In this episode the team (Sam, Tor and Ash) discuss 2x16 "The Long Goodbye." Tune in as we talk about John being allergic to feelings, Torri's award deserving acting, and the many different ways this episode could have been made (better).

TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Hello and welcome01:47 everyone's initial thoughts on the episode03:51 we love the cold opening and discuss TV in the stargate universe (earth is just weird)08:07 we never got the whole team going to Earth :( so we make up a quick thing ourselves to compensate10:30 Caldwell is back! with continuity!16:22 the imprinting scenes and John's allergicness to feelings23:17 the John/Elizabeth dynamic that this episode creates28:56 what exactly is Phoebus' and Thalan's deal? and is this episode too serious? The what ifs of it all 36:59 Rodney shooting at John: funny or not? we have mixed feelings42:11 Torri's acting in this ep is everything, actually. Sad that it wasn't as Elizabeth, tho.54:50 why do the men (in particular john) get all the emotional impactful scenes? and why are they setting up this weird love triangle (love corner?) between elizabeth-john-teyla?01:01:43 When was the last time Teyla and Elizabeth interacted? Spoiler alert: it's been a while01:03:15 how we would have incorporated John's and Elizabeth's perspective into the episode 01:10:53 we're not happy with Caldwell is treating everyone here01:15:40 we're team rodney but also could rodney handle command of Atlantis & all the ways SGA could have handled command of Atlantis if Elizabeth had to go the way she did01:29:12 Teylabeth crumbs!01:33:09 let's talk about the continuously terrible treatment of Teyla's character (and women in general)01:52:12 Hey Lorne! Hey Carson!01:54:28 Poor Ronon :( he's way too trusting 01:56:22 Bechdel Test and Behind the scenes02:06:30 Fic corner!02:12:01 Ratings and good byes!

FIC REC CORNERRoadside Attractions by auburn: https://archiveofourown.org/works/71583844,739 Ways to Eat a Hamburger by Minervacat: http://minervacat.stormwerks.net/gates/sga/hamburger.htmlThe Difference Engine by copperbadge: https://archiveofourown.org/works/568453/chapters/1017585

SHOW NOTESMiller's Crossing Deleted Scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ETU2OF0aGg SGU Cast interview (the part Sam talked about is in Part 3): https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL40mFr6JB3qZnOmXsJtkr1Jn4wG7-_CvU&feature=shared

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