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Hello again, friends! And
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you are our friends! I
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gotta do it again!
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Haha, this isn't perfect, this isn't
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perfect for this show, leave it
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in! This... I don't know
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how to begin it now because we've done this already!
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Haha! On multiple days, welcome
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to Jim Cornette's drive-through, I'm the great
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Brian Last. We have
0:26
so much to get to. We have
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done this many times, many days,
0:31
and we're not having
0:33
a merry, merry time of
0:35
this. Let me take
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over, that's a safe bet every time, Brian
0:39
Last. This is numerous times we have tried
0:41
to start this program, this is the drive-through,
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you're the great Brian Last. I'm of course
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Jim Cornette, who else would I be? Nobody
0:49
else would be sitting here still with you after
0:51
the fucking procedures we've gone
0:53
through. But
0:55
the world is burning, there's all kinds of
0:57
news to talk about, and
1:00
we've been trying to talk about it. And normally,
1:02
I get a
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lot of guff, Brian Last. Are you still there, by the
1:06
way? Just speak to me so I know you're there. I
1:08
am still here. Okay. Are you
1:10
still there? Well, let me
1:13
know if you can't hear me, just
1:15
speak up. And the people
1:17
will find out why this is going on in
1:19
a second. But normally I get a lot of
1:21
guff for my substandard internet. I got the spectrum
1:24
internet, and the boogie-woogie
1:26
flu, and it's shitty
1:28
internet, and they rip me
1:30
off, they don't give me what I pay for, et
1:32
cetera. We've gone over that many times. They
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can't ever fix it, they come out and make it worse. But
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your internet, oh, whenever
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you check the speed, it's blazing fast.
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It's blazing so fast it's setting shit
1:44
on fire, going across the desk. But
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for the past 48 hours, we've been trying
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to do this breaking
1:52
news, newsworthy program. And what have
1:54
we got from your
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internet service, the infinity service, right?
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The infinity internet service, you got up
2:02
to infinity and beyond. Well,
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it's been beyond because
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it ain't been worth a shit. And
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we've been trying to do this
2:12
program and you've had
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people out there and you've
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had people on the phone and you've been
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chatting with people and they've come and they've
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done a variety of things numerous times, the
2:23
whole neighborhood, your whole enclave
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up there has been affected. And
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it just goes to show you, Brad, this has
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proven a point that I've been making for a
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long time about this internet, this
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internet fad, this, this craze of the world
2:38
wide web. It's not going to last. It's
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like the pet rock and the hula hoop. It's
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a passing thing. And
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the main reason for that is because nobody,
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even the people who sell the
2:52
thing know how it
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works, did or
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did not. One of the alleged
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technicians trying to fix your issues say
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to you when he had talked
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to people on the other end of the phone, he said, well,
3:06
they said they did something, but we don't think they really do
3:08
anything. They just say they did it. That's
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exactly what he said. Cause I said, I spoke to the
3:13
person and they said they zapped something from their end. He
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goes, man, we don't even know what they do. They
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may not do anything. I said,
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really? This is a guy working for their own company,
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talking to someone else who works for them. Remember when a
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guy was out here for hours and hours at the castle
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and talked to the people on the phone, Oh, they're going
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to, well, they didn't do it right. Oh,
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they're going to do that. Well, they didn't do it right. And
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it's gone. And then he showed me
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the list of all the issues, all
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the houses with issues. And I'm like, man,
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the website says there is no reported outages,
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no reported issues. It was every
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single person on this. You know why? That's because
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they're, they're running the website.
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That's why they don't, they're not accountable. We
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don't know. It
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could be goddamn. something under
4:00
the ground, they had to
4:02
send a signal back to you to make
4:05
sure that your signal was receiving their signal,
4:07
so the signals could coalesce and coexist. They
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don't know what they're fucking doing. But
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anyway, we said because people,
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this is such a ridiculous reason, people
4:18
are going to, ah fuck it, they
4:20
went to Las Vegas. Hookers
4:23
and Blow, they're spending all this YouTube money
4:25
on. They just blew off the
4:28
program. So we have
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proof that we've been trying to do this
4:32
show. Because what
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would happen is that suddenly
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for whatever reason we don't know because
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they don't know because nobody knows, we
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would be talking and
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then you would not, I would not be able
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to hear you. You could
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still hear me. Somehow
4:52
even though the internet was coming in and
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out which would think it would be an
4:56
all-or-nothing proposition, you
4:59
could hear me but I could not hear you. And
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this happened more than once. We didn't get a
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minute in the first time. And
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then we got a little bit longer the second time, but we
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thought we would show the people the
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challenges that we undergo in trying to just
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do a simple thing like have a game.
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Ma Bell never did this to us when we
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did this shit on the phone back in the
5:21
old days. Would
5:24
you like to play for the people, the cult
5:26
of Cordad out there will expose our own business?
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Something they were supposed to hear but then they
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weren't going to hear it because it was scrap. But
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now that it's become such goddamn ridiculous
5:35
proposition, we're going to play it anyway. I
5:39
guess so. Here's that mighty minute that we recorded trying
5:41
to open up the show a couple days ago. Hello
5:45
again friends and
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you are our friends. We still don't have a
5:49
theme song over here and welcome back to another
5:51
edition of Jim Cornette's drive-through right here on another
5:54
day with so much to talk
5:56
about. We really want to get to
5:58
your questions but this just... Non-stop
6:01
crap everywhere. I'm your host, the
6:03
great Brian Last. I'll be
6:05
sifting through this crap. With this man,
6:08
the leader of the cult of
6:10
crap, Mr. Jim Cornett. Hey! Now
6:12
do not...do not bendy
6:14
around a substitution for
6:16
my name. Made
6:19
of fecal matter, you...you
6:21
turd blossom. Hey. Hey, I've got
6:23
a theme song for I do
6:26
you wanna go to the drive-thru?
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Oh, God. Go to
6:30
the drive-thru. See, I was singing
6:32
to you, much
6:34
to your chagrin, before we went on the air.
6:38
You said, we're gonna have a party today
6:40
on the show. I said, do you wanna
6:42
go potty? That is another one of Harley
6:44
Quinn's potty songs. Do
6:47
you wanna go potty? We'll piss
6:50
over there. Potty. We'll
6:53
poop anywhere. Potty.
6:56
That type of thing. Alright,
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well... Hello? Yeah,
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hello. Oh,
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you're not ribbing me now. I'm
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right here. Can you hear me? Hello?
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We got a minute in. Fucking...can
7:14
you hear me now? Son
7:17
of a bitch. Alrighty then. Hello.
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Well, Jim, there it is. The attempt that we made to
7:24
open up the show the other day, we got about a
7:26
minute in, and... I could hear
7:28
you, you couldn't hear me, we gave up, but
7:30
we did try again. Well, yes,
7:32
because, you know, you
7:34
had called or texted or got in
7:37
contact with these people, and
7:39
registered a complaint, and they were trying to
7:41
do something. We thought, well, we'll take another
7:43
swing at this thing. And
7:46
this was a little bit later, and we got a
7:48
little bit further down the road this time. That
7:51
we did. Let's go to the next attempt
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to open up the show. Open
7:56
two, I guess we'll call it, right
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now. Hell... Hello again
8:00
friends! And you are our
8:03
friends and it's another packed episode so
8:05
let's not waste any time on the
8:07
Great Brian Lassra host. Here he is!
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Mr. Jim Cornett! Oh god damn you!
8:11
Oh just,
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fire upon you! I- I- We
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upon your grave, sir, for- for
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that. God damn it.
8:22
For- for that and many other things, what-
8:25
what the people, the cult of
8:27
Cornett don't know is that we've
8:29
already done the introduction of the program where
8:32
you droned on forever and then I jumped
8:34
in and saved it. And
8:36
then even sang a song and nobody's
8:39
ever gonna hear that because
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your inner- your internet, your
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high speed blazing fast, blistering
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pace, internet,
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drop the goddamn ball
8:51
somehow and after
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I'd done all of that and- and now
8:56
you've just handed me off on our second
8:58
try, you've handed me off a fucking cold
9:00
tag. Iceberg tag!
9:03
My hand just fell off from
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Frostbite, Brian. We've
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had some internet issues here today at Last
9:10
Manor in the general vicinity. Oh, yes, you
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sound like shit right now! You
9:15
sound completely like shit right now. But
9:17
you see on the recording I'll sound fine so people are
9:20
gonna think that you're just putting me down. Well...
9:24
He's in love with me and I feel
9:26
fine. Whatever that- I
9:29
don't know. Anyway... Yeah, they were singing about
9:31
Pearl, but yeah, go ahead. Well, she's in
9:33
love, he's in love, whoever's in love, love
9:36
is in the air. Love is
9:38
in the air, love is like oxygen. Okay. Anyway,
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so I was gonna tell you about
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the miraculous thing that happened here at
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the castle yesterday before
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we had all of your internet problems. Normally
9:54
it's my spectrum, but in this case
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it's your blazing fast internet that always
9:59
gets praised. pet it on. We
10:02
had an amazing occurrence in
10:05
the first week of February. Would you like
10:07
to know what that was? An
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amazing occurrence? Yes. I have
10:15
no idea. We had a cookout.
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That's an amazing occurrence? In the first
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week of February it is and for
10:25
the month of January we
10:27
had seven inches of rain here and we're
10:29
like three and a half inches ahead where
10:31
we were in a drought for four
10:34
months or whatever. And it
10:36
was cold and it got down to goddamn teen
10:39
below zero wind chills. And
10:43
then all of a sudden the last several days
10:45
in the first week of February the average high
10:47
has been 60 degrees. It was
10:49
sunny yesterday. Stace got
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the brand new meat
10:56
barbecue smoker thingy do.
11:00
And we had just got it in the fall and
11:02
only had a chance to use it a time or
11:04
two and it's sitting out there. And we
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said, well we'll just barbecue smoke
11:09
us some chicken. I don't know
11:13
what exactly the process is. You put it in
11:15
and you close the lid and there's smoke coming
11:17
out of the thing. So
11:19
I don't know technically if that qualifies as a
11:21
barbecue or a smoker but we had delicious
11:25
chicken with the
11:27
wood chicken breast with the Woody's cooking sauce.
11:29
You can't beat that with a stick. And
11:32
had corned and had mashed
11:35
taters and had a nice little cookout.
11:40
First week of February. I can see
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you're impressed. Yeah.
11:45
Maybe you're just off the air again and
11:47
I can't. No, no, I'm taking it all
11:49
in. You're a cookout. The fact that
11:51
you're calling a cookout is pretty funny. What
11:54
do you mean? That's a cookout. We
11:56
cooked out. It was out in the yard and we were
11:58
cooking. In the yard. on the deck? No
12:01
it's out in the yard. If
12:04
people could see you like if they drive by
12:06
there's like hey there's a couple out there having
12:08
a cookout on the front lawn. A little bonfire.
12:11
We're in the backyard we're not in
12:14
the front yard but what difference would
12:16
it make if people came by
12:18
and saw us in our own
12:20
backyard in our own property. I dare you
12:22
to do it in your front yard. You'd
12:28
be on the news. For
12:30
what? For starting a fire on your
12:32
front lawn and cooking? Well
12:35
for one thing if somebody is looking all the way
12:38
up in my front yard up here in front of
12:40
the house from the road as they're driving by they're
12:42
gonna fucking run off the road and run into a
12:44
tree anyway. Or a
12:49
fence. It would take
12:51
some concentration to be driving down the road and suddenly
12:53
well I'll just stare up a couple or 300 feet
12:55
in this guy's front yard and see if I can
12:57
see anybody having a fucking call. There they are. What's
13:01
that smoke? Where's that coming from? Oh they're
13:04
cooking a duck or whatever it is you want.
13:06
Somebody's watching a Cheech and Chong movie I don't
13:08
know. What do you think? Well
13:12
yes I did. Why are you changing? I'm
13:14
not finished blistering you about the goddamn first
13:16
topic yet. Oh I was finished I'm sorry.
13:20
45 years ago or whatever. They haven't done one
13:22
lately have they? No but
13:25
they hold on. And you're gone again. If
13:29
you can hear me all this
13:32
says is reconnecting on my
13:34
screen and your
13:36
max headroom sunglass wearing motherfucking
13:40
goddamn I hope you can hear me even if
13:42
I fart in your general direction. Where is this?
13:44
Yeah that's what I think of that. Boy
13:49
that was some hilarious banter that we were
13:51
into. The clock is still running here. We've
13:53
been on the air now for nine minutes
13:55
and seven seconds. Can you hear me? Apparently
13:58
this thing ain't gonna wreak a- connect us. Hello.
14:02
Hello. Can you hear me? Work
14:04
on the Skype about all day long.
14:07
Daylight go and Earth comes. Where
14:11
are these Earth?
14:17
Oh, now I
14:19
lost you. There it is. That's the
14:21
moment. That's the moment the music died.
14:25
And there it is. You hear the end of that.
14:27
That one, by the end
14:29
of it, no one could hear anything. That was
14:31
literally, let's take that offline. And
14:33
that's what happened. And then it
14:35
was just a nightmare. The guy came out here. The guy was great.
14:38
The guy said, hey, everything looks great here. Everything's
14:40
perfect here. It's coming into
14:42
the street. We think someone was doing construction
14:45
and may have cut the line, and the
14:47
Internet's leaking out. Wait a minute. What
14:49
is this? I said, really? Is
14:51
this like the goddamn water company?
14:53
They've plowed into the water main
14:55
and the Internet's leaking out in
14:57
the street. How would it be
15:00
not an all-or-nothing proposition if they'd
15:02
plowed through some goddamn line? As
15:06
a matter of fact, it was the cable
15:08
company at the old place
15:11
I used to live here many, many years ago that
15:13
came out trying to bury
15:16
my cable line and cut my goddamn
15:18
phone line. But it was
15:20
dead. So
15:23
the technician said they know there's an issue
15:25
in the area that his supervisor is hovering,
15:27
whatever the fuck that means, in Somerset
15:30
County, which is one county over, three
15:32
minutes away. Waiting
15:34
to start this process. They plan to start
15:36
it the next morning. It should be
15:38
done by 11 o'clock. The
15:40
website says 11.05. All right. Five-minute
15:43
discrepancy. 11.30,
15:46
Internet drops out. 11.32, Internet drops
15:48
out. Just keep dropping out. Like, what
15:50
the fuck? So then I start calling
15:52
and chatting where I get
15:55
a variety of answers and a multitude of $20
15:57
credits to my account. But
16:00
they can't give me a straight answer. Then they
16:02
tell me it's fixed. Then they tell me it's not fixed.
16:04
Then they tell me it'll be fixed in two to three
16:06
hours. They give me specific times.
16:10
Then they say I need a technician. And
16:13
I say, no! I had the technician!
16:15
He said it's not my house. You
16:17
guys gotta do work on the street. Just tell me
16:20
if that work's being done. Just
16:22
give me something. And
16:24
no one knows anything. None of them are even in this
16:26
country. And then they
16:28
say weird things to you. I'm
16:30
telling this woman on the phone, Luna
16:33
was her name. No! Yeah,
16:36
apparently that's not a common name. So
16:39
I'm telling Luna about all these issues I'm having. And
16:41
you know what she says to me? I'm
16:43
so sorry. I will do my best to help you remember
16:45
a smile is the best uniform we could wear. What?
16:49
What? What the fuck? I
16:51
said, well thank you, Luna.
16:53
When I can get back
16:55
to business, I'll be smiling
16:57
plenty. Have they given
16:59
a book of Bartlett's quotations to
17:01
these people to fucking spread joy
17:04
while they're hearing misery? I have
17:06
in a chat another guy was
17:08
like, as I'm telling him about
17:10
this, I'm like, yeah, I can't function without
17:13
the internet. Can you guys make this work? And he's like, sure,
17:15
I will give you a $20 credit. Also
17:17
please know that you, your family, and your business
17:19
will be in my prayers. What
17:22
the fuck? So,
17:27
you and the latest mass shooting
17:29
victims, we're keeping in our thoughts
17:32
and prayers. A smile is
17:34
the best uniform you could wear. What
17:37
the fuck is that? But
17:39
anyway, you know, I would have been saying, well,
17:41
I'm going to take you, I'm going to come
17:43
through this fucking telephone and wipe that fucking smile
17:45
off your face with a fucking sandblaster there, Pippi.
17:48
It was Luna and she sounded like she was smiling
17:50
as she said it so I couldn't help but smile.
17:52
And you know, this woman's very nice.
17:54
It's the fact that she works for a company
17:56
that's fucking up my internet. the
18:00
story, I may try to rally the
18:02
neighbors so we can lobby to get
18:04
FiOS, Verizon FiOS, in the neighborhood. What?
18:07
Pitchforks and torches rally the neighbors? They're gonna
18:09
be coming down the fucking street? Well the
18:12
people in my neighborhood may be people of
18:14
influence if pushed the right way.
18:17
Just well get your neighbor, Chris Christie's your
18:19
next door neighbor, right? He's
18:22
not next door, no. Well
18:24
down the street, you know. He's in
18:26
the area but let's not go into
18:28
anything that would violate secret service, privacy,
18:30
provisions or anything else. This is my
18:32
show. Is it true that when he
18:35
walks down the street he attracts kids
18:37
baseballs because he's got his own gravitational
18:39
pull? Again, I couldn't
18:41
comment one way or another on anything
18:43
of this nature. Alright, well let
18:45
me just say this. Just
18:48
while we've got the most important thing we've
18:50
got to get out here, while we've still
18:52
got some internet service, at least on both
18:54
of our ends, is that it's on sale
18:56
now folks. We've dicked around so long. The
18:59
Midnight Express and Heavenly Body's tag
19:01
team action figure sets are on
19:04
sale now at jimcornette.com. They went
19:06
on sale Saturday, February
19:08
10th at noon eastern. I'm sure you're not
19:10
gonna hear this before then.
19:14
And hopefully there are some left
19:16
if you go now to jimcornette.com.
19:19
We don't know because we're still recording before that
19:21
took place. You're not gonna hear it until afterwards
19:23
so we don't know what the status is. But
19:26
by gum if there's any left, get
19:28
them while they're hot because none of
19:31
these will be remade or reissued or
19:33
others produced in the future as we've been talking
19:35
about on the program. You
19:38
can get eaten in Condrey, you can get eaten
19:40
in Lane, you can get Lane and Dr. Tom
19:42
Pritchard the Heavenly Body's along
19:44
with the last remaining Midnight
19:46
Express four packs with all of
19:48
us, me, Bobby, Stan and Dennis
19:50
along with the autographed pictures, the
19:53
milestone books if those packages are
19:55
still available and so
19:57
much more. And this is the final
20:00
version of the or final chapter of the
20:03
Midnight Express 40th anniversary celebration. We're going
20:05
out with a bang with these exclusive
20:10
only available at Jim Cornette comm collector's
20:13
edition limited edition action figure
20:15
sets that are just just
20:17
beautiful just lovely They're
20:19
there so fine. They're pretty as a speckled
20:22
pup. I Can't
20:24
wait for the next place at Jim Cornette and
20:26
the internet repairman and it could just be like skull-splitting
20:29
tennis racket Well,
20:33
and my internet's not the internet needs repair. Oh,
20:35
you've had plenty of things with these guys come
20:37
you've had more issues With them coming over your
20:39
place than me over the last two days That's
20:41
why I don't let him come over my place
20:43
anymore. They're in the wall. Come on in
20:45
my house of my house I'm gonna
20:47
give you candy lure
20:49
him in with candy and Then
20:52
a suitable application of a blunt
20:54
instrument to the prefrontal lobe. You're
20:56
talking about the internet repairman Well,
21:00
whatever you're trying to catch candy is good
21:03
bait well, no candy is not good I
21:05
don't know what the hell you're talking about
21:07
there. Mr. Magoo, but this sounds bad advice.
21:09
Andy was dandy Candy
21:11
is dandy. That's right Well,
21:14
there you go All right.
21:16
Well Cuban B. Let's move on here
21:18
with the show and it's your program
21:20
and we got so much to talk
21:22
about There's people being sued. There's people
21:26
being turned in the heel It's
21:28
a very good ask this we money being
21:31
made go ahead. There's so much I don't
21:33
know where to begin and where to end
21:35
and what topics will do today and what
21:37
will be on the experience Which we're recording
21:39
tomorrow That's right. We're
21:41
making this like it's podcast mania night
21:43
one and night two Because
21:45
we got so much we're just gonna do two days in a
21:47
row Yes, except for
21:49
other than it being early morning instead
21:52
at night. It's just like that Well,
21:55
but you don't have to listen to this nearly morning
21:57
just because we're doing it nearly morning. There was so
21:59
much to talk about and then we had these
22:01
internet issues and then there would be more to talk
22:03
about and then more internet issues and the list just
22:05
kept building up. Let's start at the beginning of the
22:07
week. I think this may have been
22:09
one of the first things but we'll get everything all into
22:11
these two shows. WWE Raw on
22:14
the USA Network. Oh my
22:16
gosh! Well see I didn't know where you were going so
22:18
I got to grab my notes. Oh yes here's my notes.
22:21
Um I
22:24
think and we'll probably say this a couple
22:26
of times throughout the program but I
22:29
think it's fairly obvious that
22:31
they didn't mean to do
22:34
what they're doing but
22:37
it's what they're doing is probably going to be better
22:39
than what they were originally going to do. Did I
22:42
say that correctly? I think that is correct and I
22:44
think you said that correctly and I think the
22:47
way I said people would react to the Rock stuff
22:49
is exactly the way people reacted to it and
22:51
we'll get to the big pivot later on but leaning
22:54
into it and pivoting the way they did may have
22:57
produced something a whole lot more special. You
23:00
know because again people are now they're
23:02
like well wait a minute what the
23:04
fuck? And you know there's some people
23:06
oh they meant to do this all
23:08
along yeah they're just they're prognosticators on
23:10
the level of nostra dumbass or
23:14
they have sensed what they
23:16
got to backlash and they figured out
23:19
a way to capitalize
23:21
on it but who would have thought that
23:23
we would be talking
23:26
about the Rock as a heel
23:29
in 2024 and his
23:32
real-life animosity with
23:36
the fans such that his daughter's getting
23:38
death threats on Twitter according death threats
23:40
on Twitter it's kind of like a
23:42
low-fat Twinkie but still it's ridiculous to
23:44
think of but nevertheless on
23:47
Raw on February the 5th did you notice
23:50
that law and order goes
23:52
off right off the air right at 8 p.m.
