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Episode 523: Checkers vs. Chess

Episode 523: Checkers vs. Chess

Released Saturday, 16th March 2024
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Episode 523: Checkers vs. Chess

Episode 523: Checkers vs. Chess

Episode 523: Checkers vs. Chess

Episode 523: Checkers vs. Chess

Saturday, 16th March 2024
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["Jym Conest!" plays in

0:02

the background.] At

0:05

the midnight and the rock and

0:07

roll He's in a fight for

0:10

wrestling Solar using a racket and

0:12

some mind control He's Jim Conest!

0:16

The keys to the future held

0:18

by the past And with tag

0:20

team partner, Brian Last He sends

0:22

this message out by podcast He's

0:25

Jim Conest! Well

0:27

he's never fake a phony He

0:30

never backs down from a fight He

0:33

never wins the pony Because

0:35

his mama raised him right It's

0:41

time To

0:44

prepare One

0:46

more Mine! Get

0:50

the experience Get

0:53

the experience Check

0:55

it out! Get the experience

0:58

Of Jim Conest! We're

1:26

pawns in his game because he's the

1:28

Bishop of Podcasting Be great,

1:30

Brian Last, everybody! It's

1:33

a pleasure to be here once again, Jim Thank

1:35

you for having me Aloha And

1:38

aloha to the beautiful people out there In

1:40

TV Wonderland Every... Every

1:44

time you play that Organ

1:47

of yours It makes

1:49

me hungry for a minor league

1:51

ballpark hot dog Alright,

1:56

now we're in a mood, come on! Hot

1:58

dogs and wrestling! Well... And

2:00

here's some apple pie for you.

2:02

How you like these apples? AEW,

2:05

they have, here's the thing.

2:07

I don't even know how to phrase this, Brian, but

2:10

I'm looking at the two programs this

2:12

past week for

2:14

the EVPs and the man

2:16

who sits on the board. And

2:21

in this case, the

2:23

AEW angle has been,

2:25

they're trying to make the

2:27

buckaroos. Art

2:30

imitate life because everybody knows that they're

2:32

EVPs in real life and they're douchebags

2:34

in real life. So now they're presenting

2:36

them as the EVPs that are douchebags

2:38

on the, on the television. And

2:41

they've been the EVPs to everyone's everlasting

2:44

regret for five years since this company

2:46

has been around now, right? The

2:48

Rock just got on the board of directors,

2:51

what fucking January 27 and

2:55

or whatever date. And

2:57

so in six weeks now, everybody saw

2:59

the Rock on a board of directors.

3:01

It looks like that AEW is doing

3:03

a minor league, junior

3:06

high school ripoff of the big angle

3:08

on the WWE, when in actuality they

3:10

came up with it first. They're just

3:12

doing it with real actual fucking megastars.

3:15

See, the other thing is the Rock,

3:17

and I know we'll talk about Smackdown

3:19

later. The Rock, when

3:21

he does it, he says, I'm your boss. I'm on

3:23

the board of directors. That's a boss.

3:26

EVPs have a boss who also

3:28

has a role on this show, feeding

3:30

info to Shivani. I just

3:32

talked to Tony Tom and he says I could

3:34

take a dump during a commercial break. So

3:38

why doesn't the P do something about

3:40

the EVPs? Cause

3:42

there's too much pee peeing going on behind

3:44

the scenes. Everybody's

3:47

lifting their leg and peeing on something,

3:49

trying to make it their territory. But

3:52

no, you are, you are correct, sir. Yes, sir.

3:56

Because it takes Tony, as we will, when we

3:58

talk about their side of the. street later on

4:00

in the show, it takes

4:02

Tony Khan literally four to

4:05

five seconds by stopwatch to

4:08

validate or make a match whenever

4:10

it has even first been

4:12

uttered out of someone's lips. But

4:15

his EVPs who technically as you

4:17

mentioned work for him are running

4:21

roughshod on a television program with

4:23

baseball bats and nobody's saying shit

4:25

trying to stop them. And

4:28

it's gonna be a massive pop when

4:32

Paul Leveque comes to the ring to confront

4:34

the Rock even if there's a match. Even

4:36

if they push him out it becomes the

4:38

modern Ron Wright. Like he's in a wheelchair

4:40

then he gets out he throws a punch

4:42

and he gets back in the wheelchair. Whatever

4:45

it is. Put up your umbrellas for falling

4:47

babies. The babies will go in the air

4:49

once that this particular

4:51

issue at WrestleMania has gone by.

4:53

There's so much the Rock and

4:56

Roman the Rock and Triple H

4:58

not in a just a promo.

5:00

Just a

5:03

not a rivalry but an

5:05

animosity between them in terms

5:08

of a struggle for power involving other main

5:10

event people that will elevate this thing to

5:12

the stratosphere have I made myself clear. Right.

5:15

And that's just the Triple H option. There were

5:17

other options who can come out there and shut

5:20

down the Rock somehow. Like the group of baby

5:22

faces get together to top baby faces because they

5:24

feel like top baby faces. Whatever. In AEW who's

5:26

gonna shut down the EVPs? It

5:28

could be their boss. Like

5:30

that's the thing who's gonna be able to do it. It has

5:33

to be their boss or Omega comes back and

5:35

says I'm an EVP and then we

5:37

get the big Omega bucks viewed. Let

5:39

me just explain something to the

5:41

folks out there. I don't

5:43

know when it's gonna happen. I don't know where

5:45

it's gonna happen. But there will

5:48

come a day there will come a moment when

5:51

the Rock has just gone too

5:53

fucking far with his power struggle

5:55

whether he's a wrestler or whether

5:58

he's a border director. of

6:00

whatever, he's in the ring in front of a

6:02

sold-out building, and he has just

6:05

stepped over a line. And

6:08

Nick Khan's fucking face is

6:10

gonna pop up on that

6:12

Titan-tron from Stanford, Connecticut, with

6:14

the flag flying in the

6:16

background, to say, o

6:18

contraire, mon frère. I'm

6:21

the new Jack Tunney. I have

6:23

a very robust neck. And Nick

6:25

Khan will get a pop-rivaling El

6:27

Santo in his glory days. I

6:29

am the true Khan of wrestling.

6:32

And then Nick Khan, by satellite

6:34

and fucking The Rock, will go

6:36

back and forth leading to, and

6:38

I'm telling it, Nick, they will

6:40

end up, Howie the mailroom guy,

6:42

if he's still there, if he

6:44

wasn't purged along with the

6:47

Vince regime, will be

6:49

over by the time they get finished with

6:51

this thing. It's board of directors, so there

6:53

have to be other board of directors members

6:55

introduced eventually to help get The Rock out

6:57

of this position as he becomes more tyrannical

6:59

in this position. Yeah, and

7:01

there's the line, hey, Rock, it's

7:04

not board of director. It's board

7:07

of directors, and a-boom. You

7:11

see, ladies and gentlemen, not accepting The

7:13

Rock as a babyface caused all this.

7:17

This is the rock we wanted. There

7:19

you go. The

7:21

people have spoken. And

7:24

meanwhile, over across the other way, he's

7:27

giving you legit attitude, and

7:29

it's working, and then you have the bucks doing, where

7:32

are the bosses? Hey, call us by

7:34

our full name, because that's what a boss would

7:36

do. I don't know what the fuck that is.

7:38

They're doing a YouTube program

7:40

with YouTube personalities

7:43

who think they're on network television.

7:46

And here's the biggest movie star

7:48

in Hollywood, showing

7:51

them how it's done, and to their

7:54

candy asses or whatever the fuck. But

7:56

anyway, I've

7:58

got to give you an update on what we... talked about last

8:00

week on the program, Brian. You remember the big

8:03

worldwide news in Louisville, Kentucky, the

8:05

bridge, the truck off the bridge,

8:07

the 18-wheeler dangling

8:10

half in and half off of the

8:12

second Street bridge over the Ohio River

8:14

with the driver still

8:17

stuck in it, cab dangling, fucking

8:20

hood up, shit falling,

8:22

you know, fucking the...

8:24

you can see it the movie scene, right?

8:26

Where the screws and the bits of bridge

8:29

are falling and plop plop and she's going,

8:31

oh shit, dangled

8:33

there for 45 minutes, the fire

8:35

department lowers the guy by cable

8:38

in a harness similar to

8:40

what they used to raise me over the ring

8:42

in in Louisiana and pulled

8:45

her out of the cab and they hauled both of them

8:47

up and then they got that truck

8:49

off the bridge, which the only

8:51

reason that it didn't go completely into

8:54

the river was, you know how it's like

8:56

50 feet long, that trailer, right? When

8:59

it flipped up, half of it

9:01

on the top was stuck under

9:03

the steel girders of the actual framework of

9:05

the bridge. It was too long to go

9:07

through the opening. If it had been a

9:09

little shorter, it would have just gone straight

9:11

through, right? So it was

9:14

a fucking millisecond away

9:16

from being a big deal. So

9:20

I said, you know, that's one of the

9:23

bridges and the other bridge, one of the

9:25

other bridges over the Ohio, they were doing

9:27

routine maintenance on so it really clogged traffic

9:29

up, right? And

9:31

who knows how long that bridge is gonna be closed

9:33

is what I said. Well,

9:36

I'll have you know, Brian, do you know when

9:38

they reopened that fucking bridge that the truck went

9:40

off of the edge of? When

9:45

I what? Do you know when they...

9:48

do you understand the words that are coming out of

9:50

my mouth? Do you

9:52

know when they reopened that

9:55

bridge that the truck had gone

9:57

off of? I have no idea, no. Like

10:00

the next fucking day they

10:02

inspected it. They had the sidewalk was

10:05

the only thing damage. They said just

10:07

the pedestrian sidewalk on the edge and

10:09

they, and they inspected it and they

10:11

thought, okay, it's the, I

10:14

think it's the oldest and it's certainly the

10:16

smallest bridge across the Ohio river that we've

10:19

got, but in this fucking giant tractor

10:21

trailer truck that was in the middle of a

10:23

four car accident that caused this to begin with

10:26

fucking goes off the edge of it dangles

10:28

there with that weight in

10:31

the steel structure for hours until

10:33

they were able to haul that

10:35

thing up and

10:37

they reopened that bridge the next day. But

10:40

you know, that bridge that they are doing the

10:42

routine maintenance on, I think it was a little

10:45

paving and painting or whatever that's

10:47

the, the bridge interstate 64,

10:49

if you want to go from downtown

10:51

Louisville into Southern Indiana and to the

10:54

west to St. Louis, you

10:56

take interstate 64, right? Louisville

10:58

to St. Louis, big route, big

11:00

fucking bridge, long fucking bridge. Right?

11:04

They're doing the routine maintenance.

11:07

Unquote on that. About

11:10

three days ago in the

11:12

middle of a fucking work day, week

11:14

day, broad daylight,

11:16

early afternoon, they

11:19

sent out the signal, shut this son

11:21

of a bitch down. And

11:24

they shut the whole bridge down both

11:27

ways to interstate 64 traffic at that.

11:30

As soon as they could get cops

11:32

out there to send everybody off

11:34

the last exit and say, fuck you, you're, you're, you're not going.

11:39

And it has remained

11:41

closed to this point. They found, oh,

11:43

goddamn, how did they phrase it? Some

11:48

way or another, there is structural shit out of alignment

11:50

in that fucking bridge that needs to be inspected further

11:53

and or addressed. He's

11:57

a goddamn idiot. giant.

12:01

The second street bridge is

12:03

a goddamn cowboy Lang bridge,

12:05

a Lord Littlebrook bridge next

12:07

to this bridge and

12:10

they opened it the next and they shut this

12:12

son of a bitch down and said no, nothing.

12:15

So now you've got to go all the

12:17

way around the loop in southern Indiana. But

12:19

the point is, people don't drive over

12:21

any of these fucking bridges. Just

12:25

stay in your homes. Or

12:27

just don't drive a giant truck on one of

12:29

these bridges. No, fuck, they

12:32

shut it down for anything. That means

12:35

they're fixing it then it'll be

12:37

safe to drive on. Well goddamn,

12:39

they're doing routine maintenance and suddenly,

12:41

just in the sperm of the

12:43

moment, they say, oh fuck,

12:46

shut it down now. That to

12:48

me indicates that there has been

12:50

a lack of fucking attention given

12:53

to goddamn issues that may have

12:55

exacerbated over time. That I

12:57

don't want to be the canary in the coal mine, putting

13:00

across in my fucking SUV

13:04

or even somebody in a Honda Civic

13:06

when the whole goddamn thing becomes a

13:08

fucking special effects scene in a movie.

13:10

I do, that's

13:13

why I didn't like that fucking Northeast. You got

13:15

to go across those fucking bridges that were built

13:17

by who knows

13:20

goddamn Lincoln's troops. Like good

13:22

steel workers in the 1900s.

13:25

In the 18 fucking 80s. What bridges? What

13:27

bridges in the 1880s are you speaking

13:29

of? Look, when did they build a George

13:31

Washington Bridge, Mr. New York motherfucker? Hold on,

13:33

fancy pants. Hold on Louisville motherfucker. I guarantee

13:36

you, as in the 1800s, I'll come up

13:38

there and kiss your ass on it. I

13:40

don't want you to come up here. Stay

13:42

with me. No, you book Thursday. Stay where

13:44

you are. There's traffic in southern Indiana. Thursday

13:46

afternoon at two o'clock with a goddamn camera

13:48

crew, I will kiss your ass on the

13:51

George Washington Bridge if it was not open

13:53

before 1900. Construction started October 1927. It

13:55

opened October 25th, 1930. Now

14:02

there's another bridge up there that's really old.

14:05

Keep naming all the bridges you know. Let's see how many bridges you know in

14:07

this area. What about that 59th

14:10

Street bridge? Is it feeling groovy? It's feeling

14:12

groovy. What's another name for that bridge? There's

14:15

two more names for that bridge. The name for

14:17

it is I'm trying to distract from the fact

14:20

that I'm going to have to come up there and

14:22

kiss your ass on the George Washington Bridge bridge. It's

14:24

also the Queensborough Bridge. It's also the Ed Koch Memorial

14:26

Bridge. I

14:29

thought it was Koch. Ed Koch? Ed

14:31

Koch. That was Ed Koch. He

14:33

was pretty famous. He hosted Saturday Night Live. He wrote

14:35

the book Mayor. I thought he was related

14:37

to the Koch brothers. He was in

14:39

the Muppets taking the right wing industrialists.

14:41

No, they're the Koch brothers. It's spelled

14:43

the same way. It's spelled the same

14:45

way. One's Koch, one's Koch, and one's Koch.

14:48

There's no Koch. When

14:50

Ed Koch, there's no Koch. That was one of

14:52

his campaign slogans, I believe. Okay.

14:55

I think we've distracted enough from my kissing

14:57

your ass. Well, boy, it's an old goddamn

14:59

broken-down bridge is what it is. And

15:02

it's scary. And it's obviously

15:05

not – any of those – and

15:07

the tunnel? What about that

15:10

Lincoln Tunnel? Was it dug by Abraham

15:12

Lincoln? Did he turn the first spade

15:14

of soil? It's

15:16

– ever since 9-11, any time you go through one

15:18

of those tunnels or on the Verrazano or something, all you're

15:20

thinking is like, man, if there's any terrorists right now, like

15:23

this is one of their main targets, you would think, and

15:26

this could be it. That's what all – I've got to

15:28

get off this bridge as fast as I fucking can. Yes.

15:31

Yes. That's what I'm telling you. And having

15:33

to go through that tunnel, whenever we'd go

15:35

up there for Ring of Honor, Stacey would

15:37

be feeding me a Xanax 30 minutes out

15:40

because I would fucking – I

15:43

can see the movie in my mind's eye,

15:45

the fireball coming down the tunnel. Yeah, no,

15:47

the Holland Tunnel is a picnic, too. Well,

15:50

that's right. It's the Holland Tunnel, not

15:52

the Lincoln Tunnel. Well, both all of

15:54

those tunnels. Yeah, there's the Midtown Tunnel,

15:56

there's the Holland Tunnel, there's the Lincoln

15:58

Tunnel. point is they've

16:00

got hundreds of millions

16:03

of pounds of water on top

16:05

of them and some fucking Italian

16:07

guy from Brooklyn was digging it.

16:10

So, you know... Again, good

16:12

quality American steelworkers and laborers who

16:15

built this country to where it

16:17

is, I don't think you should

16:19

be putting them down. And the

16:21

fucking awesome magnitude of the power

16:23

of the goddamn natural powers of

16:26

gravity. I'm

16:28

putting them up against the goddamn

16:30

steelworkers union. If

16:34

the steelworkers union comes up with a way

16:36

to fucking suspend the law of gravity, then

16:40

I'm on their side. All right,

16:43

this has turned into a weird discussion. Well,

16:46

because I'm thinking about politics and the

16:48

laws of gravity and all the laws

16:50

of right and justice in

16:52

the American way because of

16:55

our president, Joseph R. Biden, who

16:58

gave the State of the Union address the other

17:00

night and told everybody what

17:02

the hell that he thought they ought to

17:04

be doing and he was right about everything.

17:08

And I'm just going to ask a question. I'm

17:10

not going to quote it chapter and verse. But

17:13

Brian, again, the

17:17

prevailing opinion amongst the Trump suckers,

17:19

the Fox News, the FAW News

17:22

crowd and all of the people

17:24

who can't accept living in the

17:27

real world and reality is

17:30

that Biden's a

17:32

daughtering senile old man and Trump

17:34

is a vivacious, articulate,

17:38

aggressive, powerful,

17:40

fucking whatever the fuck

17:43

when in actuality it's the exact

17:45

opposite. They are living in a

17:47

mirror world. Can anyone deny that

17:50

Donald Trump cannot string

17:52

five coherent words together

17:54

in a sentence and even

17:56

get to punctuation? He

17:59

doesn't know the meaning of it. twelve words of

18:01

the English language, he is

18:04

trying to figure out what lie to come up

18:06

with next, he makes up

18:08

his own words and people think that

18:10

it's cute and

18:13

he is obviously mentally

18:16

unwell, he is

18:18

the deranged babbling of a

18:20

blithering old senile

18:23

idiot. A

18:25

blithering old senile, he is Al

18:27

Capone with syphilis in the latter

18:29

stages. He once may

18:31

have been an effective con man, but

18:35

now he is fucking talking

18:37

about goddamn his

18:40

diarrhea, but

18:42

they eat it up. But then Biden

18:44

comes out and for

18:46

almost an hour and a half he told everybody

18:48

what they needed to hear. He

18:51

told the Republican

18:54

enablers, ex-president pig shit

18:57

that they weren't going to take away people's

19:00

Medicare and Social Security, he wasn't going to

19:02

allow that to happen. They

19:06

wouldn't even applaud, what about Mike Johnson, the

19:08

Speaker of the House now since they ran

19:10

the last one off, the Republicans can't even

19:13

agree on which one can take us back

19:15

to the dark ages more quickly, so

19:17

now it's this religious fanatic. He

19:20

couldn't even stand up for political

19:23

violence has no place in the United

19:25

States of America. Oh

19:28

my God, how hard a fucking line

19:30

is that, but unfortunately they can't really

19:33

do that. Applaud it or they'd be

19:35

hypocrites because they're the ones that popularized

19:37

it January 6th, couple of years ago.

19:41

So then he looks at the

19:43

Supreme Court, six of I believe of them,

19:45

six of them are at least are fanatics,

19:49

about four of those were appointed by

19:51

Trump himself. He

19:53

looks at the Supreme Court and he says, and

19:55

if I can get the American people to vote

19:57

and give me the proper. I

20:01

will ensure that women have their right

20:03

to abortion and health

20:06

care and that you don't take that away." And

20:11

then when they

20:13

would have wanted to boo him about various

20:15

things, he would fucking fire back at him,

20:17

oh really? Well, I'll show you where you

20:19

said that type of thing. There was, of

20:23

course, the noted cum-gargling

20:26

trailer park penis koozie, Marjorie Treason

20:28

Green, that was trying to hoot

20:31

because she's auditioned for Trump and,

20:33

Marge, I hate to tell you,

20:36

Trump ain't gonna fuck you because there's some things

20:38

even a pig won't do. But

20:41

she shows the example of what they

20:43

have fucking become as a goddamn political

20:46

party of the stupid, the uneducated,

20:49

the trashy, and

20:51

the backward. But

20:54

Biden spoke for an hour and a

20:56

half and told everybody what they needed

20:59

to hear, including the American people. I

21:01

am standing in the way of

21:03

this fucking idiot and democracy. And

21:07

unfortunately, the pod people have taken

21:09

over a significant part of the

21:11

American population, so we need to

21:13

vote right. That's what he was

21:15

basically saying. He was illustrating that

21:17

we may not be able to get out of it next time and

21:22

we'll be a goddamn laughingstock of the

21:24

world if we make that mistake again

21:28

until, of course, the eventual ending of

21:30

the world is the result of us

21:32

making that mistake. We do not have

21:34

the responsibility that we used to protect the

21:36

world anymore. Now they're all sitting here looking

21:38

at us like, oh fuck, what

21:40

are they gonna do this time? But

21:44

anyway, I

21:46

thought he did wonderfully for a senile

21:49

old sleepy guy. Did you

21:52

see the woman after him from Alabama,

21:54

the Republican woman from Alabama? Yes. Now

21:59

that was insane. That's

22:01

what I'm saying. They have come to

22:03

this that they are appealing to the

22:05

fringe element of everything. The

22:08

fringe religious fanatics, even regular religious people

22:10

won't go as far as these nuts.

22:12

But the fringe ones will. And

22:15

the fringe militias and the

22:17

fringe patriots and the fringe

22:19

QAnons and the fringe everything.

22:22

And this was an example

22:24

of they love...they...remember when they thought they

22:26

were going to be running against Hillary Clinton? And

22:29

that's...pop Sarah Palin? Because

22:32

they thought that the voters

22:34

will vote for anybody with a vagina.

22:36

Because that's how they

22:38

came... So now that

22:41

they got rid of Nikki

22:43

Haley but some women still

22:45

don't like this fucking criminal

22:47

pig that they're trying to run.

22:51

They say, well, Republicans love

22:53

vapid, droning, fake women talking

22:55

about how scared they are

22:57

of some fucking menace from

22:59

their various

23:02

catalog of imaginary menaces.

23:07

And she's in her kitchen doing

23:09

a fucking promo like it's

23:11

a badly scripted WWE

23:14

girls promo with fucking Jackie

23:16

Redmond or whatever. It

23:20

was an audition for acting class, wasn't it?

