0:22

Hey, Ben. How are you?

0:24

Hey Gene. I'm a little sunburnt.

0:27

You're a little sunburned and my feet are a little sore.

0:30

Yeah. I forgot Sreed yesterday

0:33

and that was a bad move.

0:36

Yeah, so yesterday

0:38

you and I actually got together

0:40

in person

0:41

We did, we did. Rare, rare,

0:44

rare occurrence.

0:45

think the last time was about six months ago

0:47

Yeah. And it's been a

0:48

when I was getting rabbits.

0:50

Yes, sir.

0:51

We got together at the Trump rally, got

0:54

some photos, some videos.

0:56

Yeah. The man made a grand

0:59

entrance, that's for sure.

1:00

It is pretty cool to fly your own airplane

1:03

into an airport you just

1:05

rented.

1:06

Well, and not only that, but the fact that

1:08

he was allowed to circle and

1:10

buzz the crowd,

1:12

I know

1:13

you know, I mean, it's impressive. You

1:15

gotta give him that. That's impressive.

1:17

no purpose other than being impressive.

1:19

Yeah. Other than

1:22

Mm-hmm. well,

1:24

and I think people were happy, although clearly

1:26

everybody was pretty damn tired of standing.

1:28

That's the, the complaint there

1:30

for me. Well, two major complaints. One,

1:33

the biggest complaint was the situation

1:36

with two hour long lines to get drinks

1:39

or food, which didn't really get any food.

1:41

Just get some drinks. But

1:43

the other one was they didn't let you

1:46

actually bring your chairs in

1:49

to be able to sit there.

1:50

yeah, let, let's back up a little bit because

1:52

you and I had two very different experiences.

1:55

I left much earlier and got

1:57

there earlier than you did and

2:00

was in line for hours.

2:02

Secret service, I had forgotten to take

2:04

my pocket knife out, so I had to stash

2:06

it somewhere and I, I luckily got it back,

2:09

but Secret Service went through them. All that

2:12

you show up and you just kinda

2:14

ran through the line.

2:16

Yeah. We walked in probably about half an hour

2:18

apart if that, even though

2:20

I left the house like an hour and a half later,

2:23

exactly. But chairs were not allowed

2:25

in. You weren't allowed in to bring in

2:27

any of your own water, which was problematic.

2:30

bullshit. That was bullshit.

2:31

Well, it, it, it was problematic because,

2:33

I mean, while I was waiting on you to

2:35

come in, there were several people who dropped

2:37

around me, like they

2:40

were older. They were in their sixties or seventies

2:42

and it wasn't that bad of a day. I mean, it was under 80

2:44

degrees. It

2:45

got up to

2:46

high seventies. Nice breeze. 30%

2:49

humidity. But that's the problem.

2:51

It was 30% humidity. So if you're not used

2:53

to being outside and you

2:56

know you, it, it was a day to

2:58

easily get dehydrated and the vulnerable

3:00

people were dropping which they had medical

3:02

care and were taken care of. But

3:05

it was one of those things that had, people had chairs,

3:08

had they been able to bring in their own water, had the lines

3:10

for the water and other drinks

3:12

not been an hour plus long.

3:15

Yeah.

3:16

You know, and by the way, they had this

3:18

us on the tarmac, so

3:20

you've got the heat rebounding effect and everything else.

3:23

And that was the other question cuz a lot of people were

3:25

asking, why aren't we on the grass?

3:27

Yes.

3:28

Mm-hmm. Yeah,

3:30

I agree with all that.

3:32

I I'm glad I got there early and

3:34

I'm happy for my sunburn, which

3:36

only my face is really burned. I'm like, my

3:38

arms, my legs fine. My

3:40

Now, if y'all want to imagine what

3:42

Ben looks like right now, just watch

3:44

a South Park any episode that has

3:47

PC principle in it because

3:51

PC principle has a certain suntan

3:53

on his face. And that's exactly

3:55

the suntan.

3:56

yesterday

3:57

You were wearing, you were wearing very very

3:59

bro sunglasses.

4:02

bro. Sunglasses. Really?

4:04

Mm-hmm.

4:06

How are Maui gems, bro? Sunglasses.

4:08

I.

4:09

the, the tan line that they left

4:11

is right out of South Park. That's all I can

4:14

Thanks, gene.

4:15

mm-hmm.

4:16

Anyway, I got to talk to a bunch of different

4:18

people in the line and you

4:21

know, we, it was, it was a good thing.

4:23

By the time Gene showed up, I

4:25

had already made a few new friends

4:27

and interestingly

4:27

buy new friends

4:29

I'm sorry

4:30

and I had to buy new friends,

4:31

you did, but you know, it, it,

4:34

it was appreciated by everybody. So Gene

4:36

shows up and went to the drink line

4:38

that I refused to go to and shows up with a case

4:41

of lemon chills and starts handing

4:43

'em out. And he, he was needless

4:45

to say, very popular after that. But

4:47

it, it was interesting cause I kept asking people, so

4:49

who do you want for vice president? Who do you want for president?

4:51

Who else would you vote for? And

4:54

a glowy question at all,

4:56

why? Why is that a glowy

4:58

because they're trying to assess things.

5:00

Oh, no, no, no. It's just me

5:02

wanting content for the show. But it's interesting

5:04

because everyone said DeSantis

5:06

is who else they would vote for. But

5:09

here's the thing I said,

5:12

oh, so would you vote, ever vote for him over

5:14

Trump? No, never.

5:15

Mm-hmm.

5:17

You know, it's if something happened to Trump

5:19

and Trump wasn't there, fine.

5:21

DeSantis, but no, no,

5:23

no, no. Trump's the guy.

5:24

So this brings an

5:27

interesting problem, I think or potential

5:30

problem for people which. As

5:33

Trump starts to ratchet up

5:35

the attacks on Desant, which

5:37

he's, you know, doing, but not that

5:40

bad

5:40

One of the first things he talked about yesterday

5:42

But he's gonna definitely ratchet him up.

5:45

and to, to be clear that

5:47

the attack he had on

5:49

DeSantis yesterday was

5:52

really not so much an attack. More like

5:54

him saying that he felt

5:56

that DeSantis was disloyal.

5:59

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Which,

6:01

what the fuck's that supposed to be. You're running against

6:03

people for an office. Of course.

6:05

There's not gonna be loyalty in other

6:07

people running against you.

6:09

Yeah. Trump has his own thoughts on

6:11

Mm-hmm. Anyway.

6:13

Here's the danger, I think is, let's say that

6:16

Trump manages

6:18

to do the same thing he did the

6:20

first time that he won and

6:22

really kind of pushed the rest of

6:24

the candidates. And I don't even know who

6:26

else other than DeSantis is gonna be in the, in

6:28

the mix. Oh, I guess that Indian guy

6:31

is Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who actually, I

6:33

like what he has to say,

6:34

Oh, he's gonna be a great cabinet

6:36

he just unqualified right now. Yeah.

6:38

I, I won't say he's unqualified. He

6:40

is as qualified as Trump was in 2016.

6:43

Yes.

6:44

No, I don't think so. He's half the age

6:46

of Trump.

6:47

Yes, but he's also run several businesses,

6:49

done several things and,

6:51

Yes, but not enough. Is he a billion?

6:53

A hundred, a hundred millionaire.

6:55

that's not enough. So

6:57

But Ramaswami has a

7:00

lot of, I mean, he

7:03

is extremely libertarian

7:06

in lots of

7:06

Yeah, he, he is,

7:08

policies and what he's saying is brilliant.

7:10

he's gonna lose the Pakistani vote.

7:13

such a big, such a big contingent

7:15

at one yesterday.

7:17

yes we were. It was great food. I would recommend

7:19

anyone listening go and watch

7:21

either the Peterson interview or the Glen

7:23

Beck interview. Both are fantastic.

7:25

they're, they're good. I,

7:26

is great.

7:27

I like Ramas shorty. I like what he has to say, but

7:29

I just feel like he needs more, more

7:33

experience before he should can run for

7:35

that size

7:36

I mean, I mean, it doesn't matter at this point. Trump

7:38

is going to win the Republican nomination.

7:40

Well, maybe not. So

7:43

there's a few things that could happen, and this is

7:45

a point I was getting to, is that if Trump

7:47

is doing well and he pushes other

7:49

people out of the way, and, and he does that

7:51

by kind of throwing

7:53

him in the mud to make them less

7:56

desirable and

7:58

then Trump has a card tech, and

8:00

now who's gonna run? Are

8:03

we gonna do the same thing the Democrats did and take

8:05

a guy that's gonna be in the hospital and

8:07

keep him on the ticket and

8:10

hope that he gets better?

8:14

Or are we going to vote

8:16

for somebody that's healthier? And

8:19

if we are, after all the mud slinging,

8:23

the Democrats are gonna have an easier

8:25

time defeating

8:28

that candidate.

8:29

All right. Well,

8:31

Now, I'm not saying this is what I believe. I'm saying this

8:33

is a potential theory.

8:36

I, I don't think that that's something

8:38

to necessarily worry about.

8:40

Statistically, Trump is more likely

8:42

than not to have a medical issue

8:44

at some point, either before or during

8:46

the first year of being in office. If

8:48

he were in office.

8:50

why is

8:50

at the, because if you look at the age

8:52

of people of his age, over

8:55

half of them are dead right now. And the

8:57

ones that aren't dead are at a high

9:00

risk for medical things.

9:02

All right. So this is one of those things

9:04

that you gotta give Trump credit for.

9:06

The, the guy is actually for

9:09

someone his age in pretty

9:11

damn good shape. People call him fat.

9:13

People say lots of things, but after

9:16

a certain age, being a little fluffy

9:19

is actually a good thing because it means

9:21

if you do get sick, if something happens, you're

9:23

more likely to be able to rebound. Being

9:25

skinny and old is not a

9:26

Mm-hmm.

9:29

but he's. In

9:31

good shape. He does

9:35

exercise, you know, you know, someone

9:37

yelled, Trump works out yesterday,

9:40

and I was like, yeah, golf swings. You

9:42

know, that is actually pretty significant.

9:44

He's very, I mean, that's

9:46

stretching, that's limber, that's lots

9:48

of things.

9:49

how old was the queen when she died? 120.

9:53

Something like that. Yeah. Why?

9:57

Well, I mean,

9:59

Well, do

9:59

true for Biden too, right? It's, it's

10:02

just

10:02

the

10:03

start Yeah.

10:05

When you start getting up there in,

10:08

into your eighties. Whose 96?

10:11

He, she was 96.

10:13

She was 96. Interesting. Trump's

10:15

dad, Fred also died at 96.

10:18

Yeah.

10:19

So who's the lizard now?

10:22

Well, I, you know, I think Trump has

10:24

plenty of vigor left in him. He

10:26

showed it yesterday in lots of ways. Now,

10:29

you pointed out towards the end of his speech, he started,

10:31

you know, losing a little energy.

10:34

And I,

10:34

back and I went back and watched the Cpan

10:37

mm-hmm.

10:38

video, and I, it

10:40

wasn't as obvious to me

10:43

on the CSPAN video,

10:44

But you were there

10:45

right, right, right. Wait. But I think

10:48

that was more, so

10:50

I, one, one of the things that happened

10:52

was because Trump was an hour, we

10:55

were on hot tarmac. People had been there.

10:57

I

10:57

All day.

10:58

Literally the news, Waco News

11:00

said people were showing up at 6:00 AM for this.

11:02

Right?

11:03

God.

11:04

So those are

11:06

the hardcore, the hardcore man. You know, people

11:08

had been there all day. So about, I'd

11:11

say about 30 minutes into his speech

11:13

some of the older people started to leave about

11:16

an hour, hour and 20 into his

11:18

speech. People started to file

11:20

out in earnest. And this was a two hour speech.

11:22

Even Gene and I left a little early cuz

11:24

we're like, well, traffic. And, you

11:26

know, and I, I think the

11:29

perception we had leaving

11:31

was based off of what we saw. But

11:34

just watching the video where you

11:36

don't see people leaving the CSPAN stuff

11:38

just shows the him and the people behind

11:41

him.

11:41

Mm-hmm.

11:42

Which we were not behind him. We were behind

11:44

the cameras, which the vast,

11:47

vast majority of the

11:48

right next to the cameras.

11:49

Yes. I, I think that was, that was

11:51

a trick of that perception because we saw

11:53

people leaving and that's, Hey, that's

11:56

just my opinion.

11:58

Could be.

11:59

I'd encourage you to re-listen to his speech

12:01

because I, I caught

12:02

yeah, I definitely I'm planning on

12:04

doing that for sure because

12:06

We should talk about January 6th.

