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Welcome to the Journey of the Draft podcast presented

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position preview series continues here

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on the Journey to the Draft Podcast. Because we've got the

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NFL Draft just about a month away, let's talk

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about these quarterbacks. So we're gonna do that here with Draft Buzz

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Dane Brugler a little bit of an abbreviated episode this

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week, just Dane and I for Draft Buzz. We're gonna

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go into this quarterback class. We're talking about all

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the guys at the top, so you're Bryce Young's and CJ.

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Strouds and Anthony richardson will leve Us,

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but then also all the guys in the back end

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of this class. Who's the most accurate, who's got

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the best touch, who's got the best arm, who's the

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best creator. We'll go through all of our different superlatives,

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talk about all these guys and where they could end

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up going here in this draft that is just

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a month away, obviously for our Eagles fans, listeners,

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it's not you're not anticipating Eagles adding a quarterback

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and this is necessarily in this draft, but obviously

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where these guys end up could be very very

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important, especially with the Eagles having that tenth

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Now it's time for Draft.

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Buzz, all

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right, time out to dive into these quarterbacks with Dane

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Brugler. As we get going here for Draft Buzz and

2:04

Dane, every week we talked through a position.

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Obviously, this week we're going to talk through one of the more highly

2:08

debated positions, especially in this draft

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class. Four guys, the top five guys potentially

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in Round one, and over the last ten years,

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the average number of quarterbacks drafted every

2:18

single spring is eleven point two.

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It's been I think eleven on the nose over the last

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five years. Last year it was just nine. It was a

2:24

down year in twenty twenty two, as we know, just

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ten the year before. So, Dan, as

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we sit here now in March twenty seventh, about

2:31

about a month away from draft day, what

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do you think over under eleven point two?

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You know, I thought I was going to take the under just

2:39

we so many bone nicks, and we

2:42

had so many quarterbacks go back to school with nil

2:44

and everything like that that this quarterback

2:46

class I thought really got diluted. But

2:50

I just think that there's going to be more

2:52

teams willing to throw a dart with these

2:54

quarterbacks, because when you look at the

2:57

quarterback contracts out there, teams

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want to get younger, and you know it's

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if we're talking about six seventh round pick, they're

3:04

more willing to maybe use that on a passer.

3:07

So I'll say this year it's twelve,

3:09

maybe thirteen quarterbacks drafted, so

3:11

I'll say slightly over.

3:12

I always find it interesting just kind of looking at the QB

3:14

market in the draft, because you know, it's really one

3:17

of two things, right, you're either a franchise

3:19

guy or you're not. Right, Like,

3:22

it's the value of like a quote

3:25

unquote backup quarterback, Like, what does

3:27

that mean in terms of where a guy gets drafted? That's

3:29

what does a guy go in a third round, fourth

3:31

round? If you knew for sure this guy was gonna

3:33

be a really good number two, that'd

3:35

be one thing. But that's hard to

3:37

predetermine. And so that's why you often see like all right, you're

3:40

gonna got a bunch of guys up in round one. Maybe

3:42

a guy falls into Day two, and then you don't see

3:44

anybody until the

3:46

the midway point of day three into the latter

3:48

stages of day three. I do think

3:50

in this class, I think there is the depth there that I

3:52

do think that you will probably hit the over. But

3:55

if we do, it'll be just there. It'll be at twelve.

3:57

I don't envision too many more past

3:59

that, but it's definitely a pretty good class.

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I think over we're going to dive into here with

4:04

some of these superlatives, and we'll start off with

4:06

a trait that I think most would say is the most

4:08

important on field characteristic four quarterback,

4:11

and that's the accuracy. Who is the most accurate,

4:13

Who shows the best ball placement when they've got

4:15

to drive the football. We're going to talk about touch in the

4:17

next category, but when they've got to put any kind of

4:19

zip on a throw, who shows the

4:21

best most consistent ball placement throw

4:24

after throw. You've got the honors here to start

4:26

with a Day one or Day two guy.

4:29

I think that brace Young has a strong case

4:31

here, but I'm

4:33

going to lean stroud CJ.

4:36

Stroud, I think he really puts a premium

4:38

on accuracy and the ability to

4:40

throw away from defenders,

4:43

and it's not this elementary. Just

4:45

look at his touchdown interception ratio in college.

4:48

It's eighty five to twelve. I

4:50

think that really sums up his ability to

4:52

put the ball where he wants. And part of

4:54

that is touch and we'll talk about that in

4:56

the next category. But I think just

4:58

a general understanding of accuracy

5:01

and just being it's natural

5:04

for him. It's it's not hard

5:06

for him to be accurate to put the ball where

5:08

he wants.

5:10

Talking to.

5:12

An opposing head coach that he Ohio

5:14

State played this year and I asked him

5:16

his thoughts on c J. Stroud, he says, the most accurate

5:18

quarterback he's ever ever faced. So

5:22

I do think Bryce s Young is a good case

5:24

here.

5:24

But Marline Stroud, Yeah, and I don't

5:26

blame you. I think when you look at CJ. Stroud, I mean that's one of the

5:29

strengths of his game, right, is his ability to

5:31

consistently put the ball where he wants to.

5:34

That that has stood out in workouts,

5:36

that stands out on film, as you see a

5:38

guy that consistently is able to put the ball wherever

5:40

he wants. So I don't blame you whatsoever

5:43

for going in that direction. For me, I'll take

5:45

a Day three guy, and I think

5:47

I'm gonna go here with Jay Cayner from Fresno

5:49

State. He's undersized for sure. You know people

5:51

talk about this with Bryce Young, but you know, Jay

5:53

Cayner under two hundred and ten pounds and played right around

5:55

the two hundred mark, which is still extremely light

5:57

at the position, under six feet tall, so

6:00

he is a very small quarterback.

6:02

But this is a guy where the accuracy and the ball placement

6:05

is evident right away as soon as you watch

6:07

on film. You know it's always

6:09

exactly where it needs to be, especially in the

6:11

intermediate area and in the quick game.

6:14

Certainly the deep ball accuracy is there as well.

6:16

But the way that he is able to feather throws

6:18

in and it's this has been the case

6:20

going back. I mean I've studied him going back twenty

6:23

twenty and his numbers are always really,

6:25

really good. And honestly, you can even look at the metrics,

6:27

even if you don't watch a down of Jay Cayner, a

6:30

lot of people will point to adjusted completion percentage

6:32

of metric from PFF where it kind

6:34

of factors out drops, throwaways and

6:36

spikes and just says, Okay, what is the guy's completion

6:39

percentage? How often did he put it on the receiver?

6:41

Jake Canner is this past season eighty three

6:43

point one completion percentage? That is

6:45

like above the ninetieth percentile of quarterbacks

6:48

drafted in the last ten years that you're talking

6:50

like, Patrick Mahomes was right around

6:52

that number, Joe Burrow right around that number.