23:22

It was the fake talking. It was just,

23:24

yes, I'm like other moms just

23:27

here to talk to you. It

23:29

was just no one talks like

23:31

this. It was her trying to be her version

23:34

of Barbara Billingsley. It actually

23:36

looked more like Ginger Grant on Gilligan's Island

23:38

when they got to put on a play.

23:41

And she was trying to audition

23:43

for Harold Hecuba. The

23:46

fuck is going on with these people?

23:50

But they can't say it, so again,

23:52

and we will move on. The

23:55

contrast is allegedly that Trump is

23:57

a dynamic, forceful leader that will...

24:00

do the right thing, then Joe

24:02

Biden is sleepy and senile, and Biden

24:04

came out there and cut a promo

24:06

and had a grip on everything. Whether

24:08

you like his pronunciation or not, fuck

24:10

you. The world is at

24:12

stake here. And

24:15

he showed that, look, folks,

24:18

these are the things we need to do and

24:20

look at what's going on over here. Some in

24:22

our chamber would like to have you go back

24:24

to whatever the fuck on whatever the fuck, and

24:26

we don't want to do that. This is America.

24:30

And he was clearly in

24:34

charge of the situation. So I don't

24:37

know what bizarro world these people

24:39

live in, but we

24:41

don't want this criminal,

24:45

lying, psychopathic,

24:47

obnoxious, ignorant, incurious

24:50

asshole to be

24:53

in charge of our destiny

24:55

again, just so he can avoid prison

24:57

where he belongs. Cause that's the reason

25:00

he's running. And then

25:02

old age will take its course while he's in

25:04

office and they'll never be able to put the

25:06

pig away. Just

25:08

because he wants to stay out of jail

25:10

is no reason to put the world at

25:12

risk. Let's do the right thing. All

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25:57

Huh. Are

25:59

you ready? for the, uh, the legal

26:01

update, Brian, we

26:04

got to do the legal update for

26:06

AEW because they got, they got things

26:08

going on and they're going to be

26:10

in all sorts of courts across the

26:13

country, like another disgraced ex-politician. Um,

26:17

I, I'm not

26:20

sure what legal advice are they

26:22

getting over there? It wouldn't, when

26:25

Tony now, who's he talking to now?

26:27

When, when something comes up that he

26:30

may be legally involved in or at risk

26:32

for, or just curious about who the heck

26:34

is he speaking to now? Well,

26:37

of course, mega-Pereek was head of AEW

26:39

legal, but now she's just working for

26:42

the Jaguar, she has no involvement whatsoever

26:44

with anything to do with AEW whatsoever,

26:46

but in the same

26:48

office, that's what we're told. Right. But

26:51

in the same offices, I believe, or

26:53

nearby, or AEWs head

26:55

of legal, Chris. Pounds down the hall. Chris

26:57

Peck is the head of their legal department. Chris Peck. Cause

27:01

you know, I was going to offer

27:03

my services because I feel as a

27:05

qualified small town bird lawyer, I might

27:08

be a little bit more qualified than

27:10

whoever the fuck is giving Tony his

27:13

legal advice lately. Have

27:15

you heard about the, uh, the, the

27:18

slideshow, the graphic that they put up on

27:20

the screen at some of their shows now,

27:22

I don't know how long they've been doing

27:24

this potentially they may

27:27

have been doing it a while, but it, um,

27:30

it was brought to my attention via

27:32

the Twitter machine after

27:34

the pay-per-view where they decided they would

27:36

just shut apparently the

27:38

glass that Darby went through and the

27:40

glass they were using was real glass.

27:43

It wasn't the sugar glass because honestly,

27:45

that sugar glass breaks into almost

27:48

powder and you can see that there was,

27:50

there was bigger pieces. There was chunks, right?

27:54

But several people have written in that

27:56

work either with glass companies or.

28:00

windshield replant, they're in the glass

28:02

industry. And they

28:04

say it's tempered glass because the, like

28:07

just a regular old piece of glass, like you

28:09

might've had in a storm window back in the

28:11

old days, right? That

28:14

will break and use, that's where

28:16

you get the big shards, right?

28:18

The irregularly shaped jagged pieces, right?

28:20

That's regular glass. But

28:23

the tempered glass, it will shatter

28:25

like we saw with Darby and Sting's

28:27

ass and everything else that went through

28:30

the glass. It'll shatter,

28:32

but it'll be in those

28:34

rounder pieces and it's thicker. So

28:36

it can't really, it'll just slice you

28:38

up, but it doesn't like stab impale you,

28:40

you see what I'm saying, Brian? I

28:43

do. Did I, did I articulate

28:45

that properly for the folks? I think so.

28:47

For the laymen who don't know too much

28:49

about glass being used as props. Okay.

28:52

So what they were doing then was

28:54

when they leaned that, that

28:57

piece of glass up in the corner

28:59

and they threw Sting upside down, ass

29:01

first through it. And it shattered that

29:04

tempered glass. All those pieces that flew

29:06

into the crowd was real tempered glass.

29:10

And we saw the videos from people's

29:13

phones that they were saying

29:15

the crowd, the girl or the woman, I

29:17

don't know, a female person

29:21

that it turned like covered up, oh shit.

29:23

And then the people were ducking on the

29:25

other side when they did that. Well,

29:28

they have a statement

29:30

that people took a picture of and tweeted out

29:32

that as I said, either they've been putting this

29:35

up or they started putting it up. After this

29:38

brew, ha ha. Do you want

29:40

to know why I got it right here? Can I read

29:42

it to you? Here, please read it to me. But also

29:44

I think they have done this for a while. Cause I

29:46

think we've seen this image and talked about it well, a

29:49

while back. Okay. So

29:51

then, then this, this is what they,

29:53

this is their disclaimer forever. This is

29:56

why they can get away with barbed

29:58

wire and broken tempered glass. flying

30:00

willy-nilly about the arena and

30:03

thumbtacks being spread and blood

30:05

being sprayed into the

30:07

crowd when they're doing the dives and the

30:09

furniture and the potential chairs

30:12

being flung and all

30:14

the things that they love to do, it's all covered

30:17

folks. It's your own fault

30:19

if you don't set the DVR and

30:22

if you don't duck out of

30:24

the way because they say caution, if

30:27

you have a seat on the floor,

30:29

you are at risk of

30:32

being struck by persons, objects,

30:34

barricades, and other items. Please

30:37

be aware of the action as you

30:39

are watching and move out of the

30:41

way if someone or something is coming

30:43

your way. By staying

30:45

in this area, which I

30:47

remind you, in an

30:49

NBA-sized arena is the

30:52

floor, by

30:54

staying in this area, you

30:57

assume all risks of injury to yourself

30:59

and to your property. So

31:01

the people that buy the most

31:04

expensive tickets are the ones most at risk.

31:06

But now, let

31:09

me ask you this, Brian, first of all, let's just

31:11

take this as if this would stand up in you.

31:13

Exactly. How would that stand up? I'm using a pizza

31:15

cutter and a ring of flies out of my hand

31:17

and lands in your head. I'm

31:19

gonna give you an example here. I'm gonna

31:22

give you an example here. Now, you

31:25

may not be old enough, but Gallagher,

31:27

the comedian. Gallagher. Oh yeah, I'm a

31:29

big fan of the wackiness of the

31:32

man behind Gallagher. Well,

31:34

there you go. Well, for those of

31:36

you who are young or ill-informed, Gallagher

31:38

was the prop comic that

31:40

was hotter than a Chinese pistol, as

31:42

Dream Machine would say, back in

31:45

the 90s or whatever it was. Oh no no

31:47

no no no. 80s? Early 80s. Early

31:50

throughout the 80s. Well, god damn it.

31:53

Time flies now that mine's almost done.

31:56

But anyway, so

31:58

whatever era it was

32:00

the eighties Gallagher he's a prop comic.

32:03

And he brings out you know

32:06

hilarious props and makes jokes about him

32:08

in another thing that he does is

32:10

he takes any he takes a sledgehammer

32:12

to various. Pieces of

32:14

fruit sledge a man or sledge

32:16

a medic as a parody

32:19

on the the veg a medic

32:21

and vegetable slicer tv commercial

32:23

sledge o matic and it became

32:26

from fruit and then it went

32:28

to just different objects. But

32:30

with a comedic effect as he's hitting

32:33

in the watermelon boy that was great

32:35

right. End the first

32:37

three or four rows when he would do his

32:39

show live in a theater would be the like

32:42

the Gallagher splash zone. End

32:44

a woody people would bring poncho's and they

32:46

would even hand out rain slickers or whatever

32:48

you didn't get the watermelon and everybody had

32:50

a. Fun time with adding you

32:52

kind of expected that right. End

32:55

so i think that it would have been kind

32:57

of difficult. For anybody and

32:59

say row number three to to

33:03

sue because all a piece of

33:05

watermelon ryan coming and

33:07

hit my glasses and it stabbed me in the

33:09

corner of the eye and now i can't see.

33:13

That's a kind of a stretch right.

33:16

But what about if is he

33:18

swinging the sledgehammer brian. The

33:21

fucking head of the goddamn sledgehammer

33:23

comes off and it hit some

33:25

fucking woman from cleveland in

33:27

the fucking right temple as she's talking to

33:29

her brother in law. And

33:32

she suffers permanent fucking brain

33:34

damage where she is goddamn

33:36

complete vegetable and it's crossed

33:38

her wires to the point that she shoving pot

33:40

roast up her ass and shit not her pussy.

33:43

What list of weird turn are you there

33:45

which they're also somewhere there there would be.

33:50

Compability on

33:53

the part of certainly would Gallagher

33:55

that's right because that is

33:57

can't even be no. Oh,

34:01

you should have checked that goddamn sledgehammer.

34:03

You're swinging something. It's fucking heavy around

34:05

the goddamn thing. The thing flies off

34:08

the same thing with the glass. It'll

34:10

put somebody's eye out. Yeah, Gallagher never did

34:12

that. Hey, now I'm going to break this

34:15

vase. Right? Yes. Now

34:17

I'm going to take a sledgehammer and just bash

34:19

a pane of glass and it'll spray 10, 20,

34:23

30 feet, wherever the fuck it goes. We don't

34:25

know. But

34:28

no, no, there is

34:30

no... I believe me. I

34:32

have been sued in this environment

34:35

and I know how lawyers frame

34:37

things and how depositions

34:39

go and how people are

34:42

required to testify. And

34:45

I was actually the victim of a

34:47

small judgment because

34:49

the guy that I

34:51

whacked over the head was on the other

34:54

side of the protective

34:57

barrier, which at the time was

35:00

a goddamn clothesline between two poles.

35:03

And the guy walked into the rope and

35:05

continued walking because it was so loose and

35:07

came right up to the ringside and fucking

35:10

grabbed me. But because he

35:12

was on the other side of the rope, even

35:14

though he had violated the spirit of the space

35:16

by like six feet. So

35:19

it's garbage shit like this.

35:22

If you get in a real courtroom, if any

35:24

of these sycophantic

35:27

fucking fans one of these days are

35:29

not impressed

35:32

and or turned on

35:34

in some fashion by being part of

35:36

the show, by being injured or stabbed

35:38

or impaled or whatever,

35:40

it actually decides to sue, you

35:43

go into court with shit like this, they're going to

35:45

fucking laugh at you. No.

35:48

By taking a seat in

35:52

the second row of a boxing match, you

35:55

don't take risk for the boxer to fall

35:57

out of the goddamn ring and fall

36:00

in your lap, if you're two

36:02

rows back and the spectator stands

36:05

for the NBA, if the fucking

36:07

player dives over and breaks

36:09

your kid's leg, can

36:12

you still not sue? No.

36:15

None of this makes sense. And

36:18

it's about also what you could reasonably expect.

36:20

It's one thing you were sitting in the

36:22

front row and a wrestler landed on your

36:25

lap because they were thrown over the barricade.

36:27

What's more reasonable than expecting a bunch of glass

36:29

to end up in your face? Well,

36:31

and that is true and that is a

36:33

point and that's a term in the legal

36:36

industry, a mitigating factor. But I

36:39

guarantee you that if you get

36:41

a good attorney and I've heard

36:44

again the testimonies take place, so

36:49

you mean to tell me that in this

36:52

athletic entertainment

36:54

that you people do where

36:56

you cooperate with each other

36:58

and you work with each

37:00

other to present the simulation

37:03

of combat and conflict

37:06

that you deliberately made

37:09

the choice to go

37:11

along with the

37:13

gentleman that was pretending to

37:16

throw you over the railing

37:18

and leaped over

37:20

it so that you could land

37:22

on my client's son's leg, breaking

37:25

it and ruining his hopes of

37:27

ever becoming a fucking

37:29

sinner in the NBA even though he's

37:32

fucking only seven years old.

37:35

That's right. My boss will pay for it. There

37:38

you go. It's

37:40

no. Then you would have to

37:43

prove that it was complete. The wrestlers would

37:45

have to prove it was complete accident. And

37:47

we'd know I wasn't cooperating. I fell over

37:49

it when we were executing our move. Oh,

37:52

then you executed a

37:54

move that you can't perform professionally

37:57

over the audience so that they would

37:59

be put at risk. You can't win

38:01

that shit. Just telling you.

38:05

Fuck. Because

38:07

they really

38:09

wanted to sue us back in the days

38:11

because they were mad at us anyway and

38:13

they'd usually lost a fight. It's

38:16

not like we were fucking throwing

38:18

goddamn sharp implements at high rates

38:20

of speed out into the crowd.

38:22

We were just protecting ourselves and

38:25

there was constant lawsuits because they

38:28

were of a different temperament and

38:31

didn't consider it

38:33

a fucking badge of honor on TV

38:35

that so and so landed in my

38:37

lap but let somebody get really damaged

38:39

or really hurt or as what part

38:42

two of our legal update will

38:45

illustrate, let them start

38:47

realizing Tony spends a lot of money

38:49

for a lot of things he doesn't really need to spend

38:51

money for and you

38:53

will start getting some suits filed that

38:56

have varying degrees of merit depending on

38:58

the honesty and integrity of the people

39:00

involved. But

39:02

should we talk about part two or do

39:05

you have any other comments about how can

39:07

they expect if they throw battery acid out

39:09

into the crowd and it blinds somebody that

39:11

that's their fault? That's the fee you should

39:13

have ducked. Yeah,

39:16

it wouldn't hold up anywhere. It's

39:18

almost like the bare minimum you could

39:20

do to try to cover your ass.

39:23

What you could really do is just not do the stupid

39:25

shit. Yeah, you see. Especially anywhere

39:27

near fans. Well, remember the

39:30

ECW audience would have taken, I

39:32

think, battery acid in the eyes.

39:35

If you told them ahead of time, hey, it's going to be

39:37

part of a big spot, we're going to play it over and

39:39

over on the open. But the

39:41

fire out in the crowd was too much for them

39:43

when everything went south in the dark

39:46

and they had the chaos. Didn't they

39:48

get lawsuits over that or at least

39:50

people highly perturbed?

39:52

I don't

39:55

remember for sure. And the buildings. Here's

39:58

another. If i

40:00

am the, the

40:02

man that whatever the manager or whatever

40:04

the high ranking official is whatever building

40:07

whatever their title is these days with

40:09

the building man if i'm the building

40:11

manager. And i

40:13

hear okay i've got a. 15,000

40:16

feet building and this company wrestling

40:18

promotion just came in and rented

40:21

it for a tv shoot and

40:23

they put thirty two or thirty

40:25

five hundred people in it. And

40:28

they got damn a table

40:31

flies over the railing crashes

40:33

and it hits some fucking girl in

40:35

the back of the head and scares

40:37

her fucking boyfriend

40:40

or whatever you used to hear these

40:42

complaints all the time. About

40:45

you know just minor shit right in the in

40:47

the old days of wrestling again because there was

40:49

so many people in the buildings and there was

40:51

so many shows. Yeah pam watson just died. What

40:55

does that have to do with a fucking thing i

40:57

was here with the thing fell on the fans in

40:59

oxville oh. Good

41:02

lord yes they almost

41:04

knocked the they knocked the lighting grid

41:06

over in oxville or the lighting tree

41:08

rather over in noxville it had almost

41:11

hit the people and we could have

41:13

been sued under the fucking courthouse okay

41:15

yeah but nevertheless. The

41:17

stuff that they're doing now if

41:19

i was a building manager i would have a

41:22

problem if my employees came to me and said

41:24

we got a complaint from this lady in the

41:26

second row because she got sprayed with glass or

41:28

a table leg flew up or the god whatever

41:30

the fuck or they're bleeding on people in the.

41:33

In the you know ringside section.

41:37

That the building does not need a

41:39

w wrestling to exist

41:41

and to prosper especially

41:44

when they're drawing crowds like that

41:46

and because. Yes they may

41:48

get full rent or whatever rents been agreed

41:50

to based on whatever part of the building

41:53

that they're using but the buildings do an

41:55

absolute dick on parking and concessions

41:57

and they did there and

41:59

they. can't use all of their usual vendors

42:02

and security people and

42:05

whatever the fuck. So because

42:07

it's a cut down production. So

42:10

they don't need that. Why do they want

42:12

complaints from the fucking people that are there?

42:14

If it wasn't that these most of these

42:16

people are drinking the fucking Kool-Aid and one

42:19

of these days they're going to hit somebody

42:21

in the right way that is

42:23

just there because some friends gave them

42:25

some tickets and they don't have any emotional attachment

42:28

to whether Tony Khan has a

42:30

successful wrestling promotion or not. And

42:33

they say, oh, we can make some money on

42:35

this. A couple of these lawsuits in WWE as

42:37

I'm going to kind of ask for exclusivity in

42:39

more buildings. You

42:41

don't want that other company here. They do all sorts of

42:44

stuff that has nothing to do with us. We're something different.

42:46

Well, but then see now that's

42:49

double stupid because as we know

42:51

the new ownership of WWE, they're

42:53

not as wrapped up as Vince

42:55

was in exclusivity on everything, exclusivity

42:57

on television, on a network,

43:00

exclusivity with a building. They

43:03

come from the real business world. They're not

43:05

as, you know,

43:07

and they don't want another lawsuit

43:09

via monopoly. They know they're blowing

43:11

everybody else away. So

43:13

they're not going to fucking be penny-anny like

43:16

that or vindictive or whatever. So

43:18

now Tony's got a chance to not have... Yeah,

43:21

they will. They will. Some will

43:23

at least out in the open and

43:25

over small shit, over small

43:27

shit at this point. And

43:30

that's the thing. Tony could take advantage of

43:32

that rather than having Vince wanting to bite

43:34

his fucking carotid artery out. And

43:37

they're doing shit to piss off buildings. And

43:41

again, you can get away with more if

43:44

the building is full and you turn people

43:46

away and all of

43:48

the building's employees are working and all

43:50

their vendors are sending extra fucking people

43:52

to handle the staffing. Why,

43:55

that's lovely. But for this piss hole

43:58

in a snowbank, don't... spray

44:00

the people with fucking glass in my building

44:02

because they'll be named in the suit. The

44:05

building will then, or their

44:07

legal representative, will then

44:09

be called into this to at

44:11

least give depositions and ask why,

44:14

what levels of security

44:16

or what measures did

44:18

you take as an arena

44:20

to protect the people that are

44:22

patronizing your building, sir? We put

44:24

up a graphic on the screen,

44:28

said if it's coming duck, you

44:30

know beyond the graphic though and just to look at it from

44:32

a different angle quickly in terms of the buildings, what

44:35

if something had happened to Darby? You

44:37

know, you can usually claim, look there was an

44:39

accident we don't know what happened, he was supposed

44:42

to land on this crash pad or

44:44

the table was supposed to break his fall. What

44:47

was supposed to break his fall? The glass?

44:49

The fucking floor was supposed to

44:51

break his fall and son of a bitch when you

44:53

know who won the pony? It did. If something had

44:55

happened, how are you going to explain that? How

44:57

do you explain your way around that if there was

45:00

anything that went wrong? Thank God it didn't and I

45:02

like Darby unlike some people here but

45:04

if anything had gone wrong... I did

45:06

till then. There was nothing to break his fall. There's

45:08

an argument for anything else. We thought the rest of it would

45:11

catch him. The table was supposed to catch him. There

45:13

was nothing. It was just the floor. But

45:16

okay and while we're on the subject here,

45:18

let's bring this up because he's been quoted

45:21

since they said I wanted to make Sting's

45:23

retirement to, give

45:26

it the respect it deserves, make it as memorable

45:28

as it ought to have been. Everything about Sting's

45:30

retirement, it was all about Sting's last match. Why

45:32

did you steal all the fucking attention? Because

45:35

all the people remember is your dumbass

45:38

being thrown off the thing through glass,

45:40

through chairs onto the concrete floor. Now

45:42

here's another thing and that

45:45

Tony Khan allowed apparently in his company

45:48

and that everybody else either went along with or was forced

45:50

to, they had a plan

45:52

B just in case Darby

45:54

doesn't get it because remember Darby came

45:56

back in to finish. Right.

45:58

Just in case... Darby doesn't get

46:01

up with their plan B. They

46:03

were going to do something. They

46:05

actually went into Sting's

46:07

retirement match with

46:10

a plan B for what they

46:12

were going to do in the

46:14

finish. If his partner took a

46:16

bump that he was going to take on

46:18

fucking purpose and could not continue. That's

46:22

how stupid they are. I

46:24

have never in 40, whatever

46:26

fucking years in

46:28

the wrestling business, gone into a

46:32

finish having logically

46:35

in my mind, having to have a

46:37

plan B in case somebody gets so

46:39

hurt in what we have called so

46:41

far that they ain't there at the

46:43

end. Here's another thing

46:45

while I'm on the subject. You've

46:49

made, can you imagine? Okay.

46:52

If Darby doesn't care, then I find it

46:54

hard to work up a lot of sympathy.

46:56

You know me, I'm a warm hearted fella,

46:58

right? I love the kids and I love

47:00

the dogs. People,

47:03

exalts, able-bodied, not so

47:06

much, but for your hated kids. Well,

47:08

I love that. I love the handicap kids if

47:10

they're, if they're okay. Well,

47:14

you know, honestly, no, that's kind of the truth. That's

47:17

actually kind of the truth. But I feel

47:19

like some

47:21

people got short changed and they should be helped out. But

47:26

anyway, it's Sting's

47:28

retirement in Greensboro, North Carolina.

47:30

And it's there's 16,000

47:32

people in the Greensboro Coliseum, which

47:35

is the biggest, you

47:37

know, arena in the goddamn city. And it

47:40

was a high profile thing. Can

47:43

you imagine the headline the

47:45

next day? That Sting retirement

47:48

show pro wrestler is fill in

47:50

the blank, paralyzed, hospitalized,

47:55

neutralized, whatever lies. What?

