0:10

What's up everybody . It's me

0:12

, anu here . Hi hi

0:14

, hello , hello , aloha , aloha , wherever you

0:16

are . I am so happy to

0:18

be here for the Just Keep Jamming podcast

0:21

, broadcasting live from my Peacock chair

0:23

in my living room , and I do a call on a

0:25

whitey . I have a room full

0:28

of Patreon people . Let's go . Patreon

0:30

people , can I get a whoopie

0:32

? Yep , they're dancing , they're having a blast

0:34

. I also have one very special

0:37

guest in the audience . His name is

0:39

Ian Young , who is my

0:41

old dear friend from a long time ago

0:43

. He's my special guest on the All

0:45

Is Bright tour . I can't wait to play with him

0:47

. How you feeling , ian ?

0:49

I'm doing great . Thank you for having me here . This is

0:51

a pleasure .

0:53

Thank you . So we

0:55

have a little protocol with me , like to get started

0:57

just to kind of loosen mostly me up

1:00

, because sometimes that can be a rambling weirdo

1:02

. I love wine and

1:05

we have a wine of the week , so if

1:07

anyone has the visual you can

1:09

see that this is called Beringe

1:13

Gebros Bourbon Barrel

1:15

, aged Again with the Bourbon Barrel . We had

1:17

one like that last time Cabernet Sauvignon

1:19

. I got this one from

1:21

, not the gas station . This time

1:23

a little bit fancier than that . It's pretty bold

1:26

. It's medium between smooth and tonic

1:28

. On the dry side has hints

1:30

of oak , vanilla and chocolate . I

1:34

don't know , I can never really tell the difference

1:36

between those kinds

1:38

of flavors . I can just tell if it's like tonic

1:41

or dry . But some people can like

1:43

identify . I'm like yeah , it was raining

1:45

a lot that year or whatever . Like that's incredible

1:47

. But if anyone's drinking , cheers

1:50

to you . Mahalo , ian , for being here .

1:53

Yeah , salut .

1:55

Okay , so let's get started

1:58

and let's get rocking . Let's talk about

2:00

how we know each other . Do you remember

2:03

how we met ?

2:05

Yeah , but I think it's before you

2:07

remember .

2:09

Yeah , on the tour .

2:10

Okay , cool , no no no , no , no , no , no , no , no

2:12

, no , no , no , no , no . Before that . What

2:14

do you mean ? We backed you before that

2:17

.

2:17

I don't know , tell me yeah at

2:19

a festival in Santa Barbara

2:22

.

2:23

Oh , my god , the twin brothers .

2:25

Yes , the twins . I never met you before and

2:27

that was my first introduction . I never even

2:29

met you . You just walked on stage , but

2:31

we stranger backed you . So this was a

2:34

long time ago .

2:34

This was 2000 being maybe seven

2:36

, six or seven . Yeah , oh

2:39

my god . And then ?

2:40

two years later we went on tour together with

2:42

the Green and Stranger my band , same

2:44

band , so yeah .

2:45

Yeah , that was so freaking cool , but I

2:47

was definitely nervous because I hadn't even met you

2:49

guys , you guys , had heard a couple of my songs and had

2:51

to learn them on your own . God bless you .

2:54

We didn't even talk before the set , it was just played

2:56

it . I think you played like five songs , eight and out

2:58

like 30 minutes set or something quick .

3:00

But that was instant , instant

3:02

kinship . And then , yeah

3:04

, and then our friend from surf roots , dave

3:07

. We

3:09

love our boy Dave . He's everywhere . But

3:11

yeah , he invited myself , the Green

3:13

and Stranger , it was just us three . Oh , remember

3:15

, it was those two guys , tamarama .

3:18

Oh , yeah , yeah from Australia .

3:20

Australia .

3:20

That was great . That was a fun tour .

3:23

Yeah , and we earned our well . I earned my stripes

3:25

on that tour just as far as like paying our dues

3:28

.

3:28

Yeah , we were hustling . There were some big crowds , though

3:30

there were some crowds that were good , you know that went off

3:32

because the Green was just starting to come up and you

3:34

were definitely doing it . It was good , and I

3:37

remember seeing you a couple years later , in 2012

3:39

. You played at the Aloha Tower and

3:41

I played also and it was the first

3:43

time me playing on the islands personally

3:45

, not Stranger , just solo . So , 2012 , I had

3:47

just released my first record and

3:49

the stepas were backing me . I don't think we even

3:51

connected that night , but I went to check your set

3:54

and I was on the side , and Hawaiians

3:56

know how to celebrate and know how to step

3:58

it up when it's a show and the vibes are on

4:00

. This was amazing to experience

4:03

because I just walked into , like you

4:06

in the center . I don't even know if your feet were touching

4:08

, you were like floating center and every all

4:10

the cameras were out and you had just gone on stage

4:12

. It was incredible and I was like , oh , this is

4:14

the vibe , like because we kind

4:16

of missed that on the first tour because we were younger

4:18

, this was a cut . This was four or five years later , you know

4:20

, and it was a fat crowd

4:23

and it was amazing . I remember everything . You damn

4:26

. This girl's flying right now .

4:28

I love that visual . That's a super

4:30

cool visual .

4:31

It was dope . It was a dope experience .

4:34

It was the first time .

4:35

I played in the islands too , so it was that energy . I

4:37

played main stage Aloha

4:39

Tower . That was crazy . I just got it and I don't know how that

4:41

happened .

4:42

But how did you connect with the stepas ? You just

4:44

met them on the internet .

4:47

Yeah , I was talking to them for years and then I

4:50

think Kino had Link with Star or something and

4:52

good friends with Big Mountain , with Kino

4:54

, and so I linked up

4:56

with Star and then he

4:58

had invited me and he just said he

5:00

would back me . They were like yeah , yeah , we'll do it . So , yeah

5:03

, he's amazing , but I got his back for

5:05

life , star .

5:07

How did Ovaet you receive you ?

5:09

It's always been incredible . Honestly , I've always been

5:11

treated very , very well on the island , so

5:13

it's always Aloha vibes and , yeah

5:15

, the energy is strong there , so I love

5:17

it Absolutely .

5:18

I love it Right on . Thanks for sharing

5:20

all of that . I want to hear a little bit more about before

5:22

that . Like , tell me about young Ian

5:25

Young , when you were just a little boy

5:27

before the dreadlocks were touching

5:29

the floor , tell us .

5:31

Yeah , I grew up in Chula Vista , which

5:33

is I live right now in Imperial Beach

5:35

, and this is the most southwest , southwest

5:38

corner in the US , so I border Mexico

5:40

and Pacific Ocean . So we live right

5:42

here , like right , I can see the border from my house . And

5:45

so I grew up in Chula Vista , just like five minutes east

5:48

a little bit , and my parents got

5:50

me into piano at a young age . They

5:52

got me piano lessons and that was

5:54

the biggest blessing because it's been with

5:56

me ever since , at five years old . So

5:58

and I didn't come from a musical family at all , none of

6:00

them really played instruments . They threw me in lessons

6:02

and I liked it right away and so I

6:05

just continued lessons my basically

6:07

through high school , like long time off

6:09

and on . You know , I would quit for a couple years and always

6:11

came back . I always loved it . So , yeah

6:13

, I was just a crazy energetic kid bouncing

6:16

off the walls and loving

6:18

life . I have two sisters .

6:20

I know I met one of them and I met your awesome parents

6:22

.

6:22

Yeah , during that tour

6:24

my family was coming around , so you got

6:27

to know them well .

6:27

So did you like reggae

6:29

music ? Like what kind of music ?

