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good evening american welcome to this the
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the newsreel america's voiced special how
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the war on gas and and oil made america
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energy-dependent again i'm your host john solomon
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tonight in partnership with our our sponsor
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and discuss how how the by the administration's domestic
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an international policy shift, are
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emboldening l beck and
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other foreign adversaries around world while
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supply demand to increase are
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here in in the united states continue to suffer
2:57
greatly at at the the gas pump and grocery stores
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and even in the real estate market the obama
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biden wideouts to the trump administration's
3:04
policies and now president biden first
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two years in office strain relationships
3:09
liberal political strategy eastern european
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war and further turmoil have
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impacted our nation's into becoming
3:15
energy dependence again the from is hard
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to believe over the course of the next
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hour we're going to be joined by a former secretary
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of interior under president trump us
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an oil gas association president and
3:26
others to learn just how the oil and gas
3:28
marketplace has been decimated rebuilt
3:31
and relied upon over the other than decimated
3:33
again wasn't here sicily from
3:35
panic as executive leadership later in
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the our up or how
3:39
they are probably trying to salvage ongoing
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energy prices happening under president
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biden our very lucky start show up
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with president trump's former secretary of the
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and series david bernhardt in here join us
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today mister secretary an honor to have
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you are
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thrive in me i really appreciated look for
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the conversation it's such an
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important conversation is almost hard
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the remember two years ago when you turn
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the keys over to the biden administration we
4:04
were energy independent gases around two
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dollars gallon how did we get
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to this point five dollars as
4:10
and and collapsing market
4:13
well it all started on day one when
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this president they came and office
4:18
made a decision
4:19
the made a decision to put climate activism
4:22
over energy independence
4:25
is for one of his first actions
4:27
on day one was to
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lay out of energy or
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agenda which included as
4:33
stopping the keystone pipeline pausing
4:36
oil and gas activities on federal land
4:38
which make up about thirty percent of energy
4:40
production and arm and
4:42
since seen you in a little need of
4:45
activities and then he staff the
4:47
agencies with climate activists who
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are hostile to arm
4:52
traditional forms of energy and
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so it's no surprise that as a result
4:57
of that concerted effort we
4:59
seen a dramatic impact
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who are energy security we
5:04
seen as slowdown in the development
5:06
of energy ,
5:08
we seen a hostilities to
5:10
the energy industry that says
5:13
hey we want you out of the business
5:15
in few years and all of that it's had
5:17
a tremendous effect in
5:19
an impact a negative way
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new investment new investment that we
5:23
need for drive additional
5:26
supply of energy and
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because there's not new investment
5:30
are driving ah supply
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ah what you have is tremendous
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impact on the demand side that is simply
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not been met and
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we have prices
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that we've never ever seen
5:44
before it's absolutely stunning
5:47
it's a demonstration of hostility
5:49
and the amazing thing is that this president
5:51
could stop it issuing
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a a new
5:56
policy that says hey are fossil
5:58
fuels have important future in
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this country we need to make energy investments
6:03
and we need to proceed quickly
6:06
forward with leasing and pipeline
6:08
permitting it today
6:10
he has not been willing to issue a
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, our policy direction
6:16
and as result the american people would continue
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to shove suffer not only in the short
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term but the mid term and potentially
6:22
the long term and less things turn around
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yeah because he markets or long term market
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they they take time to make adjustments the what
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he's already done is really remarkable i
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want to fill out your act because we're when president
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obama was in office we
