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Hello again, friends! And

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you are our friends, and welcome back

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to another edition of Jim Cornett's Drive-Thru

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right here on another cold day. It

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is almost officially winter. It

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feels like it for some of us. For

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some reason, there are lawnmowers somewhere for some of

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us. But we're

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gonna have fun today! Fun

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fun fun! Until Jim decides he

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doesn't want to do this anymore. I'm your

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host the great Brian Last, and we have fun

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rustling talk with Mr.

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Fun himself. Fun personified,

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Mr. Jim Cornett. I

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wonder who's got the lawnmowers. I

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just wonder, I can't imagine who

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has these lawnmowers that are everywhere.

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Omnipresent all the time. All

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lawn, all day, all

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night. Brian

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you cannot be... Tell the

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truth. Tell the truth that you've

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got some kind of illegal oil drilling operation

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going on up there in the backyard of

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Last Man or out in the wilds

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of New Jersey where you

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have a sconce to yourself and

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you've got something going on. They can't

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be mowing... How many people around there

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can be mowing

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their yards in the middle of December in New

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Jersey? Well, I'm assuming it's a mower.

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First of all, it's not me doing anything nefarious

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with oil drilling or whatever you're alluding to there.

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Well, are you fracking? We're not fracking

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over here. Are you fracking up there at

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the last manor? There's no fricking, there's no

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fracking, there's no Franklin. No fricking fracking? Nope.

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None whatsoever. But what I was going to

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say is there's farmland nearby. There's

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all sorts of big properties. So I

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say lawnmowers. The cows have

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heavy machinery now. Well, no, but it could be

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anything. It could be someone just driving some kind

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of truck to pick up leaves. It could be

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blowers of leaves. You know, again, the sucking

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machine is back. It could be...

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I have no idea what else is used on these

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properties. one goddamn- They

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could be chopping up corn! I don't know

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what they're doing! Can you name one piece

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of machinery that would be used on a

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farm at your farmland up there? Plow! The

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plow! Can you name one piece of- Huh?

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The plow! A plow!

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Yeah. A plow, and

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so your base of your farm references

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from 1856. You

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did not say when it had to be from-

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You think there's still a fucking horse in front

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of it? The goddamn guy behind him? Whoa! Stay

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straight there! A hoe! A hoe?

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Well hey, don't let your personal life

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get involved in this. Who you associate

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with up there in Bergen, New Jersey?

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Hey, a hoe for the farmland is

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what I'm talking about. Oh, well yeah,

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they have hoes that visit

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the farmers regularly to make sure they work hard.

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But see, you have no farm acknowledge what's- We

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got a farm- I don't have a farm! I

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don't live on a farm. I live near a

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lot of farms. If you go by, you ought

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to see the big tractors and the combines and

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the thrashing machines and the hay

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balers. Is the

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thrashing machine the official name? Is that

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its Christian name? That's actually- Taz's

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original gimmick was the human thrashing machine.

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That was more embarrassing. I think it

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was Kid Crush. Well,

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we won't go into sheets here when

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we're trying to entertain the people instead

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of shame poor Taz.

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Come back, shame. But

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anyway, I'm not gonna take a jack-all-of-shit

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seriously here today just so you know,

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and I may go off in a

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few tangents. It's almost festive-us, and

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I got a lot of problems with you people. But

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we are scant days

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away from the only break,

3:40

the only vacation, if

3:42

you will, that we take

3:44

all year long. We're gonna be doing

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the on-the-buses on various subjects and topics

3:49

and things from days gone by that

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the people have found the people, the

3:54

cult of Cornet, have

3:56

found entertaining and enjoyable and

3:58

have asked for in cases demanded possibly

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even might be a term

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that might be applied while

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we take a few days unless

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somebody does something stupid. And

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then we'll be doing a breaking news update

4:14

on the official Jim Cornette YouTube channel which

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I assume by now everybody in the world

4:18

is subscribed to. I think we're

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sold out of subscriptions on the YouTube. Can you

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still get it? Can you still

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subscribe to the YouTube channel or are we sold

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out? No we still have plenty of subscriptions to

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give out. We are on the march to a

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million and we are just under 389,000 subscribers

4:35

right now so we're about to hit

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400,000. I'm not

4:39

going to live long enough to get to a million

4:41

at this rate. Can we do another... it

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wasn't a fundraiser, we didn't ask people to send

4:45

any money last year. I said I'm almost

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62, well now I'm past 62 and

4:53

I want to get that plaque that says a million

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and we might be

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mathematically... I might be eliminated

4:59

in the fucking... in the

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death block if we don't hurry.

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So can people ask your friends and neighbors even

5:06

if you don't listen to any

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of the videos just subscribe to it so

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I can get this while I can still

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cognitively understand that I'm being handed a

5:15

plaque instead of a tube down my

5:17

throat. If anything does happen to happen

5:20

to you? Happen to

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happen? If anything does happen to happen

5:24

to you I guess if anything does

5:26

happen to you just to shorten

5:28

it, should we consider

5:30

a replacement Jim Cornette? Kind

5:32

of like Darren on Bewitched. I

5:35

don't know that anybody would take the role. Maybe

5:39

they could do it in a different way. I mean this is

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obviously one way. They could

5:43

apply themselves and change the Jim Cornette

5:45

character altogether. How would you

5:47

do Jim Cornette differently? You

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know it's kind of like Batman. You

5:52

go back to its roots. Rich kid, yachting

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hat, before the tennis he was in

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the yachting and you go

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down that road. I think that's what you do. Well,

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and who could we get to possibly

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be the new replacement

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back to his roots? 21

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year old snotty, rich brat.

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Well, that's a question for another day. I don't, I

6:15

haven't dealt with casting yet. Well, we

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got to get on this thing. We're,

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we're, we're dealing with cast. We ought to

6:22

go ahead and deal with casting. No, no,

6:24

we're not dealing with the 21 year old.

6:26

We're dealing with someone your age, but they

6:28

have a completely different backstory than. You

6:30

do from 1983 to now, but I'm still old. Yes,

6:36

but you still have the yachting cap. So,

6:39

but I'm still going to be the

6:41

same. I'm in Fifi and Fifi. Fifi

6:43

West was her Christian name. He

6:46

was Ronnie West dog. And you have a bald kid

6:48

that works for you. That's named Frank Morell Jr. And

6:53

he's got a black glove on his right hand.

6:56

The angel, the third. But

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if I'm still as old as I am

7:04

now, then I'm still the same distance away

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from a million subscribers on YouTube. So if

7:08

anything does happen to me, it'll happen to

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the fucking guy that's the same age too.

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Guilt. Give the listeners guilt. That's

7:16

what I'm trying to do. And you're talking

7:18

about recasting me. There's only one of me.

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So folks, if I'm ever going to see

7:22

the million subscribers, ask your friends and neighbors

7:24

and people you don't like, say, look, you

7:26

don't like me, but I'll

7:28

leave you alone. I won't speak to you anymore. You subscribe

7:30

to this fucking guy's channel. You don't have to listen to

7:32

shit. I just want the subscribers.

7:35

It's that way. I have few

7:38

goals left. There's almost nothing that

7:40

I have left to achieve. Brian. The

7:43

great Brian last end as Jim

7:45

Cornette Crispin Glover. Oh,

7:49

Jim Cornette's drive-through. I

7:52

like it. I've, I've, I don't

7:54

know. You can be an executive producer or

7:56

something. I'm going to replace me too. I'll

7:59

be well. If I get

8:01

replaced, you get replaced. But you'd be dead. I'd

8:03

be alive. I'm the executive producer. Why would I

8:06

replace myself? Out of respect

8:08

and honor for the dead. Honor?

8:10

Where's honor falling in love? In

8:12

honor of Jim Cornette. I'm not

8:14

gonna do this anymore. However,

8:17

I'll stay around and produce. Well,

8:19

yeah, because I know you're still

8:22

gonna be taking a cut. Well,

8:25

I'll be looking out for your interest, too. Let's be fair. Anyway...

8:28

Even replacement Jim Cornette's interests. Look,

8:31

and also, I've got a problem today. Because

8:33

again, as you mentioned, it's very cold. It's

8:35

freezing cold. When I took Harley out this

8:37

morning for her morning

8:41

Russo, it was

8:43

so cold and the wind got up my nose.

8:46

When I came back in, I blow my nose

8:48

and squish in the right ear. That

8:51

thing, it's now my headphones

8:53

sound like headphones on the left side

8:55

and a soup can on the right

8:58

side. And there's the

9:00

tinnitus that's... Would

9:02

somebody answer the goddamn phone? See

9:05

that kind of thing. So I'm hampered

9:07

there. You asked me if I could

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hear you well right before

9:11

we went on the air. And no, but that's not

9:14

any fault of the equipment. So

9:17

I'm a little cranky about that. And

9:20

I will say that this week's

9:23

experience coming up is

9:25

going to be the last one before the on-the-bus

9:28

season. And I've

9:31

got a few things that I'm going to have

9:34

there where people...it's the season. People

9:37

have sent some wonderful gifts

9:39

to me or Stacy or Harley or all three

9:41

of us. I'm going to recognize some of those

9:43

people. But I have a new book that

9:47

I hope I get a chance to read at least part

9:49

of by then. We're going to talk about it. But

9:51

Sean Delaney, you

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remember him. He's doing the History of

9:55

Louisville. The History of

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Evansville. Thank you. He's

10:01

been doing that like one book at a time. He did it like

10:03

1959, 1960, 61 and we talked

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Rip Hawk, the top star of the

10:08

local TV show there, promoter

10:11

Leon Balkan and the old

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Evansville Coliseum. Well

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he's gotten up to... Oh god

10:18

damn, I just got it in the mail. So it's either 62

10:20

or 63. And the book now,

10:23

this new book, is

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one of the most unique wrestling books that

10:28

I've ever read or about

10:30

to read. I flipped through it, it's

10:33

fascinating in that it's the

10:35

rest of the 1960s and it's

10:37

a book on wrestling in a town that

10:40

had almost no wrestling during that period of

10:42

time. But

10:44

it's the story of who

10:46

kept trying to run it, how it

10:48

got flummoxed up, how Leon Balkan

10:51

meets his demise and then it's

10:54

a Barnett's office out of Indianapolis

10:57

but that's right as Barnett's going

10:59

to Australia and Bruiser takes over.

11:02

And same thing as with Louisville, it didn't look

11:04

like he gave a piss about

11:07

Evansville at that point in time because he

11:09

was looking north in his

11:11

hometown. And

11:14

then this I did not know, the

11:17

Coliseum apparently for a time was closed

11:19

to sporting events and things of that

11:21

nature because they were using it as

11:23

a community center. So

11:25

that's why I remember we've

11:28

talked about this, when Jarrett

11:30

first opened up Evansville in what was

11:32

it early 1970, they went

11:34

to Robert Stadium, the 10,000 seat fucking building.

11:39

I'm like what was he insane? That was

11:42

the only place to go at that point. And

11:45

fortunately because they pulled out

11:47

of there fairly quickly but

11:51

at that point there was change in

11:53

the building politically, locally and he

11:55

was able to get the Coliseum and run for

11:57

the next 20 something years. So this I'm I'll

12:00

have more on this book but it's fascinating because

12:03

Goulis and Welch were trying to get in

12:06

and run Owensboro in the 60s and Owensboro

12:08

is only an hour

12:11

not even slightly

12:14

south and mostly east of Evansville and

12:16

they were trying to get in that

12:18

market. And it's a story

12:20

of how all these things were happening whereby kept

12:22

trying to run wrestling and they couldn't fucking pull

12:25

it off. It looks

12:27

fascinating is what I'm saying. But

12:32

otherwise that I can't hear and I

12:34

can't have time to read because I'm

12:36

sitting here doing another one of these things with you. What

12:38

do you want

12:40

to talk about Brian? Well don't

12:42

say that you sound so creepy. So

12:45

creepy but we have so much to talk about.

12:47

You know that may be the only thing Cody

12:49

needs to reevaluate. You know I

12:52

gave up the yachting hat after a while.

12:54

It just wasn't practical. Kept going

12:56

through too many of them. It was a pain

12:58

in the ass keeping them in stock. They kept

13:00

getting squished into boxes. These

13:02

things sometimes they don't all work. But

13:05

you would have made a killing on gimmick sales in

13:08

the future when you were a

13:10

babyface. For

13:12

that brief shining moment. That

13:16

would have been one thing that Turner got

13:18

right was the merchandising of yacht captain Jim

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Cornette. They tried it with Mike Rotunda. It

13:22

didn't work. You know in

13:24

all honesty that's one of those that the

13:26

Turner people liked me and Steve

13:29

Chamberlain at Turner Home Entertainment and

13:33

you know with the the crew and the

13:35

at the Techwood Drive studio because I was

13:37

in we've talked about this.

