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Music Like
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the midnight and the rock and
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roll He's in a fight for
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wrestling Soul using a racket and
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some mind control He's Jim Cornet
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The keys to the future Hell
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by the past And with tag
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team partner Brian Last He sends
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this message out by podcast He's
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Jim Cornet Well
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he's never fake a phony He
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never backs down from a fight He
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never wins the pony Because
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his mama raised him right
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It's time To
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prepare One
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night Get
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the experience Get
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the experience Get
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the experience Of
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Jim Cornet Hello
1:00
again everybody and welcome to
1:03
another episode of the Jim
1:05
Cornet Experience The WWE just
1:07
had backlash AEW is suffering
1:09
from whiplash And I've come within
1:11
an eyelash of watching all the
1:14
wrestling that I can watch It's
1:17
the Please God Make It Stop
1:19
edition of the Jim
1:21
Cornet Experience And joining me on
1:23
this hysterical ride Hawaiian
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Brian the Podcasting Lion The King
1:28
of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network
1:30
Mr. Co-host to you The
1:33
man who says about our recording
1:35
schedule It will never be over
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The great Brian Last everybody
1:40
Aloha Jim, a pleasure to be here once
1:42
again Thankfully I'm a little I
1:45
don't know, I'm tired today But it's your show so I
1:47
can just sit back and Enjoy
1:50
the good times and laugh along with the listeners
1:52
Yeah, if you try to sit back on this
1:54
one They'll be playing an organ over the top
1:56
of you And
1:59
it won't be at a ballpark either. It'll
2:02
be very, as Dream Machine
2:04
you say, they'll be ready to
2:06
lay you out and have some sad singing and
2:08
slow walking done over you. Oh
2:12
boy, you
2:14
know I was telling you this yesterday because ladies
2:16
and gentlemen, members of the Cult of Cornet, listeners
2:19
and concerned citizens out there
2:21
everywhere, whatever time
2:24
or day you are listening to this,
2:27
it could have been done almost 24
2:30
hours sooner had I
2:32
had the goddamn will to go
2:34
on. And
2:36
I said to you yesterday, I said,
2:40
we just recorded a show 36 hours ago, there's been
2:43
a smack down, there's been
2:45
a pay-per-view, there's been things
2:48
going on, but
2:51
how many times can we talk about
2:53
these things in quick succession and goddamn it,
2:55
we just need a break
2:59
every once in a while. I need to get
3:01
my thoughts together because people have real
3:04
lives and or other people have real
3:06
jobs instead of you and me. But
3:09
we've all got lives of some description
3:11
and how much wrestling
3:14
can you watch and here is
3:18
the big deep question in this Brian,
3:21
will the WWE benefit
3:24
from viewer fatigue because
3:27
when you don't have
3:29
time for everything, you just kind of pick the
3:33
top of the line stuff, right? The
3:36
number one show, the brand name. How
3:39
much more fucking wrestling can people, and
3:42
they're between AEW and WWE
3:46
just on television in a
3:48
seven day period every week,
3:51
plus the programs that are about
3:53
wrestling, whether it be the biographies,
3:55
the treasures, the rivals
3:58
with WWE at Dark Side. There's
4:01
20 hour and a paper, throw a
4:03
paper view in there because there's one of those
4:05
every two weeks, right? WWE once
4:07
a month, AEW is going once a month now.
4:11
Has 20 plus hours if you're just
4:13
watching it. That's half of people's work
4:15
week. So
4:18
much less for us it all blurring
4:21
together and looking the same after a
4:23
while. How do
4:25
people have the time to invest when they
4:27
have a 40 hour work week and they
4:29
might have a dog
4:31
that needs to walk or a sick
4:34
ant gladdus that needs chicken soup or whatever? Do
4:36
you see what I'm saying here? You
4:40
know, I think people can get burned out
4:42
on watching wrestling faster than they can get
4:44
burned out on talking or thinking about
4:46
wrestling. And I'm
4:49
a baseball fan and primarily
4:51
I like to watch my team and sometimes that's the
4:53
only teams games, or at least in the past I
4:55
was the only teams games that were available to you
4:58
before there were packages to get other out
5:00
of town games. And I
5:03
would listen to sports radio
5:06
all day until the game. I
5:09
didn't get sick of it. I didn't get sick of the
5:11
conversation. I didn't get sick of the callers. I got sick
5:14
of a few of the hosts. Russ
5:16
Salzberg sucked. But
5:18
he went away and the schmoozer stayed.
5:23
But I think that's the point. People can get
5:25
sick of the content maybe or get disappointed with
5:27
it and kind of hang on the
5:29
periphery and just wait for things to get better. But
5:32
no one ever gets tired of thinking or
5:35
talking or wanting to hear other people talk
5:37
about wrestling. Well, and or whatever
5:39
their interest is because that's kind of two
5:41
different sides of the potential coin
5:44
there in that you never get tired of
5:46
the concept of what you're interested in or
5:50
as you said, talking about it, which you can
5:52
kind of control if you're talking about it with
5:54
someone, you can end the conversation. Or if you
5:57
are listening to a program about it, you can
6:00
You can pick that time and you can more
6:02
listen to a conversation rather than wrestling. You have
6:04
to put your eyes
6:06
on it, right? You have to see what's going
6:08
on. It's a more immersive experience. And
6:12
unfortunately, today with
6:15
the airwaves dominated by the
6:18
top two companies, we're not trying to
6:20
just say WWE, but Jesus Christ, they're
6:23
everywhere. Check your home movies, folks. It
6:27
starts to look the same. And
6:30
it led the fan of the territory days,
6:32
but after video, home
6:35
video came in, VHS, whatever,
6:38
you could get the different tapes
6:40
and every promotion came from a
6:43
different place with different announcers, a
6:45
different crew of wrestlers,
6:49
the completely different presentations.
6:53
And also most of the shows were an hour. Some
6:56
were an hour and a half, Houston, Memphis,
7:00
TBS was two hours. But you get the
7:02
point is you could
7:04
watch it in smaller increments,
7:06
everything looked different. You didn't get tired
7:08
of it because it's the concept of
7:10
what you like. But
7:13
this is just fatigue at this point with
7:15
being able to keep up with different
7:20
programs containing the same general
7:23
fucking look, people and
7:25
presentation on
7:27
each company. I'm not saying AEW
7:29
looks anything like WWE in those
7:32
categories, but God
7:34
almighty, Jim Manelli
7:37
Shelley, we
7:40
need some shoot up here amongst
7:42
us because one of us needs some relief. Can't
7:46
do that without the noise. Wait a minute. Anyway,
7:56
I just thought, again, people have to go
7:58
out there and pay their bills. bills and
8:01
nurse their children and wean their
8:03
dogs and castrate their goats
8:05
and things. They have real lives. They
8:07
don't just have time
8:10
to sit glued to the goddamn screen
8:13
for the latest developments, do they? For
8:16
heaven's sake. I'm
8:20
just saying, we're getting so much of this now without
8:23
an appreciable
8:28
difference in
8:31
look or talent that
8:34
it just, you know, a few
8:36
people stand out. We'll talk about some of them
8:38
later on. Guess
8:40
what I got? Herpes.
8:45
Have you been in my
8:47
medical file over at Arcadian
8:49
Vanguard? I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
8:51
forgive me, this is a Terry Taylor file. Let me put
8:54
this on. Oh ho! I
8:57
can't, I don't know anything about anyone's
8:59
medical records. Bill Dundee one time in
9:01
1982 said, fucking Terry Taylor, I can't
9:03
do the accent, but you'd have fucking
9:05
Terry Taylor if you have cracked his
9:07
head open little pussies would fall out.
9:11
But anyway, so do
9:14
you know what I got? Now,
9:16
besides- Pomidia! No, god damn it,
9:18
I don't even know that lady.
9:24
I got in a package in the mail I'll
9:26
have you. See, this is gonna
9:29
be the show because we're just, we're burnt. We're
9:31
burnt from this. We're tired folks, we're burnt. Please,
9:33
please help us. Start a
9:36
GoFundMe to send us to fucking
9:39
Desert Island somewhere with no wrestling.
9:43
But I got a package in the mail
9:45
from a longtime listener, friend of mine and
9:47
a member of the cult, a friend of
9:49
yours too, by
9:51
association, Owen T.
9:53
Han from Ireland, Dublin.
9:56
Oh yeah, he's a nice guy.
9:58
Yes, well I'm glad. I
10:00
approve of him. He has my approval. I'm
10:02
glad he got your seal of owe and
10:04
you can continue on now. Don't
10:06
make any mistakes. Don't fuck
10:08
up. But anyway, he dropped
10:11
me a quick line and a small token
10:13
of appreciation. I love the way they're so
10:15
polite over there across the pond. But
10:18
it's some Nando seasonings where
10:21
you just put the chicken breast in the bag of seasoning
10:23
and shake it up and fold it up and put it
10:25
in the oven and there you go. And
10:28
also some chips, potato
10:31
chips is what we call them over here. I
10:33
think they're crisps over there. But
10:36
different flavors that we was of different
10:39
mature cheese. And
10:43
I think, well, goddamn, I've forgotten the combinations
10:45
now. I wish I'd kept the bags. I
10:47
eat them already. But mature cheese
10:49
and dill relish was one of them. And
10:51
I don't know. That fucking
10:53
cheese didn't look a day over goddamn 18 to
10:55
me. But who am I to say? But
10:58
anyway, oh, and thank you. There was seasoning.
11:01
There was a t-shirt, some food
11:04
stuffs from over there. And
11:06
a local Irish
11:08
seasoning. Or
11:11
local Irish seasoning. I
11:13
get, well, I don't know
11:15
if it's local or reasonable. McDonald's or something like that.
11:17
See, I don't have the bag in front of me.
11:19
We haven't tried that yet, but we're going to cook.
11:22
I don't know what. It
11:24
says seasoning, but that's
11:26
the only clue I got. There's no picture on
11:28
it to give me an idea.
11:31
Nobody with a flame coming out of their mouth or
11:33
anything. All right. Here,
11:37
it was a, got
11:39
an email from Frank Culbertson. And
11:42
by the way, he's another good guy. I've
11:44
proven him too. Oh, God, see, I'm on
11:46
a roll here today. Fuck. Wait,
11:49
will you hear the rest of these names? We can vet
11:51
this whole crowd. Frank.
11:54
And also I set him straight. I'll tell you here
11:56
on the air on your post office box because he's,
11:59
they have done. a,
12:01
or are in the process
12:04
of finishing up or about to print or
12:06
wherever it is in this, a book on
12:08
Hawaii. What? What
12:11
are you laughing about? Oh, I'll reveal the joke out
12:13
of the air. It's not that bad. Every time Frank
12:16
puts out a book, I buy that book. I'm not
12:18
ashamed to say it. And every
12:20
time he puts out a book, right
12:22
after I buy it, we get an email saying
12:24
that a book's in the mail for you and
12:26
Brian. And I never get
12:28
that book. Well, he had
12:30
your goddamn, how long has it
12:32
been since you've lived out in
12:34
Long Branch or Long Whistle? Long
12:36
Beach? Long Island. Long Beach? It's
12:39
been a long time since I've been in Long Beach,
12:41
New York. How the hell did I get that address?
12:43
There's a lot of books there waiting for you, pal.
12:46
Oh my God. That's what
12:48
the problem has been. So
12:51
anyway, you got one coming now. Um,
12:55
hopefully we'll see. Well, this is going to
12:57
be a big test. It's
12:59
a big one, 540 pages. But
13:02
he and Mike Rogers, who's amazing. They're
13:04
the Portland historians, but they've hopped over.
13:08
It's not even trans-pacific or whatever. It's
13:10
just out in the ocean there to
13:12
Hawaii. And they have done a Hawaii
13:14
history book that we're looking forward
13:16
to getting, especially now that you don't live in
13:19
Long Beach anymore and haven't for years and years
13:21
and years. I
13:23
assume there will be a large series
13:25
of chapters on the amazing work
13:27
of Leah Mivya as
13:30
a promoter in Hawaii. I believe
13:32
that's going to be
13:34
a post-it note in the middle between chapters
13:36
10 and 11. Yes,
13:38
a mugshot bookmark for
13:40
the first 50 buyers. What
13:43
a work for Mick Jagger and David Bowie and
13:45
Johnny Cash. We've got that coaster
13:48
set. Have you seen that? What, you're getting
13:50
arrested? A mugshot? No, no, no.
13:53
They're very marketable. They've
13:55
made a coaster set for your bar
13:57
or rec room or whatever
13:59
facility. that you entertain in of
14:01
drink coasters of all these people's
14:04
mug shots over the years. What
14:06
about Sinatra? Sinatra's on
14:08
there? You need that one. That's a big one.
14:10
You got to have that. Anyway, back to Frank.
14:12
Can we be Frank for a minute? Let's be
14:15
Frank about this, yes. Well, Frank
14:18
wrote also an interesting antidote,
14:20
as the kids say, from
14:23
a time that, you
14:25
know, he's done a lot of television
14:28
interviews for the Portland and
14:30
Northwest programs, and they
14:32
were doing a Comcast, I believe, as
14:34
he said, the Comcast Studios. And
14:37
this may have been a studio taping because
14:39
Grappler had bled, and he
14:42
was all bandaged up, and they were going
14:44
to do the promo to talk
14:47
about his opponent, who was Moondog Moretti, and, you
14:49
know, I'm going to get even, and blah, blah,
14:51
blah. And they
14:54
had to do the fucking promo,
14:57
and they said, well, you could just, you know, because
15:00
this is after the match has happened, apparently. So, you
15:02
see, you could just put some
15:04
shit on your mask or whatever, a ketchup,
15:06
and he's, ah, he laughed, he
15:09
pulls the fucking band-aid off
15:11
his forehead, and he does the fucking
15:14
knuckle deal that
15:16
sometimes works and sometimes has a rib on
15:18
yourself, where if you got used to the
15:20
night before, and you don't want to
15:23
blade again, if
15:25
you hit it the right way with the point of
15:27
your fucking knuckle, it'll open up. And
15:30
the only time I ever tried to do it, it didn't
15:32
work worse yet. It was about a 50-50 deal. But
15:36
he, Lynn Denton the Grappler,
15:38
he just took the fucking band-aid off
15:40
and took his knuckle and bam, and
15:42
busted himself open again, and then
15:45
put the goddamn mask on so he
15:47
could bleed through the mask for the
15:49
promo. So that dedication to your
15:53
goddamn profession, because it, as I've said so
15:55
many times, it would
15:57
have been an insult To
15:59
most of the guys. guys in the. In
16:02
the inner back in a pioneer days.
16:04
If you insinuated the blood was faker,
16:06
ask them to use fake blood. As
16:09
a would say, people could see through it. Just.
16:13
An amusing antidote. Their. Brad.
16:16
Have you ever had success with open up
16:18
an old gig? Mark where your bug and
16:20
knuckle middle finger? no. Beds.
16:23
It's is not easy. It.
16:25
Might use. That's why a lot of guys look like
16:27
they've been run through fog and Gillette Factory to. They're
16:30
just easier to do it that way. Anyway,
16:34
Would. You like to have an
16:36
examination. From. A and on.
16:39
And. What know? I know, I'm a proper
16:41
tall adjust the know that's literally no.
16:45
Such. As some random brought all just not
16:47
even my own. Similar.
16:51
Take for you take a minute. some you accept.
16:54
That I was circuits know would
16:57
you like to have it examination
16:59
of. Have
17:01
a t W attendance figures
17:04
and or percentages from an
17:06
actual data scientists. Do the.
17:10
Quest. I was gonna ask before you. Put.
17:13
Your own period and on it may answered me
17:15
too quickly. All the wood type of examinations have
17:17
you had know are you up to date on
17:19
all your shots? Based.
17:22
On Osha rules on homes and I
17:24
have the answer that over your like
17:26
asking that either well as be his
17:28
supervisor. I'd. I have none
17:30
at Slaughterhouse. Wow. The lawsuit? Discover your
17:32
air while are you going to? And
17:35
by the way, those Osha. I.
17:37
Don't Or he didn't He didn't he fuck
17:39
an ice cube son to of stupid she
17:42
just causes trouble. Oh
17:45
shit son, oh sure is a girl's
17:47
name on a man's name? Oh I
17:49
thought it was Oshie Jackson who. Will.
17:52
Not. Change south with
17:54
so is your find out where your.
17:56
You. Threw me off. You.
17:58
keep changing years Anyway, from
18:02
James, I won't give his last name in
18:04
case he wants to seek
18:06
employment anywhere else in the future. In case
18:08
he has friends or family. Family,
18:11
people he cares about. But
18:14
he did say hello to you
18:16
and me. He's a long-time listener, member
18:18
of the cult, and
18:21
one of his favorite parts of the shows
18:23
are the discussions around the viewership for an
18:25
attendance of AEW programs with
18:29
the Wrestle-Tix quotes, reports,
18:31
etc. Because
18:34
he's a data scientist
18:36
and he has fun with
18:38
numbers. And he sent
18:40
me a sheet and, God damn it, I wish
18:43
there's no way I could even read this and
18:45
make sense. It's just lines and lines of the
18:47
shows and how much the
18:49
building holds, what they actually set it
18:51
up for when AEW was there, how
18:53
many tickets they distributed, how
18:55
many empty seats they had, percentage of
18:58
venue empty, it's God damn amazing. You
19:01
know, there's these people that have these ability to
19:03
do these things with these numbers. God
19:06
damn, they ought to charge more money for their work. I
19:09
got this for free. But anyway,
19:11
there's four statistics I would like to bring
19:13
up to you in this report
19:16
that's been done here. Would you like to hear
19:18
them, Brian? Yes,
19:20
and again, we don't know if James,
19:22
if we don't know if that's his real name, and we
19:24
also don't know if he has any
19:26
of the qualifications truly to be doing it.
19:28
No, no, he's just gone. He's
19:31
from public documentation,
19:33
from Wrestle-Tix, from things that we
19:35
have read and have been reported
19:37
in the buildings. He's done all
19:40
the adding and the subtracting and
19:42
the gazentas. You
19:45
know, two gazendas, six, three times,
19:48
two gazendas, eight, four times, and
19:51
he's figured all these things up. The
19:55
average building capacity
19:59
Of the arenas that we have in the building,
20:01
a W has run for Dynamite. In.
20:03
Twenty Twenty Four Just since January
20:05
first. Is twelve thousand
20:08
six hundred and eighty seats. That.
20:11
Means that there would be arenas that.
20:14
That. They've done or dynamite tapings
20:16
in. If. You open
20:18
the full seating capacity of that
20:20
arena forbidding event. Advil's it up!
20:23
And you average that out. Twelve
20:25
thousand, Six hundred, eighty. As
20:28
but. As brave big buildings you know I
20:30
actually thought of would have been bigger. As
20:32
she says you are running. On.
20:34
Average bigger buildings but that were that.
20:36
we aren't even as crazy as I
20:38
thought it was gonna be. See and
20:40
in the now I will show your
20:42
for example when they were at the
20:44
Coca Cola Coliseum in Toronto is a
20:46
whole seventy seven hundred the Coca Cola's
20:49
how will see him as and when
20:51
they were in Dailies Place in Jacksonville.
20:53
At. Only holes. Fifty five hundred to matter what
20:55
you do with. It. And.
20:57
There was the U and O Lakefront
21:00
Arena New Orleans, my old hometown. eighty
21:02
seven hundred as so. While.
21:04
They were in the Td Garden in
21:06
Boston at nineteen thousand and Five Eighty,
21:08
Or the Prudential Center at sixteen thousand,
21:10
or the Footprints Center in Phoenix. that
21:12
eighteen bows and. They
21:15
also have. The. Indiana Farmers Coliseum.
21:17
Remember we talked about that They were
21:19
in the ninety year old A be
21:21
a building. That's that. Sixty eight hundred.
21:24
Course Now honestly, these are the
21:27
listed capacities for arenas. But.
21:29
As you know, If. You
21:31
put seats on the floor for wrestling. You
21:33
get more in so for wrestling you couldn't.
21:36
Do. Over and Bruiser used to over
21:39
a thousand for wrestler so this the more
21:41
so we thought. But let's continue on. The.
21:45
Average building capacity. As
21:47
I mentioned, twelve thousand, six hundred a
21:50
seats. The. Average number
21:52
of empty seats for a
21:54
devotee Dynamite so far and
21:57
Twenty Twenty Four. Based.
21:59
on exp of the arenas they have run,
22:03
average number of empty seats 10,235 seats. This
22:10
translates to an average building being
22:12
72.47% empty. Now
22:19
you say, well how can that be? Because
22:21
it looks like there's people there. Well if
22:25
you opened up the entire building, that's what
22:27
we're talking about. But as we know AEW
22:30
shrinks it down a little bit to the sections
22:32
that they can shoot, it'll be on camera and
22:35
they tarp off things and blah blah
22:37
blah, right? So the
22:40
average setup, the average building capacity may
22:42
be 12,680 but the average
22:47
setup for these buildings is
22:50
3,350. That's
22:55
what they're actually... so
22:59
obviously they're setting up a 20,000 seat
23:02
building for a little bit more but
23:05
yes that's the average setup no
23:07
matter what size the building and
23:09
one more statistic and then
23:11
I will open the floor to your comments.