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were energy dependence then the trump administration
6:39
with you and others made us energy
6:41
independent and we've gone backwards again what
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did the trump administration duty get together
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so quickly the energy indifferent
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we had a couple things that were really
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important in and the first
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is the american entrepreneurship
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an american our technology
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lead to where we know is this
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the fracking or shale revolution
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which unleashed on oil
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reserves that we're not besides
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would be available in future and they started that
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really in the obama administration
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on private lands what president
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trump did that was exceptional is
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we took that great energy resonant
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resonance that that technical
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innovation and that opportunity and
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we moved it forward arm
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on to our public lands
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and so those two things together
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drove on dramatic reduction
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and and this this president
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has said those properties
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you , the goal is that those properties are
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off limits and arm indeed
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future of for this entire
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industry is bleak and as
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just simply not consistent
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with arm where are
7:54
the demand for future will be and
7:57
on where demand is today demand as today result
7:59
that there tremendous price pressure
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and tremendous harm or to
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the american public into the american consumer
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and to american jobs and so now we have
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situation where a shutdown
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the american side of the equation and
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he's literally the administration is literally
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going to other countries and same
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please of up your production
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and on do that in way that's actually
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less environmentally benign arm
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then in america it's america it's
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incredible
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nowadays and you mention the security factor
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when we have rely on a russia
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on a saudi arabia venezuela
8:35
all other countries that part of the opec
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cartel are we are not as
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safe as we used to be this is actually a geopolitical
8:43
reduction in our security what has happened under
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president by night
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that's absolutely true and the great thing
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that i was able to witness serving witness
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serving trump administration was
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the foreign policy decisions
8:56
that president trump it make because
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of our strength and energy freed
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up the ability to make
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our decisions are that
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involved no not
9:07
necessarily putting troops in
9:10
places in the middle east it east it
9:12
fried and enhanced america's
9:14
interest while at the same time
9:17
enhancing american economic
9:19
opportunity and to simply
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arm ah shut that
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process down create friction and
9:25
that makes no sense or
9:28
or the environment no sense for american
9:30
security and certainly no
9:32
sense or the american
9:34
consumer
9:35
now a dozen and they know every time you a gas
9:37
father does have a sense anymore i say that
9:40
i'm out there is this extraordinary
9:43
the answer the the biden administration give which
9:45
is don't worry about i gas prices
9:47
you're going to be able to buy an electric car sunday
9:49
we are a long ways away
9:51
from having an infrastructure that could support
9:54
any large mass deployment of
9:56
electric cars how many years or we
9:58
apart from that him alive
10:00
there's such miscalculation the on by the
10:02
mistress not realizing the infrastructures
10:04
not there well
10:06
first off we are a long long ways
10:08
from a position where everyone
10:11
could have an electric vehicle we
10:13
have system in place to provide
10:16
for those vehicles and that are that
10:18
are pretty even handle that
10:20
magnitude of delivery
10:22
is just simply not realistic and
10:25
on the simple answer
10:27
to that is the energy
10:30
and electricity systems
10:32
we have incredibly complex
10:34
they were built over literally
10:37
the last cluttered and twelve years
10:39
and you can't drop a
10:42
arm and grenade into that system
10:44
and think there won't be massive
10:47
or and parks and that's exactly
10:49
what this administration's wrote chose
10:52
to do they are dropped hand grenade
10:54