6:31

Yeah , so at 13 years

6:33

old I liked everything , growing up Like

6:35

I liked punk , rock and

6:38

metal and even everything that was

6:40

on the radio mainstream . I like a lot of different type

6:42

of music , but at 13 years

6:44

old I was still finding myself , you know , the young

6:46

adult , basically teenager . My friend

6:48

gave me a tape and it was a mixed tape and the first

6:50

song was Don Carlos and then it

6:52

was Bob Marley , belly Fool , it was like some

6:54

Barrington and a bunch of different songs

6:56

and it was incredible , you know , johnny Osborn

6:59

and things . What they were speaking about just

7:01

resonated with me . For some reason it's spiritually

7:03

just connected with me . I went to a Catholic school so

7:05

very spiritually , you could hear my music , you

7:07

know , on a spiritual tip and it roots

7:09

from a young age . But yeah , so reggae music just

7:11

spoke to me like the words they were talking and

7:14

you know , about unity and peace , love and standing up

7:16

for rights and just everything that

7:19

it had on that first tape . It

7:21

like meditation and it just it took me

7:23

. I was like , oh yo , this is something special

7:25

. I remember I had a little yellow tape and I would

7:27

take it everywhere with that one tape that I had

7:29

for like three months , so I would take it everywhere

7:31

, you know , like a real tape yes . Yeah , back in the

7:34

day . So , um , oh my god . And then after that

7:36

I started getting more tapes and my brother

7:38

started loving it too and we started

7:40

going . Our parents took us to the

7:42

vinyl shop and and where they had

7:44

straight , it was a reggae shop like roots

7:46

and culture shop , trade roots it was called in

7:48

San Diego , and they waited

7:51

in the car while we went in and , like looked

7:53

for our first vinyl and the the old bingy

7:55

rasta man had dreads tied up

7:58

. Elliot looked at us and you like reggae

8:00

and yeah , you should try this , try

8:02

this . I only have one tape . He came out with some

8:04

CDs check this mix CD , check this

8:06

mix CD , you know . And so after that it was

8:08

on , we were going all the time just trying to find

8:10

, you know , a new song that we like . We like that minor

8:13

, dark kind of 80s , late 70s for the

8:15

80s vibe , yeah . So

8:17

, um , yeah .

8:19

I love that . I love who you said . Minor dark , like

8:21

it's R&B reggae , like I love that

8:23

too , the emo , I call it evil .

8:25

I'm just mean like emotional , like yeah , emotional

8:28

for me was just rude to . It's like Yo

8:30

, what is this ? I write when hits are like

8:32

this is murder , like what is this ? You know so and

8:34

no and what they were speaking about in everything . It

8:37

really took me and so we just were

8:39

hardcore into it , like my brother collecting vinyl

8:42

, and then when we got of age , like 17

8:44

, linking up , trying to go to shows and and

8:47

trying to link up with like find more about roots

8:49

and culture , reggae music . It's been such a good foundation

8:51

and I'm so grateful for this truth . And I

8:53

know you have a similar , coming from Hawaii . I know it's a similar

8:55

vibe there , like because they say San Diego

8:58

is the roots capital . Yeah , have you heard them say

9:00

that ?

9:00

That's cool .

9:01

I believe it any vinyl collectors we have the biggest

9:03

like community and anyway . So a place that's

9:05

similar is like the islands , like a wahoo

9:07

, but all the islands basically you know . So

9:09

it's a similar energy . Where you come from , I hear

9:11

you talking about you know red , gold and green and

9:13

and all your songs , like you always had like

9:15

a little rasta swag , like the whole time little

9:18

one , I'm

9:22

like , I'm like Taylor Swift , swift with like

9:24

joint .

9:29

But that's so cool . I love hearing that . So

9:31

you are a producer as well

9:33

as a solo artist . You're part of bands

9:35

. How did you get your producing skills

9:38

? I mean , I see you're in your studio right now

9:40

, yeah yep .

9:41

So at 17 years old I

9:44

got in a program when

9:46

they hook up internships for young kids

9:48

. My grandfather told me like what

9:50

do you want to get into ? I want to donate something towards

9:52

your education , you know . So it was half the

9:54

time of internship and half the time where they teach you and

9:56

you study . This program I'm speaking of I found

9:58

it in a magazine like a modern music magazine

10:01

, and Got an internship

10:03

here in San Diego . I remember I made the phone

10:05

calls and everything . 17 went into my first

10:07

studio and it changed my life . My

10:10

teacher was real humble and

10:12

very knowledgeable and would let me make my

10:14

own music . So I brought my keyboard in and he would like

10:16

okay , we got 20 minutes , what do you want to do ? And

10:18

I had my keyboard and we would sequence music

10:21

and I record vocals on it and I brought

10:23

my Live drums in a few times and before

10:25

computers it was a debt , so

10:27

it's tape . Oh yeah

10:29

. So right before , right before the computers

10:32

took over . But yeah , it was incredible . So from

10:34

there I I went to college and went

10:36

to computers and music and kept studying . And then

10:39

was with my band stranger roots covenant

10:41

and we were all getting into Pro Tools and

10:43

so yeah , just started

10:45

there . And then I just really buckled down and

10:47

and wanted to create my own records . And

10:49

three years before I came out with my album

10:51

I started getting good

10:54

. And then , uh-huh , once I released

10:56

my record , then a lot of people hit me up . Tribal seeds

10:58

hit me up right away . I was like I want this , the

11:00

record , to sound like yours , like this . So we

11:02

went in the studio , recorded and , after work with them

11:04

, a lot More people and it's just been flooded ever

11:06

since . It's just I've never had to really advertise

11:09

, it's just Producing has came in

11:11

.

11:11

I'm waiting in line now .

11:13

I really am so it's it really

11:15

the experience that that

11:17

gave me all this like experience

11:20

is the biggest teacher . So it was a knowledge

11:22

and success , and all that was

11:24

was from this

11:27

experience I had , and I don't know that I just fell into

11:29

it . I definitely didn't fall into it , but certain

11:31

things need to happen . You know , in a spiritual sense

11:33

, like things need to work out and

11:35

they need to flow , and once you , if

11:38

you put it out there and you know the , the

11:40

path reveals itself . I just walked down it and

11:42

here I am , you know , years later . It's been great .

11:44

I love it . I love it so much . I

11:47

love . I think the word that sticks out to me when you're talking

11:49

about your past is is just foundation , like

11:51

having a strong foundation . You learned

11:53

about vinyl records

11:55

and tapes from your yellow cassette

11:58

tape . You with the internship . Like you

12:00

made that foundation , somebody didn't hand it to you . You

12:02

had to go and get it and that just

12:04

shows that why you're still doing what you're doing

12:07

.

12:07

Is this your full-time job ? Yeah , sure

12:09

, oh , hell . Yeah , it's been for years

12:11

. Yeah , the last , the last job I

12:13

had , I was a Brewer for

12:15

Carl Strauss you have the coolest

12:17

two jobs in the world . Carl .

12:19

Strauss and music maker . You

12:22

didn't have to work at McDonald's or Music's

12:26

, definitely it .

12:26

Music's the one though . That's awesome

12:29

music is healing to us all . You

12:31

know it's such a special thing and such a gift

12:33

to be like the conductor of it at times . You know it's

12:35

incredible .

12:36

I can't wait to work with you .

12:38

I see your moving frequencies on stage

12:40

. You're the vibes you know . You're

12:43

like a magician out there . I see it , it's awesome

12:45

.

12:46

So if you had to choose maybe one favorite

12:48

concert you've ever attended and

12:51

you can't say mine , I'm just kidding , okay

12:53

.

12:53

I'll say the most recent one was seeing

12:55

Burning Spear . Burning Spear in

12:57

San Diego , oh my god , the legend

12:59

yeah , so Burning Spear is a legend hasn't

13:01

toured for years . I remember

13:03

the Harry Belafonte concert

13:06

when I was five years old . You know the song yeah

13:08

me , so damn me , so damn me

13:10

, so damn me , so damn you know it'll juice . Yes

13:12

, yeah , yeah , he'll do style so that guy is named

13:14

Harry Harry Belafonte .

13:16

Oh , he just passed away recently , right ? I

13:18

remember that yeah . I didn't

13:20

even know that Wow . Jerry said yeah

13:22

, I saw it on Good Morning America . Oh

13:24

wow .

13:25

But you saw him when you were five years old . Oh yeah

13:27

, I still . I still remember it was at Humphreys

13:29

on the Bay . I'm sure you've played there .

13:31

Yeah , we should do have

13:33

, as anyone done , like a , like a modern

13:36

version of that . Even

13:41

like come miss that . Oh , let's

13:43

do that one . Oh , let's do

13:45

that one .

13:47

Yeah , and .

13:47

I'm just on stage on this tour because

13:50

we need to come up . Okay in front of , in front

13:52

of everyone's very eyes . I was hoping Ian

13:54

and I could work out some things about

13:56

the tour .

13:57

You know like creative we haven't figured out

13:59

what , what's , what song we're playing . Let's

14:02

do this .

14:02

We haven't even spoken , guys . We've arranged

14:04

this entire tour via text , because

14:07

I'm a texture but that . But we're friends

14:09

, so Make it happen and text

14:11

is efficient , because sometimes I need to refer back

14:13

to what the hell I said . And

14:16

yeah , but I'm just a maze

14:18

.

