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Hello again, friends! And

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you are our friends, and welcome back to

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another edition of Jim Cornette's drive-through right here

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on another day. I'm

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cranky today. It is 70

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degrees outside and sunny, and

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I'm here recording with you. It is still winter

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as we are recording. I'm

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your host, the great Brian Last. It's a pleasure

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to be here with this man, the leader of

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the Cult of Cornette, the man who gets

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us in all the trouble. If I

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only had time, Mr. Jim

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Cornette. I'm gonna see your

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70 degrees, Brian Last, and

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I'm gonna raise you 5 degrees

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because it is 75 blistering

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degrees here in Louisville, Kentucky right now.

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By the way, the first day of

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spring next Tuesday, it's gonna be 27

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on Tuesday morning here. But

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it's 75 degrees right now, and

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we've got severe thunderstorms rolling across

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the plains ready to strike our

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immediate area here later on

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this afternoon and overnight. So what do you got

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to say to that? You got any nuclear fire

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showers coming up? Got

1:04

any hail the size of canned

1:06

hams coming your way? You can Trump

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me with that? Well, you

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never know. It snowed, I think, on Sunday here.

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Was it Saturday or Sunday? It snowed just recently.

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Well, it's goddamn New Jersey in early March! 70

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degrees and sunny! Well, it's 70 degrees and sunny!

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That's why I'm saying it. I'm here with you!

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Oh, for fuck's sake! We've

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had that all winter long here. It

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was 80 degrees in November and it

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was fucking below zero wind chill in

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December and it was goddamn this and

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that and the other thing. It just

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flies around like a goddamn

1:38

pinball machine. You got to

1:40

expect that. We've ruined

1:42

the planet. We've ruined the climate. The shit's going

1:44

to hell in a hand basket. That

1:47

canned ham-sized hail is coming to a

1:49

place near you very soon. So

1:52

enjoy the ride. I guess that's the point, ladies.

1:54

We had a drought and then we had a

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wet. What is the opposite of a wet? A

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wet? What

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if you have a drought where it

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doesn't rain, you can't get any water, nothing's wet,

2:05

and then it won't stop raining? Not

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just a downpour, but a pattern of just rainy,

2:11

rainy, rainy, rainy, inches ahead of our rain, would

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that be the opposite of drought would be a

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wet? They don't call it a wet, I can

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guarantee it. What do they call it then? I

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don't know who they would be. The weathermen? Who

2:21

are the they? Let's establish that first. You're talking

2:23

about the people that keep an eye on this

2:26

type of phenomenon. The

2:28

wet phenomenon. Yes, where

2:30

it is the opposite of

2:32

drought and rains constantly. That

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wouldn't it drought or wet?

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It rains constantly at mom's penis. You've

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got, wait a minute, a dictionary held on here.

2:45

Wait a minute, synonyms and

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antonyms. It's

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an exciting show so far, ladies and gentlemen. I remind

2:53

you it's my show, but we're going to tell a

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little bit about words. I understand. Well, we've got sad

2:57

news to impart here in a minute, but the guy

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that I'm going to be talking about would have loved

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this shit. We're going to get to a dictionary shortly,

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ladies and gentlemen, after that a thesaurus. No,

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it's okay. Well, shit.

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Drought is not

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– no, shit drought is

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patient. We know that. The

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word drought is

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– are you muffling yourself over

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there? I'm trying to. The

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word drought is not in

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the synonym, antonym dictionary

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for me to find the antonym of same,

3:31

but the word drown. An antonym

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of drown is rescue, save,

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preserve, extricate, deliver, recover, float,

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arrest. See, that doesn't seem

3:41

– the

3:44

antonym of drown would be live. Anyway,

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nevertheless, we can't – we encourage the

3:49

readers to write in

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with your comments at post office box 432

3:53

Chicago, Illinois 60609. Okay,

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it's your show but it's monitoring

4:03

that address there in Chicago. Once

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again, in case you

4:08

missed it, that Chicago, Illinois 60609. That

4:11

was where when I was a kid you used to

4:13

have to write in for the free brochure that they

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were going to give you on something.

4:19

I mean it's been fucking 55 years

4:21

ago so my memory is somewhat

4:23

faulty but I remember Chicago, Illinois

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60609. What

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free brochure would you have been getting?

4:30

I wasn't getting it. It was one

4:32

that they were heavily advertising on TV

4:34

commercials at the time. Get your free

4:37

brochure possibly it was for insurance, I

4:39

don't fucking know. It was

4:41

some big company in Chicago, Illinois with a zip

4:43

code of 60609. See,

4:47

you figure out the rest. All

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right, we're 60608 and I'll owe you one. One

4:53

tackle drop down, you finish it. Can

4:58

we talk about, we got to say, I know it's

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your program but at the top of the program here

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I want to recognize

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we just heard on the

5:07

interwebs this morning that Jackie Crockett

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passed away, the black sheep of

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the Crockett family. He was the

5:14

happy entertaining one. He

5:16

was totally unlike the rest of the family.

5:20

It was a rib. I'll explain who Jackie

5:22

was to us in a minute but Jackie

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Crockett was the brother of obviously

5:29

Jimmy Jr. and David and

5:32

Francis and the son of

5:35

Jim Crockett Sr. who started the dynasty.

5:40

When they owned Crockett promotions,

5:44

Jimmy was obviously the president

5:47

and David was I'm sure he had

5:49

some corporate title of

5:51

vice president or something but everybody

5:53

knew David as the TV announcer

5:55

after his brief Foray

5:58

into wrestling that did not make it out

6:00

of your his rookie year. David.

6:02

Finley. David. Family where was

6:04

his middle name? David Finley Crockett. David

6:06

F. Crockett. So. Anyway,

6:11

And. Francis, as we all know, worked

6:13

in. Merchandise:

6:15

And was guy in charge of the ballpark

6:17

that they owned in Charlotte. Do with the

6:19

Charlotte owes the baseball team and. That.

6:22

type of thing. and Jackie. Head.

6:26

Probably. The most fun job with

6:28

the least amount of responsibility, which is

6:30

that's exactly the way he wanted it.

6:33

He was the head camera man,

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the fuck and handheld floor camera

6:37

guy at all of the. A

6:40

syndicated Tv tapings that Crockett did in

6:42

the Carolinas going back to before they

6:44

got on T B and. You

6:47

know when they you're A When they

6:49

got the Nemo Truck, National Electronics Mobile

6:51

Operation at Second and Tv Drug that

6:53

they would drive up to. Sills.

6:55

Be North Carolina and Food Tv.

6:58

And. A deadly Jackie

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could interact the most with the

7:03

boys were as. I'm

7:05

not say the Jimmy and David and would be around

7:07

a boys but Jimmy. And.

7:09

And David also everybody knows where

7:11

are they were dry as personalities

7:14

they were reserve they weren't company

7:16

and. With. Threats: Throw

7:18

in the door open and fuck and

7:20

laugh out loud I you fucking idiot

7:22

What the fuck End are you know?

7:24

Just say I how you know and.

7:27

They. Were very reserved. Jimmy

7:29

was positively dry. And.

7:32

They always. You'd see if if Jimmy did

7:34

come to the Matches, he'd still be wearing

7:37

a jacket even if he didn't have a

7:39

tie on and a collared shirts and. You.

7:41

Know David's always dress it up because

7:44

he's the Tv announcer. You only saw

7:46

Jackie Crockett wearing a tie. When.

7:48

He was forced into be in Philly,

7:51

an interview guy. Giovanni was somewhere else,

7:53

right? That. he had to do

7:55

a couple of stand up interviews otherwise he was

7:57

not wearing a suit he was not wearing a

7:59

tie I've never seen a

8:01

motherfucker sweat so much in my life

8:03

as he did at those syndicated

8:07

TV tapings in Spartanburg and all those

8:09

other places in the middle of summer

8:12

and He's carrying that fucking

8:14

camera around and he's got shorts on and

8:16

he's fucking just looked like he poured a

8:18

bucket of water over his head And

8:21

loved every minute of it. He had a ball

8:23

doing that shit and he'd be back in the

8:25

locker room and Fucking

8:27

around with the guys because and like I said,

8:29

he was the black sheep. He was the one

8:31

that was It was

8:33

like Owen Hart and the Hart family. He was the one

8:35

with a sense of humor And

8:38

I'm not knocking David and Jimmy when I say

8:40

that but that's what all the boys thought was

8:42

you there so They're

8:44

the epitome of bland white men and

8:46

here's fucking Jackie right

8:48

and and they were David

8:50

and Jimmy were married and settled down

8:52

and Jackie was single and he went

8:54

out with the boys to plumb crazy

8:56

and got as drunk as they did

8:59

and fucking chased women and I

9:02

guess he kept the the cameraman

9:04

job even through the Turner era

9:09

and the guy who he was still

9:11

there doing it when I left but I mean years

9:13

after that I guess and And

9:15

you know, he just he loved

9:18

that shit and he was the fucking

9:20

personality and if

9:22

there was a Camera

9:24

shot to be had of any

9:29

Voluptuous female in the

9:31

in the audience anywhere whether it be a

9:33

you know fucking rec center or one of

9:35

the TBS NBA

9:37

arenas he would find it for

9:39

the enjoyment of the he'd

9:42

focus his camera in such a way As

9:45

everybody's watching him focus his camera and

9:47

meanwhile the locker room is getting entertainment

9:50

He just he just you know,

9:52

he was fucking an over-the-top personality.

9:54

He could have been

9:56

one of the boys had he chosen to go in

9:59

that and I don't know about

10:01

his athletic ability, but had he chosen to go

10:03

into that, he could have been one of the boys. I

10:06

hate to hear that, but... You know,

10:08

it's crazy too when you think about like 1980s

10:10

WWF, no one ever says, oh

10:12

yeah, my favorite camera guy was... No

10:15

one knows who any of those guys were. No one knows

10:17

any of their names. But with Jackie Crockett, and

10:20

knowing that Crockett Promotions was a relatively

10:22

small crew, overall as

10:24

a company, and then later on, just,

10:27

you know, talking about the production team, think

10:29

about how many classic moments were

10:31

seen through his lens. Oh yeah, and

10:33

he was the one that was smartest to the

10:36

business. I mean, all of our... It

10:38

was mostly the same crew. You

10:41

know, TBS was a different crew

10:44

at a different setup. They used

10:46

the TBS personnel there,

10:48

and a lot of them were regulars, also

10:50

most of them. But with Crockett's syndicated TV

10:52

and the TV truck, it was same director

10:56

Wayne Daniel and... The

10:58

same audio guys, most times same camera people.

11:00

But Jackie was the smartest one to the

11:02

business, and the one that could just... Bop

11:05

in and out and talk openly, and, you know, what are

11:07

you doing? Or, you know, you would go up to him

11:09

and say, well, we're going to shoot this. And... And

11:12

because there were really no production

11:14

meetings with the actual... Production

11:17

crew in those days, and the... You

11:21

know, the wrestling end, except

11:23

for, you know, if

11:25

Dusty knew, ah, shit, they might miss this.

11:27

He'd tell JJ, go make sure they don't

11:29

miss this. And otherwise, it was just a

11:31

fucking free-for-all. But... Jackie

11:34

was the one that was most important, but he

11:36

could get away with shit too, could like... If

11:40

we were in a squash match in

11:42

some little gym or whatever, Jackie

11:45

would come up next to me. I'm on the

11:47

floor managing the midnight, and he'd get next to

11:49

me with the camera, and he's got the camera

11:51

on his right shoulder, and he's holding it with

11:54

his right hand, right? With

11:56

his left hand, he's fucking either trying to goose me

11:58

with his thumb and the ribs or... pinching

12:00

me in the ass or whatever to get me to

12:02

fucking jump. And at

12:04

one point, this made television, the

12:06

director took it. He

12:08

crowded me so much in

12:10

the corner where I look over my shoulder to the

12:12

left, he's standing right there, I look over his shoulder,

12:14

I finally reach in my pocket, I've got like 20

12:17

bucks I was going to take to the concession stand and

12:19

get hot dogs later. And I

12:22

pull out the 20 bucks and I'm

12:24

like, here, please leave me alone. And

12:26

his hand reaches out on camera and takes

12:29

the money from me and then backs away

12:31

from me. Because

12:33

what are they going to do? Fire the

12:36

boss's brother? Right? It

12:40

broke up the monotony, doing

12:43

shit like that. But

12:46

then with the big stuff also, whether

12:48

it be the fireball with Ronnie Garvin

12:50

or those

12:52

flare and steamboat showdowns

12:54

or whatever, he was there

12:57

through from the beginning because

13:01

he's a member of the family, but he'd

13:03

worked there from the 70s through that mid-Atlantic

13:05

glory years, the expansion, the whole nine yards

13:07

all the way through TBS. And was

13:11

again, just the irascible one.

