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special last week about the pain

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at the pumps about the future

1:23

of american electricity is

1:26

the president biden is is

1:28

his policies on track on target

1:30

or is taking as into an abyss

1:32

a lot of song comments about are

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we ready for all electric vehicle fleet

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the former alaska governor on combat she'll

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1:45

congress and great state alaska see

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1:50

on energy and

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why we have gone from being energy

1:54

independent to energy dependent in eighteen

1:56

months it's just the transition from donald

1:58

trump to joe biden cause that mobile we're

2:00

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2:02

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enjoy i'll be back when they with regular brother

2:30

good

2:30

good evening american welcome to this the

2:32

the newsreel america's voiced special how

2:34

the war on gas and and oil made america

2:37

energy-dependent again i'm your host john solomon

2:39

tonight in partnership with our our sponsor

2:41

penicillin and gas we're going to explore

2:43

and discuss how how the by the administration's domestic

2:46

an international policy shift, are

2:48

emboldening l beck and

2:50

other foreign adversaries around world while

2:53

supply demand to increase are

2:55

here in in the united states continue to suffer

2:57

greatly at at the the gas pump and grocery stores

3:00

and even in the real estate market the obama

3:02

biden wideouts to the trump administration's

3:04

policies and now president biden first

3:06

two years in office strain relationships

3:09

liberal political strategy eastern european

3:11

war and further turmoil have

3:13

impacted our nation's into becoming

3:15

energy dependence again the from is hard

3:17

to believe over the course of the next

3:19

hour we're going to be joined by a former secretary

3:21

of interior under president trump us

3:24

an oil gas association president and

3:26

others to learn just how the oil and gas

3:28

marketplace has been decimated rebuilt

3:31

and relied upon over the other than decimated

3:33

again wasn't here sicily from

3:35

panic as executive leadership later in

3:37

the our up or how

3:39

they are probably trying to salvage ongoing

3:41

energy prices happening under president

3:44

biden our very lucky start show up

3:46

with president trump's former secretary of the

3:48

and series david bernhardt in here join us

3:50

today mister secretary an honor to have

3:52

you are

3:54

thrive in me i really appreciated look for

3:56

the conversation it's such an

3:58

important conversation is almost hard

4:00

the remember two years ago when you turn

4:02

the keys over to the biden administration we

4:04

were energy independent gases around two

4:06

dollars gallon how did we get

4:08

to this point five dollars as

4:10

and and collapsing market

4:13

well it all started on day one when

4:16

this president they came and office

4:18

made a decision

4:19

the made a decision to put climate activism

4:22

over energy independence

4:25

is for one of his first actions

4:27

on day one was to

4:29

lay out of energy or

4:31

agenda which included as

4:33

stopping the keystone pipeline pausing

4:36

oil and gas activities on federal land

4:38

which make up about thirty percent of energy

4:40

production and arm and

4:42

since seen you in a little need of

4:45

activities and then he staff the

4:47

agencies with climate activists who

4:50

are hostile to arm

4:52

traditional forms of energy and

4:54

so it's no surprise that as a result

4:57

of that concerted effort we

4:59

seen a dramatic impact

5:01

who are energy security we

5:04

seen as slowdown in the development

5:06

of energy ,

5:08

we seen a hostilities to

5:10

the energy industry that says

5:13

hey we want you out of the business

5:15

in few years and all of that it's had

5:17

a tremendous effect in

5:19

an impact a negative way

5:21

new investment new investment that we

5:23

need for drive additional

5:26

supply of energy and

5:28

because there's not new investment

5:30

are driving ah supply

5:33

ah what you have is tremendous

5:36

impact on the demand side that is simply

5:38

not been met and

5:40

we have prices

5:42

that we've never ever seen

5:44

before it's absolutely stunning

5:47

it's a demonstration of hostility

5:49

and the amazing thing is that this president

5:51

could stop it issuing

5:54

a a new

5:56

policy that says hey are fossil

5:58

fuels have important future in

6:01

this country we need to make energy investments

6:03

and we need to proceed quickly

6:06

forward with leasing and pipeline

6:08

permitting it today

6:10

he has not been willing to issue a

6:13

, our policy direction

6:16

and as result the american people would continue

6:18

to shove suffer not only in the short

6:20

term but the mid term and potentially

6:22

the long term and less things turn around

6:25

yeah because he markets or long term market

6:27

they they take time to make adjustments the what

6:29

he's already done is really remarkable i

6:32

want to fill out your act because we're when president

6:34

obama was in office we

6:37

were energy dependence then the trump administration

6:39

with you and others made us energy

6:41

independent and we've gone backwards again what

6:43

did the trump administration duty get together

6:46

so quickly the energy indifferent

6:49

we had a couple things that were really

6:51

important in and the first

6:53

is the american entrepreneurship

6:56

an american our technology

6:59

lead to where we know is this

7:01

the fracking or shale revolution

7:04

which unleashed on oil

7:07

reserves that we're not besides

7:10

would be available in future and they started that

7:12

really in the obama administration

7:15

on private lands what president

7:17

trump did that was exceptional is

7:19

we took that great energy resonant

7:22

resonance that that technical

7:24

innovation and that opportunity and

7:27

we moved it forward arm

7:29

on to our public lands

7:31

and so those two things together

7:34

