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1:21

of the things we learned over the weekend. And.

1:23

The hard part about analyzing quarterbacks,

1:25

which I think we all know

1:28

why it's so hard, but. Did.

1:30

They get this one right? Well, they're going to

1:32

have a better get a right because it can

1:34

really transform this organization. But. There's

1:36

also it's very difficult so we'll talk about

1:38

quarterback, but also a lot of the other

1:40

draft picks. Some of the thoughts from Sam

1:42

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1:44

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1:47

commander's draft in something she saw behind

1:49

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1:51

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1:53

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1:56

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2:04

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undrafted free agent class will be. They're.

2:27

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2:29

a lot of names or out already. I

2:32

know Sam Hartman received a good bonus. Twenty

2:34

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2:36

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2:38

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2:40

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2:42

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2:45

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2:47

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2:49

guy that they would hope to try and

2:51

develop the way it stands Now I'm would

2:53

have tried to job on. you know. Somehow.

2:56

One way or another. But. Anyways,

2:59

it does. Don't Darwin read too much into

3:01

that? I'm other teams give guys similar voices.

3:03

Was Duffy a high want to be high?

3:05

He would be a priority fridge for them.

3:07

It's about, you know, he was part of

3:09

projected in the seventh round priority free agent

3:11

So that's what he is. and he didn't.

3:13

I sadly force. Meal some up and

3:15

downs, it had no dame I didn't didn't

3:17

think he was quite the quarterback I thought

3:19

he might be when he got there but

3:22

he still worth bringing dead and and he

3:24

be there guy. Just new set of the

3:26

jake from you get the same arguements anyways

3:28

but not again. All those names will be

3:30

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3:32

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3:36

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that. Unpleasant. We wrapped up three days

6:48

of the draft lounge chair. You've.

6:50

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6:52

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6:54

in Detroit with Jay Daniels. You.

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the storage yourself. Answer is Daniel all those

7:00

guys right? Because I and that was interesting.

7:03

So people that read it, it's all about

7:05

how. Quarterback. Evaluation on

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you tube is really advanced

7:09

and it's really educational. And.

7:12

Yet. The. Evaluation a quarterback from

7:14

is the hardest thing, period. and with

7:16

that's about what was that.com. In

7:19

General Sam your take on the

7:21

commanders draft. The.

7:24

Mean it was really

7:26

and encapsulation of computers

7:28

Entire philosophy is t

7:30

didn't try to fix

7:32

everything and most importantly

7:34

he was given be.

7:37

Support. Not to try and

7:39

buy that. I mean, I think

7:42

it's really notable that so the

7:44

first time in. Uniform. For

7:46

his as with what's going on last

7:48

twenty five years this team sore went

7:51

winning off the field so that one

7:53

day soon. They might be able

7:55

to win on the field. And. Is

7:58

hop is funny cause it's always. You

8:00

know, in twenty four, twenty five years,

8:02

it's been since, whatever, Minutes.

8:04

Or they just, we all know what that means

8:06

of course. but it's true And you know, when

8:09

did you. Was. The really surprised

8:11

you and act as not to me based on

8:13

how they are but I was surprised was or

8:15

any surprise at all and the way they approached

8:17

it. Oh. I

8:19

mean, I'm not surprised that this is

8:21

the way that is ownership group. This

8:23

front office kind of when about things

8:25

sports a lot easier to say that

8:27

than it is actually put into practice

8:29

to have the restraint in the discipline

8:31

to approach free agency the way they

8:33

did to look at their draft boards

8:35

when Johnny Newton is falling to them

8:37

and say hey, this is clearly the

8:39

best guy in our board. We should

8:41

take him even though you know we

8:43

now have five defensive tackles we're gonna

8:46

have to get snaps force But that

8:48

I was so good they. Felt like

8:50

that was the movie needed to make. And

8:52

I'm not necessarily. I'm giving them the benefit

8:54

of the doubt right now because they have

8:56

not played a snap. their decisions have made

8:58

sense. It's. Seems. Like they have the

9:01

right people in place. But I do think. You

9:04

know if Jack Daniels takes a lot of

9:06

Sachs as he did in college which we

9:08

all know I think that that people will

9:10

start to question and hate why we're more

9:12

resources not devoted his office of line and

9:14

right now I'm willing to say hey look

9:17

you made a lot a great additions on

9:19

the interior for sure to offer to tackle.