hand they didn't have didn't have they didn't have a
10:56
solution for the american workers for
10:58
actual jobs they didn't have a solution
11:00
for the american consumers who
11:02
are now paying more
11:05
, at the gas pump more in
11:07
every product we buy driven
11:10
by by energy
11:12
costs and it's simply a
11:15
dogma of climate activism
11:18
without activism well thought out plan
11:20
of what the consequences to
11:22
the american people would be and then once
11:25
they have seen is consequences they
11:27
haven't submitted that to me
11:29
as the absolute incredible thing
11:32
that we'd have basically an
11:34
executive branch this decided they've
11:36
dug themselves in a whole and they're just
11:39
gonna keep digging even
11:41
even the clinton administration and
11:44
the obama administration have
11:46
found ways to modulate or
11:48
their policies and what we're seeing here
11:50
is there's just no interest modulation
11:53
and i fear that the american
11:55
people are in for a long long
11:58
expensive next three years and
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this is what we get when we
12:02
allow extremists and activists
12:05
to arms control these
12:08
agencies there's a tremendous consequence
12:11
that there is really got about thirty seconds left
12:13
want to have as a we keep hearing big oil's
12:15
to blame but most of the people that jail for
12:18
other mid size or smaller companies and
12:20
will employ a lot of people why is there the
12:22
myth of big oil
12:24
well work on everybody likes to
12:26
have furniture right but here's here's
12:28
the thing the oil companies
12:30
going to do very well right now honestly
12:33
but they've also had a decade
12:35
where they did very very poorly and
12:37
so you know what we have
12:39
is his situation right now where
12:41
people believe i'm
12:44
a hostility over the american government
12:46
is such that they're not gonna want to invest
12:49
in oil and gas and what we need right
12:51
now although companies are stepping
12:53
forward we need more production
12:55
or we need a crash and demand
12:58
and arm and that is not good
13:01
for the american economy when you look at most
13:03
the last several big recessions
13:06
what you see is that they were driven
13:08
by extremely high
13:10
energy costs and we're on that
13:12
pathway right now and without
13:14
increasing supply we
13:16
are going to have a bigger problem
13:19
later this year i , even
13:21
imagine being bigger than it is but you're right
13:23
everybody i'm talking to was saying the same thing mr
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secretary first thanks for getting our country
13:28
to energy independence lot people forget
13:30
what you did for this country and are perfect
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for helping explain if i we got into this mess
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so much a really really i enjoyed conversation
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and now widely assumed to become
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state of alaska joining us right now is gov
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sarah palin governor gray to have you ever so john
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i appreciate the invitation well you
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know energy you have been talking about
17:04
going all the way back to the side you are running
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for vice president we have this moment
17:09
where joe biden has shut off the spigot in
17:11
america gas prices are off the off
17:13
the charts and the solution seems
17:16
to be sitting right in front of us what's
17:18
going on here
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well biden is so clueless
17:23
about into the simple solutions
17:25
and it's common sense illusions we just
17:27
need to be applied i never
17:29
been one when he directed
17:31
his administration they
17:34
, regret things differently
17:37
doing here
17:39
to hide him coming from i'm
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in argue that shut
17:44
up the supply of domestic
17:46
energy h allowing the federal
17:48
lands to beach and
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i'm allowing you're
17:54
lot of a better relationship
17:56
with your oil companies and what we're seeing
17:59
and in dimitri you
18:02
know how good stuff and
18:04
as it is a predictable what
18:07
yeah benefit of course now where
18:09
any energy cry that but
18:11
there are hundreds of solutions to get back
18:13
on track i do not seek
18:15
out the biden is will the even
18:17
less sense to what does solutions
18:20
are
18:20
it is remarkable in fact they keep
18:22
talking about transition but it's a transition
18:25
that america is nowhere near ready make we
18:27
don't have the electricity grid that can support
18:29
all the electric cars we don't have the batteries
18:31
i could do it out the best
18:33
opportunity i think the start the correction process
18:36
will be this election in november republicans
18:38
have a very different plan you have articulated
18:41
you run for the congressional he there are
18:43
very specific plan ah to get americans
18:46
are energy unleashed again health
18:48
of bit about way republicans will take this country next
18:50
year
18:52
republicans and have really got
18:54
to put pressure on the administration
18:56
even until our that read
18:58
way that ushered in in mid
19:00
terms as ,
19:03
of biden as expected
19:05
he'll he'll be over in your ideas
19:08
ideas the he meant he
19:11
their reserves in the weekend and
19:13
gym for fear energy sources when of
19:15
course we we have this applies here of
19:17
applies so our
19:20
our our nation with them be
19:22
energy resources that we could we possibly
19:24
develop more responsible
19:26
each than any other nation and
19:29
dumb and we can't wait until
19:31
that read way even though the soon there
19:35
is no huge when when comes to
19:37
an arena look and
19:39
exerting their power right
19:46
the federal man to
19:48
fight against biden thirty for
19:51
thirty by thirty plan which course the on
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is that his commitment to our
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locking up thirty percent of federal lands
19:57
by twenty three all the
19:59
area item of
20:01
them were the math and the numbers
20:03
we are federal lancers lawsuit
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by braden i'm an die it
20:09
tragic and it's it's an effect
20:12
every single aspect of airline people
20:14
don't understand preserve switch i
20:16
had the price of gas of the pumpkin at
20:18
noon and forty two few lot my tracks
20:21
and in you don't we all we all feel
20:23
that in our own a book with
20:26