drove on dramatic reduction

7:36

and and this this president

7:38

has said those properties

7:41

you , the goal is that those properties are

7:43

off limits and arm indeed

7:45

future of for this entire

7:47

industry is bleak and as

7:49

just simply not consistent

7:52

with arm where are

7:54

the demand for future will be and

7:57

on where demand is today demand as today result

7:59

that there tremendous price pressure

8:01

and tremendous harm or to

8:03

the american public into the american consumer

8:06

and to american jobs and so now we have

8:08

situation where a shutdown

8:10

the american side of the equation and

8:12

he's literally the administration is literally

8:15

going to other countries and same

8:17

please of up your production

8:19

and on do that in way that's actually

8:22

less environmentally benign arm

8:25

then in america it's america it's

8:27

incredible

8:29

nowadays and you mention the security factor

8:31

when we have rely on a russia

8:33

on a saudi arabia venezuela

8:35

all other countries that part of the opec

8:37

cartel are we are not as

8:40

safe as we used to be this is actually a geopolitical

8:43

reduction in our security what has happened under

8:45

president by night

8:46

that's absolutely true and the great thing

8:49

that i was able to witness serving witness

8:51

serving trump administration was

8:54

the foreign policy decisions

8:56

that president trump it make because

8:58

of our strength and energy freed

9:01

up the ability to make

9:03

our decisions are that

9:05

involved no not

9:07

necessarily putting troops in

9:10

places in the middle east it east it

9:12

fried and enhanced america's

9:14

interest while at the same time

9:17

enhancing american economic

9:19

opportunity and to simply

9:21

arm ah shut that

9:23

process down create friction and

9:25

that makes no sense or

9:28

or the environment no sense for american

9:30

security and certainly no

9:32

sense or the american

9:34

consumer

9:35

now a dozen and they know every time you a gas

9:37

father does have a sense anymore i say that

9:40

i'm out there is this extraordinary

9:43

the answer the the biden administration give which

9:45

is don't worry about i gas prices

9:47

you're going to be able to buy an electric car sunday

9:49

we are a long ways away

9:51

from having an infrastructure that could support

9:54

any large mass deployment of

9:56

electric cars how many years or we

9:58

apart from that him alive

10:00

there's such miscalculation the on by the

10:02

mistress not realizing the infrastructures

10:04

not there well

10:06

first off we are a long long ways

10:08

from a position where everyone

10:11

could have an electric vehicle we

10:13

have system in place to provide

10:16

for those vehicles and that are that

10:18

are pretty even handle that

10:20

magnitude of delivery

10:22

is just simply not realistic and

10:25

on the simple answer

10:27

to that is the energy

10:30

and electricity systems

10:32

we have incredibly complex

10:34

they were built over literally

10:37

the last cluttered and twelve years

10:39

and you can't drop a

10:42

arm and grenade into that system

10:44

and think there won't be massive

10:47

or and parks and that's exactly

10:49

what this administration's wrote chose

10:52

to do they are dropped hand grenade

10:54

hand they didn't have didn't have they didn't have a

10:56

solution for the american workers for

10:58

actual jobs they didn't have a solution

11:00

for the american consumers who

11:02

are now paying more

11:05

, at the gas pump more in

11:07

every product we buy driven

11:10

by by energy

11:12

costs and it's simply a

11:15

dogma of climate activism

11:18

without activism well thought out plan

11:20

of what the consequences to

11:22

the american people would be and then once

11:25

they have seen is consequences they

11:27

haven't submitted that to me

11:29

as the absolute incredible thing

11:32

that we'd have basically an

11:34

executive branch this decided they've

11:36

dug themselves in a whole and they're just

11:39

gonna keep digging even

11:41

even the clinton administration and

11:44

the obama administration have

11:46

found ways to modulate or

11:48

their policies and what we're seeing here

11:50

is there's just no interest modulation

11:53

and i fear that the american

11:55

people are in for a long long

11:58

expensive next three years and

12:00

this is what we get when we

12:02

allow extremists and activists

12:05

to arms control these

12:08

agencies there's a tremendous consequence

12:11

that there is really got about thirty seconds left

12:13

want to have as a we keep hearing big oil's

12:15

to blame but most of the people that jail for

12:18

other mid size or smaller companies and

12:20

will employ a lot of people why is there the

12:22

myth of big oil

12:24

well work on everybody likes to

12:26

have furniture right but here's here's

12:28

the thing the oil companies

12:30

going to do very well right now honestly

12:33

but they've also had a decade

12:35

where they did very very poorly and

12:37

so you know what we have

12:39

is his situation right now where

12:41

people believe i'm

12:44

a hostility over the american government

12:46

is such that they're not gonna want to invest

12:49

in oil and gas and what we need right

12:51

now although companies are stepping

12:53

forward we need more production

12:55

or we need a crash and demand

12:58

and arm and that is not good

13:01

for the american economy when you look at most

13:03

the last several big recessions

13:06

what you see is that they were driven

13:08

by extremely high

13:10

energy costs and we're on that

13:12

pathway right now and without

13:14

increasing supply we

13:16

are going to have a bigger problem

13:19

later this year i , even

13:21

imagine being bigger than it is but you're right

13:23

everybody i'm talking to was saying the same thing mr

13:25

secretary first thanks for getting our country

13:28

to energy independence lot people forget

13:30

what you did for this country and are perfect

13:32

for helping explain if i we got into this mess

13:34

so much a really really i enjoyed conversation

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of alaska the two thousand eight

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vice presidential nominee for the republican party