9:21

Remains a huge customer to the season started

9:23

tomorrow during Coleman or Korea's Lucas will be

9:25

a left into While he would likely be

9:27

at rights and people can say oh well

9:30

you know they still have a hard time

9:32

they still have all the way until. Late

9:34

July before training camp starts or to

9:36

make additions. Know it's a yeah, that's

9:38

true, but it's. It's it's it's

9:40

an aberration if you get a guy that

9:43

really is a contributor and a starter. I

9:45

went back and looked actually at during the

9:47

Ron Rivera it happened one time twenty Twenty

9:49

One when they had leno and embargo against

9:51

in San Francisco without abuse. It really only

9:54

happened twice where they got contributors not even

9:56

like solid starters. It was Twenty seventeen, Twenty

9:58

eighteen. The first two years. The rebuild it

10:00

was an office of lime in in a

10:02

in a defensive player of each year they

10:04

got you know guys there but it but

10:06

it wasn't like you know they found this

10:08

on a starting left guard. I believe it

10:10

wasn't when you seventeen boy. It's. Going

10:12

to be an average if they go on to

10:15

hates you know we're going sign with Hi Becky

10:17

In or Donovan Smear for one of these guys.

10:19

Have to be a starting tackle so. This.

10:21

Is a long winded way to say it's.

10:24

I was surprised. At how

10:26

much they stop to it taking guys

10:28

that were elite athletes with high upside

10:30

it late the draft obviously with undrafted

10:32

free agent as well off but I

10:35

do think there are some legitimate questions

10:37

remaining about how they handle this. Was.

10:40

Just as tackle and for it has ask

10:42

but the all line. They did address

10:44

a lot and the O line this off season. With.

10:47

The interior especially. But.

10:49

We all know what people say. oh line, you

10:51

talk and tackles but I you know I would

10:53

know I'm late and pushing back on it. I'm

10:55

clarifying is what you're talking about his tackle and

10:58

I would agree with that. That's where you know

11:00

there. There was such a big run on tackling

11:02

their first in their first round. And

11:04

my understanding is they clearly wanted

11:06

to try. They try to trade

11:08

back in their. Teams. Didn't want

11:11

to move down that far. And. Therefore,

11:13

it left them in a position where

11:15

now you're just gonna take the best

11:17

guys. But. The question still

11:19

remains there. When. I say.

11:22

I'm surprised when I say hey, there's

11:24

restraint here. That's what I'm talking about

11:26

because five tackles went the first eighteen

11:28

picks. Jordan Morgan went to Green Bay

11:30

a twenty five and or Tyler Guyton

11:32

went to Dallas at twenty ninth. And

11:34

when you see that run happening and

11:36

use that, you know whoever they're guy

11:38

was in in that mixture. If you

11:40

say okay, we can't go up to

11:42

us to eighteen to get the Mari

11:44

memes that Georgia kids of would leave,

11:46

went to Cincinnati swinging satellites and to.

11:48

Write like we're going to stay where we

11:50

are. We are. We are not going to

11:52

mortgage the future. I think that's really important

11:54

part of what we're talking about because. I

11:58

think the most important part of this. The

12:00

and right is is the development and the

12:02

growth in the cohesion of their rookie class

12:04

himself. If they show a lot of promise,

12:06

Adam Peters to say okay, I can go

12:08

out, make splashed signings that can make aggressive

12:10

trades have enough they're not see tipsy can

12:12

heal Kind of reconfigure it that way, but

12:14

you still have. Ah, you're full complement

12:16

of twenty five picks give a boatload of

12:19

cap space. I think they're building it the

12:21

right way it seems to me right now.

12:23

Or. And also ill with Coleman's an

12:26

interesting Guy because. Listeners. Tackler

12:28

guard. I. Did talk to ward off

12:30

as of my coach elsewhere who felt like he

12:32

could play tackle these athletic enough. but we gotta

12:35

see it so we don't know. And I know

12:37

Lucas can be a stopgap. Solution.

12:39

There, but you still want a long term solution.

12:41

The other part of that, I don't that we

12:44

don't know yet. Is the impact of

12:46

the coaching and to play? Calling the

12:48

the philosophy of the off and see

12:50

how that you know? dropping a guide

12:52

back seventy time or censor the time?

12:54

Not a great philosophy for a young

12:57

quarterback, so I think they're going to

12:59

flip that a little bit. How will

13:01

that impact everything? But. You still like

13:03

the numbers you know like memoir things out to

13:05

do with the young quarterback, protect and surrounded with

13:07

talent and so we'll see with that and the

13:09

or I don't and it's my anxiety go back

13:11

and look at the draft to same say okay

13:13

at it would set a new who you who

13:15

else was there that he would say you like

13:17

better than him. I'm also a firm believer in

13:19

the way you got a good team is that

13:21

by getting really good players I think new qualifies

13:23

for sure and I think service ddos not a

13:26

guy like that too. But. It's

13:28

still and and. I. Also thought semi

13:30

wondered if they gotta tackle early? Do then

13:32

try to get another tackle little bit later

13:34

to groom for the right side but didn't

13:36

get that done. Overall like what other parts

13:38

of the class had jumped out you. Besides

13:41

that. Our. Lives

13:43

up to you know to put a

13:45

final point on it's with I Am.

