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a dull day, the WWE critters
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and waste their pay-per-view in an
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offhand way. Folks, it's the time
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the Jim Cordette experience and joining me.
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Hawaiian Brian, the Podcasting Lion, the King
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A pleasure to be here once again. As
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Future. What's it
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look like in the future? Are they
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going to pick this shit up
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a notch in the future
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there? Great Brian Lass, Sears, soothsayer,
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prognosticator and prognostician. And
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for, we all know, practicing a,
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a prevaricator. I
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don't know who meant that the, who you're
2:17
talking about may be, but
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I will say in terms of time travel,
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AEW collision was very interesting this week because
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it started with, I guess, a modern
2:26
futuristic kind of car crash match.
2:28
And it ended with wrestling before
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Soddenberg. It's
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an amazing travel back in time in
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one two hour episode. Uh, a
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lot of people were tripping
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at some point in that program, tripping
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and falling, tripping on something. We'll, we'll
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talk about that, uh, you know,
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here as we get
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further into the program. But I was
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trying to form a cogent simile, Brian,
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as to the diametrically opposed
2:58
presentations of the two major
3:00
wrestling groups. And
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I figured it's kind of like this.
3:05
Would you rather watch a two
3:07
hour compilation of highlights of
3:09
interstate highway car crashes involving
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people you don't know in
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places you've never been? Or
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would you rather watch two hours
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of people you love and
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care about getting their hair
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cut and having a discussion with their
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barber? Who's
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the barber? Just
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some fucking guy. Not that regular
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barber? Not
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even the regular, just a new one. They got to start
3:40
from scratch. I like it a little bit above the ears.
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Well, a star is a star. And you always wonder if
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they have real hair or a wig. So I would probably
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go with that one. Well,
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that's what they're doing. Cause that's the
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WWE approach. And meanwhile, over on the
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other side of the street, they are
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trying to kill some motherfuckers with the
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most egg. aggravated
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mayhem. I've been charged with that
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before. Aggravated mayhem.
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What other forms of mayhem can
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they charge you with? Well, there's,
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there's mayhem and there's aggravated mayhem
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and goddamn it. Can
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you be charged with just regular mayhem? We'd
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yeah. Regular, regular mayhem is a thing. And
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then there's aggravated mayhem. And then when you
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go all the way to fucking assault
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and mayhem with a deadly weapon, well,
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you've, you're fucked then.
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Yeah, one mayhem too far. Yeah. One
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mayhem too far, but
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nevertheless, uh, so that's what they're, they're
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trying to do. And I'll tell you,
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before we talk about the wrestling, I
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have various things that I've written down.
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I got to bring up. I got notes here.
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I want to keep people up to date on
4:49
things. One, I have to make a
4:52
retraction or a correction. See, I do that
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we get on uncle Dave and
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some of these other people, if they don't do this, but
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so when I emit wrong information or
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give people an incorrect
5:07
idea or try to lead demonstrate, I corrected
5:10
as soon as I'm aware of this. So
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I'm making that statement right now. Remember here
5:15
on, on your program a few
5:18
days ago, the drive-through, I
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said, Brian, I'm watching this, this
5:23
TV show on the Netflix called
5:25
the watcher and boy, it's cool.
5:27
So far it's the people, a
5:29
family buys a house with weird
5:32
neighbors and spooky things ongoing and fucking
5:36
creepy shit. And boy, howdy and
5:38
there's masked figures behind the fucking
5:40
couch when they walk through the
5:42
room, all this shit, right? Remember
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me telling you about this. Yeah.
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I had never heard of it before. And you surprisingly
5:50
were introducing me to a Netflix show that
5:52
I still haven't watched or probably
5:55
won't be watching, but. Well, I
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was about to go into that. Remember who I
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told people. You ought to watch the watcher. Don't
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fucking watch it. Do
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not fucking watch that show. Do
6:07
not give it your, the time
6:09
of your life. Seven
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hours of this fucking
6:14
bullshit. These people, whoever
6:16
is that Ryan Murphy
6:18
motherfucker, he's on my shit list
6:20
right now. I liked American horror. Stevie Nicks
6:22
was an American horror story. How could you
6:24
not like it? And some of them other
6:27
witches were in their
6:29
own way appealing as well, but nevertheless. What
6:31
happened that turned you off to the show so
6:34
bad? Ryan fucking Murphy and everybody involved in this
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shit. You know the guy whose name I couldn't
6:38
remember from goddamn Boardwalk Empire. He
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wasn't the star anyway. As a matter of
6:42
fact, the show probably would have been better
6:45
without him on that one either. Boardwalk Empire.
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Fuck this guy. Fuck
6:49
whoever this fucking actress is that plays
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his fucking fuck feet. What's his name?
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Do you have a name? No, I
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don't know. Look it up. The Watcher
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on Netflix somewhere. Fuck Netflix. For
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that matter. These as
7:04
mama cornet would say these sorry, no
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good son of a bitches. What
7:09
happened? Remember I said
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I was just, I was about to start.
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Oh, Bobby Carval. Yeah. He was one of
7:16
the stars of the last couple of seasons
7:18
of Boardwalk Empire. And then he was, he
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was on vinyl. Remember we talked about that
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awful show vinyl that lasted one season and
7:25
HBO was like never again. Yeah. Well, fuck
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Bobby fucking Cardinal or whatever his goddamn name
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could be. Nothing no are. Carval. Well,
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he can kind of my Val.
7:34
So fuck him too. Point being,
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I'd watched the first four shows, I
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believe when, when last we checked in.
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And I think it was maybe it
7:45
was a wrong about the fifth show that
7:47
I was starting to go, you know, now,
7:49
wait a minute. Some of these people are
7:52
not reacting in a logical fashion
7:56
and I'm struggling
7:58
with some, some of the. developments here
8:00
but I'm sure that's just a momentary
8:02
diversion and they'll kick this thing into
8:04
high gear because they got I
8:07
figure in six and seven they got a lot of
8:09
spleen in to do because remember I said I'd
8:12
be upset if it was some cliffhanger and
8:15
goddamn then the show didn't
8:17
get renewed and you never found out right
8:20
I'm hoping this is a self-contained series well
8:22
I've watched all
8:24
seven of them now and I still don't
8:26
fucking know I don't
8:28
know shit I don't know shit from apple
8:30
butter I don't know whether this thing's gonna
8:32
continue I don't know whether that was a
8:34
cliffhanger I don't know whether that was the
8:36
end of the show in the series I
8:39
don't know who did what to who in
8:42
what fashion and why and how
8:46
they didn't explain shit this
8:49
by the end and when
8:51
six was over with I said okay again
8:54
we got what is this a two-hour finale
8:56
what the fuck how are they gonna get
8:58
to the bottom of this they didn't get to the bottom of
9:00
dick they didn't even fucking pop
9:03
the top off the dick they
9:06
explain nothing you
9:08
don't know how or why any of
9:10
this was done or by who and
9:14
some of the shit just doesn't make a lick
9:17
of goddamn sense and they just left it they
9:19
just left it they just fought off I
9:22
have Netflix here and it says it's a 2022 series it was premiered
9:24
October 2022 it's old I thought it
9:32
was new we just heard about it it is
9:34
loosely based on a 2018 article by Reeves Wiedemann
9:39
for New York magazine's website the
9:42
cut this I'll
9:44
agree it was loosely based
9:46
it was so loose it
9:48
was positively fucking flaccid but
9:50
go ahead despite being originally
9:52
conceived as a miniseries the
9:55
watcher was renewed for a second season
9:57
in November 2022 And
10:01
have they done it? I
10:04
don't see anything here about the production of the
10:06
second season. What
10:09
the fuck? Well,
10:13
if I'd have watched that thing when it first came
10:15
out, it's two years later, I'll still
10:17
be as mad as I
10:20
am now that I wasted my fucking seven hours
10:22
of my life. Stace was hot.
10:25
Harley was pissed. She had
10:27
to sit there in front of it too. Well,
10:29
she didn't have to sit there, but listen, you shouldn't
10:31
force the dog to watch these things. The
10:34
modern television show, This Happens, it really
10:36
started with the Sopranos with giant gaps
10:39
in between seasons. Years go
10:41
by. Game of Thrones 2. I
10:44
guess maybe the Watcher, they need
10:46
a lot of time to produce the next seven episodes. A
10:50
lot of time after that fucking last
10:53
episode, I can't
10:56
imagine anybody's going to give them any more
10:58
time. Maybe they all quietly slunk off
11:00
into the fucking darkness. Over
11:03
that- We have to
11:05
find out? Does he find out that Nora is watching?
11:08
Hey, how
11:10
do you know? I know Wikipedia
11:12
right here. Oh,
11:14
god damn it. I thought you said you hadn't
11:17
watched it, but you're cheating. I haven't watched it.
11:19
That's not cheating. You're cheating. I
11:21
told you I had this before. You're
11:23
just like that with the interwebs where
11:25
you can just pull up information. Theodora?
11:27
Who names their child Theodora nowadays? Well,
11:30
she's an older lady. Oh, that explains it.
11:34
Theodora was big in the 40s and 50s. And
11:38
there's a Karen? I see there's a Karen. You
11:40
have a Karen. Stiffler's mom is in
11:42
it. Oh, is she
11:44
Theodora? No, no. She
11:48
was- oh,
11:50
god damn. What was her- the real estate agent.
11:52
That woman can do anything she wants. She'll always
11:54
be referred to as Stiffler's mom. Well,
11:56
and she's still a- I'd say that in 99. She's
12:00
still a bucc some older lady, but but
12:02
anyway the whole thing just it
12:05
had a lot of potential So
12:07
I don't they based it on a newspaper article
12:09
It sounds like they based it on something somebody
12:11
scribbled on the stall wall at a truck stop
12:13
when they were taking a shit Because
12:16
there was no once they had the fucking Spooky
12:19
characters. There's no story no substance whatsoever
12:21
that has any kind of payoff Well,
12:24
I have an article here from the direct
12:27
comm Those
12:29
waiting for any sort of imminent release for
12:32
the watch or season two on Netflix just
12:34
got some bad news Uh-huh
12:36
Starring Naomi Watts and Bobby
12:38
Conavale This series was
12:41
given a second season order by Netflix in November
12:43
2022 mere
12:45
weeks after season ones
12:47
premiere given the
12:49
extended time since it Before
12:53
it had time to settle in with
12:55
people just exactly how bad this thing
12:57
stunk given the extended
12:59
time since its announcement Some
13:02
believe the show would be primed for a 2024 release
13:05
as part of the streamers tentpole lineup
13:09
According to a new report the watcher season two has been pushed
13:11
out of 2024 with
13:13
a 2025 release more
13:15
likely Fuck the hit
13:18
Netflix series appeared as part of
13:20
a list of projects from the
13:22
streamer that will skip alongside
13:28
Exo Kitty and the
13:30
recruits As
13:32
it stands it is currently unknown Exo
13:34
Kitty and the recruit is that like a
13:36
new ant man in the wasp? No, those
13:38
are two separate shows They are not combined
13:40
as well for units It
13:44
was a buddy flick I didn't and they
13:46
work better that way as it stands It
13:48
is currently unknown when the watcher will go
13:50
into production on its sophomore efforts I
13:54
know I think that this one and I
13:56
just watched was a very sophomore ish effort.
13:58
I series star Naomi watcher revealed to Entertainment
14:00
Weekly that she has not heard anything more about
14:02
the show. Quote,
14:05
I know they said yes to the next series,
14:07
but I haven't heard anything more. All
14:10
right. So maybe
14:12
one day, this is the frustration with a lot of these
14:14
shows. And a lot of great shows go after
14:17
the air after one season, like Freaks and Geeks. The
14:20
series ends- And back to that again, 30
14:22
years, you have not lost your goddamn- It's
14:24
the best show. It holds up.
14:26
Fascination. So the series ends with the girl
14:28
running off with other teenagers that joined the
14:31
Grateful Dead on the road. And
14:33
that's the end of the series. You never get to find
14:35
out what happens when her parents see her in
14:38
a few weeks. Well,
14:41
chances are they saw her again about
14:43
seven years when they pulled her lifeless
14:45
body out of a port of John
14:47
in the goddamn parking lot somewhere. The
14:50
Grateful Dead? The fucking Oakland Coliseum. Lifeless
14:52
bodies? What are you talking about? Well,
14:54
you know, these people that were just
14:57
infested with the drugs. The
14:59
drugs. You know, here, I
15:02
don't know that I have ever told
15:05
you or put on the podcast because I
15:07
just thought of it for the first time
15:09
in 20 years maybe
15:12
that I can recall a
15:14
Vince McMahon quote, Oh
15:16
no. Which again shows
15:20
how people can be so
15:24
bizarrely off moral center
15:26
in one area
15:28
of their life while being so
15:31
self-righteous about something else. Was that
15:33
something that I uttered just now
15:35
that you can understand? Oh, absolutely.
15:37
Yeah. He, we are driving, or
15:41
was this was, Anaheim, WrestleMania
15:43
96, right? And
15:47
we've got the rental Lincoln
15:49
Continental and it's Vince,
15:52
Jim Ross, Bruce, and myself. And we
15:54
are actually going to the building from
15:56
our hotel. We're going to the, what
15:58
was it? The pond. And
16:02
this would remember Luis Piccoli had been
16:04
Rad Radford. Yeah. And
16:08
I guess
16:10
his run came to an unceremonious end
16:13
sometime in what, late 95. I
16:15
can't recall the
16:17
particulars now. I'm
16:21
sure it's out there on YouTube or had
16:23
been in somebody's shoot interview or whatever the
16:25
case. But
16:27
for the purposes of this, it was just a point
16:30
that Luis was still
16:32
friends with Candido and Tammy, but he
16:35
was no longer with the company. But Luis also
16:37
lived in Southern California, so he got together
16:39
with Chris and Tammy as going to the
16:41
show to see it and visit
16:44
with him and probably try to politic
16:46
to get his job back, right?
16:50
And I've, there may have been substances
16:52
related to whatever the cause was.
16:54
But Vince
16:57
is in the fucking front passenger seat and me and Bruce
16:59
are in the back. I think
17:01
Jim Ross is driving. And I
17:03
just remember past them, I said, oh, there's Chris
17:05
and Tammy just idly. And I saw Piccoli then
17:07
was sitting in the seat and Vince saw him
17:10
at the same time and Vince just said, Piccoli,
17:13
that drug infested son of a
17:16
bitch. I'm like
17:18
Jesus Christ. Wow. You
17:20
know, I can understand flunking a fucking drug
17:22
test or if he had been the main
17:24
event of fucking pay-per-viewing flunked a drug test
17:26
and had to be taken off or in
17:28
some way made headlines
17:30
or whatever, right? But,
17:33
you know, Piccoli, not the first one of
17:35
the boys have made a mistake. And it was like
17:37
he had been the drug pusher
17:39
that OD'd Vince's grandchild or something
17:41
with that. I would just, I'd
17:44
hop back and look at Bruce and Bruce, of course, looks
17:46
down at his notes and we just drove on by. But
17:49
that's when I knew chances are probably, Piccoli wasn't
17:52
going to get his job back. And I don't
17:54
know what. Because I wasn't in
17:57
the office or in that car group
17:59
or whatever. whatever, too, for
18:02
that. It's about who was relaying stuff back to Vince
18:04
because everyone was partying and there were plenty of guys
18:06
getting fucked up on the same shit Luis Picoli was,
18:08
although he may have gone a little further than others.
18:10
Yeah. But who was telling Vince about
18:12
it? Well, and that's, see, that's
18:14
the thing. I was not privy to
18:17
all the day-to-day drama at the point that was
18:19
going on. I came in a couple months later
18:21
and so all of that, I was just like,
18:23
holy, cause I always liked Spicoli. And
18:26
I mean, yes, he, you know, made mistakes with
18:28
what we were just talking about, but loved
18:31
a business, good worker, had
18:33
some personality. When I, I
18:36
first saw him in the locker room in Continental
18:39
when we made, uh, we had
18:42
give our notice to WCW in 89,
18:44
right? And
18:47
when George Scott was Booker, and then as
18:50
we've told a million times, they fired him before we
18:52
finished up. We took two months off. We had already
18:54
booked some dates and then we came back and
18:57
a couple of them were in Continental Wrestling
18:59
Dundee was the Booker and
19:01
Spicoli, that was his first territory
19:04
and you know, they
19:06
were, they were about to close down anyway. So
19:08
we wouldn't be there long, but when
19:11
we went in the locker room, I said, my God,
19:13
you look like Bobby Eaton's little brother. And that's when
19:15
Bobby met him. We all met him for the first
19:17
time. And that
19:19
was, there
19:21
was some germ of idea in
19:23
my mind of a Smokey
19:26
Mountain wrestling or a territory or
19:28
whatever the fuck. And
19:31
I said, you know, I
19:33
would make you Bobby's little brother
19:35
and nobody fucking knew it, right?
19:38
And you had a different last name
19:40
cause Bobby's a star, but
19:43
then, you know, the big fucking reveal
19:45
happens when some fucking dastardly he opens
19:47
Louis, who was a rookie then he
19:49
was a job guy, you know, a
19:52
level or opening match
19:54
on how show level guy. But
19:57
so you couldn't, you know, just. be
20:00
ridiculous with it, but some
20:02
dastardly top heel fucking slayed
20:06
little Louis Spicoli would come to find out he
20:08
was a little Louis Eaton from Huntsville, Alabama and
20:10
Bobby would come in to fucking get
20:13
revenge for him or whatever. It's
20:15
always every time I saw Spicoli after
20:17
that I say, you're Bobby's little brother.
20:20
But then I could have got Bobby or I could have
20:22
got Bobby's little brother but I didn't have Bobby. Did
20:25
he work for you in Smoky Mountain? I'm
20:28
trying to think if he can. No, because he still lived
20:31
in California. I mean, he was
20:34
another guy, Candido at least could drive down and
20:37
both him and Tammy
20:39
could make some money. But when Spicoli was really
20:41
a valor and plus he did a lot of
20:44
stuff in Mexico with that period in Japan, he
20:46
had jobs
20:49
where he may have had to go
20:52
out of the country to make
20:54
the money but he made more than I
20:56
could have paid him and the
20:59
angle wasn't there anymore. But
21:03
anyway, can I give you
21:05
a television show that I'm
21:07
sure that you will like because I've already watched
21:10
all of them? No, this happened before. Can I
21:12
give you a show that you watch? No.
21:15
Well, let
21:17
me just tell you what it is and then you judge
21:19
me on that. I found
21:21
instead a four-part James
21:24
Brown documentary that
21:27
is wonderful and I think
21:30
it's on Vice as a matter of
21:32
fact and yes, I checked to make sure they
21:35
were still on the air because dark side
21:37
of the rings coming up and apparently
21:39
they're still broadcasting. Now, I understand they've
21:41
had some office furniture repossessed but the
21:43
broadcast tower and equipment still operating. At
21:46
any point, the signal may be taken over
21:48
by all American wrestling. Well,
21:50
either that or your max headroom
21:53
fucking logo but it's
21:56
a four-part document. James Brown say
21:58
it loud and they... have tons
22:00
of archival footage, as they
22:03
say, and just
22:05
amazing interview clips.
22:07
And I watched
22:10
it on the on-demand gimmick.
22:13
Uh, Stace has learned me all this newfangled
22:15
technology. So that's why I'm shady now on
22:17
the network. But well, you
22:20
can't find anything else to watch on television
22:23
these days. For
22:26
fuck's sake. You gotta, you gotta have a
22:28
thousand channels, be able to fill four hours
22:30
of viewing time per day. So
22:32
you're now more receptive to streaming different
22:35
services. The idea they have their own custom shows, they
22:37
have shows as good as the network shows. Well,
22:41
no, actually, well, Vice is on
22:43
my cable, but I watched it
22:45
on on-demand. I'm for long. Yeah. Well,
22:47
again, you know, as long as they
22:49
get the fucking 10 episodes of Dark
22:51
Side, you know, uh, out to the
22:53
public, if they disseminate that, then they
22:55
can. You know,
22:57
whatever. I mean, K-Sara-Sara, but anyway,
23:01
James Brown, say it loud, look
23:03
it up. Four-part documentary. You would
23:05
love that as a music industry
23:07
insider and a
23:09
critic and an experienced
23:11
reviewer, you would enjoy this, this television programming.
23:14
No, I definitely want to see it. There
23:16
was a really good James Brown documentary a
23:18
few years ago. I forget if it was
23:20
HBO or Showtime, but it
23:22
was tremendous. I want to say Mick Jagger may have
23:24
been the producer, the executive producer of it. Well,
23:27
yeah. And, and actually they've got, uh, the
23:29
comments from Mick Jagger that they may have
23:32
lifted via fair use from, from
23:35
that project or who knows whatever, but.
23:38
Yeah. I saw that when you're talking about too, and
23:40
I think it was HBO and this
23:42
is a, they've got his daughters on
23:44
this one, but they, you know, they've also got,
23:46
uh, Oh, God damn it. Do they show the
23:48
CNN thing where he was all fucked
23:51
up on the air live with. Who
23:53
was it? I forget who the host was, but
23:56
Oh, well, there are clips of the dark period.
23:58
They don't go into detail on that. one,
24:00
but I remember what you are
24:02
talking about and who was his fucking, who
24:05
was his partner in the band? Who's the guy
24:07
that started the band? Bobby, Bobby Bird, right? Is
24:10
that his name? I believe so. He's
24:13
all over this. He's a
24:15
feisty gentleman. But
24:17
anyway, you would enjoy the, or people
24:20
out there, I'm trying to redeem myself.
24:22
If anybody jumped on watching The Watcher
24:24
before... If anyone
24:27
started watching that show that's been out for a year and
24:29
a half because of my
24:31
recommendation. Well, I'd never heard of it.
24:33
Me, Soul Brother number two.
24:36
With the magnitude
24:38
of me, Brian, and the magnitude
24:40
of the numbers of our audience,
24:42
I probably just disseminated that pissy
24:45
ass putrid program to
24:48
more people that had heard of it up until
24:50
now. Hit Netflix
24:52
series. What's that mean? Four
24:56
fucking people with insomnia and two
24:58
cat burglars sitting
25:00
up watching this shit some night? Hey,
25:02
now that you're streaming, do you
25:04
have HBO max? Well, now it's just max. Max,
25:07
do you have max? I don't know. I just
25:09
have whatever Stace puts on the television if it's
25:11
not related to the cable and I know how
25:13
to work it. Because to me, the dream scenario,
25:15
because I think it will go over amazingly, is
25:18
you have to start watching Curb Your Enthusiasm. You've never
25:20
seen an episode of it and you
25:23
love Seinfeld and this takes
25:25
it to a whole other level. And
25:27
it's kind of more in line with the
25:29
Jim Cornette way of life than you
25:32
probably realize. Well, all right. I'm going
25:34
to write this down now. I'm going
25:36
to curb your requests by watching
25:39
some Curb Your Enthusiasm as soon as I have
25:41
a chance when I get finished. After the King
25:43
of Kong and Monster Squad. Um,
25:50
and I got to give another
25:53
update because remember, well,
25:55
you remember, obviously we talk constantly, God
25:57
damn it, but some of the folks out
25:59
there, the people. pulled the cult of Cornet may
26:01
remember a few months ago or several months now.
