in bed. He has to eat at a table. He's

50:20

scared of pickles. He

50:22

is revolved by pickles and

50:25

he's, he's not a germaphobe, but

50:27

he's a very fastidious person. And

50:31

also when they did the fucking Val

50:34

Venus and Jenna Jamison shoot

50:36

for raw in 1997 or

50:38

whatever it was that was in

50:41

the hot tub at Bruce Pritchard's house and

50:43

Bruce's wife, Stephanie wouldn't let him hear

50:45

the end of it because they let

50:47

a porn star in her bathtub. And

50:51

I just cannot believe that nobody

50:55

has said this, but I'm making

50:57

a preemptive strike. I can't believe

50:59

Bruce Pritchard being involved in any

51:02

of these various things, but

51:05

I can believe him covering

51:07

his ears and turning his head and

51:10

walking as far away from

51:12

the thing as possible to where he wouldn't know any

51:14

more than he had to know. I mean,

51:16

it's hard for me to believe that Vince McMahon, when all of

51:18

a sudden he's surrounding himself with

51:20

all this confidence, we all

51:22

thought it was just a power grab for the company. We

51:25

didn't realize all the other sick shit that was

51:27

happening with the same confidence, maybe not Bruce, maybe

51:30

not Kevin Dunn, but John Laurinitis was

51:33

there for a reason. Vince, again,

51:35

everything changed the last few years. Remember Vince

51:38

all of a sudden had his old gang back around them. And

51:41

this is what he was up to. And

51:43

it's just, it's in the office. I mean, that's

51:45

the other thing. There are unnamed executives who Janelle

51:48

Grant would walk past and they would treat her

51:50

bad or someone would treat

51:53

her good. But everyone was aware that there

51:56

was something with her and Vince. Yeah. She

51:58

was, she introduced herself to one. And they say,

52:00

oh, I know who you are. Oh,

52:03

and who is that? When I, is

52:05

that Stephanie? Is that Kevin Dunn? Who?

52:07

When I was there, when I was

52:09

there, it was the air of the

52:11

human resources department and they ran everything

52:14

and you could say boo to a

52:16

fucking goose. And,

52:18

and this is, you know, I'm reading,

52:20

I'm reading, I'm reading right now a book that you'll

52:22

be reading soon, the six pack by Brad Belucci. And

52:25

it's coming out pretty soon. And he talks about the

52:27

early days of WWF, how crazy it

52:29

was in the office in the eighties when

52:31

HR was Linda McMahon. And

52:34

beyond that, it was just a boys club in that

52:36

office. So again, it

52:38

may have been different while you were there

52:40

in the nineties, but you could certainly say

52:42

there was a weird, if not

52:45

at times completely toxic culture around

52:47

Vince and the, the

52:50

way he wanted things set up for himself.

52:53

But yeah, but now he's, he's

52:56

become, maybe

52:58

it's again, maybe a concussions,

53:00

Alzheimer's, the drugs, the

53:03

stare, whatever the fuck, but

53:06

in his seventies, he's become a

53:08

fucking teenager, but like

53:10

a teenager with like the

53:13

fucking twilight zone episode of, you

53:15

know, he's a teenager with

53:18

omnipotent power and he's wishing people into

53:20

the fucking cornfield. He's,

53:22

he's lost all element

53:26

of his reason or even

53:28

his risk reward

53:30

ratio, his just

53:32

willingness to leave himself open to this

53:35

shit that you would

53:37

have never thought the guy of 30 years

53:39

ago would do just be this stupid about

53:41

it. It's beyond evil. It's

53:44

flat out evil. And that's the thing too, beyond

53:46

wrestling. I could, I could believe Vince would be

53:48

evil more than I could believe he'd be this

53:50

fucking stupid. You know, beyond wrestling, if

53:52

you look at the history of entertainment

53:54

or just people of notoriety,

53:57

people who are celebrities or top executives.