23:54
sharp? I did I've been paying attention to
23:56
that ever since we noticed that the Big Bang Theory goes
23:59
a minute in the dynamite. Well,
24:01
over on the USA Network, they want to get
24:03
the reruns out of the way so they can
24:05
get the high rated first run programming underway. But
24:08
the SmackDown recap
24:10
with Cody
24:12
and Roman and The Rock and
24:15
the whole thing that started the
24:18
turmoil, it
24:20
came off better not only with
24:23
their world-class editing facility where they
24:25
could put it together but also
24:27
because as
24:30
we said, they're starting to leave that wiggle
24:32
room. Then
24:35
Seth Franklin Rollins limp
24:37
danced to the ring.
24:39
He's trying to do whatever
24:43
it is that he does on his entrance with
24:45
his bad knee and at the same time show
24:47
people he has a bad knee because he's wearing
24:49
the brace on over
24:52
his pants and it
24:54
just looks like an
24:56
old man that's constipated going
24:58
to the ring. It looks odd, does it
25:00
not? Yeah, I mean his whole general thing
25:03
is to look odd. I mean he has
25:05
giant shoulder pads like that Midware
25:07
or something. I don't know what the hell is
25:09
going on over there but... Where is the guy
25:11
from Talking Heads? David Byrne. Yes.
25:14
The other thing is he's kind of shown
25:16
in the last several weeks and several segments,
25:18
Cody, Drew McIntyre, are different things that
25:20
once you get past the whole, I'm a
25:22
revolutionary! Like, you know,
25:25
where's the revolution? Where's the vision? Where's all these
25:27
things? It's just you're saying these things. When
25:30
he's serious, he's really good. Yes,
25:33
it's all this other, you know, goofy stuff but we're getting
25:35
more of the serious Rollins lately and I like it. But
25:38
I'm wondering why that he's not
25:40
then... Because every Drew's getting serious
25:42
and Cody's in his
25:44
own way serious is a heart attack. And
25:46
Roman, why is Seth not stepping
25:50
in? He's still doing some of the... Whatever
25:52
it is, but then he will get serious
25:54
and you want to listen. But I wish
25:57
he'd go ahead and... and
26:01
come out and sell the fucking leg and
26:03
talk about how that he's not 100% but
26:06
by God, he's gonna
26:08
fucking succeed. You know, a little
26:11
gravitas to the situation. But
26:15
anyway, he
26:18
kind of tried to come back with
26:21
Rollins, or with Reigns rather, talking
26:24
about his big pops. And
26:27
as soon as he referenced SmackDown, they
26:30
started booing. And the
26:32
Cody chants, and they had the, we want
26:34
Cody signs. And he says,
26:36
well, I want Cody too. So
26:39
he called Cody out, and Cody does
26:41
the big entrance, and they get the
26:43
big chants. And
26:46
now the crowd is chanting, Rocky
26:48
sucks, we want Cody. And
26:52
one of the signs is Fire Dwayne.
26:57
And I told you this would happen. Well,
27:00
you don't have to sound like a goddamn
27:03
nagging wife about the water bill, for heaven's
27:05
sake. I told you you had that sink
27:08
running too long. Well,
27:10
you know, I had to brush my
27:12
teeth, honey, once a week. You could
27:14
turn off the sink while you're brushing
27:16
and turn it back on when you're
27:18
done. You've had practice at this. I've
27:20
heard this speech,
27:23
yes. Anyway, so
27:25
they've accomplished something here. I'm not sure
27:28
what. But then Seth wanted
27:30
an answer. He needs the
27:32
match as much as Cody does, the fans boo.
27:36
And Seth has to know that he's better than
27:38
the last time that they faced. Because Cody's
27:41
beaten him three times, right? It
27:44
was three. Yeah. Including with a
27:46
torn pec, with one arm. Yes.
27:49
So Seth says, are you going to fight
27:51
me at WrestleMania? The crowd boos and Drew's
27:54
music plays. And
27:56
Drew comes out and says, I
27:59
speak for everyone. Everybody, when I say, what the
28:01
hell? What the hell
28:03
are you doing? And
28:06
he proceeds to tell
28:08
fucking, you know,
28:10
the people what we're all thinking. Cody,
28:13
you got to finish your story and the
28:15
people, yay. And
28:17
Drew's got the t-shirt
28:19
on with the tombstone of, you
28:21
know, R.I. P. CM Punk's
28:23
WrestleMania main events. They're still working
28:25
that deal. And
28:27
Drew wants Seth at WrestleMania so he can
28:30
win that title and blah, blah, blah. And
28:33
then so Drew said big pitch to
28:36
Cody, don't let everybody, don't let your
28:38
dad down. And
28:40
then Seth tells Drew, don't be a prick. I've
28:44
beaten you twice. And then Drew, we'll go ahead. Let
28:46
me stop you there. When was the last time we
28:48
heard the word prick at eight o'clock
28:50
on USA network? Well, I think, you know,
28:52
with the headlines of the past few weeks,
28:54
I believe we've, we've probably raised the bar
28:57
on language a little bit at this point.
29:00
Um, but this was great because
29:03
that's when, when Seth said I've
29:05
beaten you twice, Drew.
29:07
Drew says, well, Cody's beat you
29:10
three times. And
29:12
I think Drew is becoming one of the
29:14
best promos in the WWE. But that
29:17
also means that
29:20
if Seth is beaten Drew twice and Cody's beaten
29:22
Seth three times and Cody ought to be able
29:24
to kick his shit out of Drew, doesn't it?
29:28
But nevertheless, that's why they maybe the one
29:30
loss records are not always a good idea
29:32
in wrestling, but in this case it works.
29:34
So anyway,
29:38
Drew's story is it's time for him to take
29:40
it from there. And he just head butts Seth
29:42
and gets in a fight with Cody and
29:45
Cody nails Drew and he takes a bump to
29:47
the floor and Drew's laughing about the whole thing
29:50
that he's created. So they're
29:52
still keeping us interested in what the fuck's going to
29:55
go on with all of these people. And
29:57
nobody had yet. made
30:00
a declarative statement about what, if
30:03
anything, they were going to be doing
30:05
at WrestleMania at that point that we
30:07
were waiting for. Correct? Correct. Really good
30:10
segment, really weird abrupt ending to it.
30:13
Well, they had to get out of there. And they
30:15
certainly did. But
30:18
I mean, the problem is between stuff
30:20
like this, the other segments we've seen
30:22
recently, CM Punk, again, these guys, the
30:24
bloodline stuff, and then
30:26
what we're going to talk about later, the WrestleMania
30:28
kickoff press conference wasn't really much of a press
30:30
conference. This stuff
30:33
does a better job of selling you to want to see
30:35
the matches on the big events than the actual
30:38
matches do. Yes. And
30:42
the matches in between these segments on
30:44
the shows, they're not driving
30:46
away too many people, but they do nothing
30:48
to really get you invested.
30:50
It's these segments on WWE TV
30:52
lately that have been just incredible.
30:55
It's almost like Game of Thrones. There
30:58
are all these different parties. Everyone
31:01
wants the belt. Everyone wants the throne. They'll
31:04
work with each other. They'll stab each other in the back.
31:06
There are all these main event figures right
31:08
now on that stage,
31:11
whether it's Roman, The Rock, Cody, Rollins,
31:13
CM Punk, even though he's injured, he's
31:15
still in that mix, Orton,
31:18
McIntyre, maybe
31:21
right there or a notch below, you have Sami,
31:23
you have Uso, you have AJ, LA
31:25
Knight. You
31:28
know, the dynamic, the interpersonal dynamics they're
31:30
displaying, this is the way to do
31:32
American pro wrestling right now. It's
31:34
these kinds of segments. Yeah.
31:37
Well, and, and as you
31:39
mentioned, the matches in between their kind of, they
31:44
use the guys that aren't ready for these big talking
31:46
segments and kind of auditions to see if people like
31:48
anything about them. And then they can get over and
31:50
move up into the fucking talking segments. So I was
31:52
like, boy, as soon as you get to where you're
31:55
a good enough wrestler, you don't have to wrestle. You
31:58
got it, me. But
32:01
anyway, so we've got all of those people
32:03
as you said going on and then we've
32:05
got one of those matches. As you said,
32:07
the Creed's and Kaiser and
32:09
DaVinci and New Day and DIY
32:12
and the four-way tag team
32:16
scuffle to see who gets a
32:18
tag team title match with the
32:20
champions. We overlook
32:22
this because it deserved it or apparently
32:24
now Tyler
32:26
Bate and Pete Dunn. And
32:30
the top four contenders are the
32:32
Creed's, Kaiser and
32:34
DaVinci, New Day and DIY,
32:37
the do-it-yourselfers. This is the
32:39
state of tag
32:41
team wrestling in 2024. And
32:46
this thing took 20 minutes and Champa and Same Face
32:48
won it. The Creed's looked pretty good in there. I
32:50
thought they were going to win for a little while
32:53
because they were shining really nicely. They
32:55
are wonderful athletes that
32:58
do amazing things
33:00
in between long
33:03
stretches of green as
33:05
a pepper tree. And
33:07
they're either going to hurt somebody or themselves
33:09
before they ever get to be main event
33:12
level talent. See, the other problem is if you
33:14
think back to a year ago, the tag team
33:16
titles were in the main event picture with the
33:19
Usos and everything happening with Sammy and Kevin Owens
33:21
and Cody and the Bloodline. And
33:23
now the tag titles are in that part of the show
33:25
where it kind of doesn't matter what's on the screen. You're
33:29
just waiting for the next talking segment. None of the main
33:31
eventers are in the tag team title picture. Well,
33:34
and you know, Vince didn't
33:37
want to feature tag teams on top, but
33:39
it may be worse now with a
33:42
new mindset because even if Triple H
33:44
is a fan of the
33:47
Hart Foundation or whoever from days gone by
33:49
as a student of the game,
33:51
how many tag team matches
33:54
they have in the UFC? Right? So
33:57
I'm wondering if they're like, what the fuck do we...
34:01
But I mean, they've
34:03
got so many top singles that
34:05
you just enumerated across both these
34:07
programs that at
34:09
some point they could have four of those
34:11
guys break off into two tag teams and
34:13
be halfway legitimate and draw some money. Because
34:15
like even Damian Priest, Damian Priest has the
34:17
briefcase but he doesn't feel like he's at
34:19
the level he was a few months ago.
34:21
They have him doing the comedy stuff with
34:23
R-Truth and working the tag
34:26
title picture with the other guys against these kind
34:28
of people. Yeah. And
34:30
you can call out Drew McIntyre but Drew McIntyre is dealing
34:33
with the main eventers. Yeah,
34:35
it almost feels like the Judgment Day have
34:37
become, you know, the
34:40
middle of the show fodder for the comedy
34:42
spots rather than anybody in
34:44
it except for Rhea,
34:46
you know, being
34:48
a legitimate main event level talent. And
34:51
Priest was about at that point and
34:54
everybody just all of a sudden, poof! He
34:56
turned around and whoosh, they were gone!
35:00
Anyway, moving
35:03
along on Raw Rolls On. Yeah.
35:08
Does it roll on? Well, we rolled on with
35:12
Becky and Shayna. And
35:15
I'm sorry but with all the news
35:17
this week, I was short on time, I
35:19
was reading up on my lawsuit terminology
35:22
but Becky won and the finish went
35:24
three minutes across the nine o'clock hour.
35:27
So they apparently they've got confidence in
35:29
Becky's drawing
35:31
power or ratings
35:33
draw. Did
35:36
I miss anything? No. Okay.
35:41
So again, in
35:43
the back, Adam Pierce is chewing
35:45
out Drew McIntyre for now you've
35:47
hurt punk and Seth Rollins and
35:51
you've done all I'm finding you to maintain
35:53
order. And this,
35:55
you know, so there's tension with the
35:58
top people there. And
36:00
then we get Ria. And
36:02
I thought, okay, I'll watch this. Ria doing
36:04
a promo in the ring. She's pissed. And
36:08
she's good pissed too. She's good at everything she
36:10
does, but this was a, I want the
36:13
refrigerator out here, I'm going to rip her head
36:15
off. And,
36:18
but instead Pierce comes out and says, we're
36:20
not doing this right now. I'm
36:23
going to give you refrigerator jacks
36:25
for the title at the elimination
36:27
chamber. And I think,
36:29
okay, at least we don't have to end and suddenly. Bum,
36:33
bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,
36:35
bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, her music
36:37
plays. What music was that? That
36:40
was the music. Yeah. When you, when you
36:42
see the big bulbous fucking whale or shark
36:44
or manatee or whatever.
36:50
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,
36:52
bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And
36:56
here she comes
36:59
and just as soon as jacks gets to the ring,
37:01
Rhea nails her. Jack flies
37:03
back into Adam Pierce
37:05
bumps him off the apron and he took a
37:07
nice little bump and they
37:09
get in a fight. Here comes security. And of course the
37:11
security holds Rhea. So Nia Jax
37:13
can run across and boom and level her and bonds
37:16
ire. And
37:19
again, they, they, they,
37:21
they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,
37:23
they've come to the formula with the refrigerator where
37:25
they don't let her speak or do anything for
37:28
more than a couple of minutes. She comes out,
37:30
lays waste people and leaves. So at least it
37:32
doesn't get old. But
37:35
if she had the personality of
37:38
awesome Kong instead of sable, this
37:40
would work. But
37:43
she doesn't. She's just a
37:46
bulbous black
37:49
hole of charisma that
37:52
has a droning voice and no
37:56
over the top monster heel
37:58
personality. And then she. just
38:00
flattens people. See
38:03
what I'm saying? Just
38:05
like she flattens catering. No,
38:08
I mean, pass down until Rhea Ripley has
38:10
a broken rib. No
38:13
matter how safe she is or
38:15
isn't, these bonsai drops cannot go
38:17
easy on a person. I
38:20
don't know. We'll see. Well,
38:23
and I'm more worried about the upper
38:25
frontal protuberances than the ribs because that
38:27
can't be healthy. They're going to get
38:29
her out of the way before WrestleMania,
38:31
right? WrestleMania will be Rhea against either
38:33
Becky or... Yeah, I think
38:35
it's Becky. Yeah. So
38:37
the refrigerator is the elimination
38:40
chamber. But in Rhea's home country,
38:42
so she'll obviously be the favorite.
38:45
But just I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
38:49
Before we skip over it, did
38:51
you watch Ivar and Valerie Halla
38:53
against Tazawa and Model Girl in
38:55
the mixtape? I did not until
38:57
I saw people on Twitter sending
38:59
me comments saying, you have to
39:01
see this match. If
39:03
it had taken place a few years ago, it would be a
39:05
candidate for the worst match ever. But now it's just, you
39:08
got to see how bad it is. Specifically, Model
39:10
Girl. Well,
39:12
and the first thing, I don't know
39:14
what the fascination is with Tazawa. He's
39:16
smaller than both the girls. But
39:19
I started to fast forward and I
39:22
couldn't because it was immediate. She
39:25
fucked up everything that she
39:28
attempted and she's
39:32
not ready for developmental. I wouldn't have
39:34
put her on OVW television. It's a
39:36
disservice to her because people are laughing
39:38
at her now. But
39:40
she botched the spot. Shit
39:43
looks fake. The timing sucks. The
39:45
expression on her face is one of... She's
39:49
concentrating on something that is absolutely
39:51
confused and bum-fuzzled her. And
39:54
you can tell. She just
39:56
not getting it. I don't know. Did
39:59
she want... to be a wrestler or was she
40:01
one of these people that they
40:04
got because she was a model and tried to teach her
40:07
how to wrestle? What's
40:10
happened here? I don't know her background. I'll
40:12
see what we can find out very quickly
40:14
but she did the mood of ham spring.
40:17
Ham spring? Did you say ham
40:19
spring? Excuse me, I
40:21
haven't already about it. She did
40:23
the mood. I know I saw
40:26
it. She
40:28
did the mood of ham spring elbow but
40:30
it was no elbow. It was just like she did
40:32
the flips and then she stopped a little bit before
40:34
the rope and just kind of ran back a little
40:36
bit. What she looked at,
40:39
she did a beautiful handspring and then she
40:41
stopped and she wasn't near the girl and
40:43
she turned around and looked over her shoulder
40:45
and didn't kind of stutter step backwards. I
40:48
don't know. I
40:51
guess she was a cheerleader or a gymnast
40:53
or she's a very athletic young lady. I
40:55
guess they hired her in
40:58
the group because she was with
41:01
poor old L.A. Knight when he was sentenced
41:03
to be Max Dupree. She was Maxine so
41:05
she was supposed to be a model. She
41:07
looks like a model. She
41:10
don't look like a wrestler. In August of
41:12
2021, she participated in
41:14
a WWE tryout in Las Vegas,
41:17
Nevada and became one of 14 attendees
41:19
to earn a contract with the company. Was
41:22
Kevin Dunn or John
41:24
Laurinitis at that tryout?
41:27
August 2021. Did Laurinitis
41:29
lose his job in 2022? I
41:33
believe so. Yeah. I
41:37
told you he sent
41:39
a couple of the lingerie models
41:42
to OVW back in the mid
41:44
2000s that literally got
41:46
faint and had to sit down from running
41:48
the ropes a couple of times. They
41:51
had never seen wrestling. He
41:54
found them in lingerie catalogs and
41:56
called their fucking agent to
41:58
get them a tryout. That's where
42:01
his head was at. Maxine Dupree used to
42:03
be a cheerleader for the Los Angeles Rams
42:05
and a dancer for the Phoenix Suns. Well
42:07
there you go! Did the Rams ever
42:09
call her in on fourth down plays?
42:14
Goal to go! We gotta get Maxine
42:16
in here, she'll save us! The
42:18
ratings would go up. What
42:20
the hell are the Rams doing? I can't believe
42:23
this! Call your friends! Well
42:25
if TKO ever buys the Los
42:27
Angeles Rams then we know already
42:30
we gotta cross over Superstar. What
42:33
was her- oh this is interesting, I didn't know this. What
42:36
was her ring name before
42:38
they gave her Maxine Dupree? I
42:42
don't know, Tits McGee. Sofia Cromwell.
42:48
Sofia Cromwell? That's a good name. Sounds
42:51
like a fucking Italian movie star married
42:53
a fucking contractor from
42:55
Massachusetts. It sounds like she should have
42:57
been working for NXT UK with that
42:59
name. Sofia! Sofia!
43:03
Cromwell! Alright. Well
43:07
and her little fucking manager
43:09
Oliver. See
43:12
what I did there, I know my history. Didn't
43:15
he cut somebody's head off? There was some
43:17
beheading involved in the Cromwell. They
43:20
signed her in August 2021. Her debut was March 22nd, 2022. Well
43:30
I'll tell you what, it's
43:32
now almost March 2024 and
43:35
I don't think that
43:37
there was ever any student
43:40
that we had in OVW
43:42
that was performing like this
43:44
after two years or
43:46
two and a half years of training. Frame
43:49
wise, do you worry about someone whether they're talented or not
43:51
if they have that kind of frame? She doesn't have a
43:53
lot of meat on her bones, she's tall and slender when
43:55
it comes to taking bumps and stuff? Well,
43:59
I mean- Everybody's different. You
44:01
wouldn't think that a lot of the men
44:03
in the business in history should have taken
44:05
the bumps that they took or been able
44:07
to do some of the things that they
44:09
did. But
44:11
at the same time, she just doesn't
44:15
have particularly the frame to
44:17
be not
44:19
only believable, but to
44:22
be a wrestler because there's
44:24
so little weight distributed over
44:26
so long of an
44:28
area. She can't
44:31
move the ropes when she hits them. When she
44:33
takes a bump on the mat, it goes poof.
44:38
There's no force behind anything. She
44:40
can do some nice
44:42
cartwheels and I encourage her to keep doing
44:44
things like that in another line of
44:46
work. Anyway,
44:48
moving along from Model Girl, we
44:50
got other things to talk about.
44:52
The Heart to Heart talks with
44:54
the Judgment Day members where
44:57
they're just having the casual
44:59
conversation about their
45:02
plans and who they are
45:04
supposed to be taken care of and
45:06
everything. Is this something that's getting them
45:09
less over as
45:11
individuals than they were before? Even Dominic
45:13
now, they still like to boo him,
45:16
but he's just standing around. The
45:19
Judgment Day went from being the big thing on
45:21
Raw, involved in all the main stuff, kind of
45:23
like the bloodline of Raw, to being
45:26
the upper
45:28
mid-card, sometimes comedy afterthought on
45:30
Raw with everything else going on.
45:33
They may get multiple segments, but it's going to
45:36
be a comedy segment, a bad
45:38
backstage drama segment and
45:40
nothing that puts anyone in that group over
45:42
as being on the level of the serious main eventers.
45:46
That's what this was here because Truth came
45:48
in and they had to do the stagey
45:52
repartee and then they
45:54
let him hang out in their clubhouse,
45:57
wherever that is, then he finds the
45:59
t-shirts and gets an idea. And
46:03
then we go to JD Funco versus
46:05
the Miz. And if
46:08
I'll, I'll skip ahead and be the spoiler.
