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Who still remembers Pam Perro
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for both who booked this crew
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job in Montréal, who
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has a good for a name weasel,
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dooley. Everyone knows
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this morning. Who
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managed, Bobby? Nen
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Condrey, who managed and
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laid out doctor Tom, who
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sick and tired of Kenny, olivy,
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every One nose is
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corny. Who
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took a shoot all off for the
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scaffolding. Who bled a gush
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arena white suit. Who
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said Ronnie and Carmen went up like
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the challenger. Everyone knows
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it's Cornettes
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Cornettes through
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he'll answer questions from
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you and he won
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the pony 278.
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Thank you for you. Bye. Thank
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you for you. Bye. The Thank you.
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Fuck
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you. Bye. Thank you. Fuck you.
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Hello again friends, and
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you are our friends. And welcome back to
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another edition of Jim Cornette DriveThru
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right here on another beautiful day.
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Somewhere for some of you
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But we're gonna have a beautiful show here today.
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It's been guaranteed. I'm your
1:22
host Great Brian Last. And here's
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the man guaranteeing a great show,
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Mister Jim Cornett. Wait a
1:28
minute. How how did I get involved in your
1:30
money back guarantee scheme here?
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How have I been implicated now? My
1:37
my career, my credibility, my
1:39
name, my reputation is
1:42
on that my integrity. Is
1:45
now on the line here because you
1:47
have vouch to the people 278
1:50
people for the fact that this is gonna
1:52
be a good show before we've even done it.
1:54
And you know I'm already at a handicap because
1:57
this is your show, so I can only
1:59
do so much. I
2:01
don't know if I wanna be just brought just
2:03
grouped into this goddamn warranty
2:07
that you've spread out here, that you've
2:09
perpetrated across the globe
2:11
like a blanket. Just everybody's gonna
2:13
love this show. Right, Jim? I
2:15
don't know what kind of mood are you in
2:17
today. Do we have anything entertaining
2:20
to talk about? Raw certainly didn't
2:22
help a lot. I
2:24
know a lot of people got the warm fuzz
2:26
feelings about seeing the
2:28
nostalgic superstars
2:31
of days gone by, but the
2:33
application of same left
2:36
something to be desired. We'll talk about that.
2:38
But anyway, I don't wanna be drugging on
2:40
this with you. It's what I'm trying to communicate to
2:42
you. This is entirely up. This
2:44
is your show, and it's entirely
2:46
up to you. You have not you have
2:49
not given me any reason to believe
2:51
that I should go ahead and jump in on that guarantee
2:53
that this is gonna be a great show. So
2:56
you do not guarantee it'll be a great show. I
2:58
don't guarantee it. We we hope for the
3:00
best. You we're gonna we're
3:02
gonna try. Do you guarantee you
3:04
will try your best? Well,
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I don't know now. I see you. You can't even
3:08
guarantee effort. Look at that. Don't
3:10
let you gain guarantee effort.
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The less a man makes declarative statements
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the less likely he is to be proven
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a fool in retrospect. Let's
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just feel this out and see how it goes.
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What I'm saying to you? What's your Social
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Security number? Well,
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it's four hundred dash. That's your
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fucking face. That's what it is.
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Alrighty. I'll tell you one
3:34
thing that here's something now that doesn't
3:36
happen up in New York, happened down here.
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This is not this not a funny
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story, but it's a goddamn unusual story.
3:42
It's a freak accident is what it is.
3:44
They don't have these
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up there in New York City where you're from
3:49
in Manhattan and the big apple with
3:51
the worm in it and everything, but most places
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in the country and you've traveled around the Cornette.
3:56
When you're driving down the interstate especially
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when you're not in a big downtown area, when you're
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just out in the suburbs. You're
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driving down the interstate and every
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exit they have the giant signs. For
4:08
the gas stations and the restaurants. They're
4:10
seventy five feet high. They're up on those
4:12
giant poles. They alert
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you to the fact a mile and a half two
4:16
miles away. Get off here 278
4:19
get your gas. If it's
4:21
Taco Bell or get off here to fuel
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up if it's an Exxon station or whatever
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it may
4:25
be. You've seen these
4:27
signs I'm talking about. Of
4:29
course, south of the border, if you're driving
4:31
down to Florida, and you famously you'll see
4:33
those all over the place, fireworks, in the Carolinas?
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Yes. Yes. But I mean, the the
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big the big giant, you see
4:40
signs of every description, but I'm talking
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the big ones that are like eighty feet
4:44
high with the big poles for the gas
4:46
stations and the and the restaurants and
4:48
things of that nature. These giant ones yeah, of
4:50
course. They got it. They got it. It's not just mom
4:52
and pops fireworks. Well,
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it was on the news here day before
4:58
yesterday. Because, of course,
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now it's freezing again. We're about to have a
5:02
few inches of snow, but a
5:04
few days ago, it was almost seventy
5:06
degrees. We ran severe thunderstorms, and
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the wind gust got up to sixty
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miles an hour. Down in
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Elizabethtown. Down in our friends, down
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in E Town. And there's
5:16
a Denny's restaurant down there. It may
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not be for too long. The
5:20
whole Denny's chain may be going out of business
5:22
here pretty safe. Closed a bunch of the
5:24
70s in this town anyway. We're
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we're known for our our culinary
5:30
criteria. So denny's is been run
5:32
out, but there was still there's still one down
5:34
in e town. Get it while you can. So
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apparently, this
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woman and her well, a
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woman and her husband and
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I think it was their daughter But
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these these are, like, grandparents. There's, like,
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seventy seven year old woman and her husband and
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their daughter who's probably
5:53
of almost my age or
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just driving through the
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parking lot, and to Denny's
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off the interstate down in E Town,
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And hopefully, they at
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least got their fucking
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lunch first instead of coming in for
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it because The
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high winds took the did
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the giant Denny's sign. They said
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it weighed twenty six hundred
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pounds. And
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blew it off the top of that thing.
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Oh my god. Those big poles and it
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landed on their car. And
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kill this this woman, her
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granddaughter's been on the news talking
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about it because kill this woman Her
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husband, the old man, was
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a cancer patient that had just
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apparently because I guess
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they were on their way back home to Columbia
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or some is about a hundred miles from here, what are probably
6:46
in the big city up at the hospital
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and they've just let him out to
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go home apparently where he went home and
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was in hospice care, but they it
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it injured him and he'd died
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like thirty six hours later. And
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the daughter well, they were trapped in this
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thing for forty five minutes before
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the the authorities
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could get them out of this thing. So,
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anyway, that's that's the news around here.
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Don't
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do not not only park leave your
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house. Don't have time under
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any sign of any description in
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a high win.
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Because, Ned, I gotta say, we'll
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we'll talk about him later in the program, but
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Steven Peanuts. Steven
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Peanuts. Steven Peanuts.
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If you folks down there
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are within the sound of my voice, But
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you can you believe that? It denny's
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parking lot and they're fucking forward
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and bam. The
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the the the sign wade as much
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as a midsize car and
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came from, like, seventy five feet in
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the air. So
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don't leave your house. Yeah. That's
7:54
another house. Don't leave the house.
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Can this be your show this week? I don't know how to
7:59
follow that up. Well, I'll tell you what, you
8:01
know, it's a good, I'll just get it out of the way
8:03
then. Everybody in the world
8:05
is talking about what's coming up this
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Saturday, January twenty eight at
8:09
noon eastern time around the
8:11
free world. It's, of course, The
8:14
annual Saint Valentine's Day
8:16
Massocamio celebration where
8:18
I, me, myself,
8:21
Jim Cornett, do video messages
8:23
personalized to members of
8:25
the cult to coordinate out there through the fine
8:27
folks at Cameo, and
8:29
you can go to Cameo, CAME0,
8:32
dot com slash jim you'll
8:34
see my profile
8:36
there that indicates that we will be doing this
8:38
this Saturday, or you can just go to jim
8:40
cornet dot com and
8:42
click on the cameo
8:45
button on the home page and it
8:47
will take you directly to the
8:49
foresaid place where you can
8:51
find out all about this, and more
8:53
importantly, nap on to
8:55
one of them when the time comes at noon on
8:57
Saturday because we're limiting to
8:59
about eighty And then did I
9:01
say that
9:01
eighty, lady. Hey.
9:03
Like Jerry Lewis now or Bill We're
9:06
limiting it to about eighty
9:07
Message is because that's the
9:10
amount of time that we have that week to
9:12
shoot and fulfill these, but whatever
9:14
file will give your sweetie a kiss and or a
9:16
cousin for Valentine's Day. I've said
9:18
that before, but even if
9:20
it's for you, if nobody else loves
9:22
you for Valentine's Day, I'll love
9:24
you for a fee. And
9:26
I think we've established what that means,
9:28
but no, I and and hey, maybe
9:30
it's not all maybe the because a lot of
9:32
the ladies out there they
9:34
at this time a year, they they take
9:37
advantage of these cameos and give them to
9:39
their their boyfriends or
9:41
significant others or whatever the
9:43
case that are fans of
9:46
mine. Hours even
9:48
Brian, some of them even like you. They you know,
9:50
their standards are lower. And
9:52
but in I've got to think also
9:54
that there's some guy out there,
9:56
his his lady just has a crush
9:58
on me. He's just head over heels
10:00
infatuated with me.
10:03
So, you know, it could be that way too.
10:05
And I but I can I can
10:07
say whatever is is legal? And as I
10:09
mentioned, I can make some veiled threats if
10:11
we can figure out a way to get it past the
10:13
authorities. But maybe idea I could even
10:15
sing some romantic
10:17
or seductive songs to
10:20
the intended Valentine
10:23
this year. What have you sing the
10:25
threats? I could sing
10:27
the threats. I'm
10:29
gonna come and kill you now. It
10:31
it would sound a little more palatable
10:33
if I put it to a jaunty tune about how
10:35
I was gonna rip their spleens out.
10:37
Or I could I could just pitch
10:40
a little woo. You know, I gave him
10:42
for for the ladies. So, you know, a
10:44
little jauntea Close your
10:46
eyes, spread your legs, and I'll
10:48
fertilize your legs, and I'll
10:50
send all my sperm into
10:51
you. Something like
10:54
that. I'm a Beatles fan. I've never heard that
10:56
version. Oh, I would be three. I've never
10:58
heard that version. I'll pretend
11:00
that I'm kissing the tits I've
11:02
been missing and penetrate you
11:05
in my arms and in
11:07
while you're away, I'll check
11:09
off every day, and I'll save
11:11
all my sperm for you.
11:14
All my sperm I will
11:16
give to
11:16
you. See, I can be romantic.
11:19
That can be a romantic You
11:22
only do the early material here to do
11:24
any stuff after sergeant Pepper? No.
11:26
Well, that there's also there's There's
11:28
a variety thing. I don't think I can say that
11:31
one. It's it's it involves one of the
11:33
words we can't say even on the YouTube.
11:36
But it's a later
11:36
hit. We'll talk about that off the air, but now
11:39
I'm in my head. I'm trying to figure out
11:41
what's up.
11:44
Alright. Nevertheless, that's so that's this
11:46
Saturday, the twenty eighth at jim Cornettes
11:48
By the way, of course, collectibles is
11:50
open for the lazy booking
11:52
t shirts Courtney had face t shirts.
11:54
The behind the curtain graphic novel, the
11:56
final remaining pink
11:58
and red raw debut variant action
12:01
figures, how they were at fifty or
12:03
sixty or thereabouts. So we're almost ready to
12:05
close that one down folks. And
12:07
so much more It's always
12:09
there awaiting you. The feather bottoms
12:11
ultra careful handling system. What more can
12:13
I say? Back to you,
12:15
Brian. Back
12:16
to me, Swamy's barking at the FedEx
12:18
man who's outside right
12:20
now. So I apologize for any of
12:22
that noise you hear in the background. I
12:25
find that that Harley is more
12:27
vehement with her
12:29
barking when when a
12:31
when a UPS FedEx, mailman, whoever
12:33
is coming up and actually bringing something
12:35
in their hand with them. Because
12:37
she she sits in front of the front
12:39
door. All almost all day
12:42
long and stares out and keeps an eye on
12:44
the road. If somebody cars
12:46
driving up and down the
12:47
road, she won't bark. But if somebody
12:49
pulls into the driveway, she'll
12:51
bark. If somebody on
12:53
foot even walks past
12:55
the Down the road
12:57
past the property, she will bark.
12:59
But if somebody brings something in
13:01
their hand, she'll go back.
13:03
He will bark at any car that pulls to the front of
13:05
this house that isn't one of ours, which is the amazing
13:07
part of it. So I'm like, does he recognize Well,
13:09
he recognizes well, yeah. What is he
13:12
car fanatic or whatever? But if
13:14
I pull up to the front of the house, to come in
13:16
the house, he won't bark. If
13:18
the mailman, the FedEx man, the UPS man,
13:20
the morons from Laser Ship, whoever it may
13:22
be. If they come to the House, they'll go nuts.
13:26
Well, maybe there's something to that
13:28
then. Was it Rocky raccoon? I'm dying to know which song
13:30
was the filthy song. I'm gonna keep dancing.
13:32
Yeah. It was a Rocky raccoon. No,
13:35
it was. Okay. Alright. Well,
13:37
We have a lot of things to talk about and we should
13:39
let it
13:39
be, was it let it
13:40
be? We should let it
13:43
be here on the show and
13:45
talk about The latest
13:47
wrestling story, the latest wrestling news.
13:49
That's actually another Harley piece on
13:51
letter p. Letter p.
13:53
Letter p e, letter p.
13:56
Her letter is a full
13:58
one letter p e,
14:01
letter p. Give any other
14:03
Beatles songs that are clean
14:05
that you can do on your hair. You should
14:07
Say you're the one that would
14:10
that guarantee out
14:11
pal, and here we are. We're not even into it
14:13
yet. You do that
14:14
right now. I I feel like I'm on me. I'm Mary
14:16
the k. I don't know what to do right now.
14:18
But it's better than being on the
14:20
air with Stan the big k Kawowski. That's
14:24
right. Well, I guess I never thought of him as
14:26
a DJ. Stan Lane is more of
14:28
a DJ, and Raw can use a
14:30
DJ because the commentators suck.
14:32
But let's talk about Monday
14:34
night Raw, Raw thirty, or as
14:37
some may unfortunately have put into their
14:39
search browser raw XXX
14:41
and who knows what comes up at that point?
14:43
For RAW thirty, Jim. Oh, my god.
14:45
That's right. You know, that could be
14:48
misconscrewed. RAW
14:50
x x. That was the name of the video. I saw
14:53
RAW x exact's miscrews. Congrewed.
14:59
Well, our Pilgrim. I'll say one thing
15:01
about it. Like you said the commentators
15:03
I don't think James Earl Jones could have narrated
15:05
this son of a bitch. And when I say
15:07
the commentator suck, let me be a little
15:09
more clear about it. I really The
15:11
same thing about it. Yeah. I'll be specific. Corey
15:14
Graves isn't the problem.
15:16
And I've not been the biggest fan of his in the
15:18
past, and he goes way too heavy into
15:20
the corporate speak, especially when Vince was
15:22
more active in the past? He's
15:25
not the problem. And he talks in a
15:27
voice like this, he's not the problem.
15:29
The other guy who sounds
15:31
like he's worried and he's out of breath
15:33
and he's so afraid he's gonna be sent
15:35
home. That's the problem. They
15:37
don't gel well together because of that he
15:39
does. Yes. That kid looks
15:41
like the new kid in
15:43
school that's being bullied and is afraid
15:45
to speak up out loud. He's
15:48
not confident yet. And
15:50
and the voice also, it does it. And, you
15:52
know, and and our friends across the pond
15:54
know that I love the accents.
15:57
But he doesn't sound
15:59
like, you know,
16:01
Lawrence Olivier, he's he
16:03
sounds more like, you know, fucking
16:06
Oh, goddamn. I could have done a great
16:08
civil deal on the young ones. No. So
16:10
if I could remember that it the
16:13
goddamn kid's name that played
16:16
Oliver, in Oliver, in the musical,
16:18
nineteen sixty. Oh, Jack Wilde
16:20
was not Oliver. He was
16:22
He was
16:23
faithful dodger. The artful dodger.
16:26
That's right. Well, nevertheless,
16:28
whatever that little fucking puny kid's
16:30
name was after I've already blown it. Alright.
16:33
And only six people would have got the
16:35
fucking reference anyway, but there you go.
16:38
So they started it off
16:40
and we
16:42
said that whatever Hoe
16:44
Hogan does, he's not gonna get any on him. Right?
16:46
He's not gonna be humiliated. He's
16:48
not gonna be shown in
16:50
any disrespectful or bad
16:52
light or asked or
16:54
expected to do anything that he can't
16:56
do. But goddamn
16:58
it. If they if they didn't give him a
17:00
bad microphone, he
17:03
he started the whole thing before even the, you
17:05
know, the open comes real
17:08
American, and here comes Ho, Hogan, and Jimmy
17:10
Hart. And bless Jimmy
17:12
Hart's little pee pick and
17:14
heart. He will be eighty
17:16
this year or next, I've lost track.
17:18
And did you he was doing the cheerleading
17:20
and hopping around. I hope I
17:23
make it. I hope I'm not
17:25
a fucking head in a jar like
17:27
on futurama by the time I'm eighty and
17:29
look at Jimmy. He moves better than
17:31
Hogan does. But anyway,
17:34
Hogan did the promo from the
17:36
entranceway. And
17:38
besides his the
17:40
mic would cut out and cut out a
17:42
couple of times, just missed a couple of
17:44
words, and then they ranny manure
17:46
when and sent him a gun. He didn't
17:49
say fuck on live TV
17:51
over that. It's almost
17:53
like he knew better than to
17:55
do that. But he gave the raw
17:57
raw raw thirty speech and did you
17:59
know, what's she gonna do? And
18:02
they played the music, and some
18:05
more. And that was
18:07
it. And It
18:10
wasn't bad because you got to see 278
18:13
Hogan and Jimmy Hart, but
18:16
it didn't set high
18:18
expectations for you
18:20
know, see, that's part of
18:22
the thing is when they advertise these
18:25
names especially so
18:28
many of them, and we mentioned this on
18:30
last week's experience.
18:33
Is there ain't enough time for all of
18:35
them to do anything pithy.
18:37
And but at the
18:39
same time, people in their minds, they
18:41
expect they're going, 000, COVID. Oh, shit.
18:43
And he comes out. He talks for sixty seconds
18:45
and thanks everybody for coming and you
18:47
never see him again. Is that a
18:49
let down whether it's live or
18:51
the live audience or the
18:54
Viewing audience on TV or are they
18:56
just happy, well, he's there.
18:58
What do you
18:59
think? I don't know. It
19:02
goes with Hogan, but it goes with the whole general conversation about
19:04
the proper way to use legends.
19:06
In wrestling, his wrestling uses them the way
19:08
no one
19:08
else, and sports uses
19:11
them, but
19:11
I mean, there
19:12
aren't too many great examples of legends returning
19:14
to TV shows, but usually if someone returns
19:16
to a TV show, it's
19:17
not to just
19:18
be beaten down or Or
19:21
shown to look
19:21
bad. With Hogan specifically,
19:24
there was something incredibly humorous
19:26
about him talking without the mic picking anything up
19:28
and not realizing it. Jimmy Hart's out
19:31
there. I got cheerleader. No. In in in
19:33
all honesty, no, I've been there
19:35
because I've been in a in a bunch of
19:37
low budget fucking television
19:39
production
19:39
situations. You can't tell
19:42
because unless when
19:44
you're in a big building like that,
19:47
Even a good PA system, it takes
19:49
you a second because you're
19:51
hearing yourself obviously and people aren't
19:53
making noise and you are assuming
19:57
that you're going out because you've you've heard
19:59
yourself go out so as you're talking,
20:02
it's easy to go a few words without
20:04
realizing that
20:05
they're not hearing you.
20:07
But beyond that, you know, was Holcogen doing an
20:09
intro? He says he was there from the very beginning. I mean, he
20:11
was there for a few months after
20:13
the show kicked off, and that was when people started hearing me. He
20:15
was gone for almost ten years, and
20:17
then he just disappeared after
20:20
the photographer's flash. So
20:22
I really don't know what to say about that. When it comes to the
20:25
use of legends,
20:28
do you think I
20:30
mean, we've seen different things. Like, when
20:33
Slandbury first started,
20:35
they would do something cool. They would introduce
20:37
everyone. Everyone would come out on the stage by
20:39
one and They introduce all the legends and then
20:41
you get a few legends matches and a few interviews
20:43
of legends and dispersed throughout
20:46
the show. I remember they did an all
20:48
star game I think was ninety nine
20:50
where before the game they had the greatest living
20:52
baseball players alive on
20:54
the field. Introduced and was an
20:56
incredible spectacle. Do
20:57
you think, if you bring a hug, hug, hug,
20:59
and back, if you bring a DX back, if
21:02
you bring Anyone, Rick flare?