14:19

Little birds , all right , three little birds

14:21

. Who said that ?

14:25

Jerry . I'm

14:30

sorry , so it's becoming like a little

14:32

bit of a joke . It's like free bird

14:34

. Like it's like the purse , the drunk guy at the end of the night

14:36

, like Like three little

14:38

birds catch a fire , start started that whole

14:40

movement , yeah . Yeah , and then

14:42

Kimi a guys , kimi a , who's also

14:44

gonna be on our first . She showed she did a Hawaiian

14:46

version . She produced a Hawaiian version with the green

14:48

singing it in Hawaiian . So now there's a big version

14:51

. But that's

14:53

a easy , easy option .

14:54

We could do that on the first three . Are you singing

14:56

Christmas songs ?

14:58

So that was another thing I needed to talk to you about . I

15:00

wanted to see if you even celebrate Christmas

15:02

. First of all , because it is called the all is

15:04

bright holiday tour Doesn't necessarily

15:07

have to be Christmas songs like I celebrate

15:09

. We . I sing a few , like

15:11

I did , I do like three and Kimi is

15:13

probably gonna do two . We just just

15:15

recorded and it's gonna be released on December 1st

15:17

our holiday song called red golden

15:20

green .

15:20

It's like a reggae one .

15:21

It's just more like good vibes , like red

15:23

represents our hearts and so

15:25

yeah . But if you have a Christmas song

15:27

, do you have one in mind ?

15:29

I have no Christmas songs on my set . Okay

15:31

, okay , okay strictly roots and

15:33

I got a small set , so I'm just going

15:35

for it .

15:37

Okay , let's figure that out . Then I think we

15:39

can do like a , like a

15:41

collaborative Christmas song . At the

15:43

end that's like a fun one . But that

15:45

may be more of a reggae style , like maybe red

15:47

, golden green , we bring you up halfway through and

15:49

you can do like a little solo . But I

15:51

want to hear your voice . Like he's very

15:53

known Everybody for his melodica

15:56

, because it's just such a cool like visual

15:58

. Do you guys know what that is ? Right , it's like a little keyboard

16:01

horn . I don't know how would you explain it ?

16:09

Melodica .

16:11

Badass and it's so easy to transport he

16:13

can just jump up with like any band , like oh

16:15

, you want Melodica . Like fuck , yeah , we want Melodica .

16:17

I've probably pushed the stage with you a few times

16:19

I apologize .

16:20

I love when you put the stage no

16:22

, let me .

16:23

Let me tell you guys , she was playing Cali

16:25

, cali roots 11 . I think it was the second Cali

16:27

roots ever for the flows like three years

16:29

. I would just jump on stage with everyone , I would just walk

16:31

up and jump on , even if they're like give me a stink face

16:33

. I would still do that . I don't know it's

16:35

like . I was like I

16:37

was flying . At that point I wasn't really the most cut

16:40

my conscious self , so I was just running , jumping on

16:42

stage and then I was on the side with you and I was

16:44

like , oh , I gotta go , I

16:47

gotta go . And I just waited for the perfect song and I just

16:49

rolled up and I was like I don't know if I

16:51

stepping on your toes .

16:52

It was honestly amazing , but I just I

16:54

never said Did I have like a bit

16:56

a Jamaican band at the time Was

16:58

it a bunch of .

16:59

Yeah , you had some of the members from midnight

17:01

. No , they're sitting in Croy .

17:03

Well , they played with certain amazing bar of

17:05

virgin islands and Jamaica . Um

17:08

, yeah , it was . It was Mishka's band

17:10

and we were sharing a band . We're on the olukai

17:13

tour and that was like a cool because we were able to

17:15

afford a bus , because olukai sponsored

17:17

us , and so we were like running off of no sleep

17:19

. Roll on to the stage

17:21

. I'm like yeah , and like there's my boy , but all these

17:23

. Jamaicans probably didn't know who are . Like fuck , but

17:26

it's all good .

17:26

Like you were the freaking man . I don't

17:28

even remember it , but I couldn't , though some of those musicians

17:31

are . We're from the same Croy and

17:33

and they're they back to midnight

17:35

von Benjamin . He's from acapeka

17:37

, but just like a super hard

17:39

roots band , and then I saw them with

17:41

you . I was like what ?

17:42

this is crazy . I didn't , I was not worthy

17:44

, but they taught my bass

17:46

player at the time a lot about how to play

17:49

reggae bass properly , like just

17:51

the difference , and I think it added that edge to

17:54

our live . My live performance in that era

17:56

and I'm appreciative

17:58

of what I learned like yeah

18:01

, I humbled me for sure , like I thought , but

18:03

we have a whole different type of reggae in Hawaii

18:05

which we should honor , but that's maybe

18:07

the more original Roots vibes and

18:09

I love that probably the most .

18:12

But outside of Jamaica , who ? Hawaii , all

18:14

of the islands have have the foundation

18:17

of the roots music .

18:18

Yeah , there's so many different

18:20

dialects of it , like of like a language

18:23

, right , like there's so many different . There's the East Coast Reggae

18:25

, there's this the . The Southern

18:27

Carolina is like chopadelic , I

18:29

don't know what kind that'd be , like the East Coast California

18:32

or something . Then , of course , there's Hawaii

18:34

, and then there's Guam , which I just came from

18:37

. They have their own type of Chris

18:39

Boomer and For peace band

18:42

and so many amazing artists on there too

18:44

. Have you been ? To Guam first real

18:46

fast .

18:47

Yeah , I played on Guam I

18:51

can't remember if it was with you

18:53

or Kimie . When I went with Tribal

18:55

Seeds , it was like yeah , I think it was ? I

18:57

think it was Kimie Kimie . So I went with Tribal Seeds

18:59

once and then I went with Stranger once back in the

19:01

day and it was awesome . Bless , like I

19:03

was treated so well is incredible , like

19:08

from the airport through the

19:10

whole trip , incredible exactly

19:12

. I love Guam with all

19:14

my heart .

19:16

Shout out to Frankie and the entire People

19:19

who just brought us out . Frankie and the entire

19:22

Beyond the Reef crew , we love you and

19:24

continue to bring us out . We love

19:26

, we love visiting you guys as

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19:54

Okay intern .

19:57

Everybody in the zoom room . We talk about this because these

19:59

are like all these people are like my

20:01

family . We've gone through everything together

20:03

. We're like therapy sessions together and

20:05

so they know , like Anu , you need to learn

20:07

how to ask for help when you need it . I'm

20:09

like so hard

20:12

Anyway .

20:14

Thank you , thank you guys , for supporting my friend . You

20:16

guys are amazing , appreciate that .

20:18

Thank you she speaks highly .

20:20

Look at , she's speaking about you , oh .

20:23

I want to , um , I want to ask you this

20:25

kind of a good little segue , just as far as

20:27

like what the what the intention of

20:29

this podcast is . For so

20:31

many of us , mental health

20:33

is a thing that only

20:36

like within the past few years , I believe

20:38

, is really been in the forefront of people's

20:40

conversations , I feel , like more since the

20:42

pandemic and then with with

20:44

men , maybe even within

20:46

the reggae community , like you , maybe be able

20:48

to sing your emotions , but just to be able to talk

20:50

to them , talk them out , um , how

20:53

how do you , how do you deal

20:55

with stress ? How do you deal with , maybe , any

20:57

Anxieties ? If you have any sort of mental

20:59

health things you want to share ?