16:49

and now widely assumed to become

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the next congresswoman for the great

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16:55

sarah palin governor gray to have you ever so john

17:00

i appreciate the invitation well you

17:02

know energy you have been talking about

17:04

going all the way back to the side you are running

17:06

for vice president we have this moment

17:09

where joe biden has shut off the spigot in

17:11

america gas prices are off the off

17:13

the charts and the solution seems

17:16

to be sitting right in front of us what's

17:18

going on here

17:20

well biden is so clueless

17:23

about into the simple solutions

17:25

and it's common sense illusions we just

17:27

need to be applied i never

17:29

been one when he directed

17:31

his administration they

17:34

, regret things differently

17:37

doing here

17:39

to hide him coming from i'm

17:42

in argue that shut

17:44

up the supply of domestic

17:46

energy h allowing the federal

17:48

lands to beach and

17:51

i'm allowing you're

17:54

lot of a better relationship

17:56

with your oil companies and what we're seeing

17:59

and in dimitri you

18:02

know how good stuff and

18:04

as it is a predictable what

18:07

yeah benefit of course now where

18:09

any energy cry that but

18:11

there are hundreds of solutions to get back

18:13

on track i do not seek

18:15

out the biden is will the even

18:17

less sense to what does solutions

18:20

are

18:20

it is remarkable in fact they keep

18:22

talking about transition but it's a transition

18:25

that america is nowhere near ready make we

18:27

don't have the electricity grid that can support

18:29

all the electric cars we don't have the batteries

18:31

i could do it out the best

18:33

opportunity i think the start the correction process

18:36

will be this election in november republicans

18:38

have a very different plan you have articulated

18:41

you run for the congressional he there are

18:43

very specific plan ah to get americans

18:46

are energy unleashed again health

18:48

of bit about way republicans will take this country next

18:50

year

18:52

republicans and have really got

18:54

to put pressure on the administration

18:56

even until our that read

18:58

way that ushered in in mid

19:00

terms as ,

19:03

of biden as expected

19:05

he'll he'll be over in your ideas

19:08

ideas the he meant he

19:11

their reserves in the weekend and

19:13

gym for fear energy sources when of

19:15

course we we have this applies here of

19:17

applies so our

19:20

our our nation with them be

19:22

energy resources that we could we possibly

19:24

develop more responsible

19:26

each than any other nation and

19:29

dumb and we can't wait until

19:31

that read way even though the soon there

19:35

is no huge when when comes to

19:37

an arena look and

19:39

exerting their power right

19:46

the federal man to

19:48

fight against biden thirty for

19:51

thirty by thirty plan which course the on

19:53

is that his commitment to our

19:55

locking up thirty percent of federal lands

19:57

by twenty three all the

19:59

area item of

20:01

them were the math and the numbers

20:03

we are federal lancers lawsuit

20:06

by braden i'm an die it

20:09

tragic and it's it's an effect

20:12

every single aspect of airline people

20:14

don't understand preserve switch i

20:16

had the price of gas of the pumpkin at

20:18

noon and forty two few lot my tracks

20:21

and in you don't we all we all feel

20:23

that in our own a book with

20:26

the tree pretty ah

20:28

lubber consumer goods are just

20:30

in the course with his increase in

20:32

energy prices and you

20:35

, petroleum product which are all around

20:37

us he retired he made out oil

20:39

practically plastic pot

20:41

metics metics you either

20:44

just given everything be made out of the joints

20:46

and at so of course the price

20:48

of everything it's just that because supply

20:50

of low domestically and there's no excuse

20:52

for we have to determine

20:56

yeah there's no doubt about it in i

20:58

think we see when we look what a vladimir

21:00

putin has done to eastern europe in recent

21:02

months shutting off the using oil

21:04

and energy as a geopolitical

21:06

weapon america was far

21:08

less dependent just two years ago on foreign oil

21:10

now we're so much more dependent there

21:12

is a national security threat year that know

21:14

you're deeply concerned about

21:18

there's been an era link between energy

21:20

and security and energy and prosperity

21:24

let me give you another example of what we could be

21:26

doing you tap into our domestic

21:28

supplies for the or much reliance

21:30

on the a dirty and dangerous

21:32

sources of energy that point at

21:34

evidently to be plenty of a

21:37

, and i didn't want to travel out of

21:39