23:14
The average tickets distributed which
23:16
are sold or given away
23:19
for promotion according
23:21
to RussellTix is 24,45 which
23:23
means there's an average of
23:28
1,086 tickets
23:31
left unsold per show
23:34
even with the smaller setups. So
23:40
that means basically the average
23:42
then down here
23:45
on the chart here of percent
23:48
of venue empty is
23:51
almost 80% and
23:55
the worst one, hold on I'll give you one more
23:57
Brian because this is fun, when
23:59
they went to the BOK Center in
24:02
Tulsa, Oklahoma, I don't know who Bach
24:04
is or what he had to do
24:06
with it. The
24:08
building capacity was 19,199. They distributed 1,593 tickets. That
24:11
means the building was 91.70% empty.
24:25
Your thoughts? You
24:28
know, even if we ignore all the
24:30
booking problems, and it's
24:32
hard to completely ignore them because they're a big part of
24:34
why people aren't coming out. The
24:37
problems with the way
24:40
they've handled the scheduling of live events has been
24:42
going back for a long time. This
24:44
was a Raphael Morfi era problem
24:47
where they would run non-stop
24:50
in Texas, non-stop in California,
24:52
non-stop in Canada, non-stop
24:54
in the Northeast, and
24:56
then burn out every market. There
25:00
are very few markets, if
25:02
any, that AEW returns to when the
25:04
crowd goes up. WWE
25:07
right now is as hot as they get. They're
25:09
selling out shows with like no
25:11
lineup. You know, what are
25:13
the matches on Raw? You don't know. You don't care.
25:17
They can't get people in the door. The booking is one thing.
25:21
They burned out markets, I think is
25:23
another. Well,
25:27
what are they coming back with that
25:29
is in any way superior to whatever
25:31
they would have presented a year or
25:33
two years ago at a
25:35
live event or a TV taping, whatever? You
25:37
see, they had the wrestlers they had, but
25:39
they were also the fresh thing. They were
25:41
getting publicity for being the fresh thing. If
25:43
there was ever a time for someone
25:46
to check out something different, even
25:49
if they didn't have issues with WWE,
25:51
that was the time. That
25:53
was the publicity. Now
25:55
they are just there. Again,
26:00
this is two weeks AEW has
26:02
done what for them
26:04
are hot angles, the
26:06
attack of Tony Khan, the attack of Kenny Omega.
26:09
Is anyone talking about it? Is
26:11
anyone talking about it? No, instead we're talking about a
26:14
B-paper-view that took place in France before fans
26:17
that like to sing. That's
26:21
the story not Kenny Omega
26:23
potentially having his guts destroyed.
26:28
And the bookings a problem, the live event
26:30
strategy is a problem. I almost think and
26:33
there's no easy way to do it and I'm again
26:35
not a producer for them
26:37
at least. But I
26:39
always feel like you show in really small
26:41
places and make every place feel local so
26:44
that you're watching. You should make it almost like
26:47
that was one of the things with Nitro that
26:49
seems stupid but worked like the
26:51
Nitro parties where everyone wanted
26:53
to participate. Make
26:55
it more exclusive, make it smaller, make
26:58
it feel like each town that you're in and
27:01
then grow again because instead of running
27:04
these big buildings just
27:06
waiting to fill them up again ever? I
27:08
mean, right there again. I was about to
27:11
say, hold on there cowboy. Yes, they drew
27:13
80,000 people at Wembley or 70,000 or
27:15
85,000 or whatever the goddamn number. The
27:18
term style count you got to remember. Well,
27:23
they're going to just do a
27:25
little over half of that again
27:27
this year and they've drawn
27:29
some big crowds but let's face it, in
27:32
the last year, their
27:35
business, their live
27:38
ticket sales have not
27:41
dropped 75% or even if
27:43
they're not doing a half of what they did. They
27:48
were in big buildings last year and year
27:50
before that were too big because
27:55
Tony, I guess, is convinced and set down at
27:57
the start that they were going to fill them
27:59
up. So they
28:02
just, you know, except for the pandemic,
28:04
obviously, that's what they've been doing and
28:08
they've been filling them up. That's
28:11
what, like you said, are they just wishing? But
28:14
you could have made a course correction from
28:17
last year, Arena's book
28:19
in advance but not that far that
28:21
you can't fucking change something
28:23
you're gonna do a year from now.
28:27
And that's it, they've had this warning for a while
28:29
and now they're pissholes in a
28:31
snowbank. So I don't know what the fuck
28:33
they're thinking. Or
28:36
are they thinking? I
28:38
think they're thinking but maybe it's the
28:40
wrong thinkers. Maybe it's
28:43
the wrong thinkers. You mean they're thinkers
28:45
or stinkers? They're thinkers
28:47
could be stinkers. And they come up with
28:49
clinkers? And they come up
28:51
with clinkers. Well. Like Claude Cooper.
28:54
Hey, hey, hey! Don't you
28:56
say a word about Claude Cooper? Because
28:58
that goddamn cleaning woman, Clara Clifford, she's
29:01
the one that started that whole thing
29:03
making those accusations that kleptomaniac
29:06
Claude Cooper from Cleveland is the one who
29:08
copped the clean copper clappers kept in the
29:11
closet. See, that's
29:13
something the listeners may not know. It's kind of like
29:15
if you say Beetlejuice. If you just say the name and
29:17
I won't say it again, Jim goes into the whole
29:19
routine. Well, I'll tell you one thing. If I
29:22
ever find kleptomaniac Claude Cooper from
29:24
Cleveland and copped my clean copper clappers
29:27
that were kept in the closet, I'll
29:29
clobber him. Amazing.
29:33
Alright, another email. Bonjour,
29:35
Jim, and Monsieur Brian
29:37
Last. What
29:40
now? Why are you laughing
29:42
already? You know, I have
29:44
no good reason. I think
29:46
it was just the French. I think it was the French. Well,
29:49
is it cuz this man's French? Monsieur Brian.
29:51
How come you're not Monsieur Jim? Um,
29:56
well, because I'm Bonjour Jim.
29:58
Bonjour Jim comes before... Monsour
30:00
Brian Lass? Isn't Bonjour hello? Well...
30:05
Hello Jimin. What's Monsieur? Is it... Is
30:07
it Master? Or is it Monster? Is
30:09
it... M-Mister? What is... I think it...
30:12
You're his masseuse. Oh. Hello.
30:16
But you rubbed him the wrong way
30:18
so he had to fire you.
30:20
Anyway, nevertheless... Hey. This gentleman... Whose
30:23
name is Marty, so he sounds about
30:25
as French as I do. But
30:28
maybe that's a fucking Americanization of his
30:30
name. But anyway,
30:33
he does say I am a fan from
30:35
France and listen to the podcast for a
30:37
couple of years now. I
30:39
write you today for your next review
30:41
of SmackDown and Backlash France and give
30:44
you unpetite
30:47
resume of what the
30:49
fuck the crowd in Lyon was
30:51
saying. Okay,
30:54
remember they were singing and they were chanting.
30:56
We're going to get to it later on
30:58
in the program when we talk about the
31:00
shows. But this is your Rosetta Stone here.
31:02
This is the key to the translation. So
31:06
now you'll be able to understand, right Brian?
31:08
Are you going to follow along with this?
31:10
Well, you'll be able to understand too. This
31:12
will be your Rosetta Stone as well, wouldn't
31:14
it? Well, I'm going to teach a fine
31:16
to you and all the listeners out there.
31:19
Teach a fine. Okay. Teach a fine. Marty,
31:23
our Frenchman in residence goes on
31:25
to say after every count, like
31:27
the referees count, they
31:30
were saying undo, simplement
31:34
do, which
31:36
means one, two, only two,
31:38
or simply two. It's
31:41
a catchphrase used
31:43
by Mansour Philippe
31:45
Chiraud and Mansour Christopher
31:48
Agis, the
31:50
two French commentators. Do you remember then they
31:52
saw you, they were at the French announce
31:54
table. They didn't have the Spanish announce table.
31:57
They had the French announce table and those were the.
32:00
Monsieur Philippe and Monsieur
32:02
Christopher. Well that's interesting.
32:04
So that crowd was actually chanting
32:06
what the commentators say on their
32:08
local feed of whatever they see.
32:11
Yeah, because
32:13
he goes on to say Marty here,
32:18
they commentate everything WWE
32:21
here in France for the past 25 years. This
32:25
chant was a big tribute for
32:27
them from the French fans because they
32:29
barely get acknowledged by the office and
32:32
the WWE for their work. And
32:34
if we the French fans are this passionate
32:36
it's because of them. So
32:39
apparently they're music teachers also. But
32:42
he says they do an amazing job to
32:44
keep the fans interested even when it's boring.
32:48
And then there was a big chant for AJ. And
32:51
Corey you know but you're super hearing you
32:53
probably just pick it right out of
32:56
the air. You know Matt, I can't tell
32:58
what they're saying when it's in English. But
33:00
apparently said the second big chant for
33:03
AJ was, it list
33:06
veramant, it list
33:08
veramant, it list veramant
33:10
phenomenal la la la la la. That
33:13
sounds exactly like what it was, yeah. Well
33:17
that means he truly is. He
33:19
truly is. He truly is phenomenal
33:21
la la la la la la. Apparently
33:25
la la la la la la is
33:29
the same in both ways. Maybe it's an
33:31
international or just a global language, the language
33:33
of la la la la la. But
33:36
you can't really translate la la la
33:38
la la from
33:40
French to English. It sounds the
33:43
same. But
33:45
did I pronounce all that right? I
33:48
mean right enough. Well
33:50
the backstory of this apparently, according to
33:53
Marty, is that it's
33:55
an old song, a one hit wonder
33:58
in France back in summer of 19- 1997,
34:00
that's an old song to Marty. My socks
34:03
are from 1997 I'm wearing right now. Anyway,
34:08
other chants, when
34:10
a heel was taking over they would say
34:15
Say it tight See
34:17
apostrophe. How do you do see apostrophe E
34:19
with a drop over it? I don't know,
34:22
say it tight? Say
34:24
you say? Is it just your
34:27
say so? Say
34:30
say what you want.
34:32
Don't play games with
34:35
my emotion. Say
34:37
it tight, which
34:39
means it was mean or
34:42
the variation Sayest
34:44
past gentle that was not
34:46
nice or that was nasty
34:50
So can you imagine people in
34:52
English chanting that was
34:55
not nice? And in
35:00
the French are so much more musical because
35:02
ours is just barked out like fucking marching
35:05
orders like we're a goddamn bunch of
35:07
Gestapo's But they're just singing
35:09
to singing their way to work. See
35:12
what scares me is wrestling fans sometimes copy
35:14
other wrestling fans I kind of like when
35:16
it's something unique to a specific area. You
35:18
know when you go to France The fans will
35:21
be singing and dancing at the second And
35:24
you know when you go to England they can all be chanting and
35:26
you know have a beer in the other hand and You
35:29
know if you go to America, they're gonna you know sit there
35:31
and intently watch Yes, and
35:33
and take pictures and send
35:35
notes with their phones And
35:39
fuck you JD apparently does not need
35:41
a translation and
35:44
then And
35:46
then also when the table was broken
35:48
they chanted AGS and chiraud for the
35:50
French announcers And
35:53
also for the street profits
35:56
on SmackDown They
35:58
chanted Les
36:00
Les Blues, which
36:02
apparently means, let's go the
36:05
blue ones. Les Blues, that was
36:07
Misty Blues Stables name in France.
36:09
The Les Blues, yes. It
36:12
had a big tour of all of the finer video
36:16
stores. But
36:19
apparently, that's a football reference,
36:22
let's go the blue ones. It's not
36:24
racial against the blue people. That's
36:27
a football reference because the French team
36:29
plays in blue. So
36:31
they say, Les Les Blues, let's go
36:33
the blue ones. You
36:37
know there were certain people in the mountains
36:39
of Eastern Kentucky and East Tennessee at one
36:41
time that their skin
36:44
turned blue because of inbreeding over
36:46
the generations. One
36:48
time in the locker room, I blew myself. Thank
36:52
you, Lanny, but we're not talking now about
36:54
your skin tone. I'm a genius, so glory
36:56
and renown. Woe myself. But
37:05
anyway, those are the translations of some
37:07
of these things that on
37:10
the shows we'll talk about later on. Good
37:13
heavens. Did you ever take any French
37:15
or give any French? No,
37:17
but my Spanish teacher for the two years before I
37:19
dropped it in high school was a Frenchman. Well,
37:23
that doesn't seem like that would be allowed.
37:26
Aren't they violating some kind of gimmick infringement
37:28
rules there? I really didn't like him. He
37:30
was a bad teacher. I don't know, he
37:32
was hard to get along with. And then
37:34
once I left his class, I really saw
37:36
him as a sympathetic sad character. And
37:38
I really started to feel bad for him. Well,
37:40
you're ashamed the way you treated him, huh? I
37:43
didn't treat him bad. I laughed the way other
37:45
people did. I laughed. I laughed
37:47
very well. I got kicked out for laughing a few times.
37:49
See? That's even worse, laughing
37:51
at the other man's misfortune. I'll tell
37:53
you, I always gave my teachers
37:56
respect. And I'll have you know that
37:59
every single one. of my teachers all
38:01
through school, they said it was amazing. I
38:03
was the only student they'd ever had. They
38:05
could not, they could not
38:07
teach me anything. Did
38:10
you take French? Oh,
38:13
I've taken a little French every time it
38:15
was offered. As part of a school, as
38:17
part of a curriculum. Well, now it was
38:19
in school too. It just depends on now.
38:22
It wasn't official. There was
38:24
no paperwork on this. Maybe
38:27
we better change the subject entirely.
38:31
Have
38:33
you been over to jimcoronet.com
38:35
lately, Brian, to see
38:37
the plethora and the amazing array of fine
38:40
collectibles and merchandise that we have for sale?
38:42
I always tell Suzanne, I'm like, you should
38:44
go there and check it out. It's just
38:46
such a plethora. It's a
38:49
plethora. It's all over the floor. And
38:51
I mean, there's action figures, not only
38:54
of my own lovely and personal self,
38:56
but also the Midnight Express,
38:58
the 4-pack, the individual Lane and Eaton
39:00
and Lane and Condries, the heavenly bodies
39:02
of Lane and Dr. Tom Pritchard, as
39:04
well as the Cornhead Face t-shirts, which
39:07
are iconic. You love that word, iconic.
39:10
Well, they're iconic. They can be coming to
39:12
you in an iconic fashion.
39:14
The United States Postal Service, if
39:16
you purchase one right now, the cheapest
39:18
daggard, I won't say cheap. That
39:21
implies a level
39:23
of fucking shoddy workmanship,
39:25
inexpensive, affordable, quality
39:28
merchandise, the DVDs, the books, the
39:30
magazines, the fingerprints,
39:32
so much more. Go
39:35
now to jimcoronet.com and send some money
39:37
and you will be rewarded soon with
39:40
things to hold and squeeze and
39:42
call George. However, I'm
39:45
also going to have some big news next week on
39:47
something that I've recently found out that is winging
39:49
its way to me that's going to be offered
39:51
to the fine folks this
39:55
summer for amazingly
39:57
low prices. More news on that next
39:59
week. have the bird flu. Oh,
40:02
come on now. I'll
40:04
have you know that my deal with Bernie Sanders
40:06
is I've let him have that nest if he
40:08
doesn't bother and he has not pooped on my
40:10
desk or any of my shelves one time. He's
40:14
a very neat bird. And
40:17
for those of you who don't know what I'm talking
40:19
about, I've had a bird move into a nest that
40:21
had built on top of my garage door opener in
40:23
the garage. And I'm thinking,
40:25
cause now I just, I go out there and talk to
40:27
it several times a day and we
40:29
look each other in the eye. I'm two feet from it,
40:32
faced a beak. And
40:35
he doesn't bother him at all. He
40:37
knows he's cool here. And
40:40
we have a casual conversation
40:43
and he's in there first thing in the morning. And then
40:46
I tell him good night. Good night, birdie. Good
40:49
night, Jim. He talks back to me.
40:53
And I'm hoping that there's some eggs
40:55
in the nest and we'll get the chirp, chirp, chirping,
40:57
and I'll be able to up close it. He doesn't
40:59
seem to be picking at his seed. I
41:02
guess he's going out to get the worms. We've had all
41:04
the rain. Would
41:06
you think if you were a bird, you'd
41:09
prefer dry seed or wet worms? I
41:13
think wet worms would be kind of
41:15
a delicacy, right? Well, and as
41:17
if, especially if he or she indeed is eating
41:20
for two or three or four or however many
41:22
there's going to be, then
41:25
maybe that's why they are
41:27
going out for the birds or for the worms for the
41:30
bird. Do they enjoy, do they have, I
41:33
don't know too much about birds and I know you're a bird
41:35
lawyer, so I'm asking you, do they really
41:37
enjoy what they eat? Do they enjoy taste? They just
41:39
throw shit in their mouth and gulp it down. Do
41:43
they have taste buds? Do they enjoy what
41:45
they're ingesting? Well, first
41:47
of all, I just defend them. I don't pass
41:50
judgment on their eating habits. So
41:54
just because I'm a small town bird
41:56
lawyer doesn't mean that I I'm a
41:58
bird nutritionist. However, would assume that it's
42:02
kind of a genetic thing that you
42:04
would enjoy the thing that you
42:06
need to consume
42:10
in order to remain alive, whatever that
42:12
food is. So they may not like
42:15
cheeseburgers and Reese's Peanut Butter
42:17
Cups like normal humans
42:19
do, but at
42:22
the same point, we wouldn't want to eat a
42:24
worm, but it works for them because
42:26
they probably don't have the
42:28
facilities, especially with all the modern
42:30
building codes related to these nests to put
42:32
a full kitchen in where they can be
42:35
frying burgers or,
42:37
you know, and then, if, where would you toast the
42:39
buns at a bird's nest? Over
42:43
a fire. Well, then why are
42:45
you, did you realize how much trouble that
42:47
would cause if you set a fire in
42:50
a bird's nest in order to
42:52
toast the buns to go on
42:54
their burgers that they don't eat because that's why
42:56
they eat worms because they don't have a
42:58
kitchen in their fucking nest? See,
43:01
why would you, why would you want me to feed
43:03
my bird a cheeseburger? Why would
43:05
you even bring that up and suggest that?
43:08
I remind you, we're talking about jimcoronet.com.
43:12
Well, we were, but I was done till you fucking
43:16
insinuated that I would be sending
43:18
people out bird feces somehow in
43:21
the, I'm not
43:23
insinuating anyway. And
43:25
besides that, I just signed the stuff here.
43:27
The feather bottoms are the ones that's shipping
43:29
it out. There's no birds at the feather
43:32
bottoms. Amazingly enough. Always
43:34
passing blame. Pass,
43:37
always passing gas. Speaking
43:41
of, see folks, it's this kind of shit
43:43
you're going to get when they work us
43:45
too hard. Um, what
43:48
was I gonna, oh, I was going to
43:50
mention, mention. Oh yeah. Yeah.
43:53
It's time for Jim's benchings here on
43:55
the show. Well,
43:58
I'm on a bench and. I
44:01
was going to mention this
44:04
past week's episode of
44:06
Dark Side of the Ring featuring
44:08
the Sandman because
44:11
I was going to bring up because we you
44:13
know last week I believe it was we talked
44:15
about the episode on Sherry Martell and they've
44:17
done episodes on Harley Race this season, Chris
44:20
Cold. By the way
44:22
the season finale coming up this
44:25
week probably Tuesday night, goddamn
44:28
maybe tomorrow maybe by the time you
44:30
hear this it will have aired. It's
44:32
gonna be Black Saturday but it's gonna be
44:34
rerun so jump in and catch it many
44:36
times I'm on it. Is that a one-part
44:39
or a two-part episode? That is I believe
44:41
it's just a one-part unfortunate. Oh okay for
44:43
some reason I thought it was gonna be
44:45
a two-parter. Well don't
44:48
take my word for it then now you've made
44:50
me doubt myself as mama cornet
44:52
would say but just continue and folks
44:55
continue watching Vice TV 10
44:57
o'clock Eastern time every
45:00
Tuesday night and until the
45:02
next season starts just to make sure you don't miss
45:04
anything. But nevertheless
45:06
the point is this last week
45:08
was Sandman and I'm
45:12
gonna in interest of full disclosure
45:14
I have met Sandman but do
45:16
not know Sandman. In
45:18
all honesty I was in the locker
45:21
room with him a few
45:23
times when he worked for Dennis Corluso in the
45:25
early 90s but when he was still
45:27
with the surfboard and then I've
45:29
been in a couple of the same places but
45:31
we've never sat down
45:33
and had any substantial
45:36
conversation and I
45:40
obviously I would think it would be a secret
45:42
no one I've never been a fan of his
45:45
work because it was what it was.
45:48
I don't like that
45:51
style of matches in general
45:53
and I'm not gonna come out here
45:55
and fucking nag it all this motherfucker because
45:57
I'm not mad at him personally or anything.
