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happy friday oh yes the weekend
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is just around the corner to which he had signed up
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for some yard work some fall clean
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up around the house find some grass seed you know
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the tricks to them instructions
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mow the lawn so to pick up some
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of the leaves are falling in his didn't cooler
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she's a good moment calorie number of excited
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about autumn i always loved the great season
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of autumn the onset of thanksgiving
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when of my favorite holidays are i phones
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well as we get lined up today
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we get to amazing gas cars
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or and leaves out and now the republican nominee
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for the governor the new york
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state and other way that state is very
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much employee his democratic opponent happy
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hogan not very far doing
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and she's got a scandal was a lieutenant governor's
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he owns a lot of the coven sat down from
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the cuomo era and service
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release album he's going to tell us what that race
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is shaping up like what we're watching how
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crime and economies are the driving
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issues were so many new yorkers in the great
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empire states and will start with fleas
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alvin breakdown grossman some candidate
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for new york gov the nemo finish
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up with our good friend mark meckler for the convention
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other states he doing some amazing were the
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grassroots level has his finger on the
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polls for many reasons one got
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a grassroots army or more than five million americans
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that's impressive alone but he also
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has something else got a polling
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partnership with the trafalgar group and the convention
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of states are doing some amazing polling
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measuring issues and are falling below the radar
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most mainstream reporters and mainstream
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pollsters marks going to brings up to speed on both
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of those what a great show back
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to back lee zeldin in mark
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makar we're going to take [unk] commercial break when
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we come back we'll start with congress from lisa i'm in
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right after this
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hi folks joining us now on the line on
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the campaign trail in the great state new york
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is one of our difference does it is lisa the now
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republican nominee for governor in the great state of new
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york started to read abby i'm so afraid
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to be the a giant you have a lot of traction
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going on in your campaign lot of questions
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surrounding the income and
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governance thousand little bit about
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the scandal is a donor scandal there's a
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lieutenant governor scandal it seems like culture
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of corruption is surrounded this governor
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and you're very short tenure the albany or he
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had a enough of this corruption
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it was toxic enough when she became
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governor of the reason why she became governor
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was because
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protests or had to step down in
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her first big decision was picking a lieutenant
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governor herself that you picked prime
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benjamin
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prime measurement will reach a happy other
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to fund the police moment the state capital where
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he was a state senator but
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he already had an investigation
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that was ongoing which ended up resulting
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has indictment and resignation
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look at the local of all of her options she ends
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up picking as a very first big
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decision brian benjamin fast forward to
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today and many other scandals
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in between
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now there is the latest updates came out
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with a new story by the albany times
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union with are talking about how she
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gave a no bid over six hundred
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million dollar contract one of her top
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campaign supporters for these toby
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tests where she was paying twice
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the going rate it's just every
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single day news stories of rocks around
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this or around her and and there's obviously
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no way that she's that be cleaning up albany yeah
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was forty five percent more than what california
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was paying job when is that known for getting good deal
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so it's it's pretty striking when you see
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that's another thing a sniff mean she's a
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one of many democrats this times
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that doesn't want to debate we're seeing with
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katie have done in arizona it's you got