12:09

yeah. Well,

12:10

Holy shit. Did he lead into

12:12

He did lead into it and I sent you the

12:14

copy of the video too. I

12:15

Yeah. I actually had sent it to you right before

12:17

you sent it to me. We sent it, right? It's

12:20

about the same time

12:22

too funny. Great. Mindy alike.

12:24

Exactly.

12:24

But he, I think

12:27

they played the video as

12:29

the plane was pulling up or

12:32

right after they opened the door to the plane. So

12:34

it was basically the,

12:35

No, it was right after he took the stage.

12:37

So he walked on stage to

12:40

I'm proud

12:40

still in line to get the, the water at that

12:42

point.

12:43

Yeah, he, he walked on stage

12:45

he declaimed and walked onto stage to,

12:48

I'm proud to be an American. And then immediately

12:50

went into this video, which is freedom

12:53

or justice for all by the January

12:55

6th choir.

12:58

prison choir.

12:59

choir. Yes. And everyone should go to YouTube

13:02

and look up this video because holy

13:05

shit

13:05

Yeah. We'll, we'll I'll take a link into the podcast

13:08

notes as well. But yeah, it's it's a definite

13:11

departure from what we've seen from Trump in the

13:13

past, kinda distancing himself from

13:15

Jan six and really falling back on

13:17

the old line of, you know,

13:20

I did not tell people to go into that building.

13:22

In this video. It is basically

13:24

a video of the

13:27

January 6th events. Yeah. And

13:30

including a shot of Ashley Babbage getting shot,

13:32

Yep. And this was on the

13:34

holy.

13:35

in front of the crowd?

13:36

For the, for the, you know, huge

13:38

what I estimate. Oh, did they say, I wonder if

13:40

they said how big the crowd was. I kinda

13:42

estimated at about 12,000

13:44

people.

13:46

Yeah. The official estimate I saw

13:48

was around 15.

13:50

Mm-hmm.

13:52

So it, it was a decent size

13:54

event even, because I know that was the pre-event

13:56

estimate,

13:56

The pre-event was 17.

13:58

Oh, okay. Yeah.

14:00

So good size crowds you

14:03

know, just not enough food trucks with

14:05

water. It was about a thousand people per

14:07

food truck,

14:08

Yeah. So the, the problem

14:10

there was apparently they had invited a bunch

14:12

and I validated this with news sources

14:15

and then a bunch of the food trucks decided to back

14:17

out, which I don't know why

14:19

they would do that, because every food truck

14:21

that was there made bank.

14:23

insane amount of money. Yeah, so I heard a similar

14:25

story with the twist of that.

14:28

What happened was when they, they were

14:30

getting bids for food trucks.

14:32

They had a whole bunch of 'em that basically lowballed

14:35

them because they, they were doing this

14:37

strictly to fuck with

14:39

Trump. And so, they had no

14:41

intention of ever coming out. And

14:44

so there was a, a contingency

14:47

of food trucks that were supposed

14:49

to be there that were never

14:51

intending on showing up. And so what they had

14:53

left was. Whatever

14:56

they could scramble that morning. And

14:58

I guess whoever got

15:01

in there with their original bids that

15:03

was not part of that whole cabal.

15:06

Now, why the hell would there need to

15:08

be a bid?

15:11

Oh, well you think the event doesn't make money off the food trucks?

15:15

No. You

15:16

okay. I I, I was, I was reading it the

15:18

other way, like the event was paying

15:20

No, no, no, no, no. The way it usually works

15:22

is you'll, you'll have like, we have 12

15:24

places for food here,

15:27

so we're gonna charge you know,

15:29

a minimum of 4,000 bucks per truck

15:32

to allow you guys to be here. And

15:34

then whoever the top 12

15:37

bidders are above 4,000

15:39

bucks will get that. So I guess

15:42

they were high bids, not low bids, but

15:44

whatever it is there. The,

15:47

the story I heard, which again, who the hell

15:49

knows cuz I was standing in line while people

15:51

were talking about this was that they

15:53

had at least half the trucks

15:56

just cancel at the same

15:58

exact time in the morning.

16:00

Hmm. That, that's surprising for

16:03

McClean County because McClean County

16:05

is the reddest of the

16:06

They, they were likely coming from Dallas

16:09

Yeah,

16:09

or, or you know, other cities

16:11

or Austin for that matter. I

16:14

know that, you know, Austin's got a shit ton of

16:16

food trucks. It's one thing that the liberal culture

16:18

always seems to drag with it is you know,

16:20

Seattle and San Francisco lifestyle.

16:23

So let's get back to the January 6th video.

16:25

Yeah.

16:26

I don't know how he got the food trucks from there,

16:28

Well, cuz I, I don't know. I was hungry. Maybe.

16:30

Go ahead.

16:32

No. I mean, this, this, so

16:34

it's a song that has hit number

16:36

one on Apple

16:38

kidding.

16:39

No, no. It absolutely has. Google

16:41

shit.

16:42

They released it two weeks ago. No one

16:44

has really seen, I hadn't seen it or anything,

16:46

but it has hit the top of the charts.

16:49

And it's,

16:50

Oh, that sucks. For Tim Pool. He just released

16:52

his new song.

16:53

well, temple Song sucks, but yeah.

16:56

Oh. They all suck, but I still by 'em.

16:58

Good for you. You're, you are

17:00

a true fan boy. I am not. But this,

17:04

the song itself is, eh, okay.

17:06

But the video man, Like

17:09

you said, Ashley Babbitt getting shot

17:12

on the

17:12

Mm-hmm.

17:13

leaning very hard

17:14

I mean, that is what the kids like, they like watching

17:17

those rap tunes with actual shootings

17:19

on 'em.

17:19

yeah. The, I mean, but the,

17:21

the, the, the title of this song

17:23

is Justice for All and it's very

17:25

much leaning into the idea that January

17:28

6th is not being

17:30

prosecuted fairly. And

17:32

that is one of the things Trump, LA

17:35

laid into very early on in the

17:37

speech.

17:38

Which is great because I, I

17:40

think that is a, a smart move

17:43

for his handlers to push 'em towards rather

17:45

than trying to backway. There's there's

17:47

another thing there, which is he

17:50

did not, and you know, I

17:52

haven't re-watched it. Some you tell me, maybe

17:54

I missed it, but he did not mention

17:57

Covid at all.

17:59

He, he did not, not

18:01

that I, well, and when I rewatched,

18:03

this was between 11 and

18:05

1:00 AM last night after I got home, so

18:08

I may have missed something.

18:10

But I don't think he did. I didn't hear him say that.

18:12

No, but he did apologize

18:15

and say he made mistakes

18:17

on who he trusted and hired and

18:19

that now he knows better and would

18:20

Well, that's just a fact. I mean, he just sucks

18:23

in hiring.

18:24

N n I don't know that he sucks at hiring.

18:26

I think he

18:28

Why do you think he got so much experience

18:30

firing people? Cuz he sucks in.

18:32

Well, fair enough. But anyway,

18:35

he, he made some good campaign promises.

18:38

He addressed a lot

18:40

of the concerns. He

18:42

laid out his 10 point plan that he

18:44

is talked about very well. You

18:46

know, he's talked about term limits

18:49

for Congress. He's talked about term

18:51

limits for the deep state. So

18:53

basically bureaucrats only have

18:55

eight years. Basically everybody only has

18:57

eight years. If you're gonna work in the federal government,

18:59

you have eight years.

19:00

Yeah. Which I love that idea.

19:02

I've been saying that for a long time, that we

19:05

need term limits on both

19:07

politicians and bureaucrats.

19:10

Yes. He's also talked

19:12

about using Title F to

19:15

absolutely gut the federal government, which I love.

19:17

You know, lots and lots of good things there.

19:20

The the only real weakness

19:22

I saw in the speech from a, okay,

19:24

I don't really care, I don't want to hear

19:26

this, was Theis

19:29

jab. I mean, that was a

19:31

weak ass story told in, and,

19:35

you know, two wandering and everything else.

19:37

So I thought he called DeSantis a

19:39

crack user. Apparently.

19:41

that was about

19:42

So somebody told me that no, it wasn't

19:45

about Hunter, it was about some other

19:47

associated defense.

19:49

Oh

19:49

that,

19:50

Hmm. No, it was about the guy

19:52

DeSantis beat.

19:54

yes, that's what, that's what it was. Yeah. The

19:56

guy sent

19:57

I'm, I'm, I'm, he also talked about

19:59

Hunter using crack in the speech. That's why I was

20:01

confused.

20:02

Oh, okay. Yeah. I didn't hear that at all

20:04

actually. But,

20:05

The laptop from hell,

20:07

but I thought he did say dissent. This was a crack.

20:09

And I thought, well, that might be going too far now, But

20:12

no, it was all good. I think I think

20:15

he did a,

20:16

of the dirt he has on DeSantis

20:18

it, why he, so everybody

20:20

gives Trump crap about Des Sanctimonious.

20:22

What kind of nickname is that? Well,

20:25

it kind of turns out that some of the dirt that

20:28

Trump has on DeSantis and

20:30

the way he acts in public, that

20:32

makes a little more sense.

20:34

What does that even mean?

20:36

Just some sex stuff, man. And

20:39

Ron presents himself as

20:42

standing by his wife and everything else.

20:44

And

20:44

the guy that is getting indicted

20:47

for sex stuff, has sex

20:50

stuff on another politician who

20:52

he is running against for president.

20:54

It's hilarious. Which, by the way, we had

20:56

a great theory yesterday. We were, we were hoping

20:59

Trump would get perp walked.

21:01

Oh, yeah. If he got perp walked at

21:03

that event, holy shit.

21:06

Would that have been awesome?

21:07

Well, l let's be clear,

21:09

there would've been violence

21:12

From the old people.

21:14

from the crowd. Yeah. Well, and there weren't,

21:17

there wasn't just old people there, there was,

21:18

notice, I don't know if you noticed this, there was

21:21

almost no Gen Xers at this

21:23

event. It was mostly,

21:26

I'd say boomers.

21:29

And then the second biggest group was millennials

21:31

and Gen Z and Jen

21:34

Alpha.

21:34

holy shit, there was no Gen

21:36

Xers. I felt like, you know, like

21:38

where did all my peeps go?

21:40

Right. But there were, I mean, I

21:43

was surrounded by a lot of people my

21:45

age.

21:45

Mm-hmm.

21:47

I mean, there,

21:48

what I was surprised by. Cuz it was a,

21:52

I just, I typically don't,

21:54

don't associate millennials with politics.

21:57

well there were, millennials

22:00

were probably the biggest segment there too.

22:03

I think, I think the boomers were the biggest thing, honestly.

22:06

I don't know. There were a lot of kids. And,

22:08

and when I say kids, I mean there were literally infants

22:10

and little

22:12

kids and teenagers and, and

22:14

there were, there was every race, color, creed

22:16

there too.

22:17

Yeah. There was a black dude with dreadlocks

22:20

and then orange jumpsuit. That

22:22

was pretty funny.

22:23

Yeah. And he kept yelling out. Joe

22:25

Biden said, I'm not black. If I don't want for

22:27

him, fuck him. Okay.

22:31

Yeah, no, there's, there's definitely all

22:33

kinds of folks there.

22:34

Oh, there, there's some crazy people. We got we got

22:36

a picture with the guy with the ultra mega

22:39

hat. That was

22:39

Mm-hmm.

22:41

Yeah. We, we gotta ask for our picture a

22:42

there, there's a lot of costumes.

22:45

There's a lot of a lot of people dressed up

22:47

for sure. And oh my God, the cars.

22:50

So by the time you and

22:52

I came back to my car, a lot of

22:54

the fun cars were gone. But where I parked,

22:56

which was in, I think the area, the

22:58

people I got there, like, way earlier

23:01

than me

23:01

I don't know how you got lucky

23:03

I

23:03

when I got there, cops were already

23:05

directing

23:06

you couldn't even park in the area.

23:07

away and had to hike you. You were

23:10

right up there.

23:11

Yeah. No. It was great. It was, I, I,

23:13

I got there, got a spot that was maybe,

23:16

I don't know, quarter mile or less,

23:20

and then walked right through the v i p line. So

23:22

it turned out really good. But

23:24

Yeah.

23:25

the, in the

23:26

I actually stand in line. You, you know,

23:28

just walk right in.

