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🎵 Hello

1:00

again everybody and welcome to the Jim Cornette

1:02

Experience. The WWE is on the road to

1:04

WrestleMania. AEW

1:06

is on the road to ruin

1:09

and after watching these programs I

1:11

feel like roadkill. And

1:13

joining me to talk about all this and so much more.

1:15

You know him well folks. Hawaiian

1:18

Brian the Podcasting Lion, the king of

1:20

the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network. Mr. co-host

1:22

to you. He

1:25

swerves when he drives and he does

1:27

donuts around the other podcasters. Be

1:29

great. Brian Last everybody. Hello,

1:31

Jim. A pleasure to be here once again. I

1:33

think if I had a rap song entrance it

1:35

would be, I drive fast and straight. Fast

1:38

and straight. I'm gonna crash right into you

1:41

and get what I need to get done done and go back home. You

1:43

never do anything straight. What the hell

1:46

was that? Well, just read into

1:48

that what you will. What are you trying to

1:50

say there, sir? Hold on here. Let

1:52

me just do this at the top of the program. It's

1:58

one of those weeks. No, I'm telling you, it

2:02

was 60-something degrees here this past week.

2:04

It rained and then snowed on Friday.

2:06

It was 19 degrees

2:09

this morning when I took

2:11

Harley out to take her morning Russo. You

2:15

know that stage you get in where

2:17

you think you might be coming down with

2:19

a cold but you don't

2:22

feel exactly right but

2:24

at the same time you're not fully sick.

2:28

You're sniffling and you're coughing and

2:30

things. The states has been going through this for

2:32

the past couple weeks because again it goes 60

2:34

and then it goes to teens and then

2:36

whatever the fuck happens and the snow and

2:39

the rain and the wetness and

2:41

you don't know whether it's allergy or just

2:43

general weather crud or whether you have some

2:46

growing space age biological

2:48

illness inside your goddamn

2:50

organs. So

2:54

I might be a little... It could go either way.

2:58

It could go either way here. Folks, you might

3:00

hear me flatline on the program today. And

3:03

that's another thing. Which will be followed by

3:06

the Jim Cornette option right here on the

3:08

same program. Well, if you can. We've

3:11

got a fine set of programs here from

3:13

St. Louis. But

3:16

anyway, so this is going

3:18

to be one of those shows because I just

3:21

spoke to you a couple days

3:23

ago. We never end these ongoing

3:26

programs because there's so much going on.

3:29

And I don't have an order of events. I

3:32

have a million things jotted down here on these

3:34

various pieces of paper that

3:36

we need to discuss or that I want to

3:38

bring up or recognize with people. But since

3:41

I spoke to you in the world of wrestling,

3:43

has there been any

3:45

murders, any sexual assaults,

3:48

any gun shots,

3:50

any lawsuits that we're

3:52

aware of that have happened in the last

3:54

48 hours or so? That

3:57

we're aware of. I don't think so.

4:00

Well, thank holy fucking Jesus

4:02

and Nazareth for that then.

4:05

Although thank you Nails is now trending.

4:08

No, I kid, I kid. You

4:12

know, he was patient zero. Maybe we'll come to find

4:14

out. He was right all along. See, the problem was

4:17

like all the wrestlers that came out at 92, 93

4:19

and spoke out against Vince, for

4:23

one reason or another there was enough to

4:25

point at them and say they're crazy. Yeah.

4:28

By Billy Graham, Billy Jack Haynes.

4:31

You know, David Schultz, if you don't agree with

4:33

him, you think he's completely fucking crazy. David

4:35

Schultz, for a person who has not been

4:37

around the wrestling

4:39

industry and the colorful characters in

4:41

it, David Schultz can be a

4:44

harsh entrance to that world. You

4:47

get a strong opinion of whether you want to talk

4:49

to him or not real quick or whether he wants

4:51

to talk to you real quick or not. But yeah,

4:53

for various reasons, as you said, one or

4:56

another. Captain

4:58

Lou bless him, but my God, you

5:01

know, he didn't come off as the soul

5:03

of probity. But Nails,

5:07

you know, Kevin Kelly, Kevin Walcox, whatever his

5:09

real name is, he was

5:11

always considered to be. I don't think if

5:13

any of those actually, you butchered the pronunciation

5:15

of his last name, but it's

5:17

not Kevin Kelly of the Kevin Kelly

5:20

announcer Kevin. Right, he wrestled his name. No, his

5:22

real name in Kevin Kelly either. He had

5:25

to change it because of that fucking situation

5:27

down in Pittsburgh. Whatever

5:29

that was. Funny enough, Kevin Kelly's real name

5:31

is Michael Cole. But you

5:33

now look at that story a little differently.

5:35

I thought it was Richard Blood. He went

5:38

in there. That's Tito Santana, you're

5:40

thinking of, sir. He went in there looking

5:42

for one of the Vince's office looking to,

5:44

I guess, bring up an issue with pay

5:47

and Vince. Vince

5:49

tried to fondle him or

5:51

something, so he choked him out. And

5:54

Vince was never in a meeting

5:56

alone with anyone ever again. And

5:58

Vince's story was he just came in and started. attacking

6:00

me for no reason. Well,

6:05

somewhere in between lies the truth

6:07

that I can

6:09

imagine the, I

6:12

can imagine the snatching of Vince more than

6:14

I can imagine Vince going

6:16

for the fondling of a, of a

6:18

large, angry wrestler mad

6:20

about his pay. Even

6:23

if you might think that Vince might

6:25

be predisposed to fondle anyone of

6:27

any description. Maybe he was turned down by the

6:29

idea. The guy was a prisoner that the guy

6:31

was like under control. This is a weirdo. He's

6:33

a sicko. Who knows what turns him on? I'd

6:36

probably wouldn't have been fucking nails even

6:39

back then. If he,

6:41

he was never a Hollywood

6:43

fucking, uh, poster boy was like,

6:46

don't go to the warden.

6:48

Right. Where's the big boss man? I, we don't

6:50

need him right now. So me and

6:52

you now, but

6:55

they could have had a whole prison

6:57

hierarchy there. If everybody had lasted, Vince

6:59

could have been the warden. Uh,

7:02

boss man could have been the guard and nails could have

7:04

been the convict. Could have been a whole thing, but never

7:08

the last, you know, that's, I, uh, I,

7:11

I appreciate again, the people

7:13

on Twitter this past week, my

7:15

friend, Kenny Macintosh, somehow

7:19

put out a clip or something that we said,

7:21

and that started his fans over there of the

7:23

inside the ropes tours going, well,

7:26

when are you going to bring Cornette back? And

7:29

I appreciate the people who want to see me

7:31

again. And I have

7:33

nothing against Kenny and he hadn't been involved in any

7:35

of that stuff with Vince. He wasn't even that. Uh,

7:39

he's probably inside the ropes and probably the only

7:41

scandal free wrestling organization of

7:43

any size in the world today. This is

7:45

the weirdest transition to a conversation. What do

7:48

you know? But I'm just saying, I appreciate

7:50

what I was trying to say. I know

7:52

we were talking about a pervert, but let

7:54

me tell you about my friend Kenny Mac.

7:56

Well, no, no, because I've got a bunch

7:59

of his fans. when he tweeted this,

8:01

however it came up, we're

8:04

saying, hey, I was there and they tweeted

8:06

a picture. One guy said, I lost my

8:08

virginity the night of the Cornette show and

8:10

not with me though. I don't recall meeting

8:13

the gentleman. The VIP package. But

8:15

anyway, they were wanting me to come back over. I wanted Kenny

8:17

to get me back over there. And

8:19

he does every once in a while in a

8:21

gentle way, try to, you know, bring the subject

8:24

up, but where I was leading with this was

8:26

for the people who still want me to

8:29

somehow be involved in wrestling and

8:31

some description, what promotion do you

8:35

think right now, Brian, on the face

8:37

of the planet that

8:40

I could work for on whether it be

8:42

a daily or a weekly basis, whatever the

8:45

parameters would be and last

8:48

three months without waking up at

8:51

a hotel room one morning, throwing

8:54

my bag through the window

8:56

without opening it, jumping

8:58

out after it. And if I lived

9:01

getting in my truck

9:03

and heading home, maybe

9:06

SDW. Oh,

9:09

what Scott, the more wrestling that new, oh,

9:11

I didn't know if they haven't started

9:14

up yet. So I said, see existing

9:16

today. Now I'd be glad to bop

9:18

up to Windsor, but no,

9:23

come on. Gee,

9:25

many Christmas. No, dragon

9:28

gate. Well, that might

9:30

be, maybe, hey, Lano, maybe

9:33

you'd get me, the job is Booker over there. Like

9:35

you tried to do it in 1990 or whatever the

9:38

fuck it was, but

9:40

it, I just, I could, the

9:42

chaos and the constant drama and

9:44

the, it's not in the ring.

9:47

I got into business when the wrestling

9:49

business was the wrestling business. Is

9:52

it whether it was good wrestling or

9:54

bad wrestling, whether it drew or it didn't draw

9:56

and who was going to, what promoter was going

9:58

to stab the other one back over

10:00

fucking Cleveland. You

10:03

know, simple shit. There weren't

10:05

goddamn major fucking lawsuits and

10:07

front page headlines of people

10:09

slandering each other and fucking

10:12

killing each other and goddamn attacking

10:14

and assaulting each other and running

10:16

goddamn. I mean, the only

10:18

thing apparently that was missing at Titan tower over

10:20

the last few years we've come to find out

10:23

was Ron Jeremy and,

10:25

and the, the constant sort

10:28

of Damocles. Well, I, you know, the guy

10:30

that's running the company this week may not

10:33

be the guy that's running the company next

10:35

week. What

10:37

the fuck? I

10:39

can't imagine being involved in this. As I

10:41

sat back and look just the other day

10:44

at the scope and the magnitude of me

10:47

and the magnitude of the things that have gone

10:49

on here over the past few years in wrestling

10:51

business, not to mention the hokey

10:53

horse shit and the goddamn trampoline

10:56

Cowboys, but I'm just talking about

10:59

what the fuck I can, can you

11:01

think of one wrestling promotion that

11:04

has not changed ownership, fired

11:06

its head, its

11:08

head has lost power, potentially

11:11

over its head's dick, uh,

11:13

or that has not sued or been

11:15

sued, sued another promotion

11:17

or been sued by another promotion over

11:20

the last 12 months. The

11:23

problem too is look at it the other way. Try

11:25

to look at the positives. Try to

11:27

look for the positives. What

11:29

promoter and take WWE out of this beyond

11:32

their scandals. They do have competent leadership at

11:34

least beyond turning a blind eye at

11:36

all the scandals, I guess, but

11:38

who out there from Tony

11:40

Khan on down all across the world right

11:42

now instills confidence in

11:45

you as a boss, as a promoter,

11:47

as a booker so that

11:49

you would say, you know what, it may be

11:51

rough right now, but we could fix this competent

11:53

leadership. I'm not going to have to worry about

11:55

any bullshit there. Whatever else happens

11:57

in wrestling, at least I'll have

11:59

a. Danny Davis I'm working with. Who

12:02

was out there like that? Someone you said, you

12:04

know what? OVW may not be an easy thing,

12:07

but I'll be working with someone I know I could deal

12:09

with and trust, so

12:11

it'll be all right. There aren't too many examples of that.

12:13

That's the problem too. If I tried

12:16

to shoehorn Danny Davis out of the

12:18

Florida Panhandle to do anything, here, that

12:21

would be probably right now, you know,

12:23

um, but that's not what

12:25

I'm saying. I'm not saying get involved. That would be, that

12:27

would be the person I was, okay. You

12:29

know, I need to deal

12:31

with someone I can trust and knows what the

12:33

fuck they're doing, Danny. But otherwise, no, it

12:36

just, and again, you know, we're not

12:39

saying the WWE is doing fabulous as

12:41

a business despite the

12:43

funny business. Um,

12:46

but God, that's

12:48

another thing. I never aspired

12:51

to be a

12:53

large cog executive

12:55

in a multi-billion

12:58

dollar global conglomerate.

13:01

I wanted to cut some promos,

13:04

sell some tickets, run some shows,

13:06

and have some fucking wrestling, right?

13:10

And I, I admire the few

13:12

contemporaries of my age group that still

13:14

have, as I've mentioned with old happy

13:16

Heyman, especially with the fucking state of

13:19

his physical health and

13:21

just the obvious,

13:24

you know, morbidity that's taking place before

13:26

our eyes that he still got the

13:28

fucking drive to actually

13:30

do this on a regular basis. Well,

13:34

anyway, regardless of whether I want to travel

13:36

the globe with any, you know,

13:39

a major scandal ridden wrestling promotions or

13:41

not, I can't leave the house anymore

13:45

because if I try to do something that

13:48

I carefully plan it, something will go awry.

