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proud, the Marines.

1:49

So what you're saying, you've got a small cock? Well,

1:52

I think my major issue, my major

1:54

issue is you know people,

1:57

it's like you're a show or you're a grower. Yeah.

3:59

It's really funny because I'm like, I'm not slim either,

4:02

but I'm not a tub of lard. I

4:05

would say your BMI is comparable to mine. It's

4:07

not, yeah, it's not. Did

4:10

you see that?

4:11

If your BMI is over 31, you can go and play, there's

4:13

like a football league that, you know,

4:19

you could go and do that. I feel like that's made for me. I feel like

4:21

that is genuinely made for me. As you know, my

4:23

five-a-side nickname is Slimitar Burger Top. And

4:26

I'm like, right, that is it. It's time to bring it back. I haven't played

4:28

football for two years. I'm basically retired. Like

4:31

keep getting injured. But I'm like in that league, I'd be a

4:33

fucking guy. They'd be like, all right, skinny calm down. Yeah.

4:35

So maybe I'll rip it up. Chill out. You

4:38

should be a professional.

4:41

So it's the Thursday pod. What

4:44

does that mean, John boy? It means

4:46

questions and some questionable answers.

4:49

Yes. It means we don't know

4:51

what's coming. So we don't know what this podcast is

4:53

going to be. Typically is all around Spurs obviously,

4:55

but we'll do our best to answer

4:58

them. Actually at the moment, how you feeling, John? How you feeling about

5:00

everything? How you feeling about Spurs? Why the fuck

5:02

are we still doing this after 12 years? Of

5:05

being let down over and over again by this fucking

5:08

football club and that

5:10

bastard. Daniel

5:12

Levy. Do you know what this is? This

5:15

season and this part of the season

5:18

is when you and your mates at the start of the year, you went

5:20

on some Stagdoo the previous summer and you had a great time.

5:22

You're booking this time of the holiday and you're

5:24

thinking, right, this time we'll do a week. This

5:27

is the Thursday.

5:28

And you're like, why do we book this extra two

5:30

hours? We don't need it. We don't need it. Get

5:32

me home. But every night

5:35

you still just go and have a couple of vodka rebels

5:37

thinking that tonight will be different. And

5:39

then you wake up the next day and it's the same hangover and you just

5:41

get to the point where you're thinking, I

5:44

would have, even a week ago, I'd done anything

5:46

to be in a sunny place in a bar drinking

5:49

with my mates. Now all I want this to be

5:51

is over. Over, yeah, I want to go home.

5:53

That's where the season is. I'm just like, I'm

5:55

just done. I've got really bad acid reflux.

6:00

I'm just like popping Rennies like

6:02

it's going out of fashion and I just want to go to bed

6:04

forever. Are you saying you're six days

6:06

in to the weekend after Vegas? We didn't

6:08

even get Vegas. Vegas would suggest that it was some goodness.

6:11

I suppose we did have moments this season that were

6:14

memorable. Like we did have that little purple

6:16

patch of beating Man City, Chelsea and

6:18

West Dam, not concealing goals. But

6:21

I watched the highlights of, do

6:24

you know what actually I was on Reddit. I was reading the

6:26

Reddit quiz on Reddit and they've got a little

6:28

picture on the side of Oliver Skip

6:29

striking that ball against Chelsea.

6:32

And I'm like, do you know what? I need some happiness in my life.

6:35

I need to feel good about Spurs for a bit.

6:37

So I'm going to go and watch the highlights

6:40

of Tottenham versus Chelsea. We were really

6:42

good. We were really bloody good.

6:45

I don't know Chelsea how much cop, but you know, we'd beat

6:47

Man City. We were good against Man City. What

6:50

is it? How could

6:52

we be good like

6:54

that? And then just

6:57

shit. What happened?

7:00

This is what makes me sad, but

7:03

also gives me like room for optimism. Cause

7:06

I'm like, if there's a team capable of doing

7:08

that kind of stuff and not just like once

7:10

entire season, but like on a few occasions,

7:13

it makes me feel frustrated of, well,

7:15

why can't we do that more consistently? But it does make me

7:17

think, well, maybe we could do that more consistently. And

7:19

if we did, then things would be good and we

7:21

would love it. And I

7:23

tell you what gave me a bit of encouragement when

7:25

I watch back, you

7:28

and Ricky doing the keep sell stuff.

7:32

And that to me was making me think,

7:34

well, actually, hang on a minute. Like the players that you boys

7:36

decided to keep, I'm like, well, some of those

7:39

players, if they perform to any sort

7:41

of decent standard and we have, and there's a lot of ants

7:43

here, and we get a good manager who's capable of like

7:45

playing that way. And we're capable of doing that consistently.

7:48

It will change so quickly.

7:51

Like if this is really the bottom, if we're

7:53

really low and we're feeling like this is just awful, and

7:55

there's a lot of apathy in the air, I've said that a few times

7:57

that I felt that way.

7:58

Then there's got to be a bit of

7:59

a, an upswing at some point and it doesn't,

8:03

it always seems the worst like when

8:05

you're in the middle of it but things can quickly

8:07

change in footballs. We've seen that with clubs like both ways

8:09

right, some clubs riding high then

8:11

the next minute it's just like doom and gloom. If

8:14

this is the doom and gloom, I've said always talk

8:16

about this, if this is the doom and gloom you kind of should

8:18

get excited because it means eventually

8:20

this ends and it has to swing back the other way and the

8:23

longer we're in the shit the closer you are to get

8:25

into some good stuff coming our way so I'm

8:27

just gonna hold on to that for dear life. I mean that's fantastic

8:29

and

8:29

I'm with you and it makes me feel a bit better but it

8:32

also makes you think well I've seen the good and

8:34

we didn't win anything and we still the team

8:37

in that top six that generates the money we do and

8:39

we're the club that exists without anything

8:42

to shout about really. This is what I'm saying

8:44

like like James Allcomer mate,

8:46

he's a qpr goes and he goes you're not

8:48

a fucking entitled like what

8:51

are you talking about? Do you know you've got this incredible

8:54

stadium, you've got incredible players that you

8:56

watch, who means on? Kane,

8:58

Eric Dyer would walk into qpr's

9:00

side, do you understand the levels we're

9:02

talking about here? You want a shit club with

9:05

no future to follow and complain about?

9:07

Go down to the Loftus Road for a couple of weeks, you'll

9:09

see a real football club there but

9:12

a city yeah but you're not you're

9:14

not grouped up with Manchester City,

9:16

Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal,

9:21

now Newcastle, Newcastle

9:23

aside all those other teams win stuff so you're

9:25

the we're bottom of that league you're

9:28

not in that league but we're bottom of the one we're in that's

9:31

why it's sad that's why it's frustrating

9:33

and horrible so shut your fucking

9:36

mouth James. You shut your mouth James.

9:38

I'm not sure what's going on. I'm

9:41

fucking not your mate not your.

9:43

Go listen to his podcast the ripple effect's very good.

9:46

We've got a question here from Chef

9:48

Chellios he says did you enjoy Natcon

9:51

John? What does that mean? What

9:53

is Natcon? Do you not know what that means? No.

9:57

I don't know.

