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So our first guest today, Guy is senator Ron
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Johnson from the great state of Wisconsin, and he's kind
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enough to join us. Senator, great to have you on
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the show serve. Well,
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guys, I hope you're doing well.
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We are. And we wanna get to your race
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because the polls have you up and a lot of interesting
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dynamics in Wisconsin, but I Wanna
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start with this story we had overnight. The
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outsourced censorship, the
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homeland security department working
1:03
with a private consortium of four groups
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say go out and target in content
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that affects twenty two million tweets,
1:10
five thousand websites, twenty one news
1:12
sites, kind of an enemies list, they're censoring
1:14
things, not always on a truth
1:16
or a velocity basis. And
1:18
then afterward, those same groups
1:20
get well, they get money from the Biden administration for
1:23
the federal government your thoughts, you've been
1:25
worried about this censorship speaking out about it,
1:27
investigating it. What do you think of this new revelation?
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Well,
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first of all, once again, gray reporting
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on your part, your organization's part.
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You know, listen, this is troubling.
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This is trouble every American. It looks
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like what the federal government is trying to do
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is skirt the law, trying to figure
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out some way in some way shape
1:47
or form that it can impact and
1:49
sensor Americans. A
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bridge free speech. I do
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not want the federal government to be the arbiters
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of truth
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that would be a terrible thing, but
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it seems like, you know, these agencies
2:02
within DHS, whether it's
2:04
SIS or the Ministry of Truth,
2:07
That is exactly what the the Biden administration
2:09
is trying to accomplish here. So it should trouble
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everybody. We're continuing to look
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into this. I'm glad that you opened
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up our eyes to this possibility, but
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we're gonna dig into this because this is troubling.
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Yeah. Out
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of this.
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Yes. It is. And senator, I
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think for a lot of Americans, when they when
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they think of the Department of Homeland Security
2:28
and protecting us from terrorist attacks
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and an outside attack when they
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see those sites turning around
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and focusing on American citizens,
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I think we all have to wonder what being
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sacrificed within that department
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to protect us from from outside
2:43
attacks. Is that element of our national
2:45
security suffering? Yes.
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I mean, they they should not be big
2:49
brother. They should be protecting
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our homeland against, you know,
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threats that are coming that are actually
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real. as opposed to these
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political threats that
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the the
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divider in chief is always talking about. You
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know, half Americans are not
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domestic terrorists. Half of America
3:08
is not are not semi fascist.
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But that is exactly what the left is
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pushing on American, unfortunately,
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they have the power within the administration to
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utilize those agencies. Now we see
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the Partnership within Department of Justice.
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We see the politicization of the FBI.
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This is this is
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huge concern. There should be huge concern
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to Americans because the awesome
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power of government is being used against its very
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own citizens. Yeah.
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Such a great point. Sir, you've been
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leading the investigation of these FBI
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whistleblower. One of them, we had his
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story on this Show last week is
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complaint to the whistleblower or to the
3:45
Office of Special Counsel, Stephen Friend,
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you have gone to his defense trying
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to get him protected. Tell us the latest
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about these whistleblower in your efforts to
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keep them protected while they make disclosures
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to you in the in the congress. Well,
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it sounds like
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more and more people of integrity, and I think
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that's the vast majority of people who serve in
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the FBI. apartment justice,
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and quite honestly, the federal agencies in general.
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It's the politicization of the leaders
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at the top. that concerns me.
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So for for anybody who wants
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to restore integrity, their agencies,
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they have to come forward. They
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have complete protection. with
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Congress, we will protect their
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anonymity, but we'll give them the there
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was some lower protection, but we the
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American public deserves the
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truth. And so I'm very grateful
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for those individuals that have had the courage to
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come forward, and more and more are
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coming forward. We're gonna learn a lot more.
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Senator,
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I want to pivot to your
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race. We are just, what, thirty nine
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days out from midterm elections,
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and the poll numbers show that you have a substantial
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lead over your opponent, Mandela
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Barnes, and we're seeing a trend. It
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seems like among Democrats where for the last
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couple years, they have taken pretty
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radical stances on some things. John Federman
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in Pennsylvania with releasing
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second degree felons. Katie Hobbs has her own
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issues. And your opponent
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was a big proponent of defunding
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the police, but now he is having to do
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an about face and walk back on those things. Is that
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from public pressure in Wisconsin people
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opposing that idea? No.
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I think most Americans oppose defining
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the police. The vast majority of Americans
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truly appreciate not a great put
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for the service and sacrifice of law enforcement.
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They realize that as the prime
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directive of the government, the
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primary responsibilities to keep our streets,
5:33
our neighborhoods, our nation safe.
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So, no, it's just I am running
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against the radical leftist. By
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the way, I I think it's a dead even race.
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I would take nothing for granted that this
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is Wisconsin where very divided
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state. What I'm trying to do is I'm
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trying to do what president Biden
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said in his inaugural dress to unify and heal
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this nation. That's what we need to do.
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A divided nation is a weakened nation.
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And unfortunately, these radical leftists
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are exacerbating the
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divide. And
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so, no, this is
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Mandela Barnes is is far too
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radical, far too extreme for Wisconsin.
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I think if there is a shift in the polls,
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that's probably what's happening. Howard
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Bauchner: Yeah, and
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it's interesting senator because you have
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kept things on the issues. And
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A few months ago, the polls had Barnes up, you
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down. Democrats poured millions upon
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millions upon millions of dollars of
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ads and flyers into your state. But
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you've just stayed educating the
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public. This is what Mandela Barnes said. This is what
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he said. This is what he stands for. This is what
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I've done. What I've stand for. The fact that
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the polls almost almost certainly moved. Everyone
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shows the polls moving It kinda
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shows that voters still care about issues
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and facts as opposed to Glitzy
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ads and flyers and attack brochures.