46:01
But I think this
46:03
episode kind of illustrated
46:05
what I
46:08
didn't like about ECW and what
46:10
I thought was wrong with ECW.
46:14
And not only from a business perspective
46:16
of what they were showing the fans
46:18
and the product that
46:21
they were presenting, but
46:23
the fun, what do the kids call it? The culture?
46:27
The operation of the business and
46:29
what was allowed, what was tolerated,
46:31
what was encouraged, what was that
46:33
then unfortunately
46:36
non-creative copycat
46:38
weak-minded people would simulate
46:40
and inseminate and copycat
46:43
and karaoke
46:45
and tribute act to death to
46:48
this day. And
46:51
I know a lot
46:53
of people are going, oh Paul presented, I'm
46:55
not saying Paulie in the genius, look at
46:58
that ragtag bunch of misfits that he mostly
47:00
had to work with and that he made
47:02
that much noise and didn't end
47:04
up more broke at the
47:06
end in bankruptcy court. It was amazing. And
47:08
I've always said Paul's a genius, had
47:11
creative, getting most out of the least
47:13
verbal fucking, he's
47:16
the fucking promo god right now.
47:20
But especially at that point in time
47:23
when he was that much younger, he had
47:25
no fucking restraint or
47:27
patience. It's why complete
47:32
dipshits like Russo who couldn't
47:35
swing on Paul's fucking
47:37
chin or either one
47:39
of them, but copied
47:41
his shit because it appealed to
47:45
shallow-minded people who wanted to see folks
47:47
bashing each other with shopping carts. Brian
47:51
is that an oversimplification or is that
47:53
kind of actually what
47:55
happened? Every mark that got into
47:57
business after Paul created this phenomenon
48:01
for basically a specific Northeastern
48:03
market, they
48:05
tried to copy it without understanding that
48:07
they weren't as good as he was
48:09
and it didn't even work
48:11
for him in the long run and
48:13
they couldn't fucking get off of it. Am
48:16
I overstating that?
48:18
Well for the record you've
48:21
never been a big ECW fan and I say that
48:23
as the person who in the 90s was sending you
48:25
ECW tapes. You were never a big ECW fan but
48:27
you always tried to keep up with it so you
48:29
understood what was happening. And you
48:32
know early on it
48:34
was a mesh of a lot of different
48:36
stuff. You
48:38
had Terry Funk, you had Shane Douglas
48:40
who when he first started doing those
48:43
promos people talked about him, you had Sabu
48:45
who was the Superman of
48:47
the Indies at that time. And
48:49
then you had different people that would come in for shows
48:51
but Paul started filling in with
48:54
the locals and the guys that he previously worked with
48:56
when he briefly worked with
48:58
the Sabaldys like Tommy Dreamer, like
49:00
Taz started getting these guys in
49:02
there figuring out a way to get
49:04
them who will all be local. Localish,
49:07
I mean if you're from New York I'm considering that
49:09
local for Philadelphia. Cheaper than
49:12
other talent. I mean ECW at that time under
49:14
Eddie Gilbert right before Paul took over,
49:16
they were using nothing against
49:19
these wrestlers but just if you try to think about
49:21
how much Todd Gordon was
49:23
spending, if it's Tommy
49:25
Dreamer, the Sandman, Taz,
49:27
Tommy Cairo, guys like that or
49:30
Don Morocco, Tito Santana, Jimmy
49:34
Snooka even. Guys that are gonna work a
49:36
half to 25% as hard
49:38
for twice as much plus a plane ticket.
49:41
Plus a plane ticket. And
49:43
I'm not gonna get into the quality of the work but it
49:46
was definitely time to do something different and the
49:48
Sandman was there, the surfer things lame and
49:51
he was really the first one. Him and
49:53
Public Enemy I would say were the first
49:55
two things under Paul Heyman that really took,
49:57
that were his creations. And
50:00
see, that's the thing is that
50:03
people who ECW
50:05
obviously still has its fans and I'm
50:07
not saying that all of it was
50:09
bad and I'm saying that Paul did
50:11
most of it better than anybody else
50:14
could have. What I am
50:16
saying is that while the people
50:18
who really want to defend it will
50:20
pull, well, Eddie Guerrero and Ray Mysterio
50:22
and Chris Benoit and Dean Malenkey, yes,
50:24
those were great
50:26
talents and he brought those guys and
50:28
exposed them to the modern audience or
50:32
to the United States audience. And
50:35
he used Terry Funk exceptionally
50:38
well and understood how to make
50:40
him a legend and his
50:43
work with that was impeccable. But
50:46
the problem is that
50:49
dim-witted dipshits superficial takeaway
50:51
from this one-of-a-kind
50:55
promotion that couldn't have worked
50:57
at that time anywhere else
50:59
but Philadelphia, New York, the
51:01
Northeast and actually
51:03
couldn't work anywhere on a mainstream
51:06
basis. The
51:09
takeaway from all of those people
51:11
is furniture and chairs and violence
51:13
and blood and barbed wire and
51:15
broken glass and set shit on
51:18
fire and cussing and pile-driving
51:20
women. Yeah, it was the stuff that you would
51:22
never have seen on any other wrestling show ever.
51:24
If you were trying to sell ECW to someone,
51:26
you're not going to show them respectfully. You're probably
51:28
not going to show them a Terry Funk match
51:31
with Shane Douglas. You're probably going to show them
51:33
a brawl around the arena with
51:35
tables and chairs and all sorts of stuff.
51:37
They're probably going to taboo to breaking tables.
51:40
Yes, and that's
51:42
why they couldn't get it on TV because
51:44
the TV stations didn't want that shit because
51:47
it was not only low-budget but it was
51:49
fucking iffy as far as are we going
51:51
to get complaints or in trouble. That's why
51:54
they were on sports channel Philadelphia or whatever
51:56
the fuck. What
51:58
Paul was doing was He
52:01
was, yes, it was an
52:03
underground thing and the grunge and the blah, blah,
52:05
blah. And
52:08
you got to admit, Paul, 30 years ago, it
52:10
was a little bit more excitable
52:13
and less reliable
52:15
in terms of his scheduling and where he was
52:18
going to be at what time and when than
52:21
he is now. But
52:23
he was trying to smoke and mirror the
52:26
thing until or if he could get either
52:28
the big pay-per-view deal that they would take
52:30
off from or whatever he was thinking. But
52:34
that's why he was paying six figures
52:36
to wrestlers when his
52:38
gate receipts for goddamn the
52:41
month were six figures. But
52:46
the point is, getting back to
52:48
the point I was trying to
52:50
make that Sandman's dark side of the ring drove
52:52
home was that
52:55
that's what everybody's taken away from when they chant
52:57
the ACW. It's because of tables, it's because of
53:00
furniture, it's because of all that shit. And
53:03
the people who were
53:07
fans of that type of thing in the 90s are
53:10
unfortunately the ones
53:14
that became wrestlers 10 and 15 years
53:16
later and think that
53:18
that's what the business has to have, which is
53:21
why we've never been able to fucking get rid
53:23
of it. And
53:25
I don't know now if we ever can get rid of
53:27
it and it will never
53:29
mean anything ever again but
53:32
at the same time it won't go away. And
53:36
go ahead. You know another thing too is
53:38
Paul Heyman, I'm not taking anything away from
53:40
him being a wrestling genius on multiple levels
53:42
he is. But
53:45
specifically during that period
53:47
with ECW, he had
53:49
revolutionary ideas, not
53:52
necessarily revolutionary arcs with conclusions.
53:56
And I think he's much
53:59
more of a genius now with what he's
54:02
doing than he was
54:04
then with ECW and that's not to take
54:06
away from again revolutionary. Well yeah
54:08
but it was 30 years ago and he's 30 years we
54:10
were all smarter now. I don't know
54:12
about you. Paul had great ideas things that people
54:14
would talk about but there was never like an
54:16
ending there was never anything that was a reasonable
54:19
conclusion to anything.
54:21
Well plus the thing is
54:23
with planning and or execute
54:27
it was all in his head
54:30
and he still did this 20 years
54:33
ago with with OVW when they banished
54:35
him and sent him down here after they banished me because
54:38
I wanted to be here so they didn't want me to
54:40
be and he didn't want to be here so they were
54:42
trying to run him off. But
54:44
he'd drive Danny Davis crazy because he'd just
54:47
come in with a
54:49
sheet with a list of the fucking matches. He
54:51
said we'll just shoot everything and we'll fucking put it
54:53
together like he used to with ECW and
54:56
he said motherfucker number
54:58
one we don't have that kind of fucking equipment number
55:00
two I'm not gonna stay here fucking seven o'clock. He
55:02
was Danny Davis was staying till seven
55:04
o'clock in the morning when I was booking we had
55:06
a finished TV show at 10.45 p.m. so there was
55:11
no prep if he had a good idea oh
55:13
yeah do that but there was no planning of
55:15
it so there was no paperwork
55:18
and there was no plan of where to
55:20
go from there and the dates of when
55:22
to meet such and such milestones and whatever.
55:26
But I guess that's the thing is that in
55:29
trying to make this underground
55:31
counterculture thing that could never
55:33
be on mainstream TV then
55:36
what you did was you inspired a bunch
55:38
of what Paul did was
55:41
inspire a bunch of mark-minded dumb
55:43
fucks whether wrestlers or potential bookers
55:45
writers whatever with
55:47
half or less of his ability to think
55:50
that well we'll just dumb this down and clean it
55:52
up and put it on national TV which is where
55:55
we got the
55:57
sanitized and homogenized WWF style
56:01
hardcore. And
56:03
ECW fans didn't like that because they didn't
56:05
go far enough, but it ruined the WWF
56:07
fans' expectations because now they think you got
56:10
to break a table in every big fucking
56:12
match. So
56:14
it didn't... It
56:16
was something that because with the
56:18
stars and personalities involved in the bigger
56:20
companies, yes, there
56:22
was some... The
56:25
taz's and the talent
56:28
that could legitimately
56:30
go somewhere else and did,
56:34
they were primarily the wrestling guys.
56:37
Sandman, the WWF
56:40
never wanted him except for the reunion
56:42
and he didn't fit there anyway because
56:44
that's another thing that this dark side
56:47
made me kind
56:49
of squeamish about is it
56:52
presented the idea that before
56:54
with Sherry, yes, she
56:56
was on pain
56:58
medication and had her demons
57:00
and everybody else had their demons, but they
57:02
were stars, they were on national television, they
57:04
made money at one point, whatever they did
57:06
with it up to them, they were someone.
57:09
Here you've got a guy that the whole
57:12
show was basically, well,
57:14
this fucking drunk guy that wasn't very responsible
57:16
in his private life decided he wanted to
57:18
be a wrestler and he ran
57:20
into a goddamn promotion where the promoter would let
57:23
him do any fucking thing he wanted and
57:26
that's how he got over, but he
57:28
could never work anywhere else because he
57:30
wasn't really a fucking wrestler, he had a great entrance
57:32
and he bashed people over the head with shit while
57:34
he was drunk. Was
57:37
that the summation of this goddamn show
57:39
in an hour? In
57:42
not as many words, but yes. Yes,
57:46
and that, you
57:48
know, and I'm just
57:51
saying, doesn't that make the wrestling business
57:53
look kind of sketchy?
57:57
And Todd Gordon, what is dark side of
57:59
the ring? if there was ever a show
58:01
to make wrestling look sketchy. Well, no, but
58:03
I mean the whole business or at least
58:06
these people's business, that's what the whole ECW
58:08
thing and the culture that it fostered or
58:10
the backstage thing. They,
58:12
and Paul was not taking any of them
58:14
bumps through the fucking furniture. I've
58:17
taken a few bumps through fucking furniture,
58:21
but only when necessary
58:24
and not off the fucking roof. And
58:28
I tried to never ask anybody to do anything
58:30
that I wouldn't do or couldn't do if I
58:32
could do it. I can't do a standing drop
58:34
kick, blow me. But
58:38
he was telling these guys to fucking do
58:40
this shit and the scaffolds and the barbed
58:43
wire and the hanging shit and
58:45
everybody in the locker rooms on paint
58:47
pills, everybody's on fucking drugs and
58:50
Todd Gordon, the money
58:52
man, the fat jowled senior citizen that
58:54
he is now said,
58:57
if you passed a piss test, you
58:59
couldn't work for us because
59:01
we were all doing it. I
59:05
didn't think that ECW was particularly that good
59:07
for the fucking appearance of goddamn wrestling when
59:09
it was happening because all this shit was
59:12
happening. And in
59:14
hindsight, with all the people
59:16
that have had body parts replaced or need
59:20
something replaced or
59:23
they've had substance abuse issues
59:25
of some kind or their careers
59:27
came to premature
59:29
ends or they faded
59:33
into obscurity because of cognitive issues
59:35
or combinations of all those things,
59:39
was it fucking worth it for that? What
59:42
the fuck? Everybody, when Smoky
59:44
Bad Wrestling went out of business, I paid
59:46
the boys, stiffed a
59:49
couple of radio stations and a TV
59:51
station, and nobody had
59:53
brain damage or a goddamn substance abuse
59:55
issue that they didn't have when they
59:57
started working there. That's
1:00:01
all I'm saying. That
1:00:04
is what you're saying. This is the review of the
1:00:06
same. Any thoughts on his career or any of the
1:00:08
interviews? This is it, yes. No, that's my thoughts on
1:00:10
all. I'm not anything personal
1:00:12
with this guy, but he's
1:00:14
fucking irresponsible, fucking drunk that got into wrestling
1:00:16
business. And Paul said, I don't give a
1:00:18
fuck what you do. And
1:00:21
he gets over with a great entrance with music that
1:00:23
they didn't pay for by going
1:00:26
out there drunk and bashing himself over
1:00:29
the head with a beer
1:00:31
can until he bleeds and then having
1:00:33
garbage indie matches, bashing people with shit
1:00:35
and getting bashed with shit. There's
1:00:37
no talent to that and that's what so
1:00:40
many of these fucking dipshits have
1:00:42
goddamn taken away
1:00:44
that think that that's what wrestling is,
1:00:46
that it insults me on a
1:00:49
deeply personal basis. So
1:00:52
that's my view on the
1:00:54
Sandman's career. Wrestling is
1:00:56
bad taste and good taste and ECW
1:00:58
was bad taste and bad taste. Remember
1:01:02
you might have seen some of the OVW
1:01:04
shows for about six months. I had, I
1:01:06
think between 2000 and 2001, I had an OVW
1:01:08
hardcore title because everybody else was
1:01:13
doing it. All right.
1:01:17
So we'll do the cause Flash Flanagan. He
1:01:20
was wonderful at those kind of matches and I
1:01:22
was trying to give him
1:01:24
something at first and then later I'll BJ paint
1:01:26
a few guys. But
1:01:30
to be honest, yes, you could flip the table
1:01:32
in and nobody was
1:01:34
going crazy with barbed wire and it was
1:01:37
still Kentucky with the commission. We couldn't do
1:01:40
blood but
1:01:42
we'd break a table every once in a while or
1:01:44
the guy would get hit with a chair, we'd do
1:01:46
the garbage can or whatever. And
1:01:49
they could do the fire extinguisher spot.
1:01:53
But then after a while I was looking
1:01:55
at the TV one night and there's garbage laying
1:01:58
in the ring like on every other one.
1:02:00
of these horseshit wrestling shows
1:02:02
that were on national
1:02:05
television that I was trying to not
1:02:07
be like. And I say,
1:02:09
you know what? I don't want to see that picture of
1:02:11
a bunch of garbage laying in my fucking ring on my
1:02:13
TV. And I sent
1:02:15
out a memo to the boys saying we're
1:02:17
abolishing the hardcore title because I don't
1:02:19
want to see a bunch of garbage laying in my ring on
1:02:22
my TV. So
1:02:24
everybody's got to go back to learning how to not
1:02:26
break the rules. And
1:02:29
every once in a while we'd still book a gimmick
1:02:31
match or whatever the fuck, but it
1:02:33
just, it's too much. It's too much.
1:02:38
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1:02:41
too much for me. Maybe I should start a store.
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You know, Brian, that is very true
1:02:47
because if some of these hardcore wrestlers
1:02:49
had just thought ahead, instead of damaging
1:02:52
their skeletal structure and destroying their
1:02:54
brain cells and breaking their body
1:02:56
parts until they look like slinkies
1:02:58
walking down the fucking stairs. Instead,
1:03:01
they should have opened a store. They should have
1:03:03
opened an online store. As a matter of fact,
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1:06:58
a month trial, a dollar a month. That's, that's
1:07:01
3.3 cents
1:07:03
per day, except in February where it'd be
1:07:05
a little more expensive, but then again, I still
1:07:08
don't think it's going to break your fucking
1:07:10
budget. So once you're going to make
1:07:12
a ton of money, you get, you're
1:07:14
going to make, if you are going
1:07:16
to make more money than people selling pussy
1:07:18
on a troop train. If you go right
1:07:20
now to shopify.com, they're going to make you
1:07:23
big bucks.
1:07:28
That's right. Big bucks from
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Shopify. And those
1:07:32
aren't the counterfeit bucks either. All
1:07:35
right. Well, Brian, before we go any further, I
1:07:37
know that you have been, uh, you've
1:07:40
been on the social media and
1:07:42
antisocial media beat for Arcadian
1:07:45
Vanguard and the programs here, we we've
1:07:47
got. Wrestling related
1:07:49
personalities in the news, giving
1:07:51
their views. Uh,
1:07:53
making some stirring comments about
1:07:56
things. Uh, let's, let's gather
1:07:58
those up into one segment here. Well,
1:08:01
let's talk about some of the things happening on social
1:08:03
media because a lot of the listeners have been sending
1:08:05
these in and of course trying to post them on
1:08:08
the official Cult of Cornette Facebook page. If
1:08:10
we don't approve your post but
1:08:12
the post is up that
1:08:15
you wanted to talk about, don't
1:08:17
argue about why we didn't approve your posts
1:08:20
or I was there first. We approved
1:08:22
one that covered the issue so that
1:08:24
the conversation could start. Talk about
1:08:27
it. Start
1:08:29
again, right? It's not about you. That's
1:08:31
the point. But now a
1:08:33
lot of people are going to say, when are we going
1:08:35
to get into the fucking Facebook page? We're still doing that,
1:08:37
right? Oh yeah, a lot more people have gotten in. We're
1:08:40
now at 13.6 thousand members and... How
1:08:44
many is waiting? Several tens of thousands.
1:08:49
Well, yeah. I mean, but
1:08:51
we're going through it and today could
1:08:53
be your lucky day. Jim, on
1:08:56
social media things are happening. People are letting us
1:08:58
know about it. I guess
1:09:00
they're doing a match between Seamus and Gunther
1:09:03
coming up. Have you seen this? I'm
1:09:05
looking forward to that. That should be
1:09:07
a banger or a burger or a
1:09:09
burgermeister. See, that way
1:09:12
Seamus is kind of meeting in the middle there
1:09:14
because he was known for the bangers and then
1:09:16
Drew said he was known for burgers and now
1:09:19
he's fighting a man who in another
1:09:21
life could have been a burgermeister. Well
1:09:24
Seamus apparently tweeted out and then immediately,
1:09:26
or I say immediately 10 minutes later
1:09:28
or so deleted it. Uh-oh.
1:09:31
1247 PM on the 5th of May, 2024. Sounds
1:09:34
classy when you say it like that. The 5th of May, 2024.
1:09:39
Seamus tweeted out at WWE Seamus,
1:09:42
Hmmmm. An
1:09:45
Austrian man with a funny
1:09:47
haircut has a thing from
1:09:49
military style coats proclaims
1:09:51
superiority over others, hangs
1:09:54
out with Germans, and
1:09:56
betrays his Italian ally. with
1:10:01
an emoji that's kind of disgruntled with one eyebrow up.
1:10:03
I don't know what you call it here, but... Now,
1:10:07
the real Gunther has not commented, although
1:10:09
a fake Gunther Twitter account did comment.
1:10:11
Wait a minute, there's a fake Gunther?
1:10:13
Well, apparently, because a lot of people
1:10:15
thought it was real, not realizing... I
1:10:18
might have been going to say the name, but it's
1:10:20
not the real Gunther, but they replied, what the fuck?
1:10:27
So, an interesting tweet
1:10:29
that was up and then down from Seamus,
1:10:31
what are your thoughts? Yeah, well, I mean,
1:10:34
where is he? He's from... is he Scottish
1:10:36
or is he Irish? Irish.
1:10:39
He's Irish. Well, they've had their
1:10:42
own... I think, right? ...shet-toes and
1:10:44
conflicts or whatever over there, he's
1:10:46
not that old. He...
1:10:49
so maybe he doesn't realize that, well, you
1:10:51
know, it's probably... I don't
1:10:53
know, is it different when you compare people
1:10:55
to Hitler in foreign countries than the
1:10:58
way it's taken over here in
1:11:00
the United States or potentially in Germany? Well,
1:11:03
let's not forget that when Gunther was first called
1:11:05
up, when Walter was first called up to the
1:11:07
main roster, the name
1:11:09
Gunther was only part of it.
