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Just two Murph's talking hoops

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. The journey to June

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continues . We

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are in September , we

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got two weeks or so until NBA

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training camp starts , so we're a little bit

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of a hiatus . So what I thought

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I would do this week , I think we're going to

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change it up a little bit , and

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today we're going to bring in a special

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guest . It is not

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just the coach I'm about to bring in , we

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also have with us with the coach

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Caden Neves

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Welcome to the show , Caden

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and Coach Murph . Good to see you , man

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.

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Nice to see you too .

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I can't contain myself . I did , I contained

0:59

myself . You see that I can barely burst in

1:01

baby Caden in the house . Big

1:03

cat in the house , let's go . He's

1:05

sitting right next to me baby .

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This is a first on Just Murph's Caden

1:09

. Okay , we started this podcast back

1:11

2020 , right before the pandemic

1:13

. It used to be just Just Two Murph's talking

1:16

sports , but then we realized what

1:18

we really want to talk about hoops , so

1:20

it changed up . It's been this journey to June

1:22

. Obviously we're self-expand you know that we're

1:24

getting into that but it's been pretty NBA

1:27

heavy . The whole idea is getting

1:29

fans on from different parts of the country

1:31

Get their take . It's been great

1:34

. But the reason why this is a first

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we have never had a

1:38

real hooper An

1:41

actual hooper on

1:43

the show for the first time

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. I don't even know what to do here , man . I don't even know

1:48

where to start , coach , you know what to

1:50

do .

1:50

Just keep . I know a lot about this guy . You

1:52

just go . This is my guy . I've

1:55

worked with hundreds , not thousands

1:57

, of student athletes . He might be just the best

1:59

I've ever worked with . So this is history in the

2:01

making . This man , this young man

2:03

, is going to the NBA and I'm so excited

2:05

to be part of this journey . It's just

2:07

Kayden , we had a great day . Paul

2:10

, go ahead and ask your question .

2:11

So , Caden , why don't you just jump in man , kind

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of just introduce yourself , tell

2:16

us your story a little bit , and then we'll go

2:18

from there , if that works .

2:20

So my name is Caden and I am originally

2:22

from Weymouth , Massachusetts's

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. So I was born in the South Shore Hospital and

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so I lived here most of my life until

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what was it ? Almost a year ago , around

2:32

October , I moved to Indiana . We

2:35

moved to Indiana because it

2:37

was going to benefit my mom in

2:40

a good way , financially

2:42

and like- .

2:44

We got some moms . She's an incredible woman

2:46

, strong , awesome woman , and

2:49

we're blessed to have our moms , aren't we ?

2:51

Yes , sir , continue . And

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so we went to

2:55

Indiana , thinking it was

2:57

going to be a very good experience

2:59

, but

3:01

, I mean , it turned out really differently than we thought

3:04

. So after

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that we decided that

3:08

it would be best to move to Michigan

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, since they have different rules in Indiana

3:13

, because I reclassed my

3:15

freshman year and so Indiana only

3:17

has a rule where you can play four years

3:19

of high school , but in Michigan it doesn't

3:22

matter how many years you play , unless

3:24

you're 19, . But I graduated

3:26

at 18 .

3:28

Yeah , you're class of 2025 , right , you're 16

3:30

? Yeah , sweet

3:32

man . So right now

3:34

, obviously , you're here in Massachusetts

3:37

. You started your journey in Massachusetts , but

3:39

you played for Fishers right In

3:41

Indiana . Yeah , had

3:44

a good time over there , but now you're in Michigan , is that right ?

3:46

Yeah , I wouldn't say Fishers was

3:48

the best time for me , but I mean it

3:51

definitely taught me a lot of life lessons . It

3:54

taught me not everybody's going to

3:56

be on your side and you have to work

3:59

against people that aren't

4:01

the same community or office

4:03

as you . You know what I'm saying . So

4:06

I basically got there . In Boston we played

4:09

different . I would say our body

4:11

language is a little different than Fishers

4:14

. I mean , I came

4:16

in with a different play style . I like to pass the

4:18

ball . I move it , try

4:20

to they

4:22

try to pass it like probably eight times for a player it's

4:24

not like that , but it's like a lot . And

4:26

in Boston it's like if you have like an open shot

4:29

, like you're going to take that shot . Yeah

4:31

, because that's basketball , like it's faster

4:33

pace .

4:35

But you dealt with adversity there and

4:37

you have to have that in life .

4:39

What brought you over to Fishers Is that ? Forgive

4:42

my ignorance , this is all new to me . Is that

4:44

a prep school ? Like what ?

4:46

brought you over to . It was a public school .

4:48

Gotcha . So you just kind of moved to Indiana , and

4:50

that's what brought you there , gotcha .

4:52

Okay , Because my mom she researched

4:55

Fishers , so

4:57

she's like okay .

4:58

I gave big off some moms . They're a

5:00

dynamic duo .

5:01

She was like oh , is

5:04

it a good program , basketball

5:06

, the workout a lot , it looks good . And

5:08

for academics they're like 700

5:10

or 700 in the country . So

5:13

for academics and basketball she's like this is going

5:15

to be like a way better opportunity for you to

5:18

academically answer basketball and

5:21

I was honestly excited to go at first .

5:23

So yeah , you never know right

5:25

. You got to test the words . You got to take that chance

5:27

like you did . Let's go backwards

5:30

before we go forwards . So when you said

5:32

they passed a lot and instead

5:34

of letting you be aggressive , talk to me

5:36

about your experience in Boston , in

5:38

Massachusetts , and were you more the go-to

5:40

guy ?