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an incumbent governor the job interviews uses
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a debate and she doesn't want to the beach sc
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she does and she knows
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she's lose if she as debate the problem
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is i believe she lives as eat more spouses
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debate
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i believe that we should have at least
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five debates she trying to get away
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right here with practically nothing the me
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she hasn't yet said where when how
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many they'll generally say as
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she said over the last few weeks said as
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she looks forward to debating whoa
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whoa let's do it i mean in a week the
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absentee ballots are going out in
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new york i don't know maybe i'm
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maybe bit your bit your says that i'm extremely
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it maybe it's extreme
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that i feel like we should have a debate before
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people vote says this is a crazy
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idea right what a novel idea right
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yes it is amazing and as he can
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be putting out to out as a new york post ads are
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camera today he was an uncertain suit and
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i think that doesn't bode well with yorkers new
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yorkers like people who are strong they don't
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check them out they rise to the days and this
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is gonna daughter until she says yes isn't it
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no doubt end is obviously the
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dog her once she says say
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yes because then she's going to have actually
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debate and the it's not gonna
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lie it's not going to work out well for her she's
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on the wrong side of so many different issues
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new york leads the entire nation and population
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last year's want to talk about that's what
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bauer algebraic you're
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welcome it but the problem is is that she doesn't want
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to do the right thing i say repeal
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castle spell she says she
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needs more data i say fire
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alvin brad she says he just got their coast
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flak he's doing his job as
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far as the whole goes she would rather
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me as she's actually said this out loud she
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would rather me just get on a boss and moved
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to florida she declared it i'm no longer
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a new yorker for my views
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while there are millions of other new yorkers who
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feel the same way that i'd you are you saying that
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millions of new yorkers to leave the state and
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was that say about her this is a response
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to being challenged we live in united states of
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america if you want to go he'll run some
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states and some third world country well
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the out that something for another dana
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you know when she comes back internet
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life but as far as this one as governor
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of the state of new york you have to be willing to be the governor
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for all new yorkers that you should love
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and cherish respect our great
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american process and that doesn't
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mean that you silence if you're
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a fan and
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or to exile upon summer you want
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to challenge you you you should welcome the debate
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if you think truly that you have the better ideas
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he really something in one idea that she has
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a problem with her one policy has a bomb it's
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most of the country has a time employment
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market that you're having a hard time finding workers
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but new york's unemployment rate keeps digging up way
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above the national average four point seven
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grew again and august's why are
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people having such a hard time creating jobs
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in new york a few things one as
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york is just not a business friendly
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state people who run it
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agencies target
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too many businesses with versions
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was just sat well with with to tell
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you have policies that make it
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really hard to do business from the
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tax fraud and from the regulatory
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front they'll go either way to pass bills
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that that that actually try to get rid of industries
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altogether that they try to pass
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new bills to create new industries
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we're picking winners and losers and and based on your
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political calculation they'll get
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access to to grant money as opposed
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to just leveling the playing field across
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the board at there's also a lot
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i mean it's for workforce development
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to make sure you have labored at work the jobs
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a lot of young new yorkers
