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Episode 329

Released Tuesday, 13th February 2024
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0:00

Hello again, friends! And

0:03

you are our friends! I

0:06

gotta do it again!

0:10

Haha, this isn't perfect, this isn't

0:12

perfect for this show, leave it

0:15

in! This... I don't know

0:17

how to begin it now because we've done this already!

0:20

Haha! On multiple days, welcome

0:22

to Jim Cornette's drive-through, I'm the great

0:24

Brian Last. We have

0:26

so much to get to. We have

0:29

done this many times, many days,

0:31

and we're not having

0:33

a merry, merry time of

0:35

this. Let me take

0:37

over, that's a safe bet every time, Brian

0:39

Last. This is numerous times we have tried

0:41

to start this program, this is the drive-through,

0:44

you're the great Brian Last. I'm of course

0:46

Jim Cornette, who else would I be? Nobody

0:49

else would be sitting here still with you after

0:51

the fucking procedures we've gone

0:53

through. But

0:55

the world is burning, there's all kinds of

0:57

news to talk about, and

1:00

we've been trying to talk about it. And normally,

1:02

I get a

1:04

lot of guff, Brian Last. Are you still there, by the

1:06

way? Just speak to me so I know you're there. I

1:08

am still here. Okay. Are you

1:10

still there? Well, let me

1:13

know if you can't hear me, just

1:15

speak up. And the people

1:17

will find out why this is going on in

1:19

a second. But normally I get a lot of

1:21

guff for my substandard internet. I got the spectrum

1:24

internet, and the boogie-woogie

1:26

flu, and it's shitty

1:28

internet, and they rip me

1:30

off, they don't give me what I pay for, et

1:32

cetera. We've gone over that many times. They

1:34

can't ever fix it, they come out and make it worse. But

1:38

your internet, oh, whenever

1:40

you check the speed, it's blazing fast.

1:42

It's blazing so fast it's setting shit

1:44

on fire, going across the desk. But

1:48

for the past 48 hours, we've been trying

1:50

to do this breaking

1:52

news, newsworthy program. And what have

1:54

we got from your

1:56

internet service, the infinity service, right?

2:00

The infinity internet service, you got up

2:02

to infinity and beyond. Well,

2:05

it's been beyond because

2:07

it ain't been worth a shit. And

2:10

we've been trying to do this

2:12

program and you've had

2:14

people out there and you've

2:17

had people on the phone and you've been

2:19

chatting with people and they've come and they've

2:21

done a variety of things numerous times, the

2:23

whole neighborhood, your whole enclave

2:25

up there has been affected. And

2:29

it just goes to show you, Brad, this has

2:31

proven a point that I've been making for a

2:33

long time about this internet, this

2:36

internet fad, this, this craze of the world

2:38

wide web. It's not going to last. It's

2:42

like the pet rock and the hula hoop. It's

2:45

a passing thing. And

2:48

the main reason for that is because nobody,

2:50

even the people who sell the

2:52

thing know how it

2:54

works, did or

2:57

did not. One of the alleged

3:00

technicians trying to fix your issues say

3:02

to you when he had talked

3:04

to people on the other end of the phone, he said, well,

3:06

they said they did something, but we don't think they really do

3:08

anything. They just say they did it. That's

3:11

exactly what he said. Cause I said, I spoke to the

3:13

person and they said they zapped something from their end. He

3:15

goes, man, we don't even know what they do. They

3:18

may not do anything. I said,

3:21

really? This is a guy working for their own company,

3:24

talking to someone else who works for them. Remember when a

3:26

guy was out here for hours and hours at the castle

3:28

and talked to the people on the phone, Oh, they're going

3:30

to, well, they didn't do it right. Oh,

3:33

they're going to do that. Well, they didn't do it right. And

3:35

it's gone. And then he showed me

3:37

the list of all the issues, all

3:40

the houses with issues. And I'm like, man,

3:42

the website says there is no reported outages,

3:44

no reported issues. It was every

3:46

single person on this. You know why? That's because

3:48

they're, they're running the website.

3:52

That's why they don't, they're not accountable. We

3:55

don't know. It

3:58

could be goddamn. something under

4:00

the ground, they had to

4:02

send a signal back to you to make

4:05

sure that your signal was receiving their signal,

4:07

so the signals could coalesce and coexist. They

4:11

don't know what they're fucking doing. But

4:14

anyway, we said because people,

4:16

this is such a ridiculous reason, people

4:18

are going to, ah fuck it, they

4:20

went to Las Vegas. Hookers

4:23

and Blow, they're spending all this YouTube money

4:25

on. They just blew off the

4:28

program. So we have

4:30

proof that we've been trying to do this

4:32

show. Because what

4:34

would happen is that suddenly

4:37

for whatever reason we don't know because

4:39

they don't know because nobody knows, we

4:43

would be talking and

4:45

then you would not, I would not be able

4:47

to hear you. You could

4:50

still hear me. Somehow

4:52

even though the internet was coming in and

4:54

out which would think it would be an

4:56

all-or-nothing proposition, you

4:59

could hear me but I could not hear you. And

5:02

this happened more than once. We didn't get a

5:04

minute in the first time. And

5:07

then we got a little bit longer the second time, but we

5:09

thought we would show the people the

5:11

challenges that we undergo in trying to just

5:14

do a simple thing like have a game.

5:17

Ma Bell never did this to us when we

5:19

did this shit on the phone back in the

5:21

old days. Would

5:24

you like to play for the people, the cult

5:26

of Cordad out there will expose our own business?

5:29

Something they were supposed to hear but then they

5:31

weren't going to hear it because it was scrap. But

5:33

now that it's become such goddamn ridiculous

5:35

proposition, we're going to play it anyway. I

5:39

guess so. Here's that mighty minute that we recorded trying

5:41

to open up the show a couple days ago. Hello

5:45

again friends and

5:47

you are our friends. We still don't have a

5:49

theme song over here and welcome back to another

5:51

edition of Jim Cornette's drive-through right here on another

5:54

day with so much to talk

5:56

about. We really want to get to

5:58

your questions but this just... Non-stop

6:01

crap everywhere. I'm your host, the

6:03

great Brian Last. I'll be

6:05

sifting through this crap. With this man,

6:08

the leader of the cult of

6:10

crap, Mr. Jim Cornett. Hey! Now

6:12

do not...do not bendy

6:14

around a substitution for

6:16

my name. Made

6:19

of fecal matter, you...you

6:21

turd blossom. Hey. Hey, I've got

6:23

a theme song for I do

6:26

you wanna go to the drive-thru?

6:28

Oh, God. Go to

6:30

the drive-thru. See, I was singing

6:32

to you, much

6:34

to your chagrin, before we went on the air.

6:38

You said, we're gonna have a party today

6:40

on the show. I said, do you wanna

6:42

go potty? That is another one of Harley

6:44

Quinn's potty songs. Do

6:47

you wanna go potty? We'll piss

6:50

over there. Potty. We'll

6:53

poop anywhere. Potty.

6:56

That type of thing. Alright,

6:59

well... Hello? Yeah,

7:01

hello. Oh,

7:03

you're not ribbing me now. I'm

7:05

right here. Can you hear me? Hello?

7:11

We got a minute in. Fucking...can

7:14

you hear me now? Son

7:17

of a bitch. Alrighty then. Hello.

7:22

Well, Jim, there it is. The attempt that we made to

7:24

open up the show the other day, we got about a

7:26

minute in, and... I could hear

7:28

you, you couldn't hear me, we gave up, but

7:30

we did try again. Well, yes,

7:32

because, you know, you

7:34

had called or texted or got in

7:37

contact with these people, and

7:39

registered a complaint, and they were trying to

7:41

do something. We thought, well, we'll take another

7:43

swing at this thing. And

7:46

this was a little bit later, and we got a

7:48

little bit further down the road this time. That

7:51

we did. Let's go to the next attempt

7:54

to open up the show. Open

7:56

two, I guess we'll call it, right

7:58

now. Hell... Hello again

8:00

friends! And you are our

8:03

friends and it's another packed episode so

8:05

let's not waste any time on the

8:07

Great Brian Lassra host. Here he is!

8:09

Mr. Jim Cornett! Oh god damn you!

8:11

Oh just,

8:13

fire upon you! I- I- We

8:16

upon your grave, sir, for- for

8:18

that. God damn it.

8:22

For- for that and many other things, what-

8:25

what the people, the cult of

8:27

Cornett don't know is that we've

8:29

already done the introduction of the program where

8:32

you droned on forever and then I jumped

8:34

in and saved it. And

8:36

then even sang a song and nobody's

8:39

ever gonna hear that because

8:41

your inner- your internet, your

8:44

high speed blazing fast, blistering

8:46

pace, internet,

8:49

drop the goddamn ball

8:51

somehow and after

8:53

I'd done all of that and- and now

8:56

you've just handed me off on our second

8:58

try, you've handed me off a fucking cold

9:00

tag. Iceberg tag!

9:03

My hand just fell off from

9:05

Frostbite, Brian. We've

9:07

had some internet issues here today at Last

9:10

Manor in the general vicinity. Oh, yes, you

9:12

sound like shit right now! You

9:15

sound completely like shit right now. But

9:17

you see on the recording I'll sound fine so people are

9:20

gonna think that you're just putting me down. Well...

9:24

He's in love with me and I feel

9:26

fine. Whatever that- I

9:29

don't know. Anyway... Yeah, they were singing about

9:31

Pearl, but yeah, go ahead. Well, she's in

9:33

love, he's in love, whoever's in love, love

9:36

is in the air. Love is

9:38

in the air, love is like oxygen. Okay. Anyway,

9:45

so I was gonna tell you about

9:48

the miraculous thing that happened here at

9:50

the castle yesterday before

9:52

we had all of your internet problems. Normally

9:54

it's my spectrum, but in this case

9:57

it's your blazing fast internet that always

9:59

gets praised. pet it on. We

10:02

had an amazing occurrence in

10:05

the first week of February. Would you like

10:07

to know what that was? An

10:10

amazing occurrence? Yes. I have

10:15

no idea. We had a cookout.

10:20

That's an amazing occurrence? In the first

10:22

week of February it is and for

10:25

the month of January we

10:27

had seven inches of rain here and we're

10:29

like three and a half inches ahead where

10:31

we were in a drought for four

10:34

months or whatever. And it

10:36

was cold and it got down to goddamn teen

10:39

below zero wind chills. And

10:43

then all of a sudden the last several days

10:45

in the first week of February the average high

10:47

has been 60 degrees. It was

10:49

sunny yesterday. Stace got

10:52

the brand new meat

10:56

barbecue smoker thingy do.

11:00

And we had just got it in the fall and

11:02

only had a chance to use it a time or

11:04

two and it's sitting out there. And we

11:07

said, well we'll just barbecue smoke

11:09

us some chicken. I don't know

11:13

what exactly the process is. You put it in

11:15

and you close the lid and there's smoke coming

11:17

out of the thing. So

11:19

I don't know technically if that qualifies as a

11:21

barbecue or a smoker but we had delicious

11:25

chicken with the

11:27

wood chicken breast with the Woody's cooking sauce.

11:29

You can't beat that with a stick. And

11:32

had corned and had mashed

11:35

taters and had a nice little cookout.

11:40

First week of February. I can see

11:42

you're impressed. Yeah.

11:45

Maybe you're just off the air again and

11:47

I can't. No, no, I'm taking it all

11:49

in. You're a cookout. The fact that

11:51

you're calling a cookout is pretty funny. What

11:54

do you mean? That's a cookout. We

11:56

cooked out. It was out in the yard and we were

11:58

cooking. In the yard. on the deck? No

12:01

it's out in the yard. If

12:04

people could see you like if they drive by

12:06

there's like hey there's a couple out there having

12:08

a cookout on the front lawn. A little bonfire.

12:11

We're in the backyard we're not in

12:14

the front yard but what difference would

12:16

it make if people came by

12:18

and saw us in our own

12:20

backyard in our own property. I dare you

12:22

to do it in your front yard. You'd

12:28

be on the news. For

12:30

what? For starting a fire on your

12:32

front lawn and cooking? Well

12:35

for one thing if somebody is looking all the way

12:38

up in my front yard up here in front of

12:40

the house from the road as they're driving by they're

12:42

gonna fucking run off the road and run into a

12:44

tree anyway. Or a

12:49

fence. It would take

12:51

some concentration to be driving down the road and suddenly

12:53

well I'll just stare up a couple or 300 feet

12:55

in this guy's front yard and see if I can

12:57

see anybody having a fucking call. There they are. What's

13:01

that smoke? Where's that coming from? Oh they're

13:04

cooking a duck or whatever it is you want.

13:06

Somebody's watching a Cheech and Chong movie I don't

13:08

know. What do you think? Well

13:12

yes I did. Why are you changing? I'm

13:14

not finished blistering you about the goddamn first

13:16

topic yet. Oh I was finished I'm sorry.

13:20

45 years ago or whatever. They haven't done one

13:22

lately have they? No but

13:25

they hold on. And you're gone again. If

13:29

you can hear me all this

13:32

says is reconnecting on my

13:34

screen and your

13:36

max headroom sunglass wearing motherfucking

13:40

goddamn I hope you can hear me even if

13:42

I fart in your general direction. Where is this?

13:44

Yeah that's what I think of that. Boy

13:49

that was some hilarious banter that we were

13:51

into. The clock is still running here. We've

13:53

been on the air now for nine minutes

13:55

and seven seconds. Can you hear me? Apparently

13:58

this thing ain't gonna wreak a- connect us. Hello.

14:02

Hello. Can you hear me? Work

14:04

on the Skype about all day long.

14:07

Daylight go and Earth comes. Where

14:11

are these Earth?

14:17

Oh, now I

14:19

lost you. There it is. That's the

14:21

moment. That's the moment the music died.

14:25

And there it is. You hear the end of that.

14:27

That one, by the end

14:29

of it, no one could hear anything. That was

14:31

literally, let's take that offline. And

14:33

that's what happened. And then it

14:35

was just a nightmare. The guy came out here. The guy was great.

14:38

The guy said, hey, everything looks great here. Everything's

14:40

perfect here. It's coming into

14:42

the street. We think someone was doing construction

14:45

and may have cut the line, and the

14:47

Internet's leaking out. Wait a minute. What

14:49

is this? I said, really? Is

14:51

this like the goddamn water company?

14:53

They've plowed into the water main

14:55

and the Internet's leaking out in

14:57

the street. How would it be

15:00

not an all-or-nothing proposition if they'd

15:02

plowed through some goddamn line? As

15:06

a matter of fact, it was the cable

15:08

company at the old place

15:11

I used to live here many, many years ago that

15:13

came out trying to bury

15:16

my cable line and cut my goddamn

15:18

phone line. But it was

15:20

dead. So

15:23

the technician said they know there's an issue

15:25

in the area that his supervisor is hovering,

15:27

whatever the fuck that means, in Somerset

15:30

County, which is one county over, three

15:32

minutes away. Waiting

15:34

to start this process. They plan to start

15:36

it the next morning. It should be

15:38

done by 11 o'clock. The

15:40

website says 11.05. All right. Five-minute

15:43

discrepancy. 11.30,

15:46

Internet drops out. 11.32, Internet drops

15:48

out. Just keep dropping out. Like, what

15:50

the fuck? So then I start calling

15:52

and chatting where I get

15:55

a variety of answers and a multitude of $20

15:57

credits to my account. But

16:00

they can't give me a straight answer. Then they

16:02

tell me it's fixed. Then they tell me it's not fixed.

16:04

Then they tell me it'll be fixed in two to three

16:06

hours. They give me specific times.

16:10

Then they say I need a technician. And

16:13

I say, no! I had the technician!

16:15

He said it's not my house. You

16:17

guys gotta do work on the street. Just tell me

16:20

if that work's being done. Just

16:22

give me something. And

16:24

no one knows anything. None of them are even in this

16:26

country. And then they

16:28

say weird things to you. I'm

16:30

telling this woman on the phone, Luna

16:33

was her name. No! Yeah,

16:36

apparently that's not a common name. So

16:39

I'm telling Luna about all these issues I'm having. And

16:41

you know what she says to me? I'm

16:43

so sorry. I will do my best to help you remember

16:45

a smile is the best uniform we could wear. What?

16:49

What? What the fuck? I

16:51

said, well thank you, Luna.

16:53

When I can get back

16:55

to business, I'll be smiling

16:57

plenty. Have they given

16:59

a book of Bartlett's quotations to

17:01

these people to fucking spread joy

17:04

while they're hearing misery? I have

17:06

in a chat another guy was

17:08

like, as I'm telling him about

17:10

this, I'm like, yeah, I can't function without

17:13

the internet. Can you guys make this work? And he's like, sure,

17:15

I will give you a $20 credit. Also

17:17

please know that you, your family, and your business

17:19

will be in my prayers. What

17:22

the fuck? So,

17:27

you and the latest mass shooting

17:29

victims, we're keeping in our thoughts

17:32

and prayers. A smile is

17:34

the best uniform you could wear. What

17:37

the fuck is that? But

17:39

anyway, you know, I would have been saying, well,

17:41

I'm going to take you, I'm going to come

17:43

through this fucking telephone and wipe that fucking smile

17:45

off your face with a fucking sandblaster there, Pippi.

17:48

It was Luna and she sounded like she was smiling

17:50

as she said it so I couldn't help but smile.

17:52

And you know, this woman's very nice.

17:54

It's the fact that she works for a company

17:56

that's fucking up my internet. the

18:00

story, I may try to rally the

18:02

neighbors so we can lobby to get

18:04

FiOS, Verizon FiOS, in the neighborhood. What?

18:07

Pitchforks and torches rally the neighbors? They're gonna

18:09

be coming down the fucking street? Well the

18:12

people in my neighborhood may be people of

18:14

influence if pushed the right way.

18:17

Just well get your neighbor, Chris Christie's your

18:19

next door neighbor, right? He's

18:22

not next door, no. Well

18:24

down the street, you know. He's in

18:26

the area but let's not go into

18:28

anything that would violate secret service, privacy,

18:30

provisions or anything else. This is my

18:32

show. Is it true that when he

18:35

walks down the street he attracts kids

18:37

baseballs because he's got his own gravitational

18:39

pull? Again, I couldn't

18:41

comment one way or another on anything

18:43

of this nature. Alright, well let

18:45

me just say this. Just

18:48

while we've got the most important thing we've

18:50

got to get out here, while we've still

18:52

got some internet service, at least on both

18:54

of our ends, is that it's on sale

18:56

now folks. We've dicked around so long. The

18:59

Midnight Express and Heavenly Body's tag

19:01

team action figure sets are on

19:04

sale now at jimcornette.com. They went

19:06

on sale Saturday, February

19:08

10th at noon eastern. I'm sure you're not

19:10

gonna hear this before then.

19:14

And hopefully there are some left

19:16

if you go now to jimcornette.com.

19:19

We don't know because we're still recording before that

19:21

took place. You're not gonna hear it until afterwards

19:23

so we don't know what the status is. But

19:26

by gum if there's any left, get

19:28

them while they're hot because none of

19:31

these will be remade or reissued or

19:33

others produced in the future as we've been talking

19:35

about on the program. You

19:38

can get eaten in Condrey, you can get eaten

19:40

in Lane, you can get Lane and Dr. Tom

19:42

Pritchard the Heavenly Body's along

19:44

with the last remaining Midnight

19:46

Express four packs with all of

19:48

us, me, Bobby, Stan and Dennis

19:50

along with the autographed pictures, the

19:53

milestone books if those packages are

19:55

still available and so

19:57

much more. And this is the final

20:00

version of the or final chapter of the

20:03

Midnight Express 40th anniversary celebration. We're going

20:05

out with a bang with these exclusive

20:10

only available at Jim Cornette comm collector's

20:13

edition limited edition action figure

20:15

sets that are just just

20:17

beautiful just lovely They're

20:19

there so fine. They're pretty as a speckled

20:22

pup. I Can't

20:24

wait for the next place at Jim Cornette and

20:26

the internet repairman and it could just be like skull-splitting

20:29

tennis racket Well,

20:33

and my internet's not the internet needs repair. Oh,

20:35

you've had plenty of things with these guys come

20:37

you've had more issues With them coming over your

20:39

place than me over the last two days That's

20:41

why I don't let him come over my place

20:43

anymore. They're in the wall. Come on in

20:45

my house of my house I'm gonna

20:47

give you candy lure

20:49

him in with candy and Then

20:52

a suitable application of a blunt

20:54

instrument to the prefrontal lobe. You're

20:56

talking about the internet repairman Well,

21:00

whatever you're trying to catch candy is good

21:03

bait well, no candy is not good I

21:05

don't know what the hell you're talking about

21:07

there. Mr. Magoo, but this sounds bad advice.

21:09

Andy was dandy Candy

21:11

is dandy. That's right Well,

21:14

there you go All right.

21:16

Well Cuban B. Let's move on here

21:18

with the show and it's your program

21:20

and we got so much to talk

21:22

about There's people being sued. There's people

21:26

being turned in the heel It's

21:28

a very good ask this we money being

21:31

made go ahead. There's so much I don't

21:33

know where to begin and where to end

21:35

and what topics will do today and what

21:37

will be on the experience Which we're recording

21:39

tomorrow That's right. We're

21:41

making this like it's podcast mania night

21:43

one and night two Because

21:45

we got so much we're just gonna do two days in a

21:47

row Yes, except for

21:49

other than it being early morning instead

21:52

at night. It's just like that Well,

21:55

but you don't have to listen to this nearly morning

21:57

just because we're doing it nearly morning. There was so

21:59

much to talk about and then we had these

22:01

internet issues and then there would be more to talk

22:03

about and then more internet issues and the list just

22:05

kept building up. Let's start at the beginning of the

22:07

week. I think this may have been

22:09

one of the first things but we'll get everything all into

22:11

these two shows. WWE Raw on

22:14

the USA Network. Oh my

22:16

gosh! Well see I didn't know where you were going so

22:18

I got to grab my notes. Oh yes here's my notes.

