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Sen. Johnson on DHS using loopholes to censor 22M tweets, 21 news sites: 'Govt wants to be arbiters of truth'

Sen. Johnson on DHS using loopholes to censor 22M tweets, 21 news sites: 'Govt wants to be arbiters of truth'

Released Sunday, 2nd October 2022
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Sen. Johnson on DHS using loopholes to censor 22M tweets, 21 news sites: 'Govt wants to be arbiters of truth'

Sen. Johnson on DHS using loopholes to censor 22M tweets, 21 news sites: 'Govt wants to be arbiters of truth'

Sen. Johnson on DHS using loopholes to censor 22M tweets, 21 news sites: 'Govt wants to be arbiters of truth'

Sen. Johnson on DHS using loopholes to censor 22M tweets, 21 news sites: 'Govt wants to be arbiters of truth'

Sunday, 2nd October 2022
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0:06

Hello,

0:06

America. Happy Sunday. So excited

0:09

to be with to you. Today, while

0:11

we're having our brunch, while we're

0:13

mowing the lawn, watching a little football, reading

0:16

the newspaper, reading a good book. I

0:18

want to. Take some of

0:20

the great interviews we did on the television show

0:22

that Amanda, Heather and I did on just the news,

0:24

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0:27

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0:29

longer the reason to wait. Let's go to hear from

0:31

our great partner sponsors and advertisers, and we'll

0:33

come right back right after these messages.

0:40

So our first guest today, Guy is senator Ron

0:43

Johnson from the great state of Wisconsin, and he's kind

0:45

enough to join us. Senator, great to have you on

0:47

the show serve. Well,

0:48

guys, I hope you're doing well.

0:50

We are. And we wanna get to your race

0:52

because the polls have you up and a lot of interesting

0:54

dynamics in Wisconsin, but I Wanna

0:57

start with this story we had overnight. The

0:59

outsourced censorship, the

1:01

homeland security department working

1:03

with a private consortium of four groups

1:05

say go out and target in content

1:07

that affects twenty two million tweets,

1:10

five thousand websites, twenty one news

1:12

sites, kind of an enemies list, they're censoring

1:14

things, not always on a truth

1:16

or a velocity basis. And

1:18

then afterward, those same groups

1:20

get well, they get money from the Biden administration for

1:23

the federal government your thoughts, you've been

1:25

worried about this censorship speaking out about it,

1:27

investigating it. What do you think of this new revelation?

1:29

Well,

1:30

first of all, once again, gray reporting

1:33

on your part, your organization's part.

1:36

You know, listen, this is troubling.

1:38

This is trouble every American. It looks

1:40

like what the federal government is trying to do

1:42

is skirt the law, trying to figure

1:45

out some way in some way shape

1:47

or form that it can impact and

1:49

sensor Americans. A

1:52

bridge free speech. I do

1:54

not want the federal government to be the arbiters

1:56

of truth

1:57

that would be a terrible thing, but

1:59

it seems like, you know, these agencies

2:02

within DHS, whether it's

2:04

SIS or the Ministry of Truth,

2:07

That is exactly what the the Biden administration

2:09

is trying to accomplish here. So it should trouble

2:11

everybody. We're continuing to look

2:13

into this. I'm glad that you opened

2:16

up our eyes to this possibility, but

2:18

we're gonna dig into this because this is troubling.

2:21

Yeah. Out

2:21

of this.

2:22

Yes. It is. And senator, I

2:24

think for a lot of Americans, when they when

2:26

they think of the Department of Homeland Security

2:28

and protecting us from terrorist attacks

2:30

and an outside attack when they

2:32

see those sites turning around

2:34

and focusing on American citizens,

2:37

I think we all have to wonder what being

2:39

sacrificed within that department

2:41

to protect us from from outside

2:43

attacks. Is that element of our national

2:45

security suffering? Yes.

2:47

I mean, they they should not be big

2:49

brother. They should be protecting

2:51

our homeland against, you know,

2:54

threats that are coming that are actually

2:56

real. as opposed to these

2:58

political threats that

3:00

the the

3:01

divider in chief is always talking about. You

3:03

know, half Americans are not

3:06

domestic terrorists. Half of America

3:08

is not are not semi fascist.

3:11

But that is exactly what the left is

3:13

pushing on American, unfortunately,

3:15

they have the power within the administration to

3:18

utilize those agencies. Now we see

3:20

the Partnership within Department of Justice.

3:22

We see the politicization of the FBI.

3:24

This is this is

3:27

huge concern. There should be huge concern

3:29

to Americans because the awesome

3:31

power of government is being used against its very

3:33

own citizens. Yeah.

3:34

Such a great point. Sir, you've been

3:37

leading the investigation of these FBI

3:39

whistleblower. One of them, we had his

3:41

story on this Show last week is

3:43

complaint to the whistleblower or to the

3:45

Office of Special Counsel, Stephen Friend,

3:47

you have gone to his defense trying

3:49

to get him protected. Tell us the latest

3:52

about these whistleblower in your efforts to

3:54

keep them protected while they make disclosures

3:56

to you in the in the congress. Well,

3:59

it sounds like

3:59

more and more people of integrity, and I think

4:02

that's the vast majority of people who serve in

4:04

the FBI. apartment justice,

4:06

and quite honestly, the federal agencies in general.

4:09

It's the politicization of the leaders

4:11

at the top. that concerns me.

4:13

So for for anybody who wants

4:15

to restore integrity, their agencies,

4:18

they have to come forward. They

4:20

have complete protection. with

4:23

Congress, we will protect their

4:25

anonymity, but we'll give them the there

4:27

was some lower protection, but we the

4:29

American public deserves the

4:31

truth. And so I'm very grateful

4:34

for those individuals that have had the courage to

4:36

come forward, and more and more are

4:38

coming forward. We're gonna learn a lot more.