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are deciding that if they want to live the american
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dream they could either heather your kid in
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the basement a mom and dad's house so they can go buy
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a home for their set themselves in
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the carolinas or tennessee or florida or
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texas are so that the americans
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in order for the american dream to be a new york
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juri you need to make sure that
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new yorkers especially our young families
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are are are be able are are able to
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have their family i have
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their own home and live
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a certain quality of life that allows
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them
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that you enjoy life and
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and not you'll like they're living life in
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poverty so , many aspects
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of they are really cathy hogan the states are
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the wrong direction right across the board on all of
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it running really against the grain of
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an entire consumer well since it's an outside
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job market but not a new york he really is remarkable
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you have been outspoken critic of censorship
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you put out an ad about the crime record of democrats
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and twitter senses you less than twelve
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hours after the ad was taking off on social
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media your reaction to twitter meddling
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in the race by listen i think that it's
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wrong if you wanna talk about reality
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were in an election coming up and we
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are talking about violence on the streets or
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images that are new yorkers
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know all too well this is nothing
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do with this is
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the reality for many new yorkers who want
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to see our streets or subways are all of
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places of employment all made safer
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and twitter is really
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going wait you far above
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and beyond the to silence
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a voice right now what we we put
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the at out a couple days ago within
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about twelve hours or so we were
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just under two hundred thousand views
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in a flap the label on it and then
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here we are a couple days later right
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now has just over two
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hundred thousand views as opposed the and
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whatever it it would have had in
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said you might have been into the into the millions
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by now so there's a consequence when
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that used to press that speech we've seen
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in the past the new york post
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account being targeted
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by twitter when they were doing their reporting just
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before the nov twenty twenty election and
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it after the fact you find out that
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the reporting is true and and big tech to
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says oh i'm sorry my bad or
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maybe they would you say that they're sorry
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which hit a real big problem that
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ios is not yourself a one off
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your that we're talking about with aren't you see the at such
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a good point it really is it's his jaw
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dropping the watches on is alarming as
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you look out as crime seems
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to be it's time in economy run neck and
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neck in new york as the two most important issues
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what do you hear from everyday voters in the state exactly
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what you just said crime and economy arrived there
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to very top of the live
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the reason why the nation leave the country and population
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losses because new yorkers are hidden are breaking
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point the like your wallet your safety
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their freedom equality the kids that
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educate her under attack
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they believe they know that if they
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go to one of these other states such as reference
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that their money will go further they'll feel
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safer though live life for your that's why new york
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leave the it's hard h the population loss
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the crazy thing about this campaign might be
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the cat the whole goal is on able
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to articulate and off to
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donegal to finish this very simple
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said new york leads
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the entire nation and population lost
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because what are you told us
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the rest of that said the economy
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would answer to how can you expect you to fix it
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if she doesn't even know how to articulate
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she did she can even take a shot at it she gave
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her
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hours and unlimited attempts to try
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she would even be able to finish it is pretty
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darn remarkable no place where you been