54:00

No one goes out like this. This

54:03

is just extraordinary. It's one

54:05

thing going out and people hate you or going out and you

54:07

rip people off or you're evil. This

54:09

is as evil – I mean, this is

54:11

as evil a way to go out as

54:13

anyone ever. The last things we're

54:15

hearing about Vince are these completely

54:18

deviant stories. It's horror movie

54:20

shit. And it

54:22

wasn't even consensual deviance, which there's

54:24

nothing wrong with that. But

54:27

it was fucking torture,

54:29

psychological fucking – And

54:31

physical. But

54:34

I mean, psychological manipulation and

54:36

then fucking getting

54:38

this girl stuck in this situation

54:40

and doing whatever the fuck

54:42

and thinking you can get away with it. I'm

54:45

astonished. Yeah. And again,

54:48

there's no excusing Vince McMahon here. There's no

54:50

excusing John Laurinitis as physical therapist or anyone

54:52

else that was aware or involved in any

54:54

of this. And for

54:56

anyone who was bothered or

54:58

offended by my laughing at the

55:00

initial thing as it was coming out in real

55:02

time about Dildos named after wrestlers or the defecating

55:05

on the head, I'm sorry. We

55:07

chose to put up on YouTube a real-time

55:09

thing thinking the listeners would want to hear

55:11

how we discovered it. And

55:13

I'm sorry if anyone was offended by that, but that

55:15

was my real-time reaction to hearing this. And then I

55:17

read the complaint afterwards, and the Wall Street Journal article

55:19

did not do a great job of laying everything out

55:21

there. It's a serious thing, and

55:23

we're treating it as a serious thing. No, Ed, it's real. And

55:25

if anyone wants to clutch their pearls over

55:28

this with us, go fuck yourself. The

55:30

Wall Street Journal article was not

55:32

70 pages, which this

55:34

complaint is, but they also –

55:38

they skipped over a lot of the things that

55:40

people would naturally want to fucking know before

55:43

they assumed that it was all

55:45

a bunch of fucking hogwash. So

55:49

they led with head defecating and Dildos named

55:51

after wrestlers, and how are you going to

55:53

bring that back from parody? It's

55:56

just so crazy too because – I

56:00

don't know Vince, I never worked for Vince. I

56:02

just know him as the television guy

56:04

and for what I know about behind the scenes

56:06

in wrestling. But

56:09

when you read these text messages, it's

56:11

almost hard to envision him sitting there

56:14

writing them. I mean, it's not... It's

56:16

the same human being. And

56:20

I'm not even the depraved content

56:22

but just it sounds like the

56:25

fact this is some illiterate teenager

56:28

and not the... We

56:31

talked about... When we

56:33

talked about Vince's melting appearance, the

56:36

presence he used to have when he came

56:38

in a room, imagine and Aldous

56:41

may hate me for saying this but Nick

56:44

Aldous, but he wasn't as good looking, a

56:46

man is Nick Aldous. But when he came

56:48

in the room, six foot,

56:50

two or three or whatever with the big

56:53

shoulder jackets, the hair was perfect. He

56:56

carried himself like a fucking important

56:59

person. You knew when he'd walked in, you

57:01

stood up or sat up a little straighter,

57:04

cleared your throat or whatever, paid attention. He

57:07

commanded some attention

57:10

and some respect with his... But

57:14

this not

57:16

only in appearance now but in

57:19

action. And

57:21

like I said, I

57:23

said I never saw him write anything

57:25

but he didn't speak

57:27

or dictate like this fucking

57:30

dribble that you see in

57:32

this lawsuit. And again, they were asking

57:34

for a jury trial. We

57:37

know that... He's cooked. I

57:39

mean, the grand jury, whatever

57:41

happens here, he's done. And

57:44

I think about this quote he had years ago, I

57:46

remember him saying about when him... According

57:48

to him, he used to end the fights with his stepfather growing

57:50

up in the trailer. And

57:52

he would get the shit kicked out of him but his

57:54

attitude became, I lived,

57:57

so I won. That's his attitude as

57:59

long as... As long as I live, I win. And

58:02

I don't think he deserves a win on this. I'm not saying

58:04

kill Vince or anything, but he's got to serve time and he's

58:07

got to pay her. I don't want

58:09

to go into politics, but Donald Trump was just found to

58:12

have to... The amount of money he had to

58:14

pay the woman who won a trial saying that

58:16

she was raped. 80-something

58:18

million dollars, right? 80-something million dollars. This

58:22

woman has text messages. This woman

58:24

has details and dates. Of

58:27

multiple participants. And

58:32

what we've said before, we've talked

58:34

about Vince is a more

58:37

articulate Donald Trump

58:39

with better hair, but now it turns

58:41

out that fucking

58:43

Vince is worse than Trump. Vince

58:46

is Trump with concussions. Well,

58:51

I mean, again, this is... We can keep going

58:53

over it. This is one of the craziest stories

58:55

ever. This is maybe the craziest story in wrestling

58:57

history. This is one of those stories that if

58:59

things weren't going so well right now, it could almost kill

59:01

the business. It's

59:03

that big a deal. You

59:05

could write this as a movie and it might

59:07

be far-fetched. People would say,

59:10

oh, come on now. Nobody would ever

59:12

actually try to get away with something like

59:14

this. Before

59:17

we move on, any closing comments about all this?

59:19

Again, people have been talking about it. Some of

59:21

the people heard the YouTube clip or not exactly

59:23

pleased. You know, once again, God damn it.

59:27

I'm sorry when I hear in the Wall

59:29

Street Journal that of all

59:32

people, Vince McMahon, potential

59:34

germaphobe is goddamn being sued for

59:36

shitting on somebody's head. I couldn't

59:39

fucking compose myself after

59:41

that. And there was no way and

59:44

nothing has been reported to

59:46

the present time that this

59:48

came out that anybody would think

59:50

that anything like this had

59:53

been going on. So

59:55

yes, if anybody's mad at me, I'm sorry. I'm

59:57

not going to fucking make fun of

59:59

it. after we know the

1:00:01

details, but good

1:00:03

lord. What, how the fuck do we expect

1:00:05

that to come at us on a fucking

1:00:07

weekday afternoon to begin with? So

1:00:10

I do apologize. And you kind of hit on what the next

1:00:12

big issue is going to be. Who knew what and when. And

1:00:15

what were the higher payoffs for with other

1:00:17

people for how can, if what can be

1:00:19

any worse? How many women have an answer

1:00:21

payoffs? Those are just the women who have

1:00:24

asked for payoffs or payoffs were offered to

1:00:26

them. Are we

1:00:28

to believe those are the only women out there? And

1:00:30

if there was a lot of, if

1:00:33

there was any doubt and nobody really doubted

1:00:35

it, cause you kind of see Vince doing

1:00:37

it the way it was described, trying to

1:00:39

grope the tanning salon lady or the, some

1:00:43

of the other minor incidents

1:00:45

as it turned out now, comparatively,

1:00:47

uh, yeah, those

1:00:51

are pretty much proven too, I guess, at this point. There

1:00:55

are very few bad stories about Vince that

1:00:57

you could think about right now and not

1:00:59

find a way to really

1:01:01

believe. I mean, that it works. Like I said,

1:01:03

the Rita Chatterton story, if you go get the

1:01:05

details and then you hear, you go read the

1:01:07

complaint from, uh, from this thing, it's

1:01:10

the same guy. It just, it seems like the

1:01:12

same guy. There's always been questions about the

1:01:15

dark side of Vince, whether it was the

1:01:18

mysterious suitcase into the police with Jimmy Snooka

1:01:21

that Snooka told everyone about and

1:01:24

that we don't know anything about or any of

1:01:27

the things with women or any of the things with

1:01:29

the divas when that was a thing. And again,

1:01:31

all of a sudden on TV, he became

1:01:33

a different guy and it wasn't just Mr.

1:01:35

McMahon, the boss, it was Mr. McMahon has

1:01:38

women all over him. Mr. McMahon has

1:01:41

a thing with different divas, like

1:01:43

the genetic jackhammer. Yeah. You

1:01:45

have to, now you have to really wonder and

1:01:48

you were out of there for all of that.