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Is that one lesson we might learn from the the
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early part of this race? Well,
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John must face it. The Democrats can't
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defend their their record. I
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mean, their policies have had just such dis
6:55
disastrous results. The open border, the
6:57
flooded deadly drugs, forty year high inflation,
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record gasoline prices, which they
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purposely drove higher to force us
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all into electric vehicles rising crime.
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We don't have babies for me to feed
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their infant, so they can't defend their
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record. So all we have are
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lies, distortions, character
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assassination, and the politics of
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personal destruction. And it
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looks like the truth
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through prevail. Let's hope the truth through prevail.
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because that's that's what we have. But the problem
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is it's not a level playing field. The
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the the RadiCap has the media the bulk
7:28
of the media on its side. So we
7:31
we need to pay to get our truth
7:33
out. ron johnsonson at
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com We can't let up, but
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we we've gotta continue to convey the truth.
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Yeah. So
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important. Yeah. Senator,
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we've just got a few minutes left. I wanted
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to ask about this recent concerning report
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that
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federal agencies are purchasing data. They
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are tracking Americans through their
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locational data on their phones. And
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I know some people would say, well, I'm not doing anything
7:55
wrong, so it doesn't really matter, but I don't think
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that's the point. Is it? No.
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Again, we
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read novels in high school about the
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nineteen eighty four, you know, the
8:06
brave new world, animal farm.
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you know, these things seem to becoming
8:10
true in America, and it's it's very troubling. I
8:12
I just met with the some immigrants
8:15
from Russia. that came in the in
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the late seventies. You know, they're able to escape the
8:19
Soviet Union. And they they they are
8:21
so frightened about what's happening in America
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because they see kind of a
8:25
parallel system is starting to occur here in this
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country and it frightens them. They they escaped
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that. They they didn't come here to America
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to have the same thing happen to them. So
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what what America represents is
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is freedom. And when you have a
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government continue to increase its power and
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then use that power and turn
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that power against its own citizens,
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that needs to concern every American.
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Yeah.
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It does. Sorry about forty seconds
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left. Real quickly, I spent some time in
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Wisconsin, got my college degree. They're met my wife here. It's one
8:54
of my favorite places. The people of
8:56
Wisconsin have their thumb on the pulse
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of America. What are the two or three issues they tell
9:00
you are most important? We've got about thirty seconds.
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Well, again,
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it's it's what I listed. You know, the
9:05
rising inflation gas prices,
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but literally most they are
9:10
concerned about we're losing this country. This
9:12
is this is really election. This is
9:14
a fight the and soul of America. They recognize that they
9:16
are highly concerned about it.
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Yeah.
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There's no doubt about it. Well, we're we're gonna be
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watching your race and all the work you're doing
9:23
here in wash Did you ever let up one bit
9:25
even as you campaign? Sir, great to have
9:27
you on the the show team. Thanks for an
9:29
update. Take care. Alright. folks.
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We're gonna take a quicker commercial break. We'll be right back
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after these messages.
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Welcome
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back everybody joining us now is one of the
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most important voices in both the
9:44
Court of Law and the Court of Public
9:46
Opinion. A voice of Reason, a voice of
9:48
Principal, and the author of I think my
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favorite book of the year, the price of
9:52
principle, why? Because it
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tells a story of why standing behind your
9:56
principles, you could be canceled on today's
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culture. It's insane he is none other
10:00
than Alan Dershowitz. Professor Dershowitz, good to
10:02
have you on the show. Good to
10:04
be on your show. Thanks. Thanks for joining
10:06
us by phone. I wanna ask you quickly.
10:08
We've had a lot of stories in the last few days
10:10
about this whistleblower. Now it's one
10:13
whistleblower. It's one set of allegations
10:15
we need to check-in to them,
10:17
but he lays out a very
10:19
serious concern that the FBI has
10:21
weaponized the use of
10:23
tactical teams, SWAT teams go arrest
10:25
people on misdemeanors and to do
10:27
other things that he says violate not only the
10:29
FBI manual, but the
10:31
constitutional rights of some of these January
10:33
sixth defendants When you hear that, what
10:35
thoughts run for your mind? That
10:36
we're in a tragic
10:39
situation today where we
10:41
find that it's the Liberals, the
10:43
Civilitarians, former
10:45
ACLU members, who are
10:47
standing behind these incredibly oppressive
10:50
mechanism that the FBI is
10:52
selectively using and
10:54
weaponizing this time against
10:56
Republicans. And the reason I'm so concerned as
10:58
a liberal that somebody used to be on the national
11:00
board of the ACOU is, of
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course, once these tactics
11:04
are accepted and precedents
11:06
are established, They can be
11:08
used against anybody. They can be used
11:10
against you and me. They can be used against the
11:12
left. They can be used against people in
11:14
the Democratic administration when the
11:17
Republicans come power. That's the way
11:19
banana republics begin. You know, when a banana
11:21
republic, if you lose an election, you lose your
11:23
freedom. And that's
11:25
a danger that's going on now
11:27
with efforts to try to criminalize
11:30
everything that Trump did, everything
11:32
is associated I'm now representing
11:34
Michael Mondelli, selling clothes.
11:36
And, yeah, he's making statements which I
11:38
disagree with, but the idea
11:40
of tracking them down at a
11:42
hardy's and taking his phone
11:44
away from him. That's not the way it
11:46
should happen in America. Yeah.