the tree pretty ah
20:28
lubber consumer goods are just
20:30
in the course with his increase in
20:32
energy prices and you
20:35
, petroleum product which are all around
20:37
us he retired he made out oil
20:39
practically plastic pot
20:41
metics metics you either
20:44
just given everything be made out of the joints
20:46
and at so of course the price
20:48
of everything it's just that because supply
20:50
of low domestically and there's no excuse
20:52
for we have to determine
20:56
yeah there's no doubt about it in i
20:58
think we see when we look what a vladimir
21:00
putin has done to eastern europe in recent
21:02
months shutting off the using oil
21:04
and energy as a geopolitical
21:06
weapon america was far
21:08
less dependent just two years ago on foreign oil
21:10
now we're so much more dependent there
21:12
is a national security threat year that know
21:14
you're deeply concerned about
21:18
there's been an era link between energy
21:20
and security and energy and prosperity
21:24
let me give you another example of what we could be
21:26
doing you tap into our domestic
21:28
supplies for the or much reliance
21:30
on the a dirty and dangerous
21:32
sources of energy that point at
21:34
evidently to be plenty of a
21:37
, and i didn't want to travel out of
21:39
high point system edge i
21:42
met with the athletes two million
21:44
barrels two million was flowing through
21:47
nectar create any down the
21:50
pipeline and allow
21:52
the was the pie about eighty
21:54
percent of us domestic supply of energy
21:56
well today with will come from two million
21:58
barrels a day to four
22:00
hundred thousand barrels day each my
22:03
cellular engineer the big mouth
22:05
that nut the small about adam
22:08
of course that says the pointer their underfoot
22:10
what's going on today though is oil
22:12
companies l b vitamins
22:15
that these people aged between after
22:17
my questions they didn't i'm sure they
22:19
don't understand why with
22:22
, today and get me going to
22:24
meet with oil executive no
22:27
get worse shape detail
22:32
he to be
22:35
an oil company shut down ready
22:37
and they do that because just doesn't
22:39
can pull out his for economic reasons
22:42
for such a be shut down or
22:45
evidently things that you can just flip switch
22:47
and get that right back up and running and
22:49
all guy or girl more more
22:52
progress it doesn't work that way yeah
22:55
nine years to ran
22:57
back up production that has been
22:59
shut down by the government
23:01
so they're not even up
23:03
in whitehall students and republicans
23:06
, today that you're in dc
23:09
they do with the solutions are i
23:11
do not know why they are not more adamant
23:14
inch and bad you don't just more
23:16
passionate about allowing
23:18
this is hop flows domestically
23:20
because deal just a good back
23:22
to your suggestion their this
23:24
our country is less safe
23:27
because that inherently tweet energy supplies
23:30
and national security or less safe
23:32
the way things are going yeah i am i
23:34
thinking what you just like i so import most
23:36
americans don't realize is there is a long
23:38
tail to at a hour energy in oil
23:40
exploration and it starts with investors
23:43
our money have conferencing i think
23:45
it's a good idea go into it seems like
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the by them efficient has tried to dry
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up confidence among investors with things like
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these new ios g rules and will oppose
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all these environmental costs as before you
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can invest in the projects your thought
23:57
about the s c kind going walk into the
23:59
climate yeah in
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a building a retired built
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refineries and decade in can
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the u s worse can build new
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green which is to so unrealistic
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of course and you
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that that's that big problem that we're facing is
24:29
facing lack of resign read the city
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and s again make it more reliant
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on the board source of what if purposeful
24:36
john and with simple you
24:40
about what's going on fill obvious to
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, so many people that
24:45
purpose host is a fundamental transformation
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of america that we've been promised
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doesn't seem feel the pain a middle class or get about
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thirty seconds left what will the middle
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i'm sure they're going assure you that read
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way you know is it looks it it
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is insanity to keep going go
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along the way that we're we're going and as
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why are people need be involved
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the show up in both state needs
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constitutional conservatives to understand
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don't period candidate needs be recognized
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and need be elected we
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we need that common sense from alaska that
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you britain governor so glad to have you
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on the show today thanks for joining us
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back america during to be now as since do
29:23
it he serves as the president of us
29:25
oil and gas association and was about as near
29:27
to the same breath abby on the show
29:29
thanks for having me it's good be with you this morning it
29:31
is in is pretty remarkable the things
29:34
you're under the obama biden restoration
29:36
we saw we saw dollar ninety seven
29:38
peak think of gasoline then job way
29:40
down under donald trump by the good highest
29:42
ever got was under three dollars and was omitted
29:44
to when turned keys over now
29:46
we're back at over far as you add
29:49
five dollars historic new level how
29:51
did we follow that course and we go
29:53
from being so successful to being upside
29:55
down again
29:56