46:12
JD is about put Miz away, but
46:14
Truth comes out and starts throwing out
46:16
all the t-shirts that he found for
46:18
free to the people. And
46:21
then they have more match. And finally,
46:24
our truth is there and hands JD
46:27
about 10 grand. Now, how, where'd he
46:29
get this money when he
46:31
was just throwing them out to
46:34
people at random when he came out? But
46:37
now he's got this giant stack of a
46:39
hundred dollar bills that he's picked up wherever
46:41
the fuck and as he hands JD the
46:43
10 grand or whatever it is, Miz hits
46:46
his finish from behind one, two, three.
46:49
Money, money goes flying in the air. Money
46:52
goes flying in the air. And
46:55
again, I remain pissed off that not
46:57
a motherfucker went for a grab for
46:59
one of those bills and it looks like $10,000,
47:01
but for me for $198 and $1 bills had to get
47:06
sucker punched in Memphis that night. And
47:11
so truth
47:13
it's he, yes, I understand what you
47:15
say. He's good at what he does.
47:19
If you're going to do complete Gilligan's
47:22
Island type comedy where nothing
47:25
can be taken seriously, he's
47:27
doing it well. But
47:30
it just makes everybody involved look like complete
47:32
idiots, doesn't it? In
47:35
the judgment day. Again,
47:38
they've become kind of an afterthought. Rhea hasn't,
47:40
but her segments now are just
47:42
really about Rhea dealing with Nia Jax or
47:44
Becky or whoever. She
47:47
shows up every now and then in the back for these
47:49
judgment day things. And then she's busy doing other things and
47:52
she was the biggest star in that group. Yeah.
47:55
I mean, maybe what would help them would
47:58
be a good night's sleep. You
48:00
know, I never thought of it that way, but
48:03
maybe if they, if they laid their
48:05
head down and got a good night's
48:07
sleep, they could dream about something to
48:09
make people take them a little more seriously
48:11
and start doing that. Is
48:14
that, you know, as a matter of fact, if
48:16
you go right now, folks to
48:18
helixsleep.com, that's
48:20
where you got to go. helixsleep.com,
48:24
you're going to find out that not
48:26
only do they have mattresses for people
48:28
who like sleep on their side or on
48:30
their back or on their stomach or big
48:32
and tall people or portly and stout and
48:34
morbidly obese people or children
48:37
or amputees, they've
48:39
got mattresses for everybody. Mattresses for
48:41
everybody. We don't need to distinguish
48:43
who everybody is. We
48:46
got to name all these subgroups because people give
48:48
you a shout out to people out there, the
48:50
sick and shut-ins, people that need the mattresses the
48:52
most. They can't get out to
48:54
a normal mattress store and hop up and down
48:56
and test out the mattresses if
48:59
you're sick and shut-in on a mattress at
49:01
home. You need another mattress
49:03
delivered to your home. Or
49:05
if you're like one of the people we were talking
49:07
about before and you need to think seriously when
49:10
you're asleep, go to
49:12
helixsleep.com right now and
49:15
pick out one of the mattresses for people who
49:17
like to think seriously when they sleep because
49:20
Helix has all these kind of mattresses.
49:23
They've got the Helix Elite Collection.
49:26
The Elite is what I was thinking
49:28
luxurious. I was thinking high priced. I
49:30
was thinking supreme. But
49:33
I didn't think about Elite because it has
49:35
negative connotations around the wrestling industry but they
49:37
have the Elite Collection over at Elite and
49:40
Helix. Yes. She's
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a wonderful lady. That
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includes six different mattress models
49:48
each tailored for specific sleep
49:50
positions and firmness preferences. So
49:54
if you're a serious sleeper, just put that
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down on the little quiz. Let's
49:59
say you want to be able to... What kind of dreams
50:01
do you want to have? You
50:03
take a quiz and they'll ask you things like
50:05
this. How do you sleep? What position you like,
50:08
soft or firm? Are you
50:10
corpulently, morbidly obese or are you
50:12
a little skinny, skeletal
50:14
person? How much stuffing do we
50:16
have to put in this thing? That kind of question.
50:18
Are you a skeletal person? Yes.
50:20
Really? Okay. A very bony person
50:23
doesn't need as much stuffing, see?
50:26
But if you're a big fat son
50:29
of a bitch, then they got
50:31
to put more stuffing in or you'll wear down
50:33
into it'll look like fucking, you
50:35
know, Mrs. Bates's mattress at the fucking
50:37
Bates Motel. So they got to put
50:40
extra stuffing in for fat people. Again,
50:42
the point is, no matter who you
50:44
are. A mattress for fat people is
50:46
like a private plane for fat
50:48
people. When they're getting on the airplane, they ask,
50:50
how much do you weigh so we can figure
50:53
out how much fuel to put
50:55
in? You just fill it up. Again,
50:58
they have mattresses for everybody, no matter who you
51:00
are, your age, your weight, anything. Yes.
51:02
Great mattresses. Don't worry about what they're going to
51:04
put in it. They're going to take care of
51:06
you and what you need on your mattress. They
51:08
get a good night's sleep. Isn't that right, Jim?
51:11
You know, there's asbestos in some mattresses.
51:13
There's no, no, there's none of them.
51:15
There is. There truly is. The people
51:17
at Helix told me some of these
51:19
mattress companies, they put asbestos and shit
51:21
in there. There's nothing like that. The
51:23
people at Helix never said that to
51:25
you and there's no, none of that
51:27
in the hearing. No, it's all, it's
51:29
been in the news. It's been in
51:31
the news. You may have seen on
51:33
social media or in the news recently,
51:35
there's been a number of health issues
51:37
and lawsuits related to, oh, it's
51:40
fiberglass. I thought it was asbestos.
51:42
Well, nevertheless, whether,
51:44
do you want to sleep on fiberglass
51:46
or asbestos, either one? No, you
51:49
don't. Well, Helix doesn't
51:51
have that because they manufacture everything
51:53
here in America where we've
51:55
got good old fashioned American made toxic
51:57
waste that gives you all kinds of.
52:00
Once again, let's talk about these fine mattresses and not
52:03
have to worry about any of these other things. These
52:05
mattresses, you can get a good night rest and a
52:07
good night's sleep and just a nap whenever you need
52:09
it. It's there. Yes. Or if
52:11
you need your mattress for something else, if you're
52:13
one of the few of us that have happy
52:16
marriages, then you might need
52:18
your mattress for something else. You know, they
52:20
say many people say
52:22
that they experience more
52:24
pleasant relations on a Helix sleep
52:26
mattress than the other mattresses, because
52:29
there's not that fiberglass. They're not cutting their
52:31
knees and elbows. Again, this is not necessarily
52:33
a statistic we have, so let's not quote
52:35
any statistics. It's anecdotal. It's anecdotal. Okay,
52:38
Colin. Anecdotally,
52:40
why don't we talk about
52:43
where people can get these
52:45
fine mattresses? Anecdotally, you
52:47
can go to – and your pet can sleep
52:49
on the mattresses. You don't get one of the
52:51
kids' mattress for your pets. Your dogs are cats,
52:53
because the kids and the dogs, they're about the
52:55
same size. No. Dogs
52:57
are nicer, and they don't cause less trouble.
52:59
Again, no, but – But that way, your
53:01
pet would be sleeping on the same thing
53:03
that you're sleeping on, and there would be
53:05
a bond amongst the family. But
53:08
right now, what you can do to do
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all of these things and not
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sleep with your face buried in
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a big fucking bunch of asbestos
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is go right now to helixsleep.com/J-C-E
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and use the code. You may
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need to write this down. I'll
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wait till you get a pen
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and a piece of paper. Now,
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use the code
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people spell partner, P-A-R-D-N-E-R. Did you
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But it's actually partner, because
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you're a nerd to their parts. That's
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go up exponentially for there. I think by
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the time you order five mattresses you're getting
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them all for free and ten pillows so
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you can start your own flophouse. Did
54:24
I do that math right? You got to
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order five mattresses to get the ten free
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pillows and to get it a hundred
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percent free of charge of any
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cost to you. I don't think you've done
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any of this right. Because each one is
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20% off and two free pillows. Once again
54:40
Jim how can the listeners get this great
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mattress that after all the fun and
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games of Jim Cornette they may need a good
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night rest if they have a co-host who's giving
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and use the code helixpartner20
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and you'll be a partner
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of helix whether
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you're 20 years old or not. That's
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right helixsleep they find mattress but we have to
55:11
wake up and finish raw because we have to
55:13
keep moving on there's so much to go over.
55:16
Well in that case here
55:19
it comes oh and by the way
55:21
they did do a brief package on
55:23
punk surgery at the
55:26
hospital afterwards comments on his rehab
55:28
you see him in the you
55:31
know in the apparatus they give you and everything
55:34
and he gave the line his
55:36
comeback will be the greatest of all time
55:39
and he's had like fucking
55:41
three or four comebacks here in the last
55:43
two years he's got a top now so
55:45
he's got some practice at it but
55:49
he has made that that
55:51
bold claim so we
55:53
will see what's going on and
55:56
then we got to the
55:59
big celebration for
56:01
our boy Gunther, 600 days
56:04
as the Intercontinental Champion at the 10
56:06
o'clock hour. He
56:09
gets the big introduction from Kaiser
56:11
who's brilliant at this and here
56:14
comes Gunther and he's running out of
56:16
competition. Nobody can challenge
56:19
him. Who can challenge him? Who? Well,
56:23
and then here comes Uso's music and
56:25
I'm like, oh, God damn it. Because
56:28
I'm thinking if Brock wasn't
56:30
a complete fucking idiot, we
56:33
could have had Brock against Gunther
56:35
and now it looks like we're
56:37
getting Uso against Gunther. And
56:41
we've talked about the
56:43
people love Jey Uso. He does the entrance
56:46
and the rig and roll and the whole
56:48
nine yards and the people are
56:51
happy to see him, but do you look forward to
56:53
any of his matches? I
56:56
don't know. So
57:02
the people are yeeting for Jey
57:05
as he tells Gunther how much he respects
57:07
him and etc. and then Gunther puts Jey
57:09
over as a great tag team guy, greatest
57:12
tag team blah blah blah. That means you only had to put
57:14
in 50% of the work, but
57:17
I did all the work on my own. And
57:22
I'm thinking, the only thing that would
57:24
add to Gunther and his
57:26
Imperium Stooges is if we could get like
57:29
Peter Laurie in his prime to
57:32
come out and be like his Prince Nana and
57:35
just stand there and smirk and rub his hands
57:37
together. But
57:39
anyway, this
57:42
is where Jey put himself over
57:44
and kind of challenged Gunther. And
57:48
Gunther is a great heel promo as
57:51
we've said and he tells Jey that
57:53
he's going to beat his ass and
57:55
then Jey jumps Gunther and the
57:57
heels jump Jey. The
58:00
new days save him and the heels bail out.
58:04
So if we're not getting this at
58:08
WrestleMania, apparently there's more to be
58:10
had between Jay and Gunther. And
58:13
so we got that to just look forward to. I
58:16
love Gunther, but eh. Eh.
58:22
I don't disagree with you. I mean, you want him to
58:24
do something that's like a step up already. I
58:27
had no disrespect to Jay Uso, but he's kind of lost in
58:29
the shuffle right now. They
58:32
took him away from the bloodline. They put him on
58:34
this show. He's an established babyface. He was at
58:37
times the most over babyface on the show. But
58:40
when you look at everything happening, he's lost in the shuffle.
58:44
Well, it's
58:46
kind of like he was
58:50
in a position where because
58:52
of the bloodline thing he was over because of
58:55
the way that they did that when he was
58:57
taken away from the bloodline. Okay.
59:00
What's going to be different necessarily
59:02
that he's doing as a single?
59:05
And honestly, when
59:08
he became a single now he's got to
59:11
when the Uso's were a tag, they had to
59:13
hang with the mid-card guys that they put in
59:15
tag matches. But
59:17
now that he's a single, he's
59:20
got to be viewed in the same lens as
59:23
the Druze and the LA
59:25
Knights and the Cody's and the Sess and
59:27
on and on and on. And
59:30
he kind
59:33
of works the same and he kind of looks the
59:36
same and he yeets, but
59:39
he ain't doing
59:41
individual shit at their level, is he? No.
59:47
Well, then
59:49
occasionally the cake
59:51
doesn't quite rise. But
59:54
speaking of yeast not rising, there's
59:58
a transition there somewhere. Goodman's tag
1:00:00
team title was on the line with
1:00:03
Chance and Carter against Carey and Oscar
1:00:05
and the referee was the only one
1:00:07
in the match over five feet tall.
1:00:11
I don't think they changed the belts, did they?
1:00:15
Uh, no. The Kabuki Warriors are
1:00:17
still the tag team champions. Well,
1:00:19
I would break my heart if they lost
1:00:21
those belts. Sammy Zane
1:00:25
is another guy that may be kind of
1:00:27
in the Jey Uso position because remember a
1:00:29
year ago, he was
1:00:32
challenging for the title and people were saying he
1:00:35
ought to beat Roman Reigns. He ought to be
1:00:37
the one to beat Roman Reigns in Montreal. What
1:00:39
a moment that would be. And
1:00:42
how much business would we sacrifice over the
1:00:45
next fucking four years or whatever? Um,
1:00:48
but they did a sit down interview
1:00:50
with him talking about Drew McIntyre and
1:00:52
over all his last year, and he
1:00:55
wants to prove he's a main eventer because
1:00:57
they're acknowledging that he's
1:00:59
the same position that Jey is in
1:01:01
when it was him and Owens and
1:01:03
the Uso's and the story with the
1:01:05
bloodline and the baby faces and the,
1:01:08
et cetera, you
1:01:11
know, the sum of the holes, greater parts
1:01:13
of whatever. It
1:01:15
covered up everybody's weak
1:01:18
points as far as hanging with
1:01:20
the top main event level singles
1:01:22
talent when the teams were
1:01:24
over. But, uh,
1:01:26
you know, Sam, Sammy was Sammy
1:01:29
Zane can talk and he very, he
1:01:32
sounded genuine here and as we said,
1:01:34
he can work his ass off. He
1:01:36
looks physically and you know, just visually
1:01:38
like blah, but he's got
1:01:40
that every man appeal, but
1:01:43
he's not going to be the face of the company. And
1:01:45
he's not going to be at a singles main event at
1:01:47
WrestleMania. And
1:01:49
so he rode that wave
1:01:52
of popularity based on the great
1:01:54
work that he did and the
1:01:56
promos and the reactions and the
1:01:58
matches and the whole nine yards. but also
1:02:00
the position he was put in with
1:02:03
everybody else he was reacting to. There
1:02:06
was their little mini movie that culminated with
1:02:08
him getting the chance and falling just short.
1:02:13
And then he and
1:02:15
Owens were separated and
1:02:17
he's going back to where normally
1:02:21
and for a long period of time he
1:02:23
can be in the upper middle. And
1:02:28
people like him so you can use him in
1:02:30
the mix with the top singles guys, but he's
1:02:33
not going to be continually
1:02:35
on an ongoing basis challenging
1:02:38
for any of the multiple world titles
1:02:41
as a single. That
1:02:43
doesn't even disrespect him or his ability, does
1:02:45
it not? What I just said. It
1:02:48
does not. See, I
1:02:50
can be fucking nice every
1:02:52
once in a while. But
1:02:55
I'm not going to be about the main event. Brian,
1:02:59
was this the worst bull rope match you've
1:03:01
ever seen? It was
1:03:03
the same bull rope that Dusty Rhodes used when
1:03:05
he invented the bull rope match they said on
1:03:07
commentary. Well, I didn't say it was the worst
1:03:10
bull rope. I said it was the worst bull
1:03:12
rope match because you almost didn't see any of
1:03:14
it to begin with. And then with the limitations
1:03:16
and then the apparently
1:03:19
shaky doesn't get the fucking
1:03:21
concept. Which you know,
1:03:23
he's probably not been in one before
1:03:26
but nevertheless. It
1:03:28
was Cody Rhodes and our
1:03:31
friend Shaky Nakamura in
1:03:34
the heavily promoted bull rope match. They're
1:03:36
using Dusty Rhodes as bull rope from
1:03:38
the 70s. And
1:03:41
I said there was what? There
1:03:43
was four or five. There was under 10 minutes of it
1:03:45
on the air. They
1:03:47
started for once at
1:03:49
least the entrance from the
1:03:52
start of the entrances to the bell was only
1:03:54
four minutes on Raw. I was like, holy shit.
1:03:56
It's a special match. They're going to get into
1:03:58
it. Here we go. And
1:04:00
they start out with a fight and they go a minute
1:04:02
and they went to the break and
1:04:05
I'm like, I swear to God. And
1:04:08
by the time they come back, I'm thinking, okay, well,
1:04:10
we've still got 10 minutes
1:04:12
on the air, whatever it is. And
1:04:16
Cody's in control, goes for the
1:04:18
Cody cutter, shaky jerks him down,
1:04:20
starts getting some heat. And
1:04:23
it sounds better than it looked because it
1:04:25
was lackluster slow paced heat. I
1:04:27
don't think Nakamura
1:04:30
was understanding potentially
1:04:32
how you could use the bull rope. There
1:04:35
was a lot of stomping going on. And
1:04:39
Cody fought back and got a figure
1:04:41
four and Nakamura
1:04:43
broke it and they went to the
1:04:45
break again. After only like four
1:04:48
minutes of this thing. And by the time they come
1:04:50
back, there's five minutes left
1:04:52
on the air and Cody's made a comeback. And
1:04:56
he hit a version of
1:04:58
a Cody cutter because Nakamura
1:05:03
fell backwards somehow on
1:05:06
the Cody cutter. I don't know. And
1:05:09
then Nakamura jumps up and whiffs
1:05:11
a paylay kick right
1:05:14
past Cody's head, which Cody sold like
1:05:16
death. And
1:05:20
Nakamura tried to do his regular shit while
1:05:22
he would tie to a bull rope, as
1:05:25
New Jack would say, chained in the bowels of
1:05:28
a slave ship. He's
1:05:30
tried to do the baseball slide under in
1:05:32
the German suplex thing that he'd, well, he's
1:05:34
tied to the fucking bull rope. And
1:05:38
finally, for
1:05:41
the first time ever in the
1:05:43
match, as far as I can tell, Cody
1:05:45
went to use the cowbell. Nobody
1:05:48
had touched the cowbell. Nobody hit anybody
1:05:50
with the cowbell. They
1:05:52
couldn't get juice, but
1:05:55
the cowbell is part of the thing. So
1:05:58
he goes use the cowbell and Nakamura. Nakamura
1:06:00
blows the red mist in his face. And,
1:06:03
but while Cody is blind, he grabs Nakamura
1:06:06
and hits the crossroads and gets a
1:06:08
two count. And
1:06:11
then Nakamura grabs
1:06:13
the bell and uses sloppy kind of half-ass bell
1:06:15
shots instead
1:06:18
of, you know, one good
1:06:20
one. And then Cody
1:06:24
crushed Nakamura with the rope as the
1:06:26
spot goes, where he jerks
1:06:28
it and the things between the guy's
1:06:30
legs, but it took two of them for
1:06:32
Nakamura to figure out and do the fucking
1:06:34
flip, frontwards dipshit. And
1:06:38
then Cody hit the crossroads one, two, three.
1:06:41
So there was under 10 minutes of the match
1:06:43
on the air. There was no blood. They barely
1:06:46
used the bell. Nakamura continues
1:06:48
his streak of being rotten.
1:06:53
And poor Cody. Yes, he won a bull rope match,
1:06:55
but it was, you didn't do anything to help the
1:06:57
bull rope match get over. Did it? No.
1:07:01
I mean, the bull rope match more than
1:07:03
likely isn't going to get over. It's a thing that
1:07:05
really, I don't know, they still
1:07:07
use it, but I never thought of it. They still
1:07:09
have bulls. They still do. But you know, it's like
1:07:11
one of those things that I think made a lot
1:07:13
more sense years ago than now, but as a gimmick
1:07:16
match for a raw main event with someone who's programmed
1:07:18
Cody's kind of finished with. Eh.
1:07:21
And at least with the mist, it looked like he had blood because
1:07:23
it was red. So you tuned in late.
1:07:26
It's like, man, Cody's been bleeding all over
1:07:28
the place. No, it's Nakamura spit. But
1:07:31
I guess that's the end of Cody and Nakamura. Now he could,
1:07:33
uh, there's another guy kind of
1:07:35
lost in the upper mid card. We'll see what they do.
1:07:38
But here's the, and again, you, you say
1:07:41
the bull rope is a match. It's not
1:07:43
going to get over. And somebody's going, oh,
1:07:45
court gets so out of touch. No, any
1:07:47
match from any period can
1:07:50
get over. Yes. If
1:07:52
it's given context and fits
1:07:56
either the situation, the
1:07:58
individuals involved in it. or both.
1:08:00
Which happens for an elimination chamber or
1:08:03
war games does not happen for a
1:08:05
bull rope match or a stipulation match
1:08:07
that just appears on Raw or even
1:08:10
AEW TV. Of course AEW TV. And
1:08:12
I'll give you an example of how here
1:08:16
would be the perfect way if it
1:08:18
ever happened to
1:08:20
get the bull rope match over again if there was
1:08:23
ever because it started
1:08:25
obviously Dusty's fascination with Cowboys but
1:08:29
he wasn't the first you know fucking
1:08:33
person to come up with the idea of left
1:08:35
wrist to left wrist with anything. Whether
1:08:38
it be strap or chain or whatever, Russians
1:08:42
were known for
1:08:44
chains for whatever reason and
1:08:46
the Indian strap match because you saw it
1:08:48
on television. But if they
1:08:50
would ever they have crossover athletes all the
1:08:53
time. If you ever found an athlete or
1:08:55
even a like a
1:08:57
Logan Paul a celebrity or
1:09:00
crossover person that
1:09:02
had done professional rodeo because the
1:09:04
highlights you could get those fucking
1:09:07
bulls are fucking mean and the
1:09:10
way they ride the goddamn bucking Broncos
1:09:12
and all the shit they fuck themselves
1:09:15
up. If you even
1:09:17
had a guy that had trained to wrestle that
1:09:19
had done pro rodeo riding at a
1:09:22
low level and got some highlights and
1:09:24
he got halfway over his specialty
1:09:27
could be the bull rope match and
1:09:30
he could get it over. But
1:09:33
we've lost complete sight
1:09:36
on every stipulation
1:09:38
and gimmick of why that it originally
1:09:40
got over it. It wasn't just because
1:09:42
of the rules or the stipulations but
1:09:44
in a lot of cases it was
1:09:47
the person doing it because of their
1:09:49
backstory and their gimmick and their background
1:09:52
and the stories that have been told
1:09:54
about them. Whether they were a cowboy
1:09:56
or an Indian or a Russian or
1:09:58
a fucking Ugandan giant or whatever the
1:10:00
fuck. And,
1:10:02
and that led
1:10:05
to the match rules or stipulations.