13:39

I was in the control room a lot either

13:42

conferring with Dusty or just standing in

13:44

the corner watching how this shit worked

13:47

and Dusty didn't run me out because I didn't bother

13:49

anybody and he knew what I was doing. But

13:52

they kept asking me to do the extra shit

13:54

right. I was kind of having to go down

13:56

to fucking Atlanta if I had a day off

13:58

or even an early afternoon. noon before going

14:01

somewhere. Remember the

14:03

season seasons beatings clash of

14:05

champions commercial. Where

14:08

I'm in the rocking chair. Do you, you

14:10

remember that don't you? Of course. Well,

14:13

you didn't pipe pipe in and fucking

14:16

agree. I've never seen

14:18

anyone rock the way you rocked in

14:20

that. No, I wasn't saying complimented. I

14:22

was just saying you remember it, right?

14:24

It's not like I'm just rambling, like

14:26

goddamn fucking Alzheimer's patient here. Remember your

14:28

shit that didn't happen. Try

14:31

to get some validation from my co-host that

14:33

I'm telling the truth. It was such a

14:35

deep shot at the rock and roll express

14:37

you rocking in the. All right. But

14:40

anyway, and I had the Santa Claus

14:42

racket cover it. I recited the Christmas

14:44

putt was the night before Christmas and

14:46

I can't remember what the fuck, but

14:49

basically they wrote me a little 30 second Christmas

14:52

poem seasons beatings to all and to

14:54

all a good fight, but

14:57

as in the, in front of the Christmas tree,

14:59

was that before you started doing your annual Christmas

15:01

poems? That was

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at the

15:05

same time, as a matter of fact, because that

15:07

was, that was the

15:09

clash of champions. It was the midnight express against flair

15:11

and wind them. And that was right after Crockett had

15:14

sold and Christmas 88. I did my first

15:16

fucking Christmas poem, which,

15:19

you know, we may have to, goddamn it, hold on,

15:21

I'm going to write this down. You can cut this

15:23

out if you want to. I'm going to write, we

15:25

can leave it. Read, read

15:27

my Christmas poems. Yes.

15:30

And I want for the experience.

15:34

I'll try to remember not to tear

15:36

these notes up. Were you inspired to write

15:38

the poem by sitting in the rocking chair

15:40

with the Santa hat on? Reading? No, I'd

15:42

already, I'd already written it. I

15:45

think around Thanksgiving, probably. I

15:48

was still real pissed off. But

15:51

anyway, and then Dick Murdock loved those.

15:54

I sent them in my Christmas cards to

15:56

everybody. I sent Christmas cards to, that was

15:58

in the wrestling business, not my. Lola

16:01

and, uh, Murdoch loved them. Every time I'd

16:03

see him next time, he, oh, goddamn

16:05

Cornette. That sounded

16:08

like Terry there, but they all sound like Terry

16:10

from Amarillo. Anyway, where I was going, where was

16:12

I going with this? You've

16:14

thrown me completely the fuck off now.

16:18

Uh, what was the, I was trying to

16:20

make the bow, the extra work, the TBS

16:22

stuff. Or the other

16:24

commercial or the thing with, uh, grandpa

16:26

Munster and the super scary

16:29

Saturday or the deal

16:31

they, when they had Eddie Haskell, uh,

16:34

Ken Osman to promote the

16:36

new leave it to Beaver that they had revived. They had

16:38

to have me in a,

16:41

which was cool at the clash of me to

16:43

the thing. But the point is, is that I

16:45

ribbed myself because I did a good job for

16:47

him and took an interest and they liked that.

16:49

So I didn't get paid extra for it as

16:51

shit. I didn't get a goddamn, I

16:54

don't even remember if they fucking set a

16:56

car for me to bring me from the

16:58

airport for the fucking Christmas commercial. So

17:01

it was a rib. It was like, I Kansas

17:03

city myself. The Eddie Haskell thing though, Ken Osman

17:05

was a little weird because that was at the

17:07

first clash and you had to interview him as

17:10

Eddie Haskell, not as the actor,

17:12

it wasn't an interview. It was a conversation

17:14

with Jim Cornette and Eddie Haskell. Yes. Because

17:16

here's what we came

17:18

in and, and I

17:21

think it was Steve Chamberlain there,

17:23

but also the other guy from

17:25

TBS, goddamn it. Now I'm old

17:28

enough, forgot his name, but anyway,

17:31

I don't want to call wrong names. And,

17:33

uh, so they said, yeah,

17:35

you're going to do a bit with, uh, Ken

17:38

Osman who plays Eddie Haskell on Newland. Obviously I

17:40

know who he is. I've been watching leave it

17:42

to beaver since I almost came out of the

17:44

beaver. And

17:46

that's it. He said, Hey, yeah, you

17:48

guys do a bit of plug the show. Okay.

17:50

Well, you know, they didn't, they just see you

17:52

guys make it up. So

17:55

I've got the goddamn midnight and fucking

17:57

fantastic smash. And then they tell us

17:59

we got. eight minutes or whatever

18:01

on TV and we're trying

18:03

to fucking figure that out. And they

18:05

pre-taped that because

18:07

that was an afternoon show. Remember that

18:09

was opposite WrestleMania on a Sunday

18:11

afternoon. Yeah. Like a 4 p.m. start, maybe.

18:14

Okay. So we probably got there at noon

18:17

or after knowing

18:19

the Carolinas and in those days.

18:22

And so literally I said,

18:24

hello to Ken Osman. And we went over as

18:27

if, what would you like to do, sir? Cause

18:30

I know, you know, he, to

18:32

me at that point, he was still the TV

18:34

star, right? I watched him. He

18:36

didn't know what the fuck was going on with wrestling.

18:40

And he just did his thing. They had told

18:42

him, you know, I'm a mama's boy and you're

18:44

a fucker. Let

18:46

me try this again. They had told him. So

18:48

he's saying to me, you're a

18:50

mama's boy and I'm

18:53

a spoiled, you know, smart ass.

18:55

Yeah. However, he termed it. So

18:58

let's just do this shit for a minute and a half. We

19:00

just came up with some shit and that's

19:02

how that, but again,

19:04

that's the thing is if you

19:06

sometimes, if you make yourself available,

19:09

you end up doing a lot of extra shit, but sometimes

19:11

you don't get paid for it. Imagine if

19:14

they had sent Barbara Billingsley. Now

19:17

that I would have been glad to

19:20

interview Barbara Billingsley and

19:22

find out just exactly why that her husband Ward

19:24

was so hard on the beaver all the time.

19:26

It would have been so funny if they made

19:28

her like a friend of your mom's. I'm

19:31

here to talk to you. You're

19:33

not behaving, Jimmy. No, no. And

19:36

you know what they should have found. They should have found

19:38

out whether, uh, Oh

19:40

my God. What was the actress's name that

19:43

played Milburn Drysdale's wife on

19:45

the Beverly Hill Billies? Oh,

19:47

I can't believe I've gone blank on her, but

19:50

they should have found out if she was still alive, she could

19:52

have been my mother. Anyway.

19:57

All right. So what do you want to talk about? I

20:00

asked you a few minutes ago and you shit on

20:02

show. Well, that's, well, that's why I

20:04

was asking you. So what do you want to talk

20:06

about? Oh, God damn it. Well,

20:09

you know, we could talk about the goddamn

20:11

various things that are going on in the

20:13

world of wrestling today. Boring. Okay.

20:17

Um, in that case,

20:19

how, how much

20:21

money do you think that fucking CM

20:23

Punk made the WWE

20:26

or TKO or the goddamn federal

20:29

reserve, whoever owns that fucking place

20:31

these days in one night

20:34

this past Monday night on raw, should we

20:36

start there? Hey, who's going to be the

20:38

wrestler that gets to the point where they

20:40

can negotiate for a piece of the ad

20:42

revenue on YouTube for their own videos? How

20:45

much money has he made them YouTube ad revenue in

20:47

just the last two weeks? Very

20:50

interesting because you know what? And

20:52

that's the thing is that everybody

20:55

in the wrestling business, well,

20:57

everybody that wanted to make money, all the

20:59

wrestlers, I should say in days gone by

21:01

through the history of the wrestling business that

21:04

were really serious about wanting to make money,

21:07

always wanted to get in the office, always

21:09

wanted to get a piece of a town

21:11

or a piece of the promotion or a

21:13

piece of whatever points in it, and

21:17

that's impossible now for a, any

21:19

kind of a promotion that makes any kind

21:21

of fucking money, the talent can never be

21:24

part owner. That's, that's

21:26

gone now. But it

21:28

seems like that a

21:30

royalty deal that

21:32

is more favorable than the

21:34

standard take what we send you. And if you

21:37

don't agree with it, get a lawyer and try

21:39

to fucking sue us, uh,

21:41

operation currently is. And

21:45

there's so many different ways to make revenue

21:47

possible now for a, any

21:49

kind of a promotion that makes any kind

21:51

of fucking money, the talent can never be

21:54

part owner that's, that's

21:56

gone now, but

21:58

it seems like that. a

22:00

royalty deal that

22:02

is more favorable than the

22:04

standard take what we send you. And if you

22:07

don't agree with it, get a lawyer and try

22:09

to fucking sue us. Uh,

22:11

operation currently is, and

22:15

there's so many different ways to make revenue

22:17

now, as you've just brought up. Is

22:20

that the next, uh, crusade for Steven

22:22

P. New when he finishes saving West

22:24

Virginia and then writes all the wrongs in

22:26

the wrestling business. He's almost done there. Well, think

22:28

about it. It makes sense. And

22:32

unlike DVDs or VHS or

22:34

even streaming, you

22:36

can really isolate what people are watching

22:38

so you could really pay royalties as

22:41

fairly as ever because you'll know

22:44

who's drawing the house and who isn't. But

22:47

now what about when the. The,

22:51

the guy who plays a druid that

22:53

CM punk runs by and clotheslines on

22:55

the way to the ring to make

22:57

his big debut or whatever, you know

22:59

what I'm saying? Some ancillary character

23:02

in the piece. So, well, wait

23:04

a minute. They were

23:06

looking at me too. How

23:08

do we adjudicate that? Well, I

23:10

think this is something again that would

23:12

need to be negotiated on a star

23:14

by star superstar by superstar basis until

23:17

it became standard. And then once

23:19

it's standard, I mean, just common sense

23:21

applies, unless there's an extra rule, the

23:24

stars of the video are the

23:26

ones who get the royalties off the video.

23:28

If the video is CM punk

23:31

face to face with Seth Rollins, the

23:34

referee who pops in to do something doesn't

23:36

get a cut unless they want to give

23:38

him a cut, which some wrestlers may

23:41

do. But I think for

23:43

royalties that have gone away,

23:45

YouTube is the great equalizer. You

23:48

know exactly who's drawing what. Well,

23:51

as far as, as that goes,

23:53

you are correct. But also, apparently

23:55

we know who's

23:58

drawing what in TV ratings. And

24:01

that's actually where I was

24:04

going with the topic originally, although he's

24:06

a rainmaker. Listen

24:08

to the rhythm of the falling

24:11

rain. Money's falling from

24:13

the fucking sky. Cos'

24:15

CM Punk got canned at his

24:17

previous job and Tony Khan looks

24:20

like a snob. If

24:23

he increased

24:27

the quarter from previous quarter

24:29

and then it had a

24:31

drop concurrent in the post

24:33

quarter of his appearance on

24:35

Raw by the entire

24:38

collision audience now. That

24:41

was just his increase of the

24:43

quarter hours. Now

24:47

correct me if I'm wrong, Brian, because you

24:49

keep up with the business. You

24:51

know me, I'm big picture. I'm an

24:53

old hippie. I'm not worried about the

24:56

financial gain. But

24:58

they did the SmackDown deal, right? What

25:02

does that mean? They did the SmackDown deal. Who

25:05

did what to who? The

25:07

WWE has done the TV

25:09

rights deal for SmackDown. Yeah,

25:12

SmackDown in 2024 will

25:14

be going from Fox

25:17

to the USA Network, the long time home

25:19

of Monday Night Raw and the past few

25:22

years NXT. Yeah, and they did the

25:24

NXT deal, right?

25:29

Right, NXT, which

25:31

a lot of people thought was going to be packaged with

25:33

Raw, ended up being not

25:36

sold off but worked on separately and

25:39

will be – Banished. Well, no, not

25:41

banished, but will be going – Changed in

25:43

the bowels of a slave ship. We'll be

25:45

going to – I guess we

25:47

could still in a sense call network TV, syndicated

25:49

TV, but it will be going to the CW.

25:51

So it will be in a ton of new

25:54

markets and potentially available to a whole lot

25:56

more people. Right. But

25:59

there's one more thing. deal that they ain't

26:01

done yet, right? The

26:03

raw deal. And

26:05

guess who's not going to get a

26:07

raw deal on the raw deal? Because

26:11

as soon as that's the only one

26:13

they've got left to do, and

26:16

wouldn't you know who won the pony, ladies

26:18

and gentlemen? CM Punk not

26:20

only makes his triumphant return to the

26:22

company, but appears

26:25

on raw to make

26:28

his decision on what the fuck's going

26:30

on, doesn't go on at fucking five

26:32

minutes to goddamn midnight or whatever, is

26:34

the first one, and signs with

26:36

raw and does a goddamn

26:38

monster fucking ratings jump for

26:40

the quarter against two apparently

26:42

of the professional

26:45

ballgames that were on the the other

26:47

night, and right

26:50

when they're doing the negotiations. This

26:53

makes perfect fucking sense.