6:55

Baker Mayfield coming out of Oklahoma right around

6:57

that number. So you know a lot of guys that went

6:59

high in the dre aft that it turned into good, good

7:01

starting quarterbacks. You know, I think when you

7:03

look at Jake Haynter, that is a thing that he

7:05

is going to be able to hang his hat on. Now, there are

7:07

other weaknesses to his game that would keep you

7:09

from saying, you know, that's going to keep him from being that level,

7:11

right, But I think that's one of the things you and I both

7:13

really like, because I know you like Hater as well. One

7:16

of the things you and I both like about his game that

7:18

consistency with his accuracy and ball placement.

7:21

No question, it's the ability to put

7:24

the ball away from the leverage of the defender

7:27

and give his receivers a chance to go make

7:29

a play.

7:30

It's very natural for him.

7:31

It's not You can tell with some quarterbacks

7:33

that it's not natural, and they

7:36

get better at it with repetition. But

7:38

with a guy like this, with

7:40

with Heineke, I really

7:43

Hayeter, excuse me, sorry my

7:45

comparison for this too.

7:48

Yeah, I think it's just very natural

7:50

for him. And I think that's for our quarterback especially.

7:53

You know, a guy that is undersized

7:56

and like you said, has some weak areas

7:59

to his game. For him to have the accuracy

8:01

that he does, that's why we're talking about him as

8:03

a potential mid round pick.

8:05

All right, Well, since we're talking about accuracy, let's just

8:07

transition into touch and where you know, whether

8:09

it's that deep ball accuracy, the

8:11

layering throws of the intermediary, you know, over

8:14

the linebacker, under the safety, or you're

8:16

just not throwing one hundred mile pour fastballs in

8:18

the screen game or underneath just showing that

8:20

consistent touch as a passer

8:23

for a Day one or Day two player. The guy I wrote down

8:25

with CJ. Stroud and there are a few throws

8:27

that stood out to me, Dane, you might remember

8:29

the exact game. I want to say it was Iowa,

8:32

but I'm not one hundred percent sure it was an opposite hash.

8:34

It was like a deep corner route along the

8:36

sideline on the film, it

8:38

was going from our right to the left, so going

8:40

screen left, and he made an

8:43

unbelievable bucket throw on a corner route

8:45

to the field to the wide side of the field along

8:48

the sideline where only his receiver could

8:50

get it. And those are the kind of throws, like I want

8:52

to say, he makes them every game, but he makes throws

8:54

like that so so consistently, and he makes

8:56

them look easy. It's just a very natural

8:58

touch passer. Everything Undernath is really

9:00

really good in that area as well. The deep ball

9:02

accuracy really strong. So I think when you look at

9:05

c. J. Stroud, his touch is

9:07

one of my favorite things about this game, maybe the number one thing

9:09

I love about his game because his accuracy is absolutely

9:11

there. But I would say his touch is like a

9:14

special quality to the way that he plays.

9:17

Yeah, I think that's fair.

9:18

His ability to layer those throws at

9:21

every level of the field, it's very natural

9:23

for him, it's very it's very it's his comfort

9:25

level, that's where he really thrives.

9:27

So no, I think that makes a lot of sense for me.

9:29

I'm gonna go with for a Day three option for

9:31

touch, I'm gonna go Aiden O'Connell from Purdue.

9:34

I think he just has a really natural feel

9:36

for it. He anticipates windows really

9:38

well, so he can lead receivers and touch

9:40

up those passes, so he creates

9:43

easier catch opportunities if

9:45

he can move better, I think we'd be talking about O'Connell

9:47

as you know, a real NFL

9:50

starting caliber prospect

9:52

and a player of being drafted.

9:53

In the first, you know, two rounds or

9:55

so.

9:56

But I think he has those passing skills,

9:58

the downfield touch it that's a

10:00

big part of that.

10:01

Yeah. I think when you talked about the ability to make

10:03

some of those second window throws, I thought his anticipation

10:06

certainly showed up in a lot of those areas, and that ability

10:08

to get that ball over the corner, underneath the safety,

10:11

along the sideline. He made some nice turkey hill throws

10:13

outside the numbers, you know, I think that's where

10:15

that touch can really show up. Let's go to the next one

10:17

here, best arm strength and so you know, we

10:19

people talk about arm talent, I always kind

10:21

of include accuracy in with arm talents. That's

10:23

why I'm labeling this as arm strength. Who

10:25

has the ability to make every throw from

10:27

like a velocity and at a distant standpoint.

10:30

So we were talking purely the strength of the

10:32

quarterback's arm. I will let you go Day one, Day

10:34

two.

10:37

I think Will Levis has a case here. He

10:39

definitely qualifies for this category. But

10:41

it's Anthie Richardson. There's no question his arm

10:44

strength is is elite, and I don't I don't

10:46

throw around the word elite. You know, on

10:48

a whim, he both velocity and distance

10:50

his arm. It's easy for him.

10:52

It's unforced velocity. The drive

10:55

throws are are very very

10:57

natural for him. The ball gets on receivers

10:59

fast. You know this this

11:01

sounds hyperbolic, but imagine any

11:04

throw you've ever seen on a football field. Richardson

11:06

can make that. Now, it might not be accurate,

11:09

it might not be on time, but he has the

11:11

arm power to at least a tempt to throw.

11:13

It's a special, special arm. When you're talking about

11:16

strictly arm strength.

11:17

That's like going back and just kind of rewatching

11:20

a couple of games just getting ready for this podcast.

11:22

You know, I turned to somebody next to me and I was like, man, like, there

11:24

just aren't a lot of people like ever that can do

11:26

some of the things he can do physically. Now, you

11:29

know, he'll spray the ball whole whole air mail at every

11:31

once in a while, orright, he's gonna he's gonna put it six feet over

11:33

a guy's head at times. But man, he

11:36

has got such a whip for an arm. He

11:38

is. He that makes some fun to watch, but obviously

11:40

a lot of that's got to be able to get reined in moving

11:42

on to the NFL. For me, I kind

11:44

of struggle with this with the Day three players, Dame, I

11:46

didn't look at it. Usually we have kind of like

11:49

your uh, you know, sturdy pocket

11:51

passer who's got like a really strong arm in the in

11:53

the when we get to Day three of the draft, in

11:55

this group, I don't think there is that guy. So

11:58

I settled in on Dorian Thompson Robinson from U

12:00

C.

12:00

L A.