13:15

Well, that is the tribute to the

13:18

irascable one. Shoo! Shaky

13:20

Crockett. Don't make me get my

13:22

dictionary. Is it next

13:25

to the thesaurus and the stegosaurus

13:27

and whatever else you have over

13:29

there? Over next to my stegosaurus,

13:31

right next to the spelling dictionary,

13:33

the quotation dictionary, the English handbook,

13:35

the medical advisor, the world

13:37

atlas, the business dictionary,

13:39

medical dictionary, and American heritage

13:41

dictionary third edition, along with

13:43

my book of synonyms and

13:45

antonyms. All right.

13:47

You know what I got here? My back shelf,

13:49

I got a lot of what you have. What

13:52

do you got there, big boy? I have a

13:54

thesaurus of anecdotes. Okay,

13:59

what else? Oh, you got

14:01

one fucking book. On this one shelf here, I

14:03

have the bag of Ed Geetha. I

14:05

have a couple of books on TM.

14:08

I have a Confederacy of Dunces. I

14:10

have The Impelligent Investor. I have Dryer's

14:12

English. Everyone should have that. You

14:15

got awfully far away from the microphone just to

14:17

rattle off five or ten books. I wasn't done.

14:19

You stopped me from rattling off. You know what? I could have

14:22

rattled off dozens of books. Well,

14:24

you know what? I got my hand. I'm

14:26

afraid to ask. Don't tell anyone. The

14:29

Flipbook of Creative Cursing,

14:32

it's a mix-and-match profanity

14:34

generator that one

14:36

of the members of the Cult of Cornet sent me. How

14:39

does that work? Well, there's a

14:41

bunch of words on the

14:43

left-hand side in flipbook fashion and

14:46

a bunch of words on the right-hand

14:48

side in flipbook fashion. And

14:50

you just randomly flip to a place on

14:53

each, and it

14:56

will tell you what your creative

14:59

cursing has been generated. For

15:01

example, I just flipped randomly,

15:04

and apparently you, sir, are

15:06

a rectum slime. That's

15:08

pretty good. Or

15:11

you could also be a crap

15:13

skank. That's pretty good,

15:15

too. A pisswad,

15:17

a dick chomper,

15:19

a jizz monkey. Why

15:21

do I feel like Jericho may have this book?

15:24

A juice waffle. He's trademarked – oh, wait a

15:27

minute. Trademark, Chris Jericho. I don't think we need

15:29

any more. Juice waffle. That

15:31

was not – How

15:33

about a pecker wrangler?

15:38

Well, he here just randomly prickwanker. That

15:40

kind of makes sense. A prickwanker. A

15:42

prickwanker. That's one page away from a

15:45

prick muncher, I'll have you know. All

15:47

right, that sounds painful. And

15:49

it goes on from there, you butt

15:52

biscuit. So it's

15:54

your program. We got a lot to talk about today.

15:56

A lot of stuff going on. Let's get to work,

15:58

Reed. You

16:00

can be re-dieden today. What

16:05

is that? You don't want to be re-dieden? I

16:07

don't know who is that? Who is re-dieden?

16:09

Oh, goddamn, everybody all over. Like Travis Heckel

16:11

right now is goddamn farting himself right off

16:14

the couch laughing about this. Back

16:16

in the old days of glorious

16:19

local radio, the most

16:21

popular morning DJ in town

16:23

was the Duke of Louisville,

16:26

Bill Bailey on wacky radio,

16:28

AM radio, W-A-K-Y. He

16:30

did the morning show and he

16:33

was the fucking grumpy

16:35

local DJ that they do movies and

16:37

sitcoms about. He was an older guy

16:39

with gray and hair, but he had

16:42

that gravel voice that let's get to

16:44

work, Reed. And

16:46

Reed Yaiden was

16:48

his sidekick who did

16:50

the traffic and the weather because he was

16:52

the local TV news helicopter guy back when

16:55

they needed such a thing. And he'd fly

16:57

all over the place for the evening news

16:59

and the helicopter and tell people where the

17:01

traffic was. Now they got this on the

17:04

computer. Back then, you needed

17:06

a helichopper. But his

17:08

other job was being

17:10

the second banana to the

17:12

Duke of Louisville, who would say anything

17:14

at any time and would

17:17

never get to work on time. And

17:20

every morning at six o'clock, when the

17:22

show started, they would be announcing, ladies

17:24

and gentlemen, if you can look in the

17:27

interstate 64 or this highway or

17:29

that street or whatever, can you spot the

17:31

Duke of Louisville? He's supposed to be on

17:33

his way. And people would

17:35

try to spot him and

17:37

call in, I saw him at the corner

17:39

of fourth and main, and he'd get there about

17:41

6 30 and Reed would have to do the show.

17:44

And then Bailey would come in, sit

17:46

down, act like nothing was wrong. Probably

17:50

hung over and say, let's get to work,

17:52

Reed. All

17:55

right. Well, with that, an amazing story. So

17:58

people all over Louisville right now. have

18:00

fuzzy feelings in their taint, reliving their

18:03

childhoods, and you're just, you're a

18:05

hard-hearted son of a bitch, Brian Last.

18:08

Well, that may be so, but let's talk

18:10

about other hard things.

18:13

I don't hear other hard things. Nothing really is

18:15

hard. Hey, Jim, let's talk about one

18:18

of the wackiest stories out there, and I'm going to

18:20

pull up an article while we have our initial laughter

18:22

session here. Yes, yes. The

18:24

announcement that Miro... Oh!

18:27

And C.J. Perry, the former

18:29

Rusev and Lana, that

18:32

they are in the process

18:34

of getting divorced. This

18:36

news broke earlier this week. And

18:39

I don't want people to think

18:41

that I'm hard-hearted, Hannah, here. I

18:43

wasn't laughing at the news. I didn't

18:45

know you were going to lead with that. I

18:47

wasn't laughing at their divorce or their personal issues

18:50

or whatever. I

18:53

was laughing at everything else

18:55

about this story because it... God

18:57

damn it. You know,

19:00

we talked a couple weeks ago about the TV

19:02

series. They shoot one season, they end you with

19:04

a cliffhanger, they get canceled, they never come back

19:06

and we never find out, right? We're

19:09

never going to find out the resolution

19:12

of Miro's angle with God

19:14

and his wife. Apparently

19:16

when you try to fight God and your

19:18

wife at the same time, you lose. Well,

19:23

who knows though? We may see the end of the

19:25

angle because, well, the article says that... What's the end

19:27

of the angle going to be? That he's

19:30

disappeared? He fucking threw her off a bridge

19:32

somewhere? And

19:34

is that news going to come live from Bulgaria?

19:36

More on that in a moment. Here's

19:40

what's happened here. With

19:44

this whole thing

19:46

with Miro in AEW,

19:49

he came in from

19:51

being the Bulgarian brute in

19:54

the WWF and Rusev and

19:57

he's massive, he's a physical

19:59

beast. He's got the

20:02

accent and the voice and the look

20:04

and the aggression. And

20:06

they bring him in a pink

20:09

t-shirt and ballet slippers as the

20:11

best friend of a fucking preliminary

20:14

guy they picked up in England and

20:16

his girlfriend

20:19

who's also gone away. They've

20:21

all gone away. And

20:24

that poison, they were fighting over video games.

20:26

And that poisoned him pretty much for a

20:28

while. Then he went away. Then he came

20:30

back. And he was this

20:33

big Bulgarian brute that was kicking his

20:35

shit out of everybody. He was, oh,

20:38

well, now this may be something. Let's

20:41

watch this. Yeah, he sounds mean. He

20:44

looks mean. He's beating people up. We need

20:46

some more of this. He

20:48

had started talking about potentially

20:53

being upset with his lord

20:55

or savior or... You

20:57

know... Or a woman. He

20:59

gave him a bad neck. Or a woman. God gave

21:01

him a bad neck. And the woman. He even brought

21:04

that up in those promos, right? Like my hot wife.

21:06

He was mad at her in those promos. And

21:08

then he goes away again. Man,

21:11

we don't see him for I don't know how the fuck long. Now,

21:13

to be fair, hold on. We did hear that he filmed a

21:16

TV part. Oh,

21:19

God. Remember when he

21:21

was on TV for months and months? Where is he? No,

21:25

it doesn't take... A TV part doesn't

21:27

take as long to shoot as if

21:29

you were starring in Roots, for fuck's

21:31

sake. A fucking 12-part miniseries. No, he

21:33

went away. He

21:36

went away. And then

21:38

we heard that he didn't like his creative.

21:40

Well, if this ain't his creative that he

21:43

was doing before, what the fuck was it?

21:46

So then he comes back and this time we

21:48

get the whole kit and caboodle. We

21:51

get Miro, who's probably

21:53

still apparently mad at God, but has

21:55

moved on now because of

21:57

his hot and flexible wife. And

22:01

we've got him coming back beating people up,

22:03

but we also have the hot and flexible

22:05

wife has showed up and hot and flexible

22:07

Wants to be a manager, but she don't want

22:09

to manage Miro She

22:13

wants to manage apparently job guys who will

22:15

come up and ask her if they can

22:18

Be managed by her because that's

22:21

what happens and every time that She

22:26

does manage somebody they didn't open a door

22:28

and go into a room where you have

22:30

boom and Miro beats them up so

22:34

the life expectancy on being

22:37

a client of hot

22:39

and flexibles is Not

22:41

that good, but still these underneath guys for some

22:44

reason or two, but the point is So

22:47

now we've got we got Miro

22:50

We got the hot and flexible wife We

22:53

got the people the hot and flexible wife is signing

22:55

up She doesn't

22:57

wish Miro any ill apparently,

22:59

but she wants him to leave her

23:01

alone so she can do her own thing We

23:04

haven't heard from him as to

23:07

exactly what the fuck it is he'd like

23:09

her to do and Then

23:12

the whole thing ceases

23:14

to happen again And Now

23:19

now we are hearing That

23:22

besides the fact that they're

23:25

splitting up and divorcing which hey sunny

23:27

and Cher had a number one rated

23:29

television Program after the divorce not long,

23:31

but they had it Of

23:33

course they could work together except

23:38

That remember Brian just a few

23:40

weeks ago when Tony Khan booked

23:43

meet madness for one of

23:45

his broadcasts

23:48

and put Miro in it and

23:50

then had to Cancel

23:52

meat madness and change it to

23:56

Skeletal silliness with some skinny people

23:58

to take bumps Because

24:01

of injury to some of

24:04

the participants. And

24:07

then Miro tweeted, sorry

24:10

that Tony did not know that

24:12

I have been injured and

24:14

getting treatment since January. We're

24:17

not injured in September. I

24:19

mean, that was injured in September

24:22

and got treatment in January. It

24:24

was a slow developing injury. It

24:26

was on the verge

24:28

of buckling and cracking at any point. So

24:33

he got hurt in September. He

24:36

got medical treatment in

24:38

January. But this

24:40

article says that when they broke up,

24:42

which apparently was a

24:45

goddamn while ago, Miro

24:47

moved back to Bulgaria. Well,

24:50

hold on. Let's go to the article here. Let's get

24:52

the exact quotes. I

24:54

have an article here from TMZ Sports. There is no

24:57

writer who has been attached to this. I'm

25:00

not surprised. AEW stars,

25:02

CJ Perry and Miro,

25:05

relationship over after

25:07

seven plus years of marriage. That's all in caps

25:09

and very big and bigger than everything else there.