1:10:09
And now they just say, well, we'll put Brian
1:10:12
last and Jim Cornette in a goddamn Russian
1:10:15
death match. Neither one of them's Russian,
1:10:18
but it's a cool fucking match and
1:10:21
it doesn't work. Am
1:10:25
I doing an editorial here or are
1:10:27
you still there? That was WWE Monday
1:10:30
Night Raw. Again, there's
1:10:32
still so much to cover, but why don't we
1:10:34
knock out the WWE programming that we're going to
1:10:36
talk about today? Because Raw was
1:10:38
raw. Good segment or two, a
1:10:41
lot of other stuff you sit through, hoping
1:10:43
there'll be more. In this
1:10:45
case, there wasn't this week. There wasn't
1:10:48
more. But WWE did a WrestleMania 40
1:10:51
kickoff show. They
1:10:53
said press conference. There was no press
1:10:55
asking questions in Las Vegas.
1:10:58
The week of the Superbowl, a few
1:11:00
thousand people showed up for free to see
1:11:03
this. And I
1:11:05
have to say it was better than
1:11:07
any episode of Monday Night Raw. WWE
1:11:10
should consider doing this as a weekly show, a live
1:11:13
press conference like this. Well,
1:11:15
you know what? Cause it was only like an hour
1:11:17
and 15 minutes long and there
1:11:20
were no commercials. And so we got
1:11:22
the interviews from the main event talent.
1:11:24
We didn't have to sit through the
1:11:26
bad matches and shit went
1:11:28
on. This was like the, remember
1:11:31
we've talked about it, the Lawler Dundee,
1:11:33
a special one hour
1:11:35
and in the Memphis case, one and a
1:11:37
half hour television program they did before that,
1:11:40
that loser leave town match they did in June of 83
1:11:44
in that it was just the two
1:11:46
participants sitting and promo
1:11:48
in it, talking to each other
1:11:51
about it and showing, you know,
1:11:53
clips from their various
1:11:55
rivalries in the past as
1:11:57
promotional material. the
1:12:01
press conference like you said, there were
1:12:03
press there, they just didn't ask any
1:12:05
questions. Otherwise it was
1:12:07
people that, as you said, came for
1:12:09
free to the big arena there on
1:12:11
the theory that I
1:12:14
guess it would be easier to
1:12:16
draw a live crowd even to see The
1:12:19
Rock and all the top wrestling
1:12:21
stars and everything for free if it wasn't
1:12:23
Las Vegas. They're used to seeing Wayne Newton
1:12:25
walk down the fucking street, right? So
1:12:28
they're a little harder audience. Well
1:12:31
again, it's something that I mean I don't know how much in Tuscaloosa,
1:12:33
Alabama they would have drawn a huge crowd. Again, I don't
1:12:36
know how many people would walk into a room to see
1:12:38
The Rock if he's just gonna be doing his thing if
1:12:40
you're not a fan of wrestling. That's a big question. But
1:12:42
the other thing is, how much
1:12:44
advance notice was there? Because I
1:12:46
didn't hear too much about this until they just announced it
1:12:48
on TV, it's coming up this week. We'll
1:12:51
find out what's happening. Yeah, now
1:12:53
I'm fucking with them. There was not a lot
1:12:56
of advance notice to this so
1:12:58
people just say, yeah, they said, well we'll go down
1:13:00
and see what's going on. Good
1:13:02
idea if the Super Bowl is happening someplace and you
1:13:04
know that for that week you're gonna have fans from all
1:13:06
over the world coming into town. Good idea for WWE
1:13:08
to go to town and do something? I don't
1:13:15
know that they couldn't have done this in any
1:13:17
other major city in the country. They
1:13:19
could have done, they probably could have done more people
1:13:21
in New York. I
1:13:23
don't know if it had it, maybe that was
1:13:25
the concept they had that, oh
1:13:27
the Super Bowl. But it didn't look like all
1:13:30
the media is there. If
1:13:32
you've gone to, well none
1:13:35
of the media got to ask any questions. Did any
1:13:37
media cover this that
1:13:42
wouldn't normally cover something like this
1:13:44
that the WWE did? Did
1:13:46
this get extraordinary or extraneous
1:13:49
or unusual amounts of regular
1:13:52
mainstream media coverage? This got the
1:13:54
usual coverage from Russell hugs and
1:13:56
Russell smile. And so kisses. Rappel
1:13:59
kiss. Remember
1:14:01
the thing they did in Boston
1:14:04
with Tyson and DX and everything
1:14:06
before WrestleMania, whatever number
1:14:08
that was, in 1998? They
1:14:11
had a couple thousand people show up there.
1:14:13
It was a goddamn, it was not
1:14:16
as well controlled as this. It was a
1:14:18
fucking mob scene. But
1:14:21
I think they could have done in any major
1:14:24
city, Chicago, New York, whatever
1:14:27
they could have done what they did here
1:14:29
on any weekend, just on the power
1:14:32
of their television, their names, they had a
1:14:34
couple thousand people there. I think they could
1:14:36
do that. I don't
1:14:38
know the Super Bowl contributed is what I'm saying to answer
1:14:40
your question. Hey, let me say a compliment for someone
1:14:42
I always kill for his awful work. This
1:14:45
is the setting where Michael Cole actually works really
1:14:47
well. Yes.
1:14:51
He's not, not
1:14:53
only is he not being
1:14:55
overproduced in his ear by either
1:14:58
Kevin Dunn or the evil madman,
1:15:01
but also this is a kind
1:15:03
of a more sports-oriented laid back
1:15:05
sporting hosting talk before the event
1:15:07
show type of thing. He's
1:15:10
good with that. He
1:15:12
wasn't trained to do these things
1:15:14
a specifically opposite way.
1:15:18
And Pat McAfee is good with this and
1:15:21
Biggie, it looks like they might be
1:15:23
trying out. You
1:15:25
know, he's still not come back from
1:15:27
the neck injury. He's not said whether he's made his
1:15:30
decision he's going to or not. So
1:15:32
they may be trying him out as a
1:15:36
commentator, interviewer, personality to do
1:15:38
these type of shows. They
1:15:40
brought punk in, which
1:15:42
led to a couple
1:15:45
of inside jokes probably for, you know,
1:15:48
a small portion of the audience, including
1:15:50
us. But
1:15:52
that's obviously, we talked about it. You
1:15:56
know, punk's already done commentary for one
1:15:58
of these smaller MMA. groups and
1:16:00
he's got background in UFC and he's
1:16:03
glib as fuck and
1:16:06
we talked, we answered the question or you asked me
1:16:08
the question, should punk do
1:16:10
commentary and he's back? And I don't know
1:16:12
if he should jump into
1:16:14
it right away and be on TV every fucking
1:16:16
week when he's just got hurt and it
1:16:19
might get old for he's ready to come
1:16:21
back but on stuff like this and then
1:16:24
when he is ready, that's
1:16:26
a perfect way to get
1:16:29
him back involved in the
1:16:31
mix somehow because he can and eventually
1:16:33
when father time works on him, he
1:16:36
can be the crossover guy. They can do
1:16:39
expert commentary on a UFC or a WWE
1:16:41
event. So
1:16:44
anyway, the
1:16:47
meat of the matter was the main
1:16:50
event thing but to get there, they
1:16:52
had Triple H
1:16:55
do the you know,
1:16:57
rah-rah speech and Heyman did a great
1:16:59
promo in the back and it
1:17:01
was kind of a free tape thing but
1:17:04
basically Triple H, they introduced him and
1:17:07
he gave the history of WrestleMania
1:17:09
from number one all
1:17:11
the way through all these names blah
1:17:13
blah, but gave a rah-rah speech and
1:17:15
there's one big name he didn't mention.
1:17:17
There's one that has always been
1:17:20
considered a name to be mentioned at
1:17:23
WrestleMania that no one mentioned at all
1:17:25
at this event. No and that's
1:17:28
the question I was about to ask you, was
1:17:31
Triple H really heavy at the end
1:17:33
on it's
1:17:35
a new company, it's a
1:17:38
new era, it's an all
1:17:40
new WWE with new people
1:17:43
involved. Nobody here has fucking
1:17:47
done evil things like you've heard. It almost
1:17:49
sounded like that, didn't it? He should just
1:17:51
come out and say, only one woman in
1:17:53
this company has ever seen my dick. Just
1:17:56
one and that's my wife. That
1:17:58
would go a long way too. Well,
1:18:01
now hold on because
1:18:03
we have to think, well, now. No,
1:18:08
I'm not alluding to anything and either are
1:18:10
you, but. No, I'm
1:18:13
just, I'm just thinking of nothing else.
1:18:15
Then remember all the times DX used
1:18:17
to pull her pants down and get
1:18:19
censored. How many of that's true? How
1:18:21
many female production people, uh,
1:18:24
the Jennifer good, I guess is long gone. She
1:18:26
used to work in the office or in the
1:18:28
production company. He's in a rough position because he's
1:18:30
still out there in the face of the company
1:18:32
and the company still hasn't really said anything
1:18:34
about Vince. The one thing about all this rock stuff was
1:18:36
it took a lot of the attention away from Vince because
1:18:39
that was the overwhelming thing on top
1:18:41
of everything. And that was the Royal Rumble weekend.
1:18:44
You know, it's a new company. Maybe get rid
1:18:46
of the tagline together forever. That may not work
1:18:50
anymore. That was a Vince thing. I
1:18:52
believe go, let's get rid of together
1:18:54
forever forever together. We want
1:18:57
to forever be separated. Maybe
1:18:59
Vince. Yeah. We, we'd
1:19:01
like to be separated right when you cross
1:19:03
the County land or Rikers Island. We'd like
1:19:05
to be, you know, the other thing is
1:19:07
in a lot of respects and
1:19:09
there's still have to, you know, still
1:19:12
a reckoning to come for everything that happened in the
1:19:14
past, it does feel like a new company. The
1:19:16
way they're dealing with things, the small
1:19:19
changes to production, the way
1:19:21
stars are being presented, the kind of deals that
1:19:23
some guys are getting structured. Yeah.
1:19:26
The ownership, obviously the flywheel,
1:19:28
the people who are in charge.
1:19:31
It is a new company and you know,
1:19:33
Vince still has shares. So
1:19:36
he's not completely gone away, but the
1:19:39
belief is that he doesn't have enough shares to be a
1:19:41
problem or to hold on. I
1:19:44
have shares in some
1:19:47
companies, but I don't have enough shares to wear,
1:19:49
whether I'm here or not, they would ever say,
1:19:51
wait, he's gone away. He owns 12%
1:19:53
of the thing. But
1:19:56
there are entities that are
1:19:59
put in place. own more
1:20:01
of that. He can't force his way back on
1:20:03
the board. He can't – I
1:20:06
mean, he can call anybody on a phone, I guess,
1:20:08
and say anything he wants to to him, but they
1:20:10
don't have to listen to him anymore, right? I
1:20:13
guess. Wouldn't that be something? If Vince
1:20:15
is calling again, tell him I'm busy. Yeah.
1:20:20
Tell him I'm treating women respectfully over
1:20:22
here. That's very
1:20:24
interesting. But again, Triple
1:20:26
H, he's still there. He
1:20:29
is, in a lot of ways, the face of the company,
1:20:31
the Dana White of WWE. And
1:20:35
obviously, it's going to play into all this stuff with The
1:20:37
Rock. That seems rather apparent now. But
1:20:39
they do need to kind of, in multiple ways,
1:20:41
show that it's a new company, be a
1:20:44
new company. And a
1:20:46
lot of the things that they're doing are looking in that
1:20:48
direction, but they still have to answer
1:20:50
for a lot of things. The
1:20:53
new company has to answer for a lot of things. Yeah,
1:20:56
such as, how
1:20:58
did you tolerate his presence over the
1:21:00
last year when you
1:21:03
didn't necessarily have to, depending on what you
1:21:05
knew? But now we're finding out that not
1:21:08
only maybe TKO or
1:21:10
Endeavor or whoever is supposed to know
1:21:12
these things didn't know these things, apparently,
1:21:14
and we'll get to
1:21:16
that later on, in our
1:21:18
apparently now weekly Vince segment, Vince
1:21:22
had these agreements drawn up. The
1:21:25
NDA with Janelle Grant,
1:21:27
and I know I'm getting off on a
1:21:29
side topic here. We'll talk about it again, remind me
1:21:32
to bring it up. But there were three copies of
1:21:34
it. One for her,
1:21:36
one for him, and one for the
1:21:38
WWE. He never
1:21:40
signed the copy that she got. She
1:21:44
signed all of them. Then
1:21:46
he privately signed
1:21:48
the one that covered him and signed
1:21:51
the one that covered the
1:21:53
WWE and put those
1:21:55
away without telling the WWE that they
1:21:57
existed. Have you read about this?
1:22:00
I saw something about that,
1:22:02
yeah. So what the fuck
1:22:04
kind of Kabuki-ish bullshit even?
1:22:07
And then he didn't
1:22:09
sign her copy of the NDA, but
1:22:11
he sent the first million dollar payment.
1:22:15
And then apparently had done
1:22:17
this other
1:22:19
under the table paperwork to say if
1:22:21
anything ever came of it, he could
1:22:24
produce an NDA that she
1:22:26
couldn't talk about the WWE and an NDA that
1:22:28
she couldn't talk about him. But
1:22:30
the WWE didn't even know that they existed.
1:22:34
And, alright, anyway.
1:22:37
Can you imagine the first time after any of
1:22:40
these people heard these stories about Vince, like, oh my God,
1:22:42
I'll never see him the same way again. Anyone who didn't
1:22:44
know. And then the next time he walks in
1:22:46
the room, he's got that new look. Like,
1:22:48
oh my God, he's really doubling down and
1:22:50
leaning into this, isn't he? Well,
1:22:53
speaking of doubling down and leaning in,
1:22:55
let's get finished with Triple H because
1:22:57
he did the all new thing, uh,
1:22:59
numerously. And then did
1:23:02
you notice the
1:23:05
dramatic milk that
1:23:08
he did for his, are
1:23:11
you ready? Are you ready? And
1:23:14
the dramatic, it just looked like he
1:23:16
had, it looked like he was
1:23:18
Mitch McConnell from a few months ago. He just froze
1:23:21
up at the press conference. It was just standing there.
1:23:23
He was dramatic milking, but the people that came didn't
1:23:25
know what he was milking. And
1:23:27
in the, are you ready? Was it
1:23:29
get tepid response
1:23:32
and you ain't
1:23:34
seen nothing yet got. So,
1:23:38
whenever someone says you ain't seen nothing yet, it's like the
1:23:40
last time you see him on TV or they're gone like
1:23:42
two weeks later. Roddy, I did that
1:23:44
once at the Hall of Fame. You ain't
1:23:47
seen nothing yet. Then like we never saw
1:23:49
him again. And besides the reason why that
1:23:51
line is famous was because it came right
1:23:53
after people had seen the first sound
1:23:56
emotion fucking picture scene.
1:24:00
And they really hadn't seen anything
1:24:03
before that really. But
1:24:05
now we've all seen a lot
1:24:07
of something. So you
1:24:10
can't really just say that, just bandy that
1:24:12
phrase. You ain't seen nothing yet. Yeah, we've
1:24:14
seen way too much shit by now. Sound,
1:24:17
that was a big fucking deal. Now we've
1:24:19
been bombarded. Ain't read nothing yet. Wait,
1:24:21
wait, wait, we're going to read next. Yes.
1:24:25
So I know they brought
1:24:27
Bianca out and they
1:24:29
did some other stuff, but I had to skip to
1:24:31
the main event business. Are you mad
1:24:34
at me because I missed out on Rhea
1:24:36
and Becky arguing with each other? No, it was
1:24:38
all right. But I think everyone was
1:24:40
kind of tuning in for the same thing and this was
1:24:43
kind of the stuff leading up to it. But it was
1:24:45
one hour, so it kind of all worked and it wasn't
1:24:47
anything yet. I watched it. I didn't leave.
1:24:49
Yeah. If it was a two-hour thing, I may
1:24:52
not have, but it was good. I
1:24:54
like them doing this. It's so much better
1:24:57
than just doing these weird segments on Raw.
1:25:00
Them face to face on a stage works better
1:25:02
sometimes than doing prearranged stuff in a
1:25:04
ring. So I thought this was good. Well,
1:25:07
then finally, we got to what
1:25:10
we had all been waiting for, the main
1:25:13
event of the main event, the main event
1:25:15
of the press conference to determine the main
1:25:17
event, even though there was
1:25:19
no press conferring. Seth
1:25:22
comes out and he calls out
1:25:24
Cody to make
1:25:26
his decision that he's been demanding
1:25:28
and he gets Roman instead. And
1:25:32
there's Seth and Roman go face to
1:25:34
face. And I was thinking to this
1:25:36
point, Plummer Moxley must be ready to
1:25:38
jump off the bridge between Kentucky and
1:25:40
Ohio. No way. I'm going
1:25:42
face to face with Hachicero. He
1:25:45
was in the group with these
1:25:48
two guys. And now these two
1:25:50
guys are the
1:25:52
two standard bearers of the biggest
1:25:55
company in the world. And the
1:25:57
Plummer is having bad matches with
1:25:59
fucking. outlaw talent on the B
1:26:02
show. But I get to sit next
1:26:04
to my wife on the plane. In fact, she doesn't
1:26:06
take her eyes off me the whole time. Dope.
1:26:11
I mean, that's dope that he gets to do that.
1:26:13
I'm not talking about that's what she might be looking
1:26:15
for. I don't want anyone to misconstrue that. No
1:26:19
one was construing that. Well,
1:26:23
anyway, so Roman. Yeah,
1:26:34
mother. All right. Anyway,
1:26:39
so then Roman
1:26:42
says, Hey, you know what? Cody Rhodes is
1:26:44
like a lot of people where they hesitate.
1:26:47
The moment passes. It's my
1:26:49
decision now. And
1:26:52
I choose the
1:26:54
rock and the
1:26:56
fans boo. I'm of course, I'm there.
1:26:58
They took more time than this, but I'm getting to the
1:27:00
meat of the matter. Roman
1:27:03
again, it cuts a great promo and
1:27:05
he seems so natural, but
1:27:07
he's, he's, they've already slept off Cody and
1:27:09
now it's he, I choose the rock. I'm
1:27:12
going to fight the rock and
1:27:14
the fans boo and the rock music
1:27:17
plays and the fans boo the rock,
1:27:21
but you could tell in this one, the,
1:27:24
here's the thing. The
1:27:27
reason why that we believe that this
1:27:30
was not their original plan besides the fact
1:27:33
that it's pretty obvious it wasn't their original
1:27:35
plan before punk got
1:27:37
hurt, before Brock became a goddamn
1:27:40
pariah, before the
1:27:42
rock to say he was going to get
1:27:44
this $30 million and decided, Hey, I can
1:27:46
save the day, whatever. They
1:27:49
were going to go with rock and or with
1:27:51
Roman and Cody and
1:27:54
that. Damn punk. Yes.
1:27:59
And the reason. that you
1:28:01
can point back to, they have
1:28:03
done a masterful pivot. The pivoting
1:28:05
is about to begin here. But
1:28:09
the only thing that they couldn't wipe out
1:28:11
completely, they may have even left the wiggle
1:28:13
room on purpose. I don't know. But
1:28:17
the only thing they can't wipe out completely
1:28:19
that was set on live TV was
1:28:22
when Cody said, I am going to finish
1:28:24
the story but not
1:28:26
at WrestleMania. And
1:28:30
now they can... I
1:28:33
think they're ignoring that completely or if they
1:28:35
don't, they might
1:28:37
try to close that loophole
1:28:39
up with saying, well, it's not going to
1:28:41
be completely finished or whatever the fuck. But
1:28:44
it looks pretty obvious that's what they were
1:28:46
going to do until the backlash made them
1:28:49
rethink their strategy. And then I
1:28:52
think the rock with
1:28:54
some egg on his face tried
1:28:58
to turn as the
1:29:00
person whose name we're not allowed to speak
1:29:02
anymore used to say, turn a negative into
1:29:04
a positive and figure
1:29:07
out a way where he can again say,
1:29:09
well, because you know he had heavy input
1:29:11
in this. So
1:29:13
he's probably tried to figure out the way, well, we
1:29:16
can do it like this and it's
1:29:20
like we meant to do
1:29:22
it all along and I'll
1:29:24
be a heel because
1:29:26
now he gets a chance to... I
1:29:30
mean every great star, actor, wrestling
1:29:32
star, whatever at one point wants
1:29:34
to be the villain. So
1:29:36
he gets to do that but
1:29:38
it wasn't what they were originally
1:29:41
expectifying. No, we'll
1:29:43
go into the different theories later on
1:29:45
but they did hear what the smartest
1:29:47
thing to do for professional wrestling is
1:29:49
lean into what's working. Despite
1:29:52
and this is something that WWE traditionally has
1:29:54
not done well. They've ignored
1:29:56
fan reaction because they have a story they want
1:29:58
to get to their way. They.