11:59

and PSV right they typically win the league

12:02

every year so like to do something that special with

12:04

finals pretty impressive and then sort

12:06

of forgot about the fact that they were up against

12:09

like was it they were against Roma weren't they in the conference

12:12

league that's right Europe your conference league

12:14

thing and obviously

12:16

coming up short in that but still getting to that final

12:18

then losing a ton of players and then going on to win the league

12:21

that to me is like okay hang on this is a guy that's

12:23

definitely doing something that's quite interesting and he's

12:25

young and

12:26

he's definitely on the up then I started like

12:29

watching videos of him like talking and

12:31

like the way he talks and all his sort of philosophy

12:33

on football and suddenly I'm like hang

12:35

on a minute this is like actually more in line with what we

12:37

need because even the sort of the poachers and

12:39

the Nagelsmans of this world have kind

12:41

of been at these like super clubs now right

12:43

poachers been at PSG Nagelsman been

12:46

at Bayern it's almost

12:48

a little bit like the Conte territory of oh

12:50

I'll come and then I'll do you a lot of favor I'll come

12:52

to you just while I wait for a bigger job this

12:55

would be slots big job this

12:56

is a step up for him this would be we

12:59

do represent a bit a big club

13:01

that he should be excited to manage

13:04

it's ticking a lot of boxes made that I didn't really

13:06

like consider before and it's getting me a little bit excited

13:08

that maybe this is a bit more like

13:10

the POC appointment we had first time around where

13:13

it's a manager who's done something quite good with clubs

13:15

who weren't fancied and now he's got an opportunity in a platform

13:17

to do something with what is ostensibly

13:19

a sleeping giant ready to go with all the facilities

13:21

you need to compete with those other teams so I'm

13:24

slot in I'm sliding

13:27

I mean I mean we haven't got a choice now because I mean who

13:29

else is there but you know

13:31

look fundamentally you're right about his trajectory this

13:33

is perfect this makes complete sense it's probably

13:36

a big step up from Feynoid

13:39

and the Erever Dersi

13:41

but no no it makes complete

13:43

sense right it makes sense that

13:46

he would move in this direction had you know nearly

13:48

could have won the league of AZ and

13:51

this was a season that was interrupted by Covid and all

13:53

the stop-start

13:54

nature of that and then obviously

13:57

has won the league with Feynoid and we watched

14:00

I posted a video of him in

14:03

a changing room talking after they

14:05

beat Ajax at the Amsterdam Arena, which

14:08

isn't, you know, that's no mean feat. That's

14:10

a difficult place to go. It's certainly an alley. It's like going

14:13

to play Man City fundamentally. And what you

14:15

said about the third team, that doesn't happen

14:17

in Holland. In the same way it doesn't happen

14:20

in Spain, it's like Valencia winning a league. That's

14:22

what he's done with Fair Nod in

14:24

terms of overturning what PSV and Ajax

14:27

have achieved.

14:29

And the challenges that come with facing

14:31

those over a league period

14:33

or a league season, it's phenomenal

14:36

really when you think about it. And what

14:38

also is interesting, and I've been doing some reading,

14:40

when it comes, you know, you have to do due

14:42

diligence, is

14:45

that

14:47

he improves players in the same way that Pots did under

14:50

Southampton and Tottenham, that players leave

14:52

that club Fair Nod that they have to sell, leave

14:54

that club better than

14:56

players and than the ones he found.

15:00

And that's important because we

15:02

have a lot of young players who could

15:05

do with development. And it's interesting,

15:07

I want to talk to you about skip, moving

15:10

into this, what do you call it? Like a leadership

15:12

group, whatever it is. I'm gonna talk about that

15:14

in a bit. But skip, there is a player

15:16

in skip and perhaps with Onslaught's

15:19

ability to sort of put

15:22

the arm around it, to use a cliche, to put

15:24

an arm around it and make these players

15:26

play better and elevate them.

15:30

That is something that was intensely

15:32

satisfying from Pochettino's reign. And

15:35

it means that you kind of,

15:36

it's easier to buy into it. And

15:39

it creates an atmosphere and an energy that

15:41

you want to kind of

15:42

follow.

15:43

And you're like, oh, look what he's doing with our youth

15:46

academy players. I mean, perhaps players, some

15:48

of our young players that are leaving now might not, if

15:51

they had a clear route to the first team. There

15:53

is a slight concern though that are we quite heavy

15:56

in the sort of wingback, back free roll

15:59

system, sorry. and our

16:01

fullbacks are generally more weighted towards

16:03

wingbacks rather than playing in the bat

16:05

four. He does like a 4-2-3-1.

16:08

I'm wondering,

16:10

I don't think we have the defenders to play a bat four really.

16:13

Yeah but mate, I hear this all the time

16:15

and I just find it fascinating really

16:18

that

16:18

all of a sudden players who play

16:21

as a fullback can't play in a bat four. I

16:23

don't know where this mentality

16:25

has come from. You see players like

16:27

Kamavinga who's a central midfielder playing left

16:29

back for Real Madrid and getting to the Champions League semi-finals.

16:33

Basically, a fullback is the easiest

16:35

position on a full pitch. It's the

16:37

easiest position. You basically

16:39

have a defender to your left, your other centre back,

16:41

right? You have a winger in front of you who,

16:44

if they trap back, can also help you out in most

16:46

cases or if you're playing three, at least another

16:48

midfielder potentially can shuffle over. You've got

16:50

one byline to kick the ball out of and

16:52

obviously you've got your goal line to kick a ball out of. You

16:54

are in so many places, just get rid of the ball

16:57

and deal with things. That's not the

16:59

same for a central midfielder or a central defender

17:01

or a striker where you're limiting in terms

17:03

of your options.

17:04

It's a destructive position in most

17:06

cases, right? Just stop them scoring and

17:09

if you're good at going forward, you just add another

17:11

layer, another dimension. There's plenty

17:13

of fullbacks who are playing for top

17:15

clubs who aren't very good defenders, who are playing about four.

17:18

It's fine. I don't understand why people are panicking

17:20

about this. Pedro Porra can't play right

17:22

back. Yes he can. Yes he can. Coach him to

17:24

play right back. When the player gets

17:27

the ball, tackle him and kick it off. It's

17:29

not rocket science, is it? He's not trying to go, oh right,

17:32

what I need is I need to turn Skip into Iniesta.

17:34

That is next level coaching that no one

17:36

could do. You can turn basic footballers into

17:38

decent right backs. I'm sorry, it shouldn't be that complicated.

17:41

It should be that Porra,

17:43

when people say he can't play right back,

17:46

it should be that he's been able over

17:48

a period of time to be coached to play right back. The

17:51

fact that he can't means

17:53

would be alarming.

17:55

It wouldn't be true mate. You

17:57

can coach a player. The bit you can't coach

17:59

is the other way. round right like Emerson Royale

18:02

is ostensibly a very good right

18:04

back. Yes. Like he's good defensively.

18:07

We tried to play him as a wingback and we saw that he

18:09

was just unable because creativity

18:11

in football is like gold dust. That's

18:13

the hard bit. That's the bit that's really like difficult

18:16

to coach into players like oh vision

18:18

how do you coach vision right that's almost impossible

18:21

but you can coach people to defend because

18:23

defending is much more of like a destructive way.