1:11:11
He was given the name of an actual U-boat
1:11:14
captain or something. Yeah, well, they gave him... there
1:11:17
was plausible deniability. They gave him
1:11:19
a real German sounding name and
1:11:21
then some intrepid researcher
1:11:23
found out that was the name
1:11:25
of a legitimate real-life German Nazi
1:11:27
U-boat captain, but with Vince, you
1:11:29
never know. They gave him some
1:11:31
name and then they found out
1:11:33
by coincidence, it was Vince's favorite
1:11:35
Nazi. Yeah, that's the thing with
1:11:38
Vince, you never know, depending
1:11:42
on what he's been watching on television. So,
1:11:46
but again, I'm just... I'm trying to give
1:11:48
this guy an old Seamus. I'm trying to
1:11:50
give him an out. Here is it. Did
1:11:53
Hitler not have as much heat
1:11:56
in fucking Ireland? I don't know,
1:11:58
but otherwise that's probably... something
1:12:00
the office said, yeah, don't do this
1:12:02
anymore and take that down right now,
1:12:04
please. See, I like the fake Gunther's
1:12:07
reply because I think that's what the real
1:12:09
Gunther would probably say to him. What the
1:12:11
fuck? No, he would have said, what the
1:12:14
ficca? What the ficca?
1:12:16
You're not helping either. You see, you're not helping at
1:12:18
all either. Or is it fic-ish? I'm
1:12:21
saying, is it German I have an
1:12:23
affinity for? Are we going
1:12:26
to see that other guy from Imperium again,
1:12:28
you think? I forget what you, Vinci? I
1:12:30
guess the Italian one. Leonardo da Vinci. Um,
1:12:33
I mean, I think he still works there.
1:12:35
I would assume that he'll be doing a
1:12:37
plethora of jobs on the way out. Oh,
1:12:40
he's never done a promo. He just stands there when the
1:12:42
other guy does some promo. Now he's on his own. Why
1:12:46
was the Italian guy in the German
1:12:49
group anyway? Couldn't
1:12:51
they have given him a German name and
1:12:53
say you're German now. I can be German.
1:12:55
I can be Russian. I can, whatever. I
1:12:58
don't know. Maybe Seamus has a point. Is that what you're saying?
1:13:01
Well, if he combs his hair right,
1:13:03
nobody will notice, but I'm
1:13:06
just saying that he was
1:13:08
probably ill-advised to tweet that.
1:13:11
But at the same time, you know,
1:13:13
you've got the guy named Vinci and the crew
1:13:16
with the Germans, you would have to think it's
1:13:18
sooner or later he was going to get turned
1:13:20
on. Well, there it is.
1:13:22
That's the social media activity of social
1:13:25
studies major Seamus. And
1:13:28
then Fay Gunther who says, what
1:13:30
the fuck? Jim,
1:13:33
also on social media right
1:13:35
now, well, this is an interesting one. Remember
1:13:38
Harley Cameron from AEW, the
1:13:40
blonde who was, well, I
1:13:42
dropped my pen and I don't know
1:13:45
why, the blonde who was a member of
1:13:47
QTV. Oh, the
1:13:49
QTV girl that did nothing and stood
1:13:51
around a lot. Well, she posted
1:13:53
a photo on social media, her in
1:13:56
a very revealing, outfit,
1:13:58
a very short. tank top
1:14:02
Lots of under boob What
1:14:04
a way to admit it now Is
1:14:07
that is that something you can
1:14:09
just say just right here on the on
1:14:11
the broadcast without being censored under boob? Isn't
1:14:13
that suggestive if she can show the under
1:14:16
boob I could say the under boob, but
1:14:18
she tweeted out thinking about How
1:14:21
I'm actually the better
1:14:23
representation for hashtag hot
1:14:26
girl grasps Simp
1:14:28
for me Mariah May and
1:14:31
a few emojis there. So she sent this to
1:14:33
Mariah. Okay Maybe
1:14:36
you're gonna have to read it slower Maybe
1:14:39
I'd need to be younger What
1:14:42
the flying french-frad titty fuck under
1:14:44
boob is she talking about? Thinking
1:14:48
about how I'm the better representation for hot
1:14:50
girl grasps. That's a hashtag. I guess maybe
1:14:52
that was a movement for
1:14:56
Hot girls who grapple. I'm not
1:14:58
exactly sure. Hey, my first guess
1:15:00
simp for me at
1:15:04
Mariah May so she wants either
1:15:07
she tagging Mariah made a simp for her or
1:15:11
She's telling the fans to simp for her once Mariah
1:15:13
made a C or she's a fan of
1:15:15
Mike Simp or Vivi I don't I don't know Well,
1:15:18
or where she got sympathy One way
1:15:21
or the other for the devil. Um, well
1:15:24
Mariah May responded by retweeting Mariah actually understood
1:15:26
that enough to where she could come back
1:15:28
at it Mariah May responded
1:15:30
to the tweet with the image saying
1:15:32
that Harley Cameron is the better representation
1:15:34
for hot girl grasps You
1:15:39
your look is more hot girl So
1:15:53
wrestling's on fire on social media Jimmy
1:15:55
asking people ever get tired of wrestling
1:15:57
with this kind of activity on social
1:16:01
So,
1:16:05
Maria May wouldn't have been playing around
1:16:08
there with that. So are we to
1:16:10
be led to believe that it is
1:16:12
a well-known situation
1:16:15
in the locker room that if the
1:16:17
Lincoln Tunnel has ever been closed for
1:16:19
repairs, they can use Harley as a
1:16:22
replacement? I
1:16:24
don't know. I mean, this is a very interesting way
1:16:26
to build up to what
1:16:29
may one day be quarter
1:16:31
four on Rampage. I'm not
1:16:34
exactly sure what they're working for here.
1:16:37
They can aspire to be the
1:16:41
main event on
1:16:43
Friday Night Rampage. Well, they're
1:16:46
gaping and they're grappling over there in
1:16:48
the AEW women's roster. What else is
1:16:51
going on? Well,
1:16:53
Jim, there's a few other things going on.
1:16:55
Also on social media, we heard
1:16:57
from Powerhouse Hobbs. It
1:17:00
says here, the Monstar Powerhouse
1:17:03
Hobbs at
1:17:05
True Willy Hobbs on Twitter. Okay,
1:17:08
there's a lot of branding going on
1:17:10
all over the place. We
1:17:14
like Powerhouse Hobbs. Yes. That
1:17:17
sounds good. What about the Monstar
1:17:19
instead of Monster Monstar? I'm not
1:17:21
sure about the Monstar Powerhouse Hobbs
1:17:23
because Powerhouse is already kind of
1:17:25
a nom de plume. So
1:17:28
one would think that that might be putting a hat
1:17:30
on a hat and then True Willy
1:17:32
Hobbs. Even Willy is
1:17:34
named as Willy Powerhouse Hobbs but why does
1:17:36
True have to be in there? He's
1:17:40
true to himself. That's all it counts. A
1:17:42
lot of branding. He likes Spandau Ballet maybe.
1:17:45
Well, this thing is true. Alright,
1:17:48
well here's what he tweeted out. Not
1:17:52
sure what to say. Injuries
1:17:54
happen and we deal with them. We
1:17:57
recalibrate. We rebuild.
1:18:00
We reinvent. The
1:18:02
real test is to come back. I've
1:18:05
been told I'll come back like nothing ever
1:18:07
happened. So? Why
1:18:10
do I feel so angry right now? Why
1:18:13
do I feel so disappointed? Because
1:18:15
I had to hurt myself in
1:18:17
a match with a fucking balding
1:18:19
buggy whip-armed sunken-chested drunken white boy
1:18:21
that couldn't fucking shine my shoes.
1:18:24
It's because that's all bullshit. Nobody
1:18:27
comes back the same after any
1:18:29
injury. The only choice is
1:18:32
to come back better. As
1:18:34
I sit here on this island of darkness, I
1:18:37
have thousands of questions running through
1:18:39
my mind non-stop. The
1:18:42
doctors tell me not to worry. Just
1:18:44
heal and recover. They
1:18:48
have no idea that this is nothing
1:18:50
compared to the hell I've been through.
1:18:53
Just rest assured, when I come
1:18:56
back, that I'm bringing
1:18:58
hell with me. Signed,
1:19:01
Will Hobson. Well,
1:19:03
where in the hell? He's got another name! That's the
1:19:05
fourth name. That's the fourth
1:19:08
name! God damn it! Well,
1:19:13
you can call him Will, or you can
1:19:15
call him Bill. Okay.
1:19:20
I feel so bad and now he's hurt. I
1:19:22
mean, it's not like we're going to be
1:19:24
deprived of a lot of great
1:19:27
powerhouse Hobbs matches because we never get
1:19:29
seen on TV. And
1:19:33
when we do, he's getting the shit kicked out
1:19:35
of him most of the time, and he's one
1:19:37
of the flunkies in his group instead
1:19:40
of being featured. But I hate that
1:19:42
he's hurt, but that's
1:19:44
dramatic, but he's psyching himself up.
1:19:49
But remember back in the days when
1:19:51
a guy got hurt and he just went
1:19:53
home and had his surgery or recuperated and
1:19:56
got better and then came back and got
1:19:58
a big introduction? Instead
1:20:00
of the, the Sayonara scenario where
1:20:02
you've got to make a statement
1:20:04
about, well, I'm
1:20:07
hurt. I don't know. What do
1:20:09
you think? Well, I guess that's the question is, do
1:20:12
you have an issue with him doing it again, different
1:20:14
times, different technology and everything, but also the fact that
1:20:16
other people do it, does that take away? I
1:20:19
guess it doesn't, I mean, it's this real emotion obviously
1:20:21
coming through here. We signed his real name. He had
1:20:24
four options. Again,
1:20:30
you know, it depends
1:20:33
on, it depends
1:20:36
on what your spot is, how you're being
1:20:38
used. He probably wanted to say
1:20:41
something because we don't hear anything about it
1:20:43
on TV. Traditionally in not
1:20:46
only the territories, but in WWF
1:20:48
and WWE and modern times, if
1:20:51
somebody that was being featured on
1:20:54
a regular basis got hurt, you'd hear about it,
1:20:56
you would be informed of it on the television
1:20:58
program. Of course,
1:21:00
since nobody has regularly featured in AEW
1:21:02
and so many people get hurt, they'd
1:21:05
have to have a goddamn, you
1:21:07
know, 10 minute segment in the middle of the
1:21:09
show to bring everybody up to date. But so
1:21:12
I guess they have to make their statements now.
1:21:14
But if I
1:21:17
was a talent when wrestling made sense
1:21:20
and I got hurt before
1:21:23
I said anything in public, I would talk to
1:21:25
the Booker and find out, Hey, you're going to
1:21:27
bring me back when I'm ready. B,
1:21:31
so and so I may have been hurt in a match
1:21:33
with them, but who do you want to blame? Do we
1:21:35
need to do an angle with somebody I might be able
1:21:37
to draw money better with and blame them, that type of
1:21:39
thing. And then,
1:21:41
and then go from there and know what to say and
1:21:43
know what we're going to do when we come back. But
1:21:45
that doesn't happen
1:21:47
these days because nobody
1:21:50
thinks that far ahead. Nobody cares
1:21:53
whether they can draw money with a different person
1:21:55
because they're all getting paid guaranteed money and big.
1:22:00
biggest problem of all is,
1:22:04
you know, nobody's going to be able to
1:22:06
figure out by the time you come back
1:22:08
and you pass all the protocols and all
1:22:10
the medical examinations and everything, it's twice as
1:22:12
long as an injury recuperation used to be,
1:22:15
unless they're rushing you back for the main event
1:22:17
at WrestleMania. So
1:22:20
it's one of those things. Well,
1:22:23
get well soon, Powerhouse Hobbs,
1:22:25
Will Hobbs, Monstar. He's
1:22:28
true. Will Hobson, true Willy
1:22:30
Hobbs. We'll see what he comes
1:22:32
back as and where. Maybe they'll be on true TV
1:22:35
when he comes back. You never know. Jim,
1:22:37
a few more things
1:22:39
happening. Some WWE comings and
1:22:41
goings that are being reported on social
1:22:44
media. This
1:22:46
one's getting a lot of buzz to the point
1:22:48
where Kevin Steen is trending. Please,
1:22:51
they let him go? WrestleTalk
1:22:54
has a tweet here. Kevin Owens has revealed
1:22:56
he has nine months left on his current
1:22:58
WWE contract, but has no
1:23:01
plans to leave WWE on his
1:23:03
own accord. That's a quote. Here's
1:23:05
another one. This has been
1:23:08
my home for 10 years and it's
1:23:10
beyond the locker room. There are
1:23:12
some very, very, very special people that
1:23:14
work behind the scenes that I've
1:23:16
become close with and I really
1:23:19
can't imagine not seeing them as
1:23:21
part of my life. And
1:23:23
I really can't imagine anywhere else in the world
1:23:25
it would pay me even a remotely fraction of
1:23:27
the money that they're paying me right now besides
1:23:29
AEW where in I might be able to play
1:23:32
with more of my friends, but I would be
1:23:34
at the mercy of the fucking lunatic running the
1:23:36
asylum. Well, it's interesting too.
1:23:38
The first quote was no plans to leave
1:23:40
on my own accord. Well,
1:23:43
that's just a kind of
1:23:45
a flowery way of saying, ah, they're going to
1:23:47
have to run me off or kick me out
1:23:49
or whatever. No, it's not like I
1:23:52
don't think they are trying to run
1:23:54
him off nor do I think that he would
1:23:56
think about leaving to go anywhere with the position
1:23:58
he's got in the. biggest company in the
1:24:00
world. But I think that's
1:24:03
just a matter of semantics. I don't think
1:24:05
he's trying to insinuate there's some
1:24:07
kind of conspiracy theory to get him out
1:24:09
of there. And the other thing too, is
1:24:11
if he was going to jump to AEW, he would have done it
1:24:13
a couple of years ago when Vince had to resign him and
1:24:16
things were a lot more rosy in AEW
1:24:18
than they are now. Yeah. And
1:24:20
things were a lot more fucking
1:24:23
prolapsed in the WWE than they are
1:24:25
now. If he,
1:24:27
if he resigned to work for Vince McMahon,
1:24:29
he'll, I'm sure be happy to work for
1:24:32
the variety of people that are there now.
1:24:36
Jim, this next one is getting a lot
1:24:38
of buzz and specifically listeners are asking for
1:24:40
your thoughts on this because
1:24:43
of the connection. I have an article
1:24:45
here in the New York Post by Ryan
1:24:47
Glassbeagle. Jerry,
1:24:50
the King Lawler out as
1:24:53
WWE commentator after three decades.
1:24:56
Jerry, the King Lawler's reign
1:24:59
has come to an end.
1:25:01
What the fuck? The Post has
1:25:03
confirmed that WWE did not renew
1:25:05
Lawler's broadcasting contract. However,
1:25:09
contrary to the tenor of reports
1:25:11
in the wrestling space, a
1:25:14
source said that Lawler 74
1:25:17
remains on a legends deal with the
1:25:19
company. Lawler first
1:25:21
joined WWE as a color commentator on superstars
1:25:24
in 1992 and would
1:25:27
mostly remain in that role working
1:25:30
the flagship shows, Raw or Smackdown, as
1:25:32
well as pay-per-views until 2016. His
1:25:37
partnership with play-by-play broadcaster Jim Ross
1:25:40
during the fabled Attitude Era
1:25:43
formed the soundtrack of countless memorable
1:25:45
moments in pro-wrestling
1:25:47
lore. It
1:25:50
goes into a little bit of his medical history there, but
1:25:52
let me stop there, get your thoughts on this, Jim. Well,
1:25:55
it's insane that, like
1:25:58
the end of an era. I
1:26:01
love Lawler. I was a Lawler fan
1:26:03
from the time I started watching wrestling. I'm
1:26:05
not saying anything detrimental
1:26:07
to him, but
1:26:09
why are people thinking this is the
1:26:11
end? How long has it been since
1:26:13
he regularly did color commentary on any
1:26:16
of the major programs to begin with?
1:26:20
Do you know off the top of your head? It says here
1:26:22
in the article he's away from the company for about nine months
1:26:24
in 2001, of course, but he
1:26:26
also returned for a stretch between
1:26:28
2019 and 2020, right before the pandemic. Yeah,
1:26:34
so that's been four years and we're
1:26:36
talking about a 74-year-old man and I'm
1:26:39
62, so I'm
1:26:41
not like being ageist. He's
1:26:44
had a stroke. He's
1:26:47
recovering from that
1:26:49
and I read somewhere he
1:26:51
just had I think a knee replacement. So
1:26:54
the point is he's still under a
1:26:56
legends deal because he is a legend
1:26:59
and also you're not going to see Jerry Lawler
1:27:01
on a dark
1:27:03
side of the ring for lack of funds,
1:27:06
for not saving his money. He's got more
1:27:08
money in the federal government. He
1:27:11
enjoys being Jerry Lawler and
1:27:13
being a personality, being a wrestler and being
1:27:16
an artist of whatever, but at
1:27:18
this point, people
1:27:21
are treating it like they've kicked him out
1:27:23
in the street. He has no place to
1:27:25
go and nobody to support him and help
1:27:27
him. What the fuck? He's a
1:27:31
rich man in his middle 70s
1:27:33
who because of his health
1:27:35
has had to slow down. So why would
1:27:38
they resign him to another
1:27:40
announcing deal? And
1:27:43
instead of, okay, Jerry, you're in a
1:27:46
legends deal. They've done DVDs. I'm sure
1:27:48
he'll guest on something.
1:27:52
And he feels like at the time is right. He
1:27:54
was back, I think they're live at least for the
1:27:56
crowd the last time they were in Memphis. they've
1:28:00
not like the new ownership has
1:28:02
not said, well let's get rid of
1:28:04
this motherfucker, kick him out in the street. We
1:28:07
don't care he's got nowhere to go, it's just you're
1:28:09
not renewing a
1:28:11
contract of a band that's as
1:28:14
close to fucking 80 practically as
1:28:16
he is to 70 and probably doesn't have
1:28:18
any plans to do announcing in the near
1:28:20
future. How is that newsworthy?
1:28:27
Well again, people see it as Jerry Law or
1:28:29
fired or something but again he can't
1:28:31
do the modern commentary
1:28:34
style. Most people can't. You have to yell a lot.
1:28:36
He's an older guy, he may not
1:28:38
have the vocal strength that he used
1:28:40
to and if you're not going to use
1:28:42
him in that role then he's not a commentator.
1:28:44
If he's not a commentator doesn't need a
1:28:46
commentator's contract, doesn't mean the relationship ends. A
1:28:50
Legends deal, we hear different things about them. What
1:28:52
would that exactly include? That means
1:28:55
like they would make action figures or t-shirts with
1:28:57
them? Well with some
1:29:00
guys and I don't have one
1:29:02
because I've never
1:29:04
intended to sign one. Remember I've been on that
1:29:07
no contract thing for about the last 10 years.
1:29:09
You would have lost money if you signed one.
1:29:11
Well and that's another thing because if
1:29:13
guys are not set up to
1:29:16
do their own merchandise, exploit their
1:29:18
own intellectual property and
1:29:20
they're retired, the Legends contracts, they
1:29:22
are eligible to get action
1:29:25
figures or have merchandise done or whatever.
1:29:28
With Lawler I would think it might even
1:29:30
be more extensive in terms of appearances
1:29:33
if and when he does
1:29:36
them or feels like it or some
1:29:39
appearances on some of these pregame shows
1:29:42
or whatever or I
1:29:44
don't know. But the
1:29:46
point is it's not like and he's still going
1:29:48
to have whatever royalties he's
1:29:50
been receiving from what he's done in
1:29:52
the past that's been eligible for royalties
1:29:55
for. So it's not like they're just
1:29:57
cutting him off, fired him, kicking him
1:29:59
out. you, we don't want you around anymore.
1:30:02
But ever, there comes a point in everybody's,
1:30:04
this is what I've been talking about with
1:30:07
when I say I'm amazed that Paul Heyman wants
1:30:09
to go to France and fucking Saudi Arabia and
1:30:11
all that shit at his age or anybody my
1:30:13
age wants to go anywhere at
1:30:16
some point, any business
1:30:19
is not going to renew even
1:30:21
their CEO, if
1:30:23
he's fucking 74 and
1:30:27
you know, he's on oatmeal or whatever.
1:30:29
I don't know. So
1:30:31
it's not like that this is a guy who was just
1:30:35
very recently on regularly featured
1:30:37
on television, still intends to
1:30:39
be in the business and on a full
1:30:42
or even part-time basis and needs it as
1:30:45
a form of to make a living. You
1:30:49
know, King deserves put his
1:30:51
feet up at this point and watch the
1:30:53
Browns or whatever. Would you
1:30:55
hear this line in a classic newspaper?
1:30:58
Lawler made his bones as a wrestler
1:31:00
in the Memphis territory. That's
1:31:03
right. That's right out of the
1:31:05
classic 40s sports writer playbook. Well,
1:31:08
that's the comings and goings news or whatever
1:31:10
you want to call that. But Jim, there
1:31:13
are a couple of things here that a lot of
1:31:15
listeners have been sending in both having to deal with
1:31:17
Rick flair. I don't
1:31:19
know how much of this you've seen. I
1:31:23
got up this morning and I've been out
1:31:25
twice before we started recording, but in the
1:31:28
middle of that, I saw that he's had
1:31:30
an issue with pizza people. That's pretty much
1:31:32
what I know so far. Well,
1:31:36
Jim, yesterday, as we are recording May 5th, 2024, 4 43
1:31:38
p.m., Rick Flair tweeted
1:31:41
out every word
1:31:43
beginning with a capitalization.