5:41

And then you felt like you were kind of hampered when

5:43

you moved on , or I

5:46

want to say I was really a go-to guy but I

5:48

feel like I really got kind of my

5:51

fair share with the ball . You know what I'm saying

5:53

. Like , if I got a shot , I'm going to take it

5:55

. I'm not going to pass up a good

5:57

shot for a great shot . But sometimes that's really what you

5:59

have to do . But in that case they were

6:01

passing up too many shots for what

6:04

they thought was a better shot . But it didn't

6:06

really turn out to be like that .

6:07

That sounds like the Celtics . We

6:10

need to go to a guy like you on the Celtics

6:12

. It just wasn't a good fit there .

6:14

Yeah , it's part of his journey . Moving forward , he learned his

6:16

learning lesson I always done Michigan , and I know

6:18

he's vibing down there . Let's just move on to Michigan

6:20

. That's in his past now , sure .

6:22

Before we do that , I want to know a little bit more about

6:25

you , who you are . As far as a basketball player

6:27

, I think , what you're a shooting guard Is

6:29

that your position ? Yeah , and

6:31

what you think about 6'5" .

6:33

Yeah , 6'5" , 6'6" Awesome

6:35

. I really like shooting the ball . I

6:38

mean I think that's really one of my biggest strengths because

6:42

I mean my handle is pretty decent , it's pretty

6:44

good . It's not crazy . I

6:47

can put the ball on the floor , I can take it to the hoop

6:49

. But what I really look forward to doing

6:51

when I'm playing is just really catching

6:54

shoot 3s or maybe a may range

6:56

if I get cut off from a 3 . So

6:58

you got good range , yeah .

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So that's a silky smooth shot dude .

7:02

Sweet man , who are some of

7:04

the guys that you pat

7:06

in your game after

7:09

that ? I would know

7:11

.

7:14

There's a couple guys , my trainer . He

7:18

put me onto some people , but I think I've

7:20

watched a lot of Harrison Barnes .

7:23

Mm Harrison Barnes , Nice

7:25

.

7:26

And there was somebody else I watched

7:28

. I kind of forget his name .

7:30

He's on the Kings right , sacramento Kings

7:32

right now .

7:33

Harrison . Yeah , I watched a lot of Keelan Martin too

7:35

Cool , because

7:38

he's like 6'7" . He's

7:40

not a big man , he's like a shooting guard . So

7:43

I like Keelan's game a lot . He

7:46

goes to . He's like a floater . From what I've really seen

7:48

, he's a great midi . He

7:51

could shoot the three balls as well .

7:53

That gives me a good idea of your style , man . That's

7:55

awesome , man . So you just

7:57

moved to Michigan . What's

7:59

the name of the high school you're going to be playing

8:02

for over there ?

8:03

Granville High School .

8:04

OK .

8:06

Yeah , it's definitely going to be a good year this

8:08

year , for sure .

8:11

And I guess what are we looking at as

8:13

far as the start of the season in high school , I'm going to guess

8:15

games start in December . So the

8:17

actual practice

8:19

and all that , what like October or even

8:21

November ?

8:22

right , yeah , I

8:24

mean we have some open runs now

8:26

, but I think we start

8:28

working out , practicing

8:30

and lifting and stuff and I think maybe

8:33

about a month .

8:34

Got it .

8:35

So right now we've just had a few workouts

8:38

a week in some open gyms .

8:40

So what brought you back to Massachusetts ? What

8:43

are you doing over there now , man ?

8:45

My mom came here for a work event

8:47

. So I'm really just down here

8:49

kind of seeing where

8:51

I grew up , kind of seeing the places again . What

8:54

did we do today . I mean , today we went

8:57

back to my old house before our moves and

8:59

honestly kind of felt relieved because I feel like I had

9:01

so much like , oh , I miss Boston , I

9:03

miss Boston . And I kind of

9:05

got relieved today that I could really go

9:08

back and just see where it

9:10

all started here .

9:11

We went back to his own apartment . We ran

9:13

in there . This was nice , he's right .

9:16

Yeah , what else did we do ? And then

9:18

after that we went to the Norah Athletic

9:20

Club , lifted a little

9:22

bit , played a little bit of basketball , went

9:24

into the steam room sauna , and

9:26

then went and floated in the ocean for a little bit

9:28

. It was kind of hard Nice .

9:30

Oh , we went to Ducksburg , yeah , because

9:32

, lee , we were in post-Horricane waves . It

9:35

was really awesome man . It was for real

9:38

. We had a day today , man , and

9:40

I haven't seen him in a year , so he means a lot to

9:42

me . I'm happy because I literally grew

9:44

. When I first saw him , I was like he literally

9:47

grew like an inch , but he

9:49

grew . I was watching him play on the court . His

9:51

physicality , he's grown and he's only 16

9:53

. And Kobe would say I stunk at

9:56

16 . He doesn't stink at 16

9:58

. But he's in this . We all know about this growth

10:00

period . Michael Jordan , he didn't what he

10:02

didn't make his high school year as an athlete

10:05

in high school he was awesome

10:07

, and that's what's just going to happen to him .

10:08

I can see it Awesome man .