23:29

I just walked around them. Or, or like

23:31

yesterday. Well, I driving you back

23:34

to your car, like up cop car,

23:36

drive on the grass, drive around the cop car,

23:38

get back on the road. do

23:41

it again. Then finally get to an, oh, there's

23:43

a cop blocking the turn to

23:45

go to where your car is. So let's

23:47

pull up next to him. You open your window. And

23:49

as soon as I hear from you, oh, it's empty.

23:51

I'm like, all right. Right turn, yeah.

23:54

Go around the cop car to where they're blocking the,

23:56

the road. That's the way to do it.

23:57

Yep.

23:58

But yeah, it was a it was worth coming out.

24:00

It was a, a fun Saturday. Good to see you

24:02

in person, obviously. Interesting

24:04

to listen to the speech. And

24:07

just to see kind of, what,

24:11

what the actual event looks like versus

24:13

what you hear about these things in the news.

24:16

Yeah. And to be clear, this is my second Trump

24:19

rally. I went to one in Dallas

24:21

the last go round. And

24:23

the one in Dallas was at the American Airline

24:26

Center, which holds like 25,000

24:28

people. And literally

24:30

my parents were with me and we got cut off.

24:32

There were like two people in front of us when they said

24:34

no more. And so we had

24:37

to stand outside, which the,

24:39

anyone who knows the American Airline Center

24:41

in Dallas, there were jumbotrons on

24:43

all four sides of

24:45

the entrances. And they put the

24:48

speech on outside and

24:51

in our little area on one

24:54

fourth of the outside

24:56

of the American Airline Center, There

24:58

were easily 5,000

25:00

plus people who stayed

25:03

and watched the speech outside, including

25:05

us. That was a, a amazing,

25:07

I mean, it was an amazing event

25:10

in Dallas, four above and away.

25:12

What

25:12

And that was 2016.

25:14

No, this was 2019,

25:16

Okay.

25:17

leading up to 2020. Yeah,

25:19

yeah. He didn't, no, Trump didn't

25:22

exactly say that he won the last

25:24

election, even though a lot of people had signs to that

25:26

or t-shirts or cars.

25:29

But yeah, that's the lots of painted cars

25:31

with Trump stuff.

25:33

he

25:34

he kinda alluded to it though by

25:36

talking about, you know, things

25:39

that are indisputable. Like he got more

25:41

votes than any pre sitting

25:44

president in the history of the country. And he talked

25:46

about the he didn't call it voter tampering.

25:49

He called it election something.

25:53

rigging,

25:54

Rigging maybe. Yeah. But definitely

25:57

talked about how

25:59

talked about ballot harvesting

26:00

He said we have to do ballot harvesting.

26:02

Now, some states forbid it, and it's great,

26:05

and, but in the states that allow it,

26:07

we have to do it.

26:08

Well, what he said was, it's

26:11

wrong, it shouldn't happen. But

26:14

until we can get those states to change

26:16

those laws, we have to do it. And

26:19

which I think is absolutely the correct

26:21

tack to take because the

26:25

Democrats are certainly going to do it. And

26:28

you know, until you can get those laws changed

26:31

in some states like California and New York,

26:33

that's never going to happen. But until you can get

26:35

those laws changed, you have to follow through with it.

26:37

So here's my idea for

26:39

voting. So some people really like the

26:42

one day voting, and

26:44

I, I, in principle do, but I, I

26:46

also recognize that in high density

26:48

populated centers, it's really hard to do that

26:51

cuz even in a, you know,

26:53

a smaller city that I live in here in Austin,

26:56

like, last time I voted I had to stand

26:58

in,

26:59

not a small

27:00

well, small-ish, but I had

27:02

to stand in line for

27:04

over two hours to

27:06

vote,

27:08

who.

27:09

which is ridiculous cause most people

27:11

that were, you know, behind me

27:13

just left. They didn't bother voting. So

27:15

my concept is this, you

27:18

can vote anytime up to

27:20

a year before the election. The

27:24

only difference is if you vote on election

27:26

day, your votes are secret. If

27:28

you vote before election day, your votes are public.

27:31

So I disagree

27:34

you're basically publishing your vote, your

27:36

well. Okay, so you're going full

27:38

on? I was going halfway there. I'm still

27:41

letting people keep the secret ballot for

27:43

the actual election day

27:45

No. So here, here, here's how we can make

27:47

the non-sec ballot

27:49

work. It's pseudo anonymous,

27:52

meaning that you have a

27:54

number assigned to you, your voter registration

27:56

number, whatever it is,

27:58

social security number. Mm-hmm.

28:00

Okay. Whatever. Something most people

28:03

aren't going to know and be able to go, ah, that's

28:05

Ben Sterling, you know, or that's Gina

28:07

Tuev and

28:10

them. I don't have one.

28:11

I'm sorry okay.

28:13

G does not have a social security number.

28:16

Interesting.

28:16

Go ahead.

28:18

Yeah. You know, I really actually struggled

28:20

with getting my kids social

28:22

security numbers. Like it's something

28:24

that

28:24

kids didn't use sun. Need them. Back in my day,

28:27

kids didn't have social security numbers.

28:29

Yeah. It, it, it was definitely

28:31

something hard on me to do that,

28:33

but that's a different story for a different time. But

28:36

anyway,

28:36

the part where you tattoo it on the back of their heads.

28:39

yeah. Anyway taking the,

28:43

Whatever number and saying

28:46

Equality 1,

28:48

2 34 voted this

28:50

way so that you could go online and verify

28:53

your vote, and everyone

28:55

could see a record of how

28:58

each in every individual voted.

29:00

And, you know, if someone

29:03

voted a way

29:05

that they, you know, if the record it,

29:08

it would be a level of transparency

29:10

that we otherwise would not have.

29:11

Yeah. And I, I get the idea

29:13

of, of doing it secretly

29:16

is to prevent voter intimidation. Like

29:19

for example, you wanna avoid

29:21

having your company announce

29:24

that they're gonna be reviewing everyone's

29:26

votes. And everyone who didn't vote for the candidates

29:29

that the company wanted them to vote for can

29:31

pack up their shit and be done on Monday.

29:35

Yes.

29:37

And that is a problem. I suppose.

29:39

That could definitely happen. We'd have a lot of VO

29:41

woke companies out there that

29:44

would absolutely fire people if they

29:46

found out how they voted. But maybe the way

29:48

to deal with that is by allowing

29:50

lawsuits.

29:52

Well, so, and

29:54

forgive me, I've got little horse from yesterday.

29:58

You know, again, if you had something pseudo

30:00

anonymous where it's not easily

30:02

tied to the individual, and this is why I wouldn't use

30:04

the social

30:05

But, but companies have huge

30:07

resources that would not be of an issue for

30:09

companies to tie things. In

30:12

fact, fuck dude, Google would sell that.

30:15

okay? So not

30:18

necessarily, because again, you

30:20

could have a number that is purely independent

30:22

that you could even, it's

30:24

a reissue every year. Okay?

30:27

You're going to vote. Here's your number, here's

30:29

your receipt. And it's random.

30:31

You have to hold onto this physical

30:33

Be a hash code.

30:34

Sure. Whatever it, it

30:37

is not tied to your identity at all. But here's

30:39

your receipt. You can check online later

30:41

how you voted. No one's gonna be able to tie

30:44

that to you.

30:45

somebody will, but it's

30:47

worth it. My point is it would be worth it.

30:50

yeah. Okay. So you could even do sequential

30:53

numbering at each polling station. So polling

30:55

station X, Y, Z

30:57

in your local municipality here,

30:59

your voter number, blah. You

31:02

can check your vote online later

31:04

by going to da, da da da da. Here's

31:06

your receipt.

31:07

Yeah.

31:08

No personal information tied to you,

31:10

Well, even, let's start with the receipt. would

31:13

be great. If they give you a fucking receipt,

31:17

Yeah.

31:18

that would be something. Because

31:21

right now with

31:23

having anonymous votes

31:26

combined with unscrupulous people

31:29

effectively means you're

31:31

very, very likely to

31:34

have within all the votes, votes

31:36

that are not from actual voters.

31:40

Yeah.

31:42

And that's, that's a problem. There's

31:44

also, I think, a disconnect here between

31:48

the vote, what the federal

31:50

government historically has

31:52

referred to or seen as election,

31:56

and what some states have stretched the definition

31:58

to mean, which I think in Washington

32:01

state, you literally have 365

32:03

days to vote,

32:05

Well, and, and this people

32:07

will raise a constitutional question on

32:09

the the states having rights

32:12

to determine elections. And I think

32:14

the states largely do, and I think the

32:16

federal government should defer to the states

32:18

and to determine how they wanna run

32:21

their elections. That said, one

32:24

of the provisions in the Constitution that is

32:26

often overlooked is that

32:28

the federal government must ensure that

32:30

each state has a Republican form

32:33

of government.

32:36

right?

32:37

And without a secure vote,

32:39

how can you have.

32:40

Mm-hmm.

32:41

Which, by the way, voting was definitely something

32:43

on Trump's list to

32:45

by the end of his term, have all

32:48

elections be paper ballots. And

32:51

day of

32:52

yeah, that's a throwaway line. He

32:54

can't, he can't, has no power

32:56

to do that. So it's kind of a throwaway.

32:58

Again, I would refer you to the Republican

33:00

form of government.

33:02

No, it wouldn't happen.

33:03

DHS wants to centralize elections.

33:06

There's a big push to centralize

33:08

may want things, but the

33:10

lawsuits will come from states even

33:12

faster than they have for the

33:13

and I, and, and good.

33:16

But I, I do think if we have

33:18

an it, it could even be so much.

33:21

It, it could be, Hey, we're going to put a line item

33:23

in the budget to set up these new machines.

33:26

Instead of doing your digital voting machines,

33:29

do these Scantron machines or something like

33:31

that, which the Scantron machines

33:33

are to me the best way to freaking

33:36

go

33:36

No. The best way is what we talked about yesterday,

33:39

which is,

33:40

a blank sheet.

33:41

Well, yes. Short of that

33:43

Well tell people what that is.

33:45

so Gene's idea is you

33:47

have to type in the name of the candidate

33:49

for each position that you want to vote for. And if

33:51

you misspell it, fuck.

33:53

Yeah. Damn straight. This,

33:55

this whole idea of like, well, what if I make a

33:57

mistake? Well, I guess you didn't really wanna vote that

33:59

badly, did you? I

34:02

mean, what, how pathetically

34:04

ified are Americans that

34:07

you can't remember the name

34:09

of the person that you would like

34:11

to make huge changes

34:14

to the government in your.

34:18

I don't think anybody in Russia doesn't know

34:20

how to spell Putin

34:22

Okay.

34:23

It helps that he's been president for 20 years,

34:25

but still, know, it's

34:29

It is, it is ridiculous of

34:31

an excuse to say that. Well, we can't

34:34

do that. We can't

34:35

You know, it, it, it's interesting that you

34:37

take this tact when you would

34:40

obviously never get elected ever based

34:42

off of your last name, nor would

34:43

know. I have, I have no

34:45

would misspell my name all the time.

34:48

Yeah, yeah. But that's fine. But

34:50

then, you know, you would have,

34:51

you know, my podcast

34:53

and if you were a politician, there's nothing

34:55

to stop you from changing your name to Smith.

34:57

You know, go for something nice and easy. If

34:59

I, I thought once, when I was young, I

35:01

thought about changing my last name to make it a little

35:03

longer. As a kind of a response

35:06

to my mom made it shorter, so I

35:08

thought, well, I have to take the letters she threw

35:10

away and then utilize them

35:12

to

35:12

So, what was your original last name?

35:15

Well, mine, no, I haven't changed anything. Mine

35:17

last name is still enough, Toya. But she chopped

35:19

it up and just did Naft

35:23

Huh? Okay.

35:24

cuz she got tired of spelling

35:26

it for people. And

35:29

I was gonna do Nef, Tussen

35:32

Hmm.

35:33

just add an s e n in.

35:36

Well, already,

35:37

make it, you know, Norse,

35:42

yes.

35:43

but I was living in the land of permanent snow

35:45

back then.

35:46

Yeah. You were in an area

35:48

where a lot of Norseman

35:50

Mm-hmm. back in the day. Not

35:53

so much these days. Mostly Somalis and,

35:56

you know, that's who represents the state.

36:00

Yeah. So

36:02

dinner last night was interesting cuz we ate Pakistani

36:05

food.

36:05

Dinner was great, man. Holy

36:07

shit. I, I slept like a log.

36:09

Yeah. First time I've had beef tin dury

36:12

Yeah, exactly. And it was very

36:14

good. The chicken was even better though.

36:16

Yes. The, the chicken was the star of the

36:18

show, although what did we have as an appetizer?