48:00

would have been the newspapers, the

48:02

fucking TV news. Obviously,

48:04

in the wrestling industry,

48:07

yes, it would have been everywhere but it would have

48:09

been in the news for everybody to see

48:11

around that part of the country. And

48:14

at least, if not, and then nationally, it would

48:16

have got picked up on. And that's

48:18

what Sting's retirement match

48:21

would have been remembered for. And

48:24

people, and then they played the clip of

48:26

the bump and everybody in the country that

48:28

currently is not watching wrestling, which is a

48:31

lot more than there

48:33

are watching wrestling, would have said,

48:35

well, is that what those dumb,

48:37

stupid, motherfucking wrestlers are doing now?

48:40

No wonder I don't watch that shit anymore. Sting

48:46

was teaming up with some guy, Gigi Allen

48:48

or Bobby Crash? That must

48:50

have been Sting's grandson there.

48:52

He's a little like a 12 or

48:54

14 year old kid, dressed

48:56

up with his face painted like Sting. Wasn't

48:59

that cute? Till they fucking killed him. Well,

49:03

and I like Darby, but you know, now

49:06

that you've viewed him with Jack Perry, because Jack

49:08

Perry had issues with going through glass. The

49:10

Glass Doctor will fix your

49:18

pains. That's

49:20

a goddamn actual company. Anyway,

49:24

so now the other part of our AEW

49:28

legal update is,

49:31

and I want to give

49:33

a disclaimer at the top of the program, not

49:36

only do

49:38

Brian and I not have any

49:40

idea what actually happened between

49:42

B.J. Whitmer and the young lady that

49:45

was accusing him of the domestic violence,

49:48

we do not know her, I don't know her name, so I'm

49:50

not just trying to slough her off. But

49:54

also, we're not even trying to adjudicate that.

49:56

We are not attempting to give any guilt

49:58

or innocence to the young lady. of

50:01

either side of either party or claim

50:03

any knowledge of what actually occurred. And

50:07

it's not our business. But

50:10

there is one question

50:13

about this whole thing that

50:15

has come to light in the public

50:18

eye that we need to ask and

50:20

address that has nothing to do, I

50:23

would think particularly and that's the point

50:26

with any of the other actions of any

50:28

of the other people involved in this matter. BJ

50:32

Whitmer went to court. He was a

50:34

wrestler for many years then as of

50:36

late. He had

50:38

been working as a producer, agent, whatever

50:40

they call him these days for AW.

50:42

Since the beginning I think. Since the

50:44

beginning. Well, maybe we don't know for

50:47

sure, but since early on he had

50:49

been with Ring of Honor. Quite

50:52

a while back. But

50:54

the point is he was involved in

50:56

a domestic violence incident. He lives up

50:58

in Northern Kentucky. That's why everybody was

51:00

saying Kentucky. They were thinking

51:02

it was here in Northern Kentucky

51:05

and that district is around Cincinnati. Oh,

51:07

wow. So it's their fault. It's their

51:09

problem. Involved in domestic

51:11

violence, went to court. There was some

51:14

verdict given which I don't have the notes

51:17

on. I

51:19

believe you have some papers in front of you, but

51:21

I don't know what the specific plea

51:23

and deal and verdict and all that

51:26

stuff was. But

51:28

there was something that came to light in

51:30

the process of that

51:33

verdict and the paperwork and everything coming

51:35

out in public. And again, just

51:38

as mere small town bird

51:40

lawyers, Brian,

51:43

it basically came out that

51:47

I guess pretty quickly after, certainly it didn't

51:49

take as long for this to happen as

51:51

it did for this matter to wind its

51:53

way through the legal system. But

51:56

pretty quickly after this incident,

52:00

young lady that was

52:02

accusing BJ Whitmer of

52:04

the situation, AEW got

52:06

in contact with her in some

52:08

fashion or other or she got

52:10

in contact with them and they

52:14

gave her payments a

52:16

totaling, I believe the

52:18

figure thrown around was $40,000 and had her sign an

52:20

NDA. And

52:28

my question is, for what?

52:34

How was AEW involved in

52:36

this as an entity? And

52:39

I was trying to draw the comparison earlier, I

52:42

don't know how to explain it otherwise than if

52:45

a telephone repairman

52:48

who works for the phone

52:50

company gets involved

52:52

in a domestic incident is arrested, goes

52:55

to jail. Yes,

52:58

they should be found out,

53:00

prosecuted, full extent of the law,

53:02

punished, whatever the fuck, but how

53:04

is the phone company responsible? What

53:06

responsibility or what reason

53:09

do they have to get involved

53:11

and to give the

53:13

victim if they want to even give the

53:15

victim, oh, we feel bad

53:18

that something happened to you. So

53:21

here's some money to help you with your various

53:23

issues, but then why sign an

53:26

NDA? Because that would

53:28

just be a charitable thing to

53:30

do rather than expecting silence for

53:32

it based on presumption

53:34

of guilt of the company which

53:37

they didn't have anything to do with it. So

53:40

why are they just handing this fucking money out is

53:42

my question. We don't know.

53:45

And again, you just kind of said all the things that are

53:47

in the document here. But if we go to it and you

53:49

go to why under Section

53:51

3, this is from the sentencing

53:53

memo, Considerations for Commonwealth's Offer of

53:55

a Plea of Guilty, because they

53:57

gave them Alfred Plea. And

54:00

that's, if you know the case of

54:02

the West Memphis Three, they

54:04

eventually got Alfred please. They

54:06

maintain their innocence, but they

54:08

say they're guilty because

54:10

there's a chance that the prosecutor

54:13

could win. Well, actually,

54:15

no, I've even got a better one.

54:18

I think I may have put one of these in in the past.

54:22

You maintain your innocence,

54:25

but you recognize or

54:27

acknowledge that the

54:30

verdict would probably be against

54:32

you or that they

54:34

have enough, there is enough evidence to

54:37

receive a verdict against you or something like

54:39

that. That's technically the way

54:41

that they phrase it. Well, in

54:43

this section here, during the pendency

54:45

of this case, the Commonwealth was

54:47

provided with a significant amount of

54:49

reciprocal discovery. Due

54:52

to this discovery and other

54:54

events, the Commonwealth

54:56

was required to reevaluate its position

54:59

on an appropriate resolution. The

55:02

most significant information was

55:04

that Ms. Hawn received a cash settlement and

55:07

signed a nondisclosure agreement with AEW,

55:10

the defendant's employer. The

55:13

Commonwealth was aware that Ms.

55:15

Hawn had been in contact with

55:17

AEW shortly after the incident. However,

55:19

the extent was unknown. Defense

55:23

Council first provided the Commonwealth a confirmation

55:26

that Ms. Hawn had been given financial assistance

55:29

and a settlement from AEW. The

55:32

Commonwealth was required to let the defense

55:34

know that they were unaware of any such

55:37

agreement. AEW reached

55:39

out to Ms. Hawn to notify

55:41

her they had been contacted by the

55:43

Defense Council. Ms. Hawn

55:45

then reached out to the Commonwealth to explain the timeline

55:48

of events leading to that

55:50

settlement. Pursuant to

55:52

the rules of discovery, the Commonwealth

55:54

disclosed a summary of Ms. Hawn's statement

55:56

to Defense Council, including that Ms.

55:58

Hawn had received a proximal $20,000

56:00

from AEW. Defense

56:04

counsel provided further reciprocal

56:06

discovery outlining payments made

56:08

to Ms. Hahn by AEW

56:12

beginning on June 16, 2023 that totaled in excess of $40,000. Ms.

56:19

Hahn also provided email communications between

56:21

AEW and herself. The

56:24

Commonwealth anticipates that Ms. Hahn would testify

56:26

at trial that her emails

56:29

to AEW were meant to be informational and

56:31

she had no intention of seeking compensation.

56:35

Now, if she reached out to AEW, I will put money

56:37

on this. She was going

56:39

directly to Mega Perique. This

56:41

reeks of Mega Perique.

56:44

I did not intend for that to

56:46

rhyme, but it fucking rhymed. I did

56:48

not intend that this reeks of Mega

56:50

Perique. She got too involved in something.

56:53

All of a sudden they're making payoffs

56:55

and having an NDA. What's the NDA

56:57

for? What did the company do? Nothing.

57:00

That's the point. We are actually maintaining

57:03

AEW and Tony Khan's innocence. They're paying

57:05

people for shit they had nothing to

57:07

do with. We will pay

57:09

you, but you have to sign this and shut

57:12

up about it. That's what that is. That's the

57:14

thing. It's not like, you know, because the defenders

57:16

out there, the people who

57:18

are drinking the Tony Kade, the

57:21

Tony-Aid instead of

57:24

the Kool-Aid, they're going to say,

57:26

well, he was trying to be nice to this woman

57:28

that was abused

57:31

in some fashion. Well,

57:33

then why have I sat in non-disclosure? Don't

57:36

tell anybody about it. I don't want any

57:38

publicity. I'm a nice guy. But no, it

57:40

has to come up in a goddamn deposition

57:43

under oath. That's

57:46

what I'm saying. There was no responsibility

57:50

here on the part of a company.

57:52

Dahmer worked for

57:55

a candy factory, right? Did

57:58

they sue the candy factory? I

58:02

don't understand. He's just giving people money.

58:05

But he's wanting them

58:07

to hush up about what? Yeah.

58:10

What was the woman going to say? That

58:12

working for AEW had driven my spouse

58:16

into a blind rage when he

58:18

was beating me? What the

58:20

fuck? Here's the other question, and I have

58:22

to dive through this further. Not everything obviously

58:24

is in the sentencing memo. But

58:27

when did they pay her? Did they pay her as

58:29

soon as BJ Whitmer was arrested? Was

58:32

it just that simple? He did this to... Was

58:34

it before that? I don't know the timeline of events

58:36

of when things were alleged

58:38

to have happened, not taking any sides here. I

58:41

think it's despicable to beat up your wife or

58:43

whatever the fuck is alleged. Not taking any sides.

58:46

But when was the

58:49

communication between her and

58:51

AEW, and I'm going to

58:53

presume once again the AEW legal department, who

58:55

would be the one signing off on all this, when

58:58

was that communication and when were the payments?

59:01

Because it's one for $20,000, then it says $40,000. So

59:05

when was this money disbursed?

59:09

Because obviously BJ Whitmer was not convicted of

59:11

anything. This Alfred plea is

59:13

just recent. This just happened. Yeah, this was

59:15

last week. And

59:17

also, the way that

59:19

they phrased it may have slipped

59:22

by some people, but the

59:24

document there said that the

59:27

young woman said that her email was

59:30

just meant to be informational. In

59:33

other words, she wasn't like, give me money, or I'm

59:36

going to fucking do this, that, or the other thing. It

59:38

was like, here, I want to tell you what this asshole

59:40

is doing. Your employee did this to me. I want you

59:43

to know. That's what it sounds like. Yes.

59:47

And is it an oh shit? Well, give

59:49

her some money and have her sign an NDA.

59:51

Don't have her talk bad about I don't know

59:54

what. Or

59:56

you know, but again.

1:00:00

It's awfully easy to get Tony

1:00:02

scared for his life, isn't it?

1:00:06

Wow. And

1:00:08

again, they terminated B.J. Whitmer right away.

1:00:12

And then, again, I need the timeline of

1:00:14

when everything happened. I think

1:00:16

they arrested him pretty quickly after

1:00:18

the incident happened, if I do recall. You

1:00:21

know, I didn't know that particular

1:00:23

factoid was going to need to be applied

1:00:26

to this. But I

1:00:28

think they arrested him pretty quickly and

1:00:30

they fired him pretty quickly. What

1:00:34

the fuck is Mega Perique doing? Eh, whatever. Now,

1:00:37

you can only cast a spray at just reeks of

1:00:39

Perique. It doesn't mean that it was... It's like that

1:00:41

Linda McMahon shit with the fucking ring boys back in

1:00:43

the day. Like, oh, we really do like you and

1:00:45

we're going to actually bring you back and give you

1:00:48

a great job. Here's a bunch of money. Just sign

1:00:50

this. Not

1:00:52

to compare the two things, but it's just... Linda's

1:00:54

in Florida. She had nothing to do with

1:00:57

this. Do not compare those things. Mega's in

1:00:59

Florida. Jacksonville, Florida. To be specific. Well, maybe

1:01:01

Linda is teaching a class that Mega

1:01:04

has gone to in career advancement and

1:01:06

corporate policy. Another

1:01:08

member of the winning team over at AEWG's. And you

1:01:10

hear from fans every now and then, you guys are

1:01:12

awful. You're mean to her because she's a woman. No.

1:01:16

No. We're mean to her

1:01:18

because she's mediocre at her job.

1:01:20

You guys alluded to the fact that she may

1:01:22

have had relations with wrestlers. We didn't allude

1:01:24

to anything. We said she had relations with

1:01:26

wrestlers. She's going to sue.

1:01:28

No, she's not. Really.

1:01:31

At some point you guys got to realize we tell the truth. Some

1:01:34

of you wake up to it. But unfortunately it's about

1:01:36

your favorite company you pretend like we're doing something wrong

1:01:38

by telling the truth. You're

1:01:40

ruining my fantasies and my dreams. Wake

1:01:43

up. Wait a minute.

1:01:45

I've heard that before. In my sleep. Are

1:01:48

you... are you in my room? In

1:01:52

my head, Brian? Ugh.

1:01:56

Eh. Eh. Eh. You

1:01:58

like one of those inner sanctum mysteries. You

1:02:01

need to be the face in

1:02:03

the fucking crystal ball. It's

1:02:06

no another origin. I would like the

1:02:08

mystery. Yes. Well,

1:02:10

you know, the moral to the story

1:02:12

is basically, as we've just illustrated over

1:02:14

the last little while here, if

1:02:17

you have any minor association

1:02:21

or interaction with AEW or

1:02:24

Tony Khan and something happens

1:02:26

that could potentially reflect bad on him or he

1:02:29

thinks it could, he will give you money

1:02:32

no matter how closely affiliated that

1:02:34

your instance is or your incident

1:02:36

is to anything that

1:02:38

he's actually responsible for. He

1:02:41

will give you money. Hey, let's see what happens now. You

1:02:43

know, they just fired Kevin Kelly. I

1:02:46

just read about on the Internet. They fired

1:02:48

nobody. They fired – you could do anything

1:02:50

in that company. They'll send

1:02:52

you home and pay you. They fired CM

1:02:54

Punk. They fired Jimmy Havoc.

1:02:58

They fired Kevin Kelly. Unless Kevin

1:03:00

Kelly was walking around with his dick out, yelling,

1:03:02

pussy, pussy, they

1:03:06

better have a damn good reason for firing him and there's going

1:03:08

to be the next payoff. I would –

1:03:10

knowing Kevin, as I do,

1:03:12

I would think that he wasn't yelling pussy,

1:03:15

pussy, and I

1:03:18

don't believe he'd have had his dick out. And

1:03:20

even then you couldn't even really have

1:03:22

told because he's, you know, not

1:03:25

that big. He could have probably hidden

1:03:27

it in his – in the shirt – with

1:03:30

his shirt untucked. But

1:03:32

anyway, we will –

1:03:35

we're going to keep up on the

1:03:37

TNA legal updates. TNA? Or

1:03:39

TNA – Jesus Christ. It seems like that's what

1:03:41

it seems like. Well,

1:03:44

we're going to keep up with the AEW, NDAs,

1:03:46

and legal updates. Good

1:03:51

Lord. But that's the

1:03:53

point, Brian, is if

1:03:55

you have – if you go to a show now and you

1:03:58

have any kind of compulsion, against AEW or

1:04:00

Tony Khan, you could pretty much go home

1:04:02

and sleep like a baby. Because

1:04:05

you're gonna be farting through

1:04:07

silk pretty soon, you're gonna be a

1:04:09

millionaire, you're gonna be rolling

1:04:11

in dough because he'll pay you whatever

1:04:14

it takes for you to sign that

1:04:16

NDA, so sleep like a baby people.

1:04:19

But you know what Brian, if

1:04:22

you can't figure out a way to lodge

1:04:24

any kind of frivolous complaint about AEW and

1:04:26

Tony Khan to get those millions of dollars

1:04:28

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goddamn ducks that they pluck these

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feathers off of to Stephanie's mattresses were

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forced to serve... two years in

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the US military, so they're true patriots. No,

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there's no duck forage of military service or

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anything like that. Well, that's what I was

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told. We don't know anything about the ducks.

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Now you're talking about ducks. You don't know

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anything about where they get their stuff. They're

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all American ducks. You're

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not sending your money to fucking foreign menace

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depending on the model that you get, most of

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you are not going to live that long, so

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you won't have dick to complain about. And

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if you're 50 right now in 15 years,

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you're going to be shitting in this mattress

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inadvertently over the course of the night

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anyway. So what the fuck are you

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going to complain about? You're good for the rest of your life

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with one of these things. And

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did I mention no hazardous material? And

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they've got kids' mattresses specially

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designed with the kids in mind.

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So it's kind of like, you know, they got

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one that's kind of like a bouncy house. You

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take your kid, throw him about three feet in

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the air, he hits this thing, boom, he'll bounce

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up and hit the ceiling. That's not advisable, and

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there's no guarantees of how far anyone will bounce,

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and you're not supposed to bounce people off the mattress.

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Well, they're easier to bounce if they're under

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six. But these are designed

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for children 3 to 12 years old. They're

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designed for sleep. Let's be specific. Yes, well, you

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know, I'll tell you what, one good bump

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on the head at that age, you'll sleep all

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night. But folks, right now-

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zero bumps on your bump card if you sleep

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mattress. If a lot of you people out there, if

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you're listening to us but you're not doing well and

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you don't have any furniture in your house, hey,

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that's the way Randy Savage used to live back

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when he was a starving wrestler. Just put the

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mattress right down on the floor, because if it's

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a Helix, it'll make the floor

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feel good. And you'll

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float away into Dreamland. And that's

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probably what's contributing to your

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lack of fucking furniture because you're

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sleeping so much- you're not going out and

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getting a job and working to pay for

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out of a cooler, out of a freezer, out

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fuck your body temperature drops 10, 12

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degrees. It does not. That would

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certainly be unhealthy and it would advise to

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say these things that are not true. You

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don't sweat when you sleep overnight. You

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don't even, you don't even realize

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when you're waking up, you're numb completely because

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of the cold. No, you are not. It

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is not that cold. It is just a

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pillow over and of course you will wake

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they have just the right amount of,

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of coldness, but not, you have no

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especially if we keep doing spots like this. So

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do it now before you forget

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about it. Sleep good. Like

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a good cult member should on a

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helix sleep mattress and. into

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a cloud of ecstasy.

1:10:05

Well Jim, let's go from the cloud of

1:10:07

ecstasy back to reality, I guess, and

1:10:09

back to the world of wrestling as we know

1:10:11

it. Well and we want

1:10:14

to talk about the AEW, we

1:10:16

don't really want to talk about it but we're

1:10:18

going to the AEW television program for March the

1:10:20

6th but first I just heard this

1:10:22

morning and I wanted to make mention of it that

1:10:25

Jay Lethal's mother Shirley

1:10:27

Shipman passed away apparently I guess

1:10:30

yesterday as we're recording this and

1:10:33

boy just her and his

1:10:35

father both used to come to Jay's

1:10:38

matches, they supported him from when

1:10:40

he first started training and they

1:10:42

were at all of his matches

1:10:44

early on in the Northeast and

1:10:46

before he was traveling everywhere and

1:10:48

they're real nice people and they did

1:10:51

the angle with Jay

1:10:53

and Steen in very

1:10:55

near his hometown, I can't remember the little

1:10:57

town in New Jersey that we were in

1:10:59

but it was like five or ten miles

1:11:01

from Jay's hometown and they

1:11:03

were in the front row for his title match and the

1:11:06

guys were fighting out on the floor in

1:11:09

front of them and I think

1:11:12

it was Jay's dad throws the drink in Steen's

1:11:17

face because he's abusing their son and

1:11:19

Steen thinks it's a fan and turns

1:11:21

around and spits at him and it

1:11:23

spits on Jay's mother and

1:11:26

Jay comes up and goes berserk and

1:11:28

they have this big arena brawl double

1:11:30

count out. What we were doing was

1:11:33

we didn't know for sure whether

1:11:36

we were going to be able to get and

1:11:39

everybody seemed to want good

1:11:41

old El Generico for

1:11:44

a final battle that year

1:11:46

and we were shooting an angle because I

1:11:48

would have rather gone with Jay Lethal versus

1:11:50

Kevin Steen for the Ring of Honor championship

1:11:52

to begin with but the other guys wanted

1:11:54

one more farewell match. Why didn't you know

1:11:57

if you would get them? Because

1:11:59

this is when he wasn't under contract and he

1:12:01

was being fishy because they were promising him that

1:12:03

they'd bring him into, or was

1:12:06

NXT or if it was FCW back in those

1:12:08

days or whatever it was. So

1:12:10

we weren't sure. And I was like, I

1:12:13

don't even want to get off on this,

1:12:15

but I was like, we're count down to

1:12:17

these guys in this day for this indie,

1:12:19

you know, dream match when we need

1:12:21

to build Jay Lethal as our top

1:12:23

star, but nevertheless. Um,

1:12:26

so that was an angle that they worked

1:12:28

with us in. And anyway,

1:12:30

they were big fans of Jay's work as

1:12:32

I am. And we're sorry to hear

1:12:34

about his mother passing away. And we

1:12:37

just wanted to make mention of that before we

1:12:39

talk about this television program, which

1:12:41

Jay was actually on briefly for a

1:12:43

second. Imagine that. It's

1:12:46

nice to see, but nevertheless,

1:12:49

we go to Atlanta, Georgia

1:12:51

for AW dynamite. We weren't

1:12:53

actually in Atlanta. They're in

1:12:56

the gas South arena.