13:50

I tried to go to the eye doctor

13:53

day before yesterday. I've

13:56

been needing to do this for about 15 Years,

13:58

get a new pair of glasses. I'm seriously. The

14:00

glasses I'm wearing now have had Ramos

14:02

fifteen years. And. One

14:04

of the earpiece is broken and I got one of

14:06

the nose pieces I glued on with wood glue because

14:08

it's what I had available. And.

14:11

I don't like that process. have we

14:13

spoken about this? You.

14:16

And I we've spoken that you have like

14:18

a thing where are you can't deal with

14:20

eye drops or anyone touching her is no

14:22

even looking at your i a brand new

14:24

know a toast to not look me in

14:27

the eye. Am. The

14:29

I can't have water in my

14:31

eye drops. Oh a you

14:34

know the idea of someone touching my for

14:36

the people have been if I watched him

14:38

I put contact lenses in their own eyes

14:40

it will make me wanna throw up because

14:43

is just revulsion to me. So.

14:45

As not a procedure I liked undergo

14:47

a lot an. Hour

14:50

was just had just talk myself into do

14:52

and it. And. Get a new

14:54

pair glasses and a pandemic hits and then I

14:56

wonder that have a by up my fucking face

14:58

right? And. Then you

15:00

know we I did. I can't be. Just.

15:03

Willy nilly going down there just taken

15:05

my pot luck. I. Don't

15:07

have time. We gotta be doing these podcasts.

15:09

Oh finally I've decided I'm a do it again

15:11

I spaces where that that flyer? We got

15:13

her the coupon and mail. From.

15:16

The vision works people. As

15:19

a day's ride down a road. As

15:22

a do they take the boy much she said oh

15:24

wow went down there last year. You just walk right

15:26

in. It's a ghost town or nobody ever in there.

15:29

I was in and out and hours a bubble block.

15:32

As. While still be unlucky. So C V

15:34

make me an appointment for like you know,

15:36

Tuesday or whatever it was time. And.

15:39

She tries a you can't just call

15:41

These people on a phone. And

15:43

say gonna come in Tuesday at two o'clock.

15:46

You. Gotta go online and do something

15:48

and she couldn't figure it out.

15:51

And then the couldn't get it to do what

15:53

she wanted to do and as it never fung

15:55

of mine and i put it off another couple

15:57

months. And. in fine

16:00

I said, all right, I'll go in

16:02

there early in the morning. I like to get in and get

16:04

out early in the morning, so I

16:06

can get back home before people get too

16:08

fucking drunk and crazy. I'll

16:11

go in there if it's a ghost town, boom,

16:14

I'll do the whole thing. So I went in

16:16

there 9.15 in the morning. There

16:19

is literally two people in there,

16:21

two customers. One is

16:24

obviously the guys looking around for the glasses

16:26

and the woman is sitting there playing

16:29

with her phone waiting for him. So there's one

16:31

customer, right? And there

16:33

are two people working and it's a big fucking place.

16:36

And I said, good morning. They said, how can we help

16:39

you? I said, I would like to get an eye exam

16:41

and get some new eyeglasses. And

16:43

they said, do you have an appointment? I said, no. I

16:46

said, my wife tried to make one a while back,

16:48

but she couldn't figure out that, oh, our system is

16:50

horrible. I

16:52

said, well, it doesn't seem like it'd be

16:55

too long of a wait. Oh, we don't have anything now. And

16:59

I'm looking around. I'm like, what the

17:01

fuck else is going on here? And

17:06

they said, we have today at 5.30. I

17:08

said, no. I said,

17:10

what about tomorrow? Oh, tomorrow we're completely booked

17:12

up. I'm looking around,

17:15

there's tumbleweeds blowing through this fucking

17:17

lobby, right? And

17:19

these are the two people working the

17:22

desk. I assume there's doctors and fucking

17:24

clinicians and technicians and experts

17:26

and people at Oculus

17:29

and optometrists

17:31

that are doing this shit, right?

17:34

It's not these two fucking 22 year

17:36

old fucking airheads that are

17:38

goddamn going to be prescribing

17:41

my glasses. So there's more people in this

17:43

play. There's not a car in the parking

17:45

lot. So

17:48

I said, well, and I had already, not only

17:50

had I taken a shower and shaved for this

17:52

occasion because somebody was going to be up in

17:54

my face, but also I had a breath lodge,

17:57

lozenge in. I

17:59

was, I was. So far we have got an appointment

18:01

now from. Whatever. Day Two

18:03

More days from now. Oh

18:06

haven't a bar? Have an appointment. Ammo See

18:08

what? this? Procedure. Is like

18:10

but. Was. It would is

18:12

he would. Do. You

18:15

encounter this type of thing up there in

18:17

New Jersey. I. Mean

18:19

you can't just show up in a doctor's

18:21

office with no appointment in the So there's

18:23

that. Know it's not adopt. That's the thing.

18:25

That's what I'm already upset about. That's why

18:28

don't go to these places very often. It's

18:30

not an eye doctors office anymore. Like when

18:32

I was a kid you'd was see doctor.

18:34

So and so the eye doctor. And.

18:37

He'd scare the shit out of you. Any

18:40

to look all mean and menacing. And

18:43

it was a him. The determined whether you were going

18:45

to go blind or not. Ceremonies.

18:47

Glasses since I was in third grade. Second,

18:50

Grade Anyway, That. I

18:52

believe he was a real doctor, but

18:54

a walk in a shopping mall bullshit

18:56

they've got these days and their flyers

18:58

is we take walk. And

19:01

Stacey walked in. The.

19:03

Same flag blaze as all come right

19:05

in friend. Me:

19:08

I'm stay in an era of bargain

19:10

empty goddamn warehouse and they booted me

19:12

out. I

19:15

target personally. Are.

19:21

You there? Yeah. My eyes are

19:23

funds. I don't really relate to the story have

19:25

you never had a deep, never been to the

19:27

eye doctor. I have not had a

19:29

reason. The donor. Will. Know

19:31

the reason you could have some kind of

19:34

goddamn. Glaucoma.

19:37

A that would affect you even if

19:39

your eyesight is you think in good

19:41

shape save for somebody who stands the

19:43

rest of their body. Is a

19:45

some said your. Plugin,

19:47

Drop in a ball on here. What are

19:49

you laughing at? I just saw, yes all

19:51

my skin. A

19:54

that glaucoma just close in on

19:56

year. And. pretty soon you're

19:58

as a loop like to fuck and master and

20:00

fucking kung fu. All

20:03

right. Well, this is your show. Well,

20:06

anyway, real quick, this

20:09

is serious, honestly. Uh, we do, before

20:11

we go any further, we want to

20:13

send our condolences out to

20:16

Jeremy Bagley, who is obviously, we've talked

20:18

about him a bunch of times, jacked

20:20

up Jeremy, he's a member of the

20:22

Cult of Cornet and he's

20:24

done so much. Not

20:26

only has he contributed thousands of dollars

20:29

to the various charity

20:32

organizations that we've done

20:34

fundraisers for, whatever, but also he's

20:36

organized and raised thousands of

20:39

dollars for the American Cancer Society a few

20:41

years ago in honor of Dennis Condry and

20:43

just, he's a great guy,

20:45

does things for people all over the place and

20:48

other members of the Cult and

20:51

his father just passed

20:53

away yesterday as we're speaking right now.

20:55

Oh, I'm so sorry. I had not heard

20:58

that. And he had

21:00

had, I

21:02

don't know whether it was Alzheimer's

21:04

specifically, but had had some dementia

21:06

here recently and had taken, he'd

21:08

had great success with

21:11

a number of health issues, but it took

21:13

turn for the worse recently, but I believe

21:15

he was over 80. I hope I'm saying

21:17

that correctly. But anyway,

21:19

you know, we just

21:21

wanted to send our thoughts to Jeremy and

21:23

his mom and the rest of the family.

21:25

And, you know, we were sorry to hear

21:27

that, but Jeremy has taken a positive tone

21:30

on the thing. He tweeted a heck of a

21:32

tweet of collage of pictures of his dad who

21:35

had lived

21:37

an amazing life. So he's

21:39

taken a positive thought and a bunch

21:41

of people tweeted him that they were thinking

21:43

about him, but we did want to mention that.

21:47

And also, and Charlie

21:49

from Starkville, who is

21:51

a Frequent, Who, well,

21:53

when we used to be able to

21:55

answer questions back before people were being

21:57

kidnapped in goddamn offices and shit. It.

22:00

Charlie from Starkville is the his

22:02

mom. on the positive side is

22:05

cancer free. After two years. She

22:08

just got that news and she's

22:10

a champion. But

22:12

his father's recently been diagnosed with form

22:14

of cancer and they're. Checking.

22:17

that out further but we wanted to. Acknowledge

22:20

him and also while we're on

22:22

a subject. I'm Hotchkiss

22:24

Feather Bottom, the young man who the

22:27

world. Knows. As Hotchkiss

22:29

feather bottom. Even though he

22:31

has a variety of off brand. Relatives.

22:34

That we've talked about. He's got a wonderful

22:36

mother and she's been sick with pneumonia. And

22:39

she is Have they had some other health issues

22:42

or check it out but we want her to

22:44

give. Well. Quick. She's

22:46

eighty five. And

22:48

I know a people are saying and what is

22:50

it? Hot is seventy Eight Know Hotchkiss was, as

22:52

we say, down south the runt of the litter.

22:55

He. Came later in life. But.

22:58

Anyway, we wanted to send of. Our

23:00

thoughts out to her as well. And.

23:04

Nice or he buys as your family do

23:06

and I'm just thinking about the ages of

23:08

a feather. Bottom family has all fascinating. They.

23:11

Are spread out. All. Across

23:13

the spectrum, their. Ah,

23:15

but while I'm doing it, as said, there was

23:17

no order to this. But let's bring things back

23:19

to the positive on a send a thank you.

23:22

To James who did not.

23:26

Include. Is mailing address that I'm on

23:28

a trout I. Gave. Me the

23:30

email. you know I am with those. but

23:32

I'm going to poke into this further. But

23:34

James from Jimmy Joseph where L L C

23:36

in New Jersey. Who

23:39

apparently does screen printing? He sent me

23:41

a. Beautiful. Of

23:43

our windbreaker type jacket with the Smoking

23:45

Man wrestling logo on it. And

23:48

I wanted to thank him for that and your

23:50

friend of mine. Frank. The

23:53

Collector jail. Of a

23:55

sent me. an know

23:57

we trade things back and forth scrapbook

24:01

of clippings from the Ray

24:03

Eckert estate sale. And

24:06

I'd gotten some programs from

24:08

Memphis that he had

24:11

had in that collection, but this is a

24:13

variety of newspaper clippings and it's nice scrapbook

24:15

from, it ranged

24:17

from the late 30s to the early 50s.

24:21

And I appreciate and of course, the

24:24

cake lady as she's known around the

24:26

house here, Joni Aries sent

24:29

me Brian and I'm sorry you just, you

24:31

don't qualify. Joni and I go way

24:33

back. You're just a fresh-faced pup in

24:35

this relationship. That's why you don't get

24:37

it. Yeah, off Aries does your stuff

24:40

taste like shit. Oh

24:42

come on! That's why I don't get it.

24:44

She sent me a

24:46

congratulatory celebratory cake

24:49

for our 400,000 subscribers on

24:51

YouTube. You should get it tested first

24:53

before you dive in. Hey,

24:55

you know what? She also sends the cake and

24:57

the icing separate and puts the icing in

24:59

the bag because she knows I like to do

25:02

it on the ice. You better test that

25:04

too. Oh come on. It

25:07

looks like one of those fucking arts

25:09

and crafts things. She's a professional

25:12

at this type of thing. She works in the

25:14

industry. Well and also I

25:16

want to thank Frank the collector. He just sent

25:19

me a record for my wrestling vinyl collection. It

25:21

is Big Daddy's single from England. Big

25:24

Daddy and the Titanic survivors. We

25:26

shall not be moved. That's right.

25:28

You don't have that. You have not had that before. I've

25:31

had that since 1978. I did not have that one

25:34

in my collection though. I believe it's 1978.

