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Hello and welcome to the John Mark
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Comer Teachings Podcast. I'm Strawn
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Coleman, your host and part of the teaching
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team here at Practicing The Way. Each
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week on the podcast we share a teaching
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from John Mark or other trusted voices in
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the formation space. Today
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we continue our series in partnership with
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Bridgestown Church called 9 Practices for
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a Rule of Life, with
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the return of John Mark to explore the
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practice of community. In
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this teaching John Mark addresses the cultural
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loneliness so prevalent in our time, exploring
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three circles of relationship every apprentice
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of Jesus is invited to live
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in to. As
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you listen you may like to ask yourself the question, how
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am I going with not journeying
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alone? Here's John
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Mark. I'm
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going to read to you from Mark
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chapter 1, and that
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will serve as our jumping off point
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for our teaching today. Mark chapter 1
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beginning in verse 16. As
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Jesus walked beside the sea of Galilee,
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he saw Simon and his brother Andrew
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casting a net into the lake, for
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they were fishermen. Come,
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follow me, Jesus said, and I will
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send you out to fish for people.
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At once they left their nets and followed him. When
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he had gone a little further, he saw James,
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son of Zebedee, and his brother John in a
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boat preparing their nets. Without
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delay he called them, and they left their
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father Zebedee in the boat with the hired
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men and followed him. This is the
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word of the Lord. Good
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morning everyone. Peace
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to all of you. Ah
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gosh, it does my heart such.
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Good. I will discipline myself to not
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talk about two things this morning. One, the
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weather in Southern California. And
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two, just how sappy
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I am and just so much love
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for all of you. T and the kids all send their
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love. Mo is down here in the front row. But
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we miss you terribly this morning. It's not
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about that. It's not about me. But we
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miss you terribly. And it is my honor
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to come back. I hear so
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many good things about you from your leaders. And
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so many good things about your leaders from you. And
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that's the winning combination that is very rare, it
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turns out, in church life. And
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I just love
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what God is working in the soil
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of this community. And
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it was my dream to pass
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the baton when my time was done to
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a leader who would take you into a whole
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new territory that I could never take you. And
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we all live with unfulfilled dreams. And I think
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we'll go to our grave with some. But
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then there are those that come true. And that
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is the great joy of life. So thank
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you so much. That
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guy is just still really good looking. That's
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not intimidating at
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all. Okay. Mark
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Chapter 1. Go ahead and do me
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a favor. Just take a deep, slow,
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belly breath to just center
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your soul before God. I
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find this photograph to be haunting. This
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is the oil tycoon John Paul Getty
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at Sutton Palace,
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his home in the English countryside in
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the early 60s right before his death.
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At the time, the richest man in
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the world. Short version on
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his biography is, he was the quintessential,
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you know, self-made man. But
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the more wealthy man he was, The more wealthy
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and famous and successful he became, the more
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miserly he became. Multiple
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movies have been made about the famous
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story where his grandson was kidnapped and
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he refused to pay the ransom. Apparently,
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with his dying breath, he was complaining
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about medical bills. And
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he just grew more and more isolated.
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His wife wrote... Not making this up.
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His wife wrote a memoir about their
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marriage and titled it Alone Together. Not
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great, you know? Just not a
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great sign. And here
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he is at the climax of his
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life. All
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the money in the world. Sitting
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at the head of a table
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made for fifty. Or innate tapas.
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I mean, literally golden goblets on
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the table. But he is
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all alone. This
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image is like the anti-messianic feast.
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If you're familiar... Yeah. I
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feel the same about my preaching all of the time.
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At least you have a
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way out of it. This
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image is like the anti-messianic feast. If you're
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familiar with that literary motif, running all the
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way through the library of scripture, where
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the kingdom of God is likened to a feast. And this
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is the kingdom like in the fullness of it, down
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the road in the future. And
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at this kind of banquet table, as I
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imagine Abraham at one hand and Jesus at
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the other, and the family
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of God from every tribe and tongue
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and nation at a table set rich
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with food and wine, this
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man would be miserable at the
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messianic feast. Sometimes
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it's helpful to see the concentrated
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form of something in
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order to better understand the diluted
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form. And I
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can't think of a better image to
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capture the concentrated form of one of
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the hallmarks of late capitalist society. what
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the sociologist Robert Bella famously
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called radical individualism. The
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self-made man, and it is normally a man, out
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to conquer the world, and nowadays the world's not
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enough. Where do all the billionaires go next? Space.
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The final frontier for male ego, right
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there. What's
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Elon Musk's life mission? Quote,
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to make human beings an interplanetary
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species. What's your life
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mission? Bella
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called individualism the defining
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trait of America. And
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the dark underbelly of radical individualism is
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loneliness. Now
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you are likely not an oil tycoon, and
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I doubt you eat dinner alone in your
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palace on a golden plate. But
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do you feel lonely?
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Do you ever ache for
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more in relationship? More
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than just colleagues and co-workers
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and friends and running partners,
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but something more. To
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know and be known to have at
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least somebody love and accept you as
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you are and yet call you to
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grow, and
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to give and receive love. And
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yet at the same time, is there some parts
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of you, as there is in most of us,
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that is absolutely terrified of such an
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idea? Do you feel
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that push-pull dynamic inside your own body
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where part of you is drawn toward
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more relationship and the other part of
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you is simultaneously, I
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don't know. If so, you are not alone.
