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here's some apple pie for you.
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How you like these apples? AEW,
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they have, here's the thing.
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I don't even know how to phrase this, Brian, but
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I'm looking at the two programs this
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past week for
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the EVPs and the man
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who sits on the board. And
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in this case, the
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AEW angle has been,
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they're trying to make the
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buckaroos. Art
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imitate life because everybody knows that they're
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EVPs in real life and they're douchebags
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in real life. So now they're presenting
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them as the EVPs that are douchebags
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on the, on the television. And
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they've been the EVPs to everyone's everlasting
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regret for five years since this company
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has been around now, right? The
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Rock just got on the board of directors,
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what fucking January 27 and
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or whatever date. And
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so in six weeks now, everybody saw
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the Rock on a board of directors.
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It looks like that AEW is doing
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a minor league, junior
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high school ripoff of the big angle
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on the WWE, when in actuality they
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came up with it first. They're just
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doing it with real actual fucking megastars.
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See, the other thing is the Rock,
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and I know we'll talk about Smackdown
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later. The Rock, when
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he does it, he says, I'm your boss. I'm on
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the board of directors. That's a boss.
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EVPs have a boss who also
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has a role on this show, feeding
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info to Shivani. I just
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talked to Tony Tom and he says I could
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take a dump during a commercial break. So
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why doesn't the P do something about
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the EVPs? Cause
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there's too much pee peeing going on behind
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the scenes. Everybody's
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lifting their leg and peeing on something,
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trying to make it their territory. But
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no, you are, you are correct, sir. Yes, sir.
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Because it takes Tony, as we will, when we
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talk about their side of the. street later on
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in the show, it takes
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Tony Khan literally four to
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five seconds by stopwatch to
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validate or make a match whenever
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it has even first been
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uttered out of someone's lips. But
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his EVPs who technically as you
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mentioned work for him are running
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roughshod on a television program with
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baseball bats and nobody's saying shit
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trying to stop them. And
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it's gonna be a massive pop when
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Paul Leveque comes to the ring to confront
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the Rock even if there's a match. Even
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if they push him out it becomes the
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modern Ron Wright. Like he's in a wheelchair
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then he gets out he throws a punch
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and he gets back in the wheelchair. Whatever
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it is. Put up your umbrellas for falling
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babies. The babies will go in the air
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once that this particular
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issue at WrestleMania has gone by.
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There's so much the Rock and
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Roman the Rock and Triple H
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not in a just a promo.
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Just a
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not a rivalry but an
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animosity between them in terms
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of a struggle for power involving other main
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event people that will elevate this thing to
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the stratosphere have I made myself clear. Right.
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And that's just the Triple H option. There were
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other options who can come out there and shut
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down the Rock somehow. Like the group of baby
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faces get together to top baby faces because they
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feel like top baby faces. Whatever. In AEW who's
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gonna shut down the EVPs? It
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could be their boss. Like
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that's the thing who's gonna be able to do it. It has
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to be their boss or Omega comes back and
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says I'm an EVP and then we
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get the big Omega bucks viewed. Let
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me just explain something to the
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folks out there. I don't
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know when it's gonna happen. I don't know where
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it's gonna happen. But there will
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come a day there will come a moment when
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the Rock has just gone too
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fucking far with his power struggle
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whether he's a wrestler or whether
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he's a border director. of
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whatever, he's in the ring in front of a
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sold-out building, and he has just
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stepped over a line. And
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Nick Khan's fucking face is
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gonna pop up on that
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Titan-tron from Stanford, Connecticut, with
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the flag flying in the
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background, to say, o
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contraire, mon frère. I'm
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the new Jack Tunney. I have
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a very robust neck. And Nick
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Khan will get a pop-rivaling El
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Santo in his glory days. I
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am the true Khan of wrestling.
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And then Nick Khan, by satellite
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and fucking The Rock, will go
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back and forth leading to, and
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I'm telling it, Nick, they will
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end up, Howie the mailroom guy,
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if he's still there, if he
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wasn't purged along with the
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Vince regime, will be
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over by the time they get finished with
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this thing. It's board of directors, so there
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have to be other board of directors members
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introduced eventually to help get The Rock out
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of this position as he becomes more tyrannical
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in this position. Yeah, and
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there's the line, hey, Rock, it's
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not board of director. It's board
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of directors, and a-boom. You
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see, ladies and gentlemen, not accepting The
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Rock as a babyface caused all this.
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This is the rock we wanted. There
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you go. The
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people have spoken. And
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meanwhile, over across the other way, he's
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giving you legit attitude, and
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it's working, and then you have the bucks doing, where
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are the bosses? Hey, call us by
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our full name, because that's what a boss would
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do. I don't know what the fuck that is.
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They're doing a YouTube program
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with YouTube personalities
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who think they're on network television.
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And here's the biggest movie star
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in Hollywood, showing
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them how it's done, and to their
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candy asses or whatever the fuck. But
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anyway, I've
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got to give you an update on what we... talked about last
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week on the program, Brian. You remember the big
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worldwide news in Louisville, Kentucky, the
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bridge, the truck off the bridge,
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the 18-wheeler dangling
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half in and half off of the
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second Street bridge over the Ohio River
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with the driver still
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stuck in it, cab dangling, fucking
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hood up, shit falling,
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you know, fucking the...
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you can see it the movie scene, right?
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Where the screws and the bits of bridge
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are falling and plop plop and she's going,
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oh shit, dangled
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there for 45 minutes, the fire
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department lowers the guy by cable
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in a harness similar to
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what they used to raise me over the ring
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in in Louisiana and pulled
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her out of the cab and they hauled both of them
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up and then they got that truck
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off the bridge, which the only
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reason that it didn't go completely into
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the river was, you know how it's like
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50 feet long, that trailer, right? When
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it flipped up, half of it
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on the top was stuck under
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the steel girders of the actual framework of
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the bridge. It was too long to go
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through the opening. If it had been a
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little shorter, it would have just gone straight
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through, right? So it was
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a fucking millisecond away
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from being a big deal. So
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I said, you know, that's one of the
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bridges and the other bridge, one of the
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other bridges over the Ohio, they were doing
9:27
routine maintenance on so it really clogged traffic
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up, right? And
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who knows how long that bridge is gonna be closed
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is what I said. Well,
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I'll have you know, Brian, do you know when
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they reopened that fucking bridge that the truck went
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off of the edge of? When
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I what? Do you know when they...
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do you understand the words that are coming out of
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my mouth? Do you
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know when they reopened that
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bridge that the truck had gone
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off of? I have no idea, no. Like
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the next fucking day they
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inspected it. They had the sidewalk was
10:05
the only thing damage. They said just
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the pedestrian sidewalk on the edge and
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they, and they inspected it and they
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thought, okay, it's the, I
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think it's the oldest and it's certainly the
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smallest bridge across the Ohio river that we've
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got, but in this fucking giant tractor
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trailer truck that was in the middle of a
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four car accident that caused this to begin with
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fucking goes off the edge of it dangles
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there with that weight in
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the steel structure for hours until
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they were able to haul that
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thing up and
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they reopened that bridge the next day. But
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you know, that bridge that they are doing the
10:42
routine maintenance on, I think it was a little
10:45
paving and painting or whatever that's
10:47
the, the bridge interstate 64,
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if you want to go from downtown
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Louisville into Southern Indiana and to the
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west to St. Louis, you
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take interstate 64, right? Louisville
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to St. Louis, big route, big
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fucking bridge, long fucking bridge. Right?
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They're doing the routine maintenance.
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Unquote on that. About
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three days ago in the
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middle of a fucking work day, week
11:14
day, broad daylight,
11:16
early afternoon, they
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sent out the signal, shut this son
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of a bitch down. And
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they shut the whole bridge down both
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ways to interstate 64 traffic at that.
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As soon as they could get cops
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out there to send everybody off
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the last exit and say, fuck you, you're, you're, you're not going.
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And it has remained
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closed to this point. They found, oh,
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goddamn, how did they phrase it? Some
11:48
way or another, there is structural shit out of alignment
11:50
in that fucking bridge that needs to be inspected further
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and or addressed. He's
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a goddamn idiot. giant.
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The second street bridge is
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a goddamn cowboy Lang bridge,
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a Lord Littlebrook bridge next
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to this bridge and
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they opened it the next and they shut this
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son of a bitch down and said no, nothing.
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So now you've got to go all the
12:17
way around the loop in southern Indiana. But
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the point is, people don't drive over
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any of these fucking bridges. Just
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stay in your homes. Or
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just don't drive a giant truck on one of
12:29
these bridges. No, fuck, they
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shut it down for anything. That means
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they're fixing it then it'll be
12:37
safe to drive on. Well goddamn,
12:39
they're doing routine maintenance and suddenly,
12:41
just in the sperm of the
12:43
moment, they say, oh fuck,
12:46
shut it down now. That to
12:48
me indicates that there has been
12:50
a lack of fucking attention given
12:53
to goddamn issues that may have
12:55
exacerbated over time. That I
12:57
don't want to be the canary in the coal mine, putting
13:00
across in my fucking SUV
13:04
or even somebody in a Honda Civic
13:06
when the whole goddamn thing becomes a
13:08
fucking special effects scene in a movie.
13:10
I do, that's
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why I didn't like that fucking Northeast. You got
13:15
to go across those fucking bridges that were built
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by who knows
13:20
goddamn Lincoln's troops. Like good
13:22
steel workers in the 1900s.
13:25
In the 18 fucking 80s. What bridges? What
13:27
bridges in the 1880s are you speaking
13:29
of? Look, when did they build a George
13:31
Washington Bridge, Mr. New York motherfucker? Hold on,
13:33
fancy pants. Hold on Louisville motherfucker. I guarantee
13:36
you, as in the 1800s, I'll come up
13:38
there and kiss your ass on it. I
13:40
don't want you to come up here. Stay
13:42
with me. No, you book Thursday. Stay where
13:44
you are. There's traffic in southern Indiana. Thursday
13:46
afternoon at two o'clock with a goddamn camera
13:48
crew, I will kiss your ass on the
13:51
George Washington Bridge if it was not open
13:53
before 1900. Construction started October 1927. It
13:55
opened October 25th, 1930. Now
14:02
there's another bridge up there that's really old.
14:05
Keep naming all the bridges you know. Let's see how many bridges you know in
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this area. What about that 59th
14:10
Street bridge? Is it feeling groovy? It's feeling
14:12
groovy. What's another name for that bridge? There's
14:15
two more names for that bridge. The name for
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it is I'm trying to distract from the fact
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that I'm going to have to come up there and
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kiss your ass on the George Washington Bridge bridge. It's
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also the Queensborough Bridge. It's also the Ed Koch Memorial
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Bridge. I
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thought it was Koch. Ed Koch? Ed
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Koch. That was Ed Koch. He
14:33
was pretty famous. He hosted Saturday Night Live. He wrote
14:35
the book Mayor. I thought he was related
14:37
to the Koch brothers. He was in
14:39
the Muppets taking the right wing industrialists.
14:41
No, they're the Koch brothers. It's spelled
14:43
the same way. It's spelled the same
14:45
way. One's Koch, one's Koch, and one's Koch.
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There's no Koch. When
14:50
Ed Koch, there's no Koch. That was one of
14:52
his campaign slogans, I believe. Okay.
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I think we've distracted enough from my kissing
14:57
your ass. Well, boy, it's an old goddamn
14:59
broken-down bridge is what it is. And
15:02
it's scary. And it's obviously
15:05
not – any of those – and
15:07
the tunnel? What about that
15:10
Lincoln Tunnel? Was it dug by Abraham
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Lincoln? Did he turn the first spade
15:14
of soil? It's
15:16
– ever since 9-11, any time you go through one
15:18
of those tunnels or on the Verrazano or something, all you're
15:20
thinking is like, man, if there's any terrorists right now, like
15:23
this is one of their main targets, you would think, and
15:26
this could be it. That's what all – I've got to
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get off this bridge as fast as I fucking can. Yes.
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Yes. That's what I'm telling you. And having
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to go through that tunnel, whenever we'd go
15:35
up there for Ring of Honor, Stacey would
15:37
be feeding me a Xanax 30 minutes out
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because I would fucking – I
15:43
can see the movie in my mind's eye,
15:45
the fireball coming down the tunnel. Yeah, no,
15:47
the Holland Tunnel is a picnic, too. Well,
15:50
that's right. It's the Holland Tunnel, not
15:52
the Lincoln Tunnel. Well, both all of
15:54
those tunnels. Yeah, there's the Midtown Tunnel,
15:56
there's the Holland Tunnel, there's the Lincoln
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Tunnel. point is they've
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got hundreds of millions
16:03
of pounds of water on top
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of them and some fucking Italian
16:07
guy from Brooklyn was digging it.
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So, you know... Again, good
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quality American steelworkers and laborers who
16:15
built this country to where it
16:17
is, I don't think you should
16:19
be putting them down. And the
16:21
fucking awesome magnitude of the power
16:23
of the goddamn natural powers of
16:26
gravity. I'm
16:28
putting them up against the goddamn
16:30
steelworkers union. If
16:34
the steelworkers union comes up with a way
16:36
to fucking suspend the law of gravity, then
16:40
I'm on their side. All right,
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this has turned into a weird discussion. Well,
16:46
because I'm thinking about politics and the
16:48
laws of gravity and all the laws
16:50
of right and justice in
16:52
the American way because of
16:55
our president, Joseph R. Biden, who
16:58
gave the State of the Union address the other
17:00
night and told everybody what
17:02
the hell that he thought they ought to
17:04
be doing and he was right about everything.
17:08
And I'm just going to ask a question. I'm
17:10
not going to quote it chapter and verse. But
17:13
Brian, again, the
17:17
prevailing opinion amongst the Trump suckers,
17:19
the Fox News, the FAW News
17:22
crowd and all of the people
17:24
who can't accept living in the
17:27
real world and reality is
17:30
that Biden's a
17:32
daughtering senile old man and Trump
17:34
is a vivacious, articulate,
17:38
aggressive, powerful,
17:40
fucking whatever the fuck
17:43
when in actuality it's the exact
17:45
opposite. They are living in a
17:47
mirror world. Can anyone deny that
17:50
Donald Trump cannot string
17:52
five coherent words together
17:54
in a sentence and even
17:56
get to punctuation? He
17:59
doesn't know the meaning of it. twelve words of
18:01
the English language, he is
18:04
trying to figure out what lie to come up
18:06
with next, he makes up
18:08
his own words and people think that
18:10
it's cute and
18:13
he is obviously mentally
18:16
unwell, he is
18:18
the deranged babbling of a
18:20
blithering old senile
18:23
idiot. A
18:25
blithering old senile, he is Al
18:27
Capone with syphilis in the latter
18:29
stages. He once may
18:31
have been an effective con man, but
18:35
now he is fucking talking
18:37
about goddamn his
18:40
diarrhea, but
18:42
they eat it up. But then Biden
18:44
comes out and for
18:46
almost an hour and a half he told everybody
18:48
what they needed to hear. He
18:51
told the Republican
18:54
enablers, ex-president pig shit
18:57
that they weren't going to take away people's
19:00
Medicare and Social Security, he wasn't going to
19:02
allow that to happen. They
19:06
wouldn't even applaud, what about Mike Johnson, the
19:08
Speaker of the House now since they ran
19:10
the last one off, the Republicans can't even
19:13
agree on which one can take us back
19:15
to the dark ages more quickly, so
19:17
now it's this religious fanatic. He
19:20
couldn't even stand up for political
19:23
violence has no place in the United
19:25
States of America. Oh
19:28
my God, how hard a fucking line
19:30
is that, but unfortunately they can't really
19:33
do that. Applaud it or they'd be
19:35
hypocrites because they're the ones that popularized
19:37
it January 6th, couple of years ago.
19:41
So then he looks at the
19:43
Supreme Court, six of I believe of them,
19:45
six of them are at least are fanatics,
19:49
about four of those were appointed by
19:51
Trump himself. He
19:53
looks at the Supreme Court and he says, and
19:55
if I can get the American people to vote
19:57
and give me the proper. I
20:01
will ensure that women have their right
20:03
to abortion and health
20:06
care and that you don't take that away." And
20:11
then when they
20:13
would have wanted to boo him about various
20:15
things, he would fucking fire back at him,
20:17
oh really? Well, I'll show you where you
20:19
said that type of thing. There was, of
20:23
course, the noted cum-gargling
20:26
trailer park penis koozie, Marjorie Treason
20:28
Green, that was trying to hoot
20:31
because she's auditioned for Trump and,
20:33
Marge, I hate to tell you,
20:36
Trump ain't gonna fuck you because there's some things
20:38
even a pig won't do. But
20:41
she shows the example of what they
20:43
have fucking become as a goddamn political
20:46
party of the stupid, the uneducated,
20:49
the trashy, and
20:51
the backward. But
20:54
Biden spoke for an hour and a
20:56
half and told everybody what they needed
20:59
to hear, including the American people. I
21:01
am standing in the way of
21:03
this fucking idiot and democracy. And
21:07
unfortunately, the pod people have taken
21:09
over a significant part of the
21:11
American population, so we need to
21:13
vote right. That's what he was
21:15
basically saying. He was illustrating that
21:17
we may not be able to get out of it next time and
21:22
we'll be a goddamn laughingstock of the
21:24
world if we make that mistake again
21:28
until, of course, the eventual ending of
21:30
the world is the result of us
21:32
making that mistake. We do not have
21:34
the responsibility that we used to protect the
21:36
world anymore. Now they're all sitting here looking
21:38
at us like, oh fuck, what
21:40
are they gonna do this time? But
21:44
anyway, I
21:46
thought he did wonderfully for a senile
21:49
old sleepy guy. Did you
21:52
see the woman after him from Alabama,
21:54
the Republican woman from Alabama? Yes. Now
21:59
that was insane. That's
22:01
what I'm saying. They have come to
22:03
this that they are appealing to the
22:05
fringe element of everything. The
22:08
fringe religious fanatics, even regular religious people
22:10
won't go as far as these nuts.
22:12
But the fringe ones will. And
22:15
the fringe militias and the
22:17
fringe patriots and the fringe
22:19
QAnons and the fringe everything.
22:22
And this was an example
22:24
of they love...they...remember when they thought they
22:26
were going to be running against Hillary Clinton? And
22:29
that's...pop Sarah Palin? Because
22:32
they thought that the voters
22:34
will vote for anybody with a vagina.
22:36
Because that's how they
22:38
came... So now that
22:41
they got rid of Nikki
22:43
Haley but some women still
22:45
don't like this fucking criminal
22:47
pig that they're trying to run.
22:51
They say, well, Republicans love
22:53
vapid, droning, fake women talking
22:55
about how scared they are
22:57
of some fucking menace from
22:59
their various
23:02
catalog of imaginary menaces.
23:07
And she's in her kitchen doing
23:09
a fucking promo like it's
23:11
a badly scripted WWE
23:14
girls promo with fucking Jackie
23:16
Redmond or whatever. It
23:20
was an audition for acting class, wasn't it?
23:22
It was the fake talking. It was just,
23:24
yes, I'm like other moms just
23:27
here to talk to you. It
23:29
was just no one talks like
23:31
this. It was her trying to be her version
23:34
of Barbara Billingsley. It actually
23:36
looked more like Ginger Grant on Gilligan's Island
23:38
when they got to put on a play.
23:41
And she was trying to audition
23:43
for Harold Hecuba. The
23:46
fuck is going on with these people?
23:50
But they can't say it, so again,
23:52
and we will move on. The
23:55
contrast is allegedly that Trump is
23:57
a dynamic, forceful leader that will...
24:00
do the right thing, then Joe
24:02
Biden is sleepy and senile, and Biden
24:04
came out there and cut a promo
24:06
and had a grip on everything. Whether
24:08
you like his pronunciation or not, fuck
24:10
you. The world is at
24:12
stake here. And
24:15
he showed that, look, folks,
24:18
these are the things we need to do and
24:20
look at what's going on over here. Some in
24:22
our chamber would like to have you go back
24:24
to whatever the fuck on whatever the fuck, and
24:26
we don't want to do that. This is America.
24:30
And he was clearly in
24:34
charge of the situation. So I don't
24:37
know what bizarro world these people
24:39
live in, but we
24:41
don't want this criminal,
24:45
lying, psychopathic,
24:47
obnoxious, ignorant, incurious
24:50
asshole to be
24:53
in charge of our destiny
24:55
again, just so he can avoid prison
24:57
where he belongs. Cause that's the reason
25:00
he's running. And then
25:02
old age will take its course while he's in
25:04
office and they'll never be able to put the
25:06
pig away. Just
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because he wants to stay out of jail
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is no reason to put the world at
25:12
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25:57
Huh. Are
25:59
you ready? for the, uh, the legal
26:01
update, Brian, we
26:04
got to do the legal update for
26:06
AEW because they got, they got things
26:08
going on and they're going to be
26:10
in all sorts of courts across the
26:13
country, like another disgraced ex-politician. Um,
26:17
I, I'm not
26:20
sure what legal advice are they
26:22
getting over there? It wouldn't, when
26:25
Tony now, who's he talking to now?
26:27
When, when something comes up that he
26:30
may be legally involved in or at risk
26:32
for, or just curious about who the heck
26:34
is he speaking to now? Well,
26:37
of course, mega-Pereek was head of AEW
26:39
legal, but now she's just working for
26:42
the Jaguar, she has no involvement whatsoever
26:44
with anything to do with AEW whatsoever,
26:46
but in the same
26:48
office, that's what we're told. Right. But
26:51
in the same offices, I believe, or
26:53
nearby, or AEWs head
26:55
of legal, Chris. Pounds down the hall. Chris
26:57
Peck is the head of their legal department. Chris Peck. Cause
27:01
you know, I was going to offer
27:03
my services because I feel as a
27:05
qualified small town bird lawyer, I might
27:08
be a little bit more qualified than
27:10
whoever the fuck is giving Tony his
27:13
legal advice lately. Have
27:15
you heard about the, uh, the, the
27:18
slideshow, the graphic that they put up on
27:20
the screen at some of their shows now,
27:22
I don't know how long they've been doing
27:24
this potentially they may
27:27
have been doing it a while, but it, um,
27:30
it was brought to my attention via
27:32
the Twitter machine after
27:34
the pay-per-view where they decided they would
27:36
just shut apparently the
27:38
glass that Darby went through and the
27:40
glass they were using was real glass.