26:55

These people are playing

26:58

3D chess when Tony

27:00

Khan is still got

27:02

tinker toys. And he's

27:04

gonna make them a fucking... we're

27:06

talking tens of millions of dollars

27:08

difference now. Maybe if

27:11

he can pop these numbers, get in the shit

27:13

people want to see, get

27:15

the attention he's continuing to

27:17

get, positive negative, it makes

27:19

no difference. When

27:22

he goes to Mindy's Bakery, I'm surprised they

27:24

don't have goddamn people

27:26

debating the fucking order. No,

27:29

that motherfucker, he's gonna order those

27:31

goddamn bran muffins. What

27:34

if he likes the bran muffins? What's

27:36

the matter with the bran? And they've

27:38

had his captain queued to some people, and

27:40

his goddamn mother Teresa to other people, but

27:42

they pay attention. So the

27:44

point is, now this continues to get

27:46

even more entertaining to me, that the

27:50

guy that would still be under contract

27:53

to AEW and appearing on

27:55

their television programs and pay-per-views,

27:57

major motion pictures, and sitcoms

28:00

baby is

28:02

now literally making the difference in

28:04

tens of millions of dollars in

28:06

revenue to the company that they

28:09

allowed him to just walk out

28:11

and go to. Come on,

28:13

let's be fair. If the Bucks had not resigned or if

28:15

Jungle Boy had been released and they had ended up here

28:17

at the same time doing the same kind of things, it

28:19

would have been just as big because they're just as big

28:22

of stars. They're just

28:24

as big of paws. Yeah, CM Punk.

28:27

But Jim, we'll get to the raw

28:29

ratings in a moment but I want

28:32

to bring this up to you because it's interesting. A

28:34

lot of people said that they could see Warner

28:37

Discovery becoming interested because of the,

28:40

I guess, previous comments attributed

28:43

to David Zasloff that he was one

28:45

Bill Phil and certainly we've

28:47

seen what collision has settled into without

28:49

one Bill Phil and we've

28:51

seen all the general AEW

28:53

issues. One

28:56

word came out that no, they're not

28:58

going to be talking to Raw. They turned

29:00

down Raw when, or they

29:02

turned down Nick Khan when he wanted to talk to

29:04

them earlier this year was the word. Whose

29:09

word is that? Well that's some of the

29:11

reports going around. I don't have anything in

29:13

front of me but I've seen those reports.

29:15

And then Dave Meltzer yesterday tweeted out, things

29:18

are changing greatly. Let's

29:21

just say things change greatly

29:23

with Raw negotiations from a few weeks

29:25

ago and Punk

29:28

is a huge part of the selling point. So

29:32

Uncle Dave makes this admission in public if

29:34

you will? Well again, first of all it's

29:36

a very vague tweet saying nothing. I don't

29:38

know why you would do that unless you're

29:41

just really hopped up for social media engagement.

29:43

Say something or say nothing, not things

29:45

are changing greatly. I

29:48

think he knows something is happening and

29:50

he doesn't either know what or even

29:52

want to say what or admit to

29:54

what but he has to say that

29:56

something is happening because later on knows

30:00

about it, they'll say, well Uncle Dave didn't know anything

30:02

was happening. Yeah, well let's see, because word went around

30:04

about a week and a half ago that the deal

30:06

was done. So if all of a sudden it's a

30:08

different deal or they're doing something different, it's going to

30:10

be very interesting here. But CM

30:13

Punk, if you're a network,

30:16

if you're a major company that owns a

30:18

network, whatever it may be, and

30:20

you see everything that WWE can present to you,

30:23

which is the same shit they're presenting to the audience at home. Look

30:25

at the social media engagements, look at how

30:27

big the video was on YouTube, look at how

30:30

big it was on TikTok, on every single

30:32

social media platform. And this

30:34

guy's going to be the star of this show. Three

30:37

hours, here's how much we were getting, here's how

30:39

much of a bump we think we deserve. But

30:42

wait a minute, don't even gloss over the

30:44

fact that it's already a program that draws

30:47

at least double the amount

30:50

of viewers that the

30:52

existing program that they have

30:54

draws and two of

30:57

the people drawing that and

30:59

potentially more are people

31:02

that were on their network within the last

31:04

two fucking years. Oh

31:06

my God, can you imagine if they brought Raw and

31:08

a Warner Discovery and then they bring back for season

31:10

two, Rhodes to the top? When

31:15

we last left you. It

31:17

would be Rhodes to the moon. They'd

31:22

have to bring the robot back. I

31:24

wonder if Bob May is still doing

31:26

voiceover work, to do the robot and

31:28

Cody is John Robinson. Danger

31:33

Brandy. And Brandy,

31:36

Brandy is June or not

31:38

June Lockhart. June Lockhart was a real name,

31:40

Jim. June Lockhart. It's

31:43

Maureen. Yes. Or

31:45

she'd probably want to be June Robinson. And

31:49

they could bring back Marco Stunt to

31:52

be Will. Cause

31:54

he's an annoying little brat that always fucking

31:56

gets at everybody's fucking craw. You really have

31:59

gone over the- the edge. Now you're recommending

32:01

they bring back Marco Stunt for this project?

32:03

That's how much you want to see this

32:05

project take off. Well,

32:07

we'll see what happens. That would be

32:09

amazing though. If you really think about

32:12

beyond the AWWWE, just the idea that this

32:14

station, if they ever did go with WWE

32:16

Raw, they would have

32:19

Punk and Cody Rhodes in their promos on

32:21

that station for two different programs within

32:23

like three years. Well, and let's back up

32:25

on this for a second before we go

32:28

anywhere else. It's your show. I'll follow you

32:30

wherever you may lead. But

32:34

just focus on being whether David Zasloff,

32:37

he's the head of the whole shooting

32:40

match as they say, right? The whole

32:42

kit and caboodle. Yes, for now.

32:44

But he's not even the programming guy. He's

32:46

the boss. Because

32:50

programming people are important, but the boss is

32:52

more important than the programming people. He

32:56

has a wrestling program and he's not

32:59

the one that was there when they made the

33:01

deal, remember? He's the new boss. Maybe

33:07

not same as the old boss. Can I stop

33:09

you for a second? Yes. Because

33:11

this is one of the things I always found funny

33:13

and now it's worth talking about at this

33:15

very moment. The story

33:17

early on was that Tony Khan was

33:19

just suddenly inspired by things

33:22

in Japan that he said, gosh

33:24

darn it, I'm gonna take my inheritance

33:26

and my dad's just throwing at me and I'm

33:29

gonna lose it all on a wrestling company. Now I'm

33:31

gonna start a wrestling company because I have a relationship

33:33

with someone from the network who

33:36

knows me and they didn't know about the

33:38

history of wrestling there and I told them and

33:40

they gave me a deal. He ran into

33:43

him at a cocktail party or some type

33:45

of business function for their football and broadcasting

33:47

and various enterprises that they

33:49

were in. Everything, you know, makes

33:51

sense, but then they started saying this part out

33:54

loud very early on and

33:57

this company will become huge once we get a rights

34:01

renewal from this same

34:03

company that we're doing business

34:05

with. They bet

34:07

their whole business on a major rights

34:09

renewal. That's what Tony

34:12

was selling to Dave Meltzer. Well, remember

34:14

at first they signed a

34:16

deal where put us on the air and

34:18

the network would pay for the production cost

34:20

because Tony had unlimited funds to pay the

34:23

wrestlers and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And

34:26

then a few months in because they actually

34:28

did, he did come up with a company

34:30

because people are saying, Oh, because of the

34:32

tremendous success. No, because he actually came up

34:35

with a company, which when they made the

34:37

original deal did not even exist. Then

34:40

they said, okay, we'll pay your rights fee. Cause now we

34:42

know you can actually do this shit. You can give us

34:44

a program. And then

34:46

they started paying the rights fee and now they're up

34:48

for renewal. So

34:50

this will be the third technically

34:53

the third deal that they've had

34:55

with these people. And the point is

34:57

over that four years, this

34:59

guy was not the guy that was in

35:01

charge then he was not the guy that

35:03

Tony originally talked to. They've inherited this already.

35:06

I that's correct. I'm assuming right

35:08

as the way I remember it. Right. So

35:12

this guy now says, wait a minute. We got

35:14

a wrestling program on our network. Where

35:17

two of the wrestlers that we've

35:19

had go to the

35:22

goddamn WWE and they fucking

35:24

they're drawing huge numbers at everything they fuck it

35:26

do. And they're featured in main events. Why, what

35:28

the fuck? Why

35:31

don't we go for if we're going to have wrestling?

35:35

Why don't we have that shit? Well,

35:37

here's a question for you. If you

35:40

were a businessman WWE or no

35:42

WWE, would you bet long-term on Tony come? If

35:46

you're dealing with all sorts of people in

35:48

the entertainment industry and you have a company

35:50

that's less popular than it was a few years

35:52

ago, draws smaller numbers than they did a few

35:55

years ago, constantly has drama, their

35:57

top stars leave whenever

35:59

they say They say fuck a lot on TV.

36:01

Yeah, well, you want to talk about fuck whenever the

36:03

fucking Endeavor guys are having lunch all over town, they're

36:05

talking about what a shit show it is over at

36:08

AEW. Do you

36:10

want to deal with that, or…? Now,

36:12

again, they… as everyone believes at

36:14

this point, they own a piece to

36:17

non-voting share, but if it's 30% and

36:19

they're getting 30% of the profits, it can't be that because there are no

36:22

profits. Yeah,

36:25

there are no profit, Jerry! There are no profits,

36:27

Jerry! There are no profits! So they're getting

36:29

30% of the revenues. So what are they

36:31

worth for pizza? Yeah, and we'll talk

36:33

later on about… because there's been a

36:35

whole bunch of stuff about the AEW

36:38

financials rumored out there. I mean, nothing's

36:40

a fit… not rumored, but reported on without

36:42

any actual solid financial… Rif…

36:44

Rif facts. Reported on without any actual

36:46

knowledge of the product. Speculated

36:50

and extrapolated on by what's been reported

36:52

and uttered by some people's own chicken

36:54

lips is basically what we've got. As

36:57

we go back to this, CM Punk

37:00

has made a difference already in merch. He's the biggest

37:02

merch seller there so far, and you would expect that

37:04

going in there and, you know,

37:06

everything that's happening. He's already

37:09

now been announced for two house shows, big ones at

37:11

the end of the year at the garden. Madison Square

37:13

Garden? Yeah. So they're

37:15

doing that for a reason, and I'm sure he's going to move

37:17

some tickets. We already

37:19

know what he's done for their social

37:22

media, for their YouTube, for their

37:24

television ratings. Again,

37:27

if you've done business with him and you didn't

37:29

have a problem with him, and you see everyone

37:31

else did, and then you look at all these

37:33

results, your WWE

37:35

has an incredible sales package to

37:37

bring all over town. AEW doesn't.

37:41

And, Brian, if only somebody

37:43

could have foreseen this

37:46

chain of events happening, that

37:48

if Punk was to somehow

37:51

be allowed to get away from AEW, that

37:54

he could easily walk right

37:56

into the Survivor Series in Chicago. No!

37:59

Don't ever! take him back. He's

38:01

evil. Because he would

38:04

immediately be pushed

38:06

into the main event spot because

38:08

of the potential match-ups and the

38:10

new ownership. They're trying to maximize

38:12

revenues. Who could have possibly conceived

38:14

something like this that would make

38:16

so much sense? They

38:18

would never do it! He hit two

38:20

bucks and scared Jungle Boy! Who

38:23

in the world could have put things

38:25

like this on tape? Or

38:28

even whatever we put it on

38:30

now in this modern age and

38:32

broadcast it to the world for

38:34

months before it actually happened because

38:36

it made fucking sense! He's a

38:38

liar! He lied about his dog's teeth!

38:41

Don't hire him! He'll

38:43

kill the company! Don't you

38:45

bring Larry into this, goddamn yeah! I

38:47

will... I will browbeat you

38:49

forever if you bring Larry into this.

38:52

Larry's not even real! He's a lie! I

38:55

love Larry! He is too

38:57

real. He sent Harley a Christmas card. You

38:59

can't trust punk around the women! Or the

39:02

men! You can't have him

39:04

there! He's dangerous! He's around

39:06

all of them in the WWE

39:09

and so far he's neither punched anyone

39:11

nor assaulted anyone, nor apparently

39:13

as far as we know been

39:15

rude to anyone except for Seth

39:18

Rollins. He's a danger to

39:20

society and catering! Get

39:23

him out! Triple H will never

39:25

put up with him! They

39:27

shook hands the other day for a picture,

39:29

didn't they, on the Twitter? The AEW

39:31

fans still holding onto the dream are the

39:33

most delusional fans out there right now. They're

39:35

still fans holding onto the dream. And

39:38

don't worry, the Bucks will be back soon to save

39:40

the company. Don't worry.