high point system edge i

21:42

met with the athletes two million

21:44

barrels two million was flowing through

21:47

nectar create any down the

21:50

pipeline and allow

21:52

the was the pie about eighty

21:54

percent of us domestic supply of energy

21:56

well today with will come from two million

21:58

barrels a day to four

22:00

hundred thousand barrels day each my

22:03

cellular engineer the big mouth

22:05

that nut the small about adam

22:08

of course that says the pointer their underfoot

22:10

what's going on today though is oil

22:12

companies l b vitamins

22:15

that these people aged between after

22:17

my questions they didn't i'm sure they

22:19

don't understand why with

22:22

, today and get me going to

22:24

meet with oil executive no

22:27

get worse shape detail

22:32

he to be

22:35

an oil company shut down ready

22:37

and they do that because just doesn't

22:39

can pull out his for economic reasons

22:42

for such a be shut down or

22:45

evidently things that you can just flip switch

22:47

and get that right back up and running and

22:49

all guy or girl more more

22:52

progress it doesn't work that way yeah

22:55

nine years to ran

22:57

back up production that has been

22:59

shut down by the government

23:01

so they're not even up

23:03

in whitehall students and republicans

23:06

, today that you're in dc

23:09

they do with the solutions are i

23:11

do not know why they are not more adamant

23:14

inch and bad you don't just more

23:16

passionate about allowing

23:18

this is hop flows domestically

23:20

because deal just a good back

23:22

to your suggestion their this

23:24

our country is less safe

23:27

because that inherently tweet energy supplies

23:30

and national security or less safe

23:32

the way things are going yeah i am i

23:34

thinking what you just like i so import most

23:36

americans don't realize is there is a long

23:38

tail to at a hour energy in oil

23:40

exploration and it starts with investors

23:43

our money have conferencing i think

23:45

it's a good idea go into it seems like

23:47

the by them efficient has tried to dry

23:49

up confidence among investors with things like

23:51

these new ios g rules and will oppose

23:53

all these environmental costs as before you

23:55

can invest in the projects your thought

23:57

about the s c kind going walk into the

23:59

climate yeah in

24:01

a building a retired built

24:03

refineries and decade in can

24:05

the u s worse can build new

24:08

or five you're

24:13

not going to be the and that's makers bring

24:16

isn't available because

24:18

, government committed

24:20

policies you surely reading

24:22

green which is to so unrealistic

24:24

of course and you

24:27

that that's that big problem that we're facing is

24:29

facing lack of resign read the city

24:32

and s again make it more reliant

24:34

on the board source of what if purposeful

24:36

john and with simple you

24:40

about what's going on fill obvious to

24:42

, so many people that

24:45

purpose host is a fundamental transformation

24:48

of america that we've been promised

24:50

obama when obama it end as you

24:52

did he

24:55

did we wait wait he was ready

24:57

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25:00

will this is another step towards that

25:02

john you only fundamentally transform

25:05

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25:07

me you want you to me

25:12

why a replace it with in the

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25:23

exactly her further and the funny thing is

25:25

this is present that ran as middle class joe i

25:27

understand i feel your pain it

25:29

doesn't seem feel the pain a middle class or get about

25:31

thirty seconds left what will the middle

25:33

class say in this upcoming election

25:36

i'm sure they're going assure you that read

25:38

way you know is it looks it it

25:40

is insanity to keep going go

25:42

along the way that we're we're going and as

25:44

expected anything that again the think things

25:46

are it worse before they get better and that's

25:48

why are people need be involved

25:51

the show up in both state needs

25:53

you know the union don't accommodate

25:55

constitutional conservatives to understand

25:58

the economy you understand resources that

26:01

let's get it done evaluating

26:04

gone on there is

26:06

back in d c and that you

26:08

don't period candidate needs be recognized

26:11

and need be elected we

26:13

we need that common sense from alaska that

26:15

you britain governor so glad to have you

26:17

on the show today thanks for joining us

26:20

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26:24

oil and gas association you can tell us what

26:26

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26:28

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back america during to be now as since do