13:47

Peters is thinking long term here and

13:49

I saw that particularly in sore going

13:52

professional need. Instead you know into teaching

13:54

talented players experienced players were leaders. You

13:56

seven of the nine tix were team

13:58

captains, some two different, the services Nfl

14:00

Next and stats and the and relative

14:02

athletics Corkscrew to the commanders as the

14:05

most athletic draft classed as a whole

14:07

and the guy to create a relative

14:09

f up of squirts actually tweeted that

14:11

to the players, didn't test for the

14:13

draft if they had to score probably

14:15

even higher. So to me when you're

14:17

building the foundation like what other part

14:20

of the draft busted out. Really,

14:22

it's just like hey, We. Are

14:24

betting on our coaches. We are betting on

14:27

our development system. Speeds were going to take

14:29

good athletes. I think I'm Ah. The

14:31

The Safety from Washington is great

14:34

example. Tempted to dominate Hamptons because

14:36

he is a guy who has you know,

14:38

elite testing numbers you can play line backer,

14:40

maybe some sub packages kiss experience, corners, expense,

14:42

safeties, and even though you know he might

14:44

just be a core special teamer to start

14:46

you're thinking hey, in to three years to

14:49

this guy be a solid. Rotational.

14:51

Peace com and he's really good athlete and I

14:53

think that he of they're going to try to

14:55

have actually made him a contributor to me to

14:57

say the same things. About.

15:00

The Edge rusher. Ah, I'd I'd to

15:02

meet the part of the draft that

15:04

the standout are them. Having

15:06

a clear vision early and taking high

15:08

upside swings late. Right that

15:10

I like Hampton lot I think you to be

15:13

a gotta do to developed into in the box

15:15

safety in a year to can he get to

15:17

that point and it's what level does he get

15:19

to but I'm with you on that. They're also

15:21

was a theme was. Violent. Physical

15:24

Team Leaders: Big.

15:26

You saw that really into the Michigan corners

15:28

of you when you watches tape. even though

15:31

he's really small is much smaller compared to

15:33

other know that's a big foreigner that Dan

15:35

Quinn has a reputation for targeting is more

15:37

outside I'm but it's don't like their nichols

15:39

that you know buffalo Nickel of which I

15:41

believe that the term for use as well

15:44

like the biblical still some that didn't quit

15:46

has done and so ah for hims for

15:48

them to go get a smaller die arm.

15:50

I think that that really stood out to

15:52

me and it appears. Praises ball skills yet.

15:54

Six taxes to hit Six picked last. Year

15:57

to them or return for touchdowns

15:59

on. What are The thing? that

16:01

I was interesting? was kind of a random

16:03

aside by Sandra Still and Luke Mccaffrey are

16:05

guys who have a lot of college experience.

16:08

You're seventeen hundred plus snaps. Puts.

16:10

A lot of that experience a farewell

16:12

experience was a different positions are say

16:14

we're still phone receiver Mccaffrey for quarterback

16:17

so they're getting guys who are experience

16:19

well developed, well rounded football players. Yeah.

16:22

And you know it's funny to the big nickel to

16:24

that's a role that Hampton console as well. Because.

16:26

You can go to that big package and he

16:28

is if you can go cover a tight ends.

16:31

That. Would be a big job you for this team

16:33

and that's we don't know, but I think that's role

16:35

that he could carve out as well, so that's something

16:37

for hims. He. Away well

16:39

as or anything like with with Newton

16:42

video. In

16:44

the would you? what did you take from there?

16:46

obviously best player available? What did you take from

16:48

our. As if

16:50

they use. You. Do

16:52

not just for down live in of take on

16:55

multiple fronts if if they go you know like

16:57

a three for something like that I think that

16:59

you're having. Three defensive

17:01

tackles. John. Allen Drawn Pain and in

17:03

Newton I think that's a lot a quick this is my

17:05

third. You get. The dow and

17:07

in pain to rebound. I think that Newton

17:09

really fits in well as up My god

17:11

I think that you know she was a

17:13

guy that multiple scouts. At least

17:16

told me that he they to see him as

17:18

a starting three technique in this league you know

17:20

right away armed even though he's a little bit

17:22

undersized he had she's creative, he's crafty, he smarts

17:25

what does exist without to me when we talk

17:27

to him was him talking about six you and

17:29

how much film he watches and he was really

17:31

conflict himself which which I thought was her with

17:33

on his arm as you can understand down a

17:36

decent she's gonna be able to know hey these

17:38

are the things I can do, These things I

17:40

can't you and certain standard distances and so. I

17:43

mean I love didn't end up and at

17:45

some point I want to talk about synopsis

17:47

for alla you of my time oh no

17:49

and I like new to like to I

17:51

think I think you can again you can have

17:54

enough good live in and with away Petersburg and

17:56

sepsis good way Quinn like to use guys

17:58

you they want to have makes. The I've

18:00

noticed doubt but really good depth and

18:02

now you have three guys your withers.