22:21

Um I

22:24

think and we'll probably say this a couple

22:26

of times throughout the program but I

22:29

think it's fairly obvious that

22:31

they didn't mean to do

22:34

what they're doing but

22:37

it's what they're doing is probably going to be better

22:39

than what they were originally going to do. Did I

22:42

say that correctly? I think that is correct and I

22:44

think you said that correctly and I think the

22:47

way I said people would react to the Rock stuff

22:49

is exactly the way people reacted to it and

22:51

we'll get to the big pivot later on but leaning

22:54

into it and pivoting the way they did may have

22:57

produced something a whole lot more special. You

23:00

know because again people are now they're

23:02

like well wait a minute what the

23:04

fuck? And you know there's some people

23:06

oh they meant to do this all

23:08

along yeah they're just they're prognosticators on

23:10

the level of nostra dumbass or

23:14

they have sensed what they

23:16

got to backlash and they figured out

23:19

a way to capitalize

23:21

on it but who would have thought that

23:23

we would be talking

23:26

about the Rock as a heel

23:29

in 2024 and his

23:32

real-life animosity with

23:36

the fans such that his daughter's getting

23:38

death threats on Twitter according death threats

23:40

on Twitter it's kind of like a

23:42

low-fat Twinkie but still it's ridiculous to

23:44

think of but nevertheless on

23:47

Raw on February the 5th did you notice

23:50

that law and order goes

23:52

off right off the air right at 8 p.m.

23:54

sharp? I did I've been paying attention to

23:56

that ever since we noticed that the Big Bang Theory goes

23:59

a minute in the dynamite. Well,

24:01

over on the USA Network, they want to get

24:03

the reruns out of the way so they can

24:05

get the high rated first run programming underway. But

24:08

the SmackDown recap

24:10

with Cody

24:12

and Roman and The Rock and

24:15

the whole thing that started the

24:18

turmoil, it

24:20

came off better not only with

24:23

their world-class editing facility where they

24:25

could put it together but also

24:27

because as

24:30

we said, they're starting to leave that wiggle

24:32

room. Then

24:35

Seth Franklin Rollins limp

24:37

danced to the ring.

24:39

He's trying to do whatever

24:43

it is that he does on his entrance with

24:45

his bad knee and at the same time show

24:47

people he has a bad knee because he's wearing

24:49

the brace on over

24:52

his pants and it

24:54

just looks like an

24:56

old man that's constipated going

24:58

to the ring. It looks odd, does it

25:00

not? Yeah, I mean his whole general thing

25:03

is to look odd. I mean he has

25:05

giant shoulder pads like that Midware

25:07

or something. I don't know what the hell is

25:09

going on over there but... Where is the guy

25:11

from Talking Heads? David Byrne. Yes.

25:14

The other thing is he's kind of shown

25:16

in the last several weeks and several segments,

25:18

Cody, Drew McIntyre, are different things that

25:20

once you get past the whole, I'm a

25:22

revolutionary! Like, you know,

25:25

where's the revolution? Where's the vision? Where's all these

25:27

things? It's just you're saying these things. When

25:30

he's serious, he's really good. Yes,

25:33

it's all this other, you know, goofy stuff but we're getting

25:35

more of the serious Rollins lately and I like it. But

25:38

I'm wondering why that he's not

25:40

then... Because every Drew's getting serious

25:42

and Cody's in his

25:44

own way serious is a heart attack. And

25:46

Roman, why is Seth not stepping

25:50

in? He's still doing some of the... Whatever

25:52

it is, but then he will get serious

25:54

and you want to listen. But I wish

25:57

he'd go ahead and... and

26:01

come out and sell the fucking leg and

26:03

talk about how that he's not 100% but

26:06

by God, he's gonna

26:08

fucking succeed. You know, a little

26:11

gravitas to the situation. But

26:15

anyway, he

26:18

kind of tried to come back with

26:21

Rollins, or with Reigns rather, talking

26:24

about his big pops. And

26:27

as soon as he referenced SmackDown, they

26:30

started booing. And the

26:32

Cody chants, and they had the, we want

26:34

Cody signs. And he says,

26:36

well, I want Cody too. So

26:39

he called Cody out, and Cody does

26:41

the big entrance, and they get the

26:43

big chants. And

26:46

now the crowd is chanting, Rocky

26:48

sucks, we want Cody. And

26:52

one of the signs is Fire Dwayne.

26:57

And I told you this would happen. Well,

27:00

you don't have to sound like a goddamn

27:03

nagging wife about the water bill, for heaven's

27:05

sake. I told you you had that sink

27:08

running too long. Well,

27:10

you know, I had to brush my

27:12

teeth, honey, once a week. You could

27:14

turn off the sink while you're brushing

27:16

and turn it back on when you're

27:18

done. You've had practice at this. I've

27:20

heard this speech,

27:23

yes. Anyway, so

27:25

they've accomplished something here. I'm not sure

27:28

what. But then Seth wanted

27:30

an answer. He needs the

27:32

match as much as Cody does, the fans boo.

27:36

And Seth has to know that he's better than

27:38

the last time that they faced. Because Cody's

27:41

beaten him three times, right? It

27:44

was three. Yeah. Including with a

27:46

torn pec, with one arm. Yes.

27:49

So Seth says, are you going to fight

27:51

me at WrestleMania? The crowd boos and Drew's

27:54

music plays. And

27:56

Drew comes out and says, I

27:59

speak for everyone. Everybody, when I say, what the

28:01

hell? What the hell

28:03

are you doing? And

28:06

he proceeds to tell

28:08

fucking, you know,

28:10

the people what we're all thinking. Cody,

28:13

you got to finish your story and the

28:15

people, yay. And

28:17

Drew's got the t-shirt

28:19

on with the tombstone of, you

28:21

know, R.I. P. CM Punk's

28:23

WrestleMania main events. They're still working

28:25

that deal. And

28:27

Drew wants Seth at WrestleMania so he can

28:30

win that title and blah, blah, blah. And

28:33

then so Drew said big pitch to

28:36

Cody, don't let everybody, don't let your

28:38

dad down. And

28:40

then Seth tells Drew, don't be a prick. I've

28:44

beaten you twice. And then Drew, we'll go ahead. Let

28:46

me stop you there. When was the last time we

28:48

heard the word prick at eight o'clock

28:50

on USA network? Well, I think, you know,

28:52

with the headlines of the past few weeks,

28:54

I believe we've, we've probably raised the bar

28:57

on language a little bit at this point.

29:00

Um, but this was great because

29:03

that's when, when Seth said I've

29:05

beaten you twice, Drew.

29:07

Drew says, well, Cody's beat you

29:10

three times. And

29:12

I think Drew is becoming one of the

29:14

best promos in the WWE. But that

29:17

also means that

29:20

if Seth is beaten Drew twice and Cody's beaten

29:22

Seth three times and Cody ought to be able

29:24

to kick his shit out of Drew, doesn't it?

29:28

But nevertheless, that's why they maybe the one

29:30

loss records are not always a good idea

29:32

in wrestling, but in this case it works.

29:34

So anyway,

29:38

Drew's story is it's time for him to take

29:40

it from there. And he just head butts Seth

29:42

and gets in a fight with Cody and

29:45

Cody nails Drew and he takes a bump to

29:47

the floor and Drew's laughing about the whole thing

29:50

that he's created. So they're

29:52

still keeping us interested in what the fuck's going to

29:55

go on with all of these people. And

29:57

nobody had yet. made

30:00

a declarative statement about what, if

30:03

anything, they were going to be doing

30:05

at WrestleMania at that point that we

30:07

were waiting for. Correct? Correct. Really good

30:10

segment, really weird abrupt ending to it.

30:13

Well, they had to get out of there. And they

30:15

certainly did. But

30:18

I mean, the problem is between stuff

30:20

like this, the other segments we've seen

30:22

recently, CM Punk, again, these guys, the

30:24

bloodline stuff, and then

30:26

what we're going to talk about later, the WrestleMania

30:28

kickoff press conference wasn't really much of a press

30:30

conference. This stuff

30:33

does a better job of selling you to want to see

30:35

the matches on the big events than the actual

30:38

matches do. Yes. And

30:42

the matches in between these segments on

30:44

the shows, they're not driving

30:46

away too many people, but they do nothing

30:48

to really get you invested.

30:50

It's these segments on WWE TV

30:52

lately that have been just incredible.

30:55

It's almost like Game of Thrones. There

30:58

are all these different parties. Everyone

31:01

wants the belt. Everyone wants the throne. They'll

31:04

work with each other. They'll stab each other in the back.

31:06

There are all these main event figures right

31:08

now on that stage,

31:11

whether it's Roman, The Rock, Cody, Rollins,

31:13

CM Punk, even though he's injured, he's

31:15

still in that mix, Orton,

31:18

McIntyre, maybe

31:21

right there or a notch below, you have Sami,

31:23

you have Uso, you have AJ, LA

31:25

Knight. You

31:28

know, the dynamic, the interpersonal dynamics they're

31:30

displaying, this is the way to do

31:32

American pro wrestling right now. It's

31:34

these kinds of segments. Yeah.

31:37

Well, and, and as you

31:39

mentioned, the matches in between their kind of, they

31:44

use the guys that aren't ready for these big talking

31:46

segments and kind of auditions to see if people like

31:48

anything about them. And then they can get over and

31:50

move up into the fucking talking segments. So I was

31:52

like, boy, as soon as you get to where you're

31:55

a good enough wrestler, you don't have to wrestle. You

31:58

got it, me. But

32:01

anyway, so we've got all of those people

32:03

as you said going on and then we've

32:05

got one of those matches. As you said,

32:07

the Creed's and Kaiser and

32:09

DaVinci and New Day and DIY

32:12

and the four-way tag team

32:16

scuffle to see who gets a

32:18

tag team title match with the

32:20

champions. We overlook

32:22

this because it deserved it or apparently

32:24

now Tyler

32:26

Bate and Pete Dunn. And

32:30

the top four contenders are the

32:32

Creed's, Kaiser and

32:34

DaVinci, New Day and DIY,

32:37

the do-it-yourselfers. This is the

32:39

state of tag

32:41

team wrestling in 2024. And

32:46

this thing took 20 minutes and Champa and Same Face

32:48

won it. The Creed's looked pretty good in there. I

32:50

thought they were going to win for a little while

32:53

because they were shining really nicely. They

32:55

are wonderful athletes that

32:58

do amazing things

33:00

in between long

33:03

stretches of green as

33:05

a pepper tree. And

33:07

they're either going to hurt somebody or themselves

33:09

before they ever get to be main event

33:12

level talent. See, the other problem is if you

33:14

think back to a year ago, the tag team

33:16

titles were in the main event picture with the

33:19

Usos and everything happening with Sammy and Kevin Owens

33:21

and Cody and the Bloodline. And

33:23

now the tag titles are in that part of the show

33:25

where it kind of doesn't matter what's on the screen. You're

33:29

just waiting for the next talking segment. None of the main

33:31

eventers are in the tag team title picture. Well,

33:34

and you know, Vince didn't

33:37

want to feature tag teams on top, but

33:39

it may be worse now with a

33:42

new mindset because even if Triple H

33:44

is a fan of the

33:47

Hart Foundation or whoever from days gone by

33:49

as a student of the game,

33:51

how many tag team matches

33:54

they have in the UFC? Right? So

33:57

I'm wondering if they're like, what the fuck do we...

34:01

But I mean, they've

34:03

got so many top singles that

34:05

you just enumerated across both these

34:07

programs that at

34:09

some point they could have four of those

34:11

guys break off into two tag teams and

34:13

be halfway legitimate and draw some money. Because

34:15

like even Damian Priest, Damian Priest has the

34:17

briefcase but he doesn't feel like he's at

34:19

the level he was a few months ago.

34:21

They have him doing the comedy stuff with

34:23

R-Truth and working the tag

34:26

title picture with the other guys against these kind

34:28

of people. Yeah. And

34:30

you can call out Drew McIntyre but Drew McIntyre is dealing

34:33

with the main eventers. Yeah,

34:35

it almost feels like the Judgment Day have

34:37

become, you know, the

34:40

middle of the show fodder for the comedy

34:42

spots rather than anybody in

34:44

it except for Rhea,

34:46

you know, being

34:48

a legitimate main event level talent. And

34:51

Priest was about at that point and

34:54

everybody just all of a sudden, poof! He

34:56

turned around and whoosh, they were gone!

35:00

Anyway, moving

35:03

along on Raw Rolls On. Yeah.

35:08

Does it roll on? Well, we rolled on with

35:12

Becky and Shayna. And

35:15

I'm sorry but with all the news

35:17

this week, I was short on time, I

35:19

was reading up on my lawsuit terminology

35:22

but Becky won and the finish went

35:24

three minutes across the nine o'clock hour.

35:27

So they apparently they've got confidence in

35:29

Becky's drawing

35:31

power or ratings

35:33

draw. Did

35:36

I miss anything? No. Okay.

35:41

So again, in

35:43

the back, Adam Pierce is chewing

35:45

out Drew McIntyre for now you've

35:47

hurt punk and Seth Rollins and

35:51

you've done all I'm finding you to maintain

35:53

order. And this,

35:55

you know, so there's tension with the

35:58

top people there. And

36:00

then we get Ria. And

36:02

I thought, okay, I'll watch this. Ria doing

36:04

a promo in the ring. She's pissed. And

36:08

she's good pissed too. She's good at everything she

36:10

does, but this was a, I want the

36:13

refrigerator out here, I'm going to rip her head

36:15

off. And,

36:18

but instead Pierce comes out and says, we're

36:20

not doing this right now. I'm

36:23

going to give you refrigerator jacks

36:25

for the title at the elimination

36:27

chamber. And I think,

36:29

okay, at least we don't have to end and suddenly. Bum,

36:33

bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,

36:35

bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, her music

36:37

plays. What music was that? That

36:40

was the music. Yeah. When you, when you

36:42

see the big bulbous fucking whale or shark

36:44

or manatee or whatever.

36:50

Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,

36:52

bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And

36:56

here she comes

36:59

and just as soon as jacks gets to the ring,

37:01

Rhea nails her. Jack flies

37:03

back into Adam Pierce

37:05

bumps him off the apron and he took a

37:07

nice little bump and they

37:09

get in a fight. Here comes security. And of course the

37:11

security holds Rhea. So Nia Jax

37:13

can run across and boom and level her and bonds

37:16

ire. And

37:19

again, they, they, they,

37:21

they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,

37:23

they've come to the formula with the refrigerator where

37:25

they don't let her speak or do anything for

37:28

more than a couple of minutes. She comes out,

37:30

lays waste people and leaves. So at least it

37:32

doesn't get old. But

37:35

if she had the personality of

37:38

awesome Kong instead of sable, this

37:40

would work. But

37:43

she doesn't. She's just a

37:46

bulbous black

37:49

hole of charisma that

37:52

has a droning voice and no

37:56

over the top monster heel

37:58

personality. And then she. just

38:00

flattens people. See

38:03

what I'm saying? Just

38:05

like she flattens catering. No,

38:08

I mean, pass down until Rhea Ripley has

38:10

a broken rib. No

38:13

matter how safe she is or

38:15

isn't, these bonsai drops cannot go

38:17

easy on a person. I

38:20

don't know. We'll see. Well,

38:23

and I'm more worried about the upper

38:25

frontal protuberances than the ribs because that

38:27

can't be healthy. They're going to get

38:29

her out of the way before WrestleMania,

38:31

right? WrestleMania will be Rhea against either

38:33

Becky or... Yeah, I think

38:35

it's Becky. Yeah. So

38:37

the refrigerator is the elimination

38:40

chamber. But in Rhea's home country,

38:42

so she'll obviously be the favorite.

38:45

But just I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

38:49

Before we skip over it, did

38:51

you watch Ivar and Valerie Halla

38:53

against Tazawa and Model Girl in

38:55

the mixtape? I did not until

38:57

I saw people on Twitter sending

38:59

me comments saying, you have to

39:01

see this match. If

39:03

it had taken place a few years ago, it would be a

39:05

candidate for the worst match ever. But now it's just, you

39:08

got to see how bad it is. Specifically, Model

39:10

Girl. Well,

39:12

and the first thing, I don't know

39:14

what the fascination is with Tazawa. He's

39:16

smaller than both the girls. But

39:19

I started to fast forward and I

39:22

couldn't because it was immediate. She

39:25

fucked up everything that she

39:28

attempted and she's

39:32

not ready for developmental. I wouldn't have

39:34

put her on OVW television. It's a

39:36

disservice to her because people are laughing

39:38

at her now. But

39:40

she botched the spot. Shit

39:43

looks fake. The timing sucks. The

39:45

expression on her face is one of... She's

39:49

concentrating on something that is absolutely

39:51

confused and bum-fuzzled her. And

39:54

you can tell. She just

39:56

not getting it. I don't know. Did

39:59

she want... to be a wrestler or was she

40:01

one of these people that they

40:04

got because she was a model and tried to teach her

40:07

how to wrestle? What's

40:10

happened here? I don't know her background. I'll

40:12

see what we can find out very quickly

40:14

but she did the mood of ham spring.

40:17

Ham spring? Did you say ham

40:19

spring? Excuse me, I

40:21

haven't already about it. She did

40:23

the mood. I know I saw

40:26

it. She

40:28

did the mood of ham spring elbow but

40:30

it was no elbow. It was just like she did

40:32

the flips and then she stopped a little bit before

40:34

the rope and just kind of ran back a little

40:36

bit. What she looked at,

40:39

she did a beautiful handspring and then she

40:41

stopped and she wasn't near the girl and

40:43

she turned around and looked over her shoulder

40:45

and didn't kind of stutter step backwards. I

40:48

don't know. I

40:51

guess she was a cheerleader or a gymnast

40:53

or she's a very athletic young lady. I

40:55

guess they hired her in

40:58

the group because she was with

41:01

poor old L.A. Knight when he was sentenced

41:03

to be Max Dupree. She was Maxine so

41:05

she was supposed to be a model. She

41:07

looks like a model. She

41:10

don't look like a wrestler. In August of

41:12

2021, she participated in

41:14

a WWE tryout in Las Vegas,

41:17

Nevada and became one of 14 attendees

41:19

to earn a contract with the company. Was

41:22

Kevin Dunn or John

41:24

Laurinitis at that tryout?

41:27

August 2021. Did Laurinitis

41:29

lose his job in 2022? I

41:33

believe so. Yeah. I

41:37

told you he sent

41:39

a couple of the lingerie models

41:42

to OVW back in the mid

41:44

2000s that literally got

41:46

faint and had to sit down from running

41:48

the ropes a couple of times. They

41:51

had never seen wrestling. He

41:54

found them in lingerie catalogs and

41:56

called their fucking agent to

41:58

get them a tryout. That's where

42:01

his head was at. Maxine Dupree used to

42:03

be a cheerleader for the Los Angeles Rams

42:05

and a dancer for the Phoenix Suns. Well

42:07

there you go! Did the Rams ever

42:09

call her in on fourth down plays?

42:14

Goal to go! We gotta get Maxine

42:16

in here, she'll save us! The

42:18

ratings would go up. What

42:20

the hell are the Rams doing? I can't believe

42:23

this! Call your friends! Well

42:25

if TKO ever buys the Los

42:27

Angeles Rams then we know already

42:30

we gotta cross over Superstar. What

42:33

was her- oh this is interesting, I didn't know this. What

42:36

was her ring name before

42:38

they gave her Maxine Dupree? I

42:42

don't know, Tits McGee. Sofia Cromwell.

42:48

Sofia Cromwell? That's a good name. Sounds

42:51

like a fucking Italian movie star married

42:53

a fucking contractor from

42:55

Massachusetts. It sounds like she should have

42:57

been working for NXT UK with that

42:59

name. Sofia! Sofia!

43:03

Cromwell! Alright. Well

43:07

and her little fucking manager

43:09

Oliver. See

43:12

what I did there, I know my history. Didn't

43:15

he cut somebody's head off? There was some

43:17

beheading involved in the Cromwell. They

43:20

signed her in August 2021. Her debut was March 22nd, 2022. Well

43:30

I'll tell you what, it's

43:32

now almost March 2024 and

43:35

I don't think that

43:37

there was ever any student

43:40

that we had in OVW

43:42

that was performing like this

43:44

after two years or

43:46

two and a half years of training. Frame

43:49

wise, do you worry about someone whether they're talented or not

43:51

if they have that kind of frame? She doesn't have a

43:53

lot of meat on her bones, she's tall and slender when

43:55

it comes to taking bumps and stuff? Well,

43:59

I mean- Everybody's different. You

44:01

wouldn't think that a lot of the men

44:03

in the business in history should have taken

44:05

the bumps that they took or been able

44:07

to do some of the things that they

44:09

did. But

44:11

at the same time, she just doesn't

44:15

have particularly the frame to

44:17

be not

44:19

only believable, but to

44:22

be a wrestler because there's

44:24

so little weight distributed over

44:26

so long of an

44:28

area. She can't

44:31

move the ropes when she hits them. When she

44:33

takes a bump on the mat, it goes poof.