10:10

And he's maturing . It's all mindset

10:12

. But his game and

10:14

he's got a better vibe . He's feeling a better vibe down

10:17

there in Michigan where we're talking about . He's got a good friend , he's

10:19

got a good coach looking out for him and

10:21

he's a leader in the making . Right , we're all , that's

10:23

it right there . I'm stoked

10:26

for this guy . It's going to be the breakout season Because

10:28

he deserves a B in that top 10

10:30

. Talk that top right Doug

10:32

, yeah for sure . So he's very

10:35

humble and cool . That's why I make a good team

10:37

, Because you know me , Crazy Wild . He's the

10:39

cool , calm cat . We call him the big cat

10:41

, the cool cat , but he's going to grow

10:43

. There's no reason why

10:45

he wouldn't be top 50 after this season

10:47

.

10:48

After this season ? Yeah , for sure he's going to drop double

10:50

, doubles on every night it sounds like at the other

10:52

school .

10:53

I mean , there's too much passing . If you don't have the ball in

10:55

your hand , you can't show what you can do , that's

10:57

not helping right ?

10:59

Yeah , that's not going to get your stock up . I

12:33

mean I feel like at Fishers it was really more like

12:35

what the coach wanted instead

12:37

of really kind of how the players wanted to play

12:39

, and I mean that's understandable , but it was

12:41

too much about running the play instead of

12:43

scoring the basketball

12:45

, because at the end of the game

12:48

, at the end of the day , you're going to have to put the ball in

12:50

the hoop there's no passive

12:52

40 times and get a turnover

12:54

, throw it out of bounds or miss

12:57

a shot , don't get the rebound . And

12:59

they were more focused on defense and

13:01

they're saying defense wins games , which

13:03

is true , but at the end of the day

13:05

, like I said , you need to put the ball in the hoop and

13:07

not many people on that team are doing that besides Jalen

13:10

, yeah .

13:12

So with that type of talk that you want to

13:14

move up the ranks . I'm guessing basketball is

13:16

your full-time sport 365

13:19

, like you're just working out all throughout the year . This guy's

13:21

going on the NBA .

13:23

This is like a . This is a special

13:25

human being that people don't know about . This

13:27

is history in the making . I've seen

13:29

him I when I was working with Novak Djokovic

13:31

, nobby said he'd be number one . When I was working with one of the best

13:33

hand-spreaders in the world and

13:35

I saw he has the shine . He has the God gift given

13:38

gifts and talents and he just needs to work

13:40

on them , like we all do . It just needs to shape them . Yeah

13:42

, like , like . Who's going to say I just had to deal with

13:45

adversity in Indiana . He

13:47

knows he needs to learn from that . He's humble , has

13:49

humility . When I talk to him , he's like yeah , yeah

13:51

, yeah , right . He doesn't say get defensive , you

13:54

know , we got to remain teachable and he's just going to grow

13:56

. And he's we haven't seen wait . And

13:58

then senior year , boom , and then

14:00

he's going to get paid to play some college ball right , of

14:02

course , bam See that .

14:04

Of course you know it's funny when you

14:06

say that that is new . At college they do pay you

14:08

. What does it call it ? What do they call

14:10

it ? The NIL NIL

14:13

, thank you . Yeah , that's fairly new , but they actually

14:15

pay you in college . That's great .

14:17

Right here we're on our show Best kept secret

14:19

. It's going to be history . I'm going to go back how does that work ?

14:22

Can you educate me on that with the NIL

14:24

? Like , what type of player

14:26

gets that type of money ? I mean you don't have to be like

14:28

top 10 . I'm sure you can be what top

14:30

100 ? Or I mean , how many people

14:32

are getting that money ?

14:34

I think it's more like like

14:36

your publicity , I would say , or

14:38

like how well you're known . Mm Politics

14:41

, yeah , like . Or how much

14:43

you kind of like bring to the team , because if you're

14:45

benched on a team you're definitely not going to get a lot , but

14:47

like if you're like a big factor

14:49

in the team , I think for

14:51

that that's something like you can consider

14:54

like getting a lot of money , but I think it's

14:56

more just like publicity

14:58

and how well you're known , regardless

15:00

of like rank , and then I think from

15:02

there it just goes out to like how they

15:04

pay you . Awesome I know , I think

15:06

I'm not sure , but I think Jaylin

15:09

is talking about something , and I am

15:11

not sure , though I don't know if that's

15:13

correct or not , so don't

15:15

don't take my word for it . I

15:17

mean , he's definitely going to get one in college . It's going to

15:19

be a big paycheck .

15:22

I was just reading up on him . It looks like he had

15:25

a . Well , he was the point guard , right . Yeah

15:27

yeah , good guy , good

15:29

player .

15:30

Yeah , he's a very good player . He works

15:32

very hard there in practice and game . He

15:34

loves the game a lot . That's it .

15:36

What about these ? I guess the top

15:39

two right now , or sorry , not top two , but

15:41

this probably goes . What you said with publicity

15:44

is because it's Carlos Boozer's

15:46

sons , right ?

15:48

They go to politics .

15:49

I know you're with those guys . Yeah

15:51

, I'm familiar with them yeah , yeah

15:53

, you can't get much more publicity than that right

15:56

Obviously NBA dad , you know .

15:59

Well , look at staff , look at , look at . We're going to keep

16:01

ripping off names like like

16:04

who Mahomes his father was

16:06

? Oh , there's Yankee .