the lot of factors involved in that obviously
29:59
if you recall there is significant demand collapse
30:01
back the i in april of the
30:03
of twenty when little oil actually want
30:05
to minus thirty four dollars barrel there
30:07
is so much oil and so little capacity
30:09
we're paying people not take delivery
30:12
and that demand claps i obviously
30:14
was part of pandemic is also lead
30:16
in part by the attack from the russian
30:19
in saudi industry against us shale
30:21
industry as well and so those those
30:23
two primary factors lead to some relatively
30:26
quite affordable or gasoline prices
30:28
for american consumers are ,
30:30
claimed we climbed on the pandemic and the
30:32
shale industry survived that full on
30:34
market assault from the saudis the russians
30:37
and we found ourselves in a pretty good situation
30:39
until january twentieth or twenty
30:41
twenty one when the my administration came in
30:43
in i'm going to point fingers we were doing pretty
30:46
well as an industry and as an economy
30:48
until the my administration began his full
30:50
on frontal assault to er en
30:52
un the gas industry we knew it was coming
30:54
next day campaigned on it and
30:56
the day they came in they began to implement
30:58
their actions odd day by day and week
31:00
by week over one hundred those are different
31:03
actions i'd never met
31:05
roughly every five days eg against
31:07
industry and result is where now
31:09
reaping the where now
31:11
rewards of the as bad policies i
31:13
find fascinating that you know yet us
31:16
to the present send letter to the industry and
31:18
use threatening to invoke emergency powers
31:20
which is essentially just reverses on policy
31:22
decisions it's unbelievable
31:26
yeah i've i've never seen abbott martian thirty
31:28
years ever seen anything like that the
31:30
other is this myth of big oil we're talking
31:33
about it was secretary bernard just a little bit ago
31:35
that your these big oil companies are just
31:37
dowding people would in fact most of the front
31:39
line producer the people like panics our partners
31:42
under zone their
31:43
mid sized companies that employ lots
31:45
of americans and they need some regulatory
31:47
certainly they can just turn around and start
31:49
drilling on day's notice suck
31:51
but the dynamic also the fact that big
31:53
was a big that
31:55
that's a great point know in problem
31:57
is is is an environment like this ministry
32:00
and just paint the entire industry which is not
32:02
monolithic at all as big oil
32:04
eighty three percent of all the production
32:07
that comes in the united states comes from those independent
32:09
companies they're like farmers they
32:11
they produced the product they put it out there price
32:14
takers they take whatever the product is and
32:16
yet they also are very much subject
32:18
to the market conditions and so i
32:20
these small independent family owned
32:22
companies some of them are legacy company
32:24
has been around for three or four generations
32:27
i they've survived through different business
32:29
cycles and yet they still get up in morning
32:31
and do what they need to deal which is to produce
32:33
oil and gas for the american economy and
32:36
it's really frustrating to be honest with you
32:38
to to watch the white house which
32:40
which is demonstrated really
32:43
ignorant in terms of of their understanding
32:45
of of the of economics and the market
32:48
the way the mark energy markets work they
32:50
assume that accompanies small company
32:52
can simply turn on this big and turn it off
32:54
and and if they decide to turn off in
32:56
prices increase in gosh dang their price
32:58
gouging it's not that's not how it is it
33:01
is a as a frankly it's a colossal failure
33:03
leadership on behalf of the white house in this
33:05
administration not to foresee that
33:07
their own actions are creating the
33:10
exact situation that we're in right now it
33:13
is funding
33:14
one of the consequences of the
33:16
biden policies that we've become more reliant
33:19
again and overseas oil project from opec
33:21
countries like saudi arabia and of course there's
33:23
this argument with trying to become more environmentally
33:26
friendly but are opec nations nearly
33:28
as effective in clean to the environment
33:30
as american drilling and
33:32
absolutely not lucky and american barrel of
33:34
oil is the queensboro oil on the world
33:36
the way we the way we find it the way we extracted
33:39
the way refine at the way we we use it here
33:41
in marketplace is the cleanest in the world
33:43
every other country in that country that produces
33:46
i energy a produces while gas comes
33:48
to the united states in the us industry for
33:50
expertise how do how do they do what
33:52
we do and reality as it is
33:54
much smarter environmentally and as much
33:56
smarter economically to be producing
33:59
a barrel boil out oklahoma colorado
34:01
or nor decoder texas and it is to be
34:03
getting out of venezuela or in saudi
34:05
arabia or stickley russia and
34:08
and again as it is takes us to this
34:10
frustrating odds said situation
34:12
where for whatever reason as the white house is preparing
34:14
to go saudi arabia saudi
34:16
oil in their mind is is better than
34:18
than us soil i i don't understand that
34:21
yeah like a lot of americans are scratching just
34:23
like they couldn't understand shutting down transgender
34:25
the pipeline and then letting our vladimir
34:27
if you have one to come through your before the
34:29
war on ukraine if if
34:31
as people scratching their heads i
34:34
want to ask a little bit about new initiative
34:36
the by the administration as well as i am a
34:38
funny feeling is going have big effect on
34:40
consumers downstream the securities
34:43
and exchange commission has started what they call
34:45
the environmental social and corporate governance
34:47
wrong and going apply the oil and gas industry
34:50
our what those are and what the downstream
34:52
from progress you're going be car as consumers
34:55
when they're impose
34:56
well term put him in as close layman's
34:59
terms as we can okay it is very very
35:01
complex rule which the fcc
35:03
is trying to jam through and just matter of thirty
35:06
or sixty days we actually responded
35:08
with our comments i to the scc
35:10
yesterday we filed them about seventy
35:12
pages of comments that us on
35:14
gas association combined with western
35:16
energy lives put in our in our comments what
35:19
, is designed and the simplest terms
35:21
is to be able to require
35:24
a locally traded companies to to
35:26
monitor and record their greenhouse gas
35:28
emissions their climate footprint example
35:31
example problematic his ass is
35:33
called scope one scope to in scope three
35:35
scope wanna go to the in the publicly
35:37
traded companies can get handle on if
35:40