1:30:01
Leaned into. What?
1:30:03
Was. I. Mean, as hot
1:30:05
a wrestling shatter online as there was. I
1:30:07
mean, the interested in this stuff blew up.
1:30:10
So. They could have screwed it up. Instead,
1:30:12
they made everything better. On.
1:30:15
This event of Wrestlemania take off. I
1:30:19
mean, I'll let you go back to reviewing it,
1:30:21
but. They. Leaned into it a pivoted.
1:30:23
And. They did everything right. Where.
1:30:26
You could tell that rock was coming
1:30:28
out with a completely different objective because
1:30:30
of the expressed on his face and
1:30:32
the way he walked out. On.
1:30:35
This one as opposed to. The.
1:30:38
Previous: What of. As
1:30:40
he but as he appeared twice now.
1:30:42
Surprise Pops The to Surprise Pops. Yeah,
1:30:44
yeah, work at all. Said: this wasn't
1:30:46
even a real. It
1:30:49
I will say a real crowd but this
1:30:51
wasn't a. Good.
1:30:53
Ticket purchasing crowd at a house show or
1:30:55
Tv taping this was last minute thing. Put
1:30:58
together their beds and there were a lot
1:31:00
of rock Chance more than there were when
1:31:02
the ticket purchasing patrons were involved. So.
1:31:06
You. couldn't get of you can do of we
1:31:08
you know. Fair
1:31:10
comparison. But just his.
1:31:13
As. Howard think will bless him. You say
1:31:15
his demeanor. The. expression on
1:31:17
his face. His. Body.
1:31:20
Language: The way walked moved,
1:31:22
From. The start when he came out. And.
1:31:25
The way he was reacting to the booze.
1:31:29
You could tell that he was out
1:31:31
there. Gave his
1:31:33
objective was to he knew you'd go
1:31:36
slap code interface. He wanted him to
1:31:38
boo but he wanted. To
1:31:40
show that he was getting more and more.
1:31:43
Ticked off by this disrespect that he
1:31:45
was get not only from the people,
1:31:47
but then. When. It came
1:31:49
from Cody. His. His motivation
1:31:52
if he's done the acting lessons
1:31:54
right, That was his motivation for
1:31:56
his character. But.
1:31:58
It. He did a great. The bit
1:32:00
because last week. He. Came out
1:32:02
or showed his arm on the camera on
1:32:04
on the handheld. We had goose bumps from
1:32:06
the cheers of all the people. And.
1:32:09
Now they're booing him. And
1:32:11
he's getting surly about. It. Is
1:32:14
this was when they had to.
1:32:17
Between. Last Friday night. And
1:32:19
water and the stuff that happened over
1:32:21
the weekend have been Monday's reactions. They
1:32:24
had put this together. And
1:32:27
now this a new this is what
1:32:29
he had fucking do an. Wherever.
1:32:31
They're gone from here. As you said, a lot
1:32:34
better. Fucking. Than we thought we were
1:32:36
gonna get. We probably were going to get. And
1:32:39
the people were chanting. Are
1:32:42
you know what we want? Cody? And
1:32:44
in there, but there be a. A
1:32:47
smaller. You. Know response
1:32:50
We want Cody. Cody sucks
1:32:52
way while ago. acre and
1:32:54
one guy and about rocky.
1:32:56
Rocky. Some. Vog and drunk.
1:32:59
And but is it? It went at a
1:33:01
snail's pace for a while because rock was
1:33:03
letting the people react and just milk in
1:33:06
it. And. The.
1:33:09
You know, he asked if. The. People
1:33:11
Will Rock vs. Roman Reigns be the
1:33:13
biggest match ever and they booed. Over
1:33:16
Iraq. Love the passion. Etti
1:33:19
try to talk again they starts and
1:33:21
we want cody. And
1:33:23
that's when he is introduces everybody to
1:33:25
the. Cody. Cry Babies!
1:33:27
Go! There is a some segment of
1:33:30
the audience right that that likes code.
1:33:32
He introduced their phrase on Pat Mcafee
1:33:34
show where he tunnel when he'll and.
1:33:37
Was. Last year and a little bit somewhat
1:33:39
and character at the fancy Cosm. The.
1:33:41
Cody. Cry Babies! They
1:33:44
have enough for most creative thing but he's
1:33:46
an anabolic asshole what he expect that are
1:33:48
you there. But. He had the work.
1:33:50
There were them, yet Nick com with many
1:33:52
pointed them out. So they're leaning into the
1:33:54
idea that here's the ruff. the leading into
1:33:56
reality is the riots. And. All of
1:33:59
his influence and all. Flippers and
1:34:01
Stooges all getting hooked up there, Weaning
1:34:03
India and of smart. And.
1:34:06
Well and boy, by the time we had to smack
1:34:08
down. A but
1:34:11
does it the and then that's when.
1:34:14
He. Popped the family tree up on
1:34:16
the screen and the crowd started worrying
1:34:18
the wrong. Gonna blue Driven by the
1:34:20
great a who would have ever thought.
1:34:23
But. He worked with it. Because.
1:34:27
They're They're quick. wins. Do. And.
1:34:30
The tree pops up on the
1:34:32
screen and he said there's only
1:34:34
one royal Family and professional wrestling.
1:34:38
And. A They showed the lineage where
1:34:40
his and Romans grandfather were blood brothers. A
1:34:42
wet when did? When did we ever heard
1:34:44
that before? Have you heard that. Beginning.
1:34:47
Of a story I always heard. Alpha and Seeking
1:34:49
are fans of Peter. My V and I went
1:34:51
to the Cow Palace. We. S: Did
1:34:53
you ever hear that their grandfathers made a
1:34:55
blood oath? Know. Oh
1:34:59
goodness I don't even notice was never my
1:35:01
of on their he's really the person should
1:35:03
be off right? because he was a one
1:35:05
of it's was Peter my Vienna become. Peter.
1:35:08
My Via. Neff. Was not
1:35:10
invited. Fab for the people. Now
1:35:12
we've gone for the younger listeners. We're
1:35:14
we're just speaking gibberish now. And.
1:35:17
Taken at one at a time offer and
1:35:19
seek out on a why. We're.
1:35:22
To Samoan fans in the Cow
1:35:24
Palace days same Cisco in mid
1:35:26
sixties late say whatever it was
1:35:28
that were so. Not.
1:35:30
Only bad ass but also such huge
1:35:33
fans of Chief Peter My via. That.
1:35:36
They would try to beat the shit and succeed
1:35:38
in beating the shit out of the heels. On.
1:35:41
The way back from the fuck and
1:35:43
matches after hot finishes and. As
1:35:46
so finally they had a smart them up
1:35:48
and and break him into the business often
1:35:50
seek it to keep. I'm from Guillen the
1:35:52
fuck and boy for your majesty Wrestle Peter
1:35:54
my the and especially the ring as Giants
1:35:56
modes and punched in used to yellow Room.
1:35:59
And somebody look at me, look at a
1:36:01
picture of what often seek a look like
1:36:03
in Nineteen Seventy Two or whatever instead of
1:36:05
today and figure out what that would have
1:36:08
been like. An Peter
1:36:10
My via. Whose. Real
1:36:12
name was on the family tree
1:36:14
was of. Funny. Know
1:36:17
Anderson correct? Threat.
1:36:19
And. But. When
1:36:21
he got into wrestling their, it only been
1:36:23
one. Really? Of them
1:36:26
sumo wrestler of any kind of
1:36:28
fame of who had been ness
1:36:30
my var. Spells, Slightly
1:36:32
differently, but people who named Peter my
1:36:35
via peter my via did not spell
1:36:37
it. And it became my
1:36:39
via and he got. Much. More
1:36:41
over anyway. And than that was when you
1:36:43
thought of. A Samoan and
1:36:46
wrestling from the early sixties on. You.
1:36:49
Thought of Peter My via. And.
1:36:51
Apparently now. Maybe.
1:36:55
As a condition of late may be my be
1:36:57
A went to. Often seek his
1:36:59
father and said a. L
1:37:02
train these fucking kids of years and
1:37:04
make money into wrestling business. If they
1:37:06
won't kill. All. Of our
1:37:09
heels. And you and I can
1:37:11
be blood brothers. It. Maybe they also
1:37:13
left on twenty of Soul Mans kids
1:37:15
from the ah lineage of their. Evil
1:37:18
or whatever. There was a many many
1:37:20
illegitimate so should have Rocky Johnson all
1:37:22
over the plant. Legitimate heir. There.
1:37:25
Were there was never any complete proof
1:37:27
of that was there are other than
1:37:29
Dna and and know nothing. Will
1:37:31
know you know better but he will it
1:37:33
ever room on the giant tightened drawn but
1:37:35
nevertheless the to good time so the all
1:37:37
know why he getting away from my via
1:37:40
branches are getting away from the reality of
1:37:42
it. It was a good. For. The
1:37:44
way things went. And. Kind of
1:37:46
the rock leaning into the Will Smith thing of
1:37:48
don't say anything about my family are all slap
1:37:50
you Yeah. It. Made sense because you had
1:37:52
to get some the rock and roman being at
1:37:55
each other. To. Them being. On.
1:37:57
The same side and it was. N
1:38:00
N. that's the thing is, there was so
1:38:02
many names there and you know you saw
1:38:04
enough of them. If you freeze frames it,
1:38:06
I'm sure a bunch of the video technicians
1:38:08
out there dead and tried to read. It
1:38:10
was legitimate in terms of not only a
1:38:12
lot of the. Are all
1:38:15
of the wrestlers are wrestling. Connected
1:38:17
family members, but just them. The
1:38:19
rest of the family members not
1:38:21
including everybody as you mentioned, but.
1:38:24
The. Ignore the official ones. And
1:38:27
down at the bottom was Jacob thought to. That.
1:38:29
Was interesting a day. Include know there's no because
1:38:31
there were names that we're not on. they're. Not.
1:38:34
Everyone's name who has been in wrestling from As
1:38:36
and Wales? I was on there. Aren't.
1:38:39
As i couldn't find a i didn't
1:38:41
get a shot of everything was maneuver
1:38:43
he everybody were from ah new my
1:38:45
favorite of i always have soldering one.
1:38:47
Why does. I. Did the
1:38:49
Alice.us so I doubt it. shadow but Jake
1:38:51
of that to was pretty prominent was towards
1:38:53
the bottom so was almost close to the
1:38:55
yeah. Wear. Them. The. Head of
1:38:57
the person talking in front of it would be. He's.
1:39:00
A free agent. A guest book of
1:39:02
these open. I'm out. And. They're
1:39:04
saying that he wants to sign somewhere. And.
1:39:07
He can work. For a boy,
1:39:10
howdy? But.
1:39:12
Anyway so new ownership may not
1:39:14
care about legal issues of with
1:39:16
Vince State I'm you have see
1:39:18
as funny or reprobate on their
1:39:20
roster. Don't a yes road including
1:39:22
the day know? Why didn't you
1:39:24
know a hottie come air. Power
1:39:27
Slap. Her. No problem.
1:39:29
Air. so. Anyway,
1:39:32
but didn't. The. Rock.
1:39:35
Vs. Roman Reigns is the biggest Wrestlemania
1:39:37
match ever. As what the Rock is, Say
1:39:40
it. If you don't think that it doesn't
1:39:42
matter what you think. Blah.
1:39:45
Blah blah and. The.
1:39:47
Rock and Roman Reigns do the
1:39:49
handshake and and a slight hug.
1:39:52
And. Then suddenly Cody would know music and
1:39:55
no introduction Toadies is comes out on stage
1:39:57
is not are not. This. Is
1:39:59
bullshit. It. This. Is
1:40:01
bullshit and gets a huge rock
1:40:03
and pop. An.
1:40:07
And now suddenly that Cody has come out
1:40:09
in his address and I'm rock switches over
1:40:11
It is Dan and on a side with
1:40:13
Roman Reigns. Paul Heyman. And.
1:40:16
Cody fires up as a the
1:40:18
choice is mine are one the
1:40:20
Royal Rumble. And. My
1:40:22
decision is at Wrestlemania Forty
1:40:24
I choose Roman Reigns. And
1:40:27
that got a big pop. And here now
1:40:29
here comes all this and peers and Triple
1:40:31
H your run out. And
1:40:34
Roman is said year old news. Go
1:40:36
to the loser bracket nobody cares right?
1:40:39
blah blah blah. Rawlins hanging in the
1:40:41
back the whole time paying attention sir
1:40:43
yes and other that added a lot
1:40:46
of it's an he's technically when always
1:40:48
hang and bakkies on cody side over
1:40:50
there. And
1:40:52
as as Roman is knock
1:40:55
and dusty, then. Cody.
1:40:57
Far back as a your family.
1:41:00
Oh your family are yes men
1:41:02
and goons. And if your
1:41:04
grandfather, Peter my via were be here
1:41:06
they would be here Now they be
1:41:08
ashamed of yeah. And.
1:41:11
And know rocks deaths us to
1:41:13
Cody are I have it. Would.
1:41:16
You talk about his family. You're.
1:41:19
Talking about mine. You.
1:41:22
Talk about his blood. Your target
1:41:24
about my blood. So now we
1:41:26
have a problem. Admiral
1:41:28
calls often slabs cody.
1:41:31
As with any worse miss having as were just
1:41:34
as from. Well. There you go.
1:41:37
Might. Be the closest rock comes to
1:41:39
the Oscar ceremony again these day. Or
1:41:42
but I'm a bad influence. Thought you were. You
1:41:44
are. But I mean it. You know? I
1:41:47
don't always go to get nominated for this word, but
1:41:49
it's good to draw some money. But
1:41:52
is so that he slaps Cody
1:41:54
and everybody reacts. And Heyman was
1:41:56
fucking as They got freeze frames
1:41:58
on. Twitter. of Haman's face,
1:42:00
it was incredible. And
1:42:05
they're trying to hold Cody back and
1:42:08
he's taken out and Seth
1:42:10
leaves with him
1:42:12
and Rock stays out on
1:42:14
the stage with Roman and Paul and
1:42:16
they go to the announcers
1:42:19
to try to make sense of this. And did
1:42:21
you notice that Big E said, I don't know,
1:42:23
what are we trying to set up here? A
1:42:26
tag? And all of
1:42:28
a sudden you see on his
1:42:30
face, somebody told him in his
1:42:32
ear, shut the fuck up. Shut
1:42:34
the fuck up or
1:42:36
you're fucking fired. Because
1:42:38
they didn't want to lead him down that road yet. So
1:42:42
there is no more mention of that, but I love it
1:42:44
when he, because he hasn't had any experience with what are
1:42:46
we trying to build here? I
1:42:48
thought Big E was kind of really good on this
1:42:50
because he was reacting almost as if there was no
1:42:52
headset for everything the whole time they asked him. He
1:42:55
was giving real reactions or real thoughts or at least
1:42:57
he seemed like it. So it was really effective. Well
1:42:59
yeah, in this case, he really was confused. What
1:43:02
the fuck was going on? And Triple H set up the
1:43:04
tag match at the very beginning when he was going over
1:43:06
the history of the first WrestleMania and how it was a
1:43:08
tag match there. And the
1:43:11
other thing about the desk, McAfee was fine.
1:43:13
Michael Cole did really well. At
1:43:16
the very end especially, CM Punk stole
1:43:18
the show because of two things. CM
1:43:21
Punk talking about how someone
1:43:23
slapped you, I would punch him right in
1:43:26
the face and the rock is in the
1:43:28
background on the stage without a microphone and
1:43:30
you see his reaction instantly when he hears
1:43:32
what Punk says and then you just see
1:43:34
him mouthing things at Punk. It
1:43:37
was amazing. It was so good. And
1:43:39
then Punk talking about his theories of punching people
1:43:41
in the face. Well
1:43:44
yeah, because now they're saying, well hey,
1:43:46
the rock's on the board of directors.
1:43:49
Technically, he's the
1:43:51
boss of it. And Punk
1:43:53
says, well I don't care if it's
1:43:55
me, if it's somebody fucking slaps me,
1:43:57
if it's my boss, I'm whipping everybody's
1:43:59
ass. Oh
1:44:02
my god, that was again for
1:44:05
the fans and for those who know, they know. So
1:44:08
Punk was really good. I thought the panel was really good
1:44:10
and it worked well the way they used it but that
1:44:12
wasn't the end because then we get Triple H in the
1:44:14
back. Well, and that's
1:44:16
the thing is the panel is killing time and
1:44:18
you think they're wrapping up and then they
1:44:21
do go to Triple H in the
1:44:23
back, the ramp leading to the parking
1:44:25
area or whatever and
1:44:29
right as he started talking, well, you know, you've
1:44:31
got these guys are just this
1:44:33
lost control. Here comes
1:44:36
Rock and Roman and Heyman walking
1:44:39
together. Well Heyman toting
1:44:41
in the back and
1:44:44
they pass Triple H and the Rock says,
1:44:46
fix it. Fix this
1:44:48
or we will. And there was some, he
1:44:50
said some fucking guy used the F word
1:44:52
and they bleep that. And
1:44:56
you know, and they walk off together. So
1:44:59
now it's Rock and Roman
1:45:02
in some kind of super tribal
1:45:05
summit and
1:45:08
he has slapped Cody Rhodes in
1:45:10
the face. We have been promised
1:45:12
Cody versus Roman at WrestleMania. And
1:45:16
as we'll talk about, we get to SmackDown.
1:45:21
They're now teasing the fact
1:45:23
that the Rock has pull, but that
1:45:25
there's Triple H is going to push
1:45:27
back on the pull. And
1:45:32
then you got CM Punk out
1:45:34
there saying this was a quote,
1:45:36
personal issues can be solved when
1:45:39
men fight. And
1:45:42
that's what everybody wants to see is all
1:45:44
these fuckers fighting each other. This
1:45:47
was a fantastic event. It left
1:45:49
you wanting more, wanting to see what's going to
1:45:51
happen. I will say I hope
1:45:53
they don't go too heavy into bad
1:45:56
authority figure versus good authority figure.
1:45:59
You know, I don't know how to do it. How did in a. Thread.
1:46:01
The needle the get to wrestlemania but. This.
1:46:04
Is incredibly promising. He'll rock.
1:46:06
User. To be carefully doesn't over
1:46:09
shadow Roman. Yeah. Because
1:46:11
House Roman, the leader of the bloodline of the Rock,
1:46:13
is right next to a Molests Rock says you're the
1:46:15
leader. But. This is
1:46:17
great stuff! Well. When they may
1:46:19
have to still settle that later on. But
1:46:21
in the meantime their family has been disrespected.
1:46:23
So and a runner be in the rocket
1:46:26
a tag match less likely to get hurts.
1:46:28
That. In the singles match. There.
1:46:30
You go. But when would that tag team
1:46:32
match be? One. Of the
1:46:34
night's to wrestle mania you would think. Well.
1:46:37
Maybe maybe not. We don't know what fox
1:46:39
going on here. do we for wire not
1:46:41
book for elimination chamber? Not in a couple
1:46:43
weeks ago. Rush something like that you wouldn't
1:46:45
think. We'll.
1:46:48
See, I mean we still don't know what. Love any
1:46:50
of the main events? Wrestling really are. It's
1:46:52
a fluid situation where we know that
1:46:54
tony government moment nets right. Road.
1:46:57
Like home at this as a fluently and when's your
1:46:59
wage should. Be. Aware of whatever.
1:47:01
yes whatever. we just said. business of
1:47:03
fluid situation because there's to make it
1:47:05
it up because they go along based
1:47:07
on the last said not working but
1:47:09
so far. It's.
1:47:11
Fucking great. Whole.
1:47:14
Gym that was the Wrestlemania kick off and
1:47:16
hopefully the do more events like that in
1:47:18
the future. Great energy, Exciting! Everyone was talking
1:47:20
about it. At. The great numbers on
1:47:22
you tube live as in a few hundred thousand
1:47:24
people. Watching. A just they're not even on
1:47:27
p thought. Oh and in the video
1:47:29
of some of the important stuff was up over
1:47:31
a couple a million by the next day. He.
1:47:34
Er visit A great job leaning into this the
1:47:36
big pivots. And. Speaking a big pivots.
1:47:39
We. Had a pivot right now. It's a real time.
1:47:41
Because. Right now in the real world gym.
1:47:43
Cornet. You've. Was a new line
1:47:46
of action figures. They are on sale.
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We're talking commerce. We're talking sales. Many.
1:47:51
Other people want to launch something. And.
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Have some help for commerce and sales.
1:47:56
And. Website. And other
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words, words in front. This is
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Jim our friends at shopify could be
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the helpful many people. Yes, Saw
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brave. You need help ladies and gentlemen
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and many of you do. Then
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know can you imagine if instead of. Putting
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this Wrestlemania kick off on all these
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other platforms, they put it on shopify
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and they sold it. Will a to
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made a million dollars right there. More
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than a million dollars but that's not
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necessarily have such as on a paper
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view, closed circuit. Taobao Shopify can sell
1:48:30
anything their the Global Commerce platform that
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helps you sell at every stage of
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your business. Because I
1:48:36
you know you've got with the commerce
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in the Global Commerce in the Commerzbank
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on. All over the place
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of all the commerce in the United States
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were you aware of that? That's
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an amazing figure. It's right here. mccarthy. Yes,
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It's amazing that I can read this
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and. Not only that, but
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over in the other The Antilles,
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the Netherlands Antilles, they are about
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two percent, but they're gaining ground
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fast. Over the Dutch
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to look merchants. That event
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held sway over there for
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quite some Us. Is
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not have a top he was dead opposite to
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for said. Does not bode. Well
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for you I was better that roosevelt a
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piano to absorb and organ. And I'll tell
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you this folks. Shopify as
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extensive help resources. Who
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would have thought it was the best?