18:25

It's just like sticking close to a player. Yeah there's

18:30

methods. All of which they would have spent thousands

18:32

of hours doing already. Yeah and

18:34

most of these players who start I mean like

18:37

there's loads of great defenders who started

18:39

as strikers when they were younger. Ashley Cole is a great example.

18:41

He's got a hundred goals in a season once for his youth team

18:43

and end up being one of the best left backs the world's ever seen. Why?

18:46

Because it's much easier to be a defender than it is to

18:48

be an attacker. So they can be

18:50

coached and be taught to do this and I'm

18:52

not worried about the defenders that we're that we've

18:55

got or the ones that we're bringing back to be able to be functional

18:57

and I'd rather them be

18:59

like more attacking and then coach them to defend because

19:01

I think you can then get more out of them both ways.

19:04

We saw that before with Rosen Walker

19:06

neither of which were touted as they can't defend

19:08

and then went on to be brilliant for us and no one really

19:11

ever mentioned they're defending. No that's true.

19:13

I mean there was elements to Carl Walker's

19:15

defence that you thought and

19:17

you know he makes mistakes he'd constantly

19:20

run into the back of the players and push them over but that

19:22

was more like decision-making than his

19:25

inability to defend and if a system suited

19:27

to be heavy you know attack heavy

19:29

you know that we are on

19:31

the front foot then having

19:33

full backs that can go forward and enjoy going

19:35

forward isn't a bad thing at all.

19:37

We spoke many many times that in

19:39

a 4-2-3-1 about how far forward

19:41

Rose and Carl Walker would get we want

19:44

teams to be afraid of Spurs when they come to Whiteout

19:46

Lane especially at home that our full backs don't

19:48

have to worry about defending

19:49

because they know if they come out too much we will

19:52

destroy them. There'll be times where you'd like

19:54

again with under Pochettino and I'm pretty sure this

19:56

is not Rose tinted and I'm sure on

19:59

a slot

21:59

transition and just continue to do what we've

22:02

been doing. And you know if we're bringing

22:04

him in it's because he has

22:07

a way of playing and you need to

22:09

provide him with everything he needs in order to be successful

22:12

otherwise what's the point? And they must

22:14

in terms of this ever-ending due

22:16

diligence stage that Man and

22:19

Daniel Levy and Cullen whoever else is involved

22:21

in that you know they're

22:24

bringing in a manager now if it

22:27

is on his slot and they've chosen

22:29

they understand what he does and what he's

22:32

needs are and they need to provide him with those things

22:34

in order for it to be successful otherwise what's the point? What's

22:37

the absolute point? AlexTHFC

22:40

says are we the only club to have a leadership group

22:42

made mainly of players who aren't good enough to be with

22:44

us? Hashtag leave you out. This

22:49

is so this is the leadership group

22:51

is Dyer.

22:53

Huy

22:55

bien? Tain?

22:58

Yeah and Loyce.

23:00

But there's been internal

23:03

discussions to elevate Skip

23:06

to that group. Just stop

23:08

worrying about that. Worry about what we do. So

23:11

weird isn't it? I saw it like the tone

23:13

was like Skip considered for promotion

23:15

to this group. What is this?

23:18

Shut up and get on with being better on the pitch

23:20

you weirdos. What do you think of that? Do

23:22

you think it's a good positive thing that you have like

23:24

a leadership group or is it just something that exists generally

23:27

anyway that would most it's not spoken about a

23:29

lot of time?

23:30

Yeah it's weird like again like I always

23:32

find it funny and I do it a lot where you basically talk

23:34

about Sunday League and then go yeah so it's like that in

23:36

Sunday League therefore it's like that in professional football. But

23:38

yeah in Sunday League you have like

23:41

the senior players right who talk to

23:44

the manager but usually goes through the captain right

23:46

they'll speak to the captain and they'll just like so-and-so's

23:49

shit needs to be dropped or we're playing this system doesn't

23:51

work or whatever

23:52

and then the captain speaks to the

23:54

manager and has like a quiet word you don't need like a formal

23:58

group with like but we'll be

23:59

promoted into this group and there's like

24:02

a list of players who have it. I find that a

24:04

bit of a weird idea considering

24:07

the first team is you know whatever 25

24:09

players. Do you really

24:12

need that many people to be part

24:14

of this leadership group? And then

24:16

it does come down to if there is some sort of

24:18

formal group what happens like now

24:21

when these players are out of form? Right because it's

24:23

just very odd and that's the kind of point of

24:25

a captain is that generally speaking

24:28

they're undroppable.

24:29

The problem that we've got now is our captain is

24:31

droppable in fact needs to go immediately

24:35

and you know the other players that are in that group

24:37

Dyer and Scheuberg particularly at the moment

24:39

are under a lot of scrutiny skips not a million miles away

24:41

from that. So really we're talking about Kane is the only

24:44

one who's got any fucking right to say anything. He's essentially

24:46

the captain anyways get rid of the bloody group.

24:49

Exactly so it's just pointless the whole thing is just

24:51

it's just weird. Imagine Eric Dyer

24:53

just going in like having a word with Kane

24:55

and he's like I'm not listening to you am I? Look

24:57

you. Shit

24:58

I'm gonna listen to you. Am I? Also

25:01

what context is there in there looking at Eric

25:04

Dyer is staring at that line. The assistant needs

25:07

to change and Conte is looking and going this

25:09

motherfucker better shut up. Any minute.

25:13

Motherfucker.

25:16

It's conflict of interest as well though right like what?

25:19

If you're Hugo and you've just thrown a couple

25:21

in and then they're going yeah what are we gonna do about defensive

25:23

like issues and he's just looking around going oh I

25:25

don't know really. Could you imagine

25:28

that half time after Newcastle? Let's

25:30

get a group together not you. You're

25:33

sitting this one out.

25:36

Did you have a meeting this morning because I didn't get the message what?

25:38

Did we what? No.

25:41

No no no it's this we changed the time did we tell you?

25:44

Next week next week 9am. What

25:47

day? Just next week we'll let you know. I

25:50

think you're busy on your alright Cela.

25:52

Yeah it's kind of like does that make their position you know

25:55

completely without scrutiny if they're in this

25:57

fucking special inner circle. Yeah.

27:59

It's like, it's bullshit. It's a boring,

28:02

boring bullshit. And the same thing as well,

28:04

like, it's, oh, don't worry, we're

28:06

not gonna spend heavily, we're gonna wait for regulation

28:08

in the market. That's what we're gonna do, yeah. That's

28:11

a good idea. It's just like,

28:13

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Yeah, I mean, that whole idea of waiting

29:21

for regulation, if

29:23

there's one thing we've all seen from football,

29:26

is that regulation is absolute bollocks.

29:28

Yeah. But look, everything that's happened with

29:31

City for one, like overspending,

29:34

all this kind of stuff, slap on the wrist, so

29:36

it's like, nothing's really happened with that. Then

29:39

it's like, UVA in Italy, they just

29:41

went, oh, we've just sacked everyone that was involved in this

29:43

scandal, so is that all right? Yeah, all right, yeah, you can have your

29:45

points back. So regulation, if

29:47

it was a myth, it's just never gonna happen. It's

29:49

all done to protect

29:50

the big clubs who make the most money, because

29:53

again, like in all parts of life,

29:55

just follow the money. Remember all those

29:57

clubs who were gonna get sanctioned for wanting to do a breakaway?