1:01:50

I mean, you were gone. Yeah, wasn't even there,

1:01:52

ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. So, I mean, you have

1:01:54

to wonder what was happening. That you

1:01:56

could argue that Vince may not be the same Vince you knew in

1:01:58

1996. Now,

1:02:02

you know, you get a

1:02:05

billion dollars and I

1:02:07

still maintain concussions, multiple concussions

1:02:09

late in life, a

1:02:12

billion dollars to a megalomaniac

1:02:15

to begin with and never thought the

1:02:17

rules applied. We've talked about how Vince

1:02:20

never thought rules applied to him in benign

1:02:23

ways or humorous ways or

1:02:26

ways that made a good story. If

1:02:30

I run off, leave the cop trying to give you

1:02:32

a ticket or telling the fucking rental car people that

1:02:34

the fucking car is sitting on the goddamn curb

1:02:36

at the airport or whatever. But

1:02:39

this is drugs, brain

1:02:41

damage, age and deep

1:02:45

dark shit in

1:02:47

his head that he suddenly felt, well, fuck,

1:02:49

I can do anything I want. I'm

1:02:52

publicly traded. By

1:02:54

the way, John Laurinitis

1:02:56

is the motherfucker that said to

1:02:58

me, Jim Cornette, don't you cuss

1:03:00

out those wrestling trainees. We're a

1:03:02

publicly traded company. We'll get in

1:03:05

trouble. Well, fuck you, John. Yeah,

1:03:08

it is interesting because we don't know how far

1:03:10

back his perverted activity goes too. The

1:03:15

dynamic dudes were not noted

1:03:17

for their perversion back in

1:03:19

the day. Well,

1:03:21

this is certainly one of the craziest stories

1:03:23

ever and there'll be a lot more coming

1:03:26

out from this. We could certainly say that and we'll stand

1:03:29

top of it. We may have Steven P. Newan at some point to

1:03:31

talk about some of this. Yes, because

1:03:33

there are some legal ways that not only Vince

1:03:35

fucked up here as a person, but

1:03:40

the WWE as a corporation fucked

1:03:42

up, which doesn't usually happen. Maybe

1:03:45

because this was done under the table and

1:03:47

it had to be kept in a small

1:03:49

circle because they handled it wrong and then

1:03:52

Steven has ideas on how PKO, if

1:03:54

they knew anything, might have handled

1:03:57

this a little bit better retroactively. But

1:04:00

if they got his phones or his electronics

1:04:02

when they did the search warrant, again,

1:04:06

this is what he was texting her and

1:04:08

it's disgusting and awful and he thought she was

1:04:11

cool with it. What was he

1:04:13

texting Laurinitis? And what was he texting

1:04:15

that physical therapist? Because that's going

1:04:17

to be a big part of the story. It's not just what he

1:04:19

said to the victim. It's

1:04:21

what he said to the other people participating in the

1:04:23

activities with him. I can't imagine

1:04:26

how... I

1:04:28

mean, it's not even about coming back at this point

1:04:30

but... He won't live long enough to fucking show his

1:04:32

face in public again, will he? I

1:04:35

mean, all those things, all of a sudden he changed his

1:04:37

face? I mean, there's so many weird

1:04:39

things... Whichever face he's wanting to show in public, I

1:04:42

don't think he'll live long enough at this point to

1:04:44

be able to do it without having

1:04:47

rocks thrown at him. Yeah,

1:04:49

he's really become the all-time villain. It's

1:04:51

a... Because before he

1:04:54

came back, I'll say this and then we'll

1:04:56

actually move on to something involving wrestling. Before

1:05:00

when he came back or when he retired,

1:05:02

remember he got the farewell

1:05:05

on TV, they came out and people gave

1:05:08

him a round of applause and big cheers

1:05:10

even though bad publicity because he was Vince

1:05:12

and he gave them their wrestling. Well,

1:05:15

I don't think they'll think that way anymore.

1:05:17

I think they'll think he's Vince

1:05:20

and he tried to take a big shit

1:05:22

on their wrestling. Yeah, think about

1:05:24

that moment now in retrospect. That

1:05:26

it wasn't just, all right, I'm off the board,

1:05:28

let me come by and say goodbye. That

1:05:30

was the board knows about all this nasty shit I've

1:05:32

been doing but I'm going to

1:05:34

still go out there and shove it in everyone's face and

1:05:37

say welcome to SmackDown. Yeah, and show them

1:05:39

how much that the fans love me. He

1:05:43

ain't got it if he lives to be

1:05:45

his mother's age. He won't live long enough,

1:05:47

I don't think, to go out in public

1:05:49

again and not get fucking hooted

1:05:51

at. All those wrestlers that went into the Hall of

1:05:53

Fame should be happy that they were always told never

1:05:55

to thank Vince. That's

1:06:00

an interesting thing. I mean just what a maniac this

1:06:02

guy was and it's all about him and all about

1:06:04

power and Domination and you

1:06:07

didn't want anyone thanking him But

1:06:10

he also wanted everybody to know that he

1:06:12

wanted everybody not to thank you. Yeah, that's

1:06:14

right. See what I'm saying. Yeah Because

1:06:18

that's even a bit that's even better than

1:06:20

everybody thanking him He's like I

1:06:22

know you owe everything to me, but it'll make

1:06:24

a rotten television program But that's the same thing

1:06:26

everybody says yeah There's a curvy enthusiasm episode where

1:06:29

they go to an art gallery and there's a

1:06:31

wall that's been dedicated by Anonymous and

1:06:33

as soon as Larry David Jesse has someone's like anonymous

1:06:35

is Ted Danson Everyone knew was

1:06:38

Ted Danson and Ted Danson knew that

1:06:40

it would look really good if he made it anonymous

1:06:42

instead of Ted Danson Same thing, but

1:06:45

like you said we've discussed this Endlessly

1:06:48

here and I'm sure we will be discussing

1:06:50

it more in the future Well, as soon

1:06:52

as somebody else talks about something, but in

1:06:55

the meantime before we get into the Programs

1:06:58

real quick. I

1:07:00

was gonna say because we had so much going on on

1:07:02

this show I was gonna save emails for next week. I've

1:07:04

seen a few not a ton,

1:07:07

but this one got to me this

1:07:09

came in Last week as

1:07:11

it was anyway, I didn't want to wait too much longer,

1:07:13

but It's

1:07:15

from Christina won't give her last name But

1:07:18

she says my fiance Jonathan John Was

1:07:22

one of your biggest fans from Bartlesville, Oklahoma

1:07:25

He had triple bypass heart surgery on

1:07:27

December 28th and on January 11th. He

1:07:29

passed away He was only

1:07:31

40 his heart was not

1:07:33

able to handle the surgery We

1:07:36

listen to your podcast together on repeat. It was

1:07:38

one of our favorite things to do when we

1:07:40

were together My heart

1:07:42

aches for him. We were together for eight years

1:07:44

and we're going to get married on October

1:07:48

1st and She

1:07:50

asked if we could have a

1:07:52

moment of recognition for John You

1:07:56

know on the show and and that just yeah,

1:07:59

you know it makes me feel so

1:08:02

bad when something like this happens.