21:02

It's been a , it's been a journey for me . You

21:04

know it has in . This human

21:07

experience is a wild one , you know , and , like I said

21:09

, I'm on a real spiritual tip

21:11

, but it's just , it

21:13

doesn't make it any easier , like you're still

21:15

going through all the mental chatter

21:18

and things that we all go

21:20

through . And so

21:22

, yeah , I've been through , I've

21:24

been through some things , for sure , and I

21:26

feel like I made it out on the other side just recently

21:29

. I'm feeling more confident

21:31

in my own skin and and just , yeah

21:34

, just moving through this human experience , like

21:36

so , yeah , but yeah

21:38

, I've definitely been through some things . And how do I do it ? Um

21:41

, I think , just some of the things that I've learned

21:43

, like Just , staying

21:45

positive , yeah , tools , basically

21:47

staying positive Right

21:49

now . Like how can I make myself Feel

21:52

good right now , like this exact second

21:54

, like not , how can I play a good

21:57

show on Friday or how can I do

21:59

this thing ? I , this challenge I gotta

22:01

do it's how do I feel good right now ? And

22:03

I feel like , once you , everything in life I think

22:06

stacks or like cycles , or like vibrates

22:08

, so the frequencies get higher . But once

22:10

you feel how to , like I'm gonna take

22:13

a sip out of my drink and like , oh , it's warm

22:15

and I can taste some of the

22:17

Alcohol . It's amazing . This

22:19

is great . I'm on with lovely people . You

22:21

know , just small things thoughts can

22:24

get me going , you know , and that can lead to the

22:26

next thing and I feel like that's

22:29

, that's

22:31

really . That kind of process has really helped

22:33

me , because before it was

22:35

like I wasn't so conscious and then , when

22:38

I started waking up and being more conscious out

22:40

feel like it's a couple years back . I just let

22:43

everything get to me , like social media and the chatter

22:45

comparing myself , like myself telling

22:47

me it needs to be a certain standard

22:50

to put , like release music

22:52

, even to be who I am , to go on camera

22:54

, have to be like a certain standard and Just

22:56

feeling , you know , and I don't feel like I

22:59

feel like I was just choosing those things , because

23:01

in the human experience , I feel like it

23:03

could be anything like we're wired , like that we're

23:05

wired so we have to . There's

23:08

something gonna affect us , you know

23:10

, and so I feel like I I

23:12

went through some

23:14

things and and learned these

23:16

processes , you know , to really just be happy

23:19

in the moment , like just choose , choose

23:21

to enjoy one thing , like just

23:23

the air on me . Okay , this is .

23:26

I'm alive .

23:26

Next , next thing , next , thing , next thing . And

23:29

if you stack those things by the you

23:31

know , a couple hours later You're like I'm flying high

23:33

right now because I allowed

23:35

myself to go . You know , instead of

23:37

letting this thing knock me down , I'm just like

23:39

no , no , focus on the positive energy .

23:41

So present in the moment . That's something

23:43

I learned when I went to this like Holistic

23:46

. It was a rehab

23:48

facility but it wasn't for only

23:50

like drug people , even though it was . There was

23:52

some drugies in there . Mine was for a freaking mental

23:55

breakdown , like and I had never

23:57

Done therapy . I had

23:59

never , like taken medication

24:01

or meditated . I did yoga from

24:03

time to time but there was no self-care . But

24:05

I got to learn some words to

24:08

be able to communicate my feelings

24:10

a little better , and that , that

24:13

, what you're describing , reminds me of the word

24:15

that I learned there , which was like being present in

24:17

the moment , which was was my

24:19

inspiration behind part of the song

24:21

that I wrote called just keep jamming where

24:23

I go , don't worry about the road ahead or

24:25

think about the past behind you . Like , just

24:28

stay in your little cute little bubble and

24:30

play your song . Like right now you're playing

24:32

a song , sing it like if you feel

24:34

protected in that moment . You can deal

24:36

with it in just a moment . But with every second

24:38

that goes by , you're building more strength

24:41

to be able to deal with whatever that you

24:44

know obstacle might be right , like in front of

24:46

you , and it's just so empowering . It's

24:48

like you're like building Strength .

24:50

Yeah , very true . And when you stay , when

24:52

you're in that presence , you Not

24:55

only do you appreciate more , but you see

24:57

more like I feel like if I'm in that positive energy

24:59

, I'm seeing the things that

25:02

I can be grateful , rather than when I'm in negative

25:04

state I'm not seeing anything . So , you

25:06

know , except but the , the chat , or hearing the chatter

25:08

or scrolling , and I'm like I like it . You know me going

25:11

, yeah , so To

25:13

me and the comparing factor .

25:15

It's interesting for me to hear that like because

25:17

I actually just posted something today . I don't know

25:19

if you you saw that , but today is like

25:21

this fateful day for so

25:23

many Spotify Listeners and artists

25:26

. Like it's the Spotify wrapped

25:28

release day and it's where people

25:30

can like , brag about how many Likes

25:33

or whatever they got , and like there's all

25:35

these memes about like no one cares

25:37

about your likes or you know , like there's

25:39

funny , like haters , but it's

25:41

just , it's funny because we you

25:44

know the most of us we do Care

25:46

. I wish I didn't , because

25:48

it does mean like something about your livelihood

25:50

and all of that . But my whole perspective

25:53

on my shirt is because , like I didn't release

25:55

anything new this year . I wanted to

25:57

. I probably should have , but I couldn't

25:59

bring myself to do that and I felt

26:01

bad about it . But then , after all

26:03

of these tools , I realized I

26:05

don't need to feel bad if I wasn't ready . It's fine

26:08

. I'm living my path in my journey

26:10

on no one else's timeline . Do you feel kind

26:12

of like you're on your own path

26:14

or do you feel controlled by what you see on

26:16

social media ever ?

26:18

Yeah , I definitely . I see

26:20

the quality that people are coming out with and I think

26:22

I just have thought before like

26:24

I'm not aggressively going

26:26

down the road of releasing content

26:28

and releasing music because

26:31

I wanted to be a certain standard and

26:33

the thing is I'm already in that standard . I'm

26:35

just comparing myself to others and it's

26:38

it's . It's like a subconscious thing too

26:40

, because it's not like right , it was like , oh my gosh , I can't

26:42

believe that person . I want to be like that . It's not like that

26:44

, it's just not . I feel like in my subconscious

26:47

, you know and so , but yeah , but

26:49

I feel like During 2020

26:51

, I feel , or during Kobe , I feel

26:53

like I was consuming a lot , like I was taking

26:55

a lot of things in , either trying

26:58

to you know better my way

27:00

, better certain things that I do in my life I

27:02

was just ingesting a lot of content and

27:04

I feel like At that time

27:06

I wasn't balanced

27:08

fully . You know , I wasn't

27:10

meditating , I wasn't like having

27:12

these practices that I talk about , and I've

27:16

always kind of had anxiety and

27:19

my anxiety is like the panic version where

27:21

I'm just like can't move , like want

27:23

to fall on the floor and can't breathe , kind of

27:25

thing .

27:25

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

27:27

And anxiety so , and I feel like it gets me when

27:29

I'm out of balance , you know , and it

27:31

gets me and it doesn't happen too

27:33

often , but during that time I started getting it a lot

27:35

frequently , you know , and I was like what ?

27:37

And your body's telling you . That's your body reacting

27:39

to something in your mind right , exactly

27:42

.

27:43

So I just started facing more

27:45

of it and my sister

27:47

was seeing a therapist and she's

27:49

like she's amazing , you should talk to her . And so I

27:51

would have meetings with her once a week

27:53

and it wasn't the thing that

27:56

changed me , but it was just like I was focusing

27:58

on me and to talk about me was good . I felt

28:00

like it helped me a lot and

28:02

she set me . I faced

28:04

a lot of things that happened in my life , like

28:06

with family and things that traumas

28:08

that happened throughout my life , and I faced a lot of them

28:11

and I feel like at that

28:13

time , at that point , I started understanding

28:15

that it's there and I started meditating

28:17

and I kind of got through it . So I had a Alistar

28:21

Faray is a guitarist , a guitarist

28:23

here in the States . He's a legend

28:25

playing guitar , but he was telling me how he meditates every day and

28:28

meditate every day . Also , my friend

28:30

Don I both of them were telling me about meditation , meditation

28:33

to meditate . So I started meditating , at

28:35

first for seven minutes a day . I would put

28:37

frequencies on

28:39

and I would meditate for seven minutes

28:41

outside and it really changed

28:43

me . I did that every single day for maybe

28:45

three months and it really got me and so that

28:48

and I was facing all these things and I feel like

28:50

I made it to a really good point . And then I

28:52

started getting to the point where this

28:54

process started . I started listening to Abraham

28:56

Hicks . Have you ever heard of that ? No

28:59

, it's down a rabbit hole . It's pretty deep If

29:01

you get into it . It's like I'll

29:03

keep this brief and I was just taking it from

29:05

it and I don't , because life is . I

29:07

feel like this life is so mysterious

29:10

and there's just so much we want to know about aliens

29:12

and God and where we're going

29:14

after . We want to know all about all of it

29:16

and it's just it's such

29:19

a mystery . But you feel like

29:21

you feel the connection and you feel that it's

29:23

meant to be Like . I know every human feels

29:25

this at times . I started listening to this

29:27

Abraham Hicks , and I'll be quick when

29:29

I say this , but it's the woman that

29:32

has learned how to channel her

29:34

higher spirits or something , and she talks

29:36

as it's these collective spirits

29:39

and she becomes him and speaks . I know

29:41

it sounds crazy . Look into it , though .