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Part of the pain of the human condition
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is this. It doesn't matter what day and
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age you were born into, whether you have
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a family or you are single, or you
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are an oil tycoon or a barista, all
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of us feel the pain
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of loneliness. In
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the fourth century, St. Augustine, who was the bishop
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of the city of Hippo in North
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Africa, wrote his book Confessions, which
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is arguably the first memoir in history,
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but it's a theological memoir. It's kind
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of reflections on his life through the
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lens of Christian theology. And
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one of Augustine's most insightful contributions
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is his work on loneliness. For
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Augustine, loneliness is the best
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word we have to
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name the felt experience of being
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human this side of the
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garden, being created in the
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image of God and yet cast out
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of Eden. We come
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out of the womb searching
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for love and connection. Experts
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who study attachment tell us that
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our attachment system comes online either
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when we're still in the womb or
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at least the moment we take our
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first breath of oxygen. Look
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at newborn babies. I just... See? Another one
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goes. There it is. I
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just became an uncle. See? That is my nephew walking
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in the foyer right there with the guy that looks
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a lot like me, just a little bit handsomer. That's
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my little brother. I just became
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an uncle again, twice over. And if
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you ever have the gift to be
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in a delivery room, the miracle
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of childbirth, what do infants do?
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Often they come out and as they
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begin to open their raised-in eye, they
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immediately begin looking around
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to make a connection. Dr.
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Kurt Thompson has that lovely
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line, we all are born
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into the world looking for
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someone looking for us. And
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we remain in this mode of searching for
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the rest of our lives. So
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in a way, loneliness
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is the seedbed of all
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spirituality. It's the ache that
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drives you and I out of the prison
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of the self to search for God, ultimately
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the one who is looking for us. Because
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in the core of our being, it turns out, that
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what we all crave is not just friends
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to hang out with and watch
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a new show, not even a
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lover to know and be known by,
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or even a family. We desire more
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than any other human or family, no
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matter how intimate and healthy could ever
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give what ancient Christians call union
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with God. So
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loneliness is just part of what it means to
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be human. Welcome to the
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condition. And we can
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open it up and let it become our
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pathway to God. As
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the Persian poet Hafiz said,
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don't surrender your loneliness so
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quickly. Let it cut
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you more deep. Let
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it ferment. Something missing
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in my heart tonight has
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made my eyes so soft,
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my voice so tender, my need
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for God absolutely clear.
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But that said, the cultural milieu
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we live in, in particular in
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this city, has turned loneliness up
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to a fever pitch. You
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all know the stats, the percentage of Americans who say
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they have no close friends, quadrupled
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between 1990 and 2020. 54%
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of Americans, more than half, say, quote,
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no one knows them well. 36%
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of Americans report they feel lonely frequently
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or almost all of the time. That
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number goes up to 51% for young mothers and 61% for
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young adults. Vivek
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Murphey, the former Surgeon General of the U.S., made
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waves recently when he called
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loneliness a social epidemic, and his claim
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was it's the number one health threat
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in America. The claim is it's
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worse for your health than smoking 15 cigarettes
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a day. And
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it's not just in the U.S. The United
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Kingdom famously appointed a loneliness minister a few
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years ago. Other nations
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have followed suit to attempt to
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heal this wound in the soul
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of our society. Turns
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out, you are a man of the same. You cannot be
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a true original. March to
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the own beat of your own drum. You
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do you. Don't let anybody tell you
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what to do. Speak your truth.
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There's nobody in the world just like you.
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Swipe right. And
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taste the goodness of a quiet
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relational life marked
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by giving and receiving love.
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Is there a practice from
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the way of Jesus to
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live in a thick web of
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loving relationships right in
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the midst of a global epidemic of
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loneliness? Yes, it
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is the practice of community. We
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are working through a rule of life that has
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been seven plus years in the making at Bridgetown
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Church. My heart is full of joy to see
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it unfold in your life. And
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the fourth part of our rule that even though
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I don't live here anymore, I am living by
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and gathering a community in LA around, is this,
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a community of love and depth
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and a culture of individualism
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and superficiality through the practice
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of community. Each
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practice in our rule is intentionally designed
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for what you could call counter formation.
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It's designed to stand against the
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powerful forces inside our own body
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and certainly outside our own body
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and culture all around that
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deform our soul and our
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society over time. We
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named two for this practice, individualism, which
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I just said a few words about,
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and superficiality, which is like a new
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sibling in the anti-family. As
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individualism has been transposed to
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the digital age, we have a new challenge
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where we know more people than ever before.
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Can you imagine most people for all of
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human history were farmers living in villages of
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about 150 people. You did
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not get out much, or if you did, it
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was the same people. Not
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our problem. We know more people than
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ever before. yet our relationships
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are remarkably shallow. Dunbar,
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an evolutionary psychologist out of Oxford, we'll
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talk about him in a minute, basically
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made this famous claim, it's now called the
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law of 150, a lot of sociologists all
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agree with it, that basically the maximum number
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of people that the human person can know
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is around 150. There's a range of about
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120 to 180. Most of you have
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more numbers than that in your phone, in
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your front right pocket right now, set
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aside social media and all of that stuff. And
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so the digital age has traded
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the illusion of connectivity for the
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reality of community. And
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in particular living cities where we're
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surrounded by noise and stimulation and
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people and crowds and transients, none
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of that does anything to touch the ache in
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our heart. It will often make the pain of
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loneliness worse, not better, to be
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alone in a sea of faces. And
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let's be honest, church
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is not often not all that
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different. And
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that's not a slam on church, it's just we
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come here as Americans or whatever you are.
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We don't come here as a blank slate.