26:03
I've been talking about my cousin
26:05
Larry had health problems, got
26:07
that pneumonia lung infection, was
26:09
in the hospital in the
26:11
rehab facility, finally went home before
26:14
Christmas thankfully and has
26:17
still been trying to do in physical
26:19
therapy and trying to get feeling
26:22
better and he has been up and
26:24
about more independently and feeling better
26:27
and he decides, I was
26:30
last weekend now whenever this is, it was
26:32
seven to ten days ago or so, he
26:36
says to his wife, he said, I
26:38
feel like you know going out and doing
26:40
something he has not been out of the
26:42
house really except for doctor's appointments since he
26:44
got sick and it was summertime less than
26:46
six months and
26:49
so they get some friends of theirs and
26:52
they just said, well we'll just go right down the road
26:54
here, this restaurant we like and we'll go eat dinner with
26:56
them and so
26:59
he goes and has the first dinner in
27:01
six months out with his
27:04
friends and everything and they were able to
27:06
talk and all that stuff and he felt
27:08
really good about being
27:10
able to go out again and live
27:13
somewhat of a normal life, that's what
27:15
happened, that was on a Saturday
27:17
night. And guess
27:20
what happened on Monday morning? Oh
27:22
no, what happened? He tested positive for COVID
27:24
with 102 degree fever. Oh
27:27
no. So
27:29
that'll teach him to go out and I told him,
27:31
I said, that'll teach you to go out in public,
27:33
going out in public is highly overrated. I
27:36
mean, because his wife called me, she said,
27:39
Larry's got COVID, I said, what did he
27:41
get from the dog? How did he get
27:43
COVID? We went
27:45
out to dinner night before last. The
27:48
first time he's been again in a
27:51
public setting besides for a
27:53
doctor's office, where all the
27:56
sick people are, he's been
27:58
fine. He didn't get gave way to a.
28:00
restaurant, he got COVID and
28:02
ain't back in the fucking bed. For
28:06
all the people wondering if I will attend their,
28:09
their wedding bar mitzvah
28:11
or social function. And
28:14
I'm sorry, I'm not doing the bake sales
28:16
either. Although I've, I
28:18
may have to break down and do at
28:20
least one fish fry during the season here.
28:22
They keep plugging it on TV, but nevertheless,
28:27
huh, you
28:29
know, we got big television programs coming up
28:31
that we told people to
28:33
watch. And by the time
28:35
they see this, the A and E WWE presentations
28:39
will have begun. I guess we're going to talk
28:41
about those at some point the next time we
28:43
do a program, aren't we? Yay.
28:50
Well, I think the first biography is Orton.
28:52
Let's see how deep they get. It
28:55
is, it is rookie year. And
28:58
they get to the, they may have to switch to a
29:00
premium channel. Well, no, I'm talking
29:02
about just his, his wrestling training
29:04
and some of our,
29:07
some of our footage when we were in
29:09
a goddamn condemned warehouse. And, and, and again,
29:11
I said the other week on the show,
29:13
none of our, they killed
29:15
all the careers of the guys we
29:17
trained when we got our nice television
29:19
friendly facilities. And every time somebody sees
29:21
OVW, it's in a
29:23
brick fucking holding cell. It looks like it was
29:25
from World War II. They never
29:27
show Lashley when he was there. That was
29:29
the first time I saw Lashley blaster Lashley
29:31
in OVW. Yeah. And well, he, he
29:34
was green, but still, you would think they would,
29:36
you know, he did some, some
29:38
mighty impressive things. When,
29:41
can you, that has been
29:43
20 years ago. Can
29:46
you imagine what
29:48
he looks like now? And he's
29:50
looked the same way for 20
29:52
years. He's a genetic marvel. Because
29:56
I mean, musculature.
30:00
The, you know, his, his physique,
30:02
but his face, facially
30:04
the same. He doesn't have a goddamn scar
30:06
or a wrinkle that he didn't have fucking
30:09
20 years ago. You could walk, it's the
30:11
same. Take a picture of him. His driver's
30:13
license picture is from 2004. It's
30:15
the same fucking thing. I
30:18
want what he's on. I
30:20
bet, but you can't, there's no steroids
30:22
for your fucking face. Who
30:24
knows? You don't know that. You
30:27
don't know that. You're not a dermatologist. What do you know?
30:29
I think probably somebody before Bobby
30:32
Lashley would have found him and,
30:34
and publicized your face. That
30:36
would, that would do the opposite. I don't think that's what
30:38
he's using. That would give him like muscular, like big
30:41
cheeks. What is he
30:43
goddamn drinking? Jasha Gabor's blood.
30:45
What are you inferring here?
30:48
This is the adrenochrome straight from the
30:50
Gabor sisters. So you're saying you thought
30:52
the Gabor sisters looked very good later
30:54
in life. Well, I've said they, they
30:56
pretty much fucking got their face set for
30:58
the last 40 years they lived, right? You
31:01
could, once they got everything all on there
31:03
and together and the wigs and the harnesses
31:06
and trusses and apparatuses, you couldn't
31:08
tell them, you
31:10
know. Should Bobby start speaking in a
31:13
Slovakian accent? Well,
31:15
I'm doing promos. Then let me tell
31:17
you, darling. Darling. Yeah, tell me what
31:20
darling. Then let me
31:22
tell you, darling. So
31:27
the A and E programming will be
31:29
coming and also dark side of the
31:31
ring. Our friends over there at, at
31:33
these still operating, get it while it's
31:35
on the air vice TV, uh, the
31:38
clock is now ticking. If it lasts 10
31:41
more weeks, we're
31:43
going to get them all in. It's 10 episodes
31:45
this season and they start Tuesday night, March the
31:47
5th that, uh, what it's 10
31:49
o'clock Eastern. Cause this is late night. Adult
31:52
subject matter viewer discretion is
31:56
if not demanded, then
31:58
certainly advised. I say
32:00
something that's probably not popular real quick and then
32:02
we move on. Well, you do on a constant
32:04
basis. Everything you say is not popular. I say
32:06
the truth though. It could not be popular. That's
32:08
fine. I say the truth. Vice
32:12
is probably doing the right thing. I
32:14
know it sounds crazy. They're going to stop
32:17
publishing content on vice.com, but the idea
32:19
that the business
32:21
should be them producing
32:23
content with the vice brand and
32:25
their brand of news
32:27
reporting and distributing it in
32:29
different places, I think
32:32
that probably makes more sense. So it sucks that
32:34
everyone's losing their job, but it
32:37
was a business that should have been kept small. They
32:39
got pumped up and got out of hand and
32:41
now we'll get the master run. So
32:43
when you're saying that, that Colin
32:45
Thompson is a high ranking executive
32:47
and vice too. Oh,
32:50
no, no, no, no, no. And if it happened, it
32:52
would have to be like a secretive thing. They would,
32:54
Or did they just, they just stole his business model.
32:56
They may have stolen his business model. No, the
32:58
guy who everyone remembers as the face of vice
33:00
when they had the show at HBO, Shane Smith,
33:04
with all these announcements of all the layoffs and
33:06
everything coming, not a peep from him. I
33:09
even saw an article that said that like he's
33:11
nowhere to be found. What does that mean? You
33:13
can't find them. So
33:16
we'll see what happens. But yes, dark side of
33:18
the ring returns until black Tuesday
33:20
hits. Here's
33:22
a question. Who's looking for him? I
33:25
guess the reporters were. Well, I,
33:27
but no, but I mean, how qualified are,
33:30
well, how qualified are these? Have they have
33:32
what kind of effort are they putting in
33:34
when they said he can't be found? Well,
33:36
did they put the goddamn FBI on the
33:38
case? Did they put McGruff the crime dog?
33:41
Is there, are there
33:44
fucking, you know, malicious from
33:46
the national guard combing his
33:48
known haunts? How, what kind of manhunt is underway
33:50
for this guy? Or is he just not answering
33:53
the phone? And they say, Oh, he can't be
33:55
found. I don't know. I'd like to
33:57
know what kind of efforts going into it. Well, wait,
33:59
I can't. speak to the effort but he was
34:01
nowhere to be found. We'll see what happens and we'll
34:03
see what happens with Vice and of course that exciting
34:05
Randy Orton biography. Now I want the Bobby Lashley
34:07
biography they're not going to do but
34:10
it's your show. Well
34:12
yes it is and I'll tell you this
34:14
boy howdy I'm right where everybody can find
34:16
me. I am right
34:19
here visible not visibly, audibly where
34:22
everybody can hear me so that they know that
34:24
I've not made off with their money because the
34:27
fine folks out there who are listening to
34:29
the sound of my voice that have sent
34:31
in money for the Midnight Express and Heavenly
34:33
Body's tag team action figure sets are going
34:35
to be pleased as punch to know that
34:38
a mere two weeks after they've gone on sale
34:40
the first I believe 250 packages are going
34:45
out in the mail. I said well by the time you
34:47
hear this because the week is the week
34:50
is starting in 12 hours or
34:52
whatever. The first 250
34:54
packages including the autographed
34:57
photos and some of the books that
34:59
were ordered in those packages and etc
35:01
and then by next week an
35:04
equivalent number will be going out because now
35:06
me and the feather bottoms got this thing
35:08
flying and I would
35:11
say by the time the third
35:13
week rolls around everyone's packages will
35:15
be either delivered or in the
35:17
mail and we will
35:19
be caught up and still of course
35:21
ready to service the ongoing public because
35:23
you can order at any time with
35:25
complete impunity. Right now
35:27
at jimcornet.com, the Eaton
35:29
and Condrey action figure set, the Eaton
35:31
and Lane action figure set and the
35:34
Heavenly Body's that's outpacing everybody because it's
35:37
their first and last figure set and
35:40
limited to 500 is now in the last 200
35:45
left. So none of these are
35:47
gonna be remade as we've talked about or others
35:50
done in the future because I'm getting too old
35:52
for this shit but the final
35:55
chapter of the Midnight Express 40th anniversary
35:57
celebration is going out with a bang
35:59
with these in the wonderful
36:01
display boxes that look marvelous as
36:03
they sit on your library shelf
36:06
or whatever shelf you
36:09
have in whatever room in your house, they make
36:11
a shrine, light some
36:13
candles, maybe, I
36:15
don't know, ground up a bird and a
36:18
bird's bones and mix it with Eye of
36:20
Newt and draw a pentagram in front of
36:22
the action fan. They'll come to life and
36:24
begin speaking to you. They won't do that
36:26
and they won't stay away from fire. Only
36:29
if you drink the tea containing
36:32
the peyote that we eat, if you
36:34
order the deluxe pack. No, you're not
36:37
sending peyote. First of all, no. And
36:40
there is a recipe for the
36:43
tea, then you do the pentagram,
36:45
then you set it on fire right there
36:47
in your bedroom and as the flames leap
36:50
ever higher, the action figures come to
36:52
life and put it out in the
36:54
savior ass. Right
36:57
now at jimcornett.com. No. You
37:01
can just read the information there on
37:03
the website. It'll tell you basically everything
37:05
you need to know. The figures are
37:07
there, the fantasies of arson are in
37:09
your own head but Cornett's collectibles at
37:11
jimcornett.com. But the fantasies of arson, it's
37:13
a carefully, it's a controlled burn. It's
37:17
a fantasy of arson. It's
37:20
a controlled burn under
37:23
strictly fucking, you
37:26
know, scientific procedures. Witchcraft
37:28
is a recognized science.
37:31
Is it a coincidence that you're describing
37:33
the plot to... What
37:36
was it? I was a teenage monster? The
37:40
end in color? Yeah.
37:45
I could be stealing a bit.
37:47
We want to thank our friends over
37:49
at MeTV including the incomparable Svenguli himself,
37:52
the boss of the whole Rat
37:54
Pack over there and everybody because they
37:57
reran How to Make
38:00
monster last night as
38:02
we speak here and included with
38:04
their bonus footage, the footage
38:07
of me at Lisa Marie Varen
38:10
Victoria's late lamented
38:12
squared circle restaurant in Chicago. It's not
38:15
there anymore, unfortunately. She moved back to
38:17
California, but what a great place it
38:19
was. But I had a burger eating
38:21
challenge with Sven
38:23
Gulli up there and it aired... that's
38:26
probably been what? Seven years ago now. And
38:30
they re-ran it for... because now I
38:32
guess it... if they only run it
38:34
once every seven years, they get out of paying
38:37
me any royalties or any
38:39
kind of goddamn Union scale or anything.
38:41
It's probably why they're doing that. So
38:43
look for it again in 2031 with
38:46
Haley's Comet. Was she named after
38:48
Lisa Marie Presley? Just
38:50
because... was Lisa Marie a common name
38:52
before that point? Well,
38:55
okay. That's the first time that anybody has ever
38:57
asked me that question and I'm trying to think...
38:59
First time I've ever thought of it. Well,
39:04
no. I'm just... I was trying to
39:06
think... Lisa Marie is the daughter, right?
39:08
Every time you keep calling her Lisa
39:10
Marie, I'm thinking of Elvis saying Lisa
39:12
Marie. Okay, but still Lisa Marie Presley
39:14
would be still older than Lisa Marie
39:16
Varen, but no. There's
39:19
all kinds of Lisa Marie's down south.
39:22
I don't... I don't know if... Well, but
39:25
she was from California. Well, Lisa Marie Presley
39:27
wasn't the first Lisa Marie. Like
39:30
a Billy Goa, Bobby Joe and a Betty Joe.
39:32
Of course. But
39:34
I don't... you'd have to ask her parents.
39:38
I'm not sure if they'd divulge that kind of
39:40
information to somebody like you. Well,
39:42
we will find out on a future
39:44
episode. The investigation continues. Well,
39:47
never the last... but we would finish
39:49
thanking Svenguli. Thank you Sven for
39:51
showing that. It reminded me that
39:53
I... Unfortunately,
39:55
I lost the challenge due to the last-minute
39:57
commission ruling about the double order of fries.
40:00
And I still say that I was, I
40:02
was horn swaggled and bum-fuzzled.
40:06
There was high jinks and hoodwinks going on. You
40:08
know, I think it's time to mix up the
40:10
lineup a little bit with Sci-Fi Saturday nights on
40:13
MeTV. I would think, I
40:15
don't know, after a while you got to give a
40:18
cold shack arrest, because it's the same episodes over and
40:20
over again. There's only one season and
40:22
as much as I am a cold
40:24
shack and Darren McGavin Nightstalker fan, no,
40:26
some of them weren't it, dog. So
40:29
there has to be something else you could slide in there
40:31
after, cause it's perfect. It's like Svenguli, Batman,
40:34
Star Trek. So now we're just 1966 in color.
40:37
It's great. And then it goes to cold
40:39
shack. Time
40:43
tunnel. Well, time tunnel,
40:45
they can move up, uh, oh
40:47
my God, all of a sudden, lost in space. I can't
40:49
remember their names all of a sudden. Lost in space. They
40:51
have, uh, other shows they can move up and slide in.
40:54
Then here's the thing, cause
40:56
again, bless cold shacks, little pea picking hard.
40:59
But it's the same, what is there? I
41:01
think there's 20, is there 20 episodes,
41:04
but it was one season and it wasn't
41:06
a full season plus the movies plus
41:09
the, well, but I'm talking about an hour,
41:11
you know, in it to put
41:13
in that hour time slot, you've
41:15
already got lost in space. They got voyaged to the bottom
41:17
of the sea, right? Put
41:20
stick time tunnel in there. Get a
41:22
fucking Irwin Allen block going on overnight.
41:24
Like Petucino used to do with superstars
41:26
of wrestling, the super shows of Irwin
41:28
Allen, the invaders, even though
41:30
that is not an Irwin Allen show it, uh, you
41:33
know, it kind of fits that genre.
41:38
You know, just, just a thought to our
41:40
friends over there. Yeah, I'm with
41:42
you. I like cold shack, but it's time
41:45
for a break. And again, 1966, the first
41:47
shows that were like network prime time
41:49
in color, Batman, Star Trek, and then
41:51
you go to the seventies and like
41:53
the print of cold check sucks, so
41:55
it's like blur and blurry, but a
41:57
grainy, even though it's on HDTV.
42:00
And then you go to lost in space and you're back to
42:02
looking like beautiful TV, either black and white
42:04
or 1966. But
42:06
the pastels, the pastel, but
42:09
also, you know, to be honest though, the
42:11
black and white voyage to the bottom of
42:13
the seas, I think worked better because they
42:15
were not only like the black and white
42:17
lost in spaces, they were more serious. But
42:20
also you don't expect things to be colorful in
42:22
a submarine with a bunch of soldiers. And
42:25
it's going to be drab, right? All
42:30
right. Well, this is a turn. Well,
42:32
anyway, well, speaking of cold,
42:34
Jack, a an aging balding
42:36
newsman who has
42:39
lost his grip on
42:41
the pulse of America. And at the
42:43
same time is rapidly being pushed down
42:45
the list from major news service to
42:48
minor news service. Let's
42:50
talk about uncle Dave. What
42:53
now? Well, I
42:55
understand that they gave out some awards
42:57
of the year for wrestling over at
42:59
the, uh, the, the fine
43:01
folks that observe all this stuff, the
43:04
W O N awards. And,
43:08
uh, some of them I have understand to have,
43:10
have given new meaning and new weight
43:12
and new gravity to the word preposterous.
43:17
Well, we can find out the wrestling observer newsletter 2023 awards
43:19
are just published in the February 26, 2024 issue. Here's what
43:22
it says. The
43:28
following are the results of the 43rd
43:30
annual wrestling observer newsletter readership awards, along
43:34
with a listing of the previous winners in the various categories. On
43:38
a worldwide basis. These
43:40
are the most covered mainstream international pro wrestling awards. The
43:44
awards are based. Again, again, isn't that really like being the
43:46
nicest guy in prison? The
43:51
awards are based on the timeframe from January
43:53
1st, 2023 through December 31st, 2023. And
43:57
the readers are encouraged to send an email. their
44:00
comments on the results.
44:05
And the people that vote for
44:07
these awards are the people that
44:09
read Dave's publication,
44:11
right? Well, not
44:13
all of them. They are only open, I believe,
44:15
to subscribers. But for example, I am a subscriber.
44:17
I've been getting it since 1993. I
44:21
may have voted in the year-end awards five times.
44:23
Well, yes. But I'm saying, to vote
44:25
in his awards, you would have to
44:28
have knowledge of the awards in his
44:30
publication and read it on, if
44:32
not regularly, a somewhat regular
44:35
basis to want to vote in the fucking
44:37
thing to begin with, right? You
44:39
would think so, yes. Okay. So
44:42
the voting pool is
44:44
somewhat colored by... I
44:46
would think more people read
44:49
Uncle Dave's writing because they agree
44:51
with him than the ones that disagree with him
44:54
because all of us have thrown up our hands
44:56
and just gone, I can't take it anymore. Well,
44:59
these are the Category A awards. They
45:02
are determined by points on a five to
45:04
three to two basis. Okay. And
45:06
there has to be some kind of mathematical
45:09
formula. This is like the Electoral College of
45:11
Wrestling with Dave. Even if
45:13
you get all the votes, you got to have the right
45:15
kind of votes because some of them have more points than
45:17
the other kind of votes. First
45:19
place votes are in parentheses. Of
45:21
course they are. Me, what? The
45:25
lu... Second place... Second
45:28
place votes are in brackets. And
45:31
third place votes are in quotation marks.
45:34
The lu says slash Ric
45:36
Flair award for wrestler of
45:38
the year, the winner
45:41
with 302 first place votes
45:45
and a total of 1,814 points, will osprey. And
45:53
second place, 119 first place votes with 1,330 total points. Cody
46:01
Rhodes. Oh my,
46:03
if only if Cody puts his
46:06
nose to the grindstone and he
46:08
works real hard and
46:10
he dedicates himself to that
46:13
upward mobility, someday he can
46:15
dream of having
46:18
the career that Will Ostrich has. What?
46:50
Mr. Rollins. He's a... Wait
46:52
a minute. Mr. Rollins is out points or out
46:54
places or out ranks or shits
46:57
on Seth Rollins in the Wrestler of the
46:59
Year top 10. Well,
47:01
Mr. Rollins got 30. Now I'm going to do the first place
47:03
votes again. 34 first place votes to
47:05
Seth Rollins is 8. Oh,
47:08
well, there's it right there. You
47:11
can't come back from that. No, look at the points
47:13
here. 500 or 458 to 227. There's
47:16
just no contest here. Mr.
47:18
Rollins, we have Kazushka. Once he
47:21
lost Virginia, the tide turned. We
47:23
have Kazushka, Okada in 8th place
47:25
followed by Kento, Miyahara in 9th
47:28
place. What? 8th
47:30
and 9th place. You have a problem with that? Who
47:36
is Kento, Yamahara to
47:38
begin with? Even when we covered Dave's
47:40
Dribble, I've never heard that name written
47:43
out or
47:45
spoken before. Have you?
47:47
You know the O'Shea Jackson rule. O'Shea Jackson
47:49
Jr. Excuse me. You know the
47:51
rule. You're not allowed to ask who is this person when it comes
47:53
to anyone that you don't know. Just accept that they are there and
47:56
they are great and you're not with it. in
48:00
the world, apparently. And we have a tie
48:02
for 10th place with zero first place votes,
48:05
but 123 total points,
48:09
a tie between Tam Nakano and
48:11
Jon Moxley with
48:14
honorable mentions for Orange Cassidy,
48:17
Kenny Omega, and CM Punk.
48:22
CM Punk is an honorable mention.
48:25
Uh, and he's in the also
48:27
category with somebody actually voted for
48:31
Orange Cassidy. A hundred
48:33
and fifty points. For wrestler of the year wrote that
48:36
unironically, do you think? Is somebody
48:38
trolling Dave or
48:40
Pockets or both of them by just
48:43
saying, well, let's just write
48:45
down comedy shit and see if he takes it seriously.
48:47
I don't think it's trolling. If there was ever an
48:50
audience forum, it's the voting
48:52
body of the observer rewards by and
48:54
large, you would think, not necessarily all
48:56
the readership, but the people that are
48:59
very involved in being involved. Yeah. Cause
49:01
that body's in pretty bad shape and
49:03
may need to fucking paddles. Claire. Well,
49:06
here's what, uh, Dave wrote, will Osprey
49:08
30 ended up pretty
49:10
clear cut winner, especially as pertain
49:13
to first place votes in
49:16
a race that was- Is that one
49:18
of those automatic translations on fucking
49:20
Twitter where he's a translate this?