16:06

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

16:08

They had the whole lineup . They've been around that too , and

16:10

I love we're going to hear the amazing story . Your

16:12

mom's name is Amber , by the way . Say

16:14

, not just the moms like , but them too Like

16:17

. I know it's like written all over them . They're going to

16:19

, they're on a journey , just like the

16:22

just two morphs on the journey . And you can , I

16:24

can see it , man . They both shine . That's exciting

16:26

, man , grinding and struggling and going

16:28

through it . This isn't easy , man . When I was his age

16:30

I was so distracted I was gone so I

16:33

could not , and I was one of the best athletes around

16:35

. I could . No way was I were he is

16:37

. But we all just needed each other to

16:39

help one another and it's been great . He

16:41

taught me to stop . Today , personal

16:44

stuff helped me out , cause

16:47

I can be too verbal . I was like don't do that , don't do that .

16:51

Too much .

16:51

Do that , just do that , just do that little hard

16:53

, do that thing .

16:54

Even the coach , he's a little coach .

16:56

I need to certainly do , but

16:59

we had fun today and that's why I tell him to

17:02

. In the song I was like you got to be joyful . It

17:04

turns into this job , into this business . It's

17:06

just a game at the highest level . Man

17:08

and his body language he was . He

17:10

was compared to JT today , jason

17:14

Tatum and a go , which is an

17:16

incredible right . But also

17:18

, why do I knock it a little bit ? I'm

17:20

not knocking JT , I'm wearing am I wearing his

17:22

T-shirt right now ? Am I ?

17:24

Am I wearing this ? Yes , you are .

17:27

And he said I'm humbly one of the best players

17:29

in the world , because it's true , but what

17:31

do I don't like sometimes , and not just him , a

17:34

whole bunch of guys .

17:36

Like they don't believe in this stuff .

17:38

No , but what else ? What am I just saying in the car

17:40

today ? The body language

17:43

and the complaining . We can get stuck

17:45

into that mindset where it's just this pre-Madonna

17:48

body language . No , we

17:51

got to break that habit .

17:54

You know what's awesome Getting ready for the pod today

17:56

, because here's the thing , back to

17:58

what this pod is kind of about more

18:00

like NBA , right , we're like

18:03

in this slow time right now because training

18:05

camp doesn't start for a couple of weeks , so

18:07

I haven't really been paying attention because there's nothing really going on

18:09

. But I went on to Twitter today

18:12

KG and the Truth . They have a podcast

18:14

and they had Tony Allen

18:16

on and it's funny about

18:18

you guys talking about today working out

18:20

right , getting ready for the year , and

18:23

you're the coach , you're the player . So

18:25

there was a video of Paul Pierce

18:28

, paul Pierce and Tatum working out

18:30

in the gym , but what they were ? Talking

18:32

about is what Tatum needs with his next development

18:35

is the mentality . He's missing

18:37

that mentality Kind of like we're talking

18:39

about Kayden , where that past

18:41

past versus take the ball and just

18:43

shoot it , man Right .

18:47

Yeah , he's growing into that leadership role , but he's

18:49

growing in his IQ too . He's

18:52

already got the foundation , he's just going to grow more

18:54

. You know what I mean out there . But it's

18:56

like , of course I

18:58

am a prima donna , but

19:00

I have to bite my tongue . With my body language I'm

19:04

so reactive , I have to not go

19:06

sulk because it's self-centeredness . During

19:08

the game , if there's no whistle , there's a whistle blow that

19:11

I can stop , but no , no

19:13

whistle blow that you continue to go . Whether

19:15

you fall down , you get tripped , you get fouled , it doesn't matter

19:17

, because that means you're stopping the game . The

19:19

game goes on . You're missing it . You had

19:22

an opportunity to get back to the court . Down the court , get

19:24

the board . No , it's selfishness

19:26

and it's not mature . You're going

19:28

to grow , you got the jersey on .

19:29

We all need to mature . No , he's growing to messy .

19:31

It's incredible . We all have our

19:33

stuff , but we need to grow into

19:35

that , build that habit of responding

19:38

. You're

19:40

playing all the time with the rest and we don't get our

19:42

call . Yeah , and that's it . Man

19:44

, just play through , that's

19:46

all . I like that gritty toughness and it's hard

19:48

, so we're going to work it out .

19:50

So , kaden , when you get back , are

19:53

you ? Is it like tryouts right now ? Where

19:55

are things at as far as the team and getting

19:58

ready and as

20:00

far as just the calendar for you ?

20:03

Yeah , for working like tryouts . I think

20:05

they're in a couple of weeks , so I'm

20:07

definitely still preparing for that . What

20:10

are we ?

20:10

talking about for your preparation , like what did I say today .

20:12

It's like mindset and really kind of just keep

20:15

going at it Like don't go through

20:17

the motions , like do the full thing . So

20:19

what I really need to do is kind of get in the

20:21

gym more , get my mind right , recover

20:24

, and from

20:26

there I think I should be fine . I mean

20:28

, I'm not really worried about it .

20:29

He's got a agility , quickness , no worries

20:32

, Like like . He's strong man , big

20:34

, and he's learned how to do it . We're lifting . We

20:36

did that lift in benching , squatting

20:38

, lunging . But more

20:40

lightness for him , more quickness

20:43

in the develop .

20:44

So , being a three point shooter and being

20:46

more of a shooter how many is that like a daily

20:48

thing , Just getting up tons of shots every

20:50

day ? Or how do you get ready for the

20:52

season as far as getting your

20:54

rhythm down ?

20:56

Well , I think in the past I

20:58

will work on my shot like a lot more , because last

21:00

year , when I was at Fisher's , I go and shoot

21:03

every single morning , Like there's probably

21:05

like one to two mornings . I couldn't make it because

21:07

of whatever happened . I

21:09

mean I would literally go every single

21:11

day and use the gym as much as I possibly could , and

21:14

how many shots are you getting up when you say

21:16

that every single morning ? Probably

21:18

like 500 to 2000 .