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We've been formed since the moment we came
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out of our mother's womb by this cultural
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atmosphere. So we come
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most of us into this room as
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an individual in a crowd, less
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a member in a family and
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more alone together. And
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yet there are a few things, more
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radical, more strenuous
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and more beautiful than
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Jesus vision of and call to
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community. Let's just work through a
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few key passages together from Jesus
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on the call to community. We read one, let's
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just kind of reread it, Mark chapter one, verse
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16 again. And Jesus
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walked beside the sea of Galilee. He
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saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a
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net into the lake for they were fishermen.
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Interesting that the first story about apprentices
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about two brothers, about family. Come,
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follow me, or that can be translated, come,
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apprentice, under me, and I will send you
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out to fish for people. At
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once they, notice the pronoun there is plural,
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they left their nets and followed him. And
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when he had gone a little further, he saw
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James, son of Zebedee, and his brother, another two
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set, John, in a boat, preparing
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their nets. Without delay, he called them. And
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they left their father Zebedee in the
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boat with the hired men, and followed
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him, almost like he is forming a
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new family from
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other families. Notice,
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just very simple, Jesus did
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not have an apprentice singular.
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He had apprentices, plural. He
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called Simon and Andrew and James and
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John, and he called them to join
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his new community and to quote, fish
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for people, meaning to invite others to
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join his new community. Turn
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the page to chapter three, look down at
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verse 13. Jesus
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went up on a mountainside and called to
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him those he wanted, and
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they came to him. Again, all the pronouns
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here are plural. He appointed
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twelve, so this is like a subset
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of the community of apprentices that later
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are named as the apostles. That
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they might be with him and that he might
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send them out to preach and have authority to drive
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out demons. These are the twelve
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he appointed. Simon, to whom he gave the name
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Peter, James, son of
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Zebedee and his brother John, to whom he gave
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the name something, which means sons of thunder, Andrew,
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Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James,
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son of Alphaeus, Thaddeus, Simon
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the Zealot, and Judas Iscariot,
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who betrayed him. Why
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twelve? Have you ever thought about that? Why
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not twenty-one, or seventy is a
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nice number, or a thousand? Because
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this is a highly symbolic
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act. Jesus is
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intentionally naming twelve apostles to
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evoke the twelve tribes of
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Israel. It's Jesus'
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way of saying he is foreign.
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a new family. What
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we call the church is not a building, it's
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not an event on a Sunday morning, or
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a non-profit, it is
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a family. Not based
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on blood, but on
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apprenticeship to Jesus. Look down at verse
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32, just a paragraph down. A
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crowd was sitting around him, and they
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told him, Your mother and brothers are outside
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looking for you. Who are my
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mother and my brothers, he asked? You would think
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that's a rhetorical question, but no. Then
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he looked at those seated in a circle around
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him, he's in the middle of teaching his apprentices,
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and said, Here are my mother
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and my brothers. Whoever does God's
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will is my brother and sister
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and mother. The word
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used by Jesus here is a delphoi
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in Greek, and it literally means sibling.
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Old school translations have brethren. It's kind
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of getting at the right idea, brothers
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and sisters. It comes
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as no surprise that on the writings of the
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New Testament, the word delphoi is the only other
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moniker used just as often as Maphiteis,
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which is the Greek word for disciple
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or apprentice or follower. The
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Apostle Paul, for example, uses it over 130
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times in his letters. Family
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is a dominant theme in the New
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Testament theology. Listen
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to Paul's words in Romans, Chapter five.
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The spirit you receive does not make
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you slaves. That's not the
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right metaphor. Yes, we serve Jesus, but that's
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not the right word picture so that you
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live in fear again. Rather,
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the spirit you received brought
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about your adoption to sonship.
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And the read this in the word
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sonship there is used because you could
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only adopt a male in Greco-Roman society
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adoption to sonship for all. And
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by him we cry Abba,
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Father. One of
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the main ways that Paul and the New
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Testament writers explain Jesus work is through the
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metaphor of adoption. Through Jesus,
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we have been adopted into the family
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of God. God has become our father
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Jesus our older brother and the people
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all around you have become your siblings
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I have the privilege of being an adoptive father
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and when we adopted Sunday
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into our family She
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simultaneously became my daughter and Judomosis's
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sister for better or
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for worse right, she
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did not have a choice in the matter that it
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was just all of a part
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in the same way when we Quote
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say yes to Jesus when
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we begin to follow Jesus
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we simultaneously join a new
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family Listen to Ephesians
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this family is made up of all
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sorts of people This is chapter 2
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speaking of the racial hostility between Jews
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and Gentiles Which is a dominant theme in the
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New Testament which we often don't realize because it
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doesn't map onto the racial history of our nation
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But we're still reading about this tension every
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single day right now in the news For
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he himself is our peace
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who has made the two
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groups one and has
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destroyed the barrier the dividing wall
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of hostility His
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purpose literally a wall of hostility right
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now His purpose was
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to create in himself one new
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humanity out of the two Thus
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making peace and in one body to
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reconcile both of them to God through
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the cross By which he
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put to death their hostility for through him.
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We both have access to the father by
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one Spirit consequently you
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are no longer foreigners and
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strangers but fellow citizens Not
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of America or Israel or whatever but
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of the kingdom of God with God's
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people and also members of his Householder
21:42
his family built on
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the foundation of the Apostles and
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prophets with Christ Jesus himself as
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the chief cornerstone This
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quote new humanity and what
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audacious language? Transcends
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all the lines that divide us race
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class gender, politics,
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you name it. In
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fact, these twelve apprentices were from all
22:06
over the map. Matthew
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was a tax farmer. So he
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was fully on the side of the Roman
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Empire, the oppressor of all oppressors. Simon,
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we read, was a zealot. Zealots
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were a first century insurgency group marked
22:22
by basically guerrilla warfare against the Roman
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Empire. They were called
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Sicaria, or dagger men, because they
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would hide daggers under their tunic.