11:48
So
11:48
And that's why why
11:51
everyone should go check out your book, the price of
11:53
principal. But I wanted to ask you about
11:55
something else that I think is observably
11:58
dangerous this was something John and I were
11:59
discussing yesterday. The fact that not
12:02
only the FBI, but also the DOJ
12:04
seems to be infected with
12:06
many more legal, political activists
12:08
than it used to be every once in a while you would have
12:10
one of these folks, but the DOJ, our
12:13
legal system surely seems to have
12:15
a lot of of these young activist
12:17
lawyers. Do you agree? Yes.
12:19
And what's happening is law schools are
12:21
turning them out, colleges are turning them
12:23
out. And when
12:26
I told at law school for fifty years, I
12:28
never expressed my opinions about anything.
12:31
I didn't wanna teach my students what to
12:33
think. I want you to teach them how
12:35
to think. And that's no longer
12:37
happening in law schools. It's no longer
12:39
happening. around the country. And of course,
12:41
we're turning out lawyers who are doctrinaire
12:44
and polemical and ideological. And
12:47
the current view in law school
12:49
is that Trump and his associates are so
12:51
bad and this is so different than anything
12:53
we've ever experienced before that
12:55
the constitution is
12:57
not relevant. that we
12:59
should change the constitution, abandon
13:01
the constitution. People don't know
13:04
history. They don't know that they said that when
13:06
we detained one hundred and ten thousand Japanese
13:08
Americans. They don't know that people said that
13:10
when they passed the alias in this transaction.
13:12
So the Lincoln suspended the rate of paid
13:14
because it's always been different, but we've
13:17
always maintained our constitution. And
13:19
now I worry that civilitarians
13:22
and the guardians, the traditional
13:24
guardians constitution, the ACLU,
13:26
are behind these
13:29
repressive measures, and if not behind
13:31
them, certainly, silent. Yeah.
13:32
It really is remarkable. I wanna talk to
13:35
you about a tactic that we're learning a lot
13:37
more about in the law enforcement community.
13:39
It goes beyond just politicalization
13:41
and weaponization of law enforcement.
13:43
It's a real interesting civil rights
13:46
issue. Police departments
13:48
in the I have been buying the geolocation
13:50
data of Americans without a
13:52
warrant and essentially tracking them to
13:54
South cases, to track people that
13:56
are suspicions Yes, it happened with
13:58
January six, but it's happened with murder defendants.
14:00
It's happened with fraud
14:02
defendants. The idea that the
14:04
government could get your data from a
14:06
data broker and track your entire
14:08
life pattern from your phone without
14:10
a warrant. Do you have any concerns about
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where that's headed in America right
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now? great
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concerns. I mean, the only reason we
14:18
permit private people to
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track you for business purposes
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is because we assume that it won't end up in
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government hands. If the government
14:27
wanted to do the same thing they'd need
14:29
a warrant, I mean, I mentioned they
14:31
tracked Michael Andell, He was
14:33
at hunting with his friends and he was at
14:35
parties. How do they find them? Did they buy
14:37
data? Or did they have
14:39
a GPS on him? Or did they track his
14:41
cell phone? whatever it
14:43
is, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm at the
14:45
opera now. Waiting for you
14:47
to see opening night at the Metropolitan
14:49
opera. don't want the government to know
14:51
that, now they do, because I've disclosed it
14:53
on your wonderful show. But
14:56
I don't want the government knowing
14:58
where I go from my entertainment, who
15:00
I'm with them with my beautiful, fantastic
15:02
wife. But what if I warrant? I
15:04
mean, you know, or what if somebody
15:06
else warrant? it's just too much big
15:08
brother. And the
15:10
connections now between private
15:13
industry and the government is becoming one of
15:15
the great issues 21st
15:17
century, Google and
15:19
Facebook, and whether
15:21
or not Google and Facebook have
15:23
to take instructions from the government
15:26
I'm a big supporter of vaccinations for
15:29
COVID, but I'm not a big supporter of the
15:31
government telling
15:31
howling Facebook
15:33
to have to ban people who have
15:35
different points of view. I mean, the greatness
15:37
of America has always been different
15:39
points of view, nuanced, calibration,
15:43
complexity. That's what
15:45
democracy should be about, not
15:47
single minded solutions. People are
15:49
so sure they know the truth today, that
15:51
they don't think dissent is
15:53
necessary or do processes necessary,
15:56
and that's the death of democracy.
15:58
And, Alan, another arena
15:59
where we are seeing a very uncomfortably
16:02
close tie between
16:04
the DOJ and now
16:06
social media, we we
16:08
had the FBI whistleblower's
16:10
attorney on yesterday, Jason Foster, and
16:12
we were talking to him about the
16:14
Steve Guest's wife whose
16:17
Facebook page was taken down. Now she --
16:19
Right. -- doesn't post anything publicly. It's
16:21
just her messages. So we've
16:23
got this situation I mean, we are
16:25
creeping so close to what you were talking
16:27
about big brother. Does it get worse before
16:29
it gets better, or do you think the pendulum
16:31
is finally gonna swing? I
16:33
hope
16:33
the pendulum will swing. I think this
16:36
supreme court, by the way, both the liberals
16:38
and the conservatives, because this is not a liberal
16:40
conservative issue. This is an issue.
16:42
civil liberties that ought to be equally applicable
16:44
to all. I think this court
16:46
may put an end to it. It's
16:49
putting an end to a
16:51
lot of excesses and extremes
16:53
like ratio affirmative
16:57
action and some other things.
16:59
I think that it certainly has
17:01
to deal with the issue of the relationship
17:03
between government and private social
17:05
media, which is so dominant today in the
17:07
world. Does the first amendment apply to
17:09
Google exactly in the same way it applies to The
17:11
New York Times These
17:14
are hard, hard questions. And I
17:16
think this court is going to have to deal
17:18
with them sooner or later. Howard Bauchner:
17:20
Yeah.