44:38

There's no force behind anything. She

44:40

can do some nice

44:42

cartwheels and I encourage her to keep doing

44:44

things like that in another line of

44:46

work. Anyway,

44:48

moving along from Model Girl, we

44:50

got other things to talk about.

44:52

The Heart to Heart talks with

44:54

the Judgment Day members where

44:57

they're just having the casual

44:59

conversation about their

45:02

plans and who they are

45:04

supposed to be taken care of and

45:06

everything. Is this something that's getting them

45:09

less over as

45:11

individuals than they were before? Even Dominic

45:13

now, they still like to boo him,

45:16

but he's just standing around. The

45:19

Judgment Day went from being the big thing on

45:21

Raw, involved in all the main stuff, kind of

45:23

like the bloodline of Raw, to being

45:26

the upper

45:28

mid-card, sometimes comedy afterthought on

45:30

Raw with everything else going on.

45:33

They may get multiple segments, but it's going to

45:36

be a comedy segment, a bad

45:38

backstage drama segment and

45:40

nothing that puts anyone in that group over

45:42

as being on the level of the serious main eventers.

45:46

That's what this was here because Truth came

45:48

in and they had to do the stagey

45:52

repartee and then they

45:54

let him hang out in their clubhouse,

45:57

wherever that is, then he finds the

45:59

t-shirts and gets an idea. And

46:03

then we go to JD Funco versus

46:05

the Miz. And if

46:08

I'll, I'll skip ahead and be the spoiler.

46:12

JD is about put Miz away, but

46:14

Truth comes out and starts throwing out

46:16

all the t-shirts that he found for

46:18

free to the people. And

46:21

then they have more match. And finally,

46:24

our truth is there and hands JD

46:27

about 10 grand. Now, how, where'd he

46:29

get this money when he

46:31

was just throwing them out to

46:34

people at random when he came out? But

46:37

now he's got this giant stack of a

46:39

hundred dollar bills that he's picked up wherever

46:41

the fuck and as he hands JD the

46:43

10 grand or whatever it is, Miz hits

46:46

his finish from behind one, two, three.

46:49

Money, money goes flying in the air. Money

46:52

goes flying in the air. And

46:55

again, I remain pissed off that not

46:57

a motherfucker went for a grab for

46:59

one of those bills and it looks like $10,000,

47:01

but for me for $198 and $1 bills had to get

47:06

sucker punched in Memphis that night. And

47:11

so truth

47:13

it's he, yes, I understand what you

47:15

say. He's good at what he does.

47:19

If you're going to do complete Gilligan's

47:22

Island type comedy where nothing

47:25

can be taken seriously, he's

47:27

doing it well. But

47:30

it just makes everybody involved look like complete

47:32

idiots, doesn't it? In

47:35

the judgment day. Again,

47:38

they've become kind of an afterthought. Rhea hasn't,

47:40

but her segments now are just

47:42

really about Rhea dealing with Nia Jax or

47:44

Becky or whoever. She

47:47

shows up every now and then in the back for these

47:49

judgment day things. And then she's busy doing other things and

47:52

she was the biggest star in that group. Yeah.

47:55

I mean, maybe what would help them would

47:58

be a good night's sleep. You

48:00

know, I never thought of it that way, but

48:03

maybe if they, if they laid their

48:05

head down and got a good night's

48:07

sleep, they could dream about something to

48:09

make people take them a little more seriously

48:11

and start doing that. Is

48:14

that, you know, as a matter of fact, if

48:16

you go right now, folks to

48:18

helixsleep.com, that's

48:20

where you got to go. helixsleep.com,

48:24

you're going to find out that not

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only do they have mattresses for people

48:28

who like sleep on their side or on

48:30

their back or on their stomach or big

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and tall people or portly and stout and

48:34

morbidly obese people or children

48:37

or amputees, they've

48:39

got mattresses for everybody. Mattresses for

48:41

everybody. We don't need to distinguish

48:43

who everybody is. We

48:46

got to name all these subgroups because people give

48:48

you a shout out to people out there, the

48:50

sick and shut-ins, people that need the mattresses the

48:52

most. They can't get out to

48:54

a normal mattress store and hop up and down

48:56

and test out the mattresses if

48:59

you're sick and shut-in on a mattress at

49:01

home. You need another mattress

49:03

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49:05

if you're like one of the people we were talking

49:07

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49:10

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luxurious. I was thinking high priced. I

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I didn't think about Elite because it has

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negative connotations around the wrestling industry but they

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have the Elite Collection over at Elite and

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if you're a serious sleeper, just put that

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say you want to be able to... What kind of dreams

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do you want to have? You

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take a quiz and they'll ask you things like

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this. How do you sleep? What position you like,

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soft or firm? Are you

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a little skinny, skeletal

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person? How much stuffing do we

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have to put in this thing? That kind of question.

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Are you a skeletal person? Yes.

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Really? Okay. A very bony person

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doesn't need as much stuffing, see?

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But if you're a big fat son

50:29

of a bitch, then they got

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to put more stuffing in or you'll wear down

50:33

into it'll look like fucking, you

50:35

know, Mrs. Bates's mattress at the fucking

50:37

Bates Motel. So they got to put

50:40

extra stuffing in for fat people. Again,

50:42

the point is, no matter who you

50:44

are. A mattress for fat people is

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like a private plane for fat

50:48

people. When they're getting on the airplane, they ask,

50:50

how much do you weigh so we can figure

50:53

out how much fuel to put

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in? You just fill it up. Again,

50:58

they have mattresses for everybody, no matter who you

51:00

are, your age, your weight, anything. Yes.

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Great mattresses. Don't worry about what they're going to

51:04

put in it. They're going to take care of

51:06

you and what you need on your mattress. They

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get a good night's sleep. Isn't that right, Jim?

51:11

You know, there's asbestos in some mattresses.

51:13

There's no, no, there's none of them.

51:15

There is. There truly is. The people

51:17

at Helix told me some of these

51:19

mattress companies, they put asbestos and shit

51:21

in there. There's nothing like that. The

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people at Helix never said that to

51:25

you and there's no, none of that

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in the hearing. No, it's all, it's

51:29

been in the news. It's been in

51:31

the news. You may have seen on

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social media or in the news recently,

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there's been a number of health issues

51:37

and lawsuits related to, oh, it's

51:40

fiberglass. I thought it was asbestos.

51:42

Well, nevertheless, whether,

51:44

do you want to sleep on fiberglass

51:46

or asbestos, either one? No, you

51:49

don't. Well, Helix doesn't

51:51

have that because they manufacture everything

51:53

here in America where we've

51:55

got good old fashioned American made toxic

51:57

waste that gives you all kinds of.

52:00

Once again, let's talk about these fine mattresses and not

52:03

have to worry about any of these other things. These

52:05

mattresses, you can get a good night rest and a

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good night's sleep and just a nap whenever you need

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it. It's there. Yes. Or if

52:11

you need your mattress for something else, if you're

52:13

one of the few of us that have happy

52:16

marriages, then you might need

52:18

your mattress for something else. You know, they

52:20

say many people say

52:22

that they experience more

52:24

pleasant relations on a Helix sleep

52:26

mattress than the other mattresses, because

52:29

there's not that fiberglass. They're not cutting their

52:31

knees and elbows. Again, this is not necessarily

52:33

a statistic we have, so let's not quote

52:35

any statistics. It's anecdotal. It's anecdotal. Okay,

52:38

Colin. Anecdotally,

52:40

why don't we talk about

52:43

where people can get these

52:45

fine mattresses? Anecdotally, you

52:47

can go to – and your pet can sleep

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on the mattresses. You don't get one of the

52:51

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52:53

because the kids and the dogs, they're about the

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same size. No. Dogs

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are nicer, and they don't cause less trouble.

52:59

Again, no, but – But that way, your

53:01

pet would be sleeping on the same thing

53:03

that you're sleeping on, and there would be

53:05

a bond amongst the family. But

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right now, what you can do to do

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54:40

Jim how can the listeners get this great

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right helixsleep they find mattress but we have to

55:11

wake up and finish raw because we have to

55:13

keep moving on there's so much to go over.

55:16

Well in that case here

55:19

it comes oh and by the way

55:21

they did do a brief package on

55:23

punk surgery at the

55:26

hospital afterwards comments on his rehab

55:28

you see him in the you

55:31

know in the apparatus they give you and everything

55:34

and he gave the line his

55:36

comeback will be the greatest of all time

55:39

and he's had like fucking

55:41

three or four comebacks here in the last

55:43

two years he's got a top now so

55:45

he's got some practice at it but

55:49

he has made that that

55:51

bold claim so we

55:53

will see what's going on and

55:56

then we got to the

55:59

big celebration for

56:01

our boy Gunther, 600 days

56:04

as the Intercontinental Champion at the 10

56:06

o'clock hour. He

56:09

gets the big introduction from Kaiser

56:11

who's brilliant at this and here

56:14

comes Gunther and he's running out of

56:16

competition. Nobody can challenge

56:19

him. Who can challenge him? Who? Well,

56:23

and then here comes Uso's music and

56:25

I'm like, oh, God damn it. Because

56:28

I'm thinking if Brock wasn't

56:30

a complete fucking idiot, we

56:33

could have had Brock against Gunther

56:35

and now it looks like we're

56:37

getting Uso against Gunther. And

56:41

we've talked about the

56:43

people love Jey Uso. He does the entrance

56:46

and the rig and roll and the whole

56:48

nine yards and the people are

56:51

happy to see him, but do you look forward to

56:53

any of his matches? I

56:56

don't know. So

57:02

the people are yeeting for Jey

57:05

as he tells Gunther how much he respects

57:07

him and etc. and then Gunther puts Jey

57:09

over as a great tag team guy, greatest

57:12

tag team blah blah blah. That means you only had to put

57:14

in 50% of the work, but

57:17

I did all the work on my own. And

57:22

I'm thinking, the only thing that would

57:24

add to Gunther and his

57:26

Imperium Stooges is if we could get like

57:29

Peter Laurie in his prime to

57:32

come out and be like his Prince Nana and

57:35

just stand there and smirk and rub his hands

57:37

together. But

57:39

anyway, this

57:42

is where Jey put himself over

57:44

and kind of challenged Gunther. And

57:48

Gunther is a great heel promo as

57:51

we've said and he tells Jey that

57:53

he's going to beat his ass and

57:55

then Jey jumps Gunther and the

57:57

heels jump Jey. The

58:00

new days save him and the heels bail out.

58:04

So if we're not getting this at

58:08

WrestleMania, apparently there's more to be

58:10

had between Jay and Gunther. And

58:13

so we got that to just look forward to. I

58:16

love Gunther, but eh. Eh.

58:22

I don't disagree with you. I mean, you want him to

58:24

do something that's like a step up already. I

58:27

had no disrespect to Jay Uso, but he's kind of lost in

58:29

the shuffle right now. They

58:32

took him away from the bloodline. They put him on

58:34

this show. He's an established babyface. He was at

58:37

times the most over babyface on the show. But

58:40

when you look at everything happening, he's lost in the shuffle.

58:44

Well, it's

58:46

kind of like he was

58:50

in a position where because

58:52

of the bloodline thing he was over because of

58:55

the way that they did that when he was

58:57

taken away from the bloodline. Okay.

59:00

What's going to be different necessarily

59:02

that he's doing as a single?

59:05

And honestly, when

59:08

he became a single now he's got to

59:11

when the Uso's were a tag, they had to

59:13

hang with the mid-card guys that they put in

59:15

tag matches. But

59:17

now that he's a single, he's

59:20

got to be viewed in the same lens as

59:23

the Druze and the LA

59:25

Knights and the Cody's and the Sess and

59:27

on and on and on. And

59:30

he kind

59:33

of works the same and he kind of looks the

59:36

same and he yeets, but

59:39

he ain't doing

59:41

individual shit at their level, is he? No.

59:47

Well, then

59:49

occasionally the cake

59:51

doesn't quite rise. But

59:54

speaking of yeast not rising, there's

59:58

a transition there somewhere. Goodman's tag

1:00:00

team title was on the line with

1:00:03

Chance and Carter against Carey and Oscar

1:00:05

and the referee was the only one

1:00:07

in the match over five feet tall.

1:00:11

I don't think they changed the belts, did they?

1:00:15

Uh, no. The Kabuki Warriors are

1:00:17

still the tag team champions. Well,

1:00:19

I would break my heart if they lost

1:00:21

those belts. Sammy Zane

1:00:25

is another guy that may be kind of

1:00:27

in the Jey Uso position because remember a

1:00:29

year ago, he was

1:00:32

challenging for the title and people were saying he

1:00:35

ought to beat Roman Reigns. He ought to be

1:00:37

the one to beat Roman Reigns in Montreal. What

1:00:39

a moment that would be. And

1:00:42

how much business would we sacrifice over the

1:00:45

next fucking four years or whatever? Um,

1:00:48

but they did a sit down interview

1:00:50

with him talking about Drew McIntyre and

1:00:52

over all his last year, and he

1:00:55

wants to prove he's a main eventer because

1:00:57

they're acknowledging that he's

1:00:59

the same position that Jey is in

1:01:01

when it was him and Owens and

1:01:03

the Uso's and the story with the

1:01:05

bloodline and the baby faces and the,

1:01:08

et cetera, you

1:01:11

know, the sum of the holes, greater parts

1:01:13

of whatever. It

1:01:15

covered up everybody's weak

1:01:18

points as far as hanging with

1:01:20

the top main event level singles

1:01:22

talent when the teams were

1:01:24

over. But, uh,

1:01:26

you know, Sam, Sammy was Sammy

1:01:29

Zane can talk and he very, he

1:01:32

sounded genuine here and as we said,

1:01:34

he can work his ass off. He

1:01:36

looks physically and you know, just visually

1:01:38

like blah, but he's got

1:01:40

that every man appeal, but

1:01:43

he's not going to be the face of the company. And

1:01:45

he's not going to be at a singles main event at

1:01:47

WrestleMania. And

1:01:49

so he rode that wave

1:01:52

of popularity based on the great

1:01:54

work that he did and the

1:01:56

promos and the reactions and the

1:01:58

matches and the whole nine yards. but also

1:02:00

the position he was put in with

1:02:03

everybody else he was reacting to. There

1:02:06

was their little mini movie that culminated with

1:02:08

him getting the chance and falling just short.

1:02:13

And then he and

1:02:15

Owens were separated and

1:02:17

he's going back to where normally

1:02:21

and for a long period of time he

1:02:23

can be in the upper middle. And

1:02:28

people like him so you can use him in

1:02:30

the mix with the top singles guys, but he's

1:02:33

not going to be continually

1:02:35

on an ongoing basis challenging

1:02:38

for any of the multiple world titles

1:02:41

as a single. That

1:02:43

doesn't even disrespect him or his ability, does

1:02:45

it not? What I just said. It

1:02:48

does not. See, I

1:02:50

can be fucking nice every

1:02:52

once in a while. But

1:02:55

I'm not going to be about the main event. Brian,

1:02:59

was this the worst bull rope match you've

1:03:01

ever seen? It was

1:03:03

the same bull rope that Dusty Rhodes used when

1:03:05

he invented the bull rope match they said on

1:03:07

commentary. Well, I didn't say it was the worst

1:03:10

bull rope. I said it was the worst bull

1:03:12

rope match because you almost didn't see any of

1:03:14

it to begin with. And then with the limitations

1:03:16

and then the apparently

1:03:19

shaky doesn't get the fucking

1:03:21

concept. Which you know,

1:03:23

he's probably not been in one before

1:03:26

but nevertheless. It

1:03:28

was Cody Rhodes and our

1:03:31

friend Shaky Nakamura in

1:03:34

the heavily promoted bull rope match. They're

1:03:36

using Dusty Rhodes as bull rope from

1:03:38

the 70s. And

1:03:41

I said there was what? There

1:03:43

was four or five. There was under 10 minutes of it

1:03:45

on the air. They

1:03:47

started for once at

1:03:49

least the entrance from the

1:03:52

start of the entrances to the bell was only

1:03:54

four minutes on Raw. I was like, holy shit.

1:03:56

It's a special match. They're going to get into

1:03:58

it. Here we go. And

1:04:00

they start out with a fight and they go a minute

1:04:02

and they went to the break and

1:04:05

I'm like, I swear to God. And

1:04:08

by the time they come back, I'm thinking, okay, well,

1:04:10

we've still got 10 minutes

1:04:12

on the air, whatever it is. And

1:04:16

Cody's in control, goes for the

1:04:18

Cody cutter, shaky jerks him down,

1:04:20

starts getting some heat. And

1:04:23

it sounds better than it looked because it

1:04:25

was lackluster slow paced heat. I

1:04:27

don't think Nakamura

1:04:30

was understanding potentially

1:04:32

how you could use the bull rope. There

1:04:35

was a lot of stomping going on. And

1:04:39

Cody fought back and got a figure

1:04:41

four and Nakamura

1:04:43

broke it and they went to the

1:04:45

break again. After only like four

1:04:48

minutes of this thing. And by the time they come

1:04:50

back, there's five minutes left

1:04:52

on the air and Cody's made a comeback. And

1:04:56

he hit a version of

1:04:58

a Cody cutter because Nakamura

1:05:03

fell backwards somehow on

1:05:06

the Cody cutter. I don't know. And

1:05:09

then Nakamura jumps up and whiffs

1:05:11

a paylay kick right

1:05:14

past Cody's head, which Cody sold like

1:05:16

death. And

1:05:20

Nakamura tried to do his regular shit while

1:05:22

he would tie to a bull rope, as

1:05:25

New Jack would say, chained in the bowels of

1:05:28

a slave ship. He's

1:05:30

tried to do the baseball slide under in

1:05:32

the German suplex thing that he'd, well, he's

1:05:34

tied to the fucking bull rope. And

1:05:38

finally, for

1:05:41

the first time ever in the

1:05:43

match, as far as I can tell, Cody

1:05:45

went to use the cowbell. Nobody

1:05:48

had touched the cowbell. Nobody hit anybody

1:05:50

with the cowbell. They

1:05:52

couldn't get juice, but

1:05:55

the cowbell is part of the thing. So

1:05:58

he goes use the cowbell and Nakamura. Nakamura

1:06:00

blows the red mist in his face. And,

1:06:03

but while Cody is blind, he grabs Nakamura

1:06:06

and hits the crossroads and gets a

1:06:08

two count. And

1:06:11

then Nakamura grabs

1:06:13

the bell and uses sloppy kind of half-ass bell

1:06:15

shots instead

1:06:18

of, you know, one good

1:06:20

one. And then Cody

1:06:24

crushed Nakamura with the rope as the

1:06:26

spot goes, where he jerks

1:06:28

it and the things between the guy's

1:06:30

legs, but it took two of them for

1:06:32

Nakamura to figure out and do the fucking

1:06:34

flip, frontwards dipshit. And

1:06:38

then Cody hit the crossroads one, two, three.

1:06:41

So there was under 10 minutes of the match

1:06:43

on the air. There was no blood. They barely

1:06:46

used the bell. Nakamura continues

1:06:48

his streak of being rotten.

1:06:53

And poor Cody. Yes, he won a bull rope match,

1:06:55

but it was, you didn't do anything to help the

1:06:57

bull rope match get over. Did it? No.

1:07:01

I mean, the bull rope match more than

1:07:03

likely isn't going to get over. It's a thing that

1:07:05

really, I don't know, they still

1:07:07

use it, but I never thought of it. They still

1:07:09

have bulls. They still do. But you know, it's like

1:07:11

one of those things that I think made a lot

1:07:13

more sense years ago than now, but as a gimmick

1:07:16

match for a raw main event with someone who's programmed

1:07:18

Cody's kind of finished with. Eh.

1:07:21

And at least with the mist, it looked like he had blood because

1:07:23

it was red. So you tuned in late.

1:07:26

It's like, man, Cody's been bleeding all over

1:07:28

the place. No, it's Nakamura spit. But

1:07:31

I guess that's the end of Cody and Nakamura. Now he could,

1:07:33

uh, there's another guy kind of

1:07:35

lost in the upper mid card. We'll see what they do.

1:07:38

But here's the, and again, you, you say

1:07:41

the bull rope is a match. It's not

1:07:43

going to get over. And somebody's going, oh,

1:07:45

court gets so out of touch. No, any

1:07:47

match from any period can

1:07:50

get over. Yes. If

1:07:52

it's given context and fits

1:07:56

either the situation, the

1:07:58

individuals involved in it. or both.