25:12

CJ Perry and Miro have called

25:14

it quits on their marriage seven plus years after

25:16

tying the knot. And unfortunately

25:18

for the two wrestling stars, this

25:21

isn't part of an AEW storyline. TMZ

25:24

Sports has learned the famous now

25:26

former couple who also play

25:28

a married couple in the ring broke

25:30

up once and for all in the

25:33

winter of 2023 after

25:35

years of an on-again, off-again

25:38

relationship. The

25:41

couple said their I do's. So wait

25:43

a minute. Is this every

25:45

time they've been off again instead of on again? Is that why

25:47

they paused the deal? Because they don't know whether they're going to

25:49

be able to get through with it or not? But

25:52

the weird thing is that's what

25:54

they did in angle. Like remember her

25:56

and Bobby Lashley were a thing. Well,

25:58

remember her and Bobby Lashley make it. out while

26:00

Miro's on the ground in pain in front

26:02

of them? No, because that was before we

26:04

were forced by public demand to watch all

26:06

this shit. I saw that. I

26:09

saw that. But I guarantee you,

26:11

I know

26:13

Bobby Lashley as a person, this was entirely

26:15

professional, at least on his part. The

26:18

couple said their eye-dos in July 2016, a

26:21

couple years after they began dating, we reached

26:24

out to Perry, formerly known

26:26

as Lana in WWE, who confirmed

26:29

the split, formerly known as Employed

26:31

in AEW. Here's a quote, Miro

26:34

and I have made the difficult decision

26:36

to separate after many wonderful years together,

26:39

and have decided to move on as friends, and

26:42

hopefully on-screen characters somewhere down

26:45

the road. As

26:47

for what went wrong, our

26:49

sources say there wasn't an explosive fight

26:52

or cheating. They simply grew

26:54

apart over the years. She

26:57

wanted to be hot and flexible, but he

26:59

wanted to play video games. No, I added

27:01

that. Oh, come on. In

27:04

fact, we're told Perry and Miro,

27:06

known as Rusev in WWE, remain

27:09

friends, and still plan to

27:11

work together in the future. It's

27:14

likely music to the ears of executives

27:16

at AEW, where both are

27:19

employed, as the wrestling stars

27:21

have portrayed themselves as a married couple

27:23

going back to the WWE a decade ago

27:26

through present-day AEW. T.J.

27:29

Perry and Miro, a former

27:32

AEW TNT, and three-time

27:34

U.S. champion in WWE were

27:37

last photographed out together in public

27:40

in late 2022. Wait, what? Either

27:44

they broke up after that or the photographers

27:46

left them alone. That was the last time

27:48

they were photographed in public. And

27:51

it has been a couple months since they wrestled together on

27:53

TV. Neither Perry

27:56

nor Miro have yet filed for

27:58

divorce. move

28:00

back to Bulgaria and shortly after

28:02

the couple called it quits. Or

28:06

as I called it, I'm injured. Again,

28:10

you know, TMZ said all those

28:12

things, we're just reporting what these

28:14

people say, I'm not making mockery

28:16

of their divorce of their personal

28:19

life. What I'm making

28:21

mockery of is when was somebody gonna

28:23

tell Tony Khan? They

28:25

both still work

28:27

there. Hey, they both still work there.

28:30

But no, if Tony Khan's booking this

28:32

guy, he books him

28:34

and then Miro says, I'm injured. Did

28:36

he also say I'm injured in fucking

28:38

Bulgaria? Why would you

28:41

book a guy from Bulgaria to come into

28:43

a cold fucking TV match? What

28:45

the fuck is going... Again,

28:48

and where's Tony been sending the... has

28:50

he been sending the weekly check to

28:52

fucking Bulgaria? Where the

28:55

fuck is Bulgaria? To be fair, Miro asked

28:57

if he could get better at

28:59

home telling me just didn't know that was gonna

29:01

be in Bulgaria. Wait, Bulgaria. I mean,

29:04

is there a Bulgaria, Missouri,

29:06

or are we talking about the Bulgaria?

29:11

The Bulgaria. Well, he's over in the...

29:13

Eastern Europe, that Bulgaria, yes. So

29:16

I got to know who

29:18

told Tony or has anybody told

29:20

Tony that our

29:22

man in Bulgaria is back in

29:24

Bulgaria. This

29:26

is fucking... what are you just tossing his name around?

29:28

Yeah, we're gonna put him on the show next week.

29:31

No, I'm hurt. Oh,

29:34

when will you be better? Well, I'm in Bulgaria.

29:36

What... and by the way, we look forward to

29:38

working together on screen. How are you gonna do

29:40

that now? They're

29:43

gonna have to bring him back from Bulgaria. Where

29:46

the fuck is she from? Is she from Russia? She

29:49

used to

29:51

have a Russian accent. Where's she from? I

29:53

think actually she is originally

29:55

either from Russia or from one of the...

29:57

oh god damn, a Russian state, but her

29:59

family... we moved to America when

30:02

she was very young. That actually a real thing.

30:04

Some of them immigrants, huh? Hey, let's not

30:06

phrase it like that, but she certainly didn't

30:09

have a real Russian accent if that was

30:11

your question. Well,

30:13

as soon as Tony could get a goddamn

30:16

rape from fucking international

30:18

Northwest Airlines where he'd get a good

30:20

rate from Bulgaria and a good rate

30:22

from Bratislava, maybe he could

30:24

bring these two star-crossed lovers back together again

30:26

and give us a resolution to this angle

30:29

that we didn't really understand to begin with.

30:31

Nobody bothered to explain to us on the

30:33

way out. Apparently

30:36

nobody bothered to explain to Tony it was on its

30:38

way out. It sounds

30:40

like Miro's taking it well. Where's Miro? He

30:42

flew back halfway across the world. And

30:45

stayed there. And

30:47

that's just Tony. Tony, remember those

30:50

spots? You're not old enough, Brian. By the

30:52

time you were a kid, parents didn't care

30:54

where their fucking children were. When

30:56

I was a kid, every local

30:58

TV station right before the 11

31:00

o'clock news would play the little

31:03

bumper spot, it's 11 o'clock. Do

31:06

you know where your children are? It's

31:08

kind of a public service, right? And

31:11

unfortunately, as I said, people quit giving a shit and

31:13

they stopped doing that. We still have that on Channel

31:15

5 here in New York. It's 10 p.m. Do you

31:17

know where your children are? Well, in New

31:20

York? What,

31:22

did I get about a 50% positive rate? Maybe?

31:26

But anyway... Positive for what? Positive

31:28

for people knowing where the fuck their children are.

31:33

But anyway, I think we ought to have a spot

31:35

for Tony right before Dynamite comes

31:37

on on Wednesday

31:39

nights. It's

31:41

8 o'clock. Tony, do you know where your

31:44

wrestlers live? Just

31:48

see if he's keeping track of it. Well, we will see

31:50

if... It's been a weird,

31:52

like, strange long road for Miro leaving. It's

31:55

like it's been for a few years now and he's just

31:57

still there. It's just he

31:59

never... Does anything? Well, collision first

32:01

started. He was one of the guys. This

32:04

will be the place where you'll see Mirro finally.

32:07

And that didn't last. They're trying

32:09

to create demand. Mystery

32:13

and aloofness creates demand. Yeah, everything maybe

32:16

does a competition amongst the wrestlers who

32:18

can, through one

32:20

method or another, make the most

32:22

per match in

32:24

their contract. Yes. And

32:27

that's not like the... Because that's another way, even if

32:29

you can't be the highest paid guy. If

32:32

they're working the highest paid guy pretty

32:34

good and you're in the middle but

32:36

you've never worked, you're coming out on

32:38

a pro-rated basis, you're coming out ahead.

32:40

So I think there's a

32:42

lot of guys that are probably playing the fucking board

32:45

game. And maybe at the end

32:47

of the year, there's a cash prize they put

32:49

up in a pool. Who

32:52

can actually get paid regularly and

32:54

work the absolute fewest amount of

32:56

times and nobody even notice? It's

33:03

a long way from Bulgaria if you want

33:05

to rock and roll. I

33:07

don't know how much he wants to rock and roll but hopefully we

33:09

get to see Mirro again on TV with

33:12

a push where he stays around and doesn't

33:14

leave for a while. He had a good

33:16

run as TNT champion. That ended. Do

33:18

they have a Bulgarian version of

33:20

Divorce Court or some kind of

33:23

marriage counseling show? I

33:25

don't know. I don't know if they have their

33:27

own Bulgarian Wapner or anything else but Jim... Bulgarian

33:31

Wapner? It sounds like a dirty Sanchez. It

33:33

sounds like some kind of goddamn evil

33:36

practice nickname. I

33:39

gave him a Bulgarian Wapner. Alright,

33:41

go ahead. Let's stay on the

33:43

topic of the ridiculous and let's

33:45

go to the review of this week's episode of Dark Side

33:48

of the Ring. I must admit

33:50

I enjoyed this for perverse reasons this

33:52

episode. The story of

33:54

I guess not just Marcus Bagwell or Buff

33:56

Bagwell but Buff and the

33:58

Bagwells, the entire Bagwells. WellKline.

34:01

Yeah, hold on. I'm zipping

34:03

through my notepad. I've wanted

34:05

to make

34:07

sure I was accurately reporting some of

34:10

these things. So yes, and we talked

34:12

to Evan Husney here

34:14

last week. I went on the experience

34:16

where one of these programs, it's

34:19

probably out by now, about

34:22

the entire season and he mentioned that there

34:24

were some over-the-top stories

34:27

about... I've obviously

34:29

met Mark Bagwell in

34:32

the past. I've never spent

34:36

any significant time in the

34:38

same place or working

34:40

with him or whatever to any

34:42

extent. So I had no

34:47

preconceived notion otherwise than what

34:49

I've heard that he's over

34:52

the last 20 years, always been in

34:54

some kind of fucking issue or other.

34:58

But I had no

35:00

idea about most of

35:02

the things that were in this episode,

35:04

even how he got into business. To

35:06

be honest, in many cases, I've never

35:08

been curious enough to seek this information

35:10

out. But I would

35:13

have been cognizant of him since I

35:15

guess this was his first spot because

35:18

Joe Petucino, when he was doing... thought

35:21

he was going to be doing global wrestling with

35:23

the backing

35:25

of the Nigerian millionaire and we've told that

35:27

story here on a program. I don't want

35:29

to sidetrack it but Bagwell

35:32

had gotten started in Georgia, Petucino's

35:34

in Georgia and out of Petucino

35:36

obviously knew Missy Hyatt and

35:41

he became the handsome stranger.

35:43

And this is one

35:45

of the things I remember asking

35:47

Petucino, are you out

35:50

of your mind because the

35:52

deal was Bagwell, nobody knew who he was

35:54

because he had just started but

35:56

he was a great-looking guy but

35:59

he was dressed up in like

36:01

a Lone Ranger mask and like a,

36:05

I think he had a like a

36:07

jacket and hat that kind of looked

36:09

like Rudolph Valentino shit. And

36:12

Petucino, do you know about the

36:14

bouquet of roses, Brian? I

36:16

mean, I remember the handsome stranger. Yeah,

36:19

but he started

36:21

out, Petucino had him coming

36:23

out with a bouquet of roses and

36:25

walking around the ring and presenting the

36:27

roses to the fucking some

36:30

lucky recipient young lady at ringside who

36:34

then apparently Petucino thought would

36:36

just swoon or whatever. And I mean,

36:38

think about the crowds that Joe was drawing at that

36:41

point in the sportatorium. There was

36:43

no, sometimes he had to look for a grandmother or

36:45

something, but it was just,

36:47

I said, what are you, all this kid's going to be,

36:50

you know, he's going to be great. And

36:53

you know, that's how I became cognizant of

36:55

him. And then, you know, I saw off

36:57

and on the various transformations in

37:00

WCW, but

37:04

I had no idea that his family

37:06

was as bizarre as, as

37:09

they are and were. And you know, if

37:13

the people didn't see the episode, his

37:15

father was apparently a race car driver

37:18

and a self-made millionaire who owned a

37:21

lumber company with 250 employees and had a

37:24

big family living in a big house and

37:29

somehow managed to fucking blow it

37:32

all and they went broke and

37:34

lost all their money. Now, I

37:40

don't know whether it was because basically

37:45

Brian, this is probably a

37:48

more Southern story than it is a Northern

37:50

story, but this is

37:52

the classic example of the honey boo

37:54

boo syndrome. When

37:56

you get some rednecks from

37:59

down South, They'd get a lot of money.

38:02

Shit happens. I've,

38:04

I've seen, you know, been around a number

38:06

of these and you see them down here,

38:08

I don't know if they have this phenomenon

38:12

up in New Jersey, but

38:14

I mean, the father lost a poker

38:16

game in his house one time. So

38:19

he grabs a machine gun, which he

38:21

just happens to have in his fucking

38:23

house and goes out to

38:25

the lake they live in front of and mows

38:27

down or heard a fucking geese. Or

38:30

when Buff and his friends, well,

38:33

he wasn't Buff then, but Bag Marcus and

38:35

his friends are going to go out on

38:38

the town. He comes in and throws

38:40

them bags of cocaine and said,

38:42

now don't get in trouble now boys, have fun.

38:46

And Bagwell's like, well, at least he knew it was

38:48

clean stuff. He knew where he got it. What

38:51

the fuck? Uh,

38:54

and, and Judy's the one running the lumber

38:56

yard and the, uh, everybody's putting

38:58

her over as, you

39:01

know, the, she's the one everybody was

39:03

scared of. She ran everything. Danny Hodge.