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And, Alan, now we got about a couple minutes left.
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I want to ask this, While the ACLU and some
17:24
of the traditional civil liberties have kind of stepped
17:26
out of the debate, in some cases, they're sanctioning
17:28
the current approach that we're taking, there's a
17:30
whole new generation of
17:33
civil liberties coming up through fire
17:35
and other things. In a funny way, there's a
17:37
rejuvenation of the civil liberties
17:39
movement, but under different banners and under
17:41
different circumstances, Why is that important? And what
17:43
can we do to foster that conversation?
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I completely
17:46
agree. Fire has become a really
17:49
important organization. It's picked
17:51
up from the ACOU. The ACOU
17:53
doesn't dare to
17:55
go on campuses and
17:58
defend conservative students and
18:00
speak out against censorship
18:03
by by the left on college campus and
18:05
fires picked that up and it's been so
18:07
successful on college campuses that
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it's now extended itself and
18:11
it's taken over a lot of what the ACO
18:13
you used to do. The
18:16
irony is that conservatives
18:19
today, genuine conservatives. I'm not talking
18:21
about the crazies on the right, the neo Nazis
18:23
and the Fascist. Real genuine
18:25
conservatives, the Bill Buckley conservatives,
18:28
John Stalin Conservatives. These are people
18:30
who today are taking over
18:32
the responsibility for defending civil
18:34
liberties from what used to be Liberals and
18:38
and democrats and leftist
18:40
and members of the ACOU. It's a
18:42
very important development. And it's pretty remarkable. We
18:44
got about thirty seconds left. You have
18:46
a fifty first book coming out. It's amazing. Tell us what your top is
18:48
gonna be. Well, the
18:51
fifty first book is called
18:53
I will we don't know the title
18:55
yet. who shall live and who shall
18:57
die. Today is Russia, Shonna, and we say
18:59
that prayer every day -- Right. -- on Russia, it's
19:01
not a who shall live and who shall die. But
19:03
the books about how the law deals with death and life
19:06
decisions while ranging from
19:08
abortion to
19:10
wars to gun controlled capital punishment
19:13
to assist with suicide. Anything dealing
19:15
with death and life, I put them all
19:18
together in a in a little Yep. Can't
19:20
wait to read that. Alright, Alan. Thanks so much
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for head on a commercial break. Great to have you
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on folks. We'll be back.
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Welcome back
19:31
America. I'm proud to
19:33
say that my home state, the great Commonwealth
19:35
of Virginia, is ground zero for the
19:37
parents rights movement in America. We saw that
19:39
with governor Glenn Youngkin's extraordinary
19:42
victory last year. And right
19:44
now, our next guess is in
19:46
the forefront. OF LEADING THAT CHARGE TO
19:48
RETURN, POWER, BACK TO PARENTS.
19:50
SHE IS THE twenty six SUPERTENDENT OF PUBLIC
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IN STRUCTION IN Virginia, CHELI AND BAILO
19:54
SUPERTRENDED, GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON. Thanks
19:56
for
19:56
having me on John, Amanda.
19:59
So,
19:59
superintendent, we've seen some protests today in
20:02
Loudoun County just holding away from
20:04
my home. But there's a great
20:06
misnomer about this. A lot of people think that the policies
20:08
that are being protested or have been
20:10
reversed. We're in all the school districts, but my
20:12
understanding is most of the
20:14
school districts never implemented these
20:16
policies in the first place. Am I right about
20:18
that?
20:18
Yeah, as we understand about
20:20
ten percent of the school divisions across the
20:22
Commonwealth implemented the previous guidelines
20:26
that were provided by the previous administration.
20:29
And that leaves about ninety
20:31
percent of the school divisions
20:33
that use their own
20:35
or a varied version of
20:38
another policy. these
20:39
these school transgender policies. I
20:41
mean, this is something that I feel like nobody
20:43
was really having conversations about
20:46
ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.
20:48
For people like you and policymakers, people who
20:51
are intimately involved in education
20:53
and curriculum, how
20:55
difficult is it to navigate that would
20:57
imagine that's probably one of the hardest things
20:59
you've done with your tenure in education.
21:01
Howard Bauchner:
21:01
Yeah, so that's first
21:04
well, a great question. And oftentimes,
21:07
reporters, journalists, parents, lots of
21:09
folks ask, what's the most important
21:11
issue in education? And the answer is
21:13
pretty simple. Every issue is important
21:15
in education. And today,
21:17
this is really important in
21:19
education, and we must address
21:21
it. Almost every issue in in education also
21:23
is does not have a black or
21:25
white yes or no answer.
21:28
It's complicated. It's it's
21:30
grayish most days and this is no
21:33
exception. So we'll continue navigating
21:35
through it together, but really
21:37
the guidelines, the twenty twenty
21:40
two policies really
21:42
boil down to two things. Number
21:44
one, making sure that we protect
21:46
and respect the dignity
21:48
of students, all students. We
21:50
want schools that are free from discrimination,
21:53
from intolerance, from bullying, and from
21:56
harassment. And schools
21:58
have have an obligation,
22:00
a legal obligation to address
22:03
any instances of of
22:05
discrimination or harassment or bullying
22:07
immediately, and that is
22:09
that includes every single student.
22:12
The second part of the policies is
22:14
really centered around parents and
22:16
parents being the primary decision makers
22:19
and the primary
22:22
adults who are involved in students
22:24
lives, not schools, not the state.