29:59

League nothing has happened because

30:02

of course it can't because the status

30:04

quo are like what if we find them maybe they'll just

30:06

that would just be the final push them to actually go

30:08

and do it so we just shut up and take our medicine

30:11

well that's again the

30:14

powers of the 16 regular clubs in

30:16

the Premier League they are football so

30:18

of course in law and then UVA is I mean

30:20

it's sickening but they're essentially

30:23

fundamentally Italian football that

30:26

the they are the the club I think

30:29

I do I admire what's going on in Spain

30:30

in terms of restricting the

30:34

the spending of Real

30:36

Madrid and Barcelona they've

30:38

been quite strong La Liga yeah anyway

30:41

look maybe we've got so many questions we'll get free yeah

30:43

go on

30:45

Ross Bird says how many of the charity

30:47

leaven that played on Sunday get into our team now personally

30:49

I'll take any of the sentiment fielders that

30:51

played quite fun

30:54

that lots of old hats good for a good

30:56

cause I didn't actually know it was happening until I was

30:58

seeing yeah it was a bit passing

31:01

by like

31:02

bit under advertised acts I think like people would

31:04

love that they could have definitely done that in the stadium as well people

31:06

definitely come to watch it more enjoyable than last

31:08

six months watching actual Spurs it

31:11

kind of feel like we need a testimonial to make everything feel

31:13

a bit there at the moment Chris

31:16

Davis says could forming a new season ticket

31:18

holder action group give us

31:20

the best chance of holding Enoch to higher football

31:22

standards protest on our

31:25

own is diluted not like

31:27

to do much actually ignore the Jordy's for

31:29

years collectives have weight

31:31

in number

31:32

and might have meaningful leverage

31:34

I agree Chris but I don't think the appetites there to

31:37

be honest I don't there's one thing

31:39

saying singing you

31:41

can stick Daniel leave you up your ass or whatever

31:44

it is they're singing about him you know get out

31:46

of my club and another thing she

31:48

doing something like setting up a

31:51

season ticket holder action group my

31:53

advice would be to go to the trust and

31:55

lobby the trust

31:56

the stuff you're doing to you

31:59

know

32:39

at

34:01

the moment I wouldn't know where to go to find

34:03

out about Enoch out I can I can find a hashtag

34:05

on Twitter but I wouldn't know where to go

34:07

if I wanted to join in on this how

34:09

do I do that apart from if

34:12

I don't want to stand outside protesting

34:15

because at the moment it doesn't look like it's doing much then

34:18

what else can I do

34:22

so yeah having another group isn't isn't

34:24

really I don't think it's gonna help I don't think work

34:26

with the guys are are doing stuff

34:29

and fundamentally the trust go to the trust

34:31

in my opinion it's

34:32

their job it's literally what they're there for it's

34:34

the pass-on

34:36

information to the chairman and we there's

34:38

a there's a there's now a fan

34:40

gonna be on the board at Spurs again

34:43

I don't know how much teeth they're gonna have but

34:45

in terms of getting messages directly to the

34:48

chairman if you go through the trust to

34:50

that person who's been elected to

34:52

be on that board

34:53

that message will get to them whether they'll do anything is

34:56

a completely different conversation in terms

34:58

of lobbying Daniel Levy

35:00

to change the way he operates or

35:02

leave if that's what your aim is to do

35:05

then the trust is the way to do it

35:08

I think anything

35:11

to add on that Jumbo

35:12

yeah I think you're right mate I think I

35:14

think there is obviously a major issue with like disparate

35:17

groups all like vaguely

35:19

Enoch out but have like very different ideas

35:22

and it's like all fan bases right like no one fully

35:25

agrees on everything so even if you're broadly in

35:27

the same direction like we're all hopefully in the direction

35:29

of we want Spurs to be successful in the pitch but

35:31

yet you want you'll struggle to find anyone who you agree

35:33

with on footballing matters and

35:35

it's the same with Enoch out so I think what

35:38

what you're ultimately trying to do is affect change and

35:41

in order to affect change you need to be closest

35:44

to the people who have any influence even if that

35:46

is very small which is the trust so

35:49

I don't think it's a bad idea to if

35:51

there's a group of you who have a certain opinion

35:54

maybe form your own group but as a

35:56

result of that you should en masse join

35:58

the trust so that essentially you have more leverage

36:00

over what is being said by the trust. Because

36:03

to your point, they have to serve their members. So if you basically

36:06

create a group of people who have, you

36:08

agree a charter of like, these are things, the

36:11

core tenants of what we agree on and what we want

36:13

to happen, and you like en

36:15

masse join the trust and then use

36:18

that voice to kind of

36:20

say to them, this is what we want to be said

36:23

in the room, then you're gonna have much

36:25

more luck with that because the trust as

36:27

well has a lot more visibility

36:29

and transparency around it. I think part of the issue

36:31

that most of the Enoch Out group

36:35

have got is that I don't know who they are. I

36:37

don't know who anyone is in this movement. I don't know if there is a group,

36:39

is there? There is an eighth group, it's just

36:41

a way people like that. But even

36:43

like Change for Tottenham, for example, right? Like

36:45

they're trying, I think, to do the right thing, which is

36:48

say, look, we're trying not to take a side here, but we want

36:50

to see some positive change.

36:51

They've gone in a direction of like, well,

36:53

we have these executive board members

36:56

and blah, blah, blah, but no one knows who they are, right? So

36:59

from the get-go, you have an issue of lack

37:01

of transparency. With the trust, they have to be elected.

37:04

So again, if you join the trust, you become

37:06

a member, you can decide whether or not the

37:08

people representing you are actually

37:11

acting in your interest by voting them out at the end

37:13

of their term. I think realistically,

37:15

that structure already exists and is close to the club

37:17

as anyone is likely to get starting anything new.

37:19

So I think, yeah, without going round in circles

37:21

on this point, get involved in the trust

37:24

and then make your voice heard by organizing

37:26

yourself within that because you're gonna have a

37:28

lot more of a chance of getting stuff done.

37:30

Yeah, agreed.

37:34

Okay, let's go to Lando.

37:37

Actually, we've kind of talked about this, but

37:39

it makes a good point. Lando, am I the only one embarrassed by

37:41

the ITK rumors today or about

37:44

promotions to the player committee? Like it even matters.

37:46

Why shouldn't any player go straight to the chairman or boss

37:48

when they arrive and have a go? Every

37:51

time I look, this club looks weirder and

37:53

weirder from the inside. What

37:56

a weird little, that's weirdos,

37:59

bunch of weirdos.

37:59

It is weird. It is weird.

38:03

Let's go over to Reddit for a bit. It

38:06

says, global

38:08

ingenuity. It says, you

38:11

reached the final round of golden balls

38:13

with Daniel Levy. Do

38:15

you choose steal or split?

38:21

So I saw there's this there's some theory

38:23

where basically you tell them

38:26

that you're going to steal no matter what

38:28

you like. It doesn't matter what you say to me. I'm going to steal.

38:30

Yes. They are then convinced that you're going to

38:32

steal. So they just put split because why not you

38:35

also put split and then you share the money.