49:23
Well, I actually took out a word cause it just
49:25
says PT ended
49:28
up as a, ended up a
49:30
pretty clear cut winner, especially as
49:32
PT pertained to first place votes
49:36
in a race that was hardest to call for wrestler of
49:38
the year in many years. Unlike
49:41
with most years, Nick gooless
49:43
every week, low of a
49:45
wrench and fast Tuesday night, you stole one of
49:47
the biggest counts I've signed in many years. Unlike
49:50
with most years, when it's usually obvious
49:52
who was going to win the award. This
49:55
year, it was unclear with strong arguments for all
49:57
of the top four. and
50:00
he expected Roman Reigns as the
50:02
top guy in WWE. Yeah, thanks. Champion
50:04
all year and WWE
50:07
setting business records and his part
50:09
in major matches with Sami Zayn,
50:12
Cody Rhodes, and Jey Uso.
50:15
But he had a limited schedule. And
50:17
part of this award is having a lot of great
50:20
matches during the year as well as
50:22
value to the box
50:24
office and influence. Then why
50:26
were Moxley and Pockets even on it? How
50:29
were they in consideration when
50:31
they don't have great matches at any point in
50:33
the year and they have no value to the box
50:35
office? Well, to be fair, they got no first place
50:37
votes. So that means someone who voted, you're allowed to
50:40
vote for three people, they either got second place
50:42
or third place votes. No one said that they are
50:44
the very best, but it was like, yeah, I'll put
50:46
them on my list. Oh, well, they got in the
50:48
top 10 because they were third place on 17 people's
50:51
list. Well,
50:53
let's move on as a lot of awards here. I
50:55
will skip- Yeah, I think you can skip a few
50:57
of them. I'm going to skip the MMA ones for
51:00
sure. Is that okay with you? Well
51:02
that's okay because I wouldn't really grasp
51:05
the magnitude of the preposterosity of
51:07
the UFC or
51:09
MMA awards as we're not keeping close
51:12
track. The most
51:14
outstanding wrestler award in
51:16
first place with 548 first place votes and a total of
51:20
3,086 points will Osprey. Oh,
51:24
good lord. So AEW has got a real
51:27
winner now in their hands, wrestler
51:29
of the year and most outstanding wrestler.
51:32
And it's so coincidental that he's
51:34
the next wave of the guy
51:37
that Uncle Dave has been screaming
51:39
about that he's the greatest thing
51:41
that's ever happened since Kenny. And
51:45
now that Kenny has a
51:48
problem with his guts and can't
51:50
wrestle anymore, Uncle
51:52
Dave has to have a new champion, a
51:54
new hero, a new he-man. You
51:57
think he's got Ostrich's postery? He
52:00
unrolled it over the top of Kenny's and just
52:02
thumbtacked him right over on his wall across from
52:04
the foot of his bed. I think
52:06
that's a little crazy, but let's go through the rest
52:08
of the most outstanding- Have you seen the pictures of
52:10
his office? Maybe he's cleaned it.
52:13
I haven't seen anything recent. Those are all old
52:15
photos. I'm sure things have changed. Well, they didn't
52:17
have a lot of modern shit of Dahmer at
52:19
first. You know, they had to go back in
52:21
the files. Well, hold on. Dave's crazy a little
52:24
bit, but let's not compare him to Dahmer. Well,
52:26
I'm just saying a lot of people don't take
52:28
modern pictures, current pictures. The rest of the
52:30
top 10 for most outstanding, number two,
52:32
Bryan Danielson, number three, Kenny
52:35
Omega, number four, Zack
52:37
Sabre Jr., number
52:39
five, Kento Miyahara, number
52:42
six, Gunther, number
52:45
seven, Kazushka Okade, number
52:48
eight, Shingo Takagi, number
52:51
nine, Orange Cassidy, number
52:54
10, Mike Bailey, honorable mentions,
52:56
Jon Moxley, MJF, Seth Rollins,
52:59
and Eddie Kingston. Name's, name's, name's running through
53:01
my head. Who was the one shit on
53:03
a shingle? What?
53:06
Um, what? Shingle...
53:08
What happened? I don't know what just happened.
53:13
He just rattled off a
53:15
bunch of fucking alleged names.
53:17
Oh, Shingo Takagi. Ah!
53:20
One on a shingle. And
53:24
so go down a little
53:26
slower from the top down
53:29
and let's see
53:31
where these people's heads at. Once
53:33
again, this is most outstanding. Will
53:36
Osprey. Okay. Number two, Bryan
53:38
Danielson. Yeah. Number three, Kenny
53:40
Omega. Yeah. Number four, Zack
53:42
Sabre Jr. Yeah. Number
53:45
five, Kento Miyahara. I
53:47
don't have any idea. We'll pass.
53:49
Number six, Gunther. There you
53:51
go. Stop there. That's
53:54
what I'm saying. Gunther, As
53:56
most outstanding wrestler, not only
53:58
is perfect at... Presenting.
54:00
Himself, his matches are
54:03
always exciting and believable.
54:06
He's. A Logical: he knows how to put the
54:08
thing together, He knows how to get himself over
54:10
and knows how to put other guy should overdue
54:12
even when he's dealing with. Smaller.
54:15
Greener or fucking less
54:17
accomplished individuals. You'd. Never
54:19
see him have a staggered. he always gets
54:21
the most out of everything. And a fucking
54:23
guys over. And
54:25
he looks like he could kick the
54:27
shit out of all five of the
54:29
fucking people in front of a I'm.
54:32
At. The same time. Said.
54:34
Sabre Jr. looks like goddamn Q
54:37
tip. And Vulcans
54:39
a Danielson. Bless him He is
54:41
accomplished. Pro. One of the
54:43
smoothest and the best in the in the world
54:46
at one time. These. Bad to
54:48
retire and he hasn't had. The.
54:51
Greatest of matches over the last year because
54:53
didn't get hurt and to have like the
54:55
four of them. And
54:57
is and and these and again.
55:00
The. Flip the fucking
55:02
darling. Crash.
55:04
T V crowd or whatever
55:06
that. Goods
55:09
is more valuable. Then
55:12
you know of unread and am taken
55:14
Danielson out of this good. There's more
55:16
because of his name, his reputation in
55:19
Sadr, even though he's doing some screwing
55:21
things these days. But. Good there
55:23
is more valuable than all those other guys ahead
55:25
of him on the roster together as a name
55:27
on your card to. Attract people
55:29
are on your show. To attract
55:32
viewers is just goddamn business. And.
55:35
They can't. Average
55:37
air. I don't understand what's going
55:39
to. Tag team of the year Southern A Midnight
55:41
Express have one in the past. Tense.
55:44
Him as he were three As and forty four
55:47
first place votes and two thousand, three hundred and
55:49
forty one total points. As
55:51
tr. Eighty
55:53
Can't argue with the fact again
55:56
that F T Are are the
55:58
most accomplished tag team. in
56:00
the ring in the business
56:03
today. They've been presented like
56:05
complete shit and we'll talk about that later
56:07
on. But I think even
56:09
the AEW crowd has
56:14
to begrudgingly admit that
56:17
the guys that don't give them the flips
56:19
in this case are still that good but
56:21
it doesn't help them be presented any better.
56:24
But it's refreshing to see that
56:26
even this audience not
56:29
only recognizes that but apparently the love
56:31
affair with the kooka-monga kids is
56:33
over with because they didn't make top five this
56:36
year, did they? Well I'll go through the list
56:38
here and it really falls off quick and it
56:40
shows the sad state of tag team wrestling but
56:43
the Bucks didn't do much this year which makes
56:45
it stand out even more that they're even on
56:47
the list. One FTR, two Kevin Owens and Sami
56:49
Zayn. Three, they're broken
56:51
up. Hiroki Goto and Yoshi
56:54
Hashi. Okay. Four,
56:56
Takuyo Nomura. Oh come
56:58
on. And Fuminori Abe
57:01
I believe. Oh followed
57:05
by number five the Young Bucks. 42
57:07
first place votes. 42 first
57:10
place votes. So it's still
57:12
okay. Maybe I
57:14
was willing to give these people
57:16
too much benefit of the doubt. The
57:18
rest of the top ten Mark Davis and Kyle
57:21
Fletcher at six. Number
57:23
seven Francesco Akira
57:26
and TJP. Who are
57:28
these fucking people? Number
57:30
eight the Usos. Number
57:34
nine June and Ray Saito.
57:37
And number ten the acclaimed. With
57:39
11 first place votes.
57:41
Alright well the only two
57:44
out of the three we've heard
57:46
of the acclaimed obviously. The
57:48
other two tag teams in the top ten
57:50
that anybody ever fucking heard of. Sami
57:53
Zayn, Kevin Owens and the
57:55
Usos have been broken up. No
57:58
there are no tag teams in any. these
58:00
fucking companies that are over and
58:02
worth the shit, which is again,
58:04
you know, more of the tragedy of FTR
58:07
being the, you know,
58:11
do they feel like the last unicorn is there
58:14
any way for them to somehow inseminate
58:17
somebody with the grasp of, and
58:20
I mean, even they they're trying so hard,
58:22
but what the fuck
58:24
is the rest of that really seriously. And
58:27
we ought to be all ashamed of ourselves
58:29
as a collective wrestling industry, that
58:31
that's the state of tag team wrestling. Let's
58:34
talk about the state of interviews, best
58:36
on interviews, an award you previously won
58:38
four times or five times. Yeah. How
58:40
come awards get named after Luzez,
58:43
Ric Flair, Daddy Hodge,
58:45
Koichi Yoshizawa, Bruiser
58:49
Brody, but I don't get this
58:51
award named after me. Or
58:54
the, or either that, or the non-wrestling personality
58:57
renamed it from manager of the year, I'd
58:59
have one of these words named after me
59:01
after I won 12 or 13 of
59:04
them. Well, you are a
59:06
five time winner of best on interviews. Uh,
59:10
I don't know if anyone else has wanted
59:12
this, I'm going to call it the Jim
59:14
Cornette Memorial best on interviews. Well, wait, don't
59:16
call it Memorial. Well, Dave, maybe that's the
59:19
loophole. I don't want it yet. Oh, okay.
59:21
We'll go, but if he'll do the non-wrestling
59:23
personality slash manager of the year for that.
59:26
Well, best on interviews with 199. Watching
59:28
beef addictive and name it after Heyman. Well,
59:31
they're still friends. 199 first place votes. Eddie
59:35
Kingston, also 1483 points right on
59:37
his tail. Second
59:43
with 141st place votes and 1441 total points. So
59:50
just within, within reach MJF
59:55
number three, Kristin cage number
59:57
four, John Moxley. Oh, good.
1:00:00
Lord. Number five, Cody Rhodes. Wait
1:00:02
a minute. Wait a minute. You
1:00:04
can find somebody standing on a wooden
1:00:06
crate wearing a bathrobe in the middle
1:00:08
of Central Park that speaks as coherently
1:00:10
as Moxley does. And
1:00:12
if Tony Khan had a little bit of Jack Pfeffer in him,
1:00:14
they would get him on the show and make
1:00:17
him a star. But they haven't. Cody
1:00:20
Rhodes at five, six, Brian Danielson,
1:00:22
Will Osprey at seven, CM
1:00:25
Punk at eight, LA United 9,
1:00:27
and Don Callis, number 10. Wait
1:00:31
a minute. And who was top three again? Eddie
1:00:34
Kingston, MJF, and
1:00:36
Christian Cage. So
1:00:39
you've got people, and again,
1:00:41
this is not in
1:00:45
any way detrimental or insulting
1:00:47
trying to be to Eddie
1:00:49
Kingston, who's good
1:00:51
in short bursts with his
1:00:53
passion and his fervor
1:00:55
and whatever, but you
1:00:58
can't in any universe
1:01:00
explain to me how
1:01:02
someone could consider anyone
1:01:04
except potentially Cody Rhodes or
1:01:07
CM Punk, depending on your
1:01:09
tastes and preferences, as
1:01:12
the equivalent of a verbal
1:01:14
performer in wrestling or
1:01:16
any other genre as
1:01:18
MJF. It's just
1:01:21
ridiculous. A bunch of Eddie's friends
1:01:24
from the independents and
1:01:27
fans from the independents banded together to
1:01:29
do something nice for him, I think,
1:01:31
here because you can't objectively, and that's
1:01:35
no disrespect, Christian Cage. He's
1:01:37
good. He's not in the
1:01:39
level of Cody or Punk or MJF and nobody
1:01:41
else on this list is either. You're
1:01:44
not being objective. Yeah, he's got an incredibly
1:01:46
lame, which is, oh, your father's dead, or,
1:01:49
oh, your wife's horrible, whatever the fuck he
1:01:51
says. Yeah. And
1:01:54
sooner or later, everybody's going to end up dead. So
1:01:57
his gimmick is evergreen. The
1:02:00
problem is it's the green, it stinks. Well,
1:02:02
let's go Jim now to promotion of the
1:02:04
year. Uh-oh. Wait
1:02:07
a minute.
1:02:10
Hold on
1:02:12
here. There's
1:02:15
another one of those things that Tony Khan is
1:02:17
going to have to talk to his eventual therapist
1:02:19
about. With 406 first place votes and 2,359
1:02:21
total points. World
1:02:26
Wrestling Entertainment. Boom. In
1:02:30
second place, All
1:02:32
Elite Wrestling previously
1:02:34
won, let's see, in 2020, 2021, and 2022. So
1:02:38
previous three-time winner. Dthroned, here's
1:02:40
what Dave wrote. Help me finish the
1:02:42
top ten. New Japan Pro Wrestling in third. CMLL
1:02:45
fourth, UFC five. All
1:02:48
Japan six. Stardom seven. Impact
1:02:51
eight. And
1:02:53
Dragon Gate number nine. Goddamn,
1:02:56
Impact can't even beat Stardom. Impact
1:02:58
is the only promotion on this
1:03:00
list with no first place votes.
1:03:04
Oh, that's just like... Oh.
1:03:08
After a record-setting year when it came
1:03:10
to big show viewership and gates, and
1:03:13
being among the most consistent rating draws
1:03:15
in television, the WWE
1:03:18
captured this award over AEW, which
1:03:20
had won it the past three years. You
1:03:23
know it kills him to be rightness. WWE's
1:03:25
success with multiple stadium shows,
1:03:28
creating major matches throughout the year, and
1:03:31
pulling away from AEW after what at
1:03:33
times was a very competitive race. It
1:03:36
was the first time WWE had won
1:03:38
this award since the Attitude Era, a
1:03:41
combination of their turn around and
1:03:43
the struggles at the box office of AEW,
1:03:45
New Japan, and
1:03:48
Stardom. So
1:03:50
I'll stop there, but... Well,
1:03:53
even the choir that he's been
1:03:55
preaching to for
1:03:58
so long has figured out there is a...
1:04:00
ain't no invisible supreme
1:04:02
being in the sky.
1:04:04
It's just Tony and
1:04:06
his disorganized frazzled personality.
1:04:09
Well, speaking of just Tony, let's go to best
1:04:11
weekly TV show. First place with 430 total, wait,
1:04:14
I keep doing this. With
1:04:16
430 votes and 2,707 points, AEW
1:04:18
Dynamite, which has won it every year of its
1:04:26
existence going back to 2019, and second
1:04:29
place, AEW Collision. Wait,
1:04:32
wait, hold up, what? Followed
1:04:34
by SmackDown. No. Followed
1:04:36
by CMLL Super Viurnes or
1:04:38
V-V- what does this say?
1:04:42
Viurne- sorry, ladies and gentlemen, the observer
1:04:44
has small print. Followed by
1:04:46
NXT, followed by Raw,
1:04:48
followed by AEW Rampage, followed
1:04:51
by New Japan on Axis, followed
1:04:53
by Impact Wrestling with no first
1:04:56
place votes once again. Goddamn point,
1:04:58
Impact! Followed by We
1:05:00
Are Startup. Christ! Oh,
1:05:05
so I can understand
1:05:07
that they want their
1:05:09
thing, this thing of theirs to
1:05:11
be in the
1:05:13
first place, they vote for Dynamite,
1:05:15
but they're trying to actually say
1:05:17
with straight faces again that Collision
1:05:19
is a better show than SmackDown.
1:05:21
It's on network television doing two
1:05:23
and a half million people. Well,
1:05:27
Jim, the pro wrestling match of the
1:05:29
year, previously known, I believe as
1:05:31
match of the year, the winner
1:05:34
with 474 first place votes in 3,018 total points. Who
1:05:40
did Will Ostrich wrestle? Will
1:05:42
Ospreay versus Kenny Omega, January
1:05:44
4th in the Tokyo Dome.
1:05:48
The passing of Meltzer's Palace,
1:05:51
instead of a torch, they had a
1:05:54
big fucking dildo and
1:05:56
they wrote Dave's name on the side of
1:05:58
it. They
1:06:00
could only write Dave. They couldn't write Meltzer because they
1:06:02
didn't have enough room. And
1:06:05
Kenny handed it off to Willie. In
1:06:09
second place. They call it the hand
1:06:11
jive. Willie and the hand jive. In
1:06:13
second place from June
1:06:15
25th in Toronto, Kenny Omega
1:06:17
versus Will Osprey. In
1:06:22
third place, MJF versus Brian
1:06:24
Daniels in San Francisco, March 5th. Oh
1:06:27
yeah, that couldn't possibly compare to
1:06:29
the two leaping
1:06:32
Andretti brothers. Followed in fourth
1:06:34
place by Swerve Shrickland versus
1:06:36
Adam Page, November 18th
1:06:39
in Los Angeles. Oh good Lord.
1:06:41
That was the garbage match spectacular,
1:06:43
wasn't it? Followed by FCR versus
1:06:46
White and Robinson. Oh,
1:06:48
okay. The greatest tag team match
1:06:50
of modern times and all of
1:06:52
television history managed to
1:06:55
come in number five behind the
1:06:57
preening prancing primadonnas. Followed
1:06:59
by Brian Danielson versus Zack Saver Jr.
1:07:03
Followed by Ketsuhiku
1:07:05
Nakajima versus Kento
1:07:07
Miyahara. Fuck. July 15th. Followed
1:07:11
by Will Osprey versus Tetsuya Naito.
1:07:14
Followed by Queen's Quest versus
1:07:18
Odo Tai. What? June 25th in
1:07:20
Tokyo. Wait a
1:07:22
bit. What number of match of the year
1:07:25
is that on the list? That's number
1:07:27
nine with 19 first place votes and 189
1:07:29
total points. How
1:07:31
did fucking 19 people
1:07:34
see that match? Who are those
1:07:36
people? I couldn't
1:07:38
tell you. My first guess would be
1:07:40
we are stardom, but who knows? And
1:07:42
finally, number 10 on the list. Gunther
1:07:44
versus Sheamus versus Drew McIntyre. Well,
1:07:49
at least they squeaked in under the wire.
1:07:52
We will now go to the category B
1:07:54
awards. These are determined by
1:07:56
first place votes only. Lick, ladies and gentlemen,
1:07:58
these are even less. important. But
1:08:01
once again, these are determined by first place votes only. And
1:08:03
when you ask about who's voting on this, if
1:08:06
Dave has a few thousand
1:08:08
subscribers, let's say, you could
1:08:10
tell based on the first place votes, if you add them
1:08:12
up, just a general idea of what a
1:08:14
small percentage of his readership are
1:08:17
actually voting on these things. But
1:08:19
the United States and Canada MVP,
1:08:23
in first place, Cody
1:08:25
Rhodes with 268 votes,
1:08:29
followed by Bryan Danielson, MJF,
1:08:32
Roman Reigns, John
1:08:35
Moxley, Irish Cassidy,
1:08:37
Kenny Omega, CM
1:08:40
Punk, Seth Rollins, and Sami
1:08:42
Zane with an honorable mention for
1:08:44
Christian Cage. Oh,
1:08:47
how honorable can you be when
1:08:49
you can't even place in a top 10
1:08:51
with that crew? What do you think Cody
1:08:53
Rhodes, a US, Canada MVP? I
1:08:56
think that's fair to say. I
1:08:58
think that's something that's so obvious that you
1:09:00
can't really deny it, which is why he
1:09:02
won this thing with this skewed voting base.
1:09:06
And then they got to begrudgingly stick Roman
1:09:08
Reigns in there because he's the, you know,
1:09:11
on top of the biggest drawing shows in
1:09:13
the world. But again,
1:09:15
I think
1:09:18
if they are actually making new fans
1:09:21
that believe in some universe
1:09:23
that people like pockets and these
1:09:25
comedy figures that they place on
1:09:28
these lists or these just obscure
1:09:31
whoever's that they put
1:09:33
on these lists are over, I
1:09:35
think that's what's driving the
1:09:37
long time fans of wrestling away.
1:09:39
We have to look at shit
1:09:41
like this. Can they really be
1:09:44
important enough to these people? Or again,
1:09:46
is this just trolling
1:09:48
voting or what's
1:09:52
the, as the kids say, the ironic voting?
1:09:56
I can't see how anybody would put
1:09:58
these people on in that company. The.
1:10:00
In a logical universe. Or.
1:10:03
We now go to the Koichi
1:10:06
Yoshizawa Award for Japanese Mvp. Will.
1:10:09
Ah, spray slicer. Thirty four
1:10:11
votes. Did. Anybody from Japan actually
1:10:14
get to be an Mvp in Japan.
1:10:16
Hundred will so elisa know he's your
1:10:18
winters non japanese hall by Okada. Now
1:10:20
you tell me. Ahora! A
1:10:22
Yoga a D A yo a
1:10:24
a miata. Jozy
1:10:27
out about the name is
1:10:29
a yo Tam economy hello
1:10:31
to the goose guy Julio
1:10:34
Sonata, Chino and my you
1:10:36
know. You.
1:10:38
Can lose your ass. Play it as yet.
1:10:41
The. Mexico Mvp gym me sick
1:10:43
though me see go foul
1:10:45
by l he hotel by
1:10:47
to go up smoking romero.
1:10:50
Wait, A minute. Wait A minute. The.
1:10:52
State of Wrestling and Mexico
1:10:54
right now is so. More.
1:10:58
A Bond and. Putrid,
1:11:00
And has the stench of grizzly
1:11:02
death upon it so badly that
1:11:04
the second biggest star in Mexico
1:11:07
is L. He whole deal viking
1:11:09
know. We've. Seen him
1:11:11
he is the ships. Was.
1:11:15
Not as bad as commander of
1:11:17
around. We have the list Rocky
1:11:19
Ramiro, Volvo Door Junior and Pentagon
1:11:21
Jr the Europe Mvp Gym. Will.
1:11:24
Ah Spray would settlements of ecstasy for
1:11:26
votes up for how does he have
1:11:28
time? What is your no guns. Airline
1:11:31
where he couldn't fly backwards around
1:11:33
the world And dirtbag time. How
1:11:35
his kitty possibly be. The.