i'm an inner if i'm an oil gas produced can someone
35:42
get handle on what my actual production
35:44
activities the impact the impact of act
35:46
know that climate for prom with the with
35:48
, problem is when you go further further
35:50
down the value chain and that what falls into his
35:52
for falls into scope three essentially
35:54
day as i need to as and when gas producers
35:57
told you not only what my footprint is
36:00
my suppliers my vendors and
36:02
the people that work with what they're footprint
36:04
is as well and so i may have
36:07
i made made company like caliber for
36:09
example has seventy thousand different
36:11
vendors have they have to operate with
36:13
that can extend from anything from a widget maker
36:15
to a to a trucking company to a catering
36:17
company and if i don't have
36:19
the ability to reach that far down into
36:21
the the value chain to tell you what the catering
36:23
companies footprint is this servicing
36:25
my cruise on middle the west desert texas
36:28
now sonoma i'd be come under scrutiny
36:31
from the fcc which then puts me under scrutiny
36:33
from wall street that's the real problematic
36:35
thing is essentially for want of better
36:38
word it is he knows that we have concerns
36:40
rather chinese social credit system this system
36:42
this is the the white divide white house
36:44
trying to implement a carbon footprint social
36:46
credit system not only for publicly
36:48
traded companies before everybody that they work
36:50
with and it's very very problematic it
36:52
is the extends reach government far far
36:54
greater than it ever should be
36:56
when the compliance costs goes up i mean there's
36:58
no place to do but to share their downstream
37:01
to the consumer right
37:02
exactly your the cosco optics to the
37:04
consumers have to bear the costs for the other problem
37:06
also is what is sort of the the corporate
37:09
search ah reputation
37:11
what does that mean that if i can't get complete
37:14
to reporting out of my vendors
37:16
and i have to listen those vendors go for
37:18
example will you does not i'm under scrutiny
37:20
from wall street the mortal say so have
37:22
to go back in and in mesa there
37:24
buddy we work with has been too busy with compliance
37:26
the farmers we may be producing i'd
37:28
i'd you know ethanol for
37:30
out a plan may not be able to monitor
37:33
his greenhouse gas emissions and yet somehow
37:35
that biofuels refiners been have to report
37:37
on that again is very very problematic
37:39
as nor is a quagmire
37:41
going and forgot about forty five side of what
37:44
do those front line drillers need
37:47
what certainty whether they need the vitamin station
37:49
to start ramping up good old american
37:51
oil rather than relying on saudi out what
37:54
the magic solution
37:55
well frankly magic solutions honestly start
37:57
fire and some people who got us in this mess
37:59
for that you know washington for whatever
38:01
reason is the only place to settle down with
38:03
the only entity that actually rewards failure
38:05
over success and side i have lot of the
38:07
that's gonna happen but then again i
38:09
john united said is overweight get
38:11
out of our way
38:12
stop doing what you're doing you know yesterday
38:14
the senate is sector even of energy
38:17
center earnings jennifer granholm was
38:19
beaten up on industry the same time her own
38:21
agency or put out a new rules
38:23
on gas furnaces to make harder
38:25
for americans to buy gas furnaces the unless
38:27
they're completely energy efficient so
38:29
it says it's this say the problem
38:31
of putting one obstacle in and complaining about
38:33
why we're not been able to overcome that obstacle
38:35
they need get on the way they need to cut the crap improve
38:37
our permits they needed to
38:39
get back to helping us permit and move infrastructure
38:42
basically pipelines
38:44
and and an die lng persuade
38:46
get those permits approved and out the door
38:48
and the file thing that they need to do is
38:50
to go back wall street and save energy
38:53
as a long game fossil fuel energy
38:55
as a long game it is the best that we
38:57
have to place the next next fifty years
38:59
and no matter what john terry says we
39:01
need to get a smidgen there
39:04
absolutely certain that that's what we need any more
39:06
certainly aren't necessarily think i quit commercial break
39:08
when we come back one the country's premier experts
39:11
on energy senior fellow at the manhattan institute
39:13
in northwestern university faculty member mark
39:15
males will join us excellent ethnic promotion
39:40
everybody
39:44
joining us are one the country's premier experts
39:46
on energy is a senior fellow at manhattan
39:48
institute in the northwestern university
39:50
faculty fellow as well marked males
39:52
margaret the have you back the show
39:55
are we ready back john thanks are
39:57
we are looking at this extraordinary moment
39:59
bar
40:00
they were going to go overseas saudi
40:02
arabia and ask for some or oil gas
40:04
production when in the united states
40:06
where by the way oil gas is greener were
40:08
were straining or supply in
40:10
production ah we get ourselves
40:12
into this dynamic
40:16
what we know the answer it's called politics
40:18
and maybe the second answer is climate
40:21
aspirations are the
40:23
call green energy aspirations we've had
40:25
maybe twenty years what
40:28
i am on kindly called feckless policies
40:30
and the energy domain which a bit
40:33
monomer likely focused on reducing
40:35
oil and gas use by disincentivize
40:38
a invent invent unite the our investment
40:41
, space sort of this administration
40:43
has made no secret of their desire
40:46
to quote transition away from oil gas
40:49
or in fact no you
40:52
don't have to work very hard to go to the magic
40:54
google machine to look at the list
40:56
of things that have been done in last year and half
40:58
or two to accelerate the impediments
41:00
oil or gas including when gasoline
41:03
was already north of four dollars a barrel the
41:05
administration are reversed of
41:07
offshore releases in alaska the
41:09
gulf of mexico i've increased regulations
41:12
of announcing tracings of regulations in
41:15
kind of environment you don't find lot
41:17
enthusiasm for long term investments
41:19
and that's it half of what's happened
41:22
the other half is that the oil gas industry
41:24
is a supply chain industry like all other industries
41:27
and it got damaged by the a covert
41:29
lockdowns and recovering the labor
41:31
force recovering the infrastructure
41:34
not easy especially as against headwinds
41:36
so that should be no surprise
41:39
that supply is not catching up
41:41
with the man prices go up add
41:43
to that the ukraine invasion now
41:45
the shock to the system and actresses
41:47
like an accelerant it's to use the old
41:50
expression is like shocking seals
41:52
