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Episode 278

Released Thursday, 26th January 2023
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0:00

Who still remembers Pam Perro

0:02

for both who booked this crew

0:05

job in Montréal, who

0:08

has a good for a name weasel,

0:10

dooley. Everyone knows

0:12

this morning. Who

0:15

managed, Bobby? Nen

0:17

Condrey, who managed and

0:19

laid out doctor Tom, who

0:22

sick and tired of Kenny, olivy,

0:25

every One nose is

0:27

corny. Who

0:31

took a shoot all off for the

0:33

scaffolding. Who bled a gush

0:36

arena white suit. Who

0:38

said Ronnie and Carmen went up like

0:41

the challenger. Everyone knows

0:43

it's Cornettes

0:48

Cornettes through

0:51

he'll answer questions from

0:54

you and he won

0:56

the pony 278.

0:58

Thank you for you. Bye. Thank

1:01

you for you. Bye. The Thank you.

1:03

Fuck

1:03

you. Bye. Thank you. Fuck you.

1:07

Hello again friends, and

1:09

you are our friends. And welcome back to

1:11

another edition of Jim Cornette DriveThru

1:14

right here on another beautiful day.

1:16

Somewhere for some of you

1:18

But we're gonna have a beautiful show here today.

1:20

It's been guaranteed. I'm your

1:22

host Great Brian Last. And here's

1:24

the man guaranteeing a great show,

1:26

Mister Jim Cornett. Wait a

1:28

minute. How how did I get involved in your

1:30

money back guarantee scheme here?

1:34

How have I been implicated now? My

1:37

my career, my credibility, my

1:39

name, my reputation is

1:42

on that my integrity. Is

1:45

now on the line here because you

1:47

have vouch to the people 278

1:50

people for the fact that this is gonna

1:52

be a good show before we've even done it.

1:54

And you know I'm already at a handicap because

1:57

this is your show, so I can only

1:59

do so much. I

2:01

don't know if I wanna be just brought just

2:03

grouped into this goddamn warranty

2:07

that you've spread out here, that you've

2:09

perpetrated across the globe

2:11

like a blanket. Just everybody's gonna

2:13

love this show. Right, Jim? I

2:15

don't know what kind of mood are you in

2:17

today. Do we have anything entertaining

2:20

to talk about? Raw certainly didn't

2:22

help a lot. I

2:24

know a lot of people got the warm fuzz

2:26

feelings about seeing the

2:28

nostalgic superstars

2:31

of days gone by, but the

2:33

application of same left

2:36

something to be desired. We'll talk about that.

2:38

But anyway, I don't wanna be drugging on

2:40

this with you. It's what I'm trying to communicate to

2:42

you. This is entirely up. This

2:44

is your show, and it's entirely

2:46

up to you. You have not you have

2:49

not given me any reason to believe

2:51

that I should go ahead and jump in on that guarantee

2:53

that this is gonna be a great show. So

2:56

you do not guarantee it'll be a great show. I

2:58

don't guarantee it. We we hope for the

3:00

best. You we're gonna we're

3:02

gonna try. Do you guarantee you

3:04

will try your best? Well,

3:06

I don't know now. I see you. You can't even

3:08

guarantee effort. Look at that. Don't

3:10

let you gain guarantee effort.

3:12

The less a man makes declarative statements

3:15

the less likely he is to be proven

3:17

a fool in retrospect. Let's

3:20

just feel this out and see how it goes.

3:22

What I'm saying to you? What's your Social

3:25

Security number? Well,

3:27

it's four hundred dash. That's your

3:29

fucking face. That's what it is.

3:32

Alrighty. I'll tell you one

3:34

thing that here's something now that doesn't

3:36

happen up in New York, happened down here.

3:39

This is not this not a funny

3:40

story, but it's a goddamn unusual story.

3:42

It's a freak accident is what it is.

3:44

They don't have these

3:47

up there in New York City where you're from

3:49

in Manhattan and the big apple with

3:51

the worm in it and everything, but most places

3:53

in the country and you've traveled around the Cornette.

3:56

When you're driving down the interstate especially

3:58

when you're not in a big downtown area, when you're

4:00

just out in the suburbs. You're

4:03

driving down the interstate and every

4:05

exit they have the giant signs. For

4:08

the gas stations and the restaurants. They're

4:10

seventy five feet high. They're up on those

4:12

giant poles. They alert

4:14

you to the fact a mile and a half two

4:16

miles away. Get off here 278

4:19

get your gas. If it's

4:21

Taco Bell or get off here to fuel

4:23

up if it's an Exxon station or whatever

4:25

it may

4:25

be. You've seen these

4:27

signs I'm talking about. Of

4:29

course, south of the border, if you're driving

4:31

down to Florida, and you famously you'll see

4:33

those all over the place, fireworks, in the Carolinas?

4:36

Yes. Yes. But I mean, the the

4:38

big the big giant, you see

4:40

signs of every description, but I'm talking

4:42

the big ones that are like eighty feet

4:44

high with the big poles for the gas

4:46

stations and the and the restaurants and

4:48

things of that nature. These giant ones yeah, of

4:50

course. They got it. They got it. It's not just mom

4:52

and pops fireworks. Well,

4:56

it was on the news here day before

4:58

yesterday. Because, of course,

5:00

now it's freezing again. We're about to have a

5:02

few inches of snow, but a

5:04

few days ago, it was almost seventy

5:06

degrees. We ran severe thunderstorms, and

5:08

the wind gust got up to sixty

5:10

miles an hour. Down in

5:12

Elizabethtown. Down in our friends, down

5:14

in E Town. And there's

5:16

a Denny's restaurant down there. It may

5:18

not be for too long. The

5:20

whole Denny's chain may be going out of business

5:22

here pretty safe. Closed a bunch of the

5:24

70s in this town anyway. We're

5:27

we're known for our our culinary

5:30

criteria. So denny's is been run

5:32

out, but there was still there's still one down

5:34

in e town. Get it while you can. So

5:38

apparently, this

5:41

woman and her well, a

5:43

woman and her husband and

5:45

I think it was their daughter But

5:47

these these are, like, grandparents. There's, like,

5:49

seventy seven year old woman and her husband and

5:51

their daughter who's probably

5:53

of almost my age or

5:56

just driving through the

5:58

parking lot, and to Denny's

6:00

off the interstate down in E Town,

6:03

And hopefully, they at

6:05

least got their fucking

6:07

lunch first instead of coming in for

6:09

it because The

6:11

high winds took the did

6:13

the giant Denny's sign. They said

6:15

it weighed twenty six hundred

6:17

pounds. And

6:19

blew it off the top of that thing.

6:21

Oh my god. Those big poles and it

6:24

landed on their car. And

6:27

kill this this woman, her

6:30

granddaughter's been on the news talking

6:32

about it because kill this woman Her

6:35

husband, the old man, was

6:37

a cancer patient that had just

6:39

apparently because I guess

6:41

they were on their way back home to Columbia

6:44

or some is about a hundred miles from here, what are probably

6:46

in the big city up at the hospital

6:48

and they've just let him out to

6:50

go home apparently where he went home and

6:52

was in hospice care, but they it

6:54

it injured him and he'd died

6:57

like thirty six hours later. And

7:00

the daughter well, they were trapped in this

7:02

thing for forty five minutes before

7:04

the the authorities

7:07

could get them out of this thing. So,

7:10

anyway, that's that's the news around here.

7:13

Don't

7:14

do not not only park leave your

7:16

house. Don't have time under

7:18

any sign of any description in

7:20

a high win.

7:23

Because, Ned, I gotta say, we'll

7:26

we'll talk about him later in the program, but

7:28

Steven Peanuts. Steven

7:29

Peanuts. Steven Peanuts.

7:31

If you folks down there

7:33

are within the sound of my voice, But

7:35

you can you believe that? It denny's

7:38

parking lot and they're fucking forward

7:40

and bam. The

7:43

the the the sign wade as much

7:45

as a midsize car and

7:47

came from, like, seventy five feet in

7:49

the air. So

7:52

don't leave your house. Yeah. That's

7:54

another house. Don't leave the house.

7:57

Can this be your show this week? I don't know how to

7:59

follow that up. Well, I'll tell you what, you

8:01

know, it's a good, I'll just get it out of the way

8:03

then. Everybody in the world

8:05

is talking about what's coming up this

8:07

Saturday, January twenty eight at

8:09

noon eastern time around the

8:11

free world. It's, of course, The

8:14

annual Saint Valentine's Day

8:16

Massocamio celebration where

8:18

I, me, myself,

8:21

Jim Cornett, do video messages

8:23

personalized to members of

8:25

the cult to coordinate out there through the fine

8:27

folks at Cameo, and

8:29

you can go to Cameo, CAME0,

8:32

dot com slash jim you'll

8:34

see my profile

8:36

there that indicates that we will be doing this

8:38

this Saturday, or you can just go to jim

8:40

cornet dot com and

8:42

click on the cameo

8:45

button on the home page and it

8:47

will take you directly to the

8:49

foresaid place where you can

8:51

find out all about this, and more

8:53

importantly, nap on to

8:55

one of them when the time comes at noon on

8:57

Saturday because we're limiting to

8:59

about eighty And then did I

9:01

say that

9:01

eighty, lady. Hey.

9:03

Like Jerry Lewis now or Bill We're

9:06

limiting it to about eighty

9:07

Message is because that's the

9:10

amount of time that we have that week to

9:12

shoot and fulfill these, but whatever

9:14

file will give your sweetie a kiss and or a

9:16

cousin for Valentine's Day. I've said

9:18

that before, but even if

9:20

it's for you, if nobody else loves

9:22

you for Valentine's Day, I'll love

9:24

you for a fee. And

9:26

I think we've established what that means,

9:28

but no, I and and hey, maybe

9:30

it's not all maybe the because a lot of

9:32

the ladies out there they

9:34

at this time a year, they they take

9:37

advantage of these cameos and give them to

9:39

their their boyfriends or

9:41

significant others or whatever the

9:43

case that are fans of

9:46

mine. Hours even

9:48

Brian, some of them even like you. They you know,

9:50

their standards are lower. And

9:52

but in I've got to think also

9:54

that there's some guy out there,

9:56

his his lady just has a crush

9:58

on me. He's just head over heels

10:00

infatuated with me.

10:03

So, you know, it could be that way too.

10:05

And I but I can I can

10:07

say whatever is is legal? And as I

10:09

mentioned, I can make some veiled threats if

10:11

we can figure out a way to get it past the

10:13

authorities. But maybe idea I could even

10:15

sing some romantic

10:17

or seductive songs to

10:20

the intended Valentine

10:23

this year. What have you sing the

10:25

threats? I could sing

10:27

the threats. I'm

10:29

gonna come and kill you now. It

10:31

it would sound a little more palatable

10:33

if I put it to a jaunty tune about how

10:35

I was gonna rip their spleens out.

10:37

Or I could I could just pitch

10:40

a little woo. You know, I gave him

10:42

for for the ladies. So, you know, a

10:44

little jauntea Close your

10:46

eyes, spread your legs, and I'll

10:48

fertilize your legs, and I'll

10:50

send all my sperm into

10:51

you. Something like

10:54

that. I'm a Beatles fan. I've never heard that

10:56

version. Oh, I would be three. I've never

10:58

heard that version. I'll pretend

11:00

that I'm kissing the tits I've

11:02

been missing and penetrate you

11:05

in my arms and in

11:07

while you're away, I'll check

11:09

off every day, and I'll save

11:11

all my sperm for you.

11:14

All my sperm I will

11:16

give to

11:16

you. See, I can be romantic.

11:19

That can be a romantic You

11:22

only do the early material here to do

11:24

any stuff after sergeant Pepper? No.

11:26

Well, that there's also there's There's

11:28

a variety thing. I don't think I can say that

11:31

one. It's it's it involves one of the

11:33

words we can't say even on the YouTube.

11:36

But it's a later

11:36

hit. We'll talk about that off the air, but now

11:39

I'm in my head. I'm trying to figure out

11:41

what's up.

11:44

Alright. Nevertheless, that's so that's this

11:46

Saturday, the twenty eighth at jim Cornettes

11:48

By the way, of course, collectibles is

11:50

open for the lazy booking

11:52

t shirts Courtney had face t shirts.

11:54

The behind the curtain graphic novel, the

11:56

final remaining pink

11:58

and red raw debut variant action

12:01

figures, how they were at fifty or

12:03

sixty or thereabouts. So we're almost ready to

12:05

close that one down folks. And

12:07

so much more It's always

12:09

there awaiting you. The feather bottoms

12:11

ultra careful handling system. What more can

12:13

I say? Back to you,

12:15

Brian. Back

12:16

to me, Swamy's barking at the FedEx

12:18

man who's outside right

12:20

now. So I apologize for any of

12:22

that noise you hear in the background. I

12:25

find that that Harley is more

12:27

vehement with her

12:29

barking when when a

12:31

when a UPS FedEx, mailman, whoever

12:33

is coming up and actually bringing something

12:35

in their hand with them. Because

12:37

she she sits in front of the front

12:39

door. All almost all day

12:42

long and stares out and keeps an eye on

12:44

the road. If somebody cars

12:46

driving up and down the

12:47

road, she won't bark. But if somebody

12:49

pulls into the driveway, she'll

12:51

bark. If somebody on

12:53

foot even walks past

12:55

the Down the road

12:57

past the property, she will bark.

12:59

But if somebody brings something in

13:01

their hand, she'll go back.

13:03

He will bark at any car that pulls to the front of

13:05

this house that isn't one of ours, which is the amazing

13:07

part of it. So I'm like, does he recognize Well,

13:09

he recognizes well, yeah. What is he

13:12

car fanatic or whatever? But if

13:14

I pull up to the front of the house, to come in

13:16

the house, he won't bark. If

13:18

the mailman, the FedEx man, the UPS man,

13:20

the morons from Laser Ship, whoever it may

13:22

be. If they come to the House, they'll go nuts.

13:26

Well, maybe there's something to that

13:28

then. Was it Rocky raccoon? I'm dying to know which song

13:30

was the filthy song. I'm gonna keep dancing.

13:32

Yeah. It was a Rocky raccoon. No,

13:35

it was. Okay. Alright. Well,

13:37

We have a lot of things to talk about and we should

13:39

let it

13:39

be, was it let it

13:40

be? We should let it

13:43

be here on the show and

13:45

talk about The latest

13:47

wrestling story, the latest wrestling news.

13:49

That's actually another Harley piece on

13:51

letter p. Letter p.

13:53

Letter p e, letter p.

13:56

Her letter is a full

13:58

one letter p e,

14:01

letter p. Give any other

14:03

Beatles songs that are clean

14:05

that you can do on your hair. You should

14:07

Say you're the one that would

14:10

that guarantee out

14:11

pal, and here we are. We're not even into it

14:13

yet. You do that

14:14

right now. I I feel like I'm on me. I'm Mary

14:16

the k. I don't know what to do right now.

14:18

But it's better than being on the

14:20

air with Stan the big k Kawowski. That's

14:24

right. Well, I guess I never thought of him as

14:26

a DJ. Stan Lane is more of

14:28

a DJ, and Raw can use a

14:30

DJ because the commentators suck.

14:32

But let's talk about Monday

14:34

night Raw, Raw thirty, or as

14:37

some may unfortunately have put into their

14:39

search browser raw XXX

14:41

and who knows what comes up at that point?

14:43

For RAW thirty, Jim. Oh, my god.

14:45

That's right. You know, that could be

14:48

misconscrewed. RAW

14:50

x x. That was the name of the video. I saw

14:53

RAW x exact's miscrews. Congrewed.

14:59

Well, our Pilgrim. I'll say one thing

15:01

about it. Like you said the commentators

15:03

I don't think James Earl Jones could have narrated

15:05

this son of a bitch. And when I say

15:07

the commentator suck, let me be a little

15:09

more clear about it. I really The

15:11

same thing about it. Yeah. I'll be specific. Corey

15:14

Graves isn't the problem.

15:16

And I've not been the biggest fan of his in the

15:18

past, and he goes way too heavy into

15:20

the corporate speak, especially when Vince was

15:22

more active in the past? He's

15:25

not the problem. And he talks in a

15:27

voice like this, he's not the problem.

15:29

The other guy who sounds

15:31

like he's worried and he's out of breath

15:33

and he's so afraid he's gonna be sent

15:35

home. That's the problem. They

15:37

don't gel well together because of that he

15:39

does. Yes. That kid looks

15:41

like the new kid in

15:43

school that's being bullied and is afraid

15:45

to speak up out loud. He's

15:48

not confident yet. And

15:50

and the voice also, it does it. And, you

15:52

know, and and our friends across the pond

15:54

know that I love the accents.

15:57

But he doesn't sound

15:59

like, you know,

16:01

Lawrence Olivier, he's he

16:03

sounds more like, you know, fucking

16:06

Oh, goddamn. I could have done a great

16:08

civil deal on the young ones. No. So

16:10

if I could remember that it the

16:13

goddamn kid's name that played

16:16

Oliver, in Oliver, in the musical,

16:18

nineteen sixty. Oh, Jack Wilde

16:20

was not Oliver. He was

16:22

He was

16:23

faithful dodger. The artful dodger.

16:26

That's right. Well, nevertheless,

16:28

whatever that little fucking puny kid's

16:30

name was after I've already blown it. Alright.

16:33

And only six people would have got the

16:35

fucking reference anyway, but there you go.

16:38

So they started it off

16:40

and we

16:42

said that whatever Hoe

16:44

Hogan does, he's not gonna get any on him. Right?

16:46

He's not gonna be humiliated. He's

16:48

not gonna be shown in

16:50

any disrespectful or bad

16:52

light or asked or

16:54

expected to do anything that he can't

16:56

do. But goddamn

16:58

it. If they if they didn't give him a

17:00

bad microphone, he

17:03

he started the whole thing before even the, you

17:05

know, the open comes real

17:08

American, and here comes Ho, Hogan, and Jimmy

17:10

Hart. And bless Jimmy

17:12

Hart's little pee pick and

17:14

heart. He will be eighty

17:16

this year or next, I've lost track.

17:18

And did you he was doing the cheerleading

17:20

and hopping around. I hope I

17:23

make it. I hope I'm not

17:25

a fucking head in a jar like

17:27

on futurama by the time I'm eighty and

17:29

look at Jimmy. He moves better than

17:31

Hogan does. But anyway,

17:34

Hogan did the promo from the

17:36

entranceway. And

17:38

besides his the

17:40

mic would cut out and cut out a

17:42

couple of times, just missed a couple of

17:44

words, and then they ranny manure

17:46

when and sent him a gun. He didn't

17:49

say fuck on live TV

17:51

over that. It's almost

17:53

like he knew better than to

17:55

do that. But he gave the raw

17:57

raw raw thirty speech and did you

17:59

know, what's she gonna do? And

18:02

they played the music, and some

18:05

more. And that was

18:07

it. And It

18:10

wasn't bad because you got to see 278

18:13

Hogan and Jimmy Hart, but

18:16

it didn't set high

18:18

expectations for you

18:20

know, see, that's part of

18:22

the thing is when they advertise these

18:25

names especially so

18:28

many of them, and we mentioned this on

18:30

last week's experience.

18:33

Is there ain't enough time for all of

18:35

them to do anything pithy.

18:37

And but at the

18:39

same time, people in their minds, they

18:41

expect they're going, 000, COVID. Oh, shit.

18:43

And he comes out. He talks for sixty seconds

18:45

and thanks everybody for coming and you

18:47

never see him again. Is that a

18:49

let down whether it's live or

18:51

the live audience or the

18:54

Viewing audience on TV or are they

18:56

just happy, well, he's there.

18:58

What do you

18:59

think? I don't know. It

19:02

goes with Hogan, but it goes with the whole general conversation about

19:04

the proper way to use legends.

19:06

In wrestling, his wrestling uses them the way

19:08

no one

19:08

else, and sports uses

19:11

them, but

19:11

I mean, there

19:12

aren't too many great examples of legends returning

19:14

to TV shows, but usually if someone returns

19:16

to a TV show, it's

19:17

not to just

19:18

be beaten down or Or

19:21

shown to look

19:21

bad. With Hogan specifically,

19:24

there was something incredibly humorous

19:26

about him talking without the mic picking anything up

19:28

and not realizing it. Jimmy Hart's out

19:31

there. I got cheerleader. No. In in in

19:33

all honesty, no, I've been there

19:35

because I've been in a in a bunch of

19:37

low budget fucking television

19:39

production

19:39

situations. You can't tell

19:42

because unless when

19:44

you're in a big building like that,

19:47

Even a good PA system, it takes

19:49

you a second because you're

19:51

hearing yourself obviously and people aren't

19:53

making noise and you are assuming

19:57

that you're going out because you've you've heard

19:59

yourself go out so as you're talking,

20:02

it's easy to go a few words without

20:04

realizing that

20:05

they're not hearing you.