12:01

I don't necessarily think he's got like a strong I don't

12:03

look at him saying like, oh man, this guy's got a really strong

12:05

arm. But I think with the guys available

12:08

here. You know, in this group, I'm gonna

12:10

settle in with dtr We just

12:12

talk about him as a player real quick, obviously very he's

12:14

a really athletic player, five year starter there

12:16

for in Chip Kelly's offense with the Bruins,

12:19

He's got the ability to create. He can be a factor with

12:21

his legs. I think the accuracy has

12:23

gotten better, the touch has gotten a little bit

12:25

better over the course of his career, because I've been studying

12:27

him now for you know, three four years, and he's

12:29

gotten better every step of the way. I do

12:32

think that there are still strides he needs to make, But

12:34

I think when you look at his physical talent, there's still

12:36

something there for you to say, Okay, like this guy can

12:38

be something in the NFL. I just think a little bit of patience

12:40

and seasoning is definitely gonna be needed.

12:44

Yeah, and I should

12:46

be talking about Dorian Thompson Robbinson here in another

12:49

category here.

12:49

Okay, all right, well let's I'll

12:51

let you continue that. Well, let's go to a best creator.

12:54

So who's got the ability to make plays

12:56

both as a runner and as a passer

12:58

when things break down, That ability

13:00

to create some of those second reaction plays

13:02

who can create them on his own

13:04

when the defense wins early in the down. And

13:07

for me, this one was easy. Man. Bryce Young,

13:09

he is, He's a magician. He is everything.

13:12

You've made the comparison to Steph Curry.

13:13

Uh.

13:14

You know, Greg Cosel has made that same comparison.

13:16

A guy that can create on his

13:18

own. He played. You know you talk about like vision

13:20

and spatial awareness for athletes, Bryce

13:23

Young is like exponentially just like he

13:25

is such a unique trait of his is

13:27

his ability to see the entire field understand

13:30

it. You know, he's got eyes behind his head. You know, you throw

13:32

all the analogies you want, all the scouting terms

13:34

out you want with Bryce Young. His special

13:37

quality is his ability to to just

13:39

kind of operate outside of structure,

13:41

and he does it with instructure at a very high level as

13:43

well. But if he has to create as

13:45

a passer especially, this guy

13:47

is as good as anybody in this class. Probably I would say

13:49

better than anybody in this class.

13:52

It's a super superpower. You know.

13:54

I think if you're going to be a high level starter in

13:56

this league, you need a superpower. And

13:59

you know we see that with the

14:01

guys that are currently at the top of the

14:04

league at quarterback. Whether it's Joe

14:06

Burrow or Patrick Mahomes, they each have their

14:08

own superpower. For Bryce Young, the reason why

14:10

he's going to be a top three pick in this draft

14:13

for being such a small player

14:15

and outlier size wise, his

14:17

superpower is the ability to creates that point

14:20

guard mentality. You

14:22

know, all the reasons that you just said, So I think you

14:24

know it's it's a natural for this category,

14:26

and you know, makes a lot of sense for me. This

14:28

is where I put Dorian Thompson Robinson for a Day three

14:31

option for best creator. I

14:33

think, you know, Jake Hayner has a case here.

14:35

He does a little bit of that Jared Hall from BYU.

14:39

You know, same thing, but with Thompson

14:41

Robinson, he was.

14:42

One of only two FBS quarterbacks

14:45

this year with at least twenty five

14:47

passing touchdowns and eleven rushing touchdowns.

14:50

So you know, he's just got a really good feel for when

14:52

to keep passing plays alive when it take off

14:54

and uses legs. I think he has run

14:56

skill. He's not just a you know,

14:58

an athlete, you know, just kind of being crazed

15:00

out there. He has elusive qualities

15:03

in the open field. I think he's a true dual

15:05

threat guy.

15:07

Yeah, I mean he's I mentioned earlier. I think that

15:09

he's got the tools. I think they're trying to develop into

15:11

something moving forward into the NFL. Let's go

15:13

to the next category here, best running threat. And

15:15

this is different than creator to me, this is who

15:17

is the most most lethal with their legs

15:20

purely as a runner. So you're talking whether it's as

15:22

a scrambler or in the design run game, the RPO

15:24

game, all those different factors. So you know,

15:26

for me, this is Anthony Richardson. And you know,

15:28

you go back to in twenty twenty one

15:31

when he was a backup to Emery

15:33

Jones, and you watched like the eighty yard touchdown

15:36

against LSU where he's running he pulled

15:38

up lame at the end of it, right, but the

15:40

fact that he still ran away from everybody on

15:42

defense with a pulled

15:44

hamstering on the back end of it. We saw

15:47

the combine the freakish athleticism. But this

15:49

guy with his legs, he's as dangerous as

15:51

anybody in the class, you know, outside of like

15:53

b Jon Robinson. He is that that kind

15:55

of lethal athlete with the ball in his hands.

15:58

No, there's no doubt we have not seen a

16:01

guy like this, uh in terms of the

16:03

just the physical skill and his ability

16:05

to run is a big part of that.

16:07

So it's gonna be really exciting to see

16:10

where he goes in the draft.

16:11

You know, which offense?

16:12

How does the offensive coordinator

16:15

uh kind of change the offense to fit

16:17

his his talent because you don't want him

16:20

just stationary in the pocket.

16:21

Uh.

16:22

Now I think he can do that at times, but

16:24

you want him you want to be able to use that

16:26

uh, that ability to use his legs and so

16:29

and with a guy with his frame, you know he can

16:31

he can take a little bit of punishment as well. So it's not

16:33

like you're trying to uh, you don't have you

16:35

don't have to put a premium on protecting him

16:38

and not utilizing his legs. So you

16:41

know, I think that Yeah, with Richardson, Uh,

16:43

the speed and that athletics is a big part

16:45

of what he does. Uh for for me for

16:48

a Day three option, you

16:50

know Max Doug and I think is a little bit of that.

16:52

His running is what made uh made him

16:54

a Heisman finalist, what helped TCU get the national

16:56

title game. But I'm gonna go with Millie Cunningham

16:59

from Louisville. Really dangerous

17:01

athlete. And it's not just that he's fast.

17:04

I think he has run instincts,

17:06

shifty footwork. I don't know that

17:08

he's gonna be drafted just because his passing

17:11

isn't on an NFL level, But the

17:13

tape shows playmaking potential. And

17:15

so now it's all to you know, the NFL teams

17:17

to figure out, Okay, how can we use this?

17:19

Is it changing positions? Is it?

17:23

You know, just are we creating have

17:25

creative play calls within our

17:27

offense to to utilize this? I mean, someone

17:30

has to figure it out because tape shows a playmaker.

17:33

Let's go to our next category here, fastest

17:35

processor, And the processing is

17:37

always a kind of an umbrella catch all term,

17:40

so real quickly, just got a guy that gets

17:42

through his reads and his progression is the fastest who displays

17:44

the best anticipation, you know, who's

17:46

got the best ability to kind of read a defense and understand

17:49

where the football is going to go on any given

17:51

play. Again, it's gonna be a catch all term,

17:53

But who's the guy that's got the fastest processor?