1:08:00

Which happens for an elimination chamber or

1:08:03

war games does not happen for a

1:08:05

bull rope match or a stipulation match

1:08:07

that just appears on Raw or even

1:08:10

AEW TV. Of course AEW TV. And

1:08:12

I'll give you an example of how here

1:08:16

would be the perfect way if it

1:08:18

ever happened to

1:08:20

get the bull rope match over again if there was

1:08:23

ever because it started

1:08:25

obviously Dusty's fascination with Cowboys but

1:08:29

he wasn't the first you know fucking

1:08:33

person to come up with the idea of left

1:08:35

wrist to left wrist with anything. Whether

1:08:38

it be strap or chain or whatever, Russians

1:08:42

were known for

1:08:44

chains for whatever reason and

1:08:46

the Indian strap match because you saw it

1:08:48

on television. But if they

1:08:50

would ever they have crossover athletes all the

1:08:53

time. If you ever found an athlete or

1:08:55

even a like a

1:08:57

Logan Paul a celebrity or

1:09:00

crossover person that

1:09:02

had done professional rodeo because the

1:09:04

highlights you could get those fucking

1:09:07

bulls are fucking mean and the

1:09:10

way they ride the goddamn bucking Broncos

1:09:12

and all the shit they fuck themselves

1:09:15

up. If you even

1:09:17

had a guy that had trained to wrestle that

1:09:19

had done pro rodeo riding at a

1:09:22

low level and got some highlights and

1:09:24

he got halfway over his specialty

1:09:27

could be the bull rope match and

1:09:30

he could get it over. But

1:09:33

we've lost complete sight

1:09:36

on every stipulation

1:09:38

and gimmick of why that it originally

1:09:40

got over it. It wasn't just because

1:09:42

of the rules or the stipulations but

1:09:44

in a lot of cases it was

1:09:47

the person doing it because of their

1:09:49

backstory and their gimmick and their background

1:09:52

and the stories that have been told

1:09:54

about them. Whether they were a cowboy

1:09:56

or an Indian or a Russian or

1:09:58

a fucking Ugandan giant or whatever the

1:10:00

fuck. And,

1:10:02

and that led

1:10:05

to the match rules or stipulations.

1:10:09

And now they just say, well, we'll put Brian

1:10:12

last and Jim Cornette in a goddamn Russian

1:10:15

death match. Neither one of them's Russian,

1:10:18

but it's a cool fucking match and

1:10:21

it doesn't work. Am

1:10:25

I doing an editorial here or are

1:10:27

you still there? That was WWE Monday

1:10:30

Night Raw. Again, there's

1:10:32

still so much to cover, but why don't we

1:10:34

knock out the WWE programming that we're going to

1:10:36

talk about today? Because Raw was

1:10:38

raw. Good segment or two, a

1:10:41

lot of other stuff you sit through, hoping

1:10:43

there'll be more. In this

1:10:45

case, there wasn't this week. There wasn't

1:10:48

more. But WWE did a WrestleMania 40

1:10:51

kickoff show. They

1:10:53

said press conference. There was no press

1:10:55

asking questions in Las Vegas.

1:10:58

The week of the Superbowl, a few

1:11:00

thousand people showed up for free to see

1:11:03

this. And I

1:11:05

have to say it was better than

1:11:07

any episode of Monday Night Raw. WWE

1:11:10

should consider doing this as a weekly show, a live

1:11:13

press conference like this. Well,

1:11:15

you know what? Cause it was only like an hour

1:11:17

and 15 minutes long and there

1:11:20

were no commercials. And so we got

1:11:22

the interviews from the main event talent.

1:11:24

We didn't have to sit through the

1:11:26

bad matches and shit went

1:11:28

on. This was like the, remember

1:11:31

we've talked about it, the Lawler Dundee,

1:11:33

a special one hour

1:11:35

and in the Memphis case, one and a

1:11:37

half hour television program they did before that,

1:11:40

that loser leave town match they did in June of 83

1:11:44

in that it was just the two

1:11:46

participants sitting and promo

1:11:48

in it, talking to each other

1:11:51

about it and showing, you know,

1:11:53

clips from their various

1:11:55

rivalries in the past as

1:11:57

promotional material. the

1:12:01

press conference like you said, there were

1:12:03

press there, they just didn't ask any

1:12:05

questions. Otherwise it was

1:12:07

people that, as you said, came for

1:12:09

free to the big arena there on

1:12:11

the theory that I

1:12:14

guess it would be easier to

1:12:16

draw a live crowd even to see The

1:12:19

Rock and all the top wrestling

1:12:21

stars and everything for free if it wasn't

1:12:23

Las Vegas. They're used to seeing Wayne Newton

1:12:25

walk down the fucking street, right? So

1:12:28

they're a little harder audience. Well

1:12:31

again, it's something that I mean I don't know how much in Tuscaloosa,

1:12:33

Alabama they would have drawn a huge crowd. Again, I don't

1:12:36

know how many people would walk into a room to see

1:12:38

The Rock if he's just gonna be doing his thing if

1:12:40

you're not a fan of wrestling. That's a big question. But

1:12:42

the other thing is, how much

1:12:44

advance notice was there? Because I

1:12:46

didn't hear too much about this until they just announced it

1:12:48

on TV, it's coming up this week. We'll

1:12:51

find out what's happening. Yeah, now

1:12:53

I'm fucking with them. There was not a lot

1:12:56

of advance notice to this so

1:12:58

people just say, yeah, they said, well we'll go down

1:13:00

and see what's going on. Good

1:13:02

idea if the Super Bowl is happening someplace and you

1:13:04

know that for that week you're gonna have fans from all

1:13:06

over the world coming into town. Good idea for WWE

1:13:08

to go to town and do something? I don't

1:13:15

know that they couldn't have done this in any

1:13:17

other major city in the country. They

1:13:19

could have done, they probably could have done more people

1:13:21

in New York. I

1:13:23

don't know if it had it, maybe that was

1:13:25

the concept they had that, oh

1:13:27

the Super Bowl. But it didn't look like all

1:13:30

the media is there. If

1:13:32

you've gone to, well none

1:13:35

of the media got to ask any questions. Did any

1:13:37

media cover this that

1:13:42

wouldn't normally cover something like this

1:13:44

that the WWE did? Did

1:13:46

this get extraordinary or extraneous

1:13:49

or unusual amounts of regular

1:13:52

mainstream media coverage? This got the

1:13:54

usual coverage from Russell hugs and

1:13:56

Russell smile. And so kisses. Rappel

1:13:59

kiss. Remember

1:14:01

the thing they did in Boston

1:14:04

with Tyson and DX and everything

1:14:06

before WrestleMania, whatever number

1:14:08

that was, in 1998? They

1:14:11

had a couple thousand people show up there.

1:14:13

It was a goddamn, it was not

1:14:16

as well controlled as this. It was a

1:14:18

fucking mob scene. But

1:14:21

I think they could have done in any major

1:14:24

city, Chicago, New York, whatever

1:14:27

they could have done what they did here

1:14:29

on any weekend, just on the power

1:14:32

of their television, their names, they had a

1:14:34

couple thousand people there. I think they could

1:14:36

do that. I don't

1:14:38

know the Super Bowl contributed is what I'm saying to answer

1:14:40

your question. Hey, let me say a compliment for someone

1:14:42

I always kill for his awful work. This

1:14:45

is the setting where Michael Cole actually works really

1:14:47

well. Yes.

1:14:51

He's not, not

1:14:53

only is he not being

1:14:55

overproduced in his ear by either

1:14:58

Kevin Dunn or the evil madman,

1:15:01

but also this is a kind

1:15:03

of a more sports-oriented laid back

1:15:05

sporting hosting talk before the event

1:15:07

show type of thing. He's

1:15:10

good with that. He

1:15:12

wasn't trained to do these things

1:15:14

a specifically opposite way.

1:15:18

And Pat McAfee is good with this and

1:15:21

Biggie, it looks like they might be

1:15:23

trying out. You

1:15:25

know, he's still not come back from

1:15:27

the neck injury. He's not said whether he's made his

1:15:30

decision he's going to or not. So

1:15:32

they may be trying him out as a

1:15:36

commentator, interviewer, personality to do

1:15:38

these type of shows. They

1:15:40

brought punk in, which

1:15:42

led to a couple

1:15:45

of inside jokes probably for, you know,

1:15:48

a small portion of the audience, including

1:15:50

us. But

1:15:52

that's obviously, we talked about it. You

1:15:56

know, punk's already done commentary for one

1:15:58

of these smaller MMA. groups and

1:16:00

he's got background in UFC and he's

1:16:03

glib as fuck and

1:16:06

we talked, we answered the question or you asked me

1:16:08

the question, should punk do

1:16:10

commentary and he's back? And I don't know

1:16:12

if he should jump into

1:16:14

it right away and be on TV every fucking

1:16:16

week when he's just got hurt and it

1:16:19

might get old for he's ready to come

1:16:21

back but on stuff like this and then

1:16:24

when he is ready, that's

1:16:26

a perfect way to get

1:16:29

him back involved in the

1:16:31

mix somehow because he can and eventually

1:16:33

when father time works on him, he

1:16:36

can be the crossover guy. They can do

1:16:39

expert commentary on a UFC or a WWE

1:16:41

event. So

1:16:44

anyway, the

1:16:47

meat of the matter was the main

1:16:50

event thing but to get there, they

1:16:52

had Triple H

1:16:55

do the you know,

1:16:57

rah-rah speech and Heyman did a great

1:16:59

promo in the back and it

1:17:01

was kind of a free tape thing but

1:17:04

basically Triple H, they introduced him and

1:17:07

he gave the history of WrestleMania

1:17:09

from number one all

1:17:11

the way through all these names blah

1:17:13

blah, but gave a rah-rah speech and

1:17:15

there's one big name he didn't mention.

1:17:17

There's one that has always been

1:17:20

considered a name to be mentioned at

1:17:23

WrestleMania that no one mentioned at all

1:17:25

at this event. No and that's

1:17:28

the question I was about to ask you, was

1:17:31

Triple H really heavy at the end

1:17:33

on it's

1:17:35

a new company, it's a

1:17:38

new era, it's an all

1:17:40

new WWE with new people

1:17:43

involved. Nobody here has fucking

1:17:47

done evil things like you've heard. It almost

1:17:49

sounded like that, didn't it? He should just

1:17:51

come out and say, only one woman in

1:17:53

this company has ever seen my dick. Just

1:17:56

one and that's my wife. That

1:17:58

would go a long way too. Well,

1:18:01

now hold on because

1:18:03

we have to think, well, now. No,

1:18:08

I'm not alluding to anything and either are

1:18:10

you, but. No, I'm

1:18:13

just, I'm just thinking of nothing else.

1:18:15

Then remember all the times DX used

1:18:17

to pull her pants down and get

1:18:19

censored. How many of that's true? How

1:18:21

many female production people, uh,

1:18:24

the Jennifer good, I guess is long gone. She

1:18:26

used to work in the office or in the

1:18:28

production company. He's in a rough position because he's

1:18:30

still out there in the face of the company

1:18:32

and the company still hasn't really said anything

1:18:34

about Vince. The one thing about all this rock stuff was

1:18:36

it took a lot of the attention away from Vince because

1:18:39

that was the overwhelming thing on top

1:18:41

of everything. And that was the Royal Rumble weekend.

1:18:44

You know, it's a new company. Maybe get rid

1:18:46

of the tagline together forever. That may not work

1:18:50

anymore. That was a Vince thing. I

1:18:52

believe go, let's get rid of together

1:18:54

forever forever together. We want

1:18:57

to forever be separated. Maybe

1:18:59

Vince. Yeah. We, we'd

1:19:01

like to be separated right when you cross

1:19:03

the County land or Rikers Island. We'd like

1:19:05

to be, you know, the other thing is

1:19:07

in a lot of respects and

1:19:09

there's still have to, you know, still

1:19:12

a reckoning to come for everything that happened in the

1:19:14

past, it does feel like a new company. The

1:19:16

way they're dealing with things, the small

1:19:19

changes to production, the way

1:19:21

stars are being presented, the kind of deals that

1:19:23

some guys are getting structured. Yeah.

1:19:26

The ownership, obviously the flywheel,

1:19:28

the people who are in charge.

1:19:31

It is a new company and you know,

1:19:33

Vince still has shares. So

1:19:36

he's not completely gone away, but the

1:19:39

belief is that he doesn't have enough shares to be a

1:19:41

problem or to hold on. I

1:19:44

have shares in some

1:19:47

companies, but I don't have enough shares to wear,

1:19:49

whether I'm here or not, they would ever say,

1:19:51

wait, he's gone away. He owns 12%

1:19:53

of the thing. But

1:19:56

there are entities that are

1:19:59

put in place. own more

1:20:01

of that. He can't force his way back on

1:20:03

the board. He can't – I

1:20:06

mean, he can call anybody on a phone, I guess,

1:20:08

and say anything he wants to to him, but they

1:20:10

don't have to listen to him anymore, right? I

1:20:13

guess. Wouldn't that be something? If Vince

1:20:15

is calling again, tell him I'm busy. Yeah.

1:20:20

Tell him I'm treating women respectfully over

1:20:22

here. That's very

1:20:24

interesting. But again, Triple

1:20:26

H, he's still there. He

1:20:29

is, in a lot of ways, the face of the company,

1:20:31

the Dana White of WWE. And

1:20:35

obviously, it's going to play into all this stuff with The

1:20:37

Rock. That seems rather apparent now. But

1:20:39

they do need to kind of, in multiple ways,

1:20:41

show that it's a new company, be a

1:20:44

new company. And a

1:20:46

lot of the things that they're doing are looking in that

1:20:48

direction, but they still have to answer

1:20:50

for a lot of things. The

1:20:53

new company has to answer for a lot of things. Yeah,

1:20:56

such as, how

1:20:58

did you tolerate his presence over the

1:21:00

last year when you

1:21:03

didn't necessarily have to, depending on what you

1:21:05

knew? But now we're finding out that not

1:21:08

only maybe TKO or

1:21:10

Endeavor or whoever is supposed to know

1:21:12

these things didn't know these things, apparently,

1:21:14

and we'll get to

1:21:16

that later on, in our

1:21:18

apparently now weekly Vince segment, Vince

1:21:22

had these agreements drawn up. The

1:21:25

NDA with Janelle Grant,

1:21:27

and I know I'm getting off on a

1:21:29

side topic here. We'll talk about it again, remind me

1:21:32

to bring it up. But there were three copies of

1:21:34

it. One for her,

1:21:36

one for him, and one for the

1:21:38

WWE. He never

1:21:40

signed the copy that she got. She

1:21:44

signed all of them. Then

1:21:46

he privately signed

1:21:48

the one that covered him and signed

1:21:51

the one that covered the

1:21:53

WWE and put those

1:21:55

away without telling the WWE that they

1:21:57

existed. Have you read about this?

1:22:00

I saw something about that,

1:22:02

yeah. So what the fuck

1:22:04

kind of Kabuki-ish bullshit even?

1:22:07

And then he didn't

1:22:09

sign her copy of the NDA, but

1:22:11

he sent the first million dollar payment.

1:22:15

And then apparently had done

1:22:17

this other

1:22:19

under the table paperwork to say if

1:22:21

anything ever came of it, he could

1:22:24

produce an NDA that she

1:22:26

couldn't talk about the WWE and an NDA that

1:22:28

she couldn't talk about him. But

1:22:30

the WWE didn't even know that they existed.

1:22:34

And, alright, anyway.

1:22:37

Can you imagine the first time after any of

1:22:40

these people heard these stories about Vince, like, oh my God,

1:22:42

I'll never see him the same way again. Anyone who didn't

1:22:44

know. And then the next time he walks in

1:22:46

the room, he's got that new look. Like,

1:22:48

oh my God, he's really doubling down and

1:22:50

leaning into this, isn't he? Well,

1:22:53

speaking of doubling down and leaning in,

1:22:55

let's get finished with Triple H because

1:22:57

he did the all new thing, uh,

1:22:59

numerously. And then did

1:23:02

you notice the

1:23:05

dramatic milk that

1:23:08

he did for his, are

1:23:11

you ready? Are you ready? And

1:23:14

the dramatic, it just looked like he

1:23:16

had, it looked like he was

1:23:18

Mitch McConnell from a few months ago. He just froze

1:23:21

up at the press conference. It was just standing there.

1:23:23

He was dramatic milking, but the people that came didn't

1:23:25

know what he was milking. And

1:23:27

in the, are you ready? Was it

1:23:29

get tepid response

1:23:32

and you ain't

1:23:34

seen nothing yet got. So,

1:23:38

whenever someone says you ain't seen nothing yet, it's like the

1:23:40

last time you see him on TV or they're gone like

1:23:42

two weeks later. Roddy, I did that

1:23:44

once at the Hall of Fame. You ain't

1:23:47

seen nothing yet. Then like we never saw

1:23:49

him again. And besides the reason why that

1:23:51

line is famous was because it came right

1:23:53

after people had seen the first sound

1:23:56

emotion fucking picture scene.

1:24:00

And they really hadn't seen anything

1:24:03

before that really. But

1:24:05

now we've all seen a lot

1:24:07

of something. So you

1:24:10

can't really just say that, just bandy that

1:24:12

phrase. You ain't seen nothing yet. Yeah, we've

1:24:14

seen way too much shit by now. Sound,

1:24:17

that was a big fucking deal. Now we've

1:24:19

been bombarded. Ain't read nothing yet. Wait,

1:24:21

wait, wait, we're going to read next. Yes.

1:24:25

So I know they brought

1:24:27

Bianca out and they

1:24:29

did some other stuff, but I had to skip to

1:24:31

the main event business. Are you mad

1:24:34

at me because I missed out on Rhea

1:24:36

and Becky arguing with each other? No, it was

1:24:38

all right. But I think everyone was

1:24:40

kind of tuning in for the same thing and this was

1:24:43

kind of the stuff leading up to it. But it was

1:24:45

one hour, so it kind of all worked and it wasn't

1:24:47

anything yet. I watched it. I didn't leave.

1:24:49

Yeah. If it was a two-hour thing, I may

1:24:52

not have, but it was good. I

1:24:54

like them doing this. It's so much better

1:24:57

than just doing these weird segments on Raw.

1:25:00

Them face to face on a stage works better

1:25:02

sometimes than doing prearranged stuff in a

1:25:04

ring. So I thought this was good. Well,

1:25:07

then finally, we got to what

1:25:10

we had all been waiting for, the main

1:25:13

event of the main event, the main event

1:25:15

of the press conference to determine the main

1:25:17

event, even though there was

1:25:19

no press conferring. Seth

1:25:22

comes out and he calls out

1:25:24

Cody to make

1:25:26

his decision that he's been demanding

1:25:28

and he gets Roman instead. And

1:25:32

there's Seth and Roman go face to

1:25:34

face. And I was thinking to this

1:25:36

point, Plummer Moxley must be ready to

1:25:38

jump off the bridge between Kentucky and

1:25:40

Ohio. No way. I'm going

1:25:42

face to face with Hachicero. He

1:25:45

was in the group with these

1:25:48

two guys. And now these two

1:25:50

guys are the

1:25:52

two standard bearers of the biggest

1:25:55

company in the world. And the

1:25:57

Plummer is having bad matches with

1:25:59

fucking. outlaw talent on the B

1:26:02

show. But I get to sit next

1:26:04

to my wife on the plane. In fact, she doesn't

1:26:06

take her eyes off me the whole time. Dope.

1:26:11

I mean, that's dope that he gets to do that.

1:26:13

I'm not talking about that's what she might be looking

1:26:15

for. I don't want anyone to misconstrue that. No

1:26:19

one was construing that. Well,

1:26:23

anyway, so Roman. Yeah,

1:26:34

mother. All right. Anyway,

1:26:39

so then Roman

1:26:42

says, Hey, you know what? Cody Rhodes is

1:26:44

like a lot of people where they hesitate.

1:26:47

The moment passes. It's my

1:26:49

decision now. And

1:26:52

I choose the

1:26:54

rock and the

1:26:56

fans boo. I'm of course, I'm there.

1:26:58

They took more time than this, but I'm getting to the

1:27:00

meat of the matter. Roman

1:27:03

again, it cuts a great promo and

1:27:05

he seems so natural, but

1:27:07

he's, he's, they've already slept off Cody and

1:27:09

now it's he, I choose the rock. I'm

1:27:12

going to fight the rock and

1:27:14

the fans boo and the rock music

1:27:17

plays and the fans boo the rock,

1:27:21

but you could tell in this one, the,

1:27:24

here's the thing. The

1:27:27

reason why that we believe that this

1:27:30

was not their original plan besides the fact

1:27:33

that it's pretty obvious it wasn't their original

1:27:35

plan before punk got

1:27:37

hurt, before Brock became a goddamn

1:27:40

pariah, before the

1:27:42

rock to say he was going to get

1:27:44

this $30 million and decided, Hey, I can

1:27:46

save the day, whatever. They

1:27:49

were going to go with rock and or with

1:27:51

Roman and Cody and

1:27:54

that. Damn punk. Yes.

1:27:59

And the reason. that you

1:28:01

can point back to, they have

1:28:03

done a masterful pivot. The pivoting

1:28:05

is about to begin here. But

1:28:09

the only thing that they couldn't wipe out

1:28:11

completely, they may have even left the wiggle

1:28:13

room on purpose. I don't know. But

1:28:17

the only thing they can't wipe out completely

1:28:19

that was set on live TV was

1:28:22

when Cody said, I am going to finish

1:28:24

the story but not

1:28:26

at WrestleMania. And

1:28:30

now they can... I

1:28:33

think they're ignoring that completely or if they

1:28:35

don't, they might

1:28:37

try to close that loophole

1:28:39

up with saying, well, it's not going to

1:28:41

be completely finished or whatever the fuck. But

1:28:44

it looks pretty obvious that's what they were

1:28:46

going to do until the backlash made them

1:28:49

rethink their strategy. And then I

1:28:52

think the rock with

1:28:54

some egg on his face tried

1:28:58

to turn as the

1:29:00

person whose name we're not allowed to speak

1:29:02

anymore used to say, turn a negative into

1:29:04

a positive and figure

1:29:07

out a way where he can again say,

1:29:09

well, because you know he had heavy input

1:29:11

in this. So

1:29:13

he's probably tried to figure out the way, well, we

1:29:16

can do it like this and it's

1:29:20

like we meant to do

1:29:22

it all along and I'll

1:29:24

be a heel because

1:29:26

now he gets a chance to... I

1:29:30

mean every great star, actor, wrestling

1:29:32

star, whatever at one point wants

1:29:34

to be the villain. So

1:29:36

he gets to do that but

1:29:38

it wasn't what they were originally

1:29:41

expectifying. No, we'll

1:29:43

go into the different theories later on

1:29:45

but they did hear what the smartest

1:29:47

thing to do for professional wrestling is

1:29:49

lean into what's working. Despite

1:29:52

and this is something that WWE traditionally has

1:29:54

not done well. They've ignored

1:29:56

fan reaction because they have a story they want

1:29:58

to get to their way. They.