29:23

it he serves as the president of us

29:25

oil and gas association and was about as near

29:27

to the same breath abby on the show

29:29

thanks for having me it's good be with you this morning it

29:31

is in is pretty remarkable the things

29:34

you're under the obama biden restoration

29:36

we saw we saw dollar ninety seven

29:38

peak think of gasoline then job way

29:40

down under donald trump by the good highest

29:42

ever got was under three dollars and was omitted

29:44

to when turned keys over now

29:46

we're back at over far as you add

29:49

five dollars historic new level how

29:51

did we follow that course and we go

29:53

from being so successful to being upside

29:55

down again

29:56

the lot of factors involved in that obviously

29:59

if you recall there is significant demand collapse

30:01

back the i in april of the

30:03

of twenty when little oil actually want

30:05

to minus thirty four dollars barrel there

30:07

is so much oil and so little capacity

30:09

we're paying people not take delivery

30:12

and that demand claps i obviously

30:14

was part of pandemic is also lead

30:16

in part by the attack from the russian

30:19

in saudi industry against us shale

30:21

industry as well and so those those

30:23

two primary factors lead to some relatively

30:26

quite affordable or gasoline prices

30:28

for american consumers are ,

30:30

claimed we climbed on the pandemic and the

30:32

shale industry survived that full on

30:34

market assault from the saudis the russians

30:37

and we found ourselves in a pretty good situation

30:39

until january twentieth or twenty

30:41

twenty one when the my administration came in

30:43

in i'm going to point fingers we were doing pretty

30:46

well as an industry and as an economy

30:48

until the my administration began his full

30:50

on frontal assault to er en

30:52

un the gas industry we knew it was coming

30:54

next day campaigned on it and

30:56

the day they came in they began to implement

30:58

their actions odd day by day and week

31:00

by week over one hundred those are different

31:03

actions i'd never met

31:05

roughly every five days eg against

31:07

industry and result is where now

31:09

reaping the where now

31:11

rewards of the as bad policies i

31:13

find fascinating that you know yet us

31:16

to the present send letter to the industry and

31:18

use threatening to invoke emergency powers

31:20

which is essentially just reverses on policy

31:22

decisions it's unbelievable

31:26

yeah i've i've never seen abbott martian thirty

31:28

years ever seen anything like that the

31:30

other is this myth of big oil we're talking

31:33

about it was secretary bernard just a little bit ago

31:35

that your these big oil companies are just

31:37

dowding people would in fact most of the front

31:39

line producer the people like panics our partners

31:42

under zone their

31:43

mid sized companies that employ lots

31:45

of americans and they need some regulatory

31:47

certainly they can just turn around and start

31:49

drilling on day's notice suck

31:51

but the dynamic also the fact that big

31:53

was a big that

31:55

that's a great point know in problem

31:57

is is is an environment like this ministry

32:00

and just paint the entire industry which is not

32:02

monolithic at all as big oil

32:04

eighty three percent of all the production

32:07

that comes in the united states comes from those independent

32:09

companies they're like farmers they

32:11

they produced the product they put it out there price

32:14

takers they take whatever the product is and

32:16

yet they also are very much subject

32:18

to the market conditions and so i

32:20

these small independent family owned

32:22

companies some of them are legacy company

32:24

has been around for three or four generations

32:27

i they've survived through different business

32:29

cycles and yet they still get up in morning

32:31

and do what they need to deal which is to produce

32:33

oil and gas for the american economy and

32:36

it's really frustrating to be honest with you

32:38

to to watch the white house which

32:40

which is demonstrated really

32:43

ignorant in terms of of their understanding

32:45

of of the of economics and the market

32:48

the way the mark energy markets work they

32:50

assume that accompanies small company

32:52

can simply turn on this big and turn it off

32:54

and and if they decide to turn off in

32:56

prices increase in gosh dang their price

32:58

gouging it's not that's not how it is it

33:01

is a as a frankly it's a colossal failure

33:03

leadership on behalf of the white house in this

33:05

administration not to foresee that

33:07

their own actions are creating the

33:10

exact situation that we're in right now it

33:13

is funding

33:14

one of the consequences of the

33:16

biden policies that we've become more reliant

33:19

again and overseas oil project from opec

33:21

countries like saudi arabia and of course there's

33:23

this argument with trying to become more environmentally

33:26

friendly but are opec nations nearly

33:28

as effective in clean to the environment

33:30

as american drilling and

33:32

absolutely not lucky and american barrel of

33:34

oil is the queensboro oil on the world

33:36

the way we the way we find it the way we extracted

33:39

the way refine at the way we we use it here

33:41

in marketplace is the cleanest in the world

33:43

every other country in that country that produces

33:46

i energy a produces while gas comes

33:48

to the united states in the us industry for

33:50

expertise how do how do they do what

33:52

we do and reality as it is

33:54

much smarter environmentally and as much

33:56

smarter economically to be producing

33:59

a barrel boil out oklahoma colorado

34:01

or nor decoder texas and it is to be

34:03

getting out of venezuela or in saudi

34:05

arabia or stickley russia and

34:08

and again as it is takes us to this

34:10

frustrating odds said situation

34:12

where for whatever reason as the white house is preparing

34:14

to go saudi arabia saudi

34:16

oil in their mind is is better than

34:18

than us soil i i don't understand that

34:21

yeah like a lot of americans are scratching just

34:23

like they couldn't understand shutting down transgender

34:25

the pipeline and then letting our vladimir

34:27

if you have one to come through your before the

34:29

war on ukraine if if

34:31

as people scratching their heads i

34:34

want to ask a little bit about new initiative

34:36

the by the administration as well as i am a

34:38

funny feeling is going have big effect on

34:40

consumers downstream the securities

34:43

and exchange commission has started what they call

34:45

the environmental social and corporate governance

34:47

wrong and going apply the oil and gas industry

34:50

our what those are and what the downstream

34:52

from progress you're going be car as consumers

34:55

when they're impose

34:56

well term put him in as close layman's

34:59

terms as we can okay it is very very

35:01

complex rule which the fcc

35:03

is trying to jam through and just matter of thirty

35:06

or sixty days we actually responded

35:08

with our comments i to the scc

35:10

yesterday we filed them about seventy

35:12

pages of comments that us on

35:14

gas association combined with western

35:16

energy lives put in our in our comments what

35:19

, is designed and the simplest terms

35:21

is to be able to require

35:24

a locally traded companies to to

35:26

monitor and record their greenhouse gas

35:28

emissions their climate footprint example

35:31

example problematic his ass is

35:33

called scope one scope to in scope three

35:35

scope wanna go to the in the publicly

35:37

traded companies can get handle on if

35:40

i'm an inner if i'm an oil gas produced can someone

35:42

get handle on what my actual production

35:44

activities the impact the impact of act

35:46

know that climate for prom with the with

35:48

, problem is when you go further further

35:50

down the value chain and that what falls into his

35:52

for falls into scope three essentially

35:54

day as i need to as and when gas producers

35:57

told you not only what my footprint is

36:00

my suppliers my vendors and

36:02

the people that work with what they're footprint

36:04

is as well and so i may have

36:07

i made made company like caliber for

36:09

example has seventy thousand different

36:11

vendors have they have to operate with

36:13

that can extend from anything from a widget maker

36:15

to a to a trucking company to a catering

36:17

company and if i don't have

36:19

the ability to reach that far down into

36:21

the the value chain to tell you what the catering

36:23

companies footprint is this servicing

36:25

my cruise on middle the west desert texas

36:28