21:03
They have to be incorporated in
21:06
what's happening on the show? Or
21:08
do you think People would
21:11
support and watch a
21:13
wrestling legend show
21:15
one week, not a pay per view, but one week
21:17
in the spot of a raw or something.
21:20
Where you have fifty
21:22
legends, but they're introduced, they're given time,
21:24
they're given videos to show their career.
21:26
Do you think There's a way other
21:28
than the way they're using legends, use legends, and you
21:30
think there's a respectable way
21:32
where instead of Hong Kong coming out there like
21:34
that, Hong Kong wears a suit. And he's
21:36
introduced and people clap any waves. Other
21:38
than, like, the hall of fame, is there a way
21:40
to maybe make it so it's not
21:41
this? I mean, because it's always this.
21:43
You know, someone said the other day, the FTR
21:46
thing where they got beaten down by DX,
21:48
that was Route twenty five. That means
21:50
the legends thing we saw in between where
21:52
the big show and Mark Henry got sent
21:54
off. That was just a random legend show, but it's
21:57
always the same legends doing the same things and
21:59
the same kind of skits. And I don't think
22:01
it works. All of
22:04
the above. You
22:07
know, Hogan's such a big
22:09
personality that And
22:12
also, to be honest, he's
22:14
he can only do him.
22:19
Right? He can't when
22:22
he's hogging on he's the disingenuous,
22:26
you know, and that's the right brother type of
22:28
thing. He can't
22:30
he never evolved in his promo to
22:32
the next generation where
22:34
got out of the, say your prayers and take your
22:37
vitamins and blah blah blah and
22:39
can actually have
22:42
a goddamn 278 to toe
22:44
argument back and forth was
22:46
somebody like a fucking Owens
22:48
that's quick and could shred him if he was
22:50
allowed to. Right? So
22:52
Hogan's a big personality and
22:54
you gotta kinda do the Hogan
22:57
stuff. But with
22:59
some, again, some
23:01
legends, should
23:03
be there. Why can't you with with Hogan,
23:05
if you don't wanna interact him with
23:07
any of the current guys, they do such
23:10
great packages. Do a
23:12
package on
23:14
this thirty, you know, thirty because they own all the footage now.
23:17
WCW thirty years of hoe
23:19
kogan's transformation from the
23:21
first raw show he was onward because he was
23:23
only there for a couple months that they're
23:25
blah blah blah or whatever
23:27
and can show it on the
23:29
screen and the viewers can
23:31
see it and then let him come out do the
23:33
full blown thing in the ring or maybe his
23:35
hip was bad, he couldn't get in the
23:37
ring. That seemed to be possibly a
23:39
recurring theme. And, you know, in
23:41
letting him be himself, that's not necessarily
23:43
that bad. But
23:46
with some of the other legends, instead
23:49
of my rotunda.
23:52
Being IRS and
23:54
coming in and confiscating the poker
23:56
game money for
23:59
and everybody knows it's bullshit anyway. And
24:01
and yet, and IRS was
24:03
his WWF gimmick,
24:06
but Why not
24:08
do an IRS package for
24:10
sixty seconds? And
24:13
then show him sitting at ringside
24:15
as Mike Rottonda
24:17
there because now he's
24:19
the goddamn, what is he
24:21
to bray wired? I've forgotten their family is
24:23
the father. Brie. He's Brie Wyatt's father.
24:28
So, honey, People
24:31
know that because they're playing
24:33
out of the Internet crowd and
24:35
let LA Night come down there
24:37
and jerk Bray Wyatt's father over the
24:39
fucking rail and smagging around or
24:42
something to instead
24:44
of that what got which we'll
24:46
talk about later. Or
24:48
with there was
24:50
Medusa there playing poker.
24:53
You know, why couldn't she interact with
24:55
one of the modern
24:57
heal women even if
25:00
it's verbally to
25:02
try to enhance
25:05
something that they're doing instead of she's a
25:07
former women's champion and
25:09
groundbreaking trail blazer and and her
25:11
part was to play poker in
25:13
the back in pre
25:13
tapes. See, that's that's
25:16
the thing instead of using a Medusa or a
25:18
Linger blaze in this case. As
25:20
a background player. If they had put together a
25:22
two minute video, explaining everything
25:24
you just said, showing clips from
25:27
WWE,
25:28
they probably wouldn't license anything from Japan
25:30
for this. And then
25:33
introducing her to the crowd without
25:35
it being a joke Don't you think people would
25:37
stand up in a plaza? Oh, yeah. And then and then
25:39
she could also say to one of
25:41
these whiny modern girls,
25:43
the heels, to
25:45
put her at her place, oh, you
25:47
think you've got it so hard and
25:49
blah blah blah. They have a performance
25:51
center and you have You're being flown
25:53
everywhere and you're on
25:55
national television when and there's all
25:57
kinds of women and you have all kinds
25:59
of opportunities. 278 know,
26:01
when back in my day, when I
26:03
was the women's champion in the AWA, the
26:06
women's roster was two of
26:08
us. And we had to ride in a fucking van
26:10
with goddamn mad dog, Basham, pissing
26:12
in a jar or whatever. Right?
26:15
And just something
26:18
like that. As we'll go through, maybe we'll come
26:20
up with some ideas as we go through and mention
26:22
some of these names. But
26:24
nevertheless,
26:24
Hey, Jim. Before we move on, I actually wanna stop you
26:27
with some breaking news, and it's about something we
26:29
were gonna talk about later in a show, but this is
26:31
such a Interesting development that I wanna
26:33
stop the show now and talk to you about it.
26:35
Okay? A tweet has gone
26:37
out from Tony Little
26:39
less than twenty minutes ago as we are
26:42
recording. Tomorrow, January
26:44
twenty fifth, Lexington,
26:46
Kentucky, Live on TBS.
26:48
Eight PM eastern, seven
26:51
PM central, Wednesday
26:53
night, AEW dynamite, Mark
26:57
Briscoe versus Jay lethal. Whoa.
27:00
Requested by both men to
27:02
celebrate the life and legacy of
27:04
the late great Jay Briscoe on his thirty ninth
27:06
birthday, his longtime friend and
27:08
rival Jay lethal versus
27:10
his brother, Mark Briscoe, and
27:12
Dave Melcher is reporting. AEW has
27:15
confirmed Warner Bros. Discovery changed its
27:17
policy on Mark
27:19
Briscoe. He's allowed to appear
27:21
going forward I said we were gonna talk about
27:23
this later. Word was going
27:25
around as of this morning. That
27:27
Mark Briscoe was not allowed on
27:29
dynamite and it has been reversed. And
27:32
about
27:32
god damn time.
27:34
And do
27:38
you think that
27:39
because that could have been the final straw
27:41
when because that's what Uncle
27:44
Dave had reported and several
27:46
other Fairly prominent sites, not
27:48
just, you know, gossip sites,
27:50
had reported that still
27:54
Mark Briscoe wasn't gonna be
27:56
allowed to be on the programming who had
27:58
he had said and done absolutely nothing.
28:02
And I saw a bunch of tweets when I got up
28:04
this morning from people tagging the
28:06
various Warner Brother
28:09
TBS accounts and And by
28:11
the way, we mentioned on the experience,
28:14
I had well, I've now had
28:16
dozens and dozens of people either tweet
28:18
or email a name
28:20
of a saying, that's the no good son
28:22
of a bitch. And, of course, it's
28:24
all different names because they have
28:27
everybody's in charge of some kind of
28:29
something over there at that company. But
28:31
do you think they finally
28:33
got tired of Fielding all
28:35
these angry tweets from wrestling
28:37
fans and then I assume emails
28:39
and whoever has done whatever
28:41
else they've done Well, Dave is now reporting.
28:43
It just went out. AEW is also
28:46
cleared to honor Jay on the show
28:48
tomorrow night. Boom. There
28:50
you go.
28:50
So the people
28:53
in this case have spoken.
28:55
I bet you that
28:58
they saw the level of animosity
29:00
that they were getting in somebody
29:03
somewhere reversed a decision because they
29:05
probably didn't wanna be didn't want it to go on any
29:07
longer because they'd narrow it down at at
29:09
some point to exactly who
29:11
this was and what their name
29:12
was. Maybe they also saw the level
29:15
of love. That everyone was
29:17
showing the family and on
29:19
the way to raise money for the
29:21
family and the local community. I mean, it became a
29:23
big story and Yeah. Everyone. I
29:25
mean, it's been universal love from
29:27
everyone. And and maybe
29:29
at that point they were ashamed of
29:31
themselves as they should be. Well,
29:34
that's good. And and because I even saw people
29:37
tweeting, demanding, or challenging
29:40
them the Warner Bros. Discovery people
29:42
contribute to the
29:45
fundraiser for Jay's family since
29:48
They wouldn't contribute to anything else while
29:50
he was around to take advantage of
29:52
it.
29:52
What do you think of Mark
29:54
Briscoe versus Jay lethal preview that for
29:56
a second while we're talking about
29:58
this. For the first time, I
30:00
think in recorded history,
30:02
I am actually overjoyed
30:04
at the thought of see in a match
30:06
on 278 If they
30:08
give them time to do what
30:10
they can do and if they don't try to
30:12
do too much and
30:14
get hurt in the process, that's
30:17
probably gonna be one of the better
30:19
wrestling matches that we will see on
30:21
that television program before
30:24
and
30:24
after. I have to think it's universal
30:26
that everyone is gonna be
30:28
just delighted to see Mark on that show.
30:31
And it's gonna you know, I gotta say, seeing this
30:33
news now. I'm really looking forward now to see
30:35
this match. And boy, you know, put that
30:38
on first. If anything
30:40
can possibly hold
30:43
the big
30:43
bangers, do
30:45
a nice package explaining
30:48
who Jay was and what
30:51
happened and segue right
30:53
into that match and give him
30:55
the first first quarter hour
30:57
and part of the second one, and I bet
30:59
you they would keep a significant
31:02
portion of that audience.
31:03
Well, that's the big news. The
31:06
breaking news Mark Briscoe versus Jay
31:08
lethal on dynamite. Certainly, you'll hear this
31:10
review this weekend on the experience. But Jim, let's get back to
31:12
something that And and by the way, if it was
31:14
Tony or whoever else stood up
31:16
or if it was the
31:18
the fans just by popular demand
31:20
or
31:20
whatever. Or the wrestlers
31:23
or the wrestlers. Everybody.
31:26
Anyway, so we're back
31:29
to 278. Oh,
31:31
boy. Raw, as a
31:33
matter of fact, it certainly was. As the
31:35
retrospective video they
31:37
did of the pro at the top of the
31:39
program, again, it's
31:41
great. It's in credible editing. They
31:43
have a fantastic, you know, technical
31:46
staff and the research work by
31:48
the production assistants
31:50
and the log of all those shows and those moments and
31:53
everything was incredible, and it was a lot of
31:55
stars and a lot of moments. And
31:57
again, I'm afraid it
31:59
reinforces that the the
32:01
old names were bigger and the
32:03
old moments were More
32:06
momentous.
32:08
Let's talk
32:09
about that video. It was really good.
32:11
It was really cool seeing all
32:13
those clips. But let's talk
32:14
about who wasn't in the video.
32:16
Because they had Jericho,
32:17
they had Brian Danielson. It's hard
32:19
to ignore those guys when you're talking about the
32:21
history of raw.
32:22
Big North
32:23
Sea and Punk? Big North
32:25
Sasha Banks.
32:26
What does
32:27
that tell
32:29
you? Well,
32:29
it tells me that
32:31
I know
32:34
that they He was a big admission. He was a
32:36
big part of that show for a long
32:38
time. I I mean,
32:40
the Sasha thing, while that's up in the
32:42
air, and and, you know,
32:45
honesty, they got three minutes for all the great
32:47
moments on raw or whatever. I don't know
32:49
if Sasha would qualify that strongly
32:51
anyway. Tunk is a
32:53
a different issue. With Danielson and
32:57
Jericho, they
32:59
know that Jericho's got a ten year
33:02
contract or whatever. He was
33:03
Cad enough to let everybody know about
33:06
that. So it's not
33:08
like that they are trying to
33:10
say, oh, all is forgiven. You can come home whenever you
33:12
can get of that madhouse. So
33:16
is it just to kinda show
33:18
a? We don't really see
33:20
this as a threat anymore?
33:22
They a big show was in the
33:24
clip where they collapsed
33:26
the ring. Right?
33:28
Mark Henry was in bed with May Young.
33:31
Mark Henry was in bed with well, and and
33:33
I'm talking about just the television program.
33:35
No. I'm I'm I'm kidding. Hi, Josh.
33:38
dead you. Well,
33:40
are you blaming Mark?
33:47
We're back to the retrospectively around.
33:50
I'm not worried about Mark. Back to the
33:52
retrospective. Back
33:54
to the retrospective. So anyway,
33:57
but But, yeah, that is
34:00
Well, at the same time,
34:03
it may not show that there's heat with
34:05
punk. It may show that they don't wanna get
34:07
if there's any kind of a
34:09
guy's in the middle of potentially what could
34:11
be a legal situation. I don't know
34:13
that they want to and
34:16
wouldn't get any of that on
34:18
them. But nevertheless,
34:20
by the way, we should notate
34:23
that they did the commercial free first hour
34:26
gimmick. And
34:28
I don't know if that threw them off for
34:30
the rest of the show, but boy, this was
34:32
a long first hour, wasn't it?
34:38
Well, I don't I don't
34:40
know. They could have
34:42
told the story that they told
34:44
with the bloodline in the first hour
34:46
and maybe
34:48
about ten minutes less. I gotta be honest with you because this did go
34:50
a while, but at the same time, it's the top guys
34:52
in the company, and it's the only thing
34:56
that wasn't it really
34:58
legendary at it. I remember this was
35:00
gonna be because apparently
35:02
they were gonna have a tribal council where
35:05
they had Alpha and Sika Alpha
35:07
and Sika. Alpha
35:10
and Rakeshi.
35:12
Stop his sweet daddy. He couldn't make it down from Toronto. Let's
35:15
see if the
35:18
porn star
35:20
was available. Oh my
35:22
god. Is she still blonde? I
35:24
wonder. Probably gray now.
35:28
Anyway, they apparently, they couldn't travel, they couldn't make it so they
35:30
changed it to the trial of
35:32
Sami Zane. But
35:34
from the time that the blood line
35:37
They didn't get the rock. That's why they changed
35:39
it. Well, from the time the bloodline
35:42
made their
35:44
entrance, Until the time the promo was over, it was almost twenty
35:46
five minutes. And is
35:49
good, but giminelli, alright,
35:52
So, and and five minutes is
35:54
the the entrance of the bloodline, and
35:56
I know their stars again. But
35:59
I just think that they
36:02
contribute during the
36:04
time that they're making
36:06
this grand entrance, the announcer are
36:08
flashing out the story, but as you said, lot of
36:10
time tune out the announcer. And secondly, I think
36:12
a lot of people if they're DVR ing
36:15
or even pausing for
36:17
commercials, they skip past the announcer setting the shit up
36:19
because they know by now this is a five minute
36:22
entrance. And if you have
36:24
the ability
36:26
to skip it, aren't
36:28
you? At this point, if you
36:30
have hearing issues with different pitches, there's a
36:32
chance you only hear Corey Graves on
36:34
this show.
36:35
Like, you know, well, and
36:38
that's that's nothing because I
36:40
have problems because
36:42
of the Piro damage, it's been done to me in
36:44
the past with my hearing to
36:46
begin with, and it is hard when they're when they
36:48
get the music going 278 all
36:50
nine yards. But
36:52
anyway, it's it's a lot of the
36:54
show is zippable because of the
36:56
length of the entrances and the
36:58
commercial breaks and the various
37:00
gaga before you get to anything.
37:03
But everybody there, it's in
37:05
Roman and Hammond and Solo and
37:07
Usos and Poor Sammy. And
37:10
they're all around the conference
37:12
table. And poll
37:16
is prosecuting Sammy
37:18
Zane for, you know, basically being
37:20
a a traitor to turncoat and
37:23
when the fans were chanting, ECW,
37:25
Paul said ECW is in
37:27
and I wish the same for
37:29
Sami Zane. Last week, he
37:31
was smoothly. Right.
37:34
Smooty. But the
37:36
fans are chanting Sammy and Paul's
37:38
telling Roman and everybody that
37:40
Sammy is a traitor and he's in
37:43
supremacy with Kevin Owens and they came
37:45
up with a video. Of
37:48
Sammy, a couple times in the past,
37:50
either not helping the
37:52
bloodline or be a day late in dollar short or
37:54
whatever. It tied in a
37:56
number of things that they've done in
37:58
finishes and angles over
38:00
the past couple months and very clever. I'd
38:02
like to think that they meant to do this from
38:04
the start, but I guarantee you one or
38:06
two of
38:08
those Enterprising production assistance had to be the one to go back
38:10
and log all this footage and figure out a way to make
38:12
sense out of it. Heyman was great.
38:15
Haman was fantastic. What he showed, he goes,
38:17
here's him showing four life. What does he wanna do
38:19
in the NWA? The horseman? What
38:21
is this? The
38:24
dangerous alliance? He had to get that one in
38:26
there. And then he
38:28
accuses Sammy of assault that
38:30
they had a clip
38:32
when Sammy did a promo and accidentally kind of bumped into
38:34
Roman Reigns. And see he was trying to take
38:36
over his head of the table.
38:38
And Paul
38:40
demanded that Sami
38:42
Zane be found guilty out to him.
38:44
If he had played the
38:46
fucking part of William Jennings, Brian,
38:49
and inherit the wind, it would have
38:51
God damn even being greater. What did
38:53
they call William Jennings Bryan and inherit
38:55
the wind? What was his
38:58
name? God damn it. I just watched
39:00
that the other night. I didn't.
39:02
Anyway, it was
39:05
a thinly veiled
39:08
serialization of the Scopes Monkey trial.
39:11
So finally, Sammy
39:14
is just he's shitting
39:16
himself. Right? He's looking at all over with it.
39:18
Then he says, Paul, it
39:20
hurts coming from you. All those times you
39:22
hug me. He said you
39:24
loved me. And he did a a great
39:26
job of being indignant at this
39:28
whole thing. And he got it. He doesn't need to
39:30
defend himself. He had
39:32
his defenses. He has
39:34
no defense. This is
39:36
all just completely made up
39:38
at a
39:40
whole clock. And then Roman gets mad. But go what? But
39:42
no defense. You won't even argue
39:44
for this. You won't fight for this.
39:46
I've given
39:48
you and he sends solo over to giving the spike 278
39:50
that Sammy looks like the guy
39:52
that's supposed to be executed. Do you
39:54
just stat an error, you know, sitting
39:57
there waiting for it.
40:00
And Solo's about to give him the
40:02
spike. And Jay
40:04
blocked Solo's Thumb
40:06
catches his arm. And
40:08
Jay said, wait wait wait a
40:10
minute. And Jay started to talk and
40:12
quick. Apparently, somebody had given him the Iggy this needs to
40:15
move along. Because Jay put together
40:17
a video and it just pops
40:20
up. And there is, like, five or six things
40:22
that Sammy has done to help
40:24
them where he stays eating the
40:28
Claimor kick for Roman and he's
40:30
have prevented somebody else from
40:32
making a save, and he's been there right at
40:34
the moment. And
40:36
the fans are but here's
40:38
the thing again because they've
40:40
created this situation. The fans are
40:42
now cheering the video of one
40:45
of the heels Sami Zayn screwing all of
40:47
the baby faces. But that's
40:51
where we're at. And so
40:54
Jay of all people,
40:56
the guy that, you know, he's not hated
40:58
you, but, you know, but now you've
41:00
proven yourself. You didn't give up and
41:02
then you're family, and Paul, meanwhile, in the quarter, Facially, having a
41:04
snit over there. And the
41:06
fans are chanting Sammy Eussaud. And
41:11
finally, Romans declares him, I find you
41:13
not guilty for
41:16
now. And
41:18
basically, he says finish
41:20
tonight 278 then disappear till
41:22
the royal rumble. I don't wanna see you.
41:24
And if you can pass your final test,
41:27
Then we'll see if you're bloodline
41:29
or not. So again, a tease for the
41:31
pay per view. Very
41:34
nice. But by the time that they've
41:36
finished that interview, remember we said Hogan
41:38
welcomed us, and we got a package.
41:42
And this interview, we're half an
41:44
hour in a show.