on fucker yeah absolutely
41:55
though his weight is clear the by the
41:57
message of wants to move people away from
42:00
a gap in oil now coal living
42:02
but be either nirvana other
42:04
everybody gets an electric car they plug it
42:06
in at night we
42:08
are be infrastructure for that we anywhere close
42:10
to having the infrastructure for that
42:12
that's easy answer to to
42:14
letter word know a
42:16
, we can't begin to build the
42:18
infrastructure the scales needed fast
42:21
enough not just to alleviate
42:24
alleviate gasoline prices right now in the
42:26
immediate future but for the next the
42:29
is very simplistically if we if
42:32
we shift transportation from up
42:34
of hydrocarbons oil nine
42:36
seven percent of all transportation's oil fired
42:39
to shift that to the electric sector
42:41
you roughly half the double the electric sectors
42:43
infrastructure sectors were barely
42:46
able to keep up with reliable actress it is supplied
42:48
now because of the mandates for
42:50
wind mandates solar if you the
42:52
double the challenge or in
42:54
this short time vladimir decade
42:57
of you just it's just not it's
42:59
not practical is never mind aspirations
43:01
i'm up in , rating
43:03
of people's parades say something sharp
43:05
practical side you're hoping
43:08
bridge of get dealt when you're driving towards driving
43:11
and the out maybe you wanna get
43:13
there tomorrow but the bridge takes two years to
43:15
build the kind time frames talking
43:17
about in renewable energy world as the bridges
43:19
that people on adult minerals
43:22
and electric grid and for refining
43:24
infrastructures for those minerals to make green
43:26
machines and batteries those time
43:28
frames are decades not years or
43:30
months it's , fifty years
43:33
to build the global oil gas
43:35
infrastructure to size of has
43:37
to support massive world economy still
43:39
take that long to expand the other infrastructures
43:42
to join oil and gas not to
43:44
replace it that's that's the bottom
43:46
line we're going to need both in bigger
43:48
world resort area about thirty
43:50
seconds of natural gas could cut carbon
43:52
emissions now and still keep up on
43:54
up fire that's already
43:57
has america has the world's
43:59
greatest mouse will go the reserves has
44:01
a displays cause pure economic
44:03
basis germany there now foreign that
44:05
coal plants because they didn't
44:07
take our offer to ship them gas
44:10
years ago and now they're gonna
44:12
take the offer but it'll take years to reverse
44:14
it and remarkable bad decision
44:16
the bad bad decisions marred know one thing we
44:18
always good for you good advice thank
44:20
you so much for joining us and give us of these inside
44:23
thank you thank you sir all right folks who going
44:25
to take a quick fragrant me come back senior vice president
44:28
panic gabor will be joining us as
44:30
always a fun conversation he knows
44:32
what the really liked the front lines of
44:34
the energy industry will have that
45:00
no
45:05
one of my great friend an excellent
45:07
extra when comes to explaining how did
45:09
we get to this point in the energy crisis
45:11
joining us right now is jay burrow
45:13
senior vice president of tennis oil and gas
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yeah no problem
45:22
you don't eat are at night
45:24
yeah i'm doing fine or is on
45:26
sundays we can do in an era of five hour
45:28
guess i want ask you about i can begin lot
45:31
of different expectations for
45:33
the bread the bursting with president trump saw
45:35
joe biden said that said it was the
45:37
big oil gas companies are now is
45:39
vladimir beautiful
45:41
a t v out of the real problem is that
45:43
since he took office he has restrained
45:45
or the supply while demand for
45:47
oil gas is gonna is it anything
45:49
more complicated than that
45:52
no i just basic economics
45:54
or supply demand when when demand
45:57
exceeds supply prices going go
45:59
and
46:00
when president biden came office we were
46:02
coming out of pandemic everybody started
46:04
wake up and work again the
46:07
same time we start restricting production
46:09
well mean that's
46:11
pretty simple calculation about point
46:13
that when you're when you're consuming more
46:15
than you produce and you're not investing enough to produce
46:17
more it's
46:19
pretty clear picture what's gonna happen with prices and
46:21
that's always a way out over last year
46:23
so yeah it's really remarkable
46:25
the watch with him and also for the media nothing
46:28
really accurate story about what's going on
46:30
ah the president wants to go to countries
46:32
like saudi arabia
46:34
opec countries when is all this abundance
46:37
of oil and gas year when you see them someone
46:39
industry who know they can solve this
46:41
problem if government would get the way would
46:43
you say it's
46:46
use it brings you back the as we discussed
46:48
before you'd never really want to questions about
46:50
his motives that makes you wonder what
46:52
they're trying to do because are historically
46:54
if you have a population that has a certain
46:57
there are certain way they live their life and you
46:59
want change that what
47:01
you make it more difficult you make it painful
47:03
to continue what they've been doing so they
47:05
choose an alternate that that
47:07
she's mean you don't have to just
47:09
listen to what they've been sacked whether
47:11
it's the energy secretary weather's
47:13
president biden pretty
47:15
much anyone on this is a were in the
47:17
middle of transition and until you gonna
47:19
go and on what bar when little
47:21
this transition the dot inaudibly
47:23
many people voted for this and so
47:26
then you start looking at why they're doing because it just
47:28
really doesn't make any sense look
47:30
what look at what europe is going through right
47:32
now the fear of being
47:35
basically the
47:37
vanderbilt the controls their energy
47:40
the decides cut him off their in trouble in
47:43
an attic the exact same bag on bang
47:45
the bondsman right now in
47:47
other countries to produce or or so
47:50
it just doesn't make sense that makes america really
47:53
this is in a position of weakness on world
47:55
stage and man i target
47:57
american look weak i
47:59
think most
48:00
and are they have that same feeling that you have
48:02
an uneasy fit in their stomach or
48:04
this transition they're obviously what they're talking
48:06
about that a transition to an electric
48:09
future i want ask you a someone
48:11
it's in the energy business is the grid ready
48:13
for that the we have the batteries who we have
48:15
the charging capability and if we don't
48:17
run the wrong costs are transition you
48:19
have a better solution to a lower carbon
48:22
our future that doesn't involve a rush
48:24
the electricity what that right
48:27
yeah and the army john a huge if you look at it