22:26
Howard Bauchner:
22:26
Yes, that's an important concept. wanna
22:29
ask a little bit in the last segment we had, the
22:31
great law professor Alan Dershell with soundings. He
22:33
said one of the concerns he has about
22:35
education top to bottom is educators
22:37
have moved from teaching children how
22:39
to think to what to think. And that's been
22:41
the real indoctrination point in education
22:43
What is Virginia doing to make sure those things
22:45
don't happen that kids are learning
22:48
how to how to learn, how to think,
22:50
but not what to think? Well,
22:51
first of all, the mention of Alexander Schwartz just
22:53
has me a little starstruck, and those are
22:55
big shoes to fill. So I'm III
22:58
hope I'm worthy. The second
23:00
thing is we heard governor Youngkin on the
23:03
campaign trail over the course of the
23:05
last year and since he got into
23:07
office in January talk
23:09
about the very same thing. We want
23:11
students to learn the history
23:13
of America. We want them to learn about
23:15
life, the good and the bad.
23:17
but we want to teach them in a way
23:20
that teaches them how to think,
23:22
not what to think. And
23:24
that's vitally important. Now, these
23:27
model policies don't touch on
23:29
classroom instruction or curriculum
23:31
or standards. They're really again
23:33
more about the dignity and protection
23:36
of every student and in school. Howard
23:37
Bauchner:
23:38
Yeah, I mean, we all, I think, grew up in
23:40
a time when when you went to college, you
23:42
were faced with opposing ideas, and that was
23:44
kind of the point of college, but it doesn't seem like that.
23:46
That's what they want to create as far as the
23:48
culture on college campuses these days. I wanted
23:50
to ask you about these twenty me
23:52
to model policies because one of the things that
23:55
you address very directly
23:57
is is privacy. And I
23:59
think for a lot of people when they hear
24:01
student privacy, There are
24:03
concerns because we have been hearing
24:05
so many stories lately about students
24:07
who may or may
24:09
not have ever even expressed any
24:12
curiosity about another gender or
24:14
gender fluidity and then they go
24:16
to a school counselor and then the school
24:18
counselor says, don't say anything to your
24:20
parents. We're gonna address this here at school.
24:22
With respect to privacy within that
24:24
twenty twenty two model policies,
24:27
what do you mean there? What all is entailed there?
24:29
Yeah. So
24:30
a couple of things. And
24:32
number one is that oftentimes
24:34
issues like this and many other issues
24:36
that teenagers go through are
24:38
some of the most difficult decisions and
24:41
times that they go through in their
24:43
entire lives. we want to make sure that
24:45
this is a yes and response. Right?
24:47
We want there to
24:49
be a nice support system that's
24:51
school and in the community with the different resources
24:53
that are available. But those decisions
24:55
and those difficult conversations
24:57
really should happen first and foremost
24:59
in the home. And so as
25:01
soon as the school or the state
25:04
enters the picture and says, don't
25:06
tell your parents, we want
25:08
there to be a really good reason
25:10
for that. such as the student is
25:12
going to be harmed or abused. We've
25:14
had safeguards that are in
25:16
law for years. We've reiterated those
25:18
in this policy if a student is going to be harmed or
25:21
abused as a result of
25:23
informing parents, then there's a different
25:25
protocol to follow. But
25:27
I have yet to meet a parent who doesn't want
25:29
to be part of that major decision
25:31
and other major decisions
25:33
in their child slides.
25:35
and we should give them that option
25:38
and provide support for
25:40
students as they navigate – as students and
25:42
families as they navigate through some of
25:44
these difficult times. The other
25:48
safeguard, I guess, that I don't know if
25:50
it's a safeguard. Well, it is a safeguard, but
25:52
it's also a law. that's been
25:54
on the books for years and that we've
25:56
reiterated in this guidance is
25:58
that if there is
26:01
cause a legitimate cause for
26:03
concern or excuse me, that
26:05
a school, an educator, is a
26:07
mandatory reporter. If they expect abuse
26:09
or neglect is taking place at
26:12
home. So that means that
26:14
if there is an inherent risk
26:17
to the student and and that's being
26:19
acted out at home that we
26:21
wanna make sure that that that that that that
26:23
that that's addressed and that that's
26:25
reported. That's been on the books for
26:27
years and schools are mandatory
26:29
reporters for that. The third
26:31
thing is, and I believe
26:33
that thirty six times in the model
26:35
policy, the word bullying
26:37
appears. We want every single
26:39
student protected from harassment,
26:41
discrimination, bullying, intolerance.
26:44
We expect every single
26:46
educator and every single school to
26:48
immediately and swiftly deal
26:50
with instances of harassment,
26:53
discrimination, bullying, or
26:55
intolerance. And so that
26:57
is, you know, that is inherent in
26:59
the policies and that
27:01
protects the privacy and safety of all students. Alright.
27:03
Folks, we're gonna
27:03
take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back
27:05
after these messages.
27:10
He is
27:12
a great
27:13
congressman from the state
27:15
of Arizona, Andy Biggs' congressman. Great to
27:17
have you back on the
27:19
show. Thanks, John. Good to see
27:21
you and Amanda. Great to have you
27:23
answer. I wanna start with
27:25
the latest revelations about
27:27
this agent, Steven Friend, he
27:29
says that they were weaponizing the use of
27:31
SWAT teams to
27:34
go after January sixth defendants for shock
27:36
and all. even they were charged with
27:38
this mister Manners, very concerned
27:40
he says about the
27:42
security implications of hauling out that hardware,
27:45
creating a hard entry into a home
27:47
for a misdemeanor offense. When you
27:49
hear that after all the other things you've
27:51
now have ascertained about the FBI, when first
27:53
comes to mind? Well, just
27:55
a a recurring theme
27:57
of abusive power
27:59
for political purposes I mean, to
28:01
go take a SWAT team to a
28:04
misdemeanor is is absolutely ridiculous.
28:07
misdemeanor is just so people understand what a
28:09
misdemeanor is. a misdemeanor would be, like,
28:11
someone with a simple stress pass.