38:37

Yeah, but what if they say this way to give them money? Yeah,

38:39

I saw that that guy that that's that exists

38:41

that thing That video isn't it of that bloke

38:44

that I'm going to and then he in any splits. So

38:46

that's the only way to do it Is it there's no way

38:48

I mean, there's no there's no guaranteed but statistically

38:50

speaking. There's like some

38:53

if you basically say all split They won't believe

38:55

you and they'll either steal and

38:57

they'll take it

38:58

Yeah, basically, but as if

39:00

you say I'll steal they think well, there's no point in me

39:02

also putting steals I might as well put split

39:05

on the off chance and then most

39:07

of the time that statistically speaking Most people

39:09

will put split as their sort of fallback position.

39:12

It's ripped. Everything's a risk, right? Because you never

39:14

know what's gonna happen. But statistically that's your best chance

39:17

unless you genuinely think Daniel Levy

39:19

is gonna put split as well Which

39:21

he might I think so he would

39:23

play it would just play the numbers I think he

39:26

would I don't think he would be aggressive

39:28

in trying to get the money I think you would just play

39:30

the numbers so I would I would if

39:32

I was if me personally sitting in front

39:35

of Daniel Levy and

39:36

He was like and I had to make the decision.

39:38

I'd go honestly just tell me what to do I just like

39:41

I don't have the brain capacity deal with this. What

39:43

do you want me to do Daniel? We'll do that Okay, that's

39:45

what I'll be at what you know, we have a question here from

39:49

Debats she says is unveiling a blue

39:52

cane mural weeks before he bins us off

39:54

to join pot at Chelsea the most Spurs way

39:56

to end the season

39:58

I mean is like

40:01

they must know he's staying otherwise why

40:03

do the mural is

40:06

it via the club though no the club

40:08

involved in it it's a trusting

40:10

in it as I understand it

40:14

it's a bit tricky then to know whether or not that's cynical

40:17

move I always find it weird that Sun got one first

40:19

always thought that was a bit weird but yeah

40:21

it's like some has more player of the season awards than

40:24

Kane why is Kane

40:27

the second player to get a mural I

40:29

mean I guess it's like yeah

40:30

don't know it's weird I

40:33

mean look maybe it's another

40:35

thing of maybe it's not directly from the club but they've

40:37

sort of gone well we'll push it for

40:40

you because obviously it's another heart

40:42

string

40:43

pulling to try and get him to stay like the

40:46

talk of a statue and stuff like that we're running

40:48

out of tangible things to offer him yeah

40:51

can't give you trophy it's just so yeah I have a

40:53

stable can't we can't give you a success you want but

40:55

have you seen that mural it's pretty good

40:57

they've got a way we can't stick a statue up and if you

40:59

join Chelsea or another club

41:01

it's got to be a one club man in my opinion

41:04

in order to get a trophy yeah that's in

41:06

order to get a statue

41:08

yeah you've got I think that basically they should and

41:11

I don't know if I mentioned this before in a pod or said it's someone privately

41:14

I think basically they should go into contract renewal go right we'll give

41:16

you 400 grand a week for the next three years

41:18

or four years whatever you want and

41:20

as a part of that we will guarantee at the

41:22

end of your when you retire we

41:24

will build you a statue but

41:26

that means you can't join the following

41:29

clubs at the end of this contract right so if he ends up

41:31

going to City for like one year just wins

41:33

the Premier League that's fine you can still

41:35

have a trophy but you can't join Chelsea West

41:37

Ham Arsenal one of those

41:40

clubs yeah and then you've got in then for a guaranteed

41:42

like three or four years whatever the deal is worth you're

41:44

paying what he's worth he's still the best striker in

41:46

the world and then he gets he knows at

41:48

the end of it as long as I don't go to any of those clubs I'm gonna get

41:50

a statue at the club I've been at the whole time and

41:53

in those next three or four years you say to him look we're gonna we

41:55

can do everything we can to try and win something and

41:58

we'd love you to stay I think

41:59

I think if you offered him that, I think he might

42:02

sign because he's still got the option

42:04

at the end of that deal to be whatever, 34, 35 and

42:07

just come off the bench for City for a season and

42:09

win the league. Like it's not completely

42:11

close to him.

42:13

Yeah, yeah, you're right. I

42:15

agree. I just, I

42:18

mean, imagine if you leave and they're like, hang on a minute,

42:20

he's just seen them all, he's just

42:22

finished that mural. So what

42:25

do you mean you want to leave? Can I just come here, show

42:27

you this picture of his big

42:29

gourmet face? They

42:32

just edit it and make it look like Skip. Just

42:35

edit it a little bit. Go on, one of our own. Paint

42:38

over that then. If he leaves, is that paint

42:40

over that? Don't leave that out there.

42:43

Fucking hell. Well, we can make it look

42:45

a little bit like Skip. Yeah, all right. Let's

42:47

do that. Um, Rob

42:51

Cuff, he says, having a lot of builders, plumbers,

42:53

electrogens around mine doing work

42:55

recently made me think, who out of this Spurs

42:57

squad would you most want to be working

43:00

on your house and who would you least want to

43:02

be working on it? I feel like the most of

43:04

the squad would be fine, but I wouldn't want to lorise

43:06

on the job. Can imagine him dropping something

43:08

really expensive and go, never smoke every 15 minutes. I

43:11

um,

43:12

I'd really love to spend some

43:14

time with Emerson Royale.

43:16

Like he's somehow has gone from, I hated

43:18

his guts and never wanted to see his face again to I

43:20

really love him. Yeah,

43:23

mate. Do you think he'd

43:25

be good with his hands? Like

43:27

do you reckon he's practical though?

43:29

You mean wanking? He was talking about

43:31

banking?

43:32

Both, I guess. You know, after he's finished

43:34

with the plumbing, will he start on your plumbing?

43:37

That's the next question. On top

43:40

of the fact he was the one who said, I can't

43:42

handle you screaming anymore. Get the epidural.

43:46

And then he was like, that was an extra luxury.

43:48

We didn't agree. We budgeted for, you know,

43:50

however much and that's extra $6,000. You

43:53

cover that. That was for you.

43:56

Wow. Aren't men terrible?

43:59

At times. Why are men? Outrageous.

44:03

I know. Oh. I know. I

44:06

know. So yeah, that was probably the

44:08

only unanimous, you are

44:10

not an asshole in history. Like

44:12

there was not a single person who was like,

44:14

no, no, but let's hear him out. I'm

44:17

trying to understand. Let's play devil's advocate.

44:20

Let's hear the

44:21

bad side of the story. I want to

44:23

understand. Let's try and understand it. No,

44:25

no. It was like, A, you're not

44:27

the asshole. B, get divorced. Yeah.

44:30

I mean,

44:31

even just that arrangement that they'd come up with

44:33

is bizarre to me. To split the cost.

44:36

Yeah. No, I don't think that's fair. I

44:38

mean, if you live in a place where medical

44:41

bills like that are a reality and you're

44:43

both having a baby, you would split it.

44:45

Yeah, yeah. How would you want

44:47

to do it? I guess, yeah. Yeah. Like what other

44:49

way would you do it? I just, it's hard for

44:51

me to wrap my head around the idea of it costing thousands and thousands

44:53

of dollars. It's nuts. It's nuts.

44:56

To have a baby. I know. It's crazy.