1:11:37
Greatest wrestler on. Man.
1:11:39
Continents around the world, Old same
1:11:42
time, The. Hodge Award.
1:11:44
For. Non heavyweight Mvp Will
1:11:46
Osprey the winner El Hilo
1:11:49
though vaccine go abroad with.
1:11:53
No Oh no. them
1:11:55
spiking words. no
1:11:59
idea Yeah, shouldn't it? Danny
1:12:01
Hodge would have his handgun
1:12:03
out at whoever compared him
1:12:05
to El Hejo del Vikingo.
1:12:08
Can you imagine a bigger insult
1:12:10
than a guy? Danny
1:12:12
Hodge was a national sports hero in
1:12:14
the United States before he ever turned
1:12:17
professional wrestler and he was one of
1:12:19
the most feared men ever to step
1:12:22
foot in a wrestling ring. And
1:12:24
the only reason people are afraid of Vikingo
1:12:26
is they're afraid they're going to have to
1:12:28
fucking watch him. Well,
1:12:30
for the record El Hejo del Vikingo
1:12:32
won last year, this award was created
1:12:34
in 2018, the first two years the
1:12:36
winner was Will Ospreay and
1:12:40
in between Hiromu Takahashi and
1:12:42
Darby Allen also won the award, but
1:12:44
this year, the top 10 after Vikingo,
1:12:48
Takahashi, Darby Allen,
1:12:50
Orange Cassidy, Mystico,
1:12:53
Titan and El Desperado are
1:12:56
tied, followed by Mike Bailey, Brian
1:12:59
Danielson and Rocky Romero. The
1:13:03
women's wrestling MVP, Rhea
1:13:05
Ripley with 359 first place votes.
1:13:09
Well, and is that another one you
1:13:11
just can't deny because it's, it
1:13:14
would be ridiculous and to think
1:13:16
otherwise and, and
1:13:18
they're not fucking trolling. I don't know, but
1:13:21
who else is on the list? But I
1:13:23
mean, is there anybody else deserving of being
1:13:25
on the list? Well, this is our first
1:13:27
time winning. Also on the list are Julia,
1:13:30
Athena, Tam Nakano, Becky Lynch, Tony Storm, Suzu
1:13:33
Suzuki, Miu
1:13:35
Yamashita, Mayu
1:13:37
Iwatani, and Sury. Or
1:13:41
Sury. I don't know exactly how you pronounce it. S-Y-U-R-I.
1:13:44
Sury. Sury.
1:13:48
It's something in there. Sury,
1:13:50
Sury, you S-Sury. All
1:13:56
right, Tobu Jiju here on the show today. Ladies
1:14:00
and gentlemen, we've got a really
1:14:02
big show. I hear you at Topo G Joe and
1:14:05
Siri. Um, so
1:14:07
basically Becky Lynch and Rhea
1:14:09
Ripley are pretty
1:14:12
much the biggest wrestling women's wrestling stars in
1:14:14
the world and they like Tony storm. Cause
1:14:16
she's on their favorite little outlaw program. And
1:14:18
I don't know who this fucking, well,
1:14:20
let's go to feud of the year. Again, this
1:14:22
is another award that you in the midnight express
1:14:24
previously won for your feud with the fantastic. So
1:14:27
do they have feuds anymore? Well, feud
1:14:29
of the year, Sammy Zane and Kevin Owens
1:14:31
versus the bloodline, which you forget it's
1:14:33
a while ago, but that wasn't pretty hot thing for
1:14:36
the first quarter of last year. Yeah. Yeah. Followed
1:14:39
by Adam Page versus Swerve Strickland. Kento
1:14:42
Miyahara versus Katsuhiku
1:14:45
Nakajima. Oh, come on. Followed
1:14:47
by Kenny Omega versus Will
1:14:50
Ospre. Followed by Adam
1:14:52
Page versus Jon Moxley. Oh, good.
1:14:54
Followed by elite versus DCC. Oh,
1:14:58
followed by Rocky Romero versus Volador
1:15:01
Jr. Followed by
1:15:03
Roman Reigns versus Jay Uso. Followed
1:15:06
by Cody Rhodes versus Brock Lesnar
1:15:08
and coming in 10th MJF versus
1:15:11
the devil. So
1:15:13
I was right. They don't have feuds anymore.
1:15:17
I bet. What, what can you
1:15:19
even say? God, that's
1:15:21
embarrassing. Most improved.
1:15:25
With 117 votes, Julia Hart, most improved. I'd
1:15:31
have to hear who she's rating over the
1:15:33
top of before I could buy
1:15:35
that statement. In
1:15:38
second place, Dominik Mysterio. In
1:15:41
third place, Mariah May tied with
1:15:43
Shota Umino. Wait a
1:15:45
minute. How can Mariah May have improved?
1:15:47
We never saw her until fucking six
1:15:49
weeks ago. Well, he wrestled more than
1:15:51
once. The observer reader saw her in
1:15:53
her most primitive of stages. And then
1:15:55
of course she became a star in
1:15:57
stardom and now she takes that stardom.
1:16:00
To America to be the backup in
1:16:02
the coming form. Where she becomes
1:16:05
a shooting star that turns
1:16:07
into a comet and
1:16:09
sooner or later craters out in New
1:16:11
Mexico somewhere. Well number five on the
1:16:13
list swerve Strickland followed by
1:16:16
Yoda Tsuji followed by
1:16:18
Trik Williams followed by a
1:16:20
tie with Big Bill and
1:16:23
Hikuleo followed by
1:16:25
the Gun Brothers. I
1:16:29
like the Gun Brothers, I can't really
1:16:31
tell whether or not
1:16:34
they've improved over the last
1:16:36
year because they're usually in something
1:16:38
we either on something we don't watch or in
1:16:40
something we don't want to see. And
1:16:45
I don't know who most of the people on
1:16:47
that list are but I'll tell you what, I
1:16:49
think of all the names you mentioned, I'd
1:16:51
go with Big Bill. He
1:16:54
is worlds above speaking
1:16:56
and in the ring what
1:16:59
he looked like when we first saw him whether that was a
1:17:01
year ago or a year and a half or however long it's
1:17:03
been. I'd go with Big Bill,
1:17:06
I don't notice a noticeable
1:17:08
difference in any of those other people if
1:17:10
I could pick him out of a police
1:17:12
lineup. Well Dominick's gotten better at the art
1:17:15
of being a heel swerve Strickland, I don't know if
1:17:17
he's gotten better, he's just used better. He's
1:17:19
just using him better than I used him. And
1:17:22
I forgot about Dominick being on it when
1:17:24
I zoned out with some of those names
1:17:26
but Dominick just by virtue of having a
1:17:28
year's more experience is better but
1:17:32
I don't know if it's a drastic light
1:17:36
bulb moment or whether he's just getting better and
1:17:38
better, whatever. I think Big Bill,
1:17:41
when I first saw him, wasn't worth a shit and
1:17:44
it was like a year and a half ago. Dominick
1:17:47
wasn't worth two shits, it was a baby face when
1:17:49
we first saw him but that was what
1:17:51
about three years ago now or more. charismatic
1:18:01
I'll go through this one quickly the
1:18:03
winner MJF followed
1:18:05
by Roman Reigns, Kento
1:18:07
Miyahara, Julia, Cody
1:18:10
Rhodes, Eddie Kingston, Orange
1:18:13
Cassidy and Simon Punker tied, Swirl
1:18:18
Strickland, LA
1:18:20
Knight and Dominic Mysterio rounding out the
1:18:22
top ten. What the fuck? That's like
1:18:26
from one extreme to the other you
1:18:28
have the punks and Roman
1:18:30
Reigns and Cody's that have all the
1:18:32
personality and the magnetism and the charisma
1:18:34
in the world and then you go
1:18:37
to the fucking goofiest
1:18:39
preliminary bullshit you can find.
1:18:41
I don't
1:18:43
understand. Well the Bryan
1:18:46
Danielson Award for Best Technical
1:18:48
Wrestler. There's another one's named. I'm
1:18:50
telling you I want the Best
1:18:53
Non-Wrestling Performer Award. Well
1:18:55
the Bryan Danielson Award goes to Bryan
1:18:57
Danielson in first place with
1:18:59
549 votes followed by
1:19:01
only two other people got votes, Zack Sabre Jr.
1:19:04
with 427 votes and Josh
1:19:07
Alexander with 17 votes. Well
1:19:10
really how can you argue with that? Who
1:19:13
else should win the Bryan
1:19:15
Danielson Award with Bryan Danielson? In
1:19:17
the years that Bryan Danielson didn't win when he was
1:19:19
retired Zack Sabre Jr. won the award. So the only
1:19:21
two people to win it since
1:19:23
it was named after him are him and Zack Sabre
1:19:25
Jr. The Bruiser
1:19:28
Brody Memorial Award for Best
1:19:30
Brawler. The winner with 383 votes. Jon
1:19:33
Moxley. Oh good lord. Followed
1:19:36
by Tomohiro Uzi. Oh no,
1:19:38
I can't take it. Followed
1:19:40
by Adam Page, Eddie Kingston,
1:19:42
Gunther, Rush, or
1:19:45
Ruch, Shingo Takagi,
1:19:48
Julia, and then tied
1:19:50
is Samoa Joe and Sheamus with
1:19:52
seven votes. The
1:19:55
best one... Oh go ahead. Hold on, they
1:19:57
don't even know what they're talking about or
1:19:59
what... or what the description
1:20:01
of the category is apparently,
1:20:03
because Gunther is not
1:20:06
only a wrestler
1:20:08
but a wrestling heel. He's
1:20:12
not a brawler
1:20:14
at all. That's his whole
1:20:16
gimmick is that he's a physical athletic
1:20:18
wrestling heel as they used to say
1:20:20
in the old days. And
1:20:23
what they're looking for is apparently is
1:20:25
people who do stupid garbage wrestling and
1:20:28
they don't care whether it looks phony
1:20:30
or not. In
1:20:32
that case, Moxley is your
1:20:34
man. But
1:20:37
this is a whole audience where this
1:20:39
stuff is not embarrassing
1:20:42
to them and it is
1:20:44
to people who
1:20:46
have enjoyed wrestling for a long time
1:20:48
and respected it, considered it an
1:20:50
art rather than a place
1:20:53
where people who bite the
1:20:56
heads off chickens go to retire.
1:21:00
You can still see the feathers coming out of
1:21:02
Moxley's mouth. Well Jim, we will
1:21:04
go to Best Flying Wrestler. The
1:21:07
winner with 595 votes, El
1:21:09
Hijo Del Vikingo, followed by
1:21:12
Will Ospre, Ray Phoenix,
1:21:15
Mascara Dorada, Commander,
1:21:19
Neon, Ninja
1:21:21
Mac, Mystico,
1:21:24
El Phantasmo, The
1:21:27
Starlight Kid, and Titan.
1:21:31
To show you just
1:21:33
how badly the
1:21:37
knowledge of wrestling of the Observer
1:21:39
readers has eroded in the last
1:21:41
30 or 35
1:21:43
years since it's started
1:21:45
being published, you
1:21:49
know Bobby Eaton won Best Flying Wrestler
1:21:51
one year. And
1:21:55
just like Bruiser Brody would be embarrassed
1:21:57
to get in the ring with fucking
1:21:59
Jon Moxley, Bobby
1:22:01
would be embarrassed that these glorified
1:22:05
fucking B-level flunk out fucking
1:22:07
high school gymnast would be
1:22:11
in the running for any kind
1:22:14
of award in the wrestling business.
1:22:16
Their shit stinks. It looks phony.
1:22:18
It's contrived. It's fake. It's
1:22:21
horseshit. And it's
1:22:23
all interchangeable. That's
1:22:26
like picking the best fucking set
1:22:29
of legs on the 20 girl chorus line.
1:22:31
Who gives a shit? They're all fucking legs.
1:22:33
You can't tell them apart. It's
1:22:36
the stars you're looking at. I thought he
1:22:39
won that award too. He didn't. Bobby never
1:22:41
won best flying wrestler. He
1:22:43
won. I'm sorry. He did play
1:22:45
second. He won most, most underrated,
1:22:48
most underrated three times, three
1:22:50
separate times. Concurrently once, once or
1:22:52
twice when we were the world
1:22:55
tag team champions. Well, let's,
1:22:57
uh, we'll go to most underrated in a
1:22:59
moment. Most overrated number one, Sonata, followed
1:23:02
by Roman Reigns, CM
1:23:04
Punk, Tyrus,
1:23:08
MJF, Austin Theory,
1:23:10
Matt Jax, Chris Jericho,
1:23:12
LA Knight, and
1:23:15
Jake Lee. I
1:23:17
can understand them taking their venting
1:23:20
and frustration out on Punk because
1:23:22
he's successful despite their
1:23:24
best efforts. But why
1:23:26
are these people mad at MJF now? I
1:23:28
think he's overrated. Well, he
1:23:30
didn't have the best year, but
1:23:33
a lot of that was because of what he was working, who
1:23:36
he was working with in the feud and everything else, but most
1:23:39
underrated. Chad Gable
1:23:42
with 84 votes, followed
1:23:44
by Konosuke Takesta,
1:23:47
Daniel Garcia, Mike Bailey,
1:23:51
Yoda Tsuji, Ricochet,
1:23:54
Roosh, Commander,
1:23:58
Britt Baker, and Anna. page.
1:24:01
Where's gravity? He's
1:24:04
not underrated, he's rated just right.
1:24:08
Rookie of the year Jim, the winner,
1:24:10
I'm sure you already sang it in
1:24:12
your head, Yuma Anzai! Yuma
1:24:16
Anzai followed by
1:24:18
Action Andretti! Oh
1:24:21
come on!
1:24:26
Well that was number two, number three, Megan
1:24:28
Bain, number four,
1:24:31
Oleg Bolton, number five,
1:24:33
Kehlani Jordan, number
1:24:35
six, Oba Femi. Oh who
1:24:38
what? Number seven, Billy Starks. I've
1:24:40
heard of her. Hey who? Oba
1:24:42
Femi-nen. Oba Femi, O-B-A, and
1:24:45
then the last name is F-E-M-I.
1:24:47
Obie? Oba Femi. Obie Femi? Oba
1:24:49
Femi, I misspoke. Right before Oba
1:24:51
is Oleg Bolton. So Oleg Bolton,
1:24:53
Kehlani Jordan, Oba Femi. Wait a
1:24:55
minute, that was me.
1:24:57
Michael Bolton and Oleg Tatarov had a fucking
1:24:59
kid? Oleg Tatarov, very impressive that that'd be
1:25:02
the person you mentioned. I don't believe that
1:25:04
this is the spawn of them. How
1:25:07
about Oleg Cassini? I don't know why you think the
1:25:09
spawn of them would just take each of their name
1:25:11
and combine it together. I don't know which one of
1:25:13
them you think might have gotten
1:25:19
pregnant if what I was saying
1:25:21
had any basis in reality. Number
1:25:23
seven, Billy Starks, number eight, Santana
1:25:26
Jackson, tied with Futuro. That is
1:25:28
how you say that. And number ten, Wakana
1:25:31
Urahara for
1:25:33
Rookie of the Year. Best non-bre- What
1:25:36
was Bron Breaker was last year, right?
1:25:38
Bron Breaker won it last year. So
1:25:40
we go from Bron Breaker to that
1:25:43
fucking list, is there a future for
1:25:45
the wrestling business? What bunch
1:25:47
of fucking nobodies? Where is the last
1:25:50
five years? 2018 Rookie of the Year
1:25:52
Ronda Rousey? 2019 Jungle Boy Jack
1:25:56
Perry? 2020 Pat McAfee? Twenty
1:26:00
Twenty One Jade Cargill. And.
1:26:02
Twenty Twenty two. Brown Breaker. That.
1:26:05
A lot about rookie The or To me, Jade, it's almost
1:26:07
like she's a rookie again. You know. But.
1:26:10
It's the same point. at least you
1:26:12
know everybody there except for. The.
1:26:16
Odd duck in the middle who was
1:26:18
that middle one didn't fit scapegoat, Just
1:26:20
Perry. Georgia Perry that didn't work out
1:26:23
well. Ah, but. You
1:26:25
don't' you? Should. Go from
1:26:27
at least the potential of all those
1:26:29
other names, weather and. Car.
1:26:32
Your case has been realized are not.
1:26:35
To. Put. A
1:26:37
foot. There's nobody there. Who.
1:26:39
A bad year for grown crops.
1:26:41
Speaking of, there's nobody there. Best
1:26:44
known wrestler Now this used to be
1:26:46
manager of the year. He
1:26:48
account those coronets down air at
1:26:51
Schwab Am. I'm lobbying to have
1:26:53
this the Gym Coronet Award for
1:26:55
best non wrestling personality because I
1:26:58
have one. That. Award more
1:27:00
times than anybody else is what any
1:27:02
of these a war will genders recognizes
1:27:04
mans her the year which existed from
1:27:06
Nineteen Eighty Three, The Ninety Ninety Six
1:27:08
you wanted. One. Two
1:27:10
three four, five, six,
1:27:12
Seven. Sorry. Martell
1:27:14
Eight nine, ten, eleven,
1:27:17
twelve times. The. Only
1:27:19
people who wanted another been on t go
1:27:21
one further ahead, did not pick up another
1:27:23
one will then we became best known wrestler
1:27:26
you want again in two thousand and six
1:27:28
Yeah best man Rustler and they took some
1:27:30
years off and by the way Sherry One
1:27:32
and bless her but that's the year that
1:27:35
I was though took off while I was
1:27:37
started smoking amount wrestling so I was not
1:27:39
in the running while the winter this year
1:27:41
with two hundred and sixty six votes. Don.
1:27:44
Talus. Followed
1:27:47
by Paul Heyman. Okay,
1:27:50
All right, And
1:27:53
without even being in any
1:27:55
way. Over. vivid
1:27:57
less than complementary
1:28:00
to my old buddy Don. There's
1:28:03
no way on
1:28:05
earth where anybody can objectively
1:28:08
look at that
1:28:10
and say that Paul Heyman
1:28:12
is being outperformed in his
1:28:14
chosen profession by Don Callis
1:28:16
or almost anybody else. It's
1:28:19
just not possible to objectively say
1:28:22
that. Well,
1:28:24
let's go through the rest of the list. Paul
1:28:26
Heyman number two, number three, Prince Nana, number
1:28:28
four Rene Paquette,
1:28:31
number five. Hold on a second.
1:28:34
Now we've got where I used
1:28:37
to have some stiff competition that I had to elbow
1:28:39
out of the way on his son of a bitch.
1:28:43
We are talking and think of all the great
1:28:46
managers that I had to contend with the
1:28:48
JJ Dylans and the Gary Harts and the
1:28:51
Oliver Humberdinks of the world and
1:28:54
the Jimmy Harts, much
1:28:56
less the Gary Harts.
1:28:58
Nana, love him to death but
1:29:01
he never speaks, he dances and Rene
1:29:04
Moxley Goode is
1:29:06
a fucking interviewer. Not
1:29:10
even an interviewer that does anything different than
1:29:12
all the other interviewers. She
1:29:14
just has a bigger wardrobe. That's
1:29:17
the top four non-wrestling personalities
1:29:20
in. I
1:29:22
mean, maybe Marvez hadn't broken into his
1:29:24
secret closet at home. He might have
1:29:26
stuff that puts hers to shame
1:29:28
but... Well, number
1:29:31
five on the list, RJ City
1:29:33
tied with Nick Aldis followed by
1:29:35
Nigel McGinnis followed
1:29:37
by Samantha Irvin. So
1:29:41
what was manager of the year now has interviewers
1:29:44
and ring announcers. Okay, and
1:29:46
again, Nick Aldis has been remarkable and
1:29:48
is being used in a prominent position
1:29:50
that he's done well at in a
1:29:52
fucking major company on television. So is
1:29:54
Adam Pearce, he belongs on that list,
1:29:58
over one of their fucking ringing... announcers?
1:30:01
How much ad-libbing is the ring announcer allowed
1:30:03
to do? What are the
1:30:06
skill level
1:30:08
involved in being a fucking ring
1:30:10
announcer, for God's sake? If
1:30:13
you can speak in public and read the card
1:30:15
and have any kind of
1:30:17
personality... Well, speaking
1:30:22
of personality, best television announcer,
1:30:25
this is an esteemed award previously won by
1:30:27
people like Gordon Sully, Lance Russell, Jim Ross,
1:30:29
and Mike Tenet. Joey Stiles had
1:30:31
a little run there too. The
1:30:34
winner this year, once again, Excalibur!
1:30:36
183 votes, right behind him,
1:30:40
139 votes. Ian Riccobani, followed
1:30:42
by Kevin Kelly, Nigel McGinnis,
1:30:45
Chris Charlton, Michael Cole, Tony
1:30:47
Schiavone, Taz, Jim Ross,
1:30:49
and Jay Church. Jay
1:30:52
Church? I don't know who
1:30:54
Jay may be. Well, going back to
1:30:56
the top of that list, I
1:30:59
will admit that JR had
1:31:01
more energy in his youth.
1:31:04
Michael Cole, even though he's professional
1:31:06
and polished and on
1:31:08
the big program, he's not the
1:31:10
most wrestling fan-friendly announcer because of
1:31:13
his Vince and Kevin Dunn
1:31:15
training. But
1:31:17
what's the fuck again? It's the matter with
1:31:19
people that can't tell the difference between Ian
1:31:21
Riccobani, who's a guy
1:31:25
that's trying to do a professional fucking
1:31:27
job and inject some
1:31:29
personality into it from this basement,
1:31:32
pop-tart eating fucking
1:31:34
masked mark that
1:31:37
is just screaming endless Japanese
1:31:39
words and phrases to his
1:31:41
fucking VHS trading buddies from
1:31:43
25 years ago, even
1:31:45
though he's a middle-aged man who, after
1:31:48
I've seen a picture of him without that sock
1:31:50
on his face, I understand why he wears it.