36:20

Those beef things were good.

36:22

We had the a samosa with, yeah,

36:25

with b ground beef in them, which

36:27

again, you don't get an Indian restaurants

36:29

for obvious reasons.

36:31

Yeah.

36:31

Very good.

36:32

the menu.

36:33

Yeah, no pork. I, I really enjoyed the food.

36:35

I thought it was, if I lived in

36:37

Waco, I would likely eat there

36:40

a couple times a month minimum.

36:42

Yeah.

36:44

That was a good good random lucky pick

36:48

and crazy thing, I ran into a guy from

36:50

Austin in a restaurant,

36:52

Yeah. That was funny.

36:53

which I don't know what the odds of.

36:55

that guy.

36:56

He is another bald guy with a beard. So we all

36:58

kind of keep track of each other. Yeah.

37:01

So it was quite quite interesting to,

37:03

of run into somebody that, you know,

37:06

I, I typically would see here at

37:08

the Wizard Academy. Yes. Bald guys

37:10

with beards. We all meet up at the Wizard Academy

37:15

means nothing. Nothing at all. Nothing

37:17

to see here.

37:17

Uhhuh.

37:18

But he's actually the chancellor of the Wizard Academy.

37:20

So yeah, it was that was, that was an added extra

37:23

bonus. But the food was fantastic.

37:25

The, the only thing

37:28

I'd say is there were a couple of dishes that

37:30

were like, not salted at

37:32

all, but you know, that that could be a,

37:34

something that they got used to doing from people

37:37

asking 'em to, to not put any

37:39

salt in or just somebody

37:41

complaining about too much salt. And they're like, okay,

37:44

let people salt at the taste.

37:46

Yeah. So what else is going on?

37:48

Paris is burning.

37:52

Oh yeah, Perry, you wanna go to Paris or Mcbe? Okay.

37:54

Where, where do you wanna go?

37:55

I don't care. Yeah. Paris, I,

37:57

I posted a great video of

37:59

Parisian Bistro setting

38:01

up tables and having people sitting

38:04

there and eating and drinking as

38:06

literally Paris is burning in the background.

38:08

yep.

38:10

I mean, I'm really looking forward

38:12

to this revolution in, in France with the guild

38:15

teens coming out and everything.

38:16

dude, they, the, the, the French

38:19

are pissed.

38:20

That is literally their chant, you

38:22

know, if they're in, in French, obviously,

38:25

because they don't like other languages, is

38:27

they're, they're chanting that something,

38:29

something, something guilty. And

38:34

I mean, you, what would happen

38:36

to an American that started chanting something

38:38

about executing the president

38:40

of the country?

38:40

They would

38:41

fast would you be locked up?

38:43

at, at the very least. Well, and

38:45

you wouldn't be locked up cuz we do have the first Amendment,

38:47

but at the very least, the Secret Service

38:49

would definitely question you.

38:51

Yeah. You get a nice little visit and after

38:53

they shoot your dog you may stop saying whatever

38:55

you're saying.

38:57

Yes.

38:57

Cause that, that's like the one good reason

38:59

to not have pets is because pets will

39:02

always be executed. Whenever there's

39:04

a SWAT team coming to your house that's

39:06

standard operating procedure. You kill all the pets,

39:09

let people know you're serious. Well,

39:11

tell me I'm wrong.

39:12

Sadly, no.

39:13

Mm-hmm. so,

39:16

Which again, you know, I, here,

39:19

here's the thing. I

39:22

am not, and

39:25

I don't think you are either necessarily

39:27

anti-cop in any

39:29

way, shape, or form.

39:30

I'm totally handicap.

39:31

Well, no, no, no, no. We're anti bad

39:34

cop.

39:35

Oh yeah. You know, I'm not against good caps, it's

39:37

just, there's so few of them.

39:38

Exactly. That is the

39:40

and I'm actually pro secret service. I

39:43

told you that before. That's, that's a branch

39:45

of service of the US government that's impressed me

39:47

the most over the years.

39:48

Yeah. F b I was not

39:50

on anyone's fun list

39:52

No, definitely not.

39:53

and everyone was hypersensitive to the fact

39:55

that it was the 30th anniversary of Waco.

39:57

Which, you know, they should be.

40:00

It was by design, I think.

40:03

Yeah. Yeah.

40:05

And I don't think that spot for

40:08

Trump's first official

40:11

campaign stop was random. And

40:14

but the difference is of course, depending on which

40:16

media source you read, they either

40:19

talk about the anniversary of the

40:21

F B I agents getting killed, which

40:25

way too many of 'em put it into that light.

40:27

And then the, the good news sources

40:30

talk about the anniversary of the F

40:32

FBI massacre where they FBI massacre

40:34

at a bunch of children. So,

40:38

you know, not hard to see who's got a

40:40

slant in what direction there.

40:42

You know, Lon Hachi, the f b Sniper

40:45

that was involved with Ruby Ridge

40:47

was also involved in Waco.

40:49

Yeah, of course.

40:51

So, back to Paris Burning. Why I heard

40:53

the Parisians rioting gene.

40:55

Well the government is gonna

40:57

be, this is my understanding

40:59

could be wrong on this cuz I have not dug too deeply,

41:01

but my understanding is the government is essentially

41:03

saying, we're gonna raise the retirement

41:06

age because we have to pay for all these

41:08

migrants.

41:09

Yep. So essentially

41:13

the, the entire story,

41:15

and the reason why the Parisians are pissed isn't necessarily

41:18

my understanding is the raising of the retirement

41:20

age, but the underlying reason for it.

41:24

Well, I'm pretty sure they're not happy about the retirement

41:26

age being raise either. They have very

41:28

high taxes there.

41:29

yeah, yeah, but I mean, you're talking from

41:32

62 to 64 or something like that.

41:34

Yeah.

41:36

Not a huge difference. I mean, my God,

41:38

I I

41:38

it used, it used to be 60

41:40

Right, right. But the, the

41:43

entire idea that the Parisians

41:45

are in the French in general are

41:47

having to pay for all these migrants

41:50

and they are seeing austerity because

41:52

of it is the problem.

41:54

Yeah. And I don't understand how

41:57

this is at all a surprise to anybody

41:59

because when you start letting people

42:01

in that. Are

42:04

not coming into the

42:06

country as experts that

42:08

can generate revenue and you're just

42:11

letting people in because of your big

42:13

heart. You're shooting yourself

42:15

in the foot every time you do that.

42:16

Yeah. And, and if, if you

42:18

just Google French protests right now

42:20

and go to the image search, you see

42:23

just tons of fire

42:25

and, you know, police shooting,

42:28

tear gas, and I mean, thi

42:30

water cannons.

42:31

is a cross France getting

42:34

violent.

42:35

Yeah, it's,

42:39

it's interesting because you know, the French

42:41

are somewhat unique

42:43

in Europe because they're extremely

42:47

nationalistic. They're very istic,

42:49

if that's a word. I don't, I may have just

42:52

Well, I mean, so, so is

42:54

Germany though.

42:56

less so, I think, I think Germany's probably

42:58

as nationalistic as France, but

43:01

they're less istic.

43:02

You can't really do business in Germany

43:04

if you don't have German speakers

43:07

to do the business.

43:08

No, no. They're Germans are much more

43:10

likely to speak English than French people.

43:13

I'm not talking about their ability to speak French.

43:15

It's about whether or not they will actually hire

43:17

a company to do something without

43:20

a native German speaker. Impossible to fire

43:22

anyone in Germany. So

43:23

Well, that's very true. I know

43:25

that from personal experience. Yeah. If you let

43:27

somebody work for more than 364 days

43:30

in your company, in Germany, they're effectively

43:32

an employee until they choose to leave.

43:35

Yep.

43:36

until you have anything to do with it.

43:38

yeah. Anyway, so

43:41

yes, the French are also unique in their

43:43

demographics.

43:44

mm-hmm. in what way?

43:47

They exist. So the French are

43:49

probably the most demographically stable country

43:52

in Europe. They have still a

43:54

pyramidal structure for the demography

43:56

versus Germany is very much inverted

43:58

and everywhere else. Yeah, you

44:01

know, Lang like Germany

44:03

is, Germany is dying

44:05

right

44:05

Yeah. Oh yeah.

44:06

is de industrializing faster

44:08

than. Anyone ever thought

44:11

would be even possible.

44:13

Oh, I thought it was totally possible. I talked

44:15

about it.

44:16

well, I mean, we've talked about it, but dude,

44:19

B a s F Volkswagen,

44:21

Volkswagen, more Volkswagens

44:24

will be produced in America than

44:26

Mercedes are already produced in America.

44:28

Yeah.

44:29

Yeah.

44:30

It's, it it's

44:31

good for us. They're keeping us afloat.

44:34

Well, I, I mean, Germany is tr

44:37

so Germany's strategy right now appears

44:40

to be trying to mimic what Japan did

44:42

with the build where you sell,

44:44

model, and then ship the cash back.

44:47

Right. I don't think, I don't think they have time

44:49

enough to do it, and I don't think it's gonna work for

44:51

No. No. And I think that it's

44:55

a good idea in theory. I don't think

44:57

it's great in practice. And I, I think that

45:00

Japan was able to sell more cars,

45:02

but the reputation of Japanese

45:05

cars went down the toilet when they did that.

45:07

Yeah. Well, and you

45:09

And it used to be like an important, like when

45:11

I had a

45:13

a Subaru W X S d, I,

45:16

like, I was super happy that my car

45:18

was built in Japan and

45:20

not in the us. When I had a, a bmw

45:23

M two, same thing. I was

45:25

very happy that my car, unlike

45:27

a lot of other Beamers, was

45:30

actually shipped built in Germany and then shipped

45:32

over. There was a certain expectation

45:35

of higher quality for both Japan

45:37

and Germany that existed. And I think it

45:39

was a not just, you know, a

45:42

reputation based on good marketing.

45:44

I think it was a reputation based on actual

45:47

execution like car

45:49

manufacturing and other types of manufac.

45:52

In those two countries, both

45:54

very nationalistic, both part of

45:56

the axis in World War ii was of a higher

45:59

quality than products built in the us. And

46:01

I think it is in a lot of ways cultural, like

46:05

in the US we don't have the same

46:07

attitude towards shoddy

46:09

workmanship. It's not personally

46:12

offensive the way that it is in Germany

46:14

and Japan at least of yesterday year. Maybe

46:16

not as much these days.

46:18

I don't know. I think US products are pretty

46:20

damn

46:21

No, you're just, you're just saying

46:24

that cuz you're a patriot.

46:25

No, no, no, no. And I, I

46:27

very much mean that actually. Now US

46:30

Auto I, in the

46:32

seventies

46:32

grow up. Yeah, exactly. You didn't grow up with a

46:34

seventies Navys cars like I did

46:37

Seventies, eighties and nineties, US auto was

46:39

utter crap. You get into the two thousands

46:42

and to today. Mm. US

46:44

auto is just as good as anybody else.

46:46

Well, you asked me yesterday why I

46:48

drive my grand Cherokee.

46:51

And not only is

46:54

do I like Grand Cherokees in general,

46:56

but my particular model

46:58

year was exceptional because

47:01

I had a, what

47:04

ostensibly was a German

47:06

car that

47:08

was updated

47:11

by Italian engineer. To

47:14

be nicer.

47:16

possible combination ever.

47:18

the best possible combination ever

47:20

Italian engineers is anathema.

47:23

Dude.

47:23

No Italian designers, not engineers. Designers.

47:26

So, so what it is,

47:28

Woo. I don't know that I trust that one.

47:31

this car? Yeah. No, that's, I

47:33

could see that this car was based

47:36

on the Mercedes M series and

47:38

it, it still used a

47:41

lot of the m parts, but

47:44

the entire interior as well

47:46

as the refresh of the exterior

47:48

body was after Fiat

47:51

bottom from Mercedes. And

47:54

so they, it,

47:56

it's a nicer looking, much better

47:58

interior version of essentially

48:01

the mCLASS Mercedes. And

48:05

yeah, I thought it was like, this is a perfect combo.

48:07

This is, and,

48:09

and mine is a diesel, which I've, I

48:12

really liked diesel. I, although the prices are fucking

48:14

killing me these days, but I've

48:16

always loved dependability

48:18

and the durability of

48:20

diesel engines. Not to mention

48:22

the foot pounds of torque.

48:24

Yeah, depending on the engine you get.

48:26

Sure.