21:22

Wow .

21:22

Yep Around that number yeah .

21:23

We worked it , man . We worked it today . Sweet

21:25

, but we were tired before the- .

21:27

But you felt doing it every morning that might have been a little

21:29

too much . So now , what

21:31

does that look like for you ?

21:34

Well , it wasn't a little too much , but I

21:36

think , as of right now , I think there's some

21:38

some things in my game where I need to get better , Like

21:41

I can . I can handle the ball decently

21:43

. It's just kind of when decision

21:46

making , like when I should put it on the floor or

21:48

if I should pass it or not . But I mean

21:50

, that's something I'll have to learn and I'm learning pretty

21:53

fast right now .

21:54

No , he's a quick learn , bro , like

21:56

I showed him an exercise that takes a while to

21:58

pre-bill to learn . This is going to go up high but it's

22:00

going to lock it and it exercises in an

22:02

exercise .

22:03

It's well , this is what's exciting for just

22:05

two nerves . Oh , now we have

22:07

another thing to talk about on the pod

22:10

as the season goes , this journey

22:12

to June . For us , it's all

22:14

about the NBA . It's definitely about our Celtics

22:16

. Right , that's how it started . But now we

22:18

got another journey to watch . Oh , you're going

22:20

to see your journey , kayden , and if you don't

22:22

mind , as things are going , we'd love

22:24

to get you back on the pod , maybe mid

22:26

-season definitely the end of the

22:28

season to check in and see how things are going

22:30

for you , have you also Love

22:33

that idea .

22:34

And I'd love to be back on this too . I

22:36

mean , I just kind of want to get my name

22:38

out there and I feel like this season is really

22:40

like a statement season , where

22:42

people should really like know what type of player

22:44

I am and like just know my name . So

22:47

they will right , of

22:49

course . Yeah , Awesome man .

22:51

Some triple doubles . Being the leader , I

22:54

don't always want to ask him , but I

22:57

want to know if you know a little bit more about AAU

22:59

. Want to tell Paul a little bit

23:01

about AAU basketball , high school basketball

23:03

a little bit maybe .

23:05

Yeah , I mean AAU and high school is

23:07

really different . I

23:10

mean , and it's kind of different in the

23:12

East Coast . East Coast and Midwest . I

23:15

mean for AAU and the Midwest they

23:17

don't do fall , and

23:20

out here I'm like mass and like surrounding

23:22

towns or whatever , or cities , cities

23:25

, this is fall

23:27

AAU . But I mean there's really

23:29

you don't really get exposure during fall AAU , so

23:32

I don't think most people do it . But

23:34

in the Midwest there's no like

23:36

fall AAU , it's just spring

23:38

and summer , and

23:40

so I mean it's

23:43

different . It's kind of different everywhere . I mean here

23:45

in Boston mass , whatever

23:48

AAU team I play for , we've always had AAU

23:50

practices . We've always had workouts

23:52

to get better , just to kind

23:55

of get to know your team more and

23:57

actually like win games . But I

23:59

think in the Midwest it's really just like you show

24:01

up and you play and you get exposure , because I

24:03

don't think I've ever been so far to

24:05

practice for a team . I

24:08

mean we've had some mini camps , but like that's

24:10

really about it , like we would just go all week without

24:12

playing each other and then just play a

24:14

game and hopefully we win .

24:17

I mean look at this face . Look at this face . It's more

24:19

handsome than us . This guy's got the whole thing , man

24:21

, he's the whole package . Two other shows

24:23

, not on TV . We're going to get that level . That's

24:25

another level . Once we get that million dollar contract

24:27

, who's going to get it first , us or you ?

24:29

Let's go , baby , probably both

24:31

of us , I don't know yeah .

24:33

That's right . So before

24:35

we had a day in Paul like we worked

24:38

hard , right , I went all the way to Boston to get them . We

24:40

went around , we're doing this and that we worked out

24:42

, and what do we do to get ? I

24:45

came back to the park when we ate some food . We

24:49

took a hot shower after the water

24:51

.

24:51

After the cold dunk in the ocean .

24:52

Yeah yeah , we chilled , watched a little ballers

24:55

. I don't know if we can say that . We can say

24:57

whatever you want .

24:58

Do whatever you want . Whatever you want , dude the

25:00

rock ballers , it's your pond .

25:02

Yeah , what am I thinking ? Come on , coach Murph

25:04

. See , coach Murph gets a little insecure

25:06

sometimes too , it's okay . So

25:08

, anyway , we had our food

25:10

and we're in a food cone like oh no the

25:12

pod , I'm tired . So

25:15

what I do ? I got some almonds

25:18

, some Brazilian nuts , some walnuts and I sprinkled

25:20

it with some chocolate syrup . Yes , boom

25:23

.

25:23

Probably the best thing I've ever eaten .

25:26

But you have nutritional application

25:28

. Those are organic , really

25:30

good . Nuts man , Brazilian

25:33

nuts , walnuts , almonds .

25:34

I love it .

25:35

We had the chocolate sauce . They ain't gonna kill you , it's good

25:37

for you too . Now we got a little more juice

25:39

, don't we ? Yeah ?

25:40

There you go , sitting in the seat for

25:42

two hours .

25:44

There was ultimate part in those waves too . That

25:46

was hard . Oh my goodness , the riptide was crazy

25:48

.

25:49

Like eight feet , eight to ten feet oh

25:52

damn .