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or when you're is expanding your business or
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when you're ready to retire and give this
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they do your kids the fuck it all
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to hell. Show. If I'll
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be right there with you every step of
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the way, they'll help you build it. They'll help
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you maintain it and they'll help your kids fuck it
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up. So folks are,
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and right now it's never been less
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expensive. I can't say cheap because
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that, that applies flimsiness and lack
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of reliability. And that's the furthest
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thing from the Shopify platforms that
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you're going to find that are
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supporting your business, selling your goods and
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services. I mean, you
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know, there's some people out there just don't have
1:50:30
the selling ability. They need Shopify's
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help. You get people couldn't sell pussy
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on a troop train, but
1:50:36
here with Shopify, you could
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open the biggest little whore house
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in Texas. So right now,
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I'm taking it onto the tracks, apparently. And,
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and, and, and your steam engine would
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come ride the little train. It's rolling down
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the tracks to the junction. You
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can right now sign up for a $1 a
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it's only a dollar a month for
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heaven's sake, well, then that's, that's
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going to raise your bottom line exponentially
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because a dollar is the
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next best thing to almost nothing. It's
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a dollar away from nothing at all. Why
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would that be? So go to Shopify. That
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could be actually the next big hit a
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dollar away from nothing at all. That
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sounds like a country song. A smile is the
1:51:25
best uniform you could wear. Well,
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that's what they say up north
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when your internet is out, but
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go to shopify.com/J C E right
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is I need new glasses. Well,
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whatever stage or state you're in, look
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at the state of you at this stage of the game,
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Shopify gonna
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make you money, honey. That's
1:51:58
what we want. If
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you want to Shopify, then
1:52:15
no one will Shopify better than
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Shopify. We didn't even
1:52:20
talk about not just selling your own stuff anymore,
1:52:22
but selling other people's stuff. But I don't think
1:52:24
we only had time. If we only had time,
1:52:26
there's so many things to go over. And again,
1:52:29
we're recording again tomorrow, so stay tuned
1:52:31
to the YouTube channel. It's going to be packed with
1:52:33
shit. Jim, Phil
1:52:35
Mushnick has weighed in on
1:52:37
the Vince McMahon scandal. My old
1:52:39
friend, my bosom buddy, old Phil Mushnick, he
1:52:41
never has too much good to say about
1:52:43
wrestling. Is he normally a happy guy? You
1:52:46
get to read him in the newspapers up
1:52:48
there regularly, right? I read his column in
1:52:50
the New York Post. I read the New
1:52:52
York Post Sports section. I always have liked
1:52:54
it. He's, uh, his column's called Equal Time.
1:52:57
It's always kind of the pessimistic,
1:53:01
negative, most negative possible
1:53:03
look. And it almost is like
1:53:05
it's coming from someone from like 1945, like
1:53:07
came over in a time machine. But
1:53:10
he also has some funny points every now and then.
1:53:13
Every once in a while. Well, the headline of this article here,
1:53:15
February 8th, 2024 in the New York Post, hosting
1:53:21
Super Bowl 2024 in crime-ridden
1:53:23
Las Vegas, a rotten choice
1:53:26
by NFL. What? So
1:53:28
that just sets the tone for what
1:53:31
it is. When I say it's always like, you know,
1:53:33
the most like punched in the gut. Look
1:53:36
at how awful this is. So
1:53:38
let me go down a little bit. Here's
1:53:41
the headline. Trump was
1:53:43
warned that McManus sleaze.
1:53:47
Now that most everyone knows what
1:53:50
this column years ago investigated and
1:53:52
reported. Oh, he's an I
1:53:54
told you sewer that Vince McMahon is a
1:53:56
twisted creep. It
1:53:59
Brings to mind A. The only chat I
1:54:01
had with Donald Trump. Before.
1:54:03
He became president. As
1:54:06
Trump was throwing in with madman. Playing.
1:54:09
And entering clown. Don't.
1:54:11
Madman, paper view, and
1:54:14
often salacious extravaganzas. I.
1:54:17
Offered Trump for large boxes
1:54:19
of documents, To. Show him
1:54:21
that Mcmahon reds Raj and decimal.
1:54:24
And. A. Sexually
1:54:26
perverted operation. Even
1:54:29
indulging. The employment
1:54:31
of known pedophiles. Who.
1:54:33
Became the target of inside jokes.
1:54:36
On. The Man's Telecasts. Trump.
1:54:39
Dismissed at all. Rationalizing.
1:54:42
That he donates his appearance fees to
1:54:44
charities. Though
1:54:46
he really does though he didn't say
1:54:48
how much or given name of the
1:54:50
charities. As this that
1:54:52
excuse his service as a madman
1:54:55
attraction. And
1:54:57
so. As. Trump was inducted
1:54:59
into Mcmahon Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame.
1:55:02
His. Wife Linda was soon name
1:55:04
President Trump's cabinet. Or
1:55:06
to President Trump's cabinet has his
1:55:09
you his name the whole cabinet
1:55:11
as the Secretary of Small Business.
1:55:14
Mrs. With Man not only participated
1:55:16
in her husband's most vulgar skits.
1:55:19
And sales of merchandise. The kids.
1:55:22
Are business at him and included. T.
1:55:24
Shirts that read such. With
1:55:27
an arrow pointing towards the crotch.
1:55:30
Or. Of she had astonishingly been
1:55:33
appointed to Connecticut's Board of Education.
1:55:36
Then. She claimed to have been an
1:55:38
education major in college. When.
1:55:40
She majored in friends. Who
1:55:43
can replace or college may wait a minute. Wait,
1:55:46
A minute. What else would you want?
1:55:48
A major and besides friendship, you were
1:55:51
going to spend your life telling people
1:55:53
to suck it. A success. As so
1:55:55
much that says here, but who can
1:55:57
recall their college major. It's.
1:56:00
All com. All. Of
1:56:02
it. And. That's the
1:56:04
yeah. Then he goes on to the as a problem
1:56:06
with does. Jason. Alexander for being
1:56:08
in a gambling commercial. And.
1:56:11
Wait a minute George. George.
1:56:13
Costanza now Jason Alexander formerly
1:56:15
known as George The Stanza
1:56:17
appears in Tv ads pitching
1:56:19
a real stakes online poker.
1:56:22
Of. Course. Everyone wins
1:56:24
in such commands. Does.
1:56:27
Alexander receive raking in a
1:56:29
skyline of stats ships. Are
1:56:33
right. Way. So you can
1:56:35
do a booger drummer show. I.
1:56:38
Just not. I mean, you know, easy. Unfortunately
1:56:40
the Ww Ii and Vinson, Linda
1:56:43
and everybody else gave all fill
1:56:45
their a bunch to work with
1:56:47
on his. Who. Will
1:56:49
blurb there, but at the same time
1:56:51
he does sound like a sour doom
1:56:54
and gloom mother fucker detonate. You.
1:56:56
Know you want someone to look at all the
1:56:58
bad shit, but. If like
1:57:00
every column I, everything he writes is negative and
1:57:02
I guess that's kind of is saying might. Not.
1:57:05
Even is a negative person but I just
1:57:08
gimmick. Fate is given. his job is the
1:57:10
right. The negative. Or. Look at
1:57:12
the. Only. The Cb
1:57:14
side of things. Time.
1:57:16
To really. Understand. Is not really
1:57:19
a media reporter says. He's
1:57:21
not ready for is just like. He's a
1:57:23
commentator. I. Mean his
1:57:26
columns cook equally. I'm it's and zero accuse
1:57:28
people accuse me and you a lot of
1:57:30
being out a day just like the knock
1:57:33
everything but we praise people in we pray
1:57:35
we don't hate Las Vegas just for the
1:57:37
sake of it. Big entertainment events do and
1:57:39
sports events do happen there. Would.
1:57:43
He rather it be and fuckin' Vincenzo.
1:57:46
Indiana. I'm.
1:57:48
Not sure. I'm
1:57:51
on the six side. Thus,
1:57:53
I still don't understand why this past
1:57:55
week. Again, Women's.
1:57:58
College teams dress head to toe. The
1:58:00
speakers. Included. In
1:58:02
pink. To show their
1:58:04
support for children breast cancer. So.
1:58:07
I again ask. Why?
1:58:09
Not everyone will a conspicuous
1:58:12
pink ribbon. Rather,
1:58:14
Than spend tens of thousands of
1:58:16
dollars on picking somebody else. One.
1:58:19
I don't a that money to cancer
1:58:21
research. Rather, Than
1:58:23
on fleeting public relations. Such
1:58:27
as a victim of negative way of looking
1:58:29
at that right? Oh
1:58:31
how dare this man dressed all in
1:58:33
red and white come down my chimney
1:58:35
and fucking leave all those presents the
1:58:37
wrapping paper got everywhere. I think he's
1:58:39
damage to the gym the I'm going
1:58:42
to have to have it inspected. And
1:58:44
the reindeer shit on the roof. Did.
1:58:47
Anyone else him a problem with the
1:58:50
breast cancer days? Pink. Else that
1:58:52
any what I said that's a waste of money.
1:58:55
I. Don't if they if it. Also,
1:58:57
if they wanted to wear pink assume
1:59:00
didn't days. Maybe. They bought their
1:59:02
own or. The. School
1:59:04
gotta have. A
1:59:06
grant from the Exxon core. Brace yourself.
1:59:08
I don't fucking know, I wouldn't. we
1:59:10
examine the how the people bought their.
1:59:13
Fucking. Uniforms when they were trying to
1:59:15
bring awareness to a. Certain.
1:59:17
Situation. This does bring up an interesting question and again
1:59:19
you have a little bit of a history with. Must
1:59:22
know from the promo you can on him on Raul.
1:59:25
But. To. The people
1:59:27
that. Were. Calling out Vince in
1:59:29
the early nineties. And.
1:59:31
Amongst the wrestlers, a lot of them and
1:59:33
I'm going back to work for him at
1:59:35
one time or another. Some of them didn't
1:59:37
like David Salts, Billie Jack Aims. I
1:59:40
will talk about him a moron am later. Various.
1:59:43
Other people. But. Bruno
1:59:45
San Martino. Eventually you'll join the Hall of Fame and
1:59:47
was a part of the. Alumni
1:59:49
of the lameness of stubby to be
1:59:51
Ii. But.
1:59:53
There were people calling him after a lot of things
1:59:55
and. He. Knows you go back
1:59:57
and look at things. They. knew
2:00:00
what was up with Mel Phillips when
2:00:02
they rehired him after firing him? You
2:00:06
know, like they knew a lot of things and I
2:00:08
guess to some people like Phil Mushnick, and again
2:00:10
he may have a negative tone in his stuff
2:00:12
and everything is just, you know, why are they
2:00:15
wasting money? Who is this person? Whatever. But
2:00:18
to the people that have been waiting for this
2:00:20
moment, like it's almost like they knew it was
2:00:22
gonna one day come because they saw something
2:00:24
in Vince then that a lot of other people
2:00:26
didn't see. Well,
2:00:29
coming from, and I guess
2:00:31
this guy is an extreme example, he's all
2:00:33
the way over on one side of the
2:00:35
fence, but coming
2:00:37
from the real world, yes, when
2:00:39
you examined the wrestling business in
2:00:41
any of its practices, not just
2:00:45
related to Mel Phillips and his, you
2:00:47
know, feed activities or whatever is going
2:00:49
on with Terry Garvin, you
2:00:52
know, a guy uses a blade, whatever
2:00:54
the fuck, it's bizarre when
2:00:57
you examine what goes on and went on
2:00:59
in wrestling. And,
2:01:02
you know, that's the
2:01:05
thing with Vince is
2:01:07
people knew that he
2:01:09
was, we've always said he was
2:01:12
weird and people
2:01:14
could extrapolate, well look at all this going
2:01:16
on, but I was not around
2:01:19
the ring boy scandal in
2:01:21
the 80s because we were down south
2:01:23
working for Crockett, but
2:01:25
I always assumed, besides
2:01:27
the fact that people have wrongly maligned Pat
2:01:29
Patterson just because he was gay and was
2:01:32
in the middle of the fucking
2:01:34
company in so many different ways,
2:01:37
but he and Garvin
2:01:39
and Phillips were completely
2:01:41
different cases. But
2:01:43
I could never figure out from my
2:01:45
experience there why
2:01:47
Vince would have given a fuck About
2:01:51
who the God Mel Phillips, whether he's gonna
2:01:53
announce or he's gonna take jackets or who
2:01:55
the fuck is Mel Phillips? He's like the
2:01:57
merchandise weasel. Fuck it, he caused it. The
2:02:00
Problem. Get the fuck rid of it. And
2:02:03
I get is it was because of. The
2:02:06
you know Terry Garvin was little bit higher
2:02:08
ranked. Individual. All.
2:02:11
He was. He was on the corporate ladder. He was
2:02:13
an executive. Yeah, You. Know that
2:02:15
where I could see? Well, they didn't. You know? They
2:02:19
didn't want to bury themselves
2:02:21
by just publicly fuckin' Kick
2:02:23
and him under the bus because he was up
2:02:25
there. But mail celebes? Just a stooge. And.
2:02:28
I never understood why they went to. Get
2:02:32
away any trouble to protect him
2:02:34
and anyway or whatever. But
2:02:37
I couldn't see Vince. At his.
2:02:40
Level. You know, interacting with
2:02:42
his low level shit did it did getting
2:02:44
to that extent. And
2:02:47
I never understood what maybe. Now it's like,
2:02:49
well they knew something on fuck advance. Who
2:02:51
the fuck knows. And.
2:02:54
They didn't have been d a's back then. see
2:02:56
that's one of the things as the wonder how
2:02:58
many people. Especially. From the
2:03:00
early days when was a smaller circle, the company
2:03:02
was a smaller company. How many people if any?
2:03:05
Had. When that Vince was in the six shit,
2:03:08
And. Or who knew what I mean My is that a
2:03:10
who knew what. And
2:03:12
when a h m it again I
2:03:15
think he was. I. Mean
2:03:17
I'll or know that Vince has always been
2:03:19
in the read, it shattered and thing. and
2:03:21
yes he's messed around on Linda but I
2:03:23
would have to think he. Somehow.
2:03:26
Got into these extremes late in life
2:03:28
when he the rest of his brain
2:03:30
went away when he became a billionaire.
2:03:32
Whatever. Because. You would have. You.
2:03:34
Would have heard some of this shit. There's.
2:03:37
No way that the boys in the
2:03:39
eighties they weren't that scared. events that
2:03:42
that that. Fade. But as
2:03:44
of the guys in the eighties from the
2:03:46
territory's had seen a lot of things and
2:03:48
we're not easily scared of people. And.
2:03:51
Didn't. At. That point, have the
2:03:53
thought that will my job is over in
2:03:55
the wrestling business entirely if Vince is pissed
2:03:57
off at me cause it And get to
2:03:59
that point. You would not have
2:04:01
been able to keep that chatter quiet.
2:04:04
But again, in the 80s, Rita
2:04:06
Chatterton was a referee. She was the only
2:04:08
female referee. There was Miss Elizabeth. There was
2:04:10
Sherry Martell. Before that, there was Mula.
2:04:14
There was Wendy Richter. There
2:04:16
was Mula Stable. Different
2:04:19
people did things with different promoters, but you never hear anything
2:04:21
about Vince with that. There
2:04:23
weren't that many women around. And
2:04:26
now, especially since the attitude
2:04:28
I read, it just became a meat market
2:04:30
almost. But there were... It
2:04:33
is, I consider, who was hiring them. There were
2:04:35
many more women in those days at
2:04:37
the shows and at the hotels and
2:04:39
waiting at the various places where the
2:04:41
guys ate and whatever. So I'm just...I
2:04:45
don't know. But again, that's
2:04:47
why I always wondered when
2:04:49
I heard about it and when
2:04:51
I was there, seeing the company in
2:04:53
action, why would Mel Phillips, this
2:04:55
lowly fuckwit, have
2:04:58
been tolerated? You
2:05:01
know... Why did they want
2:05:03
dirty stooges? Why did they want
2:05:05
dirty stooges who were going to do anything they said
2:05:07
and they knew they had nowhere else
2:05:09
to go? That's
2:05:12
the question. I don't know if we're ever getting
2:05:14
an answer to that. But
2:05:16
Jim, let's move on from Phil Mushnick
2:05:18
and Vince to
2:05:20
another Vince story. And we'll save a little bit of
2:05:23
the Vince stuff for tomorrow on the experience when we
2:05:25
record it. Brett
2:05:27
the Hitman Hart has spoken out now. Well,
2:05:29
that's what I was going to say. If
2:05:32
Brett Hart had heard any stories
2:05:34
with details approaching
2:05:38
what we've heard lately about Vince McMahon,
2:05:41
I have a hard time believing that
2:05:43
he wouldn't have made
2:05:45
reference, right, from
2:05:47
years ago. You would think so. You
2:05:49
would certainly hope so. I guess Brett Hart stole a
2:05:51
lot of people's hero. But
2:05:54
an article here from... Well, he's saying
2:05:56
it now and the stuff he says now sounds like
2:05:58
the shit that he used to do. Save.
2:06:00
Twenty. Five years ago, he hasn't
2:06:03
changed that much as an article
2:06:05
here from sleep.com by Abraham Josephine
2:06:07
Reisman. Or. Resubmit? I'm not sure
2:06:09
the exact pronunciation. Excuse me? Quote.
2:06:13
It's too sick and disgusting. The
2:06:15
really? imagine. The. New
2:06:17
allegations against Vincent, Man of finally pushed
2:06:19
breath and hard to denounce him for
2:06:21
good. That's. The headline
2:06:23
what are you doing a that. Well,
2:06:26
that's Abbott Said. That's why I
2:06:28
say that bread didn't hear about.
2:06:31
Shit. Like this in the. Eighties
2:06:33
or nineties or we would have heard some
2:06:35
like this from breath before the go. It.
2:06:39
More. Just. it's a long article and it covers
2:06:41
a lot of the stuff we've talked about. Let me
2:06:43
I get again. Second, as sleep.com o me find some
2:06:45
of the quotes. I'm. Going to
2:06:47
speak my truth. I'm. Not
2:06:50
worried about Vince's feelings. He.
2:06:52
Never cared about mine. I
2:06:55
don't have any problem with everybody kicking his
2:06:57
head around the parking lot. I'm
2:06:59
okay with the truth coming out. That's it. That's
2:07:02
another one of those sports they have in Canada,
2:07:04
in addition to the curling. They.
2:07:06
Take decapitated heads and kick him around
2:07:08
a parking lot. And. With
2:07:11
scroll down a little more. According
2:07:13
to the filing, mcmahon coerce Grant in
2:07:15
the freeway such look into a freeway
2:07:17
sexual encounter during which Mad Man allegedly
2:07:20
desiccated on Grants Head and that. While
2:07:22
she was being raped by another man and
2:07:25
for sort of continue being assaulted for an
2:07:27
hour and a half. Before. A
2:07:29
wedding, her shower, It was
2:07:31
too much for hearts. Quote.
2:07:34
When. You get that vision in your head. You.
2:07:37
Go. That's. Messed up.
2:07:40
To second, Disgusting. The really? Imagine.
2:07:43
But. At the same time, the loot text messages
2:07:46
included in the suit. Allegedly sent
2:07:48
by Mcmahon after the incident. Have.
2:07:51
A convincingly familiar ring hard said.
2:07:54
What? They. Sound like
2:07:57
Vince. And.
2:08:00
quotes. And then a
2:08:02
little bit down here. I know.
2:08:04
Wait, wait, hold on. I
2:08:07
don't know in what context. Oh, I'm sure
2:08:09
Vince and Brett have texted each other because
2:08:12
you know, as we know, Vince,
2:08:14
in any way that he can contact you, he'll
2:08:16
master it. And I guess Brett's one of these
2:08:18
people is, ah, we got a text now, like
2:08:20
the young folks, but I
2:08:22
defy. Brett
2:08:25
Hart to come up with any text that Vince
2:08:27
McMahon ever sent him that approaches
2:08:29
any of those texts. Maybe
2:08:32
just the wordiness or the, the, the
2:08:35
lack of grammatical consistency maybe
2:08:37
was the, the tone of
2:08:39
Vince's texts. You know, it was,
2:08:41
I think it was one of them, it almost looked like one
2:08:43
of his attempts to, you know, the Vince mind
2:08:46
trick where he said something like awful that
2:08:49
he wanted her to do. And then he was like, holy
2:08:51
shit. Isn't this great? Like the
2:08:53
holy shit got him. That's
2:08:56
him. Let me go back to a
2:08:58
Brett here. Or, or, or
2:09:00
would he almost parenthetically added and
2:09:02
more on this truthful story I'm
2:09:04
telling you, I don't
2:09:07
think that this is the only incident of
2:09:09
this kind of predatory behavior, Hart said. I
2:09:12
think you'll find that it's everywhere
2:09:14
in WWE, but
2:09:17
he never spoke up. McMahon
2:09:19
was too fearsome at the time. Go
2:09:22
back to Brett here. It's kind of like
2:09:24
the Godfather. You never know
2:09:26
when a guy like Vince will be your enemy again
2:09:28
over something you say or do. Plus
2:09:32
it seemed like nothing could stop him anyway. Back
2:09:34
to Brett. He's the Teflon
2:09:37
guy. You just can't
2:09:39
seem to get anything on him. He's
2:09:41
just too powerful. Got
2:09:43
too much money. Let's
2:09:46
stop there. What do you think of that? That's kind
2:09:48
of what you were saying before, why people wouldn't say
2:09:51
anything. Yeah, but I believe he finally got some on
2:09:53
him. Um,
2:09:56
I think this is, this one's going to stick a
2:09:58
little while. I'm
2:10:00
you know what can we do with bread object
2:10:02
i didn't mean to laugh a minute ago we will
2:10:05
but that's that's messed up i mean what a a
2:10:08
classic canadian bread heart understatement
2:10:10
of an issue um
2:10:15
yeah you know think of
2:10:17
bread was one of the top guys
2:10:21
and then have he was in the class
2:10:23
that vince dealt with on a one-on-one basis
2:10:25
because we were talking last week on one
2:10:27
of these programs about what kind of relationship
2:10:29
does vince have with his top guys now
2:10:32
it apparently has changed and modified over
2:10:35
the years because and
2:10:37
as michael said jesus christ you
2:10:41
know the the the rumors amongst people
2:10:44
both jealous wrestlers and
2:10:47
bewildered fans as to why michaels
2:10:49
got vince put
2:10:51
up with so much shit from him well there must
2:10:53
be something going on between them well no
2:10:57
i'm sorry that wasn't happening and
2:11:00
as michael said he never
2:11:03
had problems getting women on his own
2:11:05
of all the problems he caused himself
2:11:07
and hadn't had self-inflicted wounds those were
2:11:09
not among them and i can knowing
2:11:13
shawn michaels of that era even
2:11:17
though vince was the boss he
2:11:20
always and we've talked about it there was some
2:11:23
element of him being the nerd wanting to
2:11:25
hang out with the cool kids why he
2:11:27
put up with that from the clique or
2:11:29
dx or whatever they've drawn him money yes
2:11:31
but also as the boys
2:11:33
club type of thing that appealed to vince because
2:11:35
he was on the outside looking in if
2:11:39
the 45 year old vince mcmahon
2:11:42
had suggested a three-way to
2:11:46
30 year old shawn michaels or whatever
2:11:48
it was michaels would have i
2:11:51
don't know whether you would have laughed first or
2:11:53
fucking his tongue would have dropped out of his
2:11:55
mouth but that night that
2:11:57
would not have been a situation that any of those guys i
2:11:59
don't think have performed in back in
2:12:01
those days with the principal in the fucking
2:12:03
room? I
2:12:06
don't know what's going on with Vince and Lauranitis
2:12:08
but Vince did not have
2:12:10
that relationship with the
2:12:12
Undertaker, I'll tell you that. All
2:12:15
right, well let's go back to Brett. But
2:12:18
more important was the love and respect
2:12:20
heart still held for so long. Without
2:12:23
McMahon, he had told me, I
2:12:27
wouldn't be the same man I am today.