44:58

Particularly in a country where they're making abortion

45:01

less and less accessible. I know. But then they make it so

45:03

hard and expensive. Because they don't care about

45:05

the bet. Like, they care about

45:08

policing women's bodies, not about the child itself. But

45:10

anyway, go back and listen to our episode on abortion. Great

45:13

quote by George Cullen that I can't remember right now. But

45:16

if you want to hear me say smart things, go

45:19

and listen to me quote a smart person in that

45:21

episode about abortion. Yeah.

45:24

So what a gem he sounds

45:26

like. What a prince. I know. Yeah. Yeah.

45:28

Recos? Oh

45:31

my gosh. I've consumed nothing since we've

45:33

been here. I recommend Safari. I recommend

45:35

South Africa. South Africa. Gee adventures.

45:38

Yes. I feel like the whole first half hour

45:40

of this was a great big reco. And it

45:42

comes from the bottom of my heart. This place

45:45

is just stunning. And

45:48

honestly, we, every step

45:50

of our tour has been phenomenal.

45:52

From, you know,

45:54

visiting the Spice Market. Oh my gosh. We went

45:56

to this incredible market in Durban, like the

45:58

proper, proper local. market,

46:00

because I like that. Yeah, like with all the bones

46:03

and special mixtures and

46:05

old school potions and

46:07

it was

46:08

crazy. We did so much cool

46:10

stuff. Just every

46:12

single step, every single guide we've had,

46:14

every experience has been phenomenal,

46:17

mind-blowing, mind-expanding, really.

46:19

I feel like quite a different person for the better,

46:21

change for the better.

46:22

It's been amazing. Well,

46:24

I have a TV show.

46:25

Oh, it's great.

46:27

Because of course I've still been watching

46:29

TV. I'll need something for the play. No,

46:31

mine's an old one. Oh, and a lot

46:33

of people got in touch to say they watched my reco

46:36

or had watched my reco. Oh, I'm a being, I'm

46:38

a being. And they also thought it was really like,

46:41

what the hell? Yeah. Yeah. So

46:43

it was, thank you for messaging me about it. Because I was like, yes, right?

46:46

What? Am I being unreasonable? Guys,

46:50

weird ending. But anyway, I've

46:52

been going back to an old show that I love,

46:54

because I do that to help me sleep when

46:57

I'm anxious or whatever. Boston

47:00

Legal.

47:01

I've been watching, yeah, it's on Disney

47:03

Plus now, because it wasn't on any streaming service

47:05

for a really long time. And I love that show so

47:07

much that I actually went and bought a

47:09

DVD player and the DVD box set

47:11

just so I could watch it.

47:14

But now it's on a streamer. It's

47:16

on Disney Plus. And it's so great. Boston

47:18

Legal is such a good show. William Shatner

47:20

and James Spader, if I remember correctly. Yes, James

47:23

Spader at his sexiest moment. And that's

47:25

on the law firm. They worked a lot. And that's

47:27

just dry humor, quirky. And James

47:29

Spader as Alan Shaw is like

47:31

your dream man.

47:32

He's basically like a progressive,

47:35

you know,

47:38

every case he does is like a big issue.

47:41

And he does these big inspiring closing

47:43

speeches where he says really smart

47:45

shit that makes you want to

47:49

jump on his pain. Yeah. Sexy

47:51

as. And then I have one other. This

47:54

is a weird true crime one. If

47:56

you love true crime and trigger warning, I guess

47:58

for this one, I would.

47:59

say domestic violence

48:02

is what I would call it. But

48:04

there's this show on Netflix called I

48:06

Am a Stalker. And

48:09

I've just sort of been watching it because

48:12

since we've been over here, the only streamer we get

48:14

is Netflix, like licensed in this country. So

48:16

I've been watching a lot of Netflix. And it's

48:19

called I Am a Stalker. And they interview

48:23

people who have been stalked each episode.

48:26

It's one case, but also the

48:28

person who stalked them.

48:29

And they're all in prison. All the

48:32

stalkers are in prison. But it's just

48:34

really fascinating to hear them

48:37

explain

48:37

why

48:41

they have done what they'd done and what

48:43

was going through their head and how they... It's

48:46

not justifying it. It's purely like,

48:48

that person is the victim. This is so effed up.

48:50

Let's hear what they have to say. It's more fascinating

48:53

to be like, whoa, you really

48:56

don't get it. A few

48:58

of them have seen that

49:01

what they did was wrong and are trying to change.

49:03

A few of them don't understand it. They're

49:05

like,

49:06

I loved her. I don't understand why she was

49:09

afraid of me. Yet I'm sitting here in jail. It's

49:12

really fascinating. But yeah, trigger warning

49:14

for just some tricky sort of... There's

49:16

some violence and abuse in a

49:18

few of the episodes. But it's

49:21

really fascinating. Because

49:24

we don't look into stalking as

49:26

a crime enough. I don't think it's taken seriously

49:28

enough. I don't think it's really considered

49:30

enough. It's almost like, oh,

49:33

they haven't done anything yet. So is

49:35

it a crime yet? And so this show is

49:37

really aiming to

49:39

show you how it is a really

49:41

distressing way to victimise someone

49:44

and how it should be considered a serious

49:46

crime. And so that's why all the people they

49:48

interviewed have gone to prison for stalking.

49:51

And it's so fascinating to just hear why

49:53

they did it

49:54

and

49:57

how they got to that place and what they

49:59

think about it. and yeah, it's a really good

50:01

true crime show. I'm gonna check

50:03

that out when I get home. I hope they end

50:05

up doing like spin-off series where

50:08

they would do, for example, like I

50:10

made an unrealistic demand

50:13

of a woman and get men like that husband.

50:15

And then, yeah, and it's not, and

50:18

just, it's not about getting them

50:20

to see the error

50:22

of their ways. It's purely about just putting

50:24

a camera in front of them and yeah,

50:26

and just going,

50:28

just explain to me. And that's

50:30

interesting to me. Like, it's so interesting.

50:32

It'd be so many different ways. Avenues,

50:35

they could take that down. Like putting a camera in front of someone going, so

50:37

why do you think she has to pay for the whole epidural?

50:40

That's it, yeah. Just give me your, just

50:42

say it in your words. We're not

50:44

gonna agree with you. Yeah, but we just wanna hear it. But we just

50:46

wanna understand your processes, A

50:49

to B to C.

50:49

So it is a, yeah, it's just a really fascinating

50:51

show, just a sort of classic true

50:53

crime interview

50:56

victims and perpetrators and really

50:58

good. Cool. And

51:01

a couple of women in there too. It's not all men. There's

51:03

also a couple of women. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

51:05

There's two episodes that where the women are the

51:07

stalkers and they're really interesting

51:09

too, the dynamics of what goes into that. Cool,

51:12

gripping stuff. We

51:15

now have an appointment. We've gotta go

51:17

and see from a big cat expert

51:20

who works in a preserve

51:23

area.

51:24

Kind of like the good version

51:26

of Carole Baskin. Yes. That's what we're about

51:28

to go meet this guy. Yeah. We'll

51:31

learn more about it and we'll share it with you. But

51:33

yeah, they're doing a lot to help rehabilitate

51:35

the population of the big cats that were hunted almost

51:37

to extinction here, which we've now

51:39

seen in the wild and they are so

51:42

incredibly beautiful. Boys

51:43

and girls and cubs and we throw a leopard and

51:45

we've seen cheaters, we've seen all the things. Oh my God. This

51:48

morning it was three brother cheaters who formed this

51:50

little pack and they were hunting a wildebeest.