20:07

But beyond that, you know, was Holcogen doing an

20:09

intro? He says he was there from the very beginning. I mean, he

20:11

was there for a few months after

20:13

the show kicked off, and that was when people started hearing me. He

20:15

was gone for almost ten years, and

20:17

then he just disappeared after

20:20

the photographer's flash. So

20:22

I really don't know what to say about that. When it comes to the

20:25

use of legends,

20:28

do you think I

20:30

mean, we've seen different things. Like, when

20:33

Slandbury first started,

20:35

they would do something cool. They would introduce

20:37

everyone. Everyone would come out on the stage by

20:39

one and They introduce all the legends and then

20:41

you get a few legends matches and a few interviews

20:43

of legends and dispersed throughout

20:46

the show. I remember they did an all

20:48

star game I think was ninety nine

20:50

where before the game they had the greatest living

20:52

baseball players alive on

20:54

the field. Introduced and was an

20:56

incredible spectacle. Do

20:57

you think, if you bring a hug, hug, hug,

20:59

and back, if you bring a DX back, if

21:02

you bring Anyone, Rick flare?

21:03

They have to be incorporated in

21:06

what's happening on the show? Or

21:08

do you think People would

21:11

support and watch a

21:13

wrestling legend show

21:15

one week, not a pay per view, but one week

21:17

in the spot of a raw or something.

21:20

Where you have fifty

21:22

legends, but they're introduced, they're given time,

21:24

they're given videos to show their career.

21:26

Do you think There's a way other

21:28

than the way they're using legends, use legends, and you

21:30

think there's a respectable way

21:32

where instead of Hong Kong coming out there like

21:34

that, Hong Kong wears a suit. And he's

21:36

introduced and people clap any waves. Other

21:38

than, like, the hall of fame, is there a way

21:40

to maybe make it so it's not

21:41

this? I mean, because it's always this.

21:43

You know, someone said the other day, the FTR

21:46

thing where they got beaten down by DX,

21:48

that was Route twenty five. That means

21:50

the legends thing we saw in between where

21:52

the big show and Mark Henry got sent

21:54

off. That was just a random legend show, but it's

21:57

always the same legends doing the same things and

21:59

the same kind of skits. And I don't think

22:01

it works. All of

22:04

the above. You

22:07

know, Hogan's such a big

22:09

personality that And

22:12

also, to be honest, he's

22:14

he can only do him.

22:19

Right? He can't when

22:22

he's hogging on he's the disingenuous,

22:26

you know, and that's the right brother type of

22:28

thing. He can't

22:30

he never evolved in his promo to

22:32

the next generation where

22:34

got out of the, say your prayers and take your

22:37

vitamins and blah blah blah and

22:39

can actually have

22:42

a goddamn 278 to toe

22:44

argument back and forth was

22:46

somebody like a fucking Owens

22:48

that's quick and could shred him if he was

22:50

allowed to. Right? So

22:52

Hogan's a big personality and

22:54

you gotta kinda do the Hogan

22:57

stuff. But with

22:59

some, again, some

23:01

legends, should

23:03

be there. Why can't you with with Hogan,

23:05

if you don't wanna interact him with

23:07

any of the current guys, they do such

23:10

great packages. Do a

23:12

package on

23:14

this thirty, you know, thirty because they own all the footage now.

23:17

WCW thirty years of hoe

23:19

kogan's transformation from the

23:21

first raw show he was onward because he was

23:23

only there for a couple months that they're

23:25

blah blah blah or whatever

23:27

and can show it on the

23:29

screen and the viewers can

23:31

see it and then let him come out do the

23:33

full blown thing in the ring or maybe his

23:35

hip was bad, he couldn't get in the

23:37

ring. That seemed to be possibly a

23:39

recurring theme. And, you know, in

23:41

letting him be himself, that's not necessarily

23:43

that bad. But

23:46

with some of the other legends, instead

23:49

of my rotunda.

23:52

Being IRS and

23:54

coming in and confiscating the poker

23:56

game money for

23:59

and everybody knows it's bullshit anyway. And

24:01

and yet, and IRS was

24:03

his WWF gimmick,

24:06

but Why not

24:08

do an IRS package for

24:10

sixty seconds? And

24:13

then show him sitting at ringside

24:15

as Mike Rottonda

24:17

there because now he's

24:19

the goddamn, what is he

24:21

to bray wired? I've forgotten their family is

24:23

the father. Brie. He's Brie Wyatt's father.

24:28

So, honey, People

24:31

know that because they're playing

24:33

out of the Internet crowd and

24:35

let LA Night come down there

24:37

and jerk Bray Wyatt's father over the

24:39

fucking rail and smagging around or

24:42

something to instead

24:44

of that what got which we'll

24:46

talk about later. Or

24:48

with there was

24:50

Medusa there playing poker.

24:53

You know, why couldn't she interact with

24:55

one of the modern

24:57

heal women even if

25:00

it's verbally to

25:02

try to enhance

25:05

something that they're doing instead of she's a

25:07

former women's champion and

25:09

groundbreaking trail blazer and and her

25:11

part was to play poker in

25:13

the back in pre

25:13

tapes. See, that's that's

25:16

the thing instead of using a Medusa or a

25:18

Linger blaze in this case. As

25:20

a background player. If they had put together a

25:22

two minute video, explaining everything

25:24

you just said, showing clips from

25:27

WWE,

25:28

they probably wouldn't license anything from Japan

25:30

for this. And then

25:33

introducing her to the crowd without

25:35

it being a joke Don't you think people would

25:37

stand up in a plaza? Oh, yeah. And then and then

25:39

she could also say to one of

25:41

these whiny modern girls,

25:43

the heels, to

25:45

put her at her place, oh, you

25:47

think you've got it so hard and

25:49

blah blah blah. They have a performance

25:51

center and you have You're being flown

25:53

everywhere and you're on

25:55

national television when and there's all

25:57

kinds of women and you have all kinds

25:59

of opportunities. 278 know,

26:01

when back in my day, when I

26:03

was the women's champion in the AWA, the

26:06

women's roster was two of

26:08

us. And we had to ride in a fucking van

26:10

with goddamn mad dog, Basham, pissing

26:12

in a jar or whatever. Right?

26:15

And just something

26:18

like that. As we'll go through, maybe we'll come

26:20

up with some ideas as we go through and mention

26:22

some of these names. But

26:24

nevertheless,

26:24

Hey, Jim. Before we move on, I actually wanna stop you

26:27

with some breaking news, and it's about something we

26:29

were gonna talk about later in a show, but this is

26:31

such a Interesting development that I wanna

26:33

stop the show now and talk to you about it.

26:35

Okay? A tweet has gone

26:37

out from Tony Little

26:39

less than twenty minutes ago as we are

26:42

recording. Tomorrow, January

26:44

twenty fifth, Lexington,

26:46

Kentucky, Live on TBS.

26:48

Eight PM eastern, seven

26:51

PM central, Wednesday

26:53

night, AEW dynamite, Mark

26:57

Briscoe versus Jay lethal. Whoa.

27:00

Requested by both men to

27:02

celebrate the life and legacy of

27:04

the late great Jay Briscoe on his thirty ninth

27:06

birthday, his longtime friend and

27:08

rival Jay lethal versus

27:10

his brother, Mark Briscoe, and

27:12

Dave Melcher is reporting. AEW has

27:15

confirmed Warner Bros. Discovery changed its

27:17

policy on Mark

27:19

Briscoe. He's allowed to appear

27:21

going forward I said we were gonna talk about

27:23

this later. Word was going

27:25

around as of this morning. That

27:27

Mark Briscoe was not allowed on

27:29

dynamite and it has been reversed. And

27:32

about

27:32

god damn time.

27:34

And do

27:38

you think that

27:39

because that could have been the final straw

27:41

when because that's what Uncle

27:44

Dave had reported and several

27:46

other Fairly prominent sites, not

27:48

just, you know, gossip sites,

27:50

had reported that still

27:54

Mark Briscoe wasn't gonna be

27:56

allowed to be on the programming who had

27:58

he had said and done absolutely nothing.

28:02

And I saw a bunch of tweets when I got up

28:04

this morning from people tagging the

28:06

various Warner Brother

28:09

TBS accounts and And by

28:11

the way, we mentioned on the experience,

28:14

I had well, I've now had

28:16

dozens and dozens of people either tweet

28:18

or email a name

28:20

of a saying, that's the no good son

28:22

of a bitch. And, of course, it's

28:24

all different names because they have

28:27

everybody's in charge of some kind of

28:29

something over there at that company. But

28:31

do you think they finally

28:33

got tired of Fielding all

28:35

these angry tweets from wrestling

28:37

fans and then I assume emails

28:39

and whoever has done whatever

28:41

else they've done Well, Dave is now reporting.

28:43

It just went out. AEW is also

28:46

cleared to honor Jay on the show

28:48

tomorrow night. Boom. There

28:50

you go.

28:50

So the people

28:53

in this case have spoken.

28:55

I bet you that

28:58

they saw the level of animosity

29:00

that they were getting in somebody

29:03

somewhere reversed a decision because they

29:05

probably didn't wanna be didn't want it to go on any

29:07

longer because they'd narrow it down at at

29:09

some point to exactly who

29:11

this was and what their name

29:12

was. Maybe they also saw the level

29:15

of love. That everyone was

29:17

showing the family and on

29:19

the way to raise money for the

29:21

family and the local community. I mean, it became a

29:23

big story and Yeah. Everyone. I

29:25

mean, it's been universal love from

29:27

everyone. And and maybe

29:29

at that point they were ashamed of

29:31

themselves as they should be. Well,

29:34

that's good. And and because I even saw people

29:37

tweeting, demanding, or challenging

29:40

them the Warner Bros. Discovery people

29:42

contribute to the

29:45

fundraiser for Jay's family since

29:48

They wouldn't contribute to anything else while

29:50

he was around to take advantage of

29:52

it.

29:52

What do you think of Mark

29:54

Briscoe versus Jay lethal preview that for

29:56

a second while we're talking about

29:58

this. For the first time, I

30:00

think in recorded history,

30:02

I am actually overjoyed

30:04

at the thought of see in a match

30:06

on 278 If they

30:08

give them time to do what

30:10

they can do and if they don't try to

30:12

do too much and

30:14

get hurt in the process, that's

30:17

probably gonna be one of the better

30:19

wrestling matches that we will see on

30:21

that television program before

30:24

and

30:24

after. I have to think it's universal

30:26

that everyone is gonna be

30:28

just delighted to see Mark on that show.

30:31

And it's gonna you know, I gotta say, seeing this

30:33

news now. I'm really looking forward now to see

30:35

this match. And boy, you know, put that

30:38

on first. If anything

30:40

can possibly hold

30:43

the big

30:43

bangers, do

30:45

a nice package explaining

30:48

who Jay was and what

30:51

happened and segue right

30:53

into that match and give him

30:55

the first first quarter hour

30:57

and part of the second one, and I bet

30:59

you they would keep a significant

31:02

portion of that audience.

31:03

Well, that's the big news. The

31:06

breaking news Mark Briscoe versus Jay

31:08

lethal on dynamite. Certainly, you'll hear this

31:10

review this weekend on the experience. But Jim, let's get back to

31:12

something that And and by the way, if it was

31:14

Tony or whoever else stood up

31:16

or if it was the

31:18

the fans just by popular demand

31:20

or

31:20

whatever. Or the wrestlers

31:23

or the wrestlers. Everybody.

31:26

Anyway, so we're back

31:29

to 278. Oh,

31:31

boy. Raw, as a

31:33

matter of fact, it certainly was. As the

31:35

retrospective video they

31:37

did of the pro at the top of the

31:39

program, again, it's

31:41

great. It's in credible editing. They

31:43

have a fantastic, you know, technical

31:46

staff and the research work by

31:48

the production assistants

31:50

and the log of all those shows and those moments and

31:53

everything was incredible, and it was a lot of

31:55

stars and a lot of moments. And

31:57

again, I'm afraid it

31:59

reinforces that the the

32:01

old names were bigger and the

32:03

old moments were More

32:06

momentous.

32:08

Let's talk

32:09

about that video. It was really good.

32:11

It was really cool seeing all

32:13

those clips. But let's talk

32:14

about who wasn't in the video.

32:16

Because they had Jericho,

32:17

they had Brian Danielson. It's hard

32:19

to ignore those guys when you're talking about the

32:21

history of raw.

32:22

Big North

32:23

Sea and Punk? Big North

32:25

Sasha Banks.

32:26

What does

32:27

that tell

32:29

you? Well,

32:29

it tells me that

32:31

I know

32:34

that they He was a big admission. He was a

32:36

big part of that show for a long

32:38

time. I I mean,

32:40

the Sasha thing, while that's up in the

32:42

air, and and, you know,

32:45

honesty, they got three minutes for all the great

32:47

moments on raw or whatever. I don't know

32:49

if Sasha would qualify that strongly

32:51

anyway. Tunk is a

32:53

a different issue. With Danielson and

32:57

Jericho, they

32:59

know that Jericho's got a ten year

33:02

contract or whatever. He was

33:03

Cad enough to let everybody know about

33:06

that. So it's not

33:08

like that they are trying to

33:10

say, oh, all is forgiven. You can come home whenever you

33:12

can get of that madhouse. So

33:16

is it just to kinda show

33:18

a? We don't really see

33:20

this as a threat anymore?

33:22

They a big show was in the

33:24

clip where they collapsed

33:26

the ring. Right?

33:28

Mark Henry was in bed with May Young.

33:31

Mark Henry was in bed with well, and and

33:33

I'm talking about just the television program.

33:35

No. I'm I'm I'm kidding. Hi, Josh.

33:38

dead you. Well,

33:40

are you blaming Mark?

33:47

We're back to the retrospectively around.

33:50

I'm not worried about Mark. Back to the

33:52

retrospective. Back

33:54

to the retrospective. So anyway,

33:57

but But, yeah, that is

34:00

Well, at the same time,

34:03

it may not show that there's heat with

34:05

punk. It may show that they don't wanna get

34:07

if there's any kind of a

34:09

guy's in the middle of potentially what could

34:11

be a legal situation. I don't know

34:13

that they want to and

34:16

wouldn't get any of that on

34:18

them. But nevertheless,

34:20

by the way, we should notate

34:23

that they did the commercial free first hour

34:26

gimmick. And

34:28

I don't know if that threw them off for

34:30

the rest of the show, but boy, this was

34:32

a long first hour, wasn't it?

34:38

Well, I don't I don't

34:40

know. They could have

34:42

told the story that they told

34:44

with the bloodline in the first hour

34:46

and maybe

34:48

about ten minutes less. I gotta be honest with you because this did go

34:50

a while, but at the same time, it's the top guys

34:52

in the company, and it's the only thing

34:56

that wasn't it really

34:58

legendary at it. I remember this was

35:00

gonna be because apparently

35:02

they were gonna have a tribal council where

35:05

they had Alpha and Sika Alpha

35:07

and Sika. Alpha

35:10

and Rakeshi.

35:12

Stop his sweet daddy. He couldn't make it down from Toronto. Let's

35:15

see if the

35:18

porn star

35:20

was available. Oh my

35:22

god. Is she still blonde? I

35:24

wonder. Probably gray now.

35:28

Anyway, they apparently, they couldn't travel, they couldn't make it so they

35:30

changed it to the trial of

35:32

Sami Zane. But

35:34

from the time that the blood line

35:37

They didn't get the rock. That's why they changed

35:39

it. Well, from the time the bloodline

35:42

made their

35:44

entrance, Until the time the promo was over, it was almost twenty

35:46

five minutes. And is

35:49

good, but giminelli, alright,

35:52

So, and and five minutes is

35:54

the the entrance of the bloodline, and

35:56

I know their stars again. But

35:59

I just think that they

36:02

contribute during the

36:04

time that they're making

36:06

this grand entrance, the announcer are

36:08

flashing out the story, but as you said, lot of

36:10

time tune out the announcer. And secondly, I think

36:12

a lot of people if they're DVR ing

36:15

or even pausing for

36:17

commercials, they skip past the announcer setting the shit up

36:19

because they know by now this is a five minute

36:22

entrance. And if you have

36:24

the ability

36:26

to skip it, aren't

36:28

you? At this point, if you

36:30

have hearing issues with different pitches, there's a

36:32

chance you only hear Corey Graves on

36:34

this show.

36:35

Like, you know, well, and

36:38

that's that's nothing because I

36:40

have problems because

36:42

of the Piro damage, it's been done to me in

36:44

the past with my hearing to

36:46

begin with, and it is hard when they're when they

36:48

get the music going 278 all

36:50

nine yards. But

36:52

anyway, it's it's a lot of the

36:54

show is zippable because of the

36:56

length of the entrances and the

36:58

commercial breaks and the various

37:00

gaga before you get to anything.

37:03

But everybody there, it's in

37:05

Roman and Hammond and Solo and

37:07

Usos and Poor Sammy. And

37:10

they're all around the conference

37:12

table. And poll

37:16

is prosecuting Sammy

37:18

Zane for, you know, basically being

37:20

a a traitor to turncoat and

37:23

when the fans were chanting, ECW,

37:25

Paul said ECW is in

37:27

and I wish the same for

37:29

Sami Zane. Last week, he

37:31

was smoothly. Right.

37:34

Smooty. But the

37:36

fans are chanting Sammy and Paul's

37:38

telling Roman and everybody that

37:40

Sammy is a traitor and he's in

37:43

supremacy with Kevin Owens and they came

37:45

up with a video. Of

37:48

Sammy, a couple times in the past,

37:50

either not helping the

37:52

bloodline or be a day late in dollar short or

37:54

whatever. It tied in a

37:56

number of things that they've done in

37:58

finishes and angles over

38:00

the past couple months and very clever. I'd

38:02

like to think that they meant to do this from

38:04

the start, but I guarantee you one or

38:06

two of

38:08

those Enterprising production assistance had to be the one to go back

38:10

and log all this footage and figure out a way to make

38:12

sense out of it. Heyman was great.

38:15

Haman was fantastic. What he showed, he goes,

38:17

here's him showing four life. What does he wanna do

38:19

in the NWA? The horseman? What

38:21

is this? The

38:24

dangerous alliance? He had to get that one in

38:26

there. And then he

38:28

accuses Sammy of assault that

38:30

they had a clip

38:32

when Sammy did a promo and accidentally kind of bumped into

38:34

Roman Reigns. And see he was trying to take

38:36

over his head of the table.

38:38

And Paul

38:40

demanded that Sami

38:42

Zane be found guilty out to him.

38:44

If he had played the

38:46

fucking part of William Jennings, Brian,

38:49

and inherit the wind, it would have

38:51

God damn even being greater. What did

38:53

they call William Jennings Bryan and inherit

38:55

the wind? What was his

38:58

name? God damn it. I just watched

39:00

that the other night. I didn't.

39:02

Anyway, it was

39:05

a thinly veiled

39:08

serialization of the Scopes Monkey trial.

39:11

So finally, Sammy

39:14

is just he's shitting

39:16

himself. Right? He's looking at all over with it.

39:18

Then he says, Paul, it

39:20

hurts coming from you. All those times you

39:22

hug me. He said you

39:24

loved me. And he did a a great

39:26

job of being indignant at this

39:28

whole thing. And he got it. He doesn't need to

39:30

defend himself. He had

39:32

his defenses. He has

39:34

no defense. This is

39:36

all just completely made up

39:38

at a

39:40

whole clock. And then Roman gets mad. But go what? But

39:42

no defense. You won't even argue

39:44

for this. You won't fight for this.

39:46

I've given

39:48

you and he sends solo over to giving the spike 278

39:50

that Sammy looks like the guy

39:52

that's supposed to be executed. Do you

39:54

just stat an error, you know, sitting

39:57

there waiting for it.

40:00

And Solo's about to give him the

40:02

spike. And Jay

40:04

blocked Solo's Thumb

40:06

catches his arm. And

40:08

Jay said, wait wait wait a

40:10

minute. And Jay started to talk and

40:12

quick. Apparently, somebody had given him the Iggy this needs to

40:15

move along. Because Jay put together

40:17

a video and it just pops

40:20

up. And there is, like, five or six things

40:22

that Sammy has done to help

40:24

them where he stays eating the

40:28

Claimor kick for Roman and he's

40:30

have prevented somebody else from

40:32

making a save, and he's been there right at

40:34

the moment. And

40:36

the fans are but here's

40:38

the thing again because they've

40:40

created this situation. The fans are

40:42

now cheering the video of one

40:45

of the heels Sami Zayn screwing all of

40:47

the baby faces. But that's

40:51

where we're at. And so

40:54

Jay of all people,

40:56

the guy that, you know, he's not hated

40:58

you, but, you know, but now you've

41:00

proven yourself. You didn't give up and

41:02

then you're family, and Paul, meanwhile, in the quarter, Facially, having a

41:04

snit over there. And the

41:06

fans are chanting Sammy Eussaud. And

41:11

finally, Romans declares him, I find you

41:13

not guilty for

41:16

now. And

41:18

basically, he says finish

41:20

tonight 278 then disappear till

41:22

the royal rumble. I don't wanna see you.