25:36

It might not have come out in 1978. Probably

25:39

it had to be out by 1980. How did

25:42

you get it? I got it

25:45

from my

25:47

God. Oh my God. What was

25:49

his name? There was a guy. Was it

25:51

Evan Traharn in the

25:54

70s that when

25:56

I traded, you know,

25:59

pictures and programs. and stuff with anybody whose

26:01

address was in the magazine so I could get shit.

26:03

I've got 70s

26:05

independent UK

26:08

wrestling posters with Adrian Street on them.

26:10

I got the Big Daddy record. I

26:12

got some Mark

26:14

Rocco stuff, a variety of that

26:17

mid-late 70s British

26:19

world of sport scene when

26:22

I was trading shit back and forth. I can't

26:24

remember the guy's name for sure now. But

26:28

yes, it's probably

26:32

the best record

26:34

ever by a 400-plus pound

26:36

wrestler because I've heard plowboy

26:38

fraziers and it's better than

26:40

his. I

26:43

think Giant Haystacks was on Young, Strong and

26:45

Healthy by Otto Vons and the crew. Well,

26:48

then in that case, now if

26:50

Otto Vons had a singing career,

26:52

we might have to remodel

26:57

that fucking listing. Anyway, have you heard

26:59

about this? Do you know what has

27:01

happened now on Comedy Central that's worth

27:03

watching for once? Reruns

27:06

of the office. John

27:08

Stewart is back on The Daily Show,

27:10

Monday nights only, but he's back. His

27:13

first Monday was this past Monday. You

27:17

have said nothing. You are compa... Do

27:19

you not consider John Stewart the funniest

27:21

man on television? I

27:23

do not, no. Why? Well,

27:27

I mean, I think he's funny and I like his stuff,

27:29

but he's not the funniest man on television. Let

27:32

me tell you, I watched the... When

27:34

he hosted The Daily Show. Funniest man

27:36

on television? I watched that show religiously

27:40

or atheistically since it's me.

27:43

If I couldn't be home, if he were

27:46

still doing shows or whatever, I would record

27:48

it. I would watch it as soon as

27:50

I got home. I loved that show. John

27:53

Stewart is not only hilarious, but

27:55

he's fucking brilliant. And

27:57

he's witty and he's quick and boom.

27:59

boom, boom, if he was a wrestler, he'd

28:02

be my favorite. And

28:04

then he left the, he left

28:06

the fucking, I'm just telling you, I mean, you know,

28:08

the thing to throw in there. He's

28:10

got all the, he's got all the tools I'm

28:12

telling you, but, and then he leaves

28:16

the show and it went to complete shit

28:18

and I haven't watched it since. You

28:22

didn't like Trevor Noah? Oh,

28:24

fuck. Come on. I

28:26

don't know how that guy got a job parking cars.

28:30

I don't know. I've never seen it.

28:32

I've never got it. I don't know what

28:34

the fuck that anybody would watch that show

28:36

for. But

28:39

now John Stewart is back on Mondays.

28:41

Are you going to be watching Tuesday? Are you

28:44

going to be watching on Tuesday? No, cause he's

28:46

not on on Tuesdays. He's on on Mondays. I'm

28:50

watching the daily show with John Stewart. Give

28:52

me the daily show with John Stewart daily,

28:54

every day, Monday through Sunday. I'll watch it.

28:56

But if it's the daily show, but not

28:58

with John Stewart. Fuck your

29:00

daily show. Should they get Craig Kilborn a night?

29:04

I don't give a fuck. He was the original

29:06

host. I don't care. Cause

29:09

it's not the daily show. I

29:15

don't care what he fucking does. Do you like John

29:17

Oliver? You see, just did a big segment about Chuck

29:19

E. Cheese. Yes. I must admit,

29:22

I like John

29:24

Oliver. I like, uh, I like John

29:26

Oliver segments on the daily show. Um,

29:30

I like John Oliver in segments. I'm not sure

29:32

I can do John Oliver for the whole show,

29:34

but he only does 30 minutes. So it's not

29:36

fucking, but it's a lot of John Oliver. Yeah.

29:38

But it's still a lot of John. All

29:42

right. Not a big John Stewart fan, huh? No, I like

29:45

him. I think he's great. I'm not that excited yet. We'll

29:47

see. I mean, it's always weird when someone leaves the job

29:49

and they come back years later and they're going to do

29:51

it for one night a week. I mean, this is like

29:53

a Jay Leno kind of thing almost, but

29:56

well, it's a goddamn. Obviously a

29:58

ratings ploy by the. Loundering comedy

30:01

cinema. No, no, I think it's good for him I

30:03

mean he just he lost that Apple deal where he

30:05

walked away from that Apple deal because they were they

30:07

didn't want to do Stories about like China and stuff

30:10

because it would screw up their relationship with China. So now

30:14

Of all the things that he ever did this was the

30:16

thing that he did best I

30:18

don't want the Daily Show with China I want

30:21

the Daily Show with Jon Stewart Did you ever

30:23

watch the Larry Sanders show episodes with Jon Stewart

30:25

where he was gonna take over the show? I

30:28

did not like season. I didn't know

30:30

about those All right, you didn't

30:32

know about the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. No,

30:34

it wasn't even invented yet Well,

30:37

we show with Jon Stewart, but it's one of the best

30:39

shows in the history of television That's why I wasn't looking

30:41

for fucking Jon Stewart Alright But

30:44

nevertheless the point that I was trying to

30:46

make to you is before you obscured it

30:48

and obfuscated the issue with all of that

30:50

Falterall Was that

30:53

he doesn't need to come back and

30:55

work five days a week cuz he's

30:57

probably my age I would imagine and

30:59

it probably feels the same way he'd

31:01

rather styne vision a future here where

31:03

I sit at home and have more

31:05

puppies and Stacy and I

31:07

work on Planning the

31:09

landscaping not goddamn what TV show

31:12

I'm gonna host next so I

31:14

would assume that they have offered

31:17

him a sweet proposition To

31:19

come back on Mondays as a way to

31:21

kickstart their week of substandard

31:24

hosts from there on out as A

31:26

ratings ploy, which I think is wonderful

31:29

business. What else would you do to

31:31

fix Comedy Central? Well,

31:34

actually you don't need to There's

31:37

nothing there anymore. They have no

31:39

original programming they're

31:41

just Do they am I

31:44

missing it? I? Haven't

31:47

seen anything original in a while. It's all reruns

31:51

Of everything and maybe

31:53

that's a indictment of comedy to not only

31:55

television but Anyway, this

31:58

is your show. Okay. Well Speaking

32:00

of television of things that is going

32:02

to return to television, we

32:05

got the heads up now, the information

32:07

is coming out, the press releases, et

32:09

cetera, and also we're probably behind on

32:11

this because we're too busy covering fucking

32:14

insanity. But

32:17

there's several television programs returning to

32:19

the air in what

32:22

I think late February and or early March,

32:25

you could maybe got the details. Our

32:27

friends at Dark Side of the Ring

32:29

are going to be back on Vice and

32:32

this is not going to

32:34

be a season where they have a show

32:36

on Vince McMahon. That will be season six

32:38

and it'll be a 10-part miniseries. But

32:42

season five is going to have

32:44

some interesting characters

32:46

on it as well as some feedback

32:49

or input from your

32:52

humble servant myself. And

32:55

then the shows as well on A&E

32:57

are coming back to give

33:00

us more biographies and more rivalries.

33:03

So we got that to look forward

33:05

to along with the leaves

33:07

on trees in the spring. But

33:11

first things first, let's talk about Dark Side

33:13

of the Ring on Vice

33:15

TV. It's season five and

33:17

there's a couple of interesting ones

33:19

this year and one

33:21

that I know I'm especially involved

33:23

in. But do you have the list in front of you,

33:26

Brian? I do have the list here and one that

33:28

I can't figure out exactly what the Dark Side will be.

33:31

We'll get to that in a moment. But season five of

33:33

Dark Side of the Ring premieres Tuesday, March 5th,

33:35

10 p.m.

33:37

Eastern Time on Vice

33:40

TV is the official name of this channel now.

33:42

Yes. Here are the episodes. That's

33:44

what was always the name of it. Didn't it originally

33:46

have a different name? I've

33:48

been calling it Vice TV. Maybe they're just catching up

33:50

to me now. I don't know. No

33:53

one watches it. I'll get in this show, of

33:55

course, because Jim's on it. Well, there you go.

33:57

Here's the lineup and you could, I guess, stop

33:59

after each name and tell me what you think. Chris

34:02

Adams. Well, this one

34:04

is going to be interesting. I am not

34:06

involved in this. I knew obviously Chris from

34:08

Dallas, we were there for six months, but

34:11

otherwise, um, you

34:13

know, we didn't coexist, but, uh,

34:16

I understand from the preview, from the

34:18

clip, they have the, the

34:21

guy that shot him, right? Do

34:24

you remember his name? I'll never forget the guy's

34:26

name. No, I can't. Cause there was a Gary

34:28

Hart interview talking about it and Gary Hart was

34:30

very upset. He was close to Chris Adams. So

34:33

it's weird just seeing a grown man talk about it. He's like, and

34:35

then Bure shot him. And

34:38

Bure, Bure, who the fuck is this

34:40

guy? Well,

34:43

that was, uh, it was

34:45

in Texas. So these things happened down there.

34:49

But anyway, um, you

34:51

know, that's the thing with Adams. He, he

34:54

made an impression in a short period

34:56

of time in this

34:59

country, in the wrestling business, because people

35:01

forget he, he

35:03

wasn't really here and in a spot on

35:06

any kind of national television for more than like

35:08

six years from the time that he came from

35:11

England, right? Until he

35:14

was off TV for the most part. And I

35:16

know some people are so well, he was on,

35:18

everybody was on WCW in the nineties, uh,

35:21

but I'm telling me in a meaningful spot, but

35:23

he made an impression, the super kick, which was,

35:27

you know, it was a bit of a, yeah,

35:29

he did it best and he, he looked like a

35:31

guy that could do with

35:34

those long legs and he still had the size

35:36

and a blah, blah, blah. And he, it

35:38

looked good and it wasn't, you

35:41

know, just prostituted to shit to where people just did

35:44

it over and over and got up from it, et

35:46

cetera, et cetera. But that was

35:48

a variation as simple as it is on

35:50

anything that had been done in

35:52

a way of kicks at that point. And

35:55

you know, he was a legitimate, uh,

35:59

judo. practitioner and

36:01

an amateur in England and I guess

36:03

his brother was way far ahead of

36:05

him, was like nationally or internationally

36:08

ranked. But

36:10

Chris was a good worker and he was,

36:13

I think as a heel, a better talker,

36:15

he was so, as a baby face, he

36:17

was so cheery, smiley,

36:19

white meat, early

36:22

80s kind of thing that I don't think that would

36:24

have gotten over as the

36:26

80s progressed. But he was, with

36:29

that accent and that cockiness, he was

36:32

a good promo. I

36:35

don't know that, he

36:37

was not going to be the main event

36:40

guy either way in Crockett promotions or in

36:42

the WWF at the time. He was not

36:45

going to be the guy but he was

36:48

capable of being on a card anywhere. And

36:50

he was again, I never

36:52

saw that part because I was not socializing

36:56

with him and Gino and Highland Park

36:58

or whatever while we were there but

37:01

apparently the nicest guy in the

37:03

world to your face at least

37:05

and in the locker room or whatever and

37:07

then he would, yeah, he drank and

37:09

he was a fucking lunatic. Didn't he like super

37:12

kick a flight attendant? Remember

37:14

he got arrested and he went to jail?

37:18

In the middle of a plane he just gave

37:20

her a super kick right in the aisle. Oh

37:22

no, he head butted her. Come on, don't take

37:25

it away from me. He gave her a pocket.

37:27

No, I got that. And that's why his legs

37:29

were so long he got over the fucking drink

37:31

cart. It's a bam. Holy shit, did you see

37:34

that? You

37:36

never saw it,

37:38

company went right over the fucking

37:41

A-l-8. No,

37:44

he head butted that wouldn't serve

37:47

him any more drinks. He allegedly, and

37:49

I think it was proven in a

37:51

court of law, head butted the flight

37:53

attendant. Now that I

37:55

think about it, I don't know whether it was a male

37:57

or female flight attendant. Now we've created a Probably

38:01

some type of false narrative there. It

38:03

was a female flight attendant. Well,

38:05

I mean, I'm open to fucking either one. I'm

38:07

just saying, we gotta leave all these things open

38:09

unless you... It's on the goddamn internet, so anybody

38:11

wants to fucking check it out. Is that to

38:14

be on Dark Side of the Ring? Is that

38:16

to be on Dark Side of the Ring? Oh,

38:18

please do a reenactment of him super kicking a

38:20

female flight attendant over the tray of drinks! That's

38:22

amazing! Would

38:24

Kevin Rauner try to pull him back? Right,

38:28

wasn't Kevin on a flight with him? Am I thinking of that right?