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They would go to public places.
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They would sneak up behind Roman
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military officers or Roman officials, or
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sometimes just Roman citizens, and they
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would take the dagger out, slit their throat,
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and then disappear back into the crowd. Hey,
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Matthew, meet Simon. We'd love
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for you guys to, like, do some group spiritual
22:49
direction together, help each other listen to God. I
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just want you to tell each other your stories,
22:54
like how you end up where you are, and
22:56
can you imagine? And
22:59
we don't, we don't, we in America, we really don't
23:01
have an example of this. I mean,
23:03
you could take your brightest red hat all
23:06
the way down to the AOC, and you would
23:08
not even come close. The
23:11
level of tension, animosity,
23:14
history, full-on
23:16
hate. He has
23:18
broken down the wall of hostility, made
23:20
the two groups, won this, whatever
23:22
this family is, it is not
23:24
like attracts like. This
23:27
is mapping onto something else. Meaning,
23:29
and please listen, this is all I'm trying to say,
23:33
Jesus desires not just to form
23:35
you into a person of
23:37
love, but
23:40
to form us into a
23:42
community of love. We
23:46
say a lot about what Jesus
23:48
has done in his death, burial,
23:50
and resurrection, and that is right in sitting.
23:53
But we don't say enough about what
23:55
Jesus is doing. You ever thought about
23:57
that? What is Jesus doing right now?
24:00
between His resurrection and His
24:02
return. What's He doing? I'm
24:07
not exactly sure for the record. I
24:10
know from Hebrews that He's praying for you and I. That's
24:13
fascinating. But
24:15
best as I can tell, this is my
24:17
kind of read of the New Testament. I
24:19
think that it seems that
24:21
what Jesus is doing right now as we
24:23
speak is He
24:26
is forming a new humanity
24:30
from every tribe and tongue and
24:32
nation, every
24:34
band of the socioeconomic spectrum, every
24:38
color of skin, every affiliation,
24:40
every background, every
24:43
personality type, every Enneagram number. He
24:46
is forming a new humanity
24:49
into people of
24:51
love and joy
24:53
and peace
24:57
and wisdom, courage,
25:00
power, strength
25:03
and weakness and humility and
25:05
gentleness and more in
25:08
order to one day
25:11
together co-rule with Him
25:13
over the cosmos. Turns
25:16
out that job is going to
25:18
take a bit of training, right?
25:21
You know, if you have to train for like
25:23
at least four years to become an accountant or
25:25
whatever, how long do you think you have
25:27
to train to like co-rule the universe? Likely
25:30
a bit longer. One
25:33
word for that process of training is
25:35
apprenticeship to Jesus. This
25:37
is what Jesus is doing right now. And
25:40
this has all sorts of implications
25:42
for our apprenticeship to Jesus. Let's start
25:44
with the most obvious. You can't
25:46
follow Jesus alone. Not
25:49
you shouldn't. Not, hey, I would
25:51
advise against it. Or, hey, you know, you
25:53
should think about doing it more. You
25:56
can't. The whole point of
25:58
the spiritual journey is to become a believer. person
26:00
of love. Jesus called love
26:02
the greatest commandment. Like
26:04
the New Testament summary of all of
26:06
Christian spirituality down into one word is
26:09
the word agape, or love.
26:12
Dr. Todd Hall of Rosemead School
26:14
of Psychology calls the Christian faith
26:16
a relational spirituality. I love that.
26:19
By which we are loved into
26:21
people of love. This
26:23
means that what we call spiritual formation
26:26
is not just a set of practices
26:28
of disciplines and exercises and a rule
26:30
of life. It is at the core
26:32
a relational process. Dr. Joseph
26:35
Hellerman in my all time favorite book
26:37
on community says this, spiritual
26:39
formation occurs primarily in the
26:41
context of community. Persons
26:44
who remain contented with their brothers
26:46
and sisters in the local church
26:49
almost invariably grow in
26:51
self-understanding. This
26:53
is especially the case for those
26:56
courageous Christians who stick it out
26:58
through the often messy, always messy
27:00
process of interpersonal discord and conflict
27:02
resolution. Long
27:04
term interpersonal relationships are
27:07
the crucible of genuine
27:09
progress in the Christian
27:11
life. People who
27:13
stay, grow. People
27:16
who leave, do not grow. This
27:20
is why church is so essential,
27:23
but, and I need to tread carefully here. By
27:26
church I do not mean or
27:28
like just on the, I do not mean
27:30
church attendance. Yes this is
27:32
a part of what I mean and a
27:34
part of the practice of community but it's
27:36
certainly not the center point. Sabbath
27:39
worship is an essential part of our
27:41
formation, but while God works
27:43
through all shapes and styles and
27:45
sizes of churches, as
27:47
a general rule it's in the smaller,
27:49
more relational spaces where we experience
27:51
the most profound
27:54
stage, change. There
27:56
is a growing body of research from the
27:59
social sciences groups relationships into different
28:01
categories based on group size and
28:04
levels of vulnerability. And
28:06
it maps perfectly onto the Jesus story.