39:42

Keep ignoring reality. You know

39:44

what? I'll be the voice of reason for once. I

39:47

told you I wasn't taking shit seriously today, so that's

39:49

why I'm going to be the voice of reason. You

39:52

just painted a large group with the

39:54

same brush. You said the AEW fans.

39:57

There are the AEW fans that like

39:59

the fucking... You know,

40:03

gymnastics exhibition with the Sabre dance behind

40:05

it on the Ed Sullivan show where

40:07

they're all fucking tumbling in unison

40:10

with each other. But there are some fans

40:12

that just wanted to see something else besides

40:15

the WWE, which of

40:18

course, even now that they're better, we still

40:20

would like to see a little faster moving

40:22

product. But

40:25

it's not the – but the problem

40:27

is this was never going to be

40:29

it because,

40:33

again, Tony

40:35

couldn't accept that if he

40:37

funded something that professionals were

40:39

in charge of and

40:42

professionals made professional decisions

40:44

about professional talent instead

40:47

of who was, you

40:49

know, the fucking – what do they call

40:51

it across the pond? Across the pond, the fucking Queen's tits are one of

40:53

those expressions on the indies at that particular point in time and a long-term

40:55

plan and an infrastructure in place in all facets before and behind the camera

40:57

that involved people with experience on not only wrestling but how to broadcast a

40:59

goddamn television and producer wrestling program that didn't have to list

41:02

the Tony Khan's delusions that he learned in his E-Fed or whatever

41:04

when he was a teenager with the other

41:06

two guys that he's talked about. So

41:13

I'm not maligning him. I'm reporting his biography from

41:15

his own lips. That's the problem.

41:17

That's what I knew from the start. Why

41:25

get invested in this goddamn thing?

41:27

Because ultimately, it's going to fall apart like all these

41:29

other – this has taken a lot longer because,

41:32

you know, it's not going to be a problem. I

41:37

know that's a surprise. But

42:02

remember the fucking guy that won the

42:04

lottery in South

42:06

Carolina? He was a 19 year old

42:08

kid living with his mom and he

42:11

won like, I don't know how

42:14

many million dollars and

42:16

he got a damn way to start a fucking

42:18

women's wrestling league. Resolacious.

42:22

He even had Jimmy Hart working for him. It's

42:25

resolacious, baby. And they

42:27

did television tapings and everything. And

42:31

guess where he was when he was 21

42:33

years old, Brian? Broke. And

42:36

living with his mother. But

42:39

it's just... Now that's resolicious.

42:42

You know, that was their commercials.

42:48

Tony Khan could have been the savior of

42:51

wrestling if he'd have assembled

42:53

a goddamn group of about 10

42:55

people in

42:57

various positions with experience in the

43:00

wrestling business say, here, here's unlimited

43:02

money and I can get you

43:04

on TBS television.

43:08

Put this together for me. Pick

43:11

a goddamn roster. Let's

43:13

see who we can buy out or

43:15

accumulate. What is

43:18

the plan for the

43:20

style that we're going to be presenting? What

43:23

is the goddamn thing that can make us

43:26

different from the WWE and we can stay

43:29

away from their strengths and focus on their

43:31

weaknesses? Or

43:36

something like that. But instead

43:38

he went to his childhood notebooks

43:40

and brought all that to life

43:43

with every indie darling

43:45

that the people that he was most

43:47

fascinated by went to school

43:49

with or rode up and down the road with.

43:52

But Jim, let's get all the CM Punk stuff out

43:55

of the way right now and let's do it a

43:57

little bit differently. Let's talk about Punk on Raw after

43:59

we talk about it. the ratings just because that ties

44:01

into what we've been just talking about. Right. Because

44:04

we don't want to be talking about different shit that we

44:06

hadn't been talking about yet. That's

44:08

right. You know what I'm talking about? I don't know

44:10

what you're talking about. Let's

44:12

go to this and talk about this. Monday

44:14

Night Raw this past week, the overall average

44:17

number, and the date on this

44:19

was December 11th on the USA Network,

44:21

1,466,000 viewers. That

44:28

Brian last and as you said, we

44:30

will go into more detail about the

44:33

actual appearance. It came at, I'm looking

44:35

at my notes. Oh,

44:37

God damn it. And

44:41

the nine o'clock hour. The

44:43

nine o'clock hour. See,

44:45

I was starting from the back because before they

44:47

put him on at 10 fucking 52, remember, the

44:51

nine o'clock hour and

44:54

the, I have this jotted

44:56

down from the documentation

44:58

that I saw the

45:01

previous quarter hour before

45:03

the punk appearance did 1,504,000.

45:08

Right? That

45:11

is correct. The punk quarter and

45:13

his face off

45:15

with Seth Franklin Rollins did

45:18

1,881,000. Is

45:24

not only the high point of the show, it was a

45:27

jump of 377,000 people, which as we mentioned

45:33

is oft times the

45:36

entire audience of collision these days and

45:38

definitely better than Rampage. Well, in the

45:41

key demo alone, the quarter

45:43

before was 657,657,000 viewers, they jumped to

45:48

814, which was the

45:50

high point in the show and then after that

45:52

segment back down to 567. And

45:56

as a matter of fact, after that segment, they

45:58

dropped to 1 million. 432,000. So they

46:00

lost 449,000 people after they... Okay, punk's done. Well,

46:08

the other problem is, oh, that punk

46:10

segment was great. Should I go to the

46:12

bathroom or should I see what's on? What's

46:15

on next? Oh, it's Valhalla and Ivar, followed

46:17

by a Bronson Reed video and then Ivar

46:19

versus Reed with a bunch of commercials in

46:21

between. That's a commercial for everyone...

46:23

or that's a segment for everyone to go

46:25

take a bathroom break. Yes, or

46:27

make a sandwich or do

46:31

something of a constructive nature. But

46:33

again, that was the... Remember,

46:37

we've talked about the

46:39

WWE ratings. Do not

46:42

lose from start to finish 20

46:44

or 25% or sometimes 30% of the audience like the AEW shows

46:46

do. Raw

46:52

does lose in the last hour because it's three

46:54

fucking hours. And

46:56

they're usually somewhat consistent in that they're

46:58

not all over the... But this is

47:00

a spike. This is... At

47:04

that point, that was 27% of the audience that... or

47:09

27% jump in the audience. And

47:13

you can't ignore something like that. What the

47:15

fuck did... And against a

47:17

couple of football games. So you know

47:19

people, that's probably... A lot

47:23

of the fucking people watch the football games are

47:25

starting... are clicking back and forth to see when

47:27

the fuck is punk gonna do this and

47:30

then I'll get out of it again. They almost

47:32

did as many viewers in the key demo as

47:34

AEW Dynamite does overall. So there

47:37

you go. Monday

47:41

night in the key demo. Well,

47:44

it's a different tune for that song,

47:47

I'll tell you. As

47:50

the Dream Machine would say, they're about

47:52

to start doing some sad singing and

47:54

slow walking. But that's the point I

47:56

wanted to make is at

47:59

the perfect time... time for

48:01

their rights renewal. They've

48:05

done and for their business

48:07

and pay-per-view and Royal Rumble

48:09

and WrestleMania, they did the exact

48:12

thing that made perfect fucking sense all along,

48:14

which is why we said it has to

48:16

be fucking done because these people ultimately,

48:19

when it's tens of millions

48:21

of dollars are on the line, they

48:24

do shit that makes sense. Well,

48:26

speaking about things that make sense, I don't know

48:28

how much of Raw you think you're going to

48:31

be talking about here. But why don't we...

48:33

We're talking about the segment and the ratings it did. Why

48:35

don't we talk about the punk segment right now? Well,

48:38

I think we should because it's

48:40

only one page in. There wasn't much in

48:43

the first hour to fucking no take. And

48:45

this is why we call it the big

48:47

nine o'clock hour right here. The big nine

48:49

o'clock hour. And

48:52

Adam Pearce was in the ring

48:54

and he introduced, of course, the man who's

48:56

going to make his decision. Where is he

48:58

going to go? CM

49:00

Punk and suddenly, like Mussolini

49:06

in a best-selling tee. Good

49:10

job. He got the ovation.

49:12

He got the viewers. He got the

49:15

ratings. He's selling merchandise. The music comes

49:17

down. He's got the chance. And Pearce

49:19

sends him the mic. And

49:23

here's the thing about... We'll

49:25

talk about the story he told in a second. But the

49:27

fact that, again, he

49:29

told a story. He

49:31

talks to people. Everybody

49:34

else almost is talking Adam, reciting

49:36

things to them,

49:39

at them. But he's not talking or

49:41

they're not talking to the people. And

49:45

in the wrestling, in the territory days

49:47

especially, whether everybody likes it or not,

49:50

the heels but even the over-baby

49:53

faces. They were over-the-top

49:55

personalities or they were boisterous or

49:57

they were trash talkers or shit-disturbing.

50:00

that got you interested in themselves and

50:03

what the fight was that they

50:05

were going to be involved in,

50:07

the issue, that was what drew money. In

50:11

modern times, it is

50:15

unfashionable to have a personality or

50:18

to be a boisterous shit-talking,

50:21

fucking, over-the-top fucking

50:23

yahoo like goddamn handsome Jimmy

50:25

Valleter, whatever the fuck. But

50:28

the point still remains that

50:30

you have to believe what somebody

50:32

is saying. So

50:34

even if, again, having a

50:37

personality these days is frowned upon in

50:39

this environment, punk

50:41

as a personality, he's

50:44

got that twinkle in his

50:46

eye, as Mama Cornet might say. He's

50:49

got that smart-ass tone edge, but at

50:51

the same time, you believe he's probably

50:53

a good guy until maybe he's not.

50:56

But he talks to people. He tells

50:58

him a story. He says shit that

51:00

sounds like he believes it. In

51:03

a lot of cases, he does. It is genuine.

51:07

And he then, as Jerry

51:09

Jarrett used to say, tell people the

51:11

truth as long as you can, that

51:14

they know to be the truth, because then when

51:16

you work them for the sake of the wrestling,

51:19

they don't know where one starts and the other

51:21

stops. But

51:23

punk is, he talks to people.

51:25

He's genuine in that respect.

51:28

And a lot of these people, to

51:31

them, he's come back to wrestling

51:33

for the first time. They didn't

51:36

pay enough attention. It wasn't this week or their

51:38

week to watch AEW, where they had paid enough

51:40

attention that there was another wrestling show. So

51:44

for this, it's brand new for these people. So

51:47

he's breaking a little bit of the

51:49

same ground, but in a different fashion and

51:51

in a whole lot bigger platform. But

51:54

do you agree with me on that? That

51:56

almost everybody, Brian,

51:58

these days, we talk about

52:01

it reciting, memorized. It's like they

52:04

might as well have a guy doing an

52:06

in-ring promo, just open on the ring with

52:08

curtains and have the curtains

52:10

open and he, you know, by

52:13

the last breath of the four

52:15

winds that blow, I'll have revenge

52:17

upon Fortunato. It's

52:20

a fucking play. You can't believe

52:23

it on an emotional level or get

52:25

interested in somebody. Except

52:27

for a few of the breakthrough

52:29

wordsmiths. Just

52:32

wait until they have a 20-minute segment with Cody

52:34

and Punk in the ring in the future because

52:36

then it'll really show the dichotomy between the ways

52:38

of speaking. But WWE has a lot of

52:40

that and some guys pull it off. LA Knight speaks

52:44

above the audience but to them. Punk

52:47

is telling a story in a down-to-earth

52:49

way, whether you like him or not. That's just

52:51

the way he delivers it. Yes. And

52:54

then you have people, I mean, I hate to single out one

52:56

of your favorites, but like Austin Theory. I

52:58

can't believe anything this guy says. He

53:00

doesn't know how to deliver it yet. He was,

53:03

he was headed in that direction and then they

53:05

just kind of started floundering in every category, but

53:07

I think it still can be there, but somebody

53:09

needs to be working on it. He needs to

53:11

be working on it. He might, might ought to

53:14

be in goddamn, not

53:16

even NXT. He ought to be an

53:18

OVW or somebody in two

53:20

TV markets to see and him give him the whole show

53:22

and let him just take over and see if he can

53:24

bring it out. But nevertheless, the other issue is not a

53:26

lot of. Well, let me say what, what he said. Hold

53:29

on. I'm still respond to find you

53:31

as far as Cody. There's

53:33

room for that too, because he's

53:36

so dramatic. Dusty was dramatic in

53:38

his own every man,

53:40

son of a plumber way. You've

53:42

got LA Knight, who's the, the

53:45

wrestler guy. You've got CM Punk,

53:47

who's the modern

53:49

guy. You've got fucking Cody,

53:51

who's the dramatic guy. If

53:54

in the territories, everybody was

53:56

different. They had a different

53:58

style personality outlook. except

54:01

for the people who were just there to just fucking

54:03

wrestle. And they could

54:05

be interchangeable. So it's, they, they're,

54:08

they're baby faces and Jey Uso, I

54:10

think he's different than all, he's yeetin'