1:08:04

When I would imagine that Jonathan

1:08:06

is probably the one that got Christina

1:08:08

into our shows and you

1:08:10

know, but they were able to do something together

1:08:12

and then something like that happens. He was only

1:08:14

40. So Christina, we're sorry for your loss. Yeah,

1:08:16

very sorry, Christina. But

1:08:19

on a more positive

1:08:21

note, uh, Michelle and Andrew,

1:08:23

who, uh,

1:08:26

we wished them well on their engagement

1:08:28

back in, oh, in

1:08:30

November, 2022. And

1:08:34

finally they got married on July 21st last

1:08:36

year. And

1:08:38

they just now sent me a picture. I

1:08:40

don't know what took eight months, but nevertheless,

1:08:43

they were, they were, uh, driven

1:08:46

to do this, reminded to do this because

1:08:49

when we were reading, uh, Russo's pitch

1:08:51

to direct TV, they got a special

1:08:55

fucking, uh, tickle out of that and

1:08:57

realized they need to send their wedding

1:08:59

picture, but anyway, congratulations guys, Michelle and

1:09:01

Andrew. Oh,

1:09:04

good Lord. All right. Real quickly. I don't

1:09:06

want to be too commercial at this time

1:09:08

of rumble season,

1:09:11

but I just want to

1:09:13

make sure that everybody knew that the

1:09:15

pictures are up, the information is up

1:09:17

and the midnight express 40th

1:09:19

anniversary part two, the final chapter

1:09:22

will be in full swing very

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shortly with action figure tag team

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your favorite combination, the midnight express Eaton

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and Condrey or Eaton and

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1:09:35

and Tom Pritchard under

1:09:37

a thousand sets of the

1:09:40

midnight combos and 500

1:09:43

of the heavenly bodies, the tag team

1:09:45

sets, and as we

1:09:48

mentioned, and Brian, I will say now all

1:09:50

the more, none of these will be remade

1:09:52

or others produced in the future because

1:09:55

after this year and I mentioned one more cornet

1:09:57

variant where we're going to get out of the

1:09:59

action. business because we're planning two and

1:10:01

three years ahead of time and I'm starting to

1:10:03

run out the clock. And

1:10:06

to be honest, with

1:10:08

the way everything else is going in the world,

1:10:11

I'm not sure that there'll

1:10:13

be a wrestling business in two or three

1:10:15

years anymore. But

1:10:18

nevertheless, the celebration for the midnight anniversary, we wanted

1:10:20

to go out with a bang and make sure

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that these guys had the action

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figures that they deserve before we close

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what you get of all the surviving

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members of our teams. And

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there's some packages also with books

1:10:43

and again, less than 50

1:10:46

of the autographed pictures, the last ones that we

1:10:48

had that Bobby signed before he passed away. So

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go right now to jimcornett.com and you can see

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and they started only $99.95 for

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the people who couldn't afford the four pack.

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And here's a heads up.

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the books, the DVDs or

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whatever. Order before February

1:11:16

10th, because all these figures go on

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sale February 10th at noon Eastern. We're

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taking all the other merchandise down like we did

1:11:23

last time so that

1:11:25

we can get everybody because it's still, it's just

1:11:27

me and the feather bottoms folks. And

1:11:29

your orders will be locked in and everybody will get

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everything, but it's going to take us probably

1:11:35

another six or eight weeks to process everything. So

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we don't want to complicate the issues. So if

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you want non midnight express

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merchandise, get that before February 10th. It's going

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to be down for a little while. And

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otherwise than that, then you

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can have us forever

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immortalized on your office or

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display shelves in your rec

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room for our

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40th anniversary. and last

1:12:01

one. Brian,

1:12:03

I'm figuring out that

1:12:05

the less that I associate with

1:12:08

the general population and the more

1:12:10

that I look forward to my

1:12:12

retirement and slowing down and not

1:12:14

doing as many things, I

1:12:17

just want to read books and sit under the fucking

1:12:19

tree. Every time that

1:12:21

we get these more of these fucking

1:12:23

stories, I lose my faith in a

1:12:25

grand swath of humanity. I

1:12:29

don't know what to say about that. I mean, my

1:12:31

attitude has been this is a dirty business. You

1:12:34

got to be honest about it. But it's a

1:12:36

dirty world. But it's a dirty world, but this

1:12:38

has always been an especially dirty business. I don't

1:12:41

know anybody. You see, the other guy, the

1:12:43

guy the other day on the news, I'll say it

1:12:46

in a minute, he was arrested for the fucking human

1:12:48

hand in his pocket just walking

1:12:50

down the goddamn street. Was

1:12:53

it sticking out of his pocket? How did they get him? No,

1:12:55

remember I told you that, or was that the

1:12:58

show that Solomon was on? Do

1:13:00

you remember me telling you about that? I

1:13:02

don't, but you know, I forget these things.

1:13:05

It was on the news. They arrested a

1:13:07

guy for murder and they ended up

1:13:09

when they arrested him. He

1:13:11

had a dismembered fucking human hand

1:13:13

in his pocket. So

1:13:17

I don't trust anybody anymore. You never know who's got

1:13:19

one hand in their pocket and the other hand on

1:13:21

your fucking throat. Well,

1:13:23

that's a dirty business for you. All

1:13:26

right, but I've, it's a dirty, dirty world. It's

1:13:28

a dirty world. I choose

1:13:31

not to participate. If nominated, I will not

1:13:33

run. If elected, I will not serve. Well,

1:13:37

Brian, I guess what we ought to do before we

1:13:40

get ready to rumble is just

1:13:42

briefly go over. We got no,

1:13:44

no earth was moved. No new

1:13:46

ground was broken on smack down

1:13:48

on Friday night. What

1:13:50

was Friday night? The 26th, 26th, the 26th

1:13:52

of the month of January. No new brown

1:14:00

Brown was broken. None

1:14:02

at all. No new ground was broken. Don't

1:14:06

snicker at me. I'll slap you

1:14:08

for snickering. What ever happened to ground Strowman? Um,

1:14:11

that's a good question. What did

1:14:14

happen to the world's strongest

1:14:16

giant man with a

1:14:18

beard? Then you got hurt, but... Well,

1:14:21

God damn it. What

1:14:24

did they do? You know what? Arn

1:14:29

Anderson said the fucking big foley.

1:14:32

In 1989 in WCW,

1:14:34

after the Christmas break, Cactus had

1:14:36

gotten in a fucking car wreck

1:14:39

in, uh, Long Island, just,

1:14:41

you know, not on a

1:14:43

road trip, I don't think, just as he

1:14:45

was home, you know, visiting his family and

1:14:47

he missed a couple of shows. And

1:14:49

Arn had seen the fucking bumps

1:14:52

that he had taken and been able to get up

1:14:54

and walk back from and everything. So the first night

1:14:56

that Cactus got back, he's sitting

1:14:58

in a locker room, Arn said, you

1:15:00

had to take time off for a car wreck.