17:55

If you're looking day one day two.

17:58

This is another category that came down to Stroud

18:01

or Bryce Young. This time I'm

18:03

leaning Young. He's just such

18:05

a quick minded player, processes

18:07

everything around him extremely

18:09

well.

18:10

His vision might be his best quality.

18:12

I mean this kind of bleeds over into

18:14

what you were talking about with most

18:17

creative. You know, he's got that point

18:19

guard mentality, so he can create space,

18:22

process everything around him, and find the outlets.

18:24

So you know a lot of what you said.

18:26

And most creative fits here for fastest processor

18:28

because while he is using his legs

18:30

and you know, reading the field, he's doing

18:33

everything in a very controlled,

18:35

efficient manner.

18:36

And so I think C. J.

18:38

Stroud fits for this as well because of his both

18:40

pre and post snap. I mean, he understands what

18:43

the defense is trying to do. Where where

18:46

am I reads? Where's the vulnerable spot in the defense

18:48

going to be? He has a really good feel

18:50

for that. But I'm gonna lead Bryce Young for

18:52

mine.

18:53

I you to that last point where you said it's

18:55

both pre end post snap, because remember Bryce Young also

18:58

a lot of authority pre snap. That offense

19:00

and an NFL verbiage offense,

19:02

by the way, under Bill O'Brien the last two years of setting

19:05

protections and resetting protections without

19:07

help from the sideline, and not all quarterbacks

19:09

can say that, So I think that would give me the edge

19:12

there for Bryce Young as well for me getting

19:14

to Day three, I struggled with this one a little

19:16

bit too, but I ended up going with Tanner McKee from

19:18

Stanford. I think when you look at

19:20

his understanding of that offense again another kind

19:22

of a pro ish style pass game, his

19:25

ability to kind of get through his progressions. He's got probably

19:27

one of the better anticipators in that

19:30

part of the draft as well. When you get into the ability to make

19:32

some of those second second window throws in

19:34

the middle of the field, I think he certainly

19:37

is he trusts his ability to

19:39

make some of those throws. If he had a slightly better

19:41

arm I think that we'd probably be talking about Tanner McKey

19:44

more securely in like the latter

19:46

stages of Day two, the middle of day

19:48

two. But I think that just the fact that he's

19:50

not like this supreme talent athleticism

19:52

is he's gonna below the bar there

19:54

in that category. And I think Armtown overall

19:56

you would say the same thing. But his ability to kind

19:58

of get through his reads, throw, anticipation, those

20:01

are all there. He's got pretty good poise in the pocket as

20:03

well. So for me, I went Tanner McKee

20:05

as my my fastest process around day

20:07

three.

20:09

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

20:10

You know, if he ends up starting games in the NFL,

20:13

I don't think it'll be a surprise because of that

20:15

ability.

20:16

I don't think, uh, you

20:18

know.

20:18

His limitations as an athlete, I think will

20:21

really hurt him. You know, it's kind of the Mike Glennon,

20:23

that's my comparison for him. I

20:25

think that'll hurt him. But his

20:28

ability to work through reads and be accurate,

20:30

especially over the middle of the field, he might

20:32

end up starting some games in the NFL because of that.

20:34

All right, let's get to a couple of player comps here.

20:37

Who's your who's your favorite player comp from this quarterback class.

20:39

I always struggle with quarterback comparisons.

20:41

I feel like more and more so in other positions.

20:45

I agree, and these aren't.

20:47

It's hard to find real true apples apples

20:49

comparisons.

20:50

I'm going with.

20:53

I do think, you know, Jake Haynard,

20:56

Taylor Heineke might be my favorite, but I'm gonna

20:58

go with Will. Let this to

21:01

Carson Wentz and look, you

21:03

take the good and the bad with his calm. Both

21:05

have desirable traits when you break down their size,

21:08

their arm strength, mobility,

21:10

the intelligence, the toughness. They

21:13

have a lot of tools we're developing. But the game

21:15

also moves just a little too fast for them

21:17

at times and they struggle to slow

21:20

it down, which could really be their

21:22

undoing, and we saw that. We've seen that with

21:24

Carson Wentz. We've seen

21:26

that at times will leve us at the college

21:28

level. But at the same time, they have

21:31

traits that are enticing. It's why Carson Wentz

21:33

had three different teams have rolled the dice and

21:36

thought, Okay, Wentz can be our starter.

21:38

He could be the guy.

21:39

And that's why Levis is going to go in the first round

21:41

for a team betting on his potential

21:44

that he's gonna be able to slow things down with

21:46

a little bit more coaching. And so it's

21:49

not a perfect comp but I do think that they're

21:51

parallels there.

21:52

I could see. I could see that from a number

21:55

of different areas. I think when you look at the overall

21:57

pocket presence, especially you know some of those sacks

21:59

that Levis took, you know they definitely feel

22:01

akin to what we've seen over the last couple of years, especially

22:04

from Carson Wentz. For me, going to Day three,

22:07

Taylor Heineke and Tyson Bagent. You

22:09

know, from Sheppard a guy that you wrote a great

22:11

piece about back in January. But I think when

22:13

you look at Tyson Bagent, you know, a little

22:15

bit of an undersize, kind of a scrappy competitor

22:18

type. The overall arm talent

22:20

is not going to completely blow you away. But

22:22

I think when you look at Paigent and some of the playmaking ability

22:25

that he's shown, certainly that he's been extremely

22:27

productive, you know, at that level playing

22:29

for the Rams. I don't know if you're surprised, but

22:31

I knew that the mascot there for Sheppard.

22:34

But I think when you look at at Tyson Bagent,

22:36

I think there's there's plenty there to work

22:38

with in terms of trying to be a developmental

22:40

backup quarterback. But again, he's

22:43

he's another guy that's just going to require a little bit

22:45

of time and patience. It's kind of adjusting to

22:47

the speed of the game. But yeah, I think there's

22:49

plenty on film to like there and the com of like

22:51

the gamesmanship qualities with Baigent.

22:53

I think that's kind of what has helped Taylor Heineke

22:56

kind of a stick in the NFL. Is some of some of those

22:58

same qualities. Yeah,

23:00

no doubt.

23:01

Beage's well liked.

23:02

You know, he's for being a D two

23:05

guy. I thought he more than held his

23:07

own with the Senior Bowl. He If

23:09

you had no idea that, uh, you

23:11

know, the helmet was from a D two school, I don't think

23:13

you would have really noticed that he uh you

23:16

know that you wouldn't have said that he didn't

23:18

belong.

23:18

So that gave me a lot of a

23:21

lot.

23:21

Of optimism, you know, moving forward that hey,

23:23

he's got a chance to uh you know, get

23:25

drafted, make it to a camp, make it to a roster,

23:28

uh, you know, be someone that teams will want to develop.