48:28

Well, not an American mile. Obviously American diesels

48:30

sucked. But German diesels

48:33

were

48:33

bullshit. The, the, the Chevy

48:35

Duramax and the Caterpillar engines

48:38

are fantastic.

48:40

The Caterpillar engines.

48:42

Yeah, yeah.

48:42

Who uses those?

48:43

Dodge are Ram

48:45

You mean the Cummins?

48:46

Cummins. There you go. Sorry.

48:49

Yeah. No, those, those do have a good reputation. But

48:51

I'm not talking about work trucks. I'm not talking about

48:53

like a three quarter ton,

48:55

Yeah.

48:55

but most American diesels

48:58

fantastic.

48:59

crappy. Yeah, they're, but you know, you know how much it cost,

49:01

right? It's a, it's an $18,000

49:04

option.

49:05

Yes,

49:06

I would totally get that if I was buying

49:08

a, a three quarter ton truck for sure.

49:10

But they don't offer that in half ton.

49:13

yes. Yeah, they do, they have halftime version.

49:16

Not, not the derm or

49:17

have a Silverado version.

49:18

no, that's, yes, you're right. They do have a derex.

49:21

No, I was thinking of the Cummings. The Cummins is not offered

49:23

in half ton.

49:24

Correct. Cummins is three quarter ton only,

49:27

which I'm not a Dodge fan. There are plenty of reasons

49:29

why I wouldn't buy a Ram,

49:31

but the engine is pretty

49:33

awesome. And you know, with the Duramax

49:35

though, you can also get the Allison transmission, so

49:40

Yeah. And those are good. But there, but

49:43

the, the Germans

49:46

probably more so than anybody else, have

49:48

stuck with the diesel

49:51

engine and, and

49:52

Yes. And lying on their emissions,

49:54

Well, they're stupid emissions reports.

49:57

Yeah, I saw no problem with that whatsoever.

49:59

It was one of the saddest days when I had to

50:01

take my, my grand Cherokee

50:03

in to get the the diesel retuned

50:07

because that stupid deal they made.

50:10

Oh, I would just wouldn't have done it.

50:12

Well, they, but they give you an extra a hundred

50:14

thousand miles of warranty And they wrote me a check for 2,500

50:17

bucks.

50:17

I don't know that I would've done

50:19

Eh, I, I, i took me a year. I

50:21

thought about it for a year, and finally I did it. But

50:24

because I mean, the money you're gonna save

50:26

in mileage.

50:28

yeah, so here's my

50:30

experience with it is after the

50:32

detuning that they did I

50:34

lost about two miles per gallon,

50:37

Yeah, that's significant.

50:38

they changed the torque curve. So

50:41

it it seemed to have more

50:44

low end oomph, but

50:47

gave worse mileage. And

50:49

the high end power seemed to be

50:51

about the same as it always was, but you generally

50:53

don't run the diesels at higher RPMs anyway.

50:56

So all said and done, it definitely

50:58

screwed with the mileage by about two miles. There's

51:00

no two ways about that. They did

51:02

release. I think maybe

51:05

three years ago, or maybe two years ago,

51:07

they released a new version

51:10

of the diesel engine that I have, which

51:13

brought the demo mileage back

51:15

to where it was and also added

51:17

like another 45 or 50 horsepower

51:19

and, or not horsepower foot toque to it. But

51:21

I'm, I mean, this engine will run for

51:24

at least a couple hundred thousand miles.

51:28

Well, I mean, even a gas engine should

51:30

get you a couple hundred thousand miles at this point.

51:33

I mean, like with no work.

51:35

Me too. I mean, my truck has right

51:37

at 200,000

51:38

rare. That's very rare. Dude. Most, most

51:40

gasoline engines are not gonna

51:42

run for 200,000 miles

51:43

my, my, my truck has 200,000

51:46

miles on it and 2013, huh?

51:50

still in good shape.

51:51

Yeah. Decent. You know, but I, Hey, I

51:53

like having a paid off vehicle. I car bills

51:55

and things like, you know, yes. I, I'm,

51:57

I'm not a showy person, so it works

51:59

Same here.

52:01

And you're, you've got a lot more showing you

52:03

than I do But

52:07

anyway the only, the only

52:10

issues I've had with my vehicle

52:12

I just had to have some transmission work done

52:14

because of a failing control lead

52:17

that, you know, wasn't super expensive,

52:19

but, you know, thousand dollars

52:22

ish that had it failed earlier

52:24

would've been covered in a recall,

52:27

but I had too many miles, so, damn

52:29

it. And then the other thing was

52:31

a had a coolant leak. And

52:34

this was the hardest freaking thing

52:36

to figure out. This coolant leak, it

52:38

was only leaking when the engine was

52:40

cold.

52:42

hmm.

52:43

There was a oing in

52:45

the the main coolant

52:48

line that came from the reservoir that

52:50

had compressed over time.

52:52

When it heated up, it expanded enough

52:54

to.

52:55

mm-hmm.

52:56

But when it got cold, it shrunk enough

52:58

that it leaked.

52:59

Hmm

53:00

Uh, the dealership wanted to replace

53:02

the entire hose assembly and everything else. It was

53:04

gonna be like 700 bucks. I went

53:06

to Napa and bought $5

53:09

worth of silicon grease and

53:11

I was gonna say that's, yeah,

53:12

and fixed it myself. Thank you. Yeah.

53:16

But the, those are the only two major problems I've

53:18

had with that vehicle. It, that, it,

53:21

my F-150 has been rock solid

53:23

for me. Really? Has,

53:25

And I, I, I think that's the one 50,

53:27

the F150 has probably been a, a,

53:30

a very good example of a good American vehicle.

53:33

which I grew up a Chevy guy, by the

53:35

way.

53:36

Yeah. Yeah, no,

53:38

I, I get that. But I

53:40

just really like the Italian styling

53:43

of the of the Jeep and the Dodge

53:45

Line. So if I was to get a truck, I

53:47

would definitely get the

53:49

uh, the Ram

53:52

Yeah. I, I guess, I mean, the, the

53:54

Rams are less expensive.

53:57

They ha they, they definitely have

53:59

Oh, not when you load it up,

54:00

options and things like that, but,

54:02

eh, no.

54:03

Yeah, I think, and the Fords have

54:06

a lot of those options. I just think they look

54:08

worse. I like the styling, so

54:10

it's not, it's not even so much

54:12

Ranch is pretty awesome.

54:14

Yeah, it is. But the Dodge

54:16

version of their top line truck, I think

54:18

just looks nicer. Like

54:20

for the year that I bought my

54:23

Grand Cherokee, the

54:25

it's not the Laramie, it's not the top line. Top

54:27

line is like, I can't remember what it is, but the,

54:29

it's, it's some kind of ranch. But there,

54:34

the interior on the

54:37

the ram truck for that year had

54:39

a two-one saddle

54:42

stitching. So

54:44

it was a light tan and

54:46

the dark tan, or

54:48

maybe a light brown, like, like a light brown

54:50

and a light tan. Done in a kind

54:52

of a cowboy boot style

54:55

where you have three or four stitches

54:58

of exactly the same shape right next

55:00

to each other. And then

55:02

the, all the, like, the pockets on the back

55:04

of the seats were done as saddlebags.

55:07

Uhhuh.

55:08

It just looked really cool. And

55:10

they, every year they, or I should say every

55:13

few years when they update the model, they change

55:15

the interior colors and styling a little bit. But

55:17

in general, I really like

55:19

that look, but I, like, I'm also

55:22

definitely still a fan of the the Range

55:24

Rovers as well.

55:26

Hmm. Okay.

55:27

styling,

55:28

Yeah. I mean, styling, sure, but

55:31

mm-hmm. Oh, it sucks. Yeah. Yeah, totally.

55:34

British manufacturing.

55:36

Yeah. Well, they haven't really been made

55:38

in Britain, I think, for a

55:39

Right. I I, it, it's a joke. It's a

55:41

joke. Like a Jaguar's Electrical,

55:44

Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

55:47

Anyway, all right, well, what

55:49

else is going on in the world?

55:51

So Timothy McVay, I don't think we

55:53

talked about

55:54

Yes. So interesting

55:56

tie-ins to Waco.

55:58

mm-hmm.

55:59

So I was, you, you gotta

56:01

remember I was a little kid when this happened,

56:04

so apparently Timothy

56:07

McVay there was some footage floating around

56:09

that I had never seen before today

56:12

of Timothy McVay selling bumper

56:15

stickers outside of Waco while it was

56:17

going on

56:18

When

56:20

during the Waco siege. Yes.

56:23

Okay. Interesting.

56:25

Yeah.

56:27

Hmm.

56:27

You posted an interesting video to,

56:29

Yeah, it's a little compilation.

56:31

yeah. Yeah.

56:33

So it, it was yeah,

56:36

no, it was a video that, that was

56:38

edited in a very creative

56:41

way, which I, you know, I mean, it's

56:43

all clips from different areas,

56:46

but it asks good questions. Like,

56:48

it, it presents the idea that you

56:51

know who McVeigh was. And

56:53

he was a special forces, I

56:55

think he was an Army ranger or something like that. And

56:58

then he, he

57:02

did the, the biggest explosion

57:04

of domestic terrorism, you

57:07

know, event that's ever happened at

57:09

the time. And

57:11

he did it with a guy who doesn't

57:14

exist in a truck that

57:17

he didn't rent. And he certainly didn't own.

57:19

There's no, yeah, there's nothing. And,

57:22

you know, using fertilizer you didn't buy

57:25

and, and like all these, all

57:27

these things that have been over

57:30

the years disproven. But of course the guy's

57:32

dead now cuz we executed him. or

57:34

maybe did we Because

57:37

there was no autopsy.

57:39

So let's, let's talk through

57:42

Oklahoma City in

57:44

general terms. So first

57:46

of all, this was supposed to be an attack on the

57:48

at t f in retribution for

57:50

Oh, that's right. And the ATF who the attack was against,

57:54

none of them were in the building at the time.

57:56

Correct. Including the daycare center and everything

57:58

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

57:59

Let's just think of this from a physics standpoint.

58:04

The way that building crumbled the idea

58:06

that an external explosion.

58:10

Yeah.

58:10

Caused that

58:13

It's a, it's literally impossible. It's, it's

58:15

literally impossible that because for

58:18

that building to have crumbled in that

58:20

way from an external explosion,

58:22

not only would the explosion have had to

58:24

have been much bigger and create a much bigger crater

58:26

than it did, but the building

58:29

would have had to have had bulkhead

58:31

inside to prevent

58:35

glass breaking and air escaping

58:38

because the, the initial shock

58:40

wave from the explosion would've

58:42

essentially turned that building into

58:45

a, a SIV or a cheese grater,

58:48

where the majority of the energy is dissipated

58:50

through the building and out

58:52

Oh, it would've blown out windows. It would've done

58:54

damage to the facade. It would've done lots

58:56

of

58:56

that we saw could have only

58:58

been achieved from explosions

59:01

inside the building. That's

59:03

the video you pointed out showed original

59:05

footage from the nineties where they were talking

59:07

about the second and third explosive

59:09

right? Yeah. Yeah.

59:12

And I remember those, like, that was, I was

59:14

certainly old enough to have watched that stuff

59:16

and it seemed very suspicious at the

59:19

time. It seemed like, cuz they were looking

59:21

for McVeigh for about three days before they

59:23

tracked him down. And

59:25

then they were looking for the number

59:27

two man. And then they never

59:29

tracked him down.

59:30

they did.

59:32

no, no, no. Not the guy that made the explosives,

59:34

but the, his code driver,

59:37

Oh yeah, yeah,

59:38

like, he just disappeared. Even

59:42

though there was, everyone

59:44

was saying it was two men. He just disappeared.

59:47

never to be found.

59:50

yeah.

59:50

So, you know, I mean there, there are

59:52

certainly successful criminals out there,

59:55

but there's so many things that didn't

59:57

add up with that situation. So

59:59

many things. And it kinda happened

1:00:02

on, you know, the tail end

1:00:04

of the government really dialing

1:00:07

it to 11 between Waco,

1:00:09

Ruby Ridge, and the Clinton

1:00:11

gun ban. The legislation that, that

1:00:13

ended up getting passed, there

1:00:15

was a very distinct fear

1:00:18

that Janet Reno would start rounding

1:00:20

people up in the hurry who were simply

1:00:23

calling out the Clinton death list, which

1:00:25

was about half as long at the time

1:00:27

Yes. The

1:00:28

as it is today. But

1:00:31

it was like, I,

1:00:34

I mean, I, I don't think that

1:00:36

it's any surprise that when, when

1:00:39

that event happened with McVey

1:00:41

for whatever, whoever blew

1:00:44

that building up, the only thing it did

1:00:46

is cause me to go out and buy more guns than ammo.