41:46
And then we come back
41:49
from the break and the first match is
41:51
the Usos. No, it
41:54
wasn't a break because it's commercial
41:56
free. They just went to the
41:58
announcer for a second and come back to the ring,
42:00
and there's the use of it here comes a
42:02
judgment day. And now
42:04
for the raw tag team title, we
42:06
got judgment day, Dominic, and
42:08
priest against the Usos, and
42:11
Ripley and Finn and Sam here
42:13
in the quarters. And again, I'm like, who are the heels? But since
42:15
all of the babyface tag teams
42:19
practically, they've got
42:21
Are the shits? These are the
42:23
two coolest teams. Why aren't
42:25
the Russo's baby faces? Even though
42:27
Roman's clearly a heel, based on
42:29
everything we've seen, are they kind of
42:31
babyface? Well, but then
42:34
they can't really be babyfaces if
42:36
they're hanging out with a heel and Paul Hayman's
42:38
the wise man, and they've been presented as
42:40
heels for the past three
42:42
years, but
42:43
that's family. That's family
42:46
for you. Well, but the the people are cheering for
42:48
them, especially whatever they're
42:50
on Sammy's side. So,
42:52
anyway, now
42:54
if I guess they would be the in the babyface
42:57
sympathetic position here against
42:59
judgment day who are full
43:01
fledged heels apparently. And
43:04
they worked hard this
43:07
match, but at the same point,
43:09
did are you seeing a pattern that we've
43:11
been talking about for the past few
43:13
weeks they start having this match and the
43:16
people zone out in the
43:18
arena. They're kinda
43:20
sitting there. And part of it it went a
43:22
while. Because it there's another, I
43:24
think, twenty minutes of this match of the
43:26
same people they've seen interacting in the
43:28
ring for
43:30
twenty something minutes. And the main
43:32
problem is on raw, the
43:34
the interviews are important,
43:37
the moments that debuts are important, the returns are important,
43:39
and then the matches are where everybody
43:42
just gets ready for the next one of the things I
43:44
just mentioned.
43:46
And everyone swab, somebody breaks piece of furniture
43:48
or takes a bump. It
43:50
looks like it paralyzes some people pop.
43:54
But otherwise, WWE crowds,
43:56
they're trained that the matches or the
43:58
interludes in the in the drama. So
44:03
Fin Ballard interfered and
44:05
got ejected at one
44:08
point, and then I
44:10
like the story they told in this match.
44:13
It's just everything's taken
44:15
so long. USAA Jimmy
44:18
does a dive and hurts his leg and
44:20
everything comes to a halt. AND
44:22
THERE'S A CONFERENCE AND ALL OF
44:24
THE DOCTORS AND PEARS AND HE'S HELPED
44:26
TO THE BACK. THE REFERENT SAYS can't
44:29
continue, and Pierce tells me they're gonna
44:31
forfeit, but then Sammy agrees
44:34
to take his place, and then the place
44:36
wakes up. And Pierce agrees to it and
44:38
the match continues Sammy
44:40
starts shining. We're forty five minutes into the
44:42
program now, but now
44:44
they're actually Kindly
44:46
given a shit about this. I'm not so
44:48
it's a great they structured
44:51
this well. Just took them
44:53
a while to
44:53
get there.
44:54
I anybody may have heard his name for us because when it happened
44:56
and before Sammy came out, I rewound it several
44:58
times. I was watching live just to
45:01
see how he
45:02
landed. And then by the time I was
45:04
back to real TV or real time,
45:06
Sammy was out there. You
45:08
know,
45:09
and and at the That's the
45:10
thing is that, you
45:12
know, they knew they were gonna kick it up a
45:14
notch when they substitute Sammy
45:16
for one of the USOs.
45:20
And that's the natural place where people should
45:22
have got more invested, but I'm just
45:24
saying, it took them a
45:26
while to get there, especially with what they did later
45:28
in this program. Don't know what nevertheless.
45:30
They did a couple of fucking
45:32
nice false finishes back and forth,
45:35
and then finally, Sammy
45:38
and Jay, Uso,
45:40
hit the one d on Dominic,
45:42
and Sammy covered him at 123.
45:45
And that was great, and it was a great final
45:48
five minutes as I said, but by the
45:50
time they did all of that business, it was over
45:52
forty minutes from start
45:54
to finish.
45:54
But I after I saw some of the
45:57
other stuff,
45:57
I'm, say, well, be thankful for small
45:59
favors, I guess. It
46:01
was forty minutes
46:02
on a three hour show and it just happened to contain
46:04
the most captivating storyline they have.
46:06
So I
46:07
can't complain too much,
46:09
although it go a while, but by the opening
46:11
segment? The Massey, I would I would just give
46:13
them credit for they'd have somewhere else to go
46:16
from there with every
46:18
big star that's still breathing
46:20
practically in in the locker room that they've
46:22
ever had on a show, but it was all
46:24
downhill from here. Fans really got
46:26
into it after Sammy got involved. Sammy
46:28
is super over right now. We should probably talk
46:30
about that in a
46:30
second, but I just wanna say because I
46:32
complimented him several times recently. Dominic
46:35
Mostario. I love him as
46:37
a heel.
46:37
And when it looked
46:40
like he was about to get the pin, even I
46:42
was not
46:44
him. He came at the pin.
46:46
So they got something with
46:48
him. Again, he still has to probably
46:51
work on a lot of things in the ring,
46:53
but, you know, prison changes a man though.
46:56
Prison changes a man and I'd like to be in that
46:58
prison of being chained up by Ria
46:59
Ripley. That sounds wonderful.
47:01
Well, there you go. Boy, you ought to see
47:03
those leg irons they got.
47:05
Anyway, so Sammy's
47:08
in.
47:08
We've talked about how great he's been in this
47:10
whole thing and how over he is now.
47:12
Based on how over
47:15
he is and
47:17
and I mean, we've been talking about this every week, but do you see
47:19
things differently this week than you did last week or the
47:21
week before in terms of what direction it should
47:24
go in towards
47:26
mania with Sammy's
47:26
name? Well, I mean, it's it
47:29
seemed like this was a
47:31
kind of a jump a
47:33
quick jump ahead from
47:36
Roman being a little grumpy with him 278.
47:38
I got a spiky now and
47:40
blah blah blah. But I I assume
47:43
they've still got another eight or
47:45
nine weeks before WrestleMania or whatever it
47:47
is, so they're gonna space this
47:49
out. But I think Obviously,
47:51
at WrestleMania, something
47:54
has to transpire where 278
47:58
people can be full throated behind Sammy.
48:01
However, this break
48:04
split CASM
48:06
is going to develop between Sammy and
48:08
the bloodline. It's got to be right about
48:10
that time, right, because 278
48:12
or or would happen at WrestleMania, but probably if
48:15
they wanna make WrestleMania strong,
48:19
It would beforehand. I go
48:21
back to the question
48:23
if Cody wins the rumble. Is
48:25
Sammy in the rumble?
48:27
He will.
48:31
Depending on, I
48:34
guess, how many people else they got in the rumble, he would
48:37
almost have to be, Woodney? I guess that's the
48:39
question. A a guy featured like
48:41
that would almost have to be. And
48:43
we have Owens versus
48:45
Roman that which he'll be involved
48:47
with. If it appears
48:50
like the logical thing is getting
48:52
somehow to Roman versus Sami for one of the
48:54
nights of WrestleMania, how does that affect
48:56
Cody who every video they're showing
48:58
of Cody, I've said it before and it becomes more and
49:00
more transparent every week. If he doesn't win the rumble,
49:02
something's wrong. Well, I don't we're
49:04
not I don't think we're getting Roman Sami
49:06
at WrestleMania unless the
49:09
rock is definitely
49:10
out. Report as the rock
49:12
is definitely out. Well, son of
49:14
a gun, I thought we could count on
49:17
him. Well, in
49:20
that case, The
49:21
report is
49:22
that the
49:23
Rock has informed WWE that he doesn't
49:26
have enough time to get in
49:28
the shape.
49:29
God damn he looks
49:31
pretty fucking good when I see him on
49:33
his television program. It was great standing still. What
49:35
about when he falls down? Well, that
49:37
might be a different
49:40
story. But still,
49:42
do we see Roman and
49:44
Sammy at WrestleMania, Night One, and
49:46
then Cody. But because Roman will even
49:48
if we have Roman and Sammy, Roman
49:51
will beat Sammy. And then we have Roman and Cody
49:53
Night two? Well, I guess
49:55
other question is if Sammy is this hot right
49:57
now? And he's this hot? As
49:59
he's ever been and people really love him and he's doing a
50:01
great job with
50:02
it. How
50:02
do you get from here to WrestleMania
50:05
a few months away so that
50:07
he doesn't lose that? And what do you do with him
50:09
then? Because you don't want him just to be in a throwaway match? I don't know
50:11
if him and Owen's versus
50:14
the Usos. Just to use an
50:15
example, would be enough
50:18
to kinda go
50:19
with the spirit of everything that's been happening for
50:21
the last year The question
50:23
is, how are you gonna use
50:26
Sami getting the mania? I don't know.
50:31
They don't pay me to do that. No.
50:33
In all honesty, I I
50:35
like this thing with Sammy and
50:37
the bloodline because I don't really
50:39
know exactly we know eventually what the concept, what's
50:42
gonna happen is that
50:44
Sami's gonna end up on
50:46
the 278 but we don't know
50:48
how or who's gonna instigate it or
50:50
exactly what the process is gonna
50:52
And because of the things
50:55
up in the air and the rock schedule it, etcetera. don't even really
50:57
know for sure what the matches are
50:59
gonna be at WrestleMania. We need
51:01
to know sooner than
51:04
later for promotional consideration. But
51:06
I like the fact that they've got
51:08
something that we're interested in
51:10
and we can't call every step of it.
51:13
And I, honestly, at this point,
51:15
I don't know what I
51:17
would do. I know what you you
51:19
can't do. You can't You can't
51:24
really do the thing now
51:26
where they
51:28
jump Sammy Bombardied, been leaving for dead and the
51:30
people are sympathetic over it because now he
51:32
ought to know better because he's been warned, because
51:34
they're already
51:36
Looking sideways at him and Roman was gonna have solo
51:40
spiking. So it almost has to be
51:42
something where
51:44
Sammy has the choice to make
51:46
in in the moment and,
51:48
you know, chooses fair
51:50
play or whatever's right instead
51:53
of what the bloodlines interests
51:55
are and screws them in
51:57
some kind of fashion. And then then
51:59
they have caused to you
52:01
jump him to do whatever. But
52:04
if he gets beaten down by
52:06
the the gang
52:08
of people, that he that we're about
52:10
to beat him down, that he's still hanging around, that takes some of
52:12
his sympathy, Wayne, it doesn't look as smart.
52:16
Doesn't
52:16
it? We will see where they go, but perhaps if
52:18
Sami is stressed out by this whole situation,
52:20
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was a little trepidation about
56:55
the next what and here's
56:57
what they ended up doing With
56:59
the popery of legends that didn't
57:01
get a speaking part and
57:03
just appeared on camera, the
57:06
background or in the whatever the
57:08
poker game. And
57:10
I like Bradshaw, I like Ron
57:14
Simmons. And I know that was their gimmick twenty
57:16
five years ago or
57:18
whatever. And and I wouldn't
57:20
even mind the idea of the poker
57:22
game, but Okay.
57:24
We see JBL walk in
57:26
with Baron Von Corben. Right? And
57:28
they run into Godfather who's
57:32
got the VAP list or the access list for the
57:34
poker game in the
57:36
APA's office.
57:40
And He has no idea who Barry
57:42
Corbin is. Now I know.
57:44
Here's the thing they're ribbon on
57:46
a square. Nobody
57:48
else does either, but
57:52
should one of
57:54
the legends of the WWE
57:56
not know who this guy
57:58
is that's been pushed on their
58:00
television for
58:02
years. At this
58:05
point. And he walks
58:07
up with JBL, and they're doing a
58:09
comedy sketch. Yes. I understand the
58:11
writers wanna have the Legends interactive
58:13
blah, blah, blah, but they're making a complete embassy. If
58:16
it hadn't been done already by mother nature in
58:18
the booking,
58:20
of Baron Von Corben. How do
58:22
you see what I'm saying? They're acting
58:25
like nobody knows who the modern talent
58:27
is, even the old talent?
58:30
Would if give
58:33
me a goddamn baseball player
58:35
from thirty years ago on
58:38
the Mets. Keith Hernandez. Okay. If he walked
58:40
in right now, would he
58:42
know at least the
58:44
names of and potentially
58:46
recognize most
58:48
of the starting lineup of the current
58:50
team? Absolutely. Of course.
58:53
Okay. Well, here they're
58:55
all and then Ron comes
58:58
out And he doesn't know who this fucking guy is either. Who's
59:00
the Stooge? They keep calling him
59:02
a Stooge, and then, of course, when
59:05
Korbin shows that the all
59:07
the cash he's brought they let him
59:09
in. Because they're gonna take him for a sucker
59:11
because he's an idiot. And Bradshaw is
59:14
his manager. And he's with
59:16
him. So
59:18
I love Brad Sean, Ross, the first
59:22
That was the first sign that Vince didn't go home when Brad's when Bradshaw
59:24
showed up as a manager all of a sudden on
59:26
TV. Well, they had he can
59:28
talk and they had to do something for Corbin.
59:31
Well, they didn't have to, but I guess they
59:33
wanted to. But so they walked through the
59:35
fake door. That's the
59:38
gimmick from raw years ago and backstage
59:40
is set up as an
59:42
entire, like, casino with all
59:44
of the legends and
59:46
the talent sitting around playing
59:48
poker and Cabot sing
59:49
and just having
59:51
a wonderful time.
59:54
Answering the question of where is
59:56
Johnny Gargano? Yes. He's in the poker lounge. And there was
59:58
Gardano and his wife,
1:00:00
the
1:00:00
pixie, and they're just standing there.
1:00:02
And they did that well. That's
1:00:05
usually what they do well and just stand
1:00:07
there. Yeah. Well, we'll get back to
1:00:09
the poker game.
1:00:12
But The next
1:00:16
one, LA night. And I
1:00:18
like the guy. I'm not saying he's gonna
1:00:21
be the next fucking rock. Right?
1:00:23
Well, he can talk, he can work, he can have a
1:00:25
professional wrestling match. He he has movement to
1:00:27
him. He's experienced. Got
1:00:30
some personality. I'm beginning to believe
1:00:33
it's all for naught at this point because
1:00:35
after the Max DuPree fiasco,
1:00:40
where they just made him a completely different
1:00:42
person for no reason to the point where he knew
1:00:44
it, sucks so bad. He couldn't even
1:00:46
do it. And then they just erased that with a
1:00:48
backstage beat down
1:00:50
of the Monois and
1:00:53
Marseille or whoever the
1:00:56
fuck And now he's with Bray Wyatt, and that's
1:00:58
a doomed spot. How they've
1:01:00
even talked about it. It's
1:01:03
somebody's knocking on
1:01:05
the door. knocking. Actually, they're
1:01:07
knocking on the ceiling. My carpenters
1:01:10
are at work today, so please
1:01:12
excuse me.
1:01:12
They've even
1:01:16
said from the scuttlebutt
1:01:18
from the office is they under
1:01:22
stand that you you
1:01:24
can almost be assured that
1:01:26
whoever is booked with Bray Wyatt will
1:01:30
be buried. It's hard to book anybody that doesn't get buried by this
1:01:32
fucking thing. Right? This whole
1:01:34
gimmick, this whole world
1:01:36
they're creating. So he
1:01:38
knocks the legends of a few
1:01:40
minutes does LA Night and then
1:01:44
Gong. The undertaker's gong and I
1:01:46
sit up and I
1:01:48
open my eyes and I start
1:01:50
sharpening my pencil and the
1:01:52
people who
1:01:54
and that lasts a gong or two and the
1:01:57
taker music starts, and then
1:02:00
it transitions to
1:02:02
that fucking 278 rock,
1:02:05
American badass, his right
1:02:08
wing, fake trailer park
1:02:10
trash, fucking
1:02:12
And Stace had
1:02:15
walked in to look at
1:02:17
the poker game and said, oh, Jimmy's
1:02:19
looking good, hard, and
1:02:22
etcetera. And then the the gong,
1:02:24
she thinks she's gonna see the undertaker too.
1:02:26
And then suddenly at the same time when
1:02:28
air comes American badass, we both
1:02:31
say, oh, no. Sort
1:02:33
of the fans in the arena if
1:02:35
you noticed? Yes. They
1:02:38
didn't
1:02:38
get the undertaker. They got
1:02:40
Mark Callaway on his motorcycle. With
1:02:42
that, again, with that fucking piece
1:02:44
of trash kid rocks, right
1:02:47
wing, horse shit, and
1:02:50
his street clothes
1:02:52
and a motorcycle that
1:02:55
came fifty feet down the
1:02:58
fucking rant or down the the
1:03:00
aisleway and then an awkward
1:03:02
dismount.
1:03:02
What were you gonna say?
1:03:04
You keep shitting on kid rock for his politics.
1:03:06
You don't have a problem with his shitty music? Just, no. The music shits.
1:03:09
The music is the shits, but
1:03:11
it it was overwhelmed
1:03:14
and overshadowed by his just shittiness as
1:03:16
a human
1:03:16
being. Every time I've seen with the
1:03:19
fucking fuck Joe Biden, I
1:03:21
love Trump, I like to suck his orange dick shit
1:03:23
for the past five years.
1:03:26
But nevertheless, So
1:03:28
we don't get the undertaker. We get Mark Callaway who walks
1:03:31
in a ring and fires up and everything,
1:03:33
but it's it's not the
1:03:36
undertaker. And remember, we we said
1:03:38
this when we talked about the undertaker biography
1:03:40
and the retirement and the whole nine yards.
1:03:44
In hindsight, the American
1:03:46
badass was a good thing because
1:03:49
it made the people nostalgic
1:03:52
for the undertaker. How could I miss you if
1:03:54
you won't go away? You went away. And
1:03:56
then when they brought it back, people loved it.
1:03:58
For then on, it was gold. We
1:04:00
don't want to see the fucking American badass anymore. Is it
1:04:03
ain't the undertaker? Didn't Vince
1:04:06
even hate
1:04:08
it? I don't know.
1:04:10
And and then so now
1:04:12
LA nights on the
1:04:14
floor, undertakers in the ring, And
1:04:18
LA night's doing, hey, I agree with you. The
1:04:20
locker room is soft,
1:04:22
but you said so
1:04:24
I'd fight you right
1:04:26
now and would send the undertaker to the undertaker, but
1:04:28
I'll let you live as he's backing
1:04:30
up out of the entranceway.
1:04:32
Okay. Well, I have then
1:04:34
I know what's
1:04:36
coming next, and I have a horrible
1:04:38
feeling. And there's a
1:04:40
blackout and
1:04:42
spooky music and the
1:04:44
blue light, and suddenly,
1:04:46
Bray Wyatt is behind LA
1:04:48
night with the lantern. And the
1:04:51
music creeps along, and LA
1:04:53
night creeps back, and
1:04:56
everybody's creeping And and
1:04:59
that's when Stacey said, is
1:05:01
anything going to happen and she walked out of
1:05:03
the room? Because as like, what the fuck
1:05:05
is slow as molasses us in January as mama
1:05:07
cornet used to say. And finally,
1:05:10
LA night backs away from Brake
1:05:12
White by getting into the ring and
1:05:14
turning his on the
1:05:16
undertaker. Where the undertaker
1:05:18
grabs him by the Guzman is gonna
1:05:20
choke slam him, but
1:05:22
then undertaker sees Bray Wyatt,
1:05:25
An undertaker shows LA Night
1:05:27
to Bray Wyatt and and
1:05:30
that's when Stacey said, is anything going
1:05:32
to happen and she walked out of the
1:05:34
room? Because as what the fuck is as slow as molasses in
1:05:36
January as mama used to
1:05:38
say. And finally,
1:05:41
LA night away from bright white by getting into the ring
1:05:43
and turning his back on the
1:05:46
undertaker. Where the undertaker
1:05:48
grabs him by the Guzman is gonna choke
1:05:50
slam 278, But
1:05:52
then undertaker sees Bray
1:05:54
Wyatt, and undertaker shows
1:05:56
l a knight to Bray Wyatt, and Bray
1:05:58
Wyatt gives him the sister Abigail
1:06:01
An LA Night rolls out never
1:06:03
to be seen again,
1:06:06
and then undertaker and Bray Wyatt face off
1:06:09
and undertaker leans over
1:06:12
and whispers something to Bray Wyatt,
1:06:14
which is just the just
1:06:16
the talk of Twitter this morning. What could he
1:06:18
have said? Probably,
1:06:20
it sounded a lot better when we went over
1:06:22
it in the locker
1:06:23
room. You got an easier deal than
1:06:25
I
1:06:25
ever heard. There you go.
1:06:27
And then Taker gets on the
1:06:29
motorcycle at ringside, and he can't
1:06:31
start it. And you and they keep cutting back
1:06:33
to Brie Wyatt
1:06:36
because take her in getting the bike started. And you can see one guy in the
1:06:38
front row point and, like, you gotta do something
1:06:40
there. And then he finally
1:06:42
starts it and he rides fifty
1:06:45
feet back down the
1:06:48
entranceway and stops and turns around.