1:15:03

What'd you do? Run off the edge of the

1:15:05

Grand Canyon? Anyway,

1:15:08

so, uh, no new ground

1:15:10

was broken on SmackDown. Uh,

1:15:13

but it did set up more of the

1:15:16

various issues at the Rumble, but did

1:15:18

you know, let's talk about more aesthetic

1:15:21

things on this television show and just

1:15:23

observations rather than blow by blow. And

1:15:26

maybe that's not a good term to use anymore.

1:15:28

Play by play. The

1:15:31

opening, they got the main eventers walking

1:15:33

in the building while the announcers are

1:15:35

billboarding things. They go to the package

1:15:37

of last week's main event and the

1:15:39

angle, the editing is

1:15:41

top quality, but it just, it seems

1:15:43

like they're open to the show. They're

1:15:45

flowing better. It moves along. They're,

1:15:48

they're, you know, upgrading things in

1:15:51

terms of a tempo standpoint

1:15:53

than just giving us the arena

1:15:55

shot and hearing

1:15:57

the announcers and blast.

1:16:00

somebody's music plays and out they

1:16:02

come from the entrance way. They're

1:16:05

jazzing it up with the network look,

1:16:07

right? And...

1:16:09

New head of production. Well, that's

1:16:11

what I'm saying. Maybe that is again, we've

1:16:13

heard that maybe some more changes

1:16:16

will come to get it in more in

1:16:18

line. What are they saying? How are they

1:16:20

phrasing it with the an athletic presentation? Not

1:16:24

actually coming out and saying, yeah, you know,

1:16:26

like the UFC, but kind of what we've

1:16:28

been maybe hoping for. They're like wrestling. What

1:16:30

wrestling's supposed to be. Yeah,

1:16:33

well, imagine that. If

1:16:36

they could have that groundbreaking idea, then

1:16:38

we'd be all set. But and

1:16:40

it's Michael Cole and Corey Graves again because

1:16:42

poor old Kevin Patrick,

1:16:45

you know, maybe

1:16:47

he knew that he knew this

1:16:49

time was coming. That's why he couldn't catch his

1:16:51

breath. He was like hyperventilating

1:16:53

like, when are they gonna fire me? When are they gonna

1:16:55

fire me? When are you taking me? No,

1:16:59

Wade! Wade,

1:17:01

what do you mean? I thought I

1:17:03

could stay in this country. Corey, Corey,

1:17:05

help me. They're taking me away. Ha

1:17:08

ha, hee hee, ho ho. To the

1:17:10

funny phone. But thank

1:17:12

you, very good. So they

1:17:14

introduced a rapper. And

1:17:18

the rapper whose name I can't pronounce

1:17:20

or spell I've never heard of, obviously,

1:17:23

is, I don't know if it's my

1:17:25

demographic, but he

1:17:27

welcomed us to SmackDown and didn't do a

1:17:29

bad job. And apparently, is

1:17:31

he somebody? Oh, music guru.

1:17:34

You know, I had the open on mute, so

1:17:36

I saw him, but I'm not exactly sure who it was. But they

1:17:39

were in Miami, so I'm guessing it's someone who

1:17:41

really has the beat. Well

1:17:43

seen, but now you're starting to show your age

1:17:45

a little bit just that you don't know all

1:17:47

of these people from sight. Because I go based

1:17:49

on ear. You're talking music. I'm not like you,

1:17:51

a superficial music fan, I care about what the

1:17:53

people look like. I care about the sound and

1:17:55

the song. No, but yeah, what I'm saying, you

1:17:57

would recognize who this was if this was a

1:17:59

person. who you knew it was, who? This

1:18:02

was a person so talented in their

1:18:04

craft that their image doesn't matter. It's

1:18:06

about what's happening on the record. That's

1:18:10

what I'll say. Well, on

1:18:12

the record, for the record, what

1:18:14

was happening here was he welcomed

1:18:16

us to SmackDown and introduced Randy

1:18:18

Orton. And here

1:18:20

came Randy, and apparently Randy is in this

1:18:22

guy's music video. And

1:18:26

he has done some tribute

1:18:28

to the RKO or something. But anyway,

1:18:30

Orton cut a promo on the bloodline,

1:18:32

and he knows

1:18:35

what he sounds like. He means

1:18:37

what he says because he understands

1:18:39

the importance of either

1:18:41

doing in the ring or saying something

1:18:43

in a promo that sounds half-ass real

1:18:46

and convincing or just don't do that. So

1:18:50

he talks in a way that he can

1:18:52

talk and sound half-ass real and convincing. I

1:18:56

wonder where he learned

1:18:58

those type of things from. But

1:19:01

anyway, he of course

1:19:03

is vowing to beat

1:19:06

Roman Reigns at the Royal Rumble, and

1:19:08

he'll be a 15-time world champion. And

1:19:12

suddenly AJ's music plays, and he cuts the

1:19:14

pen. And here we go. I think

1:19:17

this is AJ's downfall

1:19:19

from being – when

1:19:21

it's Roman and it's Orton, and

1:19:24

right now it's LA Knight and

1:19:26

it's AJ, AJ's kind of fucking

1:19:28

Zeppo, isn't he? And

1:19:31

– Well, no, Zeppo became

1:19:33

a very successful talent manager. I don't think that's

1:19:35

AJ at all. Well, yeah, now

1:19:37

come on now. We don't know what he's

1:19:39

going to do later on. His wife left

1:19:41

him for Frank Sinatra. He's still – AJ's?

1:19:44

I know, Zeppo. Oh,

1:19:46

all right. Well, we don't know what

1:19:48

AJ's got a chance to do later on. He

1:19:51

could become a great agent or

1:19:53

potentially, you know, fuck Frank Sinatra's

1:19:55

wife. I don't know. There's

1:19:58

still time, I guess. I mean, there has to be someone out there. Mia

1:20:00

Farrow's out there. Well, there you

1:20:02

go. I knew that he had

1:20:04

at least one living ex-spousal

1:20:07

person. Yeah, because he married her when she

1:20:09

was 19. But anyway, go ahead.

1:20:11

Well, but that's legal. Point

1:20:14

out- He was like 55 years old, but go

1:20:16

ahead. Oh, let's not even get into this, goddamn

1:20:18

person. In

1:20:21

light of recent events, what I'm saying

1:20:23

to you is that AJ's phenomenal in

1:20:25

the ring, and he's better verbally

1:20:28

than he was in the

1:20:30

TNA days. But I think his

1:20:34

level of conviction and delivery and

1:20:36

just whatever is that I think

1:20:38

is his shortcoming.

1:20:43

But thankfully, LA

1:20:45

Knight's music played and he got

1:20:47

a big pop and he livened the thing

1:20:49

up and the crowd was chanting this shit.