27:43
It wasn't the sugar glass because honestly,
27:45
that sugar glass breaks into almost
27:48
powder and you can see that there was,
27:50
there was bigger pieces. There was chunks, right?
27:54
But several people have written in that
27:56
work either with glass companies or.
28:00
windshield replant, they're in the glass
28:02
industry. And they
28:04
say it's tempered glass because the, like
28:07
just a regular old piece of glass, like you
28:09
might've had in a storm window back in the
28:11
old days, right? That
28:14
will break and use, that's where
28:16
you get the big shards, right?
28:18
The irregularly shaped jagged pieces, right?
28:20
That's regular glass. But
28:23
the tempered glass, it will shatter
28:25
like we saw with Darby and Sting's
28:27
ass and everything else that went through
28:30
the glass. It'll shatter,
28:32
but it'll be in those
28:34
rounder pieces and it's thicker. So
28:36
it can't really, it'll just slice you
28:38
up, but it doesn't like stab impale you,
28:40
you see what I'm saying, Brian? I
28:43
do. Did I, did I articulate
28:45
that properly for the folks? I think so.
28:47
For the laymen who don't know too much
28:49
about glass being used as props. Okay.
28:52
So what they were doing then was
28:54
when they leaned that, that
28:57
piece of glass up in the corner
28:59
and they threw Sting upside down, ass
29:01
first through it. And it shattered that
29:04
tempered glass. All those pieces that flew
29:06
into the crowd was real tempered glass.
29:10
And we saw the videos from people's
29:13
phones that they were saying
29:15
the crowd, the girl or the woman, I
29:17
don't know, a female person
29:21
that it turned like covered up, oh shit.
29:23
And then the people were ducking on the
29:25
other side when they did that. Well,
29:28
they have a statement
29:30
that people took a picture of and tweeted out
29:32
that as I said, either they've been putting this
29:35
up or they started putting it up. After this
29:38
brew, ha ha. Do you want
29:40
to know why I got it right here? Can I read
29:42
it to you? Here, please read it to me. But also
29:44
I think they have done this for a while. Cause I
29:46
think we've seen this image and talked about it well, a
29:49
while back. Okay. So
29:51
then, then this, this is what they,
29:53
this is their disclaimer forever. This is
29:56
why they can get away with barbed
29:58
wire and broken tempered glass. flying
30:00
willy-nilly about the arena and
30:03
thumbtacks being spread and blood
30:05
being sprayed into the
30:07
crowd when they're doing the dives and the
30:09
furniture and the potential chairs
30:12
being flung and all
30:14
the things that they love to do, it's all covered
30:17
folks. It's your own fault
30:19
if you don't set the DVR and
30:22
if you don't duck out of
30:24
the way because they say caution, if
30:27
you have a seat on the floor,
30:29
you are at risk of
30:32
being struck by persons, objects,
30:34
barricades, and other items. Please
30:37
be aware of the action as you
30:39
are watching and move out of the
30:41
way if someone or something is coming
30:43
your way. By staying
30:45
in this area, which I
30:47
remind you, in an
30:49
NBA-sized arena is the
30:52
floor, by
30:54
staying in this area, you
30:57
assume all risks of injury to yourself
30:59
and to your property. So
31:01
the people that buy the most
31:04
expensive tickets are the ones most at risk.
31:06
But now, let
31:09
me ask you this, Brian, first of all, let's just
31:11
take this as if this would stand up in you.
31:13
Exactly. How would that stand up? I'm using a pizza
31:15
cutter and a ring of flies out of my hand
31:17
and lands in your head. I'm
31:19
gonna give you an example here. I'm gonna
31:22
give you an example here. Now, you
31:25
may not be old enough, but Gallagher,
31:27
the comedian. Gallagher. Oh yeah, I'm a
31:29
big fan of the wackiness of the
31:32
man behind Gallagher. Well,
31:34
there you go. Well, for those of
31:36
you who are young or ill-informed, Gallagher
31:38
was the prop comic that
31:40
was hotter than a Chinese pistol, as
31:42
Dream Machine would say, back in
31:45
the 90s or whatever it was. Oh no no
31:47
no no no. 80s? Early 80s. Early
31:50
throughout the 80s. Well, god damn it.
31:53
Time flies now that mine's almost done.
31:56
But anyway, so
31:58
whatever era it was
32:00
the eighties Gallagher he's a prop comic.
32:03
And he brings out you know
32:06
hilarious props and makes jokes about him
32:08
in another thing that he does is
32:10
he takes any he takes a sledgehammer
32:12
to various. Pieces of
32:14
fruit sledge a man or sledge
32:16
a medic as a parody
32:19
on the the veg a medic
32:21
and vegetable slicer tv commercial
32:23
sledge o matic and it became
32:26
from fruit and then it went
32:28
to just different objects. But
32:30
with a comedic effect as he's hitting
32:33
in the watermelon boy that was great
32:35
right. End the first
32:37
three or four rows when he would do his
32:39
show live in a theater would be the like
32:42
the Gallagher splash zone. End
32:44
a woody people would bring poncho's and they
32:46
would even hand out rain slickers or whatever
32:48
you didn't get the watermelon and everybody had
32:50
a. Fun time with adding you
32:52
kind of expected that right. End
32:55
so i think that it would have been kind
32:57
of difficult. For anybody and
32:59
say row number three to to
33:03
sue because all a piece of
33:05
watermelon ryan coming and
33:07
hit my glasses and it stabbed me in the
33:09
corner of the eye and now i can't see.
33:13
That's a kind of a stretch right.
33:16
But what about if is he
33:18
swinging the sledgehammer brian. The
33:21
fucking head of the goddamn sledgehammer
33:23
comes off and it hit some
33:25
fucking woman from cleveland in
33:27
the fucking right temple as she's talking to
33:29
her brother in law. And
33:32
she suffers permanent fucking brain
33:34
damage where she is goddamn
33:36
complete vegetable and it's crossed
33:38
her wires to the point that she shoving pot
33:40
roast up her ass and shit not her pussy.
33:43
What list of weird turn are you there
33:45
which they're also somewhere there there would be.
33:50
Compability on
33:53
the part of certainly would Gallagher
33:55
that's right because that is
33:57
can't even be no. Oh,
34:01
you should have checked that goddamn sledgehammer.
34:03
You're swinging something. It's fucking heavy around
34:05
the goddamn thing. The thing flies off
34:08
the same thing with the glass. It'll
34:10
put somebody's eye out. Yeah, Gallagher never did
34:12
that. Hey, now I'm going to break this
34:15
vase. Right? Yes. Now
34:17
I'm going to take a sledgehammer and just bash
34:19
a pane of glass and it'll spray 10, 20,
34:23
30 feet, wherever the fuck it goes. We don't
34:25
know. But
34:28
no, no, there is
34:30
no... I believe me. I
34:32
have been sued in this environment
34:35
and I know how lawyers frame
34:37
things and how depositions
34:39
go and how people are
34:42
required to testify. And
34:45
I was actually the victim of a
34:47
small judgment because
34:49
the guy that I
34:51
whacked over the head was on the other
34:54
side of the protective
34:57
barrier, which at the time was
35:00
a goddamn clothesline between two poles.
35:03
And the guy walked into the rope and
35:05
continued walking because it was so loose and
35:07
came right up to the ringside and fucking
35:10
grabbed me. But because he
35:12
was on the other side of the rope, even
35:14
though he had violated the spirit of the space
35:16
by like six feet. So
35:19
it's garbage shit like this.
35:22
If you get in a real courtroom, if any
35:24
of these sycophantic
35:27
fucking fans one of these days are
35:29
not impressed
35:32
and or turned on
35:34
in some fashion by being part of
35:36
the show, by being injured or stabbed
35:38
or impaled or whatever,
35:40
it actually decides to sue, you
35:43
go into court with shit like this, they're going to
35:45
fucking laugh at you. No.
35:48
By taking a seat in
35:52
the second row of a boxing match, you
35:55
don't take risk for the boxer to fall
35:57
out of the goddamn ring and fall
36:00
in your lap, if you're two
36:02
rows back and the spectator stands
36:05
for the NBA, if the fucking
36:07
player dives over and breaks
36:09
your kid's leg, can
36:12
you still not sue? No.
36:15
None of this makes sense. And
36:18
it's about also what you could reasonably expect.
36:20
It's one thing you were sitting in the
36:22
front row and a wrestler landed on your
36:25
lap because they were thrown over the barricade.
36:27
What's more reasonable than expecting a bunch of glass
36:29
to end up in your face? Well,
36:31
and that is true and that is a
36:33
point and that's a term in the legal
36:36
industry, a mitigating factor. But I
36:39
guarantee you that if you get
36:41
a good attorney and I've heard
36:44
again the testimonies take place, so
36:49
you mean to tell me that in this
36:52
athletic entertainment
36:54
that you people do where
36:56
you cooperate with each other
36:58
and you work with each
37:00
other to present the simulation
37:03
of combat and conflict
37:06
that you deliberately made
37:09
the choice to go
37:11
along with the
37:13
gentleman that was pretending to
37:16
throw you over the railing
37:18
and leaped over
37:20
it so that you could land
37:22
on my client's son's leg, breaking
37:25
it and ruining his hopes of
37:27
ever becoming a fucking
37:29
sinner in the NBA even though he's
37:32
fucking only seven years old.
37:35
That's right. My boss will pay for it. There
37:38
you go. It's
37:40
no. Then you would have to
37:43
prove that it was complete. The wrestlers would
37:45
have to prove it was complete accident. And
37:47
we'd know I wasn't cooperating. I fell over
37:49
it when we were executing our move. Oh,
37:52
then you executed a
37:54
move that you can't perform professionally
37:57
over the audience so that they would
37:59
be put at risk. You can't win
38:01
that shit. Just telling you.
38:05
Fuck. Because
38:07
they really
38:09
wanted to sue us back in the days
38:11
because they were mad at us anyway and
38:13
they'd usually lost a fight. It's
38:16
not like we were fucking throwing
38:18
goddamn sharp implements at high rates
38:20
of speed out into the crowd.
38:22
We were just protecting ourselves and
38:25
there was constant lawsuits because they
38:28
were of a different temperament and
38:31
didn't consider it
38:33
a fucking badge of honor on TV
38:35
that so and so landed in my
38:37
lap but let somebody get really damaged
38:39
or really hurt or as what part
38:42
two of our legal update will
38:45
illustrate, let them start
38:47
realizing Tony spends a lot of money
38:49
for a lot of things he doesn't really need to spend
38:51
money for and you
38:53
will start getting some suits filed that
38:56
have varying degrees of merit depending on
38:58
the honesty and integrity of the people
39:00
involved. But
39:02
should we talk about part two or do
39:05
you have any other comments about how can
39:07
they expect if they throw battery acid out
39:09
into the crowd and it blinds somebody that
39:11
that's their fault? That's the fee you should
39:13
have ducked. Yeah,
39:16
it wouldn't hold up anywhere. It's
39:18
almost like the bare minimum you could
39:20
do to try to cover your ass.
39:23
What you could really do is just not do the stupid
39:25
shit. Yeah, you see. Especially anywhere
39:27
near fans. Well, remember the
39:30
ECW audience would have taken, I
39:32
think, battery acid in the eyes.
39:35
If you told them ahead of time, hey, it's going to be
39:37
part of a big spot, we're going to play it over and
39:39
over on the open. But the
39:41
fire out in the crowd was too much for them
39:43
when everything went south in the dark
39:46
and they had the chaos. Didn't they
39:48
get lawsuits over that or at least
39:50
people highly perturbed?
39:52
I don't
39:55
remember for sure. And the buildings. Here's
39:58
another. If i
40:00
am the, the
40:02
man that whatever the manager or whatever
40:04
the high ranking official is whatever building
40:07
whatever their title is these days with
40:09
the building man if i'm the building
40:11
manager. And i
40:13
hear okay i've got a. 15,000
40:16
feet building and this company wrestling
40:18
promotion just came in and rented
40:21
it for a tv shoot and
40:23
they put thirty two or thirty
40:25
five hundred people in it. And
40:28
they got damn a table
40:31
flies over the railing crashes
40:33
and it hits some fucking girl in
40:35
the back of the head and scares
40:37
her fucking boyfriend
40:40
or whatever you used to hear these
40:42
complaints all the time. About
40:45
you know just minor shit right in the in
40:47
the old days of wrestling again because there was
40:49
so many people in the buildings and there was
40:51
so many shows. Yeah pam watson just died. What
40:55
does that have to do with a fucking thing i
40:57
was here with the thing fell on the fans in
40:59
oxville oh. Good
41:02
lord yes they almost
41:04
knocked the they knocked the lighting grid
41:06
over in oxville or the lighting tree
41:08
rather over in noxville it had almost
41:11
hit the people and we could have
41:13
been sued under the fucking courthouse okay
41:15
yeah but nevertheless. The
41:17
stuff that they're doing now if
41:19
i was a building manager i would have a
41:22
problem if my employees came to me and said
41:24
we got a complaint from this lady in the
41:26
second row because she got sprayed with glass or
41:28
a table leg flew up or the god whatever
41:30
the fuck or they're bleeding on people in the.
41:33
In the you know ringside section.
41:37
That the building does not need a
41:39
w wrestling to exist
41:41
and to prosper especially
41:44
when they're drawing crowds like that
41:46
and because. Yes they may
41:48
get full rent or whatever rents been agreed
41:50
to based on whatever part of the building
41:53
that they're using but the buildings do an
41:55
absolute dick on parking and concessions
41:57
and they did there and
41:59
they. can't use all of their usual vendors
42:02
and security people and
42:05
whatever the fuck. So because
42:07
it's a cut down production. So
42:10
they don't need that. Why do they want
42:12
complaints from the fucking people that are there?
42:14
If it wasn't that these most of these
42:16
people are drinking the fucking Kool-Aid and one
42:19
of these days they're going to hit somebody
42:21
in the right way that is
42:23
just there because some friends gave them
42:25
some tickets and they don't have any emotional attachment
42:28
to whether Tony Khan has a
42:30
successful wrestling promotion or not. And
42:33
they say, oh, we can make some money on
42:35
this. A couple of these lawsuits in WWE as
42:37
I'm going to kind of ask for exclusivity in
42:39
more buildings. You
42:41
don't want that other company here. They do all sorts of
42:44
stuff that has nothing to do with us. We're something different.
42:46
Well, but then see now that's
42:49
double stupid because as we know
42:51
the new ownership of WWE, they're
42:53
not as wrapped up as Vince
42:55
was in exclusivity on everything, exclusivity
42:57
on television, on a network,
43:00
exclusivity with a building. They
43:03
come from the real business world. They're not
43:05
as, you know,
43:07
and they don't want another lawsuit
43:09
via monopoly. They know they're blowing
43:11
everybody else away. So
43:13
they're not going to fucking be penny-anny like
43:16
that or vindictive or whatever. So
43:18
now Tony's got a chance to not have... Yeah,
43:21
they will. They will. Some will
43:23
at least out in the open and
43:25
over small shit, over small
43:27
shit at this point. And
43:30
that's the thing. Tony could take advantage of
43:32
that rather than having Vince wanting to bite
43:34
his fucking carotid artery out. And
43:37
they're doing shit to piss off buildings. And
43:41
again, you can get away with more if
43:44
the building is full and you turn people
43:46
away and all of
43:48
the building's employees are working and all
43:50
their vendors are sending extra fucking people
43:52
to handle the staffing. Why,
43:55
that's lovely. But for this piss hole
43:58
in a snowbank, don't... spray
44:00
the people with fucking glass in my building
44:02
because they'll be named in the suit. The
44:05
building will then, or their
44:07
legal representative, will then
44:09
be called into this to at
44:11
least give depositions and ask why,
44:14
what levels of security
44:16
or what measures did
44:18
you take as an arena
44:20
to protect the people that are
44:22
patronizing your building, sir? We put
44:24
up a graphic on the screen,
44:28
said if it's coming duck, you
44:30
know beyond the graphic though and just to look at it from
44:32
a different angle quickly in terms of the buildings, what
44:35
if something had happened to Darby? You
44:37
know, you can usually claim, look there was an
44:39
accident we don't know what happened, he was supposed
44:42
to land on this crash pad or
44:44
the table was supposed to break his fall. What
44:47
was supposed to break his fall? The glass?
44:49
The fucking floor was supposed to
44:51
break his fall and son of a bitch when you
44:53
know who won the pony? It did. If something had
44:55
happened, how are you going to explain that? How
44:57
do you explain your way around that if there was
45:00
anything that went wrong? Thank God it didn't and I
45:02
like Darby unlike some people here but
45:04
if anything had gone wrong... I did
45:06
till then. There was nothing to break his fall. There's
45:08
an argument for anything else. We thought the rest of it would
45:11
catch him. The table was supposed to catch him. There
45:13
was nothing. It was just the floor. But
45:16
okay and while we're on the subject here,
45:18
let's bring this up because he's been quoted
45:21
since they said I wanted to make Sting's
45:23
retirement to, give
45:26
it the respect it deserves, make it as memorable
45:28
as it ought to have been. Everything about Sting's
45:30
retirement, it was all about Sting's last match. Why
45:32
did you steal all the fucking attention? Because
45:35
all the people remember is your dumbass
45:38
being thrown off the thing through glass,
45:40
through chairs onto the concrete floor. Now
45:42
here's another thing and that
45:45
Tony Khan allowed apparently in his company
45:48
and that everybody else either went along with or was forced
45:50
to, they had a plan
45:52
B just in case Darby
45:54
doesn't get it because remember Darby came
45:56
back in to finish. Right.
45:58
Just in case... Darby doesn't get
46:01
up with their plan B. They
46:03
were going to do something. They
46:05
actually went into Sting's
46:07
retirement match with
46:10
a plan B for what they
46:12
were going to do in the
46:14
finish. If his partner took a
46:16
bump that he was going to take on
46:18
fucking purpose and could not continue. That's
46:22
how stupid they are. I
46:24
have never in 40, whatever
46:26
fucking years in
46:28
the wrestling business, gone into a
46:32
finish having logically
46:35
in my mind, having to have a
46:37
plan B in case somebody gets so
46:39
hurt in what we have called so
46:41
far that they ain't there at the
46:43
end. Here's another thing
46:45
while I'm on the subject. You've
46:49
made, can you imagine? Okay.
46:52
If Darby doesn't care, then I find it
46:54
hard to work up a lot of sympathy.
46:56
You know me, I'm a warm hearted fella,
46:58
right? I love the kids and I love
47:00
the dogs. People,
47:03
exalts, able-bodied, not so
47:06
much, but for your hated kids. Well,
47:08
I love that. I love the handicap kids if
47:10
they're, if they're okay. Well,
47:14
you know, honestly, no, that's kind of the truth. That's
47:17
actually kind of the truth. But I feel
47:19
like some
47:21
people got short changed and they should be helped out. But
47:26
anyway, it's Sting's
47:28
retirement in Greensboro, North Carolina.
47:30
And it's there's 16,000
47:32
people in the Greensboro Coliseum, which
47:35
is the biggest, you
47:37
know, arena in the goddamn city. And it
47:40
was a high profile thing. Can
47:43
you imagine the headline the
47:45
next day? That Sting retirement
47:48
show pro wrestler is fill in
47:50
the blank, paralyzed, hospitalized,
47:55
neutralized, whatever lies. What?
48:00
would have been the newspapers, the
48:02
fucking TV news. Obviously,
48:04
in the wrestling industry,
48:07
yes, it would have been everywhere but it would have
48:09
been in the news for everybody to see
48:11
around that part of the country. And
48:14
at least, if not, and then nationally, it would
48:16
have got picked up on. And that's
48:18
what Sting's retirement match
48:21
would have been remembered for. And
48:24
people, and then they played the clip of
48:26
the bump and everybody in the country that
48:28
currently is not watching wrestling, which is a
48:31
lot more than there
48:33
are watching wrestling, would have said,
48:35
well, is that what those dumb,
48:37
stupid, motherfucking wrestlers are doing now?
48:40
No wonder I don't watch that shit anymore. Sting
48:46
was teaming up with some guy, Gigi Allen
48:48
or Bobby Crash? That must
48:50
have been Sting's grandson there.
48:52
He's a little like a 12 or
48:54
14 year old kid, dressed
48:56
up with his face painted like Sting. Wasn't
48:59
that cute? Till they fucking killed him. Well,
49:03
and I like Darby, but you know, now
49:06
that you've viewed him with Jack Perry, because Jack
49:08
Perry had issues with going through glass. The
49:10
Glass Doctor will fix your
49:18
pains. That's
49:20
a goddamn actual company. Anyway,
49:24
so now the other part of our AEW
49:28
legal update is,
49:31
and I want to give
49:33
a disclaimer at the top of the program, not
49:36
only do
49:38
Brian and I not have any
49:40
idea what actually happened between
49:42
B.J. Whitmer and the young lady that
49:45
was accusing him of the domestic violence,
49:48
we do not know her, I don't know her name, so I'm
49:50
not just trying to slough her off. But
49:54
also, we're not even trying to adjudicate that.
49:56
We are not attempting to give any guilt
49:58
or innocence to the young lady. of
50:01
either side of either party or claim
50:03
any knowledge of what actually occurred. And
50:07
it's not our business. But
50:10
there is one question
50:13
about this whole thing that
50:15
has come to light in the public
50:18
eye that we need to ask and
50:20
address that has nothing to do, I
50:23
would think particularly and that's the point
50:26
with any of the other actions of any
50:28
of the other people involved in this matter. BJ
50:32
Whitmer went to court. He was a
50:34
wrestler for many years then as of
50:36
late. He had
50:38
been working as a producer, agent, whatever
50:40
they call him these days for AW.