18:04

Five. Like you said, But. But

18:06

for Darien has not shown to be a

18:08

pass rusher and Ridgeway as a. He's.

18:11

He's your guys going to eat up the nose

18:13

and in and all that you are there. Same

18:15

with for their and a boat bigger guy So

18:17

this gives you another guy who can pressure the

18:19

passer can with with alan and pain so not

18:21

is another really good one too and I have

18:23

heard a lot of good things about him. And

18:26

he over after the catch. Very good. just

18:28

neocon block and a physical play and you

18:30

saw what peter say about it. Compact comparing

18:32

him to juice use, check and and and

18:34

and kid. as far as the the ability

18:37

did he has not some was you know

18:39

that he's a same. Can. Be the

18:41

same level which is things that he can do.

18:43

So what it What He was a buyer. Who.

18:45

Preferred barely an adult. Last,

18:48

I'm. Like. To post

18:50

cutters ah fei like different teams. Random

18:52

thing since I've spent a couple weeks

18:54

actually in San Francisco In one of

18:56

the stories that I wrote was about

18:58

used because the fullback is endangered species

19:00

there's very very few of them for

19:02

electro fullback screen and you could argue

19:04

the cause you checked is really a

19:06

tight end of the lineup of the

19:08

backfield armpits just not like so I

19:10

ended up watching a lot of cause

19:12

you check tape and and I wrote

19:14

a story about it's com or basically.

19:17

Watching Kyle use check bounced between

19:19

the slots in line backfield twenty

19:22

blocks where he cleans things up

19:24

the way that he understands the

19:26

games on. For. Adam Peters

19:28

who obviously was very familiar with how you check

19:30

having signed him giving part of Frost the Find

19:32

him into a seventeen when. Just

19:35

goes rebuilding for him to throw out. Use

19:37

check as a as a potential comparison in

19:39

the nude if you go watch does not

19:41

take the amount of she bounces between the

19:43

slot in line backfield. If she if she

19:45

could be anything close to use Jack who

19:47

who. Is you know I

19:49

issue? It's probably not as impressive to be

19:52

an all pro. The fullbacks was not that

19:54

many due to the league, but I mean

19:56

a really good football player. Like if she

19:58

can be that guy for you. if you

20:00

can, the a Swiss army knife that you

20:02

can move all over to create match ups

20:04

and and clean things up. That would be

20:06

such a massive. Piece of

20:08

for. This off and

20:10

since. You. Know, I think that. When

20:13

I when I hear those comparisons my mind just

20:16

a this. Is not a fault of out

20:18

of cheaters are so not much. I just

20:20

flashes to Ron Rivera talking about Antonio Gibson

20:22

is Christian Mccaffrey. At

20:25

it's like you know that's not the same

20:27

situation but I can't help but think she's

20:29

optimistic guy at the start of his rebuild

20:32

and still has some block. The visions for

20:34

this for this took off for this mid

20:36

round pick Antonio with a three and best

20:38

not was a Tucson. I'm not saying. That's.

20:41

Exact situations but but it's see ten be

20:43

something like that. Man.

20:45

That would be cool with that would be cool that the up the

20:47

hill. And as

20:49

far as you said, changes things for the

20:52

managers lot of. Playmakers. And

20:54

all that that often the would also does

20:56

here is was Zachary obviously older is had

20:58

some injuries last couple years and he gives

21:00

you another guy who can catch the ball

21:03

and you cannot count on called Turner John

21:05

Bates as a blocker and and Kingsbury was

21:07

of use a lot of twelve person I

21:09

think it was in the last three years

21:11

I'm in Arizona he was in it. I

21:14

think it was top ten in terms of. Well,

21:17

personnel usage so they needed to

21:19

get that guy. but idol is

21:21

the versatility deck. The. That

21:23

comes with him. not position

21:25

flexner sorry, but versatility. ha

21:28

ha. But

21:30

but it is so it is. You need guys

21:32

like that leave and it's really hard to find.

21:35

Tight. Ends who can play out of

21:37

the backfield affectively. You can let him

21:39

up back there for to do it

21:41

effectively as different. Moscow.

21:43

Use Jet if you were going to replace yourself

21:45

What? how would you do it and he was

21:47

at first off your not replacing the I'm playing

21:49

until and forty five years old. I have obsessed

21:51

with that us what you said the only way

21:53

you would do it and I think the with

21:55

Houston did it and the way. That

21:57

a couple on Tuesday to pump. I'm blanking right

21:59

now. It is they got Titans were

22:01

comfortable being in the backfield. it's of this

22:04

is this is exactly that. sort of. It's

22:08

only a kiss. Her

22:12

just. A block.