29:43

Her name is Esther Hicks , but she

29:45

is a channeled and now she's Abraham

29:47

Hicks . I'm quickly just gonna go through .

29:49

She channels it , she'll be like let me go into it , and she

29:51

like comes out and she's like speaking . Anyways

29:53

, the things that she says are so spot

29:55

on and it's so trippy , and

29:58

you know it's . And it just got me to the point where

30:00

that process , where it's like get your frequencies

30:02

turning up to positive , and it starts

30:05

with like waking up and batting

30:07

away the negative and saying I'm gonna

30:09

have a good day today , like look , my

30:11

legs are feeling good today . Or I can stand

30:13

like oh , I'm gonna brush my teeth and enjoy this

30:15

, or whatever . You know , let's have breakfast and really

30:17

enjoy it , you know . And it just stacks on top of each

30:19

other . So I feel like now that I've gone

30:21

through that whole thing and I came out on the other side

30:23

, I feel a lot more

30:25

in control and I feel more

30:27

confident in my own skin and I feel like this just happened

30:30

. Like you said no releases for a year . I'm

30:32

sitting on a catalog , like I have so much

30:35

music and I have not released any of it . And

30:37

I feel like I've been using excuses like , oh

30:40

, cause I'm getting , I'm producing for a lot of artists

30:42

that like , oh , they need me , so let me not do

30:44

my own music , you know . But yeah

30:46

, so I feel more confident to

30:48

I love being with people but be on camera and release

30:50

music and I'm just feeling like I'm getting out of it now

30:52

. And well , I have been for a while and it

30:55

never leaves me that I love playing music

30:57

and I want to be just

30:59

connecting with people with music and I love to perform

31:02

on stage and that will never leave me . So I've

31:04

been touring a lot and- .

31:05

So you've been playing your own

31:07

music on tour , yeah , for a while , I

31:10

mean like nonstop .

31:11

Yeah , cause I have four albums out and

31:13

a lot of catalog , and yeah , so I've been . I have

31:15

plenty of my sets . Pretty nice

31:18

, I would say .

31:18

Well , I want to hear your new set . Is what

31:20

? That's why I was just like what happens ? I'm releasing .

31:22

the first song is Friday . I'm releasing

31:24

a song with Royal Blue from Jamaica and it's

31:27

a song I was sitting on for a while and I reached out to him

31:29

and he murdered a verse on it and

31:31

come with fire .

31:33

What ? Yeah A title Like

31:35

I want to get that tattooed on my ribs or something

31:37

. Yeah , that's

31:41

so sick . What

31:44

was I going to say , how ? One more

31:46

just quick tip for all these

31:48

people wondering out there how do you , what's

31:52

your strategy on going about getting these

31:55

collaborations ? You have some sick ones

31:57

and I'm always scared to call someone

31:59

or ask . I'm like so in my own head and

32:01

I create every reason why not ? To ask someone

32:04

to collaborate musically

32:06

with me . Even I was like I'm not worthy . How

32:08

do you , what's your strategy ? What do you do

32:10

? How do you hype yourself up ? Do you need to ?

32:12

I'm going to say the strategy , but it

32:14

hasn't worked . In the case that I've been envisioning

32:16

doing a song with you since like 2009

32:20

. I remember the apartment where I was in when I first

32:22

started producing and I wrote this song

32:24

check it . It's called Love , love , love and it was

32:26

in a kind of style that you did . It's called Love

32:28

, love , love and I was like , oh , anuhei would be great

32:30

on this song , you know . And then I never connected

32:33

with you and still all these years I haven't . So this

32:35

was the first time that I asked for anything , but

32:37

I'm glad I did .

32:38

You heard it here first , folks .

32:40

Love .

32:40

Love , Love Coming out soon .

32:42

I think we have to take shots , Like you said . We

32:44

have to ask for things , we have to get it up and grab this

32:46

life . You know it's a short life and I feel like we have

32:48

to just make moves or else it's going to pass us by

32:50

, you know . So if you're on the fence with something

32:52

, just go for it . Like I would just go for it . But

32:55

, yeah , same way as I hit you up for the tour , same way as I hit

32:57

up , you know , tribal Seeds to

32:59

join the band that did launch my career a lot

33:02

and you know what . Same way as I hit

33:04

up the brewery to start brewing and hit

33:06

up Royal Blue as my new single , like

33:09

you just got to do it , you know , and I'm getting

33:11

more comfortable because there's going to be a lot of notes . There's

33:13

always going to be notes , like notes are going to happen . You

33:15

have to just be able to be like just like the negative , just bat

33:17

that away Next , keep going , keep

33:19

going .

33:20

I love it , my son . Just a quick

33:22

thing . I don't know why it's meant to be . I just have to share this

33:24

little story I'm just loving on my son so much

33:26

.

33:26

We're going to get into parent mode now .

33:29

You don't have any children . Do you that you know of ?

33:31

Oh , my God , my heart . My son is six

33:34

years old .

33:34

He's in this school . Wait , do you have a six

33:37

?

33:37

year old yes , what . And a beautiful

33:39

wife , and life is incredible .

33:41

Yes , I probably like liked

33:43

pictures of your child . I'm just blanking right now

33:45

. Are you serious ?

33:47

I'm coaching his soccer team . I drop them at school

33:49

every day . It's incredible . Like it's

33:51

blowing my mind I'm just soaking it .

33:53

This is a whole chapter we need to talk about .

33:56

I'm just soaking it in . So tell me about your son . Tell

33:58

me You've been loving on it .

34:00

I'm just I don't know why , you know what , Because I just

34:02

think of you like 15 , 20 years

34:04

ago , like we're all , just you know rock

34:06

stars and yeah just

34:08

an obturbus , but no , that's great . I'll

34:10

just say my son just turned 10 . I've been spending

34:12

this last because I've been on the road pretty much

34:14

like since October . Just every few

34:17

days I'm gone , gone , gone , gigs and Thanksgiving

34:20

, guam , and then this , and I'm home for one

34:22

full week , because one

34:24

week from today is when we leave for Oregon

34:26

, because we have one day of rehearsal and then we start on

34:28

next Thursday . So anyway , but I'm

34:30

just savoring every second with him . And

34:33

today , when we were driving , like he had

34:35

said something like the kids in his class

34:37

are being a certain way and I just like he

34:39

was like almost like talking , like venting . He's

34:41

like what's venting ? I'm like , well , that's what you're kind of doing

34:43

right now . You're venting about how the boy was being

34:46

rude to you on the soccer field at recess and

34:49

he's like , yeah , I'm like , well , what do you think

34:51

anyone's venting about you ? I don't know why

34:53

. I just wanted him to kind of have the perspective of like

34:55

you can look at yourself

34:57

as well , like it's , because that's

34:59

just a big one for me too . Like I was so blissfully

35:02

unaware and maybe hurt people's feelings

35:04

in my youth or maybe something

35:07

I just wanted my 10-year-old to now realize that

35:09

he could be affecting someone as well . I'm

35:12

like what , do you think anyone's venting about you

35:14

? And he's like yeah , maybe they're venting about

35:16

that . I get angry too quickly . I'm

35:18

like really . I'm like why do you say that

35:20

he's like ? Well , because every time we play soccer if

35:22

I don't win , I get super upset

35:24

like really easily and I'm just like over

35:27

it . I'm like , yes , I've seen that my

35:29

damn self , like in my backyard when I'm

35:31

playing soccer with him . He'll get so

35:33

mad if I beat him . I'm like you got to learn

35:35

how to lose boy . But that's pretty much the whole

35:37

lesson just learning how to

35:39

accept the no and learning . And

35:42

then I use it as a mom lesson

35:44

, as I'm just driving my five minutes to wherever

35:47

we were going . I'm like I got cut from

35:49

the soccer team . I got cut from

35:51

the K-Pak dance team at Kamehameha

35:53

. I liked a boy and pretty

35:55

much asked him to prom and he said no , I

35:59

didn't get into my top two colleges Like so

36:01

many no's , but it's

36:03

important just to keep on going and that was my lesson

36:06

for my kid , so I love

36:08

that you're sharing that right now . So tell me

36:10

about you as a father here at Soccer

36:12

Dad .