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it's very strong i'm not throwing
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out the men and women of blue if they don't
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get a vaccine there was a big rolling where
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i and my billie got was restored to the job
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by a judge in the last few days consistent
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with your policy inconsistent with stabbing
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whole goes either course starting to wake up and
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in but come on the right side of this issue
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i certainly believe that that judge made
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the right decision this particular case
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i believe that nobody should be fired for
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that person decision of whether or not
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to get the cold back the the covert shot if you
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want to get it get it if you don't want to get it don't get
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it don't do it because governments
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forcing you to do it your strategy you
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if you don't you losing your livelihood a
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people were held as heroes converted
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into zeroes by the
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beef democrats who have
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been instituting that's the mandates
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and beyond and people
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who i love their job
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old son find themselves out of work
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i believe everyone should be offered their jobs
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back with backpacks have the whole goal
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when she was instituting this vaccine
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mandate and she fired tens of thousands
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of health care workers he
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called on yorkers the be her apostle
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get the shot listen if you want to get it get
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it the don't do it because the governor's
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calling on you to be or apostle efforts
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as such an awkward use a word even
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it's such an unusual thanks last thing
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very interesting dynamic you
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are picking up endorsements from really prominent
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democrats and to sign the latest former
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burrow present for manhattan's what's
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going on here this looks like a coalition
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building passes up or big time or
12:17
and earlier this week we were on
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the steps of new york city all endorsed by
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a city new york city councilman robert
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holding
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former state legislators
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ruben diaz was a state senator speed coffin
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here's the state assemblyman don't hiking
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the former state assembly in a bunch of democrat
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leaders and one person after another giving
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speeches along the lines of how they've
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been a democrat their entire lives the never voted
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for republican voting for voting
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for me on november eight will be the first time they ever vote
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republican we were getting to speeches
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like that from some of the group go
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there is a strong coalition their citing as a top
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of the way crime in public safety
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and clearly cathy all goes that off to
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this job of supporting our men and women have little
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the making sure that law abiding yorkers
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are in charge of our streets instead of yeah
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it really is remarkable in sign of a large
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city these are big figures in don't democratic
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politics not just some person on the sidelines
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is really the so what is the t for
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you to close the deal on the finally to the selection
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we , our vote out m s it's
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that simple we have the votes out there
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to win this race and aware polling right
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out just a few points behind
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which were feeling great was shot work hard
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because show up at the be talking right now
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than janeiro festival were little italy
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and in lower manhattan one of my favorite
13:33
places oh my gosh we we
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have the just an
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amazing crowd great food ah
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yeah honestly what you wish you were here we
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will be doing this radio interview percent
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are but it's just really important for
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us to just keep working very hard for everybody
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out there who supports us to do absolutely
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everything in our power taking nothing
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for granted this is not about riding
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in a wave if you see anybody jumping
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on a board to riding a wave
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knock them off how me get behind the board
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this is about us until the polls close
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on november eight doing everything in our
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power to create our wave
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the only the only rule
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if we did or usages one civil war
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nobody should be jumping on any board
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everybody needs to be helping to create
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this way
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so important were wondering i knew i