1:31:46
Is that something you have to do on
1:31:48
purpose to make it do that? Or is
1:31:50
that something that pops up accidentally because it
1:31:53
doesn't make sense that you would do that
1:31:56
on purpose? That is absolutely
1:31:58
not the default. You
1:32:00
have to choose that. See, I don't know how to
1:32:02
text but I wouldn't text like
1:32:04
that. Why is that done? Does
1:32:06
that have some meaning with the young folks?
1:32:08
I'm not sure why it's done and well,
1:32:10
maybe this will explain some of it. Let's
1:32:12
go to this tweet here from Rick Flair
1:32:15
at Rick Flair, N-A-T-R boy
1:32:17
on Twitter. I
1:32:20
spent $1,500 at Paisanos. Wow!
1:32:27
I was at pizza with goddamn
1:32:29
filet mignon topping. How
1:32:31
much pizza? I
1:32:34
eat a lot of pizza. I'd
1:32:38
have spent $1,500 at the pizza place. That's
1:32:42
a shitload of pizza. I
1:32:46
don't know if me, Joey Chestnut
1:32:48
and fucking... You
1:32:51
both could... All three of us could eat
1:32:53
that much pizza. I spent $1,500 at
1:32:56
Paisanos to be
1:32:58
disrespected more than I
1:33:00
ever have in my entire life. Jesus
1:33:04
Christ. After taking 20
1:33:06
pictures with customers and
1:33:08
staff, I was asked to
1:33:11
leave because of an issue I had.
1:33:13
What? Wait, what? Hold
1:33:16
on, wait a minute. 20 people
1:33:18
came up and said, please take your picture with us, please.
1:33:20
And then they... Now please get the fuck out
1:33:22
of here. What? What? What
1:33:26
are you... I
1:33:29
just find this so funny. I was asked to
1:33:32
leave because of an issue I
1:33:34
had with the kitchen manager taking too long
1:33:36
in the bathroom. What? Wait, taking
1:33:38
too long in the bathroom? I was laughing, taking
1:33:41
too long with his order. Taking too
1:33:43
long in the... What is a
1:33:45
one-holer over there at Paisanos? He
1:33:48
couldn't get... Was the kitchen manager? What was
1:33:50
he fucking shooting up in the goddamn stall
1:33:53
and he couldn't get in any bathroom? But
1:33:55
hold on, there's another way to read
1:33:57
that. I was asked to leave because of an issue.
1:34:00
I had with the kitchen manager
1:34:02
taking too long in the bathroom. Maybe
1:34:05
he left out a word or two, it's Twitter, was
1:34:08
Rick taking too long in the bathroom and the
1:34:11
kitchen manager was like, yo, come on already. We're
1:34:13
out of there. It seems like that
1:34:15
the kitchen manager would have access to his own
1:34:18
bathroom that he wouldn't have to go out there
1:34:20
and clog it up where the customers couldn't get
1:34:22
in. So
1:34:24
I don't know if you're correct
1:34:26
there. Well then what's
1:34:29
the kitchen manager coming to get the guy out of
1:34:31
the bathroom for? Come out of
1:34:33
the closet. Why is that the kitchen manager's job?
1:34:35
Wouldn't that be the maitre d' or do they
1:34:37
have a maitre d' at Paisano's? So then Rick
1:34:40
Flair was upset that the kitchen manager was taking
1:34:42
too long in the bathroom. It
1:34:45
sounds like it to me but either way. It
1:34:49
sounds... They'll be finished this? Yeah.
1:34:51
I would highly recommend that anyone who wants
1:34:53
to enjoy a relaxing time in
1:34:56
Gainesville and a nice restaurant to
1:34:58
never visit this place. I
1:35:03
would like to recommend that anyone who
1:35:05
wants to take a relaxing dump in
1:35:08
the Gainesville area, they'll rush you after
1:35:10
you've been in there two minutes. They'll
1:35:12
be shoving toilet paper under the fucking
1:35:14
stall door. So get the
1:35:16
fuck out of here. Well
1:35:19
Jim, we have an article. You
1:35:21
can't take them anywhere. I'm
1:35:24
gonna be spending all this money in a pizza
1:35:26
place. By the way, that's just stupid money in
1:35:28
a pizza place. I've always heard Rick Flair is
1:35:30
loosing his money. Now I get it. He's just
1:35:32
going crazy in chucky cheese. What
1:35:34
is the goddamn most expensive pizza
1:35:37
that you can buy? Is there a $50 fucking pizza?
1:35:42
And that would be 10, 20, 30 of them. What's
1:35:46
your most expensive pizza? It's like $12. I'll
1:35:49
take 10,000 of them right now. Do
1:35:52
you deliver? Do they
1:35:54
have the capacity to make $1,500 worth
1:35:57
of pizza in such a short period of time? an
1:36:00
article here, Jim. From
1:36:02
the Gainesville Sun, this is a serious matter,
1:36:04
from the Gainesville Sun by
1:36:08
Alan Festo. Paisano's
1:36:12
owner says, and is a
1:36:14
quote, evidence clear after
1:36:17
Ric Flair asked to leave Gainesville
1:36:19
Restaurant, WWE legend
1:36:21
and Hall of Famer Ric Flair created quite
1:36:24
a stir on social media over the weekend.
1:36:26
Okay, now, and also, wait a minute, how
1:36:28
much stir do you have to make to
1:36:31
get in the newspaper over a fucking
1:36:34
disagreement at a pizza place? The
1:36:37
sad thing is, I'm pretty sure with all
1:36:39
of these stories, it always starts off great.
1:36:41
Hey, Ric Flair is here, he's also taking
1:36:43
pictures with everyone. I love this guy. Hey,
1:36:46
who's knocking on the bathroom door? Get out
1:36:48
of the bathroom! Woo! Out of the
1:36:50
bathroom! All of a sudden, he's there trying to
1:36:52
get him out of the bathroom? So,
1:36:55
what did they say in the newspaper? He
1:36:58
bashed a Gainesville restaurant while in town to attend a
1:37:01
University of Florida graduation
1:37:03
ceremony. Flair, 75, and family
1:37:06
members were dining at the Paisano Stone
1:37:10
Fired Pizza restaurant, 1250 West
1:37:12
University Avenue. Flair must have a big
1:37:15
family by that, didn't know he was a Mormon
1:37:17
when the professional wrestler apparently was
1:37:19
asked to leave. He
1:37:22
advises more than two million followers to avoid the
1:37:24
restaurant on their next visit to Gainesville.
1:37:29
They have the tweet here. Paisano's
1:37:31
co-owner Jerry Roberts, when
1:37:33
reached Monday by the sun, said the evidence
1:37:36
was clear, but declined to offer
1:37:38
an explanation as to why Flair was asked
1:37:43
to leave the restaurant. The evidence of what was
1:37:45
clear to who? He then sent a prepared
1:37:48
statement via text message,
1:37:50
and here's the statement, team
1:38:00
worked in a professional manner to
1:38:02
ensure the safety of guests and
1:38:04
staff. What the fuck? We
1:38:07
have been here! We have been... What?
1:38:09
We have been here! We
1:38:12
have thanked our team for their
1:38:14
professionalism. We are
1:38:17
proud of how they responded to this situation,
1:38:21
using and displaying our
1:38:23
team values. What was the
1:38:25
situation? What are your values
1:38:27
as it applies to this
1:38:29
situation? Robert says they have
1:38:31
no intention on releasing the video. I
1:38:34
don't even need to see the video! I just like
1:38:37
some motherfuckers to tell me what the fuck happened. Who
1:38:40
was locked in the bathroom? Who
1:38:42
wouldn't come out of the closet? How is
1:38:45
it $1,500 worth of pizzas
1:38:47
can be consumed by one family? And
1:38:50
how did taking pictures and signing autographs
1:38:53
go to, you must leave
1:38:55
the premises and never return? There
1:39:00
are all kinds of stories here that are being
1:39:02
left out. Yeah, there is something going on and
1:39:04
I'm not exactly sure what. Again,
1:39:06
$1,500 at a pizza place. I've
1:39:11
never goddamn made the news for
1:39:14
being asked to leave a restaurant
1:39:16
or establishment such as that. And
1:39:19
one would think that I'm one of the more
1:39:21
disagreeable people if you listen to the rumors and
1:39:23
the casual conversation. But I
1:39:25
don't make the news for these things. You
1:39:27
don't make the news for these things. And
1:39:30
by the way, no one wants to kick out the guy
1:39:32
spending all the money. No
1:39:35
restaurant business model is like, hey, we're having a
1:39:37
problem. We're too busy. We got to get rid
1:39:39
of the guy spending all the money over there.
1:39:44
Leave the guy that's tips the servers on
1:39:46
their tip and get rid of that guy
1:39:48
that's throwing hundreds around. How
1:39:53
can that go so far south
1:39:55
so quickly, I wonder? It
1:39:58
is families there? And
1:40:03
we need, you know what, bar rescue, John
1:40:05
Taffer needs to get in on this. He
1:40:08
needs to follow Flair around the different
1:40:10
bars and call it Flair's Rescue from
1:40:12
Bars. And
1:40:15
we'll get to this one-hour television program.
1:40:18
Wouldn't it be funny if it was Austin Idol's Pizza Place? Hey,
1:40:24
I think you could live there for a year and a half and not spend
1:40:26
$1,500. Well,
1:40:29
there's the Rick Flair story. There's
1:40:32
a rumor about another part
1:40:35
of the story, but it's unconfirmed as of
1:40:37
this moment. Are
1:40:39
we allowed to spread clearly
1:40:43
labeled as such unconfirmed
1:40:45
rumors? Well,
1:40:47
Jim, there was another part of the story
1:40:49
that's kind of unconfirmed, but if
1:40:52
in any way true, paints a very
1:40:54
interesting picture of these proceedings. There's
1:40:57
a tweet that was sent out. The name
1:40:59
seems odd. Freddie
1:41:01
Schnurz? Is
1:41:04
the at at Freddie Schnurz? Fred,
1:41:08
Fredrich von Schnurz is his name right
1:41:10
here. What the- I don't
1:41:13
know. People do interesting things.
1:41:15
Well, how in the world do you expect a
1:41:17
guy named Schnurz to be a liar? I'm
1:41:19
the manager of Paisano's sister location
1:41:22
off Archer. Mr.
1:41:24
Flair was being drunk and disorderly. He
1:41:27
wooed directly into a blind
1:41:29
grandmother's face. Let
1:41:33
me try that again. Wait.
1:41:41
He wooed directly into a
1:41:43
blind grandmother's face. After
1:41:46
being confronted, he picked up furniture
1:41:48
and swung it menacingly. What? We
1:41:51
love Rick, but he was boogered. He
1:41:56
wooed into a blind
1:41:58
grandmother's face. Maybe
1:42:01
she wanted a picture. But
1:42:07
how would that do her any good if she
1:42:09
got a picture? How
1:42:13
would she have known to ask? Maybe she
1:42:15
said, I've never been able to see you. Can I at least
1:42:17
feel your breath? Can you?
1:42:20
Well, no wonder she probably snookered now,
1:42:22
but can you imagine
1:42:24
if you
1:42:26
were some blind person and suddenly,
1:42:29
without warning, Ric Flair wooed an
1:42:31
inch from your face? Well,
1:42:36
again, this may or may not have
1:42:38
happened, but something happened in Paisano's. That
1:42:40
was so bad they won't release the
1:42:42
video, but they're proud of their team
1:42:44
for standing up for themselves. How
1:42:47
can you dispute the word of
1:42:49
Frederick von Schniklegruber? You
1:42:52
can't take Flair anywhere. Well, that's the first
1:42:54
Ric Flair story, the second one. There's
1:42:56
more? I'm just seeing this a little
1:42:58
while ago, but I've not read it yet. Ric
1:43:02
Flair appeared on the
1:43:05
Jackson podcast, if that's how
1:43:07
you say it, J-A-X-X-O-N. And
1:43:11
Flair, during that interview, said that doctors informed him
1:43:13
in late 2023 that he had
1:43:15
a heart attack at some point within the last two
1:43:18
years. And what? And he
1:43:20
believes it happened during his last match. Oh,
1:43:22
for God's sake. There's a quote, I
1:43:25
went to get what's called a calcium scan,
1:43:28
which I've never had before, because
1:43:30
a couple of guys died in our business of heart issues,
1:43:32
so it kind of scared me. They
1:43:35
give you the nuclear stress test, shoot
1:43:37
you up with the dye, put you
1:43:39
on the treadmill, everything. It's
1:43:41
two days of three hours of tests. Holy
1:43:44
shit! This is six months ago.
1:43:47
The guy takes me in, and if
1:43:49
you look at your heart like a round pie, there's
1:43:52
a piece of my heart right here, this
1:43:54
big, it's black. It's
1:43:56
gone. The guy said, you've
1:43:58
had a heart attack. had a heart attack in
1:44:00
the last two years. He said,
1:44:03
have you passed out in the last two
1:44:05
years? And during my
1:44:07
last match I passed out three times. Oh,
1:44:10
Christ. And I thought it was because I
1:44:12
was dehydrated. Oh, well, that happens to me
1:44:14
all the time. So I went into the
1:44:16
locker room with Kid Rock and Taker and
1:44:19
just drank two bottles of Gatorade and
1:44:22
went back out to Kid Rock's place
1:44:24
all night long. But I had
1:44:26
a heart attack. Which
1:44:28
really makes what was a pathetic
1:44:30
and awful idea and event look even
1:44:32
worse in retrospect. Well,
1:44:34
everybody thought when they were looking at it that
1:44:36
they were watching him have
1:44:39
some type of attack
1:44:41
and or die. And
1:44:45
that's why I remember we chose
1:44:47
not to talk about that event because,
1:44:49
you know, I
1:44:51
did not want to have to look at
1:44:54
that and give my honest opinion on someone
1:44:56
that I cared about. But
1:45:00
everybody has to quit doing pretty
1:45:03
much everything at some point, including
1:45:06
breathing. Why
1:45:08
rush the shit? Quit
1:45:10
doing some
1:45:12
of the superficial shit so you can just stick
1:45:15
to contributing your energy to
1:45:17
the more important shit like
1:45:19
breathing. If
1:45:25
part of his heart is black, that
1:45:28
kind of indicates that his heart's not doing
1:45:31
as well as it could be doing at
1:45:33
this current time, even though he didn't die
1:45:35
of the heart attack, doesn't it? Maybe this
1:45:37
is some kind of new way to promote
1:45:39
woo energy. Oh, come on. You
1:45:42
mean to say- Make your heart go
1:45:44
black! Woo! Well, no, woo energy will
1:45:47
bring your heart back from the dark
1:45:49
side. Bring your heart back from black!
1:45:51
Woo! You could
1:45:53
get Flair, Amy Winehouse, and...
1:45:58
Well, you never know. And... And
1:46:00
fucking ACDC. They
1:46:03
could be back from black in red from
1:46:05
the black of the back. All
1:46:08
right. Well, that's the Rick Flair heart attack news.
1:46:10
So, uh, we almost did see him die. And
1:46:15
again, with the same comment I made
1:46:17
with the, the
1:46:20
Lawler news is that I thought everybody
1:46:22
was making a big
1:46:24
deal over, you know, not renewing
1:46:26
an announcer contract for who is
1:46:29
in effect a retired announcer, but
1:46:32
at the same point, you know,
1:46:34
maybe with at some
1:46:37
point people are going to have
1:46:39
to refuse to let
1:46:41
Rick damage himself on
1:46:43
their dime. I'm
1:46:46
not talking about appearances or, you know, he
1:46:48
can pitch wings or drinks or whatever, but
1:46:51
he can pitch a little woo, whatever, but
1:46:54
not getting the ring, not be physical,
1:46:56
not have another fucking heart attack or
1:47:00
somebody's got to prime out of the bathroom sooner
1:47:02
or later. Well,
1:47:05
maybe it was the kitchen manager. Where
1:47:09
was the other? Where's the house manager? It
1:47:11
was the kitchen. Yeah. Where, where, where's
1:47:13
the maître d at a prestigious place
1:47:15
like Paisanos? Where is the, the all
1:47:20
the other people besides the kitchen manager that ought to
1:47:22
be dragging somebody out of the bathroom. So we don't
1:47:24
even know. Unwieldily worded.
1:47:26
That's the thing. It's either flair locked
1:47:28
himself in the bathroom and they
1:47:30
couldn't get him out and it became an issue or
1:47:33
the manager was in the bathroom too
1:47:36
long and flair was either waiting to use
1:47:38
the bathroom or was so offended by
1:47:40
this while sitting down that he got up and said, Hey,
1:47:43
I spent $1,500 here. Now
1:47:45
for you to use the shitter. Get
1:47:47
out of there. I believe that more than I
1:47:50
did because flair is not going to lock himself
1:47:52
in the bathroom because he's, he's, that would be
1:47:54
away from the bar. He's not doing fucking heroin
1:47:56
in there. He's fucking drinking. So
1:47:59
why would he lock? himself away from the bar.
1:48:02
But why would the kitchen manager go in the
1:48:04
only receptacle that's available
1:48:07
to the fucking, and
1:48:09
then why is the manager of the place in
1:48:11
the official statement proud of his team and the
1:48:13
way they handled something that could have
1:48:16
been dangerous to the
1:48:18
safety of themselves that flair knocked over
1:48:20
monitors screamed, you're a clown. This place
1:48:22
is a joke and I quit. And
1:48:25
the, and the people were scared for their lives. That's
1:48:31
the only thing I can figure. You
1:48:34
know, what causes this whole thing? Don't you,
1:48:36
Brian? Uh,
1:48:38
vodka and cranberry sauce. Well, no,
1:48:40
well that could have a contributory
1:48:42
juice. He's
1:48:53
a sick man. It's
1:48:56
a super duper jello shot folks,
1:48:58
especially around Thanksgiving. You're going to
1:49:01
see vodka and
1:49:04
cranberry sauce. Yeah.
1:49:08
But anyway, what, what
1:49:11
the cause of the whole thing is,
1:49:13
is that people don't understand each other.
1:49:16
People don't communicate anymore. Cause
1:49:18
people don't listen. You
1:49:20
know what you need? And you need to listen. You
1:49:23
need to listen when you need to listen. And
1:49:25
then you need to hear when
1:49:27
you need to hear and you need to
1:49:29
understand when you understand, need to understand. And
1:49:31
all that comes from what's in your ears,
1:49:34
Brian. And that's the Raycon everyday wireless earbuds.
1:49:36
If Rick flair had been sitting right
1:49:39
there, listening to some classic tunes or
1:49:41
maybe even our podcast, he
1:49:43
wouldn't have gotten mad that guy was taking so long
1:49:45
in the shitter or perhaps
1:49:48
that may be what the problem was
1:49:50
in reverse that Rick had gone to
1:49:52
the bathroom was listening to our podcast
1:49:54
on his every day wireless
1:49:57
earbuds from Raycon and
1:49:59
lost track attack. time, and the
1:50:01
kitchen manager was trying to batter the door
1:50:03
down with a battering ram to
1:50:05
get him out of there before he had wiped
1:50:07
properly up and down sideways and in a vertical
1:50:09
fashion. You never know about
1:50:12
these things. Is that a good
1:50:14
enough reason to start talking about these great earbuds?
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They're not great earbuds, they're the best earbuds. Well
1:50:20
they're best selling. We know that for a
1:50:23
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the goddamn copy. And besides that, the
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folks at Raycon have just launched
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1:50:50
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1:50:56
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1:50:58
to about 200 feet. Then
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people start getting loud again. Also
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they've got an ergonomic design. Now
1:51:08
Brian, you know what that means, don't you? Ergonomic
1:51:10
design? Of course. Well
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then why don't you explain it to
1:51:15
our listeners? Then they said they are
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proper way using
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ergonomics. Ergonomics
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because that's where your ear is over there
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in the start of
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the ergonomics. That's
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where Brandon Thurston works I believe. Yes.
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right in your ear and boy I'll tell you
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what, also if you grab the tip
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them out and push them in, pull them out and push them
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in, do that about a hundred times, holy
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mackerel you'll wet your pants. And
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they've got multi-point connectivity
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that lets you pair with two
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devices at once. You know, we
1:51:58
don't judge. If you're free
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and easy in your private life and you want
1:52:02
a pair with two devices at once, one
1:52:05
in the front, one in the rear, both up tight,
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it makes no difference to us and you can do
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it now. But they're ergonomically
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ready for your ear for the record.
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Your ears. Well, your
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ears, two ears. You know, that's where
1:52:18
you hear, but I mean, you could
1:52:21
really willy-nilly insert them. They're
1:52:23
insertable because they're ergonomics. So you could put
1:52:25
them wherever you want, but you're not going
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to get a lot of fulfillment because they're
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so small because of the space age technology.