now sonoma i'd be come under scrutiny

36:31

from the fcc which then puts me under scrutiny

36:33

from wall street that's the real problematic

36:35

thing is essentially for want of better

36:38

word it is he knows that we have concerns

36:40

rather chinese social credit system this system

36:42

this is the the white divide white house

36:44

trying to implement a carbon footprint social

36:46

credit system not only for publicly

36:48

traded companies before everybody that they work

36:50

with and it's very very problematic it

36:52

is the extends reach government far far

36:54

greater than it ever should be

36:56

when the compliance costs goes up i mean there's

36:58

no place to do but to share their downstream

37:01

to the consumer right

37:02

exactly your the cosco optics to the

37:04

consumers have to bear the costs for the other problem

37:06

also is what is sort of the the corporate

37:09

search ah reputation

37:11

what does that mean that if i can't get complete

37:14

to reporting out of my vendors

37:16

and i have to listen those vendors go for

37:18

example will you does not i'm under scrutiny

37:20

from wall street the mortal say so have

37:22

to go back in and in mesa there

37:24

buddy we work with has been too busy with compliance

37:26

the farmers we may be producing i'd

37:28

i'd you know ethanol for

37:30

out a plan may not be able to monitor

37:33

his greenhouse gas emissions and yet somehow

37:35

that biofuels refiners been have to report

37:37

on that again is very very problematic

37:39

as nor is a quagmire

37:41

going and forgot about forty five side of what

37:44

do those front line drillers need

37:47

what certainty whether they need the vitamin station

37:49

to start ramping up good old american

37:51

oil rather than relying on saudi out what

37:54

the magic solution

37:55

well frankly magic solutions honestly start

37:57

fire and some people who got us in this mess

37:59

for that you know washington for whatever

38:01

reason is the only place to settle down with

38:03

the only entity that actually rewards failure

38:05

over success and side i have lot of the

38:07

that's gonna happen but then again i

38:09

john united said is overweight get

38:11

out of our way

38:12

stop doing what you're doing you know yesterday

38:14

the senate is sector even of energy

38:17

center earnings jennifer granholm was

38:19

beaten up on industry the same time her own

38:21

agency or put out a new rules

38:23

on gas furnaces to make harder

38:25

for americans to buy gas furnaces the unless

38:27

they're completely energy efficient so

38:29

it says it's this say the problem

38:31

of putting one obstacle in and complaining about

38:33

why we're not been able to overcome that obstacle

38:35

they need get on the way they need to cut the crap improve

38:37

our permits they needed to

38:39

get back to helping us permit and move infrastructure

38:42

basically pipelines

38:44

and and an die lng persuade

38:46

get those permits approved and out the door

38:48

and the file thing that they need to do is

38:50

to go back wall street and save energy

38:53

as a long game fossil fuel energy

38:55

as a long game it is the best that we

38:57

have to place the next next fifty years

38:59

and no matter what john terry says we

39:01

need to get a smidgen there

39:04

absolutely certain that that's what we need any more

39:06

certainly aren't necessarily think i quit commercial break

39:08

when we come back one the country's premier experts

39:11

on energy senior fellow at the manhattan institute

39:13

in northwestern university faculty member mark

39:15

males will join us excellent ethnic promotion

39:40

everybody

39:44

joining us are one the country's premier experts

39:46

on energy is a senior fellow at manhattan

39:48

institute in the northwestern university

39:50

faculty fellow as well marked males

39:52

margaret the have you back the show

39:55

are we ready back john thanks are

39:57

we are looking at this extraordinary moment

39:59

bar

40:00

they were going to go overseas saudi

40:02

arabia and ask for some or oil gas

40:04

production when in the united states

40:06

where by the way oil gas is greener were

40:08

were straining or supply in

40:10

production ah we get ourselves

40:12

into this dynamic

40:16

what we know the answer it's called politics

40:18

and maybe the second answer is climate

40:21

aspirations are the

40:23

call green energy aspirations we've had

40:25

maybe twenty years what

40:28

i am on kindly called feckless policies

40:30

and the energy domain which a bit

40:33

monomer likely focused on reducing

40:35

oil and gas use by disincentivize

40:38

a invent invent unite the our investment

40:41

, space sort of this administration

40:43

has made no secret of their desire

40:46

to quote transition away from oil gas

40:49

or in fact no you

40:52

don't have to work very hard to go to the magic

40:54

google machine to look at the list

40:56

of things that have been done in last year and half

40:58

or two to accelerate the impediments

41:00

oil or gas including when gasoline

41:03

was already north of four dollars a barrel the

41:05

administration are reversed of

41:07

offshore releases in alaska the

41:09

gulf of mexico i've increased regulations

41:12

of announcing tracings of regulations in

41:15

kind of environment you don't find lot

41:17

enthusiasm for long term investments

41:19

and that's it half of what's happened

41:22

the other half is that the oil gas industry

41:24

is a supply chain industry like all other industries

41:27

and it got damaged by the a covert

41:29

lockdowns and recovering the labor

41:31

force recovering the infrastructure

41:34

not easy especially as against headwinds

41:36

so that should be no surprise

41:39

that supply is not catching up

41:41

with the man prices go up add

41:43

to that the ukraine invasion now

41:45

the shock to the system and actresses

41:47

like an accelerant it's to use the old

41:50

expression is like shocking seals

41:52

on fucker yeah absolutely

41:55

though his weight is clear the by the

41:57

message of wants to move people away from

42:00

a gap in oil now coal living

42:02

but be either nirvana other

42:04

everybody gets an electric car they plug it

42:06

in at night we

42:08

are be infrastructure for that we anywhere close

42:10

to having the infrastructure for that

42:12

that's easy answer to to

42:14

letter word know a

42:16

, we can't begin to build the

42:18

infrastructure the scales needed fast

42:21

enough not just to alleviate

42:24

alleviate gasoline prices right now in the

42:26

immediate future but for the next the

42:29

is very simplistically if we if

42:32

we shift transportation from up

42:34

of hydrocarbons oil nine

42:36

seven percent of all transportation's oil fired

42:39

to shift that to the electric sector

42:41

you roughly half the double the electric sectors

42:43

infrastructure sectors were barely

42:46

able to keep up with reliable actress it is supplied

42:48

now because of the mandates for

42:50

wind mandates solar if you the

42:52

double the challenge or in

42:54

this short time vladimir decade

42:57

of you just it's just not it's

42:59

not practical is never mind aspirations

43:01

i'm up in , rating

43:03

of people's parades say something sharp

43:05

practical side you're hoping

43:08

bridge of get dealt when you're driving towards driving

43:11

and the out maybe you wanna get

43:13

there tomorrow but the bridge takes two years to

43:15

build the kind time frames talking

43:17

about in renewable energy world as the bridges

43:19

that people on adult minerals

43:22

and electric grid and for refining

43:24

infrastructures for those minerals to make green

43:26

machines and batteries those time

43:28

frames are decades not years or

43:30

months it's , fifty years

43:33

to build the global oil gas

43:35

infrastructure to size of has

43:37

to support massive world economy still

43:39

take that long to expand the other infrastructures

43:42

to join oil and gas not to

43:44

replace it that's that's the bottom

43:46

line we're going to need both in bigger

43:48

world resort area about thirty

43:50

seconds of natural gas could cut carbon

43:52

emissions now and still keep up on

43:54

up fire that's already

43:57

has america has the world's

43:59

greatest mouse will go the reserves has

44:01

a displays cause pure economic

44:03

basis germany there now foreign that

44:05

coal plants because they didn't

44:07

take our offer to ship them gas

44:10

years ago and now they're gonna

44:12

take the offer but it'll take years to reverse

44:14

it and remarkable bad decision

44:16

the bad bad decisions marred know one thing we

44:18

always good for you good advice thank

44:20