1:00:48

Well, and you know, you, so

1:00:51

there should have been, there

1:00:54

are four times in this

1:00:57

there are four times in my lifetime when I feel like

1:01:01

I am disappointed in my fellow citizens that

1:01:03

there wasn't a revolution. And

1:01:07

two of those we've talked about today, and

1:01:09

that's Ruby Ridge and Waco.

1:01:11

And then you have

1:01:13

the passage of Patriot

1:01:16

One, Patriot Two in the Military Commission's

1:01:18

Act in short order under Bush. And

1:01:20

then you have

1:01:21

Well, that wasn't gonna be a revolution because

1:01:23

it was all done,

1:01:25

have been

1:01:25

but it, it couldn't have been because it

1:01:28

was done under the guise

1:01:30

of we just got attacked and now we need.

1:01:33

You know, attack back,

1:01:35

well,

1:01:36

that is. People,

1:01:38

I'm just telling you, people's mindset,

1:01:40

Mm-hmm.

1:01:41

In 2001 was not anything

1:01:43

revolutionary. It was a unification

1:01:46

mindset. Like the goal

1:01:48

was achieved by blowing up World Trade

1:01:50

Center. They unified the country.

1:01:52

Yeah. So they unified the country

1:01:54

until they didn't. I I was a big

1:01:57

Oh, no, of course. The government wasn't

1:01:59

involved at first until the

1:02:01

NIST report came out. Like I, I kind of rebelled

1:02:03

against my parents on this one because they were

1:02:05

very much on the, it was an inside

1:02:07

saying the government was involved. The, as

1:02:09

we're watching it live, I'm like, this isn't, this

1:02:11

could not happen.

1:02:12

Right,

1:02:13

not what airplanes do to buildings.

1:02:15

This is see

1:02:17

right, right. So I, again,

1:02:19

I was a physics major at

1:02:21

a and m when the NIST report came

1:02:23

out, and I

1:02:25

read it because I'm, that's just

1:02:28

me. And I started reading through it

1:02:30

and I started seeing these obvious

1:02:32

just wait, jet

1:02:36

Field can't do that. That, that

1:02:38

makes no sense. What, I literally

1:02:40

took it to a, a two

1:02:43

prof. I took it to two professors. One

1:02:45

was a physics professor, one was an material

1:02:47

science engineer, pro engineering

1:02:50

professor, and I

1:02:52

just said, I, I, I ex, I

1:02:55

copied and pasted off my computer and only printed

1:02:57

out the portion I wanted them to see. So they couldn't

1:02:59

tell that it was the NIST report. And I said, does this make

1:03:01

any sense to you? Well, no,

1:03:03

there's this, this is obviously wrong. And

1:03:06

then I showed 'em what it was from. And they got

1:03:08

very quiet very quickly,

1:03:11

Yep. Just

1:03:13

like the moon landing,

1:03:16

man. I dunno about that.

1:03:19

especially the last one. Apollo

1:03:21

20,

1:03:22

Wh what, what, when was the last moon

1:03:24

landing gene?

1:03:25

Think 1977.

1:03:28

I think you're off by a little bit.

1:03:29

Hmm. I think he just may be unaware.

1:03:32

Oh, man. Anyway

1:03:35

yeah,

1:03:35

Did I mention that my, my favorite character

1:03:37

on YouTube is or the character that, that

1:03:40

show the conspiracy show. God damnit,

1:03:42

I, now I'm blanking out the name of it. I just saw it in

1:03:44

my hi in my mind's

1:03:46

eye and I'm blanking it out. Anyway, keep going.

1:03:48

I'll look it up and I'll tell you what it is, but it's

1:03:51

y'all. If you like conspiracies,

1:03:53

there's a great show on YouTube.

1:03:55

well, I, you need to send

1:03:57

me a link.

1:03:58

Oh. I sent you a link. I don't know if you watched it or

1:04:00

not.

1:04:01

Well try again. I'll, I'll add it to

1:04:03

the, the, the list. Let's see. There

1:04:06

were quite the host of characters

1:04:08

at the rally yesterday. Dan Patrick was

1:04:10

there Lieutenant Go governor there was

1:04:12

Mike Lindell, Marjorie Taylor Green,

1:04:15

Yeah. You, you were right next to Linde.

1:04:17

I saw that photo you took

1:04:18

Yeah. Yeah, I I, I almost got a picture

1:04:20

with him, but I didn't, so, oh, well

1:04:24

Hmm. Yeah.

1:04:26

didn't wanna step over too many grandmas

1:04:28

to try and do that. I, I wasn't,

1:04:30

I wasn't willing to go that fanboy

1:04:33

ish.

1:04:33

Uhhuh,

1:04:34

So it's interesting, we're I don't know what

1:04:36

the time is cuz we're recording on Zoom today

1:04:39

instead of Zencaster

1:04:40

Don't tell people that they're gonna hate us. The

1:04:42

time is 1 21.

1:04:44

okay, well guess

1:04:46

what? The

1:04:49

crackle and the audio's back.

1:04:51

Oh no, I'm not hearing it.

1:04:53

I know it's in my headphones. So

1:04:55

Yeah, so it's maybe it's a battery

1:04:58

related thing. Like when your batteries they are

1:05:00

battery, I assume, right?

1:05:01

and they're plugged in. They're operating

1:05:04

So the battery's not even getting drained. I

1:05:06

was gonna think maybe it's just a reduction

1:05:08

in, in your voltages or something.

1:05:10

No. And what fixed it last time was a

1:05:12

reboot of the MO too, so, I don't know.

1:05:14

Oof. Yeah. Well, you better hope

1:05:16

that Mo Tube doesn't need any

1:05:18

service, cuz I don't think they have parts.

1:05:21

Yeah.

1:05:23

They may not be able to fix it, even if you're willing

1:05:25

to pay for it.

1:05:27

Life.

1:05:27

I think we only have like another six

1:05:30

or seven months before their next product comes

1:05:32

out. Because

1:05:34

remember they, they said they, the

1:05:36

re well, they stopped making these like

1:05:38

a year ago. And

1:05:41

they're, they needed to retool

1:05:43

because the factory that manufactured them shut

1:05:45

Burnt down.

1:05:46

burned down, whatever. And so

1:05:48

they were going, they're, they're not gonna make any more

1:05:50

of this exact model, but they will make

1:05:52

a model that's comparable, that's

1:05:54

newer, but it was a 18

1:05:57

month what do you call it? 18 month rollup

1:06:00

Uhhuh.

1:06:01

products are available. So

1:06:04

it's, it's gonna, it's

1:06:06

gonna take a little while for them to get

1:06:09

to that point. And I think we're about

1:06:11

six months away now, I believe.

1:06:14

Yeah. I don't know what their new product's

1:06:16

gonna be, but I may be in the market for one

1:06:18

soon. So

1:06:19

yeah. No, I think we'll both be cuz it, it's, it's

1:06:21

essentially gonna be a more modern

1:06:24

replacement version of the boxes that we

1:06:26

have, which are great. I mean, this thing,

1:06:28

I've had it, I got it

1:06:30

right when I came out and then I

1:06:32

think Adam Perry got his

1:06:34

a month

1:06:35

an MK five he's got an MK five,

1:06:38

Who does?

1:06:39

Adam. He doesn't have the ultra light.

1:06:41

No, he does have the ultra light.

1:06:43

He, he has the ultra light MK

1:06:45

five, not the A V E B.

1:06:46

No, he does have the AV b

1:06:49

I talked to him about it. I,

1:06:51

he has a different box. Because

1:06:53

I sent him a Linux workaround for the AV

1:06:55

B and he does not have the A, B, B,

1:06:58

AV B right now.

1:06:59

Well, he had the AVB because he

1:07:01

literally bought it a month after

1:07:03

I showed it to him. Well, if he's

1:07:05

replaced it, then he bought the wrong one because

1:07:07

the mark five is a whole different

1:07:09

product for with less features, frankly,

1:07:12

it has better preempt. So the

1:07:14

mark, and this is why I would replace this one

1:07:16

when this version comes out, the v b updated

1:07:19

because the preempts that they put

1:07:21

into mark five and all their new rigs are

1:07:24

higher quality, less noise.

1:07:26

Yeah. The, and you know,

1:07:28

the AV B really the only

1:07:30

thing that it gets us, and

1:07:33

that quite frankly

1:07:35

I like about it is you can control

1:07:37

it over the network.

1:07:40

Yeah. Which is convenient, but not super

1:07:42

necessary. But the A V B,

1:07:45

unlike the Mark five, has a

1:07:47

patch that lets you separate

1:07:49

it into 24

1:07:51

unique channels in the Windows

1:07:54

interface.

1:07:55

Yeah.

1:07:55

So it's purely a Windows patch. I think you

1:07:57

could already do that by default on the Mac.

1:08:00

I believe I need to plug it into the Mac now that

1:08:02

I've, oh, that's another topic. I finally

1:08:04

set up my Mac Mini.

1:08:06

Okay.

1:08:07

So I've had a Mac Mini M

1:08:09

one version for a, probably

1:08:12

nine months to a year in

1:08:14

the box. Just kept

1:08:17

putting off when I set it up, so I finally set

1:08:19

it up, finally got around it.

1:08:22

What are you gonna use the Mac Mini for?

1:08:24

Probably mostly work stuff. I've always

1:08:26

had separate computers for work or home use.

1:08:29

And you know, I haven't really worked in a while,

1:08:31

so I really haven't needed a work computer.

1:08:35

And my old mini

1:08:37

still works. I just

1:08:39

plugged it in yesterday and updated it, but

1:08:42

I hadn't had it plugged in for about nine months

1:08:44

because right around that time I bought

1:08:46

the M one version, but

1:08:50

I never got around to taking it out of the box until

1:08:52

now. So now I'm back

1:08:54

to being a both

1:08:57

Mac and PC gay.

1:08:59

yeah. I just, I

1:09:00

I wonder if I could repurpose my old mini

1:09:03

as a Linux box.

1:09:06

yeah, you should be able to.

1:09:07

Well, the drivers are always questioned, right?

1:09:10

What's available for Apple

1:09:12

hardware drivers and Linux?

1:09:14

Well, I mean, if it's an Intel based,

1:09:17

I mean,

1:09:18

it's an I seven, that's the

1:09:20

thing. My old one.

1:09:21

has not really done their own hardware

1:09:24

for a while, and now they're coming back to it.

1:09:26

So, you know, back in the day Apple

1:09:28

was on Power pc, which was a

1:09:30

reasonable differentiator. Why you

1:09:32

would want that. Which the power PC

1:09:34

Architecture, man. I'm, I'm sad

1:09:37

that died.

1:09:38

Well, I couldn't keep up with Intel.

1:09:40

Not, not true. Not true at all.

1:09:42

It has fewer, no, it did. It had way fewer

1:09:44

flops, mega flops. It performance

1:09:46

is just not where Intel was.

1:09:49

again, not true. Back

1:09:51

in the day, one of the big differentiators

1:09:54

was a, you had you know,

1:09:56

you had, so Solaris would run

1:09:59

on Power pc. You had dual

1:10:01

processor architecture well before Intel

1:10:03

did.

1:10:04

I'm not talking about when I was introduced,

1:10:06

I'm talking about why Apple stopped using

1:10:09

it. Cuz I had one of those and

1:10:11

I had the first generation Intel and the first generation

1:10:13

Intel Mac ran

1:10:15

circles around the last generation,

1:10:18

power pc, Mac

1:10:20

fair enough. But I'm, I'm talking in

1:10:22

general,

1:10:23

in general. When it came out, it was

1:10:25

leaps and bounds ahead. It was, it was a native

1:10:27

32 bit platform. I'm

1:10:30

like, what everybody else was.

1:10:33

And I think you mean 64, but Yes.

1:10:35

Yeah, that's, I was trying to remember if it was 64

1:10:37

or 32, but point is, it

1:10:39

was definitely an advancement

1:10:42

over the Intel silicone

1:10:44

back in the day and advancement over

1:10:46

the Motorola 68,000

1:10:49

series.

1:10:49

Yeah, just the dual processor architecture

1:10:52

was very, very cool. They were

1:10:54

the first ones to do it on the power PC

1:10:56

side, so yeah.

1:10:58

Yeah, I mean, I've, I've

1:11:01

literally had every Mac model

1:11:04

not every variant of every model, cuz obviously

1:11:06

some models had multiple variants, but I've had every

1:11:08

Mac model since 1987.