1:30:01

Leaned into. What?

1:30:03

Was. I. Mean, as hot

1:30:05

a wrestling shatter online as there was. I

1:30:07

mean, the interested in this stuff blew up.

1:30:10

So. They could have screwed it up. Instead,

1:30:12

they made everything better. On.

1:30:15

This event of Wrestlemania take off. I

1:30:19

mean, I'll let you go back to reviewing it,

1:30:21

but. They. Leaned into it a pivoted.

1:30:23

And. They did everything right. Where.

1:30:26

You could tell that rock was coming

1:30:28

out with a completely different objective because

1:30:30

of the expressed on his face and

1:30:32

the way he walked out. On.

1:30:35

This one as opposed to. The.

1:30:38

Previous: What of. As

1:30:40

he but as he appeared twice now.

1:30:42

Surprise Pops The to Surprise Pops. Yeah,

1:30:44

yeah, work at all. Said: this wasn't

1:30:46

even a real. It

1:30:49

I will say a real crowd but this

1:30:51

wasn't a. Good.

1:30:53

Ticket purchasing crowd at a house show or

1:30:55

Tv taping this was last minute thing. Put

1:30:58

together their beds and there were a lot

1:31:00

of rock Chance more than there were when

1:31:02

the ticket purchasing patrons were involved. So.

1:31:06

You. couldn't get of you can do of we

1:31:08

you know. Fair

1:31:10

comparison. But just his.

1:31:13

As. Howard think will bless him. You say

1:31:15

his demeanor. The. expression on

1:31:17

his face. His. Body.

1:31:20

Language: The way walked moved,

1:31:22

From. The start when he came out. And.

1:31:25

The way he was reacting to the booze.

1:31:29

You could tell that he was out

1:31:31

there. Gave his

1:31:33

objective was to he knew you'd go

1:31:36

slap code interface. He wanted him to

1:31:38

boo but he wanted. To

1:31:40

show that he was getting more and more.

1:31:43

Ticked off by this disrespect that he

1:31:45

was get not only from the people,

1:31:47

but then. When. It came

1:31:49

from Cody. His. His motivation

1:31:52

if he's done the acting lessons

1:31:54

right, That was his motivation for

1:31:56

his character. But.

1:31:58

It. He did a great. The bit

1:32:00

because last week. He. Came out

1:32:02

or showed his arm on the camera on

1:32:04

on the handheld. We had goose bumps from

1:32:06

the cheers of all the people. And.

1:32:09

Now they're booing him. And

1:32:11

he's getting surly about. It. Is

1:32:14

this was when they had to.

1:32:17

Between. Last Friday night. And

1:32:19

water and the stuff that happened over

1:32:21

the weekend have been Monday's reactions. They

1:32:24

had put this together. And

1:32:27

now this a new this is what

1:32:29

he had fucking do an. Wherever.

1:32:31

They're gone from here. As you said, a lot

1:32:34

better. Fucking. Than we thought we were

1:32:36

gonna get. We probably were going to get. And

1:32:39

the people were chanting. Are

1:32:42

you know what we want? Cody? And

1:32:44

in there, but there be a. A

1:32:47

smaller. You. Know response

1:32:50

We want Cody. Cody sucks

1:32:52

way while ago. acre and

1:32:54

one guy and about rocky.

1:32:56

Rocky. Some. Vog and drunk.

1:32:59

And but is it? It went at a

1:33:01

snail's pace for a while because rock was

1:33:03

letting the people react and just milk in

1:33:06

it. And. The.

1:33:09

You know, he asked if. The. People

1:33:11

Will Rock vs. Roman Reigns be the

1:33:13

biggest match ever and they booed. Over

1:33:16

Iraq. Love the passion. Etti

1:33:19

try to talk again they starts and

1:33:21

we want cody. And

1:33:23

that's when he is introduces everybody to

1:33:25

the. Cody. Cry Babies!

1:33:27

Go! There is a some segment of

1:33:30

the audience right that that likes code.

1:33:32

He introduced their phrase on Pat Mcafee

1:33:34

show where he tunnel when he'll and.

1:33:37

Was. Last year and a little bit somewhat

1:33:39

and character at the fancy Cosm. The.

1:33:41

Cody. Cry Babies! They

1:33:44

have enough for most creative thing but he's

1:33:46

an anabolic asshole what he expect that are

1:33:48

you there. But. He had the work.

1:33:50

There were them, yet Nick com with many

1:33:52

pointed them out. So they're leaning into the

1:33:54

idea that here's the ruff. the leading into

1:33:56

reality is the riots. And. All of

1:33:59

his influence and all. Flippers and

1:34:01

Stooges all getting hooked up there, Weaning

1:34:03

India and of smart. And.

1:34:06

Well and boy, by the time we had to smack

1:34:08

down. A but

1:34:11

does it the and then that's when.

1:34:14

He. Popped the family tree up on

1:34:16

the screen and the crowd started worrying

1:34:18

the wrong. Gonna blue Driven by the

1:34:20

great a who would have ever thought.

1:34:23

But. He worked with it. Because.

1:34:27

They're They're quick. wins. Do. And.

1:34:30

The tree pops up on the

1:34:32

screen and he said there's only

1:34:34

one royal Family and professional wrestling.

1:34:38

And. A They showed the lineage where

1:34:40

his and Romans grandfather were blood brothers. A

1:34:42

wet when did? When did we ever heard

1:34:44

that before? Have you heard that. Beginning.

1:34:47

Of a story I always heard. Alpha and Seeking

1:34:49

are fans of Peter. My V and I went

1:34:51

to the Cow Palace. We. S: Did

1:34:53

you ever hear that their grandfathers made a

1:34:55

blood oath? Know. Oh

1:34:59

goodness I don't even notice was never my

1:35:01

of on their he's really the person should

1:35:03

be off right? because he was a one

1:35:05

of it's was Peter my Vienna become. Peter.

1:35:08

My Via. Neff. Was not

1:35:10

invited. Fab for the people. Now

1:35:12

we've gone for the younger listeners. We're

1:35:14

we're just speaking gibberish now. And.

1:35:17

Taken at one at a time offer and

1:35:19

seek out on a why. We're.

1:35:22

To Samoan fans in the Cow

1:35:24

Palace days same Cisco in mid

1:35:26

sixties late say whatever it was

1:35:28

that were so. Not.

1:35:30

Only bad ass but also such huge

1:35:33

fans of Chief Peter My via. That.

1:35:36

They would try to beat the shit and succeed

1:35:38

in beating the shit out of the heels. On.

1:35:41

The way back from the fuck and

1:35:43

matches after hot finishes and. As

1:35:46

so finally they had a smart them up

1:35:48

and and break him into the business often

1:35:50

seek it to keep. I'm from Guillen the

1:35:52

fuck and boy for your majesty Wrestle Peter

1:35:54

my the and especially the ring as Giants

1:35:56

modes and punched in used to yellow Room.

1:35:59

And somebody look at me, look at a

1:36:01

picture of what often seek a look like

1:36:03

in Nineteen Seventy Two or whatever instead of

1:36:05

today and figure out what that would have

1:36:08

been like. An Peter

1:36:10

My via. Whose. Real

1:36:12

name was on the family tree

1:36:14

was of. Funny. Know

1:36:17

Anderson correct? Threat.

1:36:19

And. But. When

1:36:21

he got into wrestling their, it only been

1:36:23

one. Really? Of them

1:36:26

sumo wrestler of any kind of

1:36:28

fame of who had been ness

1:36:30

my var. Spells, Slightly

1:36:32

differently, but people who named Peter my

1:36:35

via peter my via did not spell

1:36:37

it. And it became my

1:36:39

via and he got. Much. More

1:36:41

over anyway. And than that was when you

1:36:43

thought of. A Samoan and

1:36:46

wrestling from the early sixties on. You.

1:36:49

Thought of Peter My via. And.

1:36:51

Apparently now. Maybe.

1:36:55

As a condition of late may be my be

1:36:57

A went to. Often seek his

1:36:59

father and said a. L

1:37:02

train these fucking kids of years and

1:37:04

make money into wrestling business. If they

1:37:06

won't kill. All. Of our

1:37:09

heels. And you and I can

1:37:11

be blood brothers. It. Maybe they also

1:37:13

left on twenty of Soul Mans kids

1:37:15

from the ah lineage of their. Evil

1:37:18

or whatever. There was a many many

1:37:20

illegitimate so should have Rocky Johnson all

1:37:22

over the plant. Legitimate heir. There.

1:37:25

Were there was never any complete proof

1:37:27

of that was there are other than

1:37:29

Dna and and know nothing. Will

1:37:31

know you know better but he will it

1:37:33

ever room on the giant tightened drawn but

1:37:35

nevertheless the to good time so the all

1:37:37

know why he getting away from my via

1:37:40

branches are getting away from the reality of

1:37:42

it. It was a good. For. The

1:37:44

way things went. And. Kind of

1:37:46

the rock leaning into the Will Smith thing of

1:37:48

don't say anything about my family are all slap

1:37:50

you Yeah. It. Made sense because you had

1:37:52

to get some the rock and roman being at

1:37:55

each other. To. Them being. On.

1:37:57

The same side and it was. N

1:38:00

N. that's the thing is, there was so

1:38:02

many names there and you know you saw

1:38:04

enough of them. If you freeze frames it,

1:38:06

I'm sure a bunch of the video technicians

1:38:08

out there dead and tried to read. It

1:38:10

was legitimate in terms of not only a

1:38:12

lot of the. Are all

1:38:15

of the wrestlers are wrestling. Connected

1:38:17

family members, but just them. The

1:38:19

rest of the family members not

1:38:21

including everybody as you mentioned, but.

1:38:24

The. Ignore the official ones. And

1:38:27

down at the bottom was Jacob thought to. That.

1:38:29

Was interesting a day. Include know there's no because

1:38:31

there were names that we're not on. they're. Not.

1:38:34

Everyone's name who has been in wrestling from As

1:38:36

and Wales? I was on there. Aren't.

1:38:39

As i couldn't find a i didn't

1:38:41

get a shot of everything was maneuver

1:38:43

he everybody were from ah new my

1:38:45

favorite of i always have soldering one.

1:38:47

Why does. I. Did the

1:38:49

Alice.us so I doubt it. shadow but Jake

1:38:51

of that to was pretty prominent was towards

1:38:53

the bottom so was almost close to the

1:38:55

yeah. Wear. Them. The. Head of

1:38:57

the person talking in front of it would be. He's.

1:39:00

A free agent. A guest book of

1:39:02

these open. I'm out. And. They're

1:39:04

saying that he wants to sign somewhere. And.

1:39:07

He can work. For a boy,

1:39:10

howdy? But.

1:39:12

Anyway so new ownership may not

1:39:14

care about legal issues of with

1:39:16

Vince State I'm you have see

1:39:18

as funny or reprobate on their

1:39:20

roster. Don't a yes road including

1:39:22

the day know? Why didn't you

1:39:24

know a hottie come air. Power

1:39:27

Slap. Her. No problem.

1:39:29

Air. so. Anyway,

1:39:32

but didn't. The. Rock.

1:39:35

Vs. Roman Reigns is the biggest Wrestlemania

1:39:37

match ever. As what the Rock is, Say

1:39:40

it. If you don't think that it doesn't

1:39:42

matter what you think. Blah.

1:39:45

Blah blah and. The.

1:39:47

Rock and Roman Reigns do the

1:39:49

handshake and and a slight hug.

1:39:52

And. Then suddenly Cody would know music and

1:39:55

no introduction Toadies is comes out on stage

1:39:57

is not are not. This. Is

1:39:59

bullshit. It. This. Is

1:40:01

bullshit and gets a huge rock

1:40:03

and pop. An.

1:40:07

And now suddenly that Cody has come out

1:40:09

in his address and I'm rock switches over

1:40:11

It is Dan and on a side with

1:40:13

Roman Reigns. Paul Heyman. And.

1:40:16

Cody fires up as a the

1:40:18

choice is mine are one the

1:40:20

Royal Rumble. And. My

1:40:22

decision is at Wrestlemania Forty

1:40:24

I choose Roman Reigns. And

1:40:27

that got a big pop. And here now

1:40:29

here comes all this and peers and Triple

1:40:31

H your run out. And

1:40:34

Roman is said year old news. Go

1:40:36

to the loser bracket nobody cares right?

1:40:39

blah blah blah. Rawlins hanging in the

1:40:41

back the whole time paying attention sir

1:40:43

yes and other that added a lot

1:40:46

of it's an he's technically when always

1:40:48

hang and bakkies on cody side over

1:40:50

there. And

1:40:52

as as Roman is knock

1:40:55

and dusty, then. Cody.

1:40:57

Far back as a your family.

1:41:00

Oh your family are yes men

1:41:02

and goons. And if your

1:41:04

grandfather, Peter my via were be here

1:41:06

they would be here Now they be

1:41:08

ashamed of yeah. And.

1:41:11

And know rocks deaths us to

1:41:13

Cody are I have it. Would.

1:41:16

You talk about his family. You're.

1:41:19

Talking about mine. You.

1:41:22

Talk about his blood. Your target

1:41:24

about my blood. So now we

1:41:26

have a problem. Admiral

1:41:28

calls often slabs cody.

1:41:31

As with any worse miss having as were just

1:41:34

as from. Well. There you go.

1:41:37

Might. Be the closest rock comes to

1:41:39

the Oscar ceremony again these day. Or

1:41:42

but I'm a bad influence. Thought you were. You

1:41:44

are. But I mean it. You know? I

1:41:47

don't always go to get nominated for this word, but

1:41:49

it's good to draw some money. But

1:41:52

is so that he slaps Cody

1:41:54

and everybody reacts. And Heyman was

1:41:56

fucking as They got freeze frames

1:41:58

on. Twitter. of Haman's face,

1:42:00

it was incredible. And

1:42:05

they're trying to hold Cody back and

1:42:08

he's taken out and Seth

1:42:10

leaves with him

1:42:12

and Rock stays out on

1:42:14

the stage with Roman and Paul and

1:42:16

they go to the announcers

1:42:19

to try to make sense of this. And did

1:42:21

you notice that Big E said, I don't know,

1:42:23

what are we trying to set up here? A

1:42:26

tag? And all of

1:42:28

a sudden you see on his

1:42:30

face, somebody told him in his

1:42:32

ear, shut the fuck up. Shut

1:42:34

the fuck up or

1:42:36

you're fucking fired. Because

1:42:38

they didn't want to lead him down that road yet. So

1:42:42

there is no more mention of that, but I love it

1:42:44

when he, because he hasn't had any experience with what are

1:42:46

we trying to build here? I

1:42:48

thought Big E was kind of really good on this

1:42:50

because he was reacting almost as if there was no

1:42:52

headset for everything the whole time they asked him. He

1:42:55

was giving real reactions or real thoughts or at least

1:42:57

he seemed like it. So it was really effective. Well

1:42:59

yeah, in this case, he really was confused. What

1:43:02

the fuck was going on? And Triple H set up the

1:43:04

tag match at the very beginning when he was going over

1:43:06

the history of the first WrestleMania and how it was a

1:43:08

tag match there. And the

1:43:11

other thing about the desk, McAfee was fine.

1:43:13

Michael Cole did really well. At

1:43:16

the very end especially, CM Punk stole

1:43:18

the show because of two things. CM

1:43:21

Punk talking about how someone

1:43:23

slapped you, I would punch him right in

1:43:26

the face and the rock is in the

1:43:28

background on the stage without a microphone and

1:43:30

you see his reaction instantly when he hears

1:43:32

what Punk says and then you just see

1:43:34

him mouthing things at Punk. It

1:43:37

was amazing. It was so good. And

1:43:39

then Punk talking about his theories of punching people

1:43:41

in the face. Well

1:43:44

yeah, because now they're saying, well hey,

1:43:46

the rock's on the board of directors.

1:43:49

Technically, he's the

1:43:51

boss of it. And Punk

1:43:53

says, well I don't care if it's

1:43:55

me, if it's somebody fucking slaps me,

1:43:57

if it's my boss, I'm whipping everybody's

1:43:59

ass. Oh

1:44:02

my god, that was again for

1:44:05

the fans and for those who know, they know. So

1:44:08

Punk was really good. I thought the panel was really good

1:44:10

and it worked well the way they used it but that

1:44:12

wasn't the end because then we get Triple H in the

1:44:14

back. Well, and that's

1:44:16

the thing is the panel is killing time and

1:44:18

you think they're wrapping up and then they

1:44:21

do go to Triple H in the

1:44:23

back, the ramp leading to the parking

1:44:25

area or whatever and

1:44:29

right as he started talking, well, you know, you've

1:44:31

got these guys are just this

1:44:33

lost control. Here comes

1:44:36

Rock and Roman and Heyman walking

1:44:39

together. Well Heyman toting

1:44:41

in the back and

1:44:44

they pass Triple H and the Rock says,

1:44:46

fix it. Fix this

1:44:48

or we will. And there was some, he

1:44:50

said some fucking guy used the F word

1:44:52

and they bleep that. And

1:44:56

you know, and they walk off together. So

1:44:59

now it's Rock and Roman

1:45:02

in some kind of super tribal

1:45:05

summit and

1:45:08

he has slapped Cody Rhodes in

1:45:10

the face. We have been promised

1:45:12

Cody versus Roman at WrestleMania. And

1:45:16

as we'll talk about, we get to SmackDown.

1:45:21

They're now teasing the fact

1:45:23

that the Rock has pull, but that

1:45:25

there's Triple H is going to push

1:45:27

back on the pull. And

1:45:32

then you got CM Punk out

1:45:34

there saying this was a quote,

1:45:36

personal issues can be solved when

1:45:39

men fight. And

1:45:42

that's what everybody wants to see is all

1:45:44

these fuckers fighting each other. This

1:45:47

was a fantastic event. It left

1:45:49

you wanting more, wanting to see what's going to

1:45:51

happen. I will say I hope

1:45:53

they don't go too heavy into bad

1:45:56

authority figure versus good authority figure.

1:45:59

You know, I don't know how to do it. How did in a. Thread.

1:46:01

The needle the get to wrestlemania but. This.

1:46:04

Is incredibly promising. He'll rock.

1:46:06

User. To be carefully doesn't over

1:46:09

shadow Roman. Yeah. Because

1:46:11

House Roman, the leader of the bloodline of the Rock,

1:46:13

is right next to a Molests Rock says you're the

1:46:15

leader. But. This is

1:46:17

great stuff! Well. When they may

1:46:19

have to still settle that later on. But

1:46:21

in the meantime their family has been disrespected.

1:46:23

So and a runner be in the rocket

1:46:26

a tag match less likely to get hurts.

1:46:28

That. In the singles match. There.

1:46:30

You go. But when would that tag team

1:46:32

match be? One. Of the

1:46:34

night's to wrestle mania you would think. Well.

1:46:37

Maybe maybe not. We don't know what fox

1:46:39

going on here. do we for wire not

1:46:41

book for elimination chamber? Not in a couple

1:46:43

weeks ago. Rush something like that you wouldn't

1:46:45

think. We'll.

1:46:48

See, I mean we still don't know what. Love any

1:46:50

of the main events? Wrestling really are. It's

1:46:52

a fluid situation where we know that

1:46:54

tony government moment nets right. Road.

1:46:57

Like home at this as a fluently and when's your

1:46:59

wage should. Be. Aware of whatever.

1:47:01

yes whatever. we just said. business of

1:47:03

fluid situation because there's to make it

1:47:05

it up because they go along based

1:47:07

on the last said not working but

1:47:09

so far. It's.

1:47:11

Fucking great. Whole.

1:47:14

Gym that was the Wrestlemania kick off and

1:47:16

hopefully the do more events like that in

1:47:18

the future. Great energy, Exciting! Everyone was talking

1:47:20

about it. At. The great numbers on

1:47:22

you tube live as in a few hundred thousand

1:47:24

people. Watching. A just they're not even on

1:47:27

p thought. Oh and in the video

1:47:29

of some of the important stuff was up over

1:47:31

a couple a million by the next day. He.

1:47:34

Er visit A great job leaning into this the

1:47:36

big pivots. And. Speaking a big pivots.

1:47:39

We. Had a pivot right now. It's a real time.

1:47:41

Because. Right now in the real world gym.

1:47:43

Cornet. You've. Was a new line

1:47:46

of action figures. They are on sale.

1:47:48

We're talking commerce. We're talking sales. Many.

1:47:51

Other people want to launch something. And.

1:47:53

Have some help for commerce and sales.