25:52

But he does what I tell him to do for the float therapy

25:55

and his recovery in the water and he's

25:57

doing it , man . But I hope

25:59

you guys don't mind , but it's time

26:01

, it's time .

26:02

What's the time ? Are we doing a quiz ?

26:04

It's time , man . The

26:06

AAU quiz . The AAU quiz

26:08

.

26:08

Oh man , I

26:11

didn't know we were gonna throw in a coach's quiz

26:14

with our special guest . Here we go

26:16

, there we go , there we go Frisbees

26:18

chocolate covered cocoa

26:20

beans .

26:20

What was that ? Was that eating the caffeine ? Remember

26:23

I was having those coffee beans chocolate covered

26:25

coffee beans . Here we go , yeah , yeah yeah

26:27

, that was a little bit and too much with those ones

26:29

. All right , here we go . Baby , are you guys

26:31

ready for this ? Of course I'm ready , of

26:33

course these right . So

26:36

you can answer whenever you want and it doesn't matter

26:38

, and if you're wrong

26:41

you shush up . That's it , if

26:43

I'm wrong and the other guy can try to answer

26:45

. Okay , what

26:47

does the AAU , the association

26:51

, the AAU ? I shouldn't even say that I'm being an idiot

26:53

. What is the stamp for AAU ? What

26:55

is the stamp for ?

26:56

Amateur Athletic Club . Oh wait , no , no , no

26:58

, AAU .

27:01

I didn't hear you say that that was fudge .

27:03

You didn't say , that was something .

27:05

Amateur , american Amateur

27:08

Undergrads AAU

27:10

, I should know that .

27:12

It's three words guys .

27:13

Can't look at that .

27:13

Yeah , you almost had it . Say

27:16

it again back to Kaden , you had it . What

27:19

was it ? It's AAU .

27:20

Amateur Amateur Athletic

27:22

U .

27:26

What do we need to do to be the AAU Divide ? Oh yeah , fuck-ass

27:28

. Bald is his show , I just

27:30

am the sidekick . Look

27:33

the U . What happens if

27:35

we were divided as a nation ? What

27:37

do we need to be together If we're going to make this

27:39

happen ? You're going to make it happen . What do we need to have

27:41

? Unification , union

27:44

, the union

27:46

.

27:46

There we go . Damn it , we're not starting out

27:48

good here . Don't even know that , all right .

27:51

People didn't know that anyway , I bet it

27:54

started when 1885

27:57

. Holy moly

27:59

, did you look this up ? No , come on

28:02

, that's incredible , that's incredible .

28:03

I don't even have guesses .

28:04

No , but he didn't guess . Come on , paw

28:11

gaspaw , was

28:14

that off the dome or did you look something up ?

28:15

No , that's when I was born

28:18

.

28:18

Okay , it wasn't it , but it's close . 1885

28:20

or 1985? .

28:21

He said 1885 . He was close , he

28:23

wasn't right , but go ahead .

28:24

He was close , come on 1885

28:27

. But darn close 1889

28:30

. I'm sorry , the prime time Coach , prime says darn

28:33

, not darn .

28:34

Darn , darn Close 1888

28:38

. What did you say Paw Gaspaw

28:40

1889 .

28:42

Oh Paw Gaspaw 1897

28:45

.

28:46

It started the continued tournament .

28:48

This is the AAU basketball

28:50

tournament . It started in 1897

28:53

and has continued until present . How

28:55

? cool Most finals have been played

28:57

in a single final format , apart from some occasions

28:59

in the winners tournament have been decided by a round

29:02

robin format . Major professors

29:04

, players like Duncan David Robinson

29:06

might have heard that he

29:08

was a big time player center in San

29:10

Antonio Spurs back in the day . This was way before big

29:13

C's time , but he's become a

29:15

student of the game recently , more learning

29:17

the older game . Larry Brown

29:19

, greg Popovich were crowned champions

29:22

of the AAU . Popovich

29:24

and Robinson represented the US armed

29:26

forces . Remember that ? All stars ? Yeah

29:28

, remember all that . What

29:31

about years were

29:33

some of the strongest basketball teams

29:35

in the United States ? That

29:38

was between AAU teams

29:40

? Yeah , between 19 . It's the 1900s

29:43

, they say we were the strongest

29:45

.

29:45

He's getting deep .

29:46

He's getting deep , I'm gone deep I'm

29:49

not even gonna lie , I don't even know it . It's okay .

29:50

They say 1920 to 1950

29:53

, but I was like , uh , I don't know , but

29:56

that's when all the sponsorships started to come into

29:58

the 20th Century Fox , all

30:00

that good stuff . But this is the way it goes all the way back

30:02

to the 30s guys . Aau covers all

30:05

the sports , man , and it's pretty cool

30:07

, you know , and it's just , that's

30:10

a little quiz , a little something . You guys , ah

30:13

, lost it all , but

30:15

it's okay because it was so different from Usually

30:17

. Podcasts ball , you all stop .

30:20

I think more . The point for me with AAU is

30:22

it's a culture .

30:22

Now , Right Back to what

30:25

you were just saying promoting your brand and all that Like

30:27

what you hear .

30:27

Anyway , with all the NBA players I

30:29

follow now these guys are all but

30:32

like for me and Coach , we're like old school , we

30:34

go back to like the 80s right now Like

30:37

old school .

30:37

We are old school baby .