41:24

And if you can pass your final test,

41:27

Then we'll see if you're bloodline

41:29

or not. So again, a tease for the

41:31

pay per view. Very

41:34

nice. But by the time that they've

41:36

finished that interview, remember we said Hogan

41:38

welcomed us, and we got a package.

41:42

And this interview, we're half an

41:44

hour in a show.

41:46

And then we come back

41:49

from the break and the first match is

41:51

the Usos. No, it

41:54

wasn't a break because it's commercial

41:56

free. They just went to the

41:58

announcer for a second and come back to the ring,

42:00

and there's the use of it here comes a

42:02

judgment day. And now

42:04

for the raw tag team title, we

42:06

got judgment day, Dominic, and

42:08

priest against the Usos, and

42:11

Ripley and Finn and Sam here

42:13

in the quarters. And again, I'm like, who are the heels? But since

42:15

all of the babyface tag teams

42:19

practically, they've got

42:21

Are the shits? These are the

42:23

two coolest teams. Why aren't

42:25

the Russo's baby faces? Even though

42:27

Roman's clearly a heel, based on

42:29

everything we've seen, are they kind of

42:31

babyface? Well, but then

42:34

they can't really be babyfaces if

42:36

they're hanging out with a heel and Paul Hayman's

42:38

the wise man, and they've been presented as

42:40

heels for the past three

42:42

years, but

42:43

that's family. That's family

42:46

for you. Well, but the the people are cheering for

42:48

them, especially whatever they're

42:50

on Sammy's side. So,

42:52

anyway, now

42:54

if I guess they would be the in the babyface

42:57

sympathetic position here against

42:59

judgment day who are full

43:01

fledged heels apparently. And

43:04

they worked hard this

43:07

match, but at the same point,

43:09

did are you seeing a pattern that we've

43:11

been talking about for the past few

43:13

weeks they start having this match and the

43:16

people zone out in the

43:18

arena. They're kinda

43:20

sitting there. And part of it it went a

43:22

while. Because it there's another, I

43:24

think, twenty minutes of this match of the

43:26

same people they've seen interacting in the

43:28

ring for

43:30

twenty something minutes. And the main

43:32

problem is on raw, the

43:34

the interviews are important,

43:37

the moments that debuts are important, the returns are important,

43:39

and then the matches are where everybody

43:42

just gets ready for the next one of the things I

43:44

just mentioned.

43:46

And everyone swab, somebody breaks piece of furniture

43:48

or takes a bump. It

43:50

looks like it paralyzes some people pop.

43:54

But otherwise, WWE crowds,

43:56

they're trained that the matches or the

43:58

interludes in the in the drama. So

44:03

Fin Ballard interfered and

44:05

got ejected at one

44:08

point, and then I

44:10

like the story they told in this match.

44:13

It's just everything's taken

44:15

so long. USAA Jimmy

44:18

does a dive and hurts his leg and

44:20

everything comes to a halt. AND

44:22

THERE'S A CONFERENCE AND ALL OF

44:24

THE DOCTORS AND PEARS AND HE'S HELPED

44:26

TO THE BACK. THE REFERENT SAYS can't

44:29

continue, and Pierce tells me they're gonna

44:31

forfeit, but then Sammy agrees

44:34

to take his place, and then the place

44:36

wakes up. And Pierce agrees to it and

44:38

the match continues Sammy

44:40

starts shining. We're forty five minutes into the

44:42

program now, but now

44:44

they're actually Kindly

44:46

given a shit about this. I'm not so

44:48

it's a great they structured

44:51

this well. Just took them

44:53

a while to

44:53

get there.

44:54

I anybody may have heard his name for us because when it happened

44:56

and before Sammy came out, I rewound it several

44:58

times. I was watching live just to

45:01

see how he

45:02

landed. And then by the time I was

45:04

back to real TV or real time,

45:06

Sammy was out there. You

45:08

know,

45:09

and and at the That's the

45:10

thing is that, you

45:12

know, they knew they were gonna kick it up a

45:14

notch when they substitute Sammy

45:16

for one of the USOs.

45:20

And that's the natural place where people should

45:22

have got more invested, but I'm just

45:24

saying, it took them a

45:26

while to get there, especially with what they did later

45:28

in this program. Don't know what nevertheless.

45:30

They did a couple of fucking

45:32

nice false finishes back and forth,

45:35

and then finally, Sammy

45:38

and Jay, Uso,

45:40

hit the one d on Dominic,

45:42

and Sammy covered him at 123.

45:45

And that was great, and it was a great final

45:48

five minutes as I said, but by the

45:50

time they did all of that business, it was over

45:52

forty minutes from start

45:54

to finish.

45:54

But I after I saw some of the

45:57

other stuff,

45:57

I'm, say, well, be thankful for small

45:59

favors, I guess. It

46:01

was forty minutes

46:02

on a three hour show and it just happened to contain

46:04

the most captivating storyline they have.

46:06

So I

46:07

can't complain too much,

46:09

although it go a while, but by the opening

46:11

segment? The Massey, I would I would just give

46:13

them credit for they'd have somewhere else to go

46:16

from there with every

46:18

big star that's still breathing

46:20

practically in in the locker room that they've

46:22

ever had on a show, but it was all

46:24

downhill from here. Fans really got

46:26

into it after Sammy got involved. Sammy

46:28

is super over right now. We should probably talk

46:30

about that in a

46:30

second, but I just wanna say because I

46:32

complimented him several times recently. Dominic

46:35

Mostario. I love him as

46:37

a heel.

46:37

And when it looked

46:40

like he was about to get the pin, even I

46:42

was not

46:44

him. He came at the pin.

46:46

So they got something with

46:48

him. Again, he still has to probably

46:51

work on a lot of things in the ring,

46:53

but, you know, prison changes a man though.

46:56

Prison changes a man and I'd like to be in that

46:58

prison of being chained up by Ria

46:59

Ripley. That sounds wonderful.

47:01

Well, there you go. Boy, you ought to see

47:03

those leg irons they got.

47:05

Anyway, so Sammy's

47:08

in.

47:08

We've talked about how great he's been in this

47:10

whole thing and how over he is now.

47:12

Based on how over

47:15

he is and

47:17

and I mean, we've been talking about this every week, but do you see

47:19

things differently this week than you did last week or the

47:21

week before in terms of what direction it should

47:24

go in towards

47:26

mania with Sammy's

47:26

name? Well, I mean, it's it

47:29

seemed like this was a

47:31

kind of a jump a

47:33

quick jump ahead from

47:36

Roman being a little grumpy with him 278.

47:38

I got a spiky now and

47:40

blah blah blah. But I I assume

47:43

they've still got another eight or

47:45

nine weeks before WrestleMania or whatever it

47:47

is, so they're gonna space this

47:49

out. But I think Obviously,

47:51

at WrestleMania, something

47:54

has to transpire where 278

47:58

people can be full throated behind Sammy.

48:01

However, this break

48:04

split CASM

48:06

is going to develop between Sammy and

48:08

the bloodline. It's got to be right about

48:10

that time, right, because 278

48:12

or or would happen at WrestleMania, but probably if

48:15

they wanna make WrestleMania strong,

48:19

It would beforehand. I go

48:21

back to the question

48:23

if Cody wins the rumble. Is

48:25

Sammy in the rumble?

48:27

He will.

48:31

Depending on, I

48:34

guess, how many people else they got in the rumble, he would

48:37

almost have to be, Woodney? I guess that's the

48:39

question. A a guy featured like

48:41

that would almost have to be. And

48:43

we have Owens versus

48:45

Roman that which he'll be involved

48:47

with. If it appears

48:50

like the logical thing is getting

48:52

somehow to Roman versus Sami for one of the

48:54

nights of WrestleMania, how does that affect

48:56

Cody who every video they're showing

48:58

of Cody, I've said it before and it becomes more and

49:00

more transparent every week. If he doesn't win the rumble,

49:02

something's wrong. Well, I don't we're

49:04

not I don't think we're getting Roman Sami

49:06

at WrestleMania unless the

49:09

rock is definitely

49:10

out. Report as the rock

49:12

is definitely out. Well, son of

49:14

a gun, I thought we could count on

49:17

him. Well, in

49:20

that case, The

49:21

report is

49:22

that the

49:23

Rock has informed WWE that he doesn't

49:26

have enough time to get in

49:28

the shape.

49:29

God damn he looks

49:31

pretty fucking good when I see him on

49:33

his television program. It was great standing still. What

49:35

about when he falls down? Well, that

49:37

might be a different

49:40

story. But still,

49:42

do we see Roman and

49:44

Sammy at WrestleMania, Night One, and

49:46

then Cody. But because Roman will even

49:48

if we have Roman and Sammy, Roman

49:51

will beat Sammy. And then we have Roman and Cody

49:53

Night two? Well, I guess

49:55

other question is if Sammy is this hot right

49:57

now? And he's this hot? As

49:59

he's ever been and people really love him and he's doing a

50:01

great job with

50:02

it. How

50:02

do you get from here to WrestleMania

50:05

a few months away so that

50:07

he doesn't lose that? And what do you do with him

50:09

then? Because you don't want him just to be in a throwaway match? I don't know

50:11

if him and Owen's versus

50:14

the Usos. Just to use an

50:15

example, would be enough

50:18

to kinda go

50:19

with the spirit of everything that's been happening for

50:21

the last year The question

50:23

is, how are you gonna use

50:26

Sami getting the mania? I don't know.

50:31

They don't pay me to do that. No.

50:33

In all honesty, I I

50:35

like this thing with Sammy and

50:37

the bloodline because I don't really

50:39

know exactly we know eventually what the concept, what's

50:42

gonna happen is that

50:44

Sami's gonna end up on

50:46

the 278 but we don't know

50:48

how or who's gonna instigate it or

50:50

exactly what the process is gonna

50:52

And because of the things

50:55

up in the air and the rock schedule it, etcetera. don't even really

50:57

know for sure what the matches are

50:59

gonna be at WrestleMania. We need

51:01

to know sooner than

51:04

later for promotional consideration. But

51:06

I like the fact that they've got

51:08

something that we're interested in

51:10

and we can't call every step of it.

51:13

And I, honestly, at this point,

51:15

I don't know what I

51:17

would do. I know what you you

51:19

can't do. You can't You can't

51:24

really do the thing now

51:26

where they

51:28

jump Sammy Bombardied, been leaving for dead and the

51:30

people are sympathetic over it because now he

51:32

ought to know better because he's been warned, because

51:34

they're already

51:36

Looking sideways at him and Roman was gonna have solo

51:40

spiking. So it almost has to be

51:42

something where

51:44

Sammy has the choice to make

51:46

in in the moment and,

51:48

you know, chooses fair

51:50

play or whatever's right instead

51:53

of what the bloodlines interests

51:55

are and screws them in

51:57

some kind of fashion. And then then

51:59

they have caused to you

52:01

jump him to do whatever. But

52:04

if he gets beaten down by

52:06

the the gang

52:08

of people, that he that we're about

52:10

to beat him down, that he's still hanging around, that takes some of

52:12

his sympathy, Wayne, it doesn't look as smart.

52:16

Doesn't

52:16

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52:18

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52:20

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was a little trepidation about

56:55

the next what and here's

56:57

what they ended up doing With

56:59

the popery of legends that didn't

57:01

get a speaking part and

57:03

just appeared on camera, the

57:06

background or in the whatever the

57:08

poker game. And

57:10

I like Bradshaw, I like Ron

57:14

Simmons. And I know that was their gimmick twenty

57:16

five years ago or

57:18

whatever. And and I wouldn't

57:20

even mind the idea of the poker

57:22

game, but Okay.

57:24

We see JBL walk in

57:26

with Baron Von Corben. Right? And

57:28

they run into Godfather who's

57:32

got the VAP list or the access list for the

57:34

poker game in the

57:36

APA's office.

57:40

And He has no idea who Barry

57:42

Corbin is. Now I know.

57:44

Here's the thing they're ribbon on

57:46

a square. Nobody

57:48

else does either, but

57:52

should one of

57:54

the legends of the WWE

57:56

not know who this guy

57:58

is that's been pushed on their

58:00

television for

58:02

years. At this

58:05

point. And he walks

58:07

up with JBL, and they're doing a

58:09

comedy sketch. Yes. I understand the

58:11

writers wanna have the Legends interactive

58:13

blah, blah, blah, but they're making a complete embassy. If

58:16

it hadn't been done already by mother nature in

58:18

the booking,

58:20

of Baron Von Corben. How do

58:22

you see what I'm saying? They're acting

58:25

like nobody knows who the modern talent

58:27

is, even the old talent?

58:30

Would if give

58:33

me a goddamn baseball player

58:35

from thirty years ago on

58:38

the Mets. Keith Hernandez. Okay. If he walked

58:40

in right now, would he

58:42

know at least the

58:44

names of and potentially

58:46

recognize most

58:48

of the starting lineup of the current

58:50

team? Absolutely. Of course.

58:53

Okay. Well, here they're

58:55

all and then Ron comes

58:58

out And he doesn't know who this fucking guy is either. Who's

59:00

the Stooge? They keep calling him

59:02

a Stooge, and then, of course, when

59:05

Korbin shows that the all

59:07

the cash he's brought they let him

59:09

in. Because they're gonna take him for a sucker

59:11

because he's an idiot. And Bradshaw is

59:14

his manager. And he's with

59:16

him. So

59:18

I love Brad Sean, Ross, the first

59:22

That was the first sign that Vince didn't go home when Brad's when Bradshaw

59:24

showed up as a manager all of a sudden on

59:26

TV. Well, they had he can

59:28

talk and they had to do something for Corbin.

59:31

Well, they didn't have to, but I guess they

59:33

wanted to. But so they walked through the

59:35

fake door. That's the

59:38

gimmick from raw years ago and backstage

59:40

is set up as an

59:42

entire, like, casino with all

59:44

of the legends and

59:46

the talent sitting around playing

59:48

poker and Cabot sing

59:49

and just having

59:51

a wonderful time.

59:54

Answering the question of where is

59:56

Johnny Gargano? Yes. He's in the poker lounge. And there was

59:58

Gardano and his wife,

1:00:00

the

1:00:00

pixie, and they're just standing there.

1:00:02

And they did that well. That's

1:00:05

usually what they do well and just stand

1:00:07

there. Yeah. Well, we'll get back to

1:00:09

the poker game.

1:00:12

But The next

1:00:16

one, LA night. And I

1:00:18

like the guy. I'm not saying he's gonna

1:00:21

be the next fucking rock. Right?

1:00:23

Well, he can talk, he can work, he can have a

1:00:25

professional wrestling match. He he has movement to

1:00:27

him. He's experienced. Got

1:00:30

some personality. I'm beginning to believe

1:00:33

it's all for naught at this point because

1:00:35

after the Max DuPree fiasco,

1:00:40

where they just made him a completely different

1:00:42

person for no reason to the point where he knew

1:00:44

it, sucks so bad. He couldn't even

1:00:46

do it. And then they just erased that with a

1:00:48

backstage beat down

1:00:50

of the Monois and

1:00:53

Marseille or whoever the

1:00:56

fuck And now he's with Bray Wyatt, and that's

1:00:58

a doomed spot. How they've

1:01:00

even talked about it. It's

1:01:03

somebody's knocking on

1:01:05

the door. knocking. Actually, they're

1:01:07

knocking on the ceiling. My carpenters

1:01:10

are at work today, so please

1:01:12

excuse me.

1:01:12

They've even

1:01:16

said from the scuttlebutt

1:01:18

from the office is they under

1:01:22

stand that you you

1:01:24

can almost be assured that

1:01:26

whoever is booked with Bray Wyatt will

1:01:30

be buried. It's hard to book anybody that doesn't get buried by this

1:01:32

fucking thing. Right? This whole

1:01:34

gimmick, this whole world

1:01:36

they're creating. So he

1:01:38

knocks the legends of a few

1:01:40

minutes does LA Night and then

1:01:44

Gong. The undertaker's gong and I

1:01:46

sit up and I

1:01:48

open my eyes and I start

1:01:50

sharpening my pencil and the

1:01:52

people who

1:01:54

and that lasts a gong or two and the

1:01:57

taker music starts, and then

1:02:00

it transitions to

1:02:02

that fucking 278 rock,

1:02:05

American badass, his right

1:02:08

wing, fake trailer park

1:02:10

trash, fucking

1:02:12

And Stace had

1:02:15

walked in to look at

1:02:17

the poker game and said, oh, Jimmy's

1:02:19

looking good, hard, and

1:02:22

etcetera. And then the the gong,

1:02:24

she thinks she's gonna see the undertaker too.

1:02:26

And then suddenly at the same time when

1:02:28

air comes American badass, we both

1:02:31

say, oh, no. Sort

1:02:33

of the fans in the arena if

1:02:35

you noticed? Yes. They

1:02:38

didn't

1:02:38

get the undertaker. They got

1:02:40

Mark Callaway on his motorcycle. With

1:02:42

that, again, with that fucking piece

1:02:44

of trash kid rocks, right

1:02:47

wing, horse shit, and

1:02:50

his street clothes

1:02:52

and a motorcycle that

1:02:55

came fifty feet down the

1:02:58

fucking rant or down the the

1:03:00

aisleway and then an awkward

1:03:02

dismount.

1:03:02

What were you gonna say?

1:03:04

You keep shitting on kid rock for his politics.

1:03:06

You don't have a problem with his shitty music? Just, no. The music shits.

1:03:09

The music is the shits, but

1:03:11

it it was overwhelmed

1:03:14

and overshadowed by his just shittiness as

1:03:16

a human

1:03:16

being. Every time I've seen with the

1:03:19

fucking fuck Joe Biden, I

1:03:21

love Trump, I like to suck his orange dick shit

1:03:23

for the past five years.

1:03:26

But nevertheless, So

1:03:28

we don't get the undertaker. We get Mark Callaway who walks

1:03:31

in a ring and fires up and everything,

1:03:33

but it's it's not the

1:03:36

undertaker. And remember, we we said

1:03:38

this when we talked about the undertaker biography

1:03:40

and the retirement and the whole nine yards.

1:03:44

In hindsight, the American

1:03:46

badass was a good thing because

1:03:49

it made the people nostalgic

1:03:52

for the undertaker. How could I miss you if

1:03:54

you won't go away? You went away. And

1:03:56

then when they brought it back, people loved it.

1:03:58

For then on, it was gold. We

1:04:00

don't want to see the fucking American badass anymore. Is it

1:04:03

ain't the undertaker? Didn't Vince

1:04:06

even hate

1:04:08

it? I don't know.

1:04:10

And and then so now

1:04:12

LA nights on the

1:04:14

floor, undertakers in the ring, And

1:04:18

LA night's doing, hey, I agree with you. The

1:04:20

locker room is soft,

1:04:22

but you said so

1:04:24

I'd fight you right

1:04:26

now and would send the undertaker to the undertaker, but

1:04:28

I'll let you live as he's backing

1:04:30

up out of the entranceway.

1:04:32

Okay. Well, I have then

1:04:34

I know what's

1:04:36

coming next, and I have a horrible

1:04:38

feeling. And there's a

1:04:40

blackout and

1:04:42

spooky music and the

1:04:44

blue light, and suddenly,

1:04:46

Bray Wyatt is behind LA

1:04:48

night with the lantern. And the

1:04:51

music creeps along, and LA

1:04:53

night creeps back, and

1:04:56

everybody's creeping And and

1:04:59

that's when Stacey said, is

1:05:01

anything going to happen and she walked out of

1:05:03

the room? Because as like, what the fuck

1:05:05

is slow as molasses us in January as mama

1:05:07

cornet used to say. And finally,

1:05:10

LA night backs away from Brake

1:05:12

White by getting into the ring and

1:05:14

turning his on the

1:05:16

undertaker. Where the undertaker

1:05:18

grabs him by the Guzman is gonna

1:05:20

choke slam him, but

1:05:22

then undertaker sees Bray Wyatt,

1:05:25

An undertaker shows LA Night

1:05:27

to Bray Wyatt and and

1:05:30

that's when Stacey said, is anything going

1:05:32

to happen and she walked out of the

1:05:34

room? Because as what the fuck is as slow as molasses in

1:05:36

January as mama used to

1:05:38

say. And finally,

1:05:41

LA night away from bright white by getting into the ring

1:05:43

and turning his back on the

1:05:46

undertaker. Where the undertaker

1:05:48

grabs him by the Guzman is gonna choke

1:05:50

slam 278, But

1:05:52

then undertaker sees Bray

1:05:54

Wyatt, and undertaker shows

1:05:56

l a knight to Bray Wyatt, and Bray

1:05:58

Wyatt gives him the sister Abigail

1:06:01

An LA Night rolls out never

1:06:03

to be seen again,

1:06:06

and then undertaker and Bray Wyatt face off

1:06:09

and undertaker leans over

1:06:12

and whispers something to Bray Wyatt,

1:06:14

which is just the just

1:06:16

the talk of Twitter this morning. What could he

1:06:18

have said? Probably,

1:06:20

it sounded a lot better when we went over

1:06:22

it in the locker

1:06:23

room. You got an easier deal than

1:06:25

I

1:06:25

ever heard. There you go.