4:40

Senator,

4:40

I want to pivot to your

4:42

race. We are just, what, thirty nine

4:44

days out from midterm elections,

4:46

and the poll numbers show that you have a substantial

4:49

lead over your opponent, Mandela

4:51

Barnes, and we're seeing a trend. It

4:53

seems like among Democrats where for the last

4:55

couple years, they have taken pretty

4:57

radical stances on some things. John Federman

4:59

in Pennsylvania with releasing

5:01

second degree felons. Katie Hobbs has her own

5:04

issues. And your opponent

5:06

was a big proponent of defunding

5:08

the police, but now he is having to do

5:10

an about face and walk back on those things. Is that

5:12

from public pressure in Wisconsin people

5:15

opposing that idea? No.

5:17

I think most Americans oppose defining

5:19

the police. The vast majority of Americans

5:21

truly appreciate not a great put

5:23

for the service and sacrifice of law enforcement.

5:25

They realize that as the prime

5:28

directive of the government, the

5:31

primary responsibilities to keep our streets,

5:33

our neighborhoods, our nation safe.

5:35

So, no, it's just I am running

5:37

against the radical leftist. By

5:39

the way, I I think it's a dead even race.

5:41

I would take nothing for granted that this

5:43

is Wisconsin where very divided

5:45

state. What I'm trying to do is I'm

5:47

trying to do what president Biden

5:49

said in his inaugural dress to unify and heal

5:51

this nation. That's what we need to do.

5:53

A divided nation is a weakened nation.

5:55

And unfortunately, these radical leftists

5:58

are exacerbating the

5:59

divide. And

6:00

so, no, this is

6:03

Mandela Barnes is is far too

6:05

radical, far too extreme for Wisconsin.

6:07

I think if there is a shift in the polls,

6:09

that's probably what's happening. Howard

6:12

Bauchner: Yeah, and

6:12

it's interesting senator because you have

6:14

kept things on the issues. And

6:17

A few months ago, the polls had Barnes up, you

6:19

down. Democrats poured millions upon

6:21

millions upon millions of dollars of

6:23

ads and flyers into your state. But

6:25

you've just stayed educating the

6:27

public. This is what Mandela Barnes said. This is what

6:29

he said. This is what he stands for. This is what

6:31

I've done. What I've stand for. The fact that

6:33

the polls almost almost certainly moved. Everyone

6:35

shows the polls moving It kinda

6:37

shows that voters still care about issues

6:39

and facts as opposed to Glitzy

6:42

ads and flyers and attack brochures.

6:44

Is that one lesson we might learn from the the

6:46

early part of this race? Well,

6:48

John must face it. The Democrats can't

6:51

defend their their record. I

6:53

mean, their policies have had just such dis

6:55

disastrous results. The open border, the

6:57

flooded deadly drugs, forty year high inflation,

7:00

record gasoline prices, which they

7:02

purposely drove higher to force us

7:04

all into electric vehicles rising crime.

7:06

We don't have babies for me to feed

7:08

their infant, so they can't defend their

7:10

record. So all we have are

7:12

lies, distortions, character

7:14

assassination, and the politics of

7:16

personal destruction. And it

7:18

looks like the truth

7:20

through prevail. Let's hope the truth through prevail.

7:22

because that's that's what we have. But the problem

7:24

is it's not a level playing field. The

7:26

the the RadiCap has the media the bulk

7:28

of the media on its side. So we

7:31

we need to pay to get our truth

7:33

out. ron johnsonson at

7:35

com We can't let up, but

7:37

we we've gotta continue to convey the truth.

7:39

Yeah. So

7:40

important. Yeah. Senator,

7:41

we've just got a few minutes left. I wanted

7:44

to ask about this recent concerning report

7:45

that

7:46

federal agencies are purchasing data. They

7:49

are tracking Americans through their

7:51

locational data on their phones. And

7:53

I know some people would say, well, I'm not doing anything

7:55

wrong, so it doesn't really matter, but I don't think

7:57

that's the point. Is it? No.

7:59

Again, we

8:02

read novels in high school about the

8:04

nineteen eighty four, you know, the

8:06

brave new world, animal farm.

8:08

you know, these things seem to becoming

8:10

true in America, and it's it's very troubling. I

8:12

I just met with the some immigrants

8:15

from Russia. that came in the in

8:17

the late seventies. You know, they're able to escape the

8:19

Soviet Union. And they they they are

8:21

so frightened about what's happening in America

8:23

because they see kind of a

8:25

parallel system is starting to occur here in this

8:27

country and it frightens them. They they escaped

8:29

that. They they didn't come here to America

8:31

to have the same thing happen to them. So

8:33

what what America represents is

8:35

is freedom. And when you have a

8:37

government continue to increase its power and

8:39

then use that power and turn

8:41

that power against its own citizens,

8:44

that needs to concern every American.

8:47

Yeah.

8:47

It does. Sorry about forty seconds

8:50

left. Real quickly, I spent some time in

8:52

Wisconsin, got my college degree. They're met my wife here. It's one

8:54

of my favorite places. The people of

8:56

Wisconsin have their thumb on the pulse

8:58

of America. What are the two or three issues they tell

9:00

you are most important? We've got about thirty seconds.

9:02

Well, again,

9:03

it's it's what I listed. You know, the

9:05

rising inflation gas prices,

9:08

but literally most they are

9:10

concerned about we're losing this country. This

9:12

is this is really election. This is

9:14

a fight the and soul of America. They recognize that they

9:16

are highly concerned about it.

9:18

Yeah.

9:18

There's no doubt about it. Well, we're we're gonna be

9:21

watching your race and all the work you're doing

9:23

here in wash Did you ever let up one bit

9:25

even as you campaign? Sir, great to have

9:27

you on the the show team. Thanks for an

9:29

update. Take care. Alright. folks.

9:31

We're gonna take a quicker commercial break. We'll be right back

9:33

after these messages.

9:38

Welcome

9:40

back everybody joining us now is one of the

9:42

most important voices in both the

9:44

Court of Law and the Court of Public

9:46

Opinion. A voice of Reason, a voice of

9:48

Principal, and the author of I think my

9:50

favorite book of the year, the price of

9:52

principle, why? Because it

9:54

tells a story of why standing behind your

9:56

principles, you could be canceled on today's

9:58

culture. It's insane he is none other

10:00

than Alan Dershowitz. Professor Dershowitz, good to

10:02

have you on the show. Good to

10:04

be on your show. Thanks. Thanks for joining

10:06

us by phone. I wanna ask you quickly.