1:12:59

Apparently now in Atlanta, there's just arenas popping

1:13:01

up all over the place. If, if you

1:13:04

didn't back in the day, if

1:13:06

you didn't go to the Omni, you pretty much

1:13:08

were out in the fucking flea market, but it

1:13:11

was dark. It assumed, I

1:13:14

assumed rather that it looked so dark

1:13:16

because it was mostly empty. I don't

1:13:18

know how big it was. Do

1:13:21

we have any quotation on how

1:13:23

they did in this thing? Cause there was

1:13:25

some hollow sounding things that went on. Uh,

1:13:28

we do have the attendance. I would have

1:13:30

to double check somewhere for what was

1:13:32

actually the building capacity, but hold on, a,

1:13:34

E W dynamite. Uh,

1:13:37

I surprised you with that. You did

1:13:39

on March 6th, the gas South arena

1:13:41

Duluth, Georgia. There were 3,246

1:13:43

tickets distributed. Uh,

1:13:47

the previous time they were there, just according to wrestle

1:13:49

ticks, August 23rd, 2023 for

1:13:52

dynamite, they drew 5,343. Yeah.

1:13:56

She slid down a couple thousand, but

1:13:59

that's tickets distributed. Not actually, everybody

1:14:01

didn't have to show up. That includes all

1:14:03

the comps they gave to the furniture store,

1:14:05

whatever. But nevertheless, Tony

1:14:07

Schiavone's in the ring. We're going to start

1:14:09

out with a bang with Swerve Strickland and

1:14:11

Prince Nana. And

1:14:15

immediately, Tony

1:14:17

gives the intro talking about how all

1:14:19

the fans love Swerve Strickland,

1:14:21

which they do. It's clear they're chanting Swerve's

1:14:23

house and cheering for him, but there's... It's

1:14:27

like the announcers have suddenly said, okay, well,

1:14:31

you were a heel doing the most dastardly

1:14:33

things and you've got a manager who also

1:14:35

manages other heels, but you've never done anything

1:14:37

really to turn. The people just started to

1:14:39

cheer for you. So now we're not going

1:14:41

to acknowledge all of that. And we're just

1:14:43

going to... The fans love you! And

1:14:48

not as a babyface manager, what you really think about

1:14:50

it, with the dancing and everything, how are you going

1:14:52

to do that? And well, yeah, well, when he comes

1:14:54

to that, well, we'll talk about the other guys in

1:14:56

a minute. But

1:14:58

he... Swerve

1:15:01

does the promo talking about, well, Joe won at

1:15:03

the pay-per-view. Hey, is it karma for all the

1:15:05

bad things that I've done? I've

1:15:08

done some pretty bad things around here. Hey! Am

1:15:12

I just supposed to be an also...

1:15:14

He's got the doubt going on. He's

1:15:16

doubting himself. It's terrible

1:15:18

when people have doubt about them. And

1:15:20

Swerve takes the microphone and leaves Tony

1:15:23

standing there just... Tony not

1:15:25

only goes and stands in the corner, but he just

1:15:27

stares off out of the ring. While

1:15:29

this shit's going on, if

1:15:31

he's going to be in the ring and conduct

1:15:33

the interview, him being in the ring, conduct

1:15:36

the interview. He's not, don't. He just stands there

1:15:38

holding his cock. So

1:15:43

Swerve then says

1:15:46

Greensboro was different because the people,

1:15:48

they flew from Washington. They were

1:15:50

rooting for me. They wanted me

1:15:52

to win. And because

1:15:54

of that, I'm not going to let you

1:15:56

down. So now he's just... I'm coming for

1:15:58

Samoa Joe. He probably... that he

1:16:00

would beat Samoa Joe for the title. So

1:16:02

apparently, because you know

1:16:04

that Tony has read the rule

1:16:07

of thumb that babyfaces never promise anything

1:16:09

they can't deliver on the Internet, that

1:16:12

means Swerve's winning the title. But

1:16:15

now, so he's just full-fledged babyface now, they've

1:16:17

gone with that. And then

1:16:19

Joe's music plays, and

1:16:21

Joe had a good line. He

1:16:23

said, you're making promises you can't keep

1:16:26

because your house unfortunately exists in my

1:16:28

world. And

1:16:31

so Swerve's answer to that is, well, we're dressed to wrestle.

1:16:33

We don't have to wait. Let's do it tonight. As a

1:16:35

matter of fact, let's do it right now. Total

1:16:39

babyface. See? It's just,

1:16:41

yeah. So

1:16:43

then, as he says that, the

1:16:47

undisputed era of the

1:16:49

kingdom of the

1:16:52

spiders. And what is their name? They

1:16:55

used to be the undisputed era, now they're the

1:16:57

undisputed kingdom. Adam Cole and the Job Squad. Oh

1:17:02

my God, where in the world

1:17:04

are those shirts with you? Tony should buy that trademark. He's

1:17:07

built one. He doesn't even realize it. So

1:17:10

Adam Cole wheels out in a wheelchair with

1:17:13

Roderick Strong and Matt Taven and Mike Bennett

1:17:15

and Wardlow. And Taven and Bennett, as we

1:17:17

know, are the Ring of Honor World Tag

1:17:19

Team Champions. And

1:17:22

I'm not sure if they could get any takers for those

1:17:24

belts at a pawn shop. And

1:17:27

Adam's now, but he doesn't have the Adam

1:17:29

Cole music. It's the fucking whatever heel music

1:17:31

they're playing. Nobody

1:17:34

is ready for story time with Adam Cole,

1:17:36

baby. And

1:17:39

he tries to put these guys over, and

1:17:41

there might be a chance of him succeeding

1:17:43

at that, as we've mentioned. Not only

1:17:47

hadn't been beaten like

1:17:49

government mules, but continued

1:17:51

to be beaten

1:17:54

in a fashion that only

1:17:56

losers can fulfill. And

1:18:00

Eddie tells Samoa Joe he's champion because

1:18:02

they let it happen. Nobody remembers that

1:18:04

at this point. Do

1:18:07

they? Has that just, it's

1:18:09

just lost. And

1:18:12

Wardlow is going to win the AEW title

1:18:14

very soon. I bet you that ain't going to

1:18:16

happen. And then

1:18:18

Swerve knocked Cole's guys and Cole said,

1:18:20

well, next week we'll just have Matt

1:18:22

Taven and Mike Bennett versus Swerve and

1:18:24

Samoa Joe. And Swerve's like, well, why

1:18:26

wait? Good boy. He's, he's

1:18:29

full of vim and vigor there. And

1:18:32

Adam said, no, no, it'll be next week. And

1:18:34

as soon as he, as

1:18:36

soon as he said that Tony

1:18:38

Shavani chimed in out of wherever

1:18:40

he was, they didn't even remember to turn

1:18:42

his microphone on at first. And

1:18:45

he said, no, I just heard from

1:18:47

Tony Khan, the match is on right

1:18:50

now. I swear the decision was made

1:18:53

by Tony Khan under 10 seconds

1:18:55

after the challenge was uttered. It's,

1:18:59

I mean, it's almost like it's being

1:19:01

sent out by mental telepathy. He's on

1:19:03

the goddamn headset agreeing

1:19:05

to something that hadn't been pitched yet. And

1:19:10

then they just started the match. And

1:19:12

so suddenly Swerve is teaming with

1:19:14

Samoa Joe. Did

1:19:17

we ever hear what Swerve thought about that?

1:19:19

Or he just went along with it without

1:19:21

saying a word. Boodoo a goose as Adrian

1:19:23

street would say. Well, once Tony Shavani says

1:19:26

something, it's official. Well, cause it

1:19:28

came from Tony Khan, who's a telepath.

1:19:32

All righty. So

1:19:35

they have the magic and Joe beats the heels up

1:19:37

for a while and then Swerve beat the heels up

1:19:39

and then Swerve beat

1:19:41

Taven flat and middle one, two, three. It

1:19:43

was in minutes. So,

1:19:47

so these guys, and

1:19:49

then the ring of honor tag champions, right? Yes.

1:19:51

They're the greatest ring of honor

1:19:53

tag team champions of all time. I believe was

1:19:55

the phrase and they were

1:19:58

beaten by makeshift tag team. that

1:20:00

doesn't like each other in minutes with

1:20:04

very little offense. And then as Swerve was

1:20:06

staring back at the rest of them like

1:20:08

he wants some more, Joe walks up behind

1:20:10

him and grabs Sleeper on him and choked

1:20:12

him out. What

1:20:21

is there to even say about that? I mean, the booking

1:20:23

is so bad. Ring of Honor.

1:20:26

Let's just talk about Ring of Honor real quick, whatever

1:20:28

that is. Because

1:20:30

they treated their tag champions the way Triple H

1:20:33

used to treat everyone in the first part of

1:20:35

the century. Every tag team, Triple

1:20:37

H would beat them. Ring of

1:20:39

Honor tag champions beat by this makeshift team of two

1:20:41

guys who hate each other. In

1:20:44

minutes, in minutes, in

1:20:47

minutes, it took

1:20:49

Will Ostrich, I'm going

1:20:51

to say seven times as

1:20:55

long as this match was to

1:20:58

beat Kyle Felcher. And the

1:21:00

other problem is the undisputed kingdom. No one cares

1:21:02

about him. Well, of course not. Because

1:21:05

look, what- The feud with MJF

1:21:08

had the reverse effect that it shouldn't. It caused people

1:21:10

just not to want to see any of these people.

1:21:14

And again, poor Mike Bennett. What

1:21:17

the fuck has happened to his hair? Alrighty.

1:21:23

For later on in the program, the

1:21:26

douchebag twins were out to let us know

1:21:28

that they have two big announcements later on.

1:21:32

So we got that going for us. And

1:21:35

then they had an FTW

1:21:37

title match between Hook and

1:21:40

Brian Cage. Hook is, he's

1:21:43

rangy as they used to say. He's

1:21:47

got that slim physique to him. And Brian

1:21:49

Cage is a walking steroid

1:21:53

injection. And

1:21:58

it's a- It's

1:22:00

a title that was made specifically

1:22:02

to not be sanctioned, to be

1:22:04

carried by Taz at ECW with

1:22:06

the whole campaign, whatever the fuck.

1:22:09

But now they're having sanctioned

1:22:11

matches for this title that's not supposed to...

1:22:13

The whole idea of Fuck the World is

1:22:16

it ain't sanctioned. And

1:22:19

because it's the FTW title, they're

1:22:21

garbage matches with weapons and

1:22:24

thumbtacks and chairs and garbage

1:22:26

cans and lazy booking. For

1:22:30

no reason with just two fucking guys that,

1:22:32

you know, they just put together.

1:22:36

And I think Cage was dressed as

1:22:38

either a video game character or they

1:22:40

just pulled him out of a Halloween

1:22:42

party. And

1:22:46

Hook somehow beats

1:22:49

this guy that's 100 pounds bigger than

1:22:51

he is in his garbage match. And

1:22:53

then that's when the

1:22:55

rest of Prince Nana's heels hit

1:22:57

the ring and attack Hook. You

1:23:01

remember Prince Nana's other heels, the

1:23:05

various crew of job guy preliminary

1:23:07

heels that he manages when he's

1:23:10

not managing the most

1:23:12

popular babyface in the company. Now,

1:23:15

he didn't come out with them. Maybe

1:23:19

over the last week, he's seen the light

1:23:21

and dropped these guys like a bad habit.

1:23:25

But yeah, they come out and they beat up Hook.

1:23:27

And then Jericho comes out with a baseball bat and

1:23:29

everybody runs away without him being able to hit him

1:23:31

because I don't think they wanted him. He hit one

1:23:33

guy and the guy's like, oh, shit, let me get

1:23:36

out of here. So

1:23:39

what the fuck

1:23:41

is going on? What was

1:23:43

this purpose could this serve?

1:23:46

And with Nana, they should just do something where

1:23:49

he sells his stable to Smart Mark Sterling or

1:23:51

something and moves on just him and Swerve because

1:23:53

that works. Maybe he

1:23:55

could trade him for weed. The

1:23:58

lack of reaction to Jericho, even when he's in the house. when

1:24:00

they try to gimmick up the potential

1:24:02

for a reaction with the music and everything, it's

1:24:04

growing. He's looking worse out

1:24:06

there, but the lack of reaction is growing.

1:24:09

This is what we said was going to happen. And

1:24:11

they're going to try to tie him the hook. Let's

1:24:14

see if that helps hook. If

1:24:16

it's a job stable you're feuding with, it's a job stable

1:24:18

and that's the way they've been treated. How

1:24:21

many more years he got on that 10

1:24:23

year contract, Jericho? About

1:24:26

eight? Maybe he'll hit, you know,

1:24:29

he'll get a second wind at some point.

1:24:33

He might need oxygen by

1:24:35

then. But so

1:24:37

then we got Dino douche

1:24:39

against MacDaddy. Now MacDaddy, after

1:24:41

he broke off from being

1:24:43

just one of the Jericho

1:24:45

appreciators, he's a part-time color commentator.

1:24:48

He likes to run down and

1:24:50

make saves in underneath and preliminary

1:24:52

matches. And now he's wrestling

1:24:55

the lizard and

1:24:57

the lizard beat him fairly quickly

1:25:01

and then got some more heat on

1:25:03

him. And then here came Daniel Garcia

1:25:05

making the save with the sloppiest worst

1:25:07

punches that I have seen in a

1:25:10

wrestling ring in a long time. I don't

1:25:13

know what the fuck. Again, anytime

1:25:15

they put this guy in a position to

1:25:17

impress me with anything, if

1:25:20

he's so great and he can do all these havoc

1:25:22

and corona's off the top rope and all of these

1:25:25

Japanese crotch-locked leg strangles, why can't he

1:25:28

throw a punch that doesn't look like

1:25:30

a fucking awkward fucking

1:25:32

12 year old girl with braces on her

1:25:34

teeth? Explain

1:25:37

that one to me, Lucy. Maybe he's never thrown

1:25:39

a punch? Well, he

1:25:41

needs to fucking practice then. Instead of doing

1:25:43

all his goddamn 20 minute

1:25:45

Japanese bullshit, figure out how to look

1:25:47

like you're in a fight. Dumb

1:25:50

shit. Give me advice. How should he practice it? What

1:25:52

should he do? Good

1:25:54

luck. He's got a crazy schedule. Once a week,

1:25:56

he has to go to a show. Oh my

1:25:58

God. God, somebody

1:26:01

needs to fucking show him. Then

1:26:05

he needs to do it over and over until

1:26:07

he can do it without potato in anybody. Now

1:26:10

that I've said that, who there is going to show

1:26:12

him? And then it

1:26:14

would require him to listen, but then I'm sure

1:26:16

the other kids have said, Oh no, we trade

1:26:18

chops now. So

1:26:21

then Nick plane jumped in and

1:26:24

they stopped Garcia and they got

1:26:26

some really slow lackluster heat and

1:26:29

then walked off. But

1:26:31

suddenly from the

1:26:34

entrance way, edge appeared and threw

1:26:36

the lizard off the stage and

1:26:39

choked Nick plane out and then

1:26:42

began menacing Christian cage. And

1:26:45

suddenly Nick's mom came up behind edge and

1:26:48

tried to nut shot him, but he blocked

1:26:50

it. Not really if you go back and

1:26:52

watch it in slow motion because she didn't

1:26:54

give him the eggy, right? But he

1:26:56

got it. It was close enough. And

1:26:59

then after blocking the nut shot, he

1:27:01

chased Christian cage out through the arena

1:27:04

through several areas of the backstage

1:27:08

where cameras were strategically placed

1:27:10

to catch the, the

1:27:12

chase scene, even though they weren't chasing the

1:27:14

guys from behind, they were ahead of them.

1:27:18

So they put them along their entire route out

1:27:20

of the building. And

1:27:22

then Christian carjacked

1:27:24

some guy in an SUV and, and

1:27:27

drove off and edge turned to the

1:27:29

camera and issued a challenge for

1:27:31

March 20th,

1:27:34

Toronto TNT title. I

1:27:36

quit match. First

1:27:39

of all, I thought this program was over. What

1:27:42

in this program over? It'll never be

1:27:44

over. Didn't we want it

1:27:46

to be over? We wanted it to be over or

1:27:49

at least redone from the beginning. Well,

1:27:51

it ain't over. But

1:27:54

secondly, this one Tony beat

1:27:56

his record time from earlier.

1:27:59

I swear. The guy five seconds after

1:28:02

age uttered those words sought

1:28:04

face was saying tony Com

1:28:06

has made it official. Up

1:28:09

the. Heat. Is a Job. Press

1:28:11

the button on the I've Be and speak to a

1:28:13

goddamn. Is it? Anyway,

1:28:22

As. Was also lives of ordinary was

1:28:24

also our Sons of Anarchy edge my

1:28:26

courage. Will ever

1:28:28

be replaced by a to run

1:28:30

he brought he really yeah he

1:28:32

really also he backslide zone his

1:28:34

personal grooming and his. His.

1:28:37

Attire would he comes out to the slum

1:28:39

in the indies like this. Oh.

1:28:42

Just spreading of slumming and me

1:28:45

undies. Did you see run? Mostly

1:28:47

good with Carlo Rally. I.

1:28:50

Did? I couldn't tell if his shirt was dirty

1:28:52

from my sweat stains of that was the design.

1:28:55

Has with the whole interview. fascinating about

1:28:57

that know it was sweat stains and

1:28:59

you were on to the most interesting

1:29:01

thing about the interview. They.

1:29:03

Brought him back. In

1:29:06

the ridiculous where they brought back it's pay

1:29:08

per view where he just comes in look

1:29:10

like of a hobo this been sleeping under

1:29:12

a bench. And whispers

1:29:14

to fuckin' Roddy.

1:29:16

And then walks out. and now he's

1:29:19

in a sweaty, dirty t shirt and

1:29:21

a baseball cap. Saying.

1:29:24

That he didn't think you'd ever russell again for

1:29:26

a while. He's grateful to get a second chance.

1:29:28

At he's fallen down the mountain, but now

1:29:30

he's. He's. Gotta do it on

1:29:32

his own rather than be with his friends. I

1:29:35

think that's what he say and because he is.

1:29:38

He. Didn't make any declared if statements. he

1:29:40

beat around the bush and it looked like

1:29:42

what he was thirty five fallen down the

1:29:44

mountain that he. Had some

1:29:46

kind of my personal problems the way

1:29:48

he's dressed and looking. So

1:29:51

he said nothing in it. What he did say didn't

1:29:53

make a lot of sense and this is the way

1:29:55

that they're. Read. Debuting

1:29:58

him. From. A. The

1:30:00

illegitimate potential career ending.

1:30:03

Injury. And

1:30:05

he he does backstage pre tapes and walks

1:30:08

into the ring or he looks like a

1:30:10

bomb and says nothing. How.

1:30:12

Is this interesting? How

1:30:15

would this a keen eye on the

1:30:17

wrestling is ever gotten the bombs and

1:30:19

right there's never really been other always

1:30:21

a bomb but to wrestle. And.

1:30:23

Always so there was something I could have been done.

1:30:26

Maybe. Just a chance. To.

1:30:28

Some Washington or Southern right? Whale

1:30:31

oh that's awful bad weather up there to be

1:30:33

sleep without a slot. A Bombs a lot of

1:30:35

bombs. Buttons everywhere so he to buy it. May.

1:30:38

Be Darby found him on Gamal. He. Brought

1:30:41

him back. Was. Begun

1:30:43

to bombs. We. Were

1:30:46

at the nine o'clock hour. And

1:30:48

out came the Lollipop Guild. Brian the

1:30:51

Rock is gonna be on the Oscars

1:30:53

and a buck a ruse. Weren't even

1:30:55

runners up for the Wrestling Observer Newsletter

1:30:57

awards is that. Is. That

1:31:00

an ironic a situation.

1:31:03

Much. As irony. but it's it's something.

1:31:06

Well. As like rain on

1:31:08

of wedding day. That's not

1:31:10

irony either. Well. I was

1:31:12

in the song. It's like

1:31:14

having one hand in your pocket. And

1:31:17

the other one flesh a peace sign that's

1:31:19

a different song while parts about were different

1:31:21

song. Will. Anyway,

1:31:23

so at nine o'clock

1:31:25

the the new generic

1:31:28

piano music plays. Now.

1:31:31

They're not do enough ago and they were do

1:31:33

and in what was it? Dunder. Struck

1:31:36

whenever I know some cannibal a

1:31:38

days. it's just. Boring.

1:31:40

As bullshit music, they raised

1:31:43

the. The. Marry a Nikki

1:31:45

up through the stage in the middle

1:31:47

of a fog bank. While.

1:31:50

They're wearing their finest. Duisburg.

1:31:53

Arry. and blow

1:31:55

off tarot after pyro ten the announcers

1:31:58

are talking about, well, look at all

1:32:00

the pyro they have and it went

1:32:02

to grandiose entrance. You know, the

1:32:05

EVPs have given themselves and

1:32:07

nobody's given a shit. Are

1:32:09

the people caring? Are

1:32:11

those people standing there staring and

1:32:14

mildly hooting this shit down, captivated

1:32:18

with this new presentation of these

1:32:20

two fucking

1:32:22

uterine cleansing devices? No.

1:32:26

I thought it was just me. So

1:32:29

they kicked Tony Schwanie out of the ring. They

1:32:32

ought to give Tony a fucking elevator over in

1:32:34

one corner. Him having to climb in

1:32:37

and out. And they

1:32:39

do a promo like two guys

1:32:41

working at a subway sandwich

1:32:43

shop, pretending to be wrestlers on

1:32:47

their break. Like, oh, we

1:32:49

saw this on TV and the guy said, I'm

1:32:52

going to tell you something.

1:32:54

And I

1:32:57

don't know what hang

1:32:59

they'll page. They announced that they

1:33:01

hated to do it, but he

1:33:03

attacked referees at the pay-per-view. So

1:33:05

he's suspended indefinitely from the elite.

1:33:09

Well, he's not a

1:33:11

he's a heel now. He's supposed to

1:33:13

wire these heels suspending

1:33:16

other another heel. And he's

1:33:18

not they're not suspending him from a they're

1:33:20

suspending him from the elite. Just

1:33:23

don't goddamn bring him up again. You fucking

1:33:25

morons. You think people care about your little

1:33:27

fucking boys club house that fucking much. We

1:33:30

don't care who's at your meeting when you have

1:33:32

the tree house thing all decked out. So

1:33:36

they've suspended another

1:33:38

heel from their little group.

1:33:42

And then they say Twinkle Toes disappeared for

1:33:44

no good reason. They're trying to get a

1:33:46

heat off of not being sympathetic

1:33:49

to Kenny's problem

1:33:51

with his lack of guts. So

1:33:54

they fired him from the elite. Because

1:33:57

He's a full fledged baby face. Fire

1:34:00

Him. And.

1:34:02

Then. It.

1:34:04

And and they're doing all this with

1:34:06

that satanist with you Just can't. Own

1:34:10

see earn hear that You know that they're

1:34:12

acting this way on purpose in their put

1:34:14

this on a nearby. They've got their

1:34:16

tongue in cheek about. It. And.