you so much for joining us and give us of these inside

44:23

thank you thank you sir all right folks who going

44:25

to take a quick fragrant me come back senior vice president

44:28

panic gabor will be joining us as

44:30

always a fun conversation he knows

44:32

what the really liked the front lines of

44:34

the energy industry will have that

45:00

no

45:05

one of my great friend an excellent

45:07

extra when comes to explaining how did

45:09

we get to this point in the energy crisis

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joining us right now is jay burrow

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senior vice president of tennis oil and gas

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one our sponsorship that i joe j welcome

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back and thank you for sponsors and i conversation

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yeah no problem

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you don't eat are at night

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yeah i'm doing fine or is on

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sundays we can do in an era of five hour

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guess i want ask you about i can begin lot

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of different expectations for

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the bread the bursting with president trump saw

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joe biden said that said it was the

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big oil gas companies are now is

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vladimir beautiful

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a t v out of the real problem is that

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since he took office he has restrained

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or the supply while demand for

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oil gas is gonna is it anything

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more complicated than that

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no i just basic economics

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or supply demand when when demand

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exceeds supply prices going go

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and

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when president biden came office we were

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coming out of pandemic everybody started

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wake up and work again the

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same time we start restricting production

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well mean that's

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pretty simple calculation about point

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that when you're when you're consuming more

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than you produce and you're not investing enough to produce

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more it's

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pretty clear picture what's gonna happen with prices and

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that's always a way out over last year

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so yeah it's really remarkable

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the watch with him and also for the media nothing

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really accurate story about what's going on

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ah the president wants to go to countries

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like saudi arabia

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opec countries when is all this abundance

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of oil and gas year when you see them someone

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industry who know they can solve this

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problem if government would get the way would

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you say it's

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use it brings you back the as we discussed

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before you'd never really want to questions about

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his motives that makes you wonder what

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they're trying to do because are historically

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if you have a population that has a certain

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there are certain way they live their life and you

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want change that what

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you make it more difficult you make it painful

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to continue what they've been doing so they

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choose an alternate that that

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she's mean you don't have to just

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listen to what they've been sacked whether

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it's the energy secretary weather's

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president biden pretty

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much anyone on this is a were in the

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middle of transition and until you gonna

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go and on what bar when little

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this transition the dot inaudibly

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many people voted for this and so

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then you start looking at why they're doing because it just

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really doesn't make any sense look

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what look at what europe is going through right

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now the fear of being

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basically the

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vanderbilt the controls their energy

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the decides cut him off their in trouble in

47:43

an attic the exact same bag on bang

47:45

the bondsman right now in

47:47

other countries to produce or or so

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it just doesn't make sense that makes america really

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this is in a position of weakness on world

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stage and man i target

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american look weak i

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think most

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and are they have that same feeling that you have

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an uneasy fit in their stomach or

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this transition they're obviously what they're talking

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about that a transition to an electric

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future i want ask you a someone

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it's in the energy business is the grid ready

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for that the we have the batteries who we have

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the charging capability and if we don't

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run the wrong costs are transition you

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have a better solution to a lower carbon

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our future that doesn't involve a rush

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the electricity what that right

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yeah and the army john a huge if you look at it

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i don't believe there's one neighborhood

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america their electric

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grid is ready to handle every zoc of every

48:36

car charging every night the it would

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break it would crash the grits so

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when you look at the alternatives and