10:08

We've had a lot of stories in the last few days

10:10

about this whistleblower. Now it's one

10:13

whistleblower. It's one set of allegations

10:15

we need to check-in to them,

10:17

but he lays out a very

10:19

serious concern that the FBI has

10:21

weaponized the use of

10:23

tactical teams, SWAT teams go arrest

10:25

people on misdemeanors and to do

10:27

other things that he says violate not only the

10:29

FBI manual, but the

10:31

constitutional rights of some of these January

10:33

sixth defendants When you hear that, what

10:35

thoughts run for your mind? That

10:36

we're in a tragic

10:39

situation today where we

10:41

find that it's the Liberals, the

10:43

Civilitarians, former

10:45

ACLU members, who are

10:47

standing behind these incredibly oppressive

10:50

mechanism that the FBI is

10:52

selectively using and

10:54

weaponizing this time against

10:56

Republicans. And the reason I'm so concerned as

10:58

a liberal that somebody used to be on the national

11:00

board of the ACOU is, of

11:02

course, once these tactics

11:04

are accepted and precedents

11:06

are established, They can be

11:08

used against anybody. They can be used

11:10

against you and me. They can be used against the

11:12

left. They can be used against people in

11:14

the Democratic administration when the

11:17

Republicans come power. That's the way

11:19

banana republics begin. You know, when a banana

11:21

republic, if you lose an election, you lose your

11:23

freedom. And that's

11:25

a danger that's going on now

11:27

with efforts to try to criminalize

11:30

everything that Trump did, everything

11:32

is associated I'm now representing

11:34

Michael Mondelli, selling clothes.

11:36

And, yeah, he's making statements which I

11:38

disagree with, but the idea

11:40

of tracking them down at a

11:42

hardy's and taking his phone

11:44

away from him. That's not the way it

11:46

should happen in America. Yeah.

11:48

So

11:48

And that's why why

11:51

everyone should go check out your book, the price of

11:53

principal. But I wanted to ask you about

11:55

something else that I think is observably

11:58

dangerous this was something John and I were

11:59

discussing yesterday. The fact that not

12:02

only the FBI, but also the DOJ

12:04

seems to be infected with

12:06

many more legal, political activists

12:08

than it used to be every once in a while you would have

12:10

one of these folks, but the DOJ, our

12:13

legal system surely seems to have

12:15

a lot of of these young activist

12:17

lawyers. Do you agree? Yes.

12:19

And what's happening is law schools are

12:21

turning them out, colleges are turning them

12:23

out. And when

12:26

I told at law school for fifty years, I

12:28

never expressed my opinions about anything.

12:31

I didn't wanna teach my students what to

12:33

think. I want you to teach them how

12:35

to think. And that's no longer

12:37

happening in law schools. It's no longer

12:39

happening. around the country. And of course,

12:41

we're turning out lawyers who are doctrinaire

12:44

and polemical and ideological. And

12:47

the current view in law school

12:49

is that Trump and his associates are so

12:51

bad and this is so different than anything

12:53

we've ever experienced before that

12:55

the constitution is

12:57

not relevant. that we

12:59

should change the constitution, abandon

13:01

the constitution. People don't know

13:04

history. They don't know that they said that when

13:06

we detained one hundred and ten thousand Japanese

13:08

Americans. They don't know that people said that

13:10

when they passed the alias in this transaction.

13:12

So the Lincoln suspended the rate of paid

13:14

because it's always been different, but we've

13:17

always maintained our constitution. And

13:19

now I worry that civilitarians

13:22

and the guardians, the traditional

13:24

guardians constitution, the ACLU,

13:26

are behind these

13:29

repressive measures, and if not behind

13:31

them, certainly, silent. Yeah.

13:32

It really is remarkable. I wanna talk to

13:35

you about a tactic that we're learning a lot

13:37

more about in the law enforcement community.

13:39

It goes beyond just politicalization

13:41

and weaponization of law enforcement.

13:43

It's a real interesting civil rights

13:46

issue. Police departments

13:48

in the I have been buying the geolocation

13:50

data of Americans without a

13:52

warrant and essentially tracking them to

13:54

South cases, to track people that

13:56

are suspicions Yes, it happened with

13:58

January six, but it's happened with murder defendants.

14:00

It's happened with fraud

14:02

defendants. The idea that the

14:04

government could get your data from a

14:06

data broker and track your entire

14:08

life pattern from your phone without

14:10

a warrant. Do you have any concerns about

14:12

where that's headed in America right

14:15

now? great

14:16

concerns. I mean, the only reason we

14:18

permit private people to

14:21

track you for business purposes

14:23

is because we assume that it won't end up in

14:25

government hands. If the government

14:27

wanted to do the same thing they'd need

14:29

a warrant, I mean, I mentioned they

14:31

tracked Michael Andell, He was

14:33

at hunting with his friends and he was at

14:35

parties. How do they find them? Did they buy

14:37

data? Or did they have

14:39

a GPS on him? Or did they track his

14:41

cell phone? whatever it

14:43

is, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm at the

14:45

opera now. Waiting for you

14:47

to see opening night at the Metropolitan

14:49

opera. don't want the government to know

14:51

that, now they do, because I've disclosed it

14:53

on your wonderful show. But

14:56

I don't want the government knowing

14:58

where I go from my entertainment, who

15:00

I'm with them with my beautiful, fantastic

15:02

wife. But what if I warrant? I

15:04

mean, you know, or what if somebody

15:06

else warrant? it's just too much big

15:08

brother. And the

15:10

connections now between private

15:13

industry and the government is becoming one of

15:15

the great issues 21st

15:17

century, Google and

15:19

Facebook, and whether

15:21

or not Google and Facebook have

15:23

to take instructions from the government

15:26

I'm a big supporter of vaccinations for

15:29

COVID, but I'm not a big supporter of the

15:31

government telling

15:31

howling Facebook

15:33

to have to ban people who have

15:35

different points of view. I mean, the greatness

15:37

of America has always been different

15:39

points of view, nuanced, calibration,

15:43

complexity. That's what

15:45

democracy should be about, not

15:47

single minded solutions. People are

15:49

so sure they know the truth today, that

15:51

they don't think dissent is

15:53

necessary or do processes necessary,

15:56

and that's the death of democracy.