1:06:27

And then Taker gets on the

1:06:29

motorcycle at ringside, and he can't

1:06:31

start it. And you and they keep cutting back

1:06:33

to Brie Wyatt

1:06:36

because take her in getting the bike started. And you can see one guy in the

1:06:38

front row point and, like, you gotta do something

1:06:40

there. And then he finally

1:06:42

starts it and he rides fifty

1:06:45

feet back down the

1:06:48

entranceway and stops and turns around.

1:06:50

It's the first bad

1:06:52

undertaker segment I think ever in the

1:06:54

history of

1:06:55

wrestling. He

1:06:56

should've just put it in neutral, let them push

1:06:58

him to choose my side.

1:07:02

And look on the bright side, you know what? Considering

1:07:04

how shitty this was in every

1:07:06

respect, the wrong undertaker

1:07:09

The Bray Wyatt

1:07:11

stuff,

1:07:12

LA Night is doing as

1:07:15

well as anyone could do under these circumstances, and

1:07:17

I think he's actually I don't know if they'll

1:07:19

use

1:07:19

them. I don't know if it'll go

1:07:21

anywhere for him.

1:07:23

But the

1:07:23

fans are reacting to him. He's starting to

1:07:25

get over. They're doing his I don't know

1:07:27

what his catch phrases, yeah, or

1:07:30

whatever. But they're doing it. They're doing

1:07:32

it with

1:07:32

So they're

1:07:33

into him a little bit. He's got

1:07:34

good material. He delivers it well. Seems

1:07:37

like a tweaked out wrestler. Like, you

1:07:39

believe he'd be a crazy

1:07:41

wrestler.

1:07:42

But then they keep job in a mess.

1:07:43

So if he does a good job, but it's like

1:07:45

the Austin

1:07:46

Theory thing, although he's a bit older than Austin

1:07:48

Theory, which is why I don't have as much

1:07:50

hope. That they'll straighten it

1:07:52

out, but he's been great. He's been one of the highlights of WWE programming.

1:07:54

As bad as the Bray Wyatt stuff is,

1:07:58

he's good. But now

1:08:00

think about this.

1:08:02

Undertaker could have choke

1:08:05

slam them. It seventy nine, you have him Bray. So he throws

1:08:07

him to Bray. Bray drops him on his head. You

1:08:09

never see LA night again. Takers

1:08:12

retired. Bray

1:08:14

Wyatt. Just came back, but he's been around for fifteen years in some

1:08:16

form or another. And

1:08:18

and so the newest guy

1:08:21

is the guy that got shit on and and left out

1:08:23

of the equation? And, yes, I know the fans of

1:08:26

the supernatural, one step beyond,

1:08:32

they they loved the idea of taker and

1:08:34

Braewide and the ring together except they

1:08:36

didn't even see undertaker, but Bray

1:08:39

Wyatt has goddamn supernatural

1:08:42

fucking puppets talking pigs

1:08:46

and whatever But we can't even see

1:08:48

the undertaker with some eye makeup

1:08:50

and the goddamn entrance and the

1:08:52

whole nine yards. Some druids maybe

1:08:54

to him. He's he's just gonna come out dressed in street clothes. I don't

1:08:57

know. And the LA

1:08:59

night stuff, the

1:09:01

problem is they have a track record. They show

1:09:03

you what they think of you when they use you this way with the did it the wrong way, I

1:09:05

remember. Years and years ago, we got

1:09:07

beat up by fifteen

1:09:11

litges of the ring. And one after another in

1:09:13

the bump from one to the other to the

1:09:15

other. But FTR with DX is the

1:09:17

famous one that everyone talks about

1:09:20

now because they first talked about it here

1:09:22

on

1:09:22

this show. Yeah.

1:09:23

So, I mean, there were examples. WWE, you have someone that the fans

1:09:25

may think has something and they're, alright,

1:09:27

just go out there and get

1:09:30

beat up by these old people. And then I'm

1:09:32

not saying that about the undertaker

1:09:33

necessarily, but, you know, that's

1:09:33

the thing that doesn't give me hope for

1:09:34

LA night there. It says something about the way they

1:09:39

think of you when they're building up a big match, this lights out

1:09:41

match, match has a fucking sponsor

1:09:43

Mountain Dew, and they're gonna

1:09:45

have you use like this

1:09:47

a week

1:09:48

before. Why didn't they

1:09:49

just save poor LA night? And who's the mayor? Considering what they've done

1:09:51

with the mayor? Why didn't they do that with the

1:09:53

mayor? Well, he has to get beat

1:09:55

up later on. But at

1:09:57

least he got beat up by one of

1:10:00

the current members of the roster,

1:10:01

but why couldn't Bray Wyatt be in the ring doing

1:10:03

one of his promos people

1:10:05

love even though he never really

1:10:08

gets anywhere, but, mainly, couldn't he

1:10:10

be conflicted again about, I don't

1:10:12

know if I should do this.

1:10:14

Or I don't know if I should let this

1:10:16

this monster out of its

1:10:18

cage again or whatever. And

1:10:20

boom, undertaker music.

1:10:23

Here comes the undertaker. Gets any brings

1:10:25

the lights up with his supernatural powers. And

1:10:27

he tells fucking BrakeWai he gives

1:10:29

BrakeWai at one line of

1:10:31

advice that makes

1:10:33

sense and whatever the

1:10:35

fuck universe they're in these days. Enough with the howdy duty shit. There you

1:10:37

got enough with the howdy

1:10:39

duty shit kid. Or

1:10:43

whatever it may be. And then there's

1:10:46

the fucking bong and

1:10:48

the lights out. And when

1:10:50

they come out, come back on, undertakers gone,

1:10:52

and then Bray White can do

1:10:54

his firefly fun house or whatever.

1:10:56

And then you've

1:10:59

seen the real undertaker You've had that moment,

1:11:01

but you didn't have to beat the fuck out of LA night,

1:11:03

and they wouldn't have it wouldn't have

1:11:05

cost them any buys on

1:11:07

the Row Rumble. Or

1:11:09

whatever not buys. Nobody buys it anymore. Nevertheless.

1:11:11

See, I see it as give the

1:11:14

undertaker the miss thing.

1:11:17

Because it would have accomplished the same thing

1:11:19

for both guys and do something where LA night doesn't look weak the of the

1:11:21

pay per

1:11:24

view match. Well, he's looked weak

1:11:26

the month of the pay per view match

1:11:28

because How

1:11:31

about did you

1:11:34

love the Dallas page

1:11:36

interview? I

1:11:38

must have missed the Dallas page interview. There

1:11:41

wasn't one. Diamond

1:11:43

Dallas page for They

1:11:45

bought him a plane ticket. They flew him in. They put him in

1:11:48

the poker game and you

1:11:50

never even heard him speak. He

1:11:52

was playing

1:11:54

poker with Medusa, who you also saw

1:11:57

for that brief

1:12:00

moment. Again, they could have

1:12:02

had interaction with Medusa and

1:12:04

one of the modern women to not

1:12:06

to beat anybody up, but just do

1:12:11

something verbal that may have furthered them or whatever

1:12:13

the

1:12:13

case? Have her out there

1:12:15

with Charlotte and

1:12:18

Becky? There you know,

1:12:20

we're well yeah.

1:12:22

Wait a minute. Hold

1:12:25

on Beky and Bailey. We're we're gonna

1:12:27

get to that next. I said Becky, so Bianca. Charlotte and Bianca. Bianca or Bianca

1:12:29

and Cruella or what I

1:12:31

don't know what point is.

1:12:36

The cage match that they made

1:12:38

a point of advertising for

1:12:40

this week. Right? They set

1:12:42

it up last week, Becky and Bailey. Instead

1:12:45

of having a cage

1:12:48

match, they lower

1:12:50

the cage, they send out

1:12:52

Beky, and then Kaye and

1:12:54

Skye attack Becky before she gets

1:12:57

into the cage. They beat her up

1:12:59

on the floor. They all three

1:13:02

of them with Bailey roller into the cage. They

1:13:04

lock the door and they beat the

1:13:06

shit out of Becky while Pierce Trust

1:13:09

panic and then gets boat cutters and gets in and

1:13:11

the heels laugh so they advertise a

1:13:15

women's cage match and they

1:13:17

gave us a three

1:13:19

minute angle? It was also a forty five minute trial that may have cut into this.

1:13:20

Well, that's what

1:13:23

I was saying. It seemed

1:13:26

a little long at the top of the program. I

1:13:33

don't know. I liked Bailey until she got

1:13:35

the other two do

1:13:38

nothing for her. They're

1:13:40

not top

1:13:42

girls, they're smaller than she

1:13:44

is. So it's not like

1:13:46

they're enforcers or whatever. It's

1:13:49

like Here's Bailey with two underneath

1:13:51

girls, and she's expected to to fight the

1:13:53

one of the most popular women

1:13:55

in the business. What

1:14:00

do you

1:14:03

think? I

1:14:04

think I was kinda

1:14:06

interested to see what they would do with the match

1:14:08

and there was no match. They did this

1:14:09

angle. I'm I'm not

1:14:10

as interested in Bailey now as I used

1:14:11

to be, if that was the question.

1:14:13

278

1:14:15

I know a lot of it's

1:14:16

based on usage. Yeah. There

1:14:18

wasn't really a question there

1:14:21

as much as just moon.

1:14:24

Okay. Now we get to the DX

1:14:26

segment. And this took a while and

1:14:28

they They

1:14:30

had plenty of time for this one

1:14:32

somehow even though the

1:14:34

cage match got rushed.

1:14:36

Again, this is a three

1:14:39

hour program of interviews and entrances.

1:14:42

So and, again,

1:14:45

road dog,

1:14:48

x pack, triple h and Sean and

1:14:50

Kurt Engel was out there. And they did again,

1:14:54

the thing with DX about

1:14:56

this with the DX Reunion a

1:14:58

while back, not long ago. For

1:15:01

its time, yes,

1:15:04

all the EDG teenage kids

1:15:06

like the cussing and the

1:15:08

gesticulating But

1:15:11

now they're all fifty, and they're all gray headed or

1:15:13

bald, and they're all or sixty,

1:15:15

I should say. And they're all gray

1:15:17

headed or bald, and they're still act

1:15:20

and now they had to

1:15:22

act like they didn't notice that Kurt Engel was out there with them, and

1:15:25

then they're doing

1:15:28

their schtick. But they're doing

1:15:30

their schick that gets interrupted because road dog can't introduce and

1:15:36

Triple h is about to say,

1:15:38

let's get ready to suck at when Imperium's music plays.

1:15:40

And It's

1:15:43

the same thing again. Here is

1:15:45

Kurt Engel, Road Dog, XPAC,

1:15:47

Triple 278, Shawn

1:15:50

Michaels. Five of the biggest names of

1:15:52

the past twenty five years in

1:15:55

the company here comes Imperium including

1:15:58

Gunther who is not only being presented as one of the top guys

1:16:00

currently today, but is actually one

1:16:02

of the best talents in the business.

1:16:06

278 they

1:16:08

have to be presented

1:16:10

as fucking stooges and

1:16:13

dipshits to stand there

1:16:15

and let the Fifty and sixty year

1:16:18

old guys make jokes and crackfunnies and

1:16:20

triple h roll his eyes

1:16:22

about if only there was somebody

1:16:26

that could come out to hit the

1:16:28

music queue because here comes fucking sad, but there's only

1:16:30

one of him. If only there were more people,

1:16:34

and here comes street profits. If only

1:16:37

someone could make this match official

1:16:39

and here comes teddy long

1:16:41

to make the match official, they're

1:16:44

parodying their own program

1:16:46

and they're using the current

1:16:48

talent to

1:16:50

stand there and not get

1:16:52

the joke 278 to just they're,

1:16:55

you know, they're pissing on them.

1:16:57

And, you know, at first, they were gonna fight Gunther, but then

1:16:59

triple h says, I'm retired dude. Sean says,

1:17:01

I'm too old, and they

1:17:03

all joke about not

1:17:06

being able to fight the guy,

1:17:08

but the guy has to stand

1:17:10

there and nothing's happening for him.

1:17:12

You see what I'm

1:17:14

saying? Oh, I saw saw it live.

1:17:16

Yeah. So so finally, it took for

1:17:18

fucking ever to get all the other

1:17:20

people out there, and then Teddy Long

1:17:22

and they make a six man

1:17:23

tag, and then they do

1:17:25

the bid well. If only had somebody

1:17:27

to keep order, and then

1:17:29

Kurt has already pulled

1:17:32

off his T shirt, he wore in the

1:17:34

ring to reveal a DX shirt, and now he pulls off the DX shirt. He's got a referee shirt underneath.

1:17:37

Because it

1:17:40

was all set up ahead of time because it's

1:17:42

all phony. They're just making fun of their show being phony. And the

1:17:44

only ones that and the fans are

1:17:46

in on the joke and triple h and

1:17:50

DX incurred the only one's

1:17:52

alien on the joke, is the big fucking

1:17:54

guy across the ring that he and

1:17:56

his stooges have to be the ones

1:17:58

drawing the money? And they look like

1:18:01

bunch of dip shits. And then

1:18:03

they had a six man

1:18:05

tag and the baby

1:18:07

faces won it. And and and and

1:18:09

that states had come back in and said the street profits. She said, do they

1:18:11

always come out dressed that

1:18:14

way they had basketball uniforms

1:18:16

on? This was

1:18:18

for the seventy sixers colors, I believe, because they were in Philly. But she always I

1:18:22

said, yeah. They always

1:18:24

have Basketball uniform, and

1:18:26

she said, and the red solo cups, I said yes. And

1:18:28

then she walked

1:18:31

out of it. And so now they

1:18:33

they beat they didn't beat Gunther, but they

1:18:36

beat Gunther's team lost

1:18:38

and he was in there.

1:18:44

Your thoughts? Oh, I mean,

1:18:46

I don't want shit on everything.

1:18:51

But I hate brand of comedy. It's a unique

1:18:54

brand of the WWE brand of

1:18:56

comedy

1:18:58

that is especially

1:18:59

terrible involvement in all this. I'm

1:19:01

glad he was able to appear on

1:19:03

raw for this.

1:19:06

You know, I remember

1:19:07

thinking a few months ago when DX had their

1:19:09

reunion. I hope this isn't the last time

1:19:11

we see DX.

1:19:14

While getting assignments four

1:19:16

months ago where something had a reunion,

1:19:18

now they're back with another reunion,

1:19:21

I mean,

1:19:21

The show started strong. Whatever you wanna say about the long trial segment, people were into it. It was captivating. It

1:19:24

was good.

1:19:28

The match ended

1:19:29

up being good, but I started getting to a point

1:19:30

around here where I was like, I don't know how much longer I'm gonna go. And

1:19:32

I fell for the record, I fell asleep at ten o'clock

1:19:35

and I had to watch the rest

1:19:38

the next day. Well, we

1:19:40

were right there at about ten o'clock by

1:19:42

this point. What would have hurt if

1:19:44

DX had come out and done all

1:19:47

of their and promos and people wanna hear. And

1:19:49

then Imperium come out 278 Gunther got up

1:19:51

in Triple H's face and say you're an

1:19:53

executive around here now. So I'll talk to

1:19:55

you. I don't care

1:19:58

about the rest of your clown show friends. Sean Michaels, if you look sideways

1:20:00

at me, and I know you probably will,

1:20:02

no matter how you look at me, look

1:20:07

sideways at me. I will chop you

1:20:09

into insensibility in x pack. I'll break

1:20:11

your neck and

1:20:14

whatever and Have a face to face

1:20:16

with triple h about how he

1:20:18

needs to be? Gunther, that is?

1:20:21

The top guy in this fucking company and triple

1:20:23

h better get with the program and start minusing

1:20:26

them and let the Cornette

1:20:30

guys, Seth Rollins and The Street profits,

1:20:32

if it has to be,

1:20:34

come out and save a

1:20:37

potential bad situation with A guy's had heart

1:20:39

problems and another is several other people that

1:20:42

have injuries and are retired in their

1:20:44

fifties from Gunther in

1:20:47

there and his stiges. And then

1:20:49

they have them. Instead, the senior citizens have made these

1:20:51

other guys look like nerdy dipshits and then

1:20:53

bring in the stooges to do

1:20:55

their light work. 278 don't

1:21:00

know. There was more

1:21:02

poker. That's when Deby

1:21:04

Assi who never spoke nor

1:21:06

was barely even seen except in this instance. Lost a bunch of money

1:21:11

to Baron Corbin and then

1:21:13

our arrest took the money. And Ron Simmons said,

1:21:16

damn. And we were

1:21:18

almost two

1:21:19

hours into the show.

1:21:21

He took all the money. The IRS came

1:21:23

and took all the money and gave him back one bill. It's just bad comedy.

1:21:27

This is This is Vince comedy.

1:21:30

Is

1:21:30

this Vince comedy? Wouldn't there have been

1:21:33

any kind of

1:21:36

young babyface that Sean Michaels

1:21:38

may have come out and given a heartfelt coaching speech

1:21:40

to about how, you know, I

1:21:42

I was my own worst enemy.

1:21:47

But I straightened up and people counted me down, but

1:21:49

but I came back and you came to

1:21:51

or something like that, or

1:21:53

is there not You know, the

1:21:55

the who did who did

1:21:57

the last upset on the

1:21:59

program? Is there not a way

1:22:01

that x power

1:22:02

you go? Not Oh, well, yeah. Is there a way of and that

1:22:04

Xbox could not have congratulated

1:22:06

a kid like ricochet for

1:22:09

that big win that

1:22:11

he got, what is Take your legends

1:22:13

and let them do their stuff, but apply them

1:22:15

in a positive way to

1:22:18

the to the younger

1:22:20

talent. To where they interact like

1:22:22

equals. And the the only guy they didn't well,

1:22:24

I won't say the other Hogan

1:22:27

didn't get any on him. Rick

1:22:30

Flaire made his entrance came out in Philadelphia in that suit.

1:22:32

My God. Rick

1:22:35

had such great style

1:22:39

and fashion sense, back in

1:22:41

the eighties, Michael's from Kansas City.

1:22:43

No. He was like a

1:22:46

psychedelic cow. I tell you I tell you

1:22:48

what, it did look like

1:22:50

some type of LSD

1:22:55

written cattle experiment. When he said, you know, I'm styling it.

1:22:57

As soon as he said styling, I said, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Look

1:22:59

at you. Look

1:23:02

at the

1:23:02

state of you. Look at the state of you, but but he came

1:23:05

out dressed as he was and

1:23:07

made a nice little speech

1:23:09

to Philadelphia and

1:23:12

introduced Charlotte And at least they

1:23:14

let him be serious and not be embarrassed or silly or have to do and

1:23:16

Charlotte comes out and Rick went

1:23:18

back and Charlotte went to the ring.

1:23:22

Called her the greatest women's wrestler of all time. There

1:23:25

you can make a case for that,

1:23:27

and I would think that she

1:23:29

would have to be his

1:23:31

favorite anyway. So I don't know

1:23:33

that anybody's gonna sue him for misrepresentation on

1:23:36

a wrestling

1:23:39

program. But then Charlotte cuts the

1:23:41

promo and then Bianca comes

1:23:44

out. And she's happy and

1:23:46

skipping and twirling her hair as

1:23:48

usual. And as they

1:23:50

got in the ring, one is obviously the raw champion. The other one's the smackdown champion.

1:23:55

And it just As you stand

1:23:57

there looking at it, they're both wearing the identical same championship belt, just

1:24:00

one is blue

1:24:02

and one is red. And

1:24:05

that's just so fucking stupid. No wonder nobody

1:24:07

gets over as a champion anymore.

1:24:10

There's so many of.

1:24:12

And they

1:24:13

look the same. Every belt looks exactly the same.

1:24:15

It just different color for the different brands. It

1:24:20

is They violate Vince,

1:24:22

before he left, was violating

1:24:24

the rules that he

1:24:26

made fifteen, twenty years ago.

1:24:29

That when he was in his right

1:24:31

mind that she shouldn't violate. And then Bianca says she runs

1:24:33

raw even though Charlotte may be the champion to smackdown and then

1:24:36

here comes Drew

1:24:39

Ella DeVille, and she knocks both of them. And Bambi

1:24:41

Bianca says, well, if you

1:24:43

want to, then you get in the ring

1:24:45

here with me and let's set a list or whatever. And as

1:24:47

soon as in it, they go to

1:24:50

the break. I tell entrances and

1:24:52

promos. And if anybody actually starts

1:24:54

to fucking fight, they go to

1:24:56

commercial. So they come back

1:24:58

with the match that apparently nobody cares about, and Bianca

1:25:04

one and then started cutting

1:25:06

promo again. And that's when Alexis Bliss popped

1:25:09

up on the

1:25:12

screen. Alexis. What I say? Alexis

1:25:14

Bliss. Well, do you know that sounds better? You think Alexis sounds better than Alexa?