38:31

Uh, well, see, that's the thing

38:33

is that I'm trying

38:36

to remember is, was this in the dying

38:38

days of world class or was this in

38:40

the early 90s? I think

38:42

it was the dying days of world class. It

38:44

was even before the dying days. Because

38:47

he went to jail for it in

38:49

86 after he had turned babyface, because

38:51

then after that, he

38:53

jumped to lots with everyone else in world

38:55

class, and they made it a thing where

38:57

Iceman Parsons turned heel and was going Chris

38:59

Adams a jailbird. Well, okay,

39:02

well then in that case, yeah, I'm

39:04

pretty sure everybody... See, in those days,

39:06

I've mentioned we would fly Southwest Airlines.

39:09

It was like $39 from Dallas and

39:12

he would love field to anywhere in

39:14

Texas. And they had late

39:16

night flights that leave it like $10.50 or

39:18

whatever, so you could actually get back by

39:20

midnight. So all the

39:22

guys would take those flights. So if

39:25

there was a goddamn incident on a flight

39:27

in the Dallas crew, most times, most of

39:29

the guys were fucking on it. And

39:32

then I guess also you got to bring up... He trains Steve

39:34

Austin. Steve Austin ends up falling

39:36

in love and marrying Chris

39:39

Adams's ex-girlfriend. They were

39:41

never married, although people thought they were. And

39:44

then Steve Austin never

39:46

wanted to be around Chris Adams again ever. Yeah.

39:50

I mean, you know, there's something there

39:52

too. Because he had the inside scoop

39:54

on exactly Chris Adams, which

39:56

you'll learn on Dark Side of the

39:58

Ring this coming season. 5th and

40:00

beyond. All right, we've gotten one

40:02

episode in so far. Jim, another episode? There's

40:07

10 and here's episode two as

40:09

it's listed here, Sensational Sherry. And

40:13

I will be involved in this one. And

40:16

this is one that obviously it

40:21

hurts to

40:23

hear the story

40:25

that Sherry, everybody loves Sherry

40:27

and she was so talented

40:29

but there was several

40:31

issues and she was gone too

40:33

soon. So this one will be

40:35

one that I'm looking

40:38

forward to just to get her story told and

40:40

get some of the footage. If

40:43

people are watching wrestling footage of

40:45

Sherry Martel with modern

40:47

eyes now, she would be by

40:50

far along with Rhea Ripley. You

40:53

could main event Rhea Ripley

40:55

and Sherry Martel at WrestleMania

40:57

compared to the rest of

41:00

the female roster these days,

41:02

the intensity and the

41:05

fucking... She was

41:07

always presented strong. Even

41:09

though she was aligned with guys like

41:11

Randy Savage, D.B.A.C., Shawn Michaels, until maybe

41:14

Shawn Michaels, she was always presented as

41:16

being strong and dominant. And

41:20

that's the thing is that... And

41:22

I know somebody's gonna see one

41:24

of her matches on YouTube with

41:26

Candy Devine in a fucking Blase

41:28

AWA match and think, what? But

41:31

no, when she was on the

41:33

stage and being presented and there

41:35

was a fucking... She

41:37

fit right in with all of the

41:39

fucking stars and she had an oomph

41:42

and an intensity and a believability, especially

41:45

speaking that

41:48

they could use today instead of this fucking

41:51

chatter amongst many of the girls. Think of

41:54

the chance she got. It really is amazing

41:56

when Hogan and Savage break up and Elizabeth

41:59

goes with it. Hogan but she's not really

42:01

going on the road or anything, she makes a few

42:03

appearances with the babyfaces but she's not with Randy Savage

42:05

anymore. Sherry gets that

42:07

spot. Heal Randy

42:09

Savage and eventually King Randy Savage,

42:11

Macho King, Queen

42:13

Sherry and she excelled in that

42:16

role. That's a tough role to...you're

42:18

not really replacing Elizabeth because it's a different kind

42:21

of personality altogether but you're

42:23

replacing her in terms of being a valet

42:25

with Randy Savage who just had an iconic

42:28

relationship on this wrestling show with Elizabeth and

42:31

it worked. Well because

42:33

you actually finally got to

42:36

see the female part of

42:38

the equation do something. For

42:41

one thing, I know everybody loved Elizabeth,

42:43

I never got it. I'm

42:47

not saying anything about her, I've met her like

42:49

twice in person. I say anything bad about her

42:51

as a person. Let

42:53

the whole fucking just stand there

42:56

with the doe eyes and stares.

42:58

It was the damsel in distress.

43:00

Everyone could have pictured themselves saving her from that

43:02

mean Randy Savage like George Steele tried to do.

43:05

I wouldn't have risked my fucking

43:07

neck. Now if Sherry was in

43:09

trouble, I'll help her but anyway,

43:13

who's next? Next on the list

43:15

here, Terry Gordy. And

43:18

hopefully I will be on this

43:20

one and I also

43:22

as I recall tried to...or not tried

43:24

to, did, give

43:27

them some pictures and some footage and things

43:29

that again,

43:31

another brilliant

43:34

talent and who

43:36

would be otherworldly

43:38

today with his talent and

43:40

ability and natural oomph in

43:42

his day and the

43:45

shit that he could do. And

43:49

unfortunately, again, gone

43:52

too soon and just

43:54

as age

43:57

wise, chronologically, He

44:00

would have been in his late 30s when

44:02

the attitude era took off

44:04

and well, he was in his late 30s

44:07

when the attitude era took off and if

44:09

he'd have been in this condition he should

44:12

have been in chronologically, he could

44:16

have made a fucking fortune more than the free

44:18

birds did in their whole

44:20

run in a couple years and

44:22

he just missed it. And

44:25

I mean he still did wonderful in Japan but

44:28

to be able to after

44:31

all those years stay home for

44:33

a couple years and make several

44:36

hundred thousand dollars to whatever a year.

44:41

Do you still have because it was obviously

44:44

edited severely and

44:47

even in that form it was alarming at

44:49

the time but after Terry Gordy

44:51

had the incident where he passed out on the plane he

44:53

went into a coma and he came out

44:56

of it, he returned to wrestling, he did some stuff in

44:58

Dallas with Michael Hayes for the

45:00

GWF and then you

45:02

brought him in to the Knight

45:04

of Legends in 94 against Tony Anthony

45:08

and you had a promo you played on TV and

45:11

obviously like I said it was clipped. Do

45:13

you have like the unedited promo of that still? I mean

45:15

what did you think when you got that tape? I've

45:20

got a lot of work tapes

45:22

and stuff, I can't tell you off top

45:24

of my head if I have that one

45:26

specific raw footage of the interview

45:28

but it was

45:31

like a science fiction movie in that

45:34

the voice was basically the same and

45:36

it was coming out of the same

45:39

human being but all

45:41

of the emotion was gone. And

45:46

because whatever – It Was

45:50

a brain injury that ended up being

45:52

the result of the coma and everything.

45:54

Well yeah, I mean whatever oxygen was

45:56

– whatever part of the brain, I'm

45:58

not a brain. The Origin:

46:00

I'm a small down bird lawyer. Whatever.

46:02

part of the brain that of would

46:04

i lack of oxygen or com or

46:07

whatever effects it to accuse. He

46:10

a saiki was maybe still even

46:12

the same person inside behind the

46:14

eyes, but. I've. Mentioned

46:16

when. If you'd be talking to

46:18

some mine a locked room instead of be a jury,

46:20

Gordy to Obscura. Hey. You. Don't ask

46:22

the question or slippery on the back of whatever.

46:26

You would notice that is out of

46:28

the corner. Ah, he's just standing there

46:30

staring. And. You'd turn around

46:32

and he be ladies oteri can I help

46:34

you. Oh yeah geo

46:36

my was just wondering. An.

46:40

Easy to ask the question and and you know of

46:42

whatever it in the ring. He. Could

46:44

still run the ropes. He could still do

46:46

the moves. He didn't hurt anybody. But.

46:49

The life was gone. The

46:51

personality, the. What

46:53

made him. Bam! Bam! You

46:55

know the again. And. A huge

46:58

city to run the ropes. still because in Knoxville

47:00

for the night. Alleges again I was there. The.

47:02

Music. Leonard. Skin or

47:05

free bird. And. He came out and he

47:07

got him a ring. And he

47:09

started running the ropes and for a second you

47:11

thought oh my god the old Terry Gordy's hear.

47:14

Ya. And wasn't even that long a period of time it been

47:16

a year. On. We got your is. And.

47:18

Then as soon as the match started, It.

47:21

Just wasn't. It. Wasn't connecting. Not

47:23

only was an automatic in the race, You

47:25

could tell was a connecting from his brain to

47:27

his body. couldn't. He. Couldn't make

47:29

it worth. Ganda.

47:32

Will. See, I mean obviously a very interesting

47:34

episode there when he was. Let's

47:38

see it as if six you

47:40

wouldn't He was eighteen years old

47:42

and Bobby Eden was twenty years

47:44

old. They were both working for

47:46

Nick. Ghoulish. And they

47:49

were probably better at that point

47:51

than half the guys were going

47:53

for Gym Crockett or Vince Mcmahon.

47:57

And. just nobody knew it yet

47:59

and then suddenly Gordy

48:02

finally gets to... Here

48:04

in Memphis, you could see more people saw

48:06

it, but then you got to Louisiana and

48:09

it's like, here, he's a teenager, he's main event

48:12

in the fucking Superdome. And

48:14

Bobby took a little bit longer because

48:16

he didn't have the... Honestly, the guy

48:18

like this... The Michael Hayes. Well, he didn't have

48:20

the size and the promo and he didn't have

48:22

the tag team partner, the mouth, you

48:25

know. The mouth more than a tag team partner, because the

48:27

first thing Watts did was say, I'm getting this guy out

48:29

of the ring. I'm getting Buddy

48:31

Roberts. Yeah.

48:33

But anyway, but that's... So

48:36

I'll look forward to seeing that one on Terry.

48:39

You mentioned that there would be no Vince McMahon on

48:41

this season of Dark Side of the Ring. Technically, I

48:43

guess it would be here, an episode

48:45

on Black Saturday when Vince

48:47

McMahon and the World Wrestling Federation tightened

48:50

sports purchase Georgia Championship Wrestling and

48:52

the TBS time slot in 1984. Yes,

48:55

Black Saturday was before at the

48:58

condo, they had Brown Tuesday, I guess.

49:02

Too soon? I'll stay away from

49:04

it. Too soon. But

49:07

Black Saturday, obviously, as you just mentioned,

49:10

that was the first real shockwave

49:14

in the War of 84 that

49:16

everybody said, oh, holy shit. When

49:19

Vince took over the TBS time slot

49:21

by buying out the Briscoes, the other

49:24

shareholders and, you know, everybody

49:26

but Oly, who suddenly became

49:28

without a wrestling

49:30

promotion in Georgia. And the

49:32

story behind that, that it, you know, short

49:36

version, we've talked about it. The show

49:38

was a flop. The people wanted their

49:40

Gordon Sully wrestling back. But

49:42

since there was a contract and blah,

49:45

blah, blah, Turner almost got into

49:48

partnership with Bill Watts to get Mid-South

49:50

wrestling onto TBS. But it was on

49:52

TBS. It was to buy into the

49:54

company and continue on TBS. Yeah, I'm

49:56

sorry. I did misstate and you are

49:59

correct. Don't, don't. rub it in. Um,

50:01

but to become more of a, more

50:04

of a partner and a, you know,

50:06

supporter of Mid-South wrestling, when Jim

50:09

Crockett ended up paying a million dollars

50:12

to Vince McMahon and buying the time

50:14

slot, saving Turner the money

50:17

and the effort and putting NWA

50:19

wrestling back on TBS, but that

50:22

was one of the major

50:24

cash payments that Vince got that he

50:26

was able to finance the

50:29

first WrestleMania with, you know, not

50:31

too long afterwards, along with the booking fee

50:33

from Inoki in New Japan.

50:37

So that will be the, uh, I'm

50:39

sure people will be looking at it with

50:42

new eyes now, but that's the, uh, the

50:44

program's topic. And

50:46

the topic is great too, cause you get Oli

50:48

Anderson involved. And there's that famous story that Oli

50:50

told where there was a meeting amongst the

50:53

board members of Georgia Championship Wrestling.