15:58

And, Alan, another arena

15:59

where we are seeing a very uncomfortably

16:02

close tie between

16:04

the DOJ and now

16:06

social media, we we

16:08

had the FBI whistleblower's

16:10

attorney on yesterday, Jason Foster, and

16:12

we were talking to him about the

16:14

Steve Guest's wife whose

16:17

Facebook page was taken down. Now she --

16:19

Right. -- doesn't post anything publicly. It's

16:21

just her messages. So we've

16:23

got this situation I mean, we are

16:25

creeping so close to what you were talking

16:27

about big brother. Does it get worse before

16:29

it gets better, or do you think the pendulum

16:31

is finally gonna swing? I

16:33

hope

16:33

the pendulum will swing. I think this

16:36

supreme court, by the way, both the liberals

16:38

and the conservatives, because this is not a liberal

16:40

conservative issue. This is an issue.

16:42

civil liberties that ought to be equally applicable

16:44

to all. I think this court

16:46

may put an end to it. It's

16:49

putting an end to a

16:51

lot of excesses and extremes

16:53

like ratio affirmative

16:57

action and some other things.

16:59

I think that it certainly has

17:01

to deal with the issue of the relationship

17:03

between government and private social

17:05

media, which is so dominant today in the

17:07

world. Does the first amendment apply to

17:09

Google exactly in the same way it applies to The

17:11

New York Times These

17:14

are hard, hard questions. And I

17:16

think this court is going to have to deal

17:18

with them sooner or later. Howard Bauchner:

17:20

Yeah.

17:20

And, Alan, now we got about a couple minutes left.

17:22

I want to ask this, While the ACLU and some

17:24

of the traditional civil liberties have kind of stepped

17:26

out of the debate, in some cases, they're sanctioning

17:28

the current approach that we're taking, there's a

17:30

whole new generation of

17:33

civil liberties coming up through fire

17:35

and other things. In a funny way, there's a

17:37

rejuvenation of the civil liberties

17:39

movement, but under different banners and under

17:41

different circumstances, Why is that important? And what

17:43

can we do to foster that conversation?

17:46

I completely

17:46

agree. Fire has become a really

17:49

important organization. It's picked

17:51

up from the ACOU. The ACOU

17:53

doesn't dare to

17:55

go on campuses and

17:58

defend conservative students and

18:00

speak out against censorship

18:03

by by the left on college campus and

18:05

fires picked that up and it's been so

18:07

successful on college campuses that

18:09

it's now extended itself and

18:11

it's taken over a lot of what the ACO

18:13

you used to do. The

18:16

irony is that conservatives

18:19

today, genuine conservatives. I'm not talking

18:21

about the crazies on the right, the neo Nazis

18:23

and the Fascist. Real genuine

18:25

conservatives, the Bill Buckley conservatives,

18:28

John Stalin Conservatives. These are people

18:30

who today are taking over

18:32

the responsibility for defending civil

18:34

liberties from what used to be Liberals and

18:38

and democrats and leftist

18:40

and members of the ACOU. It's a

18:42

very important development. And it's pretty remarkable. We

18:44

got about thirty seconds left. You have

18:46

a fifty first book coming out. It's amazing. Tell us what your top is

18:48

gonna be. Well, the

18:51

fifty first book is called

18:53

I will we don't know the title

18:55

yet. who shall live and who shall

18:57

die. Today is Russia, Shonna, and we say

18:59

that prayer every day -- Right. -- on Russia, it's

19:01

not a who shall live and who shall die. But

19:03

the books about how the law deals with death and life

19:06

decisions while ranging from

19:08

abortion to

19:10

wars to gun controlled capital punishment

19:13

to assist with suicide. Anything dealing

19:15

with death and life, I put them all

19:18

together in a in a little Yep. Can't

19:20

wait to read that. Alright, Alan. Thanks so much

19:22

for head on a commercial break. Great to have you

19:24

on folks. We'll be back.

19:29

Welcome back

19:31

America. I'm proud to

19:33

say that my home state, the great Commonwealth

19:35

of Virginia, is ground zero for the

19:37

parents rights movement in America. We saw that

19:39

with governor Glenn Youngkin's extraordinary

19:42

victory last year. And right

19:44

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SUPERTRENDED, GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON. Thanks

19:56

for

19:56

having me on John, Amanda.

19:59

So,

19:59

superintendent, we've seen some protests today in

20:02

Loudoun County just holding away from

20:04

my home. But there's a great

20:06

misnomer about this. A lot of people think that the policies

20:08

that are being protested or have been

20:10

reversed. We're in all the school districts, but my

20:12

understanding is most of the

20:14

school districts never implemented these

20:16

policies in the first place. Am I right about

20:18

that?

20:18

Yeah, as we understand about

20:20

ten percent of the school divisions across the

20:22

Commonwealth implemented the previous guidelines

20:26

that were provided by the previous administration.

20:29

And that leaves about ninety

20:31

percent of the school divisions

20:33

that use their own

20:35

or a varied version of

20:38

another policy. these

20:39

these school transgender policies. I

20:41

mean, this is something that I feel like nobody

20:43

was really having conversations about

20:46

ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.

20:48

For people like you and policymakers, people who

20:51

are intimately involved in education

20:53

and curriculum, how

20:55

difficult is it to navigate that would

20:57

imagine that's probably one of the hardest things

20:59

you've done with your tenure in education.