1:31:52
He's an ugly, ugly man. He is
1:31:54
not a good-looking man. There's
1:31:58
a number of things wrong with his
1:32:00
face that surgery would need
1:32:02
to repair and implants and
1:32:05
sometimes something in parts of it some
1:32:07
stuff needs to be taken out as
1:32:10
well as other parts needs to be put in. But
1:32:13
what the fuck? Seriously? Well
1:32:15
the worst television announcer in first
1:32:18
place was Booker T followed by
1:32:20
Kevin Patrick the panting announcer followed
1:32:23
by Jim Ross, Michael Cole,
1:32:26
Corey Graves, Kevin Kelly,
1:32:28
Chris Jericho, Matt
1:32:30
Stryker, Vic Joseph and
1:32:34
Tony Schiavone. I don't
1:32:36
see why anybody would vote for Kevin Kelly
1:32:38
as the worst over some of the rogues
1:32:40
gallery of names that were just listed and
1:32:43
to vote. For
1:32:45
Jim Ross being the worst announcer when he's
1:32:47
72 years old and he's had fucking multiple
1:32:49
surgeries and health issues just don't put his
1:32:52
name down. Don't vote for him for anything
1:32:54
out of a little common respect. And there
1:32:56
are fans who voted for Schiavone as one
1:32:58
of the announcers of the year so this
1:33:01
certainly just a whack fanbase that doesn't understand
1:33:03
what professional wrestling commentary is supposed to do
1:33:05
and how effective it should be. But
1:33:08
Jim the best major wrestling show
1:33:10
in first place AEW
1:33:13
Revolution March 5th in
1:33:15
San Francisco 188 votes followed by Forbidden
1:33:19
Door in Toronto, AEW All
1:33:21
In in London, WrestleMania
1:33:24
Night One, AEW All Out
1:33:26
Chicago, Stardom All
1:33:28
Star Queendom, New Japan Pro
1:33:31
Wrestling Wrestle Kingdom, Ring of
1:33:33
Honor, Kiji Muto's Last Love,
1:33:36
what? AEW Wrestle... Wait a minute
1:33:38
Kiji Muto did a porn flick
1:33:40
and Ring of Honor? Well apparently the
1:33:43
event at the Tokyo Dome says
1:33:45
Ring of Honor. It was a Ring
1:33:47
of Honor show? It says ROH Kiji
1:33:49
Muto's Last Love. I think there's... Dave...
1:33:53
Dave skips his medicine every once in
1:33:55
a while because of his memory. The
1:33:57
thing is pressing on the prefrontal lobe.
1:34:00
Well, let's go to the worst major wrestling
1:34:02
show. Wait, that was just gibberish? I don't
1:34:04
remember what matches were on those fucking shows.
1:34:06
No. That's just
1:34:08
gibberish. I don't know what the fuck
1:34:11
that was. The worst major wrestling show,
1:34:13
WWE Crown Jewel, November 4th in Saudi
1:34:15
Arabia. Followed by NWA Samhain.
1:34:17
I think I was going for cocaine and
1:34:19
shit. Haha. You
1:34:22
know, the fact that nobody
1:34:24
saw that thing and it still made
1:34:26
such an impression indicates that it must
1:34:28
have been fucking rotten. Followed by AEW
1:34:30
World's End, December 30th in Uniondale. I
1:34:34
remember that stunk. That was the worst
1:34:36
AEW show maybe ever. Worst AEW pay-per-view.
1:34:38
Followed by WWE Fastlane, AAA TripleMania.
1:34:43
I was about to say eight and a half. It was on August 12th
1:34:45
here. NWA
1:34:48
75th Anniversary Show, WWE
1:34:51
WrestleMania Night 2, SummerSlam,
1:34:54
WWE Payback, and NWA Nuff Said.
1:34:59
NWA not really winning over fans it seems
1:35:01
like. The best wrestling
1:35:03
maneuver, Jim. The
1:35:05
Will Osprey Hidden Blade. Is
1:35:09
that that shitty looking fucking knee where the people
1:35:11
are on their knees to begin with and he
1:35:13
hits them from behind and they got no bump
1:35:15
to take? I'm not actually
1:35:17
sure but we'll find out shortly. God, that's
1:35:19
fucking right. Is on TV in second place
1:35:22
is Will Osprey with The Stormbreaker.
1:35:26
Followed by The One-Wing Angel by
1:35:28
Kenny Omega. Of course it is.
1:35:30
The El Hijo Del Vikingo's Second
1:35:32
Rope Step-Up 630. What
1:35:35
the f- Followed by The Commander
1:35:37
Rope Walk Shooting Star. Followed
1:35:40
by The Adam Page Buckshot Lariat. Neon's
1:35:43
Ramp Run Double Springboard
1:35:45
Fosberry. What the fuck?
1:35:49
Ilya Dragunov's H-bomb. H-bomb.
1:35:53
Leon Flader's 450 Swanton. And
1:35:58
Okada's Rainmaker. You
1:36:01
know what the best move in wrestling
1:36:03
is? The RKO. Because it's
1:36:05
the only one that nobody kicks out of.
1:36:09
Well, no one keeps out of the one-way danger. I
1:36:11
don't know if we can compare the RKO to the
1:36:13
one-way danger. But okay, the only one that nobody kicks
1:36:15
out of and a man's actually delivering it. Let's
1:36:19
now go to one of the most
1:36:21
interesting ones every year, most disgusting promotional
1:36:23
tactic. I'm going to
1:36:25
go to number one, but then when I do the top
1:36:27
10, see if one of them stands out to
1:36:29
you as being, okay, that doesn't really seem disgusting
1:36:32
in any way. Number
1:36:34
one, WWE enabling Vince
1:36:36
McMahon and him being back in
1:36:38
power slash TKO keeping him
1:36:41
in a position of power with
1:36:43
197 votes. Any
1:36:46
problem with that being number one? I think that's probably the
1:36:48
big one. That's been the big one. I think that would
1:36:50
have had to have won. Number two,
1:36:52
the WWE's continued relationship with
1:36:54
Saudi Arabia. Number
1:36:57
three, the NWA cocaine spot
1:36:59
on pay-per-view. Number
1:37:01
four, I can't even say this anymore. We're not thinking
1:37:03
of you saying it. Power slap.
1:37:06
I mean, continuing on TV
1:37:08
after Dana White slapped his
1:37:10
wife. Come here, honey. Power
1:37:14
slap. Number five, AEW signing
1:37:16
Ric Flair. Number
1:37:19
six, AEW Juice Robinson uses roll
1:37:21
of quarters after the Hamas terrorist
1:37:24
attack and doing an
1:37:26
anti-Semitic angle. Number
1:37:28
seven, TKO ignoring Vince
1:37:30
McMahon and Dana White's transgressions.
1:37:34
Number eight, Colby Colvington
1:37:36
using the death of Leon Edwards's
1:37:39
father to promote a fight. Number
1:37:43
nine, WWE hiring CM Punk.
1:37:46
And number 10, Shawn Strickland
1:37:49
openly homophobic comments with no repercussions
1:37:51
from UFC or TKO.
1:37:54
Honorable mention for Adam Page drinking
1:37:56
Swerve Strickland's blood. on
1:38:01
that list of sexual
1:38:03
perversion and blood
1:38:05
drinking and violence and desecration
1:38:07
of corpses is and
1:38:11
they gave punk a job
1:38:13
hiring cm punk is the
1:38:15
most disgusting promotional package voted
1:38:17
for that that's what's crazy
1:38:19
ah
1:38:22
again does he
1:38:26
have the list of winners in years
1:38:28
past oh yeah this is a
1:38:30
big this award well now but think about this
1:38:32
we just had a list of again perversion
1:38:35
and harassment and you
1:38:38
know double dealing and just
1:38:41
a horrible activity all the
1:38:43
way around from people right what
1:38:45
was 19 was it 1981 read 1981's winner for most disgusting
1:38:50
promotional tactic I'll do the first couple
1:38:53
here 1981 LaBelle promotions
1:38:55
usage of the monster claiming
1:38:58
he was built in a laboratory yes
1:39:00
the fans called that the most disgusting
1:39:03
thing that had happened in a wrestling
1:39:05
promotion all year because they actually said
1:39:07
on TV that it wasn't a guy
1:39:10
in a fucking monster costume that
1:39:12
it really was a fucking monster
1:39:15
built in a laboratory they were about
1:39:17
to go out of business obviously but
1:39:20
that was the worst thing that any promotion
1:39:22
came up with to do that year that
1:39:24
people could vote on my
1:39:26
favorite is 1982 the most disgusting promotional
1:39:28
tack again this year is Vince McMahon's
1:39:30
involvement with the power of WWE and
1:39:32
TKO 1982 Bob backland
1:39:35
is WWF champion yeah
1:39:39
that was the most disgusting thing in
1:39:41
wrestling that whole year the smart
1:39:43
fans hated Bob backland
1:39:46
this smart fans despised
1:39:48
Bob back 1983 WWF
1:39:51
pretending Eddie Gilbert had re-broken his neck after
1:39:54
original legit injury in an auto accident today
1:39:56
is an interesting one they try to use
1:39:58
something legit in an angle And
1:40:01
the small amount of fans then in the know
1:40:04
were offended that they would use the real thing in
1:40:06
an angle? How does that work? Yes,
1:40:08
because, well, here's
1:40:11
nothing to be honest. Eddie was one of the
1:40:13
first guys to get in
1:40:15
the business to recognize the underground
1:40:17
network of the newsletters and the
1:40:20
sheets and the traders and the
1:40:23
not only the tape traders but the program
1:40:25
traders, all that. They could support him and
1:40:28
he was getting publicity out. Remember he cooperated
1:40:31
forever and ever with Terry Justice on the
1:40:33
fan club and all that stuff. And so
1:40:36
a lot of that community
1:40:40
considered Eddie a friend. They'd known him since he
1:40:42
was teenager before he started wrestling when he's going
1:40:45
to the fan club conventions and stuff and doing
1:40:47
a photography. So they were
1:40:49
pissed off that
1:40:51
how dare they try to... He broke his neck
1:40:53
for real in that car wreck and it could
1:40:55
have ended his career and now they're making
1:40:59
light of it I guess. That was a weird
1:41:02
thing with the fans then were
1:41:04
so protective. The smart
1:41:06
fans were
1:41:09
more protective of the integrity of the
1:41:11
business than the goddamn promoters
1:41:13
are now or were then for that
1:41:15
matter. Well Jim, let's go
1:41:17
now to worst television show in
1:41:20
first place with 194 votes, NWA Power followed by
1:41:22
WWE Raw, NXT, Power Slap,
1:41:28
Road to the Title,
1:41:31
AEW Rampage, WWE
1:41:33
Smackdown, AEW Dynamite and Ring of
1:41:35
Honor. This is worst television show.
1:41:37
Well almost every show is on that list
1:41:41
and almost every show at one point
1:41:44
or another is rotten so you can't
1:41:46
really argue at this point but you
1:41:48
know. wrestler,
1:42:00
worst manager, aka
1:42:03
the Mr. Fuji Award. It
1:42:06
was Mr. Fuji every year except it was
1:42:08
Paul Jones and then eventually Sonny Ono took
1:42:10
over the award. Worst match of
1:42:12
the year, Bray Wyatt
1:42:14
versus L.A. Knight at the Royal Rumble. Well,
1:42:18
I mean I don't argue with the concept
1:42:21
because it did stink but there was obviously,
1:42:23
and I know
1:42:25
this audience sees everything, there was two
1:42:27
guys in a fucking converted goddamn paint
1:42:29
and body shop in front of 72
1:42:32
people that I'm sure had a worse match than that
1:42:34
but it didn't get any votes.
1:42:36
Although some of these other people get votes doing
1:42:38
the same thing but I
1:42:40
can agree
1:42:43
with worst major show match of the
1:42:45
year. Real quick,
1:42:47
anything else stands out, Tyrus versus
1:42:49
EC3, Shane McMahon and Snoop Dogg
1:42:51
versus The Miz, Baron
1:42:56
Corbin versus Gable Steeveson,
1:43:00
or Gabe Sapolsky. I
1:43:02
thought it was gonna be some kind of
1:43:04
goddamn showdown there. It'll be sold out at
1:43:06
the curtain, that one. Ronda Rousey
1:43:08
versus Shayna Baszler, Roman Reigns versus
1:43:10
J. Uso, Adam Cole versus Chris
1:43:12
Jericho, Jeff Jarrett versus Jeff Hardy,
1:43:15
Julia Hart versus Abaddon and Adam
1:43:17
Cole versus MJF. Worst
1:43:20
feud of the year, MJF
1:43:23
versus the devil. 167 votes and
1:43:25
there were a lot of bad
1:43:29
ones but I guess maybe because of the amount of
1:43:31
time and the amount of the
1:43:34
amount of time they gave that thing. The
1:43:36
time per show, the length of time that
1:43:39
it stretched on and on, the people that
1:43:41
were involved in it, the amount
1:43:44
of letdown that happened
1:43:46
with the whole thing, all of that
1:43:48
even the AEW faithful couldn't fucking disguise
1:43:50
that. The rest of the top
1:43:53
10 for worst feud of the year, the
1:43:55
outcast versus AEW Originals, Tyrus
1:43:57
versus EC3. Oh good lord. Wanda
1:44:00
Rousey vs. Shayna Baszler Can't
1:44:03
argue with that Adam Cole vs. Chris
1:44:05
Jericho Ooo Keith Lee
1:44:07
vs. Swerve Strickland Ha! Did they ever have
1:44:10
a match or did they just talk nasty
1:44:12
to each other once every few months? Is
1:44:14
it worst feud because it never became a
1:44:16
feud? Is
1:44:18
that something that should make it worse feud? Because
1:44:20
it should have been a feud and it just
1:44:22
never was a feud. That should fucking land in
1:44:24
the best and worst Booker category. Number
1:44:27
7, Evil vs. Sonata Tied
1:44:29
with Bully Ray vs. Scott DeMoor
1:44:32
Here's one we missed Number 9,
1:44:35
Seth Rollins vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
1:44:38
And number 10, another guy that real quick had turned into
1:44:40
whatever to him. Where is he again? Miro
1:44:42
vs. CJ Perry Versus
1:44:46
his wife Yeah and
1:44:48
they're gone again! She's
1:44:52
hot, flexible and missing! Ah,
1:44:56
worst promotion of the year. A
1:44:58
runaway this year with 456 votes to NWA! Good
1:45:02
lord! What have they done? Billy
1:45:05
Corgan better hire some private security with
1:45:07
this amount of heat. Second
1:45:09
place triple A followed by WWE. Control
1:45:12
your narrative! MLW,
1:45:16
GCW, ROH,
1:45:18
Pro Wrestling Noah and finally AEW. So
1:45:23
even this audience obviously
1:45:25
has to vote for everybody else
1:45:28
before AEW in worst
1:45:31
promotion. Best Booker Now
1:45:33
this is another award that you previously won
1:45:35
a couple times. Yeah,
1:45:38
but you know. Actually three times now that
1:45:40
I see it. Yeah, but we know who
1:45:42
was really accounting on this, who lives
1:45:45
and breathes this type of thing. In
1:45:49
first place with 360 votes, Paul Leveque Followed
1:45:55
in second place with 146 votes
1:45:57
by the man who won the previous three
1:46:00
years, Tony Khan, followed
1:46:08
by Juan Manuel Marr, Shuji
1:46:14
Ishikawa, Rossi
1:46:17
Ogawa, Ghetto, Shawn
1:46:20
Michaels, Andy
1:46:22
Quinlan, or Quilden,
1:46:26
whoever he may be, and Scott
1:46:29
DeMoor with 16 votes,
1:46:31
that big TNA voting
1:46:34
block, 16 votes for Scott DeMoor for
1:46:36
Best Booker. You know, isn't
1:46:38
it a shame there aren't but
1:46:40
two bookers of any
1:46:42
consequence anymore and one
1:46:45
of them is Tony Khan? Again,
1:46:47
it always comes back to you get mad at
1:46:49
the opportunity there was with AW. They should be
1:46:51
further along now than they are. They've held
1:46:53
themselves back. They had nothing but
1:46:55
advantages from the moment they started, the excitement,
1:46:59
the budget, the network,
1:47:03
and this is the beginning of the squander but let's go to
1:47:05
the next one. This is interesting too. Let's
1:47:08
just again, Tony, this means
1:47:10
the world to him. Is there
1:47:13
gonna be some way, shape, or form that he's
1:47:15
gonna be able to spin this? Is great? Yeah,
1:47:19
things are great and now we've made some
1:47:21
big changes. We hired Jennifer Pepper Duke and
1:47:23
we hired Rocky Romero and 2T. Alexandra
1:47:26
Pepperday. I forget what her
1:47:28
name was. Wasn't Jennifer? Alexandra
1:47:31
Pepperday. I can't even tell if
1:47:33
you're really saying her name or if you just made
1:47:35
up a name. That's the name that I'm saying. Alright,
1:47:38
well Miss Pepperday and everyone else is there so maybe
1:47:40
things will change next year. Promoter
1:47:42
of the Year. In
1:47:45
first place with 371 votes, Nick Khan. Oh!
1:47:50
Followed by Tony Khan. A
1:47:52
one-two punch to the gut. Poor
1:47:54
Tony. He's gonna
1:47:57
call Cadbury and turn over his
1:47:59
silver tray. and stomp
1:48:01
on some of his action figures who are probably
1:48:03
gonna have contusions. He lost to a different con.
1:48:05
How bad do you think that hurts? But
1:48:10
you know what? Some things don't
1:48:12
change in a hundred years. The two most
1:48:14
powerful people in a wrestling business are cons.
1:48:18
And they were a hundred years ago. They're promoters of all
1:48:20
con artists. Jim, best
1:48:23
gimmick, there's only a couple more here. Tony
1:48:26
Storm with 239 votes
1:48:29
followed by Christian Cage, Orange
1:48:32
Cassidy, Bloodline,
1:48:34
Brooch Chachos. Brooch
1:48:38
Chachos? Was that just him and Adam Cole? Was that
1:48:40
MJF and Adam Cole? That was MJF and Adam Cole.
1:48:42
But that wasn't their name as a team, was
1:48:45
it? They didn't actually
1:48:47
ever... No, they had two tag team
1:48:49
matches, didn't they? I don't think it was. But it
1:48:51
was better than you, Bay Bay. We're not the Brooch
1:48:53
Chachos. Well, then
1:48:55
maybe that's another outlaw team from somewhere
1:48:57
in the hinterlands that we haven't heard
1:49:00
of like most of these fucking people.
1:49:02
LA Knight, Dominic Mysterio, Swerve Strickland tied
1:49:04
with Cody Rhodes, and Katsuohiku
1:49:07
Nakajima, round out best gimmick.
1:49:09
Worst gimmick? The Devil. Followed
1:49:13
by QTV, Tony
1:49:15
Storm, the House
1:49:17
of Torture, the Outcasts,
1:49:20
Abaddon, Roderick Strong,
1:49:23
Seth Rollins, the
1:49:26
Schism, and
1:49:28
MJF. Well,
1:49:30
I think it's ridiculous that MJF
1:49:33
is a babyface, maybe because of what
1:49:35
could be versus what was. I can
1:49:37
see that'd be the worst gimmick he
1:49:39
could possibly be doing. But I was
1:49:42
all at Seth Franklin Rollins because AEW
1:49:44
almost had a clean sweep there, didn't they? It's
1:49:47
the place where bad gimmicks go to
1:49:51
Fester. Jim, the
1:49:53
winner of Best Pro Wrestling Book, a book we
1:49:55
talked about and promoted here on the show and
1:49:57
interviewed the author, our friend Tim Hornbreaker, the last-
1:50:00
Last real world champion by Tim Hornbaker, book of
1:50:02
the year. Well, uh,
1:50:04
hold on here one second. We got
1:50:06
to go again with the, I can't
1:50:08
find it. Where'd the goddamn hands go?
1:50:14
Congratulations, Tim. All
1:50:19
right. Was there
1:50:21
another book worth reading this past? Yeah.
1:50:25
Number two on the list was Todd is God by
1:50:27
Todd Gordon. Followed by
1:50:30
ring master by Abraham Josephine Reisman,
1:50:33
followed by the current Chronicles by Steve Kern and Ian Douglas.
1:50:35
I've heard good things about that, but I haven't had a
1:50:37
chance to read it yet. Followed
1:50:39
by the wrestling observer, complete collection, 1989, followed
1:50:43
by kayfabe, a mostly
1:50:45
true history of pro wrestling by
1:50:48
Patrick Reed, followed by,
1:50:50
that was a big budget book. Followed
1:50:52
by there's just one problem by Brian
1:50:54
Gewertz. And
1:50:57
finally populism and professional wrestling in
1:50:59
the Sunbelt South. Like
1:51:01
Christopher Stacy. I don't know that book either. I
1:51:03
don't know what the fuck that was, but, uh,
1:51:06
I haven't read Gewertz's book because I'm afraid I'll
1:51:08
hate him more than I already do just on
1:51:11
the concept of him, because I don't think we've
1:51:13
ever met. I'm just, you will. I
1:51:16
w I will hate him even worse. Yeah. He's
1:51:18
a little Weasley fucking character. You won't like him.
1:51:21
And finally, Jim, best pro
1:51:23
wrestling documentary. The winner
1:51:25
is dark side of the rings episode on Chris and
1:51:27
Tammy. Oh, well, good.
1:51:30
I'm glad to see that people thought
1:51:32
the well of that episode. And
1:51:35
those were the majority of the wrestling observer awards.
1:51:37
We went longer than we thought we would, but
1:51:40
who could take a while. Didn't
1:51:42
it? It did. Yes. I thought we started
1:51:44
to, oh boy. Promo
1:51:46
code JCE. He'll
1:51:49
give you everything in the shop. Well,
1:51:52
Brian, I guess we ought to get to the
1:51:54
topic that everybody's talking about what's going on in
1:51:56
the WWE and the big elimination chamber, but before
1:51:58
we do that, what the wide
1:52:00
world of sports is happening at the
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Mothership! Eh, I'd like
1:53:51
to take a lot out of you. Well, but
1:53:53
before we Talk about
1:53:55
the elimination chamber, we've got to make mention
1:53:57
of SmackDown. I had asked you earlier in
1:53:59
the. We got own of is on the air not
1:54:01
when I asked you but. What? About
1:54:03
how can they do Smackdown on Friday
1:54:05
and anybody be in Australia? You.
1:54:08
Know three hours later. Whatever.
1:54:11
And. Know: apparently they take this program. I
1:54:13
don't know where they taped it or when
1:54:15
did they tape it? With.
1:54:18
Their last smackdown a week ago. if they
1:54:20
kept us and or rather what much to
1:54:22
write home about on the show, the summer,
1:54:24
scandalous stuff happening and wrestling other there are
1:54:27
no spoilers. Somehow. They to Tv
1:54:29
tapings. No one said anything he i
1:54:31
just have a house though. it's that
1:54:33
any that. You. Couldn't really tell
1:54:35
by what they are. They didn't say where
1:54:37
they were as I think they were. I
1:54:39
think they take this after the last week
1:54:42
smackdown. But. Nothing really happened
1:54:44
of Node, so nobody talked about it,
1:54:46
but. There. Are a couple
1:54:48
things I want to make mention of:
1:54:50
Aadmi: We gotta live with an Air
1:54:52
Against Trip Periphery: A Live Against Tiffany.
1:54:56
And. Know. There. Was a
1:54:58
video of a shanty Adonis. It is Partner:
1:55:00
What's what's his name? I can't members partners
1:55:02
name. Trick. Know
1:55:05
that's movies partners with Carmelo but
1:55:07
they're on the outs. Know.