39:07

Well, she's Danny Hodge and fucking John

39:09

Gotti at the same time. No cross

39:12

this, this lady. What

39:14

the fuck? She married this fucking guy,

39:17

the race car driver that fucking lost

39:19

all his money and used machine guns

39:21

on geese. And, and

39:24

the pick, the old pictures, he looks like

39:26

a normal fat redneck from down South, but

39:28

as he's sitting there as a talking head,

39:30

it looks like somebody said his face on

39:32

fire and put it out with an ax.

39:35

Did he have some kind of accident

39:38

slash reconstructive fucking surgery? Or is

39:40

it just that he's not

39:43

aged well? I'd

39:45

bet. I, so shockingly,

39:47

the family

39:49

finds out that they're in financial trouble and

39:51

they're going broke. And

39:54

that begins trouble with Judy and dad

39:56

and Judy then decide she's going to

39:58

leave one time and. dad won't let

40:00

her and apparently from what Marcus says

40:03

dad is beating Judy so Marcus

40:07

comes out and stops him with a

40:11

gun say I'll shoot you you wouldn't shoot

40:13

me I'm your well don't make me so

40:16

his father goes it being the voice of

40:18

reason in the family goes and gets the

40:20

gun that he's hidden on top of the

40:22

refrigerator and before

40:24

he can shoot Marcus Marcus shoots him

40:29

what the fuck why are these people

40:31

telling these fucking stories this is a

40:33

television program not goddamn therapy session you

40:35

were right it sounds like a southern

40:38

thing to me oh

40:40

I tell it this is a southern family it

40:43

is a southern family I guarantee you

40:45

they've got the stars and bars out

40:47

front they're voting fucking strictly for Trump

40:49

and they're goddamn

40:53

you know what story they didn't tell in here and I always think

40:55

about it there was probably no way to include it because it wouldn't

40:57

have fit but one of the

41:00

first stories I ever heard about Marcus Bagwell was

41:02

that while living in the same

41:04

complex as Missy before he was in the

41:06

business like Eddie Gilbert showed

41:08

up in the night or something I

41:11

get missy's out there I don't want to say a

41:13

story that isn't exactly true because the rumor was Eddie

41:15

Gilbert showed up either trying to win

41:17

missy back or trying to catch missy

41:19

with some whatever it was

41:21

and he encountered a young

41:24

not fucked up really buff

41:26

Marcus Bagwell like what the fuck

41:28

are you doing and that was the first time he met Bagwell

41:30

before he was even in the business when

41:32

Eddie tried to get into missy's apartment I

41:35

can believe that because we find out

41:38

that living

41:40

in the same apartment complex he meets

41:42

missy who says why you ever decide

41:44

to be a wrestler and he's

41:47

already working as a male stripper since

41:49

his family has now gone broke and

41:51

he's married this poor girl named Tanya

41:54

they're both like 18 years old

41:56

and somehow he

41:59

convinces Tanya to become the stripper

42:01

so that he can go

42:03

to wrestling school and after he

42:05

gets his first contract, then

42:08

he'll take care of her. But

42:11

now, did you see is Steve

42:15

the Brawler Lawler? What

42:19

did they do there? Because they showed

42:21

a picture of Steve Kyle from 1972

42:23

when he was working as Steve Lawler.

42:26

Looks like a little Al Vavosaur

42:28

photo. Yes, but there was another

42:30

guy who worked as Steve the

42:33

Brawler Lawler in Georgia. Independence, was

42:35

it? Or was that Steve Kyle

42:37

on his way out?

42:40

Because I thought he was done long before that.

42:43

He said he was trained by Steve Lawler,

42:45

not that he was working with Steve. Yes,

42:48

no, he said he was trained by Steve.

42:50

My question is, I didn't know Steve

42:52

Kyle was around the

42:54

wrestling business in 19 fucking... what was that?

42:56

89 or 90? 90-91,

42:59

I would say. Okay,

43:01

yeah. Where'd

43:03

he go for fucking... Maybe

43:05

there was another fake Lawler, Gary Lawler.

43:07

Well, there was a Gary Lawler and

43:10

I think he was from Southern Indiana.

43:12

But I think there may have even

43:14

been... Somebody helped me down in Georgia.

43:16

Was Steve the Brawler Lawler that trained

43:19

Marcus Bagwell Steve Kyle? But

43:22

anyway, nevertheless, so

43:24

then Missy gives the videotape

43:26

of him as the handsome

43:28

stranger to Jim Barnett, oh

43:30

my boy. And

43:33

here we... And again,

43:35

that was fairly quick. So

43:39

he spent almost his entire

43:41

career as a wrestler of

43:43

any note whatsoever in WCW,

43:46

start to finish. Which

43:49

is unusual

43:51

for almost

43:53

anybody, right? But

43:57

tag teaming with two cold... Scorpio

44:00

and then Scotty

44:02

Riggs, the American male,

44:04

they won cheesy gimmick after

44:07

another, but I

44:09

guess he was so good-looking they figured, well,

44:11

he's got to do something sometime. But

44:14

of course when he becomes a star, he

44:16

cheats on Tanya and broke

44:18

up with her because she couldn't forgive him

44:20

for it. And what about

44:22

the calf implant store? Oh, that's nothing. Slick

44:25

Johnson. I forgot to mention,

44:27

he stole the show in his thing.

44:30

Well, yes, he's hilarious. He is a

44:32

hilarious motherfucker. He was friends with Jeff

44:34

Jarrett and was refereeing for T&A when

44:37

I first got there. And yes,

44:40

he's a hilarious fucking guy and

44:42

not afraid to tell a fucking

44:45

story apparently that may cast people

44:48

in a negative light. But goddamn,

44:51

Bagwell got calf implants because

44:54

these calves wouldn't get big

44:56

enough and his body

44:58

rejected him. He nearly died. He

45:02

needed to have him taken out and need

45:04

to be carried to the toilet on

45:07

Slick's back for two weeks because he couldn't

45:09

fucking walk. You know, that's not even the

45:11

most ridiculous moment with him. I questioned,

45:14

I think, last review. What

45:16

are they gonna do? A reenactment of someone stubbing

45:18

their toe? They've taken it to a

45:21

whole new level. The

45:23

story from Slick

45:25

Johnson and then the reenactment

45:27

of Judy Bagwell's shaving Marcus

45:29

Bagwell's balls. Yes, that I

45:31

thought was one of the

45:34

finer reenactments because

45:37

you felt like you were right there. Apparently

45:40

Slick Johnson comes in

45:43

one day and because

45:45

when Bagwell actually finally gets

45:47

a fucking contract where he's

45:49

making some legitimate

45:51

amount of money out of WCW, he

45:54

hires his whole redneck

45:57

dysfunctional fucking family and pays

45:59

them south. to go

46:01

to the laundry for him or

46:03

do the shopping or whatever and

46:05

includes Slick walks in and

46:07

there's Bagwell Ben over Buck

46:09

Naked and Judy his mother

46:11

is shaving his balls

46:15

and they're just, hi Slick how

46:17

you doing? I

46:21

couldn't even imagine asking Ma excuse me if

46:24

you don't mind if you're not doing anything. My

46:27

shoulder is bad I can't reach back. I

46:30

thought it was bad when fucking what

46:32

is fat mama's name on

46:34

honey booboo when she took her shoe

46:36

off and showed everybody she had fucking

46:38

gnats flying under the pus and her

46:40

infected toenails. But

46:43

I'm telling you rednecks

46:45

was the southern thing. It's a southern thing. So

46:49

and by the way Eric Bischoff, Marcus

46:52

Alexander Bagwell, Scotty Riggs,

46:55

it looked like John Davidson and

46:57

fucking George Michael had babies back

46:59

in the day. All the hair,

47:01

all the tan, all the smiles,

47:03

all the buff. They look

47:06

like shit now. I would

47:09

like to register again that I'm in the best shape

47:11

of my life and I weigh 187 pounds

47:15

and I've got I've not had to

47:17

resort to shaving my head. I got

47:19

most all of my teeth and

47:21

the ones that show are still here. Well

47:23

for the record I think Scotty Riggs had a rough

47:25

time he said in the thing. He's had a rough

47:28

life. Well he's all right now but last week he's

47:30

in rough shape. I don't care. I'm just saying goddamn

47:32

it. Goddamn it

47:34

I'm gonna live till every

47:36

single one of these good-looking

47:38

handsome sexy motherfuckers rots

47:41

away and fucking looks like they got

47:43

leprosy and I'm gonna look the same

47:45

as I always have. And

47:47

when you look the same as you always have

47:49

you start out looking like shit and it

47:52

improves from there because you've lowered expectations.

47:54

You really think Bischoff looks that awful?

47:56

He just looks like Bischoff like an

47:59

older Bischoff. shaved his fucking head

48:01

because he's all gray. Well, he's always

48:03

embraced the gray. Maybe he looks a

48:05

little paunchy. Well,

48:08

he likes the wine. Maybe he's been drinking some wine.

48:10

Embrace the gray, but you know, you embrace it when

48:12

you have it. Well, I've still got quite a bit

48:14

of color. It's salt

48:16

and peppery. Pepper

48:18

may be a little weaker than it once was. Again,

48:21

let me just point out Scotty Riggs. Scott, I think

48:23

I saw him maybe work for Smokey Mountain Wrestling, uh,

48:26

when I was down there, uh, but

48:28

he was, he had a rough

48:30

go. Not fair to him. Well,

48:32

he, he was, he was, um, I don't know if

48:34

he had teeth in this interview. Well, I'm not sure,

48:37

but, uh, he was, uh, he was coming

48:39

up with Jake, the snake. At

48:42

that point. Remember Scotty was Scotty

48:44

was Jake's assistant when he got the 25

48:46

grand in cash in Mexico for shaving his

48:48

head and Scotty strapped it to his body

48:51

and locked himself in their rental car until

48:54

Jake got shaved and then they drove to the airport

48:56

where they could sit there all night in front of

48:58

witnesses. So nobody can fucking jump them. Anyway.

49:03

So finally Bagwell

49:05

joins the NWO after he's married

49:07

his second wife, Erica, and his

49:09

third wife, Judy, before he's 30

49:11

years old, uh,

49:14

he joins the NWO. And now the

49:16

quote from Bagwell is I have made

49:18

it. And you

49:21

know, he, that's what his mother opens

49:23

a corporation for him. And the Mark

49:25

hires the whole family and he

49:29

acts in some cheap movies and you

49:33

know, he thinks it's going to be great. And then I

49:35

knew he had had a neck injury. I never saw

49:37

the footage in until,

49:40

uh, as far as I

49:42

remember, until this. And now you see,

49:44

this was the

49:46

same kind of injury that Tommy young

49:49

had only instead of hitting headfirst

49:51

against somebody's back,

49:53

he hit headfirst against the ring

49:55

rope, but same principle. It jammed

49:58

his neck backwards. Steiner

50:00

went over the top of him on the bulldog and he

50:02

went out down and headbutted

50:04

him. And again,

50:08

what was he off for like a year

50:10

and he had surgery and plates put in

50:12

his neck and blah, blah, blah? How

50:15

many times a

50:17

week on television now

50:19

do we see guys taking way

50:23

more fucking brutal bumps than that

50:25

and somehow by miraculous divine

50:27

intervention, they get up and continue on and

50:29

it's only a matter of time? It's

50:33

only a matter of time. That's the sad thing. Cause

50:36

to play that in slow motion, it was

50:38

like, eh, if you know

50:40

what that can do to someone, then

50:42

you would say, oh shit, but otherwise

50:45

for a wrestling bump, that was me.

50:49

And anyway, so

50:51

he's off for a year and then

50:54

somehow that's what they got

50:56

Judy involved on TV, she's

50:59

pushing his wheelchair and blah,

51:01

blah, blah. And

51:03

even Bishop says, well, we probably went to

51:05

the well too often with

51:07

Judy Bagwell, but my God, what

51:11

I mean, do they forget they

51:13

acted like it was a good deal at first,

51:15

do they forget that everybody was laughing at him

51:17

from the first moment that she appeared on screen

51:19

and it was part of the days

51:21

of shit stain who was not mentioned to

51:23

this, obviously he's not pertinent to anything, but

51:27

it was part of what the people

51:29

were mocking WCW for. They,

51:32

they glossed over that part. You

51:35

know, they try to justify, I say they sometimes

51:37

people try to justify things that were really bad

51:39

in the past by pretending they were good. Well,

51:42

I guess they're making the Bagwell family

51:45

look bad enough in this show. Anyway,

51:47

we don't need to tell the truth

51:49

about all of that.

51:51

Bagwell on a pole. Yeah, but

51:54

anyway, and then, and I had, how.