1:06:50
It's the first bad
1:06:52
undertaker segment I think ever in the
1:06:54
history of
1:06:55
wrestling. He
1:06:56
should've just put it in neutral, let them push
1:06:58
him to choose my side.
1:07:02
And look on the bright side, you know what? Considering
1:07:04
how shitty this was in every
1:07:06
respect, the wrong undertaker
1:07:09
The Bray Wyatt
1:07:11
stuff,
1:07:12
LA Night is doing as
1:07:15
well as anyone could do under these circumstances, and
1:07:17
I think he's actually I don't know if they'll
1:07:19
use
1:07:19
them. I don't know if it'll go
1:07:21
anywhere for him.
1:07:23
But the
1:07:23
fans are reacting to him. He's starting to
1:07:25
get over. They're doing his I don't know
1:07:27
what his catch phrases, yeah, or
1:07:30
whatever. But they're doing it. They're doing
1:07:32
it with
1:07:32
So they're
1:07:33
into him a little bit. He's got
1:07:34
good material. He delivers it well. Seems
1:07:37
like a tweaked out wrestler. Like, you
1:07:39
believe he'd be a crazy
1:07:41
wrestler.
1:07:42
But then they keep job in a mess.
1:07:43
So if he does a good job, but it's like
1:07:45
the Austin
1:07:46
Theory thing, although he's a bit older than Austin
1:07:48
Theory, which is why I don't have as much
1:07:50
hope. That they'll straighten it
1:07:52
out, but he's been great. He's been one of the highlights of WWE programming.
1:07:54
As bad as the Bray Wyatt stuff is,
1:07:58
he's good. But now
1:08:00
think about this.
1:08:02
Undertaker could have choke
1:08:05
slam them. It seventy nine, you have him Bray. So he throws
1:08:07
him to Bray. Bray drops him on his head. You
1:08:09
never see LA night again. Takers
1:08:12
retired. Bray
1:08:14
Wyatt. Just came back, but he's been around for fifteen years in some
1:08:16
form or another. And
1:08:18
and so the newest guy
1:08:21
is the guy that got shit on and and left out
1:08:23
of the equation? And, yes, I know the fans of
1:08:26
the supernatural, one step beyond,
1:08:32
they they loved the idea of taker and
1:08:34
Braewide and the ring together except they
1:08:36
didn't even see undertaker, but Bray
1:08:39
Wyatt has goddamn supernatural
1:08:42
fucking puppets talking pigs
1:08:46
and whatever But we can't even see
1:08:48
the undertaker with some eye makeup
1:08:50
and the goddamn entrance and the
1:08:52
whole nine yards. Some druids maybe
1:08:54
to him. He's he's just gonna come out dressed in street clothes. I don't
1:08:57
know. And the LA
1:08:59
night stuff, the
1:09:01
problem is they have a track record. They show
1:09:03
you what they think of you when they use you this way with the did it the wrong way, I
1:09:05
remember. Years and years ago, we got
1:09:07
beat up by fifteen
1:09:11
litges of the ring. And one after another in
1:09:13
the bump from one to the other to the
1:09:15
other. But FTR with DX is the
1:09:17
famous one that everyone talks about
1:09:20
now because they first talked about it here
1:09:22
on
1:09:22
this show. Yeah.
1:09:23
So, I mean, there were examples. WWE, you have someone that the fans
1:09:25
may think has something and they're, alright,
1:09:27
just go out there and get
1:09:30
beat up by these old people. And then I'm
1:09:32
not saying that about the undertaker
1:09:33
necessarily, but, you know, that's
1:09:33
the thing that doesn't give me hope for
1:09:34
LA night there. It says something about the way they
1:09:39
think of you when they're building up a big match, this lights out
1:09:41
match, match has a fucking sponsor
1:09:43
Mountain Dew, and they're gonna
1:09:45
have you use like this
1:09:47
a week
1:09:48
before. Why didn't they
1:09:49
just save poor LA night? And who's the mayor? Considering what they've done
1:09:51
with the mayor? Why didn't they do that with the
1:09:53
mayor? Well, he has to get beat
1:09:55
up later on. But at
1:09:57
least he got beat up by one of
1:10:00
the current members of the roster,
1:10:01
but why couldn't Bray Wyatt be in the ring doing
1:10:03
one of his promos people
1:10:05
love even though he never really
1:10:08
gets anywhere, but, mainly, couldn't he
1:10:10
be conflicted again about, I don't
1:10:12
know if I should do this.
1:10:14
Or I don't know if I should let this
1:10:16
this monster out of its
1:10:18
cage again or whatever. And
1:10:20
boom, undertaker music.
1:10:23
Here comes the undertaker. Gets any brings
1:10:25
the lights up with his supernatural powers. And
1:10:27
he tells fucking BrakeWai he gives
1:10:29
BrakeWai at one line of
1:10:31
advice that makes
1:10:33
sense and whatever the
1:10:35
fuck universe they're in these days. Enough with the howdy duty shit. There you
1:10:37
got enough with the howdy
1:10:39
duty shit kid. Or
1:10:43
whatever it may be. And then there's
1:10:46
the fucking bong and
1:10:48
the lights out. And when
1:10:50
they come out, come back on, undertakers gone,
1:10:52
and then Bray White can do
1:10:54
his firefly fun house or whatever.
1:10:56
And then you've
1:10:59
seen the real undertaker You've had that moment,
1:11:01
but you didn't have to beat the fuck out of LA night,
1:11:03
and they wouldn't have it wouldn't have
1:11:05
cost them any buys on
1:11:07
the Row Rumble. Or
1:11:09
whatever not buys. Nobody buys it anymore. Nevertheless.
1:11:11
See, I see it as give the
1:11:14
undertaker the miss thing.
1:11:17
Because it would have accomplished the same thing
1:11:19
for both guys and do something where LA night doesn't look weak the of the
1:11:21
pay per
1:11:24
view match. Well, he's looked weak
1:11:26
the month of the pay per view match
1:11:28
because How
1:11:31
about did you
1:11:34
love the Dallas page
1:11:36
interview? I
1:11:38
must have missed the Dallas page interview. There
1:11:41
wasn't one. Diamond
1:11:43
Dallas page for They
1:11:45
bought him a plane ticket. They flew him in. They put him in
1:11:48
the poker game and you
1:11:50
never even heard him speak. He
1:11:52
was playing
1:11:54
poker with Medusa, who you also saw
1:11:57
for that brief
1:12:00
moment. Again, they could have
1:12:02
had interaction with Medusa and
1:12:04
one of the modern women to not
1:12:06
to beat anybody up, but just do
1:12:11
something verbal that may have furthered them or whatever
1:12:13
the
1:12:13
case? Have her out there
1:12:15
with Charlotte and
1:12:18
Becky? There you know,
1:12:20
we're well yeah.
1:12:22
Wait a minute. Hold
1:12:25
on Beky and Bailey. We're we're gonna
1:12:27
get to that next. I said Becky, so Bianca. Charlotte and Bianca. Bianca or Bianca
1:12:29
and Cruella or what I
1:12:31
don't know what point is.
1:12:36
The cage match that they made
1:12:38
a point of advertising for
1:12:40
this week. Right? They set
1:12:42
it up last week, Becky and Bailey. Instead
1:12:45
of having a cage
1:12:48
match, they lower
1:12:50
the cage, they send out
1:12:52
Beky, and then Kaye and
1:12:54
Skye attack Becky before she gets
1:12:57
into the cage. They beat her up
1:12:59
on the floor. They all three
1:13:02
of them with Bailey roller into the cage. They
1:13:04
lock the door and they beat the
1:13:06
shit out of Becky while Pierce Trust
1:13:09
panic and then gets boat cutters and gets in and
1:13:11
the heels laugh so they advertise a
1:13:15
women's cage match and they
1:13:17
gave us a three
1:13:19
minute angle? It was also a forty five minute trial that may have cut into this.
1:13:20
Well, that's what
1:13:23
I was saying. It seemed
1:13:26
a little long at the top of the program. I
1:13:33
don't know. I liked Bailey until she got
1:13:35
the other two do
1:13:38
nothing for her. They're
1:13:40
not top
1:13:42
girls, they're smaller than she
1:13:44
is. So it's not like
1:13:46
they're enforcers or whatever. It's
1:13:49
like Here's Bailey with two underneath
1:13:51
girls, and she's expected to to fight the
1:13:53
one of the most popular women
1:13:55
in the business. What
1:14:00
do you
1:14:03
think? I
1:14:04
think I was kinda
1:14:06
interested to see what they would do with the match
1:14:08
and there was no match. They did this
1:14:09
angle. I'm I'm not
1:14:10
as interested in Bailey now as I used
1:14:11
to be, if that was the question.
1:14:13
278
1:14:15
I know a lot of it's
1:14:16
based on usage. Yeah. There
1:14:18
wasn't really a question there
1:14:21
as much as just moon.
1:14:24
Okay. Now we get to the DX
1:14:26
segment. And this took a while and
1:14:28
they They
1:14:30
had plenty of time for this one
1:14:32
somehow even though the
1:14:34
cage match got rushed.
1:14:36
Again, this is a three
1:14:39
hour program of interviews and entrances.
1:14:42
So and, again,
1:14:45
road dog,
1:14:48
x pack, triple h and Sean and
1:14:50
Kurt Engel was out there. And they did again,
1:14:54
the thing with DX about
1:14:56
this with the DX Reunion a
1:14:58
while back, not long ago. For
1:15:01
its time, yes,
1:15:04
all the EDG teenage kids
1:15:06
like the cussing and the
1:15:08
gesticulating But
1:15:11
now they're all fifty, and they're all gray headed or
1:15:13
bald, and they're all or sixty,
1:15:15
I should say. And they're all gray
1:15:17
headed or bald, and they're still act
1:15:20
and now they had to
1:15:22
act like they didn't notice that Kurt Engel was out there with them, and
1:15:25
then they're doing
1:15:28
their schtick. But they're doing
1:15:30
their schick that gets interrupted because road dog can't introduce and
1:15:36
Triple h is about to say,
1:15:38
let's get ready to suck at when Imperium's music plays.
1:15:40
And It's
1:15:43
the same thing again. Here is
1:15:45
Kurt Engel, Road Dog, XPAC,
1:15:47
Triple 278, Shawn
1:15:50
Michaels. Five of the biggest names of
1:15:52
the past twenty five years in
1:15:55
the company here comes Imperium including
1:15:58
Gunther who is not only being presented as one of the top guys
1:16:00
currently today, but is actually one
1:16:02
of the best talents in the business.
1:16:06
278 they
1:16:08
have to be presented
1:16:10
as fucking stooges and
1:16:13
dipshits to stand there
1:16:15
and let the Fifty and sixty year
1:16:18
old guys make jokes and crackfunnies and
1:16:20
triple h roll his eyes
1:16:22
about if only there was somebody
1:16:26
that could come out to hit the
1:16:28
music queue because here comes fucking sad, but there's only
1:16:30
one of him. If only there were more people,
1:16:34
and here comes street profits. If only
1:16:37
someone could make this match official
1:16:39
and here comes teddy long
1:16:41
to make the match official, they're
1:16:44
parodying their own program
1:16:46
and they're using the current
1:16:48
talent to
1:16:50
stand there and not get
1:16:52
the joke 278 to just they're,
1:16:55
you know, they're pissing on them.
1:16:57
And, you know, at first, they were gonna fight Gunther, but then
1:16:59
triple h says, I'm retired dude. Sean says,
1:17:01
I'm too old, and they
1:17:03
all joke about not
1:17:06
being able to fight the guy,
1:17:08
but the guy has to stand
1:17:10
there and nothing's happening for him.
1:17:12
You see what I'm
1:17:14
saying? Oh, I saw saw it live.
1:17:16
Yeah. So so finally, it took for
1:17:18
fucking ever to get all the other
1:17:20
people out there, and then Teddy Long
1:17:22
and they make a six man
1:17:23
tag, and then they do
1:17:25
the bid well. If only had somebody
1:17:27
to keep order, and then
1:17:29
Kurt has already pulled
1:17:32
off his T shirt, he wore in the
1:17:34
ring to reveal a DX shirt, and now he pulls off the DX shirt. He's got a referee shirt underneath.
1:17:37
Because it
1:17:40
was all set up ahead of time because it's
1:17:42
all phony. They're just making fun of their show being phony. And the
1:17:44
only ones that and the fans are
1:17:46
in on the joke and triple h and
1:17:50
DX incurred the only one's
1:17:52
alien on the joke, is the big fucking
1:17:54
guy across the ring that he and
1:17:56
his stooges have to be the ones
1:17:58
drawing the money? And they look like
1:18:01
bunch of dip shits. And then
1:18:03
they had a six man
1:18:05
tag and the baby
1:18:07
faces won it. And and and and
1:18:09
that states had come back in and said the street profits. She said, do they
1:18:11
always come out dressed that
1:18:14
way they had basketball uniforms
1:18:16
on? This was
1:18:18
for the seventy sixers colors, I believe, because they were in Philly. But she always I
1:18:22
said, yeah. They always
1:18:24
have Basketball uniform, and
1:18:26
she said, and the red solo cups, I said yes. And
1:18:28
then she walked
1:18:31
out of it. And so now they
1:18:33
they beat they didn't beat Gunther, but they
1:18:36
beat Gunther's team lost
1:18:38
and he was in there.
1:18:44
Your thoughts? Oh, I mean,
1:18:46
I don't want shit on everything.
1:18:51
But I hate brand of comedy. It's a unique
1:18:54
brand of the WWE brand of
1:18:56
comedy
1:18:58
that is especially
1:18:59
terrible involvement in all this. I'm
1:19:01
glad he was able to appear on
1:19:03
raw for this.
1:19:06
You know, I remember
1:19:07
thinking a few months ago when DX had their
1:19:09
reunion. I hope this isn't the last time
1:19:11
we see DX.
1:19:14
While getting assignments four
1:19:16
months ago where something had a reunion,
1:19:18
now they're back with another reunion,
1:19:21
I mean,
1:19:21
The show started strong. Whatever you wanna say about the long trial segment, people were into it. It was captivating. It
1:19:24
was good.
1:19:28
The match ended
1:19:29
up being good, but I started getting to a point
1:19:30
around here where I was like, I don't know how much longer I'm gonna go. And
1:19:32
I fell for the record, I fell asleep at ten o'clock
1:19:35
and I had to watch the rest
1:19:38
the next day. Well, we
1:19:40
were right there at about ten o'clock by
1:19:42
this point. What would have hurt if
1:19:44
DX had come out and done all
1:19:47
of their and promos and people wanna hear. And
1:19:49
then Imperium come out 278 Gunther got up
1:19:51
in Triple H's face and say you're an
1:19:53
executive around here now. So I'll talk to
1:19:55
you. I don't care
1:19:58
about the rest of your clown show friends. Sean Michaels, if you look sideways
1:20:00
at me, and I know you probably will,
1:20:02
no matter how you look at me, look
1:20:07
sideways at me. I will chop you
1:20:09
into insensibility in x pack. I'll break
1:20:11
your neck and
1:20:14
whatever and Have a face to face
1:20:16
with triple h about how he
1:20:18
needs to be? Gunther, that is?
1:20:21
The top guy in this fucking company and triple
1:20:23
h better get with the program and start minusing
1:20:26
them and let the Cornette
1:20:30
guys, Seth Rollins and The Street profits,
1:20:32
if it has to be,
1:20:34
come out and save a
1:20:37
potential bad situation with A guy's had heart
1:20:39
problems and another is several other people that
1:20:42
have injuries and are retired in their
1:20:44
fifties from Gunther in
1:20:47
there and his stiges. And then
1:20:49
they have them. Instead, the senior citizens have made these
1:20:51
other guys look like nerdy dipshits and then
1:20:53
bring in the stooges to do
1:20:55
their light work. 278 don't
1:21:00
know. There was more
1:21:02
poker. That's when Deby
1:21:04
Assi who never spoke nor
1:21:06
was barely even seen except in this instance. Lost a bunch of money
1:21:11
to Baron Corbin and then
1:21:13
our arrest took the money. And Ron Simmons said,
1:21:16
damn. And we were
1:21:18
almost two
1:21:19
hours into the show.
1:21:21
He took all the money. The IRS came
1:21:23
and took all the money and gave him back one bill. It's just bad comedy.
1:21:27
This is This is Vince comedy.
1:21:30
Is
1:21:30
this Vince comedy? Wouldn't there have been
1:21:33
any kind of
1:21:36
young babyface that Sean Michaels
1:21:38
may have come out and given a heartfelt coaching speech
1:21:40
to about how, you know, I
1:21:42
I was my own worst enemy.
1:21:47
But I straightened up and people counted me down, but
1:21:49
but I came back and you came to
1:21:51
or something like that, or
1:21:53
is there not You know, the
1:21:55
the who did who did
1:21:57
the last upset on the
1:21:59
program? Is there not a way
1:22:01
that x power
1:22:02
you go? Not Oh, well, yeah. Is there a way of and that
1:22:04
Xbox could not have congratulated
1:22:06
a kid like ricochet for
1:22:09
that big win that
1:22:11
he got, what is Take your legends
1:22:13
and let them do their stuff, but apply them
1:22:15
in a positive way to
1:22:18
the to the younger
1:22:20
talent. To where they interact like
1:22:22
equals. And the the only guy they didn't well,
1:22:24
I won't say the other Hogan
1:22:27
didn't get any on him. Rick
1:22:30
Flaire made his entrance came out in Philadelphia in that suit.
1:22:32
My God. Rick
1:22:35
had such great style
1:22:39
and fashion sense, back in
1:22:41
the eighties, Michael's from Kansas City.
1:22:43
No. He was like a
1:22:46
psychedelic cow. I tell you I tell you
1:22:48
what, it did look like
1:22:50
some type of LSD
1:22:55
written cattle experiment. When he said, you know, I'm styling it.
1:22:57
As soon as he said styling, I said, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Look
1:22:59
at you. Look
1:23:02
at the
1:23:02
state of you. Look at the state of you, but but he came
1:23:05
out dressed as he was and
1:23:07
made a nice little speech
1:23:09
to Philadelphia and
1:23:12
introduced Charlotte And at least they
1:23:14
let him be serious and not be embarrassed or silly or have to do and
1:23:16
Charlotte comes out and Rick went
1:23:18
back and Charlotte went to the ring.
1:23:22
Called her the greatest women's wrestler of all time. There
1:23:25
you can make a case for that,
1:23:27
and I would think that she
1:23:29
would have to be his
1:23:31
favorite anyway. So I don't know
1:23:33
that anybody's gonna sue him for misrepresentation on
1:23:36
a wrestling
1:23:39
program. But then Charlotte cuts the
1:23:41
promo and then Bianca comes
1:23:44
out. And she's happy and
1:23:46
skipping and twirling her hair as
1:23:48
usual. And as they
1:23:50
got in the ring, one is obviously the raw champion. The other one's the smackdown champion.
1:23:55
And it just As you stand
1:23:57
there looking at it, they're both wearing the identical same championship belt, just
1:24:00
one is blue
1:24:02
and one is red. And
1:24:05
that's just so fucking stupid. No wonder nobody
1:24:07
gets over as a champion anymore.
1:24:10
There's so many of.
1:24:12
And they
1:24:13
look the same. Every belt looks exactly the same.
1:24:15
It just different color for the different brands. It
1:24:20
is They violate Vince,
1:24:22
before he left, was violating
1:24:24
the rules that he
1:24:26
made fifteen, twenty years ago.
1:24:29
That when he was in his right
1:24:31
mind that she shouldn't violate. And then Bianca says she runs
1:24:33
raw even though Charlotte may be the champion to smackdown and then
1:24:36
here comes Drew
1:24:39
Ella DeVille, and she knocks both of them. And Bambi
1:24:41
Bianca says, well, if you
1:24:43
want to, then you get in the ring
1:24:45
here with me and let's set a list or whatever. And as
1:24:47
soon as in it, they go to
1:24:50
the break. I tell entrances and
1:24:52
promos. And if anybody actually starts
1:24:54
to fucking fight, they go to
1:24:56
commercial. So they come back
1:24:58
with the match that apparently nobody cares about, and Bianca
1:25:04
one and then started cutting
1:25:06
promo again. And that's when Alexis Bliss popped
1:25:09
up on the
1:25:12
screen. Alexis. What I say? Alexis
1:25:14
Bliss. Well, do you know that sounds better? You think Alexis sounds better than Alexa?
1:25:20
Alexis Bliss. Alexa Bliss.
1:25:22
Alexis Bliss pops up, and she does the spooky
1:25:28
promo. And she doesn't need boy
1:25:30
howdy. She's gonna blob she's gonna ripper fucking limb from limb.