1:34:19

Eight here comes Eddie Kingston Music.

1:34:22

And he turns out the Reagan throws

1:34:24

about. His

1:34:26

eighty dollars in fuckin' tins. I

1:34:28

don't know what that was. Adam.

1:34:32

To pay his fire in advance

1:34:34

and then attacks the I'm In.

1:34:37

I. Can't even call it sloppy you

1:34:39

a of what was that he

1:34:41

nothing was connecting. Are they ducking

1:34:43

and. Flinching, Was he

1:34:46

just throwing sloppy? Pause.

1:34:48

In the air. What was going on with that? Fight

1:34:51

Quote Unquote. I. Don't know how

1:34:53

sad it as at every last week. First.

1:34:56

Time I saw my son's that was the greatest punch

1:34:58

have seen in awhile. Ever seen a

1:35:00

slowed a while. I don't

1:35:02

know what was going on there. Maybe he was

1:35:04

afraid that they, but he would potato women. They

1:35:06

really would. Funny. But. Anyway,

1:35:08

they get him down. And

1:35:11

they've got him trap for their little

1:35:13

double need lifting. and again the people

1:35:15

are standing there staring. Much.

1:35:18

as some of them again or who

1:35:20

lion weeks to quit. There's.

1:35:22

No goddamn chaos going on.

1:35:26

But. Their music plays before they can

1:35:28

do their need lived and when. Oh.

1:35:31

Caught his name flashes up on

1:35:33

a big screen. They pop. There's.

1:35:36

A big because. Here's the goddamn. Dream.

1:35:40

Guy that they wanted to sign that air

1:35:42

by thinks is so great right of our

1:35:44

okay. And he comes

1:35:46

out dressed. I believe you said this to me.

1:35:48

I think off the year so I'm not going

1:35:51

to take credit for it. but he was dressed

1:35:53

as the Japanese Cody Rhodes. What's.

1:35:56

Of and out he comes. At.

1:35:59

A He. He it gets next to

1:36:01

Kingston. And. They

1:36:04

face off with the book. a ruse.

1:36:07

And then suddenly. Ocado.

1:36:11

Gets. Behind Kings didn't like his try

1:36:13

to give him the Heimlich maneuver. And

1:36:16

fumbles to grab his arm and then

1:36:18

spins around. and I get theirs is

1:36:20

short arm clothesline. It's the Rainmaker. or

1:36:23

it's the whatever the fuck, right? So.

1:36:27

Not. Only did he turn on Kingston.

1:36:30

But. He telegraphed it. Instead of just

1:36:32

turn it around and clothesline, the fucker

1:36:34

kick in Amer dead hit. Do anything.

1:36:37

Ego. He takes five seconds to get a

1:36:39

grip on him before he actually levels him.

1:36:42

And. Been. It's. One

1:36:44

short arm close, One. Any

1:36:47

miss company where they don't sell.them

1:36:50

being run over by a propane

1:36:52

truck. Kingston,

1:36:54

Takes one short on clothesline cells that

1:36:57

like death and he's down. In.

1:36:59

Till The Heels Celebrate! Walk.

1:37:01

Around and walk out. Etti still

1:37:04

sell and. From. One clothesline.

1:37:08

They. Have. They've.

1:37:11

Turned their their big new

1:37:13

investment. He'll. Just.

1:37:16

To. See. Of the

1:37:19

book a ruse, an artificial bump in their

1:37:21

in their segments in the ratings or in

1:37:23

some type of interest level where if they're

1:37:25

span and next to the guy that. The.

1:37:28

People want to react to They think that.

1:37:32

That zilch think that they're reacting to

1:37:34

them. What? What of? Why Are they

1:37:36

doing this? Because. I'm fuckin'

1:37:38

big multimillion dollar signing they just

1:37:40

did will ostrich. They.

1:37:43

Fuck and put him in the heel group. Betty.

1:37:46

Goes away for two months. they realize they

1:37:48

do to fucking baby face and they bring

1:37:50

him back and he's a baby face. Shaken

1:37:52

hands with everybody while still in the heel

1:37:54

group with a heel manager. And.

1:37:57

in they spend millions on this guy And

1:38:00

I get he probably wouldn't be as popular as

1:38:02

ostrich because I pretty sure he can't

1:38:04

speak any English right or very little So

1:38:07

he gonna be cutting a promos to anybody on his

1:38:09

side But

1:38:13

he's a fucking heel now to

1:38:15

to prop the buckaroos up if

1:38:18

you're gonna make him a heel at least Make

1:38:20

him a heel Aligned with people

1:38:23

that will draw money and interest instead

1:38:25

of draw that away Am I

1:38:29

being overly critical here or was this some

1:38:31

dumb fucking shit that went on in

1:38:34

their minds? It's good shit in their minds it

1:38:36

also sets up the potential elite versus elite feud

1:38:38

down the road when Omega can Do

1:38:40

anything again and Adam Page could be his buddy

1:38:43

again and they defude with the new elite

1:38:45

Maybe get a little trainee a young

1:38:47

boy. Maybe coda bushe'll be able to walk by

1:38:50

that point Oh, I forgot about him He's

1:38:55

in Tony Khan's new branch

1:38:57

of his wrestling company called the

1:39:00

wrestlers convalescent home Tony's

1:39:02

gonna sign people up to Guaranteed

1:39:05

contracts so they can go have fucking surgery and

1:39:07

be out for two years on his dime Oh,

1:39:10

God is the biggest star in New Japan for? Maybe

1:39:13

the last decade So it's a big deal

1:39:15

getting him and to the fans who like that He's a name

1:39:17

that if you've caught up with New Japan at all in the

1:39:19

last 10 years. He's been to the center of

1:39:22

everything You're putting

1:39:24

him with the Bucks who are dead on arrival right now.

1:39:27

Oh, you said they're propping him up AW

1:39:30

never Does a good

1:39:32

job capitalizing on the best way to

1:39:34

use someone when they come in with

1:39:37

the exception Malachi black When

1:39:39

he first came in they got more interest on him

1:39:43

Then he's had since but a lot of that also was

1:39:45

because of the dynamic with the fans reacting to Cody

1:39:47

Rhodes Well, and also a lot

1:39:49

of it was we hadn't seen much of

1:39:51

him yet more we saw the less we

1:39:53

like but everyone who comes In they get

1:39:55

squandered into something right away Brian Danielson Adam.

1:39:58

Yeah. Yeah right into their orange cast Will

1:40:02

Ospreay, you know, if

1:40:04

you liked the matches, and I really liked a couple

1:40:07

of the matches, we'll talk about it later, they're

1:40:09

great matches, but are

1:40:12

they really elevating him? We'll talk about the numbers

1:40:14

a little bit later. And now Okada. It seems

1:40:17

like they never really, truly, properly capitalize

1:40:20

on what someone could bring. Jay White.

1:40:24

Jay White was a New Japan-made eventter against

1:40:27

guys like Okada. And

1:40:30

now he's in the Bang Bang Scissor Gang, having

1:40:33

scissor fights with his scissor friends. That's

1:40:37

what AEW does to people. You get

1:40:39

caught in scissor fights with scissor friends.

1:40:44

So you're not being overly critical, we'll see

1:40:46

how it works. You know,

1:40:48

I'm not to play too much of a spoiler,

1:40:50

but other than the first hour, it was

1:40:53

the high point of the rating, so there was interest in seeing what

1:40:55

this was going to be. If

1:40:57

they can continue that, it'll be something. Now, I

1:41:00

was unaware of this, I was watching Svenguli

1:41:02

last night, but I had collision

1:41:04

on one of the other monitors, and I happened to look up.

1:41:08

The Bucks and Okada had

1:41:10

their first match as a six-man on collision.

1:41:14

The big guy they bring in, they

1:41:16

bury him on the show. I said no one

1:41:18

watches it, it's catching up to dynamite. I

1:41:21

don't know, we'll see. But

1:41:24

I didn't realize he was going to be

1:41:26

wrestling on this show. Well, no, you misspoke.

1:41:28

Dynamite's catching up to collision, not the other

1:41:30

way around. But no, so three days after

1:41:33

he pops up and makes his surprise debut

1:41:35

and joins with these fucking

1:41:37

morons, without

1:41:40

advertising it in any way in

1:41:43

advance except probably on

1:41:45

Twitter, they have

1:41:47

a six-man tag team match on television. Now,

1:41:50

in the midst of all this stuff with Okada wrestling for AEW,

1:41:52

Jim, I don't know how much of this you saw, and I

1:41:54

don't have anything in front of me I could see what we

1:41:56

could find, but word went

1:41:58

around that... The press in

1:42:01

tokyo i forget the office paper was

1:42:04

reporting that okada signed a deal worth the i

1:42:06

think four and a half million dollars a year.

1:42:09

What a w yes it was said

1:42:11

to be. Thirteen

1:42:14

and thirteen or thirteen and a half million

1:42:16

dollars over three years which would translate to

1:42:18

four and a half million dollars a year

1:42:20

i saw this. And

1:42:23

then i saw people immediately

1:42:25

trying to sources say that

1:42:27

exaggerated and walk it back.

1:42:30

Because let's face it for the for

1:42:33

the newspapers the sports press in.

1:42:37

Japan to be reporting that it's kinda

1:42:39

like when. Pro wrestling

1:42:41

illustrated reported that there was a hundred

1:42:43

thousand dollar bounty on dusty road to

1:42:45

head right. You can't take

1:42:48

that seriously because instantly everybody

1:42:50

was laughing like well

1:42:52

no wonder the wwe wasn't

1:42:55

in any way. Competitive with

1:42:57

that that you know but apparently that's

1:42:59

a good thing for a w for

1:43:01

wrestlers to think that tony's really phone

1:43:03

just stupid money around no no it's

1:43:05

not. Because he

1:43:07

really is throwing stupid money around will do

1:43:09

it but they know that already but it

1:43:11

can you imagine. With about

1:43:13

five or six of those fucking guys that

1:43:16

think that their goddamn shit doesn't stink with

1:43:18

the if they would hear that. This

1:43:20

guy's coming in and can even fucking do

1:43:22

promos is going to be making two or

1:43:25

three times as much money is that whatever

1:43:27

no. It wouldn't do

1:43:29

very good for. A

1:43:31

locker room morale if this fucking guy got

1:43:33

thirteen million dollars in three years now i'm

1:43:36

thinking that yeah i don't think it's as

1:43:38

outrageous as other people do just because of

1:43:40

tony con he's coming in there you know

1:43:42

he's making it a minimum a million dollars.

1:43:45

Oh what i'm yeah i'm i'm agreeing with it

1:43:47

probably maybe a couple of million. Because

1:43:49

tony's a complete idiot so that's the

1:43:51

baseline plus. Probably give me

1:43:53

a couple of these other morons are making a couple

1:43:55

million dollars to moxley i'm sure is making a couple

1:43:58

million dollars to go out there and take. At least

1:44:00

the ring. At least. So,

1:44:03

but if, can you imagine if, can you

1:44:05

imagine the plumbers head exploding if he heard

1:44:07

that Okada and believed that Okada was making

1:44:09

twice as much as he was per year

1:44:11

or whatever point being,

1:44:14

we know that Tony is ridiculously throwing

1:44:16

money at these people. And that's another

1:44:18

reason why that I didn't, you

1:44:21

seem to think that

1:44:24

the WWE was more interested

1:44:26

in both ostrich and Okada than

1:44:29

I did because I didn't think they would

1:44:31

be that serious about it because I knew

1:44:33

that it's Tony Khan's wet dream to be

1:44:36

able to give his ever dwindling pool

1:44:39

of fans more shit to jerk

1:44:41

off about. And that

1:44:43

would be this, and he was going to

1:44:45

pay them much more than the WWE ever

1:44:47

would as a legitimate business investment into talents.

1:44:50

See, I agree with that part, but I did think WWE

1:44:52

had an interest in him, a heavy interest. I don't think

1:44:54

they were going to pay this kind of money and they'll

1:44:57

pay that kind of money to get

1:45:00

you to return to the company if you've proven

1:45:02

yourself. They're not throwing that kind

1:45:05

of money at someone who's an

1:45:07

unproven entity who, you

1:45:09

know, I hate to say because I think both guys are really good and

1:45:11

I think both guys are main eventers, but

1:45:13

may or may not be sent to NXT for a brief

1:45:16

period of time if they sign. So it's

1:45:18

a completely different world. Will Ospreay

1:45:21

has spoken glowingly about Tony

1:45:24

Khan because you could tell it's changed

1:45:26

his life. It changed his lifestyle. It changed

1:45:28

everything. And that's

1:45:31

Tony Khan advantage now. When one of these

1:45:33

guys comes up for free agency before WWE

1:45:35

locks it down for a five year deal,

1:45:38

Tony could say, I'll pay you

1:45:40

double what they'll pay you. I'll guarantee it. And

1:45:43

you'll barely work. And if you feel

1:45:46

like, you know, you have a headache, you could stay

1:45:48

home and I'll fly you wherever you want

1:45:50

to go. And it'll be first class. And if you want to

1:45:52

go to any football games, I'll hook you up. You

1:45:55

got to talk to me every now and then I'm all right. I'm

1:45:57

a little wired, but I mean, well, and

1:45:59

instead of. going to Japan and spending two

1:46:01

weeks there, a month there, whatever, and

1:46:03

getting beat up, it's a

1:46:05

whole lot easier to fly from the United States

1:46:08

to England or vice

1:46:10

versa. And yes,

1:46:14

that's what I'm saying. The

1:46:17

problem is, every

1:46:19

time he buys a brand new gadget that

1:46:22

works wonders, it

1:46:25

shows an application, he doesn't know how to use

1:46:27

the thing and he can't read the directions. And

1:46:31

it ends up being just another gadget

1:46:33

in a drawer somewhere that nobody uses

1:46:36

anymore. Here's another interesting thing to think

1:46:38

about considering Barry Bloom

1:46:40

is the agent for a lot of these guys like

1:46:42

Jericho the Bucks, Omega I think,

1:46:46

Jim Ross. Do any

1:46:48

of these guys have a most favored nations

1:46:50

clause? Because that was one

1:46:52

of his big things and I'm all for that. You

1:46:55

know, especially if it's on my behalf. I'm all

1:46:57

for an MFN. But do any of these

1:46:59

guys have that? Because I mean

1:47:02

at some point soon Jericho may start

1:47:04

getting noses but we're not there yet.

1:47:06

Well there you go. He's the most

1:47:08

experienced and that's how National

1:47:12

Hall not only got a couple

1:47:14

of raises with a favored nations

1:47:17

clause in their contract in WCW

1:47:19

in the day but

1:47:21

they also had to be

1:47:24

asked to waive that when

1:47:27

they brought Bret Hart in right in

1:47:29

order to do the Bret Hart deal

1:47:31

because... That's right I think. Bischoff

1:47:33

wasn't gonna raise them to what Bret

1:47:35

Hart was making plus one dollar or

1:47:37

whatever. So

1:47:39

they had to waive their right

1:47:41

for that and that can be

1:47:43

read. Oh that's the next thing

1:47:46

Tony will get into and it'll

1:47:48

cost him a fucking fortune once

1:47:50

these guys figure that out. Oh

1:47:52

boy. Well you know, Brian

1:47:54

if only there was some way that Tony Khan could

1:47:57

save some money. Anyways,

1:48:01

Well. As the always spin spin

1:48:03

spin. That. So it's all going

1:48:05

out, it's not come and even. If

1:48:08

see that he's a he's. He's. Poop and

1:48:10

more than he's eaten. that's not healthy. Because.

1:48:13

Sooner or later, you'll run out a poop. I'll

1:48:15

tell you what folks if you want

1:48:17

to be talking about as say you

1:48:20

don't think about it if you poop

1:48:22

more that he eats sooner or later

1:48:24

it's bad news your expunging more than

1:48:26

your in taking that impossible them. Well.

1:48:29

as that's another reason why would be bad

1:48:31

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1:48:34

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1:48:37

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1:48:39

the Tony could save some money, I

1:48:41

got an idea at. A. Man

1:48:44

like him. Successful businessman. He's

1:48:46

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1:48:49

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1:48:51

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he'd say too, Amy to say, but son, you

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company and all you're doing is

1:53:26

spending your inheritance. Why should I believe

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you now? Dad, I'm doing

1:53:30

my best. And

1:53:33

then Shad points out the

1:53:35

next match on dynamite was

1:53:37

Chris Stadtlander versus Rio. You

1:53:41

know what? They always treat it like a

1:53:43

surprise when she returns. It's always a surprise.

1:53:46

I always pop like, Oh my God, she's

1:53:48

still there. Rio and AEW original. Well,

1:53:51

they treat it like it's always a surprise.

1:53:53

Rather they keep it secret until the last

1:53:55

minute so that the people won't run off.

1:53:58

Is another way of looking at it. You know, I want

1:54:00

to give her a chance and I want to... No! I

1:54:02

want to... I really do want to, because unlike

1:54:05

you, I'm a good-hearted person. I want to. And

1:54:07

as soon as she comes out there and she

1:54:09

does the smile and the wave like she's a

1:54:11

little girl, it's like, oh come on, I can't

1:54:13

take this seriously, let alone the fact that she's

1:54:15

half the size of her opponents and they

1:54:18

sell for everything and take fucking German

1:54:20

suplexes and everything from her. But

1:54:23

I want to, but she's ridiculous. She

1:54:26

is your kid doing

1:54:28

the moves they see on wrestling to

1:54:30

you and you're going along with it.

1:54:32

Yes! So it gets a reaction because

1:54:34

the kid is doing a good job of mimicking the

1:54:36

wrestlers, but on its

1:54:38

face it's ridiculous. And I'm not saying all small

1:54:41

wrestlers are ridiculous, but Rio is. Well,

1:54:43

no, at some point when you're

1:54:45

this small it's ridiculous, especially with

1:54:47

Chris Stadlander. Why book

1:54:50

that? Why embarrass and

1:54:52

minimalize and bury

1:54:56

one of the only girls you got on your roster

1:54:58

that actually looks like she could be a star if

1:55:00

there was some fucking quality

1:55:03

training available. I

1:55:05

suggest, Chris, follow Jane

1:55:08

Cargill. Map

1:55:10

out her route. Call Stanford. Whatever

1:55:12

the fuck are you and Miss

1:55:14

Cargill friends. Now is the time to exploit

1:55:16

that friendship. I was so

1:55:19

embarrassed because not only ladies and gentlemen who

1:55:21

didn't watch this program and I know there's

1:55:24

a bunch of you out there, Rio

1:55:27

gave up a foot in height, 75 pounds

1:55:30

in weight, and I don't know

1:55:32

what the

1:55:34

phrase is for how you measure talent.

1:55:37

But she gave up a lot of

1:55:39

that too to

1:55:41

Stadlander and Stadlander

1:55:43

had to figure out how not to

1:55:46

accidentally break her in fucking half for

1:55:48

ten minutes and then Rio

1:55:50

rolled her up one, two, three. So,

1:55:56

I mean, you... It's

1:56:01

not about, well, we blamed

1:56:04

Kenny, Twinkle Toes, Kenny Olivier

1:56:06

for so long because of

1:56:08

his weird fixation

1:56:11

on this Japanese underground wrestling

1:56:13

business that he was involved

1:56:16

in where they wrestle these

1:56:18

small nine-year-old girls and people

1:56:20

dressed as giant pandas and whatever the

1:56:22

fuck's going on over there in that

1:56:24

crowd. But

1:56:27

he's home. He's in a hospital.

1:56:29

He's out. It can't even be

1:56:31

explained at this point. You could

1:56:33

have blackmail material on

1:56:35

a motherfucker and they wouldn't be pushing for

1:56:37

you to get pushed like this. This is,

1:56:40

again, some warped thought of Tony

1:56:42

Khan that this girl

1:56:44

should actually be a professional wrestler and deserves

1:56:47

to be on national television. And

1:56:49

until he comes to a

1:56:52

moment of clarity, apparently, everybody's going

1:56:54

to have to put up with this and talent

1:56:56

at some points is going to have to

1:56:58

fucking stooge for this business.

1:57:01

And it's embarrassing. I remind you in the

1:57:03

past, Tony Khan has stated that Riho was

1:57:06

a ratings mover, a ratings draw, and that

1:57:08

was one of the justifications for her being

1:57:10

used. Well, we'll get to

1:57:12

that in a minute, I'm sure, and maybe

1:57:14

we'll just see if that's born fruit or

1:57:18

if he's gone fruit loopy. But

1:57:23

anyway, so then we moved on to the

1:57:25

next time that Tony Shavani was going to

1:57:27

be in the ring to try

1:57:29

to interview somebody. This time he got through

1:57:32

most of it. It

1:57:34

was with Darby Allen who Tony,

1:57:40

you know, he's pro and next, promo

1:57:42

and next week, it's going to be

1:57:44

Darby against light switch Jay White. But

1:57:47

then the question is, what's it going to be

1:57:49

like in your career without Sting? Everybody

1:57:53

knows I made it plain last week.

1:57:56

After I saw what they did, I'm

1:57:58

done with Darby Allen. beyond

1:58:00

help. There's talent there,

1:58:02

there's charisma there, there's opportunity there,

1:58:05

and he's determined to waste all of

1:58:07

it by being a stupid idiot. And

1:58:11

he said, well, I

1:58:13

said that I'd stop and I talked about

1:58:15

this top of the program. I said, I'd

1:58:17

stop at nothing to make sure Sting's retirement

1:58:19

got the respect it deserved. Respect was an

1:58:21

actual quote. That's why he stole

1:58:23

all the attention. As I said at the top of

1:58:25

the show, we talked about that business. And

1:58:29

then he said he's going to wrestle

1:58:31

next week against J. White. And then he's

1:58:33

going to leave March 27th to go climb

1:58:35

Mount Everest. And

1:58:40

there's no guarantee folks that I'll come back alive. And

1:58:44

you know, again, if, if somebody was working

1:58:47

and you know, trying

1:58:49

to build up danger and

1:58:51

intrigue and mystery and interest

1:58:53

in something that we were going

1:58:55

to be able to pay to fucking see

1:58:58

or be involved in or somehow

1:59:00

is going to magnify the

1:59:02

value of the company that he's working for, I

1:59:04

can see it. But there really is no guarantee

1:59:06

that this idiot is going to come back alive

1:59:08

from being an amateur trying to climb Mount Everest.