54:13

all over the place. Nobody else

54:15

is yeetin'. So

54:17

they're all different. That's what they've got going

54:20

for him too. I think Triple H may

54:22

have figured this out. That

54:24

what Vince, Vince was just cookie cutter and a

54:26

lot of fucking people. What I

54:28

was going to say is Punk has one thing also going

54:30

for him in that he's already a star and he's established

54:32

how he talks, when he talks, what he does. A

54:35

lot of people would not

54:37

get that opportunity to go out there and be more

54:40

natural in what they're saying and not just

54:42

tighten on the script. But

54:44

unfortunately from a lot of the guys that I

54:47

see, the way they do the written stuff, I'm

54:49

not sure they'd be that much better at the

54:51

fucking ad lib. But

54:53

anyway, so Punk, the promo, he

54:56

drew the analogy to

54:58

Cleveland and that arena and what it had

55:01

meant to him through his

55:03

career. He, you

55:05

know, had his like his, I don't

55:07

know if it was a tryout dark match,

55:09

whatever, but he debuted in

55:12

Cleveland and they, he

55:14

passed that test apparently and got sent

55:17

to OVW. And

55:19

then he came back later on when he was on

55:21

the roster to Cleveland as the world champion and I

55:23

guess that's where Orton kicked him in the head and

55:25

he got a concussion and they stripped him of the

55:27

title. And then

55:30

that was where that

55:32

he did the,

55:34

uh, basically walked out and as he

55:36

said, took himself off the hamster wheel

55:38

10 years ago, almost

55:41

to the day. And

55:44

everybody in Cleveland that was there,

55:46

they're the faithful WWE fans. They

55:49

knew that to be true. And

55:51

so then he said, you know,

55:53

if anybody was disappointed or betrayed because

55:56

I, cause I

55:58

went home cause I couldn't take it, whatever. He

56:01

felt the same way when Piper went to

56:03

WCW. So if you were mad at

56:05

me, I understand. And I apologize. Why

56:07

couldn't he say I'm sorry to the box? Cause

56:11

he wasn't. And

56:14

then, you know, he talked about the offers

56:16

that everybody made, but Pierce put the best

56:19

deal together of all. See punk is not

56:21

going to be beating Pierce up in the

56:23

near future. I do not believe like Orton

56:26

can get away with, with Aldous because of the

56:29

different personality and dynamic. And

56:32

his mind was made up when he

56:34

saw Cleveland on the schedule. 10 years

56:36

ago, I walked out and I've walked

56:38

right back in and congratulations. Adam Pierce,

56:41

CM punk is home. And

56:44

he signed the contract and

56:46

that's again, that's perfect. You

56:49

know, he takes you on the

56:51

ride with him with enough of the inflections and

56:53

the sides and everything. But at the same time,

56:55

you don't get, it's not like, Oh God, can

56:58

you get to the point? Oh God, I wish

57:00

this would be over like a lot of the

57:02

other stuff because it's not coming from their heart

57:04

and their mind. And there's

57:06

not, you know, when, when

57:09

they've got these other guys saying these ridiculous

57:11

things, there's not that level

57:13

of connection, but

57:15

I thought a good job there, boom, gets

57:18

the pop. And do you have any comments

57:20

before the worm turns? Good job there at

57:22

some of the points where he was talking.

57:24

Like you said, not really speaking at the audience

57:27

or past the audience. They got

57:29

quiet to hear what he was going to say. And I wanted to see

57:31

how they were going to react there. A good promo though. And

57:34

then here comes the music

57:36

of Seth Franklin Rollins. And

57:41

he still gyrated and capitulated

57:44

to the ring. But

57:46

when they get in the ring, there's the big face

57:48

off and the stare down and they milked

57:51

it and it, and a while in the

57:53

fans first, it started

57:55

rumbling and they started to whoa,

57:57

or God damn, I can never

57:59

remember. his tune, oh,

58:01

oh, oh, oh, oh, whatever

58:04

the fuck. They did his. And

58:07

then as

58:10

soon as Seth says, welcome to

58:12

Monday Night Rollins and

58:14

said, don't dare call this place your home,

58:17

well then they start chanting for punk. And

58:21

they've created a dynamic here where they're

58:24

not switching Seth, baby, or heel. He's

58:27

just not going to goddamn have him. There's

58:31

always the one SOB in every crowd,

58:33

right? But

58:36

at the same time, the people are glad

58:38

and happy to see punk back. And so,

58:40

but they're interested in this. And

58:44

Seth's story is you abandoned this place 10

58:46

years ago and you spent that time trying

58:48

to tear it down and slander everybody. It's

58:52

my home and the talent are my

58:55

brothers and sisters and I'm going to

58:57

protect the fans from people like you.

59:00

He says, I, with every fiber

59:02

of my being, I hate you.

59:04

I wish he'd have said, I loathe

59:07

you from hell's

59:09

heart. I

59:14

loathe you from hell's heart. Everybody

59:17

said, but if you're going to be part of

59:19

the WWE, I want you on raw because

59:21

the truth always comes out. And this is

59:24

your last chance. Either you're going to self

59:26

destruct. And blow up and

59:28

you'll be done. Or if by miracle you

59:30

have changed and you've got enough, enough

59:33

gas left in your tank or

59:35

whatever, maybe then you're going

59:37

to fight me for the world title. And I'll

59:40

expose you for a fraud and show you

59:42

that I'm the best in the world. And

59:46

the whole time punk is, is looking

59:48

at him and sitting there and taking it. And

59:52

then he says, are you punk says,

59:54

are you, are you done? Then that's

59:56

your one pass to talk to me

59:58

disrespectfully and get away with. It is

1:00:00

frivolously, if you will. And

1:00:04

then he called, Punk

1:00:06

called for Adam Pearce at eight. Just

1:00:09

to let you know CM Punk is

1:00:11

entering the Royal Rumble. And

1:00:14

when I win, maybe it's you that I'm going

1:00:16

to be coming after, because remember we were speculating,

1:00:19

if you will, mental

1:00:22

masturbation on

1:00:24

who, if he wins the Rumble, he

1:00:26

might challenge and let's

1:00:29

face it, so far

1:00:31

the real champion and everybody's mind is

1:00:33

Roman Reigns. But if you've got Seth

1:00:37

Rollins and now CM Punk and

1:00:40

Punk was to win that, then you're

1:00:42

starting to make a case for it maybe. But

1:00:46

anyway, point is they,

1:00:49

they then left in

1:00:51

a huff, as they say. And that was

1:00:54

15 minutes and it

1:00:57

wasn't boring for one of the first

1:00:59

times in Raw history. Great

1:01:02

segment. Leaves you wanting more.

1:01:06

I'll say this about Rollins. I

1:01:09

think he does one of the best

1:01:11

serious faces there. When he's not talking,

1:01:13

when he's not laughing, either him

1:01:15

just looking dead on at the person

1:01:17

and obviously being angry or

1:01:19

him slightly smirking. That's so

1:01:22

effective. Yeah. And the fact that when Punk

1:01:24

says that's your one free shot, he

1:01:26

didn't break into like just hysterical after or something,

1:01:28

because that punk would have had to have done

1:01:30

something, it played out perfectly and it leaves you

1:01:33

wanting more and it leaves

1:01:35

you wanting Rollins versus Punk at some point. I

1:01:38

can, I can see both

1:01:40

of those guys for obviously for the

1:01:43

same reason of wanting to get the thing

1:01:45

over, both of those guys realizing or knowing

1:01:47

that Seth can't really

1:01:50

cackle too much over this. If he really

1:01:52

fucking hates the guy, which is the point

1:01:54

of the whole thing, he wouldn't be doing

1:01:56

his whole, you know, he

1:01:59

would. be the boogeyman handsome Jimmy

1:02:01

Valiant with the fucking eye patch

1:02:04

on Gordon. I will instead of

1:02:06

whoo missy. So

1:02:08

hopefully we'll get more of that. And

1:02:11

punk in the rumble again, they have Cody announced

1:02:13

for the rumble. They have punk announced for the

1:02:15

rumble. I think we knew punk was going to

1:02:17

be in the rumble as soon as, you know,

1:02:19

we saw him, but I, you know, at least

1:02:21

he's, he's come out and said it. My

1:02:24

gosh, with over a month to promote

1:02:26

it. Imagine that. He's going

1:02:28

to be working a couple of house shows already announced.

1:02:32

MSG and I think one in California. Do

1:02:35

you have him wrestle on TV before the run? I asked you

1:02:37

this before, do you have him wrestle before the rumble? And you

1:02:39

said, no, why would you? And

1:02:41

now they announced it for house shows. Well,

1:02:43

but that's okay. We

1:02:46

should have put a finer point on that question.

1:02:49

I w I still would not have

1:02:51

him wrestle on television before the rumble,

1:02:53

unless it is. Let

1:02:55

me go, let me go back on that now, as I'm saying it.

1:02:58

If it was a perfect opportunity with

1:03:00

an opponent that, you

1:03:03

know, he could just shine with a

1:03:05

little short something and somebody run into

1:03:07

something physical, whatever the fuck, if they're

1:03:09

doing an angle, that's fine.

1:03:11

I would not give a legitimate main

1:03:14

event, top restaurant

1:03:17

quality, see them punk match away

1:03:19

on free television before the rumble,

1:03:21

but a match to reassure

1:03:24

the people in their mind that he can still

1:03:26

go because they haven't seen him in 10 years

1:03:29

and what the fuck he can do. And then

1:03:31

maybe to juice something up for the rumble. I

1:03:34

could see doing that, but how

1:03:37

shows I wasn't even thinking about, but

1:03:40

in Madison square garden, yeah, I'd add

1:03:42

punk to Madison fucking square

1:03:44

garden. They'll draw a million dollars. I mean,

1:03:46

they were going to draw close to that.

1:03:48

If not more anyway, they'll draw another several

1:03:50

hundred thousand, probably if they add him. So

1:03:54

yeah, the garden, if it's

1:03:56

California, Los Angeles, or

1:03:58

the greater. Hollywood,

1:04:00

California market, whatever the fuck. Yes,

1:04:02

I can see doing that and

1:04:05

the people there live are going to

1:04:07

see it, but that doesn't spoil anything

1:04:09

related to a nationally televised pay-per-view.

1:04:13

Well, Jim, they say that CM Punk is straight edge.

1:04:15

In fact, he says it. In

1:04:17

fact, he uses the straight edge of a knife to

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cut his steak for

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dinner from Omaha Steaks, I presume.

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How the fuck did you even

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remotely get there in your head

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before you lathered it out

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or dribbled it out, I should say? Magic.

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You know, we got to do an old-time radio

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show just to use those sound effects. And

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the killer is revealed to me. The

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there he goes, as a matter of fact. That's

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what the sound the cow makes right before he

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goes to his great

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reward. You know what your great

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reward will be? Is

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the smiles on people's faces when you

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feed them that cow. And

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that's the cow that our friends at Omaha Steaks are

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got whatever thing

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goes into the jumbo franks, they've got plenty

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of those too. They've got all kinds of

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just it's not right. These people ought to be

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put away in a state home

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somewhere where they can't harm others But

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while they're still able to knock the shit out of a cow

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cut filet mignons and burgers and

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franks and all that stuff To

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yourself or to anybody else you want to

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Give them as gift give people food.

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Isn't that the Christian thing to do at

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Christmas feed people? Feed the

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poor. Well, most of the people you know are

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probably poorer than you so buy them some meat

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to the to the great beyond

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do it before you go there

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the promo code to get the money off. That's

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the way it works Well, then go

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there now all my house steaks. Well, don't

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go right now. Don't stop listening to us

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You do you do two things at the same time?

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Why not? Why wouldn't you be able to well

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within the will then do it then Listen

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to us and go buy your

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Go JCE Well

1:08:00

Jim, before we get back to whatever

1:08:03

remaining thoughts you have about Monday Night

1:08:05

Raw, let's stay on the topic of wrestling

1:08:07

and food. Ric

1:08:09

Flair apparently has a new announcement

1:08:12

that he just made, and this

1:08:14

video is now going around so I'm going to play

1:08:16

this for you. This

1:08:18

is apparently Ric Flair. Ric

1:08:21

Flair... Wait, what? Is

1:08:23

this real? This is real. And his

1:08:25

new wings, which

1:08:28

are woo wings. Woo

1:08:31

wings so you can get woo

1:08:33

marijuana products, woo energy products, and

1:08:35

now woo chicken

1:08:38

wings. Well one follows the other I

1:08:40

guess. Assuming they are actual

1:08:42

chicken wings. You do the

1:08:44

woo weed, then you need the

1:08:47

woo wings, and then you need the woo energy to

1:08:49

go exercise to take the weight off from eating the

1:08:51

woo wings after you got the munchies from the woo

1:08:53

weed. Out

1:08:56

of the three of them, do you think woo wings is

1:08:58

the one that sounds like it works the best? In

1:09:01

terms of not as a business, but

1:09:03

as an actual name, woo

1:09:06

wings. It's the one I'm pulling for

1:09:08

the most, I hope they're good. You

1:09:12

know a hard wing is good to find, or

1:09:14

a good wing is hard to find these days.