50:42
Since the beginning I think. Since the
50:44
beginning. Well, maybe we don't know for
50:47
sure, but since early on he had
50:49
been with Ring of Honor. Quite
50:52
a while back. But
50:54
the point is he was involved in
50:56
a domestic violence incident. He lives up
50:58
in Northern Kentucky. That's why everybody was
51:00
saying Kentucky. They were thinking
51:02
it was here in Northern Kentucky
51:05
and that district is around Cincinnati. Oh,
51:07
wow. So it's their fault. It's their
51:09
problem. Involved in domestic
51:11
violence, went to court. There was some
51:14
verdict given which I don't have the notes
51:17
on. I
51:19
believe you have some papers in front of you, but
51:21
I don't know what the specific plea
51:23
and deal and verdict and all that
51:26
stuff was. But
51:28
there was something that came to light in
51:30
the process of that
51:33
verdict and the paperwork and everything coming
51:35
out in public. And again, just
51:38
as mere small town bird
51:40
lawyers, Brian,
51:43
it basically came out that
51:47
I guess pretty quickly after, certainly it didn't
51:49
take as long for this to happen as
51:51
it did for this matter to wind its
51:53
way through the legal system. But
51:56
pretty quickly after this incident,
52:00
young lady that was
52:02
accusing BJ Whitmer of
52:04
the situation, AEW got
52:06
in contact with her in some
52:08
fashion or other or she got
52:10
in contact with them and they
52:14
gave her payments a
52:16
totaling, I believe the
52:18
figure thrown around was $40,000 and had her sign an
52:20
NDA. And
52:28
my question is, for what?
52:34
How was AEW involved in
52:36
this as an entity? And
52:39
I was trying to draw the comparison earlier, I
52:42
don't know how to explain it otherwise than if
52:45
a telephone repairman
52:48
who works for the phone
52:50
company gets involved
52:52
in a domestic incident is arrested, goes
52:55
to jail. Yes,
52:58
they should be found out,
53:00
prosecuted, full extent of the law,
53:02
punished, whatever the fuck, but how
53:04
is the phone company responsible? What
53:06
responsibility or what reason
53:09
do they have to get involved
53:11
and to give the
53:13
victim if they want to even give the
53:15
victim, oh, we feel bad
53:18
that something happened to you. So
53:21
here's some money to help you with your various
53:23
issues, but then why sign an
53:26
NDA? Because that would
53:28
just be a charitable thing to
53:30
do rather than expecting silence for
53:32
it based on presumption
53:34
of guilt of the company which
53:37
they didn't have anything to do with it. So
53:40
why are they just handing this fucking money out is
53:42
my question. We don't know.
53:45
And again, you just kind of said all the things that are
53:47
in the document here. But if we go to it and you
53:49
go to why under Section
53:51
3, this is from the sentencing
53:53
memo, Considerations for Commonwealth's Offer of
53:55
a Plea of Guilty, because they
53:57
gave them Alfred Plea. And
54:00
that's, if you know the case of
54:02
the West Memphis Three, they
54:04
eventually got Alfred please. They
54:06
maintain their innocence, but they
54:08
say they're guilty because
54:10
there's a chance that the prosecutor
54:13
could win. Well, actually,
54:15
no, I've even got a better one.
54:18
I think I may have put one of these in in the past.
54:22
You maintain your innocence,
54:25
but you recognize or
54:27
acknowledge that the
54:30
verdict would probably be against
54:32
you or that they
54:34
have enough, there is enough evidence to
54:37
receive a verdict against you or something like
54:39
that. That's technically the way
54:41
that they phrase it. Well, in
54:43
this section here, during the pendency
54:45
of this case, the Commonwealth was
54:47
provided with a significant amount of
54:49
reciprocal discovery. Due
54:52
to this discovery and other
54:54
events, the Commonwealth
54:56
was required to reevaluate its position
54:59
on an appropriate resolution. The
55:02
most significant information was
55:04
that Ms. Hawn received a cash settlement and
55:07
signed a nondisclosure agreement with AEW,
55:10
the defendant's employer. The
55:13
Commonwealth was aware that Ms.
55:15
Hawn had been in contact with
55:17
AEW shortly after the incident. However,
55:19
the extent was unknown. Defense
55:23
Council first provided the Commonwealth a confirmation
55:26
that Ms. Hawn had been given financial assistance
55:29
and a settlement from AEW. The
55:32
Commonwealth was required to let the defense
55:34
know that they were unaware of any such
55:37
agreement. AEW reached
55:39
out to Ms. Hawn to notify
55:41
her they had been contacted by the
55:43
Defense Council. Ms. Hawn
55:45
then reached out to the Commonwealth to explain the timeline
55:48
of events leading to that
55:50
settlement. Pursuant to
55:52
the rules of discovery, the Commonwealth
55:54
disclosed a summary of Ms. Hawn's statement
55:56
to Defense Council, including that Ms.
55:58
Hawn had received a proximal $20,000
56:00
from AEW. Defense
56:04
counsel provided further reciprocal
56:06
discovery outlining payments made
56:08
to Ms. Hahn by AEW
56:12
beginning on June 16, 2023 that totaled in excess of $40,000. Ms.
56:19
Hahn also provided email communications between
56:21
AEW and herself. The
56:24
Commonwealth anticipates that Ms. Hahn would testify
56:26
at trial that her emails
56:29
to AEW were meant to be informational and
56:31
she had no intention of seeking compensation.
56:35
Now, if she reached out to AEW, I will put money
56:37
on this. She was going
56:39
directly to Mega Perique. This
56:41
reeks of Mega Perique.
56:44
I did not intend for that to
56:46
rhyme, but it fucking rhymed. I did
56:48
not intend that this reeks of Mega
56:50
Perique. She got too involved in something.
56:53
All of a sudden they're making payoffs
56:55
and having an NDA. What's the NDA
56:57
for? What did the company do? Nothing.
57:00
That's the point. We are actually maintaining
57:03
AEW and Tony Khan's innocence. They're paying
57:05
people for shit they had nothing to
57:07
do with. We will pay
57:09
you, but you have to sign this and shut
57:12
up about it. That's what that is. That's the
57:14
thing. It's not like, you know, because the defenders
57:16
out there, the people who
57:18
are drinking the Tony Kade, the
57:21
Tony-Aid instead of
57:24
the Kool-Aid, they're going to say,
57:26
well, he was trying to be nice to this woman
57:28
that was abused
57:31
in some fashion. Well,
57:33
then why have I sat in non-disclosure? Don't
57:36
tell anybody about it. I don't want any
57:38
publicity. I'm a nice guy. But no, it
57:40
has to come up in a goddamn deposition
57:43
under oath. That's
57:46
what I'm saying. There was no responsibility
57:50
here on the part of a company.
57:52
Dahmer worked for
57:55
a candy factory, right? Did
57:58
they sue the candy factory? I
58:02
don't understand. He's just giving people money.
58:05
But he's wanting them
58:07
to hush up about what? Yeah.
58:10
What was the woman going to say? That
58:12
working for AEW had driven my spouse
58:16
into a blind rage when he
58:18
was beating me? What the
58:20
fuck? Here's the other question, and I have
58:22
to dive through this further. Not everything obviously
58:24
is in the sentencing memo. But
58:27
when did they pay her? Did they pay her as
58:29
soon as BJ Whitmer was arrested? Was
58:32
it just that simple? He did this to... Was
58:34
it before that? I don't know the timeline of events
58:36
of when things were alleged
58:38
to have happened, not taking any sides here. I
58:41
think it's despicable to beat up your wife or
58:43
whatever the fuck is alleged. Not taking any sides.
58:46
But when was the
58:49
communication between her and
58:51
AEW, and I'm going to
58:53
presume once again the AEW legal department, who
58:55
would be the one signing off on all this, when
58:58
was that communication and when were the payments?
59:01
Because it's one for $20,000, then it says $40,000. So
59:05
when was this money disbursed?
59:09
Because obviously BJ Whitmer was not convicted of
59:11
anything. This Alfred plea is
59:13
just recent. This just happened. Yeah, this was
59:15
last week. And
59:17
also, the way that
59:19
they phrased it may have slipped
59:22
by some people, but the
59:24
document there said that the
59:27
young woman said that her email was
59:30
just meant to be informational. In
59:33
other words, she wasn't like, give me money, or I'm
59:36
going to fucking do this, that, or the other thing. It
59:38
was like, here, I want to tell you what this asshole
59:40
is doing. Your employee did this to me. I want you
59:43
to know. That's what it sounds like. Yes.
59:47
And is it an oh shit? Well, give
59:49
her some money and have her sign an NDA.
59:51
Don't have her talk bad about I don't know
59:54
what. Or
59:56
you know, but again.
1:00:00
It's awfully easy to get Tony
1:00:02
scared for his life, isn't it?
1:00:06
Wow. And
1:00:08
again, they terminated B.J. Whitmer right away.
1:00:12
And then, again, I need the timeline of
1:00:14
when everything happened. I think
1:00:16
they arrested him pretty quickly after
1:00:18
the incident happened, if I do recall. You
1:00:21
know, I didn't know that particular
1:00:23
factoid was going to need to be applied
1:00:26
to this. But I
1:00:28
think they arrested him pretty quickly and
1:00:30
they fired him pretty quickly. What
1:00:34
the fuck is Mega Perique doing? Eh, whatever. Now,
1:00:37
you can only cast a spray at just reeks of
1:00:39
Perique. It doesn't mean that it was... It's like that
1:00:41
Linda McMahon shit with the fucking ring boys back in
1:00:43
the day. Like, oh, we really do like you and
1:00:45
we're going to actually bring you back and give you
1:00:48
a great job. Here's a bunch of money. Just sign
1:00:50
this. Not
1:00:52
to compare the two things, but it's just... Linda's
1:00:54
in Florida. She had nothing to do with
1:00:57
this. Do not compare those things. Mega's in
1:00:59
Florida. Jacksonville, Florida. To be specific. Well, maybe
1:01:01
Linda is teaching a class that Mega
1:01:04
has gone to in career advancement and
1:01:06
corporate policy. Another
1:01:08
member of the winning team over at AEWG's. And you
1:01:10
hear from fans every now and then, you guys are
1:01:12
awful. You're mean to her because she's a woman. No.
1:01:16
No. We're mean to her
1:01:18
because she's mediocre at her job.
1:01:20
You guys alluded to the fact that she may
1:01:22
have had relations with wrestlers. We didn't allude
1:01:24
to anything. We said she had relations with
1:01:26
wrestlers. She's going to sue.
1:01:28
No, she's not. Really.
1:01:31
At some point you guys got to realize we tell the truth. Some
1:01:34
of you wake up to it. But unfortunately it's about
1:01:36
your favorite company you pretend like we're doing something wrong
1:01:38
by telling the truth. You're
1:01:40
ruining my fantasies and my dreams. Wake
1:01:43
up. Wait a minute.
1:01:45
I've heard that before. In my sleep. Are
1:01:48
you... are you in my room? In
1:01:52
my head, Brian? Ugh.
1:01:56
Eh. Eh. Eh. You
1:01:58
like one of those inner sanctum mysteries. You
1:02:01
need to be the face in
1:02:03
the fucking crystal ball. It's
1:02:06
no another origin. I would like the
1:02:08
mystery. Yes. Well,
1:02:10
you know, the moral to the story
1:02:12
is basically, as we've just illustrated over
1:02:14
the last little while here, if
1:02:17
you have any minor association
1:02:21
or interaction with AEW or
1:02:24
Tony Khan and something happens
1:02:26
that could potentially reflect bad on him or he
1:02:29
thinks it could, he will give you money
1:02:32
no matter how closely affiliated that
1:02:34
your instance is or your incident
1:02:36
is to anything that
1:02:38
he's actually responsible for. He
1:02:41
will give you money. Hey, let's see what happens now. You
1:02:43
know, they just fired Kevin Kelly. I
1:02:46
just read about on the Internet. They fired
1:02:48
nobody. They fired – you could do anything
1:02:50
in that company. They'll send
1:02:52
you home and pay you. They fired CM
1:02:54
Punk. They fired Jimmy Havoc.
1:02:58
They fired Kevin Kelly. Unless Kevin
1:03:00
Kelly was walking around with his dick out, yelling,
1:03:02
pussy, pussy, they
1:03:06
better have a damn good reason for firing him and there's going
1:03:08
to be the next payoff. I would –
1:03:10
knowing Kevin, as I do,
1:03:12
I would think that he wasn't yelling pussy,
1:03:15
pussy, and I
1:03:18
don't believe he'd have had his dick out. And
1:03:20
even then you couldn't even really have
1:03:22
told because he's, you know, not
1:03:25
that big. He could have probably hidden
1:03:27
it in his – in the shirt – with
1:03:30
his shirt untucked. But
1:03:32
anyway, we will –
1:03:35
we're going to keep up on the
1:03:37
TNA legal updates. TNA? Or
1:03:39
TNA – Jesus Christ. It seems like that's what
1:03:41
it seems like. Well,
1:03:44
we're going to keep up with the AEW, NDAs,
1:03:46
and legal updates. Good
1:03:51
Lord. But that's the
1:03:53
point, Brian, is if
1:03:55
you have – if you go to a show now and you
1:03:58
have any kind of compulsion, against AEW or
1:04:00
Tony Khan, you could pretty much go home
1:04:02
and sleep like a baby. Because
1:04:05
you're gonna be farting through
1:04:07
silk pretty soon, you're gonna be a
1:04:09
millionaire, you're gonna be rolling
1:04:11
in dough because he'll pay you whatever
1:04:14
it takes for you to sign that
1:04:16
NDA, so sleep like a baby people.
1:04:19
But you know what Brian, if
1:04:22
you can't figure out a way to lodge
1:04:24
any kind of frivolous complaint about AEW and
1:04:26
Tony Khan to get those millions of dollars
1:04:28
to sleep like a baby, you're
1:04:31
gonna have to do it the old-fashioned way. You're
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told. We don't know anything about the ducks.
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Now you're talking about ducks. You don't know
1:06:11
anything about where they get their stuff. They're
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all American ducks. You're
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not sending your money to fucking foreign menace
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15-year manufacturer's warranties,
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depending on the model that you get, most of
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you are not going to live that long, so
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you won't have dick to complain about. And
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if you're 50 right now in 15 years,
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you're going to be shitting in this mattress
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inadvertently over the course of the night
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anyway. So what the fuck are you
1:06:43
going to complain about? You're good for the rest of your life
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with one of these things. And
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did I mention no hazardous material? And
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they've got kids' mattresses specially
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designed with the kids in mind.
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So it's kind of like, you know, they got
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one that's kind of like a bouncy house. You
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take your kid, throw him about three feet in
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the air, he hits this thing, boom, he'll bounce
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up and hit the ceiling. That's not advisable, and
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there's no guarantees of how far anyone will bounce,
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and you're not supposed to bounce people off the mattress.
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Well, they're easier to bounce if they're under
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six. But these are designed
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for children 3 to 12 years old. They're
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designed for sleep. Let's be specific. Yes, well, you
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know, I'll tell you what, one good bump
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on the head at that age, you'll sleep all
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night. But folks, right now-
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zero bumps on your bump card if you sleep
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with Helix sleep. Well, they're not beds, they're
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mattresses. You don't need a bed to sleep on a
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mattress. If a lot of you people out there, if
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you're listening to us but you're not doing well and
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you don't have any furniture in your house, hey,
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that's the way Randy Savage used to live back
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when he was a starving wrestler. Just put the
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mattress right down on the floor, because if it's
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a Helix, it'll make the floor
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feel good. And you'll
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float away into Dreamland. And that's
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probably what's contributing to your
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lack of fucking furniture because you're
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sleeping so much- you're not going out and
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getting a job and working to pay for
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these things. So that you can,
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cool you down. It's like you just pulled it
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out of a cooler, out of a freezer, out
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of an ice chest, out of
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an ice box, out of an ice flow. It's
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fuck your body temperature drops 10, 12
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degrees. It does not. That would
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certainly be unhealthy and it would advise to
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say these things that are not true. You
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don't sweat when you sleep overnight. You
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don't even, you don't even realize
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when you're waking up, you're numb completely because
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of the cold. No, you are not. It
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is not that cold. It is just a
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proper amount of chill. Like you turn your
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pillow over and of course you will wake
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up with the normal temperature of the house
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and the room and everyone else there, but
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with a little bit of chill, the right amount.
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they have just the right amount of,
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of coldness, but not, you have no
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numbness, no extremity issues, no frostbite
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or anything else to worry about.
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especially if we keep doing spots like this. So
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do it now before you forget
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about it. Sleep good. Like
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a good cult member should on a
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helix sleep mattress and. into
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a cloud of ecstasy.
1:10:05
Well Jim, let's go from the cloud of
1:10:07
ecstasy back to reality, I guess, and
1:10:09
back to the world of wrestling as we know
1:10:11
it. Well and we want
1:10:14
to talk about the AEW, we
1:10:16
don't really want to talk about it but we're
1:10:18
going to the AEW television program for March the
1:10:20
6th but first I just heard this
1:10:22
morning and I wanted to make mention of it that
1:10:25
Jay Lethal's mother Shirley
1:10:27
Shipman passed away apparently I guess
1:10:30
yesterday as we're recording this and
1:10:33
boy just her and his
1:10:35
father both used to come to Jay's
1:10:38
matches, they supported him from when
1:10:40
he first started training and they
1:10:42
were at all of his matches
1:10:44
early on in the Northeast and
1:10:46
before he was traveling everywhere and
1:10:48
they're real nice people and they did
1:10:51
the angle with Jay
1:10:53
and Steen in very
1:10:55
near his hometown, I can't remember the little
1:10:57
town in New Jersey that we were in
1:10:59
but it was like five or ten miles
1:11:01
from Jay's hometown and they
1:11:03
were in the front row for his title match and the
1:11:06
guys were fighting out on the floor in
1:11:09
front of them and I think
1:11:12
it was Jay's dad throws the drink in Steen's
1:11:17
face because he's abusing their son and
1:11:19
Steen thinks it's a fan and turns
1:11:21
around and spits at him and it
1:11:23
spits on Jay's mother and
1:11:26
Jay comes up and goes berserk and
1:11:28
they have this big arena brawl double
1:11:30
count out. What we were doing was
1:11:33
we didn't know for sure whether
1:11:36
we were going to be able to get and
1:11:39
everybody seemed to want good
1:11:41
old El Generico for
1:11:44
a final battle that year
1:11:46
and we were shooting an angle because I
1:11:48
would have rather gone with Jay Lethal versus
1:11:50
Kevin Steen for the Ring of Honor championship
1:11:52
to begin with but the other guys wanted
1:11:54
one more farewell match. Why didn't you know
1:11:57
if you would get them? Because
1:11:59
this is when he wasn't under contract and he
1:12:01
was being fishy because they were promising him that
1:12:03
they'd bring him into, or was
1:12:06
NXT or if it was FCW back in those
1:12:08
days or whatever it was. So
1:12:10
we weren't sure. And I was like, I
1:12:13
don't even want to get off on this,
1:12:15
but I was like, we're count down to
1:12:17
these guys in this day for this indie,
1:12:19
you know, dream match when we need
1:12:21
to build Jay Lethal as our top
1:12:23
star, but nevertheless. Um,
1:12:26
so that was an angle that they worked
1:12:28
with us in. And anyway,
1:12:30
they were big fans of Jay's work as
1:12:32
I am. And we're sorry to hear
1:12:34
about his mother passing away. And we
1:12:37
just wanted to make mention of that before we
1:12:39
talk about this television program, which
1:12:41
Jay was actually on briefly for a
1:12:43
second. Imagine that. It's
1:12:46
nice to see, but nevertheless,
1:12:49
we go to Atlanta, Georgia
1:12:51
for AW dynamite. We weren't
1:12:53
actually in Atlanta. They're in
1:12:56
the gas South arena.
1:12:59
Apparently now in Atlanta, there's just arenas popping
1:13:01
up all over the place. If, if you
1:13:04
didn't back in the day, if
1:13:06
you didn't go to the Omni, you pretty much
1:13:08
were out in the fucking flea market, but it
1:13:11
was dark. It assumed, I
1:13:14
assumed rather that it looked so dark
1:13:16
because it was mostly empty. I don't
1:13:18
know how big it was. Do
1:13:21
we have any quotation on how
1:13:23
they did in this thing? Cause there was
1:13:25
some hollow sounding things that went on. Uh,
1:13:28
we do have the attendance. I would have
1:13:30
to double check somewhere for what was
1:13:32
actually the building capacity, but hold on, a,
1:13:34
E W dynamite. Uh,
1:13:37
I surprised you with that. You did
1:13:39
on March 6th, the gas South arena
1:13:41
Duluth, Georgia. There were 3,246
1:13:43
tickets distributed. Uh,
1:13:47
the previous time they were there, just according to wrestle
1:13:49
ticks, August 23rd, 2023 for
1:13:52
dynamite, they drew 5,343. Yeah.
1:13:56
She slid down a couple thousand, but
1:13:59
that's tickets distributed. Not actually, everybody
1:14:01
didn't have to show up. That includes all
1:14:03
the comps they gave to the furniture store,
1:14:05
whatever. But nevertheless, Tony
1:14:07
Schiavone's in the ring. We're going to start
1:14:09
out with a bang with Swerve Strickland and
1:14:11
Prince Nana. And
1:14:15
immediately, Tony
1:14:17
gives the intro talking about how all
1:14:19
the fans love Swerve Strickland,
1:14:21
which they do. It's clear they're chanting Swerve's
1:14:23
house and cheering for him, but there's... It's
1:14:27
like the announcers have suddenly said, okay, well,
1:14:31
you were a heel doing the most dastardly
1:14:33
things and you've got a manager who also
1:14:35
manages other heels, but you've never done anything
1:14:37
really to turn. The people just started to
1:14:39
cheer for you. So now we're not going
1:14:41
to acknowledge all of that. And we're just
1:14:43
going to... The fans love you! And
1:14:48
not as a babyface manager, what you really think about
1:14:50
it, with the dancing and everything, how are you going
1:14:52
to do that? And well, yeah, well, when he comes
1:14:54
to that, well, we'll talk about the other guys in
1:14:56
a minute. But
1:14:58
he... Swerve
1:15:01
does the promo talking about, well, Joe won at
1:15:03
the pay-per-view. Hey, is it karma for all the
1:15:05
bad things that I've done? I've
1:15:08
done some pretty bad things around here. Hey! Am
1:15:12
I just supposed to be an also...