21:01

Howard Bauchner:

21:01

Yeah, so that's first

21:04

well, a great question. And oftentimes,

21:07

reporters, journalists, parents, lots of

21:09

folks ask, what's the most important

21:11

issue in education? And the answer is

21:13

pretty simple. Every issue is important

21:15

in education. And today,

21:17

this is really important in

21:19

education, and we must address

21:21

it. Almost every issue in in education also

21:23

is does not have a black or

21:25

white yes or no answer.

21:28

It's complicated. It's it's

21:30

grayish most days and this is no

21:33

exception. So we'll continue navigating

21:35

through it together, but really

21:37

the guidelines, the twenty twenty

21:40

two policies really

21:42

boil down to two things. Number

21:44

one, making sure that we protect

21:46

and respect the dignity

21:48

of students, all students. We

21:50

want schools that are free from discrimination,

21:53

from intolerance, from bullying, and from

21:56

harassment. And schools

21:58

have have an obligation,

22:00

a legal obligation to address

22:03

any instances of of

22:05

discrimination or harassment or bullying

22:07

immediately, and that is

22:09

that includes every single student.

22:12

The second part of the policies is

22:14

really centered around parents and

22:16

parents being the primary decision makers

22:19

and the primary

22:22

adults who are involved in students

22:24

lives, not schools, not the state.

22:26

Howard Bauchner:

22:26

Yes, that's an important concept. wanna

22:29

ask a little bit in the last segment we had, the

22:31

great law professor Alan Dershell with soundings. He

22:33

said one of the concerns he has about

22:35

education top to bottom is educators

22:37

have moved from teaching children how

22:39

to think to what to think. And that's been

22:41

the real indoctrination point in education

22:43

What is Virginia doing to make sure those things

22:45

don't happen that kids are learning

22:48

how to how to learn, how to think,

22:50

but not what to think? Well,

22:51

first of all, the mention of Alexander Schwartz just

22:53

has me a little starstruck, and those are

22:55

big shoes to fill. So I'm III

22:58

hope I'm worthy. The second

23:00

thing is we heard governor Youngkin on the

23:03

campaign trail over the course of the

23:05

last year and since he got into

23:07

office in January talk

23:09

about the very same thing. We want

23:11

students to learn the history

23:13

of America. We want them to learn about

23:15

life, the good and the bad.

23:17

but we want to teach them in a way

23:20

that teaches them how to think,

23:22

not what to think. And

23:24

that's vitally important. Now, these

23:27

model policies don't touch on

23:29

classroom instruction or curriculum

23:31

or standards. They're really again

23:33

more about the dignity and protection

23:36

of every student and in school. Howard

23:37

Bauchner:

23:38

Yeah, I mean, we all, I think, grew up in

23:40

a time when when you went to college, you

23:42

were faced with opposing ideas, and that was

23:44

kind of the point of college, but it doesn't seem like that.

23:46

That's what they want to create as far as the

23:48

culture on college campuses these days. I wanted

23:50

to ask you about these twenty me

23:52

to model policies because one of the things that

23:55

you address very directly

23:57

is is privacy. And I

23:59

think for a lot of people when they hear

24:01

student privacy, There are

24:03

concerns because we have been hearing

24:05

so many stories lately about students

24:07

who may or may

24:09

not have ever even expressed any

24:12

curiosity about another gender or

24:14

gender fluidity and then they go

24:16

to a school counselor and then the school

24:18

counselor says, don't say anything to your

24:20

parents. We're gonna address this here at school.

24:22

With respect to privacy within that

24:24

twenty twenty two model policies,

24:27

what do you mean there? What all is entailed there?

24:29

Yeah. So

24:30

a couple of things. And

24:32

number one is that oftentimes

24:34

issues like this and many other issues

24:36

that teenagers go through are

24:38

some of the most difficult decisions and

24:41

times that they go through in their

24:43

entire lives. we want to make sure that

24:45

this is a yes and response. Right?

24:47

We want there to

24:49

be a nice support system that's

24:51

school and in the community with the different resources

24:53

that are available. But those decisions

24:55

and those difficult conversations

24:57

really should happen first and foremost

24:59

in the home. And so as

25:01

soon as the school or the state

25:04

enters the picture and says, don't

25:06

tell your parents, we want

25:08

there to be a really good reason

25:10

for that. such as the student is

25:12

going to be harmed or abused. We've

25:14

had safeguards that are in

25:16

law for years. We've reiterated those

25:18

in this policy if a student is going to be harmed or

25:21

abused as a result of

25:23

informing parents, then there's a different

25:25

protocol to follow. But

25:27

I have yet to meet a parent who doesn't want

25:29

to be part of that major decision

25:31

and other major decisions

25:33

in their child slides.

25:35

and we should give them that option

25:38

and provide support for

25:40

students as they navigate – as students and

25:42

families as they navigate through some of

25:44

these difficult times. The other

25:48

safeguard, I guess, that I don't know if

25:50

it's a safeguard. Well, it is a safeguard, but

25:52

it's also a law. that's been

25:54

on the books for years and that we've

25:56

reiterated in this guidance is

25:58

that if there is

26:01

cause a legitimate cause for

26:03

concern or excuse me, that

26:05

a school, an educator, is a

26:07

mandatory reporter. If they expect abuse

26:09

or neglect is taking place at

26:12

home. So that means that

26:14

if there is an inherent risk

26:17

to the student and and that's being

26:19

acted out at home that we

26:21

wanna make sure that that that that that that

26:23

that that's addressed and that that's

26:25

reported. That's been on the books for

26:27

years and schools are mandatory

26:29

reporters for that. The third

26:31

thing is, and I believe

26:33

that thirty six times in the model

26:35

policy, the word bullying

26:37

appears. We want every single

26:39

student protected from harassment,

26:41

discrimination, bullying, intolerance.

26:44

We expect every single

26:46

educator and every single school to

26:48

immediately and swiftly deal

26:50

with instances of harassment,

26:53

discrimination, bullying, or

26:55

intolerance. And so that

26:57

is, you know, that is inherent in

26:59

the policies and that

27:01

protects the privacy and safety of all students. Alright.

27:03

Folks, we're gonna

27:03

take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back

27:05

after these messages.