1:09:16

Was Ric Flair known as someone who enjoyed a

1:09:18

good chicken wing, or a buffalo wing,

1:09:20

or any kind of wing? I

1:09:23

don't remember. Well you know, when I

1:09:25

was on the road with Flair, we

1:09:27

had just found out about wings. Because

1:09:31

remember they didn't have chicken wings anywhere in

1:09:33

the fucking 70s. I

1:09:36

first encountered the chicken wing when we went to

1:09:38

upstate New York for Crockett in like 88. The

1:09:42

buffalo wing. Normally

1:09:44

it was a drumstick. So

1:09:47

the point is, is that when

1:09:49

I was traveling with Flair, wings were a

1:09:51

new thing on the menus. I don't know

1:09:54

that I've ever seen Ric Flair consume a

1:09:56

wing. We went

1:09:58

to the melting pot one time. He

1:10:00

ate the shit out of the fondue. But

1:10:04

nevertheless, woo wings! What

1:10:07

flavors of these wings do we have? Do

1:10:09

you have audio? Well, I have some audio

1:10:11

here and- Does the audio have flavor? I

1:10:13

don't know about the flavor. From what I

1:10:15

understand, they taste just like normal wings, except

1:10:17

Ritflare gets four cents per unit. But let's

1:10:19

go- This is how

1:10:21

Ritflare pronounces woo wings.

1:10:27

WING! WING!

1:10:33

WING! WING!

1:10:38

WING! WING!

1:10:42

Oh, it's Tom and Rockwood! Somebody

1:10:44

has loosed the nage? Where

1:10:47

is the nage loopy? WING!

1:10:55

WING! WING!

1:11:00

WING! What

1:11:02

did he say like that? WING!

1:11:10

He sounds like he's a

1:11:12

little toy race car revving up. WINGS!

1:11:15

WINGS! WINGS! WING!

1:11:21

WING! WING!

1:11:25

WING! All

1:11:29

right, well- All right, so

1:11:31

what's next, Rick Flair, H&R Block crossover

1:11:33

income tax service? Oh,

1:11:38

that may not be a good one. That may not work.

1:11:43

Oh, boy. Well,

1:11:46

the nage is going to be a big business typhoon.

1:11:50

In his golden years, he's got his- he

1:11:52

used to have his finger in everybody. Now

1:11:54

he's got his finger in everything. Can

1:11:58

we say that on the air? We

1:12:00

can, I was just googling to see if

1:12:02

there was an official full-length Woo Wings announcement.

1:12:05

Well, hold on, let's see what this is. Here's an announcement

1:12:07

from Rick Flair. WING!

1:12:11

Legendary Flavors! World Championship

1:12:13

Wings! WOO!

1:12:16

Woo Wings! Yeah!

1:12:18

Woo Woo! Woo! Woo!

1:12:23

I don't know what to say! And

1:12:27

by the way, the description of the video

1:12:29

or the name of the video is, Woo

1:12:32

Wings is looking for restaurant partners

1:12:34

to operate our virtual brand. If

1:12:37

you are in a major metro where Uber

1:12:39

Eats is prominent, visit dot

1:12:41

dot dot. So

1:12:44

you, Jim, even you could be

1:12:46

a restaurant operator for their virtual brand.

1:12:48

What? I've got to cook them? I

1:12:50

just want to eat them maybe. What?

1:12:53

But I love the enthusiasm there,

1:12:55

but I'd love a little more information like

1:12:58

World Championship Wings, Famous Flavors,

1:13:00

whatever. How about I

1:13:02

got the garlic parm? I got the Louisiana

1:13:05

cayenne? I got, you know, what's

1:13:08

going on here? More

1:13:10

information before we jump in and

1:13:12

sign up as franchisees. Or how

1:13:14

is that going to work? What

1:13:17

is a virtual restaurant?

1:13:20

Are people going to be like

1:13:22

cooking the wings in their kitchen at

1:13:24

home and then fucking driving them around

1:13:26

town to people? Do you have

1:13:28

to give out your home phone number for

1:13:30

people to call and order? Well, they're on DoorDash

1:13:33

apparently in Staten Island. I don't know what's going

1:13:35

on over there in Staten Island right now. But

1:13:37

here's something from comicbook.com from

1:13:41

August 2nd last year, 2022, so

1:13:43

we missed this story somehow. Rick

1:13:46

Flair and Kitchen Data

1:13:49

Systems announced back

1:13:51

in June they'll be opening a chicken

1:13:53

wing restaurant themed after the nature boy

1:13:55

called Woo Wings. Wait,

1:13:58

how did this fly under the rain? I

1:14:00

don't know probably because of what it

1:14:02

is and what it's going to be.

1:14:04

But- It's what

1:14:07

we'll never be. So apparently they announced

1:14:09

this brand and now they have- Doesn't

1:14:11

say anything about franchising or virtual

1:14:14

stores or virtual restaurants. It says

1:14:16

virtually nothing. Do you get

1:14:18

real food from a virtual restaurant? How does that

1:14:20

work? See, we've

1:14:22

got some information. We can call Uber

1:14:25

Eats in Staten Island. I wonder

1:14:27

how much Uber Eats would charge me to bring

1:14:31

me some of the wooings from

1:14:34

Staten Island to Louisville. But we can do that

1:14:36

over there. But the information has not

1:14:38

been- At least I wouldn't have to go over to the

1:14:40

Verrazano. That wouldn't be too bad. Well,

1:14:43

regardless of what Italian mayor you've got in

1:14:45

that borough, nobody's

1:14:48

given us the scoop, the down low,

1:14:50

as the kids say, on who's cooking

1:14:52

these things. Where are they being prepared?

1:14:55

What process is being

1:14:57

done by who on the food that I'm

1:15:00

going to be consuming in my mouth? Wings!

1:15:09

I thought is Rick going to be

1:15:11

preparing the wings from a secret recipe

1:15:14

from his family that I was not aware of? And

1:15:17

has he shared this like the Colonel

1:15:19

Sanders of wings with

1:15:21

the people? Is he going to be personally

1:15:24

overseeing these operations? Hi, I'm

1:15:27

Rick Flair. People think I'm with all these

1:15:29

women because of my money and my championships.

1:15:31

It's actually my wings! I

1:15:33

do something, not just wings!

1:15:39

They're the fattest and juiciest in

1:15:41

town! Something,

1:15:43

give me some

1:15:46

descriptive flavor. But we

1:15:49

wish Rick success with the

1:15:51

wings! Wait till

1:15:53

he finds a way to sucker that person to sponsor

1:15:55

the AEW. I can get two segments a week! But

1:15:59

I did. Do you think

1:16:01

sock face and Shivani and all the rest

1:16:03

of it, do you think they'll get to

1:16:06

eat these? They're obviously barred from drinking the

1:16:08

energy drink on air for fear they might

1:16:10

mutate before our very eyes on live television.

1:16:12

What happens if you combine the two? If

1:16:15

you combine the energy drink

1:16:17

with the wings, what

1:16:20

could possibly happen? Would

1:16:22

that be like the old pop

1:16:24

rocks thing? When you put the pop rocks

1:16:26

in the coke, it'll blow your innards out.

1:16:30

Again, another product. I want to see Rick

1:16:32

actually ingest one of these. I want to

1:16:34

actually see some evidence that Rick Flair is

1:16:36

behind the product. Eat one. Well,

1:16:39

Jim, I promised you a wrestling food

1:16:41

update and that was it. The wrestling

1:16:44

food update this week. Whoo!

1:16:47

But apparently, Raw rolled on. You have some

1:16:49

other things that you caught. Very

1:16:52

briefly, Jey Uso got beat

1:16:54

by Drew McIntyre. Drew continues

1:16:56

his slow

1:16:59

heel turn. He gouged Jey's eyes and

1:17:01

then hit his kick. One, two, three.

1:17:04

Behind the referee's back. He gouged his

1:17:06

eyes. That's terrible. But the

1:17:09

yeet controversy has

1:17:11

been settled now. Apparently,

1:17:14

in quick order, quick

1:17:16

fashion, and to the satisfaction

1:17:18

of the poor

1:17:20

downtrodden indie guy that had

1:17:23

trademarked this a

1:17:25

couple years ago, thanks to the omnipresent

1:17:27

Steven P. New. We'll talk more about

1:17:29

him on the program, but he's the

1:17:32

he and Dusty Gwyn. Can't

1:17:34

leave out Dusty Gwyn. That's the reason why

1:17:37

the Midnight Express is trademarked, courtesy

1:17:39

of the Gwyn and New combo.

1:17:44

New and Gwyn. New comes first. Yeah,

1:17:46

well, you know, I was just trying to be

1:17:48

more flowing with the conversation.

1:17:50

Gwyn and New. New and Gwyn. It's

1:17:53

a new day in the Gwyn household. I don't

1:17:55

know. Is he related to Fred Gwyn? It's

1:17:58

spelled differently. And he is not. We

1:18:01

have found that he is not also

1:18:03

not related to dusty roads. We

1:18:06

came up with that a week or two back. Um,

1:18:09

the judgment day is, is arguing with

1:18:12

each other. There's trouble in paradise and

1:18:14

priest and Rhea are firing up at

1:18:16

each other and not happy with each

1:18:18

other, but they're argued

1:18:20

about who's lost of what's gone on, but they're,

1:18:23

they're involving now the Creed brothers

1:18:25

with the judgment day and more

1:18:27

on this I have thoughts later.

1:18:31

But did you, did you happen

1:18:33

to see any of Rhea Ripley

1:18:35

versus Maxine Dupree? No.

1:18:37

And I wanted you cause I was really

1:18:39

curious how that was going to go, but

1:18:42

I didn't get to see all of raw,

1:18:44

just some of the big moments. Well, then

1:18:46

this wasn't one of them. I've read a

1:18:48

track next to Rhea Ripley. Maxine Dupree looks

1:18:50

like a toothpick with a ponytail. And, and

1:18:54

you know, in the words of some of the veterans have

1:18:56

long ago, I don't think that girl going to make it.

1:18:59

Uh, it was mercifully short, but in

1:19:02

that time, Maxine almost managed to fuck

1:19:04

up the rip tide. Rhea Ripley is

1:19:06

rip-tided like Mark fucking Henry or whatever,

1:19:09

500 pounds. But this

1:19:12

girl, as she went up, she got her

1:19:14

legs stuck in between Rhea Ripley's legs and

1:19:16

almost fucking collapsed the whole thing.

1:19:19

Uh, but anyway, then moving on past the

1:19:21

punk segment, cause that was pretty much the

1:19:23

first hour. You

1:19:26

mentioned Reed and Ivar and boy,

1:19:29

that was, that was a real rip snorter.

1:19:32

And then our truth came

1:19:34

out to interrupt the live judgment day interview.

1:19:37

And I was going to skip

1:19:39

ahead, but, uh, and I did cause it was

1:19:41

our truth and what the fuck, but they were

1:19:43

going to beat him up as we knew, but

1:19:46

the creeds came in and

1:19:50

saved him at first. They beat them up too,

1:19:52

but then the creeds came back and cleared the

1:19:54

ring from all the male members of the judgment

1:19:56

day. And I'm

1:19:58

just, I'm going on. record, I hate

1:20:00

to have an unpopular opinion, Brian, you know

1:20:03

how I hate to be unpopular. These

1:20:07

kids are fantastic, legitimate

1:20:09

athletes, but

1:20:12

they are not ready and they may

1:20:14

never get ready because

1:20:16

when I talked about in the

1:20:20

modern era, it's fashionable to maybe not

1:20:22

have a personality. That's what I'm looking

1:20:24

at right now. I'm seeing two bland

1:20:26

white guys that didn't need NXT. They

1:20:29

needed an OVW or something on a

1:20:31

much smaller scale with

1:20:33

more personal attention and less

1:20:35

goddamn spotlight

1:20:39

for a year or two and grow

1:20:42

some fucking hair, quit looking like

1:20:44

narcs. They're not

1:20:46

smooth in the professional wrestling

1:20:48

movements. And if they've been

1:20:50

in NXT for

1:20:53

however long they've been there, they ought

1:20:55

to be smoother than this. I don't

1:20:57

see natural students here. I see great

1:20:59

athletes that could

1:21:01

probably translate their athleticism

1:21:04

to wrestling, but I need

1:21:07

some goddamn, they're literally

1:21:09

white holes of quicksand charisma,

1:21:13

just fucking white

1:21:15

boys, just donut holes. Just,

1:21:18

I don't know

1:21:20

what the fucking. I keep thinking

1:21:22

of the word milk. They drink lots of

1:21:25

milk. They look like they drink. No, not even

1:21:27

milk toast. They look like they drink a lot

1:21:29

of milk. Drink a lot of milk. Kurt

1:21:32

Angle looks like the goddamn president of

1:21:34

the chapter of the Hells Angels next

1:21:36

to these fucking guys. Well,

1:21:39

they got the girl to help them with

1:21:41

some of their, uh, Oh geez. Have you

1:21:43

seen that girl? Have

1:21:46

you seen that girl? She looks tough. If

1:21:49

she looks rough, I don't know

1:21:51

about tough, but if

1:21:53

she's standing behind a four foot fucking

1:21:55

fence, you wouldn't see her anyway. She's

1:21:57

minute too. Anyway,

1:22:01

then after that, that punk was in

1:22:03

the back with Adam Pearce and Drew

1:22:05

McIntyre said very briefly,

1:22:07

I don't care about your story, I care

1:22:09

about my story. And

1:22:12

he walks off and Pearce says that Drew

1:22:14

is getting a title shot on the

1:22:18

big January 1, I

1:22:20

guess, at New Year's Day or day 1

1:22:22

fucking episode. And

1:22:26

so that's registered there, I'm

1:22:28

sure a punk might have something to say about

1:22:30

that. They've got me interested in Drew

1:22:33

again, I'll give them credit. Yes, because Drew now,

1:22:35

remember we said he's just blah, the sword and

1:22:37

the fucking, this is okay, I like this. He's

1:22:39

a little bit more of a prick now. And

1:22:44

there's all kinds of things you can do with

1:22:46

that. But then punk saw Kofi and Gable and

1:22:49

Ricochet and he knew Kofi and

1:22:51

he hugged him and then he introduced

1:22:53

himself to the other guys and handshakes all

1:22:55

around and then suddenly sucker punched Ricochet and

1:22:57

put a front face lock on him. Oh

1:23:00

my God. Actually he didn't.