1:47:56

And. Website. And other

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words, words in front. This is

1:48:00

Jim our friends at shopify could be

1:48:02

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and they sold it. Will a to

1:48:20

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1:48:23

than a million dollars but that's not

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It's amazing that I can read this

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quite some Us. Is

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not have a top he was dead opposite to

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you maintain it and they'll help your kids fuck it

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expensive. I can't say cheap because

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that, that applies flimsiness and lack

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of reliability. And that's the furthest

1:50:19

thing from the Shopify platforms that

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you're going to find that are

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supporting your business, selling your goods and

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know, there's some people out there just don't have

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on a troop train, but

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here with Shopify, you could

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open the biggest little whore house

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in Texas. So right now,

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going to raise your bottom line exponentially

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sounds like a country song. A smile is the

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at the state of you at this stage of the game,

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what we want. If

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you want to Shopify, then

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no one will Shopify better than

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Shopify. We didn't even

1:52:20

talk about not just selling your own stuff anymore,

1:52:22

but selling other people's stuff. But I don't think

1:52:24

we only had time. If we only had time,

1:52:26

there's so many things to go over. And again,

1:52:29

we're recording again tomorrow, so stay tuned

1:52:31

to the YouTube channel. It's going to be packed with

1:52:33

shit. Jim, Phil

1:52:35

Mushnick has weighed in on

1:52:37

the Vince McMahon scandal. My old

1:52:39

friend, my bosom buddy, old Phil Mushnick, he

1:52:41

never has too much good to say about

1:52:43

wrestling. Is he normally a happy guy? You

1:52:46

get to read him in the newspapers up

1:52:48

there regularly, right? I read his column in

1:52:50

the New York Post. I read the New

1:52:52

York Post Sports section. I always have liked

1:52:54

it. He's, uh, his column's called Equal Time.

1:52:57

It's always kind of the pessimistic,

1:53:01

negative, most negative possible

1:53:03

look. And it almost is like

1:53:05

it's coming from someone from like 1945, like

1:53:07

came over in a time machine. But

1:53:10

he also has some funny points every now and then.

1:53:13

Every once in a while. Well, the headline of this article here,

1:53:15

February 8th, 2024 in the New York Post, hosting

1:53:21

Super Bowl 2024 in crime-ridden

1:53:23

Las Vegas, a rotten choice

1:53:26

by NFL. What? So

1:53:28

that just sets the tone for what

1:53:31

it is. When I say it's always like, you know,

1:53:33

the most like punched in the gut. Look

1:53:36

at how awful this is. So

1:53:38

let me go down a little bit. Here's

1:53:41

the headline. Trump was

1:53:43

warned that McManus sleaze.

1:53:47

Now that most everyone knows what

1:53:50

this column years ago investigated and

1:53:52

reported. Oh, he's an I

1:53:54

told you sewer that Vince McMahon is a

1:53:56

twisted creep. It

1:53:59

Brings to mind A. The only chat I

1:54:01

had with Donald Trump. Before.

1:54:03

He became president. As

1:54:06

Trump was throwing in with madman. Playing.

1:54:09

And entering clown. Don't.

1:54:11

Madman, paper view, and

1:54:14

often salacious extravaganzas. I.

1:54:17

Offered Trump for large boxes

1:54:19

of documents, To. Show him

1:54:21

that Mcmahon reds Raj and decimal.

1:54:24

And. A. Sexually

1:54:26

perverted operation. Even

1:54:29

indulging. The employment

1:54:31

of known pedophiles. Who.

1:54:33

Became the target of inside jokes.

1:54:36

On. The Man's Telecasts. Trump.

1:54:39

Dismissed at all. Rationalizing.

1:54:42

That he donates his appearance fees to

1:54:44

charities. Though

1:54:46

he really does though he didn't say

1:54:48

how much or given name of the

1:54:50

charities. As this that

1:54:52

excuse his service as a madman

1:54:55

attraction. And

1:54:57

so. As. Trump was inducted

1:54:59

into Mcmahon Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame.

1:55:02

His. Wife Linda was soon name

1:55:04

President Trump's cabinet. Or

1:55:06

to President Trump's cabinet has his

1:55:09

you his name the whole cabinet

1:55:11

as the Secretary of Small Business.

1:55:14

Mrs. With Man not only participated

1:55:16

in her husband's most vulgar skits.

1:55:19

And sales of merchandise. The kids.

1:55:22

Are business at him and included. T.

1:55:24

Shirts that read such. With

1:55:27

an arrow pointing towards the crotch.

1:55:30

Or. Of she had astonishingly been

1:55:33

appointed to Connecticut's Board of Education.

1:55:36

Then. She claimed to have been an

1:55:38

education major in college. When.

1:55:40

She majored in friends. Who

1:55:43

can replace or college may wait a minute. Wait,

1:55:46

A minute. What else would you want?

1:55:48

A major and besides friendship, you were

1:55:51

going to spend your life telling people

1:55:53

to suck it. A success. As so

1:55:55

much that says here, but who can

1:55:57

recall their college major. It's.

1:56:00

All com. All. Of

1:56:02

it. And. That's the

1:56:04

yeah. Then he goes on to the as a problem

1:56:06

with does. Jason. Alexander for being

1:56:08

in a gambling commercial. And.

1:56:11

Wait a minute George. George.

1:56:13

Costanza now Jason Alexander formerly

1:56:15

known as George The Stanza

1:56:17

appears in Tv ads pitching

1:56:19

a real stakes online poker.

1:56:22

Of. Course. Everyone wins

1:56:24

in such commands. Does.

1:56:27

Alexander receive raking in a

1:56:29

skyline of stats ships. Are

1:56:33

right. Way. So you can

1:56:35

do a booger drummer show. I.

1:56:38

Just not. I mean, you know, easy. Unfortunately

1:56:40

the Ww Ii and Vinson, Linda

1:56:43

and everybody else gave all fill

1:56:45

their a bunch to work with

1:56:47

on his. Who. Will

1:56:49

blurb there, but at the same time

1:56:51

he does sound like a sour doom

1:56:54

and gloom mother fucker detonate. You.

1:56:56

Know you want someone to look at all the

1:56:58

bad shit, but. If like

1:57:00

every column I, everything he writes is negative and

1:57:02

I guess that's kind of is saying might. Not.

1:57:05

Even is a negative person but I just

1:57:08

gimmick. Fate is given. his job is the

1:57:10

right. The negative. Or. Look at

1:57:12

the. Only. The Cb

1:57:14

side of things. Time.

1:57:16

To really. Understand. Is not really

1:57:19

a media reporter says. He's

1:57:21

not ready for is just like. He's a

1:57:23

commentator. I. Mean his

1:57:26

columns cook equally. I'm it's and zero accuse

1:57:28

people accuse me and you a lot of

1:57:30

being out a day just like the knock

1:57:33

everything but we praise people in we pray

1:57:35

we don't hate Las Vegas just for the

1:57:37

sake of it. Big entertainment events do and

1:57:39

sports events do happen there. Would.

1:57:43

He rather it be and fuckin' Vincenzo.

1:57:46

Indiana. I'm.

1:57:48

Not sure. I'm

1:57:51

on the six side. Thus,

1:57:53

I still don't understand why this past

1:57:55

week. Again, Women's.

1:57:58

College teams dress head to toe. The

1:58:00

speakers. Included. In

1:58:02

pink. To show their

1:58:04

support for children breast cancer. So.

1:58:07

I again ask. Why?

1:58:09

Not everyone will a conspicuous

1:58:12

pink ribbon. Rather,

1:58:14

Than spend tens of thousands of

1:58:16

dollars on picking somebody else. One.

1:58:19

I don't a that money to cancer

1:58:21

research. Rather, Than

1:58:23

on fleeting public relations. Such

1:58:27

as a victim of negative way of looking

1:58:29

at that right? Oh

1:58:31

how dare this man dressed all in

1:58:33

red and white come down my chimney

1:58:35

and fucking leave all those presents the

1:58:37

wrapping paper got everywhere. I think he's

1:58:39

damage to the gym the I'm going

1:58:42

to have to have it inspected. And

1:58:44

the reindeer shit on the roof. Did.

1:58:47

Anyone else him a problem with the

1:58:50

breast cancer days? Pink. Else that

1:58:52

any what I said that's a waste of money.

1:58:55

I. Don't if they if it. Also,

1:58:57

if they wanted to wear pink assume

1:59:00

didn't days. Maybe. They bought their

1:59:02

own or. The. School

1:59:04

gotta have. A

1:59:06

grant from the Exxon core. Brace yourself.

1:59:08

I don't fucking know, I wouldn't. we

1:59:10

examine the how the people bought their.

1:59:13

Fucking. Uniforms when they were trying to

1:59:15

bring awareness to a. Certain.

1:59:17

Situation. This does bring up an interesting question and again

1:59:19

you have a little bit of a history with. Must

1:59:22

know from the promo you can on him on Raul.

1:59:25

But. To. The people

1:59:27

that. Were. Calling out Vince in

1:59:29

the early nineties. And.

1:59:31

Amongst the wrestlers, a lot of them and

1:59:33

I'm going back to work for him at

1:59:35

one time or another. Some of them didn't

1:59:37

like David Salts, Billie Jack Aims. I

1:59:40

will talk about him a moron am later. Various.

1:59:43

Other people. But. Bruno

1:59:45

San Martino. Eventually you'll join the Hall of Fame and

1:59:47

was a part of the. Alumni

1:59:49

of the lameness of stubby to be

1:59:51

Ii. But.

1:59:53

There were people calling him after a lot of things

1:59:55

and. He. Knows you go back

1:59:57

and look at things. They. knew

2:00:00

what was up with Mel Phillips when

2:00:02

they rehired him after firing him? You

2:00:06

know, like they knew a lot of things and I

2:00:08

guess to some people like Phil Mushnick, and again

2:00:10

he may have a negative tone in his stuff

2:00:12

and everything is just, you know, why are they

2:00:15

wasting money? Who is this person? Whatever. But

2:00:18

to the people that have been waiting for this

2:00:20

moment, like it's almost like they knew it was

2:00:22

gonna one day come because they saw something

2:00:24

in Vince then that a lot of other people

2:00:26

didn't see. Well,

2:00:29

coming from, and I guess

2:00:31

this guy is an extreme example, he's all

2:00:33

the way over on one side of the

2:00:35

fence, but coming

2:00:37

from the real world, yes, when

2:00:39

you examined the wrestling business in

2:00:41

any of its practices, not just

2:00:45

related to Mel Phillips and his, you

2:00:47

know, feed activities or whatever is going

2:00:49

on with Terry Garvin, you

2:00:52

know, a guy uses a blade, whatever

2:00:54

the fuck, it's bizarre when

2:00:57

you examine what goes on and went on

2:00:59

in wrestling. And,

2:01:02

you know, that's the

2:01:05

thing with Vince is

2:01:07

people knew that he

2:01:09

was, we've always said he was

2:01:12

weird and people

2:01:14

could extrapolate, well look at all this going

2:01:16

on, but I was not around

2:01:19

the ring boy scandal in

2:01:21

the 80s because we were down south

2:01:23

working for Crockett, but

2:01:25

I always assumed, besides

2:01:27

the fact that people have wrongly maligned Pat

2:01:29

Patterson just because he was gay and was

2:01:32

in the middle of the fucking

2:01:34

company in so many different ways,

2:01:37

but he and Garvin

2:01:39

and Phillips were completely

2:01:41

different cases. But

2:01:43

I could never figure out from my

2:01:45

experience there why

2:01:47

Vince would have given a fuck About

2:01:51

who the God Mel Phillips, whether he's gonna

2:01:53

announce or he's gonna take jackets or who

2:01:55

the fuck is Mel Phillips? He's like the

2:01:57

merchandise weasel. Fuck it, he caused it. The

2:02:00

Problem. Get the fuck rid of it. And

2:02:03

I get is it was because of. The

2:02:06

you know Terry Garvin was little bit higher

2:02:08

ranked. Individual. All.

2:02:11

He was. He was on the corporate ladder. He was

2:02:13

an executive. Yeah, You. Know that

2:02:15

where I could see? Well, they didn't. You know? They

2:02:19

didn't want to bury themselves

2:02:21

by just publicly fuckin' Kick

2:02:23

and him under the bus because he was up

2:02:25

there. But mail celebes? Just a stooge. And.

2:02:28

I never understood why they went to. Get

2:02:32

away any trouble to protect him

2:02:34

and anyway or whatever. But

2:02:37

I couldn't see Vince. At his.

2:02:40

Level. You know, interacting with

2:02:42

his low level shit did it did getting

2:02:44

to that extent. And

2:02:47

I never understood what maybe. Now it's like,

2:02:49

well they knew something on fuck advance. Who

2:02:51

the fuck knows. And.

2:02:54

They didn't have been d a's back then. see

2:02:56

that's one of the things as the wonder how

2:02:58

many people. Especially. From the

2:03:00

early days when was a smaller circle, the company

2:03:02

was a smaller company. How many people if any?

2:03:05

Had. When that Vince was in the six shit,

2:03:08

And. Or who knew what I mean My is that a

2:03:10

who knew what. And

2:03:12

when a h m it again I

2:03:15

think he was. I. Mean

2:03:17

I'll or know that Vince has always been

2:03:19

in the read, it shattered and thing. and

2:03:21

yes he's messed around on Linda but I

2:03:23

would have to think he. Somehow.

2:03:26

Got into these extremes late in life

2:03:28

when he the rest of his brain

2:03:30

went away when he became a billionaire.

2:03:32

Whatever. Because. You would have. You.

2:03:34

Would have heard some of this shit. There's.

2:03:37

No way that the boys in the

2:03:39

eighties they weren't that scared. events that

2:03:42

that that. Fade. But as

2:03:44

of the guys in the eighties from the

2:03:46

territory's had seen a lot of things and

2:03:48

we're not easily scared of people. And.

2:03:51

Didn't. At. That point, have the

2:03:53

thought that will my job is over in

2:03:55

the wrestling business entirely if Vince is pissed

2:03:57

off at me cause it And get to

2:03:59

that point. You would not have

2:04:01

been able to keep that chatter quiet.

2:04:04

But again, in the 80s, Rita

2:04:06

Chatterton was a referee. She was the only

2:04:08

female referee. There was Miss Elizabeth. There was

2:04:10

Sherry Martell. Before that, there was Mula.

2:04:14

There was Wendy Richter. There

2:04:16

was Mula Stable. Different

2:04:19

people did things with different promoters, but you never hear anything

2:04:21

about Vince with that. There

2:04:23

weren't that many women around. And

2:04:26

now, especially since the attitude

2:04:28

I read, it just became a meat market

2:04:30

almost. But there were... It

2:04:33

is, I consider, who was hiring them. There were

2:04:35

many more women in those days at

2:04:37

the shows and at the hotels and

2:04:39

waiting at the various places where the

2:04:41

guys ate and whatever. So I'm just...I

2:04:45

don't know. But again, that's

2:04:47

why I always wondered when

2:04:49

I heard about it and when

2:04:51

I was there, seeing the company in

2:04:53

action, why would Mel Phillips, this

2:04:55

lowly fuckwit, have

2:04:58

been tolerated? You

2:05:01

know... Why did they want

2:05:03

dirty stooges? Why did they want

2:05:05

dirty stooges who were going to do anything they said

2:05:07

and they knew they had nowhere else

2:05:09

to go? That's

2:05:12

the question. I don't know if we're ever getting

2:05:14

an answer to that. But

2:05:16

Jim, let's move on from Phil Mushnick

2:05:18

and Vince to

2:05:20

another Vince story. And we'll save a little bit of

2:05:23

the Vince stuff for tomorrow on the experience when we

2:05:25

record it. Brett

2:05:27

the Hitman Hart has spoken out now. Well,

2:05:29

that's what I was going to say. If

2:05:32

Brett Hart had heard any stories

2:05:34

with details approaching

2:05:38

what we've heard lately about Vince McMahon,

2:05:41

I have a hard time believing that

2:05:43

he wouldn't have made

2:05:45

reference, right, from

2:05:47

years ago. You would think so. You

2:05:49

would certainly hope so. I guess Brett Hart stole a

2:05:51

lot of people's hero. But

2:05:54

an article here from... Well, he's saying

2:05:56

it now and the stuff he says now sounds like

2:05:58

the shit that he used to do. Save.

2:06:00

Twenty. Five years ago, he hasn't

2:06:03

changed that much as an article

2:06:05

here from sleep.com by Abraham Josephine

2:06:07

Reisman. Or. Resubmit? I'm not sure

2:06:09

the exact pronunciation. Excuse me? Quote.

2:06:13

It's too sick and disgusting. The

2:06:15

really? imagine. The. New

2:06:17

allegations against Vincent, Man of finally pushed

2:06:19

breath and hard to denounce him for

2:06:21

good. That's. The headline

2:06:23

what are you doing a that. Well,

2:06:26

that's Abbott Said. That's why I

2:06:28

say that bread didn't hear about.

2:06:31

Shit. Like this in the. Eighties

2:06:33

or nineties or we would have heard some

2:06:35

like this from breath before the go. It.

2:06:39

More. Just. it's a long article and it covers

2:06:41

a lot of the stuff we've talked about. Let me

2:06:43

I get again. Second, as sleep.com o me find some

2:06:45

of the quotes. I'm. Going to

2:06:47

speak my truth. I'm. Not

2:06:50

worried about Vince's feelings. He.

2:06:52

Never cared about mine. I

2:06:55

don't have any problem with everybody kicking his

2:06:57

head around the parking lot. I'm

2:06:59

okay with the truth coming out. That's it. That's

2:07:02

another one of those sports they have in Canada,

2:07:04

in addition to the curling. They.

2:07:06

Take decapitated heads and kick him around

2:07:08

a parking lot. And. With

2:07:11

scroll down a little more. According

2:07:13

to the filing, mcmahon coerce Grant in

2:07:15

the freeway such look into a freeway

2:07:17

sexual encounter during which Mad Man allegedly

2:07:20

desiccated on Grants Head and that. While

2:07:22

she was being raped by another man and

2:07:25

for sort of continue being assaulted for an

2:07:27

hour and a half. Before. A

2:07:29

wedding, her shower, It was

2:07:31

too much for hearts. Quote.

2:07:34

When. You get that vision in your head. You.

2:07:37

Go. That's. Messed up.

2:07:40

To second, Disgusting. The really? Imagine.

2:07:43

But. At the same time, the loot text messages

2:07:46

included in the suit. Allegedly sent

2:07:48

by Mcmahon after the incident. Have.

2:07:51

A convincingly familiar ring hard said.

2:07:54

What? They. Sound like

2:07:57

Vince. And.

2:08:00

quotes. And then a

2:08:02

little bit down here. I know.

2:08:04

Wait, wait, hold on. I

2:08:07

don't know in what context. Oh, I'm sure

2:08:09

Vince and Brett have texted each other because

2:08:12

you know, as we know, Vince,

2:08:14

in any way that he can contact you, he'll

2:08:16

master it. And I guess Brett's one of these

2:08:18

people is, ah, we got a text now, like

2:08:20

the young folks, but I

2:08:22

defy. Brett

2:08:25

Hart to come up with any text that Vince

2:08:27

McMahon ever sent him that approaches

2:08:29

any of those texts. Maybe

2:08:32

just the wordiness or the, the, the

2:08:35

lack of grammatical consistency maybe

2:08:37

was the, the tone of

2:08:39

Vince's texts. You know, it was,

2:08:41

I think it was one of them, it almost looked like one

2:08:43

of his attempts to, you know, the Vince mind

2:08:46

trick where he said something like awful that

2:08:49

he wanted her to do. And then he was like, holy

2:08:51

shit. Isn't this great? Like the

2:08:53

holy shit got him. That's

2:08:56

him. Let me go back to a

2:08:58

Brett here. Or, or, or

2:09:00

would he almost parenthetically added and

2:09:02

more on this truthful story I'm

2:09:04

telling you, I don't

2:09:07

think that this is the only incident of

2:09:09

this kind of predatory behavior, Hart said. I

2:09:12

think you'll find that it's everywhere

2:09:14

in WWE, but

2:09:17

he never spoke up. McMahon

2:09:19

was too fearsome at the time. Go

2:09:22

back to Brett here. It's kind of like

2:09:24

the Godfather. You never know

2:09:26

when a guy like Vince will be your enemy again

2:09:28

over something you say or do. Plus

2:09:32

it seemed like nothing could stop him anyway. Back

2:09:34

to Brett. He's the Teflon

2:09:37

guy. You just can't

2:09:39

seem to get anything on him. He's

2:09:41

just too powerful. Got

2:09:43

too much money. Let's

2:09:46

stop there. What do you think of that? That's kind

2:09:48

of what you were saying before, why people wouldn't say

2:09:51

anything. Yeah, but I believe he finally got some on

2:09:53

him. Um,

2:09:56

I think this is, this one's going to stick a

2:09:58

little while. I'm

2:10:00

you know what can we do with bread object

2:10:02

i didn't mean to laugh a minute ago we will

2:10:05

but that's that's messed up i mean what a a

2:10:08

classic canadian bread heart understatement

2:10:10

of an issue um

2:10:15

yeah you know think of

2:10:17

bread was one of the top guys

2:10:21

and then have he was in the class

2:10:23

that vince dealt with on a one-on-one basis

2:10:25

because we were talking last week on one

2:10:27

of these programs about what kind of relationship

2:10:29

does vince have with his top guys now

2:10:32

it apparently has changed and modified over

2:10:35

the years because and

2:10:37

as michael said jesus christ you

2:10:41

know the the the rumors amongst people

2:10:44

both jealous wrestlers and

2:10:47

bewildered fans as to why michaels

2:10:49

got vince put

2:10:51

up with so much shit from him well there must

2:10:53

be something going on between them well no

2:10:57

i'm sorry that wasn't happening and

2:11:00

as michael said he never

2:11:03

had problems getting women on his own

2:11:05

of all the problems he caused himself

2:11:07

and hadn't had self-inflicted wounds those were

2:11:09

not among them and i can knowing

2:11:13

shawn michaels of that era even

2:11:17

though vince was the boss he

2:11:20

always and we've talked about it there was some

2:11:23

element of him being the nerd wanting to

2:11:25

hang out with the cool kids why he

2:11:27

put up with that from the clique or

2:11:29

dx or whatever they've drawn him money yes

2:11:31

but also as the boys

2:11:33

club type of thing that appealed to vince because

2:11:35

he was on the outside looking in if

2:11:39

the 45 year old vince mcmahon

2:11:42

had suggested a three-way to

2:11:46

30 year old shawn michaels or whatever

2:11:48

it was michaels would have i

2:11:51

don't know whether you would have laughed first or

2:11:53

fucking his tongue would have dropped out of his

2:11:55

mouth but that night that

2:11:57

would not have been a situation that any of those guys i

2:11:59

don't think have performed in back in

2:12:01

those days with the principal in the fucking

2:12:03

room? I

2:12:06

don't know what's going on with Vince and Lauranitis

2:12:08

but Vince did not have

2:12:10

that relationship with the

2:12:12

Undertaker, I'll tell you that. All

2:12:15

right, well let's go back to Brett. But

2:12:18

more important was the love and respect

2:12:20

heart still held for so long. Without

2:12:23

McMahon, he had told me, I

2:12:27

wouldn't be the same man I am today.