28:13
Even some DUIs are
28:16
are are misdemeanors or a shoplifting
28:18
or something like that. and
28:20
that's what you have here and you're going
28:22
out with these massive SWAT
28:25
teams to intimidate not
28:27
not just the specific, but the
28:29
general. So you're intimidating the specific
28:32
individual who who you want
28:34
to bring under arrest for a misdemeanor
28:36
for Pete's sake. But you also
28:38
want to cap cower cause
28:41
everybody else that's looking to
28:43
generally BE AFRAID TO
28:45
SPEAK OUT, TO PARTICIPATE
28:47
AND ACROSS THE LINE.
28:50
THAT IS NOT the way you use a SWAT
28:52
team. A SWAT team has meant for a very
28:54
tactical situation that you don't
28:56
have in these misdemeanors. So I John,
28:58
Amanda, this is just a
29:00
recurring theme of abusive power of
29:02
by the FBI, DOJ, and the federal
29:04
police apparatus. It's amazing.
29:06
Yeah. It's It's
29:07
a scary message that I feel like
29:10
they are trying to send. I wanna
29:12
shift over to border tip
29:14
topics breaking news. You are one
29:16
of those folks in Arizona,
29:18
but especially representing your state on Capitol
29:20
Hill who is a boy order Hark Hark,
29:22
and I know that the people of your state
29:24
appreciate that. Talk to us about this
29:26
new documentary alien
29:29
invasion and how it highlights what's happening at the
29:31
border and also renews
29:33
calls to impeach DHS Secretary
29:35
Mayankis. Yeah. I
29:35
appreciate you bringing that up. So been
29:38
down to the border so many times. I've taken
29:40
so many members of Congress. And when they
29:42
get down to the border, it changes
29:44
their very attitude about what
29:46
they think they knew about the
29:48
border and they become very intent.
29:50
They're converts. And that's what we're trying to
29:52
do. So people can really see the truth.
29:54
The upstream media doesn't show it.
29:56
you guys show it, the others on
29:59
the right show it, but
30:01
we decided to take and and
30:03
and put this documentary together of what
30:05
we saw happening and what we continue to
30:07
see happening so that
30:10
anybody would have the opportunity to
30:12
see it. So we're gonna premier that
30:14
this Thursday in Washington,
30:16
DC. And then after that, it
30:18
will be available for free
30:20
on on my my
30:22
congressional website because we want the world to see
30:24
what's happening. Because it's a
30:26
danger to you and, amenity. In
30:28
LA, you you know this as
30:30
well. And now even in Washington, D. C. you're seeing
30:32
the impacts of this, a million
30:35
fentanyl pill seized just the other day in
30:37
in Phoenix. a
30:39
million fentanyl pills, forty
30:41
percent according to DEA going to
30:43
have basically a fatal
30:45
dose of fentanyl in it. and that's
30:47
just the beginning of of the disaster
30:49
that we see because of Joe Biden. But
30:51
particularly secretary Alejandro Mayer,
30:53
who's supposed to be in charge of the
30:55
Yeah.
30:55
And do you think a I mean, obviously, people in the
30:57
border states want my orcas out. Do you
30:59
think now as the crisis from the
31:01
border has spread to every state, in
31:03
the form of fentanyl sex trafficking, child trafficking, that
31:06
there are enough Republicans
31:08
and perhaps even some Democrats willing
31:10
to vote for impeachment of the homeland security secretary?
31:13
Well, I think I think
31:14
you'd get a unanimous verdict out
31:16
of the Republicans I can only think
31:18
of a couple of Democrats that might be inclined
31:21
to vote for an impeachment, and
31:23
there they would be received
31:25
so much pressure from speaker Pelosi.
31:28
That's why this place in
31:30
January when we have a new
31:32
speaker. Yeah. So
31:33
important. Yep. Yeah.
31:35
congressmen, I wanted to ask you specifically about the
31:37
fentanyl issue because I think for
31:39
a lot of us, we witnessed during the opioid
31:42
crisis, a lot of callousness from
31:44
a certain of American society
31:46
because they would look at the opioid crisis and
31:48
say, oh, well, you know, these people are drug
31:50
addicts. They, you know, they shouldn't have been
31:52
taking those pills to begin with. And
31:54
and I I see that pervasive
31:56
attitude a little bit coming
31:58
forth with fentanyl, but a story John
32:00
and I were talking about two or three weeks ago,
32:02
a school supervisor in California
32:04
who caught a student with a bottle of it,
32:07
just opened the jar and smelled it and ended up
32:09
in the hospital. How do we
32:11
get more people to not
32:13
be cow cost against this and to look at look at it with
32:15
broad eyes and a broad perspective
32:17
and realize that this affects everybody.
32:19
It's not just OGATICS
32:21
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO IT
32:23
OR PEOPLE WHO WERE AT THE BORDER?
32:25
WELL,
32:25
WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS
32:28
discussion going because what's happening, you're exactly right,
32:30
Amanda. And John, what happens here
32:32
is you might think that you're taking
32:34
AAA percocet or
32:36
something like and and
32:39
it's it's not. It's gonna be a
32:41
counterfeit pill that has
32:43
lethal dose of fentanyl. We've
32:45
had we've seen people that have actually tried to help
32:48
individuals who were having an
32:50
overdose and they wanted to get up there and
32:52
they have died just by ingesting
32:55
the fentanyl dust on that
32:57
individual. So you you really
32:59
have to understand how deadly fentanyl
33:01
is. It just takes just a few grains
33:03
actually to kill somebody. and
33:05
you don't have to be a drug addict. You
33:07
don't have to be some,
33:10
you know, near do well.