23:30

So, you know, I think that makes sense.

23:33

We have not talked about Hendon Hooker yet

23:35

from Tennessee, so let's have that Hendon Hooker conversation

23:37

real quick. What are your thoughts on him

23:39

projecting through the NFL. Where are you at in terms

23:41

of where you think he's gonna come off the board.

23:45

I mean, you know, I was hoping to ask you first have

23:48

to answer the question.

23:50

It's it's tough because look, he's he's

23:54

coming off the a c L injury, coming

23:56

from an offense that is, you

23:58

know, half read, and there's a lot of a

24:01

lot of things that aren't going to translate.

24:02

A lot of things he's gonna have to relearn.

24:04

And look, we know that teams

24:07

when they draft quarterbacks, they try to get

24:09

you to unlearn things, you know, and

24:11

they because they want to build you up in their program.

24:13

And with Hooker, I think he has

24:16

the intelligence to do that. He has the metal

24:18

capacity, and so I think that's something that teams

24:20

are going to bet on with hen and Hooker. But

24:23

you know, he's already

24:25

twenty five years old coming off an ACL injury,

24:28

So you know, I don't know, maybe

24:30

the second half of his rookie year, you

24:32

know, he'll be actually ready

24:34

to be on the field. Maybe,

24:37

So you're looking at you know, year one, he's

24:39

not going to give you much. Year two, you

24:41

hope that he's gonna be able to come in and

24:44

compete for a job. And

24:46

so I think the timeline is really murky with

24:48

Hooker, but just with his ability

24:50

as a quarterback, you know, I think

24:52

you really like his the way

24:54

he gets the ball out on time, smooth

24:56

delivery, very efficient.

24:59

But again offense, uh with

25:02

in Knoxville was very quarterback friendly.

25:04

There's gonna be a learning curve. I think

25:06

he needs to get better with his internal clock.

25:09

The progression reads are obviously gonna be a lot

25:11

different with what he is gonna be has to do in the NFL

25:14

and with that just being more precise,

25:16

so because everything's gonna be happening

25:18

a little a little quicker and using the whole field.

25:20

So but I do think that he's an instinctive

25:23

player, instinctive athlete, the football

25:25

characters off the charts, and

25:28

I do think that he has you know, he's certainly

25:30

tough enough as well. So this is a developmental

25:33

quarterback who has a

25:35

you can see a path where he becomes a starter. Uh

25:38

you know, you can you can see that path,

25:40

and so I think that gives him a boost over

25:43

some of these other quarterbacks that you know, I

25:45

know, we really like. Uh Now, where he's

25:47

where is he gonna be drafted? That's that's

25:49

a tough one. I know, I know, you

25:51

know, Daniel Jeremiah put him in his first round,

25:53

which I don't know. That seems

25:55

way too rich for me to take. Uh,

25:58

you know, a guy coming off an A C injuries,

26:00

got all this development developing to do. But

26:03

I understand where someone would bet on Hennon

26:05

Hooker and say the second round. I get

26:07

that, you know, it's kind of like, uh, you

26:10

know Jalen Hurts. You know, I get why someone bet

26:12

on him in the second round, and hey, it's that's hit.

26:15

Maybe it will with the Hendon Hooker, but I don't know.

26:17

Could you see him going in the first Yeah.

26:19

To me, it comes down to all those points you hit

26:21

at the beginning, Like if you're in the first round

26:23

and you want to I get like looking at what

26:25

Jalen Hurts has done over these last few years

26:27

and say, okay, like we want that. Well, Like I'm

26:30

pretty sure like Jalen Hurts is younger

26:32

right now than Hendon Hooker is right now, right Like he's

26:35

a younger player. I think when you look

26:37

at Hendon Hooker, all the points you mentioned, I mean

26:39

that the offense that he comes from, you know,

26:41

the historically has not projected players

26:43

well to the NFL. Those guys are just not ready. I think

26:46

back to Bryce Petty coming out of Baylor

26:48

and saying, yeah, like year two, Like when I got to the NFL,

26:50

like I didn't know the difference between Cover two and Cover four, right,

26:53

Like you're not asked to read defenses

26:55

in that ver that bar raid, that bar raid

26:57

offense. And I think when you look at Hendon

26:59

hook and you say, okay, like you know, he's

27:01

played in a couple different offenses. He started his career Virginia

27:04

Tech. So maybe it's not a complete

27:06

tear down, right, but if you factor

27:09

in that, yeah, he's gonna have a little bit of mental development. His best

27:11

football is most productive football has been spent

27:13

in this offense. But let's just say he's gonna need a little

27:15

bit of mental development. You've got the

27:17

ACL injury and you're already a little bit behind

27:19

the curve. And from an age standpoint, that's

27:22

that's I think that's a tough pill to swallow

27:24

in round one. But I don't know, man, Like

27:26

crazier things have happened, Like Brandon Wheedon went into the first

27:28

round. He was three years older, right, And that wasn't like

27:31

that long ago. It was it was almost a decade, I guess,

27:33

or a decade ago, but like not like that

27:35

long ago where Brandon Reidan was a

27:37

twenty eight year old from from honestly the

27:39

same offense essentially, you know, and

27:41

uh and waited in the league. So yeah,

27:44

that's gonna be really interesting to see where Hooker

27:46

goes off the board. I really I do like the talent. I do

27:48

like the film, but it's gonna be a really interesting

27:51

discussion. Last player I want to ask you about,

27:53

because then there will be.

27:55

Jalen Hurts is eight months younger

27:57

than Jan Hooker right now.

27:59

Yeah, right, good? Yeah, all

28:01

right, so we all the guys we did not mention Clayton

28:04

Tune from Houston, Jaron Hall from

28:06

b YU, Max dug and TCU

28:08

Stetson Bennett Georgia. I'll let

28:10

you pick dealer's choice here, pick one,

28:13

Pick one guy.

28:14

Let's stick with the old guys.

28:16

Jared Hall, he's

28:18

already twenty five years old, actually just

28:20

turned twenty five three days ago. He

28:23

grew on me throughout the process, which I didn't expect.

28:25

You know, he's a former baseball

28:28

player, played at b YU actually, and

28:30

you can see it just with the way he moves

28:33

out there.

28:33

He's very coordinated. You

28:35

know, he's I think if you are.

28:37

An RPO based offense,

28:40

run a lot of play action.

28:42

You want your quarterbacks on the move. Jared

28:44

Hall would be a nice fit.

28:46

So much like he's a he looks like a right handed

28:48

to the way he's built, the release,

28:51

the way he moves like very very

28:53

much like Tua.

28:55

Yeah, no, compactly built,

28:57

not a big guy, and

29:00

he's a smooth operator. He's poised.