1:20:52

And he cut a good promo on AJ. And

1:20:57

this is all about who's going

1:20:59

to be the one to dethrone Roman,

1:21:01

but LA Knight cut the fucking promo

1:21:03

and said, and that's a fact of

1:21:05

life. And he tossed the microphone

1:21:07

down and walked off on him. And

1:21:10

there's AJ and Orton with their mouths

1:21:12

open and suddenly AJ just flips upside

1:21:15

down and just sucker kicks Orton in

1:21:18

again and leaves him laying there and walks off.

1:21:22

So that's basically,

1:21:25

they wanted to cover that match. They wanted to

1:21:27

cover a couple of other things. On

1:21:30

SmackDown here, the matches were secondary,

1:21:32

even more so than usual,

1:21:34

I think. And maybe was this

1:21:38

a good fucking week for it anyway? Just

1:21:40

keep them talking so the

1:21:42

crowd doesn't start chanting amongst themselves.

1:21:46

I guess, I mean with this thing specifically, I

1:21:48

feel like the segments with the intrigue about who's

1:21:50

doing what to who here and Randy Orton getting

1:21:53

the moments where they just show him looking on, not

1:21:55

knowing what to do, but he doesn't really say

1:21:57

anything. It's a lot more interesting than

1:21:59

the ad. actual match. Yeah. Cause

1:22:02

then we, we got Escobar and Carlito

1:22:04

and remember a couple of

1:22:07

months ago, didn't we want to see this match

1:22:09

on pay-per-view when it was fresh

1:22:11

in our mind? We almost did. We

1:22:13

almost did. And

1:22:16

then suddenly we didn't. And then, and

1:22:18

now we did, but I, you know, I wanted

1:22:21

to see it and had time to watch it

1:22:23

then, but neither one applied this week. So

1:22:27

maybe did I miss anything or did you see this? I

1:22:29

watched some of it. I think Escobar is really good as a heel.

1:22:32

He's really, really, he was great as a baby face. You

1:22:34

totally believe him as like the best friend and now he's

1:22:36

really good as a heel. They just got to do something

1:22:38

interesting with him. Other than

1:22:40

just feuding with everyone he's been with for the

1:22:43

last couple of years. Yes. Or ever known potentially

1:22:46

in, in, in his previous life,

1:22:48

but, uh, a

1:22:50

big package on the jump to Netflix,

1:22:53

the rock at WWE HQ, the new

1:22:55

one, apparently they didn't have that high

1:22:57

ceilings and building I worked in, uh,

1:23:01

the, the big board announcement, the whole day.

1:23:03

This is, it's, it's

1:23:06

entertainment tonight. Wrestling

1:23:09

where you get the talking and you get the

1:23:11

packages on the big events. And then in the

1:23:13

middle, the matches are

1:23:15

the commercials. The only thing you don't

1:23:17

have is the hosting entertainment tonight. At least has like

1:23:20

host a pitch to different things and host different segments.

1:23:22

Here, it's just like anyone who has a microphone go. Am

1:23:26

I being led to believe that

1:23:28

the rocks daughter is now the

1:23:31

general manager of NXT? I

1:23:33

told you this would happen in terms of her being

1:23:36

all over TV. All of a sudden she's now the

1:23:38

general manager of NXT. She doesn't seem

1:23:40

to be that good a talker or particularly,

1:23:43

uh, intriguing as a character,

1:23:45

but all of a sudden she's in a role

1:23:48

that will have her on that

1:23:50

TV show more than anyone else on that

1:23:53

show, I would guess. Well, but I mean,

1:23:55

how, uh, I'm not even saying this in

1:23:57

a derogatory fashion. Well, how old is

1:23:59

she? How long has she been there?

1:24:01

Has she ever done television before?

1:24:03

What's, when

1:24:06

did this happen? I mean, I know I ain't been

1:24:08

watching NXT lately, but I thought I would have heard

1:24:10

about this more than a week ago. She's been there

1:24:12

for a while because we did a story a while

1:24:14

back about how they brought her in and immediately changed

1:24:16

her name to something else. Well, but

1:24:19

I know, but I'm talking, that's not the general,

1:24:21

I'm talking about how long she'd been general manager.

1:24:23

When did this, how did this last week? I

1:24:25

think, uh, from where, how did

1:24:27

she go from reporting for training duty to

1:24:29

she's the general manager of the mother fire.

1:24:31

We ain't heard shit in between. From

1:24:34

what I read cause I did not watch

1:24:36

NXT because despite how good people say it

1:24:38

is, every time I give it a chance, it runs me

1:24:40

off again. William Regal showed

1:24:42

up at NXT, the former

1:24:44

general manager and he went

1:24:47

backstage and he talked to her and said that she's the new

1:24:49

general manager. I

1:24:51

don't know much more than that.

1:24:53

Obviously well-qualified. She's

1:24:57

a, uh, seventh generation wrestler in some

1:24:59

way. I'm sure. She's

1:25:02

the great, great, great, great granddaughter. That wasn't

1:25:04

of Nef. My Ava. I don't know

1:25:06

what's going on. The great, great,

1:25:09

great daughter of the great one or,

1:25:12

but I just, I, how did they

1:25:14

present that? Has she even been on

1:25:16

their television? I

1:25:19

want to say that she's been doing something on their

1:25:21

show and it didn't light the

1:25:23

world on fire. So now they made her general

1:25:25

manager. She

1:25:28

had a stroke, so they made her head talent

1:25:30

relationship. Well,

1:25:36

that's a good place to go. So

1:25:38

you can recuperate

1:25:40

at a leisurely

1:25:42

pace. All right. Oscar

1:25:45

and Carrie wrestled the, or

1:25:49

wrestled for the tag team championship

1:25:51

or defended it against chance and

1:25:53

Carter. And

1:25:56

then we had a little vignette.

1:26:00

backstage with Heyman and Solo

1:26:02

and Uso where

1:26:05

Paul says, Hey, Solo, you solved the

1:26:07

problem but you didn't fix the problem.