27:10

He is

27:12

a great

27:13

congressman from the state

27:15

of Arizona, Andy Biggs' congressman. Great to

27:17

have you back on the

27:19

show. Thanks, John. Good to see

27:21

you and Amanda. Great to have you

27:23

answer. I wanna start with

27:25

the latest revelations about

27:27

this agent, Steven Friend, he

27:29

says that they were weaponizing the use of

27:31

SWAT teams to

27:34

go after January sixth defendants for shock

27:36

and all. even they were charged with

27:38

this mister Manners, very concerned

27:40

he says about the

27:42

security implications of hauling out that hardware,

27:45

creating a hard entry into a home

27:47

for a misdemeanor offense. When you

27:49

hear that after all the other things you've

27:51

now have ascertained about the FBI, when first

27:53

comes to mind? Well, just

27:55

a a recurring theme

27:57

of abusive power

27:59

for political purposes I mean, to

28:01

go take a SWAT team to a

28:04

misdemeanor is is absolutely ridiculous.

28:07

misdemeanor is just so people understand what a

28:09

misdemeanor is. a misdemeanor would be, like,

28:11

someone with a simple stress pass.

28:13

Even some DUIs are

28:16

are are misdemeanors or a shoplifting

28:18

or something like that. and

28:20

that's what you have here and you're going

28:22

out with these massive SWAT

28:25

teams to intimidate not

28:27

not just the specific, but the

28:29

general. So you're intimidating the specific

28:32

individual who who you want

28:34

to bring under arrest for a misdemeanor

28:36

for Pete's sake. But you also

28:38

want to cap cower cause

28:41

everybody else that's looking to

28:43

generally BE AFRAID TO

28:45

SPEAK OUT, TO PARTICIPATE

28:47

AND ACROSS THE LINE.

28:50

THAT IS NOT the way you use a SWAT

28:52

team. A SWAT team has meant for a very

28:54

tactical situation that you don't

28:56

have in these misdemeanors. So I John,

28:58

Amanda, this is just a

29:00

recurring theme of abusive power of

29:02

by the FBI, DOJ, and the federal

29:04

police apparatus. It's amazing.

29:06

Yeah. It's It's

29:07

a scary message that I feel like

29:10

they are trying to send. I wanna

29:12

shift over to border tip

29:14

topics breaking news. You are one

29:16

of those folks in Arizona,

29:18

but especially representing your state on Capitol

29:20

Hill who is a boy order Hark Hark,

29:22

and I know that the people of your state

29:24

appreciate that. Talk to us about this

29:26

new documentary alien

29:29

invasion and how it highlights what's happening at the

29:31

border and also renews

29:33

calls to impeach DHS Secretary

29:35

Mayankis. Yeah. I

29:35

appreciate you bringing that up. So been

29:38

down to the border so many times. I've taken

29:40

so many members of Congress. And when they

29:42

get down to the border, it changes

29:44

their very attitude about what

29:46

they think they knew about the

29:48

border and they become very intent.

29:50

They're converts. And that's what we're trying to

29:52

do. So people can really see the truth.

29:54

The upstream media doesn't show it.

29:56

you guys show it, the others on

29:59

the right show it, but

30:01

we decided to take and and

30:03

and put this documentary together of what

30:05

we saw happening and what we continue to

30:07

see happening so that

30:10

anybody would have the opportunity to

30:12

see it. So we're gonna premier that

30:14

this Thursday in Washington,

30:16

DC. And then after that, it

30:18

will be available for free

30:20

on on my my

30:22

congressional website because we want the world to see

30:24

what's happening. Because it's a

30:26

danger to you and, amenity. In

30:28

LA, you you know this as

30:30

well. And now even in Washington, D. C. you're seeing

30:32

the impacts of this, a million

30:35

fentanyl pill seized just the other day in

30:37

in Phoenix. a

30:39

million fentanyl pills, forty

30:41

percent according to DEA going to

30:43

have basically a fatal

30:45

dose of fentanyl in it. and that's

30:47

just the beginning of of the disaster

30:49

that we see because of Joe Biden. But

30:51

particularly secretary Alejandro Mayer,

30:53

who's supposed to be in charge of the

30:55

Yeah.

30:55

And do you think a I mean, obviously, people in the

30:57

border states want my orcas out. Do you

30:59

think now as the crisis from the

31:01

border has spread to every state, in

31:03

the form of fentanyl sex trafficking, child trafficking, that

31:06

there are enough Republicans

31:08

and perhaps even some Democrats willing

31:10

to vote for impeachment of the homeland security secretary?

31:13

Well, I think I think

31:14

you'd get a unanimous verdict out

31:16

of the Republicans I can only think

31:18

of a couple of Democrats that might be inclined

31:21

to vote for an impeachment, and

31:23

there they would be received

31:25

so much pressure from speaker Pelosi.

31:28

That's why this place in

31:30

January when we have a new

31:32

speaker. Yeah. So

31:33

important. Yep. Yeah.

31:35

congressmen, I wanted to ask you specifically about the

31:37

fentanyl issue because I think for

31:39

a lot of us, we witnessed during the opioid

31:42

crisis, a lot of callousness from

31:44

a certain of American society

31:46

because they would look at the opioid crisis and

31:48

say, oh, well, you know, these people are drug

31:50

addicts. They, you know, they shouldn't have been

31:52

taking those pills to begin with. And

31:54

and I I see that pervasive

31:56

attitude a little bit coming

31:58

forth with fentanyl, but a story John

32:00

and I were talking about two or three weeks ago,

32:02

a school supervisor in California

32:04

who caught a student with a bottle of it,

32:07

just opened the jar and smelled it and ended up

32:09

in the hospital. How do we

32:11

get more people to not

32:13

be cow cost against this and to look at look at it with

32:15

broad eyes and a broad perspective

32:17

and realize that this affects everybody.

32:19

It's not just OGATICS

32:21

AND PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO IT

32:23

OR PEOPLE WHO WERE AT THE BORDER?