1:25:20

Alexis Bliss. Alexa Bliss.

1:25:22

Alexis Bliss pops up, and she does the spooky

1:25:28

promo. And she doesn't need boy

1:25:30

howdy. She's gonna blob she's gonna ripper fucking limb from limb.

1:25:35

So now, again, as

1:25:37

we've noted on the

1:25:39

last program now, we

1:25:41

gotta put up with

1:25:43

this little fucking eighty pound blonde pixie being

1:25:45

a supernatural creature also along with Bray Wyatt and the rest of

1:25:48

the game. I

1:25:51

would like to see if she's a puppet or

1:25:53

not. I wonder if somebody could stick their hand

1:25:55

up her rear

1:25:57

end, motivate her to move

1:25:59

around.

1:25:59

Maybe uncle Howdy. I don't

1:26:02

know. Maybe maybe Captain

1:26:03

Howdy. Anyway, they did another

1:26:06

Cody pad. Again, they go from

1:26:09

The ridiculous to the sublime, as soon as you say

1:26:11

this stupid shit that goes on

1:26:13

as phony fucking program

1:26:15

and everybody's Jack and

1:26:19

around, and then they'll throw in the Cody package.

1:26:21

And it it belongs

1:26:24

on ABC's wide world

1:26:26

of SPORTS OR NBC

1:26:28

NETWORK PROGRAMME OR FOX

1:26:30

SPORTS OR IT'S SERIOUS AND

1:26:32

IT'S DONE WELL. And it

1:26:34

could be a UFC package. And this

1:26:37

is the way you get a

1:26:39

fucking star over. But they for

1:26:41

whatever reason, they think that

1:26:44

not only Can you only be serious about

1:26:46

one or two things at a time, but that

1:26:49

they're convinced, I

1:26:52

guess, that all the bad comedy

1:26:54

and silly phoniness on the rest of the program doesn't damage

1:26:56

the few times that

1:26:59

they

1:26:59

get it right with

1:27:01

something like this. But if

1:27:03

they had a program that they in any way

1:27:05

took seriously

1:27:06

on the rest of it,

1:27:09

These packages that already stand out would get even more over

1:27:11

because there wouldn't be people going

1:27:16

well. I almost believe in that,

1:27:18

but the rest of this chart on the cover of the video game and doing the conversion of the video

1:27:20

game is in

1:27:23

twenty twenty three. John Cena,

1:27:25

the guy that only wrestled once for the WWE in twenty

1:27:28

twenty 278.

1:27:32

It's a rib. That

1:27:34

can't be Roman Reigns.

1:27:36

It can't even

1:27:39

be Brachales nor it's I

1:27:41

love John Cena. He's a big star, but that's the problem.

1:27:43

He's a big star, but not for them anymore. But

1:27:47

that's the only person they put on to cover the video game

1:27:50

that anybody knows who the fuck they

1:27:52

are. Because every

1:27:55

all the other ones are playing

1:27:57

stooges for the senior citizens and they over

1:27:59

the hill gang. When

1:28:01

I put myself

1:28:04

on TV, In my fifties,

1:28:06

it was an an as an announcer to make matches and then

1:28:12

runs scared of the

1:28:14

wrestlers if they were mad at matches I made.

1:28:20

So John Cena is the cover

1:28:22

boy and the commercial spokesperson for the brand new

1:28:27

video game featuring all the top talent. This is what

1:28:29

I'm led to believe by what

1:28:31

I just saw. I

1:28:34

take a

1:28:35

sip of Sprite and move

1:28:37

on. Okay.

1:28:38

So the mews was in

1:28:41

the ring, And and he rants for about twenty seconds

1:28:43

about where's my raw thirty moment? Why not

1:28:45

part of this show?

1:28:48

And then Kevin

1:28:50

Owens comes in to ring from behind and

1:28:52

just boots him in the gut

1:28:54

and stunners him. Boom and down he

1:28:57

goes and then Owens cuts a promo.

1:28:59

On Roman reigns on the royal rumble and

1:29:01

he got fired up and finished

1:29:03

that promo and just then

1:29:05

missed and staggered up. So he turned around, booted mezzanine

1:29:07

gun 278 stuttered him again.

1:29:10

At least it's they're

1:29:14

both current guys, And

1:29:16

then it was time

1:29:18

for our main event. Brian?

1:29:22

For the United States heavyweight championship,

1:29:26

new disqualification, Austin

1:29:29

Theory versus Bobby

1:29:31

Lachely. This has been advertised all

1:29:33

throughout the program. This is there's

1:29:36

been problems with theory and lastly

1:29:38

in the past when they've interacted

1:29:40

with each

1:29:41

other. Hey. Earlier in the show, they had

1:29:43

MVP and lastly backstage and MVP is trying to talk to him and lastly won't really hear him. think that was the

1:29:45

firmware it came up.

1:29:47

And MVP goes, Tonight,

1:29:50

you will message no disqualification. You know

1:29:52

what that

1:29:53

means? And I almost thought he was

1:29:55

gonna say yes. Because

1:29:58

he set it up to say what you can't. You know

1:30:01

what that means? Jesus. And actually,

1:30:03

and I must have missed that. I

1:30:05

must have turned my head and missed that

1:30:07

pretape earlier in the program. But the

1:30:10

so the main event

1:30:12

for

1:30:13

the United States title

1:30:15

They finally get them headed to the ring

1:30:17

with about twenty minutes left on the

1:30:19

278, but by the time they

1:30:21

do the in ring introductions and

1:30:24

etcetera etcetera, They ring the

1:30:26

bell for the main event, the title match on his three hour

1:30:28

program. There's

1:30:32

a little over ten minutes

1:30:34

left on the air. They basically,

1:30:39

a laseous bumps Theory

1:30:41

a time. It bumps him to the

1:30:43

floor and rattles him off the barrier and the ring

1:30:46

post, and they go to the break in under two

1:30:48

minutes. 278 they're

1:30:51

in break for fucking three minutes, so

1:30:53

they do thirty minute long promo segments,

1:30:55

but the main event

1:30:58

championship match. As soon as it starts,

1:31:00

boom. They come back from the

1:31:02

break and theory was used in

1:31:04

a chair, whackin' a shit out

1:31:06

of last right in front of the referee, they're not five

1:31:09

minutes in, and we didn't see

1:31:11

half of that. And then he

1:31:13

goes goes out and pulls out

1:31:15

a table and lides a

1:31:18

table under out from under the ring and puts it in a ring, and I'm rapidly losing

1:31:20

interest because now they actually

1:31:22

go to another commercial break after

1:31:27

about less than three minutes of match. So there's

1:31:29

this title match is going

1:31:32

on in

1:31:34

commercial. And they're under

1:31:36

five minutes in. They've already got chairs and

1:31:38

tables pulled out and in the middle

1:31:40

of the fucking thing. And then they

1:31:42

come back with three minutes on

1:31:45

the air. And,

1:31:47

lastly, superplex's theory off

1:31:50

the top rope, apparently, this is his comeback. There's two tables in the ring and

1:31:52

they do a short

1:31:54

little thirty second bit where

1:31:59

they tease going through putting the other

1:32:01

one through them. Like, that's such a big

1:32:03

goddamn deal you'd never

1:32:06

seen before. And then finally,

1:32:08

Ashley just picks theory up and dumps

1:32:10

him through a table and suddenly

1:32:13

music hits. And here comes

1:32:16

Brooklistener. It Brooklistener

1:32:21

comes out Again, I wanna stress to you, the main

1:32:23

event, US title, 278 main

1:32:26

event guys, Theory, and

1:32:28

LASHLEY, on

1:32:31

to roster full time gas currently. So far

1:32:33

their title match, they've

1:32:36

seen about five

1:32:38

or six minutes of it on

1:32:40

television, most of it's been

1:32:43

in commercial break. And then

1:32:45

Broadges comes out and fucking

1:32:47

stops slashly and picks him up and

1:32:49

gives him an f five, and then grabs theory

1:32:51

and picks him up and gives him

1:32:53

an f five on top of

1:32:56

Ashley. And then

1:32:58

my DVR froze because

1:33:00

it was the top of the

1:33:02

eleven o'clock hour, but I assume Since they were

1:33:04

already down there, he went ahead and pissed in their mouths.

1:33:07

Is that what happened next? I actually don't know

1:33:10

because they went off the air

1:33:11

quick. My DVR didn't squeeze. I got a little bit

1:33:12

at the end, but they were off the air pretty quickly. I

1:33:14

think they had run out of time. So

1:33:19

They had three hours, but they don't have enough time

1:33:22

for the main event or the angle

1:33:27

afterwards and basically another part time

1:33:29

real star from the

1:33:31

previous generation or

1:33:34

two comes in and in

1:33:37

the space of twenty seconds beats

1:33:39

up both guys in

1:33:42

the US title match and leaves them stacked up on top

1:33:44

of each other. And

1:33:46

they're the young full time guys

1:33:48

and theory the guy of the

1:33:50

future. I understand again, Brocklessner will sell

1:33:53

you tickets. He's biggest box office

1:33:55

traction in the business. May

1:33:58

depending on whether seen is even in

1:34:01

the business or

1:34:04

not. But So

1:34:08

my closing thought

1:34:10

of raw thirty was What

1:34:16

the fuck? If if they ever called me to come

1:34:18

back, I'm gonna ask who I get to beat up.

1:34:20

278

1:34:22

last time we saw

1:34:25

Brock was the Saudi

1:34:27

Arabia show where he

1:34:29

beat

1:34:31

lastly. Right? I think so. So obviously,

1:34:33

he had he's got a

1:34:35

gated. He's got a grudge. He's

1:34:37

fast enough. He didn't beat him

1:34:39

in 278 abates. Beat him

1:34:42

up and beat up theory too.

1:34:44

It's that wasn't even

1:34:46

shooting an angle for a match.

1:34:50

As much as just here, Brock's gonna

1:34:53

come out and and do something shocking

1:34:55

that people will remember. Who

1:34:57

gives a fuck if it hurts

1:34:59

our Current talent or Cornette. so

1:35:03

those are my

1:35:06

thoughts and comments. I if

1:35:09

they were attempting to

1:35:11

sell the WWE of Nineteen

1:35:15

ninety nine, they did a great job. But if they're attempting

1:35:18

to sell the WWE of twenty twenty

1:35:20

three, They

1:35:23

just buried

1:35:23

almost everybody's coming back next week. No, you're

1:35:26

wrong. They were trying

1:35:26

to sell the WWE of nineteen ninety

1:35:29

nine. They fell to that too.

1:35:30

Well, that's true because and nobody

1:35:33

looks the same. It's why I'm

1:35:35

not doing this shit anymore. Nobody

1:35:38

looks the same. You actually look better. Everyone else is going the other way. Well, and

1:35:39

I'm gonna keep it that way.

1:35:42

I'm gonna be right over here looking

1:35:44

better.

1:35:47

Apparently, everybody that doesn't get out

1:35:49

of the wrestling business looks like shit.

1:35:51

Just think about if you

1:35:54

would say yes. To one of these offers that come to one of these things.

1:35:56

And you could be sitting there in the

1:35:58

background with holding a tennis racket for

1:36:01

no good reason while people are playing poker.

1:36:03

What? I I don't understand the the

1:36:06

I mean, in all

1:36:08

honesty and in

1:36:10

all sincerity. If if I

1:36:13

just needed the payoff, I guess

1:36:15

I'd go to do whatever, 278

1:36:19

as a professional and as

1:36:21

a veteran and as anybody

1:36:23

any of these guys who

1:36:25

had legitimate names in

1:36:28

the business. I would say if

1:36:30

you call me to come

1:36:32

and do your television

1:36:34

program, what would you like me to do? Can

1:36:36

I be a meaningful part of it?

1:36:39

Can I help further one

1:36:42

of your issues or programs, or can

1:36:44

I help get one

1:36:45

of your talents over, or get

1:36:48

interest in a specific thing

1:36:50

your guard, whatever? No.

1:36:51

Well, no. The three hour show, you have thirty seconds. Here's

1:36:53

the line we wrote for you. But that's what

1:36:56

I'm saying. I

1:36:58

would say if if I can't, why do I wanna just come

1:37:00

there and sit in a and play

1:37:02

poker or fly

1:37:02

somewhere, sit around a building all day

1:37:05

to visit, old friends, that might

1:37:07

not be bad, but to it

1:37:10

demeans the the person you were

1:37:15

at one point, when you're just being seen as background

1:37:17

father and or, you know,

1:37:20

a person sitting around a

1:37:22

table without even speaking, call me

1:37:24

when when I can do something for

1:37:26

you and if I can't, then you don't need to call because but I I don't

1:37:31

understand why People just go and just I'll

1:37:33

be sitting and catering all day. Well, it's

1:37:35

an easy pay off. Fuck.

1:37:37

It's been easier 278 stay

1:37:40

fucking home. Makes you look

1:37:42

bad. That's my thought. Well,

1:37:47

that was WWE. Raw

1:37:48

thirty or Raw x, x, and perhaps

1:37:50

you're looking for a transition ladies

1:37:55

and gentlemen. Perhaps. Hi and hello. You wanna

1:37:57

just cut right through the crap and get to a transition

1:37:59

to a wonderful sponsor

1:38:02

of this year show.

1:38:04

What would you do, Jim?

1:38:06

I'll tell you what I would do.

1:38:08

I would I would

1:38:10

look forward to the next time

1:38:14

That magic day of the

1:38:16

month when my box of awesome

1:38:18

shows up from bespoke post. That's

1:38:20

what I would do. I would look

1:38:22

forward to that because we talk about these

1:38:24

fine people and we have argued at length and

1:38:26

vehemently about how to pronounce their name I

1:38:31

say bespoke. You say bespoke.

1:38:33

But nevertheless, you say

1:38:36

tomato. I say tomato. We all say,

1:38:38

you need to open up your box of

1:38:40

awesome. Because the people

1:38:42

at bespoke post hand curate the items that

1:38:45

go in these

1:38:47

boxes of awesomeness, every

1:38:50

item from a small business that

1:38:53

you might not have ever heard

1:38:55

of otherwise, but they're

1:38:57

supporting those small businesses and there

1:38:59

are opportunities to fulfill the American dream

1:39:01

and and grow and expand

1:39:03

and become wealthy and

1:39:06

become multinational conglomerates and

1:39:08

then cheat on their taxes

1:39:10

and not pay their proper share and then hide all their money

1:39:13

in offshore

1:39:16

accounts and in various Caribbean islands or

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Let's use the knives again. Let's

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cut through the crap. Let's get right to

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the big stories

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of the day. Jim, apparently,

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the bellows are upset with

1:42:43

WWE over Raw XXX. Well, yeah, because they

1:42:45

weren't on it. They didn't get to beat anybody

1:42:47

up. Were they supposed to

1:42:50

beat somebody up? Or were they were they upset because they were gonna

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be the only legends not to get to beat

1:42:54

anybody

1:42:54

278? Well, originally, I think they were announced

1:42:57

for it, weren't they not? I think as far

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as much. Were they not?

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Weren't they not? Were they

1:43:04

not. They've in

1:43:06

our wings, LIB, in

1:43:08

our ducks. They went to New York

1:43:10

and apparently took in an afternoon Broadway

1:43:13

play rather than going to raw because they were in a snip

1:43:15

about how they were to be utilized

1:43:17

is the story that's

1:43:20

going around. Is

1:43:22

this is this valid? That's what I'm trying to figure out. We have a a few articles I'm trying to get

1:43:24

through here to

1:43:27

figure out 278 Crocs

1:43:29

of the story. The wrestling news has not

1:43:31

covered Bella drama of this nobody on

1:43:36

the Bella eat this week? No. We're looking

1:43:38

for someone. If someone out there is obsessed with the bellies, let us know and we'll point you in another

1:43:41

direction.

1:43:43

But here is Apparently, audio of the bell

1:43:46

is on Instagram talking

1:43:47

about raw thirty last night as it took place

1:43:49

or right after it. At some

1:43:51

point the same night, of

1:43:54

raw XXX. Another good memory on raw. How did they showcase anything from the women's

1:43:59

evolution? But also the way

1:44:01

we did our master The Sasha Banksen. They're like,

1:44:03

we can. And the fellas. There's a bunch of us in places. Shailies

1:44:07

is too over. And

1:44:10

we can't say her name. There's a

1:44:12

couple other girls and Rea. There's a

1:44:14

bunch of us that don't wanna show.

1:44:17

That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. When you do what they

1:44:19

don't wanna do, it's not gonna show you. That's what

1:44:21

you do. You know, another

1:44:24

good mess. Alright.

1:44:26

Well, there Oh my god.

1:44:28

And can could they

1:44:30

take time out from sniffing

1:44:33

the bouquet of their own

1:44:35

farts to be any more full of

1:44:37

themselves. To play

1:44:38

devil's advocate

1:44:39

here, they

1:44:41

are correct in

1:44:43

the sense that When you think of

1:44:45

the montage they had on raw, the great highlights throughout the years of

1:44:48

raw. You

1:44:48

know, we said before there was

1:44:49

no Sasha Banks when you really think about it. No

1:44:52

Sasha Banks

1:44:54

No A.

1:44:55

J. Lee.

1:44:56

No page. No bellows.

1:44:58

Pretty

1:45:00

much everyone out. Hold

1:45:02

on the the first three are understandable because

1:45:04

there's been issue. There continues

1:45:06

to be an issue with

1:45:10

Sasha Banks. I know they're they're friends,

1:45:12

but she's the one that

1:45:14

walked out. They haven't settled

1:45:16

this apparently, so they ain't

1:45:19

gonna fucking promote her. That's not

1:45:21

hard to figure out. But again, even if

1:45:23

it's the message, the messenger is

1:45:26

somewhat all the

1:45:28

great matches

1:45:30

and moments of the bellas.

1:45:33

Is that what they

1:45:35

were looking for or just for the women

1:45:37

in general? They make it have done more with

1:45:39

the women, but Would the fellas have

1:45:42

still been a part of all the great moments of female wrestling?

1:45:45

The fellas not

1:45:48

Trish Stratus? Not

1:45:50

whoever the fuck, but the bellas. Yeah. Johnny Ace wasn't in the video either.

1:45:57

He's in there. He's in her home videos from the Christmas celebration at the house. I wonder if was

1:46:00

frosty this year. He was

1:46:02

sitting in the corner drinking Frosty,

1:46:07

the dynamic dude, got

1:46:10

a chilly reception that

1:46:14

day. But anyway, but yeah, so it's

1:46:16

the messengers, not the the message. They could

1:46:18

have showed more of the women, but

1:46:20

would the Bella still have been a

1:46:22

part of anything great? were fellas of was great? Well,

1:46:24

again, it's subjective.

1:46:26

I was never a really

1:46:28

big fan of the fellas.

1:46:30

I appreciated that they had fans

1:46:33

that they were a big part

1:46:35

of the show and that they dated very powerful people

1:46:37

on the show, but I was never a big fellas fan. What

1:46:39

what was the line of

1:46:43

talent is not sexually transmitted. They could that

1:46:45

was an a j lead clip.

1:46:47

Right? They could've

1:46:51

fucking aired that. Now they didn't hear that. I'm trying

1:46:53

to see if there's anything else to this story. I'm trying

1:46:56

to read through this article.

1:46:58

This article doesn't say anything. This

1:47:00

article. Just

1:47:02

that people were upset that the women weren't represented more on the show, the women's history on

1:47:04

raw wasn't shown

1:47:07

more in the thirtieth

1:47:10

anniversary retrospective video. Well, goddamn. Okay. But it's an hour and a half at minimum on every

1:47:11

other week's program. So at

1:47:14

least we got a break this

1:47:16

week.

1:47:19

Wanna ask you about another story coming out of WWE.

1:47:21

A lot of listeners have sent

1:47:23

in various questions and the story

1:47:25

is kinda morphed over the

1:47:27

last few

1:47:28

days. Originally, I believe

1:47:30

it was a article from Rifle Select, that Steve Austin

1:47:33

versus Roman

1:47:36

Reigns was pitched as a match

1:47:38

for WrestleMania. Oh. That Austin's camp was approached with the possibility

1:47:43

of it happening.

1:47:44

And there was a lot of money

1:47:46

apparently offered the stone called Steve Austin.

1:47:48

Dave meltzer has

1:47:51

reported, I believe, but

1:47:53

the match pitched and I

1:47:56

can't believe this would

1:47:57

happen. Was Steve Austin

1:47:59

versus Brocklessner? What do

1:48:00

you think about the idea they're pitching Steve Austin

1:48:03

matches or ideas for WrestleMania and do you think? We'll see

1:48:05

Steve

1:48:05

Austin after

1:48:06

his big return last year.