51:53

We've got a, this too much.

51:53

Oh, okay. We've got a guy, we'll talk for

51:56

it. It's all on the Insta. We're posting, we're posting, we're

51:58

posting. Thank you again to Adele.

51:59

for just being so lovely and sending us here and

52:02

G Adventures in South Africa Tourism. We just can't

52:04

believe how lucky we are to have done this. And thank

52:07

you for the amount of lovely

52:09

messages we've got from Jistner saying,

52:11

it is so nice to see you

52:14

and Jacob having a nice time and having

52:16

a nice break. Like you guys deserve it. This is

52:18

really lovely. Like that has just been really nice

52:20

of you guys to say, cause you do always feel a

52:22

bit weird like going away for a couple of weeks

52:25

and having to put up a couple of greatest hits episodes,

52:27

which by the way, are still good because

52:29

like people have missed them and stuff. They never

52:31

get old. But you know, so you do think, oh

52:33

no, like, oh, we're letting people

52:35

down by going away for a couple of weeks. But literally

52:38

not as like everybody has just

52:40

been like, it's so great to see you guys having

52:43

a lovely time, which is just so nice of you. Just

52:45

as of the best, you guys are lovely. Thank you.

52:47

But back to regular programming ASAP cause

52:49

we're leaving a couple of days. So.

52:51

Absolutely. Oh, we've got something wildlife themed coming

52:53

up next week. Oh we do. We do.

52:56

Yes. I have such

52:58

a crush

52:58

on you. Oh, I have a crush on you too. He's

53:00

cute.

53:01

So adorable. So adorable.

53:04

We might try to get a cheeky photo of him and post it to

53:06

you. And Gavin. I also have a crush on

53:08

Gavin. Oh, yes. Okay, we're

53:10

going to go. Bye bye bye. Bye bye bye.

53:12

Bye bye bye. Bye bye bye. Bye

53:14

bye bye. Bye bye bye. Fingers

53:20

crossed. There's a question here

53:22

about what would we do? I can't find it now. But

53:24

what would we do to watch, to ensure

53:26

that Spurs play like

53:53

I mean, he's the representation

53:55

of God on earth. Imagine the hand job. It's

53:58

going to be unbelievable.

53:59

out of this world. Eventually.

54:05

I mean, if I said to

54:07

you, you need to give a random man

54:09

a blowjob every day for an entire

54:12

year. To

54:13

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54:15

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55:15

Nah. That's... Nah.

55:17

I mean... It's a bit selfish. For an entire

55:19

whole year, that's... It is a bit selfish. 365 blowjobs to 356 different men.

55:21

All of them with different demands.

55:27

Yeah. It's a lot. Like, ratio for

55:29

my lifetime. It's just like... The data is basically like

55:31

nothing. And then just a shoot enormous

55:34

spike. And they're like, what happened in that year? We beat

55:36

Arsenal 4-0. Seems excessive. You

55:42

didn't get... That's what you're barging for. You didn't

55:44

bargain for 100 million. You didn't bargain

55:46

for eternal life or health or your family. You

55:48

took that for a 4-0 demolition of Arsenal

55:51

at home. Seems excessive. The

55:54

thing is as well, you'd have to explain it to your friends

55:56

and that.

55:57

Because you'd have to go off at something.

55:59

take 15 minutes it might take five minutes depends

56:02

on the bloke I guess but

56:04

you have to go to your wife where you going Christmas day

56:06

dinner's ready where you

56:10

going oh fuck I forgot about him ding

56:18

dong oh

56:21

fuck fucking diehards

56:23

just died Hans

56:26

Grover about to go off the Nakatomi Tower and I've got a

56:28

notch to squeeze her off fuck's

56:31

sake you're right down you plot to the front door

56:33

you come in you just take

56:34

your butt hand and walk him into the bedroom

56:37

making small talk alright mate I wish you Christmas morning any

56:39

good what'd you get hopefully

56:42

links Africa body body wash because

56:46

do you have

56:49

to do this well

56:51

I did I kind of agreed we did beat Arsenal

56:54

4-0 4-0 you beat them

56:56

5-1 in 2008 you already

56:58

experienced this it was great

57:00

oh um

57:04

Raspersis would you be happy would

57:07

you be happy moving on from Enoch if

57:09

it meant an oil state ownership would

57:11

be your would be happy

57:14

with potential success if it came as

57:16

a result of us joining the group of money cheating

57:18

clubs that what

57:21

that wasn't well written brass is confusing for me but

57:24

I would say that are we happy to

57:26

become one of those clubs and move

57:29

Enoch on

57:31

I mean everyone

57:32

I mean it's everyone's doing it

57:34

in it yeah

57:37

I used I used to care about like morals

57:39

and that but what's the alternative thing

57:42

we don't do it

57:43

what happened if we don't do it

57:45

what we just get left behind yeah

57:47

man there's no um there's

57:50

no prizes for trying to do it the right way I

57:52

mean look at what's happened with with

57:54

us right we quote-unquote tried

57:56

to do it the right way right organic growth built

57:59

the stadium and

57:59

like spent really cautiously and did

58:02

it all the right way. We got no credit

58:04

for that. And in fact, get slandered

58:07

all the time about bottling, even though

58:09

we were, you know, never really at the top of

58:11

the pyramid being able to do that. Just on that very

58:13

quickly, mate,

58:14

why is everyone making exceptions for Arsenal now,

58:16

it feels like. It's mental, isn't it? It is madness,

58:19

mate. Oh no, some of them

58:21

have been incredible, like, oh, they weren't expected

58:24

to do it, so that's not bottling. Right, so if we get

58:26

to a final, you're 400-0 up, but

58:28

you weren't the favourite, and then you lose 401 to 400. You

58:31

haven't bottled it because you weren't expected to win it. What

58:34

are you talking about? If you have a lead, a

58:36

big lead, and you're on top for ages,

58:38

and then you choke against West Ham,

58:40

Southampton, and Brighton, you fucking

58:43

bottled it, mate. That's the wrong way round it. That's

58:45

the reason why you didn't win the

58:46

league. Nothing to do with City. I mean, City were incredible,

58:49

but if you would have won your games, you would have won them. You

58:51

would have won the league. One of the games you're supposed to win as well, it wasn't like,

58:53

you know, they lost to us, United,

58:55

whatever. Those are

58:58

games they should have won unless you've

59:00

bottled it because you couldn't hack the... They were tuning

59:02

up against West Ham. And this is

59:04

coming from the media as well. It's like they can't

59:06

buy a look, they weren't expected to. The only one

59:08

who stopped with it is Roy Keane. He goes, of course they were.

59:11

Of course. They were ahead. They

59:14

fucked it up. Then of course they bottled

59:16

it.

59:16

Whereas, Gary was like, oh, well, you know,

59:18

who is it? No, Mark Goldbridge.

59:21

They didn't bottle it because they would have needed

59:25

90, 95 points to beat Manchester City.

59:28

They were ahead. They were

59:30

top of the league. 80% of

59:32

the season, they're there about. So they don't know exactly. Was

59:35

it? Was it? 90% of the season

59:38

and now they fucked it up at the end.

59:40

So I don't understand why people are walking around,

59:43

you know, just trying to make excuses for them. What?