50:55

Vince was now the head

50:57

of the board. And even

51:00

with all this happening, Vince is, according

51:03

to Oli, Vince was still trying to get Oli to

51:05

come work for the World Wrestling Federation. This

51:08

doesn't have to be a fight. Come work for me. And

51:10

Oli said, go fuck yourself. And

51:13

then Vince, the next time brought Linda and he

51:15

said, Oli, I'd like to introduce you to my

51:17

wife, Linda. And Oli said, go fuck yourself and

51:19

fuck her too. And

51:23

then Vince said, you'll never work for the World

51:25

Wrestling Federation. Oh

51:29

my God. I don't know if Oli's in a condition where

51:31

he could talk on camera or anything, but oh, that'd be

51:33

great if they got to him for this. I

51:36

don't, I'm not sure to be honest with

51:38

you, whether by the time that they finished

51:40

the program, whether or not they were able

51:43

to do that, but he wanted the first goes to

51:45

make a blood oath with him. I

51:48

got it. I just say one thing

51:50

about, we in the

51:52

summer of 83, we were working for

51:54

Oli. Dundee liked Oli. Dundee always liked,

51:56

I think only liked Dundee because he,

51:59

you know, He fucking worked hard, he hustled,

52:01

he had good finishes, he's one of the boys,

52:03

right? But

52:05

Dundee, talking about Ollie's demeanor,

52:07

because even when Ollie

52:09

was being witty and sly and every

52:12

once in a while he'd laugh for

52:14

you, if it wasn't a show he

52:16

was running, if he

52:18

was just in the locker room, he'd laugh or he'd have

52:20

a little grin on his face. But

52:23

most of the time he came off as grumpy

52:25

Ollie, right? And

52:27

Dundee said, Ollie Henderson likes to

52:30

fuck but he don't like to come. He

52:33

just wants to fuck all the time, he

52:35

don't want to come, he just wants to

52:37

keep fucking, he's miserable. The

52:40

wisdom of Bill Dundee coming to bookstores soon.

52:45

Well that's Black Saturday, that will certainly be an interesting

52:47

one. Here's one that a lot of people certainly want

52:49

to hear what you had to say about, Chris

52:51

Colt. Well,

52:53

I believe I will have some input on this one

52:56

and I did have some of the only

52:59

existing footage of Chris Colt

53:01

from Tennessee at least and

53:03

somewhat of the prime

53:06

of his life and career. You

53:10

know we've talked about what

53:12

a fascinating story Chris Colt was

53:15

as a wrestler and a human being before

53:17

on the program on and off. I think

53:19

we had Dave Brzezinski, super

53:22

mouth himself on

53:25

the program one time talking about especially

53:27

the Michigan stories

53:30

of Chris Colt and they really

53:32

went back and tried to find

53:34

everybody they could and

53:37

went into as deeply as

53:39

they could into his roots in Arizona.

53:44

He was a fan

53:46

that wrote letters

53:48

to Tom Burke, our friend up in

53:51

Massachusetts, one of the early trading

53:54

fans and he

53:56

ended up pursuing his dream to be a

53:58

wrestler. becoming tag

54:00

team partners with Don Fargo and

54:03

then ending up being probably

54:06

one of the only people in wrestling that

54:08

there are weirder stories about than Don Fargo

54:10

and being kind

54:12

of an enigma that he

54:14

was such a great worker, but he was

54:16

so self-destructive and the

54:19

weird shit he did in his life

54:21

both both positive and negative whether it

54:23

be you know

54:25

a roadie for Joe Cocker or

54:27

fucking you know dying

54:30

of AIDS in a homeless shelter and

54:33

everything in between so I hope that

54:36

they'll be able to for once and at least

54:40

Put everything down in one place where we

54:42

can figure out at least what was bullshit

54:44

and what wouldn't and sort through it But

54:47

what a fucking worker in his day when he

54:49

was When he was fucked up

54:51

in the right kind of way because he told people

54:53

he never worked sober he couldn't But

54:56

when he was on the right shit He

54:58

was incredible Here there's that famous

55:00

story where he was in a cage match and he ate a

55:02

bunch of acid and he thought Spiders were coming into the cage

55:04

to get him and he left the cage and ran away I

55:07

believe I will be voicing over that

55:09

reenactment. I just have a feeling That

55:13

that might happen Well, we will

55:15

see what happens on the Chris Colt episode

55:18

another episode of Dark Side of the Ring

55:20

this upcoming season Jim the Sandman And

55:23

this one obviously I didn't have any

55:25

input in because I've met the Sandman

55:27

Obviously way back when he was the

55:29

Sandman with a surfboard and the nose

55:31

tape or whatever working for Dennis Corluso

55:35

But obviously I wasn't around during

55:37

his ECW heyday You

55:40

know I'm

55:43

not knocking him. I think maybe he

55:45

realizes this I said wasn't that was

55:47

one of those ECW kind of gimmicks

55:49

wasn't it that You

55:52

can't really take that out of that gimmick.

55:54

Yeah, you couldn't take that and put

55:56

it in any other presentation and And

56:01

it would work, let's just say. Well,

56:04

the one I said that was a little puzzling on this

56:06

list, Jim, a lot of people have been trying to figure

56:08

out what's the dark side of this story, Earthquake

56:12

John Tenta. You know,

56:14

I'm not involved in the episode and I

56:16

haven't seen any advanced copies, so I

56:19

would have to think that

56:21

it was just the fact that he, you know,

56:24

passed away young from

56:26

illness. How's

56:29

that the dark side of the ring? Well,

56:32

because he couldn't get in the ring

56:34

anymore because he was dead. I don't,

56:36

you know, don't fucking goddamn blister me

56:38

for this. Maybe they just, goddamn, they

56:40

got a story to tell. They

56:42

got a song they want to sing, Brian. Let him

56:44

sing it. He left Sumo to

56:46

go to all Japan. Then

56:48

he came to the WWF as Earthquake. He had

56:51

the shoot thing with Koji

56:53

Katao and S.W.S. And

56:57

then he was Golga. He was

56:59

a shark. And then he was gone, gone. I

57:02

don't know what the, again, we'll see. This is an interesting

57:04

one. Everyone's kind of wondering what the dark side is. Well,

57:08

after you, we got to tune in and find out, don't we?

57:11

Another episode people will be

57:13

potentially tuning into, Harley Race.

57:18

And this is one I, honestly,

57:20

I've commented on Harley. I

57:23

don't expect to be in the

57:25

episode because I wasn't instrumental in any

57:27

way in his life or career. But

57:30

this is again something I'm just looking so forward

57:32

to just to get for

57:34

the opportunity for a more modern audience

57:36

to be forced to

57:38

sit down and watch some fucking clips of Harley Race.

57:40

Does that make any sense? I

57:43

just want more people to see the stuff

57:45

they're going to dig up that's going to paint him

57:47

in a more positive light than maybe his WCW

57:50

managing run in 1993 or whatever. Again,

57:53

this isn't biography. This is dark side of the ring. I

57:55

don't think they're going to be painting a bit of positive

57:57

light. They're going to find some scandal. with

58:00

and what do you know? No, they're not

58:03

gonna have to find anything, they're all out

58:05

there. I mean as far as the a

58:07

positive light, the clips of Harley and his

58:09

prime and people talking about him, his contemporaries,

58:12

but let's face it, you

58:15

know, there were problems he had.

58:17

He had the fucking boat accident,

58:19

he lost lawsuits and you

58:22

know he had a life

58:24

of peaks and valleys but I don't think

58:26

you're gonna get any of the boys to

58:28

comment in this program

58:30

on anything other than a positive look

58:34

at Harley. And also

58:36

with Dark Side of the Ring, they've

58:38

done many of the darker stories and

58:40

Vince came out after their season

58:43

of editing was over with. So let

58:46

them tell some stories for fuck's sake.

58:50

I want Harley Race on TV in

58:52

2024, I don't care how it happens.

58:55

Well let's see how it happens, we shall

58:58

see. Now another question before we wrap up

59:00

with the other two episodes, is Chris Jericho

59:02

still the narrator of this thing? Well that

59:04

might yet to be determined, I haven't seen

59:06

any clips that would indicate either way, have

59:08

you? I haven't but I haven't

59:11

seen anything to say that he's not going

59:13

to be involved and it's a little awkward

59:15

considering. Maybe he'll recuse himself when they get

59:17

to his episode. Well I

59:19

guess we'll find out. What would it

59:21

be like if he did the voice

59:23

service? And then I had

59:26

a super spreader on my cruise ship. Well

59:29

Jim, another episode of Dark Side of the Ring

59:32

coming up this season, Buff

59:34

Bagwell. And

59:36

I think we've all got to look forward to this

59:39

because we're gonna

59:41

separate the fact from the fiction

59:43

and the rumor from the innuendo

59:45

and the wacky

59:47

stories from the wacky facts and I

59:50

think we're even gonna hear from Buff

59:52

himself on exactly why he was indeed

59:54

at one time the stuff. Alright

59:57

that expert analysis was funny.

1:00:00

And finally Jim, the last episode listed here for the

1:00:02

season of Dark Side of the Ring coming up, Brutus

1:00:05

Beefcake. And

1:00:07

I've seen again one of the

1:00:09

early clips on one of the previews

1:00:12

of this one where he says, yeah,

1:00:14

so they didn't know what

1:00:16

to do. They had my face in their hands

1:00:18

or whatever. Obviously

1:00:21

I think Brutus is still alive and with

1:00:23

us, so this is not a real dark

1:00:25

side, but it was a dark, it

1:00:27

was a dark, dark day that happened to

1:00:29

him when that woman caved his fucking face

1:00:31

in. That's what happens when

1:00:33

you party with Brian Blair. Well,

1:00:36

you know, and that's another thing. Why the fuck do

1:00:38

people want to get in the ocean? What

1:00:41

the fuck? Do you know how big the ocean

1:00:43

is? And do you know

1:00:45

how powerful the currents are and

1:00:49

the riptides and the waves and the...

1:00:51

Well, you're flying Brian Aloha from

1:00:54

Hawaii, from

1:00:56

Oahu or whatever.

1:00:59

Hawaiian Brian, you know this. Why

1:01:03

do people want to get out in the ocean?

1:01:05

I'm not stepping foot in a fucking ocean farther

1:01:08

than up to my knees to just

1:01:10

walk in the cool sand. Those

1:01:13

people that want to swim in the ocean, well,

1:01:15

fuck you, they may never find you again. I'm

1:01:17

going over here to the community swimming pool and

1:01:19

get chlamydia with the rest of the folks. Brutus

1:01:21

B. King wasn't in the ocean. He wasn't even

1:01:24

trying to swim. He was trying to parasail. He

1:01:26

was getting ready to in a woman's... Well, don't

1:01:28

you have to be in the ocean to parasail?

1:01:31

Or was he getting ready to or was it just that the woman

1:01:33

that was parasailing hit him in the face? Well,

1:01:35

how would a fucking somebody parasailing hit

1:01:38

somebody in a fucking face if somebody

1:01:40

wasn't in the water in which they

1:01:42

were parasailing over? He was like standing

1:01:44

on a dock or something. I'm just

1:01:46

having a flight by the knees of

1:01:48

the head. If

1:01:51

she's fucking flying over the fucking

1:01:53

dock at that velocity, at that

1:01:55

low of a goddamn altitude, there

1:01:57

may have been other issues. Wouldn't

1:01:59

it? What the hell? We gotta

1:02:01

tune in and find out what the details are.

1:02:04

Do they have footage? This woman was flying by,

1:02:06

she gave him the Clearwater Beach trigger right to

1:02:08

his face. We'll

1:02:13

see the reenactment and then we'll know.