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So you've got that going for you. It
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favorite color is fuchsia chartreuse. What
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about you, Brian? Titanium
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white. Well, they got
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them for you no matter what you want. Uh,
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actually they don't have either of those colors, but
1:52:56
they have some that are confusingly similar, but
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again, remember folks, optimize gel tips,
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it's weatherproof and or
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then that could be, you know, two different things. Cause
1:53:52
you don't want to stand out in the rain, but
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also if you're going to wear them in
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it doesn't do anything about the. But
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it does something to resist the sweat. But
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Cause they're just across town. For
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the record, we can't guarantee that. than either. So
1:56:00
it was a joke. Don't sue.
1:56:02
Oh, what? I don't, don't be starting
1:56:04
to tell these people anything. It's not
1:56:07
true. Brian stick to the goddamn facts.
1:56:09
Like I do. I
1:56:12
will stick to the facts and that's
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stank bud with Raycon. One
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more time. What's that promo code? Jim JCE.
1:56:21
Well, that's JC over
1:56:23
to the next, uh, Island
1:56:25
or wherever we're going. Why, why, why are you
1:56:27
taking us there? I'm the captain of this ship.
1:56:29
I'll just sit in the back. Let's
1:56:31
talk about for briefly, and then we'll get
1:56:34
to the big pay-per-view, the big French fry
1:56:36
over there. But let's talk real quick about
1:56:38
SmackDown. This past Friday night,
1:56:40
May the third, it was also from Lyon,
1:56:44
France. And
1:56:48
I guess the building is 11,000 something
1:56:50
capacity. They sold
1:56:52
out both nights, but besides
1:56:55
the fact that you noticed on the immediately
1:56:57
on television, they had the small setup because
1:57:00
they've got more seats because all these people
1:57:02
are in these seats. But
1:57:04
they said this was the
1:57:06
highest grossing SmackDown in history.
1:57:10
And they've had SmackDowns with, with twice
1:57:12
as many people. So
1:57:15
what the fuck were those tickets over
1:57:17
there? How's the French economy these days?
1:57:20
Apparently they're doing
1:57:22
quite well with the sauces and the
1:57:25
Pepe Le Pew's and you know,
1:57:27
Pepe Le Pew figures are the
1:57:29
seventh largest grossing domestic
1:57:32
export from France. That
1:57:35
is not true. But of course it's not.
1:57:38
You know, they said that here the next
1:57:40
night, they said that it was the highest
1:57:42
grossing arena event in WWE history. And
1:57:45
when you hear it like that phrase, like that arena event,
1:57:47
you stop and you're like, what does that mean? I
1:57:50
mean, they run a lot of arenas, you know,
1:57:52
but that, that means anything that's not a stadium.
1:57:57
And they have, they have run arenas with the,
1:57:59
you know, capacities up
1:58:02
to 22,000. So
1:58:06
these were some expensive fucking tickets is what
1:58:08
I'm saying to you. And
1:58:12
this, I was
1:58:14
gonna say this on the pay-per-view review but
1:58:16
I won't save it, I'll say it now.
1:58:20
This really makes... Remember
1:58:22
that old tagline that Vince had years ago?
1:58:24
The W... World Wrestling
1:58:27
Federation, the global leader in
1:58:30
sports entertainment. They
1:58:33
really are now. They
1:58:36
have these international markets that
1:58:38
have never had shows like
1:58:40
this before. For
1:58:42
one reason, Vince didn't want to do pay-per-views,
1:58:46
the big show with a premium live event
1:58:48
of whatever, anywhere outside of the continental United
1:58:50
States because the time zone difference, it would
1:58:52
affect the buys and the buys were where
1:58:55
all the money came in. And
1:58:57
now that not
1:59:00
only have they got the peacock deal
1:59:02
or the Netflix deal coming up or
1:59:04
where they don't have to live
1:59:06
and die on the sales
1:59:09
of the pay-per-view, they're
1:59:12
able to jack the
1:59:14
tickets up individually so much
1:59:16
now that they can gross as
1:59:19
much on a goddamn live gate
1:59:22
as they used to after their pay-per-view
1:59:24
split was taken out with the cable
1:59:26
company. So this
1:59:28
is a... And again,
1:59:30
these fans were amped up for
1:59:32
anything because it hadn't been done
1:59:35
to death over there. It isn't old
1:59:37
news. It isn't their third
1:59:40
time there in the last 14 months
1:59:42
or whatever. It's a
1:59:44
big show that they've been hearing talked about
1:59:46
on the television that's promoted around the world
1:59:48
and they get to be a part of
1:59:50
it. And now the new
1:59:53
ownership has said, oh yeah, we're gonna
1:59:56
keep the big five here in the
1:59:58
United States, WrestleMania, Royal Rumble, Surrounding. whatever.
2:00:01
We'll do the other seven in
2:00:04
these international markets, the next one Saudi
2:00:06
Arabia or wherever, right? They're gonna get
2:00:08
50 million dollars for. And can
2:00:11
you imagine when they do WrestleMania
2:00:13
in London? Because
2:00:16
the mayor just invited them. Anywhere
2:00:19
that they go now with this
2:00:21
infrastructure and
2:00:27
the UFC manner
2:00:29
of worldwide touring, these
2:00:33
crowds are gonna be batshit insane and
2:00:35
it makes it to the American fan
2:00:37
who's seen such blasé-ness over here for
2:00:39
so long because we're used to it.
2:00:43
It makes them say, oh shit, this shit's moreover
2:00:45
and I thought they were, doesn't it? When
2:00:47
you see a crowd like that you think, what
2:00:49
the fuck did I miss? These people are going
2:00:51
crazy. I think any time they're
2:00:53
gonna go into a new market in Europe, they're gonna
2:00:56
see fans go this crazy and a lot of the
2:00:58
fans may retain that energy but specifically
2:01:00
for these first two shows, it
2:01:02
was like nothing I've ever
2:01:05
seen. Yeah and when Vince did
2:01:07
do the international tours, when
2:01:10
he started that in the 80s and
2:01:12
then more so in the 90s when
2:01:15
business domestically was down, it was
2:01:17
still a thing where go and do the house show,
2:01:19
boom, and on to the next town and let's ride
2:01:21
it. And the guys were in Germany for fucking two
2:01:23
weeks or whatever but
2:01:26
this they go over, they do tons of
2:01:28
publicity, it's the boom, get in and get
2:01:30
out in a weekend and mega fucking gross
2:01:32
and the people are
2:01:35
amped up for it because they know it's
2:01:37
unique or very rare and
2:01:39
unusual. And
2:01:42
with this fucking SmackDown, what
2:01:46
they presented the viewer here, the
2:01:48
crowd saved it for the
2:01:50
most part, didn't they? Because they
2:01:53
could go out there and just fart at these
2:01:55
people and they would have loved it. So
2:01:57
it wasn't really for the... You
2:02:00
know for the fans there that they had
2:02:03
to do anything but it was the show
2:02:05
was what it was just good at one
2:02:07
point i wrote is this rampage. Because
2:02:10
it was what it was the. The
2:02:14
crowd was the story they had the
2:02:16
the eight man tag with. Bailey
2:02:19
and Naomi and be on can
2:02:21
jade against oscar and kary and
2:02:23
dakota and tiffany. And
2:02:26
that was twenty minutes and. You
2:02:29
know that tyler bait and pete
2:02:31
dun against the aop with
2:02:34
their whole band of black holes of
2:02:36
charisma. There
2:02:40
is very little storyline
2:02:42
advancement for anything much because they're
2:02:44
already in france the paper used
2:02:47
in fucking twelve hours or whatever
2:02:49
so what are they really selling
2:02:51
but. I did
2:02:53
like paul e and
2:02:56
nick all this did you see paul
2:02:58
had the hair completely dark and he
2:03:00
had full mortician's makeup on. Addy
2:03:04
was looking spiffy. And
2:03:07
he's trying to tell all this. Whatever
2:03:10
happens if you don't pull
2:03:13
open the north of the pay per view
2:03:15
it's gonna be on your conscience. And
2:03:18
then all this gives it back to him. So
2:03:21
you're supposed to be in charge right you
2:03:23
know all the communication the bloodline has to
2:03:25
go through you. And
2:03:28
paul e let it slip that he hadn't
2:03:30
talked to roman rain since wrestlemania. And
2:03:33
then his face wow. So
2:03:36
all this is so you may win
2:03:38
roman rain pulled out of the draft.
2:03:42
That's also yeah i pulled roman rain
2:03:44
out of the draft i can't subject
2:03:46
roman rain too. Bloodline
2:03:48
chaos right now. It's
2:03:51
all this tall paul if he could pull roman
2:03:53
rain that will try to pull owens and or
2:03:55
not of the tag team match. But
2:03:58
now brian. this is where I was going
2:04:00
with this. Roman
2:04:03
Reigns didn't call his own shot. Roman
2:04:05
is ignoring Paul and Paul pulled him
2:04:07
out of the draft, hoping that no
2:04:09
one would notice. And this can't be
2:04:11
good for the future
2:04:13
relationship between Roman Reigns and Paul, can it?
2:04:16
And that makes sense. No one would notice
2:04:18
that. You
2:04:21
know, I love this segment. Aldous is so great. And
2:04:23
it began, what was the first thing he said? Like,
2:04:26
permission denied. He yelled at
2:04:28
him. Request denied. Whatever he
2:04:30
said to him. And
2:04:33
it started with that tension and
2:04:35
then the revelation, and both guys
2:04:37
were so good here that he
2:04:39
hasn't talked to Roman since WrestleMania.
2:04:42
The bloodline stuff remains the only thing
2:04:44
on SmackDown worth watching right now. Not to
2:04:46
take anything away from LA Knight. But
2:04:50
an ongoing issue amongst opposing sides of
2:04:52
people and etc. and what's going to
2:04:54
happen? But
2:04:57
then we flowed into, continuing
2:04:59
with Paul Lee and Orton and Owens, we
2:05:01
flowed into the RKO show at the top
2:05:03
of the nine o'clock hour. And
2:05:06
at least Owens came in handy over there because
2:05:08
he can speak French to him. All the vouly
2:05:11
vous parlays and wee
2:05:14
wheeze and things and such of that nature.
2:05:17
And Owens says
2:05:19
that he got a call from Paul
2:05:22
Lee. He's got something very important to
2:05:24
tell him that of course Paul interrupts
2:05:26
and comes out before they're ready for
2:05:28
him. And he said some
2:05:30
French words too. I don't know if he used them
2:05:33
in the right fashion. And
2:05:35
basically, fans are already
2:05:38
chanting, we want Roman. Because this fan
2:05:40
base, we'll talk about it more on
2:05:43
the pay-per-view review, not the
2:05:45
fan base, but this collection of fans
2:05:47
in France, they were singing, chanting fools,
2:05:50
boy. They love to sing and chant.
2:05:53
They love to sing about the moon and
2:05:55
the June and the spring. So
2:05:58
Paul Lee does the brilliant Paul
2:06:00
promo about the
2:06:02
bloodline saga and the match at the pay-per-view, he
2:06:04
begs him to back out of the match, you
2:06:07
don't really know what's gonna happen to you, and
2:06:11
Orton says, who is the real tribal
2:06:13
chief? And
2:06:15
Paulie's kind of humming a humming a humming,
2:06:18
there's only one tribal chief but before
2:06:20
he can say anything else, Solo
2:06:23
and Tomatonga attack
2:06:26
the fucking baby faces from behind and
2:06:28
baby faces fight back and here comes
2:06:30
the agents and the security and the
2:06:34
heels are kind of powdering out but we
2:06:36
didn't get to pin Mr.
2:06:38
Heyman down on that answer of who is
2:06:41
the real tribal chief, did we now Brian?
2:06:44
No, or if there's more than one? Well
2:06:48
he said there's only one
2:06:50
tribal chief. We'll know the answer when
2:06:53
Heyman shows up with a Voss piss
2:06:55
bottle on SmackDown. Well
2:06:57
now that's what I'm thinking, there's only one
2:07:00
tribal chief but he is not acknowledged exactly
2:07:02
who it is right now. Now could it
2:07:04
be the Rock or
2:07:07
could it be that Solo was
2:07:09
attempting to ascend to
2:07:11
the throne before his time and
2:07:14
Roman Reigns is out trying to rediscover his
2:07:16
motivation or whatever the story they're gonna have
2:07:19
for him when he comes back and blah
2:07:21
blah and where is Jacob
2:07:23
Fatu? That's
2:07:27
what I want to know and
2:07:29
then we had LA Knight against Angel
2:07:31
with Escobar and etc and that's where I
2:07:33
wrote is this rampage and LA Knight one
2:07:35
and cut a promo and he's officially entered
2:07:37
the king of the ring and
2:07:42
that's about all that happened there and then well
2:07:44
Escobar said he's gonna win the king of the ring
2:07:47
and LA said no you're not and
2:07:50
then Carlito admitted in the back that
2:07:52
he attacked Dragon Lee because they
2:07:55
picked a flunky like him for
2:07:57
WrestleMania instead of me Carlito
2:08:01
and then dragon Lee came in
2:08:03
and they got in a fight. Can
2:08:05
we shouldn't we have Out
2:08:09
of Security, it's a farce now anyway
2:08:11
Shouldn't we have everybody on the roster handcuffed
2:08:13
to a goddamn post in the back before
2:08:15
they're allowed to go out the only Handcuff
2:08:17
whoever can go out to the ring at
2:08:19
a time 15
2:08:23
fucking Backroom brawls in
2:08:25
the same wrestling program every fucking
2:08:28
week from every company Why
2:08:31
are we doing this still? That's
2:08:34
not rhetorical. I'm asking you I demand an answer.
2:08:36
I'm okay with I'm not well I mean, we're
2:08:38
not even reviewing this stuff We're just talking about
2:08:40
why we're not reviewing it because it's not there
2:08:42
why we're watching it No, why are they doing
2:08:45
the backstage? Why are they doing it every week?
2:08:48
Yeah, I don't know every
2:08:50
week all the time Street
2:08:53
prophets wrestled Waller and theory. Oh
2:08:55
joy. Oh bliss. They've ruined theory
2:08:57
for me The
2:09:00
heels won by the way, at least King
2:09:03
of the Rings in Saudi Arabia, I wrote that
2:09:05
down I used to get pissed off when the
2:09:08
pay-per-views were on the West Coast. I'm there four
2:09:10
hours five hours in a fucking plane And
2:09:13
these fuckers are going to France and Saudi Arabia I'm
2:09:17
glad That I
2:09:19
got into wrestling business in the territory days because
2:09:21
else wise I would have never gotten a wrestling
2:09:23
business Because
2:09:25
it was conceivable That
2:09:28
you could be in a wrestling business and work
2:09:31
full-time every day of the week and still only
2:09:33
be away from home in
2:09:35
some territories a couple of nights and Never
2:09:40
see an airplane But
2:09:43
boy howdy is that changed Alrighty
2:09:47
So then finally the big main
2:09:50
event segment was up Brian AJ
2:09:53
Styles and Cody Rhodes end the
2:09:56
ring face-to-face Did
2:09:59
they ever tell us? That's what the reason was.
2:10:01
We know the match is happening. Because
2:10:03
they're Georgia boys. Well,
2:10:05
they just had to have a good old
2:10:07
fashioned Georgia shootout, right? Lucky
2:10:12
no one whipped out the famous Bagwell slap.
2:10:15
Well, hey, that'd cross your eyes and
2:10:17
dot your T's. But
2:10:20
this was just so the people could see
2:10:22
them that night. And
2:10:24
a little promo for the television
2:10:26
viewers for the pay-per-view. The next
2:10:28
afternoon at one o'clock. But
2:10:31
when you watch Cody walk to the ring, he's a
2:10:33
star. Because he's
2:10:35
got the running for office fucking
2:10:37
glad handing, the smile, he looks
2:10:39
great, the suit.
2:10:42
There were so many chants at the beginning, they wouldn't
2:10:44
even let him start talking. And then he says, what
2:10:46
do you want to talk about in French? And
2:10:50
I mean, you know, love is in the room. And
2:10:53
whenever AJ would try to speak, the
2:10:55
fans at this point, they were screaming
2:10:58
and waving and jumping up and down.
2:11:02
And finally, they got to speak to each other
2:11:04
and they didn't really need to do much, but
2:11:07
they would make a comment back and forth. You
2:11:09
know, everybody
2:11:13
with AJ story is everybody wanted dusty
2:11:15
son, but I had to prove myself
2:11:17
that type of thing. But
2:11:20
I mean, if they had just gone out there and
2:11:22
said, blow me, blow me, fuck you, these people were
2:11:25
chanting and they were lunatics. But
2:11:28
anyway, AJ did a good promo, which is
2:11:30
not always his strong point, but it
2:11:32
was good. Cody had
2:11:34
Hall of Famers watching his back, but
2:11:37
AJ's beaten all of them and he's going to
2:11:39
beat Cody. And
2:11:41
that's when I think the fans were singing,
2:11:44
what was that that the fella
2:11:46
said that was Aliza Vourecht's Phenomenal
2:11:48
or La La La La La
2:11:51
La La La La La La
2:11:53
La La La La La La La Tis
2:11:56
the season for Tony's Folly. All
2:11:59
right. And
2:12:01
then Cody, you know,
2:12:04
responded and says, don't
2:12:06
tear me down to build yourself up and
2:12:10
make the best man win type of stuff. And
2:12:12
Cody says, AJ, you're going to be my first
2:12:14
and that's too sweet. And
2:12:17
then they go to finger, finger bump the
2:12:19
too sweet thing. And
2:12:21
AJ slaps Cody and leaves the
2:12:23
ring. And suddenly in
2:12:25
the back, Orton and Owens were having to pull
2:12:27
apart with the bloodline and we went off the
2:12:30
air. So that was number
2:12:33
two or number three fight in the back
2:12:35
and fucking an hour and 55 minutes.
2:12:38
But that was the whole show.
2:12:40
Wasn't it? That
2:12:42
was smackdown. Oh boy. Hey, you know,
2:12:47
I'll make this comment and then we'll, we'll
2:12:49
move on that they
2:12:52
don't need to do anything.
2:12:54
I said this the other day. Right
2:12:57
now, the WWE doesn't need
2:12:59
to do anything except
2:13:02
don't do anything stupid. And
2:13:06
Tony Khan is in a position
2:13:08
where he needs desperately to do
2:13:10
something, but everything
2:13:12
he does is stupid. So
2:13:15
they've continued to run away with this
2:13:17
thing. And you
2:13:20
see more than ever after this
2:13:22
weekend, my God, they, I
2:13:25
don't know if I'll still be living,
2:13:27
uh, by
2:13:29
the time that the goddamn international
2:13:31
market wears off for them, they could
2:13:33
run on this for five years minimum
2:13:36
without having to fucking worry a day
2:13:38
about, you know, drawing a
2:13:41
house domestically. It's
2:13:45
uh, it's, it's, it's very disheartening for
2:13:47
people who were thinking
2:13:49
that there would be an alternative
2:13:51
that actually had any, any
2:13:54
chance. What
2:13:58
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now without further ado, we got to get
2:15:14
to the main event, Brian, because all of
2:15:16
that was the SmackDown
2:15:18
and everything was merely the
2:15:20
appetizer, the soup zone, because
2:15:23
the big meal was
2:15:25
the following night backlash. And
2:15:27
these people, the
2:15:29
crowd was... the
2:15:33
matches were very good but the crowd made it.
2:15:36
Most of the matches were very good but the crowd made
2:15:38
it. Because they
2:15:41
were just having the time of their life. You
2:15:43
could tell they were going batshit insane to be
2:15:45
there no matter what was going on. And that's
2:15:49
the kind of crowds
2:15:51
that they need to be telecasting from
2:15:53
around the world back to the people
2:15:55
here to make
2:15:58
themselves look like something. Because make
2:16:00
them competitive. Yeah. Well,
2:16:02
the fans, you know, yeah, cause they, they're
2:16:04
going to teach them something. Oh, we got
2:16:06
to do this shit too. Cause they look
2:16:08
like nattering, they
2:16:11
bobs of negativity compared to these people.
2:16:14
I mean, you know, you go back and you look
2:16:16
at the footage from the seventies and eighties and people
2:16:18
are going batshit in a completely
2:16:20
different way. But
2:16:23
there was always noise. There was always
2:16:25
something going on. Well, that's, you know,
2:16:27
what these people are because it's, as
2:16:30
they used to call in the business, Virgin territory.
2:16:32
When you opened up a
2:16:34
market that hadn't had live wrestling in years,
2:16:37
it was Virgin territory and the people would start
2:16:39
reacting again like that. Cause they were starved. And
2:16:43
anyway, this is like when mid-Atlantic opened up.
2:16:46
Well, they didn't, they didn't sing and I would
2:16:48
have hated to heard if they'd have tried. And
2:16:51
there wasn't chance going on. But
2:16:54
you know, back in those days, except if
2:16:56
the baby face of Ricky Steamboat was down,
2:16:58
you go, Ricky, go that type of chant.
2:17:01
But they were on lockups.