30:39

Well , right now , the show I'm

30:41

watching , that I'm all into and I wasn't into season

30:43

one , but I'm definitely into season two is

30:45

winning time . And it's all

30:47

about the 80s Lakers

30:50

and the 80s Celtics . Those

30:52

guys they just like I

30:54

don't know . It was like real competition . They all kind

30:56

of seemed like they hated each other . Where the

30:59

talk about the players today

31:01

is Because they're all nicey

31:04

, nicey . They all know each other because they've been

31:06

playing together since they were like eight

31:08

or nine years old in AAU . So

31:10

that was more . I think . My questions around AAU

31:13

is how much it's like

31:15

part of the culture of basketball

31:17

. Now , right , I think you kind of nailed

31:19

it .

31:21

This league was a union , was established

31:23

before the NBA .

31:25

It's cool , very cool . But you just kind

31:27

of nailed it , kayden , when you played in Massachusetts you

31:29

were doing it right Outside of just the regular

31:31

high school stuff . You're doing AAU

31:33

and you're doing it now , so

31:36

you're just going to naturally get to know guys

31:38

that you don't play high school with or

31:40

compete against , that are there in AAU

31:43

and other kind of areas and

31:45

you become friends right .

31:47

Exactly , you have to build relationships . I love how you said

31:49

culture . I love that man . Yeah

31:52

, I was . Just you could ask

31:54

them some stuff about winning time . If you want , I

31:56

had something for you . What do you know about Go

31:59

ahead ? Paul Caswell . What does he know about burb ? What does he know

32:01

about magic ?

32:03

Yeah , we don't need to get any time .

32:05

I'd much rather he knows who matters , I'd rather get into

32:07

the current events .

32:08

Man , yeah , exactly Like , do you

32:10

? I mean , I'm guessing , if you're a Hooper and

32:13

you want to go to college and then , eventually , the NBA

32:15

, you got to watch the NBA game , right

32:17

, yeah yeah , are you being from

32:19

Boston , you a Celtics guy ?

32:21

Of course I'm a all Boston

32:24

. He's from the South Shore , oh

32:26

right , I just want to make sure . Oh , our man , I knew

32:28

he moved to the Mid-West .

32:29

He's from the South .

32:29

Shore . When he was home , he was like I feel

32:31

at peace , I'm like this is where you're from , this is

32:33

your home , baby .

32:36

I didn't know , now that you live in Michigan , that you're like a Chris

32:38

Weber guy Learning

32:40

about the Fab Five at Michigan or something like

32:42

that . I don't know , man . No , you're all Boston

32:45

Of course , yeah . Okay .

32:47

I still watch the Celtics Pats Bruins

32:49

Red Sox whatever . The team they

32:52

have here . I watch it .

32:53

All right . What are you thinking about

32:55

this year's squad Now that they changed it up , got

32:57

rid of Marcus Smart and got poor

32:59

Zingas ? How you feeling about it , man ? I ?

33:01

don't know , I don't know why they didn't keep him . I

33:03

mean he was like he was a native

33:05

, like he's been here for a minute , like

33:08

ever since . I was like what . I

33:11

don't even know how young I was . I was like young , young

33:13

, he's been there since the start . So I mean

33:15

I feel like kind of trading

33:17

him was a wasn't a good

33:19

, good move for them , Because he's kind of like a leader

33:21

on defense , like he takes pride in his

33:23

defense and they already have scores . So I

33:26

think he played a huge role on the like

33:29

the defensive part for that team

33:31

and I mean Chris House for Zingas is pretty

33:33

good , but I mean I think at

33:35

the end of the day , you just needed to keep Marcus Smart

33:37

.

33:38

Man man you feel that ?

33:39

way . All right , you're

33:42

not a .

33:42

Derrick White guy huh , whoa

33:45

, whoa , whoa Whoa . This

33:48

interview is getting a little weird all of a sudden

33:50

.

33:50

I know , I told you .

33:52

Derrick White's , our guy man , I told you .

33:54

He has controversial feelings , which is good

33:56

, that's okay , he's not the only one that feels

33:58

that way . He doesn't not the only one .

34:01

I know , We'll see , you know .

34:02

I have my issues with this team . I'm not even going to get into

34:04

the green right now . I was more focused on the

34:06

big cat , on big seed .

34:07

So are you a ? Are you a Kings fan at all

34:09

? Because the Harrison Barnes and watching his games

34:11

a little bit , or just more how he plays as a player

34:14

.

34:14

Yeah , it's more . I kind of only watch him because

34:16

I can kind of relate my game to him or I kind

34:19

of try to pick up things that he does to

34:21

put in my game .

34:22

Yeah , so who would you say

34:24

is the number one ? I

34:26

know this is kind of a loaded question because everybody's got

34:28

a different skill set out there on the NBA , although

34:30

it seems like everybody jacks threes now , so

34:33

it's good that you have that in your game . But

34:35

who would you say , overall , is the number

34:37

one ? Best player in the NBA right now ?

34:39

Right now I probably have to say

34:41

honest . I mean honest

34:43

.

34:44

Going Greek .

34:45

Yeah , I love the Greek . I mean he's

34:47

got it all . I mean he can dribble now . His charge

34:49

is getting better . He's running . He runs

34:51

at dunk set , oh man .

34:52

All right .

34:53

Can't really stop that . I mean , he's a- .

34:55

I love his style of games . He's everywhere . He's long

34:57

and lean strong . I love his game yeah .

34:59

I mean I got to see him play in person too Nice

35:01

, Because I went to a Pacers versus a Milwaukee

35:04

game , so

35:06

it was cool to watch him play and kind

35:08

of see what he does . I mean he's booming on everybody

35:11

, oh yeah , and they couldn't really stop him on defense

35:13

or offense .