1:26:09

Don't be merciful. And Solo takes off

1:26:12

and then Paul gets

1:26:14

up in Jimmy's ear and gives him

1:26:16

the big pitch to enter the Royal

1:26:18

Rumble and do this and that

1:26:20

and the other thing and beat Seth

1:26:22

Rollins. And

1:26:24

Heyman is captivating and brilliant

1:26:27

to listen to. So again,

1:26:29

I enjoyed hearing this little

1:26:31

soliloquy after that unfortunate

1:26:33

choice of a match they presented. But

1:26:38

then the string of soliloquy stopped,

1:26:40

Bryan, because the

1:26:43

in-ring with Lashley and the Street

1:26:45

Prophets calling out Karrion

1:26:47

Kross and what

1:26:50

is the... I haven't even remembered the

1:26:52

name of the un-intimidated ministers. What are

1:26:54

they? The Bear

1:26:56

Naked Ladies? The Final Testament. The

1:26:59

Final Testament. Apparently

1:27:04

it's a multi-parter. But

1:27:09

the Street Prophets go after the heels

1:27:11

and Scarlett jumps on Lashley and then

1:27:13

Kross stops him and the

1:27:16

heels are getting heat and they had to do

1:27:18

a... I don't even think

1:27:20

it was bringing up the microphones. I think it

1:27:22

was actual piping in of the booing because

1:27:25

you're looking at the people and they're like, sort

1:27:30

of like trying to tolerate that examination that the

1:27:32

doctor just has to give you but you didn't

1:27:34

really want to go through. How

1:27:38

is it that everything

1:27:40

that this Karrion Kross, this

1:27:42

guy and this beautiful girl get

1:27:45

involved in gets negative response? They

1:27:48

bring back the fucking cheers they

1:27:50

emitted in the previous segment. I

1:27:54

don't know. I can't explain any of this. I

1:27:56

mean even the faction. Paul

1:28:00

Ellering, what is Paul Ellering doing? Just

1:28:04

every now and then he gets on the mic, but then he doesn't even go to

1:28:06

the ring. He just stands in the back and the other guys are out there. And

1:28:10

the other guys. And the new T-shirt with

1:28:13

the cross, but you add another line to make

1:28:15

it an F for the final Testament. So

1:28:18

just the whole trying to make it some

1:28:20

kind of religious thing too. I don't know. I

1:28:22

don't know what the hell they're doing. Actually,

1:28:25

I thought that was one of those dramas

1:28:27

that they put at the end of the

1:28:29

sentence for a fucking footnote. But

1:28:32

nevertheless, we got the rematch between Austin

1:28:34

theory and Carmelo Hayes and neither one

1:28:36

of them got hurt. They actually got

1:28:39

to finish in. I

1:28:41

wondered why they started at a hundred miles

1:28:43

an hour because they were going so fast

1:28:46

that theory slipped and fell on a knee

1:28:48

lift, his own knee lift. And

1:28:51

then Carmelo Hayes fell on his ass

1:28:53

on a drop behind. But

1:28:55

then I realized they did all this shit in

1:28:57

less than two minutes before the break. And then

1:28:59

when they came back, they

1:29:02

had like 90 seconds before the fucking bell

1:29:04

and a couple

1:29:07

of big two counts and Hayes

1:29:10

nailed Waller and rolled up theory and theory

1:29:13

reversed it and hold the, held the fucking

1:29:15

tights. Boom. One, two, three. And

1:29:17

in the heels, jump right back on him

1:29:20

and suddenly music plays. And did

1:29:22

you see who it was? Brian. Do you remember who

1:29:24

it was? It was trick. It

1:29:27

was his friend trick. They've

1:29:30

been friends from way back when we used

1:29:32

to watch NXT and

1:29:34

he hit the ring and made a big comeback and

1:29:37

shit, canned all the heels. So they're,

1:29:39

they're fucking, uh, now they had a three

1:29:41

and a half minute match and they're at

1:29:44

an angle with Carmelo and a new guy

1:29:48

who made his debut. Yeah.

1:29:52

Any closing comments on that? No,

1:29:55

this Smackdown is just not that, uh, yeah.

1:29:59

Well, I mean, not even. over or under, just

1:30:01

not over or under. I'm not well. Well,

1:30:03

let's well you with the main event because that's

1:30:05

what we were all waiting for. LA

1:30:08

night and solo. And

1:30:12

you know, that's going to be a big

1:30:14

fucking, you know, main event match that they're

1:30:16

going to devote plenty of time to. So

1:30:19

immediately they get into a big fucking

1:30:22

schmoz and LA starts working on the

1:30:24

guys, you know, his thumb try

1:30:26

to nullify the spike and they, he smashes

1:30:28

it on everything and they go out to

1:30:31

the floor and solo

1:30:33

stops LA night with one blow and they

1:30:35

go to break in two minutes. I

1:30:38

mean, I've done that. Fuck. And

1:30:40

again, when they come back, you

1:30:43

know, they're minutes from going off the air,

1:30:45

but basically this isn't

1:30:47

just an angle for,

1:30:49

because they were, they didn't even use the

1:30:52

minutes that they had for, for match. A

1:30:54

little more heat and

1:30:57

LA night makes a comeback and the fans are

1:30:59

with him. They chant big, the fucking

1:31:02

yeah, heads on the desk. And then

1:31:06

suddenly you're watching LA night beat fucking

1:31:08

solo up. And from nowhere, AJ Styles

1:31:11

just fucking levels him and immediately the

1:31:13

bell rings. Deacon, nobody saw him coming.

1:31:16

Hey man, they must've dropped him in out of a

1:31:18

helicopter as heard would say. And

1:31:21

now he's beaten up LA night and

1:31:24

fucking runs him into the stairs and Uso

1:31:29

has a chair cause

1:31:31

he was in Solos corner, but he sets

1:31:33

it down and offers it to AJ. And

1:31:36

AJ slowly, now they've just completely slowed

1:31:39

it to a crawl, slowly gets the

1:31:41

chair and Solos like, yeah, hit him,

1:31:44

hit that no good LA night. And

1:31:47

so AJ beats up solo and Uso with

1:31:49

the chair. And then here comes Randy's music

1:31:52

and he hits the ring and he

1:31:54

nails Uso and AJ and drops Solos

1:31:57

on the desk and DDT's.

1:32:00

Uso and DDT's AJ

1:32:02

and RKO's AJ and

1:32:05

the crowd's ballistic for Randy. Wonder

1:32:07

why? Haven't

1:32:10

seen a fucking dominant campaign

1:32:12

like this in Sherman's March to

1:32:14

the sea. And

1:32:17

then, right as Randy's got the beauty

1:32:19

shot and his music is playing and

1:32:21

the announcers are pitching out to next

1:32:23

week. And

1:32:25

you thought, wow, that was

1:32:27

great. Boom, LA Knight comes up and gives

1:32:30

Orton the BFT and then they go off

1:32:32

the air. So

1:32:34

that was a nice little twist. But

1:32:37

I'm wondering, are they making as much

1:32:40

as I love Randy Orton, he's a star. He's

1:32:43

kicking his shit out of everybody. Are

1:32:45

they making him too invincible

1:32:48

when he's

1:32:50

just recovered from back surgery

1:32:53

and is maybe closer to

1:32:55

the end of his in-ring

1:32:57

career than he is obviously to the beginning.