22:15

It's only a serve. It's

22:18

only a tackle of runs

22:20

Six those are the face

22:22

as well. You

22:26

got this. Adidas,

22:37

Who are watching to go

22:40

on with. The

22:42

most impressive thing to me

22:45

is how how with the

22:47

media in that might be

22:49

like an inside baseball observation

22:51

but like look man I

22:53

was at. The. Red Carpet

22:55

I was at school actually. bookstore on Wednesday

22:57

you get there in there is it like

23:00

a charity of and around a Special Olympics

23:02

football camp but they did Afterwards we talked

23:04

to Jay name's Rob thirty minutes and she

23:06

was there and it was cold and he

23:09

was like culture. We proceed but the mean

23:11

people asked including me you know asked about.

23:14

Top Golf and we asked about the rumors

23:16

they want to play for the Raiders and

23:18

we asked about in all of all of

23:20

the things that have been swirling his agents

23:22

activity on social media and. There

23:24

were some like really awkward random like

23:27

questions that they've got thrown his way.

23:29

Somebody was like is it true that

23:31

you don't like mambo sauce. And

23:33

he was a kind of no idea what

23:35

you're talking about. I've I've never even heard

23:37

of mumbo sauce on. And see just

23:40

as he can't really well in the next

23:42

day he had you know about thirty minutes

23:44

on the red carpet where he was talking

23:46

to differ media and then afterwards. I mean

23:48

look like. When

23:50

the Nfl like when you get drafted. I

23:52

did not realize that rid of the rappaport.

23:54

But after you get drafted you go through

23:57

a car wash of like Nfl business partners

23:59

and you do live streaming. It's weird you

24:01

know hide or whatever you do four minutes

24:03

with what mean of the other brand spreadex

24:06

and brand why and then you know she

24:08

came upstairs to to kind of the media

24:10

really did a press conference for about five

24:12

minutes and then he did. I will say

24:15

it was a hundred. Thirty.

24:17

Minutes Thirty hits with like different

24:19

local Tv stations, podcasts, just you

24:22

know, like the Cbs affiliate and

24:24

blah blah blah and. All

24:27

went last and. I

24:29

just stood there and and watched him and

24:31

I think everybody asked him the same questions.

24:33

what'd you think when you realize the some

24:35

about the top gotham about blob of us

24:38

in cheated. Never seen frustrated.

24:40

He never seemed upset. Seat.

24:42

He was like, personable and like he. He's

24:44

kind of a relatively reserve guy, but he

24:46

was. He was affable, you know, and she

24:48

answered pretty much the same way. Every types

24:50

are just blessed to be gone where I'm

24:52

going. I'm really excited by blah blah the

24:54

things that you heard him and I have

24:56

heard even in his first press conference in

24:58

Washington and so. Those

25:01

things are impressive to me. Ah but I

25:03

don't think that means he will succeed or

25:05

fail as a quarterback right? It's I think

25:08

that suspicious of too. but you don't know

25:10

it sir. Gotta go do it on the

25:12

field. but it is. What I've heard about

25:14

him is is how. The. Oh the

25:16

coaches who have had a people worked with

25:18

him with talk about like maybe being a

25:21

liberal unflappable and that he's always got a

25:23

smile on his face. It really miss touchdown

25:25

smaller space interception smile. Not because he's happy

25:27

to interceptions because I tell you how many

25:29

get it next time. Don't worry, I got

25:31

it. So yeah I just seems like that's

25:33

kind of his nature. I'm also what did

25:36

you learn to just and that story you

25:38

talk to judge yourself. Then Quarterback Schools is

25:40

Daniel privatize? What did you learn? just. An

25:42

evaluation process and why it's so

25:45

hard to get quarterbacks right? So.

25:48

I think everybody understands the quarterback is

25:50

is an inexact science and it's been

25:52

that way forever. even though teams have

25:54

devoted hours and hours and. Spirit.

25:57

Like millions and millions of dollars to

25:59

it's. But the thing that was hard

26:01

for me to understand is okay, why is

26:03

it still that way Even though I feel

26:05

like in the law in a four years

26:07

I've been covering the teams, I have a

26:09

much better understanding of the my new show

26:12

of Nfl quarterback plates or home. Because.

26:14

Of these guys are teacher solvency, single and

26:17

and others in So I went down. I

26:19

went to Court Auto on island across the

26:21

bay from San Diego and spend some time

26:23

with get yourself and and basically if he

26:25

can't showed me his his home office set

26:28

up where he does a lot of his

26:30

videos and he was like look man like.

26:33

Just no one knows. And so the way that

26:35

he does things as he says. I'm

26:37

going to grade the film, I'm just going to

26:39

look at what they did and I've been. I'm

26:41

a Gm job which is when he gets paid

26:43

a ton of money but he also could get

26:45

fired. He has to project and so tricked me

26:47

was a great example is your eye with the

26:50

footwork and your what can he be what's his

26:52

ceiling and he was like. And

26:54

he was like from the tape or the

26:56

I saw. James. Was clearly

26:58

the second best player in Kostopoulos your. but does

27:00

he have the a ceiling to deal with the

27:02

durability bubble? I don't know that I'm not focused

27:04

on that. I'm. But. I think you

27:06

tube. For. So many industries for

27:09

so many different things You know it'll

27:11

teach you. Had a change, the oil

27:13

and your car. you know it'll It'll

27:15

show me like my favorite movie, scenes

27:17

before bed or whatever. Like it, it's

27:19

It's really just revolutionizing deep in the

27:22

sand understanding of the game. And.