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and that's the be some zero game they

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it is if you're against alternatives

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you want pollute the environment when nothing could be

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further from the true that most

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people that are for oil and gas

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want use was utilized in a plane manner

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want utilize it in way that does it

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harm you're not you look at the united

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states you look at the you'll

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get our natural resources that we're

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we already have more natural gas than anymore

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now the infrastructure incomplete but the natural

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gas infrastructure the

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well so much further back than our electric

49:16

infrastructure right would take few

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modifications the mess we can move straight

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a natural gas and eliminate all this and

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would still be burning the cleanest fuel out

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there other the neutral now

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one day something is

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gonna come along the trumps all

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of this the and will move out your carbon from

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picture when it comes to energy production

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but when you think about it a forty two gallon

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drum of oil nightingale

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and gas that's

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less than fifty percent

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the rest of go to other products whether be jet

49:47

fuel whether be cheating or whether be

49:49

synthetics whether be chemicals weather at

49:51

so you have literally we're dealing with

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less than fifty percent of what oil is useful

49:56

so when you look at the natural

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gas option that's

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the only option that makes sense you

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could convert every corn american run on

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natural gas run i run a pipeline

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to each arm at we run ourselves on it

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though it's been done we know how do

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it that were choosing not to a

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just that it makes you question motives

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biggest head scratcher most american favourite

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now as now as make sense

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i want to ask about the the

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different ways of the binding illustration has

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suffocated supply trans canada

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pipeline we know about we know about the ending

50:28

of drilling releases and closing off areas

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and alaskan other places that we can't

50:32

drill there's new one that seems to be

50:34

raising a lot of concerning this is it from

50:36

the scc these new e s g

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roles that sort of take awoke ideology

50:41

and put them into the financial marketplace

50:43

how can that be how is that affecting the industry

50:46

oh what it it has people

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scared death if you

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take company like that we

50:52

don't want our programs through batch

50:54

we don't want our programs do institutions weep

50:56

on our programs one partner to

50:58

time

50:59

the really doesn't affect company like like

51:01

mine because we don't get our money from the banks however

51:04

you look the shale and lot

51:06

about work was finance from the banks what

51:08

your own oil and gas company then

51:11

you need a dollar to drill a well and the bank

51:13

is the company that is getting you that dollar and

51:16

all sudden they decide not give it to you you're

51:18

trouble especially if you don't have enough

51:20

production the cover that dot special

51:23

war again gas gas the america

51:25

special dependent war on oil gas

51:27

dependent war energy energy the

51:30

the you put restrictions on what money

51:32

they can eat generator the

51:34

older company that's all this may

51:36

have start doing different things so

51:39

when you look at the y not

51:41

really can't speak for anybody else i'd be for us

51:44

we look at the american oil industry in

51:46

our thought process the really hadn't

51:48

been a major oil and gas

51:51

company america built

51:53

on american production the

51:55

close to forty years amazing

51:57

and so that really goes back that puts us

51:59

the in a witness we're speaking about minute

52:01

ago so why not

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why not try to have an american

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only company consolidate as much

52:08

oil as they can we

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can reduce the pressure on the american people in

52:13

the that's really gonna what we're veering towards the

52:15

back somebody's gonna do that

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might as well be a group of people that love american want the

52:19

best course of it would be so much better

52:21

though it is the right way to go we had about a middle

52:24

of them when asked what integrating him panic you

52:26

have a plan to try to turn this around

52:28

or how do ever you're an american ulysses

52:31

alice i want help i want to make this happen

52:33

politically economically what's the best

52:35

way to dive in and try to get this change

52:37

we get back the better a better energy

52:39

opposition in america

52:41

well step number one eight

52:45

years understand

52:47

it

52:48

their goal was to make it so confusing

52:50

that you don't want to engage and

52:52

it's not countries one plus one equals

52:55

to there's a when you go in and you

52:57

look at a barrel of oil and everything

52:59

that has created from a barrel or and

53:01

you look at natural gas and everything that can

53:03

be accomplished with natural gas or new

53:05

killer and then you look at the the battery

53:07

power the solar power the wind power the water

53:10

the understand the full scope of what

53:12

they're wanting us to do and

53:14

then you can speak intelligently about

53:16

it to everybody else all it starts

53:18

as one conversation between neighbors and

53:21

that snowball starts rolling and

53:23

you know the picture this on the screen right now who

53:25

wants to look out on the horizon and see

53:28

windmills covering the rise i

53:30

drive into florida here couple of months ago

53:33

and i made my kids take pictures up because

53:35

i was told he overhears were dot all

53:37

and gas it's it's horrible it's scar on

53:39

their on the horizon you see those contracts

53:42

and all a sudden we look over in there's field

53:45

solar panels nothing

53:47

but weaves growing up between him and i'm talking

53:50

probably thirty eight years worth solar

53:52

pets while you know i'm i'm driving

53:54

to pennsylvania with my son to play baseball there

53:56

is certain spot when cross from maryland

53:58

and go on through then you come into pennsylvania

54:01

if there's a beautiful pristine countries

54:03

audio line you look and then all

54:05

the senate the top using nothing but when

54:08

mills across the top of and

54:10

so it's like hang on who's really destroying

54:13

the environment and and so you gotta ask yourself

54:16

when do you start calling it yeah

54:18

when do you start looking at them and saying

54:20

hang on this doesn't make sense

54:22

and you're hurting people by doing yeah

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