1:02:15

I think what people are looking, well

1:02:18

not looking forward to, but they're wondering if the wife, Misty

1:02:21

or Missy, whatever her name is. Is

1:02:24

that his manager? He has

1:02:26

a wife for this beefcake who apparently makes

1:02:28

a lot of outlandish comments so people are

1:02:30

waiting to see if... She was on one

1:02:32

of these other programs that was identified as

1:02:35

his manager. Oh, Missy

1:02:37

Beefcake. Man, I

1:02:39

just saw... and I hadn't seen this

1:02:41

in a few years so I popped. Jimmy

1:02:43

Valient just did some autograph shows somewhere, I

1:02:46

guess before an actual wrestling show and he sets up,

1:02:48

he has his table and all his gimmicks. And

1:02:50

he has a giant poster behind him. Come

1:02:53

meet legendary wrestler, WWE

1:02:55

Hall of Famer, Jimmy Valient, and

1:02:58

world-renowned manager, Captain

1:03:00

Joe. And I

1:03:02

saw this years ago and I'm like, oh my god,

1:03:04

I can't believe he's still with Captain Joe, whoever this

1:03:07

guy is. And it's just like a guy

1:03:09

in a funny outfit with glasses, just

1:03:11

some guy drives Jimmy Valient and became Captain

1:03:13

Joe, the world-renowned man. Yeah,

1:03:17

that's because everybody knows

1:03:19

handsome Jimmy doesn't drive

1:03:22

often and hadn't probably

1:03:25

since the 70s. And

1:03:27

he'll usually ride upfront shotgun

1:03:29

in the passenger seat but

1:03:31

there's generally... And there have

1:03:34

been other captains and majors and whoever that

1:03:36

have managed him in the past but they

1:03:38

all involve around a guy that's going to

1:03:40

drive the car and then put on an

1:03:42

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1:03:45

he gives attention at Walmart to come over to the table and buy some

1:03:47

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1:03:49

he's world famous. World-renowned. Not

1:03:53

even famous. He's renowned. People think highly

1:03:55

of him. But back to

1:03:57

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1:04:00

obviously. And then at

1:04:03

some point he was working for

1:04:05

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1:04:07

he was in the subway and he was doing

1:04:09

cocaine, but they didn't know it was cocaine.

1:04:11

They just saw white powder. He

1:04:15

was at one of the fucking ticket

1:04:17

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1:04:19

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1:04:22

don't know how it works, but where the

1:04:24

ticket window or the tokens or whatever, he's

1:04:26

in the window, he leaves his cocaine. They

1:04:28

think it's goddamn tracks. They shut the whole

1:04:31

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1:04:34

that made some news. Get

1:04:37

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1:04:40

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Dave, Dave Meltzer, who seems

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to not be able to discern

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fact from fiction anymore

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and it's kind of blown up this week

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with this story that it sounds

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ridiculous to say

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it out loud but it happened, somebody

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sent Dave a clip

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of a video of Triple H

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and The Rock from like 10

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years ago doing

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a promo backstage somewhere

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and challenging each other or whatever like they

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were gonna fight at WrestleMania and told

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him it was like what this last week

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when they were in whatever town they were

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in doing the fucking deal right? Vegas. In

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Vegas and and he

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ran with it, he ran with

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the scoop all the way until

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he ran from the scoop when

1:11:07

everybody started laughing at him, they

1:11:09

sent him the video, they were

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10 years younger. I know

1:11:14

they're in good shape for their ages right

1:11:17

but there have been no changes, there's

1:11:19

been no changes in production, you couldn't

1:11:21

instantly tell if this is your line

1:11:23

of work, this is your business to

1:11:25

cover this stuff that this was 10

1:11:28

years ago? Well why

1:11:30

don't we spell it out for the listeners because what

1:11:33

happened was after everything like you said that happened

1:11:35

in Vegas, Dave Meltzer in the Observer put and

1:11:38

this is on page 4 for anyone who has

1:11:40

a... Wait, an unredacted copy

1:11:43

because we'll get to that later, it

1:11:45

don't say this no more. The

1:11:48

storyline they are doing now is

1:11:50

that Johnson as a member of the board

1:11:52

of directors is seemingly in a battle for

1:11:54

power with Paul Lavec, the

1:11:57

COO, who is now going

1:11:59

as Paul... Triple H Leveque, even

1:12:01

on television. At

1:12:04

the Mania Press Conference on February 8th

1:12:06

in Las Vegas, Leveque

1:12:08

talked about guys going into business

1:12:10

for themselves, with the

1:12:12

idea Rock was going against the planned

1:12:14

script. Later they

1:12:17

filmed a segment which

1:12:19

didn't air on television, but

1:12:21

was all over social media,

1:12:23

all over social media, where

1:12:26

Leveque and Rock went nose to nose

1:12:28

and actually challenged each other for a

1:12:31

match at Mania. Although

1:12:33

it was they would

1:12:35

love to each other. Hold

1:12:39

on, I swear to god this is

1:12:41

how it's written. Although it was they

1:12:43

would love to each other before a

1:12:45

giant cried at WrestleMania. That is

1:12:51

what it says, right? About having a stroke. Come

1:12:54

on people now, smile on your

1:12:56

brother, everybody love each other. Although

1:13:00

it was they would love each other before a

1:13:02

giant cried at WrestleMania. Without

1:13:11

the idea, it was this

1:13:13

specific one. Given

1:13:16

Leveque's heart issues, such

1:13:18

a match would seem to be impossible. And

1:13:21

virtually everyone believed that to be the case.

1:13:25

The fact it was never put on

1:13:27

television says it

1:13:29

was not something they wanted to hammer home

1:13:31

as a storyline. And more was

1:13:33

a way to make people think that the

1:13:35

two weren't getting along with

1:13:38

the idea that aspect of

1:13:40

the angle was real and real as in

1:13:42

quotes. It was

1:13:44

10 years ago, it was on one of these

1:13:48

reunion show or the raw legends come

1:13:50

back or whatever and they did 10

1:13:52

years ago. He

1:13:55

thought it was last Tuesday. I guess Vince is booking

1:13:57

again. I want you guys to make love to What

1:14:00

the fuck? What was Dave writing there?

1:14:02

I think he left out the word

1:14:05

fight, but it

1:14:07

led to even more confusion than he

1:14:09

was already suffering. Because,

1:14:14

again, the main part of the story is

1:14:17

people said, what? What is he talking about

1:14:19

and come to find out? It's

1:14:22

a clip that they did 10 years ago

1:14:24

that he was referring to, and it probably

1:14:26

did air on TV back then. Was there

1:14:28

a fucking social media there?

1:14:30

Whatever the fuck. Point is. So

1:14:34

he wrote that and sent his

1:14:38

publication out to its consumers,

1:14:43

and then people apparently, I don't

1:14:47

know, called attention to what the fuck? Because

1:14:49

on its face it didn't read like

1:14:52

something that would have happened. And

1:14:55

then instead of – well,

1:14:59

I don't know whether he could

1:15:01

– obviously we now know he

1:15:03

can go back and change the issue. Instead

1:15:06

of putting correction, this

1:15:08

was originally reported, but blah, blah,

1:15:10

blah, he just deleted

1:15:12

it. He just – it ain't there

1:15:14

no more. You

1:15:18

know, every day on the wrestling news, if there's

1:15:20

anything we get wrong, we have a section called

1:15:22

corrections where we'll say, we'll point out anything even

1:15:24

if it's minor that we got wrong. That's

1:15:26

all you have to do there. We

1:15:28

had previously reported this. That

1:15:31

was reported in error. Explain

1:15:33

yourself. Apologize. That's it. And

1:15:36

is he going to do it in next

1:15:38

week's issue? It would seem that

1:15:40

if he can go back and change the

1:15:42

issue that's currently out, even – he couldn't

1:15:44

take it back from what he had sent

1:15:46

out, but on his sources

1:15:50

or site or board or however the fucking

1:15:52

kids get this thing, you can't find it

1:15:54

any more written like that. That whole part's

1:15:57

been deleted. But

1:15:59

he – He

1:16:01

obviously... Brian, you

1:16:05

just saw these fucking guys and what they

1:16:07

look like this goddamn week. How could you

1:16:09

fall for a ten-year-old fucking video? Triple

1:16:12

H looks a lot younger and he had no beard. Or

1:16:14

at least nothing to speak of like he does now where

1:16:16

it's a long one. And the

1:16:18

Rock looks like he's three times the size

1:16:21

as he used to be. Yeah, right there

1:16:23

you know, but we're in modern

1:16:25

times. The Rock is 50. He's gotta be twice as big

1:16:27

as he was when he was 40. But

1:16:32

this is not, I

1:16:34

guess, the first time. Well, we talked about on

1:16:37

one of the programs we did recently, Dave's

1:16:40

confusion and or just

1:16:43

blurting stuff out without getting to the root

1:16:45

of it here lately. And

1:16:48

where he had to come back

1:16:50

at the week after he wrote that the morale

1:16:52

in the AEW locker room

1:16:54

has never been greater. He came back

1:16:57

the following week and let me just

1:16:59

add that everybody's scared shitless

1:17:01

that they're all going under. But what the...

1:17:04

Yeah, they all get along as

1:17:06

well as they ever have. It's just collectively they're

1:17:08

all miserable. Yes. And

1:17:12

then apparently... With

1:17:17

the sudden and abrupt severing

1:17:20

of Scott DeMoor from TNA land,

1:17:25

well, Dave was right there on the spot

1:17:27

reporting that, well, now Tommy Dreamer will be

1:17:29

the head of creative. But

1:17:34

that declaration apparently was denied

1:17:37

by Tommy Dreamer who

1:17:39

said, no, I'm not running anything. What are you talking about?

1:17:43

Why didn't you call me, Dave? That's all you have

1:17:45

to say. Why didn't you call me and ask me?

1:17:49

Are people now just

1:17:52

sending him stuff to see how far he'll go

1:17:54

with printing shit, whether there's anything to it or

1:17:56

not, or is he just looking

1:17:59

for it? losing his ability

1:18:01

to differentiate fact from fiction these

1:18:04

days. I don't

1:18:06

know because the Triple H rock thing, he specifically cited

1:18:08

that it was all over social media. So we don't

1:18:10

know if anyone sent that to him or if he

1:18:12

just bumped into it online and thought it was in

1:18:14

the moment. With

1:18:16

the DNA story, you can fact check

1:18:18

that pretty simply, can you? And

1:18:22

again, DeMors, he was

1:18:24

president of TNA, even if he had

1:18:26

his hand in everything, it

1:18:29

would change nothing about the creative

1:18:32

team. If the president, they would

1:18:34

still be working under someone. And

1:18:37

then if they weren't fired, they would still be in the

1:18:39

same positions they were in. Would they not? It's

1:18:42

not, you know, it's not like a fucking, you

1:18:46

got it. Oh, Colonel Mustard got

1:18:48

him with a fucking candlestick in the drawing

1:18:50

room. So now you're it. Well,

1:18:53

again, Dave reported that Tommy Dreamer was

1:18:55

taking over as the head of TNA's

1:18:58

creative team. Tommy

1:19:00

Dreamer came out and said

1:19:02

that that isn't true. Nothing's

1:19:04

really changing. He's involved with it.

1:19:06

Delirious is still involved with it. Robert

1:19:09

Evans, whoever that is, not the famous

1:19:11

Robert Evans. No, actually

1:19:13

I know this, this Robert Evans, he's a nice

1:19:15

young man. He came to one of our ring

1:19:17

of honor camps years ago, uh, apparently

1:19:20

got into the writing aspect was not a,

1:19:23

was not a bodybuilder par excellence

1:19:25

or a giant or anything like that. Just

1:19:27

a normal physique, I think was his drawback,

1:19:30

but it'd be nice. Was he real Robert

1:19:32

Evans? I did. Well, then

1:19:34

at least the, uh, I told him to go

1:19:36

fuck himself and then I hired Russo. It'd

1:19:39

be a more cinematic approach to things. But

1:19:41

if they knew what they were doing, uh,

1:19:45

delirious would be the head of creative,

1:19:47

but nevertheless, well,

1:19:49

apparently the new head of a whole bunch

1:19:51

of names here, former general

1:19:54

manager of the fight network or fight

1:19:56

network. If there's no, the aerial

1:19:58

snur or shit. Shneerer. Forgive

1:20:02

me, Ariel. Shneerer? S-H-N-E-R-E-R.

1:20:10

E-I-E-I-O. Shneerer.

1:20:14

Maybe. Ariel Shneerer will

1:20:16

oversee all content and work closely with

1:20:18

the newly appointed TNA president, Anthony

1:20:23

Chichione? I don't know

1:20:25

who any of these fucking people are. Wait

1:20:27

a minute, he's the one... No,

1:20:29

that guy... Chichione? He's

1:20:33

the one that did the soundtrack for all those

1:20:35

spaghetti westerns with Clint Eastwood. And

1:20:38

again, the former general manager of

1:20:40

the Fight Network and Mr.

1:20:42

Chichione will be working together on

1:20:44

all talent and creative decisions. That's

1:20:48

why everybody over there is writing letters. What

1:20:51

the fuck? Who are

1:20:53

these people as like letting Cornet make

1:20:55

decisions at NASA? What

1:20:58

the fuck? Has

1:21:00

anybody ever heard of these fucking people before?

1:21:03

How are they supposed to evaluate? I'm

1:21:07

not a judge on the goddamn...