36:13

Yeah , I've been coaching soccer for

36:15

the last season and now we're starting

36:17

winter league too and I have another

36:19

coach and so I'm able to to

36:21

go on tour and come back , so it's really nice . But , um , yeah

36:25

, the kids are so sweet , they're all six , six

36:27

and seven year olds . It's incredible , like

36:29

I I went through one season with them , so

36:31

they like know me , they're like hugging me and it's

36:33

incredible , yeah , and and my son's soul

36:35

, it just I Can't

36:38

explain it's the best thing that's ever happened to

36:40

me . Like it is incredible . It is

36:42

, it's such , it's such a trip and the , the

36:45

levels , like when he was three it was like a whole another

36:47

chapter four and now he's six and it's like

36:49

I can't , can't imagine ten like

36:51

is .

36:52

It's before my eyes . I'm savoring every

36:54

single moment because of what you're saying

36:56

, like I have not Taken anything

36:59

for granted , especially since I don't get to see him

37:01

every single day because we're not . I'm

37:03

in his daughter , not together , of course the nature

37:05

of my job but like it is , yeah

37:08

, it's gonna be crazy . I remember him as like a little

37:10

baby and me being like I can't believe

37:12

some day , like you're gonna be walking around

37:14

the corner and calling me mom , like when I , when

37:16

I hear him say mom , like it just like

37:18

makes me want to cry . I'm like , oh , my god , this is my kid

37:21

, I'm a mom . I'm

37:24

gonna cry . This wine makes me cry

37:26

. Cheers Unless

37:29

about your wife . Is she's just the bomb ? Is

37:31

she a musician ? Is she supportive ?

37:34

Her name is Lorena Um , she's . She's

37:36

super supportive . We've been together for 20

37:38

years . Yeah , so you've met her before , for

37:40

sure , back in the day .

37:41

We have 20 years

37:44

.

37:44

We've been married 2011

37:47

, so we've got married . Yeah , it's been a long

37:49

journey , wow and then you guys waited . Yeah

37:56

no , no , no yeah , we did

37:58

, yeah long time . So that was

38:00

a trip , because I was , I was touring

38:02

a lot , I was like gone all the time and I

38:04

didn't . We didn't know when it was gonna happen , and it all kind of

38:06

happened at the same time . Like I was , I was double

38:08

, I was touring with tribal seats full time and

38:10

my music full time , so I was gone like the

38:13

whole . I would get off one touring all story like it

38:15

was nuts nuts . I did that for like two

38:17

years , two or three years , and then Um

38:20

left tribal seats at the same time Found

38:23

out she was pregnant . So she was like two months pregnant

38:25

and it was perfect because my schedule got cut

38:27

in half and I got to be home more and yeah

38:31

so what a journey .

38:32

Yes , you're in your relationship too

38:34

, right Like ?

38:36

We've been through some stuff but we made it through like it's

38:38

been . She's my best friend and we

38:40

always we call , not venting , but

38:42

call it and thens . And

38:45

then , and then this happened today , and then this

38:47

happened , and then you know , like saying our dailies

38:49

oh yeah , we call it our . And thens

38:51

yeah , and so we go in the house and she cooks

38:53

amazing dinners , I help her and and we

38:55

have time together every night . It's I know it's important

38:58

to her and we've just like built it into our lifestyle

39:00

. So we spend a lot of the evenings together

39:02

. So I just left and had a incredible

39:04

dinner and then just like walked out my

39:06

backyard to my studio , like a separate house back

39:08

here and oh my gosh

39:11

, I love it .

39:12

You could be like I want . I want like life

39:14

Relationship advice , like if there's you're

39:16

been married more than freaking half

39:18

of America Legally married longer

39:20

than most people in this whole damn country

39:23

. I pretty much guarantee that . Wow

39:26

dude .

39:27

I'm grateful that we've been it through . It's not like it hasn't been

39:29

hard , like we've gone through our stuff and we've

39:31

changed a lot . I feel very much like

39:33

in my you know , my early

39:35

20s and and

39:37

half of my 30s are more . I don't

39:39

feel like I was conscious , like

39:41

I was unconscious , kind of just flying . It

39:44

feels really much like if I look back , it looks like that

39:46

I feel like I only came out of it and

39:48

I don't know if I'm saying that , like I'm

39:50

saying that now because it's recently , but I

39:52

feel like I only came out of it recently , like maybe

39:54

two or three years ago , where I started to Really

39:57

be conscious . It's like , I don't know , I

39:59

just before .

40:00

I was just so awakening . So , awakening

40:02

, I feel like I felt the same thing . I feel like aliens

40:04

must have come down . Can I just say this ? Look

40:07

at my earrings , they're Christmas . It's a

40:09

. It's an alien spaceship that

40:11

is a closer .

40:13

What is it ?

40:14

It's an alien spaceship abducting a Christmas

40:16

tree so

40:18

cute .

40:21

So when you said , alien .

40:21

I got very excited . I mean I Christian

40:25

but I'm like I love to hear

40:27

all about the freaking , all of the things I've

40:30

been .

40:30

I've been um popping in on Joe Rogan

40:33

every once in a while , okay

40:35

.

40:35

I never listened to him . No

40:37

, I love him .

40:38

I love him . Like , just listen to the alien

40:40

episodes , that's it . Like it's . It's

40:43

crazy , like it will blow your mind . Like

40:45

this world is such he really nails

40:47

it . Like he's such His ideals

40:50

and everything . It really just nails it . It's just

40:52

he relates to , he's very Um

40:54

, you know , conscious of what's going on

40:57

in the world right now with technology . And then he's

40:59

with the experts that like have

41:01

Proof and military people and everything

41:03

, and he's just like , and there's just , and

41:05

the way he shifts it it's really it

41:07

just blows my mind and I love that about life . Like

41:09

this life is so mysterious , it's

41:11

so no , no one really has

41:14

. They're like no one really has proof

41:16

of anything . But yeah , there is

41:18

, there is Sign . So

41:20

why do we have all these signs ? But no

41:22

, no , exact like

41:24

you know what I'm saying , like

41:26

whether I mean I'm right here with

41:28

you . I wonder if we're losing Half of our audience

41:31

right now because they're no but I'm not just

41:33

talking about aliens , I'm talking about like God and

41:35

like a spiritual like where do you go and you die ? Is it like

41:37

atheists , where you just die and that's it

41:39

like ? But we're so Humans

41:41

, are so superior to anything as

41:43

ever we know of . So how did

41:45

this happen and how to like it

41:48

? just like we're logical , but we're

41:50

also like we believe in magic

41:52

, like I believe in both something's

41:54

happening right now , because I think we're talking

41:56

, the world is communicating , so they can't keep , they

41:58

can't keep truth away at all . So

42:01

like that's why all these people are coming out in the

42:03

senate too , about the alien thing and

42:05

all that . Like they're coming out and the truth

42:07

is coming out , you can't hold truth anymore . Like

42:09

truth will surface , like if someone's treating

42:11

someone else wrong , people are going to be like Nope , this

42:13

is not happening , we're not standing for this . The

42:16

world will come together and that's where I think Communication

42:19

is there . But we've known all these

42:21

things , as as in humanity , for a year

42:23

, you know , for for years , and

42:25

it's just , it's just so trippy , just

42:27

I felt it like literally just by myself

42:30

, with no Influence , just standing

42:32

on the corner and then like

42:34

the tree rustles in a way and

42:36

like something flies by and like you hear

42:38

a baby , like a positive baby

42:40

, cry and something else , and you just all hit

42:42

you at one time and you're like yo , this

42:44

is crazy .

42:45

I have to ask you are you ? Yeah

42:47

, were you on mushrooms at the time ?

42:50

and how do you feel about that ?

42:52

I'm just talking about it like regular life . Just

42:55

you just feel there's these surges of energy .

42:57

Well , I feel like , since I , when I do a

43:00

little bit of mushrooms , it wakens my

43:02

soul like just micro dose , like on a regular

43:04

basis for a week in advance or week like

43:07

cumulatively for the next

43:09

month or so , I'll have more experiences

43:12

like that , where my mind is like a little more open

43:14

. You know , like I

43:16

think it is just something .

43:18

I swear .

43:20

I've done a lot of muscle I think I'm

43:22

just there .

43:22

Yeah , I'm just there .

43:23

The fiber of your being .