29:03

You know, he can make plays with his arm, with his legs,

29:06

you know. I he I think he benefited

29:08

from a lot of scheme winners in that b YU

29:10

offense and that won't be the case as much

29:12

in the NFL. So just improving

29:14

his passing, anticipation, things like that. But I

29:17

really he's a little bit of a dual threat.

29:19

Not a guy you're going to be, you know, really

29:21

scared of his legs, but he's got somewhat of a dual

29:23

threat ability. I think

29:25

he processes fairly

29:27

well.

29:28

He's you know, just a lot.

29:29

Of things working in his favor that in the right

29:31

fit, the right offense, I think that there's

29:33

potential there.

29:35

Yeah, he's he's certainly a fun player to get

29:37

into real quickly. I'll just hit on Clayton two and six

29:39

two two twenty coming out of Houston. Another guy's

29:41

gonna be a little bit older. He will be a twenty four year old rookie,

29:44

you know, coming from the Cougars, and he's

29:46

a pretty athletic kid, has been productive

29:48

over the course of his career. He's got really good touch to all

29:50

areas of the field. That's probably my number one trait

29:52

I really like with Clayton Tune. I

29:55

think the the processing ability, the anticipation

29:57

I'd like to see just get a little bit better. I was expecting a

29:59

little bit more from him this past year

30:01

as a starter in that category. But I think when

30:03

you look at the touch and the accuracy,

30:06

he can make plays off platform as well as on platform.

30:10

I think the decision making can improve a little bit. The

30:13

arm talent's not going to blow you away, but I think there's

30:15

enough there to make you think, like, okay, like this guy could

30:17

be a backup in the

30:19

NFL. But again, I think that you're probably

30:21

looking at a guy who starts his career as a

30:24

number three that you hope is a number

30:26

two by the end of that rookie contract. I think that's

30:28

like kind of like best case scenario for Clayton Tune.

30:30

And I would say that. You know, I would say that about about

30:32

Jaron Hall, I'd say that about Aidan O'Connell, Tyson

30:35

Bagent. You throw in that category, dtr you throw

30:37

in that category right like the starts a number

30:39

three, hope to get him to a number two, and

30:42

then you're kind of cooking from cooking with gas from there.

30:44

I feel like guys like you know, like Hainar,

30:47

maybe even like a Tanner McKee, I feel like I've got

30:49

a little bit more faith in their ability to reach

30:51

that two plateau a little bit

30:53

faster. I don't know if you agree, Yeah,

30:56

i'd probably agree, man.

30:57

But this guy, he went through the ringer in college

31:00

where you know, the Deeric King

31:02

situation. He was forced in there, and

31:05

you know, he he didn't play very well early on,

31:07

got benched at one point, and then

31:10

he really came on to you know, he is fourth

31:12

and fifth seasons with the with the with the program.

31:14

He did a really nice job and he actually tested

31:16

as one of the better athletes would we have

31:19

at quarterback this year.

31:20

So I don't I don't.

31:21

I mean he's I don't think he was a bad athlete, but I didn't expect

31:24

him to test like one of the better athletes in this class.

31:26

So thirty seven and a half inch vert

31:28

was the best of any quarterback in the last decade.

31:31

Six eight ninety three cone. I mean that's a

31:34

two and a half six two and a half two twenty

31:36

right exactly. So this is not a he's not a

31:38

small guy, but he's an athletic guy. So yeah,

31:41

there's definitely things with Clayton tune that

31:44

you know, I can understand why you're gonna roll the dice

31:46

on a guy like this is you know, going back to the first question

31:48

you asked about how many quarterbacks are gonna be drafted, I

31:50

can understand why it's team would come to the conclusion

31:52

that sixth, seventh round. You know, let's

31:55

see, let's let's try Clayton to see what we got

31:57

here with a year or two in our system.

31:59

Well, we did the Yeah, the passers today, Dane.

32:01

Next week we do the past catchers. We're doing wide

32:03

receivers and tight ends next week. Another double dip position

32:06

for us, like we did the dbs a week ago. But Dane,

32:09

appreciate the time, as always, give us

32:11

real quick before we let you go an update on the beast.

32:13

What are we expecting in terms of release date or

32:15

what are you thinking here? Obviously

32:17

all all of our listeners know to be on the lookout

32:20

for the beast.

32:22

We're down to the final week week and a half of

32:24

Pro Days, and so as soon as that's those are over,

32:26

it's a matter of just getting everything

32:29

laid out and everything with the you know, behind the scenes

32:31

people, and we're close. We're very close, hopefully

32:35

you know, right around right around Easter that's

32:37

when you know the final pro days will be finishing

32:40

up. And so definitely excited

32:42

to share this thing. And I

32:44

mean it's it's it's almost ready.

32:46

We're close.

32:48

Well, we'll eagerly we are eagerly

32:50

anticipating that release. Dan, thanks so

32:52

much for joining us once again on the journey of the Draft

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Podcast presented by Life Brand, and we will talk to you next

32:56

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32:59

Now it's time to hear from you the fans

33:01

in the Draft mail back.

33:04

All right, great stuff there from Dane. Now we transition

33:06

to our draft mailback where again we're doing one

33:08

of your mock drafts. Scouts it out left a five

33:11

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33:13

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33:15

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show. So Scout's Out left the comment

33:26

saying, Fran new version of my

33:28

mock draft. Now that all the picks are locked in, let me

33:30

know what you guys think. So here's the top five

33:33

from Scout's Out. The Carolina Panthers selecting Ohio

33:35

State quarterback CJ. Stroud, the Texans

33:37

taking quarterback Bryce Young from Alabama,

33:39

the Arizona Cardinals selecting pass rusher Will

33:41

Anderson from Alabama. And I will say Scout's

33:44

Out, if the top three teams stay this way,

33:46

I do think that this is how the top three will go. I think you

33:48

go Stroud, Young, Anderson. Now

33:50

do the Cardinals trade out? I think that's the big question

33:53

is if Arizona trades out, then obviously that's

33:55

likely for a quarterback, and it's probably Anthony

33:57

Richardson off the board. But I think we will see

34:00

who goes number three. But I think if the Cardinals stay

34:02

put, I think you're looking at Will Anderson there to

34:04

the Arizona Cardinals and Jonathan Gannon.

34:06

At number four, the Indianapolis to Colts

34:09

take Will Levis, the quarterback from Kentucky,

34:11

over Anthony Richardson, who goes number

34:13

five to the Seattle Seahawks. I think that

34:15

if the if Anthony Richardson is there for the Seahawks,

34:18

I do think that he probably is the pick.