1:21:12

Now I've lost the goddamn singing

1:21:14

contest. American Idol, thank you. I'm

1:21:16

old. I'm not a judge on

1:21:19

American Idol. Because I

1:21:21

don't know how to judge people singing because

1:21:23

I don't know anything about singing except I'm

1:21:25

a talented amateur. You know nothing about singing,

1:21:28

we could agree on that. Except I'm a

1:21:30

talented amateur. You could stop it, know nothing

1:21:32

about singing. Well, I could choose to continue

1:21:34

but nevertheless, how

1:21:38

are they going to be head of

1:21:40

creative or making decisions about who are

1:21:42

the good wrestlers? I don't understand

1:21:45

why any of these companies think

1:21:47

that something like that will work.

1:21:50

You don't... I'm

1:21:53

not going to take my car to

1:21:55

have the engine overhauled by a goddamn

1:21:57

Drowwall guy. Right? got

1:22:00

their purpose and everybody's got their

1:22:02

speciality. But

1:22:06

is it wrong that I think it's less

1:22:08

scary that these guys would have a hand

1:22:10

in booking that Tommy dreamer would have a

1:22:12

hand in booking? Unfortunately, no. Um, it's

1:22:15

not wrong to think that because he,

1:22:18

I mentioned booked OVW for five weeks

1:22:20

while I was on the wrong

1:22:22

side of John Laurinaitis one time. And,

1:22:24

and even the boys standing there doing the show

1:22:26

couldn't understand what the fuck was going on. And

1:22:29

as a matter of fact, with every book to

1:22:31

his last show, I was coming back the next week.

1:22:34

Danny Davis, he had created some mystery

1:22:36

and Danny Davis said, well, wait a

1:22:38

minute. How's this going to fucking Andy? So I mean,

1:22:40

you guys, you take it from there. What

1:22:43

the fuck? But

1:22:45

nevertheless, I've learning from Heyman. That's what that

1:22:48

is. Well, and that's back

1:22:50

when everybody in

1:22:52

those days, they're all that cornet. He

1:22:54

just can't get along with that big

1:22:57

executive John Laurinaitis. It's all cornet's

1:22:59

fault. He's a fucking hot head.

1:23:01

Yeah. Anyway,

1:23:05

nevertheless, um, you can't,

1:23:08

you can't expect the boys to have

1:23:10

any confidence when someone who is in

1:23:13

charge of what they're going

1:23:15

to be doing on television as themselves

1:23:17

that it affects them and they get

1:23:19

that shit, they get it on them

1:23:21

and has never

1:23:23

been in charge or even involved

1:23:26

in any of that particular area

1:23:28

of endeavor before in their fucking life.

1:23:32

Is, are they, are they going to come in

1:23:34

and say, okay, creative team, you

1:23:37

be creative and just call us if you

1:23:39

need us. But

1:23:41

it's not really a leader or somebody

1:23:43

that's going to fucking give

1:23:45

them a direction of something. And

1:23:48

you have to wonder if the reaction from

1:23:50

talent would be what it was if Scott

1:23:52

DeMoure was replaced by someone who was considered

1:23:54

a wrestling person, maybe someone they had worked

1:23:56

with either elevate delirious, like you said, or

1:23:59

there you go. or someone who

1:24:01

has anything resembling a qualification

1:24:04

for the job. If

1:24:06

they knew that all of a sudden it was going

1:24:08

to be two people from Anthem corporate put

1:24:11

in charge of the wrestling company, I can understand why people

1:24:13

would be a little upset about that. And

1:24:16

again, I mean, there is, it's never

1:24:19

happened in actual fact, as

1:24:21

Adrian Street used to say, it's never

1:24:23

happened, but there is always the possibility

1:24:25

that they could do the smart thing

1:24:28

and say, okay, we

1:24:30

own a wrestling company. We will oversee

1:24:32

you people, but you do the fucking

1:24:34

wrestling. And as long as the returns

1:24:38

are somewhat positive in whatever

1:24:40

metrics they're using, their financials,

1:24:42

et cetera, then

1:24:44

do what you're

1:24:46

doing and explain it to us

1:24:49

as we go along and do you need another

1:24:51

star, how much will that cost? What that type

1:24:53

of thing, but they've all,

1:24:56

they all get the wrestling bug or

1:24:58

they all think they're going to be,

1:25:00

they're either going to be Jim heard and they're

1:25:02

going to fucking show these goddamn wild

1:25:05

gypsies how to fucking be business

1:25:07

people or they're

1:25:10

the kip fries and mark out

1:25:13

for the performers and pay them twice as

1:25:15

much as they should get to do the

1:25:17

job they were hired for to

1:25:19

begin with. Well, if we're supposed to believe

1:25:22

what we've been hearing, it may

1:25:24

be the opposite because it sounds like one of

1:25:26

Scott DeMora's issues and we don't know exactly what

1:25:28

the reason is still was

1:25:30

he wanted them to increase the budget. And

1:25:33

to be honest, no matter what company you are, if

1:25:36

you want to compete right now for talent, for

1:25:39

good talent, you're competing

1:25:41

against Tony Khan who throws money against the

1:25:43

wall, doesn't give a shit. And

1:25:46

then anyone else, if they want to be on a big stage, you

1:25:49

got WWE, but it's hard

1:25:51

to get talent right now. These guys may

1:25:53

be there to cut budget severely and

1:25:56

just say, you know what, we can get the same numbers and

1:25:58

have the same success. with

1:26:00

a cheaper roster. You don't know. No one

1:26:02

knows exactly what this will mean. Or

1:26:05

if it's just going to be everything holds steady forever. Or

1:26:09

they could, you know, by what's that

1:26:11

Discovery Network, the midget show is on,

1:26:13

they could say, well, hey, they're

1:26:15

doing better ratings than AEW. Did

1:26:18

you see that clip that someone sent on Twitter? I

1:26:20

saw it a few times, of

1:26:22

some of the action from that little

1:26:24

person wrestling company. These guys

1:26:27

could work. It was better than AEW. It

1:26:29

was like they were getting massive pops from

1:26:31

the audience for the simplest

1:26:33

things. It was incredible. Oh,

1:26:36

I was afraid to watch it because I

1:26:38

thought it'd be a bunch of fucking tables

1:26:40

and garbage cans and shit. You mean it

1:26:42

was actually halfway good? I don't

1:26:44

know. Whatever I saw, and I'm sure now you'll

1:26:46

see it from a variety of places, the

1:26:50

crowd was going nuts for like a hip

1:26:52

toss. I

1:26:56

guess to wrap this up, we're talking about Dave Meltzer. Like

1:26:58

you said, it became a

1:27:00

story because he didn't acknowledge

1:27:02

it. He deleted it. We'll see if

1:27:04

he acknowledges it. The observer has to

1:27:06

be a different animal. It's hard to

1:27:08

just do now a weekly summation of

1:27:11

things, just like

1:27:13

we deal with the podcast. There's

1:27:15

so much happening. There's so

1:27:18

much happening. Well, he

1:27:20

could probably save about two or three

1:27:22

hours of his valuable

1:27:25

work time by not droning

1:27:27

on into detail every time some

1:27:29

independent girl wrestler in Japan farts.

1:27:33

That would be a time saving for him. He

1:27:36

could just stick to the goddamn meat of the matter

1:27:38

of what we're discussing in the

1:27:40

wrestling business here, but he does do a

1:27:42

lot of sub-genre, looking

1:27:44

very niche marketing for the dwindling

1:27:47

audience that he retains. So

1:27:49

I guess in summation, there

1:27:51

was no backstage angle filmed with Triple H and

1:27:54

The Rock to set up a match at WrestleMania.

1:27:56

AEW back.

1:28:00

backstage, they have

1:28:02

never gotten along better, and they've

1:28:04

also never been more unhappy collectively.

1:28:07

They're making good time, but they're hopelessly

1:28:10

lost. And finally, Tommy Dreamer is not

1:28:12

the new head of TNA Creative. Apparently

1:28:15

he was never even asked about it. Instead

1:28:19

it's Ariel Schnurr, who

1:28:22

I'm sure trained at the knee of Eddie

1:28:24

Graham. Well, that was the

1:28:26

update on a rough week for Dave Meltzer.

1:28:28

He was trending all week for the wrong reasons,

1:28:30

and I know it probably helps his business arguing

1:28:33

with people, and his argument is just like

1:28:36

throwing back questions at them, like in

1:28:38

a condescending manner. I don't really understand how

1:28:40

productive that is, but it's

1:28:43

hard to justify that shit when you're getting

1:28:45

all this shit wrong in The Observer. Well,

1:28:49

and you talked about Tony

1:28:51

Khan promotes by throwing money at the

1:28:53

wall, and Dave, he appeals

1:28:55

to this dwindling audience who primarily

1:28:58

he has created of the fans of

1:29:00

the buckaroos and their ilk, and he

1:29:03

throws shit at the wall to

1:29:05

see if anything sticks. You

1:29:07

know what? A lot of people

1:29:09

today, Brian, in this uncertain economy, they're

1:29:12

throwing shit against the wall to see if it

1:29:14

sticks. Sometimes

1:29:16

it sticks and sometimes it bounces back, but you

1:29:18

know what they say? If

1:29:20

you throw money at the wall and it

1:29:22

don't bounce back, you go

1:29:24

hungry, which is exactly

1:29:26

why you should have an online store

1:29:29

with Shopify, because

1:29:32

Shopify... Yeah. How'd you

1:29:34

get there? Yes. Yes, I agree

1:29:36

with that. Well, talking about making money after you throw it up

1:29:38

against the wall to see if it bounces back. And

1:29:41

a lot of people these days are going hungry. Well,

1:29:44

you're going to be bouncing all over the

1:29:46

walls if you get hooked up with Shopify

1:29:48

folks as partners, because think

1:29:50

about the team, the Venus and

1:29:52

Serena, Pippin and Jordan, Gronk and

1:29:54

Brady, Buckwinkle and Stevens, the

1:29:57

perfect teammates down through the years

1:29:59

when to business, that's

1:30:01

you and Shopify. Wait a minute, hold

1:30:03

on here. There you go. It says

1:30:05

I gotta put a sound effect in.

1:30:09

And that's the thing. Shopify is

1:30:11

the global commerce platform that helps

1:30:13

you sell at every stage of

1:30:15

your business, all the way from

1:30:17

the conception stage to the actualization

1:30:19

stage and then to

1:30:21

the realization stage and then to

1:30:23

the penalization stage and finally to

1:30:25

the criminalization stage and then

1:30:28

to the sentencing stage. They'll

1:30:30

be with you every step of the way

1:30:32

until you hit the big house and they

1:30:34

turn around to find somebody else to partner

1:30:36

with. Shopify helps you

1:30:38

turn browsers into buyers with

1:30:41

the internet's best converting checkout

1:30:43

which is up to 36% better compared to other

1:30:47

leading commerce platforms. Do

1:30:49

you know? Brian, if

1:30:51

you have Shopify and somebody

1:30:53

buys an item on your

1:30:56

store for $10, it

1:30:58

automatically jacks it up 36% and

1:31:01

you get actually $10 plus $3.60, you get $13. It says 36%

1:31:04

better. There

1:31:08

is no jacking up of anything behind the

1:31:11

scenes or behind the fact of the consumer.

1:31:13

It converts the checkout. So once the consumer

1:31:15

pays and they just drain another 36% of

1:31:17

the internet. No, we should not phrase it

1:31:19

like that. They're

1:31:23

not draining anything and you friends

1:31:25

won't be drained of anything when

1:31:27

you use Shopify to power your

1:31:29

small business. They are there to help you.

1:31:31

Yes. You have a small business. You have a small

1:31:33

staff. They're there to almost be like

1:31:35

an entire staff. Yes. But they're not

1:31:37

there. They're not there.

1:31:40

He wasn't even there. But

1:31:43

it's up to 36% better. So you

1:31:45

got that going and Shopify powers 10%

1:31:47

of all e-commerce

1:31:49

in the United States. So

1:31:52

right there, they're hooked up one out of 10 people

1:31:54

you see walking down the street. They're

1:31:56

under the Shopify banner. So you can just

1:31:58

walk up and exchange the... the secret

1:32:00

handshake and then you guys can

1:32:02

start talking business because they're going to know yours and

1:32:04

you're going to know theirs because you're all in this

1:32:07

together and Shopify's

1:32:09

extensive help resources are there to support

1:32:11

your success every step of the way.

1:32:13

They can refer you to the

1:32:16

best criminal defense attorneys. They

1:32:18

can tell you which officials in your town

1:32:20

that need to be paid off once that

1:32:22

this whole scam comes to light. I'm

1:32:25

telling you businesses

1:32:27

that grow, grow with Shopify. Yes.