1:25:35
So now, again, as
1:25:37
we've noted on the
1:25:39
last program now, we
1:25:41
gotta put up with
1:25:43
this little fucking eighty pound blonde pixie being
1:25:45
a supernatural creature also along with Bray Wyatt and the rest of
1:25:48
the game. I
1:25:51
would like to see if she's a puppet or
1:25:53
not. I wonder if somebody could stick their hand
1:25:55
up her rear
1:25:57
end, motivate her to move
1:25:59
around.
1:25:59
Maybe uncle Howdy. I don't
1:26:02
know. Maybe maybe Captain
1:26:03
Howdy. Anyway, they did another
1:26:06
Cody pad. Again, they go from
1:26:09
The ridiculous to the sublime, as soon as you say
1:26:11
this stupid shit that goes on
1:26:13
as phony fucking program
1:26:15
and everybody's Jack and
1:26:19
around, and then they'll throw in the Cody package.
1:26:21
And it it belongs
1:26:24
on ABC's wide world
1:26:26
of SPORTS OR NBC
1:26:28
NETWORK PROGRAMME OR FOX
1:26:30
SPORTS OR IT'S SERIOUS AND
1:26:32
IT'S DONE WELL. And it
1:26:34
could be a UFC package. And this
1:26:37
is the way you get a
1:26:39
fucking star over. But they for
1:26:41
whatever reason, they think that
1:26:44
not only Can you only be serious about
1:26:46
one or two things at a time, but that
1:26:49
they're convinced, I
1:26:52
guess, that all the bad comedy
1:26:54
and silly phoniness on the rest of the program doesn't damage
1:26:56
the few times that
1:26:59
they
1:26:59
get it right with
1:27:01
something like this. But if
1:27:03
they had a program that they in any way
1:27:05
took seriously
1:27:06
on the rest of it,
1:27:09
These packages that already stand out would get even more over
1:27:11
because there wouldn't be people going
1:27:16
well. I almost believe in that,
1:27:18
but the rest of this chart on the cover of the video game and doing the conversion of the video
1:27:20
game is in
1:27:23
twenty twenty three. John Cena,
1:27:25
the guy that only wrestled once for the WWE in twenty
1:27:28
twenty 278.
1:27:32
It's a rib. That
1:27:34
can't be Roman Reigns.
1:27:36
It can't even
1:27:39
be Brachales nor it's I
1:27:41
love John Cena. He's a big star, but that's the problem.
1:27:43
He's a big star, but not for them anymore. But
1:27:47
that's the only person they put on to cover the video game
1:27:50
that anybody knows who the fuck they
1:27:52
are. Because every
1:27:55
all the other ones are playing
1:27:57
stooges for the senior citizens and they over
1:27:59
the hill gang. When
1:28:01
I put myself
1:28:04
on TV, In my fifties,
1:28:06
it was an an as an announcer to make matches and then
1:28:12
runs scared of the
1:28:14
wrestlers if they were mad at matches I made.
1:28:20
So John Cena is the cover
1:28:22
boy and the commercial spokesperson for the brand new
1:28:27
video game featuring all the top talent. This is what
1:28:29
I'm led to believe by what
1:28:31
I just saw. I
1:28:34
take a
1:28:35
sip of Sprite and move
1:28:37
on. Okay.
1:28:38
So the mews was in
1:28:41
the ring, And and he rants for about twenty seconds
1:28:43
about where's my raw thirty moment? Why not
1:28:45
part of this show?
1:28:48
And then Kevin
1:28:50
Owens comes in to ring from behind and
1:28:52
just boots him in the gut
1:28:54
and stunners him. Boom and down he
1:28:57
goes and then Owens cuts a promo.
1:28:59
On Roman reigns on the royal rumble and
1:29:01
he got fired up and finished
1:29:03
that promo and just then
1:29:05
missed and staggered up. So he turned around, booted mezzanine
1:29:07
gun 278 stuttered him again.
1:29:10
At least it's they're
1:29:14
both current guys, And
1:29:16
then it was time
1:29:18
for our main event. Brian?
1:29:22
For the United States heavyweight championship,
1:29:26
new disqualification, Austin
1:29:29
Theory versus Bobby
1:29:31
Lachely. This has been advertised all
1:29:33
throughout the program. This is there's
1:29:36
been problems with theory and lastly
1:29:38
in the past when they've interacted
1:29:40
with each
1:29:41
other. Hey. Earlier in the show, they had
1:29:43
MVP and lastly backstage and MVP is trying to talk to him and lastly won't really hear him. think that was the
1:29:45
firmware it came up.
1:29:47
And MVP goes, Tonight,
1:29:50
you will message no disqualification. You know
1:29:52
what that
1:29:53
means? And I almost thought he was
1:29:55
gonna say yes. Because
1:29:58
he set it up to say what you can't. You know
1:30:01
what that means? Jesus. And actually,
1:30:03
and I must have missed that. I
1:30:05
must have turned my head and missed that
1:30:07
pretape earlier in the program. But the
1:30:10
so the main event
1:30:12
for
1:30:13
the United States title
1:30:15
They finally get them headed to the ring
1:30:17
with about twenty minutes left on the
1:30:19
278, but by the time they
1:30:21
do the in ring introductions and
1:30:24
etcetera etcetera, They ring the
1:30:26
bell for the main event, the title match on his three hour
1:30:28
program. There's
1:30:32
a little over ten minutes
1:30:34
left on the air. They basically,
1:30:39
a laseous bumps Theory
1:30:41
a time. It bumps him to the
1:30:43
floor and rattles him off the barrier and the ring
1:30:46
post, and they go to the break in under two
1:30:48
minutes. 278 they're
1:30:51
in break for fucking three minutes, so
1:30:53
they do thirty minute long promo segments,
1:30:55
but the main event
1:30:58
championship match. As soon as it starts,
1:31:00
boom. They come back from the
1:31:02
break and theory was used in
1:31:04
a chair, whackin' a shit out
1:31:06
of last right in front of the referee, they're not five
1:31:09
minutes in, and we didn't see
1:31:11
half of that. And then he
1:31:13
goes goes out and pulls out
1:31:15
a table and lides a
1:31:18
table under out from under the ring and puts it in a ring, and I'm rapidly losing
1:31:20
interest because now they actually
1:31:22
go to another commercial break after
1:31:27
about less than three minutes of match. So there's
1:31:29
this title match is going
1:31:32
on in
1:31:34
commercial. And they're under
1:31:36
five minutes in. They've already got chairs and
1:31:38
tables pulled out and in the middle
1:31:40
of the fucking thing. And then they
1:31:42
come back with three minutes on
1:31:45
the air. And,
1:31:47
lastly, superplex's theory off
1:31:50
the top rope, apparently, this is his comeback. There's two tables in the ring and
1:31:52
they do a short
1:31:54
little thirty second bit where
1:31:59
they tease going through putting the other
1:32:01
one through them. Like, that's such a big
1:32:03
goddamn deal you'd never
1:32:06
seen before. And then finally,
1:32:08
Ashley just picks theory up and dumps
1:32:10
him through a table and suddenly
1:32:13
music hits. And here comes
1:32:16
Brooklistener. It Brooklistener
1:32:21
comes out Again, I wanna stress to you, the main
1:32:23
event, US title, 278 main
1:32:26
event guys, Theory, and
1:32:28
LASHLEY, on
1:32:31
to roster full time gas currently. So far
1:32:33
their title match, they've
1:32:36
seen about five
1:32:38
or six minutes of it on
1:32:40
television, most of it's been
1:32:43
in commercial break. And then
1:32:45
Broadges comes out and fucking
1:32:47
stops slashly and picks him up and
1:32:49
gives him an f five, and then grabs theory
1:32:51
and picks him up and gives him
1:32:53
an f five on top of
1:32:56
Ashley. And then
1:32:58
my DVR froze because
1:33:00
it was the top of the
1:33:02
eleven o'clock hour, but I assume Since they were
1:33:04
already down there, he went ahead and pissed in their mouths.
1:33:07
Is that what happened next? I actually don't know
1:33:10
because they went off the air
1:33:11
quick. My DVR didn't squeeze. I got a little bit
1:33:12
at the end, but they were off the air pretty quickly. I
1:33:14
think they had run out of time. So
1:33:19
They had three hours, but they don't have enough time
1:33:22
for the main event or the angle
1:33:27
afterwards and basically another part time
1:33:29
real star from the
1:33:31
previous generation or
1:33:34
two comes in and in
1:33:37
the space of twenty seconds beats
1:33:39
up both guys in
1:33:42
the US title match and leaves them stacked up on top
1:33:44
of each other. And
1:33:46
they're the young full time guys
1:33:48
and theory the guy of the
1:33:50
future. I understand again, Brocklessner will sell
1:33:53
you tickets. He's biggest box office
1:33:55
traction in the business. May
1:33:58
depending on whether seen is even in
1:34:01
the business or
1:34:04
not. But So
1:34:08
my closing thought
1:34:10
of raw thirty was What
1:34:16
the fuck? If if they ever called me to come
1:34:18
back, I'm gonna ask who I get to beat up.
1:34:20
278
1:34:22
last time we saw
1:34:25
Brock was the Saudi
1:34:27
Arabia show where he
1:34:29
beat
1:34:31
lastly. Right? I think so. So obviously,
1:34:33
he had he's got a
1:34:35
gated. He's got a grudge. He's
1:34:37
fast enough. He didn't beat him
1:34:39
in 278 abates. Beat him
1:34:42
up and beat up theory too.
1:34:44
It's that wasn't even
1:34:46
shooting an angle for a match.
1:34:50
As much as just here, Brock's gonna
1:34:53
come out and and do something shocking
1:34:55
that people will remember. Who
1:34:57
gives a fuck if it hurts
1:34:59
our Current talent or Cornette. so
1:35:03
those are my
1:35:06
thoughts and comments. I if
1:35:09
they were attempting to
1:35:11
sell the WWE of Nineteen
1:35:15
ninety nine, they did a great job. But if they're attempting
1:35:18
to sell the WWE of twenty twenty
1:35:20
three, They
1:35:23
just buried
1:35:23
almost everybody's coming back next week. No, you're
1:35:26
wrong. They were trying
1:35:26
to sell the WWE of nineteen ninety
1:35:29
nine. They fell to that too.
1:35:30
Well, that's true because and nobody
1:35:33
looks the same. It's why I'm
1:35:35
not doing this shit anymore. Nobody
1:35:38
looks the same. You actually look better. Everyone else is going the other way. Well, and
1:35:39
I'm gonna keep it that way.
1:35:42
I'm gonna be right over here looking
1:35:44
better.
1:35:47
Apparently, everybody that doesn't get out
1:35:49
of the wrestling business looks like shit.
1:35:51
Just think about if you
1:35:54
would say yes. To one of these offers that come to one of these things.
1:35:56
And you could be sitting there in the
1:35:58
background with holding a tennis racket for
1:36:01
no good reason while people are playing poker.
1:36:03
What? I I don't understand the the
1:36:06
I mean, in all
1:36:08
honesty and in
1:36:10
all sincerity. If if I
1:36:13
just needed the payoff, I guess
1:36:15
I'd go to do whatever, 278
1:36:19
as a professional and as
1:36:21
a veteran and as anybody
1:36:23
any of these guys who
1:36:25
had legitimate names in
1:36:28
the business. I would say if
1:36:30
you call me to come
1:36:32
and do your television
1:36:34
program, what would you like me to do? Can
1:36:36
I be a meaningful part of it?
1:36:39
Can I help further one
1:36:42
of your issues or programs, or can
1:36:44
I help get one
1:36:45
of your talents over, or get
1:36:48
interest in a specific thing
1:36:50
your guard, whatever? No.
1:36:51
Well, no. The three hour show, you have thirty seconds. Here's
1:36:53
the line we wrote for you. But that's what
1:36:56
I'm saying. I
1:36:58
would say if if I can't, why do I wanna just come
1:37:00
there and sit in a and play
1:37:02
poker or fly
1:37:02
somewhere, sit around a building all day
1:37:05
to visit, old friends, that might
1:37:07
not be bad, but to it
1:37:10
demeans the the person you were
1:37:15
at one point, when you're just being seen as background
1:37:17
father and or, you know,
1:37:20
a person sitting around a
1:37:22
table without even speaking, call me
1:37:24
when when I can do something for
1:37:26
you and if I can't, then you don't need to call because but I I don't
1:37:31
understand why People just go and just I'll
1:37:33
be sitting and catering all day. Well, it's
1:37:35
an easy pay off. Fuck.
1:37:37
It's been easier 278 stay
1:37:40
fucking home. Makes you look
1:37:42
bad. That's my thought. Well,
1:37:47
that was WWE. Raw
1:37:48
thirty or Raw x, x, and perhaps
1:37:50
you're looking for a transition ladies
1:37:55
and gentlemen. Perhaps. Hi and hello. You wanna
1:37:57
just cut right through the crap and get to a transition
1:37:59
to a wonderful sponsor
1:38:02
of this year show.
1:38:04
What would you do, Jim?
1:38:06
I'll tell you what I would do.
1:38:08
I would I would
1:38:10
look forward to the next time
1:38:14
That magic day of the
1:38:16
month when my box of awesome
1:38:18
shows up from bespoke post. That's
1:38:20
what I would do. I would look
1:38:22
forward to that because we talk about these
1:38:24
fine people and we have argued at length and
1:38:26
vehemently about how to pronounce their name I
1:38:31
say bespoke. You say bespoke.
1:38:33
But nevertheless, you say
1:38:36
tomato. I say tomato. We all say,
1:38:38
you need to open up your box of
1:38:40
awesome. Because the people
1:38:42
at bespoke post hand curate the items that
1:38:45
go in these
1:38:47
boxes of awesomeness, every
1:38:50
item from a small business that
1:38:53
you might not have ever heard
1:38:55
of otherwise, but they're
1:38:57
supporting those small businesses and there
1:38:59
are opportunities to fulfill the American dream
1:39:01
and and grow and expand
1:39:03
and become wealthy and
1:39:06
become multinational conglomerates and
1:39:08
then cheat on their taxes
1:39:10
and not pay their proper share and then hide all their money
1:39:13
in offshore
1:39:16
accounts and in various Caribbean islands or
1:39:18
in Switzerland, but right now, they're just little
1:39:20
mom and pop shops like you and
1:39:22
me and all of our friends. It just
1:39:26
trying to make a living and doing the best they can.
1:39:28
And ninety percent of everything
1:39:30
that comes in your box
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cut through the crap. Let's get right to
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the big stories
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of the day. Jim, apparently,
1:42:39
the bellows are upset with
1:42:43
WWE over Raw XXX. Well, yeah, because they
1:42:45
weren't on it. They didn't get to beat anybody
1:42:47
up. Were they supposed to
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beat somebody up? Or were they were they upset because they were gonna
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be the only legends not to get to beat
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anybody
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for it, weren't they not? I think as far
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as much. Were they not?
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Weren't they not? Were they
1:43:04
not. They've in
1:43:06
our wings, LIB, in
1:43:08
our ducks. They went to New York
1:43:10
and apparently took in an afternoon Broadway
1:43:13
play rather than going to raw because they were in a snip
1:43:15
about how they were to be utilized
1:43:17
is the story that's
1:43:20
going around. Is
1:43:22
this is this valid? That's what I'm trying to figure out. We have a a few articles I'm trying to get
1:43:24
through here to
1:43:27
figure out 278 Crocs
1:43:29
of the story. The wrestling news has not
1:43:31
covered Bella drama of this nobody on
1:43:36
the Bella eat this week? No. We're looking
1:43:38
for someone. If someone out there is obsessed with the bellies, let us know and we'll point you in another
1:43:41
direction.
1:43:43
But here is Apparently, audio of the bell
1:43:46
is on Instagram talking
1:43:47
about raw thirty last night as it took place
1:43:49
or right after it. At some
1:43:51
point the same night, of
1:43:54
raw XXX. Another good memory on raw. How did they showcase anything from the women's
1:43:59
evolution? But also the way
1:44:01
we did our master The Sasha Banksen. They're like,
1:44:03
we can. And the fellas. There's a bunch of us in places. Shailies
1:44:07
is too over. And
1:44:10
we can't say her name. There's a
1:44:12
couple other girls and Rea. There's a
1:44:14
bunch of us that don't wanna show.
1:44:17
That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. When you do what they
1:44:19
don't wanna do, it's not gonna show you. That's what
1:44:21
you do. You know, another
1:44:24
good mess. Alright.
1:44:26
Well, there Oh my god.
1:44:28
And can could they
1:44:30
take time out from sniffing
1:44:33
the bouquet of their own
1:44:35
farts to be any more full of
1:44:37
themselves. To play
1:44:38
devil's advocate
1:44:39
here, they
1:44:41
are correct in
1:44:43
the sense that When you think of
1:44:45
the montage they had on raw, the great highlights throughout the years of
1:44:48
raw. You
1:44:48
know, we said before there was
1:44:49
no Sasha Banks when you really think about it. No
1:44:52
Sasha Banks
1:44:54
No A.
1:44:55
J. Lee.
1:44:56
No page. No bellows.
1:44:58
Pretty
1:45:00
much everyone out. Hold
1:45:02
on the the first three are understandable because
1:45:04
there's been issue. There continues
1:45:06
to be an issue with
1:45:10
Sasha Banks. I know they're they're friends,
1:45:12
but she's the one that
1:45:14
walked out. They haven't settled
1:45:16
this apparently, so they ain't
1:45:19
gonna fucking promote her. That's not
1:45:21
hard to figure out. But again, even if
1:45:23
it's the message, the messenger is
1:45:26
somewhat all the
1:45:28
great matches
1:45:30
and moments of the bellas.
1:45:33
Is that what they
1:45:35
were looking for or just for the women
1:45:37
in general? They make it have done more with
1:45:39
the women, but Would the fellas have
1:45:42
still been a part of all the great moments of female wrestling?
1:45:45
The fellas not
1:45:48
Trish Stratus? Not
1:45:50
whoever the fuck, but the bellas. Yeah. Johnny Ace wasn't in the video either.
1:45:57
He's in there. He's in her home videos from the Christmas celebration at the house. I wonder if was
1:46:00
frosty this year. He was
1:46:02
sitting in the corner drinking Frosty,
1:46:07
the dynamic dude, got
1:46:10
a chilly reception that
1:46:14
day. But anyway, but yeah, so it's
1:46:16
the messengers, not the the message. They could
1:46:18
have showed more of the women, but
1:46:20
would the Bella still have been a
1:46:22
part of anything great? were fellas of was great? Well,
1:46:24
again, it's subjective.
1:46:26
I was never a really
1:46:28
big fan of the fellas.
1:46:30
I appreciated that they had fans
1:46:33
that they were a big part
1:46:35
of the show and that they dated very powerful people
1:46:37
on the show, but I was never a big fellas fan. What
1:46:39
what was the line of
1:46:43
talent is not sexually transmitted. They could that
1:46:45
was an a j lead clip.
1:46:47
Right? They could've
1:46:51
fucking aired that. Now they didn't hear that. I'm trying
1:46:53
to see if there's anything else to this story. I'm trying
1:46:56
to read through this article.
1:46:58
This article doesn't say anything. This
1:47:00
article. Just
1:47:02
that people were upset that the women weren't represented more on the show, the women's history on
1:47:04
raw wasn't shown
1:47:07
more in the thirtieth
1:47:10
anniversary retrospective video. Well, goddamn. Okay. But it's an hour and a half at minimum on every
1:47:11
other week's program. So at
1:47:14
least we got a break this
1:47:16
week.
1:47:19
Wanna ask you about another story coming out of WWE.
1:47:21
A lot of listeners have sent
1:47:23
in various questions and the story
1:47:25
is kinda morphed over the
1:47:27
last few
1:47:28
days. Originally, I believe
1:47:30
it was a article from Rifle Select, that Steve Austin
1:47:33
versus Roman
1:47:36
Reigns was pitched as a match
1:47:38
for WrestleMania. Oh. That Austin's camp was approached with the possibility
1:47:43
of it happening.
1:47:44
And there was a lot of money
1:47:46
apparently offered the stone called Steve Austin.
1:47:48
Dave meltzer has
1:47:51
reported, I believe, but
1:47:53
the match pitched and I
1:47:56
can't believe this would
1:47:57
happen. Was Steve Austin
1:47:59
versus Brocklessner? What do
1:48:00
you think about the idea they're pitching Steve Austin
1:48:03
matches or ideas for WrestleMania and do you think? We'll see
1:48:05
Steve
1:48:05
Austin after
1:48:06
his big return last year.
1:48:09
Well, it lends credence to the idea that rock has
1:48:11
told him, I just can't make it
1:48:14
this year, guys, because
1:48:17
you know, obviously, Steve was just there. And again, I'm not gonna
1:48:19
say anything bad about Steve Austin.