52:00

How much of the detail had

52:02

you heard before about Marcus

52:07

Bagwell and Shane Helms getting in

52:09

an argument slash fight slash felonious

52:11

assault, pick your version of the

52:14

story that was

52:16

told here by Bagwell himself? You

52:19

know, I must admit partially because in

52:21

general I kind of don't care about some of

52:23

these people. I never really heard too much

52:25

about the story. I had heard that he had worked at first

52:27

raw and was fired, but I heard it was for him kind

52:31

of being himself. I mean, that's the

52:33

way it was put to me. Then his mom called

52:35

Jim Ross and all that. They

52:37

didn't even mention that, I don't think, in this. Well,

52:41

him being himself, what I had heard

52:43

was that people were not thrilled

52:46

with his attitude. He was

52:48

being himself. And then

52:51

they had the match that night

52:53

with he and Booker T. I

52:58

didn't have details otherwise. I've never asked Shane Helms

53:00

because his name wasn't mentioned to me as being

53:02

a part of it. But I think

53:06

that what probably part of

53:08

him being himself and they didn't like his

53:10

attitude was I believe he got

53:12

in an argument with Shane

53:15

Helms, Hurricane Helms,

53:17

our friend Hurricane, earlier

53:20

in the day before television, he talked

53:22

about they were at a

53:25

workout session. I guess that's what he's

53:27

referring to getting to TV early and

53:29

running through shit, right? That's because you're

53:32

dealing with Bagwell who only worked

53:34

in one company before he began

53:36

his downward descent into drugs and

53:38

madness. So therefore, as we'll

53:40

find out in a few minutes, he's actually never

53:42

been smart enough to the actual business. We'll find

53:44

out in a second. But see,

53:47

I never knew all this shit. His

53:51

story is

53:53

that they were

53:55

at a workout session, training

53:57

session, or however he turned I

54:00

forgot to write down the exact words. And

54:02

Shane Helms was a smart ass to him,

54:04

said something about, oh, Bagwell's got to show

54:06

up on time now because Helms

54:09

had worked in WCW with

54:11

Bagwell. And

54:13

Bagwell was already, it

54:15

had already been mentioned that when he came

54:17

back from his neck injury, he had quote

54:20

unquote turned to drugs or

54:22

possibly turned more to drugs.

54:26

And so I can believe that Shane Helms

54:28

said, ah, you know, because now Bagwell's in

54:30

a whole new atmosphere. He's got to actually

54:32

show up on time as to being fucked

54:35

up or whatever. And

54:37

I can believe that they had

54:39

an argument of Bagwell had a bad attitude. What

54:43

I don't know that I believe is

54:45

Bagwell's story that he said, well, I

54:47

gave him what my daddy taught me

54:50

called the Bagwell slap. It's just

54:52

a, just to express dominance. Where

54:54

he says he slapped Shane

54:58

Helms, who in the reenactment of this

55:00

went down. All

55:02

right. And then

55:04

the famous Bagwell slap, the

55:07

famous Bagwell slap enraged

55:09

Hurricane Helms so

55:12

badly, according to Marcus Bagwell,

55:16

that Bagwell says that as he

55:18

turned around to walk away victorious

55:20

with this one slap knockout, Shane

55:24

Helms, and they show this in

55:26

the reenactment, goes under his shirt

55:28

in the corner of the ring and gets a water

55:30

bottle. Brian, I

55:32

swear to God, water bottles have still been

55:35

plastic since 2001, right? They

55:39

were, they were still plastic in 2001, were they not? I

55:43

believe so. Yes. Okay. And also

55:45

they're in a ring working shit out, but

55:47

this water bottle was frozen. It was a

55:49

solid block of ice. Because

55:54

Bagwell says that Shane came from

55:56

behind out of nowhere with a

55:59

frozen ice. That was the

56:01

quote and hit him over

56:03

the head with and the reenactment of shit was

56:05

breaking everywhere And

56:07

then Bagwell says I Didn't

56:10

tell anybody You didn't tell

56:12

me by if somebody clocked you or that with

56:15

a fucking bottle in the middle of the ring

56:17

in a goddamn arena Before a TV taping and

56:19

with blood everywhere and there was no one else there You

56:21

guys were working on the ring and he said I looked

56:23

down. I saw his blood Did

56:25

nobody else saw you were completely

56:27

alone in this fucking arena and

56:30

wasn't it Spokane, Washington? It was

56:32

either Seattle or Spokane that this

56:35

this match happened So

56:37

he says I didn't tell anybody I

56:40

didn't put it over. I went to my own doctor

56:43

Marcus Bagwell has a goddamn

56:45

doctor in Spokane Washington in

56:48

the middle of the day in between workout and TV I'm

56:51

a chief strongbow. I'm gonna fucking

56:53

run out for a little while to get 25

56:55

staples put in my head I'll be right back

56:58

He says he put 25 staples in his head

57:00

and what he did was he colored it with

57:02

a sharpie So you couldn't see the stick Any

57:06

wrestled Booker T that night? That was a quote

57:09

from Bagwell and I had a match that night

57:11

with Booker T And

57:13

in said everybody started knocking their match like

57:15

it was so so what if it was

57:17

a bad match? And they have a clip

57:19

of the fans of this match sucks. This

57:21

match sucks Brian

57:24

correct me if I'm wrong because you're the

57:27

historian here and I'm just the small-town bird

57:29

lawyer but was

57:31

the conventional wisdom that Was

57:35

pretty much the story and accepted By

57:39

everybody not disputed by really

57:41

anybody that I remember of

57:44

any major consequence That

57:46

they were gonna do some kind of

57:48

WCW WWE

57:51

or F at the time if it was fucking

57:54

deal because Vincent bought the

57:56

thing but They put Booker

57:58

T and. Buff bagwell

58:01

out. Is

58:03

somewhere in Washington State. Where.

58:06

Debbie C. W. was not exactly

58:08

of a ratings powerhouse at that

58:10

point. And Bagwell

58:13

was just. Being.

58:15

Bagwell and prob possibly fucked up because

58:17

he did that by his own admission,

58:20

in those days are possibly just one

58:22

Very fucking good. And.

58:24

They had a shitty match because. That's.

58:27

The thing bagwell god by would be in bad

58:29

well into a B C W is cana like.

58:32

Move. Marc Mero Johnny be

58:34

bad he. And.

58:36

Everybody not it cause it's certain Vince got mad

58:39

and said fuck it and cut the whole deal

58:41

off. Is that not the way that it happen?

58:44

The. Way than I remember was the sands

58:46

shit all over the match in the building.

58:49

The. Match wasn't specifically great.

58:52

It didn't hurt at the fact that this is happening in

58:54

than of a big stars and of is Debbie not a

58:56

thing way the from Booker T and even bad while they

58:58

were stars their Booker T have been elevated but. It.

59:01

Wasn't Goldberg flair, the Nw? whoa, or

59:03

Lugar any with those guys and was

59:05

Booker T? Booker T was not the

59:07

and who Booker T would become later

59:09

and Bagwell was pretty much who Bagwell

59:11

would always be from then on. And

59:14

the story always was. The Vince Mcmahon

59:16

saw the reaction live in the room

59:18

that night where those fans shit all

59:20

over this match and said forget it,

59:22

we're not doing anything were Ww when

59:24

added to the Invasion the right way.

59:26

Basically. N. N N N. To

59:29

be fair to these guys, if they had

59:31

it in Atlanta, the people would have been

59:33

more forgiving. The headed North Carolina the headed

59:35

some Debbie See Debbie stronghold. Potentially Chicago might

59:37

have been neutral. But. It it wouldn't have.

59:40

It wouldn't have stunk air but it still

59:42

would have torn building down of even they

59:45

had at the Tokyo dome. But.

59:47

That's the way Vince is. He painted.

59:50

Ah vous fuckin' guys with the

59:52

whole brand ignored. The. Fact

59:54

that he was in a place that

59:56

didn't know them. And. this

59:58

was not the upper

1:00:01

echelon of the WCW roster and

1:00:03

it was just not the proper

1:00:05

presentation because he wanted it

1:00:07

to be a self-fulfilling prophecy because he didn't

1:00:10

really want to put those guys over. And

1:00:12

Kevin Dunn also when his ears saying see, you

1:00:14

see, we can have the old ass. Nobody knows

1:00:17

these guys and they're not

1:00:19

capable of doing what your guys

1:00:21

do Vince. Here let me

1:00:23

put my elbow in your lap and get a

1:00:25

little blood in your peony when I

1:00:27

say that. But

1:00:31

that's what happened and at that

1:00:33

point they called him up but I

1:00:35

believe once again I believe he had an

1:00:37

attitude problem. He and Helms may have gotten

1:00:39

an argument. I have a feeling that

1:00:43

if he had actually just hauled off and

1:00:45

slapped Shane Helms that we would have heard

1:00:47

about a fistfight that

1:00:50

one would think unless there was a

1:00:52

gag order that rivals who killed Kennedy

1:00:55

for once in a wrestling arena while his

1:00:57

shit was going on before a taping. But

1:01:02

Bagwell was

1:01:04

a sconner. I got fired over a bad match.

1:01:06

What the fuck? It

1:01:08

was a bad attitude. He was catered

1:01:10

to in WCW especially the few years

1:01:12

previous and WWF didn't

1:01:14

as we talked about with it,

1:01:17

mini-guess not just him. They

1:01:19

didn't give a shit. He was

1:01:21

in deep talent water already and he didn't

1:01:23

stand out. But the Bagwell's

1:01:25

quote here was, I was gonna be one

1:01:27

of the biggest names in pro wrestling ever.

1:01:31

That's the problem. He legitimately believed

1:01:33

that and that's you

1:01:37

can't come into the biggest company in

1:01:39

the world with the attitude that

1:01:41

you are a huge star unless

1:01:45

you've been a huge star and he wasn't even

1:01:47

a huge star in the second

1:01:49

biggest company. He was one of the guys

1:01:51

in the group and he

1:01:53

couldn't hang at that point in

1:01:56

the ring with the WWF Upper

1:01:58

Echelon. It all the car that

1:02:01

might have been great but he had bad attitude. So.

1:02:05

He's been in the one big promotion

1:02:07

for his entire career and he made

1:02:09

contract money. For. A

1:02:11

even a hundred grand a year was what they started

1:02:13

in the early nineties, but he I'm sure he was

1:02:15

making. To. Hire Judy and

1:02:18

Dad and the whole he whole gang.

1:02:21

You. Know, we know what the guess we're make it

1:02:23

into B C W the last few years? the

1:02:25

Nw or whatever. But. Now

1:02:27

he's thirty one years old. And

1:02:30

immediately he turned to drugs because

1:02:32

he's out of work and depressed

1:02:34

and broke. Apparently.

1:02:36

Because he's not save any money does he

1:02:38

had three book and wives. He.

1:02:41

Had a career where for probably nine

1:02:43

out of the first ten years of

1:02:45

his career he a guaranteed money making

1:02:47

and six figures from low to middle.

1:02:49

A new knows what. And

1:02:52

suddenly instead of just said I'll go

1:02:54

to Hawaii and fuck and relax for

1:02:56

six months. Is. Desperate and

1:02:58

turns to vog and drugs. And

1:03:01

wrestles in for the next

1:03:03

ten years. Before.

1:03:05

Finally, having the withdrawals seizure at

1:03:07

the wheel of his car where

1:03:09

he crashes his car nearly kills

1:03:12

himself. But. After he

1:03:14

recovers he has no money so he

1:03:16

takes twenty five grand. To.

1:03:18

Appear Audi a Gigolo Tv

1:03:21

show. Where. He

1:03:23

says he was only going it as a

1:03:25

coach and didn't tell his third wife who

1:03:27

are they all love him. All.

1:03:29

Of his ex wives apparently. Yeah, we love

1:03:31

images get you know what a fuck up?

1:03:34

Other I mean What the fuck. A

1:03:38

guests he goes and think he's gonna

1:03:40

be opposed to the other gigolo said

1:03:42

that he finds out. That.

1:03:44

It was almost soft porn. But.

1:03:48

He was so upset about it Brian it

1:03:50

was almost soft porn. but what him Sir

1:03:52

Sir. Robert. The and

1:03:54

and then he was he claims to

1:03:56

his ex wife but he couldn't answer

1:03:58

to because he was. Oh,

1:04:00

a movie, you know, a nervous about whole

1:04:02

thing, but the does a producer after told

1:04:04

him all you're not supposed to really fuck.

1:04:08

And it would just. But.

1:04:10

He was so upset about it,

1:04:12

He took up that line of

1:04:14

work then began working for Cowboys

1:04:16

for Angels. Is the

1:04:18

the male escort? But.