59:46

Why? The thing for me, mate, is, okay,

59:48

let's riddle this out. Okay,

59:51

I'll accept that they

59:53

haven't bottled it. Then no one's

59:55

ever bottled anything. So I suppose so.

59:57

I want apologies. Exactly. I want apologies.

1:00:00

for us bottling the Champions League. I want apologies

1:00:02

for us bottling the title against Leicester

1:00:05

where we were never top

1:00:07

ever. We were never top. I'll tell you where

1:00:09

we were top for. We were top for about like an hour

1:00:11

weren't we? Yeah, no about 15 minutes

1:00:13

against Arsenal. We were 2-1 up and they drew them

1:00:15

and then we didn't. Yeah so that's what it was.

1:00:18

So I want apologies for that. So basically

1:00:20

Spursy doesn't exist because we can't

1:00:22

have bottled it because this is way worse

1:00:25

than anything we've so-called bottled. This

1:00:27

is much worse. So if this isn't bottling then

1:00:29

basically bottling just isn't a thing. It's just

1:00:32

losing. Yes. And I'm alright with

1:00:34

that but I want formal apologies

1:00:36

from every fan who's ever tweeted,

1:00:38

said or mentioned us bottling anything or

1:00:41

used the word Spursy in a pejorative manner

1:00:43

because if this isn't a bottle

1:00:46

in then nothing, I mean nothing

1:00:48

has ever been bottled because it's

1:00:50

the definition of it. You've had a massive lead for the longest

1:00:52

amount of time and you dropped points against

1:00:55

teams you were supposed to win. If that isn't

1:00:57

bottling it then no one has bottled

1:00:59

anything ever. Precisely John. It

1:01:02

is nonsense. It's funny how this all started with us

1:01:04

as well.

1:01:05

Yeah weird that isn't it. Yeah. Fucking

1:01:09

bullshit mate. The narrative's absolutely mad

1:01:11

to me and no matter what they say

1:01:13

I'm not letting it go mate. I am relentlessly going

1:01:16

to enjoy the fact that they've bottled this. There's nothing

1:01:18

they can say to me and I noticed it

1:01:20

the other day and it really, I actually really enjoyed it. I got

1:01:22

someone in like a in a twist

1:01:25

of their own words right where I said

1:01:27

bottled it and they were like well we haven't

1:01:29

bottled it because x y and z reasons

1:01:31

and I was like well that doesn't make any sense because

1:01:33

you had to leave for the longest amount of time and then

1:01:36

you know throwing away the points right by definition

1:01:38

you've bottled it and you went well at least I know what it's like

1:01:40

to be in a title race so I was like oh

1:01:42

okay so you're admitting then that we that

1:01:45

we've never been in a title race therefore we could have never

1:01:47

bottled it

1:01:48

and it literally just like the

1:01:50

dot of like thinking I think I

1:01:52

broke his brain because he was like oh so now I have

1:01:54

to basically accept that burrs didn't

1:01:56

bottle it even though I've been saying they've bottled in it for years

1:01:59

so make

1:01:59

your minds up either we didn't bottle it and

1:02:03

you didn't bottle it or you fucking

1:02:05

bottled it in the most tremendous way. We didn't

1:02:07

bottle it and they did we never had it to

1:02:09

bottle we were never we were always chasing.

1:02:12

If we're gonna wear it if we're somehow wearing this

1:02:14

magical bottling cape you're

1:02:17

definitely wearing it for the entirety

1:02:19

of the rest of your lives I'm never letting this go

1:02:21

and don't ever think you can hurt me by going well what you're

1:02:24

doing shit you're gonna finish up I couldn't give a fuck

1:02:26

mate if we finish one place above the bottom

1:02:28

of the table

1:02:29

you've bottled it and it's tremendous

1:02:32

the biggest bottling of all time yeah 100% 100% and

1:02:35

and

1:02:37

the reality is that no it doesn't matter

1:02:39

what Sky says or what Mark Goldbridge says

1:02:42

this is we decide whether they've

1:02:44

bottled it yeah they don't get to decide they have to

1:02:46

wear it

1:02:47

they've got to wear what we decide to put

1:02:49

on them right so

1:02:52

and and and as a nation

1:02:54

of football fans there

1:02:56

are very few out there

1:02:58

that don't think that Arsenal bottled it anyway

1:03:01

the final question before you go John the sea

1:03:03

spider he says how would

1:03:05

you describe being a Spurs fan to someone who knows

1:03:07

nothing about football

1:03:11

it's it's character

1:03:13

building stuff imagine the

1:03:19

it's like it's like being

1:03:21

with a bird that you fancy and

1:03:24

she never ever ever gives

1:03:26

out

1:03:28

friend zone for life with a well not even

1:03:31

friend zone because occasionally you get to touch

1:03:33

her boobs and that and

1:03:35

maybe you

1:03:36

know

1:03:38

might touch a bum sometimes but

1:03:41

by and large you get nothing

1:03:43

or worse I was like an abusive relationship

1:03:46

that you can't escape yeah

1:03:48

that's quite nasty yeah I would say put

1:03:51

it into TV terms we're basically like Christopher

1:03:54

multi Santi from Sopranos where

1:03:57

we're very close to the top of the crime

1:03:59

family and when

1:03:59

it's going right we're like yes finally we're

1:04:02

gonna make it we're gonna do it and then we sit

1:04:04

on a dog and become a heroin addict

1:04:06

or get lost in the woods chasing after

1:04:08

a you know some sort of mad

1:04:11

Russian guy so yeah we're

1:04:13

sort of always there or thereabouts but

1:04:15

we never quite end up getting on top

1:04:18

and things often go drastically wrong

1:04:20

for us yeah I would say

1:04:22

that. What's the bit with Chris

1:04:25

Christopher and Sal who's

1:04:27

the guy gets lost in the woods with? Paulie.

1:04:30

Paulie and he's going

1:04:33

he says something to Paulie he's like

1:04:36

everything's so shit and Paulie's like yeah it

1:04:38

is we're gonna do about it. Something

1:04:40

I love along those lines. Yeah it's

1:04:43

when they're basically they're sitting Chris

1:04:46

is having a crisis of confidence and he says to him Paulie

1:04:48

do you ever feel like nothing in your life is

1:04:50

gonna work out well or something like that nothing

1:04:53

ever good's gonna happen to you and he was like

1:04:55

yeah and nothing did so on. That

1:05:00

is it. That is spurs in a nutshell. That stomachal

1:05:02

attitude is is a fundamentally what you

1:05:05

need to be a Spurs fan.

1:05:06

Yeah. And on that note we'll leave

1:05:08

it thank you very much John Boy amazing as always

1:05:11

and to everybody else we'll be back

1:05:14

next Monday for

1:05:16

more

1:05:18

more talking about Spurs

1:05:20

the never-ending existential crisis

1:05:23

that we find ourselves in. Football never

1:05:26

ends you know it never ends no matter if we win

1:05:28

there'll

1:05:29

always be the season after but we'll want to win again

1:05:31

and then

1:05:33

at the end it's never ending.

1:05:37

Never ending. Just remember Arsenal did ball

1:05:39

it. They ball it massively. Forever they

1:05:42

balled it. Dirty. They balled it forever. Done it again!

1:05:45

Done it again you bastards!

1:05:51

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