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saw you in action here in washington
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you are a tireless work are you going to be out there
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work in every voter in the last day and
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that's what the yorkers like they like people that put
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in an honest long days effort near
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is a great that's congressmen in order to
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have you on are you get back to campaigning thank
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you so much of the time of the of they were watson is really
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really close and they shot taker thank you
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years well odds on some six commercial break
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and will be right that the martha has to this
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horrible to the bathroom a commercial break my
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nurse just isn't ideas man a person
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who has been really pursuing
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something that can change the future roaches
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fix the problems that we've been whistling
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out for thirty forty years but really haven't done anything
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to do the growth of the administrative
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the state the growth of spending the growth of
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our lord sense of gum exactly what our founding
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fathers did month the mark meckler set
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out to treat the momentum and i do
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mean momentum the create a convention
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of states where the states to gather together and
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rain in a large central government
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in he's about two thirds of the way varies
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moving quickly and he's joining us today
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with another up and all that exciting things he doing
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mark great to have yourself i
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always good to be with you don't think forever it's
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an exciting thing that you're involved with him you
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have this grassroots army five or six million
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large now engage i
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wanna go back to something that happened exactly
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a week ago today because it's a head scratcher
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and it has clearly
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backfired joe biden gave this unusual
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speeds attacking fifty to sixty
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percent of americans anyone who
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believes that making america great is great bit
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as good idea while he leased into them
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clearly the polls show that
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backfired he dropped as i some
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of the poll growth he was just starting to experience
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plummeted right after that you
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wrote a really powerful op ed the
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of edina it really caught my attention span
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of trump targeted a leads joe biden targets
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we the people tell us how the speeds last
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week backyard and joe biden your what
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for saw i just selling a lot of people down
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the thought of want to beat the dead horse but the visuals
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are stunning then i don't
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know how you imagine that wasn't
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intentional but it's hard to imagine why
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it would beach in other words the way he stood
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up there in front of that deep red sort
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of polish background it looked
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like it was nazi imagery
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i'm not trying to liking him to the nazis i'm just
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saying the imagery was there right
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and then also using two marines as props
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which is a shocking as a military involvement
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political speech
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absolutely so not seen anything like
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that before in american history that kind
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of imagery and so
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i think that's very dangerous in and of itself
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it looked dictatorial and looked
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foreboding now take the truth is
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it was intended to be for voting this
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administration has been openly
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threatening to freedom loving patriots
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all across the country not is threatening but
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acting in terms of threat and this is very
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unusual in the united states
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of america and what i mean by that is what would we that
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heated rhetoric since the beginning of our politics
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literally are you go back to that election
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eighteen hundred similar things that they were saying
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about each other back and would make us blush
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so i know i'm not a problem with hard
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rhetoric in elections which
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, doesn't happen in our elections
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is a candidate or sitting
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president especially attacking
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the american people people
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what it is you attack your political opponents
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know he more broadly their party
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and you say republicans and you're referring
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to the people in washington d washington
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but when you directly attack people
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and like he said he i'm tens
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and tens of millions of american people are
17:58