1:23:02

It was all sunshine, lollipops, rainbows

1:23:04

and waterfalls. But Bruce Prichard said

1:23:06

he was scared to death. And he

1:23:09

said, well, Bruce did fear for his life, but

1:23:11

that's only because he got his doctor's report about

1:23:13

his cholesterol level. And

1:23:15

no, I'm sorry, but if it was me,

1:23:17

if I was me. By

1:23:21

the time the Royal Rumble rolls around, I

1:23:24

would have punk front face lock a motherfucker

1:23:26

in the back. I just,

1:23:29

I'm sorry. I'm just that way. Just anyone

1:23:32

or does it have to be the person

1:23:34

that he's doing something with? No, I think

1:23:36

he should just goddamn get in an argument

1:23:38

with some random fuck and just fucking front

1:23:40

face locking. Because

1:23:42

I mean, it wouldn't be out of place on this

1:23:44

program and he could say the guy disrespected me. I'm

1:23:47

not going to take that from him. I'm not going to take it from

1:23:49

fucking Seth Franklin Rollins. You

1:23:52

want the internet to lose their minds? Yes, yes.

1:23:54

Just have him walk down the hallway bumping to

1:23:56

someone and he said, excuse me. And the

1:23:58

guy gets a match and he says, cry me a river and

1:24:00

punkin' infants. Break

1:24:04

their social media numbers. Anyway,

1:24:07

you know, you gotta play to all the

1:24:09

audiences. Anyway, then they had a girls match.

1:24:12

And then at 10 o'clock they had

1:24:15

Becky Lynch doing an in-ring promo interrupted

1:24:17

by refrigerator Jax. And they emoted.

1:24:21

Again, I believe I mentioned, by the

1:24:24

last breath of the fall, winds that

1:24:26

blow. Actually, Jax is

1:24:29

more sable, monotone,

1:24:32

stepford wife. I memorized

1:24:34

this shit and I'm trying to have

1:24:37

a personality. But she's

1:24:39

trying to have a personality of a snarky

1:24:41

little girl about 125 pounds. But anyway, and then

1:24:48

Cody congratulates

1:24:50

Adam Pierce on signing punk, but the

1:24:52

rumble's around the corner and you can't

1:24:54

finish two stories at once, can ya?

1:24:58

It's amazing how much sense this

1:25:01

shit makes. It's, you

1:25:03

know, I mean, golly gee

1:25:05

whiz. Didn't we say something about

1:25:07

that last week or whatever? All

1:25:10

one has to do is eliminate the other. And,

1:25:13

you know, then they may get us strangers on

1:25:15

a train fucking

1:25:17

apparatus going where to

1:25:20

make sure the other doesn't suspect the other.

1:25:22

They have someone else eliminate the other. But

1:25:24

then one doesn't hold up their end of the deal

1:25:27

and then only one person gets eliminated and then holy

1:25:29

shit. You

1:25:31

know what I'm doing. You

1:25:33

just don't want to put it over. And

1:25:35

then he promoed Shaky Nakamura, Cody

1:25:37

did. And then Gunther

1:25:40

and Kaiser and DaVinci wrestled

1:25:42

Tommaso and The Miz and

1:25:44

Johnny Same Face. And why

1:25:47

do they have to do this? Love

1:25:50

Tommaso. Miz,

1:25:53

I've accepted in certain circumstances. Everybody

1:25:55

knows what I think about Same

1:25:57

Face, but Gunther, it diminishes him.

1:26:00

firm to be involved in

1:26:02

six-man tags with two guys that are

1:26:04

just his flunkies and not presented as

1:26:07

anybody that ever do anything right or

1:26:09

win anything and they got beat again. Why

1:26:13

does he have to be in six-mans

1:26:15

with...and they're not pushing Tommaso.

1:26:18

And they're not... Miz

1:26:20

is a top guy, but you know, it's

1:26:23

Miz, but why

1:26:26

have your intercontinental champion, your

1:26:28

dominant single heel involved

1:26:31

in these six-mans just because these two guys are

1:26:33

in his fucking group and it's

1:26:35

Miz's hometown so he gets to win. That's

1:26:39

my thoughts on that. And

1:26:42

then Cody and

1:26:44

Shaky. Shaky Nakamura, your favorite

1:26:47

wrestler. He's not my

1:26:49

favorite wrestler. You're telling me, oh boy, you ought

1:26:51

to have seen him when he did this and

1:26:53

he did that and he did the other thing.

1:26:55

He was really enjoyable in New Japan. Back

1:26:58

when people still saw in black and white and steak

1:27:00

was 15 cents a pound and

1:27:03

women couldn't vote back in the good old

1:27:05

days. 2014, that's

1:27:07

right. Well they've

1:27:09

been voting longer than that. He's

1:27:13

young. He's not...you make him sound like

1:27:15

he's older than you. Oh

1:27:17

I expect to see him sitting in a rocking chair

1:27:19

out in front of a cracker barrel. Rocking

1:27:22

chair, you say? Yeah. Cause

1:27:25

he's shaky so he wouldn't even

1:27:27

have to put any effort into it.

1:27:29

He's always going into seizures.

1:27:31

He could rock his own chair without having to have

1:27:34

his feet on the ground. Yeah, but

1:27:36

there'd be no good rocking rhythm with the kind

1:27:38

of shakiness that he has. Well, he ain't got

1:27:40

no good rocking rhythm when it comes to wrestling.

1:27:43

So if he can't rock the wrestling rhythm, why could

1:27:45

he rock the rocker rhythm? Well, they've

1:27:48

been building up this match, Cody Rhodes

1:27:50

and Shinsuke Nakamura who suddenly has the

1:27:52

power of the mist. Yeah,

1:27:54

and they're going to rock around the clock. The

1:27:57

shaky entrance started at 10.29pm. Eastern

1:28:00

Standard Time and the bell rang for the match at

1:28:02

1039. I like

1:28:04

to bring that up every week because it amazes

1:28:06

me that they can stretch shit out that long.

1:28:10

And here's

1:28:12

the thing, by the way, there's

1:28:16

a difference in writing

1:28:18

formats and writing television, because I've seen

1:28:20

a lot of people on Twitter go,

1:28:22

well, QT said he was writing the

1:28:24

formats. Tony writes the form, whatever. The

1:28:27

reason why this was brought up in my mind

1:28:29

as I was watching this and zipping through it,

1:28:33

Bruce Prichard and I would rack our

1:28:35

brains trying to find an extra 90

1:28:38

seconds to attribute to something

1:28:41

in a two hour raw program in

1:28:44

the late 1990s, 90 seconds. Oh

1:28:49

God, can we cut that entrance shorter? We didn't,

1:28:51

the events won't take anything out of that promo,

1:28:53

blah, blah, blah. And

1:28:56

now they can just take 10 minutes to get

1:28:58

a fucking match in the ring. It

1:29:00

just amazes me. But

1:29:03

there's a difference in writing the television

1:29:05

and writing the formats. If

1:29:08

you go to the movies, screenplay

1:29:11

by Joe Smith based

1:29:14

on a story by Tits McGee. Well,

1:29:18

Tits McGee in this case has always been

1:29:20

Vince McMahon. He

1:29:22

wouldn't write the goddamn format, but he would tell

1:29:24

you, you would say, Vince, what do you want

1:29:26

the undertaker to do? Who do

1:29:29

you want Brett interacting with? What about

1:29:31

fucking Michaels? He's telling

1:29:33

you the shit that he wants that's important, what

1:29:35

they're going to do, how they're going to interact

1:29:39

or other activities they're going to have

1:29:41

in the program. And

1:29:43

once he tells you everything that

1:29:46

he wants in it, then you got to fill the rest

1:29:48

of the shit out. And

1:29:50

in a normal creative

1:29:52

environment, then you like in WCW,

1:29:54

I was writing the formats for

1:29:56

flair, but only because

1:29:59

that was stencil. at that point, he

1:30:01

is okay. I want this, that and the other thing. And then

1:30:04

Kevin Sullivan would help me

1:30:06

figure out the rest. And then I would

1:30:09

actually goddamn write the format because they didn't

1:30:11

have time. And I had good

1:30:13

handwriting so I could fax it to the office.

1:30:17

Tony Khan is writing the AEW television program.

1:30:19

QT was writing the format. Tony, what do

1:30:21

you want in this show? Okay. Now I'm

1:30:24

going to time it out, make

1:30:26

it fit. Where'd the breaks go? And

1:30:30

with this, it's just amazing

1:30:32

that they have come up

1:30:34

with a way that people apparently

1:30:36

will hang with watching this goddamn

1:30:38

10 minute

1:30:40

entrance when one guy goes to

1:30:42

the ring, then there's a break. Then

1:30:44

they come back and they talk about unrelated

1:30:46

shit in the back or after a commercial

1:30:48

for whatever. And

1:30:50

then there's something else going on. And then the other

1:30:52

guy comes the way. And now 10 minutes has passed.

1:30:56

He would have chopped our fucking heads off.

1:30:59

If in, in any of

1:31:01

those programs, we would

1:31:03

have taken 10 minutes to get two motherfuckers just to

1:31:05

the ring and ring the bell with

1:31:07

absolutely no action going on, have I beaten

1:31:09

this point to death yet? Almost.

1:31:13

All right. So

1:31:15

anyway, and by the

1:31:17

way, and bookers did both, they both

1:31:19

wrote the TV and wrote the format.

1:31:23

It was just called doing the television. So

1:31:26

they had an okay match here. Cody can work with

1:31:28

anybody. I do not get shaky Nakamura. And

1:31:33

it's, I'm not being presidential presidential prejudicial

1:31:36

against Japanese athletes.

1:31:40

Cody Rhodes versus Tatsumi

1:31:42

Fujinami on new Japan pro wrestling television in

1:31:44

1982. I have no doubt would have been

1:31:46

spectacular. But

1:31:50

this fucking broken down old

1:31:52

fellow, I don't get it. It was better

1:31:54

than most of his matches because it made sense and they wrestled. But

1:32:00

Uh, yeah, you

1:32:03

know, they, they, they went two minutes to the

1:32:05

break. They came back for another five minutes. They

1:32:09

have no problem giving us a 20

1:32:11

minute uninterrupted promo segment, but the main event

1:32:14

of the entire program can't get over

1:32:17

five interrupted minutes and they came back with

1:32:20

five minutes left and finally Cody was

1:32:23

about to hit his finish when shaky

1:32:26

ducked out from under him and blew

1:32:28

the red mist in his face and

1:32:30

got the disqualification and

1:32:32

I will praise them for

1:32:35

their camera work and their preparation. Because

1:32:37

if this had been again, a W

1:32:39

we'd have seen the

1:32:41

referee come out of his pocket and stick

1:32:44

the gimmick and shaky his mouth, but

1:32:46

we didn't, we saw Cody. Hit

1:32:49

his fucking Cody cutter,

1:32:53

pop up, glorified to the people, close

1:32:55

up of Cody long enough for the

1:32:57

handoff to happen and

1:32:59

then he grabbed shaky and we're back with it and

1:33:02

suddenly shake. He's got a mouthful of tomato

1:33:06

sauce and red poison and

1:33:09

boom. So that that's

1:33:11

the, that's also the role of

1:33:14

the agent, a slash producer, whatever they're calling

1:33:16

them these days. When

1:33:18

the goddamn director is in the truck for

1:33:21

three plus hours of wrestling, he

1:33:24

can't remember everything. So the producer

1:33:27

sits there over his shoulder and said, okay, when

1:33:29

he hits so and so he's going to load

1:33:31

up the mist so that the director knows to

1:33:33

shoot around it. And

1:33:37

of course that function would be served in

1:33:39

a W if I don't

1:33:41

know guys like the plumber would bother to

1:33:43

tell people when he got cut his own

1:33:45

fucking head off. But

1:33:48

nevertheless, every Wednesday on

1:33:51

TBS, Cody was blind.