1:15:14
He's got the doubt going on. He's
1:15:16
doubting himself. It's terrible
1:15:18
when people have doubt about them. And
1:15:20
Swerve takes the microphone and leaves Tony
1:15:23
standing there just... Tony not
1:15:25
only goes and stands in the corner, but he just
1:15:27
stares off out of the ring. While
1:15:29
this shit's going on, if
1:15:31
he's going to be in the ring and conduct
1:15:33
the interview, him being in the ring, conduct
1:15:36
the interview. He's not, don't. He just stands there
1:15:38
holding his cock. So
1:15:43
Swerve then says
1:15:46
Greensboro was different because the people,
1:15:48
they flew from Washington. They were
1:15:50
rooting for me. They wanted me
1:15:52
to win. And because
1:15:54
of that, I'm not going to let you
1:15:56
down. So now he's just... I'm coming for
1:15:58
Samoa Joe. He probably... that he
1:16:00
would beat Samoa Joe for the title. So
1:16:02
apparently, because you know
1:16:04
that Tony has read the rule
1:16:07
of thumb that babyfaces never promise anything
1:16:09
they can't deliver on the Internet, that
1:16:12
means Swerve's winning the title. But
1:16:15
now, so he's just full-fledged babyface now, they've
1:16:17
gone with that. And then
1:16:19
Joe's music plays, and
1:16:21
Joe had a good line. He
1:16:23
said, you're making promises you can't keep
1:16:26
because your house unfortunately exists in my
1:16:28
world. And
1:16:31
so Swerve's answer to that is, well, we're dressed to wrestle.
1:16:33
We don't have to wait. Let's do it tonight. As a
1:16:35
matter of fact, let's do it right now. Total
1:16:39
babyface. See? It's just,
1:16:41
yeah. So
1:16:43
then, as he says that, the
1:16:47
undisputed era of the
1:16:49
kingdom of the
1:16:52
spiders. And what is their name? They
1:16:55
used to be the undisputed era, now they're the
1:16:57
undisputed kingdom. Adam Cole and the Job Squad. Oh
1:17:02
my God, where in the world
1:17:04
are those shirts with you? Tony should buy that trademark. He's
1:17:07
built one. He doesn't even realize it. So
1:17:10
Adam Cole wheels out in a wheelchair with
1:17:13
Roderick Strong and Matt Taven and Mike Bennett
1:17:15
and Wardlow. And Taven and Bennett, as we
1:17:17
know, are the Ring of Honor World Tag
1:17:19
Team Champions. And
1:17:22
I'm not sure if they could get any takers for those
1:17:24
belts at a pawn shop. And
1:17:27
Adam's now, but he doesn't have the Adam
1:17:29
Cole music. It's the fucking whatever heel music
1:17:31
they're playing. Nobody
1:17:34
is ready for story time with Adam Cole,
1:17:36
baby. And
1:17:39
he tries to put these guys over, and
1:17:41
there might be a chance of him succeeding
1:17:43
at that, as we've mentioned. Not only
1:17:47
hadn't been beaten like
1:17:49
government mules, but continued
1:17:51
to be beaten
1:17:54
in a fashion that only
1:17:56
losers can fulfill. And
1:18:00
Eddie tells Samoa Joe he's champion because
1:18:02
they let it happen. Nobody remembers that
1:18:04
at this point. Do
1:18:07
they? Has that just, it's
1:18:09
just lost. And
1:18:12
Wardlow is going to win the AEW title
1:18:14
very soon. I bet you that ain't going to
1:18:16
happen. And then
1:18:18
Swerve knocked Cole's guys and Cole said,
1:18:20
well, next week we'll just have Matt
1:18:22
Taven and Mike Bennett versus Swerve and
1:18:24
Samoa Joe. And Swerve's like, well, why
1:18:26
wait? Good boy. He's, he's
1:18:29
full of vim and vigor there. And
1:18:32
Adam said, no, no, it'll be next week. And
1:18:34
as soon as he, as
1:18:36
soon as he said that Tony
1:18:38
Shavani chimed in out of wherever
1:18:40
he was, they didn't even remember to turn
1:18:42
his microphone on at first. And
1:18:45
he said, no, I just heard from
1:18:47
Tony Khan, the match is on right
1:18:50
now. I swear the decision was made
1:18:53
by Tony Khan under 10 seconds
1:18:55
after the challenge was uttered. It's,
1:18:59
I mean, it's almost like it's being
1:19:01
sent out by mental telepathy. He's on
1:19:03
the goddamn headset agreeing
1:19:05
to something that hadn't been pitched yet. And
1:19:10
then they just started the match. And
1:19:12
so suddenly Swerve is teaming with
1:19:14
Samoa Joe. Did
1:19:17
we ever hear what Swerve thought about that?
1:19:19
Or he just went along with it without
1:19:21
saying a word. Boodoo a goose as Adrian
1:19:23
street would say. Well, once Tony Shavani says
1:19:26
something, it's official. Well, cause it
1:19:28
came from Tony Khan, who's a telepath.
1:19:32
All righty. So
1:19:35
they have the magic and Joe beats the heels up
1:19:37
for a while and then Swerve beat the heels up
1:19:39
and then Swerve beat
1:19:41
Taven flat and middle one, two, three. It
1:19:43
was in minutes. So,
1:19:47
so these guys, and
1:19:49
then the ring of honor tag champions, right? Yes.
1:19:51
They're the greatest ring of honor
1:19:53
tag team champions of all time. I believe was
1:19:55
the phrase and they were
1:19:58
beaten by makeshift tag team. that
1:20:00
doesn't like each other in minutes with
1:20:04
very little offense. And then as Swerve was
1:20:06
staring back at the rest of them like
1:20:08
he wants some more, Joe walks up behind
1:20:10
him and grabs Sleeper on him and choked
1:20:12
him out. What
1:20:21
is there to even say about that? I mean, the booking
1:20:23
is so bad. Ring of Honor.
1:20:26
Let's just talk about Ring of Honor real quick, whatever
1:20:28
that is. Because
1:20:30
they treated their tag champions the way Triple H
1:20:33
used to treat everyone in the first part of
1:20:35
the century. Every tag team, Triple
1:20:37
H would beat them. Ring of
1:20:39
Honor tag champions beat by this makeshift team of two
1:20:41
guys who hate each other. In
1:20:44
minutes, in minutes, in
1:20:47
minutes, it took
1:20:49
Will Ostrich, I'm going
1:20:51
to say seven times as
1:20:55
long as this match was to
1:20:58
beat Kyle Felcher. And the
1:21:00
other problem is the undisputed kingdom. No one cares
1:21:02
about him. Well, of course not. Because
1:21:05
look, what- The feud with MJF
1:21:08
had the reverse effect that it shouldn't. It caused people
1:21:10
just not to want to see any of these people.
1:21:14
And again, poor Mike Bennett. What
1:21:17
the fuck has happened to his hair? Alrighty.
1:21:23
For later on in the program, the
1:21:26
douchebag twins were out to let us know
1:21:28
that they have two big announcements later on.
1:21:32
So we got that going for us. And
1:21:35
then they had an FTW
1:21:37
title match between Hook and
1:21:40
Brian Cage. Hook is, he's
1:21:43
rangy as they used to say. He's
1:21:47
got that slim physique to him. And Brian
1:21:49
Cage is a walking steroid
1:21:53
injection. And
1:21:58
it's a- It's
1:22:00
a title that was made specifically
1:22:02
to not be sanctioned, to be
1:22:04
carried by Taz at ECW with
1:22:06
the whole campaign, whatever the fuck.
1:22:09
But now they're having sanctioned
1:22:11
matches for this title that's not supposed to...
1:22:13
The whole idea of Fuck the World is
1:22:16
it ain't sanctioned. And
1:22:19
because it's the FTW title, they're
1:22:21
garbage matches with weapons and
1:22:24
thumbtacks and chairs and garbage
1:22:26
cans and lazy booking. For
1:22:30
no reason with just two fucking guys that,
1:22:32
you know, they just put together.
1:22:36
And I think Cage was dressed as
1:22:38
either a video game character or they
1:22:40
just pulled him out of a Halloween
1:22:42
party. And
1:22:46
Hook somehow beats
1:22:49
this guy that's 100 pounds bigger than
1:22:51
he is in his garbage match. And
1:22:53
then that's when the
1:22:55
rest of Prince Nana's heels hit
1:22:57
the ring and attack Hook. You
1:23:01
remember Prince Nana's other heels, the
1:23:05
various crew of job guy preliminary
1:23:07
heels that he manages when he's
1:23:10
not managing the most
1:23:12
popular babyface in the company. Now,
1:23:15
he didn't come out with them. Maybe
1:23:19
over the last week, he's seen the light
1:23:21
and dropped these guys like a bad habit.
1:23:25
But yeah, they come out and they beat up Hook.
1:23:27
And then Jericho comes out with a baseball bat and
1:23:29
everybody runs away without him being able to hit him
1:23:31
because I don't think they wanted him. He hit one
1:23:33
guy and the guy's like, oh, shit, let me get
1:23:36
out of here. So
1:23:39
what the fuck
1:23:41
is going on? What was
1:23:43
this purpose could this serve?
1:23:46
And with Nana, they should just do something where
1:23:49
he sells his stable to Smart Mark Sterling or
1:23:51
something and moves on just him and Swerve because
1:23:53
that works. Maybe he
1:23:55
could trade him for weed. The
1:23:58
lack of reaction to Jericho, even when he's in the house. when
1:24:00
they try to gimmick up the potential
1:24:02
for a reaction with the music and everything, it's
1:24:04
growing. He's looking worse out
1:24:06
there, but the lack of reaction is growing.
1:24:09
This is what we said was going to happen. And
1:24:11
they're going to try to tie him the hook. Let's
1:24:14
see if that helps hook. If
1:24:16
it's a job stable you're feuding with, it's a job stable
1:24:18
and that's the way they've been treated. How
1:24:21
many more years he got on that 10
1:24:23
year contract, Jericho? About
1:24:26
eight? Maybe he'll hit, you know,
1:24:29
he'll get a second wind at some point.
1:24:33
He might need oxygen by
1:24:35
then. But so
1:24:37
then we got Dino douche
1:24:39
against MacDaddy. Now MacDaddy, after
1:24:41
he broke off from being
1:24:43
just one of the Jericho
1:24:45
appreciators, he's a part-time color commentator.
1:24:48
He likes to run down and
1:24:50
make saves in underneath and preliminary
1:24:52
matches. And now he's wrestling
1:24:55
the lizard and
1:24:57
the lizard beat him fairly quickly
1:25:01
and then got some more heat on
1:25:03
him. And then here came Daniel Garcia
1:25:05
making the save with the sloppiest worst
1:25:07
punches that I have seen in a
1:25:10
wrestling ring in a long time. I don't
1:25:13
know what the fuck. Again, anytime
1:25:15
they put this guy in a position to
1:25:17
impress me with anything, if
1:25:20
he's so great and he can do all these havoc
1:25:22
and corona's off the top rope and all of these
1:25:25
Japanese crotch-locked leg strangles, why can't he
1:25:28
throw a punch that doesn't look like
1:25:30
a fucking awkward fucking
1:25:32
12 year old girl with braces on her
1:25:34
teeth? Explain
1:25:37
that one to me, Lucy. Maybe he's never thrown
1:25:39
a punch? Well, he
1:25:41
needs to fucking practice then. Instead of doing
1:25:43
all his goddamn 20 minute
1:25:45
Japanese bullshit, figure out how to look
1:25:47
like you're in a fight. Dumb
1:25:50
shit. Give me advice. How should he practice it? What
1:25:52
should he do? Good
1:25:54
luck. He's got a crazy schedule. Once a week,
1:25:56
he has to go to a show. Oh my
1:25:58
God. God, somebody
1:26:01
needs to fucking show him. Then
1:26:05
he needs to do it over and over until
1:26:07
he can do it without potato in anybody. Now
1:26:10
that I've said that, who there is going to show
1:26:12
him? And then it
1:26:14
would require him to listen, but then I'm sure
1:26:16
the other kids have said, Oh no, we trade
1:26:18
chops now. So
1:26:21
then Nick plane jumped in and
1:26:24
they stopped Garcia and they got
1:26:26
some really slow lackluster heat and
1:26:29
then walked off. But
1:26:31
suddenly from the
1:26:34
entrance way, edge appeared and threw
1:26:36
the lizard off the stage and
1:26:39
choked Nick plane out and then
1:26:42
began menacing Christian cage. And
1:26:45
suddenly Nick's mom came up behind edge and
1:26:48
tried to nut shot him, but he blocked
1:26:50
it. Not really if you go back and
1:26:52
watch it in slow motion because she didn't
1:26:54
give him the eggy, right? But he
1:26:56
got it. It was close enough. And
1:26:59
then after blocking the nut shot, he
1:27:01
chased Christian cage out through the arena
1:27:04
through several areas of the backstage
1:27:08
where cameras were strategically placed
1:27:10
to catch the, the
1:27:12
chase scene, even though they weren't chasing the
1:27:14
guys from behind, they were ahead of them.
1:27:18
So they put them along their entire route out
1:27:20
of the building. And
1:27:22
then Christian carjacked
1:27:24
some guy in an SUV and, and
1:27:27
drove off and edge turned to the
1:27:29
camera and issued a challenge for
1:27:31
March 20th,
1:27:34
Toronto TNT title. I
1:27:36
quit match. First
1:27:39
of all, I thought this program was over. What
1:27:42
in this program over? It'll never be
1:27:44
over. Didn't we want it
1:27:46
to be over? We wanted it to be over or
1:27:49
at least redone from the beginning. Well,
1:27:51
it ain't over. But
1:27:54
secondly, this one Tony beat
1:27:56
his record time from earlier.
1:27:59
I swear. The guy five seconds after
1:28:02
age uttered those words sought
1:28:04
face was saying tony Com
1:28:06
has made it official. Up
1:28:09
the. Heat. Is a Job. Press
1:28:11
the button on the I've Be and speak to a
1:28:13
goddamn. Is it? Anyway,
1:28:22
As. Was also lives of ordinary was
1:28:24
also our Sons of Anarchy edge my
1:28:26
courage. Will ever
1:28:28
be replaced by a to run
1:28:30
he brought he really yeah he
1:28:32
really also he backslide zone his
1:28:34
personal grooming and his. His.
1:28:37
Attire would he comes out to the slum
1:28:39
in the indies like this. Oh.
1:28:42
Just spreading of slumming and me
1:28:45
undies. Did you see run? Mostly
1:28:47
good with Carlo Rally. I.
1:28:50
Did? I couldn't tell if his shirt was dirty
1:28:52
from my sweat stains of that was the design.
1:28:55
Has with the whole interview. fascinating about
1:28:57
that know it was sweat stains and
1:28:59
you were on to the most interesting
1:29:01
thing about the interview. They.
1:29:03
Brought him back. In
1:29:06
the ridiculous where they brought back it's pay
1:29:08
per view where he just comes in look
1:29:10
like of a hobo this been sleeping under
1:29:12
a bench. And whispers
1:29:14
to fuckin' Roddy.
1:29:16
And then walks out. and now he's
1:29:19
in a sweaty, dirty t shirt and
1:29:21
a baseball cap. Saying.
1:29:24
That he didn't think you'd ever russell again for
1:29:26
a while. He's grateful to get a second chance.
1:29:28
At he's fallen down the mountain, but now
1:29:30
he's. He's. Gotta do it on
1:29:32
his own rather than be with his friends. I
1:29:35
think that's what he say and because he is.
1:29:38
He. Didn't make any declared if statements. he
1:29:40
beat around the bush and it looked like
1:29:42
what he was thirty five fallen down the
1:29:44
mountain that he. Had some
1:29:46
kind of my personal problems the way
1:29:48
he's dressed and looking. So
1:29:51
he said nothing in it. What he did say didn't
1:29:53
make a lot of sense and this is the way
1:29:55
that they're. Read. Debuting
1:29:58
him. From. A. The
1:30:00
illegitimate potential career ending.
1:30:03
Injury. And
1:30:05
he he does backstage pre tapes and walks
1:30:08
into the ring or he looks like a
1:30:10
bomb and says nothing. How.
1:30:12
Is this interesting? How
1:30:15
would this a keen eye on the
1:30:17
wrestling is ever gotten the bombs and
1:30:19
right there's never really been other always
1:30:21
a bomb but to wrestle. And.
1:30:23
Always so there was something I could have been done.
1:30:26
Maybe. Just a chance. To.
1:30:28
Some Washington or Southern right? Whale
1:30:31
oh that's awful bad weather up there to be
1:30:33
sleep without a slot. A Bombs a lot of
1:30:35
bombs. Buttons everywhere so he to buy it. May.
1:30:38
Be Darby found him on Gamal. He. Brought
1:30:41
him back. Was. Begun
1:30:43
to bombs. We. Were
1:30:46
at the nine o'clock hour. And
1:30:48
out came the Lollipop Guild. Brian the
1:30:51
Rock is gonna be on the Oscars
1:30:53
and a buck a ruse. Weren't even
1:30:55
runners up for the Wrestling Observer Newsletter
1:30:57
awards is that. Is. That
1:31:00
an ironic a situation.
1:31:03
Much. As irony. but it's it's something.
1:31:06
Well. As like rain on
1:31:08
of wedding day. That's not
1:31:10
irony either. Well. I was
1:31:12
in the song. It's like
1:31:14
having one hand in your pocket. And
1:31:17
the other one flesh a peace sign that's
1:31:19
a different song while parts about were different
1:31:21
song. Will. Anyway,
1:31:23
so at nine o'clock
1:31:25
the the new generic
1:31:28
piano music plays. Now.
1:31:31
They're not do enough ago and they were do
1:31:33
and in what was it? Dunder. Struck
1:31:36
whenever I know some cannibal a
1:31:38
days. it's just. Boring.
1:31:40
As bullshit music, they raised
1:31:43
the. The. Marry a Nikki
1:31:45
up through the stage in the middle
1:31:47
of a fog bank. While.
1:31:50
They're wearing their finest. Duisburg.
1:31:53
Arry. and blow
1:31:55
off tarot after pyro ten the announcers
1:31:58
are talking about, well, look at all
1:32:00
the pyro they have and it went
1:32:02
to grandiose entrance. You know, the
1:32:05
EVPs have given themselves and
1:32:07
nobody's given a shit. Are
1:32:09
the people caring? Are
1:32:11
those people standing there staring and
1:32:14
mildly hooting this shit down, captivated
1:32:18
with this new presentation of these
1:32:20
two fucking
1:32:22
uterine cleansing devices? No.
1:32:26
I thought it was just me. So
1:32:29
they kicked Tony Schwanie out of the ring. They
1:32:32
ought to give Tony a fucking elevator over in
1:32:34
one corner. Him having to climb in
1:32:37
and out. And they
1:32:39
do a promo like two guys
1:32:41
working at a subway sandwich
1:32:43
shop, pretending to be wrestlers on
1:32:47
their break. Like, oh, we
1:32:49
saw this on TV and the guy said, I'm
1:32:52
going to tell you something.
1:32:54
And I
1:32:57
don't know what hang
1:32:59
they'll page. They announced that they
1:33:01
hated to do it, but he
1:33:03
attacked referees at the pay-per-view. So
1:33:05
he's suspended indefinitely from the elite.
1:33:09
Well, he's not a
1:33:11
he's a heel now. He's supposed to
1:33:13
wire these heels suspending
1:33:16
other another heel. And he's
1:33:18
not they're not suspending him from a they're
1:33:20
suspending him from the elite. Just
1:33:23
don't goddamn bring him up again. You fucking
1:33:25
morons. You think people care about your little
1:33:27
fucking boys club house that fucking much. We
1:33:30
don't care who's at your meeting when you have
1:33:32
the tree house thing all decked out. So
1:33:36
they've suspended another
1:33:38
heel from their little group.
1:33:42
And then they say Twinkle Toes disappeared for
1:33:44
no good reason. They're trying to get a
1:33:46
heat off of not being sympathetic
1:33:49
to Kenny's problem
1:33:51
with his lack of guts. So
1:33:54
they fired him from the elite. Because
1:33:57
He's a full fledged baby face. Fire
1:34:00
Him. And.
1:34:02
Then. It.
1:34:04
And and they're doing all this with
1:34:06
that satanist with you Just can't. Own
1:34:10
see earn hear that You know that they're
1:34:12
acting this way on purpose in their put
1:34:14
this on a nearby. They've got their
1:34:16
tongue in cheek about. It. And.
1:34:19
Eight here comes Eddie Kingston Music.
1:34:22
And he turns out the Reagan throws
1:34:24
about. His
1:34:26
eighty dollars in fuckin' tins. I
1:34:28
don't know what that was. Adam.
1:34:32
To pay his fire in advance
1:34:34
and then attacks the I'm In.
1:34:37
I. Can't even call it sloppy you
1:34:39
a of what was that he
1:34:41
nothing was connecting. Are they ducking
1:34:43
and. Flinching, Was he
1:34:46
just throwing sloppy? Pause.
1:34:48
In the air. What was going on with that? Fight
1:34:51
Quote Unquote. I. Don't know how
1:34:53
sad it as at every last week. First.
1:34:56
Time I saw my son's that was the greatest punch
1:34:58
have seen in awhile. Ever seen a
1:35:00
slowed a while. I don't
1:35:02
know what was going on there. Maybe he was
1:35:04
afraid that they, but he would potato women. They
1:35:06
really would. Funny. But. Anyway,
1:35:08
they get him down. And
1:35:11
they've got him trap for their little
1:35:13
double need lifting. and again the people
1:35:15
are standing there staring. Much.
1:35:18
as some of them again or who
1:35:20
lion weeks to quit. There's.
1:35:22
No goddamn chaos going on.
1:35:26
But. Their music plays before they can
1:35:28
do their need lived and when. Oh.
1:35:31
Caught his name flashes up on
1:35:33
a big screen. They pop. There's.
1:35:36
A big because. Here's the goddamn. Dream.