27:24

I think that maybe the most notable example of

27:26

that is Katie was really high on just and

27:28

feels super high when he thought he was better,

27:30

a better prospect in the draft and Trevor Lawrence

27:32

and one of the reasons that he has changed

27:34

his methodology to say hey, i'm just focusing on

27:37

the tape is because an experience like that And

27:39

so when she went through and said. Why?

27:42

Is Justin struggling if he was able to

27:44

do our long breakdowns with fans can explain

27:46

to them? So this is why in some of

27:48

it's on and sound, it's on their office

27:50

of system, their coaching staff blah blah but.

27:53

Ah, I just think that like it's fascinating

27:55

to me. We know more about quarterbacks than

27:57

ever and we are no closer predicting pool.

28:00

The animal and also you also had

28:02

a. This. Was kind

28:04

of pressure that you in a quarterback story.

28:07

You. Also. Talked. About pancreatic

28:09

cancer and how there's been advances there. but

28:11

is there any closer to doing that is.

28:13

the point is like does a lot more

28:15

information of stuff out there but you never

28:18

know is so hard. But also I think

28:20

the hard part with quarterbacks this is were

28:22

Washington has to succeed. You. Got the

28:24

guy did you like and you got to guided me

28:26

a lot of people. Pretty. Not

28:28

unanimous of people I talk to you but it was.

28:31

Pretty. Overwhelming in favor of him. Now.

28:34

You gotta make a work. And. So now you

28:36

guys from so that's the other her part

28:38

the quarterback the so much that goes into

28:40

it's that from the of the scheme you

28:42

use to the protects like we talked about

28:45

the line or style of play or in

28:47

overboard just one injury can change it as

28:49

we've seen with other guy. So that the

28:51

hard part to. See. And

28:53

I think that's the thing when I

28:55

talked to a doctor Daniel Jeremiah on

28:58

ominous conference calls and I talk to

29:00

on. An. Analytics guys. Ah,

29:03

whose name is actually Sleep Metal Terrible but

29:05

that what basically the guys photos guy said

29:07

even though quarterbacks are harder to predict than

29:10

ever, it's the league is getting better because

29:12

about quarterbacks standing Jeremiah said he, it's all

29:14

about the supporting cast now you're you're hearing

29:16

last about was this quarterbacks traits and you're

29:19

hearing more about what's the environment we're putting

29:21

them into as as you and I have

29:23

talked about and the analytics guy who wrote

29:25

the Unexpected Points newsletter. I said you're gonna

29:28

plug in that way if I remember Sampson

29:30

and I can member party school having haven't

29:32

called. Chemicals as they used to work at

29:34

Pf apps. Super smart you see says that he

29:37

thinks the league is getting much. Eleven

29:40

when the C B A changed and and

29:43

you got that, you know, snorts, wage scales.

29:45

teams are smarter about taking a ton of

29:47

shots on quarterbacks you even if they have

29:49

smaller resumes, even if they you know I'm.

29:52

Are. From smaller schools and even though

29:54

Zach will soon it'll and and Freelance

29:56

have not necessarily hits. He was a

29:58

it's smart to just. Keep taking shots

30:01

on their position because if you want if

30:03

you get to the zebra we're going to

30:05

to do this week then you have the

30:07

most valuable thing in sports and you have

30:10

him for the next. You're out of a

30:12

quarterback markets takes ten to fifteen years and

30:14

so. On and and

30:16

also they're moving off of them quicker.

30:18

You know it's exact. Wilson isn't succeeding.

30:21

You. Say okay, screw that we go to the

30:23

Air Rodgers. Are we getting get someone else? We

30:25

can't give him for years to prove that, but

30:27

he's not the guy. And so I think both

30:30

of those things. Even though quarterbacks are harder or

30:32

are still possible to evaluate. This,

30:34

The league is doing a better job adjusting

30:36

to that uncertainty. And. I think

30:38

sepsis was a great example of. In

30:41

a you know they didn't go get thirty two they weren't

30:43

so that I don't know what. Ill

30:45

but. You want to get not a young

30:47

guy that much like they signed same harm to

30:49

and as a p have brought part of region

30:51

so and I'll be honest like. I.

30:54

Hope. Sam. Doesn't get

30:56

jealous. Of some of us,

30:58

you know he gets lot of credit for looks.

31:00

I just hope the just I'm just put it

31:02

out there. I don't want me to jealous. That's

31:04

why I'm gonna. I'm going to dress a daughter

31:06

would have that this year. but you know some.