now you got another thing organ he tried
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to backtrack on that a little bit by thing it wasn't
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attacking the american people but like he
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talks with civically about people who
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are pro life he talks to sit out
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people who are pro traditional marriage
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in marriage and family and so he was
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aiming directly at the heart of the american
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people i think this is a very dangerous
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turn in our politics
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yeah so what's interesting about it is
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that it's benefited to a very small group
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of a lead us in america journalists and intellectuals
18:27
and the last it doesn't speak
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at all to anyone that the majority
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of america other countries and it impugns
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that majority in a significant way as
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regardless of intensive it seems like is is purely
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bad politics everyday the people are you going
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to go asked to vote for him a couple of years
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does he just a bad advice as he just sat out
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as soon as he cotton some sort of elitist bubble
18:47
months a political standpoint off
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the mark well i would say the first thing
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is that i don't think it's joe biden and in
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i don't believe that joe biden is a cogent
18:56
human anymore i don't think he really knows
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what he's saying i i think that put a speech
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in front of them they've given the right mix of drug
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, journal and whatever they're putting them
19:05
on it he goes up there and he does best
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to read from the teleprompter but it's the
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people that are around of better defining the stuff
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and i think they do live in a bubble i think we
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can tell by their policies they are the most
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radical leftists in the united states
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of america and they're just trying to appeal
19:20
of that base and and there is one really dangerous
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thing that i see that concerns me is that
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the vast majority of democrats
19:27
over three quarters over three started to speech
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was good that they had no problem
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with it and so they are appealing to
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the majority of their base with this kind of read
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yeah i think that's where my near they they
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are going for a base of their
19:40
party that is reflective of any majority
19:43
coalition it's you can put together in this country
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it's fascinating to watch meet
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you been doing some amazing polling with it's vulgar
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goods and convention the states action
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tell us action little bit about
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what that polling shows about what
19:55
democrats and lead to some wasn't are talking
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about in the gap with what bomb
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europeans are dealing with and want washington
20:02
to be fixing yeah any and really specifically
20:05
aiming at republicans and you know and that
20:07
person to have the right here in texas we don't register
20:09
to a party and in california has declined to say
20:11
when i lived there because i don't love the public
20:13
and it's just generally don't represent me but
20:16
, what we saw we awesome have the
20:18
recovery republican party done what it
20:20
takes to win your confidence essentially
20:22
and when you're you're you find it's
20:24
fifty three point five
20:26
as he gets plus percentage of americans
20:29
say know that they haven't so it's a majority
20:31
of americans say republican party
20:33
has done what they have to do to win my vote
20:36
and
20:37
really as a warning sign it
20:39
really is if you look at a republican party itself
20:42
is about forty percent of republicans
20:44
say that they haven't done what it takes when
20:46
my vote for much higher percentage of independence
20:49
and so the republicans better get their act together
20:52
and they'd better start acting more
20:54
muscular in contravention of what
20:56
binds doing is not enough to just
20:58
run against joe biden and the democrats this
21:00
they have to do something and have and plane being
21:03
for something is far more powerful than the
21:05
union something you know as in the or
21:07
even if republicans went as history it's sort
21:09
of may be on their side their selection that and can
21:11
we pick up the house it's the most perilous
21:13
moment for republicans will be from january
21:16
third on when they have to show
21:18
what they're going to govern they have to deliver
21:20
the american people want or this is probably one of the
21:22
last census gets the majority back
21:25
we've been slipping majorities in quicker
21:27
quicker tirades every two four six eight years
21:29
now but it's i don't think they
21:31
get another chance if they don't really
21:33
deliver what the american people have do
21:35
you think m mccarthy's gonna give a presentation
21:38
the new contract with america called the commitment of america
21:41
later this month we think it can be in pennsylvania
21:43
so we're hearing what does kevin
21:45
majorities action plan have
21:47
to have to speak to not just the forty percent
21:49
that are rock solid conservatives
21:52
but the twenty percent or the independence at
21:54
the site elections
21:55
yeah i think it has to be incredibly
21:57
muscular without being overly
21:59
party
21:59
in other words it's got a focus on a season
22:02
when i say muscular i'm talking hawk muscular
22:04
in his to break out of his shirt and jacket
22:06
and he needs to explain to the american
22:08
people in a very muscular way what
22:11
he's going to do to restore the economy
22:13
would that's within congress his powers and
22:16
there is what people are really thinking about is the
22:18
economy they're going to the grocery store we just saw
22:20
food prices up eleven point
22:22
four percent we saw the overall inflation
22:24
rate eight point three percent taking up
22:26
against the people are struggling
22:28
out there he's gonna have to address the economy's going
22:30
to have to address energy independence that
22:33
blackouts going on in california i think we're
22:35
going to see more of that around the country as
22:37
winter settled on the country's gonna have
22:39
to address energy independence is gonna have
22:41
to address crime wave a crime wave
22:43
running rampant across much of this country
22:46
and the big cities our republicans
22:48
going to address that are they gonna deal with the things
22:50
that affect everyday americans are they gonna play
22:52
inside the beltway i ,
22:54
i i always have hope but
22:57
i'm not too hopeful because i'm
22:59
talking about kevin mccarthy and the republican party
23:01
you're not a sandwich and mckenzie versailles
23:03
rising the what what does he has to does to