43:25

I've always been like very , very

43:27

spiritual , very spiritual , you know . So I'm just

43:30

always seeking , always seeking that

43:32

like why is this ? How is it supposed to happen ? Like this

43:34

, like I'm seeking , you know

43:36

, so it's , and I don't have all the answers , I

43:38

don't have it , but like I've been heavily influenced

43:40

by , like the Catholic

43:42

Church when I was young and with the Catholic school

43:44

, and then Rasta

43:46

, from 13 . Like Rasta , like

43:48

the teachings of Rastafari that come through reggae music , like

43:51

they also spoke to me and there's

43:54

just been so much , so many blessings , like spiritually

43:56

, and some of them are ideal , some of

43:58

them are , you know , it's just all over

44:01

the board , but I just I've always been seeking that

44:03

type of thing , you know , and so

44:05

yeah , life is mysterious .

44:07

I wrote that on the top of my paper . I'm like could

44:09

that be a song ? Did you write it already ? Life is

44:11

a mystery .

44:12

I sing about it all , every song that I'm

44:14

singing . Check it .

44:16

I love a good title . No , I love a good like title

44:18

, that's why . Or like a good tattoo , like I said , like

44:20

Nice .

44:24

I love this conversation .

44:27

Yeah , I have so much cool content . I love

44:29

like getting getting real and getting open

44:32

, like that's my intention . This is

44:34

my 33rd recorded

44:36

episode .

44:38

And I saw that . Congrats .

44:39

Yeah , it's a , it's a labor of love

44:42

, that's something you're doing .

44:43

You're doing something . You chose it .

44:45

You got up here and you did it like it's

44:47

more for me than it is for the people I love . It is for the people

44:50

I feel like , like you know , because sometimes I'll

44:52

get in my own head . I am kind

44:54

of a recluse in a introvert , believe it or not . I

44:57

heard there's a term for it's called omnivert . Sometimes

44:59

you're a total extrovert and sometimes you're

45:01

complete introvert and I swear

45:04

to God , that's exactly me , because I am you .

45:06

Do you ? Do you have

45:08

the best times when you're extroverted

45:10

, when you're out there and you're talking with people ? Is

45:12

that when you're the happiest ?

45:15

No , not necessarily . I definitely think

45:17

that substances will make

45:19

me feel that way , like I'm happiest

45:21

one on one with my son or

45:24

my love , like my love or like

45:26

in nature , but then , but then when it's

45:28

me by myself , it

45:30

is always a good time , like I'm always

45:33

having a blast when it's just me by myself

45:35

. I like being alone , exercising

45:38

alone , hiking alone .

45:39

Yoga is very much in my own head .

45:41

I get shut down alone . I'm

45:44

just very much by myself all the time I love

45:46

it .

45:47

I get glimpses of me as an introvert , like

45:49

type B personality

45:51

, where you're not full on , but

45:54

I really enjoy . I

45:56

feel like I'm extroverted and I enjoy

45:58

being around people , like talking

46:00

with people and just communicating

46:03

like this . This brings me the most joy and I love

46:05

my family being around with me during

46:07

those situations , you know , and it gets

46:09

a little chaotic and I and I love that , like I don't

46:11

mind , like a bunch of people talking and like I

46:14

performing on stage , like I love all that

46:16

you know .

46:17

so yeah , Hi

46:21

Kikai Kikai's in this group right now . That's

46:23

my boyfriend here . He's in the shot

46:25

and he puts up with the laugh . Yeah

46:28

, he's coming on the whole tour . You're going to see him in the photo

46:30

. Oh , you're coming .

46:31

Yeah .

46:32

All right , he's my wait , he's my emotional support

46:34

animal .

46:35

Everyone , this is Kikai's debut to the to

46:37

the Just Keep Jombing podcast . Everybody Give

46:39

him a whoop-whoop .

46:41

Hi everyone , nice to meet you

46:43

. Yeah , nice to meet

46:45

you on the tour coming up .

46:46

I'm meeting you . Oh shit , I

46:48

just muted . I love you , babe . Sorry , I

46:50

just muted .

46:52

So one thing that you you talked about changing

46:55

subject is um . That I don't want to forget

46:57

is um exercise . Does this

46:59

, does this help you with your you know , like your life

47:01

journey , or mental game , movement ? Does

47:03

yes , Movement does .

47:05

My dad was a PE teacher , but

47:07

, but you know , I watched a couple of documentaries

47:10

like lifting weights and like doing marathons

47:12

, which I've done three half marathons now in

47:14

my life , like that's not necessarily

47:16

the best for your overall health . Like

47:18

just daily movement , like the people

47:21

who lived to the centurions are the ones who are gardening

47:23

every day and carrying their own laundry , and

47:25

like moving and that's the . That's the lifestyle

47:27

that I feel like is the most cause I get stressed out

47:29

when I feel like I got to work out , I got

47:31

to have a personal trainer , I'm blowing it . Look at all

47:34

these hot girls . Like that's going to

47:36

, that's going to kill me . My mental health is

47:38

going to kill me someday if I compare

47:40

. So there's , there's my balance that I'm trying

47:42

to feel . What about you ?

47:44

So what , what are the main things you do though ?

47:46

Oh , yoga is my biggest . I

47:48

love pulling weeds . Pulling

47:50

weeds is my love language and yard work is

47:52

my love language .

47:53

You can think you know when you're , when you're

47:55

gardening for a long time and you're pulling weeds

47:57

, and then you close your eyes , do you ever ? And you see

47:59

plants that I'm having you . Oh

48:02

, that happens to me a lot , like I'm , so I'm looking at

48:04

the plants for so long when I garden I love gardening

48:06

, by the way , I have like a garden and

48:09

then when I leave the garden , I see plants when I close

48:11

my eyes .

48:12

Well , it's kind of like the rhythm of the ocean . You're on a boat

48:14

all day fishing , and then when you're in bed you're like

48:16

still feeling it yeah .

48:18

Always ask people that and no one has ever said oh yeah , I do too

48:20

. I'm always alone on that .

48:22

I know Like sorry , buddy , I'm

48:24

the guy that's done too many mushrooms , sharon

48:29

from the chat room says come to my house

48:31

. I have been cutting down juice and

48:33

then Jerry says so calm . Yeah

48:35

, what kind of weed are you talking about , jerry , though ?

48:37

Yeah , a weeding . I was like , yeah , I love to weed , weed

48:40

also A

48:42

weed in the morning , weeding in the night . I

48:44

love to . I love

48:46

to run . I've been running three miles every

48:49

other day the last couple of weeks . It's been like

48:51

since preparing for tour

48:53

. I kind of allowed myself to like I've

48:55

been running twice a week but I've been running three

48:57

miles . I got my little route here in Imperial Beach

48:59

and it's amazing .

49:00

Three miles is good . I think three miles

49:02

is a good distance right to

49:04

get you in the zone , to get you the heart rate

49:06

, but not too much that it's like you're going to

49:09

fuck up your like night .

49:11

What's your like ? How many minute miles

49:13

are you doing ?

49:14

Oh , I mean like when I was doing

49:16

, when I was in shape like 10

49:18

, 11 consistently for 13 miles through

49:21

, like I was . I was , but this last

49:23

one I just did a half

49:25

marathon with kick high , like I was like , yeah , babe

49:27

, I've done it so many times , let's do it . Like my

49:29

dad had passed away and this is one of the biggest

49:31

accomplishments of my life to

49:34

date and I never said this publicly

49:36

. I don't think as often as I should . I

49:38

quit smoking Like I was up to

49:40

a pack a day . You probably met me and

49:42

you probably know I was like a freaking smoker

49:44

since I was 18 years old , just off and on

49:46

. Yeah , Like off and on , not like

49:48

every day . But I got to

49:51

the point where it was every day I would just have

49:53

my moment outside with my cigarette and it was fucking

49:55

disgusting Like I was raging at it . And

49:58

then I tried to do the half marathon while

50:00

I was in the middle of that addiction

50:02

of cigarettes and it was horrible . It was a

50:04

miserable experience but I ended up

50:06

finding going to the doctor . I thought I had like

50:09

pneumonia and then they prescribed

50:11

me something which is actually an anti-depressant

50:13

. I'm just sharing , being totally vulnerable and totally

50:16

transparent . It's an anti-depressant but it

50:18

actually takes away , takes away urges

50:20

and it gives you impulse control . That's

50:23

like one of the side effects and , like

50:25

I tried the patches . I tried the gum . I know

50:27

Chantix gives people horrible nightmares

50:29

, was not ready for that , so I tried

50:31

this and , honestly , game

50:33

changer , like I feel so much

50:36

happier I have no , I'm like

50:38

disgusted of cigarettes and I

50:40

feel like that's going to help me with

50:42

the long everybody's clapping and the thing . So

50:44

you guys were just my friends . Like when I smell a cigarette

50:46

, I'm like , was that me ? They're like , yeah , arnoud

50:49

, that was you . I'm like , oh my God , disgust

50:51

, like I can't believe how gross I was for

50:54

20 years . Thank you

50:56

for loving me anyway , you guys . I'm so sorry

50:58

, but no disrespect to people

51:00

who have cigarettes , but I was smoking way too much

51:02

is my point .