1:04:21

Is it enough shocking part of

1:04:23

events? His first

1:04:25

client falls in love with him. So

1:04:29

he started a spin one week there and

1:04:31

then the next week home with his wife

1:04:33

ended He leaves his life for the. Being

1:04:37

old lady who knows what made murray

1:04:39

and act that. It

1:04:45

is actually say idea he just you know

1:04:48

we and he's as a mod that's Mars

1:04:50

As far as said he said well my

1:04:52

wife got a job where she was never

1:04:54

home so so he went into the arms

1:04:57

of this plugin. Middle. Aged lonely

1:04:59

who are pay and him the fucker

1:05:01

of what the fuck is going on

1:05:04

here. So. The hands.

1:05:07

of but within they sit well with

1:05:09

they said was as the ex was

1:05:11

ex wife number three said as he

1:05:13

still with this while know photo that

1:05:15

didn't last. So. He ran

1:05:18

off his wife and still for some reason

1:05:20

to likes this fucking. Loser

1:05:22

priests a ship, but he's been fairly his

1:05:24

whole life. I've never know what he this

1:05:26

year. And.

1:05:28

In some reason she still likes him, but

1:05:31

he dumped her for some forgotten middle aged

1:05:33

woman it was paid him to. So.

1:05:36

Been. They showed

1:05:38

up at home security camera

1:05:40

footage and this was legitimate.

1:05:43

This. Was not a reenactment. I'm

1:05:45

not put that in quotation Marks Home

1:05:47

Security camera footage. Of

1:05:49

Bagwell in his tiny cluttered

1:05:52

living room. Is

1:05:54

somewhere at some point in the

1:05:56

two thousand teens? And.

1:06:00

I have a question. It looks like he's women

1:06:02

in a trailer. But. He had

1:06:04

he's got a security camera but it's

1:06:06

pointed inside his house was quite easy.

1:06:09

keeping it I would himself. But.

1:06:12

Is It shows him stand up out of

1:06:14

his chair, walk into a wall. Paying.

1:06:16

His head fall back into the recliner

1:06:18

and the recliner turn over backwards within.

1:06:21

Us and seen. I

1:06:23

don't think he's that good a goddamn actor

1:06:26

to have staged that. It is weird. the

1:06:28

five added security camera pointed into the living

1:06:30

room or well I'm wondering if makers and

1:06:32

Mister Lahey on of our boys is. Is

1:06:34

it some but I'd I wish I got

1:06:36

that but me to is it gives it.

1:06:39

Is somehow the family wanted to keep an eye

1:06:41

on him to make sure that he was still

1:06:43

breathing or somethin. One of these are, I don't

1:06:45

know. So. They go

1:06:47

the through the montage of he

1:06:49

as car wrecks and arrests and

1:06:51

organ all of them. And.

1:06:54

we've talked about that's a he was. He was

1:06:56

one of the was it was doing cameos at

1:06:58

first when he was all fucked up and. So.

1:07:02

Whatever them for. and unfortunately his

1:07:04

mother do get sick and passes

1:07:06

away. And.

1:07:09

Then apparently they said his knees

1:07:11

took me an but made him

1:07:13

clean up. The

1:07:15

it on the theory that she would take a

1:07:17

man so I guess was he living with his

1:07:19

mother at that point and. Couldn't. Take

1:07:21

care of himself, but. She

1:07:24

may seem clean up any goes to

1:07:26

visit. Diamond Dallas Page

1:07:28

and reunites with Scotty Rigs who was

1:07:31

apparently sleep when in his car. What

1:07:33

I: What is it about Bag Wells?

1:07:35

Goddamn. Social. Circle. Just.

1:07:38

Fucking. He. Shoots his father

1:07:40

is is a his parents lose

1:07:42

all their fucking money. Is.

1:07:45

X Tag team partner is sleep when

1:07:47

it is fucking car. So.

1:07:50

They're all at Dallas Pets Dallas page

1:07:53

Must have the. Patience.

1:07:55

Of a saint. Said.

1:07:58

the amount of free

1:08:00

publicity. Let

1:08:04

me ask you a question, Brian. As

1:08:06

one grown adult, and I asked everybody

1:08:08

out there in the cult of Cornet,

1:08:10

as one grown adult

1:08:12

to many, how much

1:08:15

money could it possibly be worth

1:08:18

to take in over and over

1:08:21

drunken, drug addicted, fucking

1:08:24

pains in the ass and

1:08:26

attempt to reform them? How

1:08:29

far does human compassion go? If

1:08:31

you've got that much, get

1:08:33

in the goddamn line of work of

1:08:36

helping sick and crippled children.

1:08:38

Is crippled a bad

1:08:40

word these days? Handicapped, handicapable, whatever

1:08:42

you're supposed to say. Help

1:08:45

small children, maybe

1:08:47

homeless animals, but

1:08:50

drunken fucking pillheads that

1:08:53

have fucked their own lives up on

1:08:55

numerous occasions despite what everybody else has

1:08:57

asked him to do. How

1:09:00

the fuck, how many can he take in?

1:09:02

I would have cut my fucking throat after

1:09:04

three days of the first one. I'm

1:09:07

just being honest. Is anybody gonna

1:09:09

goddamn be mad at me for being honest? Who

1:09:11

out there among you would

1:09:14

take these motherfuckers into your homes

1:09:17

without counting the

1:09:19

silverware and still have

1:09:21

a life worth living? What

1:09:24

the fuck? As

1:09:27

you said, he's obviously a very patient man. Patient

1:09:29

man. So

1:09:31

everybody puts Marcus over as

1:09:33

a person and that was the end of

1:09:36

that show. But

1:09:39

gee, money, Christ on a cracker.

1:09:41

What is wrong with these people? Why would any

1:09:44

of the people that sat down and I

1:09:47

understand Slick Johnson or the people telling

1:09:49

the stories about, but why would anybody

1:09:51

in this family or that

1:09:54

sat down to tell these things,

1:09:57

admit to these things? Even

1:09:59

the ex- who were like, yeah, I

1:10:02

still care about him. He

1:10:04

fucked you around in ridiculous ways. He

1:10:06

was a prick and an idiot

1:10:09

and a fucking egomaniac and a goddamn

1:10:11

drug addict and a drunk and a

1:10:13

cheater and a male whore, but

1:10:16

we love him. So

1:10:18

I guess the point is if

1:10:20

you're a single man, go move

1:10:22

there. Go move there. And he

1:10:24

blew numerous opportunities and

1:10:26

numerous things, which apparently is a

1:10:28

pattern of his family who blew

1:10:30

numerous opportunities. This fucking redneck

1:10:33

old caved in faced father was

1:10:35

a self-made multimillionaire that had a

1:10:37

lumber yard that employed 250 people

1:10:43

and they end up broke on a fucking street.

1:10:46

It wasn't 250 million people. I

1:10:48

said 250 people. Oh,

1:10:50

I heard 250 million. Did I say 250 million?

1:10:53

250 million. A self-made millionaire that employed 250

1:10:55

million people. A

1:10:58

million was on my mind. All

1:11:01

right, well, that was the Buff Bagwell

1:11:03

story. Quite enjoyable. Right, thanks, Missy, for

1:11:05

getting this fucking guy into business and

1:11:07

even said he was surprised that he

1:11:10

didn't kill somebody numerous

1:11:12

times when he was in the process of

1:11:14

running his car into various shit and almost

1:11:16

killing himself. Missy

1:11:20

did us all a favor. Once

1:11:22

again, the question that we asked last time, is this really

1:11:24

the dark side of the rear or is this just Wednesday

1:11:26

in Georgia? I

1:11:28

think this is... I

1:11:31

can't say it's unheard of in Georgia, but

1:11:33

it's definitely in the upper percentile when you

1:11:35

take in everything as a whole. All

1:11:39

right, well, maybe

1:11:42

Tootie Badwell will shave that

1:11:44

hole for you. I was about to say, apparently,

1:11:46

a lot of things have been taken in these

1:11:48

holes in this program. Well, Jim, perhaps someone watched

1:11:50

this episode of Dark Side and they said, "'Ew,'

1:11:54

and they wanted to call someone up and spread

1:11:56

the disgust. You probably need a good...

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You probably... need a good phone plan. You

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probably need a good plan for a good segue. I'll

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tell you if you want to get on the telephone

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and call somebody about

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what are the new nominees to the

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Hall of Fame or anything like that,

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you can't get on your telephone and

1:12:16

call somebody unless you got a

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phone plan that you can rely on and that

1:12:21

you can afford. Brian, I think those are two

1:12:24

things that we can all agree on. You got to be able

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to rely on something, you got to be able to afford it.

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I guess. Well, I'm not too grand then. But

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they got the nation's largest one,

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it's the biggest one, it is

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a big blue vein throbber of

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it come with unlimited talk and

1:13:04

text and high-speed data. Now,

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I know you talk on a phone, I know

1:13:08

you text on a phone, I'm not sure what

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kind of data the phone needs, maybe some

1:13:13

way to get you out of jail or crucial

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daily life. But Mint Mobile is going to

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then the people at Mint Mobile, they

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one of these big towers to the other but

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down low where nobody notices it and that's what

1:13:49

your phone calls are running through. No, that is

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not what your phone calls are running through. They

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do not use coaxial cable like

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it's 1986 to steal,

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they're not stealing anything. They do not

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use any cables. Yeah, well now you're changing your

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story. I'm not changing my story, I'm modifying my

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story as we're going. If

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they don't use the coax to steal the service, then

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what do they use to steal the service? This is

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not that story, this is the revised edition. What I'm

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and they hop on those signals, and either way, you

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You won't do that, however, that's a funny

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you can get... I mentioned $15 a month, Brian.

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And you can get the plan shipped to your door

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for free. They got a guy

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named Ethel. You know why they

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call him Ethel? I

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do not know, no. I don't either because I'm meant

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to say a girl named Ethel. They got a girl

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named Ethel. It sits there and writes this

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keep the cost down. She writes

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right out to you and it's free. That's

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not how it works, but... It's sort of a

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Don La Pray deal. It's not

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in any way like a Don La Pray

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deal. Let's stress that. Well, you

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can... Again, $15 a month. You

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got to expect some changes from

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a normal operation here, but if

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even think anybody can talk that much to

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get their money's worth out of this, for

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code Jim slash JCE?

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Well, Jim, let's brighten things up and move on

1:17:42

from the dark side to... I have a story

1:17:44

here from the real news from not that the

1:17:47

Bagwell family news isn't real news, but the real

1:17:49

news, something from a real newspaper, something happening in

1:17:51

the real world. Yes, what would

1:17:53

that real thing be? I have

1:17:56

a headline here. Polio Paul,

1:17:58

Alexander. Alexander,

1:18:01

who spent 72 years inside

1:18:03

Iron Lung, dead at 78,

1:18:05

and it is believed that he

1:18:08

is the last known person, I guess

1:18:11

not believed, he is the last known person living

1:18:14

in an Iron Lung. And we always

1:18:16

reference it talking about, you talk about it with Chief J.

1:18:18

Strongbow, and here it is, the last

1:18:20

known user living... From

1:18:23

such a thing? Yeah,

1:18:26

the last person living inside an Iron Lung. This

1:18:29

will never be used again more than likely. What

1:18:31

do you think? Well, the

1:18:33

irony. The irony is the

1:18:35

whole thing that the last guy to

1:18:38

be put in an Iron Lung outlived

1:18:40

Chief J. Strongbow. That's

1:18:42

the irony of the whole thing. And for those of

1:18:44

you who do not know what the fuck we're talking

1:18:46

about, but a bunch of people tweeted me about this

1:18:49

also and had the picture of the guy

1:18:51

smiling there in his Iron Lung, whenever

1:18:56

J. Strongbow would criticize

1:18:58

a bad match or the match sucked or

1:19:00

whatever, they say, he could have held that

1:19:02

match in an Iron Lung. And

1:19:05

one time we were having

1:19:07

a meeting and Strongbow

1:19:10

wasn't even there. It wasn't even there.

1:19:13

But it was like somebody, maybe it

1:19:15

was Bruce or just anybody mocking

1:19:17

him said, oh, they could have held that match

1:19:20

in an Iron Lung. And Vince turned around and

1:19:22

said, what the fuck does that even mean? And

1:19:26

nobody ever knew really, but he

1:19:28

was famous for it. And

1:19:32

if you've got the article in front of

1:19:34

you, they don't use these things anymore. They

1:19:37

were for people with some difficulty

1:19:40

breathing, they would slide you in this

1:19:42

thing and literally you had to stay

1:19:44

in it because it breathed for you.