23:06
earn so yes i'm out be a political
23:08
hoffman's muslims what does he need
23:10
to show to be his own trend
23:13
setting since he does he were to get to be speaker
23:16
what does he need to does he's only sort of
23:18
been a conciliator can work and through and
23:20
taking the path of least resistance but what does
23:22
he need to so to be the soon leader it's
23:24
that would rally that sixty percent majority
23:27
of percent concubine
23:28
the arctic what are you gonna have to do with actually
23:30
lead and conciliate in other
23:33
words at a good leader is pushing
23:35
his caucus to do the right thing and
23:37
, pushing mint the move to take
23:39
power use the power they have a a specific
23:42
example that i would take is a
23:44
joe biden said he's gonna double the size of
23:46
the size r s eighty seven thousand new
23:48
agents i would call themselves alberta
23:50
grasses and mccarthy needs to
23:52
say yeah there's no funding for that where the house
23:54
of representatives we control the purse and
23:56
under no circumstances will we provide any
23:58
funding for that i think he should do
24:00
the exact same thing with the f i in the fan of
24:03
doing away with you if yeah and starting over but
24:05
if you won't do that, he needs to there's
24:07
not going to be funding for the fbi, unless
24:09
we get this series of reforms right
24:12
now, the american people are terrified of the irs
24:14
in nap yeah we should never be terrified of our
24:16
own government and the fbi is is in
24:18
to hardee's restaurant in cornering
24:20
michael, and dale, as he drives through and stealing
24:23
his cell phone or seen them, do these
24:25
things in most public, notorious an outrageous
24:27
ways so he asked to go that
24:30
he has a plan to rain needs agencies in
24:32
its
24:32
really to you know when you you talk about lindell,
24:35
the fact that we haven't seen a single democrat,
24:37
i can't remember a single treat
24:40
it like the the last fifty or or seventy republicans
24:42
even though they illicit is just
24:44
a law of averages say the democrats have
24:47
a legal issues tubes why is
24:49
it that we're seeing so
24:51
much focused systems republican
24:53
conservative causes and does it create an automatic
24:56
perception of people that's now the
24:58
f b i become a political police on a law enforcement
25:00
police agency yeah of course it doesn't
25:03
and the reason that we're seeing it is because it think
25:05
it's very intentional it's think they're weaponizing
25:08
these agencies against republicans and
25:10
against insurgents because they don't want
25:12
us in action during the election
25:15
specifically because they see only
25:17
two possible results in the election
25:19
they win or , cheat and when
25:22
and that's the way they look at it they are totalitarian
25:25
by nature and they believe that they
25:27
should control everything and so everything can tell you
25:29
from being out there was drafted
25:31
the or actually regular people are
25:33
scared of the f b i write out there scared the f
25:35
b i showing up by people asking me in our organization
25:38
should we be fearful i just had
25:40
our outside counsel prepare a memo telling
25:43
us what to do should the f b i knock on our door
25:45
i never expected that i would need something
25:47
like that would , sharing that with
25:49
the movement and so what they're trying to do
25:51
is to is to chill
25:53
political speech and political activity
25:56
and it's actually quite successful
25:58
people are very nervous about
25:59
the federal government coming after them and
26:02
it's not unreasonable for people to be nervous about
26:04
that
26:05
i'm had a code word in the speech and all
26:07
of the folks around and music that be
26:09
the dangerous tape are trying to subvert democracy
26:12
money i think he means by that is we
26:14
want to quash descent and on i
26:16
look at the history of his nations right from
26:18
his mom and a birth it was born as
26:20
a nation of dissent a nations
26:22
are people could speak their mind and battle of out
26:24
in the best idea when when to majority rule
26:26
on constitutional republic it's the idea
26:29
of that descent now is openly
26:31
being discussed as needing to be crossed
26:35
that that is what about allowing descent
26:37
will allow people to subvert democracy seems like
26:39
it's a complete opposite of our democracy
26:42
is how much do
26:44
you think everyday people realize it's the
26:46
end goal of the last right now is to crush
26:48
dissent yeah i think
26:50
that is the end goal of laughter affect
26:52
people's perception of that is
26:55
absolutely accurate and
26:57
, this is so funny town because whatever
26:59
they accuse us of his
27:01
projection of this projection of truth of i've
27:04
heard that so many times does
27:06
it serve and so the iowa that would
27:08
explain why absolutely true in this moment they're
27:10
calling a fascist three
27:12
the the inventor of fascism
27:14
as the system was mostly
27:17
mussolini said that fascism to be defined
27:20
as everything inside the state nothing
27:22
outside of the stage and nothing
27:24
against the states and then is essentially
27:26
the manifesto of the democrat party ah there's
27:28
nothing that they can't touch
27:31
with government they believe that everything
27:33
should be handled by governments and
27:35
now they've added the last plank
27:37
of mussolini's three place which is
27:39
there should be no dissent and they are coordinating
27:42
specifically with the social media giants the tech
27:44
companies and lots of other corporations
27:47
to crush dissent so they are acting
27:49
as fascists people's perceptions
27:52
are correct in that regard really
27:54
remarkable to see this moments this
27:56
won't turn will be susie negative attention
27:58
the effort to crusts
27:59
the spared in the center of the convention
28:02
of states moment the second but before i do
28:04
be i know you're always looking for novel ideas
28:07
and and a scenario that could play out next year
28:09
as we could have republicans could have just
28:11
been chamber of the congress the could above
28:13
for the stomach and the white house and so
28:15
the budget dance becomes what we've seen often
28:18
in past years a muddled mess
28:20
there's an idea that andy biggs
28:23
and floated right here on the show about a
28:25
week or so ago of resurrecting
28:27
an old rule it's been around but even that
28:29
since eighteen seven d
28:32
six seventy seven it looks at him it's
28:34
goal it's called the whole mineral
28:36
and what it proposes is
28:38
that any member of congress can alter
28:41
a spending know and appropriations op's
28:44
on a majority vote so that you can define
28:46
to predict of agency or bureaucrats
28:49
or program if it isn't complying with the
28:51
wishes of government hasn't been around
28:53
the canon tinkered with it back and twenty seven team
28:55
a par i'd never really used it's bringing
28:57
this back in allowing the appropriations
28:59
lot of beats the enforcement
29:01
a mechanism of the well of congress would you think
29:04
about idea
29:04
i love that idea and use you asked
29:07
earlier what i thought kevin mccarthy had
29:09
to do to be real leader that the he
29:11
get that will past and allows members
29:13
to propose among men men and
29:16
then are quite a simple majority vote to
29:18
to insert the things under the home and rocks
29:21
i literally they can take out any
29:23
amount of money in the bill they could say for example
29:25
of i said you know we're not going to find those
29:27
eighty seven thousand agents in the ira
29:30
the cafe where to get rid of bureaucrats
29:32
like anthony anthony thousand
29:34
it allows them to specifically target
29:36
with a lack of appropriations the lack
29:39
of spending money anything that they want you
29:41
in the program and i think this comports
29:43
with the will of the framers of the constitution
29:46
all spending was soon issued in the house and
29:48
they didn't want the house to be able to be blackmailed
29:50
me forced to spend money on things
29:52
that didn't comport with their wishes and so i
29:54
think this is a fantastic idea i think
29:57
if mccarthy will get the south
29:59
are get voted on
29:59
haven't used it
30:01
added you'd be an american here yeah
30:03
it's it's actually getting some fractional talks a lot
30:05
of folks in the congress in
30:07
certainly the house freedom caucus
30:09
innocent people outside the house freedom caucus love
30:12
the i b m on the republican side
30:14
so i think it's got some a momentum very
30:16