2:12:30
McMahon made many of the best things in
2:12:32
his adult life possible. It
2:12:35
was an exploitative power, McMahon
2:12:40
held over everyone he built up in the
2:12:42
world he built. Now,
2:12:46
Hart sees McMahon facing the greatest threat
2:12:48
that a man who has built a
2:12:50
profitable reputation for sadism could
2:12:53
face. What?
2:12:56
Wait, what? He is
2:12:59
facing the greatest threat that a
2:13:01
man who has built a profitable
2:13:03
reputation for sadism can face. What?
2:13:08
Here's Brett Hart's quote, It's
2:13:10
like Jeffrey Dahmer, Harvey
2:13:12
Weinstein, or Jeffrey Epstein. Vince
2:13:15
will be a joke. He'll be
2:13:18
used for humor, and you'll shake your head
2:13:20
at the shock value of some jokes about it. What
2:13:23
did Vince McMahon do? He'll
2:13:25
always be associated with this story, especially
2:13:28
as it gets bigger and bigger and
2:13:30
bigger. And
2:13:33
these quotes from Brett are pretty fascinating. He's just right
2:13:35
away ready to say, yeah, fuck
2:13:38
Vince. That's why
2:13:40
I love Brett. Brett's
2:13:43
an upstanding kind of guy. He doesn't go in for
2:13:45
any of that that faller
2:13:47
all going on out there. But
2:13:49
I think the wording was a little flowery
2:13:52
about the man who's built his a profitable
2:13:55
industry of sadism or
2:13:58
whatever. This year
2:14:00
I always had respect for him. Now.
2:14:03
It's tainted. I'm embarrassed I
2:14:05
thought so highly of him. And
2:14:07
the I swear a lot of people fell but. The. Other
2:14:09
interesting thing here. Heart.
2:14:11
Is already tried to make amends for his past
2:14:14
police and Mcmahon. Throughout. His
2:14:16
time in W W S and for the
2:14:18
decades later. He. Heard the rumors
2:14:20
and accusations of sexual impropriety. Against
2:14:23
Mcmahon. And he generally
2:14:26
dismiss them. For. Example.
2:14:28
When. Debatably us first female referee.
2:14:31
Read. A Chatterton. Came forward
2:14:33
and ninety ninety two to it's use mcmahon
2:14:36
of raping her. Part.
2:14:38
Look for holes in her story. And.
2:14:41
Wrote it off. Even
2:14:43
going so far as the credit
2:14:45
her accusations in interviews. I.
2:14:47
Just didn't believe it. Heart told me. I
2:14:50
figured Vince had too much at stake to
2:14:52
ever do something like that. Even
2:14:55
after the Twenty Twenty Two revelations of
2:14:58
alleged hush money payments from Mcmahon. To.
2:15:00
Former employees became public. And.
2:15:03
He briefly resigned. Hearted.
2:15:05
Kept his mouth shut, Same.
2:15:08
When Mcmahon forced his way back into the
2:15:10
boardroom, And twenty twenty three. Despite.
2:15:14
The unresolved accusations. But.
2:15:17
A few months ago. After.
2:15:19
Hearing the advance rumblings of these
2:15:21
latest accusations. Heart. Ran
2:15:23
into Chatterton at a convention. I.
2:15:26
Apologize from the bottom of my heart.
2:15:29
Part. Recalled. And. I said
2:15:31
I believe that what happened to you. Happen
2:15:34
To you. And. I apologize
2:15:36
and I was wrong. Part.
2:15:39
Sounds genuinely remorseful when he tells
2:15:41
me these things. He. Already
2:15:43
lost his father. A
2:15:45
legendary wrestling promoter in his own right.
2:15:47
Twenty years ago. Now.
2:15:50
It's as though he has lost a mother.
2:15:53
And. The final quote here. I
2:15:55
think. Despite. All the issues
2:15:57
I ever had with Vince. I.
2:15:59
Know d. down I always respected him. But
2:16:02
now, knowing what kind
2:16:04
of weirdo he became, I have absolutely
2:16:09
zero respect for him. Hart
2:16:11
wrote to me in a text message after our conversation,
2:16:13
I do not think
2:16:15
I could ever shake his hand if he
2:16:17
extended it. Too creepy.
2:16:22
And there it is. You can read the whole article
2:16:24
at slate.com. Abraham
2:16:26
Josephine Reisman also wrote the
2:16:28
Vince McMahon biography.
2:16:30
Was it Ringmaster? Yes. So
2:16:34
they've been on the case of Vince McMahon for a
2:16:36
while. So this is someone with knowledge of what
2:16:39
happened back then, I would believe. I
2:16:41
was going to say when we were talking about our
2:16:44
friend Phil Mushnick earlier and the
2:16:46
promo that I cut on him, I think Brett's
2:16:49
the same thing. When
2:16:51
I promoed Phil Mushnick on that
2:16:53
Raw episode is because column he
2:16:55
had written after Brian Pillman died.
2:16:58
And he was not only he was
2:17:00
knocking Pillman but also he always knocked
2:17:03
the business itself. I wasn't defending Vince.
2:17:05
I didn't say
2:17:07
anything about Vince personally. I had
2:17:10
no problem at all cutting a promo on a
2:17:13
guy that was knocking the
2:17:15
wrestling business. I had done that throughout
2:17:18
my life and would continue to. And
2:17:21
I think Brett here is not only a gassed,
2:17:26
upset, unsavory
2:17:32
the details but also he's
2:17:34
upset at how Vince has made
2:17:36
the business
2:17:39
look and how he has
2:17:41
disgraced that and given
2:17:43
all these people who never liked it to
2:17:45
begin with the
2:17:48
excuse and opportunity to slander
2:17:51
the whole wrestling business and everybody that's been
2:17:53
in it because this one fucking guy does
2:17:55
this shit. And
2:17:57
I say because talking about
2:17:59
used to having respect for Vince McMahon, I've
2:18:01
mentioned this. Whether
2:18:04
it was the boys or whether it was TV
2:18:06
people or whether it was anybody, when Vince of
2:18:08
old came into
2:18:10
the room, he's tall,
2:18:12
he's got the suits, he's got
2:18:14
the presence, the personal magnetism
2:18:19
that you know this is somebody, he's
2:18:21
important. He had that
2:18:23
voice and you would, it's like
2:18:26
the principal was in the room or there's some
2:18:28
authority figure, you're on your best behavior, mind your
2:18:30
P's and Q's as Mama Cornette used to say.
2:18:34
And then to find out that he's a dribbling,
2:18:37
disgusting, perverted old man that
2:18:39
not only that
2:18:41
but he's stupid about it. I
2:18:43
said, I can't believe he was this stupid. Brett said,
2:18:46
how could he be this stupid? You
2:18:48
find this guy that you had respect
2:18:51
for even if he had fucked you around
2:18:53
personally or fucked you around business wise. You
2:18:56
could say, look at him, he's
2:18:58
got his shit together and now
2:19:01
he's a blithering idiot
2:19:03
that has destroyed his own
2:19:05
reputation and cost himself
2:19:09
however many millions and millions and millions of
2:19:11
dollars over this behavior. Even
2:19:16
if nothing else, that's a departure,
2:19:18
that's a shock, that's a transition
2:19:20
from the guy
2:19:22
that we all knew even if he was a
2:19:24
crazy billionaire he was still, you didn't think
2:19:27
he's a complete fucking buffoon. I
2:19:31
mean that's one of your points and that has
2:19:33
been. You know, he never thought he would be
2:19:35
this stupid on top of everything else. But
2:19:39
again, maybe he reverted back to what he's always
2:19:42
been. Let's
2:19:44
move on from the Brett
2:19:46
Hart Vince McMillan, really the Vince McMahon
2:19:49
update today. We'll have more Vince McMahon
2:19:51
on the drive-thru that we're returning to
2:19:53
that we're recording tomorrow. No,
2:19:55
this is the drive-thru. We're recording the
2:19:57
experience. I don't know where. And he
2:19:59
sold it. His condo, by the way,
2:20:01
in 2023, I guess the trips
2:20:03
through the lobby were getting awkward. And
2:20:07
it was Linda's condo too, apparently. Yes,
2:20:09
they owned it as a couple and they
2:20:12
sold it for like what, under 2 million
2:20:14
when they had paid like 4 million and
2:20:16
wanted originally 4 million, but he took half
2:20:20
of that to get out of there apparently. Well,
2:20:22
more about Vince and his
2:20:25
sick weirdo behavior, as Bret Hart put it
2:20:27
later on. Jim,
2:20:29
a few interesting things we'll talk
2:20:32
about here before we wrap things up. Executive
2:20:34
moves that happened this past week. Let's
2:20:37
start with the first one. It's
2:20:39
a bad week to be the president of a wrestling
2:20:41
company, isn't it? It's been a little
2:20:43
bit of a run where, you know, Vince
2:20:46
McMahon and now these moves, like
2:20:48
the head, I mean, Tony Khan better watch out. But
2:20:51
the news this past week, and I know we
2:20:53
don't follow stardom in Japanese women's wrestling that closely,
2:20:56
but this is really fascinating. Rossi
2:20:58
Ogawa, who was the founder
2:21:01
of stardom, made a
2:21:03
lot of money selling stardom to Bushy Road, which
2:21:05
owns New Japan, but was still running it
2:21:07
and the head of creative, was
2:21:11
released, was fired, even
2:21:14
though he was apparently already intending on leaving.
2:21:17
And the reason that went around was for
2:21:19
poaching talent. And people
2:21:22
didn't know if that meant for WWE, because
2:21:24
of the rumors of their big star Julia
2:21:26
going to WWE, and she's close with Ogawa.
2:21:30
For him starting his own promotion, which
2:21:33
I guess just by
2:21:35
its existence would be opposition to
2:21:37
the biggest women's company in Japan,
2:21:40
have you been following any of this? Well,
2:21:42
I didn't follow. I've caught up
2:21:45
with it. After the news broke
2:21:47
that they canned the guy and
2:21:49
all of the wrestlers apparently were upset,
2:21:51
but this does not sound good. Here's
2:21:53
the deal, is
2:21:56
not only did this guy start the company,
2:21:58
apparently he's been the one. the guru
2:22:00
of women's wrestling in Japan for however
2:22:02
many years for whatever you think of
2:22:04
that position. But he started
2:22:07
this company and then he sold it
2:22:09
to Bushy Road which as you mentioned
2:22:11
owns New Japan. This was several years
2:22:13
ago and they've made
2:22:16
it even bigger and put money into it and
2:22:18
now I think it grosses like ten million dollars
2:22:20
a year. No wonder
2:22:23
Uncle Dave is all wrapped up in this. But
2:22:26
now they found out that
2:22:29
he's pissed off because they won't
2:22:31
let him... he's the Booker still but they've
2:22:33
been overruling him. And
2:22:35
we don't know, we don't have a dog in the
2:22:37
hunt. We don't know whose side to take because is
2:22:40
it a case of
2:22:42
people who work at a
2:22:44
business office that we've experienced
2:22:46
before, the gym herds of the world
2:22:48
trying to impress on the wrestling people
2:22:50
that they know something about wrestling and
2:22:53
telling them to do stupid shit or is it
2:22:56
Rossi O'Gowas an indie wrestling mark promoter
2:22:58
like Tony Khan and wants to do
2:23:00
stupid shit even though now he's running
2:23:03
a big business. We
2:23:05
don't know which side it is but
2:23:08
they've been overruling him on his booking
2:23:12
and he decided since he was
2:23:14
independently wealthy from
2:23:16
the money he made selling this
2:23:18
outlaw girl wrestling company to this
2:23:20
big conglomerate that he's
2:23:22
gonna start his own company that he can book
2:23:24
without interference and use his own money. And
2:23:28
they found out about it and
2:23:31
they knew he was gonna leave and they
2:23:33
agreed apparently to
2:23:36
an end date sometime in February and then
2:23:38
a couple weeks before that they went ahead
2:23:40
and fired him and said, fuck it he's
2:23:42
gone he's been trying to poach our talent
2:23:44
after he was already gonna leave anyway. And
2:23:48
a lot of the wrestlers who know him are up
2:23:50
in an uproar about it and
2:23:52
they've installed some
2:23:55
non-wrestling executive person
2:23:58
to replace him. And
2:24:01
that always works. So,
2:24:04
have they all shit the bed over there?
2:24:08
It's a fascinating series of events. We
2:24:11
also have to figure out what exactly is poaching, because
2:24:13
is poaching as simple as, I'm
2:24:15
leaving soon. Where are you going? I'm going to
2:24:17
start my own company. Oh, can I
2:24:19
work for you? Like, is that poaching? Because
2:24:22
apparently a lot of the women there, if not
2:24:24
the vast majority, only have
2:24:27
one-year contracts. It's
2:24:29
not like here, where you get five-year deals now.
2:24:32
One-year deals that you have to renew every
2:24:34
year. It's easy to do that when you
2:24:36
have no competition. That's
2:24:38
one thing you have to look at. Do
2:24:41
they think Rossy Ogawa is opening
2:24:43
the door to kind of be a feeder system to
2:24:46
WWE? Because a lot of
2:24:48
women have come out of stardom and gone there. That's
2:24:51
another thing, especially with Julia now
2:24:53
saying, everyone, assuming Julia is going
2:24:56
to WWE. Well, and
2:24:58
Tony Khan hopped on Twitter to
2:25:00
rub whatever mess there
2:25:03
is in old Rossy's face. So
2:25:08
apparently they didn't like each other. Yeah, hold on.
2:25:10
I actually saved something to read you about that
2:25:12
because I started laughing. It was in the Observer.
2:25:15
No wonder you were laughing. However,
2:25:18
there was hope from an AEW standpoint
2:25:20
that things would be easier working with
2:25:22
Bushy Road without Ogawa there. AEW
2:25:25
does have hopes of working with stardom more
2:25:27
extensively this year, as well
2:25:29
as with New Japan and CMLL. And
2:25:32
the belief is that internally, they
2:25:35
feel this makes it easier. They
2:25:37
scroll down a little bit. After
2:25:40
Tony Khan's tweets, another
2:25:42
person close to the situation in stardom said,
2:25:45
you have no idea how upset wrestlers
2:25:47
and media are about Tony sticking it
2:25:49
to Rossy. So
2:25:51
now he's upset the wrestlers in stardom and
2:25:54
the Japanese media for whatever that's worth. In
2:25:57
2019, before AEW, W.E.W.
2:26:00
became a full-time promotion, Kenny
2:26:03
Omega asked Mayu Iwatani
2:26:05
to join the company. Ogawa
2:26:08
found out it wasn't happy since
2:26:10
Iwatani was one of his top stars
2:26:12
and he was in the process of selling the company
2:26:15
to Bushy Road and Iwatani
2:26:17
was their biggest established star after
2:26:19
E.O. Shirai, Tony Storm,
2:26:22
and Kyrie Sane had gone to WWE.
2:26:26
So as he's trying to sell the company, Kenny
2:26:28
Omega was trying to sign for
2:26:30
AEW his biggest star is what it says.
2:26:33
But now here's the thing, listen to
2:26:35
this now, if Rossi Ogawa started
2:26:38
the whole company and starred him and
2:26:40
then built it up where he sold
2:26:43
it to the conglomerate and now it's
2:26:45
doing big business, it's
2:26:47
making all this money, it's doing better than
2:26:49
it ever has and he became independently wealthy
2:26:51
for the sale of the company to the
2:26:53
conglomerate that he still allegedly was supposed to
2:26:55
be running. But
2:26:57
now because he's being overruled
2:26:59
on some of his decisions, he
2:27:02
wants to take the money that he made selling
2:27:05
the first company to the conglomerate and
2:27:07
start his own company so he can
2:27:09
book it the way he wants to
2:27:11
but what is the talent's reason to
2:27:14
go with him? Because
2:27:16
usually when that happens, when a guy
2:27:19
wants to split off and start his own
2:27:21
company, everybody of me, the business is down,
2:27:23
everybody's disgruntled, nobody's making any money.
2:27:27
It's all the shits, this company that says now
2:27:29
is making $10 million a year over there in
2:27:33
Japan and I would
2:27:35
assume these young ladies are making more money
2:27:37
so if he already found
2:27:39
the conglomerate to sell it to, then if
2:27:43
he starts another company, it's
2:27:46
going to automatically be the second largest
2:27:48
women's wrestling company in the country because
2:27:50
this is the biggest and
2:27:54
is he going to use his own money to
2:27:56
pay these women as much money as this conglomerate
2:27:58
would pay them? And
2:28:00
how is the number two company starting
2:28:03
from scratch going
2:28:05
to compete against the established
2:28:09
existing number one company with all this
2:28:11
finance behind it etc. So
2:28:13
what is the talent's reason to follow
2:28:16
him past they like him and he did
2:28:19
a great job building the company up to sell it
2:28:21
the first time? Where is he gonna
2:28:23
find another angel? I
2:28:26
don't know but going back to what Dave
2:28:28
wrote about the relationship between AEW and him
2:28:30
because again the Tony Khan
2:28:34
tantrum about this got a lot of attention but
2:28:36
that was what Tony Khan wanted he wanted people
2:28:38
to see this. Ogawa
2:28:41
and Omega did work together
2:28:44
eventually and Rio was
2:28:46
used regularly by stardom while
2:28:48
under contract to AEW but
2:28:51
part of the deal from Omega
2:28:53
and Khan was that she
2:28:55
not lose in Japan. Oh good
2:28:58
lord. Ogawa agreed to it. Oh good
2:29:00
lord wait a minute. Tony
2:29:03
Khan actually thought enough
2:29:05
of that minute bucktooth
2:29:07
flousy little girl to
2:29:10
say well oh
2:29:13
my god no she can't lose a
2:29:15
match in Japan while she's on my
2:29:17
TV in the United States. What
2:29:20
the fuck is he thinking? Ogawa
2:29:23
agreed to it and
2:29:25
put the high-speed title on her and
2:29:28
when it was time for her to lose
2:29:30
they made it a three-way so she
2:29:32
could lose the title without being pinned.
2:29:34
Oh good lord. Although in time stardom
2:29:37
felt hamstrung by that and
2:29:40
Rio's tenure with stardom ended.
2:29:43
And there was rioting in the streets
2:29:45
when when they announced oh no more Rio.
2:29:47
Why did they not want to work with
2:29:49
AEW anymore because they sent over Rio and
2:29:51
said you have to book her like Hulk
2:29:53
Hogan. That may have
2:29:55
something to do with it. Oh
2:29:59
Good Lord. The. So.
2:30:01
Anyway, now we gotta wait and find out whether
2:30:03
all of the. All.
2:30:05
The wrestlers engage in a revolt
2:30:07
and leaves stardom and go to
2:30:09
Rossi and he does the whole
2:30:11
thing all over again. And.
2:30:14
In the meantime, hopefully this means
2:30:16
that we will see less outlaw
2:30:18
Japanese female talent in a w
2:30:20
than we've ad in the past.
2:30:24
Your. They'll all be tied up with her own business
2:30:26
over there. Such. A thing
2:30:28
to to think that in a we talk about
2:30:30
the women's division our issues with it. There's a
2:30:32
chance than a promoter over there of a bit
2:30:35
as Japanese Women's. Wrestling Company or the
2:30:37
Book I guess Now. He agrees
2:30:39
it has one is women on a Wt reserves
2:30:41
and will be used. As. At something
2:30:43
isn't. Around maybe got more
2:30:45
sense of we get credit for. Will.
2:30:48
Gym a nother Executive. Play.
2:30:50
Musical Chairs and seeing the same
2:30:52
tune. Independently. Wealthy trying
2:30:54
to put together a deal for his
2:30:56
own thing. One. Of the by the
2:30:59
company. Lots of stories around there bud. Big.