35:15

So oh , boston doesn't have a problem stopping

35:17

him , but that's another thing .

35:20

Sorry , Greek . One last question for you

35:22

on the NBA . What are your thoughts on the Miami

35:24

Heat ? Like that team at all . Not

35:28

really no , Sorry

35:30

, Ted .

35:31

Ted .

35:32

That was for my friend . We have like a die

35:34

hard , die hard he's a big Heat fan

35:37

and he's just waiting for them to

35:39

get Dame Lillard , Because that's been the big

35:41

talk in the off season and we just got

35:43

news today that they're not going to trade

35:45

him , so he's a little upset

35:47

about that If you could pronounce the guy's name

35:49

on Boston right now , I would be so impressed

35:52

.

35:52

Go ahead , paul Gaspar . I can't do it . I was

35:54

on YouTube but again I forgot , isn't it ?

35:56

Oh , I forgot about that . C C S V I Z

35:59

Z .

35:59

Oh , you got the first name , the last name's like

36:01

it's last names , like M Y H Z

36:04

T U V . Oh

36:06

, I got to pronounce that .

36:07

I think ever since Denver won

36:10

the championship , the Celtics said okay

36:12

, we got to get as many European players

36:14

as we can because of Yokecitch

36:16

.

36:17

Well , I'd like to say one thing about basketball

36:19

and the Europeans , the Joker

36:22

and Luca . Why are they so

36:24

good ? Let me tell you why Because

36:27

they slow down . They slow

36:29

down when everything's going fast

36:31

and everything's high speed and everything's got to

36:33

be down the court Quick . We're going to shoot the three . They

36:36

just slow the game down , play a little old

36:38

school Joker's more inside sometimes , but they

36:40

just slow it down and they look unathletic

36:42

, but they're not old . I think Luca's a good

36:44

athlete . I think they're both good athletes . They look

36:46

like they're not , but that's just

36:49

the way you got to do . You got to control the pace

36:51

of a game and slow it down and just throw people

36:53

off . They do that well and

36:56

I just want to make that point .

36:58

I'm a big believer that at the end of this season

37:00

we're all going to see that the best player

37:03

in the NBA is Jason Tatum .

37:05

Wee , let's go . What about

37:07

Jaylen Brown ? How

37:09

?

37:09

about that nice sidekick . He's gonna do great

37:11

this year . This is it , man

37:13

, this is the year season

37:16

two , just two murders

37:18

, talking hoops , this journey to June . I

37:20

already called it the end of season one . This

37:22

is the year they get over the hump , and I get what

37:25

you're saying about Marcus . We all

37:27

love Marcus . I love Marcus , but

37:30

I Feel like he might have been

37:32

a little bit of a cancer in the in the locker room

37:34

, and I think it was time that his voice

37:36

they didn't weren't listening to his voice anymore

37:38

and Fertigin to grow . They

37:40

need to get him out . I know it's tough for me to say

37:42

that , but I think getting

37:45

poor zingas . There's a big if , though . Poor zingas has

37:47

got to stay healthy . Obviously , if

37:49

poor zingas stays healthy , sir

37:51

, year man .

37:52

For us here .

37:54

We'll see .

37:56

It was a pretty good pickup in my opinion

37:58

. I mean they probably could have picked

38:00

something a little better , but I mean he'll

38:02

get the job done picking pop guy

38:05

right , he can go down low and he can shoot

38:07

the three .

38:08

He Marcus . I mean , we couldn't really rely on Marcus

38:10

for the three . He could shoot it , but

38:13

it just seems like whenever the game was on the line

38:15

, the ball found his hands and he was shooting

38:17

it , right , yes , anyway

38:20

this is awesome , we're gonna

38:22

wrap .

38:22

This has been a first I Real

38:25

Hooper .

38:26

Now we're gonna be following your journey , man

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, this is awesome .

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It's gonna really set off season two and a different

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for all of this journey where we are

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the two murders . I'm

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part of this guy .

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It's been great and this is awesome because

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it's gonna set see , this is our season two right

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, and it's gonna set it off a little different

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, where we're gonna be able to check in on your journey as we

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go along . So really excited

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for you , man . Good luck out there

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in Michigan this year . Man , just two mercy

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behind you .

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Yeah , baby , let's go .

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Well , obviously the way it's done here

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, as we get to our little

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outro out of the pod , the coach

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always takes us out . So , coach , take us out

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, man , in style , of course .

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Man , I woke up this morning , thank God

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I get some good sleep and I just

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I do my prayer meditation in the morning . I'm

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very open about my , my faith and my life

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and and I had the most

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amazing day today and I just kept

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it in the day . I started my day the

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right way . I went actually into

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the son before I saw him and

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did some stuff and drove down . It's had the best

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day ever , one of the best athletes

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I've ever worked with , you know , and

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we had and I was there . We just kept it in day , had fun

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. We're like big kids today and and

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that's it , man . It's helping one another , you

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know . You know , I'm proven . Each

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other improve and grow , you know

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, and even at 45 years

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old how old you know , 17 , 17

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, he's helping me grow . Iron sharpens

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iron , as one brother sharpens another .

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One more thing . One more thing shout out coach does

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and Grandville High School . We go to up this here .

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Let's go . Oh man

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, well , we check it out .

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Oh , double , double this going down

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peace , love and

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the green machine with

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the big See , the big cap

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.

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Yes , two mers talking hoops . We'll see

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you in two weeks , beginning of the season

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, we out .