31:08

That. That honors us. A coffin thought

31:11

John Times hair. He has the much as

31:13

lox that same hardened wishes he had. I.

31:15

I wasn't going to say it so just move on

31:17

or I I don't want to get the guys out

31:20

but out of said before he gets here. But but

31:22

today a point like you know they they they were

31:24

aggressive retrain lands. And. Then you get another

31:26

guy you guys you developed because you to get

31:28

gone back to. Even if you think you have

31:30

a guy you still go back to run Whoop!

31:32

The great hall of fame Gm for the Packers

31:34

was always always go get one if you can

31:36

get whatever year get one because it's so hard

31:39

and so important to feel that spot that you

31:41

always and if you and of guy peasant you

31:43

gotta go you can always rate. Of so.

31:47

What do you think? rumble? Of would think of

31:49

paying a quarterback hundred million dollars guaranteed and and

31:51

in a drafting a successor. ah with the A

31:53

topic. That's. A

31:55

bit of a big swing that may be noted that

31:57

Mister Wolf would have taken in the as with a

31:59

pic. And. You know it's funny because

32:01

I understand what they're doing right? Like we see,

32:03

You understand that they want a lot of success

32:06

in here. But. You

32:08

know there's also Parma That in those videos with Terry

32:10

Funk know and Arthur Blank Blank. I don't know if

32:12

he's from, I am. I do like. You.

32:14

Know not sixty years old or home.

32:16

So let's get out. Whatever.

32:19

But with with this team. Where.

32:22

Do you feel you? Last thing? And where do you feel

32:24

the rat? With. Their you

32:26

were added now at another line of

32:28

whatever for the off season. Like the

32:30

Martyrs Whatever it is, Where.

32:33

Do you think the rat now compared to where they

32:35

were three months ago? How. Much bigger

32:37

produces or and or better. On

32:39

it's it's very different. I think

32:41

the floor is much higher. I

32:43

would say that the ceiling is

32:45

still relatively limited and I say

32:47

that because if you're into sports

32:49

gambling which I'm not but a

32:51

lot of people are nowadays. but

32:53

I got a curiosity I checked

32:55

this morning. Ah what? The projected

32:57

when total in Vegas is no

33:00

and most sports book have them

33:02

at six point five wins which

33:04

is tied for the fourth lowest.

33:06

ah with teams like Las Vegas,

33:08

Tennessee, the New York Giants, And

33:10

to me like that's a pretty act like I

33:12

I would say I would probably you know if

33:14

you if you said today example do you think

33:16

they're going to Miami games you can go at

33:18

by promises? Don't like seven Boy. Oh.

33:21

Boy. It's it's different

33:23

in the sense that like. The

33:25

most important thing the season is Jane

33:27

Daniels development and the cohesion of up

33:29

the rookie class around him spans. You.

33:32

Know I think next off season when

33:34

when. At a Peters if all goes

33:36

well next off season at appears will have up

33:38

still lot acids his disposal and he'll push more

33:40

fish chips and of know the table or when

33:43

you say like where are they at right now

33:45

I'm optimistic their trending upward. I think they're building

33:47

a smart sustainable way but I'm I'm not ready

33:49

to to say they're gonna make the playoffs or

33:52

we care and we can't go there without having

33:54

seen as to play on the you know be

33:56

my does the so many questions like there's a

33:58

lot of stuff that I've. It could be

34:00

done but been stopping know what I like?

34:03

Mostly. Is. And in a

34:05

general sense is the structure of the

34:07

organization and at the decision making process

34:09

and the people you have a good decisions

34:11

that to me is bigger than everything

34:13

they've done in the under off on

34:15

the field. Having that cohesion

34:17

or that group. You. Know

34:19

you don't have you Dare Snyder who didn't

34:21

know anything right or thought he did. But

34:23

you know any legit. That's where I think.

34:26

To. Hope lies and that. Triumvirate.

34:29

And then you get to the field. You gotta

34:31

make it work but that's why Think they have

34:33

some hope because if you do the right people

34:35

you get the right people on the field then

34:38

you can go. but it's transcripts When we we

34:40

start seeing what what concede daniels do them will

34:42

get a better idea what you know in terms

34:44

of win totals and all that and but to

34:46

me it's just like you said, it's all his

34:48

growth. Does he look like she can

34:50

be the guy and as do they look

34:52

like they draft to separate places in a

34:55

rural look like the guy think he is

34:57

who can rush the passer lightsaber. Still to

34:59

like that you can blitz off the edge

35:01

to like they've got guys you can now

35:03

blitz and do some things that can add

35:05

to their defense at a little bit and

35:07

your understated at this point. So but yes

35:09

I'm with you on that. I think there's

35:11

reasons for optimism for sure. When they get

35:13

their who the heck knows it starts with

35:15

that should be in the right guy. With

35:18

severely and and one like Nerdy for

35:20

putting that you're missing on a lot

35:22

of guys. I think they can blitz

35:24

off the edge and I think that

35:26

hundred series because if you don't have

35:28

stood edge rushers I wonder what like

35:30

obviously you know. Drink.