1:59:10

So therefore, Tony

1:59:13

Khan is letting him come out here, not

1:59:16

only try to commit suicide on his pay-per-view,

1:59:18

but then he said, there's no guarantee

1:59:20

I'm going to come back alive. But if next week is my last match, I'm

1:59:23

going to go out fighting and he's telling the truth. And

1:59:26

I bet you Tony would pay the balance of Darby

1:59:28

Allen's contract to his

1:59:30

next of

1:59:34

kin if he didn't make it off Mount Everest because Tony

1:59:36

is a sap like that. So

1:59:42

Darby does the promo and I was right

1:59:44

as I was about to say, can

1:59:46

somebody please put him on some

1:59:48

kind of involuntary holdup? Involuntary hold

1:59:50

for a few days. Jay

1:59:54

White came out with the guns and it

1:59:56

got worse because Jay White speaking.

2:00:00

is death and

2:00:02

they let him and it

2:00:04

goes on forever. And

2:00:07

I don't know whoever told him

2:00:09

it was interesting or to the

2:00:11

point or delivered

2:00:14

with conviction, but

2:00:16

it's just blithering around the bush. They

2:00:19

had that guy beat the AEW champion when MJF

2:00:21

held the belt. Well,

2:00:25

if you went, that's another reason why Tony's fucking

2:00:27

statistics don't work with the numbers and everything. Cause

2:00:29

if you go back and look at the way

2:00:31

he treated some people last year that he's trying

2:00:33

to get us to buy his main eventers this

2:00:35

year, you'd come up with different ideas.

2:00:39

So J white gave Darby the chance to

2:00:41

back out of the match and join the

2:00:43

bang, bang, scissor

2:00:45

gang bangers as

2:00:48

Darby scissor hands and nobody cared

2:00:50

in the audience. And Darby responded

2:00:52

and nobody cared in the audience

2:00:55

cause they had already been bored

2:00:57

to fucking tears. And

2:00:59

as we know, there were only 3,200 ticket holders and we don't

2:01:03

know that all of them came. So

2:01:06

as they were, as they lost

2:01:08

people to disinterest and attrition, it

2:01:11

was getting quieter. How

2:01:13

many times have we seen this two in AEW in five years?

2:01:16

No, no, no. I don't have a problem with you. I

2:01:18

want you to join my faction. Why?

2:01:23

We've already got a rent two cars, but

2:01:25

we want another. So

2:01:28

then the way that this confrontation

2:01:30

came to an end was

2:01:32

Darby whispered something to J

2:01:34

white and stuck the bat

2:01:37

into J white's neck and J

2:01:39

white acted like that there

2:01:41

was glue on the end of the bat

2:01:43

and he couldn't just back up one half

2:01:45

a step and pull his fucking chin off

2:01:48

the bat. And

2:01:52

Darby said, he did you see that? I

2:01:54

didn't think of it that way. The way

2:01:56

you lay it out is stuck the bat

2:01:58

in his neck. And suddenly J. White couldn't

2:02:00

just go poof and just take it off

2:02:02

his neck. Or his friends right next to

2:02:04

him. And his, and his two friends

2:02:06

were right next to him, to him, allowing him to

2:02:08

be stuck to

2:02:10

a bat. And Darby said, I'll see

2:02:13

you next week. And

2:02:18

all that happened, they have

2:02:20

to do that now a bat covered in glue match.

2:02:26

We're not going to hit you with a bat. We're going to

2:02:28

stick it to you. Oh,

2:02:31

golly. I

2:02:34

don't know. All these, all these people got me

2:02:36

running around like Vic Morrow. I don't know. Oh

2:02:38

come on. That's

2:02:41

awful. Awful. Uh,

2:02:44

I wonder who came up with it. But anyway, so

2:02:47

then the house of Brech

2:02:50

did a dark room

2:02:52

promo with the spooky lighting.

2:02:55

And it looked for, there was

2:02:58

Malachi and Julia

2:03:00

Hart was over on the side looking at his

2:03:02

own, as she can look. And

2:03:04

what are his other two names? Fabian

2:03:07

and Snaben. I forgot what, uh, Brody

2:03:09

King and Buddy. And Buddy Murphy. Yeah.

2:03:11

Well, it looked like a reshoot of

2:03:13

the Bohemian Rhapsody video. Somebody said on

2:03:15

Twitter, they're like, oh, mama mia, mama

2:03:18

mia, mama mia, let me go. Yeah,

2:03:21

mama. And

2:03:23

they're, they're doing a promo about

2:03:25

poor Mark Briscoe that hasn't suffered

2:03:27

enough by this point and

2:03:30

a match that they were going to have on

2:03:32

collision on Saturday night, and then they came out

2:03:34

in, in the back

2:03:36

with Mark Briscoe. And it's an Atlanta

2:03:39

street fight. Cause they're in Atlanta again,

2:03:42

or did they already tape it? Were

2:03:44

they taping it that night? I think they

2:03:46

taped everything Wednesday and Thursday. Good Lord. So

2:03:49

there'll be even fewer people in the audience

2:03:51

by the time they, the Atlanta street fight,

2:03:54

cause they're in Atlanta and

2:03:56

Jay Lethal comes in, bless him. There

2:04:00

that he would have Mark Brisk goes back

2:04:02

and he's going to bring Jeff Jarrett defense.

2:04:05

And. As were Marzano energy of jerked

2:04:07

around a who would you rather

2:04:09

have that another slimy Eve slime

2:04:11

ball slimy fellow. With. Slime.

2:04:16

So Mark is marginalized and on

2:04:18

the B team. And.

2:04:21

Then we were ready for our main events. And.

2:04:23

It was will Ostrich vs Cow

2:04:26

voucher. And. We.

2:04:29

Talked about again. Okay,

2:04:33

If they understood that they made a

2:04:36

mistake by making Ostrich A, he'll put

2:04:38

him in the fall as family. When.

2:04:41

People want to cheer him and they desperately

2:04:43

need baby faces because the only baby faces

2:04:45

they got her their heels. So.

2:04:48

They want to back up on that now that

2:04:50

he's finished with New Japan. A couple months later,

2:04:52

they had the match with. Our

2:04:54

boy Tate. So. That

2:04:56

there could something happen and they

2:04:58

could turn on sell our knob

2:05:01

Ostrich and. You. Know

2:05:03

that he'd be a baby face. He might have a program

2:05:05

that he could start to get over with or whatever. But.

2:05:09

They just have a match between the two of

2:05:11

them. Had to pay per view and then shake

2:05:13

hands and a hug and been. Done.

2:05:15

Phallus announces. Another

2:05:18

match between Ostrich and another

2:05:20

member of his stable. And.

2:05:23

That is this with Mr. Failed Your.

2:05:27

And. There. Is

2:05:29

still unknown. Reason.

2:05:31

That's what I said. No reason given.

2:05:35

For. Having this match or

2:05:37

of why he will he as a as

2:05:39

of. Evil. Manager wants his

2:05:41

gas to fight each other. Rather,

2:05:44

Was the have a great match which makes no sense.

2:05:47

Is. So they have this is the made a bit but.

2:05:51

They've just sand ostrich for what I

2:05:53

assume is. Move millions of

2:05:56

dollars a year like it. Were.

2:05:58

disputing okay as four and

2:06:00

a half million a year, they can certainly can't

2:06:03

be more than two or two and a half.

2:06:05

Tokyo sports is reporting three billion dollars. For

2:06:08

ostrich. Of course. Okay, a billion

2:06:10

a year. But a

2:06:13

point is a lot of money. So you

2:06:16

want to introduce this guy in as

2:06:19

strong and dominant a manner as

2:06:22

possible. So first ego, if your

2:06:25

take was still where they've needed to be pushing

2:06:28

him so they couldn't just

2:06:30

beat him like a fucking flunky because

2:06:32

he will be something somewhere

2:06:34

sometime probably not here. But at

2:06:38

the same time it took will

2:06:41

20 minutes to beat him. So

2:06:43

who are we pushing? And

2:06:46

now they do the same thing. It's

2:06:48

not about what moves the guy can do or

2:06:50

how well he can do them or even how

2:06:52

great a match he can have if you let

2:06:54

him have how great a match get a great

2:06:56

match have or have if a great match ever

2:06:58

can be let have a great match. Not

2:07:02

applicable. You're pushing

2:07:04

the star you just signed. You don't have

2:07:06

him go out and do

2:07:08

everything that he can do to beat

2:07:11

a guy that's been presented as mid-card at

2:07:13

best in 20 minutes and especially when the

2:07:16

guy that's been presented as mid-card at best

2:07:18

doesn't look like Bron Breaker. He looks

2:07:21

like Ball Breaker. 12 years

2:07:24

old in the fucking face with that

2:07:26

fucking fleshy physique at best.

2:07:28

He's got size but he needs in

2:07:31

the gym and ages on his

2:07:34

face to make him look like anybody

2:07:37

that you would want to have going 20

2:07:39

minutes competitively with a guy you're paying a

2:07:41

couple million dollars a year to. Have I

2:07:43

made this point? It's not

2:07:46

what moves a guy can do. It's whether he

2:07:48

should given the

2:07:50

position of his presentation and

2:07:54

with Ostrich's first the

2:07:57

pay-per-view was his first match since he's

2:07:59

been back. It can always wrestled a couple

2:08:01

times on television but on this run. It's.

2:08:04

His first t match, he's starting

2:08:06

a full term contract year. And.

2:08:09

You can't give him some one.

2:08:12

With. Some element of personality.

2:08:15

If you want the people to cheer. Will.

2:08:18

Didn't give you my with personality

2:08:20

and and experience that he can

2:08:22

beat. In. A decisive fashion

2:08:24

showing all of his shit looking

2:08:26

good. But. Not having that much

2:08:28

trouble. Or. If you want him

2:08:30

to be a fork and he'll. Give. Him

2:08:32

a baby face. It fits the same description.

2:08:36

But. Also, that's people know that's been presented

2:08:38

as some level of star and a pastor

2:08:40

some level of talent the past. Into.

2:08:43

It this was good athletic shit. It's

2:08:45

was all modern style wrestling with lots

2:08:47

of the video game stuff. But.

2:08:50

That's not the point. Again

2:08:53

and wouldn't. With. Nobody

2:08:55

to cheer for and nobody to cheer

2:08:57

against. and no reason to have the

2:08:59

match and nothing on the line. And.

2:09:02

A brand new made a better that

2:09:04

needs convincing. Win so that the. Majority.

2:09:07

Of the audience that doesn't know who

2:09:09

the fuck T is might find. Because.

2:09:14

He's been on New Japan Pro

2:09:16

Wrestling on Access. He's.

2:09:18

Been a star on the internet but

2:09:20

he a bit on American television. The.

2:09:22

Telly. You.

2:09:25

Do that You and where the announcers

2:09:27

at that point are telling you why

2:09:29

this guy is at. A. Top

2:09:31

Guy and what his background is

2:09:33

and that he's showing you and

2:09:36

then. He. Does promos and

2:09:38

hopefully tells you how great he

2:09:40

is. And then you

2:09:42

involve him in a competitive situation.

2:09:46

That's. How you start out

2:09:48

a long term. Who.

2:09:50

Push an investment in the money

2:09:53

that you're spending a long term.

2:09:57

You. don't give the people his

2:09:59

goddamn He doesn't meet his

2:10:01

equal in the ring in week three

2:10:03

of a three-year deal. You

2:10:05

fucking morons. And,

2:10:09

but anyway also, um, and,

2:10:12

and let's face it, um, I'm sorry, Mr. Feltier

2:10:14

is never going to be a top guy. It,

2:10:16

well, he will be probably after I'm dead because

2:10:18

it'll take him 10 years in the gym to

2:10:21

work out some kind of fucking look and age

2:10:23

that face to the point where he might've taken

2:10:25

seriously. But also when

2:10:28

they got in the middle of the ring and

2:10:31

started trading shops, I zoned out and

2:10:33

they went to break it two minutes until the

2:10:35

top of the 10 o'clock hour and my DVR

2:10:37

never came back. But

2:10:40

I assume from what I

2:10:42

read on the internet that will

2:10:44

one and nobody fucking broke up with anybody

2:10:46

again. Is that about what happened? That's what

2:10:48

I would happen. I will say I really

2:10:50

liked it. I thought it

2:10:52

was better than the Kekesha match. I

2:10:55

agree with you there. And of course that the Kekesha match

2:10:57

that like six and a

2:11:00

half million stars. Six and seven eights. It was

2:11:02

Dave's hat size since he's a pinhead. I thought

2:11:04

this was good, but to your point, if you

2:11:06

signed someone for main event money with the intention

2:11:08

of treating them as a main event, or you

2:11:10

have to start somewhere and they're not

2:11:12

doing it. And we'll talk about

2:11:14

the rating shortly. They're not

2:11:16

doing it. And Osprey is someone they

2:11:19

should present that way. He's really good and

2:11:21

he's talented and people will like him and

2:11:23

he's a talented heel too, but

2:11:25

this is not whoever suggested this is

2:11:28

the way to just break

2:11:30

them away from the Kalis family or make them a

2:11:32

baby face. Or maybe it'll be like a Prince Nana

2:11:34

thing where Kalis manages him as

2:11:36

a baby face and the rest of the

2:11:38

stable is heels. You never

2:11:40

know with AEW. It's nutty over there, but

2:11:42

I really liked it at the end of

2:11:45

the match. And I will agree with you.

2:11:47

It was better than the, the, the take

2:11:49

match because again,

2:11:51

it seemed like

2:11:53

parts of that thing, they were just

2:11:55

so, so drawn out because

2:11:57

they were trying to have some kind

2:11:59

of. classic, this they had to move a

2:12:01

little more quickly. But these

2:12:03

guys are very athletic and

2:12:06

if they got into

2:12:08

a training program that would teach them

2:12:10

how to think about the business instead

2:12:13

of being indie-minded Marx, I

2:12:15

believe that they could probably do well but

2:12:18

who knows if they're trainable or not. But

2:12:20

otherwise, it's the same shit that

2:12:22

everybody else is doing just like

2:12:24

I said about ostrich and take

2:12:26

the same stuff everybody else is doing, just

2:12:28

more athletic and a little bit better at

2:12:30

it. At the end of the

2:12:32

match, the two opponents embraced because

2:12:35

I think they said that one of them used to live

2:12:37

with the other one when he was struggling. So

2:12:40

they were friends. And there's nothing worse,

2:12:42

there's nothing worse than a breakup and

2:12:45

there's nothing more heartwarming than two

2:12:47

people getting back together after a bitter breakup. Well,

2:12:49

nothing can change the bond between roommates. I mean

2:12:52

they must have had a good time together. Oh,

2:12:54

you mean it was platonic? It

2:12:56

was completely platonic. What the hell were

2:12:58

you saying? They used to live together.

2:13:00

I thought they were preparing. I didn't

2:13:02

know whether they wanted to try it out before they

2:13:04

committed to marriage. That's not what I was saying. Well

2:13:07

listen, they embraced, they're cool, but

2:13:10

then Brian Danielson came out and

2:13:12

now we're going next. Will Ospreay

2:13:14

versus Brian Danielson. Danielson's mad because

2:13:17

his wife told him that hair looks good when he left

2:13:19

the house. I don't know why Danielson

2:13:21

has a problem with anyone. I don't know why

2:13:24

he's been booked as poorly as he has even

2:13:26

for those of you who love his matches. But

2:13:28

that's what we have. Well now what did he do

2:13:30

when he came out? He came out and

2:13:33

he stared. He

2:13:35

made them know that he's paying attention. He sees

2:13:37

them. Now he can't say

2:13:39

he acknowledges them because that would be a trademark

2:13:42

infringement but he notices them. And

2:13:46

obviously with the way he was

2:13:48

staring, he intended it to intimidate

2:13:50

them. Yes,

2:13:52

all five foot six of them.

2:13:54

Yes, well there was an action-packed

2:13:56

ending to that

2:13:58

particular program. And I must

2:14:01

again, I don't know the ebbs and the

2:14:04

flows, the ups and the downs, but I

2:14:06

know enough and

2:14:08

you're going to tell us the rest, but

2:14:10

I know enough to admit a

2:14:13

correction here on the program. I've been

2:14:15

wrong and whenever

2:14:18

I'm proven wrong, I acknowledge that. I think

2:14:20

I've set that track record and

2:14:23

I have been proven wrong again. I'm going to

2:14:25

acknowledge it. I made the statement that

2:14:28

there were 800,000 people in this

2:14:30

country that were going to watch that television

2:14:32

program no matter how bad it sucked. And

2:14:35

I was wrong. And

2:14:38

I apologize. Brian,

2:14:40

what were the ratings for

2:14:42

this episode of AEW Dynamite

2:14:44

from I believe March the 6th?

2:14:46

March the 6th on TBS AEW

2:14:48

Dynamite 8 to 10 pm. Although

2:14:52

it went to 1007. Hold on, let me just

2:14:54

make sure this is the most updated version here.

2:14:56

Yeah, 8 to 10 pm. This is from Wrestlenomics.

2:14:58

779,000 viewers on average.

2:15:00

Ouch! That

2:15:06

is down 5% from last week. The

2:15:09

pay-per-view after the pay-per-view, the

2:15:11

television after the pay-per-view for

2:15:14

the people who didn't get it, what's

2:15:16

going to be said, what's got the

2:15:18

tag titles changed hands, Sting retired. This

2:15:21

guy did that. Not only

2:15:23

no interest bump, but an interest

2:15:25

dip after the pay-per-view. And

2:15:29

again, they have a big episode coming up

2:15:31

this next week from Boston, big business, the

2:15:33

debut of Mercedes Monet. And with

2:15:35

AEW a lot of the issue isn't just getting

2:15:38

a number for someone's debut, it's finding a way to

2:15:40

maintain any of it. But let's

2:15:42

go to this. Once again, these were compiled by

2:15:44

Wrestlenomics. Quarter 1,

2:15:46

8 to 8.15 pm. The

2:15:49

Swerve Shrikland, Samoa Joe,

2:15:52

Adam Cole Live promo. 930,000

2:15:55

viewers. Oh, boy. Though

2:16:00

the sun's gone to the bottom, is

2:16:02

gonna fall out of the market very

2:16:04

soon. Fog strap in. it's gonna be

2:16:07

a bumpy ride. Again, a

2:16:09

minute at least of the Big Bang Theory

2:16:11

To start that off, Quarter.

2:16:13

To Eight Fifteen A Thirty Pm. Samoa,

2:16:17

Joe and Swerve Strickland vs Matt Taylor

2:16:19

and Mike Bennett with picture in picture

2:16:21

ads. The. Chris Jericho

2:16:23

Hook Backstage Angle. And

2:16:26

advice. A recap. And.

2:16:28

The Young Bucks backstage promo. Seven.

2:16:31

Hundred And Eighty Five thousand viewers. Okay,

2:16:33

as and see that's why, Because when

2:16:36

you start with a number like that

2:16:38

and considering the overall average, it had

2:16:40

to plummet and. Boy.

2:16:42

Howdy did it with a hundred

2:16:44

and forty five thousand people in

2:16:46

fifteen minutes that the. Here.

2:16:50

Where we go from here Again, No

2:16:52

star power. Jericho Star power is gone.

2:16:55

They zap that thanks to him. But.

2:16:57

Let's go from here is thirty eight

2:16:59

forty five pm. Quarter. Three.

2:17:03

What's. Worse is Brian Cage with picture

2:17:05

in picture adds. A posts

2:17:07

mass with the mobile embassy and

2:17:09

Jericho. A recap. The.

2:17:11

Orange Cassidy Best Friends Backstage

2:17:14

promo. Seven. Hundred

2:17:16

and ninety two thousand viewers

2:17:18

with. Fluctuation.

2:17:21

Amongst people getting up to go to the

2:17:23

bathroom are coming back from getting a sandwich so

2:17:25

we got seven thousand back. Quarter.

2:17:27

for a forty five nine pm.

2:17:30

Madmen. All Vs Kill switch.

2:17:33

The. Post Match when Nick Wayne

2:17:35

pushing cage Adam Copeland. That

2:17:38

ways, mom. On. The ramp.

2:17:41

Vehicle. Riley backstage promo.

2:17:44

An. Ad break. And. A

2:17:46

Sting video. Seven.

2:17:48

Hundred And Seventy Nine thousand

2:17:50

viewers. So we've we've already.

2:17:54

The Quarter that featured. Age

2:17:58

One of the major. Nobody

2:18:00

W E Stars of the

2:18:02

modern era last. Thirteen.

2:18:05

Thousand viewers from the Pc quarter

2:18:07

Hour that featured a bunch of

2:18:10

these generic. Jobber. Indie.

2:18:12

Guess what? To be fair, the fans didn't know

2:18:14

that as was going to be there. He was

2:18:16

a surprise. I was a surprise to quell as

2:18:18

Sable Yeah, That's true, They.

2:18:20

Thought they if. They. Thought they were to see

2:18:22

in. The. Dinosaur and fuckin'

2:18:25

dip shit. But. There were

2:18:27

other surprises. The. Big nine

2:18:29

o'clock hour. Ninety. Nine Fifteen

2:18:31

Pm Quarter Five. The

2:18:33

Young Bucks live promo. Their.

2:18:36

Confrontation with Eddie Kingston. The.

2:18:38

Debut of Okada. And

2:18:41

the start of Rio versus that

2:18:43

lander. Eight. Hundred

2:18:45

and sixty five thousand viewers.

2:18:48

Also. The high point in the key demo. Four.

2:18:51

Hundred and Eleven Thousand. So.

2:18:54

Taking everything into account is

2:18:57

and they haven't lately been

2:18:59

doing. A bump at the top

2:19:01

of the nine o'clock hour, but in this case they

2:19:03

added. Know Antonio Eighty

2:19:06

six thousand people. Is.

2:19:09

That is as they can do. They knew

2:19:11

the. Announcement was going to

2:19:13

be Okada because we do Okada was

2:19:15

signing. Or. Is was that the

2:19:18

for? In other words, did. Because.

2:19:20

They brought oh caught out as a surprise, but

2:19:22

then they kept going in that quarter, I'm wondering

2:19:24

if it can. If

2:19:26

the people suddenly called around to their friends,

2:19:28

old cat is out there. Are

2:19:31

having a lot of a lot of a to his. I.

2:19:33

Tried to show for a few minutes or come

2:19:35

back. After. The show I went to instead

2:19:38

ends and ends and nine o'clock to go see what's

2:19:40

going on on the other channel. More.