1:35:40
Guy that they wanted to sign that air
1:35:42
by thinks is so great right of our
1:35:44
okay. And he comes
1:35:46
out dressed. I believe you said this to me.
1:35:48
I think off the year so I'm not going
1:35:51
to take credit for it. but he was dressed
1:35:53
as the Japanese Cody Rhodes. What's.
1:35:56
Of and out he comes. At.
1:35:59
A He. He it gets next to
1:36:01
Kingston. And. They
1:36:04
face off with the book. a ruse.
1:36:07
And then suddenly. Ocado.
1:36:11
Gets. Behind Kings didn't like his try
1:36:13
to give him the Heimlich maneuver. And
1:36:16
fumbles to grab his arm and then
1:36:18
spins around. and I get theirs is
1:36:20
short arm clothesline. It's the Rainmaker. or
1:36:23
it's the whatever the fuck, right? So.
1:36:27
Not. Only did he turn on Kingston.
1:36:30
But. He telegraphed it. Instead of just
1:36:32
turn it around and clothesline, the fucker
1:36:34
kick in Amer dead hit. Do anything.
1:36:37
Ego. He takes five seconds to get a
1:36:39
grip on him before he actually levels him.
1:36:42
And. Been. It's. One
1:36:44
short arm close, One. Any
1:36:47
miss company where they don't sell.them
1:36:50
being run over by a propane
1:36:52
truck. Kingston,
1:36:54
Takes one short on clothesline cells that
1:36:57
like death and he's down. In.
1:36:59
Till The Heels Celebrate! Walk.
1:37:01
Around and walk out. Etti still
1:37:04
sell and. From. One clothesline.
1:37:08
They. Have. They've.
1:37:11
Turned their their big new
1:37:13
investment. He'll. Just.
1:37:16
To. See. Of the
1:37:19
book a ruse, an artificial bump in their
1:37:21
in their segments in the ratings or in
1:37:23
some type of interest level where if they're
1:37:25
span and next to the guy that. The.
1:37:28
People want to react to They think that.
1:37:32
That zilch think that they're reacting to
1:37:34
them. What? What of? Why Are they
1:37:36
doing this? Because. I'm fuckin'
1:37:38
big multimillion dollar signing they just
1:37:40
did will ostrich. They.
1:37:43
Fuck and put him in the heel group. Betty.
1:37:46
Goes away for two months. they realize they
1:37:48
do to fucking baby face and they bring
1:37:50
him back and he's a baby face. Shaken
1:37:52
hands with everybody while still in the heel
1:37:54
group with a heel manager. And.
1:37:57
in they spend millions on this guy And
1:38:00
I get he probably wouldn't be as popular as
1:38:02
ostrich because I pretty sure he can't
1:38:04
speak any English right or very little So
1:38:07
he gonna be cutting a promos to anybody on his
1:38:09
side But
1:38:13
he's a fucking heel now to
1:38:15
to prop the buckaroos up if
1:38:18
you're gonna make him a heel at least Make
1:38:20
him a heel Aligned with people
1:38:23
that will draw money and interest instead
1:38:25
of draw that away Am I
1:38:29
being overly critical here or was this some
1:38:31
dumb fucking shit that went on in
1:38:34
their minds? It's good shit in their minds it
1:38:36
also sets up the potential elite versus elite feud
1:38:38
down the road when Omega can Do
1:38:40
anything again and Adam Page could be his buddy
1:38:43
again and they defude with the new elite
1:38:45
Maybe get a little trainee a young
1:38:47
boy. Maybe coda bushe'll be able to walk by
1:38:50
that point Oh, I forgot about him He's
1:38:55
in Tony Khan's new branch
1:38:57
of his wrestling company called the
1:39:00
wrestlers convalescent home Tony's
1:39:02
gonna sign people up to Guaranteed
1:39:05
contracts so they can go have fucking surgery and
1:39:07
be out for two years on his dime Oh,
1:39:10
God is the biggest star in New Japan for? Maybe
1:39:13
the last decade So it's a big deal
1:39:15
getting him and to the fans who like that He's a name
1:39:17
that if you've caught up with New Japan at all in the
1:39:19
last 10 years. He's been to the center of
1:39:22
everything You're putting
1:39:24
him with the Bucks who are dead on arrival right now.
1:39:27
Oh, you said they're propping him up AW
1:39:30
never Does a good
1:39:32
job capitalizing on the best way to
1:39:34
use someone when they come in with
1:39:37
the exception Malachi black When
1:39:39
he first came in they got more interest on him
1:39:43
Then he's had since but a lot of that also was
1:39:45
because of the dynamic with the fans reacting to Cody
1:39:47
Rhodes Well, and also a lot
1:39:49
of it was we hadn't seen much of
1:39:51
him yet more we saw the less we
1:39:53
like but everyone who comes In they get
1:39:55
squandered into something right away Brian Danielson Adam.
1:39:58
Yeah. Yeah right into their orange cast Will
1:40:02
Ospreay, you know, if
1:40:04
you liked the matches, and I really liked a couple
1:40:07
of the matches, we'll talk about it later, they're
1:40:09
great matches, but are
1:40:12
they really elevating him? We'll talk about the numbers
1:40:14
a little bit later. And now Okada. It seems
1:40:17
like they never really, truly, properly capitalize
1:40:20
on what someone could bring. Jay White.
1:40:24
Jay White was a New Japan-made eventter against
1:40:27
guys like Okada. And
1:40:30
now he's in the Bang Bang Scissor Gang, having
1:40:33
scissor fights with his scissor friends. That's
1:40:37
what AEW does to people. You get
1:40:39
caught in scissor fights with scissor friends.
1:40:44
So you're not being overly critical, we'll see
1:40:46
how it works. You know,
1:40:48
I'm not to play too much of a spoiler,
1:40:50
but other than the first hour, it was
1:40:53
the high point of the rating, so there was interest in seeing what
1:40:55
this was going to be. If
1:40:57
they can continue that, it'll be something. Now, I
1:41:00
was unaware of this, I was watching Svenguli
1:41:02
last night, but I had collision
1:41:04
on one of the other monitors, and I happened to look up.
1:41:08
The Bucks and Okada had
1:41:10
their first match as a six-man on collision.
1:41:14
The big guy they bring in, they
1:41:16
bury him on the show. I said no one
1:41:18
watches it, it's catching up to dynamite. I
1:41:21
don't know, we'll see. But
1:41:24
I didn't realize he was going to be
1:41:26
wrestling on this show. Well, no, you misspoke.
1:41:28
Dynamite's catching up to collision, not the other
1:41:30
way around. But no, so three days after
1:41:33
he pops up and makes his surprise debut
1:41:35
and joins with these fucking
1:41:37
morons, without
1:41:40
advertising it in any way in
1:41:43
advance except probably on
1:41:45
Twitter, they have
1:41:47
a six-man tag team match on television. Now,
1:41:50
in the midst of all this stuff with Okada wrestling for AEW,
1:41:52
Jim, I don't know how much of this you saw, and I
1:41:54
don't have anything in front of me I could see what we
1:41:56
could find, but word went
1:41:58
around that... The press in
1:42:01
tokyo i forget the office paper was
1:42:04
reporting that okada signed a deal worth the i
1:42:06
think four and a half million dollars a year.
1:42:09
What a w yes it was said
1:42:11
to be. Thirteen
1:42:14
and thirteen or thirteen and a half million
1:42:16
dollars over three years which would translate to
1:42:18
four and a half million dollars a year
1:42:20
i saw this. And
1:42:23
then i saw people immediately
1:42:25
trying to sources say that
1:42:27
exaggerated and walk it back.
1:42:30
Because let's face it for the for
1:42:33
the newspapers the sports press in.
1:42:37
Japan to be reporting that it's kinda
1:42:39
like when. Pro wrestling
1:42:41
illustrated reported that there was a hundred
1:42:43
thousand dollar bounty on dusty road to
1:42:45
head right. You can't take
1:42:48
that seriously because instantly everybody
1:42:50
was laughing like well
1:42:52
no wonder the wwe wasn't
1:42:55
in any way. Competitive with
1:42:57
that that you know but apparently that's
1:42:59
a good thing for a w for
1:43:01
wrestlers to think that tony's really phone
1:43:03
just stupid money around no no it's
1:43:05
not. Because he
1:43:07
really is throwing stupid money around will do
1:43:09
it but they know that already but it
1:43:11
can you imagine. With about
1:43:13
five or six of those fucking guys that
1:43:16
think that their goddamn shit doesn't stink with
1:43:18
the if they would hear that. This
1:43:20
guy's coming in and can even fucking do
1:43:22
promos is going to be making two or
1:43:25
three times as much money is that whatever
1:43:27
no. It wouldn't do
1:43:29
very good for. A
1:43:31
locker room morale if this fucking guy got
1:43:33
thirteen million dollars in three years now i'm
1:43:36
thinking that yeah i don't think it's as
1:43:38
outrageous as other people do just because of
1:43:40
tony con he's coming in there you know
1:43:42
he's making it a minimum a million dollars.
1:43:45
Oh what i'm yeah i'm i'm agreeing with it
1:43:47
probably maybe a couple of million. Because
1:43:49
tony's a complete idiot so that's the
1:43:51
baseline plus. Probably give me
1:43:53
a couple of these other morons are making a couple
1:43:55
million dollars to moxley i'm sure is making a couple
1:43:58
million dollars to go out there and take. At least
1:44:00
the ring. At least. So,
1:44:03
but if, can you imagine if, can you
1:44:05
imagine the plumbers head exploding if he heard
1:44:07
that Okada and believed that Okada was making
1:44:09
twice as much as he was per year
1:44:11
or whatever point being,
1:44:14
we know that Tony is ridiculously throwing
1:44:16
money at these people. And that's another
1:44:18
reason why that I didn't, you
1:44:21
seem to think that
1:44:24
the WWE was more interested
1:44:26
in both ostrich and Okada than
1:44:29
I did because I didn't think they would
1:44:31
be that serious about it because I knew
1:44:33
that it's Tony Khan's wet dream to be
1:44:36
able to give his ever dwindling pool
1:44:39
of fans more shit to jerk
1:44:41
off about. And that
1:44:43
would be this, and he was going to
1:44:45
pay them much more than the WWE ever
1:44:47
would as a legitimate business investment into talents.
1:44:50
See, I agree with that part, but I did think WWE
1:44:52
had an interest in him, a heavy interest. I don't think
1:44:54
they were going to pay this kind of money and they'll
1:44:57
pay that kind of money to get
1:45:00
you to return to the company if you've proven
1:45:02
yourself. They're not throwing that kind
1:45:05
of money at someone who's an
1:45:07
unproven entity who, you
1:45:09
know, I hate to say because I think both guys are really good and
1:45:11
I think both guys are main eventers, but
1:45:13
may or may not be sent to NXT for a brief
1:45:16
period of time if they sign. So it's
1:45:18
a completely different world. Will Ospreay
1:45:21
has spoken glowingly about Tony
1:45:24
Khan because you could tell it's changed
1:45:26
his life. It changed his lifestyle. It changed
1:45:28
everything. And that's
1:45:31
Tony Khan advantage now. When one of these
1:45:33
guys comes up for free agency before WWE
1:45:35
locks it down for a five year deal,
1:45:38
Tony could say, I'll pay you
1:45:40
double what they'll pay you. I'll guarantee it. And
1:45:43
you'll barely work. And if you feel
1:45:46
like, you know, you have a headache, you could stay
1:45:48
home and I'll fly you wherever you want
1:45:50
to go. And it'll be first class. And if you want to
1:45:52
go to any football games, I'll hook you up. You
1:45:55
got to talk to me every now and then I'm all right. I'm
1:45:57
a little wired, but I mean, well, and
1:45:59
instead of. going to Japan and spending two
1:46:01
weeks there, a month there, whatever, and
1:46:03
getting beat up, it's a
1:46:05
whole lot easier to fly from the United States
1:46:08
to England or vice
1:46:10
versa. And yes,
1:46:14
that's what I'm saying. The
1:46:17
problem is, every
1:46:19
time he buys a brand new gadget that
1:46:22
works wonders, it
1:46:25
shows an application, he doesn't know how to use
1:46:27
the thing and he can't read the directions. And
1:46:31
it ends up being just another gadget
1:46:33
in a drawer somewhere that nobody uses
1:46:36
anymore. Here's another interesting thing to think
1:46:38
about considering Barry Bloom
1:46:40
is the agent for a lot of these guys like
1:46:42
Jericho the Bucks, Omega I think,
1:46:46
Jim Ross. Do any
1:46:48
of these guys have a most favored nations
1:46:50
clause? Because that was one
1:46:52
of his big things and I'm all for that. You
1:46:55
know, especially if it's on my behalf. I'm all
1:46:57
for an MFN. But do any of these
1:46:59
guys have that? Because I mean
1:47:02
at some point soon Jericho may start
1:47:04
getting noses but we're not there yet.
1:47:06
Well there you go. He's the most
1:47:08
experienced and that's how National
1:47:12
Hall not only got a couple
1:47:14
of raises with a favored nations
1:47:17
clause in their contract in WCW
1:47:19
in the day but
1:47:21
they also had to be
1:47:24
asked to waive that when
1:47:27
they brought Bret Hart in right in
1:47:29
order to do the Bret Hart deal
1:47:31
because... That's right I think. Bischoff
1:47:33
wasn't gonna raise them to what Bret
1:47:35
Hart was making plus one dollar or
1:47:37
whatever. So
1:47:39
they had to waive their right
1:47:41
for that and that can be
1:47:43
read. Oh that's the next thing
1:47:46
Tony will get into and it'll
1:47:48
cost him a fucking fortune once
1:47:50
these guys figure that out. Oh
1:47:52
boy. Well you know, Brian
1:47:54
if only there was some way that Tony Khan could
1:47:57
save some money. Anyways,
1:48:01
Well. As the always spin spin
1:48:03
spin. That. So it's all going
1:48:05
out, it's not come and even. If
1:48:08
see that he's a he's. He's. Poop and
1:48:10
more than he's eaten. that's not healthy. Because.
1:48:13
Sooner or later, you'll run out a poop. I'll
1:48:15
tell you what folks if you want
1:48:17
to be talking about as say you
1:48:20
don't think about it if you poop
1:48:22
more that he eats sooner or later
1:48:24
it's bad news your expunging more than
1:48:26
your in taking that impossible them. Well.
1:48:29
as that's another reason why would be bad
1:48:31
For specific what. Made
1:48:34
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1:48:37
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1:48:39
the Tony could save some money, I
1:48:41
got an idea at. A. Man
1:48:44
like him. Successful businessman. He's
1:48:46
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1:48:49
the announcers about make it matches. He's
1:48:51
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spending your inheritance. Why should I believe
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you now? Dad, I'm doing
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my best. And
1:53:33
then Shad points out the
1:53:35
next match on dynamite was
1:53:37
Chris Stadtlander versus Rio. You
1:53:41
know what? They always treat it like a
1:53:43
surprise when she returns. It's always a surprise.
1:53:46
I always pop like, Oh my God, she's
1:53:48
still there. Rio and AEW original. Well,
1:53:51
they treat it like it's always a surprise.
1:53:53
Rather they keep it secret until the last
1:53:55
minute so that the people won't run off.
1:53:58
Is another way of looking at it. You know, I want
1:54:00
to give her a chance and I want to... No! I
1:54:02
want to... I really do want to, because unlike
1:54:05
you, I'm a good-hearted person. I want to. And
1:54:07
as soon as she comes out there and she
1:54:09
does the smile and the wave like she's a
1:54:11
little girl, it's like, oh come on, I can't
1:54:13
take this seriously, let alone the fact that she's
1:54:15
half the size of her opponents and they
1:54:18
sell for everything and take fucking German
1:54:20
suplexes and everything from her. But
1:54:23
I want to, but she's ridiculous. She
1:54:26
is your kid doing
1:54:28
the moves they see on wrestling to
1:54:30
you and you're going along with it.
1:54:32
Yes! So it gets a reaction because
1:54:34
the kid is doing a good job of mimicking the
1:54:36
wrestlers, but on its
1:54:38
face it's ridiculous. And I'm not saying all small
1:54:41
wrestlers are ridiculous, but Rio is. Well,
1:54:43
no, at some point when you're
1:54:45
this small it's ridiculous, especially with
1:54:47
Chris Stadlander. Why book
1:54:50
that? Why embarrass and
1:54:52
minimalize and bury
1:54:56
one of the only girls you got on your roster
1:54:58
that actually looks like she could be a star if
1:55:00
there was some fucking quality
1:55:03
training available. I
1:55:05
suggest, Chris, follow Jane
1:55:08
Cargill. Map
1:55:10
out her route. Call Stanford. Whatever
1:55:12
the fuck are you and Miss
1:55:14
Cargill friends. Now is the time to exploit
1:55:16
that friendship. I was so
1:55:19
embarrassed because not only ladies and gentlemen who
1:55:21
didn't watch this program and I know there's
1:55:24
a bunch of you out there, Rio
1:55:27
gave up a foot in height, 75 pounds
1:55:30
in weight, and I don't know
1:55:32
what the
1:55:34
phrase is for how you measure talent.
1:55:37
But she gave up a lot of
1:55:39
that too to
1:55:41
Stadlander and Stadlander
1:55:43
had to figure out how not to
1:55:46
accidentally break her in fucking half for
1:55:48
ten minutes and then Rio
1:55:50
rolled her up one, two, three. So,
1:55:56
I mean, you... It's
1:56:01
not about, well, we blamed
1:56:04
Kenny, Twinkle Toes, Kenny Olivier
1:56:06
for so long because of
1:56:08
his weird fixation
1:56:11
on this Japanese underground wrestling
1:56:13
business that he was involved
1:56:16
in where they wrestle these
1:56:18
small nine-year-old girls and people
1:56:20
dressed as giant pandas and whatever the
1:56:22
fuck's going on over there in that
1:56:24
crowd. But
1:56:27
he's home. He's in a hospital.
1:56:29
He's out. It can't even be
1:56:31
explained at this point. You could
1:56:33
have blackmail material on
1:56:35
a motherfucker and they wouldn't be pushing for
1:56:37
you to get pushed like this. This is,
1:56:40
again, some warped thought of Tony
1:56:42
Khan that this girl
1:56:44
should actually be a professional wrestler and deserves
1:56:47
to be on national television. And
1:56:49
until he comes to a
1:56:52
moment of clarity, apparently, everybody's going
1:56:54
to have to put up with this and talent
1:56:56
at some points is going to have to
1:56:58
fucking stooge for this business.
1:57:01
And it's embarrassing. I remind you in the
1:57:03
past, Tony Khan has stated that Riho was
1:57:06
a ratings mover, a ratings draw, and that
1:57:08
was one of the justifications for her being
1:57:10
used. Well, we'll get to
1:57:12
that in a minute, I'm sure, and maybe
1:57:14
we'll just see if that's born fruit or
1:57:18
if he's gone fruit loopy. But
1:57:23
anyway, so then we moved on to the
1:57:25
next time that Tony Shavani was going to
1:57:27
be in the ring to try
1:57:29
to interview somebody. This time he got through
1:57:32
most of it. It
1:57:34
was with Darby Allen who Tony,
1:57:40
you know, he's pro and next, promo
1:57:42
and next week, it's going to be
1:57:44
Darby against light switch Jay White. But
1:57:47
then the question is, what's it going to be
1:57:49
like in your career without Sting? Everybody
1:57:53
knows I made it plain last week.
1:57:56
After I saw what they did, I'm
1:57:58
done with Darby Allen. beyond
1:58:00
help. There's talent there,
1:58:02
there's charisma there, there's opportunity there,
1:58:05
and he's determined to waste all of
1:58:07
it by being a stupid idiot. And
1:58:11
he said, well, I
1:58:13
said that I'd stop and I talked about
1:58:15
this top of the program. I said, I'd
1:58:17
stop at nothing to make sure Sting's retirement
1:58:19
got the respect it deserved. Respect was an
1:58:21
actual quote. That's why he stole
1:58:23
all the attention. As I said at the top of
1:58:25
the show, we talked about that business. And
1:58:29
then he said he's going to wrestle
1:58:31
next week against J. White. And then he's
1:58:33
going to leave March 27th to go climb
1:58:35
Mount Everest. And
1:58:40
there's no guarantee folks that I'll come back alive. And
1:58:44
you know, again, if, if somebody was working
1:58:47
and you know, trying
1:58:49
to build up danger and
1:58:51
intrigue and mystery and interest
1:58:53
in something that we were going
1:58:55
to be able to pay to fucking see
1:58:58
or be involved in or somehow
1:59:00
is going to magnify the
1:59:02
value of the company that he's working for, I
1:59:04
can see it. But there really is no guarantee
1:59:06
that this idiot is going to come back alive
1:59:08
from being an amateur trying to climb Mount Everest.
1:59:10
So therefore, Tony
1:59:13
Khan is letting him come out here, not
1:59:16
only try to commit suicide on his pay-per-view,
1:59:18
but then he said, there's no guarantee
1:59:20
I'm going to come back alive. But if next week is my last match, I'm
1:59:23
going to go out fighting and he's telling the truth. And
1:59:26
I bet you Tony would pay the balance of Darby
1:59:28
Allen's contract to his
1:59:30
next of
1:59:34
kin if he didn't make it off Mount Everest because Tony
1:59:36
is a sap like that. So
1:59:42
Darby does the promo and I was right
1:59:44
as I was about to say, can
1:59:46
somebody please put him on some
1:59:48
kind of involuntary holdup? Involuntary hold
1:59:50
for a few days. Jay
1:59:54
White came out with the guns and it
1:59:56
got worse because Jay White speaking.
2:00:00
is death and
2:00:02
they let him and it
2:00:04
goes on forever. And
2:00:07
I don't know whoever told him
2:00:09
it was interesting or to the
2:00:11
point or delivered
2:00:14
with conviction, but
2:00:16
it's just blithering around the bush. They
2:00:19
had that guy beat the AEW champion when MJF
2:00:21
held the belt. Well,
2:00:25
if you went, that's another reason why Tony's fucking
2:00:27
statistics don't work with the numbers and everything. Cause
2:00:29
if you go back and look at the way
2:00:31
he treated some people last year that he's trying
2:00:33
to get us to buy his main eventers this
2:00:35
year, you'd come up with different ideas.