1:33:54

And tried to fight back like Dusty

1:33:56

would have swinging wildly, but shaky beat

1:33:58

him up. And

1:34:01

then out came the creeds. And

1:34:04

they made the save and Shaky bailed

1:34:06

out but then ran back

1:34:08

and leveled Cody one more time in

1:34:10

the aisle way as the creeds stood

1:34:12

dumbfounded and then left. Somebody's

1:34:15

trying to get the creeds over and

1:34:18

good luck to you. Ain't gonna happen

1:34:20

in this iteration of their persona. But

1:34:24

your thoughts on Cody and the Quaky one?

1:34:27

Oh I didn't watch. I was out after the past three months.

1:34:31

Well that's what happened. Alright

1:34:34

you really don't... I'm kinda

1:34:36

surprised by how vociferously, not

1:34:38

against but I know

1:34:40

they're raw and they're young but you don't

1:34:42

see the Creed brothers getting over. I

1:34:45

would not have brought them up in this way

1:34:47

with this look and this fashion

1:34:51

and with... And

1:34:53

what I saw the other night with

1:34:55

the tag team gauntlet

1:34:58

or whatever, the ongoing tag team match that

1:35:00

they put them over like three different teams.

1:35:04

They're not smooth. They're green.

1:35:07

They're great athletes

1:35:09

but they're able to hurt you

1:35:11

also with that fucking flying ass to face

1:35:13

thing off

1:35:15

the top rope. It

1:35:17

just... They

1:35:20

don't stand out as

1:35:24

anachronisms like Vince

1:35:26

had done that in the past where well you know

1:35:28

Backlund looks like a ready to have the headgear on

1:35:31

and the fucking amateur wrestling

1:35:33

singlet or whatever but he also he

1:35:35

was a fucking shooter and

1:35:37

adapted to professional

1:35:40

wrestling as well. The old never

1:35:42

smooth, the smoother knees guys. It's

1:35:46

just the antithesis of a gimmick

1:35:48

with... Like he tried to do with

1:35:50

Furnace and LeFon. Where

1:35:52

their gimmick was they were boring or bland.

1:35:58

That's what they look like they're trying to do here. They

1:36:00

need something, they need some

1:36:03

personality, they need some oomph

1:36:06

to them. And

1:36:09

also, as I said, I would

1:36:12

have, these guys may have

1:36:15

gotten more about applying their

1:36:18

shooter skills to pro

1:36:21

wrestling if they had been in a

1:36:23

small, old fashioned place

1:36:25

like OVW, where you were taught more

1:36:27

of the mentality of how to think

1:36:29

about wrestling, when

1:36:32

it was professional wrestling instead of

1:36:34

sports entertainment, because from

1:36:37

shooting to sports

1:36:39

entertainment, pro wrestling is in the

1:36:41

middle. It

1:36:44

was the middle of the evolution. So it's

1:36:46

an easier transition if you get them to

1:36:48

understand that. You know,

1:36:50

Dan Severn was not a fireball personality,

1:36:52

but he understood the physical

1:36:55

aspect of pro wrestling, right? And he was

1:36:58

a legitimate, one of the most

1:37:00

decorated shooters of all time. Kurt

1:37:03

Angle. He

1:37:05

didn't get the entertainment for it. In Memphis,

1:37:07

he was barely getting the wrestling, but

1:37:11

he had an

1:37:13

opportunity to be around veterans who could

1:37:15

transition him from, okay, this

1:37:17

once kind of was a shoot at the

1:37:19

top level, but then they turned it into

1:37:21

a work and here's why. And

1:37:24

then the entertainment light bulb came

1:37:26

on. And

1:37:28

I don't know if the Creed's just going

1:37:31

to the NXT program, like all of these

1:37:34

other guys and girls that want

1:37:37

to be on reality TV from the

1:37:39

start and all of, you know, have

1:37:41

show business aspirations. I

1:37:43

don't know if it's the same fucking thing. Does that make

1:37:46

any sense? Makes a

1:37:48

lot of sense. I'm comparing them in my head to

1:37:50

other brother tag teams in the last 35 years or

1:37:53

so, and they're obviously talented.

1:37:56

But other than the fact that they've won, not much

1:37:59

has been done. to establish why you would care about

1:38:01

them on the main roster at

1:38:03

least. Here's Jack and Jerry Briscoe. Amateur

1:38:06

wrestling greats from the state of

1:38:08

Oklahoma. Jack was NCAA champion. Jerry

1:38:11

was only of, you know, a

1:38:13

regional champion, but if

1:38:15

they had been broken in Jack

1:38:17

directly from the NCAA

1:38:20

finals, instead of going to,

1:38:22

you know, to Eddie

1:38:24

Graham and Dory Funk senior and fucking

1:38:26

being around people like that. If

1:38:29

he had instead gone to the performance center and they

1:38:31

tried to find a good

1:38:33

name for him, like, or

1:38:36

a butterface.

1:38:38

I can't remember all those goddamn goofy names.

1:38:41

And they give him

1:38:43

a gimmick where he's dressed up in some

1:38:45

kind of outfit and he,

1:38:47

they try to make him a sports entertainer

1:38:49

that would know it never would have worked

1:38:53

and Jack never had to be a sports

1:38:55

entertainer, but Jerry got the concept, both of

1:38:57

them got the concept of wrestling and how

1:38:59

to translate their amateur

1:39:02

talent and their legitimate skills

1:39:04

to professional wrestling. That was a

1:39:07

work and how to get over and

1:39:10

fucking stay over. And

1:39:12

then Jerry later on could do the

1:39:14

stud shit in

1:39:16

the nineties because he understood pro wrestling

1:39:19

and the entertainment aspect of that. If you'd

1:39:21

have taken either one of them straight out

1:39:24

of fucking college and said, here be sports

1:39:26

entertainers in NXT. I don't know what the fuck you

1:39:28

would have got. Like look at 89 when

1:39:31

you had the Steiner brothers, Rick would already have

1:39:33

that almost sports entertainer

1:39:35

ish personality and character, but

1:39:38

Scott came in. Just an athlete,

1:39:40

just a brother. Yes. Very

1:39:43

dry. Scott was Scott was

1:39:45

drier than the proverbial nuns

1:39:47

twat. And yellow trunks. Yes.

1:39:51

And he was kind of the drizzling shit. Says

1:39:53

everybody, you know, he was green and Rick was

1:39:56

the, like you said, the personality

1:39:59

and Scott was. kind of just,

1:40:01

you know, the younger brother big, but

1:40:03

hanging around. And then later

1:40:06

on, Scott's verbal

1:40:08

ability popped through. He didn't have the

1:40:10

personality. Rick didn't have to speak in

1:40:12

long sentences and say profound

1:40:14

things because he was supposed to be a fucking

1:40:17

crazy, goofy, gremlin, mental incompetent. And

1:40:20

people loved it. But

1:40:22

once Scott got the gimmick

1:40:25

in his head and the light bulb came on, then

1:40:27

he was the promo that everybody was listening to. Well,

1:40:30

Jim, let's stay on the topic of tag teams

1:40:34

while we're talking about this. The

1:40:36

Undertaker had something

1:40:39

to say, apparently. He

1:40:41

rated his top tag teams of all time.

1:40:44

And the Midnight Express were on the list. I

1:40:47

have some audio here. I'll play you. Here

1:40:50

is the Undertaker talking

1:40:52

about his top tag teams of

1:40:54

all time. It's

1:40:57

tag team wrestling 101. Tully

1:41:00

Blanchard, Arne Anderson. Uh,

1:41:04

coming in at number three, um,

1:41:08

coming in at number three, I'm going to go

1:41:10

with. The

1:41:13

Midnight Express. The

1:41:20

Midnight Express. My goodness. With Jim

1:41:22

Cornette as their manager. Again,

1:41:25

another just amazing

1:41:28

heel squad, right?

1:41:30

You can't have a good baby face without great

1:41:32

heels and Bobby Eaton,

1:41:35

Stan Lane were phenomenal and then

1:41:37

you throw Jim Cornette in there,

1:41:40

the, uh, the,

1:41:42

the, the equalizer, not the equalizer, but

1:41:44

the, uh, just that guy that was

1:41:46

all you knew at some point was

1:41:48

going to get involved and turn the

1:41:50

tide somehow in favor of his team.

1:41:52

He always had the tennis

1:41:54

racket and was just, uh, just

1:41:57

the, you know, I named, I put Jim Cornette in

1:41:59

there. on my Mount

1:42:02

Rushmore manager. So I guess

1:42:05

his team made it to the Midnight

1:42:07

Express. Just

1:42:10

classic tag team

1:42:12

wrestling. And has

1:42:14

he said anything yet? Hold on. Let's go. No,

1:42:16

come on. I can let him keep going. I'm

1:42:18

loving it. I don't think

1:42:20

you have the Midnight Express

1:42:23

without my number two, the

1:42:27

Rock and Roll Express. Okay. Now

1:42:30

you can stop it for a second. And they went to

1:42:32

Rock and Roll Express footage from 1993 Wrestling Challenge. I

1:42:37

liked that my little cameo in there that I was

1:42:39

just yelling about Paul E. Apropos

1:42:42

of whatever, but no, I appreciate

1:42:44

before we, we'll finish that clip

1:42:47

with Mark, but obviously

1:42:49

I appreciate, we didn't talk about it,

1:42:51

but he did put me

1:42:53

on his Mount Rushmore list of managers

1:42:55

with, with, I'm trying to

1:42:58

think it was Bobby, obviously myself, there

1:43:00

were two other people, obviously.

1:43:02

And Paul Bear was not on the list because

1:43:04

he said he's the whole mountain. He

1:43:07

wasn't going to put him on a list with other

1:43:09

three other people. And he picked me, Bobby, and two

1:43:11

other folks. But

1:43:13

I, you know, Mark was a

1:43:15

fan, especially in Texas. You

1:43:18

know, he saw our run

1:43:20

in Mid-South Wrestling and, you

1:43:22

know, made an impact with him right in the couple

1:43:24

of years before he got into business. And I appreciate

1:43:26

him saying that. And I, it's,

1:43:29

it's his list. So I'm not going to argue

1:43:31

with number three, but

1:43:34

you know, it's still an honor. And

1:43:37

like you said, number two, where your biggest

1:43:40

rivals are Rock and Roll Express. So

1:43:42

you're still tied in. We're, we're still

1:43:44

in there. All right. Well, those are

1:43:46

your thoughts on the other team. Well, no, you can play the

1:43:48

rest of it now. Well, no, it's just him talking about another

1:43:50

team. The Young Bucks.

1:43:53

Oh, fuck you. No, it was the Legion of

1:43:55

Doom. Oh, okay. The Road Warriors.

1:43:57

The Road Warriors. Well, and, and again,

1:43:59

this. that there's not a

1:44:02

lot you can argue with there when you talk

1:44:04

about impact on the business and drawing

1:44:07

power. Obviously, the Road Warriors were not what

1:44:09

the Rock and Roll or Tully and

1:44:11

Arne or the Midnight were

1:44:13

as far as in-ring performers.

1:44:15

They weren't as experienced and etc.

1:44:18

but they were phenomenons

1:44:20

of personality. To

1:44:23

the fan who is younger who wasn't there

1:44:25

for the peak of the Road Warriors, let

1:44:27

alone the Legion of Doom and WWF, what

1:44:30

don't they... they don't think

1:44:32

the Road Warriors stand out the way people did in their

1:44:34

time. What are they missing? Well,

1:44:37

they're missing being there at the time because

1:44:40

when you see something drastically

1:44:43

different than what you've seen and seen

1:44:45

it and see it for the very

1:44:47

first time or the very first people

1:44:50

doing something, that

1:44:52

usually gets over the strongest and people remember

1:44:54

it. By

1:44:57

necessity, only putting together

1:44:59

two green huge muscle

1:45:01

builders that had almost no experience,

1:45:04

they had to be smashed over.

1:45:07

The gimmick though was incredible and

1:45:09

it worked until they were

1:45:11

able to be trained

1:45:13

and taught and surround themselves with Paul

1:45:15

Ellering as a manager and who had

1:45:18

more experience and the

1:45:20

people that booked him and when Dusty aligned

1:45:22

them with his top

1:45:24

baby faces, all of whom were in

1:45:28

various degrees experienced and the heels that he put

1:45:30

them with, that were the best heels in the

1:45:32

business. They

1:45:35

had never seen

1:45:37

anybody of that

1:45:40

size with that look dominate

1:45:43

people, beat the piss out of

1:45:45

people as much

1:45:47

as fiercely and with as much

1:45:49

regularity as the Road Warriors did

1:45:51