32:25

WELL,

32:25

WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS

32:28

discussion going because what's happening, you're exactly right,

32:30

Amanda. And John, what happens here

32:32

is you might think that you're taking

32:34

AAA percocet or

32:36

something like and and

32:39

it's it's not. It's gonna be a

32:41

counterfeit pill that has

32:43

lethal dose of fentanyl. We've

32:45

had we've seen people that have actually tried to help

32:48

individuals who were having an

32:50

overdose and they wanted to get up there and

32:52

they have died just by ingesting

32:55

the fentanyl dust on that

32:57

individual. So you you really

32:59

have to understand how deadly fentanyl

33:01

is. It just takes just a few grains

33:03

actually to kill somebody. and

33:05

you don't have to be a drug addict. You

33:07

don't have to be some,

33:10

you know, near do well.

33:12

You can be a good Samaritan.

33:15

You can be, as we in this

33:17

case, a school administrator. You can be

33:19

somebody just comes in contact with

33:21

with a fentanyl pill or a fentanyl powder, and it

33:23

it can be very deadly to you. Yes.

33:26

That's

33:26

an amazing tragedy.

33:29

heard from an officer a day, there was a woman that went to a

33:31

hotel room. Apparently, a pill was left

33:33

on the ground. She picked it up just to clean up the

33:35

hotel room and was instantly

33:37

poisoned and and sick and had to

33:39

be get an emergency injection in the hotel room.

33:41

It's just insane. One of the things

33:43

congressman that I know you

33:45

work you not only highlight the problem of the border, you're trying to

33:47

create constructive solutions. You've got new

33:49

introduce you've introduced new legislation to

33:51

end catch and release. Tell us why that's

33:54

so important. Well,

33:56

the catch and release program

33:58

is really an incentive for people to

34:00

come into the country. So what

34:02

it happens is you come into the

34:05

country, you surrender, and that's what most

34:07

people do today. we

34:09

we take them into custody. And what

34:11

happens is they then go ahead and

34:13

say, look, you know, I want

34:16

asylum. And so we will then

34:18

release them into the country. We've caught them. Now we're

34:20

releasing them. And and the

34:22

current date for a court

34:24

case on an

34:26

asylum claim is eighty six months. That's seven

34:28

years. That means that you're gonna release

34:30

somebody in for seven years. You will never see

34:32

them again. and those who do

34:34

encounter that do come back

34:36

or that we find

34:39

ninety percent plus have bogus asylum

34:41

claims. And so we we've gotta stop

34:44

that incentive to come. So that's that's

34:46

what that's what's

34:48

happening now. to people all

34:50

over the world that wanna come into the country. They

34:52

know that if they they can come over,

34:54

they could just say, hey, I wanna

34:56

asylum, and you're gonna be released into the interior of the

34:58

United States AND PROBABLY NEVER BE HEARD FROM, NEVER HEAR FROM AUTHORITIES

35:00

AGAIN. THE RULE OF LAW IS NOT

35:02

EXUSENT IN THE

35:02

BORDER RIGHT NOW UNFORTUNATELY. I WANT

35:06

to close off with something very quickly. We've got about a minute left. Wanted

35:08

to ask you about this abortion law, and Arizona

35:10

judge lifted that injunction.

35:12

Basically, lifting the abortion

35:15

or excuse me, the the abortion law. I wanted to

35:17

get your thoughts on that. Does it reflect

35:20

the sentiment of voters

35:22

of Arizona? Well,

35:23

it's an old law. I mean, for sure, because

35:25

I mean, even the injunction was issued

35:27

in the early seventies due to Roe v Wade. So

35:29

that got lifted. And the previous

35:31

law goes back in place. That law's an old law, and it

35:34

provides only an exception for the life of the

35:36

mother. So

35:38

Whether that is reflective of Arizona or not, we'll

35:40

find out because in the next

35:42

legislative session, the state legislature is gonna take

35:45

that up, and they'll have to

35:47

take that up. Alright,

35:48

folks. We're gonna take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back after these messages.

35:55

Welcome back.

35:58

We very briefly put

35:59

Biden and Harris' mental fitness

36:02

on notice joining us

36:04

now is Amber Athey, the editor of the

36:06

spectator who will help us break down all of

36:08

these questionable behaviors.

36:10

Amber, great to see you tonight. Thanks for coming back

36:12

on the show. Thank you both for

36:14

having me. Amber, maybe we're

36:16

not giving him enough credit. Maybe he has the

36:18

sixth sense and he can talk to the

36:20

dead. Maybe her spirit was in there with

36:23

them. She showed me as

36:25

big as hell. Right. Joe Biden is

36:27

the new Bruce Willis apparently.

36:30

Obviously, the simpler explanation is

36:32

that this is the latest in

36:35

a long pattern of president Joe

36:37

Biden becoming very confused. I mean, just

36:39

today, when he was at, I

36:41

believe it was

36:44

the either the FEMA headquarters or the NEA headquarters.

36:46

After he gave his remarks, he

36:48

started oddly wandering around the room his

36:52

aids were sort of following along, trying to figure out

36:54

exactly where he was going, and

36:56

no one really seemed to know what

36:59

was going on. then a couple of

37:01

weeks ago, he shook senator

37:04

Chuck Schumer's hand, and then promptly

37:06

forgot he had shaken his hand and

37:08

had to go and try to

37:10

do it again. So unfortunately, these

37:12

are the types of things that happen all the time.