2:00:39
So J white gave Darby the chance to
2:00:41
back out of the match and join the
2:00:43
bang, bang, scissor
2:00:45
gang bangers as
2:00:48
Darby scissor hands and nobody cared
2:00:50
in the audience. And Darby responded
2:00:52
and nobody cared in the audience
2:00:55
cause they had already been bored
2:00:57
to fucking tears. And
2:00:59
as we know, there were only 3,200 ticket holders and we don't
2:01:03
know that all of them came. So
2:01:06
as they were, as they lost
2:01:08
people to disinterest and attrition, it
2:01:11
was getting quieter. How
2:01:13
many times have we seen this two in AEW in five years?
2:01:16
No, no, no. I don't have a problem with you. I
2:01:18
want you to join my faction. Why?
2:01:23
We've already got a rent two cars, but
2:01:25
we want another. So
2:01:28
then the way that this confrontation
2:01:30
came to an end was
2:01:32
Darby whispered something to J
2:01:34
white and stuck the bat
2:01:37
into J white's neck and J
2:01:39
white acted like that there
2:01:41
was glue on the end of the bat
2:01:43
and he couldn't just back up one half
2:01:45
a step and pull his fucking chin off
2:01:48
the bat. And
2:01:52
Darby said, he did you see that? I
2:01:54
didn't think of it that way. The way
2:01:56
you lay it out is stuck the bat
2:01:58
in his neck. And suddenly J. White couldn't
2:02:00
just go poof and just take it off
2:02:02
his neck. Or his friends right next to
2:02:04
him. And his, and his two friends
2:02:06
were right next to him, to him, allowing him to
2:02:08
be stuck to
2:02:10
a bat. And Darby said, I'll see
2:02:13
you next week. And
2:02:18
all that happened, they have
2:02:20
to do that now a bat covered in glue match.
2:02:26
We're not going to hit you with a bat. We're going to
2:02:28
stick it to you. Oh,
2:02:31
golly. I
2:02:34
don't know. All these, all these people got me
2:02:36
running around like Vic Morrow. I don't know. Oh
2:02:38
come on. That's
2:02:41
awful. Awful. Uh,
2:02:44
I wonder who came up with it. But anyway, so
2:02:47
then the house of Brech
2:02:50
did a dark room
2:02:52
promo with the spooky lighting.
2:02:55
And it looked for, there was
2:02:58
Malachi and Julia
2:03:00
Hart was over on the side looking at his
2:03:02
own, as she can look. And
2:03:04
what are his other two names? Fabian
2:03:07
and Snaben. I forgot what, uh, Brody
2:03:09
King and Buddy. And Buddy Murphy. Yeah.
2:03:11
Well, it looked like a reshoot of
2:03:13
the Bohemian Rhapsody video. Somebody said on
2:03:15
Twitter, they're like, oh, mama mia, mama
2:03:18
mia, mama mia, let me go. Yeah,
2:03:21
mama. And
2:03:23
they're, they're doing a promo about
2:03:25
poor Mark Briscoe that hasn't suffered
2:03:27
enough by this point and
2:03:30
a match that they were going to have on
2:03:32
collision on Saturday night, and then they came out
2:03:34
in, in the back
2:03:36
with Mark Briscoe. And it's an Atlanta
2:03:39
street fight. Cause they're in Atlanta again,
2:03:42
or did they already tape it? Were
2:03:44
they taping it that night? I think they
2:03:46
taped everything Wednesday and Thursday. Good Lord. So
2:03:49
there'll be even fewer people in the audience
2:03:51
by the time they, the Atlanta street fight,
2:03:54
cause they're in Atlanta and
2:03:56
Jay Lethal comes in, bless him. There
2:04:00
that he would have Mark Brisk goes back
2:04:02
and he's going to bring Jeff Jarrett defense.
2:04:05
And. As were Marzano energy of jerked
2:04:07
around a who would you rather
2:04:09
have that another slimy Eve slime
2:04:11
ball slimy fellow. With. Slime.
2:04:16
So Mark is marginalized and on
2:04:18
the B team. And.
2:04:21
Then we were ready for our main events. And.
2:04:23
It was will Ostrich vs Cow
2:04:26
voucher. And. We.
2:04:29
Talked about again. Okay,
2:04:33
If they understood that they made a
2:04:36
mistake by making Ostrich A, he'll put
2:04:38
him in the fall as family. When.
2:04:41
People want to cheer him and they desperately
2:04:43
need baby faces because the only baby faces
2:04:45
they got her their heels. So.
2:04:48
They want to back up on that now that
2:04:50
he's finished with New Japan. A couple months later,
2:04:52
they had the match with. Our
2:04:54
boy Tate. So. That
2:04:56
there could something happen and they
2:04:58
could turn on sell our knob
2:05:01
Ostrich and. You. Know
2:05:03
that he'd be a baby face. He might have a program
2:05:05
that he could start to get over with or whatever. But.
2:05:09
They just have a match between the two of
2:05:11
them. Had to pay per view and then shake
2:05:13
hands and a hug and been. Done.
2:05:15
Phallus announces. Another
2:05:18
match between Ostrich and another
2:05:20
member of his stable. And.
2:05:23
That is this with Mr. Failed Your.
2:05:27
And. There. Is
2:05:29
still unknown. Reason.
2:05:31
That's what I said. No reason given.
2:05:35
For. Having this match or
2:05:37
of why he will he as a as
2:05:39
of. Evil. Manager wants his
2:05:41
gas to fight each other. Rather,
2:05:44
Was the have a great match which makes no sense.
2:05:47
Is. So they have this is the made a bit but.
2:05:51
They've just sand ostrich for what I
2:05:53
assume is. Move millions of
2:05:56
dollars a year like it. Were.
2:05:58
disputing okay as four and
2:06:00
a half million a year, they can certainly can't
2:06:03
be more than two or two and a half.
2:06:05
Tokyo sports is reporting three billion dollars. For
2:06:08
ostrich. Of course. Okay, a billion
2:06:10
a year. But a
2:06:13
point is a lot of money. So you
2:06:16
want to introduce this guy in as
2:06:19
strong and dominant a manner as
2:06:22
possible. So first ego, if your
2:06:25
take was still where they've needed to be pushing
2:06:28
him so they couldn't just
2:06:30
beat him like a fucking flunky because
2:06:32
he will be something somewhere
2:06:34
sometime probably not here. But at
2:06:38
the same time it took will
2:06:41
20 minutes to beat him. So
2:06:43
who are we pushing? And
2:06:46
now they do the same thing. It's
2:06:48
not about what moves the guy can do or
2:06:50
how well he can do them or even how
2:06:52
great a match he can have if you let
2:06:54
him have how great a match get a great
2:06:56
match have or have if a great match ever
2:06:58
can be let have a great match. Not
2:07:02
applicable. You're pushing
2:07:04
the star you just signed. You don't have
2:07:06
him go out and do
2:07:08
everything that he can do to beat
2:07:11
a guy that's been presented as mid-card at
2:07:13
best in 20 minutes and especially when the
2:07:16
guy that's been presented as mid-card at best
2:07:18
doesn't look like Bron Breaker. He looks
2:07:21
like Ball Breaker. 12 years
2:07:24
old in the fucking face with that
2:07:26
fucking fleshy physique at best.
2:07:28
He's got size but he needs in
2:07:31
the gym and ages on his
2:07:34
face to make him look like anybody
2:07:37
that you would want to have going 20
2:07:39
minutes competitively with a guy you're paying a
2:07:41
couple million dollars a year to. Have I
2:07:43
made this point? It's not
2:07:46
what moves a guy can do. It's whether he
2:07:48
should given the
2:07:50
position of his presentation and
2:07:54
with Ostrich's first the
2:07:57
pay-per-view was his first match since he's
2:07:59
been back. It can always wrestled a couple
2:08:01
times on television but on this run. It's.
2:08:04
His first t match, he's starting
2:08:06
a full term contract year. And.
2:08:09
You can't give him some one.
2:08:12
With. Some element of personality.
2:08:15
If you want the people to cheer. Will.
2:08:18
Didn't give you my with personality
2:08:20
and and experience that he can
2:08:22
beat. In. A decisive fashion
2:08:24
showing all of his shit looking
2:08:26
good. But. Not having that much
2:08:28
trouble. Or. If you want him
2:08:30
to be a fork and he'll. Give. Him
2:08:32
a baby face. It fits the same description.
2:08:36
But. Also, that's people know that's been presented
2:08:38
as some level of star and a pastor
2:08:40
some level of talent the past. Into.
2:08:43
It this was good athletic shit. It's
2:08:45
was all modern style wrestling with lots
2:08:47
of the video game stuff. But.
2:08:50
That's not the point. Again
2:08:53
and wouldn't. With. Nobody
2:08:55
to cheer for and nobody to cheer
2:08:57
against. and no reason to have the
2:08:59
match and nothing on the line. And.
2:09:02
A brand new made a better that
2:09:04
needs convincing. Win so that the. Majority.
2:09:07
Of the audience that doesn't know who
2:09:09
the fuck T is might find. Because.
2:09:14
He's been on New Japan Pro
2:09:16
Wrestling on Access. He's.
2:09:18
Been a star on the internet but
2:09:20
he a bit on American television. The.
2:09:22
Telly. You.
2:09:25
Do that You and where the announcers
2:09:27
at that point are telling you why
2:09:29
this guy is at. A. Top
2:09:31
Guy and what his background is
2:09:33
and that he's showing you and
2:09:36
then. He. Does promos and
2:09:38
hopefully tells you how great he
2:09:40
is. And then you
2:09:42
involve him in a competitive situation.
2:09:46
That's. How you start out
2:09:48
a long term. Who.
2:09:50
Push an investment in the money
2:09:53
that you're spending a long term.
2:09:57
You. don't give the people his
2:09:59
goddamn He doesn't meet his
2:10:01
equal in the ring in week three
2:10:03
of a three-year deal. You
2:10:05
fucking morons. And,
2:10:09
but anyway also, um, and,
2:10:12
and let's face it, um, I'm sorry, Mr. Feltier
2:10:14
is never going to be a top guy. It,
2:10:16
well, he will be probably after I'm dead because
2:10:18
it'll take him 10 years in the gym to
2:10:21
work out some kind of fucking look and age
2:10:23
that face to the point where he might've taken
2:10:25
seriously. But also when
2:10:28
they got in the middle of the ring and
2:10:31
started trading shops, I zoned out and
2:10:33
they went to break it two minutes until the
2:10:35
top of the 10 o'clock hour and my DVR
2:10:37
never came back. But
2:10:40
I assume from what I
2:10:42
read on the internet that will
2:10:44
one and nobody fucking broke up with anybody
2:10:46
again. Is that about what happened? That's what
2:10:48
I would happen. I will say I really
2:10:50
liked it. I thought it
2:10:52
was better than the Kekesha match. I
2:10:55
agree with you there. And of course that the Kekesha match
2:10:57
that like six and a
2:11:00
half million stars. Six and seven eights. It was
2:11:02
Dave's hat size since he's a pinhead. I thought
2:11:04
this was good, but to your point, if you
2:11:06
signed someone for main event money with the intention
2:11:08
of treating them as a main event, or you
2:11:10
have to start somewhere and they're not
2:11:12
doing it. And we'll talk about
2:11:14
the rating shortly. They're not
2:11:16
doing it. And Osprey is someone they
2:11:19
should present that way. He's really good and
2:11:21
he's talented and people will like him and
2:11:23
he's a talented heel too, but
2:11:25
this is not whoever suggested this is
2:11:28
the way to just break
2:11:30
them away from the Kalis family or make them a
2:11:32
baby face. Or maybe it'll be like a Prince Nana
2:11:34
thing where Kalis manages him as
2:11:36
a baby face and the rest of the
2:11:38
stable is heels. You never
2:11:40
know with AEW. It's nutty over there, but
2:11:42
I really liked it at the end of
2:11:45
the match. And I will agree with you.
2:11:47
It was better than the, the, the take
2:11:49
match because again,
2:11:51
it seemed like
2:11:53
parts of that thing, they were just
2:11:55
so, so drawn out because
2:11:57
they were trying to have some kind
2:11:59
of. classic, this they had to move a
2:12:01
little more quickly. But these
2:12:03
guys are very athletic and
2:12:06
if they got into
2:12:08
a training program that would teach them
2:12:10
how to think about the business instead
2:12:13
of being indie-minded Marx, I
2:12:15
believe that they could probably do well but
2:12:18
who knows if they're trainable or not. But
2:12:20
otherwise, it's the same shit that
2:12:22
everybody else is doing just like
2:12:24
I said about ostrich and take
2:12:26
the same stuff everybody else is doing, just
2:12:28
more athletic and a little bit better at
2:12:30
it. At the end of the
2:12:32
match, the two opponents embraced because
2:12:35
I think they said that one of them used to live
2:12:37
with the other one when he was struggling. So
2:12:40
they were friends. And there's nothing worse,
2:12:42
there's nothing worse than a breakup and
2:12:45
there's nothing more heartwarming than two
2:12:47
people getting back together after a bitter breakup. Well,
2:12:49
nothing can change the bond between roommates. I mean
2:12:52
they must have had a good time together. Oh,
2:12:54
you mean it was platonic? It
2:12:56
was completely platonic. What the hell were
2:12:58
you saying? They used to live together.
2:13:00
I thought they were preparing. I didn't
2:13:02
know whether they wanted to try it out before they
2:13:04
committed to marriage. That's not what I was saying. Well
2:13:07
listen, they embraced, they're cool, but
2:13:10
then Brian Danielson came out and
2:13:12
now we're going next. Will Ospreay
2:13:14
versus Brian Danielson. Danielson's mad because
2:13:17
his wife told him that hair looks good when he left
2:13:19
the house. I don't know why Danielson
2:13:21
has a problem with anyone. I don't know why
2:13:24
he's been booked as poorly as he has even
2:13:26
for those of you who love his matches. But
2:13:28
that's what we have. Well now what did he do
2:13:30
when he came out? He came out and
2:13:33
he stared. He
2:13:35
made them know that he's paying attention. He sees
2:13:37
them. Now he can't say
2:13:39
he acknowledges them because that would be a trademark
2:13:42
infringement but he notices them. And
2:13:46
obviously with the way he was
2:13:48
staring, he intended it to intimidate
2:13:50
them. Yes,
2:13:52
all five foot six of them.
2:13:54
Yes, well there was an action-packed
2:13:56
ending to that
2:13:58
particular program. And I must
2:14:01
again, I don't know the ebbs and the
2:14:04
flows, the ups and the downs, but I
2:14:06
know enough and
2:14:08
you're going to tell us the rest, but
2:14:10
I know enough to admit a
2:14:13
correction here on the program. I've been
2:14:15
wrong and whenever
2:14:18
I'm proven wrong, I acknowledge that. I think
2:14:20
I've set that track record and
2:14:23
I have been proven wrong again. I'm going to
2:14:25
acknowledge it. I made the statement that
2:14:28
there were 800,000 people in this
2:14:30
country that were going to watch that television
2:14:32
program no matter how bad it sucked. And
2:14:35
I was wrong. And
2:14:38
I apologize. Brian,
2:14:40
what were the ratings for
2:14:42
this episode of AEW Dynamite
2:14:44
from I believe March the 6th?
2:14:46
March the 6th on TBS AEW
2:14:48
Dynamite 8 to 10 pm. Although
2:14:52
it went to 1007. Hold on, let me just
2:14:54
make sure this is the most updated version here.
2:14:56
Yeah, 8 to 10 pm. This is from Wrestlenomics.
2:14:58
779,000 viewers on average.
2:15:00
Ouch! That
2:15:06
is down 5% from last week. The
2:15:09
pay-per-view after the pay-per-view, the
2:15:11
television after the pay-per-view for
2:15:14
the people who didn't get it, what's
2:15:16
going to be said, what's got the
2:15:18
tag titles changed hands, Sting retired. This
2:15:21
guy did that. Not only
2:15:23
no interest bump, but an interest
2:15:25
dip after the pay-per-view. And
2:15:29
again, they have a big episode coming up
2:15:31
this next week from Boston, big business, the
2:15:33
debut of Mercedes Monet. And with
2:15:35
AEW a lot of the issue isn't just getting
2:15:38
a number for someone's debut, it's finding a way to
2:15:40
maintain any of it. But let's
2:15:42
go to this. Once again, these were compiled by
2:15:44
Wrestlenomics. Quarter 1,
2:15:46
8 to 8.15 pm. The
2:15:49
Swerve Shrikland, Samoa Joe,
2:15:52
Adam Cole Live promo. 930,000
2:15:55
viewers. Oh, boy. Though
2:16:00
the sun's gone to the bottom, is
2:16:02
gonna fall out of the market very
2:16:04
soon. Fog strap in. it's gonna be
2:16:07
a bumpy ride. Again, a
2:16:09
minute at least of the Big Bang Theory
2:16:11
To start that off, Quarter.
2:16:13
To Eight Fifteen A Thirty Pm. Samoa,
2:16:17
Joe and Swerve Strickland vs Matt Taylor
2:16:19
and Mike Bennett with picture in picture
2:16:21
ads. The. Chris Jericho
2:16:23
Hook Backstage Angle. And
2:16:26
advice. A recap. And.
2:16:28
The Young Bucks backstage promo. Seven.
2:16:31
Hundred And Eighty Five thousand viewers. Okay,
2:16:33
as and see that's why, Because when
2:16:36
you start with a number like that
2:16:38
and considering the overall average, it had
2:16:40
to plummet and. Boy.
2:16:42
Howdy did it with a hundred
2:16:44
and forty five thousand people in
2:16:46
fifteen minutes that the. Here.
2:16:50
Where we go from here Again, No
2:16:52
star power. Jericho Star power is gone.
2:16:55
They zap that thanks to him. But.
2:16:57
Let's go from here is thirty eight
2:16:59
forty five pm. Quarter. Three.
2:17:03
What's. Worse is Brian Cage with picture
2:17:05
in picture adds. A posts
2:17:07
mass with the mobile embassy and
2:17:09
Jericho. A recap. The.
2:17:11
Orange Cassidy Best Friends Backstage
2:17:14
promo. Seven. Hundred
2:17:16
and ninety two thousand viewers
2:17:18
with. Fluctuation.
2:17:21
Amongst people getting up to go to the
2:17:23
bathroom are coming back from getting a sandwich so
2:17:25
we got seven thousand back. Quarter.
2:17:27
for a forty five nine pm.
2:17:30
Madmen. All Vs Kill switch.
2:17:33
The. Post Match when Nick Wayne
2:17:35
pushing cage Adam Copeland. That
2:17:38
ways, mom. On. The ramp.
2:17:41
Vehicle. Riley backstage promo.
2:17:44
An. Ad break. And. A
2:17:46
Sting video. Seven.
2:17:48
Hundred And Seventy Nine thousand
2:17:50
viewers. So we've we've already.
2:17:54
The Quarter that featured. Age
2:17:58
One of the major. Nobody
2:18:00
W E Stars of the
2:18:02
modern era last. Thirteen.
2:18:05
Thousand viewers from the Pc quarter
2:18:07
Hour that featured a bunch of
2:18:10
these generic. Jobber. Indie.
2:18:12
Guess what? To be fair, the fans didn't know
2:18:14
that as was going to be there. He was
2:18:16
a surprise. I was a surprise to quell as
2:18:18
Sable Yeah, That's true, They.
2:18:20
Thought they if. They. Thought they were to see
2:18:22
in. The. Dinosaur and fuckin'
2:18:25
dip shit. But. There were
2:18:27
other surprises. The. Big nine
2:18:29
o'clock hour. Ninety. Nine Fifteen
2:18:31
Pm Quarter Five. The
2:18:33
Young Bucks live promo. Their.
2:18:36
Confrontation with Eddie Kingston. The.
2:18:38
Debut of Okada. And
2:18:41
the start of Rio versus that
2:18:43
lander. Eight. Hundred
2:18:45
and sixty five thousand viewers.
2:18:48
Also. The high point in the key demo. Four.
2:18:51
Hundred and Eleven Thousand. So.
2:18:54
Taking everything into account is
2:18:57
and they haven't lately been
2:18:59
doing. A bump at the top
2:19:01
of the nine o'clock hour, but in this case they
2:19:03
added. Know Antonio Eighty
2:19:06
six thousand people. Is.
2:19:09
That is as they can do. They knew
2:19:11
the. Announcement was going to
2:19:13
be Okada because we do Okada was
2:19:15
signing. Or. Is was that the
2:19:18
for? In other words, did. Because.
2:19:20
They brought oh caught out as a surprise, but
2:19:22
then they kept going in that quarter, I'm wondering
2:19:24
if it can. If
2:19:26
the people suddenly called around to their friends,
2:19:28
old cat is out there. Are
2:19:31
having a lot of a lot of a to his. I.
2:19:33
Tried to show for a few minutes or come
2:19:35
back. After. The show I went to instead
2:19:38
ends and ends and nine o'clock to go see what's
2:19:40
going on on the other channel. More.
2:19:42
Of the normal audience may have just said
2:19:44
well it's it's you know. Will check back
2:19:46
in. Was. never there
2:19:48
but nevertheless that's the you know is pretty
2:19:50
obvious they wanted to what was going to
2:19:53
go on with okada if that is indeed
2:19:55
the broad the situation we go from there
2:19:57
to quarter six nine fifteen and nine thirty
2:19:59
pm the continuation of Reho
2:20:01
vs. Statlander with Picture in Picture,
2:20:04
the Tony Storm Mariah May backstage
2:20:07
promo, an ad break, and
2:20:09
Willow Nightingale's backstage promo, 726,000
2:20:12
viewers. Oh
2:20:15
jeez, and then 139,000 people said, Fuck,
2:20:20
we missed Okada. Oh
2:20:24
god, Joe Biden. They
2:20:26
lost everybody that they got,
2:20:28
plus another fucking 57,000. They
2:20:32
came back at the 9 o'clock hour to see what was
2:20:34
there to hold them, and it didn't
2:20:36
come. It didn't happen. We
2:20:39
go from there to quarters 7, 930 to 945 pm, the
2:20:43
Darby Allen promo in confrontation with Jay
2:20:45
White, the Julia Hart
2:20:47
backstage promo, the wind is blowing
2:20:50
in the background, I don't know if anyone could
2:20:52
hear that. Oh boy. The House
2:20:54
of Black... House of Back. The House
2:20:56
of Black backstage promo. Oh
2:20:59
mamma mia, mamma mia. There was an
2:21:01
ad break and also the Mark Briscoe
2:21:03
Jay Lethal backstage angle, 747,000
2:21:05
viewers. Good
2:21:09
lord, they actually aimed... They
2:21:12
actually added people for
2:21:14
backstage malarkey.