2:19:42

Of the normal audience may have just said

2:19:44

well it's it's you know. Will check back

2:19:46

in. Was. never there

2:19:48

but nevertheless that's the you know is pretty

2:19:50

obvious they wanted to what was going to

2:19:53

go on with okada if that is indeed

2:19:55

the broad the situation we go from there

2:19:57

to quarter six nine fifteen and nine thirty

2:19:59

pm the continuation of Reho

2:20:01

vs. Statlander with Picture in Picture,

2:20:04

the Tony Storm Mariah May backstage

2:20:07

promo, an ad break, and

2:20:09

Willow Nightingale's backstage promo, 726,000

2:20:12

viewers. Oh

2:20:15

jeez, and then 139,000 people said, Fuck,

2:20:20

we missed Okada. Oh

2:20:24

god, Joe Biden. They

2:20:26

lost everybody that they got,

2:20:28

plus another fucking 57,000. They

2:20:32

came back at the 9 o'clock hour to see what was

2:20:34

there to hold them, and it didn't

2:20:36

come. It didn't happen. We

2:20:39

go from there to quarters 7, 930 to 945 pm, the

2:20:43

Darby Allen promo in confrontation with Jay

2:20:45

White, the Julia Hart

2:20:47

backstage promo, the wind is blowing

2:20:50

in the background, I don't know if anyone could

2:20:52

hear that. Oh boy. The House

2:20:54

of Black... House of Back. The House

2:20:56

of Black backstage promo. Oh

2:20:59

mamma mia, mamma mia. There was an

2:21:01

ad break and also the Mark Briscoe

2:21:03

Jay Lethal backstage angle, 747,000

2:21:05

viewers. Good

2:21:09

lord, they actually aimed... They

2:21:12

actually added people for

2:21:14

backstage malarkey.

2:21:18

And finally, Jim, quarter 8, I remind you we have a

2:21:20

7 minute overrun. Quarter

2:21:23

8, 945 to 10 pm. Will

2:21:27

Ospreay versus Kyle Fletcher with picture

2:21:29

in picture twice. 654,000

2:21:32

viewers. Oh!

2:21:36

7 minute overrun including post-match confrontation

2:21:38

with Brian Danielson. 676,000 viewers.

2:21:43

Final quarter did 306 in the key

2:21:45

demo. They drove away

2:21:47

those fans too. Oh boy.

2:21:49

Cause it was a match

2:21:51

for no reason with nobody.

2:21:54

If you didn't want to see guys do

2:21:56

moves, then they gave you

2:21:58

no other reason to watch. Watch it. And

2:22:03

they think they're delivering good stories.

2:22:05

That's the sickness. That's the

2:22:08

problem. They think they're delivering good stories. The

2:22:10

people who defend them will say, how could

2:22:12

you say they have those stories? The stories

2:22:14

are great. The stories suck and no one

2:22:16

gives a shit. People tune out. This kid

2:22:18

that dresses up like a guy in this

2:22:20

video game is gonna fight that kid dressed

2:22:22

up like the guy in that video game

2:22:24

and boy you ought to see the way

2:22:26

that they catch each other's foot and boost each

2:22:28

other up in the air so they can

2:22:30

land on their feet. What

2:22:32

the... Let's do

2:22:34

our exercise. Hey, one other thing on this

2:22:37

before we wrap things up because several

2:22:39

listeners sent this in so let's just address this

2:22:41

quickly. Okay. Will

2:22:43

Osprey tweeted out March

2:22:46

8th. When is the 8th?

2:22:48

That was Friday. And thus, my

2:22:51

first tour under the AEW banner has come to

2:22:53

an end. Thank

2:22:55

you so much for such an overwhelming response.

2:22:58

To everyone backstage, thank

2:23:00

you so much for allowing me into the home you've

2:23:02

built. What the... I will cherish

2:23:05

this place and treat it as my own.

2:23:08

I'm banged up bad, but my

2:23:10

foot is still on the gas pedal. But

2:23:13

now I'm gonna get on this flight home to my

2:23:15

beautiful Mrs. and stepson and enjoy the

2:23:17

fruits of my labor. I

2:23:20

believe in AEW. Oh

2:23:23

my god. And by the way, for the record after this

2:23:25

caused a bit of an outcry, he had to tweet out

2:23:27

later on, also guys, I'll be back

2:23:29

Tuesday for work, don't worry. Because

2:23:31

people were afraid that he wasn't coming back. That's

2:23:33

the thing is, what if he was

2:23:36

here from fucking Saturday till goddamn Wednesday?

2:23:38

Now my tour, my first tour is

2:23:40

over. It was a

2:23:42

cold winter. I feared at

2:23:45

one point the Tories may have been

2:23:47

able to emerge triumphant but fortunately, as

2:23:49

we dug into the trenches, the cannons

2:23:52

arrived from General Farquhar. My first

2:23:54

tour, also known as Two Days in

2:23:56

Duluth. the

2:24:00

pay-per-view and the

2:24:02

goddamn TV taping on Wednesday, right? And

2:24:05

Thursday. They did

2:24:07

one Thursday. I think so. Yeah. So

2:24:10

they didn't tape all of the collision stuff

2:24:12

within on the Wednesday night taping

2:24:14

with 3000 people there. They came back

2:24:16

the next night with less people. Uh,

2:24:19

let's see. They taped dynamite. I

2:24:22

don't have anything here for collision. They

2:24:25

taped dynamite and

2:24:27

rampage. The collision was taped

2:24:29

the next day. How many

2:24:32

people did they have? Oh, we

2:24:34

already said that. That was a. No, no.

2:24:36

There was two nights they had 3200 or

2:24:38

whatever. Wednesday night

2:24:40

for dynamite. What about for collision

2:24:42

on Thursday night? Well,

2:24:45

collision the next night, same, uh, gas

2:24:47

out there. Uh, area, gas south arena,

2:24:49

Duluth, Georgia. It's a gassy area. There's

2:24:51

a lot of waffle houses. Where the

2:24:53

gas south gang, you better watch out.

2:24:56

Uh, at that point in time, I don't know if these

2:24:58

are the final numbers, but tickets distributed were 2,166. Oh, good

2:25:04

Lord. All right. And for

2:25:06

the record that building, the gas south arena

2:25:09

capacity is listed as 13,000, but

2:25:12

I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's

2:25:14

for basketball or not. So that changes things. Well, no,

2:25:17

that, uh, a capacity for an

2:25:19

arena will always be listed as the amount

2:25:21

of permanent seats. And

2:25:24

if you put ringside or for concerts

2:25:27

on the floor, that's, that's extra. Then

2:25:29

there's a capacity for fire. You know,

2:25:31

that you can't have over such and

2:25:33

such people in the building, but they generally list an

2:25:35

arena capacity by the permanent seats for a show with nothing

2:25:41

on the floor, but a court or whatever. But nevertheless,

2:25:45

that's a fucking

2:25:47

very small number of people for a very big

2:25:49

building for two nights in

2:25:51

a row. The, the,

2:25:55

the, the

2:25:57

tickets distributed were 5,000 over

2:25:59

the two nights. and the capacity of the building

2:26:01

twice is almost 30,000. So

2:26:03

you can end up both nights. It still isn't

2:26:05

even SmackDown. It's not

2:26:08

even halfway. So there you go there. But

2:26:11

nevertheless, let's do one thing. Let's do

2:26:14

the, our exercise and then move on

2:26:16

from these ratings and take the ratings

2:26:18

and drop the first quarter and drop

2:26:21

the overrun that are artificial numbers and

2:26:23

take the seven

2:26:25

in between quarters and see what the fuck

2:26:27

the average is now. We're

2:26:30

the only people that do this honest

2:26:32

to God, real, uh, factoring

2:26:35

in of things. Divided

2:26:39

by seven. Yeah. I

2:26:41

carry the two 764,000 viewers, seven hundred. So

2:26:46

they got an artificial

2:26:48

bump of 15,000 on their

2:26:50

total by having the overrun and

2:26:52

the artificial first quarter with the

2:26:54

big bang minute. Well,

2:26:58

there you go. Every little

2:27:00

bit helps when the team is in need,

2:27:02

Brian, every little bit helps when the team

2:27:04

is in need, but you know what I'm

2:27:06

thinking just off the top

2:27:08

of my head, Brian last that the

2:27:11

AEW talent roster before

2:27:14

they're tough enough to whoop up on the,

2:27:17

the head of the table and the

2:27:19

board of directors and the American nightmare

2:27:22

and all those other big stars over

2:27:24

on the other channel, they're going

2:27:26

to have to eat a lot more of their meat and

2:27:28

potatoes as mama cornet used to say. They're going to have

2:27:30

to get out. They're going to have to clean

2:27:33

their plates and they're going to have to work

2:27:35

hard to get big and bad enough to

2:27:37

fight the big boys, aren't they? I

2:27:40

mean, there's a chance Tony would pay for these

2:27:42

meals. Yeah. Well, but you know,

2:27:45

there's a chance that Tony will pay for anything

2:27:47

until finally Tony's so broke,

2:27:49

he won't be able to pay attention, but I'll

2:27:51

tell you folks, if you're getting tired of paying

2:27:53

high prices for, for rotten meals,

2:27:56

and you want to pay to lower prices

2:27:58

for those rotten meals. Or if

2:28:01

you're getting tired of just eating direct and

2:28:03

fast food garbage that's bad for you, that's going

2:28:06

to give you some kind of horrible cancerous

2:28:09

growth on your body or it's

2:28:11

gonna poison your innards and your

2:28:13

insides or it's going to give you some

2:28:15

kind of leprosy on your skin because all

2:28:17

this modern food is just horrible for you.

2:28:20

Or if

2:28:22

your hurry-scurry existence that you live

2:28:24

in, the hustle and bustle of

2:28:26

your world is too busy, for

2:28:28

you to be able to go in that kitchen

2:28:30

and concoct the

2:28:33

oysters Rockefeller from scratch and

2:28:35

make the sauces and

2:28:37

the gravies in the various puddings

2:28:40

of the world. Snappy pappy. Snappy

2:28:42

pappies. If you don't have time

2:28:44

for all that, you

2:28:46

need to talk to our friends at

2:28:48

Factor because eating

2:28:50

has never been easier and

2:28:53

eating better has never been

2:28:55

easier. It's never been easy for me. Pimping

2:28:57

was easy, but eating better was not. But

2:29:00

Factor's delicious, ready-to-eat

2:29:02

meals. They put everything in there.

2:29:05

I mean, they put the main course, they could

2:29:08

put the sides. The only

2:29:10

thing they don't put in is the

2:29:12

bill with the tip for the server because

2:29:14

you're just popping this stuff in the oven

2:29:16

or the microwave. Boom! It's ready

2:29:18

to go in just two minutes. Like

2:29:21

Lauren Boebert, you'll have over

2:29:24

35 different options to choose from. Every

2:29:28

week of the calendar year, including they got

2:29:30

the calorie smart line, the protein plus line,

2:29:32

the keto line. Now I'll tell you some

2:29:35

of the fine dinners that we had over

2:29:37

here at the castle. We

2:29:39

had the roasted garlic chicken with

2:29:41

green beans and sour cream and the

2:29:44

onion mashed potatoes. We had

2:29:46

the red pepper queso chicken with

2:29:49

brown rice and who can forget the

2:29:51

ever-popular Parmesan and

2:29:53

sun-dried tomato chicken penny with

2:29:56

the roasted green beans and the pearl

2:29:58

onions. Well

2:30:00

you say P'nay and I say P'ni and

2:30:02

we ate it just the same. You don't

2:30:04

have to be able to pronounce it to

2:30:06

eat it and that's what

2:30:09

you must do. You must eat these factor meals because

2:30:11

they've got everything take care of you all day.

2:30:13

They got breakfast, they got smoothies,

2:30:15

they got midday bites and

2:30:18

once again a chef

2:30:20

has approved this and you

2:30:22

know those cooks, boy I'll tell you what, you

2:30:25

slip them something under the table, they'll get into

2:30:27

anything but a chef has approved this and

2:30:30

a dietician and

2:30:32

whatever they do. Apparently the dieticians

2:30:35

are the ones that craft the diet plans

2:30:38

that you can't stick to. No the

2:30:40

dieticians they work with are the ones who help craft

2:30:42

the right meals with the right caloric

2:30:44

intake and all that stuff. Well that's

2:30:47

exactly what the caloric intake is, what

2:30:49

the dietitian is all about and they'll

2:30:51

control this stuff and you'll be surprised

2:30:54

what you'll find when you look

2:30:56

at the various ingredients you're not gonna find

2:30:58

things like sewer sludge and

2:31:01

motor oil, you're gonna find good quality

2:31:04

real food ingredients in these items and

2:31:07

again they're ready to heat up you could

2:31:09

just run a candle under them shine a

2:31:11

flashlight on them it'll get warm enough. Eat

2:31:13

some things rare every once in a while.

2:31:15

There's no mess if you eat

2:31:18

the whole thing you got nothing left. Just

2:31:20

throw the dish away. So

2:31:22

no prepping, no cooking, no cleanup.

2:31:25

Well you can spend all your time

2:31:27

getting a second or even a third job

2:31:29

or discovering a cure for cancer and

2:31:32

they have figured out Brian

2:31:34

mathematically that factor meals

2:31:37

are less expensive than takeout and

2:31:40

every meal of course dietitian approved

2:31:42

to be nutritious and delicious. So

2:31:44

the dietitians also are

2:31:47

the ones adjudicating the taste value

2:31:49

of these meals that's their job and

2:31:52

you folks can head to factormeals.com right now

2:31:57

And use the code JCE50. And

2:32:00

you're going to get fifty percent off. Whatever.

2:32:03

You order it again. The.

2:32:05

Meals for all throughout the day if you're

2:32:07

if you're conscious in the morning, a breakfast.

2:32:10

If. You're more alert and evening a dead

2:32:12

head. Go. Crazy In a two

2:32:14

meals in one day, you can handle

2:32:17

the strain. But. As are all

2:32:19

just wrapped up and boxed up and waiting for you.

2:32:21

Don't have to lift a finger job. Where you do

2:32:23

have to lift a finger, you gotta pick up a

2:32:25

fork. In. Less you want to be

2:32:27

a savage and eat with your hands. Stick

2:32:29

your face in the goddamn tray. Of

2:32:32

factor meals, the just grazed like

2:32:34

a fucking bovine. Sabri.

2:32:36

The best thing, but nevertheless wouldn't be the best

2:32:38

thing. Know it would not. Well. But

2:32:41

you're going to eat these eggs one

2:32:43

where the other other issues especially as

2:32:45

utensils. Like civilized people. Yes,

2:32:47

And finish your plate because there are

2:32:50

there is people coming by to inspect

2:32:52

afterwards to make sure. There's.

2:32:54

Hungry people in Bolivia somewhere Cj

2:32:56

be wasting food. But.

2:32:58

Anyway, right now. Factor.

2:33:01

meals.com/j C E

2:33:03

Fifty. Use. That

2:33:05

Koji see fifty to get fifty

2:33:07

percent off. If you want to

2:33:10

give one to your kids, let him fight over

2:33:12

it. If you get more than one kid, you're

2:33:14

given him one meal. Well and good. Get em

2:33:16

competitive early, but just share it with the whole

2:33:18

family. Factor. meals.com/j C

2:33:21

E Fifty. Fifty.

2:33:23

Percent off the choice or they can be cost.

2:33:25

Of the food that you choose. To.

2:33:28

Feed yourself and your loved ones. That's.

2:33:31

Right. softer. Once. Again,

2:33:34

or were you just gave the promo code?

2:33:36

do But it is The which is all

2:33:38

Id Grilled chicken with sweet potato mash and

2:33:40

cornyn. It's. Just I like

2:33:42

the penny. And. The Penny.

2:33:45

Gyms. A fan of the General. Quit or before we

2:33:47

move on. Here's. The line of for

2:33:50

collision I didn't watch. Oh. The.

2:33:52

House A Blast vs. Jeff Jarrett. Markers go

2:33:54

on. Jay Lethal in in Atlanta Street Fight.

2:33:57

oh good lord as it does it's Say

2:34:00

what happened, tell me that Jeff Jarrett

2:34:02

didn't turn on Mark Briscoe. I don't

2:34:04

have the results, only the lineup. Well,

2:34:07

we'll find. I'm sure it'll be all over the news. I

2:34:09

can pull up the results if you want on the second

2:34:11

match that you didn't see Jim. Mestico

2:34:14

versus Angelico. Well

2:34:18

now, so Mestico wasn't involved

2:34:20

in the visa fiasco. Is

2:34:23

that he's still in the country or are they just

2:34:25

using his mask and putting it on some guy like

2:34:27

Nick Goulis used to do? You

2:34:31

don't know? I was on

2:34:33

mute. I know that I was on mute. Now

2:34:35

AEW would never do that. That's a WWE thing. They

2:34:38

would never hide or pretend someone was

2:34:40

the actual masked superstar or not the

2:34:43

masked superstar, but a superstar that is masked.

2:34:45

The superstar that would be masked. That's right.

2:34:48

When Nick Goulis had the interns or the

2:34:50

mighty Yankees or some masked team on top

2:34:54

and he would book him in like two or

2:34:56

three different towns and whoever the biggest advance was

2:34:58

would get the real ones. Alright,

2:35:00

I have here the rest of the matches Jim. Yes. Brian,

2:35:04

I actually have the results it looks like. In

2:35:06

the main event, the House of Black won the

2:35:08

six-man tag street fight over Briscoe,

2:35:10

Ethan, and Jarrett. Brian

2:35:12

Danielson defeated Shane

2:35:14

Taylor. Afterwards,

2:35:16

he was confronted by Will Ospreay. And

2:35:20

stared at. That's right. Also,

2:35:23

Angelico tapped out to Mestico.

2:35:27

Chris Jericho defeated Titan. The

2:35:31

Gates of Agony then attacked Chris

2:35:33

Jericho after the match. But

2:35:35

Hook made the save. Also,

2:35:38

Mariah May pinned Trish Adoro. Deanna

2:35:41

Parrazzo attacked Tony Storm. It

2:35:43

was DDT'd by May. FTR

2:35:46

announced they would be in the tag title tournament.

2:35:49

And also the Elite. Avocada

2:35:51

and the Young Bucks defeated

2:35:53

Liam Gray. Adrian

2:35:55

Alanis and John

2:35:57

Cruz. Adrian Alanis and John Cruz defeated

2:35:59

Adrian. Adrian Alanis.

2:36:04

So they just threw that out

2:36:06

there. His first TV match, his

2:36:08

first six-man tag with his partners

2:36:12

in douchebaggery with no promotion,

2:36:14

no advance notice against job

2:36:16

guys for what purpose?

2:36:21

Tony Kemp. Tony Kemp

2:36:23

book. And I've been

2:36:26

saying that some people are out there. They're gonna

2:36:28

be saying well Cornette keeps saying give them easy

2:36:30

matches to show their shit. When

2:36:33

you sign a multi-million dollar guy also

2:36:35

advertise it ahead of time. And

2:36:38

don't put these fucking leeches in

2:36:40

the match either. Let him show

2:36:42

what he can do against some

2:36:44

quality opponent in an advertised debut

2:36:48

so the people might tune in. Hey

2:36:54

Hey Is that all you

2:36:56

got there? That's all I got. Cuz

2:36:58

I got something and I bet you I bet you know

2:37:00

what I got but I bet the people don't know what

2:37:03

I got but I'm gonna tell them what I got right

2:37:05

now. Would you like to

2:37:07

hear what I got? What you got? I

2:37:09

got an interview with somebody. And

2:37:12

we're gonna play it here in a second because

2:37:14

folks as you may know it's been in all

2:37:16

the papers the season five of

2:37:18

Dark Side of the Ring has debuted

2:37:22

premiered on Vice

2:37:24

TV. It's still around folks. They

2:37:26

haven't taken it away from us yet. Tuesday

2:37:29

nights at 10 o'clock Eastern time. There's

2:37:31

gonna be 10 episodes this season. We

2:37:33

just talked about on the

2:37:36

drive-thru a couple of days ago. The debut

2:37:38

was on Earthquake John Tenta and today,

2:37:42

well actually not today because this is

2:37:44

a previously recorded conversation, but I

2:37:46

was able to catch up on

2:37:48

the phone with Evan Husney

2:37:50

who along with Jason Eisner are the

2:37:53

producer director and creative forces behind Dark

2:37:55

Side of the Ring and we talked

2:37:58

about the various episodes. episodes this season,

2:38:00

including the ones that I'm going to be a

2:38:03

part of. So Brian, if you have the ability

2:38:06

to punch the button and get that queued

2:38:08

up, we will now go to

2:38:11

the interview that I conducted, because he's a busy

2:38:13

man. Had to get him when I could, day

2:38:16

before yesterday on the phone with

2:38:18

Evan Husney. All righty.

2:38:20

We have made the connection and once again

2:38:23

joining us, the one of

2:38:25

the major domos of the Dark Side of

2:38:27

the Ring series. I can never remember producer,

2:38:29

director, you guys do everything. You're literally twin

2:38:32

sons of different mothers, but we got one

2:38:34

half of them. The other

2:38:36

one is temporarily on assignment

2:38:38

with Walter Cronkite, but welcome back to the

2:38:40

program, Evan Husney. Oh, thanks so much, Jim.

2:38:42

That's another year, another season. It's great to

2:38:45

be back talking to you about it. So

2:38:47

I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. And

2:38:50

of course, we're just, we're making fun

2:38:52

of Jason Eisner. He's not really on,

2:38:54

on assignment with Walter Cronkite because Walter

2:38:56

Cronkite has been dead for 40 years,

2:38:58

but nevertheless, you

2:39:02

know, I hate that we couldn't work out

2:39:04

on our schedules. Everything's been so crazy, but

2:39:06

the folks have already seen

2:39:09

the season five premiere

2:39:11

episode on Earthquake

2:39:13

John Tenta. And boy, and that was

2:39:15

such a sad story again, because he

2:39:17

was such a nice guy and, and

2:39:20

Brian and I are going to be discussing more.

2:39:22

It's at some point, I don't know where we

2:39:25

are in time here, but you

2:39:27

know, this was one of the, the

2:39:29

examples of a kinder, gentler,

2:39:31

dark side of the ring.

2:39:34

Because even though this was a sad

2:39:37

story, it was about a swell guy, as

2:39:39

they used to say, and it had a

2:39:41

lot of uplifting principle

2:39:43

to it. It was, he was not,

2:39:47

he was not his own worst enemy as some

2:39:49

of your subjects are. So that had to be

2:39:51

kind of a more,

2:39:55

what's the word I'm searching for, a more

2:39:58

cathartic episode to do to have some. good

2:40:00

feelings come out. Yeah.