1:48:09

Well, it lends credence to the idea that rock has

1:48:11

told him, I just can't make it

1:48:14

this year, guys, because

1:48:17

you know, obviously, Steve was just there. And again, I'm not gonna

1:48:19

say anything bad about Steve Austin.

1:48:24

The biggest attraction in

1:48:26

the history of the But he's

1:48:29

again, he looked great

1:48:31

last year physically for

1:48:34

a guy his age and

1:48:36

what is he? He's in his

1:48:39

fifties. I can't remember. But To

1:48:41

be Steve Austin against broadcaster or Roman

1:48:44

Reigns, I don't

1:48:47

know if that's Something he

1:48:50

wants to do or can do at this point, and

1:48:53

what are

1:48:56

your finishes? Besides

1:48:58

other I mean, obviously, Roman Reigns would

1:49:00

have to beat

1:49:03

Steve Austin with Brock It

1:49:06

may be a little more up in the

1:49:08

air, but at the same time, I don't see

1:49:10

Austin with a bad neck taken in

1:49:13

f five. And I don't know that you would want

1:49:15

to, especially with what they just did with Brock. You would want to fucking

1:49:17

kick Brock in the gut

1:49:19

and stunner And

1:49:23

boom, 123, see you later,

1:49:25

because Austin, that may very well be

1:49:27

the last match he'd

1:49:29

ever have. So

1:49:33

that's awful. These

1:49:37

dream matches can be a

1:49:40

nightmare past writing the names

1:49:42

down if you have Steve

1:49:44

Austin. If Vince McMahon says,

1:49:46

give him whatever he wants, we need him this year. And you have Steve Austin. Who would

1:49:47

you book

1:49:51

him against? What makes

1:49:53

sense? Well, depending

1:49:54

on who they wanted him to

1:50:00

interact with, Can you see Steve

1:50:02

Austin and Sami Zane against Roman Reigns and

1:50:08

Solo. Get's appointed. I I don't know

1:50:10

if Solo's ready for that spot,

1:50:12

but may Well, the

1:50:15

the pro is the other two whoosos. It's a tag team. Maybe they could

1:50:17

play on one of the whoosos because the

1:50:19

other one falls out

1:50:22

with Sammy, whatever the case You know, again,

1:50:24

the problem is and all

1:50:26

those guys really would be

1:50:28

part time because Romans now

1:50:31

is part time. But in

1:50:33

no universe, could you have Steve Austin go over Roman

1:50:35

reigns at this point in time? And

1:50:41

Honestly and truthfully, I don't see

1:50:43

any reason to have Steve

1:50:45

Austin wrestle at this point

1:50:47

in his life unless

1:50:51

he's gonna win. Because then it would

1:50:53

just make the people feel bad. It's

1:50:55

not like Roman

1:50:57

would get heat For beating a beloved

1:51:00

legend, it's just people would feel bad about

1:51:02

the whole thing because Austin has moved on

1:51:05

for so long. With the who

1:51:08

what else are the other match they

1:51:10

were to Austin and Brock? Yeah. That no.

1:51:12

Jeez. There's no way because Brock can't be

1:51:14

Brock if he can't throw people around and

1:51:17

there's no way that Austin could

1:51:19

or should, won't even take the chance

1:51:21

on that. With his neck. So it

1:51:23

would yes. When when fans

1:51:28

hear Steve Austin

1:51:30

versus Brocklessner, they instantly visualize both

1:51:34

guys in their prime

1:51:38

and all the spots they could then, the

1:51:40

things they could do and blah

1:51:42

blah blah, that's the way Marx

1:51:44

look at it. And, unfortunately, as

1:51:46

we've established, in a lot of cases these days, the marks are in the writing

1:51:52

room. They don't understand

1:51:54

what it takes to actually put that together and

1:51:57

how each guy

1:52:00

would have to be to

1:52:02

be themselves and give the people what they expect and see

1:52:05

in a blah

1:52:08

blah blah So I am

1:52:10

Austin is not an answer to

1:52:12

their questions 278 their

1:52:15

problem as far as having

1:52:18

a main event singles match, I don't

1:52:20

think this year. Jim, another question I

1:52:22

want to ask you about something

1:52:25

that recently happened in wrestling?

1:52:26

This past weekend at the Yokohama Arena

1:52:29

in Japan, Oh, mama

1:52:32

Yokohama. And an event

1:52:34

titled Great Mudah Final Buy

1:52:36

Buy

1:52:36

What?

1:52:36

The great Buddha in what was built as his final

1:52:38

in ring appearance as the great Buddha.

1:52:43

Teamed with sting and Darby Allen to defeat

1:52:45

Marafucci, Hakushi, and akira.

1:52:48

We've

1:52:48

had a few emails

1:52:50

sent in about this. What are your

1:52:52

thoughts on the legacy of the great

1:52:54

Muuta, and any thoughts on the great Muuta in general? What the but they called

1:52:57

it Muuta's final

1:53:00

buy buy Title Great

1:53:02

Moon of Final Buy Buy. Anyway, No,

1:53:08

Muuto. My God, he was huge at that period

1:53:10

of time in WCW that, you

1:53:13

know, he was only here

1:53:15

for a year, but people

1:53:17

remember him fondly, and it's like he was, you know, like a lot of the other guys where he would

1:53:19

just hear, you know, for

1:53:24

a long stretch, but it was a

1:53:26

short period of time, but he made a ton of difference. And that was

1:53:28

one of the the

1:53:30

one bright spot maybe of

1:53:33

new talent and that type of thing that Turner Broadcasting was

1:53:36

able to

1:53:40

bring the people when they first

1:53:42

took over Crockett's company. And I loved watching his matches and

1:53:45

even a nice

1:53:47

guy back in those days, I have

1:53:50

not obviously seen him in person in thirty years since he, you know, he went back

1:53:55

to Japan. But just for the moon

1:53:57

salt, the moon a lot of

1:53:59

people can't imagine The

1:54:03

Moon Salt being is over and

1:54:05

being is talked about. As it

1:54:07

was when Muuto was the

1:54:09

only one doing

1:54:10

it, He also did it the best. You know, the fact that

1:54:12

we've seen all these guys over the last thirty something

1:54:14

years do the moon salt and his was

1:54:17

still the most impactful, destroyed his knees,

1:54:19

but looked incredible. And I made mention of

1:54:21

the you know, and then Vader, the

1:54:23

four hundred pound man, and

1:54:26

Terry Funk, the over fifty man

1:54:28

then the women and then the mid

1:54:30

jits. And then everybody proved they could do a moonsault and adding were shit. But

1:54:35

Muuto just his speed in his

1:54:37

athleticism. And we've mentioned this before, the people started taking to him even

1:54:39

though he was a

1:54:42

member of Gary Hart's. You

1:54:45

know, stable. And of

1:54:47

course, Gary had the history

1:54:51

with the great kabuki. So there was the tie

1:54:53

in with his mook his mooki.

1:54:56

His mooki is

1:54:59

Muuta Kabuki's son or is

1:55:01

Muki Kabuki's son or whatever

1:55:03

the case. But

1:55:06

they were eventually And I thought this would

1:55:08

be a good idea. They were gonna turn

1:55:10

mood to babyface because the kids loved him.

1:55:12

There were still kids watching

1:55:15

wrestling at that time. And he was

1:55:17

so exciting. And he was different. But, of course, at that point, Gary,

1:55:19

I think, had convinced well, it killed your

1:55:21

brother if they turn your heel or turn

1:55:23

your baby face, he

1:55:26

didn't wanna lose Muuto. But, you

1:55:28

know, I think he got homesick, whatever

1:55:31

the fuck. They beat him Four

1:55:33

times in one night or three times in one night at that round robin

1:55:35

tournament at Starcade eighty nine

1:55:38

and Future shock. Future

1:55:42

shock. He was shocked. Alright. Because when they came up with that,

1:55:44

and I heard was

1:55:46

pushing that a lot because

1:55:50

he thought it was sports oriented,

1:55:52

which was fun, but as you know,

1:55:54

how are we gonna figure these

1:55:56

matches with four

1:55:59

singles and Somebody's gonna have to lose

1:56:01

a lot in one night and it was all of our top guys.

1:56:03

And you should have seen trying to get

1:56:05

the job out of

1:56:07

the road warriors. And so they they beat Muuto three

1:56:09

times because he was the only one that couldn't fucking argue

1:56:12

in English. And,

1:56:15

you know, he got disenchanted

1:56:17

and left shortly thereafter, and

1:56:19

there you go. But

1:56:23

but no. I I

1:56:25

did I did like Muuto as a

1:56:27

talent. Obviously, he had a stellar

1:56:29

and hall of fame career

1:56:31

in Japan was one of most integral parts of

1:56:36

of you know, Japanese wrestling for twenty years

1:56:38

after that or whatever and still obviously that they just had

1:56:40

his retirement to

1:56:43

this day, but you know, completely

1:56:47

different talent as

1:56:52

Muuto as he was as Muuto. And then he got

1:56:54

the Muuto gimmick over there too where he could switch and become

1:56:56

Muuto instead of

1:56:59

Muuto and

1:57:00

Well, Jim on that topic, we can

1:57:02

keep talking about this. I just wanna say also on this show once again titled Great Muuto Final Buy Buy Buy.

1:57:07

The Yokohama Arena

1:57:08

He challenged New Japan's Naito to

1:57:10

be his opponent for the last match

1:57:15

of Kiji Muuto at the Tokyo Dome

1:57:17

on February twenty first. So that's the main event for the Tokyo Dome February.

1:57:20

Wait

1:57:22

a minute. Their their coming back and running the Tokyo again six

1:57:24

weeks after they just ran the Tokyo

1:57:26

Dome? They're running let me

1:57:29

just see what I

1:57:31

could find here. Yeah. It is a

1:57:33

joint new Japan. Actually, talent from New Japan, Noah, Dragon Gate, all

1:57:36

Japan,

1:57:39

Tokyo, Yoshi Pro, And DDT will all

1:57:41

be a part of this show. So it's a joint venture,

1:57:44

and

1:57:47

it is Just trying to see if there's a name for. The other one was

1:57:49

Great Muuto final buy buy. There's no

1:57:51

official name. This this one is Great Muuto.

1:57:53

Hello. Again, I was only lying. Oh, this

1:57:56

is pro

1:57:57

wrestling last love. A

1:57:59

pro wrestling last love. Kiji Muuto,

1:58:00

grand final pro

1:58:03

wrestling last love.

1:58:06

Well, I hope he

1:58:09

finds his long lost, last love,

1:58:11

and whatever else he's looking for

1:58:13

in the way of happiness.

1:58:15

But yes, so So he could have two

1:58:17

retirements because he was two individual personalities. You know what? He

1:58:20

came back

1:58:21

several times after

1:58:24

nineteen ninety he would come back for I

1:58:26

got pay per view and then he

1:58:27

would disappear again. Even I get into Nitro, he would show up. It was

1:58:27

never the same. Like,

1:58:30

there was just a moment

1:58:32

there. From eighty nine

1:58:34

into early ninety when the fans started turning a babyface and then he was he was

1:58:40

one of the most promising, one of

1:58:42

the most special, one of the most intriguing rest was in the entire business, and

1:58:45

I never felt that

1:58:47

spark ever

1:58:48

again. Whenever he would

1:58:50

appear on WCW TV for a pay per view or whatever it may be, it was never there again me.

1:58:52

Well, it's because

1:58:55

it you'd couldn't

1:58:57

do that just coming in for a shot and then leaving

1:58:59

again. It was the and the first time around, it was the shock of seeing

1:59:02

him and how good he was and

1:59:04

how fast

1:59:06

he was and how he could move and etcetera, and

1:59:08

that slowed down over the years

1:59:10

too. But, you know, the the

1:59:13

first time that he was the

1:59:16

only guy really that that TBS

1:59:18

had brought in or that WCW

1:59:21

had brought in under Turner, that

1:59:23

hadn't been there before that people really started

1:59:25

talking about and was

1:59:27

really getting over.

1:59:29

Everybody else was You know, left over from

1:59:31

Crockett. They were over from that, but TBS

1:59:34

wouldn't get any new names over at that

1:59:36

time. Other

1:59:38

than drawing ability, Completely, other than drawing

1:59:40

ability, he was w c

1:59:42

w's nineteen eighty two

1:59:46

Jimmy Snooker.

1:59:46

Yes. He had

1:59:47

the moonsault. People went crazy for it, the rest of the

1:59:50

match. He couldn't take his eyes off the things he

1:59:52

did.

1:59:53

And then

1:59:54

they started cheering for him and we never got the baby faced term. And, of course,

1:59:56

with the bay the lack

1:59:57

of drawing ability is not his fault because

2:00:00

it was turner

2:00:03

broadcasting, and they couldn't throw one to throw.

2:00:05

You have to glue and drag them through

2:00:08

Fort Knox,

2:00:10

as I've said

2:00:11

before. So He he wasn't the lone ranger. Nobody else was drawn

2:00:13

either. Jim, I have a question here

2:00:15

sent on

2:00:16

Twitter using a hashtag,

2:00:19

horny drive through from

2:00:21

Greer, with all of the

2:00:22

travel wrestlers had to do within the territories,

2:00:24

I'm curious on

2:00:27

your thoughts about why

2:00:29

RVs weren't more widely used to save on hotel and even food

2:00:32

expenses. Goddamn

2:00:36

it. No.

2:00:39

Just no.

2:00:42

I mean, you know,

2:00:44

Doctor Destiny Williams got a heck of

2:00:46

a nice customized panel van one time.

2:00:52

And some of the guys

2:00:54

had vans, but an RV, no. Not only

2:00:58

for the can you imagine the gas expense? Because

2:01:01

the gas expense would

2:01:03

have blown the expense for a

2:01:05

car out of the water. And even

2:01:07

if you got four or

2:01:10

five or six guys together,

2:01:12

then, honestly, you've you're

2:01:14

asking for trouble because you've got

2:01:18

Four, five, or six wrestlers

2:01:20

going on trips of hundreds

2:01:22

of miles with a 278

2:01:25

tight schedule. You ever try to run one

2:01:27

of those RVs a basis for

2:01:31

a couple hours? You got

2:01:34

four or five wrestlers in a fucking moving hotel

2:01:36

room. I

2:01:40

can't imagine what the after the match, you

2:01:42

know, shit would have been like. Talking about the fabulous ones had a panel

2:01:48

van. And they're they're you

2:01:50

they're driving in whatever state they're in a giant

2:01:55

you know, deadly machine weighing

2:01:57

tens of thousands of

2:02:00

pounds, you can't

2:02:02

part those things hardly anywhere. You can't go through

2:02:04

a drive through. Can you imagine pulling up

2:02:06

to a goddamn arena when the in

2:02:08

those days when the fans wanted to cut the

2:02:10

tires on the cars? And there's an RV that pulls up

2:02:12

with all the hottest heels in the

2:02:15

territory. You can't miss it. No.

2:02:20

And then a lot of

2:02:22

times we'd be flying somewhere and

2:02:24

then renting a car and driving a

2:02:26

loop of three or four miles. You know,

2:02:29

you or three or four mile, three

2:02:31

or four days. You'd have to start that RV wherever it was. You'd

2:02:34

have to take it to wherever you were gonna go next and there could

2:02:37

be no flying involved in

2:02:39

the middle. No, it

2:02:41

sounds like a nice

2:02:44

idea and I guess Cody getting

2:02:46

a bus and broadcaster getting a bus and some of these other people

2:02:48

that have done it in modern

2:02:50

times has romanticized it, but that's

2:02:56

because a, they're making

2:02:58

millions of dollars b,

2:03:00

they've got people that can put that

2:03:02

bus where it needs to be picked up and

2:03:04

they and the talent gets on it, and they

2:03:06

ride it around until they're finished, and then they get off and go home and they

2:03:08

take the bus

2:03:11

some fucking wear. Or what is 278?

2:03:13

It's a whole goddamn procedure. So and they

2:03:15

only wrestle once

2:03:18

or twice a week? Or with the the modern WWE

2:03:20

schedule before the pandemic

2:03:22

was what? The raw

2:03:26

guys would on Friday, Saturday,

2:03:28

Sunday do roll on Monday, and then be off. And

2:03:30

so at the most, they're wrestling four days a

2:03:34

week, and they're routed to where they're

2:03:36

somewhat in range

2:03:39

of the next town. It

2:03:42

it no. The

2:03:45

RV in the territory

2:03:47

days for logistically, financially, criminally,

2:03:49

none of it would have worked. Alright. Well,

2:03:51

let's get our

2:03:53

next question

2:03:56

here this one was sent to Drive,

2:03:58

sir. Can you imagine the police reports being taken out of what would have happened on that?

2:04:00

I think just the

2:04:02

simplicity of

2:04:03

handling the mileage.

2:04:06

Is the the qualifier? Yeah.

2:04:08

Who could have an RV in mid south?

2:04:10

How could it even be? We can.

2:04:14

There were there

2:04:16

were occasions. I mean, two thousand

2:04:18

miles was an easy week and

2:04:20

wrestling every

2:04:21

night, but there were occasions we

2:04:23

were in a car nearly four thousand miles in

2:04:25

a seven day period while appearing in a different

2:04:27

city every single

2:04:31

day. So that required some you

2:04:34

had to apply yourself

2:04:36

determinately on the road. You

2:04:38

couldn't be poking along in the

2:04:40

camper.

2:04:40

Jim, our next question sent via email the

2:04:42

corny drifter at gmail dot com from Kieran

2:04:47

in Southampton, England.

2:04:48

I am a merchant mariner, a cat or

2:04:50

a sailor. And I've been a big wrestling

2:04:53

fan since I

2:04:55

was a kid.

2:04:56

I've noticed over the years

2:04:58

that there's a lot of nautical terminology in wrestling. Why

2:05:04

is that? Where did it

2:05:05

start? Such examples would include when the commentators say that a

2:05:07

match is underway. Or

2:05:11

when someone who was in what wait wait. I

2:05:14

think you've been in the merchant

2:05:16

marine a little too long

2:05:18

there, pal, or what someone Or

2:05:22

when someone who

2:05:25

is

2:05:26

in their comfort zone, would

2:05:29

be referred to as their wheelhouse. Do people in

2:05:31

wrestling know what

2:05:33

these terms mean? Thank

2:05:35

you very much. But

2:05:39

he ends like luck. Thank

2:05:41

you very much. Thank you

2:05:43

very much. I think under

2:05:46

way is kind of, isn't it? Doesn't that belong to

2:05:48

the world? Doesn't everybody in any walk

2:05:50

of life say when something's going on?

2:05:53

Will it's already underway? Or it's you know,

2:05:55

happening now. I mean, it's not that big of

2:05:57

a stretch there. It's not really

2:05:59

a wrestling term. And

2:06:04

the

2:06:04

other one that he mentioned, the

2:06:06

wheelhouse, I that's again

2:06:09

something that's kind of a broad expression at

2:06:11

least here in this country where if if someone is is

2:06:13

either not familiar with something and say, well, that's not in

2:06:16

your wheelhouse or

2:06:19

if they are. Well, that's right in your wheelhouse, but that's

2:06:21

kind of a broad

2:06:23

expression for any

2:06:26

number of pursuits 278 genres

2:06:28

or careers or

2:06:31

manners of employment. Right? So

2:06:34

basically, are we just taking the piss out of this question entirely?

2:06:36

Well, the term underway, I

2:06:38

have to think anything. Any sports

2:06:43

event, any event? I mean, I can't imagine the concert

2:06:45

was already underway when

2:06:46

we got there. Hey, wrestling's using that

2:06:48

nautical term. We should start using it. I

2:06:50

don't

2:06:50

think that's the way it went. So

2:06:53

I don't know. I thought he was I thought he was gonna

2:06:55

say like, slabberknocker is a nautical term or

2:06:58

something. I don't have

2:07:00

I don't I don't want this

2:07:03

to be an anchor around our neck, this topic, but I can't

2:07:08

fathom Any reason why perhaps we

2:07:10

ought to just throw the whole subject overboard.

2:07:15

Oh, boy. I mean, alright. You do

2:07:17

that? You have fucking cracked

2:07:20

Stacy up one

2:07:22

time. His way years ago hadn't seen each

2:07:24

other long, and we pulled up to

2:07:26

a long John Silver's to get something

2:07:29

to 278, and I pulled up to

2:07:31

the fucking take order? And I said, 278,

2:07:33

boy. And she just cracked up.

2:07:35

It's

2:07:36

me and the midnight

2:07:38

used to do that a lot. When

2:07:40

we did Yamapit fighting, the original main event was gonna

2:07:42

be tank abbot versus Tatarov, a big rematch from the early days 278

2:07:47

the UFC. Before everything got screwed up because tank did a job

2:07:49

the Kimball slice and the athletic commission

2:07:51

wouldn't let him fight again. There

2:07:55

was a sponsor, and I forget who it

2:07:57

was. It's not as simple. I don't think as it's

2:07:59

a sponsor named a

2:08:00

278. But Bob Meyer

2:08:02

was had some sponsor that was willing to pay tank Abbott for the period time from

2:08:04

whatever early

2:08:05

in the year until the

2:08:07

pay per view.