28:09
One of the most widely accepted paradigms
28:11
is a number but one of the
28:13
best known ones is from the evolutionary
28:15
psychologist Dr. Robert Dunbar of Oxford. It's
28:17
loosely referred to as Dunbar's number. I would just
28:20
call it the four circles of community. He
28:22
calls our inner circle our intimates. This
28:25
is one to five people max
28:28
who know us as we actually are our
28:31
light and our shadow and
28:33
hopefully love us as we are.
28:37
Of course the pain is that
28:39
over half of Americans have
28:42
no intimates. I'm
28:44
sure some of you in the room have no intimates.
28:48
Back to the fallout of radical
28:51
individualism with divorce breakdown
28:53
of the family all sorts of
28:55
factors. But hopefully you
28:57
have a few people that you can
28:59
bear your soul to a best
29:02
friend or a spouse or roommate
29:04
or old friends from high
29:06
school or college who know you and love you
29:08
as you are. The next
29:10
circle is our friends which there's kind of
29:12
different theories here but is right around 15
29:15
people. This is
29:17
the number of people that we do life
29:19
with. We practice the one or another of
29:21
the New Testament with. We help each other
29:23
move. That one's not in the New Testament
29:25
just for the record because it's miserable. But
29:27
we help each other move. We go on
29:29
vacation. We share meals when somebody gets home
29:31
from the hospital. We drop off groceries.
29:34
We help each other make decisions. We
29:36
help each other parent. This is our
29:38
community. The next threshold is right around
29:40
the 150 person mark. Again sociologists
29:42
call this the law of 150 as it's about
29:46
the maximum number of people that you
29:48
can actually know and be in relationship
29:50
with. And it turns out there's all
29:52
sorts of data to suggest it's the
29:54
optimal group size for most human behavior.
29:56
So they Dunbar and others looked at
29:58
for example the median size of
30:01
villages and indigenous culture and medieval Europe. They looked
30:03
at military units and this number 150 just was
30:05
over and over and over
30:08
again. This is our village per
30:10
se. And we draw on this wider
30:13
social network for all sorts of things. If you read that
30:15
book, The Strength of Weak Ties. We
30:17
need weak ties. Like right now, I have a 18 year
30:20
old son who's in high school and he
30:22
needs a job. And so
30:24
I'm texting all these random people I barely know
30:26
like, hey, do you know of any like, and
30:29
I want him to have a bad job. No offense
30:31
to some high schoolers down here. If you don't have
30:33
a couple of really bad jobs, you are gonna be
30:36
a horrible human being in the dulcet. I
30:38
learned that the hard way as an employer
30:40
never ever hires somebody out of college who
30:42
hasn't had some horrible jobs. It's just
30:44
like you're just both gonna be miserable,
30:46
right? So if you happen to know
30:48
of anybody in LA that has a good bad
30:50
job for a high schooler that will
30:53
let them still keep Sabbath on Friday night, that would be
30:55
wonderful. Thank you so much. But
30:57
we draw on this wider community for
30:59
all sorts of things. And then the
31:01
final circle is our tribe. This is
31:03
the larger group that we identify with
31:05
and belong to. And
31:07
this is crucial. We don't know, we don't even
31:09
know most of these people personally. Most of you
31:11
don't know this room personally. But
31:14
yet from this wider group, we get a
31:16
sense of meaning, purpose, belonging, identity, a sense
31:18
of self, a sense of call and vision
31:20
of what it means. For
31:23
many in the secular world, this could be a
31:25
company like Nike or some like hardcore startup. It
31:27
could be a political party. If you're from the
31:29
UK, for many people it's their football team. For
31:32
us as followers of Jesus, this
31:34
is the Church of Jesus. And
31:37
when it comes to our spiritual formation, one,
31:40
we need relationships across all
31:42
four circles. Jesus had
31:44
relationships every layer. He had three
31:46
intimates, Peter, James and John. And
31:49
then he had the 12 plus a few
31:51
close friends. And that word is used of
31:54
Jesus. Mary, Martha, Lazarus, at least right around
31:56
15. And then he had a group
31:58
of 120. Jerusalem
32:00
that were his closest core
32:02
community and then thousands after
32:04
that in Jerusalem and around
32:06
Israel who were his followers.
32:09
Healthy people have relationships
32:11
across all four circles
32:13
but secondly our
32:16
deepest formation, this is my
32:18
conviction, our
32:21
deepest formation growth, healing
32:25
and change all
32:27
happen in the smaller two circles. We
32:31
need what Celtic Christians called
32:34
an Anamkara or
32:37
a soul friend. Just
32:39
bear the weight of life together
32:43
and we need a community to do
32:46
life with a kind of
32:48
family. We were
32:50
created to live deeply relational lives
32:52
and it's in the first two
32:54
circles that we experience deep
32:57
and lasting transformation and
33:00
yet we all have mixed
33:02
feelings about these kinds of relationships
33:04
right. Again part of
33:07
you and I we ache for it we want
33:09
to know and be known part
33:11
of us is scared to death of it especially
33:14
if in your childhood you did
33:17
not receive safe steady love from
33:19
your parents or caregivers or
33:22
if like so many of us you have
33:24
been deeply wounded along the way. The
33:27
Portland therapist Susie Hausch likes to
33:29
say our deepest wounds come from
33:31
relationships but so does
33:33
our deepest healing. Whatever
33:36
your it's the only way we heal by the way.