51:04

And did that help I'm so glad that I

51:06

never had that habit . I just I've never touched

51:08

a cigarette . Like I'm so grateful I've

51:11

heard that story from so many people Like I have good

51:13

friends that struggle to stop . And

51:15

did that ? Did that process help you kind

51:18

of tame your other substances

51:21

?

51:23

Well , sort of I still , I

51:25

still , I just feel like I'm happier

51:27

and that like tames

51:29

my anxiety and it tames

51:31

my ADD . It does have like positive

51:34

benefits for like ADD , which I definitely

51:36

am . But I'll wake . I used to wake up

51:38

and like have so much to do . Like this

51:40

book is completely filled with checklists

51:43

checklists Like I function off of checklist

51:45

but I don't finish these

51:47

checklists . Like I'm like halfway

51:50

. Everybody in this thing knows

51:52

it . Like I was supposed to have vinyl records out

51:54

for Christmas . Like I was supposed to have albums out . I

51:57

have the intention , but just something

51:59

in my brain blocks me . It's like that something

52:01

blocks me anyway . But this bupropan

52:03

has helped me . The chemical

52:06

thing , because I have so much more . If I didn't

52:08

have to function in this society then

52:10

I'd be fine . I wouldn't need these chemicals to

52:12

be , I wouldn't need these pills . But

52:14

I feel like this is a coping mechanism me

52:17

having to function with fucking social media , being

52:19

a single mom , having to keep up and up with all this

52:21

shit .

52:21

It is too hard , unhealthy society .

52:24

Yes , and that's what , that's the grace I'm giving

52:26

myself , so that I don't feel like weak

52:28

or a piece of shit for having

52:30

to rely on medication

52:32

, because a lot of people might like even

52:34

friends of mine are like I don't want to

52:36

have to take a pill . But

52:39

seriously , it's like Give yourself grace

52:41

, like back in the day . It

52:43

wasn't this hard . Life is fucking hard

52:46

.

52:47

Hard to keep up . Maybe try , as you go forward

52:49

, to replace that with something Natural

52:52

you know like . Well

52:56

, that was what I did in the Holistic

52:58

thing .

52:59

I had all the herbs of the world , so

53:01

I will we myself off of this , though You're absolutely

53:03

right . I have a combination of mushroom

53:06

, non-psychedelic ones , ashroganda

53:09

and all of the vitamins that will

53:11

help me feel the same way , so

53:13

thank you for . For saying

53:15

that . One question I had , though how

53:18

does , how do you secure your dreadlocks

53:20

when you're running three miles , and

53:23

does it hurt ?

53:23

I've been keeping them like this lately , like

53:25

this Before . I couldn't

53:27

because they were touching the floor and I would have to put

53:29

them in a backpack . I did the gong thing

53:32

, I put them in a bag and

53:34

when I would play soccer or a bicycle

53:36

, anything like , they're so floor if I had

53:38

a bicycle so dangerous . If

53:40

I had them like this , they would fall off because

53:42

they were so big , like , so massive . So

53:45

I would have put them in a backpack . And then I would be like

53:47

, oh my gosh , I'm alive again . Like I could . You know , I

53:49

could really 10 pounds lighter

53:51

. But , but now my wife's

53:53

just like they're too long , it's time . I'm not like , all

53:55

right , here's the scissors and I just let it go . So

53:58

she's got some . Like she cuts them , like

54:00

like halfway

54:02

, um , like

54:04

down your back , maybe a little higher

54:06

.

54:07

Yeah , yeah , that's cool .

54:09

Yeah , they go to like here here Maybe

54:11

okay , so we all have seen his butt

54:13

.

54:13

Everyone look at his .

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I don't even have an ounce .

54:15

What do ?

54:16

you mean , this

54:18

is my hair . Um , thank you to

54:20

whoever uh sold this to

54:22

Bellamy

54:24

hair extensions . Uh , because , I really

54:26

appreciate it .

54:27

I want my hair to my ass Now .

54:31

But no , I have . So what I've seen is you

54:33

either either have the gene or you don't . There's a gene

54:35

where your hair just grows forever . Or you don't

54:38

have that gene and it stops .

54:40

Interesting .

54:41

I got the gene .

54:42

Okay , good for you . I hope your kid has the gene

54:44

too .

54:45

I'll just cut them and ship them to you .

54:47

Well , I do know someone in my band

54:49

had dreads , grew

54:51

them themselves but then decided they don't

54:53

want them anymore . I should , I should let

54:55

him tell the story . But he cut

54:57

them off , saved them and

54:59

then when he wanted to do dreads again , he

55:02

grew up about . He grows hairs about this long and

55:05

then just reattach them . And

55:07

it's his at least it's his dreads , because

55:09

I I yeah , it's not some

55:11

somebody else's anyway . Well

55:13

, it's 718 . I would

55:16

love you to just grace us

55:18

, so I have a cute sound bite for editing purposes

55:20

. Can you just tell us maybe one like

55:22

mantra , or one takeaway

55:24

, just something that you want our listeners

55:26

to remember ? This entire podcast

55:29

about you .

55:29

So I got a quote what

55:32

a precious privilege it is to be alive

55:34

, to breathe , the thing to enjoy

55:36

, to love . So I

55:38

think Gratitude is the key and

55:40

it's in that statement . And here's

55:43

another one About towards

55:45

gratitude . Gratitude unlocks the fullness

55:47

of life If it turns what

55:49

we have into enough and more . So

55:52

I do feel gratitude is the key to you

55:54

know this human experience .

55:56

I love it so much I just wrote it in the chat . Can

55:58

I add a third one for you as far as my

56:00

Perception of this whole thing

56:02

? Please do life is mysterious

56:05

, Whoo yeah

56:08

it is right . Fucking mysterious .

56:10

Let me get a thumb up in the chat . If you guys it's

56:13

right like we don't know much , like we're trying to figure

56:15

it all out and it's , it's incredible

56:17

.

56:18

It's exciting and it makes

56:20

you want to wake up tomorrow and be like what kind of

56:22

mystery am I gonna freaking , you

56:24

know . I'll discover tomorrow .

56:26

I do feel like answers are coming

56:28

, whether this life or next or

56:30

later , or something . I

56:32

feel like this is part of this journey . I don't know

56:34

, something tells me that .

56:36

I have the same feeling and I , even if it's

56:38

not real , at least we have that feeling and

56:41

it's gonna keep us . I think this

56:43

is a beautiful feeling to have . Let's never lose

56:45

that excitement about life . Ian

56:49

, thank you so much for being a

56:51

part . Can we all like give them a round of applause

56:53

? You wear many

56:55

a hat . Most of them probably can't fit on

56:58

your dreadlock head all the heads .

57:02

Now the jets go in the head they

57:05

go in the backpack .

57:09

I can't wait to have so much fun . It's

57:11

just gonna be a beautiful winter vibe

57:13

, so yeah , the new single is probably be

57:15

out .

57:15

It's called come with fire with royal blue and

57:18

we're gonna be playing it on this tour . And

57:20

, yeah , I'm excited for the tour .

57:22

Yeah this is gonna be nice .

57:25

Thank you , nice

57:28

to see everybody . I good to see everyone

57:30

.

57:30

Love you all . Love you all too . Thank

57:33

you guys so much for listening to the just keep

57:35

jamming podcast , season

57:37

three , episode three with Ian young

57:39

. Thank you so much . Um love you to all my patreon

57:42

backers and everybody

57:44

out there listening .

57:45

See you next time . Be

57:48

sure to come check us out on the all is bright tour

57:50

2023 , from Portland

57:52

to Bremerton , washington

57:54

, boise , idaho , roseville , california

57:57

, lake Tahoe and Salana Beach . Come

57:59

check all the dates on anuheajamscom

58:02

slash all is bright and

58:06

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58:08

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58:10

it out wherever you listen to music .