1:48:24
The biggest attraction in
1:48:26
the history of the But he's
1:48:29
again, he looked great
1:48:31
last year physically for
1:48:34
a guy his age and
1:48:36
what is he? He's in his
1:48:39
fifties. I can't remember. But To
1:48:41
be Steve Austin against broadcaster or Roman
1:48:44
Reigns, I don't
1:48:47
know if that's Something he
1:48:50
wants to do or can do at this point, and
1:48:53
what are
1:48:56
your finishes? Besides
1:48:58
other I mean, obviously, Roman Reigns would
1:49:00
have to beat
1:49:03
Steve Austin with Brock It
1:49:06
may be a little more up in the
1:49:08
air, but at the same time, I don't see
1:49:10
Austin with a bad neck taken in
1:49:13
f five. And I don't know that you would want
1:49:15
to, especially with what they just did with Brock. You would want to fucking
1:49:17
kick Brock in the gut
1:49:19
and stunner And
1:49:23
boom, 123, see you later,
1:49:25
because Austin, that may very well be
1:49:27
the last match he'd
1:49:29
ever have. So
1:49:33
that's awful. These
1:49:37
dream matches can be a
1:49:40
nightmare past writing the names
1:49:42
down if you have Steve
1:49:44
Austin. If Vince McMahon says,
1:49:46
give him whatever he wants, we need him this year. And you have Steve Austin. Who would
1:49:47
you book
1:49:51
him against? What makes
1:49:53
sense? Well, depending
1:49:54
on who they wanted him to
1:50:00
interact with, Can you see Steve
1:50:02
Austin and Sami Zane against Roman Reigns and
1:50:08
Solo. Get's appointed. I I don't know
1:50:10
if Solo's ready for that spot,
1:50:12
but may Well, the
1:50:15
the pro is the other two whoosos. It's a tag team. Maybe they could
1:50:17
play on one of the whoosos because the
1:50:19
other one falls out
1:50:22
with Sammy, whatever the case You know, again,
1:50:24
the problem is and all
1:50:26
those guys really would be
1:50:28
part time because Romans now
1:50:31
is part time. But in
1:50:33
no universe, could you have Steve Austin go over Roman
1:50:35
reigns at this point in time? And
1:50:41
Honestly and truthfully, I don't see
1:50:43
any reason to have Steve
1:50:45
Austin wrestle at this point
1:50:47
in his life unless
1:50:51
he's gonna win. Because then it would
1:50:53
just make the people feel bad. It's
1:50:55
not like Roman
1:50:57
would get heat For beating a beloved
1:51:00
legend, it's just people would feel bad about
1:51:02
the whole thing because Austin has moved on
1:51:05
for so long. With the who
1:51:08
what else are the other match they
1:51:10
were to Austin and Brock? Yeah. That no.
1:51:12
Jeez. There's no way because Brock can't be
1:51:14
Brock if he can't throw people around and
1:51:17
there's no way that Austin could
1:51:19
or should, won't even take the chance
1:51:21
on that. With his neck. So it
1:51:23
would yes. When when fans
1:51:28
hear Steve Austin
1:51:30
versus Brocklessner, they instantly visualize both
1:51:34
guys in their prime
1:51:38
and all the spots they could then, the
1:51:40
things they could do and blah
1:51:42
blah blah, that's the way Marx
1:51:44
look at it. And, unfortunately, as
1:51:46
we've established, in a lot of cases these days, the marks are in the writing
1:51:52
room. They don't understand
1:51:54
what it takes to actually put that together and
1:51:57
how each guy
1:52:00
would have to be to
1:52:02
be themselves and give the people what they expect and see
1:52:05
in a blah
1:52:08
blah blah So I am
1:52:10
Austin is not an answer to
1:52:12
their questions 278 their
1:52:15
problem as far as having
1:52:18
a main event singles match, I don't
1:52:20
think this year. Jim, another question I
1:52:22
want to ask you about something
1:52:25
that recently happened in wrestling?
1:52:26
This past weekend at the Yokohama Arena
1:52:29
in Japan, Oh, mama
1:52:32
Yokohama. And an event
1:52:34
titled Great Mudah Final Buy
1:52:36
Buy
1:52:36
What?
1:52:36
The great Buddha in what was built as his final
1:52:38
in ring appearance as the great Buddha.
1:52:43
Teamed with sting and Darby Allen to defeat
1:52:45
Marafucci, Hakushi, and akira.
1:52:48
We've
1:52:48
had a few emails
1:52:50
sent in about this. What are your
1:52:52
thoughts on the legacy of the great
1:52:54
Muuta, and any thoughts on the great Muuta in general? What the but they called
1:52:57
it Muuta's final
1:53:00
buy buy Title Great
1:53:02
Moon of Final Buy Buy. Anyway, No,
1:53:08
Muuto. My God, he was huge at that period
1:53:10
of time in WCW that, you
1:53:13
know, he was only here
1:53:15
for a year, but people
1:53:17
remember him fondly, and it's like he was, you know, like a lot of the other guys where he would
1:53:19
just hear, you know, for
1:53:24
a long stretch, but it was a
1:53:26
short period of time, but he made a ton of difference. And that was
1:53:28
one of the the
1:53:30
one bright spot maybe of
1:53:33
new talent and that type of thing that Turner Broadcasting was
1:53:36
able to
1:53:40
bring the people when they first
1:53:42
took over Crockett's company. And I loved watching his matches and
1:53:45
even a nice
1:53:47
guy back in those days, I have
1:53:50
not obviously seen him in person in thirty years since he, you know, he went back
1:53:55
to Japan. But just for the moon
1:53:57
salt, the moon a lot of
1:53:59
people can't imagine The
1:54:03
Moon Salt being is over and
1:54:05
being is talked about. As it
1:54:07
was when Muuto was the
1:54:09
only one doing
1:54:10
it, He also did it the best. You know, the fact that
1:54:12
we've seen all these guys over the last thirty something
1:54:14
years do the moon salt and his was
1:54:17
still the most impactful, destroyed his knees,
1:54:19
but looked incredible. And I made mention of
1:54:21
the you know, and then Vader, the
1:54:23
four hundred pound man, and
1:54:26
Terry Funk, the over fifty man
1:54:28
then the women and then the mid
1:54:30
jits. And then everybody proved they could do a moonsault and adding were shit. But
1:54:35
Muuto just his speed in his
1:54:37
athleticism. And we've mentioned this before, the people started taking to him even
1:54:39
though he was a
1:54:42
member of Gary Hart's. You
1:54:45
know, stable. And of
1:54:47
course, Gary had the history
1:54:51
with the great kabuki. So there was the tie
1:54:53
in with his mook his mooki.
1:54:56
His mooki is
1:54:59
Muuta Kabuki's son or is
1:55:01
Muki Kabuki's son or whatever
1:55:03
the case. But
1:55:06
they were eventually And I thought this would
1:55:08
be a good idea. They were gonna turn
1:55:10
mood to babyface because the kids loved him.
1:55:12
There were still kids watching
1:55:15
wrestling at that time. And he was
1:55:17
so exciting. And he was different. But, of course, at that point, Gary,
1:55:19
I think, had convinced well, it killed your
1:55:21
brother if they turn your heel or turn
1:55:23
your baby face, he
1:55:26
didn't wanna lose Muuto. But, you
1:55:28
know, I think he got homesick, whatever
1:55:31
the fuck. They beat him Four
1:55:33
times in one night or three times in one night at that round robin
1:55:35
tournament at Starcade eighty nine
1:55:38
and Future shock. Future
1:55:42
shock. He was shocked. Alright. Because when they came up with that,
1:55:44
and I heard was
1:55:46
pushing that a lot because
1:55:50
he thought it was sports oriented,
1:55:52
which was fun, but as you know,
1:55:54
how are we gonna figure these
1:55:56
matches with four
1:55:59
singles and Somebody's gonna have to lose
1:56:01
a lot in one night and it was all of our top guys.
1:56:03
And you should have seen trying to get
1:56:05
the job out of
1:56:07
the road warriors. And so they they beat Muuto three
1:56:09
times because he was the only one that couldn't fucking argue
1:56:12
in English. And,
1:56:15
you know, he got disenchanted
1:56:17
and left shortly thereafter, and
1:56:19
there you go. But
1:56:23
but no. I I
1:56:25
did I did like Muuto as a
1:56:27
talent. Obviously, he had a stellar
1:56:29
and hall of fame career
1:56:31
in Japan was one of most integral parts of
1:56:36
of you know, Japanese wrestling for twenty years
1:56:38
after that or whatever and still obviously that they just had
1:56:40
his retirement to
1:56:43
this day, but you know, completely
1:56:47
different talent as
1:56:52
Muuto as he was as Muuto. And then he got
1:56:54
the Muuto gimmick over there too where he could switch and become
1:56:56
Muuto instead of
1:56:59
Muuto and
1:57:00
Well, Jim on that topic, we can
1:57:02
keep talking about this. I just wanna say also on this show once again titled Great Muuto Final Buy Buy Buy.
1:57:07
The Yokohama Arena
1:57:08
He challenged New Japan's Naito to
1:57:10
be his opponent for the last match
1:57:15
of Kiji Muuto at the Tokyo Dome
1:57:17
on February twenty first. So that's the main event for the Tokyo Dome February.
1:57:20
Wait
1:57:22
a minute. Their their coming back and running the Tokyo again six
1:57:24
weeks after they just ran the Tokyo
1:57:26
Dome? They're running let me
1:57:29
just see what I
1:57:31
could find here. Yeah. It is a
1:57:33
joint new Japan. Actually, talent from New Japan, Noah, Dragon Gate, all
1:57:36
Japan,
1:57:39
Tokyo, Yoshi Pro, And DDT will all
1:57:41
be a part of this show. So it's a joint venture,
1:57:44
and
1:57:47
it is Just trying to see if there's a name for. The other one was
1:57:49
Great Muuto final buy buy. There's no
1:57:51
official name. This this one is Great Muuto.
1:57:53
Hello. Again, I was only lying. Oh, this
1:57:56
is pro
1:57:57
wrestling last love. A
1:57:59
pro wrestling last love. Kiji Muuto,
1:58:00
grand final pro
1:58:03
wrestling last love.
1:58:06
Well, I hope he
1:58:09
finds his long lost, last love,
1:58:11
and whatever else he's looking for
1:58:13
in the way of happiness.
1:58:15
But yes, so So he could have two
1:58:17
retirements because he was two individual personalities. You know what? He
1:58:20
came back
1:58:21
several times after
1:58:24
nineteen ninety he would come back for I
1:58:26
got pay per view and then he
1:58:27
would disappear again. Even I get into Nitro, he would show up. It was
1:58:27
never the same. Like,
1:58:30
there was just a moment
1:58:32
there. From eighty nine
1:58:34
into early ninety when the fans started turning a babyface and then he was he was
1:58:40
one of the most promising, one of
1:58:42
the most special, one of the most intriguing rest was in the entire business, and
1:58:45
I never felt that
1:58:47
spark ever
1:58:48
again. Whenever he would
1:58:50
appear on WCW TV for a pay per view or whatever it may be, it was never there again me.
1:58:52
Well, it's because
1:58:55
it you'd couldn't
1:58:57
do that just coming in for a shot and then leaving
1:58:59
again. It was the and the first time around, it was the shock of seeing
1:59:02
him and how good he was and
1:59:04
how fast
1:59:06
he was and how he could move and etcetera, and
1:59:08
that slowed down over the years
1:59:10
too. But, you know, the the
1:59:13
first time that he was the
1:59:16
only guy really that that TBS
1:59:18
had brought in or that WCW
1:59:21
had brought in under Turner, that
1:59:23
hadn't been there before that people really started
1:59:25
talking about and was
1:59:27
really getting over.
1:59:29
Everybody else was You know, left over from
1:59:31
Crockett. They were over from that, but TBS
1:59:34
wouldn't get any new names over at that
1:59:36
time. Other
1:59:38
than drawing ability, Completely, other than drawing
1:59:40
ability, he was w c
1:59:42
w's nineteen eighty two
1:59:46
Jimmy Snooker.
1:59:46
Yes. He had
1:59:47
the moonsault. People went crazy for it, the rest of the
1:59:50
match. He couldn't take his eyes off the things he
1:59:52
did.
1:59:53
And then
1:59:54
they started cheering for him and we never got the baby faced term. And, of course,
1:59:56
with the bay the lack
1:59:57
of drawing ability is not his fault because
2:00:00
it was turner
2:00:03
broadcasting, and they couldn't throw one to throw.
2:00:05
You have to glue and drag them through
2:00:08
Fort Knox,
2:00:10
as I've said
2:00:11
before. So He he wasn't the lone ranger. Nobody else was drawn
2:00:13
either. Jim, I have a question here
2:00:15
sent on
2:00:16
Twitter using a hashtag,
2:00:19
horny drive through from
2:00:21
Greer, with all of the
2:00:22
travel wrestlers had to do within the territories,
2:00:24
I'm curious on
2:00:27
your thoughts about why
2:00:29
RVs weren't more widely used to save on hotel and even food
2:00:32
expenses. Goddamn
2:00:36
it. No.
2:00:39
Just no.
2:00:42
I mean, you know,
2:00:44
Doctor Destiny Williams got a heck of
2:00:46
a nice customized panel van one time.
2:00:52
And some of the guys
2:00:54
had vans, but an RV, no. Not only
2:00:58
for the can you imagine the gas expense? Because
2:01:01
the gas expense would
2:01:03
have blown the expense for a
2:01:05
car out of the water. And even
2:01:07
if you got four or
2:01:10
five or six guys together,
2:01:12
then, honestly, you've you're
2:01:14
asking for trouble because you've got
2:01:18
Four, five, or six wrestlers
2:01:20
going on trips of hundreds
2:01:22
of miles with a 278
2:01:25
tight schedule. You ever try to run one
2:01:27
of those RVs a basis for
2:01:31
a couple hours? You got
2:01:34
four or five wrestlers in a fucking moving hotel
2:01:36
room. I
2:01:40
can't imagine what the after the match, you
2:01:42
know, shit would have been like. Talking about the fabulous ones had a panel
2:01:48
van. And they're they're you
2:01:50
they're driving in whatever state they're in a giant
2:01:55
you know, deadly machine weighing
2:01:57
tens of thousands of
2:02:00
pounds, you can't
2:02:02
part those things hardly anywhere. You can't go through
2:02:04
a drive through. Can you imagine pulling up
2:02:06
to a goddamn arena when the in
2:02:08
those days when the fans wanted to cut the
2:02:10
tires on the cars? And there's an RV that pulls up
2:02:12
with all the hottest heels in the
2:02:15
territory. You can't miss it. No.
2:02:20
And then a lot of
2:02:22
times we'd be flying somewhere and
2:02:24
then renting a car and driving a
2:02:26
loop of three or four miles. You know,
2:02:29
you or three or four mile, three
2:02:31
or four days. You'd have to start that RV wherever it was. You'd
2:02:34
have to take it to wherever you were gonna go next and there could
2:02:37
be no flying involved in
2:02:39
the middle. No, it
2:02:41
sounds like a nice
2:02:44
idea and I guess Cody getting
2:02:46
a bus and broadcaster getting a bus and some of these other people
2:02:48
that have done it in modern
2:02:50
times has romanticized it, but that's
2:02:56
because a, they're making
2:02:58
millions of dollars b,
2:03:00
they've got people that can put that
2:03:02
bus where it needs to be picked up and
2:03:04
they and the talent gets on it, and they
2:03:06
ride it around until they're finished, and then they get off and go home and they
2:03:08
take the bus
2:03:11
some fucking wear. Or what is 278?
2:03:13
It's a whole goddamn procedure. So and they
2:03:15
only wrestle once
2:03:18
or twice a week? Or with the the modern WWE
2:03:20
schedule before the pandemic
2:03:22
was what? The raw
2:03:26
guys would on Friday, Saturday,
2:03:28
Sunday do roll on Monday, and then be off. And
2:03:30
so at the most, they're wrestling four days a
2:03:34
week, and they're routed to where they're
2:03:36
somewhat in range
2:03:39
of the next town. It
2:03:42
it no. The
2:03:45
RV in the territory
2:03:47
days for logistically, financially, criminally,
2:03:49
none of it would have worked. Alright. Well,
2:03:51
let's get our
2:03:53
next question
2:03:56
here this one was sent to Drive,
2:03:58
sir. Can you imagine the police reports being taken out of what would have happened on that?
2:04:00
I think just the
2:04:02
simplicity of
2:04:03
handling the mileage.
2:04:06
Is the the qualifier? Yeah.
2:04:08
Who could have an RV in mid south?
2:04:10
How could it even be? We can.
2:04:14
There were there
2:04:16
were occasions. I mean, two thousand
2:04:18
miles was an easy week and
2:04:20
wrestling every
2:04:21
night, but there were occasions we
2:04:23
were in a car nearly four thousand miles in
2:04:25
a seven day period while appearing in a different
2:04:27
city every single
2:04:31
day. So that required some you
2:04:34
had to apply yourself
2:04:36
determinately on the road. You
2:04:38
couldn't be poking along in the
2:04:40
camper.
2:04:40
Jim, our next question sent via email the
2:04:42
corny drifter at gmail dot com from Kieran
2:04:47
in Southampton, England.
2:04:48
I am a merchant mariner, a cat or
2:04:50
a sailor. And I've been a big wrestling
2:04:53
fan since I
2:04:55
was a kid.
2:04:56
I've noticed over the years
2:04:58
that there's a lot of nautical terminology in wrestling. Why
2:05:04
is that? Where did it
2:05:05
start? Such examples would include when the commentators say that a
2:05:07
match is underway. Or
2:05:11
when someone who was in what wait wait. I
2:05:14
think you've been in the merchant
2:05:16
marine a little too long
2:05:18
there, pal, or what someone Or
2:05:22
when someone who
2:05:25
is
2:05:26
in their comfort zone, would
2:05:29
be referred to as their wheelhouse. Do people in
2:05:31
wrestling know what
2:05:33
these terms mean? Thank
2:05:35
you very much. But
2:05:39
he ends like luck. Thank
2:05:41
you very much. Thank you
2:05:43
very much. I think under
2:05:46
way is kind of, isn't it? Doesn't that belong to
2:05:48
the world? Doesn't everybody in any walk
2:05:50
of life say when something's going on?
2:05:53
Will it's already underway? Or it's you know,
2:05:55
happening now. I mean, it's not that big of
2:05:57
a stretch there. It's not really
2:05:59
a wrestling term. And
2:06:04
the
2:06:04
other one that he mentioned, the
2:06:06
wheelhouse, I that's again
2:06:09
something that's kind of a broad expression at
2:06:11
least here in this country where if if someone is is
2:06:13
either not familiar with something and say, well, that's not in
2:06:16
your wheelhouse or
2:06:19
if they are. Well, that's right in your wheelhouse, but that's
2:06:21
kind of a broad
2:06:23
expression for any
2:06:26
number of pursuits 278 genres
2:06:28
or careers or
2:06:31
manners of employment. Right? So
2:06:34
basically, are we just taking the piss out of this question entirely?
2:06:36
Well, the term underway, I
2:06:38
have to think anything. Any sports
2:06:43
event, any event? I mean, I can't imagine the concert
2:06:45
was already underway when
2:06:46
we got there. Hey, wrestling's using that
2:06:48
nautical term. We should start using it. I
2:06:50
don't
2:06:50
think that's the way it went. So
2:06:53
I don't know. I thought he was I thought he was gonna
2:06:55
say like, slabberknocker is a nautical term or
2:06:58
something. I don't have
2:07:00
I don't I don't want this
2:07:03
to be an anchor around our neck, this topic, but I can't
2:07:08
fathom Any reason why perhaps we
2:07:10
ought to just throw the whole subject overboard.
2:07:15
Oh, boy. I mean, alright. You do
2:07:17
that? You have fucking cracked
2:07:20
Stacy up one
2:07:22
time. His way years ago hadn't seen each
2:07:24
other long, and we pulled up to
2:07:26
a long John Silver's to get something
2:07:29
to 278, and I pulled up to
2:07:31
the fucking take order? And I said, 278,
2:07:33
boy. And she just cracked up.
2:07:35
It's
2:07:36
me and the midnight
2:07:38
used to do that a lot. When
2:07:40
we did Yamapit fighting, the original main event was gonna
2:07:42
be tank abbot versus Tatarov, a big rematch from the early days 278
2:07:47
the UFC. Before everything got screwed up because tank did a job
2:07:49
the Kimball slice and the athletic commission
2:07:51
wouldn't let him fight again. There
2:07:55
was a sponsor, and I forget who it
2:07:57
was. It's not as simple. I don't think as it's
2:07:59
a sponsor named a
2:08:00
278. But Bob Meyer
2:08:02
was had some sponsor that was willing to pay tank Abbott for the period time from
2:08:04
whatever early
2:08:05
in the year until the
2:08:07
pay per view.
2:08:11
For any interview he does, any press he does for the event.