33:39
I love to write books read books think
33:42
about books guess what
33:44
you don't heal from reading books
33:47
or listening to podcasts or
33:50
even coming to church. You
33:52
heal in deep
33:54
relationships whatever
33:56
your emotional appetite is these
33:59
deeper relationships. Relationships are essential
34:02
if you want to heal and grow So
34:05
let me just take a moment before we're done and
34:07
name what these relationships look like Anamkara
34:09
kind of soul or spiritual friendships
34:11
are marked by at least three
34:14
core characteristics First
34:16
is depth. These are not
34:18
superficial relationships where we chat about
34:20
the weather or work projects or
34:22
Oscar nominations We talk about
34:24
what's below the surface about our life
34:27
with God About our
34:29
past our family about our pain and our
34:31
suffering often and we talk about our sin
34:34
Where the growth edge is in our
34:36
formation, but it's not just depth It's
34:38
also vulnerability because it's kind of a depth that's
34:40
just like kind of really like, you know, interesting
34:42
and profound It's vulnerability
34:45
we come together around weakness
34:48
not around strength Around
34:50
failure as a rally point more than
34:52
success and
34:54
to do that you have to open
34:56
up and be raw and honest and
34:59
Transparent and you have to let
35:01
people in to see what Jesus
35:03
called your spiritual poverty your
35:05
spiritual bankruptcy There
35:08
are two parts to this one is just telling the
35:10
truth or the kind of official word for that in
35:12
the New Testament Is the practice
35:15
of confession, which is a
35:17
sub discipline to community? And
35:19
it is just naming our sin and our
35:21
shame to another as Tyler is so beautifully
35:24
said we can't live without sin But
35:26
we can live without secrets Can
35:29
you imagine? living
35:32
with no secrets I Would
35:36
imagine many of you don't even think that's possible
35:40
It is trust me it is I
35:45
Think it's God's intention For
35:48
all of us naked and unashamed if you
35:50
know that story Telling
35:53
the truth the other is listening Listening
35:56
deeply to each other's stories
35:59
and struggles Neurobiologists tell
36:01
us that when people feel felt, when
36:04
they, in the language of psychology, when they
36:06
feel listened to in a compassionate way, it's
36:09
indistinguishable from feeling loved.
36:12
David Brooks in his recent book, How to Know a
36:14
Person, which I highly recommend, writes about
36:16
how, you know, there's this new data to say that
36:19
if you listen carefully enough to a person, you're burning
36:21
calories, like you're working up a little sweat. Some
36:24
people are exhausting to listen to. Let's
36:26
just be honest, all right? Well, I
36:29
mean, not you, none of you, but, uh, there, he
36:31
writes this, there
36:34
is one skill that lies
36:36
at the heart of any
36:38
healthy person, family, school, community,
36:40
organization, or society. The ability
36:42
to see someone else deeply
36:44
and make them feel seen.
36:47
To accurately know another person, to
36:49
let them feel valued, heard, and
36:52
understood. That is at the heart
36:54
of being a good person, the
36:56
ultimate gift you can give to
36:58
others and yourself. Trying
37:00
to teach my kids the slant method, are you
37:02
familiar with that? It's an acronym, slant. Sit
37:06
up, lean in, ask
37:09
questions, nod your head, track the
37:11
speaker. Guess how well
37:13
it's working? Not
37:15
at all. But it's
37:17
a great acronym. Moses, grill
37:20
you on it later this afternoon, okay? As
37:23
we listen deeply to
37:26
each other, tell our stories, and help
37:28
each other make sense of our stories
37:30
in God, we
37:32
experience real healing from both
37:34
sin and shame. And
37:37
finally, it's a commitment to transformation.
37:41
You know, when monks join a monastery, they take
37:43
vows. And one of the
37:45
most common vows is conversatio morum in
37:47
Latin, or conversion of life. That sounds
37:49
really weird. Catholics use the word conversion
37:51
differently than Protestants. So we use it
37:53
as a one-time event in our past,
37:55
when where you quote, convert it. That's
37:58
not how most Christians use the word. use
38:00
it as an ongoing word, a new conversion.
38:02
It's almost like the millennial
38:04
version, like where you level up in
38:07
your spiritual formation. And
38:09
so conversatio morum, or conversion of life,
38:11
is essentially a vow. It
38:14
is basically a vow to never
38:16
stop growing. It
38:21
is a lifelong commitment to
38:24
formation. Many people, psychologists,
38:26
I'm sure you're familiar with the
38:28
language, distinguish between a fixed mindset
38:30
and a growth mindset. Many
38:33
people reach a certain level of psychospirational
38:35
maturity, and then they plateau into kind
38:37
of a fixed mindset. I'm
38:39
good, cool, just maintain goodness.
38:42
Church then becomes a place to come and feel
38:44
good, a kind of
38:46
emotional coping mechanism. No more,
38:48
you just wanna kinda hear what you already
38:51
believe and kinda good reminder, and yeah, okay,
38:53
I feel better now. But
38:55
as apprentices of Jesus, we come together
38:58
not just to be a safe place
39:00
to process emotional pain, but ultimately to
39:02
give ourselves more deeply to
39:05
Jesus. This
39:07
means that part of our relational dynamic is
39:09
telling the truth to each other in
39:12
love and gentleness, but in
39:14
honesty. I
39:16
need people to
39:18
both comfort me and confront me at
39:20
times, to
39:23
point out my potential and any pitfalls.
39:26
And while I like to think that I
39:28
rarely need a full-on rebuke because I'm a
39:30
godly man, I regularly
39:33
need people to tell me things I don't
39:36
wanna hear and
39:38
speak into my life the honesty
39:40
of reality before God. All
39:43
that to say, and this is, I don't
39:45
know, a blunt way to say this, spiritual
39:49
friendships do not work unless
39:52
both members are fully
39:55
committed to the transformational journey. Bridge
39:59
down communities. not really work very
40:01
well unless if
40:03
people as a community
40:05
are deeply committed to the transformational
40:08
journey. So
40:11
depth, vulnerability, and
40:13
a commitment to transformation.