2:17:05
They were cheering and the heel could fucking
2:17:07
tease pulling hair. And it would sound like
2:17:09
he just pulled out a goddamn blackjack because
2:17:13
they, they hadn't been spoiled and
2:17:15
they hadn't been numbed to
2:17:17
things by seeing it over and over
2:17:19
again. And
2:17:22
again, this crowd they said was 11,682, but
2:17:24
it was the all-time arena gate records. So
2:17:28
they paid money to be there. And
2:17:33
they had a
2:17:35
nice little cold open with the geography lesson
2:17:37
on France and Lyon. And
2:17:41
they said it was the third largest city in France with 500,000
2:17:43
people. So that to me, the crowd is
2:17:46
that much more impressive because would that make
2:17:48
top 35 cities in this country
2:17:50
500,000 people? I
2:17:55
don't know. Well, I thought you knew. everything?
2:18:00
I don't know that. That's a good
2:18:02
question. Well, I know everything for money
2:18:04
but I don't know that. So
2:18:07
the point is they had a lot
2:18:11
of people for the market paying
2:18:13
extraordinary prices and they wanted to
2:18:15
have fun and be there and
2:18:17
they knew everybody's shit. That's
2:18:20
what you heard about. You
2:18:23
know the guys from the 90s overseas tours
2:18:25
in the WWF talking about how yeah
2:18:27
they were up on everything. They knew
2:18:29
the programs, they knew the words to
2:18:32
the theme songs in a foreign language.
2:18:35
So that's dedication. Anyway.
2:18:38
You used to hear that about Germany, the
2:18:41
German fans. That
2:18:43
they were dedicated or that they knew all
2:18:45
the words to the theme songs in English?
2:18:48
Well just when WWF started going over there
2:18:50
they were just incredibly dedicated fans. But
2:18:53
they still didn't learn a second language
2:18:55
to be able to sing in it.
2:18:57
Well a lot of the guys didn't
2:19:00
have lyrics to their songs back then.
2:19:02
They just came out to like whatever
2:19:04
Jim Johnson. I like Jim Johnson as
2:19:06
a person but that's what some of them sounded like
2:19:08
too. Oh
2:19:11
god damn. Even fucking Rogers and
2:19:14
Hammerstein didn't write 700 hits. So
2:19:19
anyway. There are people that talk about Jim Johnson
2:19:21
like every song was a hit. Everyone
2:19:23
was perfect. Not that like
2:19:25
some were really fucking cheesy. No and some of
2:19:28
them we just kept and when somebody didn't have
2:19:30
music have we played that one lately? Yeah the
2:19:33
heavenly bodies have like Jim D'Andville
2:19:35
Nighthart's music or something. Oh yeah.
2:19:38
And that's not even a slight
2:19:41
at Jim Johnston but again
2:19:43
fucking Lennon and McCartney didn't fucking
2:19:45
compose over 15 or 20 years. How many
2:19:48
wrestlers came through there? So
2:19:52
anyhow. These fans are
2:19:54
great. Yes these
2:19:56
fans are great and speaking of wrestlers coming
2:19:58
through there. Kevin Owens
2:20:00
comes out and
2:20:02
stops halfway down the entrance way. And I
2:20:04
think, oh, he's milking it, the crowd reaction,
2:20:07
the music and everything. He waited forever. And
2:20:09
then he just stood
2:20:11
there and waited for Orton. Was he
2:20:13
overcome with emotion from his French ancestors
2:20:15
or what was the, it
2:20:18
wasn't as, as
2:20:21
pretentious an entrance as I would think Owens would be
2:20:23
doing. He was just kind of standing there. He wasn't
2:20:26
firing him up or anything. He was taking in the
2:20:28
moment, I guess. Do the
2:20:30
French consider the French Canadians to just
2:20:32
be, you know, like
2:20:34
their cousins, like it
2:20:36
is another country. It's another land. They speak
2:20:38
the same language, but well,
2:20:40
maybe is it like one of those. There are plenty of
2:20:42
jerks that speak English. Well, yeah. That's
2:20:45
why is it one of those deals? Like
2:20:47
we don't want to be associated with those
2:20:49
fucking French Canadian motherfuckers, they're fake French. We
2:20:51
don't know. You don't know.
2:20:54
I'll tell you what they, they don't put much fucking
2:20:56
ice in the drinks up there. I'll tell you that.
2:21:00
And then here came Orton and the
2:21:02
people sang his song in English and
2:21:05
they actually were able to carry a tune. He
2:21:09
was a mega star to them. I mean, it
2:21:11
was just, it started out that way. And then
2:21:15
here comes solo and
2:21:17
Tomatanga and they're going to have
2:21:19
the tag team match and they just jump into
2:21:21
a four way and go to the floor and
2:21:23
get a fight. And here come the referees, the
2:21:25
agents and chaos and security. And the
2:21:28
people were loving this because they don't see shit.
2:21:30
Now they got the chaos, right? They were
2:21:32
going nuts. Yes. And
2:21:35
Aldous comes out and says, if
2:21:37
you can't obey the rules, then
2:21:39
it's a notice qualification street fight,
2:21:43
but it wasn't lazy
2:21:45
booking because
2:21:47
that got an incredible pop.
2:21:51
And in a
2:21:53
situation, this is where you give it to them. You
2:21:56
got the biggest house you've ever drawn. You've got
2:21:58
a big show on. television,
2:22:01
pay-per-view, streaming, whatever. You
2:22:04
got a hot crowd. Drop
2:22:06
the cow. Give them the fucking
2:22:09
show. Right? Can
2:22:11
you imagine not only
2:22:13
for the people in France, but
2:22:15
how could the people here would
2:22:17
have taken this match if they didn't
2:22:19
see something like it not
2:22:22
done as well? This
2:22:24
was very good. They kept up the idea
2:22:26
of a fight. Their shit was stiff. It
2:22:28
wasn't silly. It wasn't stupid
2:22:31
dangerous, but
2:22:33
they still did the goddamn, you
2:22:36
know, furniture fight and everything just at a
2:22:38
higher level. And it not
2:22:40
only would have torn the house down in France, which
2:22:42
it did, but it also would have had more meaning
2:22:45
to the viewers here in the United
2:22:47
States, at least maybe Canada, whatever, if
2:22:50
they didn't see shit like this constantly
2:22:52
done. Not
2:22:54
as well, less good, whatever the
2:22:57
metric is. Does that make
2:22:59
any sense? It
2:23:01
makes sense. Again, Virgin territory. They don't have AEW
2:23:04
going to be there next week or something. But
2:23:07
there's also the difference between Virgin territory
2:23:09
and the Whore of Babylon. So
2:23:12
there's a big difference between the Virgin territory
2:23:15
and the Whore of Babylon. Yes. Can
2:23:17
we not get branches of the Long
2:23:19
Island railroad in between those two stars? Boy,
2:23:21
howdy. I'll tell you what, train after
2:23:23
train has gone through that tunnel. Unconconcomable.
2:23:27
It, you can't go once a
2:23:29
year with a street fight, but
2:23:31
you can't, like the same thing
2:23:33
with the backstage assaults. You can't
2:23:35
have three in a show or
2:23:37
four a week or whatever. It
2:23:39
just diminishes what the people
2:23:41
who have this called for
2:23:43
it. There was an issue. There was a
2:23:45
crowd. There was a gate. There was remuneration.
2:23:48
You're not building, Leon,
2:23:51
France for a return house next month.
2:23:53
Give them the blow off. Right?
2:23:55
This is where it works and it would have
2:23:57
worked on television even better. if
2:24:00
we didn't see so much like it done more poorly.
2:24:04
But you know, they, they did do
2:24:06
the furniture, but not to a ridiculous
2:24:08
degree. But people had to
2:24:10
fall through the tables. They
2:24:12
got good heat on Owens at one point.
2:24:14
Then Orton had a big comeback. Then they
2:24:16
stopped him, but he hit the RKO out
2:24:18
of nowhere on the desk. And
2:24:21
they, at one point you can't, you
2:24:24
can't control Owens from his, his
2:24:27
demons. So at one point he hit
2:24:31
Tomatonga with four chairs, a total
2:24:33
of six times, and then set
2:24:35
up the chairs. So he
2:24:37
ended up brain bustering him through the chairs.
2:24:39
That you know,
2:24:41
was needless in my opinion,
2:24:44
cause somebody would be fucked up. But
2:24:46
the place went batshit and
2:24:49
Owens covers him and the referee
2:24:51
gets pulled out by another and
2:24:53
it's Tomatonga's brother, Tonga Loa. Now
2:24:57
if it's Tomatonga's brother, shouldn't his
2:24:59
last name be Tonga and his
2:25:01
first name be Loa? Or
2:25:04
is he a Loa Tonga and the other
2:25:06
one's a higher Tonga? Well, the other interesting
2:25:08
thing is when Haku was in the Islanders,
2:25:10
his tag team partner of the Tonga kids
2:25:12
name was Tama. So
2:25:15
are you in, and he's a fan and that's,
2:25:17
and that's a, in real life that's
2:25:19
what fat too, one of the fatus. Well
2:25:22
that's what I'm saying. Are you trying to say
2:25:24
that Haku's children are illegitimate? That's
2:25:26
not what I'm saying in any way. Well
2:25:28
that sounds like it. What I'm saying
2:25:30
is, you're blaming the Tonga kid. I'm
2:25:32
not blaming that for the Tama and
2:25:34
the Tonga of the Loa. I applied
2:25:36
no blame for any reason. There's no
2:25:38
reason for blame. I'm simply playing the
2:25:40
name game, not the blame game. Shirley,
2:25:44
Shirley, Shirley, Booberly, Banana Fan.
2:25:47
Chuck, Chuck, Chuck, Boba, Banana
2:25:49
Fan. Let's do Stan.
2:25:52
Okay, so anyway, Paulie was shocked.
2:25:56
And amazed by that the brother came
2:25:58
in. And the
2:26:00
new guy hit Randy
2:26:02
Orton with the stairs and Solo
2:26:05
spiked Owens and
2:26:07
pinned him 1, 2, And
2:26:11
again, I said great fight and the
2:26:13
right place to do it and they kept it
2:26:15
serious, etc., etc.
2:26:18
But where's Jacob Fatou? Can
2:26:20
you imagine the day because I mean,
2:26:23
Tomitonga, he looks good, he's in good
2:26:25
shape, this guy is okay, but this
2:26:28
is like giving us the
2:26:30
garnish and the parsley and we need
2:26:32
the fucking sizzle and the steak. Well,
2:26:35
two things. One, so
2:26:38
far we were hit with two surprises
2:26:40
expecting Jacob Fatou, Tomitonga
2:26:42
and Tango Loa. By
2:26:44
the way, both guys, specifically Tomitonga
2:26:46
because he's been there longer, were
2:26:48
kind of not thought of as highly as some of
2:26:51
the other guys in New Japan. Look
2:26:53
at how well he's been used since he got to WWE.
2:26:55
Who's a bigger star now? Well
2:26:57
and the thing also is Tomitonga
2:27:00
helps Solo because Solo's still green
2:27:02
and you can tell that Tomitonga
2:27:06
is more experienced and a little more smooth
2:27:08
and can maybe help him along but go
2:27:10
ahead. And I like the energy he's giving
2:27:12
off where he's just like this crazy guy
2:27:14
that he rams cars into Kevin
2:27:16
Owens car and he's out there just
2:27:19
starting fights. We don't know when
2:27:21
they're going to do Jacob Fatou but the other thing is we
2:27:23
also don't know if Jacob Fatou's past
2:27:26
may prohibit him from traveling overseas. Ah,
2:27:30
yes. Well no, but France, they'll
2:27:32
take anybody, won't they? But now
2:27:34
everyone's sitting here waiting for Jacob Fatou. I
2:27:37
mean now it's kind of a... Well,
2:27:39
but actually no, we are and people in
2:27:41
the know are but the wider general audience
2:27:43
isn't waiting for him because they don't have
2:27:45
a fucking clue that he's there, he's coming.
2:27:48
And again, Roman has to come back somehow.
2:27:52
And if we're led to believe he's coming back as a
2:27:54
babyface or even
2:27:56
if he's coming back as a heel and they're
2:27:58
doing some weird heel versus heel blood... headline feud,
2:28:02
he's gonna need people on his side too. It
2:28:05
would be a little weird if it's the Usos right away,
2:28:08
just because of everything that's
2:28:10
happened. Yeah, but at the
2:28:12
same time, Jacob Fatu is
2:28:14
the meanest, wildest-looking, dirtiest, fucking
2:28:17
craziest, most
2:28:20
impressive one. All these other
2:28:22
guys are clean as shit,
2:28:24
right? And they're groomed and
2:28:26
they don't scare people. Jacob
2:28:29
Fatu's scary. What would worry me
2:28:31
is this. Right now
2:28:33
it's working, and Heyman's playing his
2:28:35
role really well. But
2:28:38
if you had another guy that that audience has never
2:28:40
seen before, all of a sudden you have a stable
2:28:42
of four, three relative
2:28:44
unknowns to that audience, and one guy who's only
2:28:46
been there a little while. Yes. You
2:28:50
know, I almost feel like Jacob Fatu could get lost in
2:28:52
that a little more than he could if he was just
2:28:54
there with someone who had a little more. Well,
2:28:57
that's why I'm saying he should have already been
2:28:59
introduced in this mix rather than these other two
2:29:01
guys. I don't
2:29:03
know. We'll see where it goes. But I would
2:29:05
have shown him
2:29:08
the most impressive Samoan first, and
2:29:11
nobody has raised
2:29:14
the opinion that Tomitanga or
2:29:16
Tonga Loa or Solo, either
2:29:19
one is more impressive,
2:29:21
especially on first look when you don't
2:29:24
know what to expect than Jacob Fatu. And
2:29:26
again, now we have two of Haku's sons
2:29:30
as part of the bloodline that makes you think maybe
2:29:32
there's a chance Haku will be involved in some way,
2:29:34
not that he's going to wrestle, but just
2:29:36
as a character in the overall arc. Well,
2:29:39
we'll know if people start walking around
2:29:42
with missing noses. That
2:29:45
must mean Haku's close. That
2:29:47
was Jim that said that, Haku, if you're listening. Al,
2:29:50
we love each other. All right.
2:29:53
The next match that
2:29:55
was going to try to follow this chaos, well,
2:29:57
that's where they stuck the women's three-way. And
2:30:01
everybody, I don't like the three ways
2:30:03
most of the time, whether it's men
2:30:05
or women. They
2:30:08
did one right the other day. And
2:30:10
otherwise, I like
2:30:12
Bailey. I'd like to see her against
2:30:15
Tiffany, one-on-one maybe. I'm willing
2:30:17
to give Tiffany a chance. I'm not sold on
2:30:19
the glow worm here. But
2:30:24
basically, that's what happened is
2:30:26
that Bailey
2:30:28
and Naomi eliminated Tiffany
2:30:31
from competition with a double team move.
2:30:34
And then Bailey and
2:30:36
Naomi got in a fight for 15 seconds
2:30:38
and Bailey hooked her 1-2-3. But
2:30:41
I will say coming good out of this
2:30:43
match, Brian, and maybe this is something we
2:30:45
can discuss, Samantha Ervin
2:30:48
has sold me. Or
2:30:51
won me, or bought me, or she's
2:30:53
got me in her camp. She ain't buying you, I'll
2:30:55
tell you that. Well, whatever
2:30:58
the term is, I'm a Samantha Ervin
2:31:00
fan now. The
2:31:04
inflections, the facials, she's standing there. She's
2:31:06
doing a good job. I
2:31:09
wanted to praise her there. They're presenting
2:31:11
her really well. They're making her almost
2:31:13
an attraction. And
2:31:16
also, from what I understand, I guess
2:31:20
the previous regime had her tone down
2:31:22
a lot of her – I don't
2:31:24
know what you want to call it, exuberance. Her
2:31:27
personality as a ring announcer, whatever you want to
2:31:29
call it, they had her tone it down.
2:31:32
Now they're letting her get into
2:31:34
it. And the other thing I told you before,
2:31:37
apparently she doesn't know the results to any match.
2:31:41
So when she's sitting at ringside, she
2:31:43
gets invested in this stuff because she
2:31:45
doesn't know what's going to happen. She wants it that way.
2:31:48
She's great. And she's got the Beatles tattooed
2:31:50
on her arm. She's great. They're
2:31:53
crazy if they were trying to tell her to
2:31:55
tone it down because she comes
2:31:58
off doing this more like… the Bruce
2:32:01
Buffer, the good buffer in the family,
2:32:03
the Bruce Buffer type of introduction, et
2:32:06
cetera. But
2:32:08
anyway, I got that out of the women's three-way. What else
2:32:10
did I miss? You
2:32:13
know, I know there was a women's tag match because I wanted
2:32:16
to talk to you about that. I don't even remember there was
2:32:18
a three-way. I think I skipped this one. Well,
2:32:20
there you go. Because
2:32:22
the world title was on the line
2:32:24
next with Damien
2:32:26
Priest defending this prestigious
2:32:29
and title
2:32:31
with this long history against Jey
2:32:33
Uso. And
2:32:37
again, they lucked into
2:32:39
something here with this crowd. I
2:32:43
don't care whether anybody ever watches
2:32:45
this match again. This
2:32:48
was incredible footage
2:32:50
that you could not buy
2:32:52
or pay for or manufacture
2:32:55
for every Jey Uso package they do
2:32:57
until the end of time. The
2:33:02
entrance was amazing. Were those
2:33:04
all cell phone lights that
2:33:07
they were bobbing up and down, the lights on
2:33:09
their cell phones? I would think so, yeah. If
2:33:13
you didn't see this, folks, the whole
2:33:15
building turned their cell
2:33:17
phone lights on. They're playing Jey's music,
2:33:21
rap music, whatever the fuck. But
2:33:23
they're bobbing up and down with the
2:33:27
cell phone lights and the people waving their
2:33:29
arms and they're yeeting. And
2:33:32
Jey comes down all the way from the
2:33:34
cheap seats up at the top, all the
2:33:36
way through the crowd and
2:33:38
the people are loving him and
2:33:40
the whole place is shaking. The
2:33:45
hard camera up in the stands is shaking with
2:33:47
this reaction going on. And
2:33:50
that's why I'm saying whatever
2:33:52
else that happened from this match, they
2:33:55
got footage that they couldn't have gotten
2:33:57
under any other circumstance that makes him
2:33:59
look like the biggest star in the fucking
2:34:01
business. That entrance
2:34:03
was, you couldn't replicate that
2:34:06
if you tried, could you? No.
2:34:10
And again, it's one of those things. We're
2:34:12
not big fans of him in the ring, but
2:34:15
he's super over with them, his catch
2:34:18
phrases, and again, a special crowd. But
2:34:21
that was a really special entrance. And
2:34:24
then the bell rang. It
2:34:28
wasn't as bad as WrestleMania because you didn't
2:34:30
have, you didn't
2:34:32
have a Uso opposing Uso
2:34:35
where two guys who's, who
2:34:38
work very similarly and both of them
2:34:40
are kind of sloppy, we're opposing each
2:34:42
other priest is
2:34:44
good. And priest is, he looks
2:34:46
great. He's tanning. He's being aggressive.
2:34:50
You can tell he really wants this to work
2:34:52
the world title of blah, blah, blah. He
2:34:55
might be trying to stop and lead
2:34:57
the people a little bit too often.
2:35:00
And by lead the people, I mean, will you stop and you
2:35:02
give them the dirty look or you stop and you give them
2:35:04
the gesture or you stop me do whatever. I'm
2:35:07
not saying he shouldn't do it. He was, he
2:35:09
did a plethora. That's our word
2:35:11
of the day of those. But
2:35:14
it's nowhere near JU
2:35:16
so has gotten both too hot
2:35:18
doggy and too sloppy at the
2:35:20
same time. He's
2:35:22
like one of
2:35:24
these skateboard guys that only hits half of his
2:35:26
tricks and then takes a bow after all of
2:35:29
them. Do you know what I mean? It
2:35:32
this, it
2:35:34
is his work is not, you
2:35:37
know, amazing enough that he can do all this
2:35:39
hot dog and bullshit and get away with it.
2:35:42
In my opinion for long, I
2:35:44
had worked in Leon, but I'm not sure
2:35:46
that it won't wear, wear thin on people.
2:35:48
That's what I'm saying. I
2:35:52
don't know. To me, the other problem is,
2:35:54
and I've always liked
2:35:56
them, but specifically here, whether
2:35:58
It was just the whole presentation. The
2:36:00
outfit in. Weather. Was that
2:36:02
match? whenever? was? Damien.
2:36:04
Freeze doesn't feel like a world champion the Me yet.
2:36:08
Will. Lead Subprime. you can tell least
2:36:10
try in. These. Putting everything
2:36:12
into it. but. I'm
2:36:15
it. You know again? It
2:36:17
is they made the built up
2:36:19
for says. And
2:36:21
then says gets beat but drew but
2:36:24
here this guy caches and remember who
2:36:26
was a there's been some famous. Care.
2:36:29
She ends from people that you would
2:36:31
have never believed. Would
2:36:33
have been the world champion and they weren't for
2:36:35
very long. So this is not like. He.