1:55:10
Car minute. Wait, A
1:55:13
shot day any other guy were in
1:55:15
with with flop. Dollar weren't they know
1:55:17
flopped? All was the other guy. Well.
1:55:22
Then, all right, book one of these, but
1:55:24
with a head on a flop dollar be
1:55:26
fab and swerve. Already.
1:55:28
Swerved say summer I am and he's
1:55:30
yeah if you were the words. what
1:55:32
he drives will Our shanties got a
1:55:34
new partner and they had a video
1:55:36
of them trying on clothing. Is.
1:55:39
Excellent. I know he's the new partner.
1:55:41
I don't know. Are. They going
1:55:44
to feud with the other fashionable males and the
1:55:46
company. I don't know.
1:55:49
But. Anyway, the had that and they had
1:55:51
some pre taped stuff with the back with
1:55:53
Jimmy and Roman and. You. Know
1:55:56
Paulie is it is telling Grace
1:55:58
Waller do something drum. foreshadowing
1:56:00
for the pay-per-view. But
1:56:03
did you see the Braunbreaker match? That
1:56:07
was the only thing on the entire episode I
1:56:09
actually really liked. That's one
1:56:11
of the only things on the episode I want to talk
1:56:13
about. He's
1:56:16
the new Brock Lester with none of the problems.
1:56:20
He's 20 years younger and they don't
1:56:22
have to worry about the lawsuits or
1:56:24
whatever's going to be coming out in
1:56:26
whatever fucking... Piscate. He's
1:56:33
got the same qualities. He obviously
1:56:35
is not
1:56:38
going to bother to or take the time to
1:56:40
or go through and compete
1:56:43
and win the UFC title. But he's got
1:56:45
the same kind of aggression
1:56:48
and intensity that Brock has
1:56:50
and the power and the
1:56:52
speed that Brock had 20 years ago. And
1:56:56
he's a more natural worker. I had
1:56:58
Brock at this stage that Braunbreakers had
1:57:00
or shortly before it. And
1:57:03
Braun's been leaps and
1:57:05
bounds ahead of what Brock was as
1:57:08
far as a pro wrestling performer since
1:57:10
we first saw him. But
1:57:12
he's got every tool. And they say, and I believe
1:57:14
it, he runs the ropes at 23
1:57:16
miles an hour. And
1:57:19
he's got 20 feet. He ain't got
1:57:22
20 feet because the ring is
1:57:24
20 feet from edge of apron to edge of
1:57:27
apron. So inside the
1:57:29
ropes, he's got 18 feet to get 23 miles an hour.
1:57:33
The fuck. But
1:57:36
anyway, he hit
1:57:38
the Dante Chin, whoever, nobody makes
1:57:40
no difference. It was a squash
1:57:42
match and it was flawless and
1:57:44
it's to build up a
1:57:47
star and back
1:57:49
the Brinks truck up to
1:57:51
Braunbreakers house because he'll be the
1:57:55
WWE universal or world or
1:57:57
whatever champion barring injury. I
1:58:01
don't think it might not take him three years.
1:58:07
Should he be the one to dethrone? I
1:58:09
was about to say Walter. Should he be the
1:58:11
one to dethrone Gunther? You
1:58:14
know, that might not be a bad
1:58:17
idea. And
1:58:19
it shouldn't happen real anytime real
1:58:21
quick. Just let Gunther keep
1:58:23
doing what Gunther's doing and give Braun Brekker
1:58:26
now six months
1:58:28
or however many months, maybe a year
1:58:30
on the main roster, maybe by next
1:58:32
year's WrestleMania. That
1:58:34
would be very interesting. There's no reason to hurry
1:58:37
anything here, but just have him keep doing what
1:58:39
he's fucking doing and talking like he talks. And
1:58:43
of course the Wrestling Observer newsletter
1:58:45
readers would rather see Will Ostrich,
1:58:47
but Braun Brekker is a multi,
1:58:51
multi-million dollar fucking talent and
1:58:54
is going to be again,
1:58:56
barring injury for however many
1:58:58
years he wants to be, probably until he makes so much
1:59:01
money, he just says, fuck it and quits. I
1:59:04
don't know how else to explain it. But
1:59:07
otherwise, an ad on this program, oh, I've got
1:59:10
to mention in
1:59:12
the back, they had the Mexican heel group
1:59:14
jump and beat up the Mexican babyface group
1:59:17
and hold them down while Escobar talked mean
1:59:19
to them. And the
1:59:21
referees were running, the cameraman's right in their face
1:59:23
while Felonious assault is going on and the referees
1:59:25
are waving their hands in the air. Oh, don't
1:59:27
do that. But then
1:59:29
we got to the tag
1:59:32
team match with JD
1:59:35
Funco and Dominick Mysterio against Tyler
1:59:37
Bate and Pete Dunn and more
1:59:39
on Bate and Pete when
1:59:42
we talk about the elimination chamber. But
1:59:45
this is one of the times again, Stacey and Harley
1:59:48
had come and sit down from going out to take
1:59:50
a pee. Harley, not
1:59:52
Stacey. And
1:59:54
they sit down while I'm writing things, making these
1:59:56
notes. And
1:59:58
I said, look at the state of tag team. wrestling. I said
2:00:02
those two guys are going for the tag team
2:00:04
title on the pay-per-view this weekend. She said Dominic
2:00:07
and the other guy said no the other
2:00:09
two guys and
2:00:11
I wrote down her comments when she
2:00:13
looked at Tyler Bate and Pete Dunn.
2:00:17
What the fuck is this?
2:00:19
Are they kidding? These aren't
2:00:21
just job guys they're signed?
2:00:23
That one guy looks like a midget with
2:00:25
Dennis Condrey's head. It looks
2:00:29
like he just rolled out a bid. The
2:00:32
one guy looks like he's wearing underoos.
2:00:37
They're the babyface challengers to the
2:00:39
tag team title and I'll
2:00:41
get more into their unseemly
2:00:44
look and ridiculous level of
2:00:46
push on the
2:00:48
pay-per-view but what the fuck has
2:00:51
gone on? We've gone from
2:00:53
the Heart Foundation and the Rockers
2:00:55
and the fucking British Bulldogs or
2:00:57
the Rock and Roll Express and
2:01:00
the Midnight Express and Tully and
2:01:02
Arn and Demolition and the
2:01:04
Steiner Brothers and the Road
2:01:06
Warriors to fucking Tyler Bate
2:01:08
and Pete Butch Dunn. Don't
2:01:15
forget Doom. And Doom. The team
2:01:17
of Doom. The team of Doom.
2:01:19
And the Legion
2:01:23
of Doom. They
2:01:25
were even bigger than a team they were
2:01:27
Legion. What about Ollie and Jean?
2:01:30
Well I mean we could talk Bockwinkle and
2:01:32
Stevens. I was making a point but I'm
2:01:35
done now. I
2:01:37
just want to yell tag team names. It would be more
2:01:39
fun. Yes. Street Profits
2:01:41
and the AOP. That
2:01:44
was the next match. Yeah. And
2:01:47
then Damage Control jumped Dakota Kai
2:01:50
in the locker
2:01:52
room and hurt her ankle and Bailey was
2:01:54
upset about it. And
2:01:56
then LA Knight had a match with Drew
2:01:58
McIntyre. That was the main event with
2:02:00
Logan Paul on color. And
2:02:04
there wasn't anything wrong with it. Two
2:02:06
pros here, they kept it moving. The
2:02:08
shit looked good. They
2:02:10
had a nice TV match.
2:02:13
And finally as LA Knight
2:02:15
made his big comeback and they went
2:02:18
back and forth, they go to the
2:02:20
floor in front of the desk and
2:02:22
Drew runs LA Knight into fucking Kevin
2:02:26
Owens, who's come out also by the way
2:02:28
to do sit at the desk and
2:02:31
Owens then got on Drew and just the
2:02:33
referee rang the bell DQ boom. So they
2:02:35
had a big four way and then Lashley
2:02:38
came in and then
2:02:40
everybody had a fight and Drew was the
2:02:42
last man standing and they were playing the
2:02:44
music and then Orton came in out of
2:02:46
nowhere with the RKO.
2:02:49
So they just had a match until it was time to
2:02:51
not have a match. And then they rang the bell and
2:02:53
then everybody hit a big move on everybody. That
2:02:58
was the name of that tune. Well,
2:03:01
an exciting episode of Smackdown, a
2:03:04
taped episode. I
2:03:06
want to say I saw the fast nationals and I'm
2:03:08
trying to find them. I can't
2:03:10
find them, but it was another episode
2:03:12
that a taped episode. Um, it was
2:03:15
held together with scotch tape, but people
2:03:17
are watching it because they're interested in
2:03:19
something there. Well,
2:03:23
that was Smackdown. That was the
2:03:25
quickest we've ever gotten through Smackdown.
2:03:27
Nine minutes to get through Smackdown
2:03:29
there. There you go. But don't
2:03:31
worry. We're about to slow down
2:03:33
the elimination
2:03:36
chamber on this was
2:03:38
February 24th. Uh,
2:03:41
here in this country, what date was it
2:03:43
over there down under in Australia? Was it
2:03:45
the 23rd, the 25th? What
2:03:48
day was it over there? I'm
2:03:52
not certain. We, we have
2:03:54
established it's a scientific fact
2:03:57
that time moves more slowly
2:03:59
in Australia. you because
2:04:02
this was the slowest moving
2:04:04
fucking show I have ever
2:04:06
seen in my life. And
2:04:12
you know again, what a stadium. What
2:04:15
a set they had and the whole truss
2:04:17
over the ring. They
2:04:20
have an incredible open network quality
2:04:22
television production. It's a big league
2:04:24
show. You can tell the new
2:04:27
guy has brought in more
2:04:30
network sports type fucking presentation
2:04:32
to the production
2:04:34
of it. The production
2:04:36
has looked incredible since Kevin the
2:04:42
Left. It's been great. It
2:04:48
makes the show so much more bearable. It's been really good.
2:04:51
And the new camera angles that they've got on the
2:04:53
ring and part of this may have been the way
2:04:56
that they had to shoot the stadium because it's so
2:04:58
big. It
2:05:01
looks great. Not
2:05:04
much happens. It's a
2:05:06
big league fucking production though. But
2:05:10
they opened this thing up and obviously I
2:05:14
don't know what the live viewership was
2:05:16
except for in Australia
2:05:19
because it was five o'clock in the
2:05:21
morning Eastern time in the United States
2:05:24
but it's on peacocks so people will
2:05:26
catch it eventually. But goddamn,
2:05:29
pack a lunch and prepare. Devote
2:05:32
the whole day. We had
2:05:34
a lot of listeners in the Cult of Cornet groups. We
2:05:36
had a thread for people who were going to watch it
2:05:38
to make comments. And people hung themselves
2:05:41
with it. There were a lot of people up. There
2:05:43
were a lot of people apparently drinking. Still
2:05:46
up and drinking from the night before. Their
2:05:48
plan was to make it through the pay-per-view
2:05:50
and they were hit with this. Boy,
2:05:53
how do you know? You're making it sound
2:05:55
a lot worse than it was. Well no,
2:05:58
if somebody was well rested and in
2:06:00
good health and not under the influence of
2:06:02
any substances or chemicals and was
2:06:04
trying to stay awake through this thing. If
2:06:08
you were watching it live and
2:06:10
you couldn't fast forward, that would be a...
2:06:14
All right. Well, let's go through it. Um,
2:06:17
the first match was the women's
2:06:20
elimination chamber match. And
2:06:24
that featured Bianca versus
2:06:26
Raquel versus Tiffany versus
2:06:29
live versus Naomi versus
2:06:31
Becky. And
2:06:34
Brian, let me ask you a question
2:06:36
before we talk about this. Sorry, pop
2:06:38
stars. Yeah. Well,
2:06:41
you know, sometimes they have classic
2:06:43
movies that are
2:06:45
just great movies, four star movies, and
2:06:47
they're well thought of and they stand
2:06:49
the test of time. Right.
2:06:52
And people watch them generation after
2:06:54
generation. And
2:06:56
sometimes they
2:06:58
even remake those movies for a
2:07:00
more modern audience. You've seen remakes
2:07:02
before classic movies. It's a hit
2:07:04
or miss, but mostly miss. Well,
2:07:08
would you watch a rotten remake of
2:07:10
a classic movie before you watched
2:07:12
the original for the first time
2:07:14
or would that, wouldn't that spoil the
2:07:17
original for you because you'd seen the
2:07:19
substandard version before you'd seen the real
2:07:21
deal? Well,
2:07:23
let me just say this to avoid not
2:07:26
enjoying the men's
2:07:29
elimination chamber match with six of
2:07:31
the biggest individual stars in the
2:07:33
company battling for a chance to
2:07:36
face one of the world champions on one
2:07:38
of the main events of one of the
2:07:41
nights of WrestleMania, I didn't
2:07:44
want to watch the goddamn
2:07:46
women do it first two
2:07:48
hours beforehand because
2:07:50
anything that live Morgan is in
2:07:52
and emerges unharmed from cannot be
2:07:55
dangerous in any way. When
2:07:57
did she become the one you hate the most? This all
2:07:59
of a sudden. emerge that you just
2:08:01
have a problem because it's
2:08:03
the most preposterous it's the
2:08:05
most preposterous that this little
2:08:07
tiny minute microscopic girly little
2:08:09
girl is
2:08:12
doing all these fucking ridiculously
2:08:14
dangerous supposedly dangerous and deadly
2:08:16
and body breaking things and
2:08:18
just walking right away from
2:08:21
it it exposes a whole
2:08:23
goddamn deal for everybody farmer
2:08:26
burns was skinny a
2:08:29
farmer burns was skinny but his
2:08:31
weight was distributed a little differently
2:08:34
than Liv Morgan's so you didn't
2:08:36
watch the women's elimination no I can't no
2:08:38
it was better than the men's it was
2:08:40
better than the men's but it but no
2:08:43
it can't be because that just means that
2:08:45
they're doing obviously fake shit to each other
2:08:47
in a more accomplished manner
2:08:49
than the men well yeah I
2:08:52
don't want to see fucking girls
2:08:54
in cages and girls doing hardcore
2:08:56
garbage matches and girls whacking each other
2:08:59
with goddamn chairs and
2:09:01
blunt instruments because that just calls attention the
2:09:03
fact it's phony when the guys do it
2:09:05
the guys the ones drawing a fucking money
2:09:07
well girls
2:09:09
are one in the moon salts well
2:09:12
and they can keep those I
2:09:15
can buy that a young lady
2:09:17
of these particular people stature can
2:09:19
do gymnastics not fight
2:09:22
with goddamn martial arts weapons until
2:09:24
one's head should be caved in
2:09:27
is part of the problem though even if you
2:09:29
get past your issues in general with this match
2:09:31
being there and why you didn't watch it I
2:09:33
watched it and I enjoyed
2:09:35
it more than the men's match is
2:09:37
that a separate problem altogether the idea that
2:09:40
your audience would watch that match and enjoy
2:09:42
it more than the match that leads to
2:09:44
a main event match at WrestleMania yes yes
2:09:48
and that's why I don't enjoy it because
2:09:50
I don't look at it from an audience
2:09:53
standpoint I look at it from a professional
2:09:55
standpoint and from a promoter standpoint and
2:09:58
and from a guy's talent stand If
2:10:02
you have women,
2:10:04
I'm sorry, young
2:10:08
women of in most
2:10:10
cases very frail body
2:10:13
weight, Tiffany Stratton. Becky
2:10:16
Lynch can take, she's 140 pounds, Becky Lynch
2:10:21
is 120 pounds, she can talk but
2:10:24
you put them in cages
2:10:26
and elimination chambers and furniture
2:10:28
matches, it's ridiculous. If it
2:10:30
doesn't kill them, it's phony
2:10:32
and the guys
2:10:35
have made sure to let everybody know that it's
2:10:37
phony too, they do too much of it. As
2:10:39
we'll get to, we talk about AEW and
2:10:42
those idiots and their suicidal
2:10:44
tendencies. But
2:10:47
again, no, you've
2:10:49
got six of the top stars in the
2:10:51
company going for a shot at the world
2:10:53
title in the main event at WrestleMania so
2:10:55
you put their exact same gimmick match on
2:10:58
earlier with girls. Sorry.
2:11:01
And I will say that
2:11:03
one thing that it was proven, they
2:11:07
are making new fans because if you
2:11:09
gave a wrestling fan from
2:11:12
40 years ago or 30 years ago
2:11:14
or 20 years ago, maybe even 10
2:11:16
years ago, a 33-minute girls match when
2:11:18
there's only four matches on the card, the
2:11:20
fans would have burned the arena to the
2:11:22
ground. Would they not? Well,
2:11:24
that's where we are today. We've evolved
2:11:27
now. They could have the match and fans
2:11:29
will either enjoy it or sit there politely and
2:11:31
not move. Yeah, we're not walking,
2:11:33
we're not throw shit at the ring, we're
2:11:35
not set to seats on fire. They wouldn't
2:11:37
even blink it appears at times. And
2:11:42
basically this match, the bell rang to
2:11:44
start at 16 minutes into the
2:11:47
show and they were done at 49 minutes
2:11:49
into the show. I started keeping track
2:11:51
because the matches were
2:11:54
longer than that. They have a
2:11:56
roster of a hundred fucking people.
2:12:00
And they have an unlimited amount of money,
2:12:02
not because Tony and his rich father,
2:12:04
but because they're making billions and they're
2:12:06
worth billions. Fly
2:12:08
a few extra people to goddamn Australia.
2:12:10
They had four matches on the card.
2:12:13
They were all half an hour long or
2:12:15
close to or over. And then there'd be
2:12:17
stretches of 20 and 30 minutes in between
2:12:19
matches where you got Australian
2:12:22
tourism videos and fucking
2:12:24
packages and commercials and
2:12:27
goddamn Gaga and entrances
2:12:29
and flashy drone
2:12:31
shots. And
2:12:35
people are up at 6 30 in the morning
2:12:37
trying to get through this live. Fucking
2:12:40
hell. So
2:12:43
anyway, perhaps the alcohol helps. Oh,
2:12:46
I can't see how at that time of
2:12:48
day or morning or night or whatever that
2:12:50
alcohol would help you stay awake. But
2:12:54
that was the first match. Um, good
2:12:56
match and Becky one because we want
2:12:58
to see Becky and Rhea. I want
2:13:00
to see the top girls in major
2:13:03
matches that can actually perform. I don't
2:13:05
want to see a fucking
2:13:08
cast of goddamn chorus girls out there looking
2:13:10
like deer on ice doing shit that guys
2:13:13
ought to be doing. Well,
2:13:15
good match. Kennedy Stratton looked really good
2:13:17
in there. And
2:13:20
where? What are you insinuating? No,
2:13:22
she was doing good. She did a moonsault at
2:13:24
one point. Well, only Raquel had some
2:13:26
kind of flare up of a I think a skin
2:13:28
condition. That's why she looked a little out of
2:13:31
sorts. But she like a
2:13:33
true professional, tough it out and
2:13:35
competed. And
2:13:38
Naomi looked a little green around the gills
2:13:40
too. You know, it sucks when she can't
2:13:42
do her glow in the dark dancing. It
2:13:44
was daylight. Transing thing. Yeah. Beautiful
2:13:48
sunset during the next match though. But that's
2:13:50
all I was watching during the next match was
2:13:52
the sunset. I guess the
2:13:54
question is, if
2:13:57
you look at where things are and you have someone
2:13:59
like Rhea Ripley. who is in
2:14:02
my eyes for what I enjoy the best there's
2:14:04
ever been as far
2:14:06
as a women's wrestler. She gets it. And even
2:14:08
some of the matches that aren't like classics, what
2:14:11
she does in them draws you in.
2:14:13
She's really good. At the
2:14:15
same time, you have a lot of people
2:14:17
that are okay. You
2:14:19
have some that are over. But
2:14:22
if there are matches where the crowd is silent,
2:14:24
it's typically the women's matches for both companies, a
2:14:26
whole different problem in AEW. But WWE has at
2:14:29
least professional women, you know, and
2:14:31
Maxine Dupree out there doing her thing. But
2:14:34
it's almost like the Alundra Blaze
2:14:36
versus Bull Necano being the entire
2:14:38
division for a
2:14:40
year and a half or whatever, that's too
2:14:42
small. But maybe everything else is too big.
2:14:44
Like you, if you have the best like
2:14:46
a Rhea Ripley, and you have a Bianca
2:14:48
Belair who in my eyes is right up
2:14:50
there, just really, really great. Like you want them
2:14:53
to have people to feud with, but you don't need just tons
2:14:55
of people running around if
2:14:57
they're not over. Then you're trying to
2:14:59
stack a division that isn't over, but
2:15:01
there are some people in it that are. I don't know. I
2:15:05
wonder about these things. Yes, it keeps you
2:15:07
up at night. I can tell. Well,
2:15:10
anyway, so Becky's on to
2:15:12
WrestleMania to wrestle the winner,
2:15:15
wrestle at WrestleMania, to wrestle the
2:15:17
winner of the main event tonight
2:15:19
with Rhea Ripley and refrigerator Jax,
2:15:21
which is going to go on
2:15:23
last and more on that later.
2:15:27
Okay. The next match was the
2:15:29
tag team title contest. And
2:15:32
this was the quickest turnaround of the
2:15:34
night. It, the bell
2:15:36
for the tag team title match started only 14
2:15:39
minutes after the end of the previous match. So
2:15:41
they really, they were
2:15:43
moving there. And I
2:15:46
don't, I don't, I
2:15:48
just noticed him and I couldn't take my eyes
2:15:50
off him. I don't know if he always does
2:15:52
this. If I don't pay attention, what show he's
2:15:54
on or whatever, but the ring announcer rare
2:15:58
WWE mistake. let
2:16:00
him dress like an indie clown and he's
2:16:02
got the weird hair and he's got to
2:16:05
be six foot five anyway. So he looked
2:16:07
like some kind of game show host
2:16:10
out there doing a special
2:16:13
ring announcer fucking spot.
2:16:15
But does this fucking idiot dress like that
2:16:17
all the time? And I haven't noticed. Yeah,
2:16:21
I think so. Oh, Christ. All
2:16:24
right. Well, I'd fire him. He's
2:16:28
not a goddamn performer. He's a ring announcer. He's not
2:16:30
a- Well, you can tell him to dress differently. You
2:16:32
don't have to fire him. I'd
2:16:34
fire him for not knowing his place and showing up
2:16:36
like that. The fuck's the matter
2:16:38
with you? You think you're the fucking star right here?