2:40:02

I mean, when I was a kid, I was a

2:40:05

big earthquake fan and I was a fan of all

2:40:07

the big men of the eighties wrestling. When I was

2:40:09

a kid, uh, BAM BAM, Bigelow, the

2:40:11

natural disasters, et cetera, et cetera. But

2:40:14

this was definitely a subject I never really

2:40:16

thought would be a fit for the

2:40:19

show or considered until recently when

2:40:21

we were kind of doing a thought experiment on

2:40:23

other types of different episodes. Could we sort of

2:40:25

expand what the type of the scope of what

2:40:27

we're looking at for the series and

2:40:31

when we kind of were like,

2:40:33

whoa, what about John Tenta? And I remembered a

2:40:35

friend of mine, Mike Lawrence, he's

2:40:37

a, he's a comedian and he's also a

2:40:39

comedy writer. He suggested it to me and

2:40:42

gave me this backstory on John Tenta that I didn't

2:40:44

really know. I didn't know. I mean, I knew he

2:40:46

was a sumo wrestler in Japan, but I didn't know

2:40:48

to the extent. Um, and

2:40:51

just this kind of fascinating background in which

2:40:53

he, how he came into the wrestling business.

2:40:56

And, um, uh, he

2:40:58

intimated that there was kind of a very

2:41:00

emotional family story there. And I

2:41:02

remember when we sort of as a thought

2:41:04

experiment, we're like, okay, what does this look

2:41:06

like? And we started to reach out to his

2:41:08

family and speak to them. We just kind of

2:41:10

fell in love with them, to be quite honest.

2:41:13

Yeah. They're, they're just such likable, amazing people. And

2:41:15

they are the heroes of this episode. And

2:41:17

that just really resonated with us in just a

2:41:19

huge way. The fact that, you know, he is

2:41:22

this, you know, John Tenta was a gentle giant.

2:41:24

He had that side to him, but he also

2:41:26

was this, you know, monstrous heel, you know, in

2:41:28

the eighties WWF. So there's that contrast, but in

2:41:31

all honesty, it was just kind of really

2:41:33

just loving the hell out of his family and

2:41:35

just wanting to do this episode. They were very

2:41:37

excited about it. And, um, I

2:41:39

thought it was just a chance for us just to give,

2:41:42

um, just a, for, for fans

2:41:44

to see a different side of him. Maybe they

2:41:46

didn't know his real story or what a great

2:41:48

guy he was. And I think

2:41:50

it was like 10 or so years ago

2:41:52

when his son posted this amazing photo on,

2:41:55

uh, social media of John

2:41:57

Tenta laying on this couch with his kids playing game

2:41:59

ball. And that just like, just

2:42:02

really hit home for me like, wow, like

2:42:04

that says everything. What a great dude. You

2:42:06

know? And so. His,

2:42:09

like you said, his family, his

2:42:12

wife and his daughter

2:42:14

was so cheerful at his sons. They're

2:42:18

like central casting for

2:42:20

normal people that you just like because they're

2:42:22

camera friendly even though they're normal. And

2:42:25

they were just so pleasant.

2:42:27

And the, I knew,

2:42:29

you know, most of John's

2:42:31

background and, you know, especially in the

2:42:33

mid eighties when, you

2:42:35

know, we were all able to finally get

2:42:37

the Japanese video tapes in the mail and

2:42:40

blah, blah, blah. And had seen him before

2:42:42

he became earthquake and knew the Sumo background

2:42:44

also. But the thing

2:42:46

that I was astonished.

2:42:49

I never realized I'm older than he

2:42:51

was. Because, and I

2:42:53

get, because he was so, he's like Dennis Condrey.

2:42:56

People say Dennis Condrey looked like he was 40 since

2:42:58

he was 20. But

2:43:01

I get because of he went bald

2:43:03

prematurely and just, he was big and

2:43:05

had that, you

2:43:07

know, you would have thought that he,

2:43:10

but he was only what, 24 years old would

2:43:12

have 25 or whatever. He's working

2:43:14

with Hogan. And

2:43:16

it was just amazing. Insane, yeah. Like

2:43:19

that's definitely that era of wrestler

2:43:21

is something, man, I

2:43:23

really miss to be quite frank.

2:43:26

It's wrestlers who just looked

2:43:29

and were, you know, looked many years older than

2:43:31

they actually were. I don't know how else to

2:43:33

put it that way. Like grown adults even when

2:43:35

they weren't grown adults. Well, and to

2:43:37

think, it also has contributed to his athletic ability.

2:43:43

And of course he had, you know, played

2:43:45

sports in school, but when

2:43:47

he debuted

2:43:50

in Japan until the time that he was

2:43:52

working on top in the WWF wasn't two

2:43:55

or three years. And for a guy that size

2:43:57

to be able to like Yoko Zuna. an

2:44:00

amazing natural athlete for a guy that

2:44:02

has to be able to move it

2:44:04

in a controlled way to

2:44:06

not kill people in that fashion.

2:44:09

You know, there was amazing

2:44:12

natural inclination toward being able to learn how to

2:44:14

work at that stage of the game. But yeah.

2:44:17

And one, one, one last thing too, I forgot to

2:44:19

mention about it was when we did the episode, like

2:44:21

I said, we, we did it out of just, you

2:44:24

know, being so enamored with, uh, tent

2:44:26

as family, but when we did the interviews

2:44:28

and they came back and we're watching and

2:44:30

we're piecing together the episode, we're like, holy

2:44:33

crap, this is one of the most heartbreaking

2:44:35

episodes we've ever put together. Who would have

2:44:37

thunk it? You know, and, um, you

2:44:39

know, a lot, I just, you know, a lot of people

2:44:42

may think it's not quite a fit for the show, but

2:44:44

I have to, I have

2:44:46

to say that I think it's pretty

2:44:48

dark, you know, when someone who's so

2:44:50

beloved and does so, and it's

2:44:52

such a strong connection with their family has taken away

2:44:54

from them. I almost can't even think of anything darker,

2:44:56

you know? And so, uh, you

2:44:59

know, but it, but it does also shine a

2:45:01

light on the fact that, you

2:45:03

know, what a great person he was. And, um,

2:45:05

and it is sad to think about that. Nobody,

2:45:07

you know, from the business was there, you know,

2:45:09

in his final days. And

2:45:11

the fact that after his wrestling career faded,

2:45:13

he had to work retail and things like

2:45:15

that, you know, those are things I didn't

2:45:17

know. Yeah. Well, I did not know that

2:45:19

as well, that it got to that point

2:45:21

where he not only was working retail, but

2:45:23

he had another job doing, what was it?

2:45:25

A truck driver. Truck driver. Can you imagine,

2:45:27

you know, sitting there at

2:45:29

the grocery and a truck pulls up

2:45:31

with the produce and it's earthquake driving it.

2:45:34

Yeah. That's wild. But, uh,

2:45:37

but yeah, you know, and that's also

2:45:39

with a show like this or a

2:45:41

topic subject like this, it's a way

2:45:43

for you to actually tell the story

2:45:45

of somebody that deserves to have their

2:45:48

story told while still fitting in

2:45:51

some, you know, aspect with your

2:45:53

motif, because with a lot of the episodes, and we'll

2:45:55

get to those here in one second, it's,

2:45:58

you know, there's always some. element of, yes,

2:46:01

this is tragic, but boy, so and so

2:46:03

brought it on themselves. But

2:46:06

this was not the case here. But

2:46:08

who are, let's talk about some of

2:46:11

the folks that were, of course, Tuesday

2:46:13

nights at 10 o'clock Eastern on Vice

2:46:17

TV. And if you're not in Eastern time, then

2:46:19

do your math. I can't do it for you.

2:46:23

But that's where we're going to see Dark Side

2:46:25

of the Ring for the following next nine weeks.

2:46:27

We got nine more episodes to go. Who's on

2:46:29

tap? Well, the

2:46:31

second episode of season five is

2:46:34

going to be another episode I never would have thought we

2:46:36

would have done. That might

2:46:38

be a theme here, but

2:46:40

is Buff Bagwell. And,

2:46:44

you know, obviously, growing up right

2:46:47

in the pocket of 90s, you

2:46:49

know, WCW, NWO, definitely

2:46:51

obviously remember him as a fixture of the

2:46:54

NWO at one of the arrogant heels of

2:46:56

that group. And I'd

2:46:58

heard rumblings of his story. Obviously, he's

2:47:00

had some, you know, challenges

2:47:03

with addiction and, you

2:47:06

know, crashed his car several times.

2:47:08

Trials and tribulations. Trials and tribulations.

2:47:11

Yeah, exactly. And, you know,

2:47:13

you hear about that stuff and then you

2:47:15

heard, you know, his post-wrestling career

2:47:18

was sort of being a

2:47:20

male escort. Well, gigolo, male

2:47:22

gigolo. Yeah. And appearing on

2:47:24

reality TV shows of the,

2:47:26

you know, involving that. But

2:47:29

I have to be honest with you, I

2:47:31

was someone who was very dubious if this

2:47:33

would be a fit for

2:47:35

the show and admittedly, you

2:47:37

know, probably wrongfully. And but

2:47:39

when we started filming this and

2:47:42

getting the interviews of some of the

2:47:44

people that, you know, his family, ex-wives,

2:47:48

childhood friends, I'm

2:47:51

going to go on a limb and say it's some of

2:47:53

the craziest stories we've ever captured on for any of the

2:47:55

episodes. Well, that's what I was about to say. For people

2:47:57

who may say, well, Buff Bagwell,

2:47:59

you... used to be my favorite wrestler. Now I'll

2:48:01

come to think of it. Nobody's ever said that, but

2:48:03

for people who say, but

2:48:06

Bagwell, the outside the ring

2:48:08

stuff that wasn't on television, it has a

2:48:10

lot more potential for entertainment than some of

2:48:12

the stuff that was on television. Doesn't it?

2:48:15

Oh my God. Well, one

2:48:17

of the things that I did not know

2:48:19

going into this was that there was a

2:48:22

domestic altercation before Buff got

2:48:24

into the wrestling business. There

2:48:27

was a huge altercation between his dad

2:48:29

and his mom, Judy Bagwell, of course,

2:48:31

who would actually become a

2:48:33

part of the wrestling business later on.

2:48:35

Who would later on become a noted

2:48:37

pole sitter. Yeah, right. Exactly. And WCW.

2:48:41

But there was a huge altercation between his

2:48:43

mom and his dad and, you know, a

2:48:45

young Buff, he was scared. He went and

2:48:47

grabbed a fucking gun and shot his dad.

2:48:50

Um, did he not know? Did

2:48:52

you know this? I was not aware of this

2:48:55

one. He shot his dad,

2:48:57

his dad survived and

2:48:59

he's actually in the episode. Um,

2:49:02

and they both talk about this, you know,

2:49:04

very defining moment in their personal history and

2:49:06

they were able to obviously, you know, come

2:49:08

together in the end, but it's just the,

2:49:11

the environment that Buff grew up in,

2:49:13

uh, cause he did grow up

2:49:15

pretty much, you know, like

2:49:17

his family was in, in, in the

2:49:19

Georgia area where they grew up, they

2:49:21

were known to everybody. They had a

2:49:23

lot of money. They had a very

2:49:26

successful family business and a

2:49:28

lot of it came crashing down and it just

2:49:30

sounded the insanity of what was going on in

2:49:32

that household is on like a 10. So

2:49:35

that I didn't know. So all that stuff is going to

2:49:37

be a surprise to everybody. Uh,

2:49:39

obviously, you know, his run-ins with the law,

2:49:41

his, his, uh, his problems with addiction, and

2:49:44

of course the male escort

2:49:46

era of his, uh, career and his, and

2:49:48

he does have a redemption. And you can

2:49:50

tell that a lot of people really care

2:49:52

about him. They want the best for him

2:49:55

and want to see the, you know, the, you know, want

2:49:57

to see the best for him. And, um, and I, and

2:49:59

now. in terms of where he's at in life.

2:50:02

Um, it seems like he's come out the other

2:50:04

side. So there is a redemptive quality to the

2:50:07

story, but this is a roller coaster ride of

2:50:09

an episode, I will say. I, I always thought

2:50:11

that the handsome stranger never got a chance to

2:50:13

get over. Uh,

2:50:15

that gimmick could have been WrestleMania

2:50:17

main event worthy. Well,

2:50:20

the American males too. And, and,

2:50:22

uh, him with, uh,

2:50:24

Scotty Riggs, um, and who's

2:50:26

also in the episode. Well, actually

2:50:28

those gimmicks actually did stand a

2:50:30

chance, but did you study the

2:50:32

handsome stranger era? Think he

2:50:34

gets a mention. I think he gets a mention in

2:50:37

there. Um, it, I think

2:50:39

between, it was a

2:50:41

collaboration, I think between Joe Petasino and

2:50:43

Burt Prentice, that gimmick, he was masked

2:50:45

and he had the flowers

2:50:47

that he would bring to a select

2:50:50

young lady at ringside in the Sportatorium in

2:50:52

Dallas where there were 200 people. And

2:50:56

the prettiest young lady at ringside

2:50:58

probably was wearing an oxygen tank

2:51:00

and using a Walker, uh,

2:51:03

but I always got a kick out of

2:51:05

that one, but, uh, we will, we will

2:51:08

anxiously await, uh,

2:51:10

learning more about buff bag

2:51:12

wells outside the ring activities

2:51:15

than, than some of the

2:51:17

inside the ring stuff. Although that's, it's

2:51:19

got potential as well. He broke his

2:51:22

neck on television. He's got

2:51:24

that going for him. Don't forget that. I

2:51:26

mean, it's crazy. For all the people

2:51:28

who say, well, I can't, that can't happen. It

2:51:31

did happen. It can happen again anytime

2:51:33

the way things are going. Uh,

2:51:36

so, and then we move to. Terry

2:51:39

Worty. Week number three, that's one

2:51:42

that I'm looking forward to quite

2:51:44

extensively. And I

2:51:47

know we did this. I'm not trying

2:51:49

to shoehorn myself into all these things.

2:51:51

I know that we talked about Terry

2:51:53

at length when we shot,

2:51:55

but who were you able to get and

2:51:58

how much fun was that putting together? go back watch

2:52:00

some of that old footage. Oh,

2:52:04

I mean Terry Gordy is one of my favorite wrestlers

2:52:06

of all time and it was an honor to do

2:52:08

this episode. Something we actually have wanted to do for

2:52:10

a very long time in some capacity. Either a Terry

2:52:13

Gordy show or a fabulous Freebirds show is

2:52:15

something that's always been super high on our

2:52:17

list to do. And

2:52:20

it was reaching

2:52:23

out to the Gordy family and wanting to

2:52:25

make sure that they wanted this to happen,

2:52:27

to participate in it, which they did. So

2:52:30

the episode features both of his

2:52:32

children, Ray Gordy and of course

2:52:34

Miranda Gordy, who's a wrestler nowadays.

2:52:38

And yourself, this is Jim Cornette's

2:52:41

first appearance in season five. And

2:52:44

we talked to Kevin Sullivan. We

2:52:46

talked to David Manning, of

2:52:49

course, the ref from world class. Jimmy

2:52:51

Garvin is in the episode. Mick Foley

2:52:53

is in the episode. And

2:52:56

I think one of his friends

2:52:58

who was on that fateful flight

2:53:00

where Terry had the big overdose,

2:53:04

which of course is the incident that sort

2:53:07

of changed his personality. But

2:53:10

it was awesome to be able to go back to

2:53:12

watch all the footage, to highlight his time in Japan.

2:53:14

I mean, watching his matches in Japan, I mean, there's

2:53:16

nothing like it. And being

2:53:21

able to spotlight the greatest tag

2:53:24

team name ever in wrestling is when

2:53:26

he teamed with Dr. Death. And they

2:53:28

were the miracle violence connection. My

2:53:31

favorite tag name ever. Amazing

2:53:33

stuff to see that a lot of footage of Dr.

2:53:35

Death that

2:53:38

we used in terms of interviews

2:53:40

he's given about Terry. There's interviews Terry's

2:53:43

given that is in there. And

2:53:46

the thing about Terry is that

2:53:49

the start of his career

2:53:51

perfectly coincided with the start

2:53:53

of the videotape era where

2:53:56

people were just starting to get the VHS machine. So

2:53:58

you've got the end of the. W.A.

2:54:00

saved their footage so you can see Terry Mecca when

2:54:02

he was 14 years old. And

2:54:05

of course you can't see anything

2:54:07

from the Culkins in Mississippi where he really,

2:54:11

you know, started growing up. But then there's

2:54:13

the, you know, the free birds debut on

2:54:15

Memphis television. And you can, then

2:54:18

when you go to Japan, you can see he

2:54:20

was literally growing up

2:54:23

in front of our eyes because when we first

2:54:25

saw him here in this territory, he was 16

2:54:27

years old. And

2:54:29

then he's 18 and he's a free bird.

2:54:32

And then they're in the super

2:54:34

dome. And then he's going to Japan by the

2:54:36

time he's 22 years old. He's,

2:54:40

but he was six, what, four and 250 when

2:54:42

he was 16. So

2:54:45

he grew

2:54:47

up in terms of his

2:54:50

career and his talent and his blossoming

2:54:52

as a worker. But

2:54:55

he was always a fucking big

2:54:57

fucking kid from Chattanooga. Yeah.

2:55:00

And that's something we do highlight too is that I think

2:55:02

he is one of the youngest people

2:55:04

to break into professional wrestling.

2:55:07

Because I know he was working well before he could

2:55:10

legally drive, I think, right? Was it like 14 or

2:55:12

something? Yeah. So you see that and

2:55:14

that's amazing. And then yeah, by

2:55:16

the time he's 18, he's like, you know,

2:55:18

he's fully formed and kick

2:55:21

an ass. And obviously

2:55:23

with the overdose that he

2:55:25

suffered, you know, on the trip to Japan, and of

2:55:27

course it went into the coma and, you know, he

2:55:29

was never the same after that. Just

2:55:32

the contrast that viewers will see from

2:55:34

what Houtari was before, you know, to

2:55:36

after is very heartbreaking.

2:55:39

And the testimonials from

2:55:41

his children really do, really, as

2:55:45

you'll see in the episode, what hold a lot

2:55:47

of this together in terms of their strength and

2:55:49

what they had to go through. And what they

2:55:51

saw and how difficult it was for them. I

2:55:54

think this episode does give a full, just

2:55:57

a totally new perspective on Terry. you

2:56:00

know and and what everybody you know what he was

2:56:02

going through and what the challenges he had and what

2:56:04

everybody else did as well it's a very sad story

2:56:07

but it's also great to be able

2:56:09

to spotlight truly one of the best in the

2:56:11

ring ever for my money well

2:56:14

how you gonna follow that Brutus

2:56:18

the Barbara beefcake hahaha

2:56:23

okay now do you get to the

2:56:25

bottom of the the

2:56:28

question that is on everybody's mind about

2:56:31

Brutus the Barbara beefcake and his

2:56:33

life and career in this episode

2:56:35

do you do investigative reporting do

2:56:37

you delve deep and find out

2:56:39

just exactly when missy beefcake became

2:56:41

his manager she suddenly popped

2:56:43

up on TV last year yeah as

2:56:47

his manager slash

2:56:49

wife and and

2:56:51

then I've all I've heard her all

2:56:53

I've heard all I've heard

2:56:56

about her on Twitter and the internet since

2:56:58

then is that Greg Valentine don't like her

2:57:02

well I mean she's definitely been

2:57:04

a divisive personality to

2:57:07

Brutus's friends and

2:57:10

this episode one part of

2:57:12

this episode is it does chronicle

2:57:14

the front the decades-long friendship

2:57:17

of course between him and Hulk Hogan right they broke

2:57:19

into the business around the

2:57:21

same time wherever Hulk goes

2:57:24

Brutus went yeah and obviously

2:57:26

the episode also gets into

2:57:28

the horrifying parasailing accident that

2:57:31

almost totally obliterated his face and

2:57:35

I remember reading I was reading

2:57:37

Brutus's autobiography at one point and the

2:57:41

the chapter where he talks

2:57:43

about what happened was so

2:57:45

gruesome and visceral that it

2:57:47

made me ill it made me physically ill like

2:57:50

what you know how he described what happened you

2:57:52

know to his face there's

2:57:55

a part in there where you know and we

2:57:57

get into this to tie it

2:57:59

back to the host Hogan friendship is

2:58:01

like I think Brutus's parents had recently passed

2:58:03

away by that point in time. So

2:58:06

like his sort of closest

2:58:08

person in life, you know, is next of

2:58:10

kin, if you will, you know, wasn't a

2:58:12

family member. It really was Hulk Hogan and

2:58:14

they got because they wanted someone to sit

2:58:16

bedside with him that had

2:58:19

a recognizable voice to him. Right.

2:58:22

Yeah. And so they picked Hogan and Hogan shows

2:58:24

up and he's the guy taking care of him.

2:58:26

And then there's that horrifying story where

2:58:29

Hogan takes him out of the bed and walks

2:58:31

him down the hospital hallway so he can, you

2:58:33

know, walk around a little bit and his eyeball

2:58:35

popped out, you know, and

2:58:38

like, okay, brother, let's put you

2:58:40

back to bed, brother. You know, and

2:58:42

so it was just like, oh

2:58:45

my God. You know, so when we, when

2:58:49

Hogan tells the story, his brain fell out

2:58:51

his eye socket. Right. Exactly.

2:58:54

And Harley race lit it on fire.

2:58:57

But no, when

2:59:00

we did the Marty Gennady episode

2:59:02

last season, we interviewed Brutus

2:59:04

and Mrs. Beefcake

2:59:06

and we were just like, well, this

2:59:09

is a pretty interesting stuff going

2:59:11

on down here. Maybe, maybe

2:59:13

it could be an episode and,

2:59:17

and, you know, maybe that could be something. And

2:59:20

we started talking to him about it and then my

2:59:22

team was talking to me about it. Like, could we

2:59:24

do it? Could we do it? And I

2:59:26

basically was like, well, we're definitely getting into the parasailing

2:59:28

accident and we'll talk about the friendship, but I

2:59:31

will only, we will only do this

2:59:33

if we find the man who

2:59:36

reconstructed Brutus's face. And

2:59:39

lo and behold, we found the, we

2:59:41

found the plastic surgeon who of course

2:59:43

is a character. Of course he is.

2:59:46

And so this episode kind of

2:59:49

Gets a little bit into if there's like a,

2:59:51

like a medical reality show version of Dark Side

2:59:53

of the Ring. Now, wait a minute. Is There

2:59:56

going to be a viewer discretion on this? I

2:59:58

Don't like that medical.

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