2:21:18
And finally, Jim, quarter 8, I remind you we have a
2:21:20
7 minute overrun. Quarter
2:21:23
8, 945 to 10 pm. Will
2:21:27
Ospreay versus Kyle Fletcher with picture
2:21:29
in picture twice. 654,000
2:21:32
viewers. Oh!
2:21:36
7 minute overrun including post-match confrontation
2:21:38
with Brian Danielson. 676,000 viewers.
2:21:43
Final quarter did 306 in the key
2:21:45
demo. They drove away
2:21:47
those fans too. Oh boy.
2:21:49
Cause it was a match
2:21:51
for no reason with nobody.
2:21:54
If you didn't want to see guys do
2:21:56
moves, then they gave you
2:21:58
no other reason to watch. Watch it. And
2:22:03
they think they're delivering good stories.
2:22:05
That's the sickness. That's the
2:22:08
problem. They think they're delivering good stories. The
2:22:10
people who defend them will say, how could
2:22:12
you say they have those stories? The stories
2:22:14
are great. The stories suck and no one
2:22:16
gives a shit. People tune out. This kid
2:22:18
that dresses up like a guy in this
2:22:20
video game is gonna fight that kid dressed
2:22:22
up like the guy in that video game
2:22:24
and boy you ought to see the way
2:22:26
that they catch each other's foot and boost each
2:22:28
other up in the air so they can
2:22:30
land on their feet. What
2:22:32
the... Let's do
2:22:34
our exercise. Hey, one other thing on this
2:22:37
before we wrap things up because several
2:22:39
listeners sent this in so let's just address this
2:22:41
quickly. Okay. Will
2:22:43
Osprey tweeted out March
2:22:46
8th. When is the 8th?
2:22:48
That was Friday. And thus, my
2:22:51
first tour under the AEW banner has come to
2:22:53
an end. Thank
2:22:55
you so much for such an overwhelming response.
2:22:58
To everyone backstage, thank
2:23:00
you so much for allowing me into the home you've
2:23:02
built. What the... I will cherish
2:23:05
this place and treat it as my own.
2:23:08
I'm banged up bad, but my
2:23:10
foot is still on the gas pedal. But
2:23:13
now I'm gonna get on this flight home to my
2:23:15
beautiful Mrs. and stepson and enjoy the
2:23:17
fruits of my labor. I
2:23:20
believe in AEW. Oh
2:23:23
my god. And by the way, for the record after this
2:23:25
caused a bit of an outcry, he had to tweet out
2:23:27
later on, also guys, I'll be back
2:23:29
Tuesday for work, don't worry. Because
2:23:31
people were afraid that he wasn't coming back. That's
2:23:33
the thing is, what if he was
2:23:36
here from fucking Saturday till goddamn Wednesday?
2:23:38
Now my tour, my first tour is
2:23:40
over. It was a
2:23:42
cold winter. I feared at
2:23:45
one point the Tories may have been
2:23:47
able to emerge triumphant but fortunately, as
2:23:49
we dug into the trenches, the cannons
2:23:52
arrived from General Farquhar. My first
2:23:54
tour, also known as Two Days in
2:23:56
Duluth. the
2:24:00
pay-per-view and the
2:24:02
goddamn TV taping on Wednesday, right? And
2:24:05
Thursday. They did
2:24:07
one Thursday. I think so. Yeah. So
2:24:10
they didn't tape all of the collision stuff
2:24:12
within on the Wednesday night taping
2:24:14
with 3000 people there. They came back
2:24:16
the next night with less people. Uh,
2:24:19
let's see. They taped dynamite. I
2:24:22
don't have anything here for collision. They
2:24:25
taped dynamite and
2:24:27
rampage. The collision was taped
2:24:29
the next day. How many
2:24:32
people did they have? Oh, we
2:24:34
already said that. That was a. No, no.
2:24:36
There was two nights they had 3200 or
2:24:38
whatever. Wednesday night
2:24:40
for dynamite. What about for collision
2:24:42
on Thursday night? Well,
2:24:45
collision the next night, same, uh, gas
2:24:47
out there. Uh, area, gas south arena,
2:24:49
Duluth, Georgia. It's a gassy area. There's
2:24:51
a lot of waffle houses. Where the
2:24:53
gas south gang, you better watch out.
2:24:56
Uh, at that point in time, I don't know if these
2:24:58
are the final numbers, but tickets distributed were 2,166. Oh, good
2:25:04
Lord. All right. And for
2:25:06
the record that building, the gas south arena
2:25:09
capacity is listed as 13,000, but
2:25:12
I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's
2:25:14
for basketball or not. So that changes things. Well, no,
2:25:17
that, uh, a capacity for an
2:25:19
arena will always be listed as the amount
2:25:21
of permanent seats. And
2:25:24
if you put ringside or for concerts
2:25:27
on the floor, that's, that's extra. Then
2:25:29
there's a capacity for fire. You know,
2:25:31
that you can't have over such and
2:25:33
such people in the building, but they generally list an
2:25:35
arena capacity by the permanent seats for a show with nothing
2:25:41
on the floor, but a court or whatever. But nevertheless,
2:25:45
that's a fucking
2:25:47
very small number of people for a very big
2:25:49
building for two nights in
2:25:51
a row. The, the,
2:25:55
the, the
2:25:57
tickets distributed were 5,000 over
2:25:59
the two nights. and the capacity of the building
2:26:01
twice is almost 30,000. So
2:26:03
you can end up both nights. It still isn't
2:26:05
even SmackDown. It's not
2:26:08
even halfway. So there you go there. But
2:26:11
nevertheless, let's do one thing. Let's do
2:26:14
the, our exercise and then move on
2:26:16
from these ratings and take the ratings
2:26:18
and drop the first quarter and drop
2:26:21
the overrun that are artificial numbers and
2:26:23
take the seven
2:26:25
in between quarters and see what the fuck
2:26:27
the average is now. We're
2:26:30
the only people that do this honest
2:26:32
to God, real, uh, factoring
2:26:35
in of things. Divided
2:26:39
by seven. Yeah. I
2:26:41
carry the two 764,000 viewers, seven hundred. So
2:26:46
they got an artificial
2:26:48
bump of 15,000 on their
2:26:50
total by having the overrun and
2:26:52
the artificial first quarter with the
2:26:54
big bang minute. Well,
2:26:58
there you go. Every little
2:27:00
bit helps when the team is in need,
2:27:02
Brian, every little bit helps when the team
2:27:04
is in need, but you know what I'm
2:27:06
thinking just off the top
2:27:08
of my head, Brian last that the
2:27:11
AEW talent roster before
2:27:14
they're tough enough to whoop up on the,
2:27:17
the head of the table and the
2:27:19
board of directors and the American nightmare
2:27:22
and all those other big stars over
2:27:24
on the other channel, they're going
2:27:26
to have to eat a lot more of their meat and
2:27:28
potatoes as mama cornet used to say. They're going to have
2:27:30
to get out. They're going to have to clean
2:27:33
their plates and they're going to have to work
2:27:35
hard to get big and bad enough to
2:27:37
fight the big boys, aren't they? I
2:27:40
mean, there's a chance Tony would pay for these
2:27:42
meals. Yeah. Well, but you know,
2:27:45
there's a chance that Tony will pay for anything
2:27:47
until finally Tony's so broke,
2:27:49
he won't be able to pay attention, but I'll
2:27:51
tell you folks, if you're getting tired of paying
2:27:53
high prices for, for rotten meals,
2:27:56
and you want to pay to lower prices
2:27:58
for those rotten meals. Or if
2:28:01
you're getting tired of just eating direct and
2:28:03
fast food garbage that's bad for you, that's going
2:28:06
to give you some kind of horrible cancerous
2:28:09
growth on your body or it's
2:28:11
gonna poison your innards and your
2:28:13
insides or it's going to give you some
2:28:15
kind of leprosy on your skin because all
2:28:17
this modern food is just horrible for you.
2:28:20
Or if
2:28:22
your hurry-scurry existence that you live
2:28:24
in, the hustle and bustle of
2:28:26
your world is too busy, for
2:28:28
you to be able to go in that kitchen
2:28:30
and concoct the
2:28:33
oysters Rockefeller from scratch and
2:28:35
make the sauces and
2:28:37
the gravies in the various puddings
2:28:40
of the world. Snappy pappy. Snappy
2:28:42
pappies. If you don't have time
2:28:44
for all that, you
2:28:46
need to talk to our friends at
2:28:48
Factor because eating
2:28:50
has never been easier and
2:28:53
eating better has never been
2:28:55
easier. It's never been easy for me. Pimping
2:28:57
was easy, but eating better was not. But
2:29:00
Factor's delicious, ready-to-eat
2:29:02
meals. They put everything in there.
2:29:05
I mean, they put the main course, they could
2:29:08
put the sides. The only
2:29:10
thing they don't put in is the
2:29:12
bill with the tip for the server because
2:29:14
you're just popping this stuff in the oven
2:29:16
or the microwave. Boom! It's ready
2:29:18
to go in just two minutes. Like
2:29:21
Lauren Boebert, you'll have over
2:29:24
35 different options to choose from. Every
2:29:28
week of the calendar year, including they got
2:29:30
the calorie smart line, the protein plus line,
2:29:32
the keto line. Now I'll tell you some
2:29:35
of the fine dinners that we had over
2:29:37
here at the castle. We
2:29:39
had the roasted garlic chicken with
2:29:41
green beans and sour cream and the
2:29:44
onion mashed potatoes. We had
2:29:46
the red pepper queso chicken with
2:29:49
brown rice and who can forget the
2:29:51
ever-popular Parmesan and
2:29:53
sun-dried tomato chicken penny with
2:29:56
the roasted green beans and the pearl
2:29:58
onions. Well
2:30:00
you say P'nay and I say P'ni and
2:30:02
we ate it just the same. You don't
2:30:04
have to be able to pronounce it to
2:30:06
eat it and that's what
2:30:09
you must do. You must eat these factor meals because
2:30:11
they've got everything take care of you all day.
2:30:13
They got breakfast, they got smoothies,
2:30:15
they got midday bites and
2:30:18
once again a chef
2:30:20
has approved this and you
2:30:22
know those cooks, boy I'll tell you what, you
2:30:25
slip them something under the table, they'll get into
2:30:27
anything but a chef has approved this and
2:30:30
a dietician and
2:30:32
whatever they do. Apparently the dieticians
2:30:35
are the ones that craft the diet plans
2:30:38
that you can't stick to. No the
2:30:40
dieticians they work with are the ones who help craft
2:30:42
the right meals with the right caloric
2:30:44
intake and all that stuff. Well that's
2:30:47
exactly what the caloric intake is, what
2:30:49
the dietitian is all about and they'll
2:30:51
control this stuff and you'll be surprised
2:30:54
what you'll find when you look
2:30:56
at the various ingredients you're not gonna find
2:30:58
things like sewer sludge and
2:31:01
motor oil, you're gonna find good quality
2:31:04
real food ingredients in these items and
2:31:07
again they're ready to heat up you could
2:31:09
just run a candle under them shine a
2:31:11
flashlight on them it'll get warm enough. Eat
2:31:13
some things rare every once in a while.
2:31:15
There's no mess if you eat
2:31:18
the whole thing you got nothing left. Just
2:31:20
throw the dish away. So
2:31:22
no prepping, no cooking, no cleanup.
2:31:25
Well you can spend all your time
2:31:27
getting a second or even a third job
2:31:29
or discovering a cure for cancer and
2:31:32
they have figured out Brian
2:31:34
mathematically that factor meals
2:31:37
are less expensive than takeout and
2:31:40
every meal of course dietitian approved
2:31:42
to be nutritious and delicious. So
2:31:44
the dietitians also are
2:31:47
the ones adjudicating the taste value
2:31:49
of these meals that's their job and
2:31:52
you folks can head to factormeals.com right now
2:31:57
And use the code JCE50. And
2:32:00
you're going to get fifty percent off. Whatever.
2:32:03
You order it again. The.
2:32:05
Meals for all throughout the day if you're
2:32:07
if you're conscious in the morning, a breakfast.
2:32:10
If. You're more alert and evening a dead
2:32:12
head. Go. Crazy In a two
2:32:14
meals in one day, you can handle
2:32:17
the strain. But. As are all
2:32:19
just wrapped up and boxed up and waiting for you.
2:32:21
Don't have to lift a finger job. Where you do
2:32:23
have to lift a finger, you gotta pick up a
2:32:25
fork. In. Less you want to be
2:32:27
a savage and eat with your hands. Stick
2:32:29
your face in the goddamn tray. Of
2:32:32
factor meals, the just grazed like
2:32:34
a fucking bovine. Sabri.
2:32:36
The best thing, but nevertheless wouldn't be the best
2:32:38
thing. Know it would not. Well. But
2:32:41
you're going to eat these eggs one
2:32:43
where the other other issues especially as
2:32:45
utensils. Like civilized people. Yes,
2:32:47
And finish your plate because there are
2:32:50
there is people coming by to inspect
2:32:52
afterwards to make sure. There's.
2:32:54
Hungry people in Bolivia somewhere Cj
2:32:56
be wasting food. But.
2:32:58
Anyway, right now. Factor.
2:33:01
meals.com/j C E
2:33:03
Fifty. Use. That
2:33:05
Koji see fifty to get fifty
2:33:07
percent off. If you want to
2:33:10
give one to your kids, let him fight over
2:33:12
it. If you get more than one kid, you're
2:33:14
given him one meal. Well and good. Get em
2:33:16
competitive early, but just share it with the whole
2:33:18
family. Factor. meals.com/j C
2:33:21
E Fifty. Fifty.
2:33:23
Percent off the choice or they can be cost.
2:33:25
Of the food that you choose. To.
2:33:28
Feed yourself and your loved ones. That's.
2:33:31
Right. softer. Once. Again,
2:33:34
or were you just gave the promo code?
2:33:36
do But it is The which is all
2:33:38
Id Grilled chicken with sweet potato mash and
2:33:40
cornyn. It's. Just I like
2:33:42
the penny. And. The Penny.
2:33:45
Gyms. A fan of the General. Quit or before we
2:33:47
move on. Here's. The line of for
2:33:50
collision I didn't watch. Oh. The.
2:33:52
House A Blast vs. Jeff Jarrett. Markers go
2:33:54
on. Jay Lethal in in Atlanta Street Fight.
2:33:57
oh good lord as it does it's Say
2:34:00
what happened, tell me that Jeff Jarrett
2:34:02
didn't turn on Mark Briscoe. I don't
2:34:04
have the results, only the lineup. Well,
2:34:07
we'll find. I'm sure it'll be all over the news. I
2:34:09
can pull up the results if you want on the second
2:34:11
match that you didn't see Jim. Mestico
2:34:14
versus Angelico. Well
2:34:18
now, so Mestico wasn't involved
2:34:20
in the visa fiasco. Is
2:34:23
that he's still in the country or are they just
2:34:25
using his mask and putting it on some guy like
2:34:27
Nick Goulis used to do? You
2:34:31
don't know? I was on
2:34:33
mute. I know that I was on mute. Now
2:34:35
AEW would never do that. That's a WWE thing. They
2:34:38
would never hide or pretend someone was
2:34:40
the actual masked superstar or not the
2:34:43
masked superstar, but a superstar that is masked.
2:34:45
The superstar that would be masked. That's right.
2:34:48
When Nick Goulis had the interns or the
2:34:50
mighty Yankees or some masked team on top
2:34:54
and he would book him in like two or
2:34:56
three different towns and whoever the biggest advance was
2:34:58
would get the real ones. Alright,
2:35:00
I have here the rest of the matches Jim. Yes. Brian,
2:35:04
I actually have the results it looks like. In
2:35:06
the main event, the House of Black won the
2:35:08
six-man tag street fight over Briscoe,
2:35:10
Ethan, and Jarrett. Brian
2:35:12
Danielson defeated Shane
2:35:14
Taylor. Afterwards,
2:35:16
he was confronted by Will Ospreay. And
2:35:20
stared at. That's right. Also,
2:35:23
Angelico tapped out to Mestico.
2:35:27
Chris Jericho defeated Titan. The
2:35:31
Gates of Agony then attacked Chris
2:35:33
Jericho after the match. But
2:35:35
Hook made the save. Also,
2:35:38
Mariah May pinned Trish Adoro. Deanna
2:35:41
Parrazzo attacked Tony Storm. It
2:35:43
was DDT'd by May. FTR
2:35:46
announced they would be in the tag title tournament.
2:35:49
And also the Elite. Avocada
2:35:51
and the Young Bucks defeated
2:35:53
Liam Gray. Adrian
2:35:55
Alanis and John
2:35:57
Cruz. Adrian Alanis and John Cruz defeated
2:35:59
Adrian. Adrian Alanis.
2:36:04
So they just threw that out
2:36:06
there. His first TV match, his
2:36:08
first six-man tag with his partners
2:36:12
in douchebaggery with no promotion,
2:36:14
no advance notice against job
2:36:16
guys for what purpose?
2:36:21
Tony Kemp. Tony Kemp
2:36:23
book. And I've been
2:36:26
saying that some people are out there. They're gonna
2:36:28
be saying well Cornette keeps saying give them easy
2:36:30
matches to show their shit. When
2:36:33
you sign a multi-million dollar guy also
2:36:35
advertise it ahead of time. And
2:36:38
don't put these fucking leeches in
2:36:40
the match either. Let him show
2:36:42
what he can do against some
2:36:44
quality opponent in an advertised debut
2:36:48
so the people might tune in. Hey
2:36:54
Hey Is that all you
2:36:56
got there? That's all I got. Cuz
2:36:58
I got something and I bet you I bet you know
2:37:00
what I got but I bet the people don't know what
2:37:03
I got but I'm gonna tell them what I got right
2:37:05
now. Would you like to
2:37:07
hear what I got? What you got? I
2:37:09
got an interview with somebody. And
2:37:12
we're gonna play it here in a second because
2:37:14
folks as you may know it's been in all
2:37:16
the papers the season five of
2:37:18
Dark Side of the Ring has debuted
2:37:22
premiered on Vice
2:37:24
TV. It's still around folks. They
2:37:26
haven't taken it away from us yet. Tuesday
2:37:29
nights at 10 o'clock Eastern time. There's
2:37:31
gonna be 10 episodes this season. We
2:37:33
just talked about on the
2:37:36
drive-thru a couple of days ago. The debut
2:37:38
was on Earthquake John Tenta and today,
2:37:42
well actually not today because this is
2:37:44
a previously recorded conversation, but I
2:37:46
was able to catch up on
2:37:48
the phone with Evan Husney
2:37:50
who along with Jason Eisner are the
2:37:53
producer director and creative forces behind Dark
2:37:55
Side of the Ring and we talked
2:37:58
about the various episodes. episodes this season,
2:38:00
including the ones that I'm going to be a
2:38:03
part of. So Brian, if you have the ability
2:38:06
to punch the button and get that queued
2:38:08
up, we will now go to
2:38:11
the interview that I conducted, because he's a busy
2:38:13
man. Had to get him when I could, day
2:38:16
before yesterday on the phone with
2:38:18
Evan Husney. All righty.
2:38:20
We have made the connection and once again
2:38:23
joining us, the one of
2:38:25
the major domos of the Dark Side of
2:38:27
the Ring series. I can never remember producer,
2:38:29
director, you guys do everything. You're literally twin
2:38:32
sons of different mothers, but we got one
2:38:34
half of them. The other
2:38:36
one is temporarily on assignment
2:38:38
with Walter Cronkite, but welcome back to the
2:38:40
program, Evan Husney. Oh, thanks so much, Jim.
2:38:42
That's another year, another season. It's great to
2:38:45
be back talking to you about it. So
2:38:47
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. And
2:38:50
of course, we're just, we're making fun
2:38:52
of Jason Eisner. He's not really on,
2:38:54
on assignment with Walter Cronkite because Walter
2:38:56
Cronkite has been dead for 40 years,
2:38:58
but nevertheless, you
2:39:02
know, I hate that we couldn't work out
2:39:04
on our schedules. Everything's been so crazy, but
2:39:06
the folks have already seen
2:39:09
the season five premiere
2:39:11
episode on Earthquake
2:39:13
John Tenta. And boy, and that was
2:39:15
such a sad story again, because he
2:39:17
was such a nice guy and, and
2:39:20
Brian and I are going to be discussing more.
2:39:22
It's at some point, I don't know where we
2:39:25
are in time here, but you
2:39:27
know, this was one of the, the
2:39:29
examples of a kinder, gentler,
2:39:31
dark side of the ring.
2:39:34
Because even though this was a sad
2:39:37
story, it was about a swell guy, as
2:39:39
they used to say, and it had a
2:39:41
lot of uplifting principle
2:39:43
to it. It was, he was not,
2:39:47
he was not his own worst enemy as some
2:39:49
of your subjects are. So that had to be
2:39:51
kind of a more,
2:39:55
what's the word I'm searching for, a more
2:39:58
cathartic episode to do to have some. good
2:40:00
feelings come out. Yeah.