interesting to see if that turns up
30:18
to be one of the items in kevin
30:20
mccarthy his agenda when he unveils
30:22
it later this month or less certain for
30:24
the last segment of the enemy here mark to
30:27
the certainly work done your nearly two thirds
30:29
of the way to i'm thirty four states of he gets
30:31
at nineteen now could get twenty one pretty
30:33
soon as , get closer
30:35
of the aerial attacks to the news
30:37
media into a lead us organizations are
30:40
mounting and i wanted to address some
30:42
of the things that people are saying it seems
30:44
to me it's like they realize
30:46
the constitution states is potentially a
30:48
reality it's and it scares anyone
30:51
who likes a big government or a big
30:53
administrative state am i misreading those
30:55
articles no in fact it's
30:57
funny the first big hit teeth came out
30:59
from business insider about six weeks ago
31:02
ago one of the things that they said over and over
31:04
and the article that they were horrified because we
31:06
could actually call a convention of states and
31:09
like congress the president and the courts couldn't
31:11
do anything about it
31:12
they were horrified by that and i look
31:15
at those get into said yeah
31:17
the exactly right that's
31:19
exactly what fraternity were trying to return
31:21
the power to the american people
31:23
i would say that was interesting i mean other
31:25
than the stuff they are we talk personal trash
31:27
about anybody involved in essence course
31:29
but when they talk about the movement in what it had the power
31:32
to do they were entirely right and they feared
31:34
that were second their ability to control
31:36
the administrative state from washington d c
31:39
and thus control the lives of americans such
31:41
as i read those articles i literally thought well
31:43
i probably would have paid you to write the system
31:46
is it can lead directly
31:48
related by the way that young and funding about
31:50
assists this assists what's the
31:52
founding fathers saw as the
31:55
solution said we get to this moment
31:57
in history since they also since when
31:59
they speak out against the financially speaking out against
32:01
your movement there's actually speaking
32:03
out against the wisdom of the founding fathers ukraine's
32:05
discrimination it's so amazing
32:08
that it absolutely true and so we
32:10
have the hit piece by business insider msnbc
32:13
by so everybody picked it up and
32:16
then amazingly about ten days ago
32:18
a former senator from with cancer see i'm
32:20
sure you remember some people will russ feingold
32:22
from wisconsin laughter and
32:25
ever to serve he wrote an entire book
32:27
attacking convention of states i'm
32:29
named in the prologue us senator rick
32:31
santorum who were first is named in the prologue
32:33
are we are apparently the most dangerous people
32:35
in america right now that book
32:37
was picked up a b c prime time news
32:40
did a fifteen minute interview on a new york
32:42
times covered it's all over the place on
32:44
the left to his credit recital
32:47
, us very seriously and he said
32:49
the left ought to be very worried because
32:52
he people are way further along even
32:54
then the numbers indicate these are serious
32:56
people with serious funding doing serious
32:59
work and they're way ahead of us on the left and
33:01
then he said all the stuff you know they're going to take the power away
33:03
from washington d c they're going to take the power away
33:05
from the administrative states are they're
33:07
going to get rid of the department of education and return
33:09
it to the states they're going to get rid of the piano
33:11
returning to the states and all that i said yes
33:14
hallelujah i mean that is
33:16
we're trying to do so you nailed
33:18
it and honestly treated us more seriously
33:20
and with more respect than some on the idea of course
33:23
he doesn't like what we're trying to do he's not quite
33:25
about that but that was a warning
33:27
shot that he signed up to the radical left in america
33:30
that they need to fight against
33:32
it's so interesting there are
33:34
what's three ballot initiatives his father
33:36
two or three that are be on the ballot this fall for
33:38
tremendous a gap there aren't any that i'm aware
33:41
of john okay for sunday's i thought alaska
33:43
had put it on the ballot but i might be wrong about
33:46
they actually have something or what what alaska's got
33:48
going enough talk to those folks they've got something
33:50
going on their own constitution isis
33:53
that's whether to have a constitutional convention
33:55
they have that opportunity to put that on the ballot so
33:57
they're looking to do some reforms that there
33:59
the constitution which hasn't scored some very
34:02
radical left wing stuffed in conservatives
34:04
up there looking to overturn that i see
34:06
such as the focus of the not that's not the federal
34:08
convention the seats and were all talking about know
34:11
and you can't do that as a ballot initiative because
34:13
the constitution itself itself says
34:15
the legislature's have to cough that's
34:17
a point as a disincentive to make some sense
34:20
to me and got i'm skid row that's
34:22
when you look at this now though be a lot
34:24
of energy coming out as elections in
34:26
a month ask you where
34:29
that image he should be focused if republicans
34:31
and one or more of the chambers of congress
34:33
on november ninth where do you start
34:35
that energy i mean crime and face and seem
34:38
to be the same as same county all seem
34:40
to be so critically threatening right
34:42
now but it's where would you say hey republicans
34:45
on day one start here on the
34:47
map yeah i mean if it were me on day one i would
34:49
start with the economy and energy because
34:51
energy and are related with the economy the american
34:53
people are suffering and you have
34:55
to address the suffering of suffering american people
34:58
and the way to do that sort
35:00
of the republicans quickly and easily
35:02
is the address the size and scope of the federal government
35:05
card
35:05
the budget stop defending
35:08
because the spending is leading to the inflation
35:10
inflation is that it's a blind tax
35:12
taking money out of people's pockets and
35:14
we've got to get inflation under control by the
35:17
way it's gonna be some painting getting inflation
35:19
under control so people are going to have to be tolerant of
35:21
that but inflation is the first thing to
35:23
tackle freeing up our energy markets and
35:25
working to help make us energy independent again
35:27
there's only so much republicans can do
35:29
on that because the president has a lot of authority
35:31
there but they need to be pushing on that
35:34
directed at you think that i would focus on first
35:36
and then i would go to education
35:38
and putting education back in the control
35:41
of local people stopping on a madness
35:43
that's going on in our education system
35:46
those are probably that would be the top of my
35:48
list do like the idea of idea parents below writes
35:50
something he gets enshrined aware what's was
35:52
something school districts just can't take away from parents
35:55
yeah you don't have to think about whether i really want
35:57
that at the federal level i'm i'm i'm concerned
35:59
when we impose conservative
36:01
thing that the federal level that than the left
36:03
looks for that says hey when we get power was composed
36:06
the liberal
36:08
and i really look i i
36:10
i'm not necessarily opposed to that in
36:12
this sense if it really is a bill of
36:14
rights then that means in california
36:17
that the leftist parents can do whatever they want
36:19
and i'm a fan that i don't like what they're going to do
36:21
but i want them to be able to do whatever she wanted to have that
36:23
power and that's right so if the bill of rights
36:26
genuinely gives parents the power
36:28
at the local level in the school districts
36:30
all over the country then i would be in favor of yeah
36:33
that's a great interesting thing is to be fun to see if that shows
36:35
up in some of the ideas and the next few
36:37
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36:39
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37:30
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37:36
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weekend long including on sunday
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you're gonna want to hear the interview we did with jim jordan
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who was smeared by the f b i
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