33:12
You can be a good Samaritan.
33:15
You can be, as we in this
33:17
case, a school administrator. You can be
33:19
somebody just comes in contact with
33:21
with a fentanyl pill or a fentanyl powder, and it
33:23
it can be very deadly to you. Yes.
33:26
That's
33:26
an amazing tragedy.
33:29
heard from an officer a day, there was a woman that went to a
33:31
hotel room. Apparently, a pill was left
33:33
on the ground. She picked it up just to clean up the
33:35
hotel room and was instantly
33:37
poisoned and and sick and had to
33:39
be get an emergency injection in the hotel room.
33:41
It's just insane. One of the things
33:43
congressman that I know you
33:45
work you not only highlight the problem of the border, you're trying to
33:47
create constructive solutions. You've got new
33:49
introduce you've introduced new legislation to
33:51
end catch and release. Tell us why that's
33:54
so important. Well,
33:56
the catch and release program
33:58
is really an incentive for people to
34:00
come into the country. So what
34:02
it happens is you come into the
34:05
country, you surrender, and that's what most
34:07
people do today. we
34:09
we take them into custody. And what
34:11
happens is they then go ahead and
34:13
say, look, you know, I want
34:16
asylum. And so we will then
34:18
release them into the country. We've caught them. Now we're
34:20
releasing them. And and the
34:22
current date for a court
34:24
case on an
34:26
asylum claim is eighty six months. That's seven
34:28
years. That means that you're gonna release
34:30
somebody in for seven years. You will never see
34:32
them again. and those who do
34:34
encounter that do come back
34:36
or that we find
34:39
ninety percent plus have bogus asylum
34:41
claims. And so we we've gotta stop
34:44
that incentive to come. So that's that's
34:46
what that's what's
34:48
happening now. to people all
34:50
over the world that wanna come into the country. They
34:52
know that if they they can come over,
34:54
they could just say, hey, I wanna
34:56
asylum, and you're gonna be released into the interior of the
34:58
United States AND PROBABLY NEVER BE HEARD FROM, NEVER HEAR FROM AUTHORITIES
35:00
AGAIN. THE RULE OF LAW IS NOT
35:02
EXUSENT IN THE
35:02
BORDER RIGHT NOW UNFORTUNATELY. I WANT
35:06
to close off with something very quickly. We've got about a minute left. Wanted
35:08
to ask you about this abortion law, and Arizona
35:10
judge lifted that injunction.
35:12
Basically, lifting the abortion
35:15
or excuse me, the the abortion law. I wanted to
35:17
get your thoughts on that. Does it reflect
35:20
the sentiment of voters
35:22
of Arizona? Well,
35:23
it's an old law. I mean, for sure, because
35:25
I mean, even the injunction was issued
35:27
in the early seventies due to Roe v Wade. So
35:29
that got lifted. And the previous
35:31
law goes back in place. That law's an old law, and it
35:34
provides only an exception for the life of the
35:36
mother. So
35:38
Whether that is reflective of Arizona or not, we'll
35:40
find out because in the next
35:42
legislative session, the state legislature is gonna take
35:45
that up, and they'll have to
35:47
take that up. Alright,
35:48
folks. We're gonna take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back after these messages.
35:55
Welcome back.
35:58
We very briefly put
35:59
Biden and Harris' mental fitness
36:02
on notice joining us
36:04
now is Amber Athey, the editor of the
36:06
spectator who will help us break down all of
36:08
these questionable behaviors.
36:10
Amber, great to see you tonight. Thanks for coming back
36:12
on the show. Thank you both for
36:14
having me. Amber, maybe we're
36:16
not giving him enough credit. Maybe he has the
36:18
sixth sense and he can talk to the
36:20
dead. Maybe her spirit was in there with
36:23
them. She showed me as
36:25
big as hell. Right. Joe Biden is
36:27
the new Bruce Willis apparently.
36:30
Obviously, the simpler explanation is
36:32
that this is the latest in
36:35
a long pattern of president Joe
36:37
Biden becoming very confused. I mean, just
36:39
today, when he was at, I
36:41
believe it was
36:44
the either the FEMA headquarters or the NEA headquarters.
36:46
After he gave his remarks, he
36:48
started oddly wandering around the room his
36:52
aids were sort of following along, trying to figure out
36:54
exactly where he was going, and
36:56
no one really seemed to know what
36:59
was going on. then a couple of
37:01
weeks ago, he shook senator
37:04
Chuck Schumer's hand, and then promptly
37:06
forgot he had shaken his hand and
37:08
had to go and try to
37:10
do it again. So unfortunately, these
37:12
are the types of things that happen all the time.
37:14
If it were a one off gap, I think
37:16
it would be easier the
37:18
media, for the American people
37:20
to let this go and
37:22
ignore. But because it happens over
37:24
and over and over again, it's
37:27
obvious that there's a problem. Howard Bauchner:
37:29
Yeah, it
37:29
is. And listen, the media spent most
37:31
of twenty twenty allowing Joe Biden campaign
37:34
from his basement most days we didn't get that
37:36
sort of interaction, that vetting that we would
37:38
normally get of a fully campaigning
37:40
president. Now we're
37:42
beginning to see these sort of know it
37:44
but there's definitely something wrong. But
37:46
the much younger vice president, Kamala
37:48
Harris, well,
37:50
She finally went to a board. It wasn't our boarders. She went to the DMZ
37:52
in South Korea, but she
37:54
had a pretty tough moment too, and
37:56
this wasn't even a teleprompter problem. check
37:59
out this
37:59
clip. So the
38:01
United States shares
38:04
a very
38:06
important relationship
38:06
which is an with Korea. And
38:10
it is an alliance that is strong
38:14
enduring? Well, I know the Democrats,
38:15
you still like to say Donald Trump was a little
38:17
too close to North Korea, but now that Biden
38:20
administration's embracing them for a long
38:22
term alliance, what is up
38:24
with us? Man, the
38:26
entire Biden administration, including
38:28
the press secretary, Karine, Jean Pierre,
38:31
are just communication
38:34
bozos. They can't string a sentence together.