1:19:46

Or what is the past tense of

1:19:49

breathe? Breathed for you? Breathed

1:19:52

for you? So

1:19:57

you had to lay in this fucking thing and now

1:19:59

they quit. Obviously, this is the

1:20:01

last guy, but did this guy

1:20:03

have an option of getting out of this fucking

1:20:05

thing? What do they have now? A gravel pack

1:20:07

or an implant? Or how do they do it now

1:20:09

instead of the iron lung? I

1:20:12

don't believe there was any option for him. He had to

1:20:14

live in there. There was no option for him at this

1:20:16

stage of his life. Well, how did they get everybody else

1:20:18

out of one? They died. Oh.

1:20:22

Well, I guess that'll do it. Alexander.

1:20:25

Polio Paul Alexander. I hate the

1:20:28

fact I gave him any Polio

1:20:30

Paul. Polio Paul? Okay, apparently Polio

1:20:32

would play a part in this

1:20:34

somehow. He contracted Polio in

1:20:36

1952 when he was six years

1:20:39

old and living with his family

1:20:41

in suburban Dallas. Here's a quote. I

1:20:44

lost everything. The ability to move.

1:20:46

My legs would not hold me up. And

1:20:49

then I couldn't breathe. He

1:20:51

was rushed to the hospital and placed in an

1:20:53

iron lung in which he would

1:20:55

remain for the rest of his life. Wow.

1:20:59

An airtight capsule that sucks oxygen

1:21:01

through negative pressure, allowing

1:21:03

the lungs to expand and

1:21:05

the patient to breathe. Wow.

1:21:09

Laying on his back. Yeah. In

1:21:13

a inside a metal apparatus for

1:21:15

72 years. The

1:21:19

ventilators, which were invented in the twenties,

1:21:22

lined hospital wards amid polio outbreaks that

1:21:24

plague the U.S. until the second half

1:21:26

of the last century. In

1:21:29

1959, 1,200 Americans relied on an iron lung to stay

1:21:31

alive. But

1:21:36

the machines gradually became less common

1:21:38

after widespread distribution of the polio

1:21:41

vaccine. In 1979,

1:21:43

the U.S. was declared

1:21:45

Polio free. And by 2014, there were

1:21:47

only 10 Americans left using an iron lung.

1:21:52

So there's a little bit

1:21:54

of the background for you. Well, how long

1:21:56

is it going to be before it comes

1:21:58

back with all these anti-vaccine nuts? The Don't

1:22:00

Wear My measles is back in Florida.

1:22:03

If. A disease can grow. it's got plenty of

1:22:05

places to do it down there. O

1:22:08

L on cigarette before we have put up

1:22:10

with polio because all these fucking crackpots don't

1:22:12

want to give their fucking kids shots. While.

1:22:15

We shall find out that was the i

1:22:17

just assume the but arms are have a

1:22:20

happy news but are the rest of polio

1:22:22

Paul though on get not have a fucking

1:22:24

machine. He. Thinks the last

1:22:26

twenty years is brewing soon. Be. Know

1:22:29

he's living in his own way. A

1:22:31

very. fruitful, Life: He

1:22:33

writes books apparently any, or wrote

1:22:35

books. He. Got a yeah

1:22:38

legal degree of some sorts. What? He

1:22:40

works hard. He joined his life. He.

1:22:43

Was younger, I'm sure he would have embraced video

1:22:45

games. Would. Add that

1:22:47

Go inform wouldn't have wouldn't What does

1:22:50

he do to operate a video game?

1:22:52

He has a sister. They said your whole bought

1:22:54

me. A.

1:22:57

Sea of what would he have done to operate

1:22:59

video game I should say. or what does he

1:23:01

do to operate anything. He.

1:23:04

Graduated with a juris Doctor from the University

1:23:06

of Texas at Austin Law School in Nineteen

1:23:08

Eighty Four. He subsequently

1:23:10

went on to open his own law

1:23:12

practice. What? He spent decades

1:23:15

working in the legal field. And

1:23:17

was eventually able to leave the

1:23:19

Iron Lung for minutes at a

1:23:21

time minutes after learning how to

1:23:23

frog breeze. I

1:23:25

do. I don't even know if I would ask but is

1:23:28

there are. Additional details to

1:23:30

fraud breathing. There's nothing here.

1:23:33

I don't know where frog breathe. How

1:23:35

do you open idol law practice? Would

1:23:38

you can't leave your machine except for

1:23:40

minutes at a time? eventually? When.

1:23:42

You're Ago and Twenty Twenty published his

1:23:44

memoir. Three. Minutes for a

1:23:46

dog. My. Life in an iron

1:23:49

will focus. Of

1:23:51

Us forces would set up.

1:23:55

Swagger? Yeah, he's a got

1:23:57

about a book apparently, which.

1:24:00

Five years to complete. Give.

1:24:02

Him any wrote the majesty of while

1:24:04

confined to the tumbler, some contraption. And

1:24:08

it has year. Ago little stay steady,

1:24:10

one foot in his mouth and as a parent

1:24:12

at the end of it by roller com online

1:24:15

by rubber bands to. And he was used

1:24:17

as a right. And

1:24:20

that's what's a little couple ussr also use that

1:24:22

the strong, the bambee, one of the top, the

1:24:24

drugs. And

1:24:27

he's where. Were. You

1:24:29

gotta admire the perseverance, exactly. There's

1:24:31

always something to live for, That's

1:24:33

the point. To so

1:24:35

you can write your member, our

1:24:37

member, your memoirs with a fucking.

1:24:40

Sticks. Stuck in your fucking yep.

1:24:43

Will. Gym is more stuff to oliver about

1:24:45

away when an awful weight and distribute a

1:24:47

poli a half of us well it's is.

1:24:49

I should give him a nickname like polio

1:24:52

Paul it just isn't the whole thing and

1:24:54

of of farce and satire. Speaking.

1:24:57

Of force and satire. Who.

1:24:59

Gets a more of that with your reviews shortly.

1:25:02

But. Some surprising news broke over the last few days.

1:25:04

I have to get your thoughts on it. Please.

1:25:06

Do Thunderbolt Patterson. Being.

1:25:09

Inducted into the W W E Hall

1:25:11

of Fame. There's. The speech

1:25:13

we need. If

1:25:16

I only had Thai. Stressed.

1:25:18

Cause I'm full. Yeah.

1:25:21

To stay up. I'm full. Of.

1:25:24

Up the here. I

1:25:30

don't. I don't know how to begin this.

1:25:33

Is because. How

1:25:38

do you begin this? He never

1:25:40

worked a day for Vince Mcmahon. Or

1:25:42

Vince Mcmahon. Senior.

1:25:45

Or the Wwf. Be.

1:25:50

A own aim, nation wide

1:25:52

basis was not. I don't

1:25:55

think ever in the top.

1:25:58

Pecking. Order of. You.

1:26:01

Know global stars the folks. the

1:26:03

brisk goes the A A whatever.

1:26:05

I'm. This

1:26:08

is. You

1:26:10

can't really. Say. It any other

1:26:12

way than. It is that he

1:26:14

did for demand because he's black and

1:26:16

they need to fill that quota and

1:26:18

somebody had this idea is a I

1:26:20

mean it. Isn't. That just being

1:26:23

honest. That. Is what I

1:26:25

think a cynic would. See. Or

1:26:27

say others. Where I am. Others would

1:26:29

say W W E is honoring a.

1:26:32

Trailblazing! Wrestler who's super over everywhere

1:26:34

he went and of course. His

1:26:36

battles with management's. Open

1:26:38

the doors to. Wrestlers. Becoming

1:26:40

multi millionaires. And

1:26:44

I'm sorry and I quality all throughout

1:26:46

wrestling Why I'm so. I.

1:26:50

I was gonna raise a flag

1:26:52

and and put an asterisk next

1:26:55

to over everywhere he was are

1:26:57

everywhere he be went. With.

1:27:00

Any got into to that. Oh

1:27:02

I'm. In. Not a Thunderbolt.

1:27:05

Patterson for a period of time

1:27:07

was incredibly over in the places

1:27:09

that he went because he really

1:27:11

only went to the places that

1:27:13

he was going to get over.

1:27:17

And. You. Cannot deny

1:27:19

his appeal to the people in

1:27:21

Georgia. He. Had a big

1:27:23

runs in the Carolinas in the.

1:27:26

What? Late sixties, early seventies and

1:27:28

pressure was. Oh. I'm. In

1:27:31

the Sheik use the very well and he

1:27:33

was on top in Detroit for a a

1:27:35

period of time. And.

1:27:38

Is that the key was all of

1:27:40

those. All.

1:27:42

Those territories. All those areas

1:27:44

had heavy African American populations.

1:27:47

Thunderball, Patterson could talk,

1:27:49

especially to his audience.

1:27:52

He. Could talk. I'm in the building. Because.

1:27:55

He seemed real with his attitude

1:27:57

and the way that he. is

1:28:00

especially in the early years, toward

1:28:03

the end, I think it almost became

1:28:06

a caricature where he was relying on

1:28:09

the stuff too much, if

1:28:11

I only had time. But

1:28:15

there was a time where he could be incisive in

1:28:18

his way with a promo. In

1:28:21

the ring, I didn't

1:28:26

see him personally until the late 70s.

1:28:30

But from everybody that ever worked with him that

1:28:32

I've talked to or the impression amongst the boys

1:28:34

was, it was kind of like, handsome Jimmy

1:28:37

Valleid in the 1970s was a dynamic heel and

1:28:42

he took big bumps and backdrops

1:28:44

and slingshots in and he

1:28:46

was a wow, boom, boom, boom. But by

1:28:48

the 80s, in his 40s, if

1:28:51

you had the Boogie Woogie Man match, then

1:28:55

you could have a match with Jimmy

1:28:57

because he had talked himself incredibly over.

1:29:01

But if you didn't have the Boogie Woogie

1:29:03

Man match, it was brutal. And if you

1:29:05

didn't have the Thunderbolt Patterson match, it was

1:29:07

brutal because his shit didn't

1:29:09

look that fucking good. He had to

1:29:12

be over to get away with it. You

1:29:14

see what I'm saying? Like the

1:29:16

old Steve Austin stomping the mud hole in the guy

1:29:18

in the corner. And

1:29:21

when he came to Tennessee, it

1:29:23

didn't translate because he

1:29:26

just spent a brief period of time here but then I

1:29:28

think it was 1978, 79. He

1:29:36

hadn't had the weeks

1:29:38

and weeks and weeks of a concerted push

1:29:40

in his prime which was what, late 60s

1:29:43

through mid 70s. And

1:29:47

it just didn't work in a few

1:29:49

places but the places that it worked,

1:29:51

he stayed in specifically Georgia where he

1:29:53

lived and

1:29:56

then the dressing

1:29:58

room scuttled but as

1:30:00

they said in those days, was

1:30:03

that he got

1:30:06

mad whenever they would say thunderbolt,

1:30:08

whenever they'd give him his notice

1:30:10

or didn't have anything else for

1:30:12

him in Georgia anymore, he'd

1:30:15

get mad and either

1:30:17

try to run opposition or sue. It

1:30:19

wasn't like... I don't think

1:30:21

it was just when he was given notice. That's, I

1:30:23

don't, I don't know about that. Well, not when

1:30:25

he was, when he was given notice or when

1:30:27

they just weren't using him because how, you know,

1:30:29

how much can, how long,

1:30:31

right? Is it time to do something

1:30:34

else? But that's what

1:30:36

everybody, he would either sue or run

1:30:38

opposition because he did both at various

1:30:40

points. Well, actually, and I have a

1:30:42

lot of the paperwork and the flyers

1:30:44

and everything. Him and Jim Wilson would

1:30:46

together do stuff in Georgia at opposition.

1:30:48

And at least once

1:30:51

before the show actually ran, after building

1:30:53

it up, even on TV, they

1:30:56

hired Thunderbolt back. So Jim

1:30:58

Wilson lost Thunderbolt for the show. Thunderbolt

1:31:00

was back working for Georgia Championship Wrestling. Well,

1:31:03

and see that lost Thunderbolt a

1:31:05

lot of credibility also because aligning

1:31:08

himself with Jim Wilson, because even

1:31:11

if you want to believe

1:31:14

the reason why the Thunderbolt

1:31:17

Patterson was never made world champion or

1:31:20

paid on the level of the traveling,

1:31:22

you know, national all-stars

1:31:24

is because he was black, which

1:31:26

was his, you know, his story

1:31:29

and he was sticking to it for quite some time. Jim

1:31:33

Wilson's story was

1:31:35

completely preposterous that he

1:31:38

would have been the NWA world champion if

1:31:42

he, if he had succumbed to Jim

1:31:44

Barnett's advances. People

1:31:46

had seen Jim Wilson. Jim Wilson

1:31:49

couldn't work and couldn't talk him in the

1:31:51

building. And they

1:31:53

made him a wrestler in Florida and Georgia, as

1:31:55

we talked about, because he'd been a football player

1:31:57

there and had a name there. But

1:32:00

he wasn't ready to go anywhere else and he wasn't even

1:32:02

ready to be in Georgia. But

1:32:05

his ridiculous

1:32:08

claim made,

1:32:10

you know, because Thunderbolt aligned with

1:32:12

it, eh, you know, and

1:32:14

then I've got

1:32:17

some of the flyers also. What was it?