2:08:11

For any interview he does, any press he does for the event.

2:08:13

He begins every sentence with a

2:08:15

hoey. A hoey. And

2:08:17

it didn't happen,

2:08:20

but I I really wish it

2:08:22

would have. It would have been

2:08:24

a disaster. I wish it would. Hey, do you

2:08:26

know

2:08:26

where a pirate keeps his buccaneers? Where's that?

2:08:30

Under his buck and

2:08:31

act. Alright. Well, let's

2:08:33

get another question here before we

2:08:35

offend the pirate audience.

2:08:37

Jim, this was sent to

2:08:39

drive thru at gmail dot

2:08:41

com from John. I've always been

2:08:43

under the assumption Perhaps incorrectly

2:08:45

that examples of cheap heat are insulting the crowd and

2:08:48

wearing the jersey

2:08:50

of a rival sports

2:08:52

team. If I'm correct, can you

2:08:54

then explain how MJF is considered the greatest heal right now,

2:08:56

given that the majority of

2:08:58

a schtick is cheap heat? Well,

2:09:04

I think the topic's more

2:09:06

about cheap heat than I've. Yes.

2:09:09

Well, the topic is here's the thing

2:09:11

a lot of people are of the opinion that there's no good cheap heat. And

2:09:17

a lot of people are of the

2:09:19

opinion, like I am, that it depends on the the context,

2:09:23

and the delivery.

2:09:24

And the the the concept

2:09:27

of cheap heat is

2:09:32

that The premier practitioners of pro

2:09:34

wrestling back in the pioneer days thought that

2:09:39

Your action should be what

2:09:41

gets your heat rather than

2:09:43

you purposely insulting

2:09:47

someone or you purposely, you know, verbally

2:09:49

attacking something or the town

2:09:51

or whatever, or you

2:09:54

purposely even doing something

2:09:56

not herbal, but

2:09:58

visual, just on purpose to make people mad, that's cheap heat.

2:10:00

And the thought

2:10:03

was the real masters could

2:10:07

get heat by just the things they did

2:10:09

in the match being themselves

2:10:11

and trying to win the match or

2:10:13

try to do their thing and the

2:10:15

people would boo that instead of, you

2:10:17

know, them having to go to the links of insulting the town

2:10:19

or the audience or

2:10:23

whatever. But at the same time, to

2:10:25

be honest with you, that

2:10:28

prevailing attitude a

2:10:30

lot of times was left

2:10:32

over from the pre TV era.

2:10:34

And and there were, you know, it it was not a thing

2:10:36

where wrestlers did long

2:10:38

promos and saliliquis on live

2:10:42

how shows to where they're insulting

2:10:44

people. With with

2:10:47

television and modern times, you've

2:10:49

got guys like an MJF of this generation or me when I was

2:10:51

doing it or Lalor was a smart ass

2:10:56

or pipers sometimes or

2:10:58

whoever was a smart ass heel. There was an annoying arrogant

2:11:04

egotistical, wise, cracking, smart

2:11:06

mouth, those people get

2:11:11

heat if you believe they are real. If you're

2:11:13

just coming out there and

2:11:16

saying, yeah,

2:11:19

the fucking Dallas Cowboys, they suck. Right? Well,

2:11:21

that's cheap heat. But

2:11:24

if if that

2:11:26

is something that you would believeably save

2:11:28

while believeably being yourself in every other

2:11:30

thing, then it's kinda it works

2:11:34

still. It works both ways. I didn't come out when I went to Texas.

2:11:36

I didn't come out first thing and say

2:11:38

the cowboy suck. I said, ah, we're

2:11:40

in Will Rogers,

2:11:43

Colosseum, the home of Will Rogers,

2:11:45

who said I've never met a man I didn't like. Well, you never met me

2:11:47

Will Rogers, and I've got as about as much

2:11:50

in common with some Calboy

2:11:52

boot wear and crap kicking Texan is

2:11:54

a marching with three heads. And

2:11:57

I got to

2:12:00

point across So it it

2:12:02

just depends. Cheap heat. I think, you know, there there has to be

2:12:04

a line. You can't

2:12:07

just do it nonstop. Zubisco

2:12:11

was the master of the stall

2:12:13

as they used to say and a lot of

2:12:15

that with cheap heat, making people

2:12:17

mad, because you won't fight. Eventually, Lalor was like the master of that. Like, an

2:12:19

MB showing that he's Yeah. Oh, yeah. He would just walk around

2:12:21

and ring someone with that microphone. I never even get

2:12:23

in a ring. Yeah.

2:12:27

And and the people got their money's worth and

2:12:29

they, you know, never notice the

2:12:31

difference. So some people can pull

2:12:33

it off in some can't and sometimes it's okay

2:12:36

and sometimes it's too far and I will

2:12:38

say one thing and then hold your thought,

2:12:41

I had mentioned several weeks ago, when they

2:12:43

had teased the concept of making

2:12:46

MJF a sympathetic figure

2:12:48

that the first couple weeks afterwards,

2:12:50

he was on the people too much.

2:12:53

Because he was trying to turn him

2:12:55

back. And he's geared back on that somewhat. got such great material, and he's

2:12:57

got such great lines, and it's always

2:13:00

great to you

2:13:03

know, adapt to people every once in a

2:13:05

while. If you keep the main gist

2:13:07

of your business on what

2:13:09

you're trying to sell a

2:13:12

ticket to, But MJF was

2:13:14

going overboard in a couple of instances there because I think he felt like he

2:13:16

had to because

2:13:19

he had been portrayed in

2:13:21

such a babyface position that he he was

2:13:23

trying to overcompensate

2:13:27

for that. Do you think cheap heat should be used the

2:13:30

same way a big spot should be in the sense that if one

2:13:32

wrestler is going out there on

2:13:34

a show and insulting the local crowd,

2:13:37

That's it. It shouldn't be multiple people

2:13:39

going out there and saying, hey, fuck you, Pittsburgh. There should be one guy the show or

2:13:42

something. Heavy. Yes.

2:13:45

No. Because what everyone shouldn't say anything at all. Not everyone on the show should be

2:13:47

allowed to speak whatsoever because that

2:13:50

means that it it matters

2:13:53

more when somebody does a main event guy or a guy that's being used or somebody

2:13:55

with something say or something

2:13:59

further along the issue. Not

2:14:02

everybody just grab the microphone and do their little three minutes of fucking open mic night

2:14:08

bitch. And a lot of time,

2:14:10

they they they can't pull it off. They're not good enough verbally.

2:14:13

It's not

2:14:16

their wheelhouse. So, no, it should

2:14:18

be, you know, limited to one or if there's a couple people

2:14:24

on the on the card that have different

2:14:26

things to say or whatever, but it shouldn't be beaten, beaten into powder over the course of

2:14:28

the same show

2:14:31

by multiple people. Well, if you

2:14:33

happen to have some cheap heat, maybe due to some chemicals,

2:14:35

some exposure, some

2:14:40

big companies, You know what? It's right in

2:14:42

the wheelhouse of a man, I know, Jim. That's right. If you have been poisoned

2:14:44

or you have been damaged or

2:14:46

you have been terminated or you have

2:14:50

exposure if you've exposed yourself

2:14:52

in any way, shape, or form,

2:14:54

this is the man you should call.

2:15:16

And out

2:15:19

my mode show or two.

2:15:22

Those are the rest.

2:15:25

What kind of exposure, were you

2:15:27

talking about, Brian earlier? Were you

2:15:29

talking about exposing yourself,

2:15:31

exposing someone

2:15:32

else?

2:15:34

Potentially exposing the double

2:15:36

exposure. Well, for the record, if you expose yourself, don't call

2:15:38

Steven Peonu. I just wanted to clarify that because you

2:15:40

said it right before the

2:15:41

Well, if he's been exposed to

2:15:43

that you be exposed you need to call Stephen P. Yes.

2:15:46

If you've exposed yourself to this

2:15:50

deadly material as your own fault. Well, you

2:15:53

what might not know when the deadly

2:15:55

material was there and then you

2:15:57

exposed yourself to it. Then you've been exposed to

2:15:59

it.

2:15:59

That's just 278 Well, but you've exposed

2:16:02

yourself to it because you put yourself in

2:16:04

that position

2:16:06

because nobody through their own carelessness told you

2:16:08

that that material was there in the

2:16:10

vicinity. And did you expose yourself

2:16:13

to it in an

2:16:15

unknowingly? You didn't know that that material

2:16:17

was there when you pulled your pants down

2:16:19

and whacked your willy right in front of everybody. If

2:16:23

it pleased the court if it pleased the court, I wanna present

2:16:25

evidence here that there was poison

2:16:27

Ivy everywhere, shit

2:16:29

unknown. That was not the place. To whack his willy.

2:16:31

Your honor, these crooks here are innocent,

2:16:33

and I'll tell you what,

2:16:36

no, and where regardless

2:16:38

of how exposed you

2:16:40

are, or are

2:16:42

not? The point is that there's

2:16:44

nothing you have done wrong. There's bad things all around.

2:16:46

You could fall into science, could fall from the heavens.

2:16:51

And land on your head

2:16:53

and hit, boy, that's a

2:16:55

grand slam. Thanks for that, Denny's. But I'll tell you whether a scientist Those

2:17:01

people in that car were

2:17:03

seeing moons over Miami all

2:17:06

day long. I'll tell you

2:17:08

that. But regardless, It's terrible and we

2:17:10

should move on and forget that that ever happened.

2:17:17

If you'd quit laughing, but I'll tell you folks whether

2:17:19

you've been whacked with a denny

2:17:22

sign or whether you've been exposed to

2:17:24

plutonium while whacking your willy or Whether

2:17:26

you're like the innocent folks down in the state of Louisiana,

2:17:30

several of those people are indeed

2:17:33

innocent, We've been talking about this, the

2:17:35

energy company that Steven P

2:17:38

knew is representing numerous individuals

2:17:40

against is called in her

2:17:43

g. See, they just put a tea in energy and they

2:17:46

think they got people fooled. They're changing

2:17:48

their name trying to stay ahead of

2:17:50

the law. Entergy, the energy company down there is

2:17:53

a result of their

2:17:55

negligence and other breaches

2:17:57

of the public trust

2:18:00

and faith caused a system

2:18:02

failure that left southeast

2:18:05

Louisiana without power.

2:18:07

For a long time, the power outage occurred as a direct result of

2:18:13

the foreseeable failure of Entergy's distribution

2:18:15

and transmission equipment during

2:18:18

Hurricane Ida because despite

2:18:21

evidence, Evidence that has been obtained by new law office dot

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com at 8886928084

2:18:29

Despite evidence which proved the weakness and

2:18:31

perilous condition of their equipment

2:18:33

and systems, they didn't do

2:18:35

nothing about it, Entergy. Chose profits

2:18:38

over the people that they serve. Do

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you know that if they

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had made the decision to

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invest in underground transmission of

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electricity. In an

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environment like southeast Louisiana

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that could have assured

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regular consistency staying protected service to all their customers, not just the affluent neighborhoods. That's

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the way they do

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it over in Europe

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and parts of Australia, but

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instead They chose the

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bubble gum and superglue approach

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to protect billions of dollars instead of

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their customers. The customers pay the money

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In order to have electricity and

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then Entergy took the money and gave it to all

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of their big wigs instead of upgrading their equipment,

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and the hurricane, uffed and

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puffed and blew it

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all down, blew it all downtown. So

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they're gonna pay through the nose for

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this shit because of Steven Peewoo. And if you've

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got somebody that you'd like to see honking out some quarters and

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dollar bills out of their honker.

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left nostril. Just over and over, Well,

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then you call 88869280847.

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slot machines at at Las Vegas

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with the the quarters out the

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right nostril and dollar bills out to left, Nostril, just

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and not the old new

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law office. No. Let's get Let's get

2:20:30

a few more questions and wrap things up.

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You're right over there.

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Yeah, I'm good. I'm just

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blowing out another quarter.

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Here's our next question. Sent the corny drive thru at gmail dot com

2:20:44

from Noah in greater Boston.

2:20:46

Do you know Noah? I don't know this Noah. No. I've never known

2:20:51

Noah before. I've always wondered

2:20:53

how it can possibly be somewhat accurately

2:20:56

determined

2:20:57

which wrestler drew money

2:20:59

in a sold out

2:21:02

show

2:21:02

Be it house

2:21:03

network or pay per view. So

2:21:05

many people went to see Hogan

2:21:08

and flair during their hey days,

2:21:10

of course, but not necessarily towards the end and certainly not at the very end.

2:21:13

In my case, I

2:21:15

would rather see Hankey

2:21:17

talkman Russell a match

2:21:20

in person and pay to see

2:21:22

that than the ultimate

2:21:23

warrior, for example, to

2:21:24

each his When stone cold and

2:21:25

the rock and triple h and undertaker and Foley

2:21:28

and Big we're

2:21:31

all headlining but not all

2:21:33

headlining at the same time. How could it be determined

2:21:35

and who would decide based on any objective empirical

2:21:40

evidence, how to allocate who

2:21:43

drew money and who did

2:21:45

not draw as much. Thanks.

2:21:48

Seems undercelerable to me, but

2:21:50

you know more. Hope not to get an answer soon.

2:21:55

Please write back here. Hoping to get

2:21:57

the end of the question soon. Also, I might miss the podcast that

2:21:59

you addressed this song, but I will keep listening. Okay.

2:22:04

Well, you get the question. It

2:22:06

kinda trailed off at the end,

2:22:08

but we hope you hear this

2:22:10

Noah. Well, it's not as

2:22:13

easy to determine specifically who drew money in

2:22:15

wrestling as it is. You can't

2:22:21

quantify it necessarily like you

2:22:23

can, an album of the

2:22:25

rolling stones that sold this.

2:22:27

Or ticket sales for led Zeppelin.

2:22:30

They sold this because it's one act. It's one product from

2:22:32

one you

2:22:35

know, this is is this is

2:22:37

not even like football where it's a team

2:22:39

versus another team. This is a

2:22:41

bunch of individuals

2:22:44

on the wrestling

2:22:46

event. Commonly, rule of thumb

2:22:50

going back to the early days

2:22:52

of wrestling and boxing for that matter, was it the

2:22:54

main events, the one that drew the money?

2:22:59

And that

2:23:00

was without question almost always the

2:23:02

case, a hundred percent of the time

2:23:06

through the pioneer days and

2:23:08

into the television era and

2:23:10

etcetera, you know, and and you can you can basically make the argument with

2:23:16

any heavyweight boxing championship match or

2:23:19

heavyweight wrestling title match that those

2:23:21

are the biggest stars on that

2:23:23

card. They're in the main

2:23:25

event. That's the match people pay to see. Everything else fills out the

2:23:28

show. Over the

2:23:30

years in the

2:23:33

television era with

2:23:36

the territories, then still it was pretty obvious.

2:23:38

You know, when when when when

2:23:40

the old timers from the fifties,

2:23:42

the Burghan, you and the bruisers. And even the, you the they booked a

2:23:45

card, generally, again, the

2:23:48

main event was by

2:23:51

far the strongest match Sam

2:23:54

Mutchnik especially to the day he

2:23:56

retired in Saint Louis paid the

2:23:58

main event multiple times what everybody else on the card got because

2:24:02

that was what you did.

2:24:04

But then Watts and Eddie Graham

2:24:07

and later on Jerry Jerry and

2:24:10

Dundee working with Jared and Lal and

2:24:12

Hall are just like to book a

2:24:14

bunch of matches. But they started booking package shows where even up and down the card,

2:24:19

even if you've still got the

2:24:21

guys that are your you feel are your top guys in the main event or

2:24:23

the your area's championship in

2:24:29

the main event? Your card is four or

2:24:31

five matches deep. Maybe

2:24:34

six in the Superdome were a

2:24:36

big show like that with angles

2:24:38

where guys have you're accommodating a

2:24:41

rivalry of some description with

2:24:43

the tag matches or stipulation

2:24:45

match or whatever where there's an angle and a program behind

2:24:47

everything. That was what

2:24:50

they called a package show. And

2:24:52

then it became a little harder

2:24:54

to determine not only who was drawing the money, but also how

2:24:59

gas got paid, and you've heard

2:25:01

me mention that Watts would send out memos sometimes

2:25:03

after the Superdome. I read one

2:25:06

of them, on the show here a

2:25:08

while back where he said that The

2:25:10

superdome payoffs were spread over x

2:25:13

amount of people over the

2:25:16

top three matches. This time because

2:25:18

each of the three matches could be

2:25:21

construed as a main event in

2:25:23

its own right. And then it gets

2:25:25

a little and, you know, when Uncle

2:25:28

Dave does a list, which

2:25:30

he actually just did this past week

2:25:32

and the observer does it every year,

2:25:34

where he updates the list of biggest drawing

2:25:37

cards in the history of wrestling

2:25:39

year by year and then of

2:25:42

all time, which is an estimate, a scholarly estimate, a

2:25:46

learned estimate, but still just

2:25:49

an estimate, based on criteria that they've set up,

2:25:52

whether it

2:25:54

be Steve Yohhe and the,

2:25:56

you know, the claw master

2:25:58

and all the Historians that have compiled results and and kept,

2:26:02

you know, newspaper articles from

2:26:05

the past a lab and

2:26:07

it's etcetera, that have contributed to this, they well, how many

2:26:10

how many cards of

2:26:12

over ten thousand fans

2:26:15

did this guy headline in the

2:26:17

course of a year. And where

2:26:20

was the second place, guy? That's

2:26:22

why the the the all time list is somewhat the top, you're

2:26:28

pretty good. Right? It's it's

2:26:31

not fucking argument, Jim Lawndos. And the, you know, the

2:26:33

top couple, the longsens

2:26:36

and the Fizz is.

2:26:39

You can see For the longevity

2:26:41

for decades and the huge crowds.

2:26:43

When you get down a little

2:26:45

bit, I always thought that a

2:26:47

guy like Jackie Fargo got

2:26:49

shortchanged in that formula

2:26:51

because a guy in the

2:26:54

northeast territory or a guy in

2:26:57

a place like Dallas where they did

2:26:59

have the, you know, the the big building or a

2:27:01

big city like Chicago where they had the big building or a sheik

2:27:04

in Toronto. Was

2:27:07

a huge drawing card, but he

2:27:10

especially benefited from Maple Leaf Gardens being a big building because

2:27:12

you could pinpoint

2:27:14

all those people in these big

2:27:17

shows drawing ten thousand or more people, but that

2:27:19

might be once a month. Once

2:27:23

every couple, you know, weeks,

2:27:25

whereas you had a guy for year

2:27:27

runs, years at a time like Fargo, In

2:27:31

the Tennessee territory, drawn five thousand

2:27:33

people a week in Chattanooga, five thousand people a

2:27:35

week in Birmingham, more

2:27:38

than that a week

2:27:40

in Memphis or whatever.

2:27:42

And those smaller towns, would

2:27:45

add up to if there was record of,

2:27:47

but if they were paid as much attention to,

2:27:49

you see where I'm going with this, they would add up to

2:27:51

probably comparable in some cases.

2:27:53

As the

2:27:54

bigger higher profile guys. But let me ask

2:27:56

you a question though because I think it's more

2:27:58

in tune with the spirit of the email

2:28:00

The show where the Fargo's return,

2:28:03

who did Zulu wrestle? Is that

2:28:05

Zulu versus the Stomper? The

2:28:07

Mongolian

2:28:07

Stomper. Yes. 278 argue over who

2:28:10

drew that house.

2:28:12

Exactly. There is always

2:28:14

the the points you can make that especially in the territories when

2:28:19

something else got hot or

2:28:21

some other talent got hot,

2:28:23

but you were still putting your heavyweight title or your, you know,

2:28:25

recognized top guy in the main

2:28:28

event even though the semifinal may

2:28:30

have been the one they were interested

2:28:33

and that's that case is the

2:28:35

first time in ten years that more

2:28:37

than ten years that all three of

2:28:40

the fabulous Fargo's had been in the

2:28:42

building together in the same place,

2:28:44

same time in Memphis, was on the semifinal,

2:28:46

and Zulu against the Mongolian stomper for the southern

2:28:49

title was on the main event.

2:28:52

Zulu got credit for three weeks at

2:28:54

a row of sellouts at the mid South Carolina

2:28:57

see them because the fargos

2:28:59

were underneath all that time,

2:29:02

but that's what they were coming to see.