1:11:13

Did you keep 'em, some of those might be worth some money,

1:11:15

I'm not a collector, so all that shit

1:11:18

gets sold as soon as I get something new.

1:11:20

huh?

1:11:22

but up

1:11:25

until the last well

1:11:27

the last max high-end machine I had was

1:11:29

a trashcan. So that, that was

1:11:31

I, I still have the invoice for it, $9,999,

1:11:37

the $10,000 Mac computer. That

1:11:43

two years later I

1:11:45

got, I built actually a PC

1:11:47

for about four grand that

1:11:50

ran two and a half times. Super

1:11:53

disappointed in that. And

1:11:55

so I never got the replacements

1:11:57

for the trash can. The new current generation,

1:12:00

high-end box for the Mac

1:12:01

Yeah, max have always been super expensive

1:12:03

for

1:12:04

got, like, for the new computer, the

1:12:06

you know, they never come with monitors. The monitors

1:12:08

like separately. It's, I think it's three grand,

1:12:10

but the stand for the monitor is

1:12:12

$700.

1:12:15

Yeah. I Why, why are you buying,

1:12:17

why, why are you throwing your money away,

1:12:19

Right? Well, no, I'm not, that's why I'm, that's

1:12:21

why I'm saying I'm not like, I

1:12:23

don't own that. That's ridiculous.

1:12:26

I've got multiple 4K 40

1:12:28

inch displays here. I've got one for the Mac, one

1:12:30

for the pc, and then I got another

1:12:32

one that's sitting here not plugged into anything.

1:12:36

And each of those screens was under

1:12:38

a thousand bucks. So for three

1:12:40

grand, which would've

1:12:41

if you're paying over $500

1:12:43

for a screen. My God.

1:12:45

Well, these are, you

1:12:47

know, I, like, I have, they're, they're running

1:12:49

4K at 144 Hertz

1:12:52

Yeah. I mean, there, there

1:12:54

are some budget, there

1:12:56

are some budget monitor makers out there that are doing

1:12:59

plenty Good work.

1:13:01

Yes. And, and you drive F-150.

1:13:03

There you go. Good

1:13:07

enough isn't always what you

1:13:09

want to buy. Sometimes you want to go beyond

1:13:11

good enough.

1:13:11

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, okay. There

1:13:14

are times to buy quality and there are times

1:13:16

to, you know, not,

1:13:18

for me, I like to buy quality and

1:13:21

for other people they can buy now.

1:13:23

yeah. So like the TV I have out outside

1:13:26

on, on my patio which is

1:13:28

for football and when

1:13:30

I'm cooking and, you know, occasional YouTube

1:13:32

stuff when I'm outside at night. But

1:13:34

I could buy a $2,000

1:13:37

outdoor tv,

1:13:39

Oh yeah. I've seen those.

1:13:40

Yeah. Or I can buy

1:13:42

a $300 TCL

1:13:44

or whatever.

1:13:45

I give a shit if it breaks.

1:13:47

Exactly.

1:13:48

I'm with you on that. I totally agree with that

1:13:50

policy. The thing is, if something's gonna

1:13:52

be in front of your eyes or underneath

1:13:54

your fingers for an extended period of time,

1:13:57

like, you know, thousands

1:13:59

and thousands of hours. That's

1:14:02

why I don't think you want us to ski.

1:14:04

Yeah. Gene, go outside.

1:14:07

I've been outside. I was outside yesterday.

1:14:10

My watch said, so,

1:14:12

Yes. And I saw the, the timeline

1:14:14

for the rest of the week, where you absolutely

1:14:16

had not been.

1:14:18

Uhhuh, Uhhuh Yes.

1:14:20

I, my watch calculates the sunlight

1:14:22

exposure. So it, it actually told

1:14:25

the rest of the week was zero

1:14:27

well, we don't want to go get cancer now, do

1:14:29

we?

1:14:31

You know what, if, if I get cancer

1:14:34

from the sun, that's the best way to get cancer

1:14:36

and probably the least likely way

1:14:38

for me to get cancer. But yes,

1:14:42

Well, I, I'm obviously

1:14:44

kidding cuz neither one of us is particularly light-skinned

1:14:48

I won't be after after this. Oh,

1:14:50

I'll have a farmer stand from hell.

1:14:54

what

1:14:54

the thing is I, I, I tan, I don't

1:14:56

usually burn, but I am burned.

1:14:58

Yeah.

1:14:59

way

1:15:00

it looked pretty, it looked pretty red yesterday.

1:15:02

Well, you weren't wearing a hat. See, at least I had my cowboy

1:15:04

hat on. You weren't wearing a hat at all, so,

1:15:06

Yeah, that was, that was a problem.

1:15:08

Yeah, and it's weird. My arms didn't

1:15:11

really burn at all. My legs didn't burn.

1:15:13

Just my face and my neck,

1:15:16

so yeah, that's, that's fun.

1:15:18

Yeah. That's, that sucks.

1:15:20

Well, and the way the stage

1:15:23

was set up yesterday

1:15:24

Oh,

1:15:24

had everybody looking at the

1:15:26

sun the entire time.

1:15:28

So yeah, the, the, the Trump

1:15:31

was facing east. Everyone

1:15:33

else was face, the majority of the crowd

1:15:35

was facing west into the setting

1:15:37

sun. And this was a day that

1:15:39

there was not a fucking cloud in

1:15:41

it was a pure blue sky.

1:15:43

I mean, it was a gorgeous day in so

1:15:45

many ways. It was great, but,

1:15:47

me also wonder why the hell Trump's plane was an

1:15:49

hour late.

1:15:50

well, they said crosswinds and

1:15:53

preventing him from a landing, there is only one

1:15:55

runway at that airport,

1:15:57

so it could have been, but

1:16:00

I, the, the breeze wasn't that bad,

1:16:02

I

1:16:03

Hey, I wonder if that airport could even handle

1:16:05

a 7 47,

1:16:06

No, no, no. New

1:16:07

so that, like his 7 57

1:16:10

was probably as

1:16:11

maxing out that runway. Yes. Yeah.

1:16:15

Yeah, I hadn't thought of that there. There's actually an advantage

1:16:17

to having a smaller plane.

1:16:19

Yes.

1:16:21

Hmm.

1:16:21

We, and you know, a again his

1:16:24

plane I really wonder what the in interior

1:16:26

configuration is like on that.

1:16:29

It's, it's probably about two thirds

1:16:31

of the plane is Trump's office and then the rest

1:16:33

of it is other people

1:16:36

Yeah. But I mean,

1:16:39

and a gold toilet

1:16:40

does he have a, does he have a

1:16:43

hanza style bedroom on there,

1:16:45

or what? You

1:16:46

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:16:47

which, if you haven't seen it, the new Hanza

1:16:50

first class International

1:16:51

Looks really good. Which is

1:16:54

interesting to see because Luft has

1:16:57

historically disappointed me.

1:16:59

well, I think there's a big difference between hanza long

1:17:02

haul and hanza

1:17:03

Clearly.

1:17:04

short haul. Yeah.

1:17:05

Well, and I was supposed to, I remember

1:17:08

I was supposed to fly on

1:17:10

Lutan private

1:17:11

Mm-hmm.

1:17:12

Had a flight to Europe on that, and

1:17:15

it got canceled at the last

1:17:17

minute, which pissed me out because Lutan

1:17:20

private is basically

1:17:23

a like an. A

1:17:25

three 40 with

1:17:28

no coach. The entire

1:17:30

plane is first class.

1:17:32

huh?

1:17:34

And you know, when

1:17:36

I booked that I was like, fuck yeah, this'll

1:17:38

be awesome. First time I get to experience a

1:17:40

a private flight. Private isn't

1:17:43

the generic word, private, it's literally their brand,

1:17:45

Lufthansa private.

1:17:46

right.

1:17:47

So the idea is that you're supposed to, since there

1:17:49

is no coach, there's much fewer

1:17:51

people. They still have the same amount of stewards

1:17:53

as aboard. Yes. I still call 'em

1:17:55

Even though half of 'em are gay and

1:17:58

the f the food's supposed to be better.

1:18:00

No, but yeah, we're not gonna

1:18:02

have that conversation. There's this misconception

1:18:04

that modern steward seems

1:18:07

to have, that their job is to provide

1:18:10

for safety and evacuation of a plane.

1:18:12

No, their job is to provide food and drink

1:18:16

and

1:18:17

hot while doing

1:18:17

there ought to be. No, boy, do

1:18:20

I remember the old PanAm says,

1:18:23

holy shit, those looked hot. They

1:18:26

couldn't be more than 110 pounds and

1:18:28

they couldn't be shorter than five foot seven.

1:18:32

That was a, that was a great days.

1:18:36

sorry. Tall anorexic chick. Got it.

1:18:38

I would call that a healthy chick.

1:18:41

Nah,

1:18:43

Definitely on the tallish side, but

1:18:45

that's cuz they have to be able to,

1:18:47

you know, reach into your, your

1:18:49

your bins up top with your luggage.

1:18:52

yeah. You know, like five, two, a hundred

1:18:54

and twenty pounds is a, you know, that's

1:18:57

a, that's a good one.

1:18:59

Well, a hundred. Okay. So we're going, I

1:19:01

see we're going into this topic. This

1:19:03

is a topic everyone always accuses me of.

1:19:06

You know, on every show that I do,

1:19:08

seems to be a show

1:19:10

that talks about this. I think

1:19:12

the, in

1:19:15

my experience anyway, the

1:19:17

healthiest weight for a woman is

1:19:19

about 110 pounds. About five foot

1:19:21

five.

1:19:23

Uhhuh.

1:19:24

Yeah. That's, that's like the most healthy

1:19:27

Most healthy in what way?

1:19:30

to look at and and other

1:19:32

things. Mm-hmm.

1:19:35

No, I,

1:19:36

Oh, speaking him. Five. Five. Yeah. Yeah.

1:19:38

Turns out Ben and I are the same height. Look

1:19:40

at that. He always talking about how

1:19:42

short I am, which is a

1:19:44

Bullshit. I am wearing,

1:19:46

wearing tennis shoes. I am three

1:19:49

inches taller than

1:19:50

Uhhuh, Uhhuh, in cowboy boots.

1:19:52

Maybe buddy just, just

1:19:54

walking next to him. I'm like, oh, wait a minute.

1:19:56

Our eyes are at the same height. What the hell? He

1:19:59

was like, oh no, I'm just I'm not wearing boots.

1:20:02

I'm like,

1:20:02

No. And I was not standing up straight

1:20:04

and I stood up straight and I'm clearly

1:20:06

much taller

1:20:07

Yeah. Yeah. You got on your tippy toes to

1:20:09

be taller. I saw that happening.

1:20:11

Uhhuh

1:20:13

So don't believe it. It's all bullshit. He's,

1:20:15

he's, maybe he's got an inch on me. That's

1:20:17

about it.

1:20:19

I'm five 10, dude. But

1:20:21

okay.

1:20:22

You might have been five 10 when you were 16

1:20:24

years old. You're probably about five seven right now.

1:20:27

you think that I'm shrunk in

1:20:29

my thirties? Okay.

1:20:32

Well, what do you, what do you do for work?

1:20:35

Oh, oh, what do you mean?

1:20:37

What do you do for work? Yes. Sit on

1:20:39

the desk, on the chair and Yeah. Bent over

1:20:41

a computer.

1:20:43

Yep.

1:20:43

Yeah. You've probably shrunk about three inches, I'd say.

1:20:46

Yeah.

1:20:47

Now me, I don't, I don't work, so therefore

1:20:49

I don't shrink.

1:20:51

Yep.

1:20:52

What else do we wanna talk about? So we talked about

1:20:54

the big topics, the, the Trump related

1:20:56

stuff. Talked about the Oklahoma

1:20:58

stuff. I

1:21:01

think there was one other thing. Oh, by the

1:21:03

way, I remember, or I looked up the name

1:21:05

of that conspiracy channel, which is awesome.

1:21:08

It is my all-time favorite channel now. And

1:21:10

they're growing like crazy. It's called the WI

1:21:12

Files. Their logo is a

1:21:16

WF question mark. And

1:21:20

each episode it's Either weekly

1:21:22

or biweekly. But each

1:21:24

episode takes a topic and

1:21:26

then in a very,

1:21:29

very well-written way,

1:21:33

kind of presents the,

1:21:35

the topic starting

1:21:37

with the full buy-in to the conspiracy

1:21:40

theories and

1:21:43

the at about the halfway marked

1:21:45

two-thirds mark of the episode, then

1:21:48

talking about why

1:21:50

some of these conspiracy theories are wrong

1:21:53

and then wrapping things up with, well,

1:21:56

but here's the stuff we really don't know. So

1:21:59

it's a, it's a really good format because

1:22:02

it, it's both enjoyable and

1:22:04

educational. And

1:22:06

it has a character on there called Heckle

1:22:08

fish which is awesome, which

1:22:10

is a, you know, a cgi, fish

1:22:12

and aquarium. But he is a talking fish

1:22:16

and heckle fish says

1:22:18

all the shit you're actually thinking.