2:31:01
Scott Dumb or. Has.
2:31:03
Been fired from a a Double.
2:31:05
He wishes. Fire from
2:31:07
Cnn. impact. Or. Impact
2:31:09
or T and A whatever it officially is
2:31:12
at this moment. They.
2:31:14
Have parted ways with. The. Man a
2:31:16
lot of people think is responsible. For.
2:31:19
The. Resurgence of. See. It
2:31:21
as. A for the last few
2:31:23
years. Will end and we laugh.
2:31:26
But look how shitty it was. It
2:31:28
has apparently gotten better because it couldn't
2:31:30
hardly get much worse. But. At.
2:31:32
The again this is another is the same
2:31:34
say was goddamn more and rio you know
2:31:36
where they have a couple a thing that
2:31:38
they get ideas from each other. The story
2:31:40
now is out of the blue. Outta.
2:31:43
Nowhere. Scarred.
2:31:45
The more they announced the and some.
2:31:48
People. In Canada their. Anthem.
2:31:51
Is the name of their big
2:31:53
Overlord company. The. Ass. There's a
2:31:55
yeah The yeah spurs their the owner
2:31:57
the and they have aspirations their the
2:31:59
own. owners of Access TV
2:32:01
and TNA Impact Wrestling and
2:32:04
the Fight Network and I don't
2:32:07
know a couple of buggy whip factories, whatever
2:32:09
big business, the curling, the curling
2:32:11
industry owes a lot to the Aspers. I'm
2:32:13
pretty sure up there. But
2:32:16
anyway, out of the blue, they say, Scott
2:32:19
DeBore is done. He's no longer with
2:32:21
us. And he's
2:32:23
being replaced by some unknown
2:32:26
civilian that works
2:32:28
for the men executive and first
2:32:32
of all, when they put, it's
2:32:34
automatically a reason for mass
2:32:36
panic because every time that
2:32:40
a real world executive is put in
2:32:42
charge of a wrestling company, shit goes
2:32:44
south fairly quickly because they don't know
2:32:46
what they're doing. They don't know how to speak the language. They don't know
2:32:48
how to deal with the people. It's
2:32:50
always a disaster. But
2:32:53
in this case, they
2:32:55
not only are doing
2:32:58
that, but also they've done it when
2:33:00
we haven't been
2:33:02
watching them because I gave up on
2:33:04
the thing quite a while back when
2:33:07
they were doing murder mysteries and
2:33:09
putting people in other dimensions and then bringing
2:33:12
the dead back to life or whatever the
2:33:14
fuck. We're all right. And they got so
2:33:16
far off the radar that
2:33:18
who gives a shit and we can only, we only got so much time.
2:33:21
But everybody that watches the thing has
2:33:23
said, well, their shows have been better.
2:33:27
And we laughed at him for changing the name, but
2:33:29
apparently impact it sucks
2:33:31
so bad that TNA was the nostalgic
2:33:33
thing that they liked better, even
2:33:36
though they made fun of it at the time. So
2:33:39
they've been doing better shows. Their business has
2:33:41
been picking up. Do
2:33:43
more, you know, for whatever else
2:33:45
you can say, he's been dedicated to this
2:33:47
thing. Everybody says, oh, he he's fucking worked
2:33:49
his ass off and he's tried
2:33:52
to do whatever he can do to rebuild this more
2:33:54
abundant enterprise after the Carter
2:33:57
era and all the other shit that went on.
2:34:01
And then they just fire him. And then when they have
2:34:03
a call with the
2:34:05
talent or whatever the Zoom thing or
2:34:07
whatever they did, they
2:34:10
led by lying saying that Scott had
2:34:12
stepped down when everybody knew
2:34:14
that that was not the truth that
2:34:16
they'd fired him. They
2:34:19
should have led with, Demore, no more.
2:34:23
Demore has been demoralized. But
2:34:28
basically, it's the same situation that we're
2:34:30
kind of starting to hear now that
2:34:33
Demore had been upset because he was doing
2:34:35
these things and that thing and the other
2:34:37
thing, but he couldn't get a bigger budget.
2:34:39
He couldn't get them to hire certain people.
2:34:42
He was getting overruled on things and he
2:34:44
had made an offer to try
2:34:47
to buy the company
2:34:50
from the anthem. And
2:34:55
I don't know whether this is known.
2:34:57
I think Demore's family, since I was
2:34:59
working down there, has been involved in
2:35:01
a big construction company. Construction, that's right.
2:35:03
He's a big shot on the construction
2:35:05
side I hear. Yes.
2:35:09
And so that's what, you know, he's in
2:35:11
the past, he's done that in some cases
2:35:13
when he decided, oh, I'm going to stay
2:35:15
away from wrestling. He's worked his family's business.
2:35:18
They've got money,
2:35:20
but they wouldn't even deal with
2:35:23
him on making an offer or whatever, trying
2:35:25
to sell him the company. And
2:35:28
then they just, you know, basically I
2:35:30
guess it got to the point where they
2:35:32
couldn't live together anymore and they had to decide
2:35:35
to... The rumor that went around wasn't even about his
2:35:37
family's money. I think the rumor that went around was
2:35:39
he had a note from a bank. Well,
2:35:42
yes. I mean, he has money. His family
2:35:44
has started a business. I'm sure he's got
2:35:46
a significant portion of that business. I'm not
2:35:48
saying he's like Tony Khan
2:35:50
and using his dad's allowance or whatever. I'm
2:35:53
saying that, yes, they
2:35:55
have other business besides wrestling and the
2:35:57
DeMore family and Scott could potentially afford
2:35:59
this. He had a letter of
2:36:01
credit from a bank, he had some way
2:36:03
of proving that he had backing or whatever, they wouldn't
2:36:05
talk to him about it. But
2:36:10
now they're trying to paint
2:36:13
the move as positive from the Anthem
2:36:15
side and that they've decided to take
2:36:18
the company and
2:36:20
completely integrate it into
2:36:22
all the other Anthem businesses. That
2:36:25
means they weren't doing that till now.
2:36:28
What kind of fucking morons are you?
2:36:31
If you've got one business
2:36:34
that you own wholeheartedly outright
2:36:36
and you have other businesses that
2:36:38
could help give that
2:36:41
business publicity or
2:36:44
help it in any way, shape, or form,
2:36:47
establish or expand its business, wouldn't you
2:36:49
work together on those things if you
2:36:52
own them all? So
2:36:55
there is saying by now making this
2:36:57
change to do all of this
2:36:59
good stuff we're going to do to make impact bigger, we
2:37:01
reveal that we've just figured out we've owned this thing
2:37:03
for about six years and we could have done this the
2:37:05
whole time. What? What did you
2:37:09
make of that explanation? I
2:37:12
think something about this whole thing smells
2:37:14
funny and hopefully, thank you Scott, which
2:37:16
was trending briefly, ages better
2:37:18
than thank you Vince did. Because
2:37:21
the reason we're being given makes no sense.
2:37:24
Apparently, the more new things we're going to change
2:37:26
so he made an offer to buy the company. When
2:37:29
you don't want to sell something, it's kind of weird when all of a
2:37:32
sudden someone comes up to you like, I'm ready to buy it. That's
2:37:34
a little weird. The timing of
2:37:37
this is weird considering not
2:37:39
only they rebranded as TNA, but he's been front
2:37:41
and center as the biggest cheerleader. For
2:37:44
good reason, he's the executive, but really
2:37:46
out there doing interviews,
2:37:49
talking about it. I saw
2:37:51
a promo we did in the ring, have
2:37:53
to say, was very passionate. So
2:37:56
all of a sudden he's gone. They
2:37:59
give conflicting reasons. about
2:38:01
to why he's gone. He stepped down, he
2:38:06
was asked to leave. And besides that, this whole
2:38:08
idea of okay, the reason for this is we're
2:38:11
putting this other executive from a place, another
2:38:14
department in Anthem in charge of the company,
2:38:16
so that he can make sure that all
2:38:19
of our companies are working together to fully
2:38:21
promote TNA wrestling
2:38:23
and integrate
2:38:26
their stars on our other
2:38:28
television programs and other genres.
2:38:32
Great! What does that have to do
2:38:34
with Scott DeMoure, the experienced guy that's
2:38:36
got it this far continuing to run
2:38:38
the company while you integrate their
2:38:41
product into all your other...
2:38:44
It's like oh, we could
2:38:46
have done this all along but goddamn DeMoure
2:38:48
was running the thing. What? That
2:38:50
does not make sense. The way this was
2:38:52
all done, and based on
2:38:54
various things in the past that were
2:38:56
talked about, you have to wonder
2:38:58
if maybe there's anything else going on behind this
2:39:00
that all of a sudden right now
2:39:03
where they have a working
2:39:05
relationship with WWE which may be more important than everything
2:39:07
else they have going on, they
2:39:10
got one of their champions on the Royal Rumble
2:39:12
and Sheila Gooden there. They didn't just dump
2:39:14
her out right away. They
2:39:16
talked about her being in the other company. So
2:39:19
there's something going on there. For
2:39:21
right now, for Scott DeMoure to be
2:39:23
pushed out, it has
2:39:25
to be more than he just... He
2:39:28
was frustrated so he wanted to buy the
2:39:30
company so they fired him. That
2:39:34
doesn't make too much fucking sense. Well
2:39:36
maybe they confused him with Rossy O'Gawa. He wanted
2:39:38
them to have a bigger budget so he said,
2:39:40
I'm going to give you money. I want to
2:39:43
buy the company. They said, we don't want to
2:39:45
do that. And he said, okay, I'll
2:39:47
go back to work. And they said, you're fired. Yes.
2:39:50
That's a natural progression of events right there.
2:39:52
I can't see it happening any other way.
2:39:54
Has Scott DeMoure said anything? I
2:39:57
guess he hasn't. I haven't seen a quote from... I
2:39:59
haven't. I. Have not
2:40:01
heard of any statement but what to
2:40:03
find? Army Giddy. With. A fire
2:40:06
they say step down to they force in the
2:40:08
sauna resignation for one reason or another. That's.
2:40:10
One of the things we have to find out
2:40:12
and were know that this the story that I
2:40:15
was hearing is that again you know they knew
2:40:17
that it was his, both sides knew that it
2:40:19
was coming, that they were coming to an impasse
2:40:21
at it was just a case of. Not.
2:40:24
Sure when it was going to be announced the
2:40:26
public within as soon as. It
2:40:28
was announced it's a dumb or is done
2:40:30
via nor do more Step down on that
2:40:32
To the talent. And. That was
2:40:34
not the way was phrased initially. And
2:40:37
they were trying to soften the blow. And lot
2:40:39
of people are pissed off because again, Unnamed
2:40:43
executives. Who. Have never been
2:40:45
in charge of. Anything meaningful involving
2:40:47
wrestling are now in charge of all these
2:40:49
people's fucking futures While gets worse. According to
2:40:52
the Observer, nothing was said about Creative,
2:40:54
but there was a belief that Tommy Dreamer,
2:40:56
who was second in command, would be in
2:40:58
charge. But. Neither he nor
2:41:00
anyone else was told that. Dream.
2:41:03
Or Gail Kim and Rd Evans where
2:41:05
the key people with the more on
2:41:08
the creative end. And
2:41:10
when I got wet. When when learn I just
2:41:12
got mad at me one time in the summer
2:41:14
of, oh five before the big blow up. They.
2:41:17
Put dreamer in charge of o Debbie
2:41:19
booking for about four weeks before I
2:41:21
came back about zebra it out and.
2:41:24
My. God it almost put us all out
2:41:26
of business. Nobody knew what to favor. the boy
2:41:28
Betty Davis it was. I a steady as of
2:41:30
what the fuck is going on with his Tv
2:41:33
I said i don't know. Tommy.
2:41:35
Learned all the of. The bad
2:41:38
Habits from a Heyman. Shoot.
2:41:40
Everything. Have it in your mind
2:41:42
and will do extensive post production.
2:41:45
The. Only problem is Heyman was the only one because that
2:41:47
a large bowl was here that had enough room in
2:41:49
his mind to have all that his mind. Will.
2:41:52
Back to this got the more gone from t
2:41:54
name again. as we just said notches the person
2:41:56
running up and head of Creative. so
2:42:00
Whatever this move is, it's something
2:42:03
that definitely changes the dynamic of everything
2:42:05
there. I remember Dutch Mantell
2:42:07
calls me on the phone about two months after
2:42:09
I joined TNA in 2006. And
2:42:13
that's when Demore had been on the
2:42:15
creative team before with, I
2:42:18
think, Jeremy Borash and out
2:42:20
on two or three people along with Dutch Mantell
2:42:23
and Jeff Jarrett. And
2:42:25
Dutch opened the call with, well, Dixie
2:42:28
just fired everybody on the creative team
2:42:31
except me and Jeff. I said, well,
2:42:33
that's a good start because
2:42:36
there needed to be fewer instead of more. And
2:42:39
then he said, and she just
2:42:41
hired Vince Russo. And I said, well,
2:42:44
I quit. And
2:42:46
then that began that whole thing. But so
2:42:48
we've kind of told that story, but we've
2:42:50
glossed over the reason why. As
2:42:53
I was told, as I recall, that they
2:42:55
fired everybody else besides Dutch and Jeff on
2:42:57
the creative team. And
2:43:00
Scott Demore led that
2:43:02
crew that was fired is because they caught Demore
2:43:04
trying to take the company over from him. This
2:43:07
was 2006. Really?
2:43:09
I don't know about that. Yes. Somewhere
2:43:11
or another, either
2:43:13
Demore was trying to go behind Jeff's
2:43:15
back to Dixie or
2:43:19
Badmau, whatever the fuck, but he wanted to run the
2:43:21
fucking thing then. It's almost 20 years ago. And
2:43:26
then a year later, they brought him back, I
2:43:28
guess, maybe not a year, maybe about a year.
2:43:30
I don't know. The aficionados of the company can
2:43:32
look up that timeline. And I just said,
2:43:35
well, why did they bring it? Demore back.
2:43:37
We tried to steal the company. He
2:43:39
promised he wouldn't do it anymore. Oh,
2:43:41
my God. Bob Loop. More like
2:43:44
Ronnie Gossett. Ronnie
2:43:47
Gossett sold Nick's territory and ended up working
2:43:49
for Jerry Jarrett years later. He promised he
2:43:51
wouldn't sell mine. What do you think? I
2:43:54
mean, what do you think he'll do with this big budget he has to
2:43:56
buy a company? Will he buy the NW-1? you
2:44:00
a will you buy a women
2:44:02
of wrestling? Well, there's nothing
2:44:05
worth buying because
2:44:08
everything that, that exists
2:44:10
is where it is.
2:44:12
You couldn't, if you bought
2:44:14
WCW thing though, like WCW was being sold,
2:44:16
but you needed the TV. If the
2:44:19
company that owns TNA is the company
2:44:21
airing TNA, what are you really buying
2:44:23
the archive? Oh,
2:44:25
you're not buying it at the TV spot. You
2:44:28
buy an opportunity, son. You're
2:44:31
buying opera, the opportunity to go out there and
2:44:33
build a whole thing all over again and get
2:44:35
it on something else. I mean, maybe the deal
2:44:37
with I'll buy the company, just air it and
2:44:40
I'll buy the thing and do everything
2:44:43
who knows, but
2:44:45
there is no wrestling promotion in
2:44:47
the world right now available to
2:44:49
be bought that's worth buying. Nobody's
2:44:53
going to buy the WWE
2:44:55
and it's the only one that's worth anything. AEW,
2:44:59
my God, if
2:45:01
anybody was to buy it, you'd
2:45:03
have to take over the ridiculous
2:45:06
fucking talent roster and the overpaid
2:45:08
talent and the plethora of contracts
2:45:10
and the, the,
2:45:12
you know, ridiculous arena contracts that
2:45:14
have been signed where you're running
2:45:17
arenas that seat 20,000 for 2000 people and the massive overspending
2:45:22
in every element of
2:45:24
the fucking company and
2:45:26
you'd never make your money back
2:45:28
and the reputation that here's the
2:45:31
number two company that draws the same amount
2:45:34
of people every week on TV in, you
2:45:36
know, and one show does good,
2:45:38
the other show does, and the other shows rotten.
2:45:41
What are you buying? If you buy impact right now,
2:45:47
that's the thing that you just said, unless the
2:45:49
company that owns it now sells it to you
2:45:51
and still airs the TV, you're buying a fucking
2:45:54
wrestling promotion with no television. Ring
2:45:57
of honor. part
2:46:00
of Tony Khan's collection. He's
2:46:03
got it in his memorabilia room and he
2:46:05
puts it out on YouTube every once in
2:46:07
a while. It doesn't really exist. So that's
2:46:09
not worth anything. Global force wrestling. It's
2:46:12
it's gone. And,
2:46:15
and, and they, they fucking erased the
2:46:18
tapes. That
2:46:20
was real fucking ill will on their part.
2:46:24
What other wrestling promotion exists today
2:46:26
that anybody could buy and do
2:46:28
anything differently with it than what
2:46:30
is being done now? Well,
2:46:34
we'll see what happens. It's got to know that was
2:46:36
a question. Is there's no answer of one. I can't
2:46:38
think of one of any value. No. Anybody
2:46:41
buys one right now. What are, even if they've
2:46:43
got unlimited money, what are they going to do
2:46:45
with it? In the first two
2:46:47
years, it's going to make it any different
2:46:49
than what's gone on. So you use
2:46:51
the, if you are insistent on being in wrestling, use
2:46:54
that money and start a promotion. Don't buy anything because
2:46:56
you have a better chance with the low overhead. Start
2:46:59
your own. And what
2:47:01
the fuck difference is it going to make? You probably ain't
2:47:03
going to get anywhere anyway, but at
2:47:05
least you wouldn't be just paying
2:47:07
however many million dollars for something
2:47:09
that's flop so far already. Well,
2:47:13
as we said before, the more, no more, but
2:47:15
I'm sure you can find them riding around a
2:47:17
tractor like a big boy on the construction site.
2:47:20
Jim, let's get at least one
2:47:22
more thing before we get out of here on the
2:47:24
experience. We're going to talk dynamite and
2:47:27
all the Vince McMahon resignation news and
2:47:30
John Lornitis and Ashley Masaro
2:47:32
and just
2:47:34
one thing after. And Billy Jack.
2:47:37
Well, Billy Jack. Let's tell the people
2:47:39
right now. You can talk about that now.
2:47:41
Let's get that done. Well, let's, but let's
2:47:43
also tell the people what you had no
2:47:46
fucking earthly clue of what I was talking
2:47:48
about. Billy Jack, 110 Soldier,
2:47:52
hit song, 1971 top 40, the group coven. You
2:47:58
God damn you didn't know what I was singing. On
2:48:01
the bloody morning after,
2:48:03
one tin soldier rides
2:48:05
away. Ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,
2:48:07
ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,
2:48:09
ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,
2:48:11
ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,
2:48:13
ta-da. Though
2:48:16
the people of the mountain sent
2:48:18
the message down the hill of
2:48:21
the gold that's buried wherever in our valley
2:48:23
we will share, I can't remember the words,
2:48:25
but it's 50 years ago, but it was
2:48:27
a goddamn hit song. You've never heard that
2:48:29
song. It's weird that it's
2:48:31
one person singing, but you sound like two
2:48:34
insects being multi-tracked. Uh, no, I'm-
2:48:36
There was harmony on the song. There's some crap
2:48:38
shit that was released too that didn't really survive
2:48:41
to today that people don't like rave about, so
2:48:43
I'll check it out sometime, but- That
2:48:45
was an incredible movie with a hit
2:48:47
theme song that potentially
2:48:49
was- And I think it did
2:48:52
well in the Oscar running as
2:48:54
well, and it was
2:48:56
the year before there's
2:48:58
got to be a morning after from the
2:49:01
Poseidon Adventure. There's
2:49:03
got to be a morning after. Oh, stop. Come
2:49:05
on. Come on. Come on. There's
2:49:08
only so much time. See, on the bloody morning
2:49:10
after, then there's got to be a morning after.
2:49:14
It was a whole series in the Oscars
2:49:16
in the early 70s about morning afters. They
2:49:18
even named a pill after it, but the
2:49:20
bloody morning after, and then there's got to
2:49:23
be a morning after, and- I
2:49:26
feel like there's a disconnect. Well,
2:49:28
see? Because you haven't heard that song. Billy Jack
2:49:31
Haynes- Look it up. All right, well, let's talk
2:49:33
about the Billy Jack in wrestling, who of course
2:49:35
took the name Billy Jack and the gimmick and
2:49:37
the hat and everything from the movie- Yes. Out
2:49:40
of the Pacific Northwest, out of Portland, Oregon, in
2:49:43
the early 80s. One
2:49:46
of those guys that was on the cover of a bunch
2:49:48
of magazines before he even did anything. And
2:49:51
then what he did didn't go to where I think a lot
2:49:53
of people thought it would have. And
2:49:55
now the word out, and I don't know if it's
2:49:57
official or not, but- Report.
2:50:00
importantly, Billy Jack Haynes murdered
2:50:03
his wife this past week and
2:50:06
was arrested either in
2:50:08
Portland or just outside of it. What
2:50:12
do you know about all this? And let's talk a little bit
2:50:14
about someone who the older he
2:50:16
got, the wilder a personality he
2:50:18
became, Billy Jack Haynes. Well,
2:50:20
apparently it is legitimate because some of
2:50:22
the inside
2:50:24
wrestling folks over there in
2:50:27
the Pacific Northwest have said because the
2:50:29
news at first said an ex-pro wrestler
2:50:33
has been arrested after a standoff.
2:50:37
Apparently people heard gunshots, a gunshot
2:50:39
or gunshots coming from the house,
2:50:42
house in a quiet neighborhood
2:50:44
somewhere outside of,
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