34:21

I think if the Colts, if they decide to go

34:23

quarterback, man, I think they probably

34:25

go Levis, but I could definitely see them going

34:27

Richardon as well. It's it's gonna be really interesting

34:30

to see which way the Colts go. I would say, like if

34:32

I had to, if I had my guests, is to what they're doing,

34:34

and i'd just split it up. I'd say thirty

34:36

three percent chance Levis, thirty three percent

34:38

Richardson, and maybe thirty

34:40

four percent they go non quarterback there. I

34:42

know there was the report from Greg Doyle, I believe from

34:44

the Indie Star out in Indianapolis, saying he

34:47

thinks that they're going to pass on quarterback early and maybe

34:49

take a Hendon Hooker a little bit later in the draft

34:52

once you get into round two. But I think

34:54

it's gonna be fascinating to see what the Colts end up

34:56

doing here. Do they feel they need to force the

34:58

issue to make sure they get their guide, make sure the get

35:00

their quarterback. You know, they have Gardner

35:02

Minshew there signed as a free agent. Do they feel

35:04

like that's enough? If they don't address quarterback

35:06

here this year, it's gonna be fascinating. But

35:09

that's really gonna be obviously one of the the fulcrums

35:11

of this coaching, of this of this draft

35:13

process. Let's go to the next part here of the top ten,

35:16

the Detroit Lions at number six, they take Oregon

35:18

corner Christian Gonzalez. I think that's definitely on

35:20

the table. The Las Vegas Raiders selecting

35:22

Peter Skeronsky, the left tackle from

35:25

Northwestern, I think that that is a possibility.

35:27

I think that he and Paris Johnson probably, you

35:30

know, the most likely options there for

35:32

the for the Las Vegas Raiders. My guess

35:35

is they go Johnson over Skoransky. But you

35:37

know, I think when you look at the versatility there

35:39

for Johnson, that the proven versatility,

35:41

by the way, because Kronski certainly has that ability

35:44

to play guard, but Johnson has done it already, So

35:46

I think when you see that, I think that might give him a little

35:48

bit an edge. I think the Raiders do value that

35:50

versatility, especially up front. I

35:52

think you look now at pick number nine, the Chicago

35:55

Bears selecting Tyree Wilson, the pass

35:57

rusher from Texas or from Texas

35:59

Tech, and then the Eagles at number ten selecting

36:01

Jalen Carter, the defensive tackle from Georgia.

36:04

It's gonna be interest to see what Chicago Bears do they

36:06

trade that down from number one. They end up at number

36:09

nine, they have the ability to take the guy that

36:11

they were mocked so often to at number

36:13

one. I find it hard to believe that they would

36:15

press or that they would pass there on

36:17

Jalen Carter. I feel like they would be pressed to

36:20

take that talent to defensive tackle from

36:22

Georgia, which would leave Tyree Wilson there for the

36:24

Eagles if they decided to go that way.

36:27

Let's go down to the rest of this draft. Number

36:29

eleven, Tennessee Titans selecting Broderick Jones,

36:31

the left tackle from Georgia. I'll be interest

36:33

see if they go offensive line in Tennessee again. Just because

36:35

they gave out a decent amount of money to former

36:38

Eagle Andre Dillard. They gave him a three year

36:40

deal. Does that lock him in to be a starter?

36:43

Is it certainly going to be at left tackle? It's been his best

36:45

position in the NFL, but he has dabbled

36:47

at other spots as well. We saw him play guard these

36:49

last couple of seasons here and there. So do they

36:51

feel like, hey, you know what, we could still take a tackle at

36:54

number eleven and we go shift Andre inside,

36:56

That'll be fascinating to watch. If not, do they

36:58

go wide receiver, do they go defense? Will be

37:00

interesting to watch here with the Tennessee Titans number twelve,

37:03

the Tennessee are the Houston Texans selecting

37:05

Miles Murphy from Clemson. Definitely

37:07

can see this pick. I think that that fits for a

37:09

number of different reasons. The New York Jets at number

37:11

thirteen, they take Jackson Smith in Jigba

37:14

wide receiver from Ohio State. It

37:16

would shock me. I think if the Jets took wide receiver.

37:19

They took Garrett Wilson high last year. They're

37:21

already they were the rumors for a number of these other free

37:23

agent editions. They just gave a

37:25

big deal to Alan Lazard, they

37:28

traded Elijah Moore, but they signed me call Hardman,

37:30

and they're again they're rumored for a bunch of these other

37:32

guys. Obviously the Aaron Rodgers. Things still kind of

37:34

lingering out there, so that that would surprise

37:36

me if the Jets went wide receiver there

37:38

in the first round. But I guess crazier things have

37:40

happened in the NFL Draft. New England

37:42

Patriots selecting Jordan Addison. I could definitely see

37:44

that. From USC, the wide

37:46

receiver won the Blittanikoff Award as the top

37:49

receiver in college football two seasons ago,

37:51

transferred out, had a good season with USC. I

37:53

could see New England taking Addison. They're

37:55

not going to be swayed by guys that didn't

37:57

quite you know, raise the ball

38:00

in terms of the athleticism. Wouldn't shock me if

38:02

Addison ended up as a New England Patriot.

38:04

Green Bay Packers selecting Alabama safety

38:06

Brian Branch I can see that. I think that's a fit. I

38:08

think that they were always looking for guys that have that versatility

38:11

on the back end. Washington Commanders selecting

38:13

cornerback Joey Porter Junior from

38:16

Penn State. I can see that as well.

38:18

I do think Benjamin we talked about this last week. I think

38:20

Benjamin Saint Juice the Corner from Washington has

38:22

better tape out there than people are giving him credit for.

38:24

I think a lot of people have kind of penciled in Washington

38:27

as, oh, they need a corner, they need a corner, they need a corner.

38:30

I think that they would be okay if they left

38:32

Saint Juice out there on the outside and if

38:34

they addressed some different positions. There

38:37

was an idea floated out there from

38:39

Hayden Winks from Underdog Fantasy

38:41

about Washington being kind of a sleeper spot

38:43

for Bejon Robinson, the running back from Texas,

38:46

and I think it makes a lot of sense for a lot of the reason. Go check

38:48

it out on Hayden winks timeline on Twitter.

38:50

He actually posted there was a couple

38:52

of tweets I believe of a reason why Bejon

38:54

could end up in Washington. I think it makes a lot of

38:56

sense from the commander's point of view.