1:22:21

So, you know,

1:22:24

ev every time there's, there's

1:22:26

ancient mysteries type videos,

1:22:29

heckle fish say, isn't that when the

1:22:31

younger driest happened? Every time

1:22:34

that you know, there's talk about

1:22:36

nine 11, the heckle fish will say

1:22:39

WTC seven. Every time talking

1:22:41

about politicians or rich people,

1:22:44

the heckle fish will say something about

1:22:46

lizards. You know,

1:22:49

it's, it's, it's great. You have to watch

1:22:51

it. See what I mean? But it's a very

1:22:54

weird, my TV decided to change settings

1:22:56

by itself in front of me. That's bizarre.

1:22:58

What's that?

1:22:59

My, the settings on my my computer

1:23:01

monitors started changing on their own.

1:23:03

That's interesting,

1:23:05

Mm, yeah, I, it started

1:23:08

about a few days ago. I'm trying to figure out why.

1:23:12

It may be that there's a remote control

1:23:14

somewhere that something is sitting on top of

1:23:17

huh?

1:23:18

and then pressing buttons. I, that,

1:23:21

that's a very likely possibility. Actually, I'll

1:23:25

have to, I'll have to take a look at that, see if

1:23:27

I can find the remote for it. Cuz once you set

1:23:29

up a, a monitor, you don't really need to fuck

1:23:31

with it, right? So all the remote

1:23:33

does is let you change settings that

1:23:35

you could be changing and paper, push a buttons on the monitor,

1:23:38

doing it from five feet away. Anyway,

1:23:41

so Heckle fish is awesome. Check out the

1:23:43

wifi files. They've got

1:23:45

episodes about pretty much everything.

1:23:47

I, I love their episode about the,

1:23:50

the emerald tablets of Atlantis. They

1:23:52

had one about Tesla's most destructive

1:23:55

weapon. And then one before that was Alien

1:23:57

attack or Project Bluebeam.

1:23:59

Which boy are we being set up for?

1:24:01

Project Bluebeam.

1:24:02

mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Apollo

1:24:05

20. The Secret mission to the Moon. They talk about

1:24:07

that. Totally, totally true. Not even

1:24:09

a conspiracy. The CIA knows about the

1:24:11

us about Apollo 20. Why would we have a

1:24:13

Secret Moon mission?

1:24:16

Well, I, I, I'm gonna steer you

1:24:18

right to that episode. I'm gonna promote them

1:24:20

then, cuz they, they, they do

1:24:22

such a great job.

1:24:25

Okay.

1:24:27

Ancient Egyptians in the Grand Canyon. This

1:24:29

one that you should totally see.

1:24:31

Yeah. And, and

1:24:34

I, I called, mm.

1:24:37

You watch it. I wanna see you call bullshit

1:24:39

after you watch it, dude, because

1:24:40

I, I've heard of

1:24:41

way too many,

1:24:43

and I call bullshit.

1:24:44

not a conspiracy theory. There's way

1:24:47

too many actual evidential

1:24:49

things that, there

1:24:52

are ancient redemption artifacts

1:24:56

and a whole cave system out

1:24:58

of the Grand Canyon

1:25:00

Yeah. Where is it?

1:25:01

rooms. It's in the

1:25:02

why don't we know exactly where it is?

1:25:04

show exactly where it is in that video.

1:25:06

It has totally been found, it

1:25:08

has been sealed off by the government with

1:25:11

concrete concrete blocked in seal. They're

1:25:15

literally trails and stuff

1:25:18

that have been blocked off

1:25:20

with warning signs on 'em. And

1:25:23

I mean, you watched that episode. It's, I'm telling

1:25:25

you,

1:25:25

all right, let, let's just take this for a second.

1:25:28

What would the motivation be to

1:25:31

conceal that knowledge? Why

1:25:33

tell me. What's the motivation for the government? Concealing

1:25:35

aliens

1:25:36

well, generally, their culpability in

1:25:38

the issues that they've created, but

1:25:40

w you know, ancient Egyptians

1:25:42

having been in North America, why

1:25:45

is that problematic information

1:25:47

that we don't want the public to know?

1:25:49

Why do you think they got there?

1:25:50

Probably by boat.

1:25:51

By aliens?

1:25:53

Okay.

1:25:54

Mm-hmm.

1:25:55

And the US government would want

1:25:57

the public to not know this.

1:25:59

because aliens,

1:26:01

Okay.

1:26:03

I'm just, I'm just telling you, it's, it's

1:26:05

a anything that can be traced back

1:26:08

to aliens, the US government has an

1:26:10

incentive not to discuss, not

1:26:12

to cover it up, to bury it, to

1:26:15

tell people that's just ridiculous. No

1:26:17

such thing as alien.

1:26:19

Well, I mean, do you, do you believe

1:26:21

in aliens, gene

1:26:23

Do I believe in aliens? No, that's,

1:26:25

you could ask me if I believe in God.

1:26:27

That's a belief thing. Aliens, you don't have to believe

1:26:30

in. They're actually provable

1:26:33

Uhhuh Now,

1:26:35

if you, if you say, you

1:26:38

You would, you would

1:26:38

do, does life exist outside

1:26:40

the earth? Sure. Are

1:26:43

provable that they've been here and so

1:26:45

on. Yeah, no.

1:26:48

Absolutely. Well, I mean, anybody that

1:26:50

believes in God, believes in aliens God

1:26:53

is an alien.

1:26:55

I, I would reframe that, but Sure.

1:26:58

Well, I mean, you can reframe it, but you're believing

1:27:01

in something that did not originate on

1:27:03

the earth, but yet somehow

1:27:05

affects the earth and

1:27:07

has had interactions with people of Earth.

1:27:10

Sounds like aliens to me.

1:27:13

Okay.

1:27:14

Just saying. Anyway, great

1:27:17

channel, awesome episodes. And

1:27:19

like I said, they do a good job of debunking

1:27:21

the stuff that's debunk, but

1:27:24

then leave you with the stuff

1:27:26

that isn't debunk

1:27:28

Okay.

1:27:29

the Secrets of the Great Pyramids.

1:27:32

They had another episode that was really good on the

1:27:34

the what do you call it? Oh, I'm blanking out again.

1:27:36

Goddammit.

1:27:37

Wow. I I'm gonna send you this

1:27:40

tweet

1:27:41

Yep. What'd you

1:27:42

because apparently this happened while we

1:27:44

were at the Trump rally yesterday.

1:27:45

Oh, really

1:27:46

Yeah. This is French.

1:27:51

And this this is something

1:27:53

you should throw a link in the show

1:27:55

notes to because there

1:27:57

are emergency response vehicles in this

1:28:00

video that are literally,

1:28:02

the protest is going on and

1:28:05

they're literally on fire. Shots

1:28:07

are fired. It's a

1:28:09

whole fricking thing, dude.

1:28:11

Interesting.

1:28:12

And this is not in Paris? This is in rural

1:28:14

France.

1:28:15

Oh really? Because all the only stuff

1:28:17

I've seen so

1:28:18

No, this is, this is not in Paris,

1:28:20

this is rural France. This is out in the countryside.

1:28:23

Shit going down.

1:28:26

Wow. Yeah. I think

1:28:29

you watch the video?

1:28:30

I'm watching right now

1:28:31

You should loop the audio in.

1:28:33

That I, I don't wanna fuck with it right

1:28:35

now cuz I'm, we're doing it in Zoom.

1:28:37

yeah. Anyway. Holy

1:28:40

Yeah. That's pretty

1:28:42

intense. French people are not happy right

1:28:44

now. Not happy campers.

1:28:46

Yeah. Think,

1:28:48

Mm-hmm.

1:28:48

yeah. Anyway, sorry. I just was that,

1:28:51

Yeah. You, you were bored on the podcast

1:28:54

while we're recording, looking at videos to

1:28:56

watch. Same time. I get it. I get it. All

1:28:59

right. All right. What else

1:29:01

did we, there was something else that we did not, oh

1:29:03

I'm just gonna mention that there were no protestors

1:29:06

at the pro, at the Trump event.

1:29:08

No, none.

1:29:09

People were asking like, no,

1:29:12

Yeah. And, and I mean, it's,

1:29:14

it's Waco. I mean it's the conservative

1:29:16

of the conservative. It's as deep rid of Texas

1:29:19

as it

1:29:20

I'm the 30th anniversary

1:29:22

Yes.

1:29:23

of Waco. So I

1:29:25

think if there were protestors there, they

1:29:28

may be too afraid to put on their black

1:29:30

clothes

1:29:31

they would certainly they would certainly

1:29:33

have an interesting time had they shown

1:29:35

up.

1:29:36

you know? And the only

1:29:38

other thing I think I would say is I think,

1:29:41

I don't think people were buying a whole

1:29:43

lot of product. I think a lot of people showed up with

1:29:45

their preexisting

1:29:48

pro-Trump products.

1:29:50

I saw a bunch of people spending a lot

1:29:52

of money yesterday.

1:29:53

really? Because I didn't.

1:29:55

Well, again, I was there for

1:29:57

Yeah, you were waiting before they got in there. That's

1:29:59

true. But, but look

1:30:02

at the inventory that they all had at the end of the

1:30:04

thing. When we walked around the the tables

1:30:08

that were selling crap,

1:30:09

Oh yeah. They, they certainly didn't like sell

1:30:11

out, but there were a ton of

1:30:12

out. They were, they went like,

1:30:15

they all went basically to two to one pricing

1:30:17

for hats and things.

1:30:18

Yeah. Which

1:30:21

is fine. I mean, they still probably made bank.

1:30:24

I'm sure I, I

1:30:26

didn't think that, it's a little weird that like

1:30:28

just anybody can print up Trump's stuff

1:30:31

Why?

1:30:33

I don't know, just like, can you just do that with

1:30:36

Coca-Cola or McDonald's? Can

1:30:38

you just print your own shit and sell it?

1:30:39

Well, no, but Trump is a public

1:30:42

figure, so, yeah. Now

1:30:44

that, that was an interesting thing is

1:30:46

one of the band items into the rally

1:30:49

was external campaign material.

1:30:51

Yes, I saw that.

1:30:52

If it was not Trump material, you could

1:30:54

not take it into the.

1:30:55

Right. Which makes sense

1:30:58

because they don't want to be associated. Cuz then

1:31:00

there'd be a whole lot of people with DeSantis

1:31:02

signs

1:31:03

Well, not necessarily uh, no,

1:31:05

not, not in that group. I'm sorry.

1:31:07

No,

1:31:08

Yeah. I don't know. I didn't feel

1:31:10

threatened at all being there.

1:31:12

why would you?

1:31:13

Well, I'm not a Trump voter

1:31:14

okay.

1:31:16

you know, so, That's

1:31:20

reasonably friendly, I guess.

1:31:23

Oh, I should probably also, and I think I've said

1:31:25

this theory before, but since we

1:31:27

still have a little time here, I might as well repeat

1:31:29

it. So my, to

1:31:32

clarify my stance on, on the

1:31:34

whole Trump thing I don't dislike Trump.

1:31:36

I, I like what Trump

1:31:39

has done of the few things he managed

1:31:41

to push through, and I certainly

1:31:43

like his rhetoric. My

1:31:46

problem is that I

1:31:48

don't think Trump ought to be running because

1:31:52

Trump mobilizes the

1:31:54

lefties. He mobilizes the voters

1:31:57

against him like nobody

1:31:59

else. Whether it's DeSantis or some

1:32:02

other Republican running the

1:32:04

number of people that could be mobilized

1:32:07

by the Democrats to go out, not

1:32:10

just vote, but to collect ballots,

1:32:13

to do harvesting, to do

1:32:15

the phone lines where everybody calls,

1:32:18

you know, people reminding him to go out and vote. All

1:32:21

of that would be way,

1:32:24

way, way more difficult if

1:32:26

it's somebody other than Trump running

1:32:28

unless they arrest Trump. Because if they arrest

1:32:30

Trump, then that's gonna

1:32:32

if they arrest.