1:32:59

And who are they going to

1:33:01

come up with? Can beat this fucking guy? Of

1:33:04

course, he looks great. What

1:33:07

do you think? I

1:33:10

mean, what do I think? Who's going to beat Randy Orton? Well,

1:33:13

I mean, if he is, he kind

1:33:16

of came in LA Knight with, I'm

1:33:18

not even talking about AJ, but we've

1:33:20

seen that LA Knight and

1:33:22

Cody Rhodes, now they've got CM Punk

1:33:25

and they've had a number

1:33:27

of new faces, new

1:33:29

were faces that

1:33:31

they've elevated. But Orton has come in and

1:33:33

so far, he's the one kicking his shit

1:33:35

out of everybody. Except in this

1:33:37

instance, yes, LA Knight got him from behind

1:33:39

with, goddamn, or

1:33:41

is he just running away with it because

1:33:44

he looks like a goddamn brick

1:33:46

wall and all his shit looks good when he

1:33:48

drops people on her fucking face. Yeah,

1:33:52

but LA Knight's still the most over of

1:33:55

the three. I don't know from,

1:33:58

Randy's got the He's got

1:34:00

the icon pop and the main

1:34:02

event pop and also the sympathy

1:34:04

pop from coming back from a

1:34:07

serious surgery. So

1:34:09

right now I think they're louder for him. I don't think

1:34:11

he gets that. You know, that's the one thing I disagree

1:34:13

with. I don't think Randy or a sympathy pop. I don't

1:34:15

think people look at him that way. Well,

1:34:18

I don't, I don't mean the sympathy pop, but

1:34:20

I mean the, Oh wow. We're glad we got

1:34:22

him back. Cause we might not have. Yeah. We're

1:34:24

happy. He's that the I

1:34:26

don't get it. He was like, Oh, poor Randy. I can't believe

1:34:28

he's back. I never. All

1:34:30

right. Poor, poor verbiage on my

1:34:33

part or whatever then. Uh,

1:34:36

but, but the, yes, that's, you know, that's basically

1:34:38

the deal. I bet, you know, they're glad to

1:34:40

see him. He's been there so long. He's been

1:34:42

at that level. So,

1:34:45

well, you asked me the other day, are they

1:34:48

cool in LA night off? I don't, I don't

1:34:50

think so. I think just Randy's kind of running

1:34:52

away with some of this. I

1:34:54

don't know. It does feel like there are guys that, you

1:34:57

know, not to compare to AW, but LA

1:34:59

night got really hot and then, you

1:35:02

know, things kind of come down a little bit.

1:35:05

Punk came in, it was the biggest thing ever. You

1:35:09

know, they're still kind of fitting them into

1:35:11

things. There's still a lot of stuff we

1:35:13

haven't seen, but also the rock came in

1:35:15

right behind that again, not to compare it to

1:35:17

AW when they have like punk and Danielson and Adam

1:35:19

Cole and just one after another boom, boom, boom. But

1:35:22

it does feel like some guys are

1:35:24

not, I don't know. You

1:35:27

would think that if in a world where punk did

1:35:29

not come in, let's say, and when

1:35:31

the rock did not come in, they

1:35:33

may have used LA night a little differently between

1:35:35

survivor series and now. And

1:35:38

I, yeah, I agree with that, but

1:35:40

at the same time, I don't think

1:35:42

it's too late or anything or to

1:35:45

spell doom and gloom. I think unlike

1:35:47

AW where they don't really follow up

1:35:49

and people just lose track or interest,

1:35:52

they've still featured LA night. He's just

1:35:54

in a much more crowded forest. So

1:35:56

his, his blossoms can't

1:35:59

shine. quite as brightly in

1:36:01

the middle of all is

1:36:07

that a good transition to how we

1:36:09

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1:36:11

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1:36:13

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1:36:15

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1:36:17

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1:36:20

do! No no. This mic is really good. Do you

1:36:22

hear the...listen to the wind. Give it a chance. Listen.

1:36:29

I could hear a mouse pissing on cotton.

1:36:31

It would sound like thunder. You

1:36:33

hear it though? You want to know and what

1:36:35

I'm just... You do! Yes you do! Yes!

1:36:38

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1:36:41

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1:36:43

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1:36:45

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1:37:03

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1:37:06

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1:37:08

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1:37:10

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1:37:12

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to fucking sleep. How

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much of it do you think was the

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crowd? How much of it you think was

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the wrestling? Well,

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I mean the crowd liked what the crowd

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liked and here's

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the thing, they can't hold a

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lot of this reasonably against the

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WWE as an entity now

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because if

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all of the people who were gone or all

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the people who were involved or there

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or knew of

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the things going on

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have either gone or are probably about to

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be gone, it's a

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new ownership and the boys, the talent,

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the girls, the rank and file, it's

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not their fucking fault. So

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if this

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was a deal where Vince

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still owned the company, everything was still as before,

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the whole WWE would be

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fucked. But I don't think the crowd

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was holding back because

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the news had dampened it that much.

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I think it just wasn't

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really that fucking stirring. I mean,

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there were moments and they

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did get up for what they like and they just

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wasn't that much there that they liked or

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that we liked in this thing. The

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opinion. And

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the thing is, if you didn't like something, you

1:43:29

were stuck with it for a long period of

1:43:31

time because now there was only four matches. AEW

1:43:34

has 13 on a fucking pay-per-view.

1:43:36

WWE has gone down to four and

1:43:39

two of them last an hour and a half apiece. So

1:43:44

it was a four-hour show and it was a bit of

1:43:46

a slog. What

1:43:49

did Hulk Hogan add to the open? Did

1:43:51

they get some kind of Tampa

1:43:53

tourism fucking payoff to do

1:43:55

that open? I didn't see

1:43:58

the open, but in the middle of the show is watching. something

1:44:00

with Hulk Hogan. I'm like, Oh, that's interesting. I guess

1:44:02

40 years of Hulkamania. But no,

1:44:04

it was him pitching the beauty

1:44:06

of Clearwater Beach. Yeah.

1:44:08

Well, the cold open two centered on,

1:44:10

you know, not only the rumble, but

1:44:12

the, the great history of the Tampa

1:44:14

area. And I

1:44:17

saw it was a flat out commercial for, oh

1:44:19

yeah. No, that was, that was in the middle.

1:44:21