2:40:02
I mean, when I was a kid, I was a
2:40:05
big earthquake fan and I was a fan of all
2:40:07
the big men of the eighties wrestling. When I was
2:40:09
a kid, uh, BAM BAM, Bigelow, the
2:40:11
natural disasters, et cetera, et cetera. But
2:40:14
this was definitely a subject I never really
2:40:16
thought would be a fit for the
2:40:19
show or considered until recently when
2:40:21
we were kind of doing a thought experiment on
2:40:23
other types of different episodes. Could we sort of
2:40:25
expand what the type of the scope of what
2:40:27
we're looking at for the series and
2:40:31
when we kind of were like,
2:40:33
whoa, what about John Tenta? And I remembered a
2:40:35
friend of mine, Mike Lawrence, he's
2:40:37
a, he's a comedian and he's also a
2:40:39
comedy writer. He suggested it to me and
2:40:42
gave me this backstory on John Tenta that I didn't
2:40:44
really know. I didn't know. I mean, I knew he
2:40:46
was a sumo wrestler in Japan, but I didn't know
2:40:48
to the extent. Um, and
2:40:51
just this kind of fascinating background in which
2:40:53
he, how he came into the wrestling business.
2:40:56
And, um, uh, he
2:40:58
intimated that there was kind of a very
2:41:00
emotional family story there. And I
2:41:02
remember when we sort of as a thought
2:41:04
experiment, we're like, okay, what does this look
2:41:06
like? And we started to reach out to his
2:41:08
family and speak to them. We just kind of
2:41:10
fell in love with them, to be quite honest.
2:41:13
Yeah. They're, they're just such likable, amazing people. And
2:41:15
they are the heroes of this episode. And
2:41:17
that just really resonated with us in just a
2:41:19
huge way. The fact that, you know, he is
2:41:22
this, you know, John Tenta was a gentle giant.
2:41:24
He had that side to him, but he also
2:41:26
was this, you know, monstrous heel, you know, in
2:41:28
the eighties WWF. So there's that contrast, but in
2:41:31
all honesty, it was just kind of really
2:41:33
just loving the hell out of his family and
2:41:35
just wanting to do this episode. They were very
2:41:37
excited about it. And, um, I
2:41:39
thought it was just a chance for us just to give,
2:41:42
um, just a, for, for fans
2:41:44
to see a different side of him. Maybe they
2:41:46
didn't know his real story or what a great
2:41:48
guy he was. And I think
2:41:50
it was like 10 or so years ago
2:41:52
when his son posted this amazing photo on,
2:41:55
uh, social media of John
2:41:57
Tenta laying on this couch with his kids playing game
2:41:59
ball. And that just like, just
2:42:02
really hit home for me like, wow, like
2:42:04
that says everything. What a great dude. You
2:42:06
know? And so. His,
2:42:09
like you said, his family, his
2:42:12
wife and his daughter
2:42:14
was so cheerful at his sons. They're
2:42:18
like central casting for
2:42:20
normal people that you just like because they're
2:42:22
camera friendly even though they're normal. And
2:42:25
they were just so pleasant.
2:42:27
And the, I knew,
2:42:29
you know, most of John's
2:42:31
background and, you know, especially in the
2:42:33
mid eighties when, you
2:42:35
know, we were all able to finally get
2:42:37
the Japanese video tapes in the mail and
2:42:40
blah, blah, blah. And had seen him before
2:42:42
he became earthquake and knew the Sumo background
2:42:44
also. But the thing
2:42:46
that I was astonished.
2:42:49
I never realized I'm older than he
2:42:51
was. Because, and I
2:42:53
get, because he was so, he's like Dennis Condrey.
2:42:56
People say Dennis Condrey looked like he was 40 since
2:42:58
he was 20. But
2:43:01
I get because of he went bald
2:43:03
prematurely and just, he was big and
2:43:05
had that, you
2:43:07
know, you would have thought that he,
2:43:10
but he was only what, 24 years old would
2:43:12
have 25 or whatever. He's working
2:43:14
with Hogan. And
2:43:16
it was just amazing. Insane, yeah. Like
2:43:19
that's definitely that era of wrestler
2:43:21
is something, man, I
2:43:23
really miss to be quite frank.
2:43:26
It's wrestlers who just looked
2:43:29
and were, you know, looked many years older than
2:43:31
they actually were. I don't know how else to
2:43:33
put it that way. Like grown adults even when
2:43:35
they weren't grown adults. Well, and to
2:43:37
think, it also has contributed to his athletic ability.
2:43:43
And of course he had, you know, played
2:43:45
sports in school, but when
2:43:47
he debuted
2:43:50
in Japan until the time that he was
2:43:52
working on top in the WWF wasn't two
2:43:55
or three years. And for a guy that size
2:43:57
to be able to like Yoko Zuna. an
2:44:00
amazing natural athlete for a guy that
2:44:02
has to be able to move it
2:44:04
in a controlled way to
2:44:06
not kill people in that fashion.
2:44:09
You know, there was amazing
2:44:12
natural inclination toward being able to learn how to
2:44:14
work at that stage of the game. But yeah.
2:44:17
And one, one, one last thing too, I forgot to
2:44:19
mention about it was when we did the episode, like
2:44:21
I said, we, we did it out of just, you
2:44:24
know, being so enamored with, uh, tent
2:44:26
as family, but when we did the interviews
2:44:28
and they came back and we're watching and
2:44:30
we're piecing together the episode, we're like, holy
2:44:33
crap, this is one of the most heartbreaking
2:44:35
episodes we've ever put together. Who would have
2:44:37
thunk it? You know, and, um, you
2:44:39
know, a lot, I just, you know, a lot of people
2:44:42
may think it's not quite a fit for the show, but
2:44:44
I have to, I have
2:44:46
to say that I think it's pretty
2:44:48
dark, you know, when someone who's so
2:44:50
beloved and does so, and it's
2:44:52
such a strong connection with their family has taken away
2:44:54
from them. I almost can't even think of anything darker,
2:44:56
you know? And so, uh, you
2:44:59
know, but it, but it does also shine a
2:45:01
light on the fact that, you
2:45:03
know, what a great person he was. And, um,
2:45:05
and it is sad to think about that. Nobody,
2:45:07
you know, from the business was there, you know,
2:45:09
in his final days. And
2:45:11
the fact that after his wrestling career faded,
2:45:13
he had to work retail and things like
2:45:15
that, you know, those are things I didn't
2:45:17
know. Yeah. Well, I did not know that
2:45:19
as well, that it got to that point
2:45:21
where he not only was working retail, but
2:45:23
he had another job doing, what was it?
2:45:25
A truck driver. Truck driver. Can you imagine,
2:45:27
you know, sitting there at
2:45:29
the grocery and a truck pulls up
2:45:31
with the produce and it's earthquake driving it.
2:45:34
Yeah. That's wild. But, uh,
2:45:37
but yeah, you know, and that's also
2:45:39
with a show like this or a
2:45:41
topic subject like this, it's a way
2:45:43
for you to actually tell the story
2:45:45
of somebody that deserves to have their
2:45:48
story told while still fitting in
2:45:51
some, you know, aspect with your
2:45:53
motif, because with a lot of the episodes, and we'll
2:45:55
get to those here in one second, it's,
2:45:58
you know, there's always some. element of, yes,
2:46:01
this is tragic, but boy, so and so
2:46:03
brought it on themselves. But
2:46:06
this was not the case here. But
2:46:08
who are, let's talk about some of
2:46:11
the folks that were, of course, Tuesday
2:46:13
nights at 10 o'clock Eastern on Vice
2:46:17
TV. And if you're not in Eastern time, then
2:46:19
do your math. I can't do it for you.
2:46:23
But that's where we're going to see Dark Side
2:46:25
of the Ring for the following next nine weeks.
2:46:27
We got nine more episodes to go. Who's on
2:46:29
tap? Well, the
2:46:31
second episode of season five is
2:46:34
going to be another episode I never would have thought we
2:46:36
would have done. That might
2:46:38
be a theme here, but
2:46:40
is Buff Bagwell. And,
2:46:44
you know, obviously, growing up right
2:46:47
in the pocket of 90s, you
2:46:49
know, WCW, NWO, definitely
2:46:51
obviously remember him as a fixture of the
2:46:54
NWO at one of the arrogant heels of
2:46:56
that group. And I'd
2:46:58
heard rumblings of his story. Obviously, he's
2:47:00
had some, you know, challenges
2:47:03
with addiction and, you
2:47:06
know, crashed his car several times.
2:47:08
Trials and tribulations. Trials and tribulations.
2:47:11
Yeah, exactly. And, you know,
2:47:13
you hear about that stuff and then you
2:47:15
heard, you know, his post-wrestling career
2:47:18
was sort of being a
2:47:20
male escort. Well, gigolo, male
2:47:22
gigolo. Yeah. And appearing on
2:47:24
reality TV shows of the,
2:47:26
you know, involving that. But
2:47:29
I have to be honest with you, I
2:47:31
was someone who was very dubious if this
2:47:33
would be a fit for
2:47:35
the show and admittedly, you
2:47:37
know, probably wrongfully. And but
2:47:39
when we started filming this and
2:47:42
getting the interviews of some of the
2:47:44
people that, you know, his family, ex-wives,
2:47:48
childhood friends, I'm
2:47:51
going to go on a limb and say it's some of
2:47:53
the craziest stories we've ever captured on for any of the
2:47:55
episodes. Well, that's what I was about to say. For people
2:47:57
who may say, well, Buff Bagwell,
2:47:59
you... used to be my favorite wrestler. Now I'll
2:48:01
come to think of it. Nobody's ever said that, but
2:48:03
for people who say, but
2:48:06
Bagwell, the outside the ring
2:48:08
stuff that wasn't on television, it has a
2:48:10
lot more potential for entertainment than some of
2:48:12
the stuff that was on television. Doesn't it?
2:48:15
Oh my God. Well, one
2:48:17
of the things that I did not know
2:48:19
going into this was that there was a
2:48:22
domestic altercation before Buff got
2:48:24
into the wrestling business. There
2:48:27
was a huge altercation between his dad
2:48:29
and his mom, Judy Bagwell, of course,
2:48:31
who would actually become a
2:48:33
part of the wrestling business later on.
2:48:35
Who would later on become a noted
2:48:37
pole sitter. Yeah, right. Exactly. And WCW.
2:48:41
But there was a huge altercation between his
2:48:43
mom and his dad and, you know, a
2:48:45
young Buff, he was scared. He went and
2:48:47
grabbed a fucking gun and shot his dad.
2:48:50
Um, did he not know? Did
2:48:52
you know this? I was not aware of this
2:48:55
one. He shot his dad,
2:48:57
his dad survived and
2:48:59
he's actually in the episode. Um,
2:49:02
and they both talk about this, you know,
2:49:04
very defining moment in their personal history and
2:49:06
they were able to obviously, you know, come
2:49:08
together in the end, but it's just the,
2:49:11
the environment that Buff grew up in,
2:49:13
uh, cause he did grow up
2:49:15
pretty much, you know, like
2:49:17
his family was in, in, in the
2:49:19
Georgia area where they grew up, they
2:49:21
were known to everybody. They had a
2:49:23
lot of money. They had a very
2:49:26
successful family business and a
2:49:28
lot of it came crashing down and it just
2:49:30
sounded the insanity of what was going on in
2:49:32
that household is on like a 10. So
2:49:35
that I didn't know. So all that stuff is going to
2:49:37
be a surprise to everybody. Uh,
2:49:39
obviously, you know, his run-ins with the law,
2:49:41
his, his, uh, his problems with addiction, and
2:49:44
of course the male escort
2:49:46
era of his, uh, career and his, and
2:49:48
he does have a redemption. And you can
2:49:50
tell that a lot of people really care
2:49:52
about him. They want the best for him
2:49:55
and want to see the, you know, the, you know, want
2:49:57
to see the best for him. And, um, and I, and
2:49:59
now. in terms of where he's at in life.
2:50:02
Um, it seems like he's come out the other
2:50:04
side. So there is a redemptive quality to the
2:50:07
story, but this is a roller coaster ride of
2:50:09
an episode, I will say. I, I always thought
2:50:11
that the handsome stranger never got a chance to
2:50:13
get over. Uh,
2:50:15
that gimmick could have been WrestleMania
2:50:17
main event worthy. Well,
2:50:20
the American males too. And, and,
2:50:22
uh, him with, uh,
2:50:24
Scotty Riggs, um, and who's
2:50:26
also in the episode. Well, actually
2:50:28
those gimmicks actually did stand a
2:50:30
chance, but did you study the
2:50:32
handsome stranger era? Think he
2:50:34
gets a mention. I think he gets a mention in
2:50:37
there. Um, it, I think
2:50:39
between, it was a
2:50:41
collaboration, I think between Joe Petasino and
2:50:43
Burt Prentice, that gimmick, he was masked
2:50:45
and he had the flowers
2:50:47
that he would bring to a select
2:50:50
young lady at ringside in the Sportatorium in
2:50:52
Dallas where there were 200 people. And
2:50:56
the prettiest young lady at ringside
2:50:58
probably was wearing an oxygen tank
2:51:00
and using a Walker, uh,
2:51:03
but I always got a kick out of
2:51:05
that one, but, uh, we will, we will
2:51:08
anxiously await, uh,
2:51:10
learning more about buff bag
2:51:12
wells outside the ring activities
2:51:15
than, than some of the
2:51:17
inside the ring stuff. Although that's, it's
2:51:19
got potential as well. He broke his
2:51:22
neck on television. He's got
2:51:24
that going for him. Don't forget that. I
2:51:26
mean, it's crazy. For all the people
2:51:28
who say, well, I can't, that can't happen. It
2:51:31
did happen. It can happen again anytime
2:51:33
the way things are going. Uh,
2:51:36
so, and then we move to. Terry
2:51:39
Worty. Week number three, that's one
2:51:42
that I'm looking forward to quite
2:51:44
extensively. And I
2:51:47
know we did this. I'm not trying
2:51:49
to shoehorn myself into all these things.
2:51:51
I know that we talked about Terry
2:51:53
at length when we shot,
2:51:55
but who were you able to get and
2:51:58
how much fun was that putting together? go back watch
2:52:00
some of that old footage. Oh,
2:52:04
I mean Terry Gordy is one of my favorite wrestlers
2:52:06
of all time and it was an honor to do
2:52:08
this episode. Something we actually have wanted to do for
2:52:10
a very long time in some capacity. Either a Terry
2:52:13
Gordy show or a fabulous Freebirds show is
2:52:15
something that's always been super high on our
2:52:17
list to do. And
2:52:20
it was reaching
2:52:23
out to the Gordy family and wanting to
2:52:25
make sure that they wanted this to happen,
2:52:27
to participate in it, which they did. So
2:52:30
the episode features both of his
2:52:32
children, Ray Gordy and of course
2:52:34
Miranda Gordy, who's a wrestler nowadays.
2:52:38
And yourself, this is Jim Cornette's
2:52:41
first appearance in season five. And
2:52:44
we talked to Kevin Sullivan. We
2:52:46
talked to David Manning, of
2:52:49
course, the ref from world class. Jimmy
2:52:51
Garvin is in the episode. Mick Foley
2:52:53
is in the episode. And
2:52:56
I think one of his friends
2:52:58
who was on that fateful flight
2:53:00
where Terry had the big overdose,
2:53:04
which of course is the incident that sort
2:53:07
of changed his personality. But
2:53:10
it was awesome to be able to go back to
2:53:12
watch all the footage, to highlight his time in Japan.
2:53:14
I mean, watching his matches in Japan, I mean, there's
2:53:16
nothing like it. And being
2:53:21
able to spotlight the greatest tag
2:53:24
team name ever in wrestling is when
2:53:26
he teamed with Dr. Death. And they
2:53:28
were the miracle violence connection. My
2:53:31
favorite tag name ever. Amazing
2:53:33
stuff to see that a lot of footage of Dr.
2:53:35
Death that
2:53:38
we used in terms of interviews
2:53:40
he's given about Terry. There's interviews Terry's
2:53:43
given that is in there. And
2:53:46
the thing about Terry is that
2:53:49
the start of his career
2:53:51
perfectly coincided with the start
2:53:53
of the videotape era where
2:53:56
people were just starting to get the VHS machine. So
2:53:58
you've got the end of the. W.A.
2:54:00
saved their footage so you can see Terry Mecca when
2:54:02
he was 14 years old. And
2:54:05
of course you can't see anything
2:54:07
from the Culkins in Mississippi where he really,
2:54:11
you know, started growing up. But then there's
2:54:13
the, you know, the free birds debut on
2:54:15
Memphis television. And you can, then
2:54:18
when you go to Japan, you can see he
2:54:20
was literally growing up
2:54:23
in front of our eyes because when we first
2:54:25
saw him here in this territory, he was 16
2:54:27
years old. And
2:54:29
then he's 18 and he's a free bird.
2:54:32
And then they're in the super
2:54:34
dome. And then he's going to Japan by the
2:54:36
time he's 22 years old. He's,
2:54:40
but he was six, what, four and 250 when
2:54:42
he was 16. So
2:54:45
he grew
2:54:47
up in terms of his
2:54:50
career and his talent and his blossoming
2:54:52
as a worker. But
2:54:55
he was always a fucking big
2:54:57
fucking kid from Chattanooga. Yeah.
2:55:00
And that's something we do highlight too is that I think
2:55:02
he is one of the youngest people
2:55:04
to break into professional wrestling.
2:55:07
Because I know he was working well before he could
2:55:10
legally drive, I think, right? Was it like 14 or
2:55:12
something? Yeah. So you see that and
2:55:14
that's amazing. And then yeah, by
2:55:16
the time he's 18, he's like, you know,
2:55:18
he's fully formed and kick
2:55:21
an ass. And obviously
2:55:23
with the overdose that he
2:55:25
suffered, you know, on the trip to Japan, and of
2:55:27
course it went into the coma and, you know, he
2:55:29
was never the same after that. Just
2:55:32
the contrast that viewers will see from
2:55:34
what Houtari was before, you know, to
2:55:36
after is very heartbreaking.
2:55:39
And the testimonials from
2:55:41
his children really do, really, as
2:55:45
you'll see in the episode, what hold a lot
2:55:47
of this together in terms of their strength and
2:55:49
what they had to go through. And what they
2:55:51
saw and how difficult it was for them. I
2:55:54
think this episode does give a full, just
2:55:57
a totally new perspective on Terry. you
2:56:00
know and and what everybody you know what he was
2:56:02
going through and what the challenges he had and what
2:56:04
everybody else did as well it's a very sad story
2:56:07
but it's also great to be able
2:56:09
to spotlight truly one of the best in the
2:56:11
ring ever for my money well
2:56:14
how you gonna follow that Brutus
2:56:18
the Barbara beefcake hahaha
2:56:23
okay now do you get to the
2:56:25
bottom of the the
2:56:28
question that is on everybody's mind about
2:56:31
Brutus the Barbara beefcake and his
2:56:33
life and career in this episode
2:56:35
do you do investigative reporting do
2:56:37
you delve deep and find out
2:56:39
just exactly when missy beefcake became
2:56:41
his manager she suddenly popped
2:56:43
up on TV last year yeah as
2:56:47
his manager slash
2:56:49
wife and and
2:56:51
then I've all I've heard her all
2:56:53
I've heard all I've heard
2:56:56
about her on Twitter and the internet since
2:56:58
then is that Greg Valentine don't like her
2:57:02
well I mean she's definitely been
2:57:04
a divisive personality to
2:57:07
Brutus's friends and
2:57:10
this episode one part of
2:57:12
this episode is it does chronicle
2:57:14
the front the decades-long friendship
2:57:17
of course between him and Hulk Hogan right they broke
2:57:19
into the business around the
2:57:21
same time wherever Hulk goes
2:57:24
Brutus went yeah and obviously
2:57:26
the episode also gets into
2:57:28
the horrifying parasailing accident that
2:57:31
almost totally obliterated his face and
2:57:35
I remember reading I was reading
2:57:37
Brutus's autobiography at one point and the
2:57:41
the chapter where he talks
2:57:43
about what happened was so
2:57:45
gruesome and visceral that it
2:57:47
made me ill it made me physically ill like
2:57:50
what you know how he described what happened you
2:57:52
know to his face there's
2:57:55
a part in there where you know and we
2:57:57
get into this to tie it
2:57:59
back to the host Hogan friendship is
2:58:01
like I think Brutus's parents had recently passed
2:58:03
away by that point in time. So
2:58:06
like his sort of closest
2:58:08
person in life, you know, is next of
2:58:10
kin, if you will, you know, wasn't a
2:58:12
family member. It really was Hulk Hogan and
2:58:14
they got because they wanted someone to sit
2:58:16
bedside with him that had
2:58:19
a recognizable voice to him. Right.
2:58:22
Yeah. And so they picked Hogan and Hogan shows
2:58:24
up and he's the guy taking care of him.
2:58:26
And then there's that horrifying story where
2:58:29
Hogan takes him out of the bed and walks
2:58:31
him down the hospital hallway so he can, you
2:58:33
know, walk around a little bit and his eyeball
2:58:35
popped out, you know, and
2:58:38
like, okay, brother, let's put you
2:58:40
back to bed, brother. You know, and
2:58:42
so it was just like, oh
2:58:45
my God. You know, so when we, when
2:58:49
Hogan tells the story, his brain fell out
2:58:51
his eye socket. Right. Exactly.
2:58:54
And Harley race lit it on fire.
2:58:57
But no, when
2:59:00
we did the Marty Gennady episode
2:59:02
last season, we interviewed Brutus
2:59:04
and Mrs. Beefcake
2:59:06
and we were just like, well, this
2:59:09
is a pretty interesting stuff going
2:59:11
on down here. Maybe, maybe
2:59:13
it could be an episode and,
2:59:17
and, you know, maybe that could be something. And
2:59:20
we started talking to him about it and then my
2:59:22
team was talking to me about it. Like, could we
2:59:24
do it? Could we do it? And I
2:59:26
basically was like, well, we're definitely getting into the parasailing
2:59:28
accident and we'll talk about the friendship, but I
2:59:31
will only, we will only do this
2:59:33
if we find the man who
2:59:36
reconstructed Brutus's face. And
2:59:39
lo and behold, we found the, we
2:59:41
found the plastic surgeon who of course
2:59:43
is a character. Of course he is.
2:59:46
And so this episode kind of
2:59:49
Gets a little bit into if there's like a,
2:59:51
like a medical reality show version of Dark Side
2:59:53
of the Ring. Now, wait a minute. Is There
2:59:56
going to be a viewer discretion on this? I
2:59:58
Don't like that medical.
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