1:32:19

Thunderbolts group he was going to run was

1:32:21

the IWL, International Wrestling League. Was that it?

1:32:23

I think so. Yeah. Um, what

1:32:27

he did was he knew

1:32:29

that he believed he could still draw,

1:32:31

and this was 19, what, 81, 82-ish? He

1:32:36

believed he could still draw his audience

1:32:38

in Georgia. But the

1:32:41

times had changed. The fans had moved on

1:32:43

to all the new stars. And at the

1:32:45

same time, the city auditorium was closed.

1:32:47

It was gone. So

1:32:50

he didn't really have his fan

1:32:52

base in place. And they, they

1:32:55

put up a stink and

1:32:57

actually got a date at the Omni. And

1:33:01

I've got the flyer where they were

1:33:04

talking about, I can't remember the names,

1:33:06

but you can meet such and

1:33:08

such a local civil rights

1:33:10

leader, right? And

1:33:12

he hired every or booked every

1:33:15

black wrestler that he could find, whether they'd

1:33:17

been in the territory or not, a lot

1:33:19

of them lived around there, whatever. And

1:33:23

thinking he was going to get his fan

1:33:25

base back. Well, the, again, the fan base

1:33:27

that had loved Thunderbolt had

1:33:29

been 10 years previous and the city

1:33:31

auditorium, and they were gone. And

1:33:34

anybody that wanted to meet the civil rights leaders

1:33:37

in person probably didn't want to go to a

1:33:39

wrestling match, right? And they're running a 16,000 seat

1:33:41

building. And it, I

1:33:44

don't know if it actually came off. If it did,

1:33:46

I'm sure it died from the lineup

1:33:48

and the fact that they had no television or

1:33:50

anything else. Let me

1:33:52

jump in there as you're ripping Thunderbolt. Fantastic

1:33:57

interview in the sense that. Whatever

1:34:00

he said or didn't say or the

1:34:03

way he moved influenced

1:34:06

others but also connected

1:34:08

in a weird way or

1:34:10

connected with people because you

1:34:12

watch those interviews, they're like favorites

1:34:14

amongst people who used to trade tapes because they

1:34:16

didn't really go anywhere. It

1:34:20

was an amazing way to display

1:34:22

your charisma but never

1:34:25

actually say anything. Yes.

1:34:28

Ever. But you remember that the

1:34:30

person was talking. But

1:34:32

that's the thing is he did more talking

1:34:34

early on until he got over but those are

1:34:37

the things that people got a kick out of

1:34:39

and he began doing a lot more of that

1:34:41

and less of the coherent shit in between. But

1:34:44

never let go. He was massively over it. He

1:34:46

was a big draw. Did

1:34:50

he have a big impact on

1:34:52

the southern territories? I think he had a couple

1:34:54

runs in Florida too. I'm pretty sure he did. He

1:34:56

might have gone to Texas. He

1:34:58

did. Yes, he did. He was actually in Texas. He

1:35:00

had a good run there in the early 70s, maybe 71, 72. And

1:35:04

that's when he had a great body and

1:35:09

also the weird way of

1:35:11

working that when he was younger and he

1:35:14

could put everything into it but

1:35:16

I saw him like I said in the declining years

1:35:19

that he had trailed off and

1:35:21

most of the time Oley liked

1:35:24

him and would book him more often

1:35:26

than not and that he'd get mad

1:35:28

at Oley and then try to run

1:35:30

opposition or sue again. So really

1:35:33

his run as a

1:35:37

top main event guy in the wrestling

1:35:39

business was probably curtailed

1:35:41

earlier than it would have been

1:35:44

just by the fact that he either ran opposition

1:35:47

or sued and people didn't want

1:35:49

to fucking deal with that. So especially

1:35:51

if they didn't want to leave Georgia. That's where he wanted

1:35:53

to stay and work. And he didn't want to leave Georgia.

1:35:56

Again a lot of the guys it came off to

1:35:59

them. fucking spend hardly any time

1:36:01

around it. But it came off to a lot of

1:36:03

the guys like he wanted Georgia

1:36:05

wrestling to be booked around him, you know,

1:36:08

and he'll just be the guy and the

1:36:10

time had passed. And, but

1:36:13

by 85, you know, with Oley, that was

1:36:15

pretty much his last, last

1:36:17

run, right? Timeline wise, cause

1:36:19

he was still there when they made, when Crockett got

1:36:21

the time slot, cause that's when they finished up the

1:36:24

thing with the Anderson brothers and Thunderbolt where Oley turned

1:36:26

on him. Were you there? Did you guys

1:36:28

overlap at all? I said, we, at that

1:36:30

time, not in 1990, but then no, I

1:36:33

think we, oh, I forgot about Oley brought him back in

1:36:35

1990 for a minute. Didn't he? He

1:36:37

was a manager. That was really the famous, I'll see if I can

1:36:39

pull up the promo. Hold on. Okay. But

1:36:41

I'll answer your other question. Yes. I think he

1:36:43

was still at some of the shows. I, you

1:36:45

know, uh, when we were coming in, as he

1:36:48

was going out, I believe if I remember, but

1:36:50

then again, I'd forgotten about

1:36:52

the thing in 1990, uh, we're only booked

1:36:57

him to come in because once again, he

1:36:59

had the reputation of being able to talk,

1:37:02

but that was predicated on that. He had

1:37:04

as a young man and when they had

1:37:06

a push was on weekly television, being able

1:37:08

to do his shit week after week and

1:37:11

be in the ring and get, and so

1:37:13

when you bring him back to an audience that had

1:37:15

never seen him and at

1:37:18

that point he's trying to talk,

1:37:21

it didn't translate if

1:37:23

that makes any sense. Well, let's go to this and

1:37:25

there's actually another one here. I'm tempted to click. It

1:37:27

says the best of Thunderbolt Patterson from I'm

1:37:29

dying to see what that is. But here is a video

1:37:32

on YouTube is Thunderbolt Patterson makes

1:37:34

threats. I think, but

1:37:36

here's from 1990 talking about Ole Anderson. You tell

1:37:39

me what you think. Championship.

1:37:41

Right. That gave me the opportunity

1:37:43

again to keep my

1:37:45

balls on the only, you have

1:37:47

ruined folks live, not talking about

1:37:49

how you dealt with mine in

1:37:51

the past, but in the reason,

1:37:55

you have been getting on everybody's teeth.

1:37:57

So this Sunday. If

1:38:00

you move. If

1:38:03

you alone. I

1:38:06

am. Boy is you

1:38:08

know this is. One.

1:38:14

So I'm. Saying

1:38:19

months. As

1:38:22

they see as though be

1:38:25

a sense. There will

1:38:27

be attorney's. Already

1:38:30

been me? Somebody.

1:38:35

Somebody. Or

1:38:42

that to see now. And.

1:38:46

Again, I don't

1:38:48

know. Truthfully,

1:38:51

Whether Thunderbolts stole.

1:38:54

You better call somebody from early

1:38:56

early stolen from Thunderbolt because they

1:38:58

were. In. The same generation there

1:39:00

when Thunderbolt would have been started to get

1:39:02

over and already would have been started be

1:39:04

of a big he'll but. There.

1:39:07

Was basically it yeah, better

1:39:09

co somebody. Let

1:39:12

your mama know. I.

1:39:14

Am looking forward to this speech or you

1:39:16

couldn't believe. Well. That's because

1:39:18

of how old is Thunderbolt now? Start.

1:39:21

Of the eighty rise in that range and

1:39:23

wouldn't would will that he was. Again,

1:39:26

you I don't know when it debuted don't

1:39:28

know that much about his early life, but

1:39:30

he was. Restarted the

1:39:32

mid late sixties. And

1:39:34

had a heck of a body wouldn't know

1:39:36

a new teenager eighty two years. Oh My.

1:39:39

God. But. Yes,

1:39:41

it, and. That's. The thing.

1:39:43

And that's what I'm wondered about. The

1:39:47

Appeal of Thunderbolts. Lasted.

1:39:50

Longer than the actual ability of

1:39:53

Thunderbolt It when he will is

1:39:55

in that. In. That pocket that

1:39:57

we talked about in those territories that he was

1:39:59

me Sibley Ovary And and he was young and

1:40:01

he was due on it. But.

1:40:03

It drooped off and then. Except

1:40:07

for only Anderson. Nobody would book

1:40:09

him after Nineteen Eighty Three. And.

1:40:12

And. It was. it was is it,

1:40:14

had a hard time translating. Even.

1:40:17

Thirty years ago. so I don't know what we're going to

1:40:19

get now. But. Have. We ever seen

1:40:21

him try to be normal. On. Tell him

1:40:23

he is there. A normal thunderbolt. And

1:40:25

then we see the normal thunderball. That that is

1:40:27

his normal. Well. It'll

1:40:30

It'll be interesting what time I wonder if

1:40:32

they're going to have a time clock on

1:40:34

on guys again this year. The.

1:40:36

Out I think there's any time cause

1:40:38

I can stop tables. On

1:40:41

A and you know got something to say. It

1:40:44

is easy but if he only had time.

1:40:47

Will. Have they tell him you got time? I don't

1:40:49

know what he might say. That.

1:40:51

That was it. Forever. But you don't know what we're

1:40:53

talking but also just real briefly. that was the fuck

1:40:56

and rear been. I've told you before, They.

1:40:58

Told Thunderbolt only told him said go out

1:41:00

there at the end of the Georgia show

1:41:02

on Saturday night on Tbs. Club.

1:41:05

Carrollton, Georgia we're going be and

1:41:07

Carrollton, Tonight. right? Just say

1:41:09

the name of the town. And. Make

1:41:11

sure you make we're going to be there Night will draw

1:41:13

big house we don't talk about it. Would.

1:41:16

Never draws. So.

1:41:18

At the end of the thing is the end of

1:41:20

the interview, the last twenty or thirty seconds the show.

1:41:23

So. Double said and in admit tell

1:41:25

you this. And

1:41:28

he made his faces and he reached his

1:41:30

hands up when he screwed his face up.

1:41:32

but he turned his neck and he sits.

1:41:35

If I only had time, And

1:41:37

then they went off the air. B

1:41:39

a girl than a night as if. They

1:41:43

are. Before we wrap this up, The

1:41:45

video here I'm curious to hear. this is

1:41:47

must be. Seventy. Nine or

1:41:50

eighty Georgia. Ernie. Lad

1:41:52

trashes Thunderbolt Paterson. Oh my god what's your

1:41:54

the we always love on a lot on

1:41:56

the show as are some money Lad. Bomb.

1:41:59

As in a hurry. There have had. Read

1:42:02

their Vr graduate good at it was

1:42:04

a dog was a day where they

1:42:06

had but that over Baghdad all feet

1:42:09

up rose up yet but it as

1:42:11

it by they're about as it. but

1:42:13

I am I going to your website

1:42:15

and noise stupid and co is don't.

1:42:19

Forget all about our about

1:42:21

how. Are

1:42:23

ya of your job? Or

1:42:26

yeah, I

1:42:30

know about in order for you on

1:42:32

level and but at all but I'm

1:42:34

I have five yards your bread your

1:42:36

closet suggest that about somebody that are

1:42:38

you you know as about your dad

1:42:40

and my time with kids that were

1:42:43

not have been about had been about

1:42:45

you get out am glad that idea

1:42:47

because you're scared of a and you

1:42:49

gotta get outta here again or does

1:42:51

allied to but I read your life

1:42:53

you're a grip on ebay anymore They

1:42:55

are better when I met up with

1:42:57

our nose with with that with our

1:43:00

noses. At us because we have

1:43:02

our Loews Merseyside virus or that

1:43:04

adds up the dogs and I

1:43:06

feel sorry for your son about

1:43:08

but there's a pay phone the

1:43:10

be a part of southern a

1:43:12

good at it right away as

1:43:14

useless as soon as you're not

1:43:16

and as doorway love we're not

1:43:18

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1:43:20

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1:43:22

my job is that of the

1:43:24

got older gentleman as ah know

1:43:26

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1:43:28

the job that. Voters by

1:43:30

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1:43:32

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1:43:35

would not have a toilet. It is not a dope.

1:43:40

Stuff. Oh.

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A big lad and will welcome

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to the Hall of Fame! Sunder

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