2:16:40
Get the fuck out of here. Ring
2:16:44
announcer should be heard and only
2:16:47
seem to be heard. Should Howard Finkel have
2:16:49
been allowed to express himself instead of just
2:16:51
wearing a tuxedo? No. Every
2:16:55
once in a while, there has
2:16:57
been a local personality that
2:16:59
could get away at Boyd Pierce because everybody
2:17:02
knew him and everybody loved him. And he
2:17:04
was the folksy fellow and he could get
2:17:06
away with something like that. But you don't
2:17:08
want just every generic fucking
2:17:10
nitwit announcer that you've got dressing like
2:17:13
a goddamn one of the boys.
2:17:15
They're not gimmicks. They're fucking announcers.
2:17:20
This guy's hair anyway, he ought to be fucking beating
2:17:22
about the head and face. Anyway,
2:17:25
so it was the WWE tag team
2:17:28
title, Damien Priest and Finn baller against
2:17:30
Tyler bait and Pete Dunn. And
2:17:33
again, I honestly would have skipped
2:17:36
this, but there's only four matches on the
2:17:38
fucking show because apparently they didn't want to
2:17:40
fly anybody over to Australia to fill his
2:17:42
card out. And
2:17:44
I've just, I'll watch it for a tag
2:17:46
team match just to see the performance
2:17:50
because again,
2:17:52
I mentioned this before, the heart foundation,
2:17:54
the rockers, the Bulldogs, the Steiners, the
2:17:57
road words, the midnight express rocker, roll
2:17:59
express teleblancher. Darn Anderson, Demolade,
2:18:01
on and on and on and on and on. And
2:18:05
there's Tyler Bate and Pete Dunne.
2:18:07
They, they ruined
2:18:09
Pete Dunne when
2:18:11
Vince was still there and he went through
2:18:14
his Charles Dickens fetish phase and made a
2:18:16
bitch. And
2:18:18
I don't see how you recover from that. And
2:18:21
Tyler Bate, yeah, they were all working
2:18:23
hard and he's a wonderful young little athlete,
2:18:25
but he looks like fuzzy cupid. He
2:18:29
made Finn Balor look like a fucking giant
2:18:31
and the, the short
2:18:33
legs and odd shaped torso, these
2:18:38
Bate and Dunne, I'm sure they
2:18:40
could do well on the, the UK independent
2:18:43
scene. They
2:18:45
could be probably great talents for an
2:18:47
impact or, you
2:18:49
know, high level indie tag
2:18:52
team, cause they do nice
2:18:54
stuff, but look at them. They don't
2:18:56
have a gimmick. They don't
2:18:58
have a look. As
2:19:00
I said, Tyler Bate reaches up when he
2:19:02
hits the ropes to get his arm over
2:19:04
it. And their
2:19:07
name is the new catch Republic.
2:19:09
What the fuck is that? That
2:19:12
sounds like a Czechoslovakian fucking political
2:19:15
group. Well, you know,
2:19:17
catch wrestling, right? No, nobody
2:19:19
knows that. And
2:19:24
what does that have to do with the Republic
2:19:26
and why are they new? Was there an old
2:19:28
catch Republic? No,
2:19:32
they're, they're micro
2:19:34
casting to their indie niche
2:19:37
UK, indie show
2:19:39
fucking audience. And
2:19:42
you know, so that's anyway,
2:19:46
there was, Damien priests
2:19:48
look like Andre in the middle of this and
2:19:51
it looked like a squash match where they
2:19:53
forgot to tell the jobbers that they were
2:19:55
getting squashed. And then at that point it
2:19:57
transitioned to a lot of
2:19:59
action. basically to prove that Finn and
2:20:01
Priest can't beat preliminary guys. And
2:20:05
then it just... they
2:20:08
went false finish after false finish, they kicked
2:20:10
out of more of the heel shit. And
2:20:14
finally, Priest
2:20:16
and Finn were gonna double team the guy
2:20:20
where... Priest had
2:20:22
him up for a powerbomb and Finn was gonna
2:20:24
come off the top rope or whatever. And
2:20:28
bait Hurricanrana's Priest toward
2:20:30
the turnbuckle where Finn is on. And it's
2:20:33
gonna be like Priest headbutts Finn and the
2:20:36
nuts and crutches him. But Priest stumbled because
2:20:38
the guy went down with him. So
2:20:41
he had to crawl on his hands and knees
2:20:43
and then stand up under Finn Balor and nut
2:20:45
him on purpose with his head. Because
2:20:48
they were getting too complicated. Doing
2:20:50
shit they can't do smoothly to try to get
2:20:52
these guys over. That's
2:20:55
a fucking lost cause, a moot
2:20:58
point at a goddamn fool's errand.
2:21:01
Because the only people that like Tyler
2:21:03
Bate and Pete Dunn in this presentation are
2:21:06
the fans that they've got from England. They
2:21:09
liked them when they were a big deal over there.
2:21:12
They're not a big deal here. And
2:21:17
the state of tag team wrestling. Anyway,
2:21:19
the baby faces double teamed Priest to
2:21:21
death in front of the referee. Finn
2:21:23
disappeared for a good while. But then
2:21:25
finally Priest double
2:21:28
chokeslammed both of them. And
2:21:31
Finn came off the top with the double stomp to
2:21:33
Pete Dunn in 18 minutes.
2:21:38
18 minutes of a glorified
2:21:40
TV match. So I
2:21:43
don't know what was worst about this show is
2:21:46
that either the matches... Once
2:21:48
they ended it took forever to get the
2:21:50
next one started. Or once that match got
2:21:52
started it would never fucking end. Your
2:21:56
thoughts? I can't add too
2:21:58
much to that the sunset was good. gorgeous during
2:22:00
this match. Whenever they had
2:22:03
the wide shot and you got to see the sky,
2:22:07
it was just magical. And
2:22:11
the match, I
2:22:14
mean, they needed, they needed, they have a tag
2:22:16
team division with very few main
2:22:19
event kind of teams. You know, if you look at
2:22:21
the eighties, just WWF, not even talking about what you
2:22:23
guys were doing. Heart
2:22:25
Foundation, demolition, killer
2:22:29
bees, British
2:22:31
Bulldogs, Islanders,
2:22:35
fucking conquistadors, anyone. Everyone
2:22:37
was like a big
2:22:40
sized athlete. You
2:22:43
know, it does stand out. You said what
2:22:45
I thought at one point when Bate was
2:22:47
there next to Finn Bower, who is a
2:22:49
smaller guy. He looks
2:22:52
so much bigger than me. It's hard to
2:22:54
even figure out how tall
2:22:56
the guy must be. Is he 5'4"? I
2:22:59
don't know, but uh... Google fuzzy
2:23:02
cupid, kids. I think
2:23:04
a lot of the guys who have been in an
2:23:06
NXT system for a while are getting their shot on
2:23:08
the main roster, whether it's Gargano and Champa or these
2:23:10
two guys, and I
2:23:12
thought Butch was working pretty
2:23:15
good actually for him. We'll
2:23:17
see. Well then
2:23:19
they had a package of the bloodline
2:23:22
saga with the up-to-date business with
2:23:24
The Rock and what Cody's been
2:23:26
involved in. Do
2:23:29
you think it was after this segment, Brian? I
2:23:31
think you mentioned something like this before we went
2:23:33
on the air, that the people realized that the
2:23:35
bloodline's not even in the fucking building? I
2:23:39
heard from a few people there that there was an issue with
2:23:41
that. There was also an issue where I
2:23:43
guess the timers were going off on different sides
2:23:45
of the building at different times during the elimination
2:23:47
chamber, so the countdown would happen and then nothing
2:23:49
would happen. Yeah,
2:23:52
which was weird. I mean you heard it happen a few
2:23:54
times during the show, but yeah,
2:23:57
I think this was kind of around the time people realized.
2:24:00
Oh shit, we're not getting anything from the bloodline. Not
2:24:03
that they were billed to be there, but. Well,
2:24:05
but you know, goddamn, when you're
2:24:07
in a fucking stadium and 50,000 people,
2:24:10
one would think that they would have, anyway,
2:24:14
we're an hour and a half into the pay-per-view
2:24:17
and we've seen two matches and
2:24:19
now Austin theory is in the ring to
2:24:23
do a quick promo where he knocks Vegemite
2:24:25
and says he went to Outback for a
2:24:27
blooming onion and boy, that's making me hungry.
2:24:31
And then he introduced Grayson Waller
2:24:33
who apparently Waller is from this
2:24:37
country. If not Perth itself somewhere
2:24:39
in this God forsaken
2:24:41
land that birth Grayson Waller
2:24:44
and spawned him on
2:24:46
us. So
2:24:49
at this point, they're going to do the
2:24:51
Grayson Waller effect. I fast forwarded it until
2:24:53
somebody else came out and
2:24:55
that was Seth Franklin Rollins. And
2:24:59
here he comes. And by the time he gets
2:25:01
there, he just sits down and then here comes
2:25:03
Cody and he gets the
2:25:05
ring and he sits down. And
2:25:07
well, he didn't sit down at first. He asked the
2:25:10
people, Hey Perth, what do you want to talk about?
2:25:13
11 minutes into this segment before Cody
2:25:16
said a fucking word. It was just
2:25:19
theory introducing Waller, Waller mouthing off
2:25:22
and then the entrances. They
2:25:24
need to bring back the ring cars. If they're going to
2:25:26
do stadiums like this to get people to the ring in
2:25:28
30 seconds or less. Yes. Yes. Except
2:25:31
Bobby Heenan hated that fucking
2:25:33
WrestleMania three cart because he
2:25:35
said that they were raised, they were elevated. It
2:25:37
was only going like 10 miles
2:25:40
an hour. So the people could fucking catch him with
2:25:42
all the stuff they were throwing. Yeah. If you watch
2:25:44
cause Andre is a heel, he's the biggest heel in
2:25:46
the company at that time and he's waving,
2:25:48
you're like, why is he waving to the fence? He's
2:25:50
actually just trying to move his hand back and forth
2:25:52
to block things being thrown at him. But
2:25:57
anyway, so Cody cut some, oh
2:25:59
Seth. first, uh, he announced that
2:26:01
he's days away from being medically cleared
2:26:03
to wrestle. So
2:26:06
good since they've been advertising, he was good
2:26:08
already defend his title on WrestleMania
2:26:11
anyway. And then Cody
2:26:13
kind of talked about the rock
2:26:15
and you know, got
2:26:17
all the Cody crybabies there to cheer
2:26:19
for him. And, and
2:26:21
I just wrote, nothing is happening
2:26:24
here. I've seen fossils form
2:26:26
at a quicker pace. And
2:26:29
then Cody told the rock that he's wide
2:26:32
open to WrestleMania and he wants a one-on-one
2:26:34
match with the rock anytime, any place that
2:26:36
he wear it. Of course they
2:26:39
got to do that or something like it at some point.
2:26:43
And in Seth tells Cody that
2:26:45
there's no one-on-one with the bloodline
2:26:47
involved. If rock takes his challenge,
2:26:49
then Cody, I just want you
2:26:51
to know. And everybody know you won't be alone. And
2:26:55
people kind of cheer that. And we've established
2:26:57
that, haven't we? We've established it, but
2:26:59
not in Australia. Cause they're
2:27:02
on, well you've heard of Greenwich Mean Time.
2:27:05
They're on Australia Pissy Time. So
2:27:09
then theory steps up and starts healing
2:27:11
on Cody and Seth and starts doing
2:27:14
the rocks, but it doesn't matter what
2:27:16
you did, blah, blah, blah. And
2:27:20
then Cody and Seth just beat
2:27:22
up theory and give him their moves.
2:27:24
And Waller stood
2:27:26
back and let him do it. Obviously
2:27:29
like that, he shouldn't have
2:27:31
spoke up, I guess. And
2:27:34
that was the end of it in
2:27:36
20 fucking minutes. I
2:27:40
mean, I've seen people have conversations on
2:27:43
airplanes. It was more exciting. What
2:27:49
for a stadium for 50,000 people. That's
2:27:52
all they got. It's
2:27:54
amazing. It's also amazing. I mean, until
2:27:57
AJ Styles appears later on, it's amazing. these
2:28:00
guys over just to do this at a
2:28:03
stadium. But yeah,
2:28:05
I mean, it's weird the formula they have
2:28:07
and it's working. Give
2:28:09
the people very little with the
2:28:11
idea that maybe there'll be more next time. And
2:28:15
then the next time there's even less. But
2:28:18
they could be more the next time. And
2:28:20
then they've fallen into the hole and
2:28:22
then they're standing
2:28:24
above it saying it puts the lotion on the
2:28:26
skin or else it gets the hose again. With
2:28:32
such enthusiasm, I've never heard
2:28:34
it said. Well, you got
2:28:36
to look over the edge there. Anyway,
2:28:39
so then
2:28:42
the entrances began, ladies and gentlemen,
2:28:44
for the dreaded dangerous
2:28:47
deadly elimination chamber. And
2:28:50
that match featured Kevin Owens
2:28:52
versus Bobby Lashley versus Logan
2:28:55
Paul versus Randy Orton versus
2:28:57
Drew McIntyre versus L.A. Knight
2:29:00
with everybody saying it. And
2:29:04
I'll have you know, Brian, that
2:29:07
I went back and double-checked this. I wanted
2:29:09
to make sure my figures. Match
2:29:12
number three began.
2:29:14
The bell rang to start that match 54
2:29:19
minutes after the end of match number
2:29:21
two. They
2:29:24
had almost an hour in between
2:29:26
the end of match
2:29:28
number two and the start of match number
2:29:30
three between the exits and the spots and
2:29:32
the tourist videos and
2:29:34
the goofiness and the interview
2:29:38
segment and more entrances. It
2:29:41
was literally a one-hour television program
2:29:45
with no fucking wrestling in the middle of the
2:29:47
pay-per-view. We
2:29:50
always say imagine SmackDown without all those pesky commercials.
2:29:54
No, we still got commercials! Well,
2:29:57
not in the middle of the match. Well,
2:30:01
pretty much goddamn everywhere else. So
2:30:06
anyway, um... By the way, how's
2:30:08
that tourism thing gonna work out? Who's gonna go, You know what?
2:30:11
We needed a place to go. That Australia
2:30:13
looks great. They sponsored wrestling. Let's go.
2:30:15
Yeah, I got it in Champaign, Illinois,
2:30:17
sitting there thinking, You know, fuck
2:30:21
goddamn Chicago. Let's just go over
2:30:23
to Australia. Anyway,
2:30:27
here's what happened in this match. And...
2:30:34
There was nothing... Nobody's...
2:30:37
These guys are all talents. Some
2:30:40
great, some merely just okay,
2:30:42
whatever. But they're all talents. They're
2:30:44
all stars. They're all over. They
2:30:46
weren't doing amateur shit and, you
2:30:48
know, dropping and botching and falling
2:30:50
all over each other. But
2:30:53
there's no way to put a match like this together
2:30:56
where it makes sense or it
2:30:58
means anything from start to finish with the
2:31:00
ebbs and the flows, the
2:31:02
peaks and the valleys of an
2:31:04
athletic contest where you're pulling for
2:31:06
one side and cheering against the
2:31:08
other. In
2:31:13
this aspect, it's guys
2:31:15
doing moves to each other
2:31:18
until somebody wins. Like
2:31:20
all the multi-man matches. This one just
2:31:22
has a bigger budget and more elaborate
2:31:24
set. But also it
2:31:26
puts everybody in
2:31:28
the modern wrestling
2:31:30
position that guys in
2:31:32
the territory days throughout their history of
2:31:34
wrestling would never have been caught dead
2:31:36
being put in. Babyfaces is
2:31:39
that babyfaces have to fight
2:31:41
babyfaces, but they treat them
2:31:44
just like they're heels. And that
2:31:47
makes the babyface that's doing that
2:31:50
no better than a heel himself. I
2:31:52
will elaborate with some type of detail
2:31:54
so you might understand. In
2:31:58
days gone by... if a baby
2:32:01
face was to compete with another baby face
2:32:03
in the ring in any kind of match.
2:32:07
That, and I've talked about
2:32:10
this before, they wouldn't immediately start taking chairs
2:32:12
and hitting each other over the head or
2:32:14
punched each other in the face or trying
2:32:18
to, you know, put each other through
2:32:20
furniture and end their careers or whatever
2:32:22
the fuck. But
2:32:25
today's modern baby faces, when they're working with
2:32:27
another baby face, they do the same shit
2:32:29
to them as they do to heels, maybe
2:32:31
heels they have an issue with or heels
2:32:33
that have done something to them in
2:32:35
the past to elicit or is where fuck you, I'm going
2:32:37
to kick you in the balls straight off. Do
2:32:40
you see what I'm saying, Brian? Then
2:32:43
when the fan likes both the baby
2:32:45
faces, it disappoints
2:32:47
him in one of them, does it
2:32:49
not, that the
2:32:51
other guy is acting
2:32:54
that way. Why does he want to fucking
2:32:56
kill goddamn Farquhar there?
2:32:58
He's never done anything to him, but he's,
2:33:00
you know, taking a turnbuckle hook and he's
2:33:03
trying to pull his intestines out. Am
2:33:08
I overthinking this? Maybe a tad.
2:33:10
I mean, this is the elimination chamber. You
2:33:12
have to have baby faces and heels interact
2:33:14
with each other like the Royal Rumble. Eh,
2:33:19
nobody has any goddamn psychology for it.
2:33:22
The highlight of the match for me wasn't even
2:33:24
something they showed on TV. You
2:33:27
can see it in the background if you look for it after the fact.
2:33:30
There's a video I saw that must have been
2:33:32
a look at Paul. Logan Paul drawing on
2:33:34
the elimination chamber, fat pictures of Steen. The
2:33:37
running commentary and then they cut it and the next
2:33:39
thing you see a Steen slamming his head into the
2:33:41
thing. Yeah. That was the
2:33:43
best thing in the whole match and it wasn't even WWE's. It
2:33:45
was the way that was edited and that was put together.
2:33:47
It was great. Oh, but also
2:33:50
Logan Paul is a fucking natural. He's
2:33:52
a goddamn, just a natural. But the
2:33:55
way they did this, LA Knight and
2:33:57
Drew started. And
2:33:59
good action. And there's an issue in LA
2:34:01
night looks good and the way that they were
2:34:03
shooting with the newish camera angles and because of
2:34:06
the chamber and et cetera, very
2:34:08
big league look. And
2:34:10
then Owens was next in number three and
2:34:13
he makes a comeback and it
2:34:16
starts fucking with Logan Paul and the other
2:34:18
pod. And that's where the interaction was going on.
2:34:21
Uh, basically the
2:34:24
only thing I want to see more out
2:34:26
of this match is Logan Paul and Kevin
2:34:28
Owens. Cause they were
2:34:30
the interesting component of this. And
2:34:34
as we just mentioned, Logan Paul some
2:34:36
way got a black sharpie or whatever
2:34:39
and he's drawing and writing backwards. Like
2:34:41
Christine is served steam. Owens is fat
2:34:44
and pictures of Owens with him
2:34:46
fucking like one of the weebles that wobble you
2:34:48
fill with sand, but they won't fall over. And
2:34:52
that was great stuff. And then
2:34:55
number four was Lashley and he comes in
2:34:57
and beats up drew, but that's now we're
2:34:59
starting the, the
2:35:01
parts where two guys just have to
2:35:03
just lay out forever. And because it's
2:35:06
a elimination chamber
2:35:08
and a cage, they can't even
2:35:10
lay out on the floor or
2:35:12
under the apron or whatever. You
2:35:14
see them just laying there forever
2:35:16
while other guys are doing their
2:35:19
predetermined, pre-arranged
2:35:21
routines. And so
2:35:24
you, you can't make notes on how this match
2:35:26
went because it's guys doing moves to each other
2:35:28
back and forth. You can't follow
2:35:30
a story. It's, but when Orton
2:35:33
came in number five, business picked up because
2:35:35
P's over. People want to see him. He
2:35:37
knows how to make a comeback. And
2:35:41
then he DDT'd Owens on the
2:35:43
platform and started sold his back.
2:35:45
And that was a story through
2:35:48
the whole deal. And I, at
2:35:51
one point here later on, I made note
2:35:53
that Orton was the smartest guy in
2:35:56
this match because he came in all
2:35:59
of his shit work. nobody ever kicks out of
2:36:01
the RKO. He hurt himself
2:36:03
doing his own move but doing it
2:36:05
on a hard surface and everybody
2:36:07
knows he's got a bad back so he was
2:36:10
able to sell that and do
2:36:12
less in this match than anybody else but
2:36:14
get more response. He
2:36:16
was and had a perfect
2:36:18
out when
2:36:21
he was eliminated. He was the smartest guy
2:36:23
in the match. If either
2:36:25
they're taking care of him, which I know they
2:36:28
are, they're taking care of him
2:36:30
but it has
2:36:32
to be him also. Nobody's telling him all that stuff.
2:36:34
He picked up a lot of things it is 20
2:36:37
years in the business or whatever. Number
2:36:41
six was Logan Paul and Owens gets right in
2:36:43
front of the door and now Logan Paul's looking
2:36:45
like, uh-oh and doesn't want the door to open
2:36:48
and tries to close it when it does and
2:36:51
Owens opens it, opened it
2:36:53
up and laid into him
2:36:55
and closed the door behind him like they're having
2:36:57
to fight in the phone booth and blah blah
2:37:00
blah and Owens was all over him and then
2:37:02
Logan Paul fought back but everybody else was laying
2:37:04
immobile. Then
2:37:06
finally Lashley comes back and spears Logan Paul
2:37:08
through the door of the pod which again
2:37:12
looks good until they do that probably
2:37:14
another five times and then everybody will yawn
2:37:17
about that one. Then
2:37:20
finally Lashley was about to fucking do something
2:37:23
to somebody I believe
2:37:25
and Drew hit the claymore
2:37:27
kick on him and beat Lashley one two
2:37:29
three so he's out and
2:37:32
as soon as that happens LA Knight
2:37:36
gets a flurry and hits his
2:37:38
finish on Orton and then hits
2:37:40
his finish on Drew and looks
2:37:42
like he's gonna cover somebody and
2:37:44
suddenly AJ Styles is standing there
2:37:46
whacking LA Knight with a fucking chair and he
2:37:50
announces like where did he come from? You're
2:37:53
at a fucking stadium the ring is
2:37:55
500 feet away from the goddamn locker
2:37:57
room you couldn't see him coming? With
2:38:00
spotlights of goddamn energy
2:38:03
power company of Perth was strain
2:38:06
to the gills with all those lights and
2:38:08
there was no place that
2:38:11
you couldn't see somebody coming to the
2:38:13
ring and AJ styles comes
2:38:15
into the cage. That
2:38:18
they had the door open for lashley.
2:38:22
Add the nouncers will we can't
2:38:24
the referees can't do anything it's
2:38:27
no disqualification. This
2:38:31
is the. The
2:38:33
living epitome an example of
2:38:36
bullshit the wrong kind of heat the heated
2:38:38
goes on the promotion. I
2:38:41
don't care if it's no dq and
2:38:44
we're gonna see some more that here in a minute. You
2:38:47
can't just blatantly did kill the
2:38:49
cage it kills the stipulation of
2:38:51
the cage it kills the goddamn.