2:12:30

McMahon made many of the best things in

2:12:32

his adult life possible. It

2:12:35

was an exploitative power, McMahon

2:12:40

held over everyone he built up in the

2:12:42

world he built. Now,

2:12:46

Hart sees McMahon facing the greatest threat

2:12:48

that a man who has built a

2:12:50

profitable reputation for sadism could

2:12:53

face. What?

2:12:56

Wait, what? He is

2:12:59

facing the greatest threat that a

2:13:01

man who has built a profitable

2:13:03

reputation for sadism can face. What?

2:13:08

Here's Brett Hart's quote, It's

2:13:10

like Jeffrey Dahmer, Harvey

2:13:12

Weinstein, or Jeffrey Epstein. Vince

2:13:15

will be a joke. He'll be

2:13:18

used for humor, and you'll shake your head

2:13:20

at the shock value of some jokes about it. What

2:13:23

did Vince McMahon do? He'll

2:13:25

always be associated with this story, especially

2:13:28

as it gets bigger and bigger and

2:13:30

bigger. And

2:13:33

these quotes from Brett are pretty fascinating. He's just right

2:13:35

away ready to say, yeah, fuck

2:13:38

Vince. That's why

2:13:40

I love Brett. Brett's

2:13:43

an upstanding kind of guy. He doesn't go in for

2:13:45

any of that that faller

2:13:47

all going on out there. But

2:13:49

I think the wording was a little flowery

2:13:52

about the man who's built his a profitable

2:13:55

industry of sadism or

2:13:58

whatever. This year

2:14:00

I always had respect for him. Now.

2:14:03

It's tainted. I'm embarrassed I

2:14:05

thought so highly of him. And

2:14:07

the I swear a lot of people fell but. The. Other

2:14:09

interesting thing here. Heart.

2:14:11

Is already tried to make amends for his past

2:14:14

police and Mcmahon. Throughout. His

2:14:16

time in W W S and for the

2:14:18

decades later. He. Heard the rumors

2:14:20

and accusations of sexual impropriety. Against

2:14:23

Mcmahon. And he generally

2:14:26

dismiss them. For. Example.

2:14:28

When. Debatably us first female referee.

2:14:31

Read. A Chatterton. Came forward

2:14:33

and ninety ninety two to it's use mcmahon

2:14:36

of raping her. Part.

2:14:38

Look for holes in her story. And.

2:14:41

Wrote it off. Even

2:14:43

going so far as the credit

2:14:45

her accusations in interviews. I.

2:14:47

Just didn't believe it. Heart told me. I

2:14:50

figured Vince had too much at stake to

2:14:52

ever do something like that. Even

2:14:55

after the Twenty Twenty Two revelations of

2:14:58

alleged hush money payments from Mcmahon. To.

2:15:00

Former employees became public. And.

2:15:03

He briefly resigned. Hearted.

2:15:05

Kept his mouth shut, Same.

2:15:08

When Mcmahon forced his way back into the

2:15:10

boardroom, And twenty twenty three. Despite.

2:15:14

The unresolved accusations. But.

2:15:17

A few months ago. After.

2:15:19

Hearing the advance rumblings of these

2:15:21

latest accusations. Heart. Ran

2:15:23

into Chatterton at a convention. I.

2:15:26

Apologize from the bottom of my heart.

2:15:29

Part. Recalled. And. I said

2:15:31

I believe that what happened to you. Happen

2:15:34

To you. And. I apologize

2:15:36

and I was wrong. Part.

2:15:39

Sounds genuinely remorseful when he tells

2:15:41

me these things. He. Already

2:15:43

lost his father. A

2:15:45

legendary wrestling promoter in his own right.

2:15:47

Twenty years ago. Now.

2:15:50

It's as though he has lost a mother.

2:15:53

And. The final quote here. I

2:15:55

think. Despite. All the issues

2:15:57

I ever had with Vince. I.

2:15:59

Know d. down I always respected him. But

2:16:02

now, knowing what kind

2:16:04

of weirdo he became, I have absolutely

2:16:09

zero respect for him. Hart

2:16:11

wrote to me in a text message after our conversation,

2:16:13

I do not think

2:16:15

I could ever shake his hand if he

2:16:17

extended it. Too creepy.

2:16:22

And there it is. You can read the whole article

2:16:24

at slate.com. Abraham

2:16:26

Josephine Reisman also wrote the

2:16:28

Vince McMahon biography.

2:16:30

Was it Ringmaster? Yes. So

2:16:34

they've been on the case of Vince McMahon for a

2:16:36

while. So this is someone with knowledge of what

2:16:39

happened back then, I would believe. I

2:16:41

was going to say when we were talking about our

2:16:44

friend Phil Mushnick earlier and the

2:16:46

promo that I cut on him, I think Brett's

2:16:49

the same thing. When

2:16:51

I promoed Phil Mushnick on that

2:16:53

Raw episode is because column he

2:16:55

had written after Brian Pillman died.

2:16:58

And he was not only he was

2:17:00

knocking Pillman but also he always knocked

2:17:03

the business itself. I wasn't defending Vince.

2:17:05

I didn't say

2:17:07

anything about Vince personally. I had

2:17:10

no problem at all cutting a promo on a

2:17:13

guy that was knocking the

2:17:15

wrestling business. I had done that throughout

2:17:18

my life and would continue to. And

2:17:21

I think Brett here is not only a gassed,

2:17:26

upset, unsavory

2:17:32

the details but also he's

2:17:34

upset at how Vince has made

2:17:36

the business

2:17:39

look and how he has

2:17:41

disgraced that and given

2:17:43

all these people who never liked it to

2:17:45

begin with the

2:17:48

excuse and opportunity to slander

2:17:51

the whole wrestling business and everybody that's been

2:17:53

in it because this one fucking guy does

2:17:55

this shit. And

2:17:57

I say because talking about

2:17:59

used to having respect for Vince McMahon, I've

2:18:01

mentioned this. Whether

2:18:04

it was the boys or whether it was TV

2:18:06

people or whether it was anybody, when Vince of

2:18:08

old came into

2:18:10

the room, he's tall,

2:18:12

he's got the suits, he's got

2:18:14

the presence, the personal magnetism

2:18:19

that you know this is somebody, he's

2:18:21

important. He had that

2:18:23

voice and you would, it's like

2:18:26

the principal was in the room or there's some

2:18:28

authority figure, you're on your best behavior, mind your

2:18:30

P's and Q's as Mama Cornette used to say.

2:18:34

And then to find out that he's a dribbling,

2:18:37

disgusting, perverted old man that

2:18:39

not only that

2:18:41

but he's stupid about it. I

2:18:43

said, I can't believe he was this stupid. Brett said,

2:18:46

how could he be this stupid? You

2:18:48

find this guy that you had respect

2:18:51

for even if he had fucked you around

2:18:53

personally or fucked you around business wise. You

2:18:56

could say, look at him, he's

2:18:58

got his shit together and now

2:19:01

he's a blithering idiot

2:19:03

that has destroyed his own

2:19:05

reputation and cost himself

2:19:09

however many millions and millions and millions of

2:19:11

dollars over this behavior. Even

2:19:16

if nothing else, that's a departure,

2:19:18

that's a shock, that's a transition

2:19:20

from the guy

2:19:22

that we all knew even if he was a

2:19:24

crazy billionaire he was still, you didn't think

2:19:27

he's a complete fucking buffoon. I

2:19:31

mean that's one of your points and that has

2:19:33

been. You know, he never thought he would be

2:19:35

this stupid on top of everything else. But

2:19:39

again, maybe he reverted back to what he's always

2:19:42

been. Let's

2:19:44

move on from the Brett

2:19:46

Hart Vince McMillan, really the Vince McMahon

2:19:49

update today. We'll have more Vince McMahon

2:19:51

on the drive-thru that we're returning to

2:19:53

that we're recording tomorrow. No,

2:19:55

this is the drive-thru. We're recording the

2:19:57

experience. I don't know where. And he

2:19:59

sold it. His condo, by the way,

2:20:01

in 2023, I guess the trips

2:20:03

through the lobby were getting awkward. And

2:20:07

it was Linda's condo too, apparently. Yes,

2:20:09

they owned it as a couple and they

2:20:12

sold it for like what, under 2 million

2:20:14

when they had paid like 4 million and

2:20:16

wanted originally 4 million, but he took half

2:20:20

of that to get out of there apparently. Well,

2:20:22

more about Vince and his

2:20:25

sick weirdo behavior, as Bret Hart put it

2:20:27

later on. Jim,

2:20:29

a few interesting things we'll talk

2:20:32

about here before we wrap things up. Executive

2:20:34

moves that happened this past week. Let's

2:20:37

start with the first one. It's

2:20:39

a bad week to be the president of a wrestling

2:20:41

company, isn't it? It's been a little

2:20:43

bit of a run where, you know, Vince

2:20:46

McMahon and now these moves, like

2:20:48

the head, I mean, Tony Khan better watch out. But

2:20:51

the news this past week, and I know we

2:20:53

don't follow stardom in Japanese women's wrestling that closely,

2:20:56

but this is really fascinating. Rossi

2:20:58

Ogawa, who was the founder

2:21:01

of stardom, made a

2:21:03

lot of money selling stardom to Bushy Road, which

2:21:05

owns New Japan, but was still running it

2:21:07

and the head of creative, was

2:21:11

released, was fired, even

2:21:14

though he was apparently already intending on leaving.

2:21:17

And the reason that went around was for

2:21:19

poaching talent. And people

2:21:22

didn't know if that meant for WWE, because

2:21:24

of the rumors of their big star Julia

2:21:26

going to WWE, and she's close with Ogawa.

2:21:30

For him starting his own promotion, which

2:21:33

I guess just by

2:21:35

its existence would be opposition to

2:21:37

the biggest women's company in Japan,

2:21:40

have you been following any of this? Well,

2:21:42

I didn't follow. I've caught up

2:21:45

with it. After the news broke

2:21:47

that they canned the guy and

2:21:49

all of the wrestlers apparently were upset,

2:21:51

but this does not sound good. Here's

2:21:53

the deal, is

2:21:56

not only did this guy start the company,

2:21:58

apparently he's been the one. the guru

2:22:00

of women's wrestling in Japan for however

2:22:02

many years for whatever you think of

2:22:04

that position. But he started

2:22:07

this company and then he sold it

2:22:09

to Bushy Road which as you mentioned

2:22:11

owns New Japan. This was several years

2:22:13

ago and they've made

2:22:16

it even bigger and put money into it and

2:22:18

now I think it grosses like ten million dollars

2:22:20

a year. No wonder

2:22:23

Uncle Dave is all wrapped up in this. But

2:22:26

now they found out that

2:22:29

he's pissed off because they won't

2:22:31

let him... he's the Booker still but they've

2:22:33

been overruling him. And

2:22:35

we don't know, we don't have a dog in the

2:22:37

hunt. We don't know whose side to take because is

2:22:40

it a case of

2:22:42

people who work at a

2:22:44

business office that we've experienced

2:22:46

before, the gym herds of the world

2:22:48

trying to impress on the wrestling people

2:22:50

that they know something about wrestling and

2:22:53

telling them to do stupid shit or is it

2:22:56

Rossi O'Gowas an indie wrestling mark promoter

2:22:58

like Tony Khan and wants to do

2:23:00

stupid shit even though now he's running

2:23:03

a big business. We

2:23:05

don't know which side it is but

2:23:08

they've been overruling him on his booking

2:23:12

and he decided since he was

2:23:14

independently wealthy from

2:23:16

the money he made selling this

2:23:18

outlaw girl wrestling company to this

2:23:20

big conglomerate that he's

2:23:22

gonna start his own company that he can book

2:23:24

without interference and use his own money. And

2:23:28

they found out about it and

2:23:31

they knew he was gonna leave and they

2:23:33

agreed apparently to

2:23:36

an end date sometime in February and then

2:23:38

a couple weeks before that they went ahead

2:23:40

and fired him and said, fuck it he's

2:23:42

gone he's been trying to poach our talent

2:23:44

after he was already gonna leave anyway. And

2:23:48

a lot of the wrestlers who know him are up

2:23:50

in an uproar about it and

2:23:52

they've installed some

2:23:55

non-wrestling executive person

2:23:58

to replace him. And

2:24:01

that always works. So,

2:24:04

have they all shit the bed over there?

2:24:08

It's a fascinating series of events. We

2:24:11

also have to figure out what exactly is poaching, because

2:24:13

is poaching as simple as, I'm

2:24:15

leaving soon. Where are you going? I'm going to

2:24:17

start my own company. Oh, can I

2:24:19

work for you? Like, is that poaching? Because

2:24:22

apparently a lot of the women there, if not

2:24:24

the vast majority, only have

2:24:27

one-year contracts. It's

2:24:29

not like here, where you get five-year deals now.

2:24:32

One-year deals that you have to renew every

2:24:34

year. It's easy to do that when you

2:24:36

have no competition. That's

2:24:38

one thing you have to look at. Do

2:24:41

they think Rossy Ogawa is opening

2:24:43

the door to kind of be a feeder system to

2:24:46

WWE? Because a lot of

2:24:48

women have come out of stardom and gone there. That's

2:24:51

another thing, especially with Julia now

2:24:53

saying, everyone, assuming Julia is going

2:24:56

to WWE. Well, and

2:24:58

Tony Khan hopped on Twitter to

2:25:00

rub whatever mess there

2:25:03

is in old Rossy's face. So

2:25:08

apparently they didn't like each other. Yeah, hold on.

2:25:10

I actually saved something to read you about that

2:25:12

because I started laughing. It was in the Observer.

2:25:15

No wonder you were laughing. However,

2:25:18

there was hope from an AEW standpoint

2:25:20

that things would be easier working with

2:25:22

Bushy Road without Ogawa there. AEW

2:25:25

does have hopes of working with stardom more

2:25:27

extensively this year, as well

2:25:29

as with New Japan and CMLL. And

2:25:32

the belief is that internally, they

2:25:35

feel this makes it easier. They

2:25:37

scroll down a little bit. After

2:25:40

Tony Khan's tweets, another

2:25:42

person close to the situation in stardom said,

2:25:45

you have no idea how upset wrestlers

2:25:47

and media are about Tony sticking it

2:25:49

to Rossy. So

2:25:51

now he's upset the wrestlers in stardom and

2:25:54

the Japanese media for whatever that's worth. In

2:25:57

2019, before AEW, W.E.W.

2:26:00

became a full-time promotion, Kenny

2:26:03

Omega asked Mayu Iwatani

2:26:05

to join the company. Ogawa

2:26:08

found out it wasn't happy since

2:26:10

Iwatani was one of his top stars

2:26:12

and he was in the process of selling the company

2:26:15

to Bushy Road and Iwatani

2:26:17

was their biggest established star after

2:26:19

E.O. Shirai, Tony Storm,

2:26:22

and Kyrie Sane had gone to WWE.

2:26:26

So as he's trying to sell the company, Kenny

2:26:28

Omega was trying to sign for

2:26:30

AEW his biggest star is what it says.

2:26:33

But now here's the thing, listen to

2:26:35

this now, if Rossi Ogawa started

2:26:38

the whole company and starred him and

2:26:40

then built it up where he sold

2:26:43

it to the conglomerate and now it's

2:26:45

doing big business, it's

2:26:47

making all this money, it's doing better than

2:26:49

it ever has and he became independently wealthy

2:26:51

for the sale of the company to the

2:26:53

conglomerate that he still allegedly was supposed to

2:26:55

be running. But

2:26:57

now because he's being overruled

2:26:59

on some of his decisions, he

2:27:02

wants to take the money that he made selling

2:27:05

the first company to the conglomerate and

2:27:07

start his own company so he can

2:27:09

book it the way he wants to

2:27:11

but what is the talent's reason to

2:27:14

go with him? Because

2:27:16

usually when that happens, when a guy

2:27:19

wants to split off and start his own

2:27:21

company, everybody of me, the business is down,

2:27:23

everybody's disgruntled, nobody's making any money.

2:27:27

It's all the shits, this company that says now

2:27:29

is making $10 million a year over there in

2:27:33

Japan and I would

2:27:35

assume these young ladies are making more money

2:27:37

so if he already found

2:27:39

the conglomerate to sell it to, then if

2:27:43

he starts another company, it's

2:27:46

going to automatically be the second largest

2:27:48

women's wrestling company in the country because

2:27:50

this is the biggest and

2:27:54

is he going to use his own money to

2:27:56

pay these women as much money as this conglomerate

2:27:58

would pay them? And

2:28:00

how is the number two company starting

2:28:03

from scratch going

2:28:05

to compete against the established

2:28:09

existing number one company with all this

2:28:11

finance behind it etc. So

2:28:13

what is the talent's reason to follow

2:28:16

him past they like him and he did

2:28:19

a great job building the company up to sell it

2:28:21

the first time? Where is he gonna

2:28:23

find another angel? I

2:28:26

don't know but going back to what Dave

2:28:28

wrote about the relationship between AEW and him

2:28:30

because again the Tony Khan

2:28:34

tantrum about this got a lot of attention but

2:28:36

that was what Tony Khan wanted he wanted people

2:28:38

to see this. Ogawa

2:28:41

and Omega did work together

2:28:44

eventually and Rio was

2:28:46

used regularly by stardom while

2:28:48

under contract to AEW but

2:28:51

part of the deal from Omega

2:28:53

and Khan was that she

2:28:55

not lose in Japan. Oh good

2:28:58

lord. Ogawa agreed to it. Oh good

2:29:00

lord wait a minute. Tony

2:29:03

Khan actually thought enough

2:29:05

of that minute bucktooth

2:29:07

flousy little girl to

2:29:10

say well oh

2:29:13

my god no she can't lose a

2:29:15

match in Japan while she's on my

2:29:17

TV in the United States. What

2:29:20

the fuck is he thinking? Ogawa

2:29:23

agreed to it and

2:29:25

put the high-speed title on her and

2:29:28

when it was time for her to lose

2:29:30

they made it a three-way so she

2:29:32

could lose the title without being pinned.

2:29:34

Oh good lord. Although in time stardom

2:29:37

felt hamstrung by that and

2:29:40

Rio's tenure with stardom ended.

2:29:43

And there was rioting in the streets

2:29:45

when when they announced oh no more Rio.

2:29:47

Why did they not want to work with

2:29:49

AEW anymore because they sent over Rio and

2:29:51

said you have to book her like Hulk

2:29:53

Hogan. That may have

2:29:55

something to do with it. Oh

2:29:59

Good Lord. The. So.

2:30:01

Anyway, now we gotta wait and find out whether

2:30:03

all of the. All.

2:30:05

The wrestlers engage in a revolt

2:30:07

and leaves stardom and go to

2:30:09

Rossi and he does the whole

2:30:11

thing all over again. And.

2:30:14

In the meantime, hopefully this means

2:30:16

that we will see less outlaw

2:30:18

Japanese female talent in a w

2:30:20

than we've ad in the past.

2:30:24

Your. They'll all be tied up with her own business

2:30:26

over there. Such. A thing

2:30:28

to to think that in a we talk about

2:30:30

the women's division our issues with it. There's a

2:30:32

chance than a promoter over there of a bit

2:30:35

as Japanese Women's. Wrestling Company or the

2:30:37

Book I guess Now. He agrees

2:30:39

it has one is women on a Wt reserves

2:30:41

and will be used. As. At something

2:30:43

isn't. Around maybe got more

2:30:45

sense of we get credit for. Will.

2:30:48

Gym a nother Executive. Play.

2:30:50

Musical Chairs and seeing the same

2:30:52

tune. Independently. Wealthy trying

2:30:54

to put together a deal for his

2:30:56

own thing. One. Of the by the

2:30:59

company. Lots of stories around there bud. Big.

2:31:01

Scott Dumb or. Has.

2:31:03

Been fired from a a Double.

2:31:05

He wishes. Fire from

2:31:07

Cnn. impact. Or. Impact

2:31:09

or T and A whatever it officially is

2:31:12

at this moment. They.