2:36:38
Didn't accommodate a long quest by
2:36:40
win this thing fair and square
2:36:42
in a big advertised match. It's
2:36:44
a. It's. Not. It's.
2:36:48
Not conducive to make him people think
2:36:50
that he's the world champion. Buddies.
2:36:53
Try and. A
2:36:55
different of suffragists he says and Betty
2:36:57
work the Kentucky Derby. Yes,
2:37:00
And somebody on social media said and I
2:37:02
agree. As a Louisville native, It's.
2:37:05
An amazing accomplishment! Would you can say
2:37:07
that Becky Lynch had the ugliest outfitted
2:37:09
the Kentucky Derby? She.
2:37:12
Looked like she was in a fucking can. A
2:37:14
biscuits that had popped in half. Well.
2:37:16
Everyone was talking about it, but also
2:37:18
Seth Rollins shades who knew they had
2:37:20
norton? Emphasis as fast as.
2:37:25
No, Not that. Ed Norton. The other Ed Norton.
2:37:27
Ah, but as nobody and I didn't see
2:37:30
the clip of him walking. As
2:37:33
so we can tell how good he was Walk and
2:37:35
I just saw the clip of them standing there. Did.
2:37:38
Anybody get a walking of of
2:37:40
appraisal? Ah,
2:37:43
Know. In. Less they had
2:37:45
a car, he did some fuck and walk
2:37:47
and Churchill downs his goddamn huge and. I
2:37:50
know they were. Guess they probably get driven and
2:37:52
but you know that. The. Neighborhood
2:37:54
around Churchill Downs is not.
2:37:57
What? You would call posh to
2:37:59
say. The least. And.
2:38:01
Some of those people that have houses and little
2:38:04
yards. Their make as much money you derby
2:38:06
weekend as they do all year by charging people
2:38:08
one hundred bucks, a car to park and
2:38:10
her fucking yard. Is
2:38:13
an amazing goddamn. Lay
2:38:15
out to see where there's cars in
2:38:17
every. Alley yard, patch
2:38:20
of grass, nook and cranny.
2:38:22
whatever. They. Take it
2:38:24
quite seriously out there. maybe how to
2:38:26
do Wrestlemania as at Churchill Down some
2:38:28
year? That. They
2:38:30
are one hundred and fifty six thousand for
2:38:32
a horse race. And with
2:38:35
the infield would shares they could do. Rude.
2:38:38
North Korea Levels Hundred and eighty hundred,
2:38:40
ninety thousand. Mom.
2:38:42
Apart and. I'll. Open
2:38:44
up the castle. Castle.
2:38:47
Grounds Parking: Five thousand dollars a
2:38:49
car. We
2:38:51
got three acres. Take your pick, get her early to
2:38:53
be close to the gate. Is not the on the
2:38:55
this mass. Yes, If it were
2:38:57
was it no no it's not. They did
2:39:00
a bunch of stuff. With.
2:39:04
What? They did was they did a bunch of
2:39:07
stuff. At Jd, Mcdonnell
2:39:09
got involved. And. Priest a
2:39:11
happy about that you know was handle his
2:39:13
own business. But. Anyway, Jd
2:39:15
put priestess foot on the ropes
2:39:17
and in. Uso dove on
2:39:20
Jd and speared Fan, but Priest crotch
2:39:22
J on the top rope and choke
2:39:24
slammed him off the top. One two
2:39:26
three, And in fan
2:39:28
and Jd got back on jay but priest
2:39:30
pushed him off and bitch to mountain said.
2:39:34
There. Will be none of this. Is.
2:39:37
It's not fair to not need your help.
2:39:39
As. Would say. Whether.
2:39:41
Or not a half and even he needs to be a
2:39:43
baby face were no. Compiling.
2:39:47
The Rules. No actually I
2:39:49
would. I would hope they would put the
2:39:51
of they would have been putting more he'll
2:39:53
heat on him a little bit instead of
2:39:55
having. I'm still play with children since real
2:39:58
has gone and Dominic is gone. Why
2:40:01
not let Finn and JD do whatever
2:40:04
they need to do and let Damian
2:40:06
Priest be a single top heel champion
2:40:10
before we go turning him? The
2:40:14
more over you are as a heel, the more over
2:40:16
you are when you become a babyface or vice versa.
2:40:20
I think he had been minimized
2:40:22
or subliminalized over the past few months
2:40:25
with all the other bigger stars and
2:40:27
more exciting things that
2:40:29
were going on in the dilution of
2:40:31
the Judgment Day to a goddamn social
2:40:33
club with spooky lighting. And
2:40:36
they ought to concentrate more on letting
2:40:39
him run with his title before they switch him
2:40:41
out. Well now we want people to like him.
2:40:44
He stands up for himself. Whatever. I
2:40:47
don't know. What do you think
2:40:49
the odds are he's going to be an
2:40:51
official full-fledged babyface sooner or later? What's
2:40:54
the over or under? I
2:40:57
think it will be over if
2:41:00
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2:41:02
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2:44:43
according to... Fred's announcement. You
2:44:46
know, is that a real motherfucker? Fred?
2:44:49
Yeah. Yeah. He's
2:44:51
got to be an artificially... He's a hard-working
2:44:53
man. He's a hard-working guy. He's got a
2:44:56
family... No. He's
2:44:58
an owl voice, artificially-intelligenced
2:45:00
voice. He
2:45:02
doesn't have any human emotion in that
2:45:05
voice. There's no gravel in that. There's
2:45:07
no sorrow. There's no heartache. He's never
2:45:09
experienced love and anger
2:45:11
and fear. You can
2:45:14
tell in the voice that he doesn't have there.
2:45:16
That's a fake voice. Well,
2:45:19
whether real or fake is concerned for
2:45:21
you, the struggling gambler out there... He's not concerned
2:45:23
for me. He doesn't give a shit about me.
2:45:25
Not you. The struggling gambler out there, I think.
2:45:29
Well, if he doesn't give a shit about me, why
2:45:31
should he give a shit about them? All
2:45:35
right. Well... You know what else
2:45:37
I gave a shit about? The next match. Because
2:45:42
the next match was for the
2:45:44
women's tag team title with Oscar
2:45:46
and Carrie against Jade and Bianca.
2:45:50
And I am fascinated
2:45:52
with how that they are pushing Jade
2:45:55
Cargill, how that they're getting her over, how
2:45:57
they're hiding the weaknesses, accentuating the... strengths, etc.
2:45:59
And I wanted to see the next chapter
2:46:01
in that, so I did pay 80% of
2:46:05
attention to this match. Did
2:46:08
you watch this match? I
2:46:10
certainly did. I wanted to see how Jade
2:46:12
was gonna do in there. I'm a fan
2:46:14
of Bianca's. I'm a big fan of the Kabuki
2:46:16
Warriors. They're so committed to their act, and
2:46:19
I call it that because it's an act for them, that
2:46:21
they never break. And
2:46:23
in this specific match, I
2:46:25
thought Kairi Sane was gonna break in half
2:46:28
a few times. Well, and
2:46:30
I think that's why they gave them to
2:46:33
Jade for opponents, because they're so small she
2:46:35
can just pick them up and just throw
2:46:38
them away. Well, that finish, I want
2:46:40
you to talk about the finish. Wow.
2:46:42
Well, they've got something with
2:46:45
Jade Cargill and Bianca Belair.
2:46:47
Are they... What
2:46:51
we have never had in women's
2:46:53
wrestling are they
2:46:55
the road warriors of women's
2:46:57
tag teams? They
2:47:01
look fucking great. They're
2:47:04
wearing matching colors, even though the outfits are
2:47:06
different, but they're wearing matching colors. They
2:47:09
look great together. Between
2:47:12
Bianca being jacked up through the arms
2:47:14
and Jade being bigger than everybody, they
2:47:17
can throw these girls around. They
2:47:20
can be physically dominant. And
2:47:24
I like Bianca better when she's with
2:47:26
Jade because I've told you her
2:47:29
entrance, the skipping and
2:47:31
the twirling the hair and the smiling
2:47:34
and the... it's off-putting to
2:47:36
me. I hate the music, the whole
2:47:38
I hate Bianca Belair's entrance. I
2:47:41
love Jade Cargill's
2:47:43
entrance. She looks like a superhero.
2:47:46
She looks like a fucking star.
2:47:49
The camera angles, the pose, the whole nine
2:47:51
yards, the music. The category of the thing,
2:47:53
the music. Yeah, great music. And
2:47:56
now they look good together because they're
2:47:58
wearing the matching colors. And they've got kind
2:48:00
of a team motif going
2:48:02
on and Bianca's
2:48:05
work in the ring is definitely
2:48:07
better than Jade's. So Jade
2:48:10
helps me like the look of the team and
2:48:12
Bianca helps me like the work of the team.
2:48:16
And so I think the sum
2:48:18
of the parts is greater than
2:48:20
the whole, or we're not talking
2:48:22
about Nia Jax now, now though, but
2:48:24
so we'll leave the whole alone. Um,
2:48:28
and they, they had a tag
2:48:30
match where they got a long
2:48:32
heat on Bianca, but she was
2:48:34
fighting for the tag, selling big
2:48:36
fighting for the tag and finally
2:48:38
hit it. And
2:48:40
then Jade comes in and you
2:48:43
can tell that they have again, carefully
2:48:47
chosen and
2:48:49
or prepped what Jade is going to do. And
2:48:52
she nailed a number
2:48:55
of things and then the heels got on
2:48:57
her and start double teaming the shit out
2:48:59
of her with kicks. And
2:49:02
that's where I thought that either
2:49:05
the participants or even the producer, whoever
2:49:07
laid this out, Jade
2:49:09
is not smooth enough as
2:49:12
a worker that she needs to be taking
2:49:15
these multiple kicks where you, Oh, I kick you
2:49:17
here and you bend over and I kick you
2:49:19
in the face. You stand up straight and I
2:49:21
kick you here and you jump down
2:49:23
and turn around. You know what I'm saying? Putting
2:49:26
yourself in position accidentally by being
2:49:28
kicked back and forth looked
2:49:31
a little awkward and then
2:49:33
they got lost and
2:49:36
you could, it was Jade that was lost and you
2:49:38
could tell, but finally
2:49:40
the heels got it back because they're the
2:49:44
they're the experienced veterans in
2:49:46
this and they
2:49:48
got the double arm bars so that
2:49:50
the baby faces could do the double
2:49:53
modified gosh lifts, which you
2:49:55
don't see a lot of the women doing. And
2:49:59
anyway, boom, boom, boom. It
2:50:02
jade gave Carrie
2:50:06
her finish, which
2:50:08
was, I don't
2:50:12
even, I can't remember the exact chain
2:50:15
of events, but she lifted
2:50:17
her up upside down, threw
2:50:20
her up on her shoulders, spun her
2:50:22
around, threw her up in
2:50:24
the air, caught her by the arms, and
2:50:26
then gave her the fucking face plant like
2:50:28
Beth Phoenix used to use, boom. And
2:50:32
I love that was, you know, the
2:50:34
poor girl only weighed a hundred pounds,
2:50:36
but still that was some coordination. And
2:50:40
then Bianca hit her finish on the
2:50:43
other girl on top of the first girl and
2:50:45
one, two, three, and
2:50:47
we got new champions that they need to be
2:50:49
the champions. They need to have the belts. They
2:50:52
need to keep coming out and looking like the
2:50:54
super team. And
2:50:58
except for, you know, what was it a
2:51:00
minute there when they got lost and jade
2:51:02
wasn't sure what to do and you could
2:51:04
kind of tell if you were looking. They've
2:51:07
still, they've made her look like a million
2:51:09
dollars past couple months, where she was in
2:51:11
AEW for two years. And it's
2:51:13
kind of like the rib like, Oh, here comes
2:51:16
Jane again. Not
2:51:18
to compare Bianca Belair to Barry Windham.
2:51:21
But just using her as an example here or using him
2:51:24
as an example here. And I think Bianca Belair is
2:51:26
fantastic, but
2:51:28
I think that's a better comparison. Not
2:51:31
the road warriors, the Luger
2:51:33
and Windham. Okay.
2:51:36
Okay. You know, Jade's more like
2:51:38
early Luger. You
2:51:40
put her with these people, hope she learned something, hope
2:51:42
she learns how to do a match, how to think
2:51:44
about a match, but
2:51:46
you put her in there with someone who could work, someone
2:51:48
who could really work, work circles around
2:51:50
most of the women on the roster. So
2:51:53
I think that's more the way I see it
2:51:55
than the road warriors. Well, I
2:51:57
was looking for the big dominant, all they need.
2:52:00
spiked shoulder pads and maybe who's
2:52:02
going to have the mohawk, Bianca
2:52:04
or Jade? No
2:52:07
takers. No takers, no takers.
2:52:11
Well, and we're not even talking about him, but yeah.
2:52:14
So I liked that team. I'm interested to see
2:52:16
what's going on there. And
2:52:19
then we came to the
2:52:21
main event of the evening for the WWE.
2:52:25
Well, what is the title
2:52:27
now? The undisputed? Where
2:52:30
is it? The undisputed WWE champion or the
2:52:32
undisputed world? No, the other guy's the world
2:52:34
champion. Let me ask you
2:52:36
this. If Damien Priest says he's the world
2:52:38
champion, doesn't that mean he's disputing that Cody
2:52:41
is the fucking undisputed champion?
2:52:44
Cody was the universal
2:52:47
champion. But they, they quit
2:52:49
saying that. Right. Is
2:52:53
it who's WWE? Which one of
2:52:55
them is just not world, no
2:52:57
actual body, just WWE? It
2:53:00
may well, it's Cody. Cause the world
2:53:02
title is the one that Damien
2:53:04
Priest won from Drew McIntyre after he
2:53:07
beat Seth and only held it five
2:53:09
minutes and 46 seconds. But the point
2:53:11
of that we've been trying
2:53:13
to drive home about goddamn, just have one
2:53:15
champion, here's another illustration.
2:53:19
What do you call the undisputed champion? Well,
2:53:22
cause what do you mean? What do you call the
2:53:25
undisputed champion? We call him the
2:53:27
world champion. Well, the other guy's the world champion. Isn't
2:53:30
that guy disputing the fucking other guy
2:53:32
being the undisputed champion? Who's
2:53:35
disputing who here? All
2:53:38
right. After
2:53:41
AJ entered the
2:53:44
ring before the Cody even started,
2:53:46
the fans were just singing at
2:53:49
the top of their lungs. And dancing, their
2:53:51
hands were going. A lot
2:53:53
of movement. It was, it was
2:53:55
like a good goddamn jazz hands and the
2:53:58
fucking, in the fun house mirror, everything. was
2:54:00
shaking and the building was shaking and
2:54:03
they were shaking, snapping
2:54:05
their fingers. They
2:54:08
were moving round and round
2:54:12
and they were singing. And
2:54:14
then when Cody, when
2:54:16
his music hits and he makes
2:54:18
his entrance, they're singing his song
2:54:20
in the English words, right? And
2:54:24
that's where I realized at that point, if
2:54:27
the WWE says, fuck it, we're going to
2:54:29
do half of our pay-per-views now that it
2:54:31
doesn't matter what time zone they air live
2:54:34
in anymore. We do half
2:54:36
our pay-per-views around the world for crowds like
2:54:38
this. It'll pay premium fucking money and be
2:54:41
thankful for the experience. Wow,
2:54:44
that sounds swell. So
2:54:47
I mean, the whole, this
2:54:50
match was excellent is two
2:54:52
wrestlers, veterans, they're smooth, they
2:54:54
can work. They're
2:54:56
not going to do anything stupid. They're not going to
2:54:58
do anything unnecessarily
2:55:00
dangerous. Everything's dangerous and there's risk,
2:55:02
but they're professionals and they're not
2:55:04
going to do stupid shit. But
2:55:08
the crowd also helped to
2:55:10
put the match over the top two because they
2:55:12
were batshit. But
2:55:15
with Cody and
2:55:18
AJ, I'm
2:55:20
not trying to be detrimental to AJ's
2:55:22
talents when I've said that nobody really
2:55:25
wanted to see this match as a big match
2:55:27
to pay to see because everybody knows that Cody's
2:55:29
not going to lose it after he just won
2:55:32
it now that everybody's smart. That's
2:55:34
something that the guys in the days gone bad didn't
2:55:36
have to put up with.
2:55:38
You could have a challenger the next month
2:55:40
and people, oh shit, they'd get worried. Oh
2:55:43
my gosh, this guy looks tough. Now
2:55:46
everybody's smart. Okay, they're not going to change it
2:55:48
that quick. I
2:55:51
can't think of too many
2:55:53
people on the roster that Cody could
2:55:55
have a better match with and just
2:55:58
a good world. title defense against
2:56:00
a guy that's had a name and has been
2:56:03
there and et cetera. And
2:56:05
their pros and they know what they're doing. And
2:56:08
plus I actually got to see somebody take
2:56:10
a backdrop. Good
2:56:12
God. I last week
2:56:14
in a five minute segment, I saw motherfuckers
2:56:16
chop 62 times. This is
2:56:18
the first backdrop I've seen in a month and a
2:56:20
half in a wrestling show. Anyway,
2:56:23
they built it from the start. So
2:56:25
they did wrestling first and they got
2:56:28
rougher. They did some running spots and
2:56:30
then they pulled out
2:56:32
bigger bumps. And,
2:56:34
uh, you know,
2:56:36
again, you can't fault anybody's, anybody's
2:56:39
effort in it. It's and the people in
2:56:41
France loved it because it was a great
2:56:43
match and they were loving it cause they
2:56:45
were there. As we've mentioned many times at
2:56:48
one point, they started chanting fight forever.
2:56:50
Do you think Tony Khan is going
2:56:53
to take out an ad in French
2:56:55
magazines with the discount video game forum?
2:57:01
Um, I don't think there's much that could be done to
2:57:03
sell that game. If
2:57:05
only, if only some people had known well,
2:57:08
well beforehand that that game was going to
2:57:10
be a bomb way beforehand
2:57:13
and gone on tape and on record with it.
2:57:15
But nevertheless, um,
2:57:17
they went back and forth, boom, boom, boom.
2:57:21
And finally, Cody hit a super
2:57:23
Cody cutter from the top rope
2:57:26
and then hit the crossroads one,
2:57:28
two, three, again, great match. It
2:57:30
was a contest. No silliness, no bearing
2:57:33
the referee, not
2:57:36
extensive furniture
2:57:38
moving. They weren't on the
2:57:40
floor for five minutes stretches
2:57:42
because they're professionals and they have talent. They
2:57:44
can do this. They don't have to use
2:57:47
the smoke and mirrors. So people won't
2:57:49
know that they're the shits. And
2:57:53
the best part about it, at least in this, in
2:57:56
my estimation, the whole
2:57:58
pay-per-view was over in two hours. in
2:58:00
50 minutes. Brian,
2:58:02
what were your main event thoughts? Yeah, the timing
2:58:04
was good. I mean, it was only a few
2:58:06
matches. I thought
2:58:09
it was a really good main event. And to
2:58:11
me, I have a difficult time with matches where you
2:58:13
know what the outcome is going to be. You knew Cody
2:58:15
was going to win. There's no way AJ was going to
2:58:17
win the title. You need
2:58:19
something to pull you into it. And the fans
2:58:22
singing for AJ every time he had any offense
2:58:26
was incredible. It almost got me to
2:58:28
think they could do it. Could be one of
2:58:30
those Ron Garvin in Detroit moments where all of
2:58:32
a sudden the fans can't believe it. It's happened
2:58:34
for them. Despite any logic
2:58:37
or reasons of the contrary, that's exactly
2:58:39
right. It's happened in front of us
2:58:42
right here. For no good reason. Maybe
2:58:44
they have a show coming up in Chicago that they could
2:58:46
follow up on. But really good match.
2:58:48
Really, really good match. And the crowd was the
2:58:51
story. The crowd made the whole event incredible.
2:58:56
And I don't like the Saudi Arabia show so
2:58:58
much in the middle of the day beyond any
2:59:01
geopolitical reasons.
2:59:03
I don't know the crowd being... Not
2:59:05
that they're dead, because they'll
2:59:08
probably be dead if they don't cheer and boo. But
2:59:11
not that they're dead. They're probably a
2:59:13
more reserved culture that is not used to
2:59:15
whooping it up out in public over there.
2:59:17
But when you see this show in France,
2:59:19
and again, it's in the middle of the
2:59:21
day it aired here. It aired at 1230
2:59:24
or 130, whatever it was. In the middle
2:59:26
of the day, that's the kind of wrestling I could watch
2:59:28
live in the middle of the day. Something that lively. It
2:59:30
really pulls you into it. Well, and
2:59:32
remember, regardless of the time zone, the
2:59:34
Puerto Rico show, because they were so
2:59:37
fucking into it because they hadn't gotten
2:59:39
a big show. Yeah. And
2:59:41
that's where they... That was the first time we
2:59:43
could remember they had to use the small stage
2:59:46
and entrance set up to get more people in
2:59:48
there. And obviously, Vince
2:59:50
loved the pageantry. And
2:59:52
there were points in time where
2:59:55
you Needed to have the
2:59:57
big entrance and block some seats off because they
2:59:59
weren't selling any...
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