2:38:53
Credibility of the referees it gets
2:38:56
heat on the promotion it's
2:38:58
not in any way cleverly done.
2:39:02
It's just a guy not in the match runs
2:39:04
out in a impregnable cage
2:39:06
finds a way to get in
2:39:08
and beats la night ten times over
2:39:10
the fucking back with a chair. And
2:39:13
then drew just hit him where
2:39:15
it gives him a style clash on the chair.
2:39:20
And then drew just cover him one two three.
2:39:24
That's where i said to myself this
2:39:26
is getting burdensome to watch do
2:39:28
you see what i'm saying about that one. I
2:39:31
agree with you. I
2:39:33
agree with you there's gotta be a
2:39:36
way to do it more artfully than that
2:39:38
and just make everybody pissed off at the
2:39:40
company instead of the heel that's perpetrating. What
2:39:43
should be a an
2:39:45
evil insidious and creative.
2:39:49
Attack instead is just now i just came in
2:39:51
and beat him down in
2:39:53
front of everybody. And
2:39:55
then finally orton hit the arcade on owen's
2:39:57
and pin him one two three. And
2:40:01
then Drew and Orton got in a fight and then
2:40:03
Orton and Logan Paul got in a fight. And
2:40:07
then everybody was selling as we
2:40:09
passed 30 minutes in this match.
2:40:11
And then Logan Paul pulls out breast
2:40:13
nucks and the answer is again, up
2:40:15
no DQ then why didn't somebody bring
2:40:17
a Smith and Wesson? Could
2:40:21
have been over quicker and easier on everybody. But
2:40:25
Logan Paul pulls out the breast nucks. Now
2:40:27
it's no DQ but as he's holding them
2:40:29
up, showing them to everybody, like as soon
2:40:32
as I finish showing them to all of
2:40:34
you, I'm going to cheat
2:40:36
and win the match. Orton RKO's
2:40:38
him out of nowhere, 1-2-3. Ahh.
2:40:43
I know he's a heel. But
2:40:46
I just wish Logan didn't have to look
2:40:48
that fucking well. I guess he's inexperienced too.
2:40:50
So he's in an inexperienced heel so he
2:40:52
can look stupid. And he's not stupid,
2:40:54
he's flashy. He
2:40:56
embraces being a heel in character
2:40:58
and he wants the
2:41:00
audience to see exactly how heelish he is.
2:41:03
Well, flashy is standing there for about five
2:41:05
seconds showing them the nucks and then turn
2:41:08
around and get into business. Stupid
2:41:10
is standing there for about 20 to
2:41:12
25 seconds before
2:41:15
Orton comes at RKO's him. He's
2:41:18
my favorite person in this match. He was great.
2:41:20
Yes, Logan Paul, he may be one of my favorite
2:41:22
people in a whole fucking roster. He definitely is one
2:41:24
of my favorite people in the roster. I just
2:41:26
want to see more of him in one-on-one
2:41:29
stuff promo-wise and
2:41:31
match-wise. And stuff he can learn from instead
2:41:33
of, you know, this type of thing.
2:41:35
He's great though. He's one of my very favorite in
2:41:37
the whole business. But then we
2:41:40
were left. Then there were two. Randy
2:41:43
Orton and Drew McIntyre and Orton
2:41:45
still selling his back. And
2:41:47
he's so good at it because he can sell it
2:41:49
but he can still do his stuff. But even when
2:41:51
he's doing the stuff, you can tell he's still being
2:41:53
hampered. And they
2:41:56
go back and forth and Drew's
2:41:58
got him set up after a split. spinebuster for
2:42:00
the claymore, but Orton can't get to
2:42:02
his feet. And
2:42:04
then Drew stalking him and staring at him
2:42:07
and standing there at his Orton is struggling
2:42:09
to his feet and pulling himself up by
2:42:11
Drew's knee pad. And it
2:42:14
looks like Orton's a goner. Drew's
2:42:16
about to do something. Orton jumps up
2:42:18
and hits the RKO out of nowhere
2:42:20
trademark. And he
2:42:22
gets a big pop. And then Logan
2:42:25
Paul is still in the cage. And
2:42:29
I guess everybody in the stadium could
2:42:31
see that, but they're disguising it with
2:42:33
the camera angles when AJ came in
2:42:36
and that Logan Paul was still there. So
2:42:38
it's somewhat a surprise on camera, but it had to, it
2:42:40
had to piss those stadium
2:42:43
fans off that we're seeing the whole picture
2:42:45
because Logan Paul's still in the
2:42:47
ring and he just takes the nucks and knocks Orton
2:42:49
out. And
2:42:52
then he leaves and Drew
2:42:55
covers him. And
2:42:57
the referee counts it and
2:43:00
the fans were pissed. Again, the wrong kind of
2:43:02
heat done in front of the referee. The heat
2:43:04
goes on the referee as the old timers used
2:43:06
to say, but more now it goes
2:43:09
on the promotion cause it's
2:43:12
lazy booking and
2:43:16
even again, if
2:43:19
some way the referee couldn't have seen
2:43:21
Logan Paul do it, but when the
2:43:23
referee is standing there, the guy who's
2:43:25
already been eliminated, takes a foreign object,
2:43:28
knocks their hero out and
2:43:30
in the referee counts it, people are out.
2:43:32
Bullshit. So wrong that
2:43:34
people would not buy tickets to see
2:43:36
next week's rematch. If this was the
2:43:38
territory days, luckily the
2:43:41
WWE is now in position
2:43:43
where they only have rematches
2:43:45
in the same town, maybe once a year,
2:43:49
but I just a
2:43:52
bullshit finish 37 minutes of this match
2:43:54
that we waited almost an hour to see the
2:43:57
start of. And
2:43:59
then. The main
2:44:01
players get taken out by
2:44:03
either somebody that's not in the match at
2:44:05
all, or somebody that's not in the match anymore,
2:44:08
blatantly in front of the referees with foreign fucking
2:44:10
objects and, oh, you can't do anything because there's
2:44:13
no DQ. Well, then
2:44:15
they painted themselves in the wrong silo
2:44:17
corner. Well,
2:44:19
that really sums it up, doesn't it? Are
2:44:22
you getting bored with me? Not
2:44:25
with you, but with WWE. I
2:44:27
mean, you know, when the stuff hits, it
2:44:29
hits great, but a lot of
2:44:31
stuff just feels like just
2:44:34
holding everything in place. But like
2:44:36
you said, it took a while to... WrestleMania
2:44:39
3 was like
2:44:41
three hours and it was like 13 matches. And
2:44:43
I'm not saying we should go
2:44:45
back to eight minute matches or six
2:44:48
minute matches up and down the
2:44:50
card, but there used to be a card. And
2:44:53
we're going back a hundred years now where there was two, three
2:44:55
matches on a show. And an interview.
2:44:58
And that's the thing is that
2:45:00
again, we're not saying there should be 13 matches
2:45:03
like in AEW. There's
2:45:05
a big difference between four and 13
2:45:07
and everything takes... And this is the
2:45:09
simplest, most simplistic way out. And yes,
2:45:11
it's working for them, but good
2:45:15
Lord, it's a chore for
2:45:18
the discerning fan to muddle through.
2:45:22
And we've got one more big event to go
2:45:24
and I'll explain why that was the main event
2:45:26
in a moment. But first Triple H was in
2:45:28
the ring to announce the official
2:45:30
attendance and thank everybody. 52,590 people.
2:45:36
And that's the point I was going to make that goes
2:45:38
into what you just said. I
2:45:40
can understand if it was just
2:45:42
an in your house pay
2:45:45
per view and what, 95
2:45:47
in Poughkeepsie just to, you know, just
2:45:50
to have the show, but a stadium in front
2:45:53
of 50,000 people with all of the... And
2:45:57
how much money they got paid by the
2:46:00
Australian... Tourism commission and
2:46:03
they couldn't move it anything along
2:46:05
better or give them more variety
2:46:07
than, than what happened here. That's
2:46:11
my problem. So we get to the main event
2:46:14
for the women's world title,
2:46:16
Rhea Ripley versus refrigerator Jacks.
2:46:21
And we all know why they put this match
2:46:23
on last because Rhea Ripley is Australia and it's
2:46:25
her home country. Her whole family was in the
2:46:27
front row and normally
2:46:30
I, well, fuck your family
2:46:32
and fuck your hometown if you're not over,
2:46:34
but she's over, she's better
2:46:36
over than any woman in the company.
2:46:39
So they put this match on last
2:46:41
because it was her triumphant homecoming. However,
2:46:44
the opponent,
2:46:48
unfortunately, I, I
2:46:50
felt so bad for Rhea Ripley. She
2:46:54
gets the main event in a
2:46:56
stadium in front of a crowd like that in her
2:46:59
home country, but the
2:47:01
other half of the Faustian bargain
2:47:04
is that she has to have a
2:47:06
match with an almost immobile, untalented, completely
2:47:08
charisma list performer who's going to botch
2:47:10
it up right and left. And
2:47:15
this, can you imagine if Charlotte
2:47:17
was healthy, they would have set this
2:47:19
stadium on people would have been having
2:47:21
heart attacks and babies in the audience.
2:47:24
Possibly at the same time, but
2:47:27
this was like Ray Stevens versus Mabel.
2:47:29
Was it not? I
2:47:32
don't think it was necessarily that bad. It
2:47:37
was like Shawn Michaels versus plow boy
2:47:39
Frazier. Or Shawn Michaels
2:47:41
versus Mabel. I just wanted to go to just
2:47:43
a direct comparison to what you said before. It
2:47:46
would, I mean, I mean, what did you, I mean, it's not
2:47:49
a Jack. She doesn't do, she
2:47:51
does her night. She wrestles like a big, you
2:47:53
know, haystacks, Calhoun type of. No,
2:47:56
I'm not, I'm not even taking.
2:48:00
If they had awesome Kong during
2:48:03
her TNA years in that part
2:48:05
of her career versus Rhea Ripley,
2:48:09
a malevolent, aggressive monster heel
2:48:11
that could do shit and
2:48:13
had personality and had
2:48:16
aggression, Rhea
2:48:18
Ripley would have looked like Riggy Morton, right?
2:48:21
That would have been great. I'm
2:48:23
not just talking about
2:48:26
refrigerator Jax's excessive fucking
2:48:30
resemblance to a goddamn bark-a-lounger.
2:48:34
I'm talking about there's nothing there.
2:48:36
She can't talk with emotion. She
2:48:38
has that sable voice. Her work
2:48:40
is blah. She's not coordinated. She
2:48:44
can't be a monster. She
2:48:46
just drops her weight on people. And
2:48:50
the introductions. There were
2:48:52
no weights announced. What else has she
2:48:54
got? They should
2:48:56
announce at 150 pounds from Australia, Rhea Ripley,
2:48:59
and at 336 pounds from wherever the
2:49:05
fuck she's at, refrigerator
2:49:07
Jax. And then there's the
2:49:10
verbal reinforcement that this goddamn
2:49:12
huge giant monolith is
2:49:14
so much bigger than our hero
2:49:17
Rhea. But they don't announce
2:49:19
their weights at all. What
2:49:21
other attribute has Jax got
2:49:23
besides that? Nothing.
2:49:27
She looks like a recliner wrapped in pleather.
2:49:30
It... Speaker
2:49:33
Mabel, the outfit of Mabel. And
2:49:36
when she missed the big sit-down butt
2:49:38
drop, the fans were chanting my whole
2:49:40
because that's still a joke from her
2:49:43
doing that a couple of years ago.
2:49:47
And Rhea couldn't do her shit here
2:49:49
because you can't do it to fucking
2:49:51
Jax. It's not possible. And
2:49:54
if Rhea Ripley could not sell as
2:49:58
wonderfully as she can... this would have been
2:50:00
a total loss because that's what, you know, she
2:50:03
had to sell fight from underneath, make a little
2:50:05
comeback and get shut down again. And
2:50:08
she can't make a decent comeback
2:50:10
because this girl can't fucking bump. And
2:50:16
then they went so
2:50:18
long, you know, Nia
2:50:20
hits the Samoan drop off the second
2:50:22
rope and gets a two count. And
2:50:25
then she goes for the bonsai, but Rhea
2:50:28
comes up underneath her and shoulder rides her
2:50:30
for a second, puts her into the turnbuckle
2:50:32
and in frog splasher gets a two count.
2:50:34
Okay, that's fine. But then we
2:50:37
go to the floor and Nia
2:50:41
is giving her the fucking drop on the
2:50:43
desk and an elbow drop through the desk.
2:50:46
Even though, did
2:50:49
you see when Rhea's
2:50:51
laying on the announced desk and
2:50:54
Nia Jax gets up in one of
2:50:56
the announced chairs that has wheels on
2:50:58
it. And
2:51:00
she's still only at the same level of the
2:51:02
goddamn top of the announced
2:51:04
desk. And she flies off of
2:51:06
that with an elbow drop and it looked like
2:51:08
she actually was lower
2:51:11
to the ground than when she jumped before
2:51:13
she landed. She can't even get up off
2:51:15
the fucking ground. And so
2:51:17
finally, Jax
2:51:21
goes to the top and Rhea catches her and gives
2:51:23
her the shortest superplex in history
2:51:26
because she can't fall. She can't push
2:51:28
off the top and fall, Ken
2:51:30
Nia Jax. And
2:51:32
then Rhea gives her the kick to the
2:51:34
head and the riptide. One, two, three. And
2:51:38
poor Rhea, they put her through 16
2:51:41
minutes of hell. Every unnaturally
2:51:43
large fat person cannot be
2:51:45
a professional wrestler. We've
2:51:48
talked about in the past many times promoters
2:51:51
have been able to steal a house out of
2:51:53
a big schlub once
2:51:55
or twice, but
2:51:59
no, not a. I'm not on this level
2:52:02
with this visibility.
2:52:07
In Cleveland, if this had been the main event,
2:52:09
people would have been leaving to beat the traffic.
2:52:12
They prospered that it was Ria's home
2:52:14
country. But
2:52:17
boy, I felt so bad for her. She can do so
2:52:19
much more than this. And it's just,
2:52:22
if she was not a good worker, I'm
2:52:24
talking about Jax, if she wasn't a good
2:52:26
worker and had no
2:52:28
more mobility, but she had menace
2:52:31
and presence and was a
2:52:33
big fucking malevolent
2:52:35
heel, as I said, that'd be one thing.
2:52:37
But just this plodding
2:52:40
bleh, I just, eh.
2:52:45
Plus the show was three and a half hours long.
2:52:47
We had an hour and 45 minutes of wrestling. I
2:52:50
thought Ria looked good. I thought she got the most
2:52:52
out of Nia Jax as you could. Had her family
2:52:54
at ringside, they made a big deal of that. When
2:52:58
she threw Ria on the announced desk, I
2:53:01
have to go back and see it. It
2:53:03
was almost like one of the monitors or iPads,
2:53:05
whatever they use at this point, was standing up
2:53:07
straight. It looked like she landed right on top
2:53:09
of it. And
2:53:12
everybody does that now. There's
2:53:14
no... It
2:53:16
doesn't stand out. Nobody remembers it because, as
2:53:18
we'll talk about when we get to
2:53:20
AEW, sometimes matches these days you see on
2:53:23
TV have five or six tables in
2:53:25
the same match. It's just useless,
2:53:27
meaningless. But
2:53:30
you can get hurt. And
2:53:33
to the WWE's, I guess, credit,
2:53:35
not really their credit, but the
2:53:37
fans seem to leave happy. We
2:53:39
could say whatever we want about how boring the event
2:53:41
was or whatever you felt about
2:53:43
it at home, the fans there seem
2:53:45
to be happy with Ria Ripley being in the main
2:53:48
event and getting the win. Well,
2:53:50
of course. And because they... This
2:53:52
is the first big show in
2:53:55
Australia in... Well,
2:53:57
the biggest show ever in Australia, probably.
2:54:00
first big one in many of these people's
2:54:02
memories as fans, right? They've been there before,
2:54:04
but not on this stage. And
2:54:07
they never get something like this. So they were jacked
2:54:09
for it. They were going to like it unless, you
2:54:12
know, the fucking whole building blew
2:54:14
up. Uh, and
2:54:16
I don't blame them for being hand. They got
2:54:18
to go and see everybody in person and get
2:54:20
the merchandise and experience the atmosphere, blah, blah, blah.
2:54:24
If you were in America and got to
2:54:26
see if you chose to, if you wanted
2:54:28
to. Multiple major
2:54:30
shows a year near you. You
2:54:34
might not have been as fucking thrilled. And
2:54:37
that's only natural also, but as a,
2:54:40
as a television broadcast,
2:54:43
this was incredibly, incredibly
2:54:45
slow to watch. Uh,
2:54:48
we could agree on that, right? Yeah, we can.
2:54:50
And it's incredible. The idea that you could have
2:54:52
a stadium show and draw 50,000 people with four matches,
2:54:55
five matches, whatever it is in a giant
2:54:58
interview segment. That's all it
2:55:00
takes. Yeah. Even Bill Watson, the
2:55:02
superdome for his biggest shows loaded
2:55:05
with people being brought in, you know,
2:55:08
Dusty Rose Hogan and Andre were on the
2:55:10
show with JYD and Michael Hayes or lots
2:55:12
of attractions. It wasn't just
2:55:14
like, all right, here's our four biggest
2:55:16
matches from TV. Well,
2:55:18
but, but here's the complete difference because
2:55:21
now the majority of the tickets for
2:55:23
these big events are sold before the
2:55:25
card or the people auditor even announced,
2:55:28
whereas in the territory days, even
2:55:31
on a major show like the superdome, your
2:55:34
advance would maybe be 25% of
2:55:37
the walk up you would get between four and eight
2:55:39
o'clock that day, maybe
2:55:42
a little bit more on a, even
2:55:44
on a big show on spot shows. It
2:55:46
was a 10th of the crowd you'd
2:55:48
end up with. Those people
2:55:50
waited until they knew what the card was going
2:55:52
to be. Do we want to see these matches?
2:55:55
They would see the last week or two of
2:55:57
go home TVs and angle would hit them. And
2:56:00
they'd say, well, we're gonna, it's not like the
2:56:03
Superdome was gonna sell out. And
2:56:05
especially if people were an hour away or whatever, they'd
2:56:07
say, well, we'll drive down there and see
2:56:09
that show. We'll get there early so we can get a good
2:56:11
seat. But now, for
2:56:14
Wembley, AEW, they sold the tickets before they
2:56:17
knew what they were gonna see and they've
2:56:19
done it again. Only half as many, but
2:56:21
that's same principle. And
2:56:24
no matter what's on the card or added
2:56:26
to the card, except if it's a rock
2:56:28
level or Cena level type thing, nothing
2:56:32
really picks up at the end anyway. It's just
2:56:34
whether or not people are gonna go out of
2:56:36
their way to watch it on television or the
2:56:39
cock or whatever. Yeah, we
2:56:41
saw it a few years ago at Ring of Honor
2:56:43
in New Japan when they ran the garden and
2:56:46
the tickets sold out before anything was announced and then
2:56:48
a lot of the wrestlers that people assumed were gonna
2:56:50
be there, the elite for instance, weren't
2:56:52
there. They were somewhere else so you
2:56:54
got a card. There wasn't even that. So you bought tickets
2:56:56
for a show thinking you were gonna get something, you got
2:56:58
none of that. Well, in
2:57:02
these cases, in the case of Wembley, in
2:57:04
the case of Perth here, in a
2:57:07
case of a first-time thing somewhere, they're
2:57:09
just buying a ticket to be there
2:57:11
for the first big thing and they're
2:57:14
hoping the cards gonna be good. Again,
2:57:17
in the territory days when wrestling was
2:57:19
regular, live in every city in America
2:57:21
on a regular basis, if
2:57:24
people didn't like the matches, the lineup, the angles
2:57:26
that were going on on TV, they didn't want
2:57:28
to see the fucking who was gonna win, they
2:57:31
just wouldn't go. But you
2:57:34
wouldn't know until the day of
2:57:36
the show because under the
2:57:38
best of circumstances, your
2:57:40
day of show crowd was gonna end up
2:57:42
being three or four times what your advance
2:57:45
was. That's no longer
2:57:47
the case. Alright, yeah
2:57:49
the building, the businesses now all
2:57:52
advance pretty much. As soon
2:57:54
as I'm sitting there, the
2:57:56
next thing is gonna be they're gonna start bringing the tickets
2:57:58
back. the tickets
2:58:00
now when they don't know what they're going to see
2:58:02
and then they find out what the card is. The
2:58:04
next step is they find out what the card is,
2:58:06
they start getting refunds for the tickets. Because
2:58:10
as soon as you tell them what they're going
2:58:12
to see, the fucking ticket sales pretty much come
2:58:14
to a grinding halt, don't they? Yeah, they announced
2:58:17
Sting's retirement, no match. It sold
2:58:19
out just on a strength or almost sold
2:58:21
out on the strength of just Sting's retirement. Then
2:58:24
they announced what the match was going to be and everybody's
2:58:26
been complaining about it since then. Well,
2:58:28
they're stuck. They already got their ticket and we
2:58:30
were stuck and that was WWE elimination chamber. This
2:58:32
is your show. Well now,
2:58:35
Brian, we have come to the part of
2:58:37
the program where we could just sit back
2:58:39
and remark, what in the
2:58:41
wide wide world of sports were they
2:58:43
thinking? Because it's time to talk
2:58:45
about AEW. And by the way, folks,
2:58:47
this is the
2:58:49
last week at AEW, I mean,
2:58:51
they're colder than a witch's tit, colder
2:58:54
than a banker's heart, colder than a
2:58:56
well digger's ass. Nobody has even asked
2:58:58
and we haven't bothered to offer that
2:59:01
we haven't really talked about AEW
2:59:03
since last week's Dynamite, which
2:59:06
is now, well, four or
2:59:08
five days ago, I can't count anymore.
2:59:10
And nobody's asked about it. Nobody gave
2:59:12
a shit, particularly either way. And then
2:59:16
they had a collision. The
2:59:19
program on Saturday night was aptly named
2:59:21
because of a wide variety
2:59:24
of their roster had a headfirst
2:59:26
collision with the fucking canvas on
2:59:28
Saturday night. And
2:59:30
so just for the sake of being
2:59:34
responsible journalists and
2:59:36
commentators, we
2:59:39
will just talk about
2:59:41
and try to
2:59:44
analyze again as briefly as
2:59:46
possible. What do they
2:59:48
think they're doing? They
2:59:50
will not change the program
2:59:52
for the better because I
2:59:54
don't believe they know or
2:59:56
realize that it's not good and It's.
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