2:08:13
He begins every sentence with a
2:08:15
hoey. A hoey. And
2:08:17
it didn't happen,
2:08:20
but I I really wish it
2:08:22
would have. It would have been
2:08:24
a disaster. I wish it would. Hey, do you
2:08:26
know
2:08:26
where a pirate keeps his buccaneers? Where's that?
2:08:30
Under his buck and
2:08:31
act. Alright. Well, let's
2:08:33
get another question here before we
2:08:35
offend the pirate audience.
2:08:37
Jim, this was sent to
2:08:39
drive thru at gmail dot
2:08:41
com from John. I've always been
2:08:43
under the assumption Perhaps incorrectly
2:08:45
that examples of cheap heat are insulting the crowd and
2:08:48
wearing the jersey
2:08:50
of a rival sports
2:08:52
team. If I'm correct, can you
2:08:54
then explain how MJF is considered the greatest heal right now,
2:08:56
given that the majority of
2:08:58
a schtick is cheap heat? Well,
2:09:04
I think the topic's more
2:09:06
about cheap heat than I've. Yes.
2:09:09
Well, the topic is here's the thing
2:09:11
a lot of people are of the opinion that there's no good cheap heat. And
2:09:17
a lot of people are of the
2:09:19
opinion, like I am, that it depends on the the context,
2:09:23
and the delivery.
2:09:24
And the the the concept
2:09:27
of cheap heat is
2:09:32
that The premier practitioners of pro
2:09:34
wrestling back in the pioneer days thought that
2:09:39
Your action should be what
2:09:41
gets your heat rather than
2:09:43
you purposely insulting
2:09:47
someone or you purposely, you know, verbally
2:09:49
attacking something or the town
2:09:51
or whatever, or you
2:09:54
purposely even doing something
2:09:56
not herbal, but
2:09:58
visual, just on purpose to make people mad, that's cheap heat.
2:10:00
And the thought
2:10:03
was the real masters could
2:10:07
get heat by just the things they did
2:10:09
in the match being themselves
2:10:11
and trying to win the match or
2:10:13
try to do their thing and the
2:10:15
people would boo that instead of, you
2:10:17
know, them having to go to the links of insulting the town
2:10:19
or the audience or
2:10:23
whatever. But at the same time, to
2:10:25
be honest with you, that
2:10:28
prevailing attitude a
2:10:30
lot of times was left
2:10:32
over from the pre TV era.
2:10:34
And and there were, you know, it it was not a thing
2:10:36
where wrestlers did long
2:10:38
promos and saliliquis on live
2:10:42
how shows to where they're insulting
2:10:44
people. With with
2:10:47
television and modern times, you've
2:10:49
got guys like an MJF of this generation or me when I was
2:10:51
doing it or Lalor was a smart ass
2:10:56
or pipers sometimes or
2:10:58
whoever was a smart ass heel. There was an annoying arrogant
2:11:04
egotistical, wise, cracking, smart
2:11:06
mouth, those people get
2:11:11
heat if you believe they are real. If you're
2:11:13
just coming out there and
2:11:16
saying, yeah,
2:11:19
the fucking Dallas Cowboys, they suck. Right? Well,
2:11:21
that's cheap heat. But
2:11:24
if if that
2:11:26
is something that you would believeably save
2:11:28
while believeably being yourself in every other
2:11:30
thing, then it's kinda it works
2:11:34
still. It works both ways. I didn't come out when I went to Texas.
2:11:36
I didn't come out first thing and say
2:11:38
the cowboy suck. I said, ah, we're
2:11:40
in Will Rogers,
2:11:43
Colosseum, the home of Will Rogers,
2:11:45
who said I've never met a man I didn't like. Well, you never met me
2:11:47
Will Rogers, and I've got as about as much
2:11:50
in common with some Calboy
2:11:52
boot wear and crap kicking Texan is
2:11:54
a marching with three heads. And
2:11:57
I got to
2:12:00
point across So it it
2:12:02
just depends. Cheap heat. I think, you know, there there has to be
2:12:04
a line. You can't
2:12:07
just do it nonstop. Zubisco
2:12:11
was the master of the stall
2:12:13
as they used to say and a lot of
2:12:15
that with cheap heat, making people
2:12:17
mad, because you won't fight. Eventually, Lalor was like the master of that. Like, an
2:12:19
MB showing that he's Yeah. Oh, yeah. He would just walk around
2:12:21
and ring someone with that microphone. I never even get
2:12:23
in a ring. Yeah.
2:12:27
And and the people got their money's worth and
2:12:29
they, you know, never notice the
2:12:31
difference. So some people can pull
2:12:33
it off in some can't and sometimes it's okay
2:12:36
and sometimes it's too far and I will
2:12:38
say one thing and then hold your thought,
2:12:41
I had mentioned several weeks ago, when they
2:12:43
had teased the concept of making
2:12:46
MJF a sympathetic figure
2:12:48
that the first couple weeks afterwards,
2:12:50
he was on the people too much.
2:12:53
Because he was trying to turn him
2:12:55
back. And he's geared back on that somewhat. got such great material, and he's
2:12:57
got such great lines, and it's always
2:13:00
great to you
2:13:03
know, adapt to people every once in a
2:13:05
while. If you keep the main gist
2:13:07
of your business on what
2:13:09
you're trying to sell a
2:13:12
ticket to, But MJF was
2:13:14
going overboard in a couple of instances there because I think he felt like he
2:13:16
had to because
2:13:19
he had been portrayed in
2:13:21
such a babyface position that he he was
2:13:23
trying to overcompensate
2:13:27
for that. Do you think cheap heat should be used the
2:13:30
same way a big spot should be in the sense that if one
2:13:32
wrestler is going out there on
2:13:34
a show and insulting the local crowd,
2:13:37
That's it. It shouldn't be multiple people
2:13:39
going out there and saying, hey, fuck you, Pittsburgh. There should be one guy the show or
2:13:42
something. Heavy. Yes.
2:13:45
No. Because what everyone shouldn't say anything at all. Not everyone on the show should be
2:13:47
allowed to speak whatsoever because that
2:13:50
means that it it matters
2:13:53
more when somebody does a main event guy or a guy that's being used or somebody
2:13:55
with something say or something
2:13:59
further along the issue. Not
2:14:02
everybody just grab the microphone and do their little three minutes of fucking open mic night
2:14:08
bitch. And a lot of time,
2:14:10
they they they can't pull it off. They're not good enough verbally.
2:14:13
It's not
2:14:16
their wheelhouse. So, no, it should
2:14:18
be, you know, limited to one or if there's a couple people
2:14:24
on the on the card that have different
2:14:26
things to say or whatever, but it shouldn't be beaten, beaten into powder over the course of
2:14:28
the same show
2:14:31
by multiple people. Well, if you
2:14:33
happen to have some cheap heat, maybe due to some chemicals,
2:14:35
some exposure, some
2:14:40
big companies, You know what? It's right in
2:14:42
the wheelhouse of a man, I know, Jim. That's right. If you have been poisoned
2:14:44
or you have been damaged or
2:14:46
you have been terminated or you have
2:14:50
exposure if you've exposed yourself
2:14:52
in any way, shape, or form,
2:14:54
this is the man you should call.
2:15:16
And out
2:15:19
my mode show or two.
2:15:22
Those are the rest.
2:15:25
What kind of exposure, were you
2:15:27
talking about, Brian earlier? Were you
2:15:29
talking about exposing yourself,
2:15:31
exposing someone
2:15:32
else?
2:15:34
Potentially exposing the double
2:15:36
exposure. Well, for the record, if you expose yourself, don't call
2:15:38
Steven Peonu. I just wanted to clarify that because you
2:15:40
said it right before the
2:15:41
Well, if he's been exposed to
2:15:43
that you be exposed you need to call Stephen P. Yes.
2:15:46
If you've exposed yourself to this
2:15:50
deadly material as your own fault. Well, you
2:15:53
what might not know when the deadly
2:15:55
material was there and then you
2:15:57
exposed yourself to it. Then you've been exposed to
2:15:59
it.
2:15:59
That's just 278 Well, but you've exposed
2:16:02
yourself to it because you put yourself in
2:16:04
that position
2:16:06
because nobody through their own carelessness told you
2:16:08
that that material was there in the
2:16:10
vicinity. And did you expose yourself
2:16:13
to it in an
2:16:15
unknowingly? You didn't know that that material
2:16:17
was there when you pulled your pants down
2:16:19
and whacked your willy right in front of everybody. If
2:16:23
it pleased the court if it pleased the court, I wanna present
2:16:25
evidence here that there was poison
2:16:27
Ivy everywhere, shit
2:16:29
unknown. That was not the place. To whack his willy.
2:16:31
Your honor, these crooks here are innocent,
2:16:33
and I'll tell you what,
2:16:36
no, and where regardless
2:16:38
of how exposed you
2:16:40
are, or are
2:16:42
not? The point is that there's
2:16:44
nothing you have done wrong. There's bad things all around.
2:16:46
You could fall into science, could fall from the heavens.
2:16:51
And land on your head
2:16:53
and hit, boy, that's a
2:16:55
grand slam. Thanks for that, Denny's. But I'll tell you whether a scientist Those
2:17:01
people in that car were
2:17:03
seeing moons over Miami all
2:17:06
day long. I'll tell you
2:17:08
that. But regardless, It's terrible and we
2:17:10
should move on and forget that that ever happened.
2:17:17
If you'd quit laughing, but I'll tell you folks whether
2:17:19
you've been whacked with a denny
2:17:22
sign or whether you've been exposed to
2:17:24
plutonium while whacking your willy or Whether
2:17:26
you're like the innocent folks down in the state of Louisiana,
2:17:30
several of those people are indeed
2:17:33
innocent, We've been talking about this, the
2:17:35
energy company that Steven P
2:17:38
knew is representing numerous individuals
2:17:40
against is called in her
2:17:43
g. See, they just put a tea in energy and they
2:17:46
think they got people fooled. They're changing
2:17:48
their name trying to stay ahead of
2:17:50
the law. Entergy, the energy company down there is
2:17:53
a result of their
2:17:55
negligence and other breaches
2:17:57
of the public trust
2:18:00
and faith caused a system
2:18:02
failure that left southeast
2:18:05
Louisiana without power.
2:18:07
For a long time, the power outage occurred as a direct result of
2:18:13
the foreseeable failure of Entergy's distribution
2:18:15
and transmission equipment during
2:18:18
Hurricane Ida because despite
2:18:21
evidence, Evidence that has been obtained by new law office dot
2:18:23
com at 8886928084
2:18:29
Despite evidence which proved the weakness and
2:18:31
perilous condition of their equipment
2:18:33
and systems, they didn't do
2:18:35
nothing about it, Entergy. Chose profits
2:18:38
over the people that they serve. Do
2:18:41
you know that if they
2:18:43
had made the decision to
2:18:45
invest in underground transmission of
2:18:48
electricity. In an
2:18:50
environment like southeast Louisiana
2:18:52
that could have assured
2:18:55
regular consistency staying protected service to all their customers, not just the affluent neighborhoods. That's
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the way they do
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it over in Europe
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and parts of Australia, but
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instead They chose the
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to protect billions of dollars instead of
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their customers. The customers pay the money
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then Entergy took the money and gave it to all
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of their big wigs instead of upgrading their equipment,
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puffed and blew it
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all down, blew it all downtown. So
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they're gonna pay through the nose for
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this shit because of Steven Peewoo. And if you've
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got somebody that you'd like to see honking out some quarters and
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dollar bills out of their honker.
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I mean, quarters out of the right nostril and dollar bills out of the
2:19:43
left nostril. Just over and over, Well,
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then you call 88869280847.
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slot machines at at Las Vegas
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with the the quarters out the
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right nostril and dollar bills out to left, Nostril, just
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and not the old new
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law office. No. Let's get Let's get
2:20:30
a few more questions and wrap things up.
2:20:33
You're right over there.
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Yeah, I'm good. I'm just
2:20:37
blowing out another quarter.
2:20:38
Here's our next question. Sent the corny drive thru at gmail dot com
2:20:44
from Noah in greater Boston.
2:20:46
Do you know Noah? I don't know this Noah. No. I've never known
2:20:51
Noah before. I've always wondered
2:20:53
how it can possibly be somewhat accurately
2:20:56
determined
2:20:57
which wrestler drew money
2:20:59
in a sold out
2:21:02
show
2:21:02
Be it house
2:21:03
network or pay per view. So
2:21:05
many people went to see Hogan
2:21:08
and flair during their hey days,
2:21:10
of course, but not necessarily towards the end and certainly not at the very end.
2:21:13
In my case, I
2:21:15
would rather see Hankey
2:21:17
talkman Russell a match
2:21:20
in person and pay to see
2:21:22
that than the ultimate
2:21:23
warrior, for example, to
2:21:24
each his When stone cold and
2:21:25
the rock and triple h and undertaker and Foley
2:21:28
and Big we're
2:21:31
all headlining but not all
2:21:33
headlining at the same time. How could it be determined
2:21:35
and who would decide based on any objective empirical
2:21:40
evidence, how to allocate who
2:21:43
drew money and who did
2:21:45
not draw as much. Thanks.
2:21:48
Seems undercelerable to me, but
2:21:50
you know more. Hope not to get an answer soon.
2:21:55
Please write back here. Hoping to get
2:21:57
the end of the question soon. Also, I might miss the podcast that
2:21:59
you addressed this song, but I will keep listening. Okay.
2:22:04
Well, you get the question. It
2:22:06
kinda trailed off at the end,
2:22:08
but we hope you hear this
2:22:10
Noah. Well, it's not as
2:22:13
easy to determine specifically who drew money in
2:22:15
wrestling as it is. You can't
2:22:21
quantify it necessarily like you
2:22:23
can, an album of the
2:22:25
rolling stones that sold this.
2:22:27
Or ticket sales for led Zeppelin.
2:22:30
They sold this because it's one act. It's one product from
2:22:32
one you
2:22:35
know, this is is this is
2:22:37
not even like football where it's a team
2:22:39
versus another team. This is a
2:22:41
bunch of individuals
2:22:44
on the wrestling
2:22:46
event. Commonly, rule of thumb
2:22:50
going back to the early days
2:22:52
of wrestling and boxing for that matter, was it the
2:22:54
main events, the one that drew the money?
2:22:59
And that
2:23:00
was without question almost always the
2:23:02
case, a hundred percent of the time
2:23:06
through the pioneer days and
2:23:08
into the television era and
2:23:10
etcetera, you know, and and you can you can basically make the argument with
2:23:16
any heavyweight boxing championship match or
2:23:19
heavyweight wrestling title match that those
2:23:21
are the biggest stars on that
2:23:23
card. They're in the main
2:23:25
event. That's the match people pay to see. Everything else fills out the
2:23:28
show. Over the
2:23:30
years in the
2:23:33
television era with
2:23:36
the territories, then still it was pretty obvious.
2:23:38
You know, when when when when
2:23:40
the old timers from the fifties,
2:23:42
the Burghan, you and the bruisers. And even the, you the they booked a
2:23:45
card, generally, again, the
2:23:48
main event was by
2:23:51
far the strongest match Sam
2:23:54
Mutchnik especially to the day he
2:23:56
retired in Saint Louis paid the
2:23:58
main event multiple times what everybody else on the card got because
2:24:02
that was what you did.
2:24:04
But then Watts and Eddie Graham
2:24:07
and later on Jerry Jerry and
2:24:10
Dundee working with Jared and Lal and
2:24:12
Hall are just like to book a
2:24:14
bunch of matches. But they started booking package shows where even up and down the card,
2:24:19
even if you've still got the
2:24:21
guys that are your you feel are your top guys in the main event or
2:24:23
the your area's championship in
2:24:29
the main event? Your card is four or
2:24:31
five matches deep. Maybe
2:24:34
six in the Superdome were a
2:24:36
big show like that with angles
2:24:38
where guys have you're accommodating a
2:24:41
rivalry of some description with
2:24:43
the tag matches or stipulation
2:24:45
match or whatever where there's an angle and a program behind
2:24:47
everything. That was what
2:24:50
they called a package show. And
2:24:52
then it became a little harder
2:24:54
to determine not only who was drawing the money, but also how
2:24:59
gas got paid, and you've heard
2:25:01
me mention that Watts would send out memos sometimes
2:25:03
after the Superdome. I read one
2:25:06
of them, on the show here a
2:25:08
while back where he said that The
2:25:10
superdome payoffs were spread over x
2:25:13
amount of people over the
2:25:16
top three matches. This time because
2:25:18
each of the three matches could be
2:25:21
construed as a main event in
2:25:23
its own right. And then it gets
2:25:25
a little and, you know, when Uncle
2:25:28
Dave does a list, which
2:25:30
he actually just did this past week
2:25:32
and the observer does it every year,
2:25:34
where he updates the list of biggest drawing
2:25:37
cards in the history of wrestling
2:25:39
year by year and then of
2:25:42
all time, which is an estimate, a scholarly estimate, a
2:25:46
learned estimate, but still just
2:25:49
an estimate, based on criteria that they've set up,
2:25:52
whether it
2:25:54
be Steve Yohhe and the,
2:25:56
you know, the claw master
2:25:58
and all the Historians that have compiled results and and kept,
2:26:02
you know, newspaper articles from
2:26:05
the past a lab and
2:26:07
it's etcetera, that have contributed to this, they well, how many
2:26:10
how many cards of
2:26:12
over ten thousand fans
2:26:15
did this guy headline in the
2:26:17
course of a year. And where
2:26:20
was the second place, guy? That's
2:26:22
why the the the all time list is somewhat the top, you're
2:26:28
pretty good. Right? It's it's
2:26:31
not fucking argument, Jim Lawndos. And the, you know, the
2:26:33
top couple, the longsens
2:26:36
and the Fizz is.
2:26:39
You can see For the longevity
2:26:41
for decades and the huge crowds.
2:26:43
When you get down a little
2:26:45
bit, I always thought that a
2:26:47
guy like Jackie Fargo got
2:26:49
shortchanged in that formula
2:26:51
because a guy in the
2:26:54
northeast territory or a guy in
2:26:57
a place like Dallas where they did
2:26:59
have the, you know, the the big building or a
2:27:01
big city like Chicago where they had the big building or a sheik
2:27:04
in Toronto. Was
2:27:07
a huge drawing card, but he
2:27:10
especially benefited from Maple Leaf Gardens being a big building because
2:27:12
you could pinpoint
2:27:14
all those people in these big
2:27:17
shows drawing ten thousand or more people, but that
2:27:19
might be once a month. Once
2:27:23
every couple, you know, weeks,
2:27:25
whereas you had a guy for year
2:27:27
runs, years at a time like Fargo, In
2:27:31
the Tennessee territory, drawn five thousand
2:27:33
people a week in Chattanooga, five thousand people a
2:27:35
week in Birmingham, more
2:27:38
than that a week
2:27:40
in Memphis or whatever.
2:27:42
And those smaller towns, would
2:27:45
add up to if there was record of,
2:27:47
but if they were paid as much attention to,
2:27:49
you see where I'm going with this, they would add up to
2:27:51
probably comparable in some cases.
2:27:53
As the
2:27:54
bigger higher profile guys. But let me ask
2:27:56
you a question though because I think it's more
2:27:58
in tune with the spirit of the email
2:28:00
The show where the Fargo's return,
2:28:03
who did Zulu wrestle? Is that
2:28:05
Zulu versus the Stomper? The
2:28:07
Mongolian
2:28:07
Stomper. Yes. 278 argue over who
2:28:10
drew that house.
2:28:12
Exactly. There is always
2:28:14
the the points you can make that especially in the territories when
2:28:19
something else got hot or
2:28:21
some other talent got hot,
2:28:23
but you were still putting your heavyweight title or your, you know,
2:28:25
recognized top guy in the main
2:28:28
event even though the semifinal may
2:28:30
have been the one they were interested
2:28:33
and that's that case is the
2:28:35
first time in ten years that more
2:28:37
than ten years that all three of
2:28:40
the fabulous Fargo's had been in the
2:28:42
building together in the same place,
2:28:44
same time in Memphis, was on the semifinal,
2:28:46
and Zulu against the Mongolian stomper for the southern
2:28:49
title was on the main event.
2:28:52
Zulu got credit for three weeks at
2:28:54
a row of sellouts at the mid South Carolina
2:28:57
see them because the fargos
2:28:59
were underneath all that time,
2:29:02
but that's what they were coming to see.