48:29
i don't believe there's one neighborhood
48:31
america their electric
48:34
grid is ready to handle every zoc of every
48:36
car charging every night the it would
48:38
break it would crash the grits so
48:40
when you look at the alternatives and
48:42
and that's the be some zero game they
48:45
it is if you're against alternatives
48:47
you want pollute the environment when nothing could be
48:49
further from the true that most
48:51
people that are for oil and gas
48:54
want use was utilized in a plane manner
48:56
want utilize it in way that does it
48:59
harm you're not you look at the united
49:01
states you look at the you'll
49:03
get our natural resources that we're
49:06
we already have more natural gas than anymore
49:08
now the infrastructure incomplete but the natural
49:11
gas infrastructure the
49:14
well so much further back than our electric
49:16
infrastructure right would take few
49:18
modifications the mess we can move straight
49:20
a natural gas and eliminate all this and
49:22
would still be burning the cleanest fuel out
49:24
there other the neutral now
49:27
one day something is
49:29
gonna come along the trumps all
49:31
of this the and will move out your carbon from
49:33
picture when it comes to energy production
49:36
but when you think about it a forty two gallon
49:38
drum of oil nightingale
49:40
and gas that's
49:43
less than fifty percent
49:44
the rest of go to other products whether be jet
49:47
fuel whether be cheating or whether be
49:49
synthetics whether be chemicals weather at
49:51
so you have literally we're dealing with
49:53
less than fifty percent of what oil is useful
49:56
so when you look at the natural
49:58
gas option that's
50:00
the only option that makes sense you
50:02
could convert every corn american run on
50:04
natural gas run i run a pipeline
50:06
to each arm at we run ourselves on it
50:08
though it's been done we know how do
50:10
it that were choosing not to a
50:12
just that it makes you question motives
50:15
biggest head scratcher most american favourite
50:18
now as now as make sense
50:19
i want to ask about the the
50:21
different ways of the binding illustration has
50:23
suffocated supply trans canada
50:25
pipeline we know about we know about the ending
50:28
of drilling releases and closing off areas
50:30
and alaskan other places that we can't
50:32
drill there's new one that seems to be
50:34
raising a lot of concerning this is it from
50:36
the scc these new e s g
50:38
roles that sort of take awoke ideology
50:41
and put them into the financial marketplace
50:43
how can that be how is that affecting the industry
50:46
oh what it it has people
50:48
scared death if you
50:50
take company like that we
50:52
don't want our programs through batch
50:54
we don't want our programs do institutions weep
50:56
on our programs one partner to
50:58
time
50:59
the really doesn't affect company like like
51:01
mine because we don't get our money from the banks however
51:04
you look the shale and lot
51:06
about work was finance from the banks what
51:08
your own oil and gas company then
51:11
you need a dollar to drill a well and the bank
51:13
is the company that is getting you that dollar and
51:16
all sudden they decide not give it to you you're
51:18
trouble especially if you don't have enough
51:20
production the cover that dot special
51:23
war again gas gas the america
51:25
special dependent war on oil gas
51:27
dependent war energy energy the
51:30
the you put restrictions on what money
51:32
they can eat generator the
51:34
older company that's all this may
51:36
have start doing different things so
51:39
when you look at the y not
51:41
really can't speak for anybody else i'd be for us
51:44
we look at the american oil industry in
51:46
our thought process the really hadn't
51:48
been a major oil and gas
51:51
company america built
51:53
on american production the
51:55
close to forty years amazing
51:57
and so that really goes back that puts us
51:59
the in a witness we're speaking about minute
52:01
ago so why not
52:03
why not try to have an american
52:05
only company consolidate as much
52:08
oil as they can we
52:10
can reduce the pressure on the american people in
52:13
the that's really gonna what we're veering towards the
52:15
back somebody's gonna do that
52:17
might as well be a group of people that love american want the
52:19
best course of it would be so much better
52:21
though it is the right way to go we had about a middle
52:24
of them when asked what integrating him panic you
52:26
have a plan to try to turn this around
52:28
or how do ever you're an american ulysses
52:31
alice i want help i want to make this happen
52:33
politically economically what's the best
52:35
way to dive in and try to get this change
52:37
we get back the better a better energy
52:39
opposition in america
52:41
well step number one eight
52:45
years understand
52:47
it
52:48
their goal was to make it so confusing
52:50
that you don't want to engage and
52:52
it's not countries one plus one equals
52:55
to there's a when you go in and you
52:57
look at a barrel of oil and everything
52:59
that has created from a barrel or and
53:01
you look at natural gas and everything that can
53:03
be accomplished with natural gas or new
53:05
killer and then you look at the the battery
53:07
power the solar power the wind power the water
53:10
the understand the full scope of what
53:12
they're wanting us to do and
53:14
then you can speak intelligently about
53:16
it to everybody else all it starts
53:18
as one conversation between neighbors and
53:21
that snowball starts rolling and
53:23
you know the picture this on the screen right now who
53:25
wants to look out on the horizon and see
53:28
windmills covering the rise i
53:30
drive into florida here couple of months ago
53:33
and i made my kids take pictures up because
53:35
i was told he overhears were dot all
53:37
and gas it's it's horrible it's scar on
53:39
their on the horizon you see those contracts
53:42
and all a sudden we look over in there's field
53:45
solar panels nothing
53:47
but weaves growing up between him and i'm talking
53:50
probably thirty eight years worth solar
53:52
pets while you know i'm i'm driving
53:54
to pennsylvania with my son to play baseball there
53:56
is certain spot when cross from maryland
53:58
and go on through then you come into pennsylvania
54:01
if there's a beautiful pristine countries
54:03
audio line you look and then all
54:05
the senate the top using nothing but when
54:08
mills across the top of and
54:10
so it's like hang on who's really destroying
54:13
the environment and and so you gotta ask yourself
54:16
when do you start calling it yeah
54:18
when do you start looking at them and saying
54:20
hang on this doesn't make sense
54:22
and you're hurting people by doing yeah
54:25
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54:27
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