35:32

When have Dallas I would obliterate going to

35:34

be obviously like Black Brown Flores, Leicester, Minnesota

35:37

was set records for blitz rates but I

35:39

i i wonder like how often is and

35:41

Dan Quinn you was not that close with

35:43

you to after last year. In terms of

35:45

blitzer, I wonder how aggressive the difference is

35:47

going to be, particularly because the last four

35:49

years we saw them say okay we have

35:51

a great defensive line. We don't really need

35:53

to blitz that much so I'm I'm very

35:56

curious. It's what's his defenses go look like

35:58

but that is a totally nice thirty. But

36:00

we just spent on on that thing which

36:02

I'm sure people don't care that much about

36:04

right now but it but they will and

36:06

the other thing is kinda corners hold up

36:08

that the other big question that we need

36:10

get you. can these outside corners hold up

36:12

with this press style, etc and that's why

36:15

you're gonna try and bring some more pressure

36:17

to your for some distance for some states

36:19

right and. But. You did they did

36:21

at guys who have like again move

36:23

who said we're still I think those

36:25

guys to and can rush from different

36:27

areas and least create more opportunities. For.

36:30

The coaches or or or create a more

36:32

versatile difference in terms of rushing the passer,

36:34

so I guess we're going to be a

36:36

big improvement, but again, But. Sienna feel

36:38

because we've got airborne. Listen to this is

36:40

her like I've heard this before about. of

36:43

the things that's why point you the the

36:45

power structure the Top is doing. Your primary

36:47

reason for after should be he owed. But.

36:50

Even there seemed like we still don't know him, but

36:52

it's just a it's a better setup than Eight had,

36:54

but. I don't know. Are

36:57

now and I think I'm. Like that's

36:59

the thing. Going to the cycle lot like

37:01

surrounded by was the first and I mean

37:03

I cover the charges for one year but

37:05

I covered the whole cycle of Ron Rivera

37:08

right? And so I was just like when

37:10

when Dan Quinn comes in and and she

37:12

puts up by anyone anytime anywhere in in

37:14

the meeting room because it's and I say

37:16

you know but like. Is that?

37:19

Is that credibly different than like don't drop me

37:21

a map unless you been there are be were

37:24

your feet are added to preparation for snow? like

37:26

the gonna win in like that's the whole thing

37:28

up but. But. There is. there

37:30

is optimism now. sayings, our sayings or graders

37:32

for a child not everybody buys into. That

37:34

is still about what you like, the still

37:37

about the staff you provide around that his

37:39

cell about you know all those other things

37:41

and then the sayings can be like okay,

37:43

you can put am I had to do

37:45

whatever but it's still about the actions in

37:47

a meeting rooms. It's about the Akio guys

37:50

coming in early, staying right? Whatever. That's how

37:52

it's going to get done. So we i

37:54

knew the sayings or five and they're nice,

37:56

but we're going to hear the same things

37:58

Recent years, some different things. But

38:00

it's gotta be like you're gonna prove it

38:02

in other ways, not just on the wall.

38:04

So I think I think. They. Know

38:07

that I would hope so. So you're.

38:09

A final thoughts and. Man

38:12

I would say one final

38:15

thought is. It

38:17

is he a was. Promising to

38:19

me that the team obviously did not

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care about public perception terms of drafting

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other often sublime And after they started

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their process that they weren't swede and

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I think that's suspicious and I know

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we've covered that. Yeah, we covered that

38:32

earlier, but I just think that. Focusing.

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Less on what you and I say on this

38:37

podcast is probably good forum. For. For

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the organization and and will help of the

38:42

forward I do not think they are focus

38:44

on the public perception at all. Death a

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welcome change war because for too long to

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make decisions based on that it's just gonna

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go it the hard focus on what you

38:53

feel is best made. Sometimes the public's going

38:55

to be right. but yeah focus on your

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process and your and your how you get

39:00

to your results more than anything else So

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we have any was I could ourselves hundred

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and when I say public so that his

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fans it's it's media fans would have voted

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off. Stay don't pay attention to the noise

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and that's why even with all the top

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call Stop It. Never. Caused. Them

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An ounce of concern is a new

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behind the scenes what was going on.

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So anyone samplings.com and I tell people

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where they can find you. Are

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you planning on tax/twitter at essay on

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the number Forty Are Esam the number

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Washington post.com and by She like I

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plunked like for for stories that have

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been ah so I offer you I

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target women Yeah on Are you go

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back Sam Of course they became. That's

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it for this episode. Thanks to Sam

39:48

for join to be and thank you

39:50

as always. Return it and I'll be

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back. On Tuesday night by thirty pm

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eastern time license shows where my son

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was manners us done.