37:14

If it were a one off gap, I think

37:16

it would be easier the

37:18

media, for the American people

37:20

to let this go and

37:22

ignore. But because it happens over

37:24

and over and over again, it's

37:27

obvious that there's a problem. Howard Bauchner:

37:29

Yeah, it

37:29

is. And listen, the media spent most

37:31

of twenty twenty allowing Joe Biden campaign

37:34

from his basement most days we didn't get that

37:36

sort of interaction, that vetting that we would

37:38

normally get of a fully campaigning

37:40

president. Now we're

37:42

beginning to see these sort of know it

37:44

but there's definitely something wrong. But

37:46

the much younger vice president, Kamala

37:48

Harris, well,

37:50

She finally went to a board. It wasn't our boarders. She went to the DMZ

37:52

in South Korea, but she

37:54

had a pretty tough moment too, and

37:56

this wasn't even a teleprompter problem. check

37:59

out this

37:59

clip. So the

38:01

United States shares

38:04

a very

38:06

important relationship

38:06

which is an with Korea. And

38:10

it is an alliance that is strong

38:14

enduring? Well, I know the Democrats,

38:15

you still like to say Donald Trump was a little

38:17

too close to North Korea, but now that Biden

38:20

administration's embracing them for a long

38:22

term alliance, what is up

38:24

with us? Man, the

38:26

entire Biden administration, including

38:28

the press secretary, Karine, Jean Pierre,

38:31

are just communication

38:34

bozos. They can't string a sentence together.

38:36

They're constantly throwing out the

38:38

wrong words. Biden is just constantly

38:40

confused. Kamala Harris is sort

38:42

of infamous at this point

38:44

for defining

38:46

words with there,

38:48

like, a self definition. The

38:50

banks community banks are banks that are

38:52

in the community and things of that

38:54

nature. And I wanna go back to a second for your

38:56

point about slide and being stuck in the

38:58

basement for most of his

39:00

campaign. I did some

39:02

accounting of the hours that he actually spent on the

39:04

campaign trail back when he was

39:06

calling Lids at twelve, one

39:08

o'clock in the afternoon and

39:10

discovered for an entire month he

39:12

basically worked less than forty hours

39:14

a week while campaigning and

39:16

that is not only

39:18

unacceptable for someone who's in a normal working

39:20

job, but for someone who is preparing to be

39:22

president where you're expected to

39:24

work basically all day long and

39:26

maybe get four hours of sleep. It was

39:29

just unbelievable. Yeah. That's a

39:30

great fact. I heard that before. That's amazing.

39:32

Me

39:32

neither. I know of another president who if he could have crammed forty

39:35

hours of work into twenty four hours, he

39:37

would have done that for sure. I

39:39

wanted to ask you about, you know, I remember

39:41

during the campaign, and even now as

39:44

president, members

39:46

of president will

39:48

explain things away. You see Corinne Jean

39:50

Pierre from the press podium trying to make

39:52

excuses, and they say, oh, that's just

39:56

old That's just crazy uncle Joe. Does the rest of the

39:58

world take it that lightly when they

39:59

see it? No, I don't think

40:01

so. And

40:04

I think you know, that's the reason why the media has

40:06

seen their trust plummet

40:08

completely. I mean, frankly, the

40:10

media is about as

40:12

trusted as Congress at this point by the American people. me.

40:15

And it's it's

40:17

very clear. I think

40:20

that their narratives are being busted on a

40:22

constant basis and not even just by

40:24

independent media or conservative media

40:27

but by reality. Right? Anybody with two eyes in

40:29

two years. And actually, probably one

40:32

or the other can see exactly what's

40:34

going on in the Biden

40:36

administration. When Korean Jean Pierre was asked

40:38

today about the

40:40

president forgetting that congress

40:42

and Mueller's scheme had passed away

40:45

She kept saying saying,

40:47

Congresswoman Volarsky was on the top of

40:49

his mind. Excuse

40:50

me. And

40:52

it was pretty clear that she didn't have a real explanation, so that

40:54

was the best that she could come up with.

40:57

Howard Bauchner: Yeah, listen, I think you're right.

40:58

There is a factor in America

41:02

politics If you can see it with to think

41:04

this story can be swept under. And

41:06

yesterday, I saw for the first time

41:10

some disengagement with disbelief

41:12

of what the what White House

41:14

press secretary was saying, do you think

41:17

Reporter IS REALIZED NOW THE GAME IS OVER. THEY GOT

41:19

TO STOPPET AND MAYBE THEY START COVERING THIS A LITTLE

41:21

M MORE SERIACY. I THINK SOME OF

41:23

THEM DO. I MEAN THAT WAS

41:25

REALLY THE EMPHIDUS FOR CNN switching out its

41:27

leadership. But the question is, even if

41:29

they do take it seriously, do they get

41:31

it? And I don't think that they get it.

41:33

I mean CNN should

41:36

have fired Don Lemmon instead they moved him into a morning show where

41:38

he's continuing his woke nonsense. So

41:42

they under stand that they're

41:44

not trusted. They understand that something

41:46

needs to change, but they're

41:48

still too wrapped up in their own bubble to

41:50

know exactly what kind of

41:52

change has to happen and what it is the

41:54

American people are hungry for, which is

41:56

objectivity. Amber, I wanted

41:57

to shift to the vice

41:59

press president Kamala

41:59

Harris. She has had gaffes of

42:02

her own, and we've all seen the

42:04

polling as far as her

42:06

as the preference for the DNC ticket in twenty twenty four.

42:08

What what's your take on her and her her

42:10

mental acumen and aptitude

42:12

and fitness? I

42:14

don't know that she's, you know, mentally

42:16

struggling the way that Biden

42:18

is. I think she's just not very

42:20

bright. Right? There's a difference.

42:23

between someone's mental health

42:26

degrading and someone who clearly

42:28

is just unprepared

42:30

and unqualified FOR THE JOB WHEN THERE WAS SOME A

42:32

COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT

42:34

STAFFERS LEAVING

42:36

THE VICE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE and

42:40

why they were fleeing in droves. A lot

42:42

of them said that they were basically

42:45

covering for someone who refused to

42:48

do the work. They would give her brief briefing

42:50

materials, and she wouldn't read them. And

42:52

then what's her random labor staff? So

42:54

she's completely just unqualified for the office.

42:56

Yeah. And with respect to

42:57

president Biden, the press secretary

43:00

saying that the calling

43:02

out of

43:04

a past congresswoman, it wasn't an

43:06

unusual scenario. I don't think that came across the

43:08

way that she expected it to or wanted it to. But,

43:10

Anne Marie, the editor of the spectator

43:13

and host of the podcast unfittered print. Thank you so much for being with

43:15

us, and we will be

43:18

right back.

43:21

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