2:31:14

Have parted ways with. The. Man a

2:31:16

lot of people think is responsible. For.

2:31:19

The. Resurgence of. See. It

2:31:21

as. A for the last few

2:31:23

years. Will end and we laugh.

2:31:26

But look how shitty it was. It

2:31:28

has apparently gotten better because it couldn't

2:31:30

hardly get much worse. But. At.

2:31:32

The again this is another is the same

2:31:34

say was goddamn more and rio you know

2:31:36

where they have a couple a thing that

2:31:38

they get ideas from each other. The story

2:31:40

now is out of the blue. Outta.

2:31:43

Nowhere. Scarred.

2:31:45

The more they announced the and some.

2:31:48

People. In Canada their. Anthem.

2:31:51

Is the name of their big

2:31:53

Overlord company. The. Ass. There's a

2:31:55

yeah The yeah spurs their the owner

2:31:57

the and they have aspirations their the

2:31:59

own. owners of Access TV

2:32:01

and TNA Impact Wrestling and

2:32:04

the Fight Network and I don't

2:32:07

know a couple of buggy whip factories, whatever

2:32:09

big business, the curling, the curling

2:32:11

industry owes a lot to the Aspers. I'm

2:32:13

pretty sure up there. But

2:32:16

anyway, out of the blue, they say, Scott

2:32:19

DeBore is done. He's no longer with

2:32:21

us. And he's

2:32:23

being replaced by some unknown

2:32:26

civilian that works

2:32:28

for the men executive and first

2:32:32

of all, when they put, it's

2:32:34

automatically a reason for mass

2:32:36

panic because every time that

2:32:40

a real world executive is put in

2:32:42

charge of a wrestling company, shit goes

2:32:44

south fairly quickly because they don't know

2:32:46

what they're doing. They don't know how to speak the language. They don't know

2:32:48

how to deal with the people. It's

2:32:50

always a disaster. But

2:32:53

in this case, they

2:32:55

not only are doing

2:32:58

that, but also they've done it when

2:33:00

we haven't been

2:33:02

watching them because I gave up on

2:33:04

the thing quite a while back when

2:33:07

they were doing murder mysteries and

2:33:09

putting people in other dimensions and then bringing

2:33:12

the dead back to life or whatever the

2:33:14

fuck. We're all right. And they got so

2:33:16

far off the radar that

2:33:18

who gives a shit and we can only, we only got so much time.

2:33:21

But everybody that watches the thing has

2:33:23

said, well, their shows have been better.

2:33:27

And we laughed at him for changing the name, but

2:33:29

apparently impact it sucks

2:33:31

so bad that TNA was the nostalgic

2:33:33

thing that they liked better, even

2:33:36

though they made fun of it at the time. So

2:33:39

they've been doing better shows. Their business has

2:33:41

been picking up. Do

2:33:43

more, you know, for whatever else

2:33:45

you can say, he's been dedicated to this

2:33:47

thing. Everybody says, oh, he he's fucking worked

2:33:49

his ass off and he's tried

2:33:52

to do whatever he can do to rebuild this more

2:33:54

abundant enterprise after the Carter

2:33:57

era and all the other shit that went on.

2:34:01

And then they just fire him. And then when they have

2:34:03

a call with the

2:34:05

talent or whatever the Zoom thing or

2:34:07

whatever they did, they

2:34:10

led by lying saying that Scott had

2:34:12

stepped down when everybody knew

2:34:14

that that was not the truth that

2:34:16

they'd fired him. They

2:34:19

should have led with, Demore, no more.

2:34:23

Demore has been demoralized. But

2:34:28

basically, it's the same situation that we're

2:34:30

kind of starting to hear now that

2:34:33

Demore had been upset because he was doing

2:34:35

these things and that thing and the other

2:34:37

thing, but he couldn't get a bigger budget.

2:34:39

He couldn't get them to hire certain people.

2:34:42

He was getting overruled on things and he

2:34:44

had made an offer to try

2:34:47

to buy the company

2:34:50

from the anthem. And

2:34:55

I don't know whether this is known.

2:34:57

I think Demore's family, since I was

2:34:59

working down there, has been involved in

2:35:01

a big construction company. Construction, that's right.

2:35:03

He's a big shot on the construction

2:35:05

side I hear. Yes.

2:35:09

And so that's what, you know, he's in

2:35:11

the past, he's done that in some cases

2:35:13

when he decided, oh, I'm going to stay

2:35:15

away from wrestling. He's worked his family's business.

2:35:18

They've got money,

2:35:20

but they wouldn't even deal with

2:35:23

him on making an offer or whatever, trying

2:35:25

to sell him the company. And

2:35:28

then they just, you know, basically I

2:35:30

guess it got to the point where they

2:35:32

couldn't live together anymore and they had to decide

2:35:35

to... The rumor that went around wasn't even about his

2:35:37

family's money. I think the rumor that went around was

2:35:39

he had a note from a bank. Well,

2:35:42

yes. I mean, he has money. His family

2:35:44

has started a business. I'm sure he's got

2:35:46

a significant portion of that business. I'm not

2:35:48

saying he's like Tony Khan

2:35:50

and using his dad's allowance or whatever. I'm

2:35:53

saying that, yes, they

2:35:55

have other business besides wrestling and the

2:35:57

DeMore family and Scott could potentially afford

2:35:59

this. He had a letter of

2:36:01

credit from a bank, he had some way

2:36:03

of proving that he had backing or whatever, they wouldn't

2:36:05

talk to him about it. But

2:36:10

now they're trying to paint

2:36:13

the move as positive from the Anthem

2:36:15

side and that they've decided to take

2:36:18

the company and

2:36:20

completely integrate it into

2:36:22

all the other Anthem businesses. That

2:36:25

means they weren't doing that till now.

2:36:28

What kind of fucking morons are you?

2:36:31

If you've got one business

2:36:34

that you own wholeheartedly outright

2:36:36

and you have other businesses that

2:36:38

could help give that

2:36:41

business publicity or

2:36:44

help it in any way, shape, or form,

2:36:47

establish or expand its business, wouldn't you

2:36:49

work together on those things if you

2:36:52

own them all? So

2:36:55

there is saying by now making this

2:36:57

change to do all of this

2:36:59

good stuff we're going to do to make impact bigger, we

2:37:01

reveal that we've just figured out we've owned this thing

2:37:03

for about six years and we could have done this the

2:37:05

whole time. What? What did you

2:37:09

make of that explanation? I

2:37:12

think something about this whole thing smells

2:37:14

funny and hopefully, thank you Scott, which

2:37:16

was trending briefly, ages better

2:37:18

than thank you Vince did. Because

2:37:21

the reason we're being given makes no sense.

2:37:24

Apparently, the more new things we're going to change

2:37:26

so he made an offer to buy the company. When

2:37:29

you don't want to sell something, it's kind of weird when all of a

2:37:32

sudden someone comes up to you like, I'm ready to buy it. That's

2:37:34

a little weird. The timing of

2:37:37

this is weird considering not

2:37:39

only they rebranded as TNA, but he's been front

2:37:41

and center as the biggest cheerleader. For

2:37:44

good reason, he's the executive, but really

2:37:46

out there doing interviews,

2:37:49

talking about it. I saw

2:37:51

a promo we did in the ring, have

2:37:53

to say, was very passionate. So

2:37:56

all of a sudden he's gone. They

2:37:59

give conflicting reasons. about

2:38:01

to why he's gone. He stepped down, he

2:38:06

was asked to leave. And besides that, this whole

2:38:08

idea of okay, the reason for this is we're

2:38:11

putting this other executive from a place, another

2:38:14

department in Anthem in charge of the company,

2:38:16

so that he can make sure that all

2:38:19

of our companies are working together to fully

2:38:21

promote TNA wrestling

2:38:23

and integrate

2:38:26

their stars on our other

2:38:28

television programs and other genres.

2:38:32

Great! What does that have to do

2:38:34

with Scott DeMoure, the experienced guy that's

2:38:36

got it this far continuing to run

2:38:38

the company while you integrate their

2:38:41

product into all your other...

2:38:44

It's like oh, we could

2:38:46

have done this all along but goddamn DeMoure

2:38:48

was running the thing. What? That

2:38:50

does not make sense. The way this was

2:38:52

all done, and based on

2:38:54

various things in the past that were

2:38:56

talked about, you have to wonder

2:38:58

if maybe there's anything else going on behind this

2:39:00

that all of a sudden right now

2:39:03

where they have a working

2:39:05

relationship with WWE which may be more important than everything

2:39:07

else they have going on, they

2:39:10

got one of their champions on the Royal Rumble

2:39:12

and Sheila Gooden there. They didn't just dump

2:39:14

her out right away. They

2:39:16

talked about her being in the other company. So

2:39:19

there's something going on there. For

2:39:21

right now, for Scott DeMoure to be

2:39:23

pushed out, it has

2:39:25

to be more than he just... He

2:39:28

was frustrated so he wanted to buy the

2:39:30

company so they fired him. That

2:39:34

doesn't make too much fucking sense. Well

2:39:36

maybe they confused him with Rossy O'Gawa. He wanted

2:39:38

them to have a bigger budget so he said,

2:39:40

I'm going to give you money. I want to

2:39:43

buy the company. They said, we don't want to

2:39:45

do that. And he said, okay, I'll

2:39:47

go back to work. And they said, you're fired. Yes.

2:39:50

That's a natural progression of events right there.

2:39:52

I can't see it happening any other way.

2:39:54

Has Scott DeMoure said anything? I

2:39:57

guess he hasn't. I haven't seen a quote from... I

2:39:59

haven't. I. Have not

2:40:01

heard of any statement but what to

2:40:03

find? Army Giddy. With. A fire

2:40:06

they say step down to they force in the

2:40:08

sauna resignation for one reason or another. That's.

2:40:10

One of the things we have to find out

2:40:12

and were know that this the story that I

2:40:15

was hearing is that again you know they knew

2:40:17

that it was his, both sides knew that it

2:40:19

was coming, that they were coming to an impasse

2:40:21

at it was just a case of. Not.

2:40:24

Sure when it was going to be announced the

2:40:26

public within as soon as. It

2:40:28

was announced it's a dumb or is done

2:40:30

via nor do more Step down on that

2:40:32

To the talent. And. That was

2:40:34

not the way was phrased initially. And

2:40:37

they were trying to soften the blow. And lot

2:40:39

of people are pissed off because again, Unnamed

2:40:43

executives. Who. Have never been

2:40:45

in charge of. Anything meaningful involving

2:40:47

wrestling are now in charge of all these

2:40:49

people's fucking futures While gets worse. According to

2:40:52

the Observer, nothing was said about Creative,

2:40:54

but there was a belief that Tommy Dreamer,

2:40:56

who was second in command, would be in

2:40:58

charge. But. Neither he nor

2:41:00

anyone else was told that. Dream.

2:41:03

Or Gail Kim and Rd Evans where

2:41:05

the key people with the more on

2:41:08

the creative end. And

2:41:10

when I got wet. When when learn I just

2:41:12

got mad at me one time in the summer

2:41:14

of, oh five before the big blow up. They.

2:41:17

Put dreamer in charge of o Debbie

2:41:19

booking for about four weeks before I

2:41:21

came back about zebra it out and.

2:41:24

My. God it almost put us all out

2:41:26

of business. Nobody knew what to favor. the boy

2:41:28

Betty Davis it was. I a steady as of

2:41:30

what the fuck is going on with his Tv

2:41:33

I said i don't know. Tommy.

2:41:35

Learned all the of. The bad

2:41:38

Habits from a Heyman. Shoot.

2:41:40

Everything. Have it in your mind

2:41:42

and will do extensive post production.

2:41:45

The. Only problem is Heyman was the only one because that

2:41:47

a large bowl was here that had enough room in

2:41:49

his mind to have all that his mind. Will.

2:41:52

Back to this got the more gone from t

2:41:54

name again. as we just said notches the person

2:41:56

running up and head of Creative. so

2:42:00

Whatever this move is, it's something

2:42:03

that definitely changes the dynamic of everything

2:42:05

there. I remember Dutch Mantell

2:42:07

calls me on the phone about two months after

2:42:09

I joined TNA in 2006. And

2:42:13

that's when Demore had been on the

2:42:15

creative team before with, I

2:42:18

think, Jeremy Borash and out

2:42:20

on two or three people along with Dutch Mantell

2:42:23

and Jeff Jarrett. And

2:42:25

Dutch opened the call with, well, Dixie

2:42:28

just fired everybody on the creative team

2:42:31

except me and Jeff. I said, well,

2:42:33

that's a good start because

2:42:36

there needed to be fewer instead of more. And

2:42:39

then he said, and she just

2:42:41

hired Vince Russo. And I said, well,

2:42:44

I quit. And

2:42:46

then that began that whole thing. But so

2:42:48

we've kind of told that story, but we've

2:42:50

glossed over the reason why. As

2:42:53

I was told, as I recall, that they

2:42:55

fired everybody else besides Dutch and Jeff on

2:42:57

the creative team. And

2:43:00

Scott Demore led that

2:43:02

crew that was fired is because they caught Demore

2:43:04

trying to take the company over from him. This

2:43:07

was 2006. Really?

2:43:09

I don't know about that. Yes. Somewhere

2:43:11

or another, either

2:43:13

Demore was trying to go behind Jeff's

2:43:15

back to Dixie or

2:43:19

Badmau, whatever the fuck, but he wanted to run the

2:43:21

fucking thing then. It's almost 20 years ago. And

2:43:26

then a year later, they brought him back, I

2:43:28

guess, maybe not a year, maybe about a year.

2:43:30

I don't know. The aficionados of the company can

2:43:32

look up that timeline. And I just said,

2:43:35

well, why did they bring it? Demore back.

2:43:37

We tried to steal the company. He

2:43:39

promised he wouldn't do it anymore. Oh,

2:43:41

my God. Bob Loop. More like

2:43:44

Ronnie Gossett. Ronnie

2:43:47

Gossett sold Nick's territory and ended up working

2:43:49

for Jerry Jarrett years later. He promised he

2:43:51

wouldn't sell mine. What do you think? I

2:43:54

mean, what do you think he'll do with this big budget he has to

2:43:56

buy a company? Will he buy the NW-1? you

2:44:00

a will you buy a women

2:44:02

of wrestling? Well, there's nothing

2:44:05

worth buying because

2:44:08

everything that, that exists

2:44:10

is where it is.

2:44:12

You couldn't, if you bought

2:44:14

WCW thing though, like WCW was being sold,

2:44:16

but you needed the TV. If the

2:44:19

company that owns TNA is the company

2:44:21

airing TNA, what are you really buying

2:44:23

the archive? Oh,

2:44:25

you're not buying it at the TV spot. You

2:44:28

buy an opportunity, son. You're

2:44:31

buying opera, the opportunity to go out there and

2:44:33

build a whole thing all over again and get

2:44:35

it on something else. I mean, maybe the deal

2:44:37

with I'll buy the company, just air it and

2:44:40

I'll buy the thing and do everything

2:44:43

who knows, but

2:44:45

there is no wrestling promotion in

2:44:47

the world right now available to

2:44:49

be bought that's worth buying. Nobody's

2:44:53

going to buy the WWE

2:44:55

and it's the only one that's worth anything. AEW,

2:44:59

my God, if

2:45:01

anybody was to buy it, you'd

2:45:03

have to take over the ridiculous

2:45:06

fucking talent roster and the overpaid

2:45:08

talent and the plethora of contracts

2:45:10

and the, the,

2:45:12

you know, ridiculous arena contracts that

2:45:14

have been signed where you're running

2:45:17

arenas that seat 20,000 for 2000 people and the massive overspending

2:45:22

in every element of

2:45:24

the fucking company and

2:45:26

you'd never make your money back

2:45:28

and the reputation that here's the

2:45:31

number two company that draws the same amount

2:45:34

of people every week on TV in, you

2:45:36

know, and one show does good,

2:45:38

the other show does, and the other shows rotten.

2:45:41

What are you buying? If you buy impact right now,

2:45:47

that's the thing that you just said, unless the

2:45:49

company that owns it now sells it to you

2:45:51

and still airs the TV, you're buying a fucking

2:45:54

wrestling promotion with no television. Ring

2:45:57

of honor. part

2:46:00

of Tony Khan's collection. He's

2:46:03

got it in his memorabilia room and he

2:46:05

puts it out on YouTube every once in

2:46:07

a while. It doesn't really exist. So that's

2:46:09

not worth anything. Global force wrestling. It's

2:46:12

it's gone. And,

2:46:15

and, and they, they fucking erased the

2:46:18

tapes. That

2:46:20

was real fucking ill will on their part.

2:46:24

What other wrestling promotion exists today

2:46:26

that anybody could buy and do

2:46:28

anything differently with it than what

2:46:30

is being done now? Well,

2:46:34

we'll see what happens. It's got to know that was

2:46:36

a question. Is there's no answer of one. I can't

2:46:38

think of one of any value. No. Anybody

2:46:41

buys one right now. What are, even if they've

2:46:43

got unlimited money, what are they going to do

2:46:45

with it? In the first two

2:46:47

years, it's going to make it any different

2:46:49

than what's gone on. So you use

2:46:51

the, if you are insistent on being in wrestling, use

2:46:54

that money and start a promotion. Don't buy anything because

2:46:56

you have a better chance with the low overhead. Start

2:46:59

your own. And what

2:47:01

the fuck difference is it going to make? You probably ain't

2:47:03

going to get anywhere anyway, but at

2:47:05

least you wouldn't be just paying

2:47:07

however many million dollars for something

2:47:09

that's flop so far already. Well,

2:47:13

as we said before, the more, no more, but

2:47:15

I'm sure you can find them riding around a

2:47:17

tractor like a big boy on the construction site.

2:47:20

Jim, let's get at least one

2:47:22

more thing before we get out of here on the

2:47:24

experience. We're going to talk dynamite and

2:47:27

all the Vince McMahon resignation news and

2:47:30

John Lornitis and Ashley Masaro

2:47:32

and just

2:47:34

one thing after. And Billy Jack.

2:47:37

Well, Billy Jack. Let's tell the people

2:47:39

right now. You can talk about that now.

2:47:41

Let's get that done. Well, let's, but let's

2:47:43

also tell the people what you had no

2:47:46

fucking earthly clue of what I was talking

2:47:48

about. Billy Jack, 110 Soldier,

2:47:52

hit song, 1971 top 40, the group coven. You

2:47:58

God damn you didn't know what I was singing. On

2:48:01

the bloody morning after,

2:48:03

one tin soldier rides

2:48:05

away. Ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,

2:48:07

ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,

2:48:09

ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,

2:48:11

ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da, ta-da,

2:48:13

ta-da. Though

2:48:16

the people of the mountain sent

2:48:18

the message down the hill of

2:48:21

the gold that's buried wherever in our valley

2:48:23

we will share, I can't remember the words,

2:48:25

but it's 50 years ago, but it was

2:48:27

a goddamn hit song. You've never heard that

2:48:29

song. It's weird that it's

2:48:31

one person singing, but you sound like two

2:48:34

insects being multi-tracked. Uh, no, I'm-

2:48:36

There was harmony on the song. There's some crap

2:48:38

shit that was released too that didn't really survive

2:48:41

to today that people don't like rave about, so

2:48:43

I'll check it out sometime, but- That

2:48:45

was an incredible movie with a hit

2:48:47

theme song that potentially

2:48:49

was- And I think it did

2:48:52

well in the Oscar running as

2:48:54

well, and it was

2:48:56

the year before there's

2:48:58

got to be a morning after from the

2:49:01

Poseidon Adventure. There's

2:49:03

got to be a morning after. Oh, stop. Come

2:49:05

on. Come on. Come on. There's

2:49:08

only so much time. See, on the bloody morning

2:49:10

after, then there's got to be a morning after.

2:49:14

It was a whole series in the Oscars

2:49:16

in the early 70s about morning afters. They

2:49:18

even named a pill after it, but the

2:49:20

bloody morning after, and then there's got to

2:49:23

be a morning after, and- I

2:49:26

feel like there's a disconnect. Well,

2:49:28

see? Because you haven't heard that song. Billy Jack

2:49:31

Haynes- Look it up. All right, well, let's talk

2:49:33

about the Billy Jack in wrestling, who of course

2:49:35

took the name Billy Jack and the gimmick and

2:49:37

the hat and everything from the movie- Yes. Out

2:49:40

of the Pacific Northwest, out of Portland, Oregon, in

2:49:43

the early 80s. One

2:49:46

of those guys that was on the cover of a bunch

2:49:48

of magazines before he even did anything. And

2:49:51

then what he did didn't go to where I think a lot

2:49:53

of people thought it would have. And

2:49:55

now the word out, and I don't know if it's

2:49:57

official or not, but- Report.

2:50:00

importantly, Billy Jack Haynes murdered

2:50:03

his wife this past week and

2:50:06

was arrested either in

2:50:08

Portland or just outside of it. What

2:50:12

do you know about all this? And let's talk a little bit

2:50:14

about someone who the older he

2:50:16

got, the wilder a personality he

2:50:18

became, Billy Jack Haynes. Well,

2:50:20

apparently it is legitimate because some of

2:50:22

the inside

2:50:24

wrestling folks over there in

2:50:27

the Pacific Northwest have said because the

2:50:29

news at first said an ex-pro wrestler

2:50:33

has been arrested after a standoff.

2:50:37

Apparently people heard gunshots, a gunshot

2:50:39

or gunshots coming from the house,

2:50:42

house in a quiet neighborhood

2:50:44

somewhere outside of,

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