40:16
Here's the thing, it is possible
40:18
to go to church every single Sunday,
40:20
have a lot of friends, and even
40:22
be in a Bridgertown community and never
40:24
have these types
40:27
of relationships. How
40:29
do I know that? Because I did
40:32
it for a long time. Where? Here.
40:36
I know how to do it. When
40:39
I most I won't rehash that story of those of you
40:41
that have been around, I'm sure I've told it too many
40:44
times, but I did not grow
40:46
up in a stream
40:48
of, this is not an angry statement, I'm really grateful for the
40:50
stream of the church I grew up in, but in it, like
40:53
this concept of, you know, what my
40:56
mentor calls dining room table Christianity, of
40:58
life around a table in community, about
41:00
soul friend, of confession, of sin, shame,
41:02
just open, like your life is an
41:05
open book. That was not in
41:07
the paradigm. It's like come to church and hear the
41:09
Bible and then just be a
41:11
good person. And that
41:14
was not in the paradigm. And so when
41:16
I first woke up to Jesus called the
41:18
community, I started really, really
41:20
smalls before Bridgertown communities were saying, Matt and
41:22
Anna that aren't here this morning.
41:24
I don't know if that's passive aggressive against me
41:26
or what that means, but they moved in, you
41:28
know, across the street from us and with some
41:30
other people, we just started having a meal together.
41:33
We were like so clumsy. We had no idea.
41:35
And we just began to do life together.
41:38
And of course, you know, over time you
41:40
pass through this kind of series of
41:42
intimacy gradients and you go from
41:44
just kind of, hopefully from just like dinner with
41:46
friends and, and you begin to tell
41:49
your stories and you begin to help each other make
41:51
sense of your stories, right? All the
41:54
Portland West Coast, like just, you know,
41:56
define yourself and choose your identity
41:59
and connect. It is
42:01
so unscientific, set aside religion, it's so
42:03
unscientific it's not even funny. Any
42:06
neurobiologist would tell you, your brain
42:08
cannot form an identity or
42:11
make a coherent emotional processing of
42:13
your story without another brain. Your
42:15
brain needs another person's brain to
42:17
tell you who you are. Fact.
42:21
Doesn't matter, however you come at
42:23
it. So we began to just
42:25
make sense of our stories together, and of
42:27
course you just keep going, you begin to
42:29
do life together, you begin to confess your
42:32
sins to each other, you begin to make
42:34
decisions together. We kept coming here on Sundays
42:36
and it was lovely, but most of our
42:38
life was not around a stage, it was
42:40
around a table. And
42:42
as romantic as that may sound, all of you who
42:44
have been in this journey, which is hundreds of you
42:46
in the room, you know it's not romantic at all,
42:49
it's an absolute pain in the butt. The honeymoon's wonderful.
42:51
It's like, oh, we're doing life around a table. And
42:53
it's like, yeah, but with you. It's
42:56
like, you know, we had to learn
42:58
the hard way about what Dietrich Bonhoeffer,
43:00
after his experience of living in an
43:02
intentional community called Sinkenwald, he
43:04
called the wish stream of community, and if you
43:06
haven't learned this yet, oh, I'm so sorry to
43:08
break it to you. But in his book,
43:11
Life Together, he writes this. This is
43:13
the paragraph, that's one of the most famous books
43:15
on community in the last hundred years. If you
43:17
read it, this is the standout paragraph. Those
43:20
who love their dream of a Christian
43:22
community, more than they
43:24
love the Christian community itself, become
43:26
the destroyers of that Christian community,
43:29
even though their personal intentions
43:32
may be ever so honest,
43:34
earnest, and sacrificial. No
43:37
actual church or community
43:39
or friendship or
43:42
family or marriage can
43:44
ever possibly live up to
43:46
the wish stream of
43:48
the ideal church or community or marriage
43:50
or family or friendship. I
43:53
can tell you, as so many of you could
43:55
tell each other, that this way of living, this
43:57
practice of, it's not even a practice, it's a
43:59
war. of being, doing
44:02
life together with other people, it
44:04
is not easy. And
44:07
when it goes wrong, when you
44:10
let down all of the
44:13
shields that from our earliest days many
44:15
of us begin to put up to
44:18
protect our fragile hearts, and
44:21
when you let people in, and when,
44:25
not if, when they wound
44:27
you, or
44:29
when you wound them,
44:32
I mean there's a pain
44:34
that, I mean
44:37
it's just really bad, it's really hard. When
44:40
it goes wrong, it is so
44:42
painful. But
44:44
when it goes right, it
44:48
is a glimpse of eternity and
44:51
time. And
44:53
like so many of you in the
44:56
room who have braved the dangerous waters
44:58
of just being
45:00
who you actually are with a small group of
45:02
people over a long period of time. It's
45:06
changed my life. We
45:08
moved to L.A. seven months ago and
45:10
we love it again, the weather, it's
45:12
just okay. But
45:15
it has been to start over in
45:17
the middle of life of three teenagers
45:19
after almost 20 years with you, I mean
45:23
it has been, I'm just going to
45:25
be honest, it's been painfully lonely. I'm
45:28
so introverted. I'm like, my
45:30
definition of introversion is like I've never met
45:32
anybody whose company I enjoy more than my
45:35
own. Like as
45:37
nobody I would rather be. I love Gerald,
45:39
love Tyler, Chris is great, but like they're
45:41
not as great as me in a poetry
45:43
book. It's not like an egotistical statement, it's
45:45
just a pleasure statement, you know? And
45:51
you know all the things about people that are less
45:53
extroverted and how they're neurotic and messed up, yeah, that's
45:55
all true. But
45:58
man, living
46:00
in one place for so long, I've just felt relationally
46:03
rich, but kind of exhausted a lot
46:05
of the time. So this
46:07
is my first time, really,
46:10
as an adult, feeling what I
46:12
would imagine many of you feel every single day.