2:29:04
So it can
2:29:06
be skewed. It's not an
2:29:08
exact measurement or an exact calculation just because
2:29:10
the gas in the main event
2:29:14
especially in some of these loaded shows,
2:29:17
the people may have been coming to
2:29:19
see the other guy. Over a period of time, It
2:29:22
kind of evens out where
2:29:25
the the promoters would usually be
2:29:27
the ones to recognize
2:29:29
so and so drew money
2:29:31
because they were the ones that
2:29:33
saw the bottom line and they were the
2:29:35
ones that saw the finances
2:29:38
on every show, and they were the
2:29:40
ones that were able to to determine. When
2:29:42
so and so is on the card for me, I do better,
2:29:46
than I do with anybody else
2:29:48
or almost anybody else as a
2:29:50
sandwich Nick said, what didn't he say his
2:29:53
his two of his three
2:29:55
biggest drawing cards were Lonsen
2:29:57
and Buddy Rogers was the
2:29:59
other one flare. I'm not sure
2:30:02
if we I'm trying to think
2:30:04
it was it was two two were vintage and
2:30:06
one was more modern, but the point is
2:30:10
that Sam Mutchnik was in in
2:30:13
promotion for almost forty years in one of
2:30:15
the major markets in the country. And
2:30:18
he could pinpoint the three
2:30:20
guys that drew more money for
2:30:22
him than anybody else over that long haul.
2:30:25
Because they had been been there
2:30:28
and done it time and time
2:30:30
again. And then you'd have guys who Andre
2:30:33
didn't draw more
2:30:36
money in each
2:30:38
individual territory than the main
2:30:42
event guys in the territories, but
2:30:45
he drew more per capita per show
2:30:47
that he was on. Because
2:30:49
since he was always traveling around,
2:30:52
you didn't get a chance to
2:30:54
seem that often, he would pop a
2:30:56
house in whatever territory
2:30:58
he was in because they
2:31:00
came to sea. But the area
2:31:02
champion that was there for, you know,
2:31:06
six months straight drew more money
2:31:08
overall just not that one big house because he
2:31:10
was programmed and regularly and on top and over whatever.
2:31:14
That's why Jerry Jerry
2:31:16
had always said that
2:31:18
per capita per event, the biggest drawing rest slurred
2:31:23
that he ever booked was rough house Fargo
2:31:25
because he'd only bring him in once every couple or three years, but fuck it
2:31:27
would sell out if he did. And
2:31:31
you would find that, you
2:31:33
know, guys that were over in a territory would oftentimes
2:31:36
out draw The
2:31:40
world heavyweight champion if they were in
2:31:42
a hot angle or something, but that didn't mean that the world champion wasn't drawing more money than them in the entire
2:31:44
country.
2:31:48
See what I'm saying. But, like, when you look at
2:31:51
something like a WrestleMania today or, I
2:31:54
guess, smoking on wrestling nine o'legends, technically,
2:31:56
the main event was the six montage match.
2:31:58
Right. Should any of those wrestlers be given
2:32:01
credit for drawing that house?
2:32:02
And the
2:32:03
same thing applies to a WrestleMania,
2:32:05
unless it's something just over the top, like, you know, Steve Austin's
2:32:07
gonna be teaming
2:32:10
with zombie buddy Rogers and people
2:32:12
care. Like, unless it's something crazy,
2:32:14
Yeah. No. It was there's the night of Legends was a concept show.
2:32:17
And there were so
2:32:19
many big names in
2:32:22
it and so many varieties of
2:32:24
things people were interested
2:32:25
in, that it would be hard to
2:32:28
give even the main event guys
2:32:29
credit, but they were
2:32:31
the most integral to the success of
2:32:34
the wrestling event, which is
2:32:36
why they were in
2:32:38
the last match. But with with
2:32:40
WrestleMania, with anything today, you can't
2:32:42
really tell because they go to
2:32:44
see. It's like, you know, which I've
2:32:47
said this before, which Globe
2:32:49
Trotter team are we getting? Are we
2:32:51
getting metal arc? Are we getting curly
2:32:53
knee? Are we getting gee saws? Be who
2:32:55
are we getting? But we're still going
2:32:57
to see the Globe Trotters. We just
2:32:59
hope that the our favorites are there.
2:33:01
They're going to see WrestleMania. They're going to see
2:33:04
the spec cool. They're
2:33:06
going to see the WWE
2:33:08
live. The people on the show with
2:33:10
few exceptions, it doesn't really matter. They're they
2:33:15
What we've talked about, if
2:33:17
they announce SINA that'll move
2:33:19
tickets, they announce Brock move tickets. Every
2:33:22
once in a while, they they'll
2:33:24
announce something else that'll move some tickets.
2:33:27
But otherwise, the people that decide when they first hear about the show were gonna go Are
2:33:32
the people that end up going? They don't
2:33:34
even advertise you watch the commercials. For
2:33:36
the WWE, when they do commercials in
2:33:38
a local market, c stars like
2:33:40
this guy, that guy and
2:33:43
the other guy. They don't ever match matches anymore. No. And
2:33:47
I mean, that used to
2:33:49
be my God. Most promoters I know if
2:33:52
Christine Jared saw
2:33:54
that the opening match was
2:33:56
gonna be changed because somebody's car broke down or
2:33:59
whatever, she would have the ring announcer jazz
2:34:03
and be contrite about it because
2:34:05
every single match on the card had been advertised not only on television but in
2:34:08
the newspaper. And
2:34:12
if we didn't give them
2:34:14
one, then that's false advertising. Now and and
2:34:18
By the same token, if he hadn't
2:34:20
given him any matches, back then, nobody would have showed
2:34:22
up. They would have said, what the fuck? 278
2:34:26
just tell us go see wrestling. We
2:34:28
can see that every fucking week. We wanna know
2:34:30
who's wrestling. That determines whether we're gonna go or not unless we're just the
2:34:35
devoted faithful ago every week.
2:34:37
And that's what it is so not
2:34:39
advertising a match then
2:34:42
nobody's coming to
2:34:44
you know, nobody's coming to see a match. And
2:34:46
they advertise very few names and then sometimes they change the
2:34:48
names. So
2:34:52
really right now, the only
2:34:54
wrestler in the
2:34:55
WWE, the only wrestlers that sell any tickets
2:34:59
that wouldn't be sold just because
2:35:01
WWE's coming to town, Arsina and Brock, and maybe to a
2:35:03
lesser extent, Roman. Is
2:35:07
there anybody else can you
2:35:09
think of anybody?
2:35:10
Right now, no. Can you think of anybody that AEW puts
2:35:15
on their shows that in
2:35:17
other words, is there anybody that serves the senior position in AEW where we've had these
2:35:20
tickets on sale.
2:35:25
They they've moved, but all they're gonna move,
2:35:27
but we're gonna add this name
2:35:29
and suddenly boom more
2:35:31
tickets. Is is anybody doing that? Think
2:35:33
it depends on the market with AW. You know, to
2:35:35
use punk as an example,
2:35:37
I think punk returning into Chicago or New
2:35:40
York is a lot different than Freslow.
2:35:42
Well, punk ain't returned anywhere anymore
2:35:44
because they ran him off. We
2:35:46
didn't wanna say I'm right. Museums
2:35:49
and exam. Now But right now, is there anybody
2:35:51
that stands out of the AEW pack? And
2:35:53
I'm not even downgrading
2:35:55
any of their talent.
2:35:58
I'm just saying, is there anybody
2:36:00
that they can that
2:36:02
they have available to them,
2:36:04
that they can add to
2:36:06
a card that's already on sale
2:36:08
and immediately bump up a
2:36:10
bunch of tickets like Sena
2:36:12
did for that last
2:36:14
smackdown or whatever. Is there a I don't think so. I mean, they probably have results that internally
2:36:16
they know, but we don't
2:36:18
know if it MJFA
2:36:21
moxley or any of these
2:36:24
guys, Jericho, if they actually individually bump up
2:36:26
any of these numbers. Well, you know, part
2:36:28
of the reason is because they don't actually
2:36:30
add these people afterwards. They you just
2:36:32
respect, you're gonna see them
2:36:34
all. And then, some of them don't show
2:36:36
up and you're like, oh, shit, so and so wouldn't there.
2:36:38
Jim, on the topic of AEW, and I probably should've used this
2:36:42
a setup for Steven Peonou.
2:36:43
A lot of listeners have sent this
2:36:46
image. I don't know if it's from a dynamite taping or froth, something else. Yeah. I'll read it to
2:36:48
you. 278
2:36:52
fan it's on the screen now.
2:36:54
Right? It's
2:36:55
on their big screen.
2:36:57
It's
2:36:57
on their big screen. AEW fan
2:37:00
code of conduct. Caution, exclamation
2:37:02
point. If you have a
2:37:04
seat on
2:37:05
the floor, you
2:37:06
are at risk of being
2:37:09
struck by persons objects, barricades,
2:37:11
and other items. Please
2:37:14
be aware of the
2:37:16
action as you are
2:37:19
watching and move out of the way if someone or something is coming your way. We
2:37:21
put the burden
2:37:24
on you. By
2:37:26
staying in this area, Hone
2:37:28
your reflexes. Rain. If you're
2:37:31
going to a live AEW
2:37:33
show train for at least six
2:37:35
weeks with a good coach
2:37:37
that in dodgeball that can teach you
2:37:39
how to get out of the way,
2:37:41
shit. Go ahead. By
2:37:42
staying in this area, you assume all risks of injury to yourself
2:37:46
and to your
2:37:48
property. And that is No.
2:37:50
You don't. No. You don't. No. You do not.
2:37:56
Is that code of Yeah. I'm talk is that
2:37:58
even a code of conduct? No. That's not a code
2:38:01
of
2:38:02
conduct. That's a disclaimer of we think
2:38:04
that this will prevent you from suing us
2:38:06
If something happens, you go to
2:38:08
an NBA finals game
2:38:11
at the United Center
2:38:13
in Chicago. See the
2:38:16
Bulls. Right? And you've got tickets
2:38:18
right down court side.
2:38:21
And right before
2:38:23
the game starts, They tell you,
2:38:25
well, now it's up. It's
2:38:27
your responsibility. Even though you're
2:38:30
sitting in a seat, in the area reserved in this arena for Where
2:38:35
you are a ticket purchasing patron
2:38:37
we have sold you We have taken your money and provided you that seat and that
2:38:40
to sit. But even
2:38:42
though we're supposed to
2:38:45
play the game on
2:38:48
the court, If the ball
2:38:50
comes your way or the players come your
2:38:52
way, it's your responsibility to get the fuck out
2:38:54
of the way or else wise, if you get
2:38:56
hurt, It's not our fault.
2:38:58
Do you think that will hold
2:39:00
up in court when the bulls run over some
2:39:03
grandmothers sitting in second row court side
2:39:06
and beat her in the head with the
2:39:09
basketball and she sees triple for the rest of her
2:39:10
life. This isn't even that specific. If someone behind you throws a bottle at your head, It's
2:39:16
the same thing. Yeah. He he
2:39:18
said at Rick's side anything could
2:39:21
happen. This is a sporting
2:39:23
arena we're and and we
2:39:25
are a licensed company that has sold you a seat to
2:39:27
sit in a specific place and watch our
2:39:31
performance, but just in case
2:39:34
our performers can't keep themselves in their allotted area or throw something at you that
2:39:36
might
2:39:40
Put your eye out or break your face.
2:39:43
It's your responsibility to get the
2:39:45
fuck out of the way. That ain't
2:39:47
standing up. That is not standing
2:39:49
up. That's just buffering and
2:39:52
bluffing a bunch of people
2:39:54
in the building, into thinking
2:39:56
well, shit. I guess we can't sue them now
2:39:58
because they put that on the screen. Bullshit.
2:40:02
I've been in enough lawsuits. And
2:40:04
not the good side
2:40:06
of them If you
2:40:09
or anything that you call
2:40:11
have in your hands or
2:40:13
are in control of, if you
2:40:16
cause that thing to go out in
2:40:18
the spectator area or you go
2:40:20
out in the spectator area, and
2:40:22
hurt somebody, it's you fault. And you
2:40:24
gonna go to well, you ain't
2:40:26
gonna go to jail. You're gonna go
2:40:28
to the poor house because they're gonna
2:40:31
fucking find against That's This performance area.
2:40:33
The Twain is
2:40:36
not supposed to
2:40:39
meet and they If the judge does
2:40:42
not fucking take oh, will we warn
2:40:44
them to get out of the way if we
2:40:46
came at him with bricks? They don't take that.
2:40:50
Alright. So
2:40:51
that's the AW
2:40:54
fan code of
2:40:56
conduct. Thought it was
2:40:58
gonna be something like and
2:41:00
don't say mean things about
2:41:03
our wrestlers. Jim,
2:41:03
our last question,
2:41:05
sent to sent
2:41:08
on Twitter. He's in
2:41:11
a hashtag twenty twenty.
2:41:13
Our last question sent via Twitter
2:41:15
using a hashtag pony drive through by several
2:41:18
listeners. They want to get your take on
2:41:20
this. An interesting
2:41:22
exchange here, Dave meltzer
2:41:23
and someone I would know. I don't
2:41:25
know how many other people know. David, the
2:41:28
piledriver, Schwartz, who
2:41:30
used to be on a Delphi University radio
2:41:32
in the nineties hit a wrestling show. I'm actually
2:41:34
now you're ahead of me here on on this fella.
2:41:38
Well, he tweeted out, I guess
2:41:40
him and Dave were talking about
2:41:42
something. In my opinion, even if Vern had Hogan become
2:41:44
champ,
2:41:46
The AWA would have still
2:41:48
eventually folded
2:41:49
because Vern's still booked like it was the nineteen
2:41:51
sixties. And Dave Meltser replied, If
2:41:55
he had Hogan, champion
2:41:58
or not, WWF's expansion fails. One hundred percent,
2:42:03
People today don't realize what
2:42:05
a difference maker he
2:42:07
was, Vern have survived with Hogan easily.
2:42:11
What do you think of
2:42:13
the idea that Hogan was that big
2:42:15
a difference maker and that All
2:42:18
things being
2:42:19
equal, nothing changes with the booking or
2:42:21
anything else, and there are no merchandise issues that Vern could
2:42:23
have survived if he had just
2:42:25
If if Vernon Hogan, Vince wouldn't have been
2:42:28
able to expand everywhere that he did expand and
2:42:30
he certainly wouldn't have doubled the BTAWA.
2:42:33
Hogan meant all kinds of Hogan
2:42:35
meant the world to the expansion. Right?
2:42:37
But it would have still gone on
2:42:39
because you can't
2:42:42
tell me especially in light of modern
2:42:44
day happenings that when Vince McMahon gets an idea for something he
2:42:46
wants to do just because the first person he wants to do it
2:42:48
with Might
2:42:51
not be available. He oh, oh,
2:42:54
well, shit. Guess I'm gonna scrap the whole thing, pal? No. He knew what he wanted to do, and then Hogan
2:42:56
was perfect,
2:43:01
but as we've mentioned, you know, there
2:43:03
could have been other people, or he
2:43:05
could have gone with savage, or he
2:43:07
could have gone with fucking
2:43:09
well, wouldn't have been savage at that point, but Dusty is one that everyone
2:43:11
points. Well, you know, and
2:43:13
and and Vince said that he would have gone with
2:43:15
Dusty if he hadn't got Hoga. But he wouldn't whoever
2:43:18
had come along even if it was a year or two later is what I'm saying. Savage wasn't there
2:43:20
right then, but he came
2:43:22
along the next year. He
2:43:24
was wanting to do
2:43:26
that and he would have found someone to
2:43:28
enable him to do it.
2:43:30
It would have taken longer.
2:43:33
It might not have
2:43:35
been his massively success
2:43:36
full. But it but
2:43:38
no. That doesn't mean that that
2:43:40
Vern especially because yeah. Vern
2:43:42
was red hot in the first
2:43:45
half of the eighties, but that wasn't
2:43:47
just due to Hogan. That was due to
2:43:49
a lot of that talent just having all the
2:43:51
TV and and riding
2:43:54
rough shot over everything. Once
2:43:57
there was competition and once that his
2:43:59
talent was getting hired away because that If
2:44:03
Vince didn't get Ho Kogan that
2:44:05
didn't make Vern a better payoff
2:44:07
man, so Vince was gonna get some Audi.
2:44:10
And by the way, eighty four for the
2:44:12
AWA still stayed pretty hot with the road
2:44:14
warriors. Yeah. Because he had the road warriors there, but
2:44:17
that he couldn't keep them
2:44:19
because Crockett could pay him
2:44:21
more. So the point is
2:44:23
it wasn't like that Verne was
2:44:25
still gonna be in business. The
2:44:27
last man standing all this time later,
2:44:29
if Hogan hadn't left, it would it
2:44:31
would have happened The
2:44:34
same way, just possibly not
2:44:36
as successfully for Vince
2:44:38
and possibly not as quickly,
2:44:40
And and there's a there's a
2:44:42
chance that maybe Crockett could have outlasted
2:44:45
him or got the the lead, but
2:44:47
I don't think anybody's ever floated
2:44:50
the idea that Vern would have been
2:44:52
the one to last or win the
2:44:54
whole thing or make it or whatever Greg
2:44:56
has. Well, besides gray.
2:44:58
What do you think of Dave's
2:45:00
point? It's interesting too, that people today,
2:45:02
especially a younger fan, wouldn't really under
2:45:05
and how special Hogan was, his
2:45:07
place in popular
2:45:08
culture, in eighty
2:45:09
three going into eighty four 278 of
2:45:12
course, Everything explodes in eighty
2:45:14
four and eighty five. Well, yeah.
2:45:16
Well, I well, that's duh.
2:45:18
Because the the fans who weren't around
2:45:21
them to experience that
2:45:23
have no frame
2:45:26
of
2:45:26
reference. They think today's wrestling and
2:45:29
and wrestlers are popular. Because they see
2:45:31
it on TV and because they know
2:45:33
a bunch of other people that like
2:45:35
these wrestlers, they don't understand and
2:45:37
they think that when I say it
2:45:39
or when anybody else say that, I guess,
2:45:41
better or their old timers or whatever. But,
2:45:44
no, the The
2:45:46
wrestlers of today, good,
2:45:48
better, indifferent, ones we like,
2:45:50
and ones we don't like, are
2:45:54
still nowhere near as well
2:45:56
known as popular or as
2:45:58
over as wrestlers of thirty and forty years ago, and so you can't
2:46:04
understand exactly how, you know, over
2:46:06
a guy like Hogan was when
2:46:08
he was the most over of
2:46:10
the bunch of them. But it
2:46:12
it it and
2:46:14
and, you know, Hogan got the big recognition nationally with Vince's expansion But
2:46:21
before that, there were still multiple pro
2:46:24
wrestlers that
2:46:26
if you asked in major
2:46:28
American markets, You know who's your
2:46:31
favorite pro athlete? Wrestlers
2:46:33
would get mentioned. Dusty'd get
2:46:36
mentioned in Florida or Georgia. Bruno get mentioned
2:46:38
in New York. Lalor get mentioned in Memphis.
2:46:41
JYD in New Orleans,
2:46:43
JYD in Louisiana, Danny
2:46:45
Hodge in Oklahoma fucking blasts in
2:46:48
California at one
2:46:50
point or Stevens in Northern
2:46:52
California. They were they were always in the conversation.
2:46:54
Now that's not the case. So nobody
2:46:59
in wrestling today is as
2:47:01
over or as notorious as
2:47:03
they say as Hogan was
2:47:05
then or as a variety
2:47:07
of the top guys were
2:47:09
then. The audience is smaller. The TV
2:47:11
is smaller. Nobody's
2:47:14
on local broadcast television,
2:47:16
so you don't have
2:47:18
You know, you you used to have 278
2:47:22
a variety of markets in
2:47:25
the US and Canada The
2:47:27
local wrestler would be one of the most well known professional sports figures
2:47:29
in that town because of
2:47:31
their longevity and because they
2:47:33
were from there and had
2:47:35
been on low television in
2:47:38
that town for years. Now
2:47:40
there's no local TV.
2:47:42
So nobody's a fucking local
2:47:44
Celebrity in any town of any
2:47:47
size, maybe the last ones were
2:47:49
hard the hearts in
2:47:51
Calgary. But so, yeah, so it is easy for people now
2:47:54
not to understand
2:47:58
how much more popular overall,
2:48:00
more known, more recognized
2:48:03
that the top wrestlers
2:48:05
were then than they
2:48:08
are now. Because they weren't around them,
2:48:10
they didn't experience it. So they can't
2:48:12
figure it
2:48:12
out. I hope everyone figured out everything you were gonna figure out
2:48:14
this week because the drive through is closed.
2:48:18
So close than fact, we'll return with a
2:48:20
song next week. Hold on. Refine this all the way across my
2:48:22
deck. Wait a minute. I got a
2:48:23
song for you. Oh,
2:48:26
no. Hold on one second. I'll
2:48:28
get you a song. Yay. Is it glass onion?
2:48:31
Was the song glass onion? Is it a glass onion.
2:48:35
The dirty song that you had from
2:48:37
the Beatles? No. I thought that was that that Here comes
2:48:40
the song. Is
2:48:42
it here comes the sun?
2:48:45
Well, that would rhyme with that
2:48:47
other word. But anyway, And
2:48:50
you just you you 278 you
2:48:52
you just said and he left the the drive through was
2:48:54
over with, so let's get out of here.
2:48:58
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