2:29:04

So it can

2:29:06

be skewed. It's not an

2:29:08

exact measurement or an exact calculation just because

2:29:10

the gas in the main event

2:29:14

especially in some of these loaded shows,

2:29:17

the people may have been coming to

2:29:19

see the other guy. Over a period of time, It

2:29:22

kind of evens out where

2:29:25

the the promoters would usually be

2:29:27

the ones to recognize

2:29:29

so and so drew money

2:29:31

because they were the ones that

2:29:33

saw the bottom line and they were the

2:29:35

ones that saw the finances

2:29:38

on every show, and they were the

2:29:40

ones that were able to to determine. When

2:29:42

so and so is on the card for me, I do better,

2:29:46

than I do with anybody else

2:29:48

or almost anybody else as a

2:29:50

sandwich Nick said, what didn't he say his

2:29:53

his two of his three

2:29:55

biggest drawing cards were Lonsen

2:29:57

and Buddy Rogers was the

2:29:59

other one flare. I'm not sure

2:30:02

if we I'm trying to think

2:30:04

it was it was two two were vintage and

2:30:06

one was more modern, but the point is

2:30:10

that Sam Mutchnik was in in

2:30:13

promotion for almost forty years in one of

2:30:15

the major markets in the country. And

2:30:18

he could pinpoint the three

2:30:20

guys that drew more money for

2:30:22

him than anybody else over that long haul.

2:30:25

Because they had been been there

2:30:28

and done it time and time

2:30:30

again. And then you'd have guys who Andre

2:30:33

didn't draw more

2:30:36

money in each

2:30:38

individual territory than the main

2:30:42

event guys in the territories, but

2:30:45

he drew more per capita per show

2:30:47

that he was on. Because

2:30:49

since he was always traveling around,

2:30:52

you didn't get a chance to

2:30:54

seem that often, he would pop a

2:30:56

house in whatever territory

2:30:58

he was in because they

2:31:00

came to sea. But the area

2:31:02

champion that was there for, you know,

2:31:06

six months straight drew more money

2:31:08

overall just not that one big house because he

2:31:10

was programmed and regularly and on top and over whatever.

2:31:14

That's why Jerry Jerry

2:31:16

had always said that

2:31:18

per capita per event, the biggest drawing rest slurred

2:31:23

that he ever booked was rough house Fargo

2:31:25

because he'd only bring him in once every couple or three years, but fuck it

2:31:27

would sell out if he did. And

2:31:31

you would find that, you

2:31:33

know, guys that were over in a territory would oftentimes

2:31:36

out draw The

2:31:40

world heavyweight champion if they were in

2:31:42

a hot angle or something, but that didn't mean that the world champion wasn't drawing more money than them in the entire

2:31:44

country.

2:31:48

See what I'm saying. But, like, when you look at

2:31:51

something like a WrestleMania today or, I

2:31:54

guess, smoking on wrestling nine o'legends, technically,

2:31:56

the main event was the six montage match.

2:31:58

Right. Should any of those wrestlers be given

2:32:01

credit for drawing that house?

2:32:02

And the

2:32:03

same thing applies to a WrestleMania,

2:32:05

unless it's something just over the top, like, you know, Steve Austin's

2:32:07

gonna be teaming

2:32:10

with zombie buddy Rogers and people

2:32:12

care. Like, unless it's something crazy,

2:32:14

Yeah. No. It was there's the night of Legends was a concept show.

2:32:17

And there were so

2:32:19

many big names in

2:32:22

it and so many varieties of

2:32:24

things people were interested

2:32:25

in, that it would be hard to

2:32:28

give even the main event guys

2:32:29

credit, but they were

2:32:31

the most integral to the success of

2:32:34

the wrestling event, which is

2:32:36

why they were in

2:32:38

the last match. But with with

2:32:40

WrestleMania, with anything today, you can't

2:32:42

really tell because they go to

2:32:44

see. It's like, you know, which I've

2:32:47

said this before, which Globe

2:32:49

Trotter team are we getting? Are we

2:32:51

getting metal arc? Are we getting curly

2:32:53

knee? Are we getting gee saws? Be who

2:32:55

are we getting? But we're still going

2:32:57

to see the Globe Trotters. We just

2:32:59

hope that the our favorites are there.

2:33:01

They're going to see WrestleMania. They're going to see

2:33:04

the spec cool. They're

2:33:06

going to see the WWE

2:33:08

live. The people on the show with

2:33:10

few exceptions, it doesn't really matter. They're they

2:33:15

What we've talked about, if

2:33:17

they announce SINA that'll move

2:33:19

tickets, they announce Brock move tickets. Every

2:33:22

once in a while, they they'll

2:33:24

announce something else that'll move some tickets.

2:33:27

But otherwise, the people that decide when they first hear about the show were gonna go Are

2:33:32

the people that end up going? They don't

2:33:34

even advertise you watch the commercials. For

2:33:36

the WWE, when they do commercials in

2:33:38

a local market, c stars like

2:33:40

this guy, that guy and

2:33:43

the other guy. They don't ever match matches anymore. No. And

2:33:47

I mean, that used to

2:33:49

be my God. Most promoters I know if

2:33:52

Christine Jared saw

2:33:54

that the opening match was

2:33:56

gonna be changed because somebody's car broke down or

2:33:59

whatever, she would have the ring announcer jazz

2:34:03

and be contrite about it because

2:34:05

every single match on the card had been advertised not only on television but in

2:34:08

the newspaper. And

2:34:12

if we didn't give them

2:34:14

one, then that's false advertising. Now and and

2:34:18

By the same token, if he hadn't

2:34:20

given him any matches, back then, nobody would have showed

2:34:22

up. They would have said, what the fuck? 278

2:34:26

just tell us go see wrestling. We

2:34:28

can see that every fucking week. We wanna know

2:34:30

who's wrestling. That determines whether we're gonna go or not unless we're just the

2:34:35

devoted faithful ago every week.

2:34:37

And that's what it is so not

2:34:39

advertising a match then

2:34:42

nobody's coming to

2:34:44

you know, nobody's coming to see a match. And

2:34:46

they advertise very few names and then sometimes they change the

2:34:48

names. So

2:34:52

really right now, the only

2:34:54

wrestler in the

2:34:55

WWE, the only wrestlers that sell any tickets

2:34:59

that wouldn't be sold just because

2:35:01

WWE's coming to town, Arsina and Brock, and maybe to a

2:35:03

lesser extent, Roman. Is

2:35:07

there anybody else can you

2:35:09

think of anybody?

2:35:10

Right now, no. Can you think of anybody that AEW puts

2:35:15

on their shows that in

2:35:17

other words, is there anybody that serves the senior position in AEW where we've had these

2:35:20

tickets on sale.

2:35:25

They they've moved, but all they're gonna move,

2:35:27

but we're gonna add this name

2:35:29

and suddenly boom more

2:35:31

tickets. Is is anybody doing that? Think

2:35:33

it depends on the market with AW. You know, to

2:35:35

use punk as an example,

2:35:37

I think punk returning into Chicago or New

2:35:40

York is a lot different than Freslow.

2:35:42

Well, punk ain't returned anywhere anymore

2:35:44

because they ran him off. We

2:35:46

didn't wanna say I'm right. Museums

2:35:49

and exam. Now But right now, is there anybody

2:35:51

that stands out of the AEW pack? And

2:35:53

I'm not even downgrading

2:35:55

any of their talent.

2:35:58

I'm just saying, is there anybody

2:36:00

that they can that

2:36:02

they have available to them,

2:36:04

that they can add to

2:36:06

a card that's already on sale

2:36:08

and immediately bump up a

2:36:10

bunch of tickets like Sena

2:36:12

did for that last

2:36:14

smackdown or whatever. Is there a I don't think so. I mean, they probably have results that internally

2:36:16

they know, but we don't

2:36:18

know if it MJFA

2:36:21

moxley or any of these

2:36:24

guys, Jericho, if they actually individually bump up

2:36:26

any of these numbers. Well, you know, part

2:36:28

of the reason is because they don't actually

2:36:30

add these people afterwards. They you just

2:36:32

respect, you're gonna see them

2:36:34

all. And then, some of them don't show

2:36:36

up and you're like, oh, shit, so and so wouldn't there.

2:36:38

Jim, on the topic of AEW, and I probably should've used this

2:36:42

a setup for Steven Peonou.

2:36:43

A lot of listeners have sent this

2:36:46

image. I don't know if it's from a dynamite taping or froth, something else. Yeah. I'll read it to

2:36:48

you. 278

2:36:52

fan it's on the screen now.

2:36:54

Right? It's

2:36:55

on their big screen.

2:36:57

It's

2:36:57

on their big screen. AEW fan

2:37:00

code of conduct. Caution, exclamation

2:37:02

point. If you have a

2:37:04

seat on

2:37:05

the floor, you

2:37:06

are at risk of being

2:37:09

struck by persons objects, barricades,

2:37:11

and other items. Please

2:37:14

be aware of the

2:37:16

action as you are

2:37:19

watching and move out of the way if someone or something is coming your way. We

2:37:21

put the burden

2:37:24

on you. By

2:37:26

staying in this area, Hone

2:37:28

your reflexes. Rain. If you're

2:37:31

going to a live AEW

2:37:33

show train for at least six

2:37:35

weeks with a good coach

2:37:37

that in dodgeball that can teach you

2:37:39

how to get out of the way,

2:37:41

shit. Go ahead. By

2:37:42

staying in this area, you assume all risks of injury to yourself

2:37:46

and to your

2:37:48

property. And that is No.

2:37:50

You don't. No. You don't. No. You do not.

2:37:56

Is that code of Yeah. I'm talk is that

2:37:58

even a code of conduct? No. That's not a code

2:38:01

of

2:38:02

conduct. That's a disclaimer of we think

2:38:04

that this will prevent you from suing us

2:38:06

If something happens, you go to

2:38:08

an NBA finals game

2:38:11

at the United Center

2:38:13

in Chicago. See the

2:38:16

Bulls. Right? And you've got tickets

2:38:18

right down court side.

2:38:21

And right before

2:38:23

the game starts, They tell you,

2:38:25

well, now it's up. It's

2:38:27

your responsibility. Even though you're

2:38:30

sitting in a seat, in the area reserved in this arena for Where

2:38:35

you are a ticket purchasing patron

2:38:37

we have sold you We have taken your money and provided you that seat and that

2:38:40

to sit. But even

2:38:42

though we're supposed to

2:38:45

play the game on

2:38:48

the court, If the ball

2:38:50

comes your way or the players come your

2:38:52

way, it's your responsibility to get the fuck out

2:38:54

of the way or else wise, if you get

2:38:56

hurt, It's not our fault.

2:38:58

Do you think that will hold

2:39:00

up in court when the bulls run over some

2:39:03

grandmothers sitting in second row court side

2:39:06

and beat her in the head with the

2:39:09

basketball and she sees triple for the rest of her

2:39:10

life. This isn't even that specific. If someone behind you throws a bottle at your head, It's

2:39:16

the same thing. Yeah. He he

2:39:18

said at Rick's side anything could

2:39:21

happen. This is a sporting

2:39:23

arena we're and and we

2:39:25

are a licensed company that has sold you a seat to

2:39:27

sit in a specific place and watch our

2:39:31

performance, but just in case

2:39:34

our performers can't keep themselves in their allotted area or throw something at you that

2:39:36

might

2:39:40

Put your eye out or break your face.

2:39:43

It's your responsibility to get the

2:39:45

fuck out of the way. That ain't

2:39:47

standing up. That is not standing

2:39:49

up. That's just buffering and

2:39:52

bluffing a bunch of people

2:39:54

in the building, into thinking

2:39:56

well, shit. I guess we can't sue them now

2:39:58

because they put that on the screen. Bullshit.

2:40:02

I've been in enough lawsuits. And

2:40:04

not the good side

2:40:06

of them If you

2:40:09

or anything that you call

2:40:11

have in your hands or

2:40:13

are in control of, if you

2:40:16

cause that thing to go out in

2:40:18

the spectator area or you go

2:40:20

out in the spectator area, and

2:40:22

hurt somebody, it's you fault. And you

2:40:24

gonna go to well, you ain't

2:40:26

gonna go to jail. You're gonna go

2:40:28

to the poor house because they're gonna

2:40:31

fucking find against That's This performance area.

2:40:33

The Twain is

2:40:36

not supposed to

2:40:39

meet and they If the judge does

2:40:42

not fucking take oh, will we warn

2:40:44

them to get out of the way if we

2:40:46

came at him with bricks? They don't take that.

2:40:50

Alright. So

2:40:51

that's the AW

2:40:54

fan code of

2:40:56

conduct. Thought it was

2:40:58

gonna be something like and

2:41:00

don't say mean things about

2:41:03

our wrestlers. Jim,

2:41:03

our last question,

2:41:05

sent to sent

2:41:08

on Twitter. He's in

2:41:11

a hashtag twenty twenty.

2:41:13

Our last question sent via Twitter

2:41:15

using a hashtag pony drive through by several

2:41:18

listeners. They want to get your take on

2:41:20

this. An interesting

2:41:22

exchange here, Dave meltzer

2:41:23

and someone I would know. I don't

2:41:25

know how many other people know. David, the

2:41:28

piledriver, Schwartz, who

2:41:30

used to be on a Delphi University radio

2:41:32

in the nineties hit a wrestling show. I'm actually

2:41:34

now you're ahead of me here on on this fella.

2:41:38

Well, he tweeted out, I guess

2:41:40

him and Dave were talking about

2:41:42

something. In my opinion, even if Vern had Hogan become

2:41:44

champ,

2:41:46

The AWA would have still

2:41:48

eventually folded

2:41:49

because Vern's still booked like it was the nineteen

2:41:51

sixties. And Dave Meltser replied, If

2:41:55

he had Hogan, champion

2:41:58

or not, WWF's expansion fails. One hundred percent,

2:42:03

People today don't realize what

2:42:05

a difference maker he

2:42:07

was, Vern have survived with Hogan easily.

2:42:11

What do you think of

2:42:13

the idea that Hogan was that big

2:42:15

a difference maker and that All

2:42:18

things being

2:42:19

equal, nothing changes with the booking or

2:42:21

anything else, and there are no merchandise issues that Vern could

2:42:23

have survived if he had just

2:42:25

If if Vernon Hogan, Vince wouldn't have been

2:42:28

able to expand everywhere that he did expand and

2:42:30

he certainly wouldn't have doubled the BTAWA.

2:42:33

Hogan meant all kinds of Hogan

2:42:35

meant the world to the expansion. Right?

2:42:37

But it would have still gone on

2:42:39

because you can't

2:42:42

tell me especially in light of modern

2:42:44

day happenings that when Vince McMahon gets an idea for something he

2:42:46

wants to do just because the first person he wants to do it

2:42:48

with Might

2:42:51

not be available. He oh, oh,

2:42:54

well, shit. Guess I'm gonna scrap the whole thing, pal? No. He knew what he wanted to do, and then Hogan

2:42:56

was perfect,

2:43:01

but as we've mentioned, you know, there

2:43:03

could have been other people, or he

2:43:05

could have gone with savage, or he

2:43:07

could have gone with fucking

2:43:09

well, wouldn't have been savage at that point, but Dusty is one that everyone

2:43:11

points. Well, you know, and

2:43:13

and and Vince said that he would have gone with

2:43:15

Dusty if he hadn't got Hoga. But he wouldn't whoever

2:43:18

had come along even if it was a year or two later is what I'm saying. Savage wasn't there

2:43:20

right then, but he came

2:43:22

along the next year. He

2:43:24

was wanting to do

2:43:26

that and he would have found someone to

2:43:28

enable him to do it.

2:43:30

It would have taken longer.

2:43:33

It might not have

2:43:35

been his massively success

2:43:36

full. But it but

2:43:38

no. That doesn't mean that that

2:43:40

Vern especially because yeah. Vern

2:43:42

was red hot in the first

2:43:45

half of the eighties, but that wasn't

2:43:47

just due to Hogan. That was due to

2:43:49

a lot of that talent just having all the

2:43:51

TV and and riding

2:43:54

rough shot over everything. Once

2:43:57

there was competition and once that his

2:43:59

talent was getting hired away because that If

2:44:03

Vince didn't get Ho Kogan that

2:44:05

didn't make Vern a better payoff

2:44:07

man, so Vince was gonna get some Audi.

2:44:10

And by the way, eighty four for the

2:44:12

AWA still stayed pretty hot with the road

2:44:14

warriors. Yeah. Because he had the road warriors there, but

2:44:17

that he couldn't keep them

2:44:19

because Crockett could pay him

2:44:21

more. So the point is

2:44:23

it wasn't like that Verne was

2:44:25

still gonna be in business. The

2:44:27

last man standing all this time later,

2:44:29

if Hogan hadn't left, it would it

2:44:31

would have happened The

2:44:34

same way, just possibly not

2:44:36

as successfully for Vince

2:44:38

and possibly not as quickly,

2:44:40

And and there's a there's a

2:44:42

chance that maybe Crockett could have outlasted

2:44:45

him or got the the lead, but

2:44:47

I don't think anybody's ever floated

2:44:50

the idea that Vern would have been

2:44:52

the one to last or win the

2:44:54

whole thing or make it or whatever Greg

2:44:56

has. Well, besides gray.

2:44:58

What do you think of Dave's

2:45:00

point? It's interesting too, that people today,

2:45:02

especially a younger fan, wouldn't really under

2:45:05

and how special Hogan was, his

2:45:07

place in popular

2:45:08

culture, in eighty

2:45:09

three going into eighty four 278 of

2:45:12

course, Everything explodes in eighty

2:45:14

four and eighty five. Well, yeah.

2:45:16

Well, I well, that's duh.

2:45:18

Because the the fans who weren't around

2:45:21

them to experience that

2:45:23

have no frame

2:45:26

of

2:45:26

reference. They think today's wrestling and

2:45:29

and wrestlers are popular. Because they see

2:45:31

it on TV and because they know

2:45:33

a bunch of other people that like

2:45:35

these wrestlers, they don't understand and

2:45:37

they think that when I say it

2:45:39

or when anybody else say that, I guess,

2:45:41

better or their old timers or whatever. But,

2:45:44

no, the The

2:45:46

wrestlers of today, good,

2:45:48

better, indifferent, ones we like,

2:45:50

and ones we don't like, are

2:45:54

still nowhere near as well

2:45:56

known as popular or as

2:45:58

over as wrestlers of thirty and forty years ago, and so you can't

2:46:04

understand exactly how, you know, over

2:46:06

a guy like Hogan was when

2:46:08

he was the most over of

2:46:10

the bunch of them. But it

2:46:12

it it and

2:46:14

and, you know, Hogan got the big recognition nationally with Vince's expansion But

2:46:21

before that, there were still multiple pro

2:46:24

wrestlers that

2:46:26

if you asked in major

2:46:28

American markets, You know who's your

2:46:31

favorite pro athlete? Wrestlers

2:46:33

would get mentioned. Dusty'd get

2:46:36

mentioned in Florida or Georgia. Bruno get mentioned

2:46:38

in New York. Lalor get mentioned in Memphis.

2:46:41

JYD in New Orleans,

2:46:43

JYD in Louisiana, Danny

2:46:45

Hodge in Oklahoma fucking blasts in

2:46:48

California at one

2:46:50

point or Stevens in Northern

2:46:52

California. They were they were always in the conversation.

2:46:54

Now that's not the case. So nobody

2:46:59

in wrestling today is as

2:47:01

over or as notorious as

2:47:03

they say as Hogan was

2:47:05

then or as a variety

2:47:07

of the top guys were

2:47:09

then. The audience is smaller. The TV

2:47:11

is smaller. Nobody's

2:47:14

on local broadcast television,

2:47:16

so you don't have

2:47:18

You know, you you used to have 278

2:47:22

a variety of markets in

2:47:25

the US and Canada The

2:47:27

local wrestler would be one of the most well known professional sports figures

2:47:29

in that town because of

2:47:31

their longevity and because they

2:47:33

were from there and had

2:47:35

been on low television in

2:47:38

that town for years. Now

2:47:40

there's no local TV.

2:47:42

So nobody's a fucking local

2:47:44

Celebrity in any town of any

2:47:47

size, maybe the last ones were

2:47:49

hard the hearts in

2:47:51

Calgary. But so, yeah, so it is easy for people now

2:47:54

not to understand

2:47:58

how much more popular overall,

2:48:00

more known, more recognized

2:48:03

that the top wrestlers

2:48:05

were then than they

2:48:08

are now. Because they weren't around them,

2:48:10

they didn't experience it. So they can't

2:48:12

figure it

2:48:12

out. I hope everyone figured out everything you were gonna figure out

2:48:14

this week because the drive through is closed.

2:48:18

So close than fact, we'll return with a

2:48:20

song next week. Hold on. Refine this all the way across my

2:48:22

deck. Wait a minute. I got a

2:48:23

song for you. Oh,

2:48:26

no. Hold on one second. I'll

2:48:28

get you a song. Yay. Is it glass onion?

2:48:31

Was the song glass onion? Is it a glass onion.

2:48:35

The dirty song that you had from

2:48:37

the Beatles? No. I thought that was that that Here comes

2:48:40

the song. Is

2:48:42

it here comes the sun?

2:48:45

Well, that would rhyme with that

2:48:47

other word. But anyway, And

2:48:50

you just you you 278 you

2:48:52

you just said and he left the the drive through was

2:48:54

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