46:16
Just that sharp pain.
46:18
It's almost like a pain like, other
46:21
than rejection, it's like hard to
46:23
even imagine what it feels like. And
46:27
I went
46:29
through a really hard relational breach recently,
46:32
about a year or two ago, with,
46:35
not with Tyler, don't worry, it
46:37
was with Gerald, but we're praying for him. And
46:42
I have never felt in any season
46:44
of my whole life, both
46:47
such an egg-four community and such
46:49
a fear, I've
46:52
felt that temptation to like, hey, new city, new place, new
46:54
season of life, we could just do
46:56
life differently. But
46:58
no way. I will
47:00
never, and we have found, we're beginning to
47:03
form communities small, my sister's there, I have
47:05
one friend who is a treasure to my
47:07
soul, we're together every week doing
47:09
confession and such. I
47:12
will never go back to
47:15
church attendance on Sunday and living like an American
47:17
the other six days of the week. That
47:19
is a bankrupt way of life. And
47:23
the end of it is that old man at the end of
47:25
the table. It's
47:27
the problem, I can say this fast
47:29
because I'm not here anymore, the problem
47:31
in particular with the progressive narrative that
47:33
this city is indoctrinated in, ever you
47:36
cannot walk a block, this
47:38
is one of the most indoctrination cities in
47:40
the world. This city makes LA feel like
47:42
Dallas, Texas, as far as like the
47:45
level of liberalism. And that's
47:47
not a slam on you, it's just like, let's be honest, LA,
47:51
who doesn't call itself Stumptown or Bridge City,
47:53
it calls itself Babylon,
47:57
and it feels chill. You're
48:00
like, wow, but wow. But
48:04
one of the dangers to the progressive
48:06
narrative, it is entirely dominated by people
48:08
under the age of 40, most
48:10
of whom are single. The
48:13
people you wanna look at and base your life
48:15
on are the people that are 80 and
48:17
don't sit at the end of the table all
48:19
alone. Those are
48:21
the people, so often nobody's
48:24
doing the math. Where does this go
48:26
70 years from now? Does
48:29
it go to what
48:32
we most deeply desire to live
48:34
in deep, loving
48:37
relationships? And
48:40
yet, this is hard. I will be the first person
48:42
to tell them how to oversell it, it's hard. And
48:45
in the day and age of radical
48:47
individualism and busyness and hurry and all
48:49
of this stuff, these types of relationships
48:51
will not just fall on your head.
48:54
They will require you and I to
48:56
make an intentional effort to
48:58
resist busyness and individualism and superficiality,
49:01
to live deeply with a few,
49:03
to go deep with a few,
49:05
to sink your roots, it will
49:07
require a rule of life. Because
49:10
a rule of life is not just a
49:13
set of spiritual disciplines for devotional life. In
49:16
fact, this tiny micro resurgence of rule of life
49:18
that Bridgetown's a part of, the work I do is
49:20
very much a part of, is
49:22
beautiful, I'm all for it. But it
49:24
is all tragically being run through the
49:26
grid of radical individualism. In
49:29
the West, with individuals writing their rule of
49:31
life, not a bad thing, I
49:33
am all for it. But historically,
49:36
that is an aberration, it doesn't
49:38
even exist, there's no parallel in 2,000 years. A
49:42
rule of life was for a
49:44
community. It was designed
49:46
to hold a community together
49:49
around shared rhythms of formation,
49:51
to anchor a community, a
49:53
web of relationships in Jesus
49:56
himself. And foster
49:58
in relationships of depth and. in our
50:00
age will require a level
50:03
of discipline and intentionality
50:05
and self-sacrificial love. It
50:08
will require a rule of life.
50:11
So to end, I would just invite you, if you
50:13
wanna just clear off your lap, I'm done. I
50:16
would take a moment. You wanna clear
50:18
your lap off, sit up straight, take
50:20
a few deep breaths. If you wanna close
50:22
your eyes, please do. And
50:25
I just have a few questions for reflection because
50:27
all of us are at a different spot. So
50:30
the growth edge for you is different than the growth
50:32
edge to me, yours, these, and mine, all of us
50:34
are at a different spot. So take
50:36
this idea and let the Holy Spirit direct
50:39
your heart. Let's take a
50:41
few deep breaths. Let
50:46
me offer you three questions to reflect on
50:50
now and in the week to come. One,
50:54
do you have your Peter, James,
50:56
and John? Your
51:01
three or four, your intimates? And
51:07
if so, who are they? Two,
51:22
do you have your 12, your community, your
51:25
God, your
51:28
dining room table? And
51:42
three, whatever your answer, there's
51:45
no right answer here, this is just for
51:47
you. What's
51:49
the next step for you to
51:53
move deeper into a relational
51:55
spirituality? Deeper
51:58
into the practice of community. the
52:03
way of being in family that is at the heart
52:08
of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit themselves.
52:36
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