1:32:30

If they're not with Shopify, Shopify will lay the

1:32:33

hammer down on you and you won't get any

1:32:35

bigger because they take a dim view of people

1:32:37

trying to compete with them. You won't get any

1:32:39

bigger. Get on their side. They will leave you

1:32:42

alone if you're not working with them. They are

1:32:44

not hound you or any kind of harassers or

1:32:46

anything. You won't know it's them. But God damn

1:32:48

it. I'm

1:32:51

just telling you, if you don't have them on

1:32:53

your side, you don't have a good looking future,

1:32:55

you better not wear shades. But right

1:32:58

now you can find out what I'm talking about.

1:33:01

Just as easy as pie right now, if you set up

1:33:03

for a $1 a month

1:33:05

trial period at shopify.com/JCE in

1:33:07

the lowercase letters is what

1:33:10

they are. And

1:33:12

if you go to shopify.com, they're gonna tell you

1:33:14

everything there that they can do for you. Whether

1:33:16

you like it or not. If they tell you

1:33:19

you need something done by God, you

1:33:21

just tell them handle this. I don't know what I'm doing.

1:33:24

And they'll tell you it's a dollar a month. So

1:33:26

what the fuck? You can pick that up off the

1:33:29

God damn street. Go through the

1:33:31

couch cushions, ladies and gentlemen, and

1:33:33

launch your new business courtesy

1:33:36

of shopify.com/JC. You got

1:33:38

to slash JCE in

1:33:41

all lowercase or else wise you won't get the

1:33:43

dollar deal. shopify.com/JCE

1:33:45

to grow

1:33:48

your business no matter what stage you're in,

1:33:50

because they're going to make you all

1:33:56

right. They certainly will Shopify our friends and

1:33:58

they can help you. Don't

1:34:00

get on the wrong side of these be they've

1:34:02

got some fucking guys that have come see you

1:34:04

set them up today. Money.

1:34:08

Oh my God. You know what? Before we talk

1:34:11

about the wrestling programs I've realized we got this

1:34:13

far the show and I haven't given the people

1:34:15

in update Some of the people out there the

1:34:17

Coast of Cornet have sent me their money. And

1:34:21

they need to know where their products

1:34:23

are. The as they do not envy

1:34:25

Yes, the Midnight Express it Heavenly Bodies

1:34:27

at shouldn't figured tag team sets that

1:34:29

went on sale on February the tenth

1:34:32

last week. As my fact last weekend.

1:34:35

Ah, the first several hundred pictures have

1:34:37

already been signed by yours truly and

1:34:39

I mentioned. Hotchkiss, Has

1:34:41

a illness in a family but he still

1:34:43

at. He's a trooper and a warrior. And.

1:34:46

This week. He's. Going to be

1:34:48

picking these pictures up and packing things and

1:34:51

by the following next weekend. What is that?

1:34:53

Twenty fifth? This? your whatever. The.

1:34:55

First, a couple of hundred. Packages.

1:34:58

Should be ready to go out. And

1:35:01

we will continue doing that until everyone

1:35:03

has their merchandise which is still available.

1:35:06

At Gym cornet.com The Eaten and

1:35:08

Condrey version the And and Lane

1:35:10

version. Or stay in Lane

1:35:12

A Doctor Tom Pritchard the heavily bodies as

1:35:15

well as the last few hundred of the

1:35:17

Midnight Express four packs. right?

1:35:19

Now Gym corner.com with all of them

1:35:21

come with an autographed picture. We mentioned

1:35:23

that. Some. Of them come

1:35:25

with the Milestones Midnight Express Booklet. And.

1:35:29

All of them. Suitable.

1:35:31

For displaying on your

1:35:33

collectives shelves when they

1:35:35

beautiful display boxes. That's.

1:35:38

What I'm talking about? That's right, as a

1:35:41

collective, shells will never be more full than

1:35:43

they will once they have all of these.

1:35:45

Yeah. Many many many Midnight

1:35:47

Express members. and there are

1:35:50

many many many figures everybody's were indifferent shit

1:35:52

noli sets to by the way the outfits

1:35:54

are all different and you to wear whatever

1:35:56

you want to buy them today a gym

1:35:58

corner dot tom gym We get to the other

1:36:00

shoe. You don't have to wear anything. You

1:36:02

don't have to wear anything at all. Would

1:36:05

you buy these? I believe we were going

1:36:07

to talk earlier about the upcoming season of

1:36:09

WWE legends, biography, and rivals. We

1:36:11

were weren't we? That's right. Well,

1:36:14

I'm glad you remembered that. What

1:36:17

are those fine programs? Because again, this is

1:36:20

a, they've done a few seasons of these

1:36:22

now. We like the biographies in a lot

1:36:24

of cases. The rivals

1:36:26

has great vintage

1:36:29

footage and you know, the, the wonderful

1:36:31

aspect of the production, the WWE does

1:36:33

and the editing and et cetera. But

1:36:36

it's the pesky host and panel that have nothing

1:36:38

to do with the subject that get

1:36:41

in the way and take up valuable time. So

1:36:43

some of those are reviews are mixed who, who

1:36:46

are being, who are being focused. Is

1:36:48

that English? What are

1:36:50

the subjects

1:36:52

or who are the individuals? There's

1:36:56

nothing you can say about this. Sorry. They're

1:36:59

being focused on in this,

1:37:02

these seasons of these programs, Brian.

1:37:06

Well, WWE biography returns on February 25th

1:37:08

on A&E with Randy Orton.

1:37:14

I'm sure you were interviewed for that one. Hey,

1:37:16

yeah. And they, they, they quit trying before,

1:37:18

uh, when it last time, but, uh, but

1:37:20

no, I'm sure there, there will probably be

1:37:23

some vintage OVW

1:37:25

footage. I would love if

1:37:28

they hadn't botched everybody

1:37:30

that we sent them from

1:37:33

OVW between 2003 and

1:37:35

2005, I'd love if they put some footage of

1:37:37

our new building. Then we

1:37:39

moved into on goddamn national television,

1:37:43

all the footage they ever uses

1:37:45

from the old warehouse in Jeffersonville

1:37:47

and it looks like shit. We had

1:37:49

a beautiful fucking building that, you

1:37:52

know, looked great on television and they

1:37:54

destroyed all those people's careers before

1:37:57

they attained legendary status. But go

1:37:59

ahead. week two

1:38:01

Jim biography on actually not week two I

1:38:03

guess a few weeks later I guess

1:38:06

I think they're starting on February 25th

1:38:08

and then they're skipping a couple of

1:38:10

weeks well they return March 17th

1:38:13

with a preemption instead it will be an

1:38:15

infomercial DDP DDP

1:38:19

will be the subject and

1:38:22

of course yoga will be the

1:38:24

sponsor of the program the

1:38:27

next week on the 24th another one that

1:38:29

should be interesting Davey Boy

1:38:31

Smith I'm looking forward

1:38:34

to that because I'm I

1:38:36

know they got almost

1:38:38

his entire catalog he started with him at

1:38:41

84 and was there on and off but

1:38:43

I'm hoping that they research

1:38:46

some of because there is footage out there

1:38:48

a long

1:38:50

time ago a friend in England

1:38:52

sent me

1:38:54

a DVD compilation of dynamite kid

1:38:57

and Davey Boy matches on television

1:38:59

there before they even went to

1:39:01

Calgary so it exists the

1:39:03

question is how deep are they gonna go

1:39:05

that would be interesting young David over

1:39:09

there I believe yes cuz he started when

1:39:11

he was like 15 and he looked

1:39:13

it I mean he looked like a really small

1:39:15

you would never imagine that he would turn into

1:39:17

the British Bulldog years later well no if in

1:39:20

the day if dynamite and Davey Boy stood next

1:39:22

to each other they neither one both of

1:39:24

them together wouldn't make a what

1:39:28

you got me so frazzled I can't form a

1:39:30

cogent simile both of them together would

1:39:32

not have made one of them when they got

1:39:35

on the sauce is what I'm trying to say

1:39:37

that is correct and finally Jim on the

1:39:39

31st of March biography

1:39:42

of Roman Reigns and

1:39:45

that'll be interesting again too is more

1:39:47

modern guys so you can't go back

1:39:49

and look at vintage footage he is

1:39:52

also you know their biggest modern

1:39:55

era star how

1:39:57

do you feel about the fact that you can't tell a

1:39:59

story without presenting him in a sympathetic manner due

1:40:01

to his illness. And

1:40:04

this is right before WrestleMania. So

1:40:06

you're presenting him as a real sympathetic

1:40:08

baby face going into WrestleMania because they get

1:40:10

a lot of viewers on these shows. Yeah. Might've

1:40:15

held it off till next year because by next

1:40:17

year, I think they'll want to present him as

1:40:19

a sympathetic baby face. Well,

1:40:21

those are the episodes, the four weeks announced

1:40:23

so far for WWE Rivals

1:40:26

Gym on the 25th, sponsored

1:40:28

by the Wrestling Observer newsletter. It's

1:40:31

Triple H versus The Rock. Oh

1:40:38

my God. Do you think he, do

1:40:40

you think he conflated these things in

1:40:42

his mind because he never stops hunching

1:40:45

over that keyboard typing drivel about independent

1:40:48

wrestling in Kansas

1:40:51

that, you know, he's all over there. No wonder they're

1:40:53

doing a special on their rivalry. They're going to meet

1:40:55

again. Sadly,

1:40:58

Kansas is dead right now. This,

1:41:03

it's a perfect time for it because

1:41:05

they're actually going to be doing a

1:41:07

version of a rivalry with Triple H

1:41:09

as the chief content

1:41:11

officer and The Rock on the board

1:41:13

of directors. So if,

1:41:15

and I think, well, shit, the

1:41:19

edit was probably done before the events

1:41:21

of the last month, so I would

1:41:24

hope on this program that they would be a little,

1:41:26

if they're interviewed, either one of

1:41:28

them on a sit down, they would still be a

1:41:30

little prickly with the other to keep that illusion going.

1:41:32

And I will say this because I have some knowledge

1:41:34

of previous A and E WWE shows. There are times

1:41:36

where they're producing it up until the week of the

1:41:38

show. Well, in that

1:41:41

case, then they might revamp some things.

1:41:44

On the 17th of March, John

1:41:46

Cena versus Randy Orton. And

1:41:49

you know, this will actually be interesting

1:41:51

to see how much of the, of the old

1:41:54

warehouse in Jeffersonville, they use the OVW

1:41:56

footage because they had their first in-ring

1:42:00

matches in OVW and on

1:42:02

our television. But

1:42:04

again, obviously they've done a few things since then.

1:42:08

And it works because here

1:42:10

Orton, it makes Orton

1:42:12

look bigger that he was a, even

1:42:15

today for the modern fans that may have

1:42:17

come along last few years, that he was

1:42:19

a rival of the guy that, you know,

1:42:22

went Hollywood and is a major

1:42:24

superstar. Well

1:42:27

Jim, the next week's episode is sponsored

1:42:29

by AEW Rampage. On

1:42:31

the 24th is Edge and Christian versus

1:42:33

Matt and Jeff Hardy. Ooh,

1:42:38

I wonder how are they just, are

1:42:41

they going to ignore the existence of AEW? Are

1:42:45

they going to, Matt and Jeff

1:42:47

have been there a while. They may not be

1:42:49

interviewed for it. Christian's been there for a while.

1:42:52

But they do have plenty of archival

1:42:54

interviews with them. Yeah. Matt's just feud. True,

1:42:56

true. So they're going to use old

1:42:59

comments of everybody except maybe

1:43:01

Edge. They'll

1:43:05

probably ignore that AEW

1:43:07

exists and kind of sidestep

1:43:09

around that all of

1:43:11

these guys are actually still wrestling. Should

1:43:13

it be these two teams or should the Dudley's be in

1:43:16

there too? I think

1:43:22

everybody, when they think of the ladders, they

1:43:25

think of the Hardee's and Edge and Christian

1:43:27

because they were the daredevils. I

1:43:29

think if anything, the Dudley's

1:43:31

might have been some glue in the middle

1:43:33

that held everybody else from not killing themselves

1:43:36

at this point, you know. But

1:43:39

it's again, maybe A&E

1:43:42

knows what the WWE and AEW and everybody

1:43:44

else don't. In a three-way, nobody gets over.

1:43:47

Tell a fucking story simple. And

1:43:50

finally, Jim, on March 31st, WWE

1:43:53