38:36
They're constantly throwing out the
38:38
wrong words. Biden is just constantly
38:40
confused. Kamala Harris is sort
38:42
of infamous at this point
38:44
for defining
38:46
words with there,
38:48
like, a self definition. The
38:50
banks community banks are banks that are
38:52
in the community and things of that
38:54
nature. And I wanna go back to a second for your
38:56
point about slide and being stuck in the
38:58
basement for most of his
39:00
campaign. I did some
39:02
accounting of the hours that he actually spent on the
39:04
campaign trail back when he was
39:06
calling Lids at twelve, one
39:08
o'clock in the afternoon and
39:10
discovered for an entire month he
39:12
basically worked less than forty hours
39:14
a week while campaigning and
39:16
that is not only
39:18
unacceptable for someone who's in a normal working
39:20
job, but for someone who is preparing to be
39:22
president where you're expected to
39:24
work basically all day long and
39:26
maybe get four hours of sleep. It was
39:29
just unbelievable. Yeah. That's a
39:30
great fact. I heard that before. That's amazing.
39:32
Me
39:32
neither. I know of another president who if he could have crammed forty
39:35
hours of work into twenty four hours, he
39:37
would have done that for sure. I
39:39
wanted to ask you about, you know, I remember
39:41
during the campaign, and even now as
39:44
president, members
39:46
of president will
39:48
explain things away. You see Corinne Jean
39:50
Pierre from the press podium trying to make
39:52
excuses, and they say, oh, that's just
39:56
old That's just crazy uncle Joe. Does the rest of the
39:58
world take it that lightly when they
39:59
see it? No, I don't think
40:01
so. And
40:04
I think you know, that's the reason why the media has
40:06
seen their trust plummet
40:08
completely. I mean, frankly, the
40:10
media is about as
40:12
trusted as Congress at this point by the American people. me.
40:15
And it's it's
40:17
very clear. I think
40:20
that their narratives are being busted on a
40:22
constant basis and not even just by
40:24
independent media or conservative media
40:27
but by reality. Right? Anybody with two eyes in
40:29
two years. And actually, probably one
40:32
or the other can see exactly what's
40:34
going on in the Biden
40:36
administration. When Korean Jean Pierre was asked
40:38
today about the
40:40
president forgetting that congress
40:42
and Mueller's scheme had passed away
40:45
She kept saying saying,
40:47
Congresswoman Volarsky was on the top of
40:49
his mind. Excuse
40:50
me. And
40:52
it was pretty clear that she didn't have a real explanation, so that
40:54
was the best that she could come up with.
40:57
Howard Bauchner: Yeah, listen, I think you're right.
40:58
There is a factor in America
41:02
politics If you can see it with to think
41:04
this story can be swept under. And
41:06
yesterday, I saw for the first time
41:10
some disengagement with disbelief
41:12
of what the what White House
41:14
press secretary was saying, do you think
41:17
Reporter IS REALIZED NOW THE GAME IS OVER. THEY GOT
41:19
TO STOPPET AND MAYBE THEY START COVERING THIS A LITTLE
41:21
M MORE SERIACY. I THINK SOME OF
41:23
THEM DO. I MEAN THAT WAS
41:25
REALLY THE EMPHIDUS FOR CNN switching out its
41:27
leadership. But the question is, even if
41:29
they do take it seriously, do they get
41:31
it? And I don't think that they get it.
41:33
I mean CNN should
41:36
have fired Don Lemmon instead they moved him into a morning show where
41:38
he's continuing his woke nonsense. So
41:42
they under stand that they're
41:44
not trusted. They understand that something
41:46
needs to change, but they're
41:48
still too wrapped up in their own bubble to
41:50
know exactly what kind of
41:52
change has to happen and what it is the
41:54
American people are hungry for, which is
41:56
objectivity. Amber, I wanted
41:57
to shift to the vice
41:59
press president Kamala
41:59
Harris. She has had gaffes of
42:02
her own, and we've all seen the
42:04
polling as far as her
42:06
as the preference for the DNC ticket in twenty twenty four.
42:08
What what's your take on her and her her
42:10
mental acumen and aptitude
42:12
and fitness? I
42:14
don't know that she's, you know, mentally
42:16
struggling the way that Biden
42:18
is. I think she's just not very
42:20
bright. Right? There's a difference.
42:23
between someone's mental health
42:26
degrading and someone who clearly
42:28
is just unprepared
42:30
and unqualified FOR THE JOB WHEN THERE WAS SOME A
42:32
COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT
42:34
STAFFERS LEAVING
42:36
THE VICE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE and
42:40
why they were fleeing in droves. A lot
42:42
of them said that they were basically
42:45
covering for someone who refused to
42:48
do the work. They would give her brief briefing
42:50
materials, and she wouldn't read them. And
42:52
then what's her random labor staff? So
42:54
she's completely just unqualified for the office.
42:56
Yeah. And with respect to
42:57
president Biden, the press secretary
43:00
saying that the calling
43:02
out of
43:04
a past congresswoman, it wasn't an
43:06
unusual scenario. I don't think that came across the
43:08
way that she expected it to or wanted it to. But,
43:10
Anne Marie, the editor of the spectator
43:13
and host of the podcast unfittered print. Thank you so much for being with
43:15
us, and we will be
43:18
right back.
43:21
Hi, folks.
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