38:59

Pittsburgh Steelers, they take cornerback. Devin Witherspoon

39:01

from Illinois definitely can see this

39:03

pick. I think he checks a lot of the boxes we've seen there

39:05

for the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Detroit Lions,

39:08

they take Antonio Johnson, the safety from

39:10

Texas A and M. I was really high on Johnson

39:12

coming into the year. I thought that he did a lot

39:14

of the different things you're looking for in today's strong

39:16

safety. He can play man coverage, He's

39:18

got great length, He'll come down and be physical

39:20

against the run. He's got some versatility to him. I

39:22

think he had a little bit of a down year this year, but I

39:25

think the overall talent you're still talking about in

39:27

the you know, the top fifty, top seventy five, I think

39:29

here in the top twenty, maybe a little of the top

39:31

twenty five, maybe a little bit rich, but I

39:33

do think that he's a very talented player. The

39:35

Bucks landing Bjon Robinson, the running

39:37

back from Texas, and yeah, I could

39:39

absolutely see the Tampa Bay Bucks,

39:42

you know, saying, yes, he is the best player available. We

39:44

want to be a physical run team. Leonard Fournette's not here

39:46

anymore, you know, beat, let's make Dejon Robinson

39:48

the pick. I could absolutely see that. So I think it's

39:50

going to happen. Probably not a little bit

39:52

of a soft reset here, trying to recalibrate

39:55

what they are, what the identity of this team is, but

39:57

I could see Bijon, you know, that being

39:59

the pick there for them. Seattle Seahawks,

40:02

they select Brian Brezy, the defensive lineman

40:04

from Clemson in this mock draft, and I

40:06

could see. I think he checks a lot of the boxes you've seen

40:08

from Seattle in the years past. They want to get better

40:10

on the defensive front. They've seemingly targeted

40:13

some of the high

40:15

recruits, the five star guys in

40:17

the draft in the pre draft process, and I think

40:19

that Brian Brezy certainly, you know,

40:22

he fits that pedigree that Seattle has looked

40:24

for. The Chargers select Michael Mayer,

40:26

the tight end from Notre Dame. I think that makes sense,

40:29

giving them a reliable threat over the middle

40:31

of the field. They do have some money there tied up into

40:33

Gerald Everett, but I think when you look at Mayor, he

40:35

checks a lot of boxes for them. The Baltimore

40:37

Ravens selecting wide receiver Jalen Hyatt certainly

40:40

gives them a vertical dimension in that pass

40:42

game, that ability to attack down

40:44

the field. Still got to figure out who that quarterback is

40:46

going to be. That's still up in the air at this point. But I think when you

40:48

look at Hyatt certainly gives them that dimension.

40:51

You have Rashad Bateman that can work the

40:53

work to the boundary, can work the middle of the field. You

40:55

have tight end Mark Andrews there as well. But Hi it

40:57

again just gives them something they don't have, so I could

40:59

see it from that angle. The Minnesota

41:01

Vikings selecting cornerback Cam Smith from

41:04

South Carolina, I like that pick certainly

41:06

a position of need. Jacksonville Jaguars take tight

41:08

end Darnell Washington again, a tracy player

41:11

you know there for that offense for that franchise.

41:13

They brought back Evan

41:16

Ingram, who they signed last year. I

41:18

think that Ingram certainly is a much different player

41:20

than Darnell Washington from a highweight,

41:22

speed standpoint and from a usage standpoint.

41:25

But I think that Washington again can

41:27

really add to that offense. So that certainly

41:29

does make sense for me. The New York Giants selecting

41:31

Trenton Simpson. I think with the amount of sub

41:34

package that that team plays, they love to play

41:36

you know, in dime and sometimes even in

41:38

dollar coverage where a ton of dbs on

41:40

the field. I think that when you look at Trenton Simpson,

41:43

not a true like Mike Backer in terms, he wasn't

41:46

a guy like setting the defense and making all the calls for Clemson,

41:48

which you would be required to do in that kind

41:51

of sub package. But he's

41:53

got outstanding athleticism. I think when you look

41:55

at his movement skills, his blitzing ability, I

41:57

think it really makes sense in that defensive

41:59

system that they've got building there in New York.

42:02

Dallas Cowboys select TCU wide receiver

42:04

Quinton Johnson, looking for another boundary threat.

42:06

That certainly makes sense. That allows Ceede Lamb to play

42:08

more in the slot. I could see Quentin Johnson being

42:11

the target there for the Dallas Cowboys. The Buffalo

42:13

Bills they take offensive lineman Osirius Torrance

42:15

from Georgia or from Florida. He has

42:17

been a guard through and through throughout his career.

42:19

He's bounced back and forth between left

42:22

and right, so you've got some versatility there, some

42:24

flexibility for Buffalo. I think that

42:26

makes sense. They want to be a you know, a kind of rough and

42:28

tumble team. I think when you look at Torrance, he

42:30

fits what the what Buffalo has been

42:32

building. The Cincinnati Bengals they take Iowa

42:35

defensive lineman Lucas van Ness. I

42:37

would say that it's a little bit lower than a lot of where

42:39

a lot of people feel van Ness is going to go off the board.

42:41

But I do think that that fits. They love that

42:44

versatility on the back of you know, everywhere defensively

42:46

on that side of the football, and I think he can plug

42:48

right in and play for that team. New Orleans

42:50

Saints, we're getting to to the end here in New Orleans Saints

42:52

take tight end Luke Musgrave from Oregon

42:54

State. I think that he does fit.

42:57

He can certainly be an inline player. They gave

42:59

Juwan Johnson a des deal. I guess

43:01

when you're looking at the Saints, this is a team that's always

43:03

owned like, how do we win right now? What do we need

43:05

to win right now? It's very rare

43:07

that they're making draft picks where they're looking like

43:10

far down the road. It always feels like they are going in

43:12

and saying, Okay, what do we need to win right

43:14

now? And I don't know that addressing

43:16

tight end is necessarily like a win now move

43:18

for them. But again, crazier thing,

43:21

crazier things have happened in the NFL draft.

43:23

Philadelphia Eagles here at pick number thirty, they take

43:25

Maryland corner Deontate Banks, really long,

43:28

physical corner, tested off the charts

43:30

as an underclassman who declared for the draft. I

43:32

think this is right around the range were you're talking about him at end

43:34

of round one, early round two. You

43:36

know, I was talking about him with somebody this past

43:39

week, and you know when you say, you know, when you look

43:41

at corners, there aren't a lot of guys that

43:43

are built the way he is, that move

43:45

the way he does, that get out of round one. It just

43:47

does not happen all that oftense. So that would be

43:49

the case for Deontay Banks and then the Kansasity

43:51

Chiefs all the way. At the end of round one they

43:53

get Nolan Smith, the pass rusher from Georgia. I would

43:56

say, I'll eat

43:58

a shoe if Nolan Smith gets this late

44:00

in the draft. I would say that one would be

44:02

really, really surprising. I know, coming off the injury,

44:05

that's big. He's an undersized rusher for sure.

44:07

Actually, just looking back, I haven't really counted, but it seems like a

44:09

lot of the pass rushers have gone a little bit further

44:11

than expected. I said that with van ness, but just

44:14

thinking back and not a ton of the pass rushers went

44:16

as high as I would have expected, but Nolan Smith

44:18

falling all the way to thirty one would be a huge deal for

44:20

the Chiefs would be a surprise for me. I would be shocked

44:23

if he did end up that long in the draft.

44:25

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44:27

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